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Drive Thru News #66 - Season 7 Kick Off! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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Well, hello.
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Hello.
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Spring is here.
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Spring has sprung.
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We have a new season Has Riz.
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I wonder where all the cars is.
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Is that's terrible.
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I feel like that's a greeting card.
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We need g team greeting cards now.
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Ah, we would be terrible at Hallmark.
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Like you get fired like the first day.
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Well, I mean, we're terrible at everything else.
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Why not just keep it going?
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That's true.
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So he, so Brad, how are, how are things going for you now in the
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new season since the jet started?
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Great.
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Things are amazing.
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I'm well prepared.
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I'm just, I'm ready to go.
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I actually watched some races.
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I'm eager to, to get started.
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I detect a hint of sarcasm there though.
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No.
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What are you talking about?
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Not at all.
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No.
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I am terrible at sarcasm.
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Let's hear from Kathleen Turner, Katie Curry.
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Wow, thank you.
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I know I'm several octaves lower than normal.
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I got that sultry sound.
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Sultry coming at you.
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When is the 900 number come out?
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This is like Delilah in the evenings.
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Delilah, oh my God.
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I think Tanya needs to just do the rest of the drive through, just like that.
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But you seem like you're a little down in the dumps.
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What's going on?
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You know, this is the dilemma of the car person.
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You know, you've got these really cool cars that you like
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to put money into and fix up.
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You know, you buy all these mods and stuff.
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But then your uncool car, your daily driver, it gets sad that
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it's not getting any attention.
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So it manufactures a reason for you to spend money on it.
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Oh, do tell.
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It's nothing crazy.
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I just need to do brakes and brakes and brakes, and brakes along the tundra.
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So new pads and rotors are en route to get something special.
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Cross drilled, ventilated.
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Slotted, anti glaze, super blacks, because it's Toyota Tundra, I obviously
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went with Ferrari, carbon ceramic.
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The entire brakes cost more than I paid for the truck, like five times over.
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No, I, last time I did this, which granted it was about 60,000 miles ago.
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50,000 miles ago, so they, they've lasted really, really long.
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Tire rack had a hawk, you know the LTS or whatever the, the,
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the truck kit is with Yeah.
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Cross drilled rotors and everything.
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So I just did the same kit again.
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Are you seeing the after effects of tariffs and other bureaucratic nonsense?
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I don't remember how much it cost last time, so maybe I just
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know how much it cost me now.
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And my wallet is almost $800 lighter.
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Oh, oh oh.
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But that's pads and rotors.
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All four corners.
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And you'll be able to do the work yourself.
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So you're gonna save some money.
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Theres yeah.
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Yeah.
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In my apartment parking lot.
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That's gonna be great.
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Or I'll save it 'cause I'll, the parts will be here.
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I'll do it that weekend that come up and it'll just be one of the things we do.
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And yet pumpkin spice gets pushed to the back yet again.
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You know, I gotta be able to stop though.
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It's kind of important.
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All it does is slow you down.
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I mean, it seems like a waste of time.
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All breaks.
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All they do is slow you down.
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Yeah.
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That's the olem right there.
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Remember?
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Yeah.
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What good or breaks, all they do is slow you down.
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Exactly.
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Well, you know what's not slowing down the news?
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The automotive industry, the auto sphere, it just keeps
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turning and churning and burning.
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We don't really have a formal showcase for our season kickoff, so why don't we
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dive right into your favorite segment, not Lost and found, Porsche News.
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Porsche News.
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Great.
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You're a PAR man at heart.
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You love those Porsches?
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I, I do, I do.
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I do.
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The hokey pokey with the boxer and the Cayman continue.
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So this social media post Porsche is secretly meeting to decide if the
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boxer and the Cayman EVs live or die.
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Ah, hype, click bait.
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Ah, flashy light, AI generated pictures, the whole nine yards.
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So this says the drive can exclusively report a meeting is currently underway.
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So which meeting is more important?
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The Federal Reserve's FOMC meeting about rate cuts or this meeting
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about the Porsche Boxter Cayman.
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This is more interesting than the treasury meeting by a mile.
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I could see that.
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Yes.
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I think this is all bs.
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There's an article that I found in doing some research 'cause I wanted
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to follow up on the social media post that had come out a bit ago.
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'cause this isn't new news that Porsche's been meeting about the
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fate of the boxer and the Cayman.
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Truth be told, the take can is being scrapped.
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They're kind of backpedaling on a lot of their EVs.
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The new Macon that was supposed to be ev, they said, Nope, we're
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gonna put a six cylinder back in it.
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We're just gonna sell it the way people want it.
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By the way, the new Macon, I thought looked like the ID four.
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It's pretty ugly.
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That is a novel concept, selling vehicles the way people actually want to buy them.
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I wish more car manufacturers would do that.
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You know, there's so many other options with your Porsche.
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Do you want it purple with yellow stitching or with white stitching?
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All this customization stuff, right?
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Maybe you could make it optional to say, I want the electric power plant,
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or I want the fossil fuel power plant.
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And that's something you choose.
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And the car's basically the same because at the end, does it really,
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does it really have to look different?
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It should perform the same.
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It should handle the same.
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They need to figure out a way to put the electrics in the
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place of where the gas motor is.
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Now granted, that's not always the easiest thing to do because of packaging,
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'cause of batteries, 'cause of this.
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'cause of that.
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I just go back to the original Tesla Roadster where they figured it out
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without modifying that El lease too much.
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But you know, we'll leave that where it is.
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Yeah.
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But I did find an article to sort of follow this up.
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I was like, what did Porsche decide about the fate of the Cayman and the boxer?
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And the only thing I came up with was an article from MotorTrend where a gentleman
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from Porsche of Australia said he drove.
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The electric boxer and that the electric boxer was not dead yet.
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So I'm sort of like, well, uh, okay, but there's no other indication.
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And even the MotorTrend articles like, well, if once we learn more, we will
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post more about this particular topic.
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But there's really no news.
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But it has been confirmed that the other Porsche models, because of their
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poor sales in China, VW suffering, Porsche's having money problems.
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So they're backpedaling on a lot of these EVs because they're
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trying to make take hands as an example that nobody wants to buy.
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It seems like people don't even go to Porsche dealerships
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to buy Porsches anymore.
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Oh, if you look at the article that I just put in the chat, I don't know
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if this is rich people things or it's P car adjacent, but somebody
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just bought a brand new Mustang GTD, which is a $300,000 car, which makes
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it qualify for rich people things.
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Why don't you just take a guess at where they had it delivered?
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Well, because we're talking about Porsche's.
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Did he have it delivered to a Volkswagen dealership?
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He had it delivered to a Porsche dealership so he could take delivery
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of his $300,000 Porsche Killer Mustang, right in front of Porsche.
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Why?
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Well, because nobody wants to buy a Porsche.
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It's just to show off.
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Hey, check out my Mustang.
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Yeah, it's just to show.
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Just because he could.
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That's weird.
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That's very weird.
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Well, so, so speaking of weird, Lamborghini is putting out yet another
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car without an R eight as a sibling to it.
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So Lambos continuing to do what Lambo does, but in the same breath,
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the CTO from Lambo is going to Audi.
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How does this work?
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Does this mean we're gonna get an R eight?
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Because if this guy's been behind Lambo, just pumping out more cars every
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couple of years, does that mean Audi?
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He's gonna have a supercar again, but he's just the CTO.
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He's not the COO or the chief engineer or anything like that.
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I don't know where I was going with that, but I, I feel like it, it's like the c
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No, it is like the CFO going somewhere, you know, the, the head bean counter.
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Well, aren't the bean counters the ones in charge of all the designs now anyway, for
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places like Chevy and you can clearly tell to me it's all that C level juju that,
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that voodoo, that I don't understand, like what those guys do other than get
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really big bonuses at the end of the year.
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They make a ton of money for themselves and their shareholders.
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That's what, that's what they do.
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If that's the case with the CTO coming over from Lambo, shouldn't
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he use a little leverage and say, Hey guys, work for us at Lambo.
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Maybe you should build a supercar again maybe.
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But did you also hear, and it's not in the notes here, but the
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Audi is discontinuing the A eight.
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That doesn't surprise me.
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It hasn't sold well in years.
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It hasn't looked good in years.
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No, it looks terrible.
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Oh yeah.
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It's like an old Mercedes almost.
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It's super blocky and just, ugh.
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Yeah.
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Super terrible.
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So yeah, if there's no R eight sibling and then they're getting rid of the
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A eight, what are, well, you know, they have to fund, as we've talked
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about multiple times, they have to fund that F1 team somehow, you know,
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that they're doing so well with, they're actually not doing too bad, but
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yeah, they have to fund that program.
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Well, there's a little wrinkle in that plan because first we had Dieselgate.
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Now we have Turbo Gate.
