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T-Wolves roll again, Tatum injured, College Football Talk with Pete Fiutak · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, Good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon on
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a Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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It's Trent Condon and Ken Miller with you for the next two hours
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to talk sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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afternoon here with us. Wherever you're listening in the
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state of Iowa or anywhere on the I Heart app, we're glad that
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you're here. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. Our first guest is Pete Futek.
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I don't know how he finds enough hours in the day to do what he
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does over at College Football News.
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He is the chief cook and bottle washer at that site and it is
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always up to date. There's previews every single
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day, found time to take a look back at all 32 teams in the NFL
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and what he thought of their draft.
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So if you're a football fan, college football news, yes, it's
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more than college football, but it is a phenomenal resource and
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Pete will here be here with us at the bottom of the hour and
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look forward to catching up with him.
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Matt Poston's writes about the Big 12 at Heartland College
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Sports. Matt Poston's will join us to
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kick off our number 2. Take an early look at some Big
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12 football. Sprinkle in some basketball
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stuff with Poston's as well, and then Nick Nelson on the
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Minnesota Twins and the run that they are on, which is pretty
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darn good as of late. They've won eight in a row.
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But you know what? It's not quite good enough to
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have the best, longest winning streak currently.
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Those Cardinals won again. What's going on?
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Stepped up against the Phillies, got it done.
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A little iffy there at the end. Was able to see the final out.
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I was sitting next to one of assistant coaches, our daughters
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on the same rec team. He's a Cardinals fan and he was
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watching the gamecast. I'm like, well, here, let's pop
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it on right here. So we saw the final out together
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last night out at the ballpark. He's excited, I'll tell you
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that, and should be and Cardinals fans.
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So I asked him, 'cause he obviously he's following a lot
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closer than me. And I said, you know, we talked
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about him on the show yesterday. Had Brian Walton last week.
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Is there anything you can point to?
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Because no. Well, we thought it was the
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schedule and the water was going to get deeper.
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Now again, it's it's one game, right?
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But they beat the Phillies last night and good for them keep it
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going. I mean, I think it's great if it
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if it's Cubs, Cards and we looked ahead yesterday.
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The final series of the regular season just happens to match up
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those two teams at. Wrigley Field So Libertar Good
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again last night, is he? He's still only 25.
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Feels like he's been part of our life for a little longer.
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Maybe he it's just starting to click with him.
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He was a big prospect. Bar Speaking of that, we're
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going to finish a point. Well, that's just one of the
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many things that you kind of look at is things starting to
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settle in. You go for a liberator's a guy.
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That's what he was. Well, he's still only 25.
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He was a big upset guy when he came up at 22.
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And now suddenly maybe this is a guy that can be, you know, a top
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two guy in your rotation on a good playoff team.
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Those are the kind of things though that do have to start to
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happen in order to we know what they have on the back end of the
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bullpen. That's a leap.
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OK, there's a leap spot right there.
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Bullpen. The young names have been really
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good this year. If that continues a leap,
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bullpen, veteran pitching Liberator taking a step and just
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an off offense. And Cardinal fans are going to
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fill the ballpark once we get to the, you know, to the end of May
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here coming up in a couple of weeks.
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I think they're going to be. Different than what we talked
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about on the twin side of things because they've been a little
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bit starved for it, though. There's frustrations obviously
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in that fan base too, in the way that they spent recently, in the
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way that they've been constructed.
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I think that they're more willing to jump back on the
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bandwagon pretty big. I mean, how many people down
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there in Missouri, how many people across that huge
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footprint that they have? That's the summer plan.
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Yeah, it is for sure. And you know what, we weren't
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going to go this year, but they're playing pretty well.
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Let's get that weekend trip again.
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You know, you're probably right. Let's hop in the Dodge Caravan
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to make our way there. Take the Plymouth, yes, and and
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make that 345 hour drive. That's, I think, a sneaky thing
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that people forget. The touch in Plymouth.
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KMKMOX used to come all the way up.
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It was it. All the way.
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So my buddy Sean, he would sit in his driveway shooting hoops.
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Listening to it in baseball. He's a huge Cardinal fan, The
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biggest Cardinal fan. I know he would sit there and do
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that in Osage. It's a long ways to Saint Louis
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the Osage and he did that that thing, but you think about.
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Boomed. All that area of the South that
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weren't Cubs fans, that didn't have the Twins, that huge area
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of Missouri and down to. Our baseball on the radio was a
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thing, like, I mean like a major thing.
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And you couple it with the organization, what they've had,
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that organization, what they were, the Braves were terrible.
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Yes, kids. I know it's hard to believe, but
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the Braves for a long time were a awful, inept organization.
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As early as the early 90s. Absolutely.
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The year before 91, they were last place and then jumped up
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and it was the last, the last of first World Series with both of
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those teams. So all those people in the South
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Series, my God, so many of those people in the South, what were
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they, Cardle? Fans.
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Cardle, it's a huge fan base. Yeah, it is.
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And I think they're going to be willing to jump back on if this
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is more than just a blip on the radar, this 10 game win streak,
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there's more to it. Hope there is hope they can stay
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with them. I, I do.
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Let's let's talk about the Cubs. Moises Valley Staros has been
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called up. What, what's the end game with
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him? Are they calling up to showcase
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him to potentially include him in a trade because he's what
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he's a designated? Hitter.
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That's it. He's never going to catch in the
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big leagues. 1,000,000 People who follow the game, who told me
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that, who are people who would know not fans, people that, you
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know, work in baseball have told me there's it's just not good
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enough to catch in the Major League.
