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- 0:00Gather together from the cosmic reaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.
- 0:11There was a time in college I did have a lot of movie posters up. I think, yeah, I guess Major Payne. The Great White Hype I think I also had.
- 0:17Terry.
- 0:18They picked the lock to Eric's laugh box.
- 0:20Derek.
- 0:21It's sushi being fed through a hole in the wall. Hear me out.
- 0:26And the Power Twins, Zapp and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort dedicated Welcome back to Fumbling Their Way Through Movies, one forgotten gem at a time.
- 0:35This week we watch the 2016 musical mockumentary, Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping.
- 0:39This is Fumbling Through Film.
- 0:42You know, a lot of people ask me that. They say like, is it weird for you to be playing the background now? 'Cause, you know, you used to be in Style Boys. And I always say, no, man, not at all. I mean, 'cause I, I could never do what Connor does, you know?
- 0:57Look, I'm a perfectionist. My first album sold 4 million copies, so this one has to sell more. And that's why I take this so seriously, you know? And I live for this music and it can't go away. That's why I personally wrote every song on this record. And I used over 100 producers for just 17 tracks to guarantee that they're all hits.
- 1:20I made a lot of the beats on the first record, but on this one, Connor said he really wanted to branch out. It's good for him to grow, you know? And also, I played him a bunch of my beats and he was like, no.
- 1:31Hello and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, brand new, genre-defying episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. These, however, aren't just any movies. Yes. They are any movie. No, no. These are the ones we've either missed, overlooked, feel are simply worth revisiting. Hence why I say they're any movie, but they're not any movie. They're gonna argue. We'll get to it later. Anyway, my name is Derek and I am a fumbler. Joining me here in the Fumbledome, the one-time planetarium now converted to screening room, is the one and only Prime Minister of Fumbling and Film, Keith.
- 2:21Hey, hey, what's up, KG? Fumbler extraordinaire. The humblest.
- 2:27The humblest. Wow, I'm glad you put that out there because he's a humbler and a fumbler. Oh, it's the humbler fumbler.
- 2:37God dang it.
- 2:39Yep, see, it's all right, Keith. That other one over there is— that's the quickest humbler fumbler is the Dr. Dre of Kansas. Well, he came up with that joke faster than anybody else.
- 2:51That's true.
- 2:52He's the young guy, he's got the young mind. Yeah, he's got the young brain.
- 2:55He's got a fast young brain. It's the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.
- 2:58I've got a serious case of the young brain, and it just— let me tell you, my mind moves so fast. It's, it's great, and it can be a curse at the same time.
- 3:07Oh my God, I can only imagine.
- 3:09This powerful speed is just such a burden to bear. Oh God.
- 3:15Well, please make it at least through this episode, Terry, before you—
- 3:18Okay, before my brain explodes.
- 3:19Existential.
- 3:20Yeah. I can only go for so long before my brain just, yeah, jumps out of my skull and starts running off itself.
- 3:26Oh God.
- 3:28I mean, we'll record, we'll record with it. That's fine.
- 3:30Oh yeah, just give it like a text-to-speech thing. It'll be fine.
- 3:33The brain of the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry's brain.
- 3:36Hello, it's me.
- 3:38And it talks very slowly. It would be amazing.
- 3:41Well, this is pretty new to talking itself, you know.
- 3:45Yeah, well, it's— its thoughts are moving so fast, but it's— hello.
- 3:49It had to like grow a little mouth on it, so it's still getting used to that.
- 3:53Luckily, I'm not new to talking because I need to retell everybody what it is we do here.
- 3:58True.
- 3:59We, every month, we watch movies, but not just any movies, right? This is where that comes in. They're any movies, but they're not any movies because one of us picks a genre, a theme, a guiding light, a north star, a compass, a map, uh, yes, something. Oh. The topic is like our Sherpa as we climb the mountain of the month.
- 4:24Oh, you're right. I like that. It is.
- 4:26So one of us picks a topic, we all adhere to that topic, and then the 4th week we spin a wheel of death and it chooses a random movie for us that was kind of tangentially mentioned throughout the course of the month. Anyway, this month is a Keith month and he chose the topic of Uh, fictitious bands. Fictitious bands. Movies that feature or are based around a fictitious musical group.
- 4:57Or, yeah, or musician in general. Or musician. Yeah, that's got to be the focal point of the movie. So, uh, Eddie and the Cruisers was week 1.
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:06No, uh, week 2 was Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story.
- 5:11The Dewey Cox story, Terry picked that. And then this week is my choice, and I chose Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping. Now, before we get into Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, or we do a deep dive into Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, did either of you have any history with Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping?
- 5:32I, I think I saw it. I don't know if I watched all the way through before. Or at least I just really understood and knew what the concept was.
- 5:40I— yeah, I've seen this movie before. Um, I'm a big— I like Andy Samberg a lot. Um, so I have seen this. Yeah, because of Hot Rod, basically. Um, big Hot Rod guy over here. Uh, but, um, yeah, I've seen it before. So yeah, pretty familiar.
- 5:55I had heard of it, had never seen it. I am a big Lonely Island fan, but I've never seen any of their movies except for I'd seen the new Naked Gun recently, so Oh yeah, they're like related to that, aren't they? Yeah, kinda, I would say.
- 6:08Okay.
- 6:09All right, well, let's do it. Let— I'm gonna, I'm gonna do something that's never been done before.
- 6:15Oh really?
- 6:15I'm gonna get us closer to Popstar, never, never stop, never stopping, than anyone thought would be possible.
- 6:23That's true.
- 6:23In our patent-pending Fumbler's Deep Dive, which is a recurring segment, but no one's ever done it for this movie before. Not for Popstar.
- 6:30Yeah, that's why it's brand new.
- 6:31Yeah, go get ready. Popstar. Never Stop Never Stopping. This son of a bitch came out on June 3rd, 2016. It is rated R. It comes in at a very nifty 1 hour 27 minutes. Mm-hmm. When it becomes clear that his solo album is a failure, a former boy band member does everything in his power to maintain his celebrity status. This movie was created with a $20 million budget. It opened to $4.7 million. and closed with $9.68 million. So not the biggest theatrical run. And not terribly surprising, but it is what it is. It's written by, directed by, and stars The Lonely Island. It's just Andy Samberg, Akiva Schaffer, and Jorma Taccone. Uh, it's— well, it's directed by Akiva Schaffer and Jorma Taccone, and it stars all 3. Right, so let's get started with that. I'm gonna go with Akiva Schaffer first. He plays Lawrence. He has 32 writing credits, mostly Lonely Island and SNL stuff, but also he wrote the new Naked Gun.