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Oh, turbo Gate.
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Oh man.
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Have you read about this?
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Uh, no.
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So there were problems with the two liter turbos already a while ago.
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Chain guide issues and other stuff that they had.
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I mean, this goes back to like the Mark five GTIs, like that far back
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where there were always sort of issues with the two liter turbo and you
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know, and much like the 180 T, they sort of figured them out over time.
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Recalls do this, do that.
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Well, unfortunately, with the newer motors, the EA 8, 8 8, I gotta say
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that right, they are being hit with a class action lawsuit over oil
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consumption because the motors are basically blowing up and they have
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defective piston rings and high oil consumption and they use this motor in
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everything in a point of clarification.
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Even though the motor did come in cars all the way back to 2008, the lawsuit
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specifies 2018 and newer, correct?
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Correct.
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There's a statute of limitation, so that gives them a little bit of relief.
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Yeah.
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But then you gotta go back and look at the production numbers
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of vehicles that use that motor.
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From 2018 forward, that's still an absolute ton of cars.
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So anything with a four cylinder from VAG has the same power plant in it,
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and this is their new diesel gate.
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This is gonna cost them billions with a B. Are they gonna buy back all these cars?
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Are people gonna do, is it gonna be like Dieselgate all over again
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where people like removed doors and windshields and basically, as long as
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the vehicle could still drive into the lot, they were able to trade it back in.
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I don't know that it's gonna get to that point, but what it does
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bring up is an interesting dilemma that they have on their hands.
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Do you go the Toyota route like they did with their twin turbo sixes and
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all that stuff where it's like, well, you're gonna have to wait in line to
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get your new motor and then we'll swap out the motor for the defective one.
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That kind of thing.
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But if they have to do that for all of these cars, going back to a certain
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point, they're not gonna be able to produce enough motors for one and
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for two it's gonna cost them a mint.
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Are you kidding?
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Of course, they're gonna be able to, to produce no motors.
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They didn't sell that many of this shit.
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But there's four cylinders in everything, right?
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It's in the VWs.
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There are, there are, you know, it's in all of 'em.
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The thing is, if you were to do a fix, it requires an engine rebuild.
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So now you gotta tear the whole thing down.
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So where is the point of no return?
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Where Audi and Volkswagen, and even if they used the four cylinders and
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the Porsches, which at one point I, they were rumored that they were
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gonna try to use the same two liter turbo for some project over there too.
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But let's just say the VAG family as a whole globally, don't forget, right?
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Because they're selling these motors in Brazil.
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They're selling 'em in Australia, they're selling 'em in Germany.
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They're sell 'em everywhere.
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Now granted, the class action lawsuit is in America, but that doesn't
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mean it won't be like Dieselgate, where it's more widespread.
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Again, where is the point of no return?
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Where do you cut your losses and say, yeah, we'll just buy back the car, or
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we'll give you a trade in value that's decent towards a new one, or you just
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don't, and people run 'em till they explode and they're worth nothing.
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So I wish them luck, but I think that's gonna cut into their
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financial plans for Formula One.
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That's all I'm gonna say.
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Yeah, that's okay.
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They won't be missed.
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No, that's Cadillac.
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Sorry.
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Well we'll get, we'll get to that.
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A recent social media post that I threw up on Discord from the Automatic,
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pretty much sums up everything I have to say about VW these days.
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And I thought it was spot on.
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The caption says VW claims drivers wanted, but stop making drivers cars.
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It's pretty disappointing.
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I think they have a lot of problems drivers wanted.
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They really do want drivers, but they're not making anything drivers want.
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That's the problem.
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I don't know what to say.
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I mean they're really expensive.
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And to option out A GTI at 50 or $60,000 to have it eat oil off
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the lot at zero miles is insanity.
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Yeah, it's ridiculous.
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I don't know who's in charge charge.
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And that was one thing you could count on in the old days, was that German build
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quality and that has just plummeted.
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It's just not there anymore.
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Yeah.
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And breaking news
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mentioned before about the new Macan, the new ID four will
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be rebadged as the Tiguan.
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Oh, I'm sorry Brad, did I put you to sleep?
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Oh, not you, Volkswagen did.
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Oh yeah.
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So boring.
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You know I am a huge Volkswagen fan as you know.
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I love Volkswagen cars.
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I recommend anything.
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Mark four and older
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and my friend just ball one and she, not a Volkswagen, she was looking for a new car.
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She needed to replace her, like 13-year-old Jeep.
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And I was like, oh, why not a Volkswagen?
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She said, Nope, nope, not gonna happen.
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She went to the dealership and what did she end up with?
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A Mazda CX 50.
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The new Volkswagen, the new driver's cars.
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A hundred percent.
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Yep.
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But I think that's an issue across all the German cars, Mercedes and BMW, you know,
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the, the brands we love to talk about.
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And Audi even too, like all their quality has been going down for years.
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Well, I'm glad you opened the door to talk about BMW and Mercedes.
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'cause I know we try to avoid it.
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We sometimes we just can't, Brad that we have news coming
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from Lower Saxony this month.
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I know we talked about this design and we were like, oh man,
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rendering, this is some AI nonsense.
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Well, guess what?
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It ain't AI rendering anymore.
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The new three series has been revealed.
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I'm sorry, I don't know what that is.
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I think it's a Geely.
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Brad is speechless.
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I don't know what that is.
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Uh, that's the new BMWI three.
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That is the three series.
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That's what they're gonna look like.
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But it So it's the three, it's the I three though.
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So does this replace the regular three series?
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I guess It does say, yeah.
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Uh, it says right there, right in front of me reading, you know, comprehension,
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everybody reviews all new three series.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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What, what it looks like a Corolla.
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It also kind of looks like a five series.
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It looks really big.
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Which the five series are super ugly too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To their credit, they got rid of the big carp grills.
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They were growing on me.
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I actually really like those on the M three.
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I saw an M three today on my way home, and I saw, I, I actually kinda like that.
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You think you couldn't make it uglier?
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And then they managed to figure out how, see this is the Subaru thing.
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I keep talking about it.
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Every time the new Subaru comes out, you're like, man, is it ugly?
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Ah, until the next one comes out.
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And then you look at the old one, you go, you know, it's not that bad.
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And you can do that with every Subaru, especially the Impreza that's come
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out since the 2.5 Rs body style, like the Colin McRay one from the
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nineties, which was actually a halfway decent looking little shit box.
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But after that, they just got with a bla eye and the Hawkeye and the
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this eye and the da, and then they just got uglier and uglier ugly,
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and BM BMW's doing the same thing.
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Same thing.
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And I read an article about this car and they, they were talking about how
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it's supposed to be like a really, it's really fast and it's gonna
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have a lot of power and everything.
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But it got me thinking, and I don't know if we'll answer this question
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now, but like what was the best decade for actual driver's cars?
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So this is something that John Summers and his co-host Mark Gammy debate quite a
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lot on the motoring historian these days.
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I was talking to John even this week and he was saying how he
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sort of settled in to how the cars from the eighties and nineties are
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probably what he calls peak car.
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Yeah, totally.
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Because you had the beginnings of a BS, but you didn't have all the nannies.
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And in some cases some cars were better off having a BS than without.
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But then they were still very analog.
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Suspensions were very simple.
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Designs were things that people liked and you could get in, flog the crap out of the
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cars and enjoy the experience of driving.
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But after a certain point, and I think that's the mid two thousands, like
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2005, six timeframe, they all, because those cars are sort of left over from
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the nineties, they were developed in the nineties and carried in.
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You know, we've had these discussions on the, what should I buy episodes.
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But after the mid two thousands, it all just starts to fall apart.
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It aligns exactly with the Bengal period at BMW.
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As soon as Chris Bengal stepped in as a designer, just to kind of highlight
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them at, because we're talking about them, that's when it all began
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to fall apart to stick with bmw.
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I mean, people would argue that like the E 46 series of the BMWs and
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even the E 39 were like the best.
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Most well-balanced fun cars.
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Yeah.
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Their slogan back then used to be the ultimate driving machine, and then
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it got me wondering like, what was the, I think also around that time
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there was a, that's when the, the really big horsepower wars started.
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Yeah.
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And I think that ruined cars now.
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It's it.
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Yeah.
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I, you can have a car with 7, 800, 900 horsepower or whatever off a deal or lot.
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Fantastic.
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That's amazing.
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What's it like to drive?
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What is it like to drive a Hellcat?
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Probably Bing sucks.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's probably a terrible car to drive.
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So like what were, what was the best generation or the best decade or time
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period for an actual driver's car?
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I, I, I'd like to hear actually if she's up for it, what Tanya
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thinks the best generation or time period of driver's cars.
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'cause she's got something.
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Very, very modern.
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And something in that time period we were just talking and then something in
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the eighties, she's kind of got Yeah.
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A, a plethora.
