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How to Get Leads Without Social Media (For Solopreneurs Who Hate Posting) · The Life-First Solopreneur

• 0:00
  Carly Ries: If you've ever felt guilty for not posting every day, avoiding the newest TikTok trend, or just flat out dreading the idea of building a social media presence, well then listen up. The truth is you don't have to become a full time content creator just to run a successful business. There are real human ways to generate leads and grow your client base that have nothing to do with chasing an algorithm or going viral. We're talking relationships, referrals, and borrowing from other people's audiences. Basically, strategies that actually feel good to execute.
• 0:30
  If social media isn't your thing, stick around. You are not alone and you are not behind. You're listening to The Aspiring Solopreneur, the podcast for anyone on the solo business journey, whether you're just toying with the idea, taking your first bold step, or have been running your own show for years and want to keep growing, refining, and thriving. I'm Carly Ries, and along with my cohost, Joe Rando, we're your guides through the crazy but awesome world of being a company of one. As part of LifeStarr, a digital hub dedicated to all things solopreneurship, we help people design businesses that align with their life's ambitions so they can work to live, not live to work.
• 1:09
  If you're looking for a get rich quick scheme, this is not the place for you. But if you want real world insights from industry experts, lessons from the successes and stumbles of fellow solopreneurs, and practical strategies for building and sustaining a business you love, you're in the right spot. Because flying solo in business doesn't mean you're alone. No matter where you are in your journey, we've got your back.
• 1:33
  So a few weeks ago, we had a gal on this show, and she talked about how to make money online without having an audience. And the conversation was a lot about, like, TikTok shop and doing UGC content, making money that way, user generated content, and getting paid to do that. The thing that really stuck with me is that you can be successful without having an audience on social media. And it resonated because I'm a millennial. We've talked about this before.
• 2:02
  I'm a millennial. I should be on the social media train. I'm in marketing. It's another reason I should be on the social media train. And Joe, I just hate social media.
• 2:12
  I am not a fan. We've really increased our social media presence over the past couple of months. And it has taken a lot more mental energy than it should for a millennial at least. so I just want people to know, you're not alone if you are running your own business and you don't wanna jump on the social media train. I get it.
• 2:36
  I am right there with you. while I think it is important in certain areas, again, we are dialing in our social media strategy, and we're really moving forward with it. I do think people need to know that it's possible to grow a business without being the next social media sensation.
• 2:54
  Joe Rando: And I am so relieved to learn that I don't have to get, like, selfies next to a buffalo or take a picture of me at the edge of a big giant cliff and all these things that people are doing on social media to get attention. So Yeah. I'm comforted.
• 3:12
  Carly Ries: Yeah. Well, I feel like a lot of people leaving corporate to go out on their own, They're being told from all different directions that you need to become a full time content creator. Like your business can't just be a business, it has to be a media business on top of your business. You have to post every day.
• 3:30
  You have to do the newest TikTok dance. You have to fight the algorithm and whatever. But if you're like us and you hate social media, there are ways to do lead gen. And I think the easiest ways to do that are through relationships and, real relationships and human connection, which that is my love language.
• 3:52
  Joe Rando: Can I just clarify something? Because you said something about content creator. I think we should distinguish between somebody that's creating valuable content and maybe in the context of a blog post or a podcast. And we love doing both of those, right? And then the distinction of then becoming the person that promotes all that material on social media as opposed to maybe some other way, like you're talking about here, Carly.
• 4:20
  Carly Ries: Mhmm. Yes.
• 4:21
  Joe Rando: You know, that you can promote that material through direct connection and networking.
• 4:26
  Carly Ries: Yes. So on that note, where I think social media is still great is when you can build those relationships in existing ecosystems on social media. I think when people think of social media, they think that they have to go post something that will generate likes and comments and all kinds of engagement.
• 4:42
  Joe Rando: Go viral.
• 4:43
  Carly Ries: Go viral. But in reality, if you don't wanna do that, you can find professional associations, local networking groups, mastermind groups, all kinds of things where instead of posting, you're engaged and you're connecting with people within these groups on social media. So I do like social media for that. But your goal for that wouldn't be like broadcasting. It's being a smart, helpful person in that room, whether it's for your audience or with your peers who are in the same industry as you or the same profession as you sharing ideas with each other.
• 5:17
  We have a community at LifeStarr. Shameless plug, link in the show notes. But I think that's where you can really gain a lot of traction on social media, by just being helpful in those groups. What do you think?
• 5:30
  Joe Rando: Definitely. Yeah. you know, I find that social media, there are various components, right? It's not just posting, like you say, it's commenting. There's also direct messaging.