- 7:42Ah, okay.
- 7:44He has 65 directing credits, like the new Naked Gun, 11 episodes of I Think You Should Leave, Chip 'n Dale's Rescue Rangers.
- 7:54Oh.
- 7:54He has 37 acting credits, mostly Lonely Island things, but he also has roles in Weird: The Al Yankovic Story. He played Alice Cooper. Oh, Scream 6, he played a subway Ghostface. Uncredited.
- 8:07What? Oh, cameo. Interesting.
- 8:09In 2012, he played Casual Wanker Number 3 in The Watch.
- 8:14Did you say winker or wanker?
- 8:16Wanker.
- 8:17Okay.
- 8:17But in 2019, he directed and starred as Mark McGwire in The Unauthorized Bash Brothers Experience.
- 8:24That is fantastic.
- 8:25The Lonely Island spoofs notorious baseball stars Jose Canseco and Mark McGwire in this visual rap album set in the Bash Brothers' 1980s heyday. It is one of my favorite, like, 28 minutes of Netflix that exists.
- 8:38Wow.
- 8:38Yeah.
- 8:39This movie also has Jorma Taccone in it. He— I hope that's how you pronounce his last name. I've never heard it said. I've only ever read it. He plays Owen the DJ. He's got 32 writing credits, mostly Lonely Island and SNL. But he also wrote 2010's MacGruber movie.
- 8:54Oh, nice.
- 8:56He has 25 directing credits, like MacGruber.
- 8:59He directed that?
- 9:01Yes. Some Pepsi Zero commercials, uh, and an episode of Knuckles, the Sonic spinoff. Oh, wow. An episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine, a couple eps of Parks and Recreation, 26 episodes of Saturday Night Live. He has 72 acting credits, like he was Kyle Lancebottom in Sonic the Hedgehog 3. He was in that? Yeah, Adriano Tomino in Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse. Okay, he's an American pickle. He was in The Lego Movie 1 and 2. He was Green Goblin in Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse.
- 9:34Really?
- 9:35He was Casual Wanker Number 2 in The Watch.
- 9:38He was Green Goblin? Yes, the one who tours and doesn't say anything.
- 9:42Gets killed right away.
- 9:43Yeah, yeah, that's about it. And in 2007, he played Kevin Powell in Hot Rod. Self-proclaimed stuntman Rod Kimball is preparing for the jump of his life to clear 15 buses to raise money for his abusive stepfather's— I've never seen the movie— abusive stepfather's Frank's life-saving heart operation. Stars Andy Samberger— Samberger— Sam Berger.
- 10:08That's— you should make a restaurant, you know, like Wahlburgers but Andy Samberger.
- 10:13Isla Fisher and Ian McShane. I assume Ian McShane is the abusive stepfather.
- 10:17Comedic voice of his generation is what I've heard though about this.
- 10:20It is probably good things.
- 10:22Never seen it, but I've heard good things.
- 10:23Watched movie, uh, of my youth. And not just from Terry.
- 10:26I've had other people tell me that was really good.
- 10:28Oh, it's great. It's great.
- 10:31It is generational.
- 10:32It's huge.
- 10:33Generational. This movie also has the other— the 3rd member of Lonely Island called Andy Samberger.
- 10:40Did it again. Yum, I'm getting hungry.
- 10:43Andy Samberg, he plays Connor. He has 33 writing credits, mostly the Lonely Island stuff and SNL, but he also wrote 16 episodes of Digman, and he was on this— wrote the 67th— he's part of the writing team of the 67th Primetime Emmy Awards.
- 10:59Wow.
- 11:00He has 116 acting credits for things like The Roses, Good Burger 2, Hotel Transylvania 2, Bad Neighbors, Grown Ups 2, Friends with Benefits, But in 2012, he plays casual wanker number 1 in The Watch.
- 11:18Wow, a lot of wankers in this.
- 11:204 men who form a neighborhood watch group as a way to get out of their day-to-day family routines find themselves defending the Earth from an alien invasion. Stars Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, Jonah Hill, and Richard Ayoade.
- 11:35So it took you 3 times to mention that movie. Before I finally realized what, what movie it was.
- 11:42Yeah, I've never seen it.
- 11:43I either have— I, I, if I remember right, it was originally going to be called Neighborhood Watch, but something, something bad had happened like in the real world right before it came out, and so they changed. I'm sure it was bad and racist.
- 11:58Uh, this movie literally has a ton of people in it, much like the Dewey Cox story. It's kind of silly. I'm gonna focus on a couple Uh, just, I, I did this before I watched the movie, so I just picked names that I like. And one of them is not Tim Meadows because we already did Tim Meadows last week, but Tim Meadows is amazing. Just gonna do that. This movie has Maya Rudolph, who plays Deborah in it.
- 12:22Uh, one of them might be one of my favorite lines in the whole thing when they're like, where, where's that from? And she goes, uh, where's that? Yeah, I, I laughed very hard at that line. I'm like, that's such a stupid throwaway line.
- 12:36That's why I liked it. Yeah, she has 124 acting credits going all the way back to 1996. She's probably best known for 167 episodes of Saturday Night Live, but she is also in 81 episodes of Big Mouth. She's in the movie If. She did a voice in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Mutant Mayhem. Uh, she's in As Good As It Gets, 50 First Dates, Idiocracy, Bridesmaids. She was Aunt Cass in Big Hero 6. Oh, she was in the Angry Birds movie, Hubie Halloween, The Mitchells vs. the Machines, one of my favorites. But in 2021, she played Gail in Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza. A young man and a young woman grow up and run, run around and fall in love in San Fernando Valley, 1973, starring Alaina Haim, Cooper Hoffman, and Sean Penn.
- 13:26Yep, I saw it in theaters.
- 13:29Was it good?
- 13:30Uh, it was all right. I liked it, kind of.