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When the question was first asked, what I thought of in my head as the
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answer was eighties and nineties.
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Mm-hmm.
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Which then you went on to say that John Summers said the same thing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, if you're discounting all the muscle cars and the malaise and
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all that stuff, you know, the people like, they were all terrible to drive.
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They were, they were not great.
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Yeah.
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I, I think you're right.
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Like the, the, the, the nineties and early two thousands was the best combination of
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safe, fun to drive, had enough power that you could, you know, get into a little
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bit of trouble, but not too much trouble.
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And they were still stylish.
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I think that's, that's the period.
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And they, they, and they looked good.
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Yeah.
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Now I will say to your point about the horsepower wars, I think that
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started with the C five Z oh six.
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When they came to the table and said 400, 400, everybody stood back and said,
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whoa, we're going 400 horsepower now.
20:37
Because if you look at the cars, up until that point, 247 horsepower was, you know,
20:42
the by turbo S four and the M three and even the Nissan GTR, they were all like
20:46
sub 300 horsepower because of insurance.
20:49
And, and in Japan they were all 2 76.
20:51
Yeah.
20:51
Right.
20:52
And then Porsche was like, oh three 30 in the nine 11 turbo and it was
20:57
like right around 300 horsepower.
20:59
And, you know, everybody was creeping around that number and
21:01
300 was like, whoa, that's a lot.
21:04
And then Corvette said.
21:05
Y'all 400.
21:07
And then from there it was like to the stratosphere.
21:09
Now we have 1100 horsepower gas motors and we got 1900 horsepower equivalent EVs.
21:15
But the driving capability of people does not match the
21:19
ability of the vehicles either.
21:20
Right, right.
21:21
And And that's the thing like the, you mentioned the Corvette, I mean, yeah, 400.
21:25
They were so proud of the 400.
21:27
They even stamped it right on the zero six badge Z six.
21:30
Yeah.
21:30
They did 400 horsepower.
21:31
But the flip side of that, with that particular car is not only
21:35
did they advertise 400, 400, they also advertised one G.
21:39
One G because it could pull a G and turn.
21:41
Yes.
21:41
A lot of the, most of the other cars that were started with the
21:44
horsepower war and definitely the cars.
21:45
Now they can't do that.
21:47
No.
21:47
And this generation of pony wars.
21:50
That's gone on is just absolutely insane.
21:52
The stuff that they're producing, and again, I'm not knocking people's
21:55
ability to drive, but you know, the standard driving test that you
21:59
get does not necessarily say, oh yeah, you're ready to go drive an
22:03
1100 horsepower demon tomorrow.
22:05
That's just, no, that's a whole different caliber of driving.
22:08
Even though you can roll up to your driver's test in one.
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Yeah, a thousand percent.
22:13
I'm sure it's been done, but you know, hey, whatever.
22:15
While you all were talking, was perusing a list of, ah, just outta curiosity.
22:20
Coolest and probably best nineties cars ever.
22:22
It's a very long list, and you read down the list and it's like.
22:26
The Acura legend, all of the different Audis.
22:29
The coop, the 100, the 200 wagon, the Z 3M coop, BMW was in that timeframe.
22:36
You had the Rado, you had whatever other golfs, you had the Miata coming out.
22:42
Obviously there was Borsch Viper.
22:45
You had the Viper.
22:46
You had the Viper, you had the Eagle Talon people.
22:48
The Eagle Talon was there.
22:50
You had, if you were into Vans, man, the Aerostar wagons, vans, the minivans.
22:55
You with all wheel drive and Emanuel.
22:57
Yeah, the F 40, yeah.
22:59
Yeah, the NSXs.
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Even Mercedes with the C-L-K-G-T-R was that time.
23:06
Yeah.
23:06
The The eight 50 BMW, the 300 ZX Twin Turbo.
23:11
If you're into American, you had the Firebird TransAm, you know the RX seven?
23:16
The Celica, yeah, the Skylines.
23:18
Yeah.
23:19
It goes on and on.
23:20
I mean, it goes on and on the launches.
23:22
If you're in Europe, the Delta was that time period.
23:26
My God.
23:27
Yes.
23:27
I mean, so many things out of this list, the SL Mercedes, the little two
23:32
door, there was a ton of good stuff back then and they were all unique
23:37
and different looking and they, they all had their own personalities.
23:41
Yeah, exactly.
23:42
You could tell them apart, that's a Toyota, that's an Audi, that's an Acura.
23:47
It wasn't like, I'm sorry, is that a BM BMW three series or
23:50
is that a Toyota crawler, right.
23:52
Yeah.
23:53
Or is that the new Civic And, and I think that's why John calls it peak
23:57
car, because we've crested the peak.
23:59
We are on the other side of that slope, and it's not
24:01
getting any better anytime soon.
24:03
You're, you're probably right.
24:05
Start teetering off.
24:07
After the mid two thousands because in the early two thousands you still
24:10
had like the A four was really nice.
24:13
You had the TT that was coming out right there at the cusp of the end of the
24:16
nineties into the TUR two thousands.
24:19
You had the resurgence of the Beatle take that for what you
24:21
will, depending on your fandom.
24:23
The peak of golf.
24:25
Yeah.
24:26
Was the mid, the early to mid two thousands, the Mark
24:29
IVs and even the Jettas.
24:31
Right.
24:32
And then slowly, I think after that time period, you couldn't play that
24:35
game anymore when you were a kid at night looking down the street or
24:39
riding in the car and going like, oh, those headlights, that's a whatever.
24:43
That's a whatever.
24:44
Now it's like, I don't know.
24:46
Is that a cop behind me?
24:48
Is that a Kia?
24:49
Is that Hyundai?
24:50
Is that an Altima coming to take me out?
24:52
I don't know.
24:53
Maybe it's a pickup truck.
24:55
It's a cyber truck.
24:56
Yeah.
24:57
And we'll get to another iconic car.
25:00
I don't wanna take the cat out of the bag for lost and found just yet,
25:03
but there's another one on this list that everybody forgets and it might
25:07
be the, the most iconic of iconic cars, but we'll, we'll get there.
25:10
So let's put a pin in that and get back on track and talk about BMW and Mercedes.
25:14
'cause I found this next thing really, really amusing.
25:18
I'm gonna just read the headline.
25:20
Court blocks attempt to force BMW and Mercedes to stop selling gas cars.
25:30
They block an attempt, so someone's trying to stop them from making
25:34
gasoline cars, but the courts said no.
25:37
No, yes.
25:39
Okay.
25:39
An environmental group sought in court to halt BMW and Mercedes
25:43
sales of new combustion engine vehicles by 2030, but to no avail.
25:47
That's the subtitle there.
25:49
You know who heads up the group?
25:51
Who's that?
25:51
Christian Horner
25:54
protesting the wrong thing.
25:58
That man is Unhirable.
25:59
No one will give him a job.
26:04
Oh Lord.
26:05
Yeah.
26:05
So there's that going on for BMW and Mercedes.
26:08
And Oh, by the way, Tanya, you talked about I, we got together
26:12
at the end of the season.
26:12
We're talking about things that were closing and things that were dying.
26:15
We missed one.
26:17
After 39 years in business, AC Schnitzer, the BMW tuner has closed its doors.
26:24
Oh, okay.
26:26
But the reason they're closing, I thought was really interesting.
26:30
Unlike everybody else, whatever excuses they use for going out of business,
26:34
AC Schnier came to the table and they legitimately said it was German
26:39
bureaucracy that forced them to close.
26:42
Because they're a tuner.
26:44
Every change they make to A BMW has to go through like regulatory
26:48
compliance and all this kind of stuff with their version of the DOT.
26:51
And they said it was taking upwards of nine months to get changes approved
26:57
for highway use on the BMWs that they were tuning and that they were
27:00
modifying that left buyers wanting to go spend their money elsewhere.
27:05
To which I thought probably Porsche.
27:11
So who's going to support?
27:12
Any warranty claims for ac schnitt or parts and products?
27:18
I think that's a five minute, five mile warranty from the word go.
27:21
I think as soon as you sign that pad and tandem your credit card,
27:25
it's, it, it's over because they, they, they all have stamped on 'em.
27:28
Race use only not to be used on public rec.
27:31
Yeah.
27:32
Not approved by German DOT.
27:34
Yes.
27:35
Some those cars will find their way out to bring a trailer just like everything else.
27:39
Alright, so let's get, let's get out of this BMW Mercedes.
27:42
Thank god funk and let's talk about Japanese stuff in Asian domestic news.
27:48
This is exciting stuff here After 20 years.
27:51
Toyota has unveiled the new Celica and you know where they did it on
27:56
the world rally championship stage?
27:59
Yeah.
28:00
The celicas coming back.
28:02
So that means if Gazoo has their way, we're gonna see we proper Celica.
28:08
Supra.