• 5:42
  I mean, one of the things that I do is I use LinkedIn and I use LinkedIn Sales Navigator and I use it to identify solopreneurs that look cool. Identify solopreneurs that look like they have, cool businesses. They're e active on LinkedIn and I reach out to them and I ask them to connect and I invite them to one of our free events or I invite them to join our free community depending on the situation. And I've built up a great, first of all, email list, but also just relationships on LinkedIn. And I get to see their stuff because they're solopreneurs too. so there's really not social media. It's not going out there going, hey, look at me. It's like a direct outreach to say, hey, you know, I don't go in there and say, hey. Connect with me. I wanna sell you stuff.
• 6:31
  That's low class. But I connect and you know, we add value. We talk. Sometimes I set up a meeting. I have a Calendly link. I set up a call with them.
• 6:39
  We kinda get to know each other. And you know, it's work, but it's real. It's real, and it feels real.
• 6:47
  Carly Ries: Correct. So I know listeners are probably like, Carly, this episode is like, what do we do if we don't like social media? So if you really don't wanna do anything with social media, people forget about their existing networks as their first pipeline for lead generation. Whether it be coworkers, old vendors you've worked with, past clients, friends and family, which I know you don't wanna be that pushy person with friends and family, but you don't have to sell to them. You just have to reach out and let them know what you're doing.
• 7:15
  I have told you this story a few times, but about a decade ago, I overheard my parents saying that I was a creative director for an ad agency. Neither of which were true. but I realized I hadn't educated them on what I was doing. So they couldn't properly refer me to other people because they didn't know what I was doing. So a simple check-in message of like, hey, I recently started my own business and I'm reconnecting with people I respect in this industry.
• 7:42
  Just want to reach out and let you know. If you know of anybody who needs my help, just let me know. I'd love the introduction. So you're not selling to that person. You're just like, hey, FYI.
• 7:53
  And I was validated by this idea the other day because I don't know if I told you this, but I've been going, deep in the weeds on Alex Hermozi YouTube videos. Educational content. And that was one of his, I'm not gonna say number one. But it was one of his big recommendations was, no. He was like, I grow my business by telling people what's going on, not selling to them, but having them help me generate leads and all of that.
• 8:18
  And so I was like, well if Alex Hermozi and I have the same brain with this, then it might work. Not might work. It does work. So that's a big way to get referrals lead gen if you don't wanna do social media. In addition to reading out reaching out to your preexisting contacts, your network, everything, another way to get leads when you're not on social media is to kind of like borrow from another person's audience.
• 8:42
  So whether you're guesting on a podcast or being a guest speaker on a webinar that people have you on or you're writing guest articles for big publications or doing PR. Those are other ways you can build trust and get attention without social media. Granted, you can amplify that by promoting it on social media, but it is a way to tap into other people's audiences when you don't want to promote it yourself on your social channels. It's a great way to, yeah, expand upon your past your current audience.
• 9:16
  Joe Rando: Cool.
• 9:16
  Carly Ries: Yeah. And then lastly, it's funny because we've done polls recently. We've asked our audience as Solopreneurs, what is your number one way to get leads? And of course, word-of-mouth and referrals are the number one thing. Because wouldn't it be lovely if just our businesses could only run on referrals?
• 9:37
  We, George B Thomas and I, who's a guy we work with, we recommended a book, The Referral Engine, which John Jantz wrote. It's dated. Not dated. It was published a while ago, but the information in it is still very relevant. So don't let the date fool you.
• 9:53
  It's still very relevant.
• 9:55
  Joe Rando: Humans are humans, basically.
• 9:57
  Carly Ries: Yes, exactly. But if you can put in a thoughtful referral system, and not just, oh, I hope I get referrals based off of wishing and throwing a penny in the fountain. But actually putting together a system where like if, the second you close on a project or something, reach out and make the ask like, hey, if you know anyone else dealing with this issue, I'd be happy to help them too. I'll give you 20% off of the next service I do with you, or something like that. But put together a proper referral system, and don't just wing it, and that can help you generate leads from word-of-mouth in those referrals. I think those are my biggest things if you don't wanna use social media to expand your voice.
• 10:44
  Joe Rando: Cool. Well, sounds good to me.
• 10:47
  Carly Ries: Perfect. So yep, moral of the story, relationships, reputation, referrals. Has somebody already coined the three r's? Because if not, let's do that.
• 10:55
  Joe Rando: Let's do that. Copyright. Trademark.
• 10:58
  Carly Ries: Anything human connection and trust. Everything you do should go back to human connection and trust. And that's all we got for today. Speaking of trust, one of the ways that people really trust us is if they see that we have a highly rated and reviewed podcast, which we do. We love those five star reviews, we so appreciate it.
• 11:17
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• 11:41
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