- 13:32All Thomas Anderson movie.
- 13:34Mm-hmm. Yeah, I enjoyed some aspects of it.
- 13:37And finally, this movie has Bill Hader as Zippy. He was like a guitar tuner, backhand stage guy.
- 13:45He's like a roadie.
- 13:46Yeah, he has 126 acting credits going back to 2004, probably best known for 161 episodes of Saturday Night Live, but he also has 32 episodes of Barry, 7 episodes of The Venture Brothers. He was in Beau Is Afraid, Lightyear, It Chapter 2, Sausage Party, 22 Jump Street, Her, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 1 and 2— enjoy them both. He was a voice in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, but in 2008, he played studio executive Rob Slalom in Tropic Thunder.
- 14:21Oh.
- 14:21Through a series of freak occurrences, a group of actors shooting a big-budget war movie are forced to become the soldiers they are portraying. Starring Ben Stiller, Jack Black, and Robert Downey Jr.
- 14:34Nice. That is a movie I have not seen in a long time.
- 14:37But it's on the, uh, that's on my list of, uh, of rewatches that I've got going right now. That's on the, the comedy list.
- 14:46Ain't never seen.
- 14:48Really? Yeah.
- 14:50You guys want some, uh, Popstar Never Stop Never Stopping fun facts?
- 14:54Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
- 14:56Yeah, hit me with some of that PSNS facts.
- 15:00PSNS sounds, sounds perfect. What did you say, Keith?
- 15:05Never mind, I didn't even know that.
- 15:08Most of the shots of the large crowd were actually footage from a One Direction concert.
- 15:14Wow, okay.
- 15:14Real-life rappers 50 Cent, Diddy, Nas, etc., talking about their love for Style Boys were not scripted. Their responses were based on questions asked by the Lonely Island as if it were about real-life rap group Beastie Boys. So it's basically like, we're asking a question, pretend you're talking about the Beastie Boys, but instead of saying Beastie Boys, say Style Boys, please. In this movie, Seal says he got scars on his face from wolves. In real life, he got his scars from lupus. Did not know that. An autoimmune disease. The scientific name for wolves is Canis lupus, though. So there you go.
- 15:51So, whoa, he's half right. Yeah, he's— it's like a— I don't know, that's just a happy coincidence.
- 15:57Several of the songs, including Finest Girl, Mona Lisa, Owen's Beat, and Incredible Thoughts, feature Greg Kurstin as writer and/or producer. In 2017, Kurstin won the Grammy for Producer of the Year as well as Song of the Year and Record of the Year, not for any of these songs, but for co-writing Hello with Adele.
- 16:18Oh, hello.
- 16:19Yeah, so he wrote like one of the biggest songs of the last quarter century, probably.
- 16:25Well earned, I suppose.
- 16:27I, I think so. The character Hunter the Hungry is a parody of Tyler, the Creator. I enjoyed Hunter the Hungry. Uh, the male fan pressing himself up against the window of Connor's limo with an exposed genital, uh, was played by Judd Apatow. What he said, why did I do it? I just felt like I had, I had asked so many people to get naked for comedy, like Jason Segel's full frontal scene in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, that in this instance I should give back and show that I can walk the walk.
- 17:02Wow. So he volunteered to do that one? Yeah. Interesting.
- 17:05Okay, so I don't have to show my face. Yeah, say anything.
- 17:08Yeah, he's hiding.
- 17:09Yeah, I don't want to show my face, but We'll put in the trivia.
- 17:12Yes. The book Connor reads, How to Be a Better Friend, was written by visual effects supervisor David Neindengel. Neindengel. Neindengel. That's what it is. So the actual book, actual book written by the visual effects supervisor. Yep.
- 17:30Wow.
- 17:32And then finally, this is the second time Judd Apatow produced a movie about a fictional singer. After Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story in 2007.
- 17:39Yes, yes, sounds familiar.
- 17:44That's as close as we could possibly get to Popstar Never Stops Never Stopping.
- 17:48That was really—
- 17:48I didn't even realize I was doing that.
- 17:52He shouldn't have said that.
- 17:54Uh, yeah, I mean, I was worried that we were never gonna stop Never Stopping getting closer to it.
- 17:59Yeah, well, I, I was pumping the brakes the entire time, and then I slammed on the brakes when we got too close.
- 18:05Yeah, I like to get back. I like it when we get really close to something and then just stop really fast so that I get a little like— which just, you know, shakes me into like a shocked state. Kind of gives me that adrenaline boost, which is nice right before we start the show.
- 18:19Jars you back into reality, right? It's like, oh, as your brain rattles around in your skull.
- 18:25Uh-huh.
- 18:25Yeah, got goddamn close.
- 18:27Satan damn close.
- 18:28What?
- 18:29Satan damned close.
- 18:32What?
- 18:32I don't know. I got Satan. Satan.
- 18:35Damn close. Yeah, I think you were saying Thetan. Like, yes, like Xenu and, uh, and the Church of Scientology here. No.
- 18:46Well, he could damn us too, probably, I guess. I don't know what kind of powers he has, but probably.
- 18:51Yes. All right, well, we're not going to measure our Thetans or Yeah.
- 18:57Who's got the most damnation power? Satan, Thetan, or, uh, God? Who knows?
- 19:04All 3 combined into one.
- 19:05It's our new podcast.
- 19:06Satan, Thetan, or God?
- 19:09Who would you choose in each of these specific situations? Listeners tune, like, send us questions and be like, hmm, well, who would be most, uh, lenient on this? Let's see.
- 19:17Unless we do it like a marry, fuck, kill thing, but the answers are Satan, Thetans, or God. We do that every episode. Yeah. Well, I guess I'd God this person. Don't you know what that means? It makes no sense. Oh, I see.
- 19:32Yeah, well, I'd God this and then I would Satan.
- 19:34Oh, or are you saying marry, fuck, kill Satan, Thetan? That's what I was wondering.
- 19:38I was like, we're gonna do— we're gonna decide that depending on the day. It could change.
- 19:42Yeah, I guess, I guess I'd marry God this week. I don't know.
- 19:45Yeah, I'd probably marry God of all of them, probably.