28:09
Not that BMW thing they gave us.
28:13
Oh.
28:13
Nobody's gonna have their way.
28:14
They put the bean counter in charge.
28:16
Uh, why you got a rain on my parade?
28:19
Reality because we really think the MR two that they said is
28:22
gonna come, is gonna come out.
28:24
I remain hopeful and steadfast the Gazoo will continue to produce cool stuff.
28:30
Notice I didn't say Toyota Gazoo will continue to produce.
28:34
So this like, is this gonna be like Scion?
28:35
Yeah.
28:36
Yes, exactly.
28:37
It'll be like Scion.
28:38
It looks cool though.
28:40
It's big for a two-door coupe, let's call it that.
28:44
It's big now, granted, it has the big rally flares, just like
28:47
the Yaris and all the other rally Toyotas have, and it's all jacked up.
28:51
So it's hard to tell what it would look like as a streetcar, but this is exciting.
28:55
The Celica could be coming back, mine's gonna drive it.
29:11
And it also sort of boggled my mind that it's been 20 years since
29:15
Celica went out of production.
29:17
That's a long time.
29:19
The last sica was sort of crap, wasn't it?
29:21
I mean, no offense Ron Sheri if you're listening, but it was sort of crap.
29:25
That's funny that you think you would be listening.
29:32
Thank you for your continued Patreon support.
29:34
Yes.
29:35
I don't know.
29:35
I think that's exciting.
29:37
Selica.
29:37
It's coming back.
29:39
Alright, so you remember before we were talking about BMW and how there's
29:42
the Subaru effect, I like to call it.
29:44
This next one is case in point of what I'm talking about.
29:49
Please take a look at the 2026 Subaru Trail Seeker Subaru can.
29:56
The what?
29:57
The trail seeker.
29:58
What the, it seeks trails.
30:02
I don't understand what this, is this like a wagon?
30:06
Is it a van?
30:07
It's owners are blonde.
30:09
Well, it's like a really smooshed van.
30:11
It has like lines of a van.
30:13
It looks like a 94 A two.
30:16
What?
30:17
They all have that same rear light.
30:19
Now, did you notice that with the long light bar, just like
30:21
the Porsches and the Audis have, why is that a design thing now?
30:25
Because they all copied.
30:27
Why is the fog light integrated into the plastic co cladded fenders?
30:32
That reminds me of the, what was that Jeep that had the three headlights?
30:36
Oh, that was the Cherokee like 10, 15 years ago, right?
30:40
Yeah.
30:40
Got it.
30:41
How much plastic did they put on this?
30:42
This is terrible.
30:44
And the windows are tiny and the doors are huge.
30:46
It's all wrong.
30:48
Was this designed by chat, GPT?
30:50
I mean, it has the lines of a minivan, but it's too short.
30:53
So then it's like, well wagon, but then it's not, I bet if you
30:58
saw this in person, it's massive.
31:00
Probably this is the trickery of these things.
31:03
They never put an object next to the car.
31:07
So you can gauge how big it is, right?
31:09
Because if you put a six foot male next to this, you kind of go, oh shit,
31:14
it's as tall as he is, it's six feet.
31:15
That's huge.
31:17
So you got a perspective.
31:18
It's like stand, you know, person standing next to a redwood tree.
31:21
But this, this thing is, I don't know, this is what people want.
31:25
No, I think might be the size of a Tahoe.
31:27
It's noise.
31:28
In real life, I could care less about the cubic foot of storage that it has.
31:34
It has towing capacity.
31:35
Apparently it'll do zero to 60 in 4.3 seconds because it's electric.
31:40
I'm like, it's still ugly.
31:42
It is.
31:44
Cloth is the new thing, right?
31:46
There's no more leather or vinyl in cars.
31:49
It's all this cloth, like it looks like a dentist's office.
31:52
No, that's a very Subaru thing and I don't know why.
31:56
Looks terrible.
31:57
It's part of that rugged appeal.
31:59
Apparently leather's not rugged, but cloth is until, because that way when
32:04
you're dirty from your hiking adventures and you get in, then you can get the seat
32:08
dirty and then not be able to clean it.
32:10
And it just adds to the ambiance of outdoor trail seeking.
32:15
What is that television?
32:16
In the middle of the dashboard.
32:17
It's that 17 inches.
32:18
It's huge.
32:19
God.
32:21
Nothing about that says awesome.
32:24
And you know what?
32:24
The driver's era of cars didn't have computer screens in them.
32:29
They barely had cassette decks.
32:30
They barely had CD players.
32:32
They had cassette decks
32:35
continuing with Asian domestic news.
32:37
Guess what, Tanya?
32:38
The rumor mill is humming.
32:40
Hyundai is expected to make 21 examples of the vision N 74 concept at the
32:49
low, low price of $350,000 a piece.
32:53
You gonna get one?
32:54
I don't know.
32:54
I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere, but except social
32:57
media, that's the only place.
32:59
It's where the best news comes from.
33:01
I think it's BS because I don't, I don't think they're gonna make it.
33:03
It's hydrogen powered for one.
33:05
Then what are people gonna do with it?
33:07
Use it as a model car.
33:08
I mean, unless they're making it back to the future reboot movie.
33:11
That would make sense.
33:12
You're selling it for three 50,000.
33:14
You're only selling it to rich people who aren't gonna drive it.
33:16
So it doesn't matter if they can get hydrogen or not.
33:18
So it'll have like 12 original miles.
33:20
But on the same token, not necessarily Asian news, but the French connection.
33:34
Alpine, yes.
33:35
Alpine.
33:36
The same.
33:36
Alpine is in Formula One is reportedly going through US.
33:40
Crash certification for the one 10.
33:44
That is true.
33:45
That is exciting.
33:47
The Cayman killer could be coming to the us.
33:52
Well, Porsche is the Cayman killer.
33:53
Oh,
33:56
oh, REM shot.
34:00
Now granted it's gonna cost a quadrillion dollars.
34:03
I mean, I've seen these in person, especially I've seen
34:05
the A one 10 R old team.
34:08
They call it, which is like the GT three version or whatever fan freaking tastic.
34:13
I would love to have one of these.
34:14
They are amazing.
34:16
Oh, and, and I never would I have ever thought that Alpine would
34:19
be like, oh yeah, we're gonna bring cars to the United States.
34:22
There's still a possibility that they're not going to, but the fact
34:24
that they're going to crash testing means they might be making a push.
34:28
Because unlike Audi, who's in denial, Alpine needs to sell cars
34:33
to fund their Formula One program.
34:36
They're probably a good idea to expand their market a
34:39
little bit, don't you think?
34:41
I dunno.
34:42
I'm excited.
34:42
I think those cars are awesome.
34:44
The downside, much like the alpha male four C because of its mono co and all
34:49
that other stuff that they did will never come with a manual transmission.
34:53
But with a car like that, do you really want it?
34:56
Do you really care?
34:58
Left foot break in and some paddle shifters.
35:00
Let's go.
35:01
Let's go.
35:01
This is a weapon.
35:03
This is a proper sports car.
35:05
Let's go.
35:06
Tanya, as we close out this segment, this thing says commercial.
35:09
Since last time we were doing Super Bowl commercials, Uhhuh.
35:13
So I've dug back into the historical archives.
35:17
Oh boy.
35:17
Find some old car commercials.
35:19
And this one featuring celebrity Eddie Murphy.
35:22
And look at that.
35:23
The Toyota Celica.
35:25
How on point.
35:28
Bringing it full circle.
35:29
Did you look at this Sica commercial with Eddie Murphy?
35:32
I have not.
35:33
Let's see.
35:34
Alright.
35:34
How bad is this one?
35:35
It's only 30 seconds.
35:36
How good could it be?
35:37
There's like a series of them, but yes, Sean, talking of town in New
35:41
York, it's almost popular as I am.
35:43
I look at the glamorous style, glamorous styling.
35:49
Take out the dual MO four wheel steering.
35:51
Giving it a little rub down.
35:53
What is he doing to the car?
35:56
So weird.
35:58
Was he like fondling it?
35:59
What was that?
36:00
Watch it.
36:01
That was almost Burgess Meredith level.
36:04
Weird.
36:06
Ah, so weird.
36:09
Tanya, where do you find this stuff from?
36:11
The depths of YouTube.
36:13
It's a place I don't like to go very often.
36:15
Switching gears to lost and found your favorite section of the drive through and
36:19
keeping with what we were just talking about or what Tanya was just talking
36:22
about before headline reads, 70% of Americans say new cars are unaffordable.
36:29
This is Jalopnik reporting top shelf news here, as is everything.
36:35
Yes, everything's gone up in price.
36:37
But you know what's really interesting about this?
36:39
Because they say that, and Tanya, you and I know because we've been doing some
36:43
of our own independent research on new cars as of late, there is suddenly a glu.
36:49
Cars starting at $25,000.
36:53
That very quickly ramp up into the $40,000 sweet spot, which we talked about.
36:58
Remember we did that whole episode on the, what can you buy for less
37:00
than 50 grand in millennial gray?
37:03
But there is a glut of cars in that space between 25 and 40,000.
37:08
And they're not all terrible.
37:09
They're not all great, but they're not all terrible either.
37:12
I find this an interesting juxtaposition between what they're saying.
37:15
74% of Americans say new cars aren't affordable.
37:19
Is that because we're all bougie and we don't wanna drive the cars that exist
37:23
in the 25 to $40,000 range now because they're considered too cheap and we all
37:27
have to have some nice status symbol.
37:28
Tesla set the bar.
37:30
We all need to be driving whatever it is, 60,000 is the new 30,000.
37:35
Because if that's the case, maybe we need to kind of look at things in a different
37:39
lens, in a different light, because I think we're overlooking some really good
37:44
cars that are actually quite affordable.
37:48
Well, if you read further down into the article, they actually
37:51
solved the problem for us.
37:53
Oh, did they?
37:54
Yeah.
37:54
So they say that the real problem is that companies just don't
37:57
pay their employees enough.
37:59
It's okay that the car prices are so high, it's just people
38:02
just need to make more money.
38:03
What's that got to do with the price of T and yeah, it is just a
38:07
way to make a political statement.
38:09
Oh, well that's wah w If a majority of Americans only make, let's make up
38:17
numbers, $70,000 a year and they have to go buy a car that costs $50,000.
38:23
Yeah.
38:23
How do they afford it?
38:25
Yeah, but the new Sentra is like less than $30,000.
38:28
So why wouldn't you go buy that to that point?
38:31
You can still get something that's $20,000 or around, there
38:37
is just going to be a toaster.
38:40
You also don't have to buy a new, and that's just it.
38:43
I mean, there are cars sitting on CarMax lots.
38:46
That are reasonably price as well.
38:49
And their stuff is generally pretty good quality because they're very selective
38:53
on what they sell and what they get rid of and all that kind of stuff.
38:56
Why not buy a car that's a couple years old that's already been broken
38:59
in, that might have been already through all the warranty stuff and
39:01
all the recalls and all the nonsense.
39:03
Find yourself a car with 10,000 miles on it or less, call it a day.
39:08
I don't know, because people can't do anything anymore.
39:11
Like, I mean, because you think you're gonna do more with a brand new car.
39:15
No, I mean, like if you go back in time, cars were simpler.
39:19
Yeah.
39:20
But people still didn't, like you could buy a used car and if you
39:23
could probably do your, you know, some of your own maintenance.
39:27
But nowadays people don't have an interest.
39:30
Well, and they've made the cars impossible to work on without, even
39:34
if you had an interest, you'd need a PhD to, uh, unlock the brake caliber.
39:38
Yeah.
39:39
There's that.
39:39
Yeah.
39:40
And stuff like that.
39:40
I mean, I don't know because.
39:42
Yes, there's inflation.
39:43
The price of everything is high.
39:46
Salaries haven't necessarily kept up.
39:49
One could argue, but you could make that argument probably 20 years ago too.
39:54
That is very true.
39:55
That is very true.
39:56
I mean, if you compare a car with fuel injection to something with
39:58
the carburetor that was space, age technology, fuel injection.
40:02
Why?
40:02
Why I can't put a screwdriver in there and change my settings and
40:06
make it run rich or make it run lean, like, no, you couldn't do that.
40:09
It was computer controlled.
40:10
Right?
40:10
That was the future.
40:11
It's been an evolution for sure, but I think at the end of the day, if you're
40:15
shopping for a car right now, I wouldn't discount a car Max or a used car that
40:20
was from a reputable source, because if you think about it, despite the fact
40:24
you're gonna get a three year, 36,000 mile warranty, that seems to be the
40:28
going rate for any new car these days, which is not a lot because the way
40:32
people are driving still, you're gonna blow through 36,000 miles in no time.
40:36
Let's be fair.
40:37
If you had a reputable shop to work on your car, their hourly rate is still
40:42
lower than that of the dealership.
40:44
Once you're out of warranty, taking your car to the dealer is insane.
40:48
You go to the Honda dealer, it's $150 an hour, at least
40:51
you know your local mechanic.
40:53
Okay.
40:53
Maybe it's a hundred.
40:55
So you're saving even there if you've gotta, you know, do any maintenance on
40:59
the car and you can't do it yourself.
41:00
So there's something to be said about still buying a used car, but I, I don't
41:04
think you buy the one with 285,000 miles, you buy the one with 28,000 miles.
41:10
I mean, this goes into something we've talked about numerous
41:13
times on the drive-thru.
41:14
Don't buy a car if you don't have to.
41:17
Yeah, there's that as well.
41:18
And I had many friends that did it, and I tried to keep up with the Joneses too.
41:22
It's, you get into this cycle of like trading up your car every two
41:27
years or whatever, every three years.
41:29
It's almost like a lease mentality when you don't have a lease.
41:33
You're just creating problems for yourself.
41:35
If you don't need to get rid of the car, then don't get rid of the car.
41:38
Just because you want, if you just want a new car to get a new car,
41:42
that's not a reason to get a new car.
41:43
That's fair.
41:44
And you know, you're touching on something that John Summers also talks about on some
41:48
of the other episodes he does by himself, where he goes to these seminars out in
41:52
California where he sits in and he listens to these lectures on these companies that
41:56
are building autonomous vehicles and all these new EVs and all this kinda stuff.
42:00
And the paradigm shift that's occurring in that space.
42:04
Because if Johnny Cab is the future, none of us will own cars.
42:08
We'll be calling up our little Johnny cab and it'll come and get us and or we'll
42:12
lease the car so it sits in our driveway and then it takes us where we wanna go.
42:16
But when the car needs to be repaired or replaced.
42:19
That's on Waymo or Google or whoever owns the car at that time, you know,
42:23
manufactures the car at that time to do the service and the repairs and all that.
42:28
But what's interesting about that, and I think the big block that everybody's
42:31
forgetting is when you shift to that new way of doing business, insurance
42:37
companies are out of business.
42:39
Mm-hmm.
42:40
Right.
42:41
Geico and Allstate and Jake from State Farm aren't gonna let that happen
42:46
because they wanna make their money too.
42:47
Then who are they insuring?
42:49
I'm not driving.
42:49
I, I'm just a passenger, so that's great.
42:52
I got a ton of money in my pocket at that point.
42:54
But then you need passenger insurance.
42:56
Exactly.
42:57
That's what it'll become.
42:58
It'll become like whoever it is, Waymo or whatever, they'll become the insurer.
43:02
It's like when you go to work, your employer provides you subsidized health
43:07
insurance, but you pay a part into that.
43:08
So now I don't own the car, but I'm taking part in this business.
43:12
Yeah.
43:13
Therefore, now I have to pay into the insurance of them.
43:18
Right.
43:18
And then they'll probably charge high premiums to Waymo or whoever, and
43:22
then that just gets passed on to you.
43:24
So you'll be paying for insurance on something you don't own because
43:27
you are a passenger in there.
43:29
So it's like renter's insurance basically.
43:31
Yeah, you need to pay for passenger's protection because
43:34
after all you got in that Waymo.
43:36
And if you hadn't chosen to get in that Waymo then it wouldn't have been on
43:40
the road at the time of an incident.
43:42
Now I will say, Brad, to your point, if you've ever ridden in a
43:45
cab in DC or New York, you almost wanna have passenger insurance.
43:49
'cause that is legit scary.
43:50
Yeah,
43:53
you're taking your life into your own hands.
43:54
You really are.
43:55
Like you need to up your life insurance every time you get in a cab in Manhattan.
43:58
But yeah, so there, there's definitely a paradigm shift there as well.
44:02
But the problem is if we ever get to that dystopia that they're
44:06
creating, there's gonna be a weird period where all of this overlaps
44:11
and it's gonna be the most chaotic nonsense that we've ever experienced.
44:16
And I hope it all happens like after we're gone, because I really don't
44:19
wanna have to suffer through it.
44:21
It's bad enough as it is.
44:22
Anyway, new car prices, ugh.
44:25
Lost found is all about digging up stuff that we haven't seen before
44:29
or, you know, we've forgotten about.
44:31
I keep saying this, how many more barns are there full of cars in this world?
44:39
I feel like, you know, the fours of Horizon games where you drive around,
44:42
you know, looking for the barn.
44:44
Another, it's got another classic car.
44:45
Like here we go again, another barn full of cars.
44:48
Well, this time it's a barn full of sobs and I'm looking at your face.
44:54
Yeah, I don't even know that I'm that interested in the sobs.
44:57
I'm actually more interested in this barn.