- 19:50All right, we did it. Let's do it. Uh, let's talk about Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, because it is, like Terry said, a mockumentary. And I, I don't know if I was ready for it to be like a full-fledged mockumentary. I thought it was gonna be more of a narrative.
- 20:04Yeah.
- 20:04Uh, but I didn't mind it.
- 20:07Yeah, I forgot that was a mockumentary too, and I was like, this is kind of strange. But I got used to it after a while. I felt like the, the, the, um, pacing, you know, it threw me off for a second just because of the style, but I got, I got into it after a little bit.
- 20:20And I like the Lonely Island. I like Lonely Island songs, and there's a lot of that in here. So it's almost like extended Saturday Night Live digital shorts at times, right? Yeah, yeah.
- 20:32I felt like they were just like, we have a bunch of funny songs, we just need to write— I could have done maybe 8 to 10 minutes of the Bin Laden song. That was so funny.
- 20:40I couldn't stop laughing at how insane that was.
- 20:45It just keeps getting deeper and deeper with it.
- 20:47Yeah, you need to invade this cave. Technically, he wasn't in a cave. So there's this whole, this whole back and forth in the song, and she's like putting on a beard.
- 20:58And yes, yeah, yeah, that's— that song is really funny. The Humble song is really funny too.
- 21:04Yes.
- 21:05Um, they're all— all the songs are pretty good.
- 21:06I think all the songs are funny. Yeah, the, the Not Gay song is that— yeah, offensively funny.
- 21:14Yeah, especially like when the video ends and Pink gives them like that look like Why am I like? He's like, why am I here almost?
- 21:20Yeah, it's like a supposed to be like a yeah a gay anthem. Like we're just supportive of like of like LGBTQ plus whatever. But then like he keeps insisting in the middle. I'm not gay with the manly things that he likes. Not gay monster trucks and ninjas. No sports. But of course I support them, but I'm not gay. Let me remind you.
- 21:44So I like all that stuff. And I, I will say this, I laughed plenty at this movie. I laughed quite a bit at most of the jokes. And I think my favorite joke, it was, it was so flipping stupid, is when, uh, he finds out the album's doing poorly and then they, they cut the cameras and then the bees attack and then he gets out the flamethrower and it's like this descriptive thing.
- 22:10It's clean.
- 22:13Yeah, merc, merc, merc you all. And he's just like blowing up all these, these bees.
- 22:19Get my flamethrower quick.
- 22:20Yeah, you don't see any of it. To me, that, that type of joke right there like hits my sweet spot. I love that joke.
- 22:27Yeah, that's like the outrageous, uh, just off-the-wall kind of stuff that I really like.
- 22:32There is a— I, I don't want to say it— there's a similar toned joke in the new Naked Gun movie. that I absolutely love. Oh, that involves a snowman.
- 22:45Okay.
- 22:46And it is— it, it, it takes a long time and it's like this whole like montage, but man, is it good. It is so funny.
- 22:54Um, I was gonna— it's kind of similar to like the Dewey Cox thing, but I feel like it's, I don't know, like different in certain— like the style, obviously. Like this is more mockumentary, the other one is like more, uh I don't know, like a vignette in his life, you know, going through his different stages. And then I, I honestly, I think I like—
- 23:14I laughed more at the Dewey Cox one than I laughed at this one. Um, really? But yeah, yeah, I— but I still enjoyed this. I think the songs are generally better in this one. I like just like— because then these ones, it's almost like just so over the top.
- 23:27Yes.
- 23:28And ridiculous. I, I really like that.
- 23:30I know it's the Lonely Island guys, so like, and they're, you know, they're evolving over time and stuff like that. But the problem I had with these songs was that I know that Sushi Glory Hole exists. Oh, and it's hard to like listen to any of those songs and be like, oh, all right, this is gonna be really— nope, it's not. It's not that level.
- 23:47Well, it's— it was— Sushi Glory Hole is a special sort of song. Uh, yes, these are, these are made specifically for this movie though, I think, as well, right?
- 23:58So yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. But I'm just like, okay, well, as far as like their the Lonely Island songs come up though, like, I'm like, like, the fact that I know that song exists, it— I'm like, all right, these other songs are fun, but man, they got that, they got that one other thing that just—
- 24:11And because you said it out loud, I'm gonna have it's sushi being fed through a hole in the wall, hear me out. I'm gonna hear that in my head for the rest of the week now.
- 24:22Yeah, sorry about that.
- 24:24It's all right.
- 24:25Yeah. Um, and I think the other thing is Yeah, I think the fact that we just watched a movie that, even if it's not in a mockumentary style, was a very similar of, all right, here's somebody becoming, you know, somebody becoming a star, and then the drop-off, and then they get that like little redemption thing at the end, you know, including like a, a special concert presentation type thing for the ending part of, of both movies and the, the similar— the similarity there. My only part is like, it— I think like in Dewey Cox, like he, he kind of goes through a number of stages before it finally kind of really falls off. And this one was like 10 minutes in, he's at the peak, and just boom, the next—
- 25:07he's at the—
- 25:08the other hour and 10 minutes is like just falling completely apart the rest of the time.
- 25:13Yeah.
- 25:13Until like the last 10 minutes of the movie. So I think I, maybe I would have wanted to see a little bit more of like his— the rise to fame part a little bit longer. Before, before it dropped off or something. Maybe I, that might've been, 'cause I, I thought at one point in time I was like, okay, can we get onto like the redemption part of this?
- 25:30I, I liked all the Lawrence stuff where like, he's like, yeah, I'm a farmer now. Like all the stuff we see, he's just like the worst farmer ever. Like he's like, yes, can't like chop wood. He's like woodworking, which woodworking's okay.
- 25:41But like, I made a hat. This is a hat. Yeah.
- 25:43Like he's like, it just seems like an obvious, like this, this rich guy went out in the, like, is out in the wilderness somewhere just like doing his own thing, even though he doesn't know what he's doing. And then it's revealed that he's actually just I mean, he doesn't even farm it though.
- 25:57He just hollers down to him.
- 25:58Yeah, he's like on a hill, like looking over. Yeah, he's like— I feel like he's back in like the nature, but I feel like he's almost playing that up for the documentary, you know? Because like, yeah, he probably doesn't do that at all unless they're there.