44:59
Like how did they get the cars up there?
45:02
Where is this barn Like, tell me more about this bar.
45:05
Well, they show you in, in the video, they have a forklift, so
45:09
that's how they got 'em up there.
45:11
I mean, it's pretty cool, right?
45:12
I mean, they're up in the air.
45:14
If you drove by this barn you were sniffing around, you wouldn't
45:17
even know these sobs were here.
45:18
This is a big barn.
45:20
How many cars are in there?
45:21
Like 20 plus easily, right?
45:23
Yeah.
45:25
So I teased this up earlier.
45:26
We're talking about you, you brought up peak cars.
45:29
You know, we're talking about the eighties and the nineties in another post that,
45:33
because you know, you go down a rabbit hole sometimes when you find this stuff.
45:36
Another post SOB 900 is the most underrated iconic car
45:41
of the eighties and nineties.
45:42
Is that right?
45:43
Is that a missed opportunity?
45:45
I don't know enough about them to comment.
45:48
I've driven one in my life.
45:51
It was an ugly green color and it was as quirky on the inside as is on the outside.
45:56
It was very strange to drive very quirky vehicles.
45:59
I, I mean, I thought French cars were weird and then I drove a sob, right?
46:03
It was just like, why is the key on the floor?
46:06
Like, what are we, that's where you put it.
46:08
Like it makes, no, there's some weird stuff that just makes no sense.
46:12
I think their whole thing is 'cause they were designed by like aerospace engineers.
46:17
Yeah.
46:17
Born from jets.
46:18
So they tried to take cues from like aviation and stuff like that.
46:22
That's not practical.
46:24
Oh.
46:24
That's why 99% of all the other car manufacturers didn't do that.
46:30
Bizarre.
46:30
Although, you know, I will say with wiser eyes, looking at
46:34
the SOB 900, I like its shape.
46:36
It's grown on me quite a bit.
46:38
There is one I see in in the city every now and again and I'm
46:41
like, it's in Black 900 Turbo.
46:43
And I'm just like, that's a cool car.
46:46
It really is kind of cool.
46:47
Then you remember how quirky it is and you're like, yeah, it's,
46:50
it's like not cool anymore.
46:52
I always thought the SOB 900 was a very weird looking nine 11.
46:58
Tell me I'm wrong.
47:00
No you're not.
47:00
You're not wrong at all.
47:02
Yeah.
47:02
It just looks like a very odd looking nine 11 because I used
47:06
to, there was a guy in my.
47:07
In my neighborhood in elementary school that it would park, it was
47:10
parked on the street all the time.
47:12
And I would look at it and I was like, what the f is that?
47:15
The nine 11 looks really funny.
47:17
Yeah.
47:18
All right.
47:19
We don't have any uncool wall, no Tesla gate for our season kickoff.
47:22
Brad, I'll give you three guesses what Tanya's gonna say for the next question.
47:26
Um, the answer is yes.
47:30
She did not watch the F1 movie.
47:32
Come on.
47:32
Are you serious?
47:34
That's, sorry, that's just wishful thinking.
47:37
Nope.
47:37
But I will have watched it by the next episode.
47:42
We got close the other day.
47:43
I was like, Hey, you wanna watch it?
47:45
And she was like, uh, how long is the movie?
47:49
And then I brought it up and then just literally like, walked out of my house.
47:52
Like did, it was like, duh.
47:54
So if she has not watched it by the weekend, I come up
47:57
there, we're gonna watch it.
47:59
I'm gonna, we're gonna tie her into a chair and make her sit there and watch it.
48:03
Clockwork Orange style.
48:05
Yes.
48:07
So Tanya be, if you're around that weekend, you better be prepared.
48:11
It is two and a half hours of your life.
48:13
You'll never get back.
48:14
Yeah.
48:15
But like 20 minutes of it is credits.
48:18
Or Brad Pitt on a motorcycle, one or the other, or Brad Pitt on a motorcycle
48:22
doing his weird talk days of thunder too.
48:25
That's what it is.
48:25
Yeah.
48:25
Days thunder too.
48:27
You mentioned some rich people.
48:28
Thanks.
48:29
Earlier we talked about the N 74.
48:31
We talked about those other cars.
48:33
But Brad, you dug this for Tanya and I couldn't help but start laughing at this.
48:39
Oh yeah.
48:40
Bugatti debuted a zero horsepower Bugatti factor one.
48:46
Can you guess what it is?
48:47
No.
48:47
What is that?
48:48
Is it a, it's not like another baby two or one of those go-kart things.
48:51
Is it It is a set of roller blades.
48:53
No, it's a, it's a road bike.
48:55
It's a bicycle.
48:57
Hence the, uh, the zero horsepower for the low, low price of,
49:01
for the low, low price of 24.
49:06
Thousand dollars.
49:08
Oh, brutal.
49:10
So how much are you paying per horsepower?
49:15
Can people actually make equivalent horsepower?
49:18
Has that ever been measured?
49:20
How much horsepower does a Olympic cyclist make?
49:24
Is that a thing?
49:25
So according to ai, an Olympic cyclist typically generates between 0.4 and
49:34
and three horsepower.
49:36
Wait, what did you say their answer was?
49:39
0.4 to three horsepower.
49:42
0.4 to three three would be a lot.
49:45
That's for like the elite of the elite.
49:48
Yeah.
49:48
That's a lot.
49:49
'cause you used to have to convert watts to horsepower.
49:53
Yeah.
49:53
Somewhere in 0.1 to a, a very normal person is probably not even 0.3.
50:02
Yeah.
50:03
I wonder if I could generate more horsepower for a very
50:07
much shorter amount of time.
50:09
Well, you got bigger pistons.
50:10
Yeah, I got bigger pistons.
50:11
I've got I I more displacement.
50:14
You're like a V eight.
50:15
She's like a turbo four.
50:17
I mean Yeah, exactly.
50:19
You got all them torque.
50:20
SI, yeah, I I can probably generate a lot of torque.
50:23
That's true.
50:25
Unless you're really stroking.
50:27
Wait, are you having a stroke?
50:35
Someone check my air Fuel?
50:37
Yeah.
50:37
You, your, your, your air fuel mixture would be, you'd be running
50:41
lean, you'd be out of breath.
50:45
Oh my God.
50:48
Oh, man.
50:49
I'm sorry, ma'am.
50:50
You're gonna have to go for an inspection.
50:52
Your methane levels are off.
50:54
You need a new catalytic converter.
50:56
I'd be cur, I'd be curious.
50:58
Now, I'd have to look.
51:00
I could probably hit 0.3 horsepower, but not very long Horsepower.
51:04
I feel like this is, this is a challenge.
51:06
We gotta, we gotta find a way to get this done.
51:09
Oh man.
51:10
I wonder if you could do that on a bike trainer and figure it out.
51:12
Yeah.
51:13
'cause I can, I can see, I can do a power run and see my wattage
51:17
and just convert it to horsepower.
51:18
All right.
51:19
You do that and you let us know next time.
51:21
I'll put a note for the next drive.
51:22
How much horsepower does Tanya make?
51:26
And for how long?
51:27
Yeah.
51:27
Oh, ooh, ooh.
51:30
Yeah.
51:30
So if you want to decrease the ratio of dollars per horsepower,
51:37
you just gotta be a better athlete.
51:39
So that means this is false advertising because you can make up the three
51:42
horsepower if you provide it yourself.
51:45
Yeah.
51:47
This is B-B-Y-O-H-P.
51:51
So it is a non-zero number is what we're saying.
51:54
This can actually produce a non-zero number because I love the sub quote here.
52:00
The Bugatti factor one isn't powered by horsepower at all, but by pure
52:04
human effort, making it one of the most unexpected Bugatti vehicles ever created.
52:10
Who comes up with this marketing nonsense?
52:13
Uh, and don't forget, if you're looking for that extra special automobile to
52:17
complete your garage office den or man cave, be sure to check out garage style
52:23
magazine.com for a list of upcoming auctions and events, along with a curated
52:27
list of items going up for sale all over the country, because after all,
52:31
what doesn't belong in your garage.
52:34
All right, well, let's switch gears and go to, are you faster than an Interceptor?
52:53
I found this article to be a bit of a boomerang because we're coming back to
52:58
a story we reported on a couple years ago on the drive through, and it's
53:02
about how the Austrians were switching over to EVs as their police cars.
53:08
Well, Austria has decided that they are going to pull the plug on EV police cars.
53:14
I would just like to say that I appreciate.
53:17
The author of this article who succinctly summarized in three bullet
53:22
points at the top of the article.
53:24
Mm-hmm.
53:25
In the first bullet point, Austrian police found EVs unsuitable for general
53:29
patrols due to range in charging issues.
53:31
That saved me from reading and reading and reading and reading and reading.
53:34
So thank you for that.
53:35
Yeah, it does go on for a long time.
53:37
I bet AI did that.
53:40
Maybe that's how I'm gonna do the drive through.
53:43
I'm gonna take each article, run it through AI and say,
53:46
gimme the bullet points.
53:47
You still won't be any more prepared than you are now.
53:50
Nope.
53:50
'cause I'm gonna forget I said this and then we're gonna
53:53
come back to next, next month.
53:55
Brad, since we're kicking things off, let's actually kick off
53:59
Tanya's Florida demand section here.
54:02
With a proper Florida man story, not totally related to cars, but
54:06
you sent us this one and I could not help but want to reshare it.
54:09
Why don't you read us what this one's about?
54:12
So you gotta take this with a grain of salt.
54:14
No, I don't.
54:15
As I was saying to Tanya earlier, I get a lot of posts and news and stories and
54:20
stuff on social media and I have no idea without fact checking if any of this
54:26
stuff is real or AI generated or whatever.
54:28
I'm gonna read the caption though.
54:30
A Florida man was arrested for attempting to baptize an alligator in a waffle
54:35
house using a picture of iced tea
54:41
on here every time.
54:42
Yeah.
54:43
Miami-Dade County, Florida.
54:45
So down in, down in southern Florida.
54:47
What witnesses are calling the most Waffle House moment in history?
54:51
Florida man was arrested after allegedly attending to baptize
54:54
a live alligator inside a wall house using a picture ice team.
54:57
I heard a story which was allegedly true from someone I met from Florida that said
55:03
they had seen somebody throw an alligator, like I guess a baby alligator out.
55:08
They had it in their car, threw a Wendy's drive through window.
55:12
So I mean, anything is possible.
55:15
Anything is possible in Florida.
55:16
So I don't believe this is real.
55:19
'cause the hashtags are funny.
55:21
Comedy F book lifestyle satire for entertainment only.
55:24
So I think this is like a, this is like the onion.
55:27
Yeah.
55:27
I think the Snopes fact check that as being not true.
55:31
I think it was staged.
55:33
Yeah.
55:33
I want it to be true though.
55:35
Really do, it could be true.
55:37
That's the reality.
55:39
I think still the killer is the old man with the leaf blower trying
55:42
to blow himself down the road on the, in the wheelchair, like.
55:45
That for me is one of the best Florida man memories.
55:48
I don't know.
55:49
The guy that lit his Malibu on fire with candles is pretty good too.
55:52
That was like the first drive through episode.
55:55
I love that Florida is so bonkers that we can't actually definitively say if
56:00
some of these stories are real or not.
56:02
Right.
56:03
All right.
56:04
Well Tanya, what do you have here on the list?
56:07
Well, the first one, I don't know why that link doesn't work anymore, but
56:10
apparently this person was a transporter and he was transporting some guys.
56:16
Porsche and his two scooters, and then decided that he needed to go to the DMV to
56:22
renew his license and his car wouldn't do.
56:25
So he took the Porsche that wasn't his.
56:28
And the owner I think had some sort of tracking on it and could realize
56:32
that it wasn't on the trailer, but it was like driving around somewhere.
56:35
Oh no.
56:37
Needless to say he was arrested.
56:39
LoJack to the rescue.
56:40
Note to self, you're transporting your car.
56:43
Put some ear tags or something in it.
56:45
Yeah, no kidding.
56:46
This next one though is even better.
56:48
So the title is.
56:50
Florida man doing 101 in a 55 trying to quote, avoid an animal.
56:59
The dude got pulled over and told deputy he was speeding to
57:03
avoid an animal in the roadway.
57:04
Under what circumstances?
57:06
Does that make sense?
57:07
Were you being chased by a cheetah?
57:09
By an ostrich?
57:10
They could do 45 miles an hour.
57:12
A cheetah can do a hundred, right?
57:15
80 or something like that At full tilt.
57:17
Yeah.
57:17
So a cheetah can do about 55, I think.
57:19
70. They can do 70.
57:21
Sorry.
57:22
Does he say what he was avoiding?
57:23
Was it a squirrel like or is an alligator?
57:26
It was himself.
57:28
Now the real question, what was he driving?
57:31
I know, and it doesn't say, all it says is dark four-door sedan.
57:36
What do we think it is?
57:37
Ultima?
57:38
It had to have been, had to have been Ultima.
57:40
I mean, it doesn't look like a a, it looks like an infinity interior.
57:44
They don't show it.
57:45
You found a picture?
57:47
Oh no, sorry, I'm looking at the, the, I'm getting tripped up by the, the body cam.
57:51
Yeah, yeah.
57:52
No, that's, that's a Olympian.
57:54
Shakar.
57:54
Richardson's getting pulled over, huh?
57:56
Yeah.
57:57
Can we actually use this excuse, excuse me, officer, but I was evading an animal.
58:01
I'm sorry, officer.
58:02
There was a squirrel.
58:04
I was being chased by a hippopotamus.
58:06
Don't they do like 25 mile an hour?
58:07
Was it like Jurassic Park?
58:09
It was a T-Rex.
58:11
Those seem pretty fast.
58:12
Little alarm.
58:13
I'm sorry, officer.
58:14
I was speeding.
58:14
To avoid the police.
58:16
I don't know that, that carries a lot of weight.
58:18
I, I, I was running from a pig.
58:20
Jesus Christ.
58:21
Before we wrap out this Florida man segment, just a little sneak peek.
58:26
Into season seven of Break Fix.
58:28
We have an author coming on the show here in the next couple of months.
58:32
His name is Jesse Fresco.
58:33
I met him at Awesome Con down in DC where I happened to bump into Max Kaiserman
58:38
from losing Replicas who was down there.
58:40
We can talk about that another time.
58:42
But he has this new little novella series, calls it the Autumn Frost Story series,
58:48
and the very first one takes place in the DMV and it's called Drive Like Hell.
58:54
And then there's gonna be a whole series of these novellas.
58:56
And so I just wanna read you a little bit of what it says here.
59:00
It says, autumn Frost never wanted much out of life.
59:03
A nice home in Annapolis, A decent job to live comfortably, someone to
59:07
love to wake up to every morning.
59:09
But life had other plans while out on her rounds is a two in from
59:13
driver, that means Uber or Lyft.
59:15
She picks up a hysterical young girl who's being chased by her boyfriend
59:18
with a gun as they speed off.
59:19
The girl admits that in her backpack is two pounds of fentanyl.
59:24
From that point on, the girl's boyfriend is after them.
59:26
A drug ring is after them.
59:27
A sociopath hit man and the cops, all of it is up to Autumn
59:31
Frost to drive like hell.
59:33
I'm excited for this and this actually leads into some other books
59:36
that Jesse has written, so really excited to have like proper Florida
59:40
man author coming on the show.
59:42
So look forward to that as the season progresses.
59:46
But you can pick up a copy of Jesse Fresco's books today if you're interested.
59:51
Well on that, it's time we go behind the pit wall and quickly
59:54
talk about commercial news.
59:57
The 2026 LAMA entry list has been posted really early compared to previous years.
1:00:04
Have you guys looked at this yet?
1:00:06
No.
1:00:07
62 cars Uhhuh across three classes.
1:00:11
Okay.
1:00:11
18 cars in hypercar.
1:00:14
19 in LMP two.
1:00:16
The rest of them in LM GT three.
1:00:18
What is this race again?
1:00:20
June.
1:00:20
June is Father's Day.
1:00:21
It's always Father's Day.
1:00:22
I don't think it's actually Father's Day weekend this year, is it not?
1:00:25
It's always like the longest day of summer, June 13th.
1:00:28
So here we go, hypercar, which is the only class anybody cares about.
1:00:32
Aston Martin with the Valkyrie Toyota with the new TRO one Oh that we talked about.
1:00:38
Cadillac, BMW, Genesis Magma, S Magma.
1:00:44
Alpine Ferrari eo.
1:00:48
That's a hell of a lineup.
1:00:49
So Porsche is out.
1:00:51
Porsche is out officially of Lama.
1:00:53
We skip over LMP two because they're all orcas with Gibson engine.
1:00:57
So whatever.
1:00:58
And then we get to LMGT three and we're looking at Corvette, McLaren, Ferrari,
1:01:02
Aston, BMW, Mercedes Ford, Lexus, and two private tier nine elevens.
1:01:09
So Porsche is out out of LAMA for 2026.
1:01:14
Other than the two private tier cars, can you believe it?
1:01:18
When was the last time Porsche didn't run in Lama?
1:01:21
Well, they stopped for a couple years when Toyota kept winning.
1:01:25
Why are the Iron Dames programs scaled back?
1:01:28
That, I don't know.
1:01:29
I had heard rumors, something there was changing as well.
1:01:32
They were getting a different card, different series or something like that.
1:01:35
Maybe I, and I don't wanna say getting out altogether, but there
1:01:38
was definitely some changes afoot, but I never dug into it more.