- 26:10Was this movie a masterpiece? No, but I really did enjoy it more. Like, it made me laugh out loud several times, which unfortunately Dewey Cox didn't do, and I wanted it to and it didn't.
- 26:21Yeah, no knock. I, I did enjoy watching this one.
- 26:24Yeah, I thought it was good.
- 26:25It just seemed like the, the fall was taking a little too long to hit rock bottom at one point.
- 26:31I will say that first half hour does kind of plod a little slowly, and I don't know if it's because it's mostly just like extended music videos or whatever, right? But there isn't a whole lot happening to make it move forward. But there were things that kept making me laugh. It was like a lot of funny just scenes put together and then mixed with some funny songs. Like the whole, the whole making fun of the Apple Music putting U2 songs— Yes. iPods, but it's in everybody's washer and dryer.
- 27:04Their refrigerators. That was funny, right?
- 27:06Like, I like that, but it caused a blackout. Yeah, funny, right? I liked it, but it wasn't great to, you know, I don't know.
- 27:16I don't, I don't feel like plot is that important in this film. Like, I feel like it's mostly— yeah, they thought of funny ideas and they'd like found a way to throw it in there. Like, I don't think that the story is really that great, but it makes up for it because of the quirkiness, the ridiculousness. Like, it's not the most important thing about this. It's mostly, yeah, like, here's the next funny like segment we're doing, here's the next—
- 27:37Put that crazy helmet on Owen.
- 27:39Yes. Yeah, that helmet was awesome and it made the Inception trailer Why would I need that? A beam of light directly into the sky. They're probably blind planes.
- 27:51They, they show that plane fly by it, and later on he's like, he's tipping over and it's shining on all the people in the audience.
- 27:57That thing is like shooting out into space, like that's signaling the aliens to like come find us. I feel like, like, yeah, stupid.
- 28:04Some sort of anomaly on Earth.
- 28:06Just—
- 28:08I, I did enjoy that. I enjoyed the proposal scene with the wolves and Seal.
- 28:14Yeah, yeah. And he's like—
- 28:16and then Seal ends up, uh, stealing his wife anyway, or is he— Yeah, stealing his wife.
- 28:21Yeah, I love that when he's like, I've survived before, I can do it again. He's like, what? He gets taken out by a wolf. Fighting wolves.
- 28:31Yeah, he trusted the Yelp review for Party Wolves just too hard. Like, that stuff just It kills me because it's very stupid.
- 28:41Oh, it makes those pancakes for everybody?
- 28:43Yes, with shit in them. Yes. But like, those things are stupid. Like, just dumb. But it's the kind of stupid and dumb I really like that just tickles me to no end.
- 28:53I think that the— at least with like Andy Samberg stuff that I've seen, like, he really does excel with like the— just so stupid, so ridiculous, like off the wall, like hyperreality kind of thing. I don't know if that's the right word for, you know, like just like such a He does a really good job playing it with the overly over-the-top kind of ridiculous— Stupid.
- 29:13He plays a really good character who's good at what they do but also an idiot.
- 29:18Yeah, yeah, he does, he does do that pretty well.
- 29:21Yeah, like Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Like, yes, he's a good cop in that, but he's also a moron most of the times in that as well.
- 29:28Stupid but confident. I feel like that's what he does really well.
- 29:31Yeah, speaking of, I like the fake TMZ stuff, or CMZ, whatever it was called. Yeah, with Will Arnett running the show. But it cracked me up because what's her name? Uh, Peretti.
- 29:42Uh, yeah, what's her name? I can't think of it.
- 29:44Jordan Peele's wife.
- 29:45Jordan Peele's wife, right? So she's in Brooklyn Nine-Nine, so she was there. But then also Eric Andre, and then Mike Birbiglia, the stand-up comedian, had the long blonde—
- 29:55Oh, is he, is he the one with the blonde hair? Yeah. Okay.
- 29:57Yeah, that whole—
- 29:58those segments were so Stupid but funny when they're laughing really hard and like Eric Andre's like shaking, like screaming.
- 30:06Yeah, yeah.
- 30:07I loathe TMZ with like every fiber of my being.
- 30:12Yes, like suck on the straws.
- 30:14Yes.
- 30:14Do we, do we have somebody leaving away?
- 30:16James Franco leaving a Denny's. I do.
- 30:19Yes, we do.
- 30:20All right, instead of actually being honest with one another, they gotta go back to being paparazzi assholes. Cracks me up. I like that. And the amount of comedians that are in this movie is, is ridiculous. I mean, a lot of the Saturday Night Live people Pretty much. It's almost everybody that was in Dewey Cox is pretty much.
- 30:35Yeah, I was like, wow, he was in there. Oh, he was in this too. Yeah, yeah.
- 30:39Sarah Silverman, I always liked her. She's in here. Yep. Oh, and the very, the very, very rare appearance of seeing Joan Cusack without her brother in a movie does not happen very often.
- 30:52Playing the mom.
- 30:54Playing the mom. Yeah, partying with all the kids.
- 30:58Yeah, yeah. Oh no, you, you get some first. Kids first. Yeah, I'm watching her house because she's on tour with Fall Out Boy.
- 31:06Yeah, I think all the cast like goes well together. Like you can— I feel like, yeah, all of these comedy movies, like all these people seem to like, you know, they have— there's like a— it's a tight-knit group. They all know each other in this— in Hollywood, so they can just like ask them to like, hey, you want to be in like a scene of this? Like, oh yeah, yeah.
- 31:20And like a lot of them are just like in little, little micro moments.
- 31:24It's like— and I like that— not even a major role. Yeah, like it's just like, you're gonna be the TMZ guy. Like, okay, you know, it's like But they're down because they're just friends and they want to joke around and do stuff. Like, I feel like that's— at least, at least with Dewey Cox in this, I feel like that's kind of a, a trend with some of these comedy movies.
- 31:40And I know, I know he's only a producer on them and not directing, but I'm sure a lot of that has to do with, you know, Judd Apatow.
- 31:46Ah, Judd.
- 31:47I think there's that. But I mean, people say that Lonely Island, they were on Saturday Night Live and Saturday Night Live writers for like 8 years, right? So yeah. They cross paths with a lot of those people.
- 31:59And Judge just like, yeah, you know, if you come on the set, you might see something a little special this time.
- 32:04Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yep, a little wing-wing action.
- 32:09Yep. Yeah, a lot of cameos, and I like it when movies do that, at least like these kind of movies. It's fun. Yeah, like, oh, I like this guy.
- 32:16Justin Timberlake is Tyrus Quash.
- 32:20Oh, and also Mr.
- 32:21Fish and the fish man at the— like, can you, can you cut those carrots more quietly?
- 32:28I love, I love how like the reviews are saying how like, um, Connor's lyrics are like the stupidest thing for his new album. Like they don't make any sense. But then when they're like big comeback happens, but like they finally get Lawrence back, they're like genius writer of the, like, of their like band. And he's like, this is still the most stupid thing you've ever heard.
- 32:48The dumbest things. But it reminded me of that, uh, Miracle song by Insane Clown Posse.
- 32:53Oh, it is. It's just like that. Yeah. Where they just like say a bunch of things. Right? Yeah, it's like, we don't know how any of this is, it must just be a miracle.
- 33:00Yeah.
- 33:01Yep. Because they said they found, they found his, uh, one of his diaries or something like that. Yeah. And it was just ideas that he wrote down while he was sitting around, straight from his diary.
- 33:11Yeah, yeah.
- 33:12They didn't put any thought into what it was about, they just were like, oh, let's run this idea out there.
- 33:16Yeah, we just like, let's just use all our ideas in one song. Yeah, yeah.
- 33:19And then get Michael Bolton to come on.
- 33:21Well, they did that song, a Jack Sparrow song with Michael Bolton. Yeah, but then they also wrote and directed the Michael Bolton's Big Sexy Valentine's special on—
- 33:33I forgot about that though—
- 33:34on, uh, Netflix as well.
- 33:35Mm-hmm.
- 33:37Is that any good? I don't know, I never saw it.
- 33:40I'm sure, I'm sure it's just—
- 33:41I'm sure it's Lonely Island ridiculous with Michael Bolton. Yeah, probably sexy Valentine stuff.
- 33:47Yeah, makes sense. That sounds about right.
- 33:50I don't know. This might be our shortest episode ever.
- 33:52I I don't know what else to say.
- 33:54There's not much else to talk about without rehashing the jokes or singing the songs, right?
- 33:59It's funny. I didn't laugh out loud that much, but it's kind of those movies I'm just like, hmm. You know, it was kind of like how you're talking about last week, where it's like, oh, that's pretty funny. You know, like in my head I was thinking about it, but like there were a couple points I did laugh. Like the yeah, Bin Laden song was pretty funny.
- 34:12Um, it's weird for a movie called Never Stop Never Stopping where We're stopping.
- 34:17We're stopping pretty quick. Oh my gosh, I mean, I have a whole lot of editing this week.
- 34:22Well, did they pick any locks? Do we know?
- 34:26There was nothing.
- 34:27They picked one.
- 34:29Was there a lockpick in this?
- 34:30They picked the lock to Eric's laugh box.
- 34:32What?
- 34:34Yeah, locked your laugh box.
- 34:37Oh my, you, you said Eric and I'm like, what the fuck?
- 34:39That's what I thought you said as well.
- 34:40I said Derek.
- 34:41Oh, it's not like Eric.
- 34:42Yeah.
- 34:42It's not really like—
- 34:43Playback, playback.
- 34:45Can't.
- 34:46Yeah, we're one take in the studio, man.
- 34:49Yeah.
- 34:49Dang it.
- 34:50I'm like, can I just say it again?
- 34:53Derek Slapbox. Derek Slapbox. You just can't say the D, that's all. Derek Slapbox.
- 35:00That's a good way to say my name too. Duh, Eric.
- 35:05I only do that when I'm annoyed.
- 35:05All right, boyos, did we do it? Did we get through Pop Star Never Stop Never Stopping?
- 35:15I'd hate to say it, but I just don't want to stop.
- 35:17But well, yeah, I think we have to. I don't know what else to fucking say. What'd you guys think?
- 35:23I I enjoyed it. I mean, it wasn't uh wasn't bad or anything like that. I think I enjoyed Dewey Cox more, but uh like I yeah, it was still good.
- 35:31Yeah, I liked it. Um, I like Andy Samberg quite a bit. Uh and I think the jokes in this are pretty funny. I Do you think the plot is not important? I think if the plot was a little stronger, I might like it a little bit more. But overall, I still like all the funny little segments and you know the jokes they have. This movie is basically just like they had just like had a bunch of crazy ideas they wanted to put into a movie. I feel like and they're all kind of like pop star themed, obviously. So it's like they just yeah, they just probably went in the writers' room like think of jokes about like if you were a pop star. And then like, okay, there you go. Like, and it turned out pretty good. I, I mean, I enjoyed it. So yeah, I agree.
- 36:10I think it did turn out rather well. I, I like this movie quite a bit. Like, do I love it? No. Will I watch it again? Probably not. But did I enjoy it? I sure hell did. So for as much as I watched Dewey Cox and I wanted to laugh harder and I knew all the jokes, this movie I laughed considerably. The, the Bin Laden song It is Bin Laden's song, wolf's attacking seal. Uh, those 2 moments right there are, are worth the price of admission for me right there. Uh, there are a few other jokes. Oh, the Hunter the Hungry, when he gets first introduced, that I was laughing a lot at that too. Uh, there's, there's a lot of good jokes in this. I like, I like the absurdity of it all. And unlike Dewey Cox's absurdity, which just beats you over the head with explaining its absurdity, this is just absurd for the sake of being absurd. Yeah, and which is a lot of the stuff I liked about the new Naked Gun movie. They're very similar in tone and delivery, and I like that. So that's just me.
- 37:12And I know he doesn't, he doesn't star in a lot of stuff as, as much, um, he did the Brooklyn Nine-Nine and all, but Andy Samberg, I don't think he ever does anything bad, uh, like movie-wise. Like, he's—
- 37:25he was in that one with Sandler, and I don't know what it— where he plays a son or something like that.
- 37:30Oh, grown-ups do.
- 37:31Yeah. No, um, crap, I forget what the name of it is. I can't think of what it's called. Yeah, you— yeah, but, but still, like, he's just, he's kind of, he's just kind of fun in pretty much anything he does.