1:01:41
The Iron links, the men's version of the Iron Dames, they're still in it.
1:01:45
Why is there a men's version?
1:01:46
The rest of it's men's version, that's how they split it up.
1:01:49
The dynamic makes no sense to me either.
1:01:51
I don't see Jackie Chan racing either.
1:01:53
No.
1:01:54
Jackie Chan's been out for quite a while.
1:01:55
My,
1:01:58
and it's funny you bring that up.
1:01:59
I got to interview Jackie Chan.
1:02:01
No, I got to interview Ricky Taylor and he talks about racing for Jackie Chan.
1:02:05
I don't know if you remember or not.
1:02:06
He was one of the drivers for Jackie Chan racing in LMP two.
1:02:09
You interviewed Ricky or Jordan?
1:02:11
I've interviewed both of them, but when I interviewed Ricky, Ricky was talking
1:02:15
about how he raced for Jackie Chan now.
1:02:17
He never got to meet him, but he got to be part of the program
1:02:20
and all that kind of stuff.
1:02:21
So that was pretty cool.
1:02:21
Interesting.
1:02:22
That's cool.
1:02:23
So yeah, they announced the full roster of cars that are gonna
1:02:26
be running at LAMA this year.
1:02:28
I'm still excited even if Porsche's not there.
1:02:30
I'm really curious to see what Hyundai does with the Genesis magma
1:02:34
and how Aston does and all that.
1:02:37
But it's, I'm worried for Ferrari.
1:02:40
Uh, again, I've said they need to leave on a high.
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Ford is not here.
1:02:44
I would hate to see Ferrari lose to Ford, so maybe they'll get out before the
1:02:49
getting out is is not good, you know, but Ford is supposed to come by next year,
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right is, is what they said by 2027.
1:02:55
So we'll see this list change again, but I think this might be the first time
1:03:01
we've ever seen a Korean brand at the 24 hour lama, so that's pretty historic
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in and of itself, so pretty cool stuff.
1:03:09
Oh, by the way, last time we talked about the FIA WEC tv, since we're talking about
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watching the 24 hours of LAMA, and we didn't know what it was going to cost.
1:03:17
They did finally announce their pricing.
1:03:20
It's 49 euros.
1:03:22
You gotta do the conversion there.
1:03:23
49 euros a year.
1:03:25
So I thought that was not terrible.
1:03:26
So you get the entire WEC series and the 24 hours lama through
1:03:30
the FIA WEC TV plus subscription.
1:03:33
It's cheaper than what the F1 used to be.
1:03:35
Oh yeah, that's true.
1:03:36
Now we pay the Apple tax instead.
1:03:38
And in some sad news, motor sports legend Bobul passed away on March the 16th.
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Now some of you might be asking who?
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Bob Bobul.
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Who's that?
1:03:50
I, I, I might have heard that name before.
1:03:52
Well, you probably had, because TIUs famous for creating group 44 racing back
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in the 1960s and campaigning cars like the infamous group, 44 Jags at the 24 hours
1:04:05
of Lama and the Audi Quatros that ran in the United States in both TransAm and ISA
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in the late eighties and early nineties.
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So.
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An icon in the Motorsport world passed away just a couple
1:04:18
weeks ago, so sad to see it.
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He lived a long life.
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Nine five.
1:04:22
Yeah.
1:04:23
He's up there with Robert Deval now they're having some ice cream.
1:04:26
That's ice cream with Newman.
1:04:28
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Alright, well switching gears to the GTM track side report.
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As you guys know, we're doing a lemons build for the 24 hours of
1:04:52
Lemon series this season, and we wanted to give you an update on
1:04:56
our unfocused performance project.
1:04:58
The car's back, so what's next?
1:05:01
One of the toughest things so far outside of the ridiculous cost for
1:05:06
safety equipment has actually been trying to find parts for the Ford,
1:05:11
and especially something that's the equivalent of ECS tuning or FCP Euro.
1:05:16
We've talked about it behind the scenes and I don't think we ever
1:05:18
realize how good we have it with the German stuff until you go look
1:05:23
for parts to work on something else.
1:05:25
Like how easy we have it that you can go to an ECS tuning and get everything for
1:05:29
anything going back, put in your part numbers order from the Black forest.
1:05:33
You need this specialty that they keep making new parts for old cars.
1:05:37
The Ford, it's just, it's, the struggle is real.
1:05:40
Like if you're not getting it in advance, you're not getting it
1:05:42
anywhere kind of thing, you know?
1:05:43
And, and thank goodness for places like Speedway Motors and Rock Auto and Jags and
1:05:48
stuff like that where you can get stuff.
1:05:50
You'd think with something like a Ford focus, it'd be a lot easier to
1:05:53
get parts for it's un unexciting.
1:05:55
No wonder you all don't make cars anymore and just trucks
1:06:01
because there's no aftermarket for it, right?
1:06:03
But with as many of those cars as they sold and the popularity of hot
1:06:06
hatches and stuff like that, you would think there would be more places.
1:06:09
Now we're very fortunate.
1:06:10
One of the guys on the team brought us a website, FS Works, and that is a sort
1:06:15
of like a Euro tuning ECS kind of thing.
1:06:18
And we've been able to find some parts on there that look like,
1:06:21
hey, we can actually use that.
1:06:22
It might be track worthy and it's not just some, you know, street
1:06:25
racer parts or whatever, looking to find more of that kind of stuff.
1:06:28
So if any of our listeners out there know of places to get high performance
1:06:32
forward parts, especially for a focus, let us know, send us a note, hit
1:06:36
us up on Discord, whatever, because again, we're having those challenges,
1:06:39
sourcing the stuff we need that is track worthy to make sure that the car is
1:06:43
reliable going throughout the season.
1:06:45
Unfortunately because we had some setbacks timing wise, getting all the fabrication
1:06:50
work done and all that kind of thing, we are going to be missing our first event.
1:06:54
We were supposed to be going to mid Ohio.
1:06:56
We were not able to register in time 'cause the car is not ready.
1:06:59
There's still a ton of stuff to do.
1:07:01
We gotta put a clutch in it just to make sure that it is again, turnkey, reliable.
1:07:05
'cause the last thing you wanna do is go to this race and the thing
1:07:09
dies on you 20 minutes later.
1:07:10
So stuff like that's gotta get done.
1:07:13
People are still asking, you know, how can we help?
1:07:15
Well, a couple different ways you can help.
1:07:17
You can come and hang out, you can turn wrenches if you want, stuff like that.
1:07:20
But the one thing that goes the longest is if you've got a couple extra bucks
1:07:23
to spare, even if it buys us gas or we put it towards tires or whatever,
1:07:27
we do have a specials tier on Patreon.
1:07:30
You can go to patreon.com/gt motorsports and sign up to contribute and help
1:07:34
sponsor our lemons team so we can get to our first event safely,
1:07:39
reliably, and be able to report back on what the experience is like.
1:07:42
So our first event shifted from Mid-Ohio.
1:07:46
Two New Jersey.
1:07:47
We're gonna be running Thunderbolt in June.
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One of my favorite tracks.
1:07:50
It's an awesome lap.
1:07:51
So looking forward to having the car ready to go by mid-June for the NJMP event.
1:07:56
So we'll see you there.
1:07:57
And then the plan from that point forward will be Summit Point and I am hoping
1:08:04
to go to Road Atlanta in December.
1:08:06
'cause that sounds like a lot of fun.
1:08:08
We've been there before.
1:08:10
We know what that's like.
1:08:11
I think that's worth the tow to go down there and do that.
1:08:14
And then maybe if there's enough money, it'd be cool to do Nelson
1:08:17
Ledges or one of the other tracks in the middle of the summer, but we just
1:08:20
gotta have to see how things play out.
1:08:22
But New Jersey for sure, and June, and then Summit Point as well.
1:08:26
So looking forward to it.
1:08:27
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1:09:37
She's just being honest folks.
1:09:40
She's auditioning for the reboot of Vi Wwki.
1:09:43
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Actually, I think Kathleen Turner should say TRO this time.
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Tro.
1:10:13
Oh my God.
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It's deeper than mine.
1:10:16
That's what she said.
1:10:17
Sultry.
1:10:20
Can you imagine, Tanya?
1:10:22
On a bicycle, on a dyno?
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Let, let's go.
1:10:25
Let's see how much worse power you make.
1:10:29
All I know is I don't wanna be around when they do the air fuel.
1:10:35
Freaking tail pipe dust.
1:10:38
You fail missions.
1:10:44
Oh my God, it is outro, outro, outro.
1:10:47
Air, fuel, nail pipe test remain.
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Remember, failing to prepare is just preparing to fail.
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There you go, deep.
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Sorry, I gotta compose myself.
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Woo.
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Oh my.
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