- 37:42I agree.
- 37:44Yeah, he's on that, uh, this is probably like, it was during the pandemic, the Hulu original Palm Springs. Have you guys watched that?
- 37:51Oh, I've heard that's really good.
- 37:52I really liked it. I really liked it.
- 37:55Yeah, I've heard that's really good. I think my wife watched that and said it was good. And it's like, you need to watch that. I was like, okay. And I just never did. I think that's made by a Saturday Night Live guy. Is it not around anymore?
- 38:08And I said, it's never too late.
- 38:10Oh, I think it's too late. I was like, oh, Terry.
- 38:12Sorry. Yeah. No, I think, yeah, Derek, that's probably right up your alley.
- 38:15I'm sure it is. All right. Well, we know what we thought. What did the internet have to say?
- 38:22Yeah, that was good.
- 38:23June 2nd, 2016, Cole Waters had this to say. Not cold, but Cole, C-O-L-E. Pop Star Never Stopped Never Stopping. Oh God, then they do this. That's the title, first sentence. Pop Star Never Stopped Never Stopping was the funniest movie I ever saw in my whole life. Non-stop laughs. Andy Samberg was fantastic. The comedy was genius, on point, nothing better than it. The movie was flawless, superb, nothing like it ever made. It had some of the best cameos ever. Parents, this movie is rated R, so if you want to take your little ones, you may want to see it yourself because it does have a lot of profanity, but at the same time, it is super, super hilarious. The Lonely Island are legends, and after this movie, it will get them even bigger than they already are. The movie was a hit in my books. It is the top 15 movies that might save Hollywood, and I'm sure that Popstar will save it. You won't be sorry. 14 found it helpful, 40 not so much. 10 out of 10.
- 39:39When, uh, when was this review?
- 39:412016, June 2nd.
- 39:44Wow.
- 39:45The movie came out then on June 3rd, 2016. So this guy saw like the Thursday night, like show.
- 39:49He saw the midnight showing of it. Yep.
- 39:52The, and this is, and you know what? He was right. It saved cinema.
- 39:56And then he hustled over and immediately wrote a review.
- 39:59Saved Hollywood.
- 40:00Finally. We needed this. The hero we needed, not what we deserved.
- 40:04Yeah.
- 40:05Not to be outdone, 2 weeks later on June 16th, 2016, Avenues F had this to say. Andy Samberg made this? Andy Samberg is a funny guy. I've always enjoyed his Lonely Island videos on Saturday Night Live, and I like the fact that he gets outrageous and over the top. This movie is absolutely terrible, and I really looked forward to seeing it. It's not funny in the least. It's incredibly pedestrian and very, very dull. What was he thinking when he made this? The humor is like something out of a network sitcom, and the script is dated and totally predictable. It clearly had a huge budget. There are cameos from a lot of pop stars, and every single one of them is wasted. I think I laughed only one time in the film, and it was during a satire of TMZ.
- 41:00Okay.
- 41:01Don't waste your time or your money on this. 20 minutes into the film, I realized it wasn't going to go anywhere. And I found myself getting more and more impatient for it to be over. I think 20 minutes in is about when the Bin Laden song started. I finally gave up and walked out after an hour. Oh, something I rarely ever do.
- 41:24I somehow doubt that if he walked out for this. Come on.
- 41:2745 found it helpful, 98 not so much. 1 out of 10.
- 41:34If you're gonna walk out of this movie, you've Bound to be walking out a lot of their other movies too. Like, why would this be the one that broke? I don't know the record.
- 41:42I don't know. Oh, you know what?
- 41:43About an hour in, Wing Wang. He might have just walked after that.
- 41:47That could be it too. I like the other one was like, parents, make sure you see it first before you take your kiddos. Like what? Who is?
- 41:57Don't take your kids to this.
- 41:58I mean, it's rated R. Don't take your kids to rated R movies.
- 42:01They're not. They're not ready for it. Very simple. It's for adults. It's a very, uh, adult film, you know. Yes. Just don't— you know what, one time— have you guys seen Midsommar?
- 42:11Yes.
- 42:12I went and saw it in theaters. A whole family came in with like 8 kids, like, no, the age of 12 and under.
- 42:19No, that's one of those A24 horror films, isn't it? Yes, yes, very intense movie.
- 42:25Yes. And I was sitting there like just thinking the whole time like, these kids should not be here, these kids should not be here. It was so distracting. They didn't burn like loud or anything, but I was just like, these kids, why did you do this? Like, I was— my whole time I'm watching this like, oh my God, these kids shouldn't see that. Oh my God, the kids shouldn't hear that. You know what I mean? So distracted. I could not believe they brought their kids into that.
- 42:45Midsommar is one of those— it's the guy that did Hereditary. Yeah, Midsommar, Beau Is Afraid, and whatever the new one is. I can't think. It's like, like Intensity ramped up to like 300 for like— the movie starts with the most— oh God, like those kids are scarred from seeing that movie.
- 43:05Yeah, I'm like, it's like one of the most like serious, dark—
- 43:08I'm scarred from that opening.
- 43:10And, and if you— the opening, you just— you're like, I had to take— I wanted to really see this movie, so I had to take the kids. I didn't— couldn't find a sitter or something like that. Uh, I know the price of tickets. You've just spent a lot of money on—
- 43:21Yeah, you might as well just leave them. Yeah.
- 43:23Have you seen Midsommar, Keith?
- 43:25I have not.
- 43:28Holy shit.
- 43:28Probably, probably not going to either.
- 43:30Well, interesting.
- 43:32I'd have a spooky season coming up. Who knows? Yeah, because that— holy shit. Like, I'm imagining 12-year-old and younger watching.
- 43:43Probably like 8. There's probably like an 8-year-old there.
- 43:45The premise for her depression and anxiety for wanting to leave the country and for being a burden on her boyfriend. Yeah, that whole— oh God. Yeah, I'm very dark. Sad for those kids. I'm sad for those kids.
- 44:00Yep. I mean, I was like, that was all I could think about the whole time. You saw Hereditary?
- 44:05Imagine the light pole scene is the beginning of the movie. Oh, like that level of intensity is the middle of the movie or the beginning of the movie, and that's what kicks it off.
- 44:20Yeah.
- 44:21Oh shit.
- 44:22And then there's a scene at the end that's like, yeah. Ooh. Oh my God.
- 44:25It's like bookend light pole scenes. Oh yeah. Hee.
- 44:32So that was fun to watch.
- 44:33I want to watch that movie again now after talking about that a little bit about it.
- 44:37Yeah, it is good. It is good. Uh huh. I like it.
- 44:42Well, guess what's on the list now? Because we gotta pick movies for the wheel. All right, so it's that time of the month.
- 44:51Oh, is it?
- 44:53I don't know if I want to phrase it that way. No, it's our time of the month. It's that time of month for us where we choose a movie from the wheel. Now we got this extensive list that I've collated, which is another funny scene in this movie where he throws a little paper. I don't have to collate those. Have fun co-leading. Co-leading is never fun. All right, Tim Meadows is amazing. I love that guy. Anyway, I've put together this list of movies that have been mentioned, and we've each chosen one. Uh, Terry, you chose Sniper. Sniper, which was mentioned from Tom Barringer. And then Keith, you chose Major Payne, which was mentioned as a joke, I believe.
- 45:38Passing, I do believe.
- 45:40Yes.
- 45:40Yeah, I think it was mentioned during a time I didn't think we were recording yet, but I feel like it's on there.
- 45:47I might have to do the work to edit it in. It might be just like a major pain stuck in the middle of an episode.
- 45:53Oh, just like while we're doing the deep dive, it's like, in this and this major pain.
- 45:56This is done in a totally different voice that doesn't exist. I might do that just for fun. Ah, and then I chose Slither from James Gunn. Okay, we put those on the wheel and I put a spin again and I doubled them up. And now we all have a 1 in 4 opportunity of our movie getting picked on the spin, but ultimately it's 1 in 3 because there's only 3 of us.
- 46:22It's time to see if Keith's, uh, gonna follow Art's suit, you know.
- 46:27Will Keith's streak continue to 2, or will a new streak start for me?
- 46:31Or me.
- 46:33All right, can you guys see the wheel?
- 46:38Um, yes.
- 46:41Away we go. Oh my God! Oh my God!
- 46:52Oh, you! Wow, that was on the line.
- 46:58I feel like by the smallest of pixels, Slither is chosen. Like it's that's like three pixels where it was major pain and then it wasn't anymore. It's Slither. Wow.
- 47:09Good thing that little arrow lights up when it hits something.
- 47:13I know, because otherwise you might call for instant replay or something like that. Yeah, we need a ref to come on, get under the hood and take a look and see what's going on there. Yeah, it was close.
- 47:24Wow, I thought we're gonna have to watch Major Payne. I got kind of scared.
- 47:27I thought so too, and I was like, goddamn it.
- 47:31Although I do want to see it at some point.
- 47:33You know what, I— you know what, I was also— I also was like, oh man, we're gonna have to watch Major Payne.
- 47:38Shit. I feel like we've talked about it so much that I, like, I kind of need to know what it's about.
- 47:42No, you don't. You just need to know that it exists and there's a poster for it somewhere that was on Keith's bedroom or something. Yeah.
- 47:52Yeah. I don't know why.
- 47:52It's still on his bedroom wall to this day. It's all dog-eared on the corners. It's just like— Well, it's been well used.
- 47:59Well used.
- 48:00I— there was—
- 48:02Well used?
- 48:02There was a time in, um, yeah, I don't like that term. Uh, there was a time in behind it. College. There was a time in college I did have a lot of movie posters up. I had Swingers, I had Clerks, uh, True Romance, Major Pain, uh, made— I think, yeah, I guess Major Pain, The Great White Hype I think I also had.
- 48:21Oh geez.
- 48:22Um, I— but I had all these, um, I had— and I don't know what happened to them. I lost them at some point.
- 48:28Oh, they're gone?
- 48:28Yeah, yeah, right along with my Wu-Tang Clan poster and some other cool stuff.
- 48:34Well, you know what we need to do is for each film we cover on the show, we need to order Keith a poster.
- 48:38Keith can order his own poster for every movie. That's right.
- 48:42Okay, Derek's been getting the DVDs, I'll get the posters.
- 48:44Yeah, I'll just collect the memories.
- 48:47Slither, the Derek streak is back! He's back.
- 48:53I wonder how long it'll last. I'm jealous because now that we're not tied anymore, I want to—
- 48:56No, I am the true champion of the wheel. And it can't be a— it can't be like a 3-way tie at the end of the year either.
- 49:03No, there's no way it's gonna be a 3-way tie now unless we start giving bonus points out.
- 49:08Ooh, that's a good thought.
- 49:10Like, great suggestion point for Terry.
- 49:14So, so automatically Terry makes himself winning.
- 49:19Oh no, because we take some away for the whole 2B original.
- 49:22Oh, I get deducted points for that.
- 49:26No, no, I would have never— I would have never seen— oh God, after seeing Michael Rooker pop up in, uh, Peacemaker and like, see, I knew he could act.
- 49:34Yeah, he's actually good in things. Weird.
- 49:37Yeah, yeah, I knew he could. We'll find out next week too.
- 49:42He's in the movie.
- 49:42All right, we did it. We got through Popstar Never Stop Never Stopping. We got through the initial 3 weeks of the month. We spun the wheel and we're watching Slither, my choice. That's right.
- 49:54Congratulations.
- 49:56Congratulations to me for being amazing once again. And then I guess that leaves us with nothing to do but to end this the way we end everything.
- 50:06Everything.
- 50:19Wanna take her home, make her my wife. Knew she was a freak when she started talking. She said fuck me like we fucked Bin Laden. Whoa, that girl was a freak. She said she want me to fuck her harder than the military. Fucked Bin Laden. Fucked Bin Laden.
- 50:39Thanks for listening to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions? Email us at fumblingthroughfilm@gmail.com. Follow us on Bluesky at Film Fumblers and on Instagram at film.fumblers. You can also follow Keith on Instagram at kg33lives and dadscardsdaily. Terry's on Letterboxd at Terry2099, and Derek's on social media at Derek the number 9 and the word 9. All original music is produced by the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry. Hit him up for the bangers. See you next week as we— Keep it going. Keep on fumbling!