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Now I guess I should put this out there.
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He's only what, 2122? Yes, he's incredibly young.
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He's. Really young AAA, right?
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So I wonder if this is a call up just to give them a taste of the
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major leagues and potentially when the Cubs need to enhance
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their trade package because they're going to need a pitcher
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at some point if they stay on top of the division.
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Maybe by esteros is a name that could, you know, interest some
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other teams. I believe that the batting
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skills are too immense to do that, that that is what you're
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looking at. I think you're looking at more
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because everybody also knows that he's not a catcher.
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Is he, is he Luisa rise or maybe better because he has more
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power? Where was a rise at that age?
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Do you remember? I don't as far as power.
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A power? No, it was never there with.
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A never OK. You know, a guy that I think
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would be a good comp and position doesn't make a whole
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lot of sense, but because of the short stature, Jose Altuve.
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Jose Altuve down other side of the plate.
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But Altuve. People forget how much pop that
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guy had. Yeah, he does because but he can
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run though I'm not sure, I don't think by esteros.
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He could not, he could not, but I'm talking more of the contact
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skills and when you're you're just talking about the hitting
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skills part of it by esteros doesn't walk.
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He just hits everything. That's very much like a rise.
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But the pop I think is more pronounced and that's what L
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Tuve also developed into. To be fair, we're talking 2627
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year old L Tuve. That's kind of the comp that I
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see just as a hitter. That's it.
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Not as a runner, not as a physical specimen.
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That's what I see. Just flip it opposite sides of
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the plate with him. I think that he is too valuable
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even as only ADH. But when you win, when you have
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veteran guys on your team and guys that you want in your
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lineup, but they just can't. They're in their late 30s.
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You got them for a couple more years.
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You had a sign of that long contract to keep them.
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Their their their skills in the field aren't what they once
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were, but you still got to pay him.
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So he's you just wonder, you know, it's would you play, play
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a veteran because he's so young, He's so young. 21 years old.
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Do you see what he's listed at? What's he listed at?
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5/8. 2:30. He's listed here.
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I'm looking at his minor League Baseball page at 195.
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Come on. If if he's 195, yeah I'm 170
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then Slim Moises. And I'm 63.
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He's at 195 full. Head of hair and it's not great.
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He is at 195. I like where you're thinking,
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though, the potential and a very well there might be a team that
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looks at him and says, look, we need this hitter.
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We need this kind of pop in the lineup.
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We need this kind of batting skill because he is going to be,
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I believe, an elite hitter. Kyle Schwarber is the comp that
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people use, but Schwarber is more a power hitter, power free
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swing. It's just, I think it's just
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because they're both catchers that aren't catchers.
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I think that's why the but the comps are not really close when
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it comes to those two. Yeah, I think by Esteros is more
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of a station to station hitter than than Schwarber is.
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Yes, I mean of of that 2016 core, right, that's scattered
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all around the country. Drew chimed in with this one.
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Schwarber the best of the bunch? With chunky catchers.
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Yeah, Alejandro Kirk. Alejandro Kirk for you and
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Astudio for me. Yeah, there's another one that's
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good, both of them. But neither of those guys.
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No, no. Well, Kirk, he's OK.
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He's a, he's a good solid. Yeah, yeah.
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Better than astudio who I? Think so.
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Yeah, a flash of the pan, which was incredibly fun.
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Yeah, it was. So I started to say just it just
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dawned on me when you were talking about, I don't know what
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you're talking about age. And I was watching ESPN last
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night and you know who donned it means for the first time that by
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God, this guy's getting old. And he's not old.
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He's 47. So Brian Windhorse has been on
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our TV for over 20 freaking years.
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Yes, absolutely. He covered LeBron, right?
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This is not where he got his start in high school.
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Yes, they went to the same high. School where they did, yes.
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Grew up in Akron, whatever it was.
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And when LeBron was in high school and then forcing him to
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cover up his tattoos when he played on ESPN 2, you remember
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that it was Brian Windhorse. And I mean, I don't watch a lot
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of private, but I just watched the TV last night.
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Oh my God, this guy's old. Well, he's 47 now.
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And he's been on TV for how many years?
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So LeBron was what, 2000? Early 2000s.
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So he worked for the Akron newspaper when LeBron was in
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high school? Because he does have him by 7
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years. So he was out of college,
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graduated from Kent State, did go to the same high school
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before. They weren't classic connection
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though. Yep, and that's where the
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connection started. But, and I really enjoy
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Windhorse. Yeah, he's good.
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I mean, you look back to last year, Luca in the finals with
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The Mavericks and what he was saying, yeah, he is so informed.
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But he also does it in a way that is, I think, intriguing.
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Makes you think a little bit. He's really, really good.
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He's carved out one heck. Oh my, good for him.
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Absolutely. Well, since we're on the NBA
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before we get to the games themselves, I mean, come on,
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right? Come on, the lottery the.
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Tinfoil hat doesn't even need to come out for this one, no.
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No, I hope that they're mass produced because there's so many
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people wearing these things today on the right.
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It's it's draft after draft seemingly right when you can go
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back and you can find a major trade that always comes around
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to that team that gave up a significant piece is going to
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find a way to win the draft lottery.
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And here we go again. There are too many instances
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that you look at and say. Look at the Pelicans.
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Come on. Right, CP3.
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The Pelicans, first, you have the trade that was knocked out
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by, Stern said. No, you can't trade Chris Paul
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and the team is owned currently by the NBA and they get the
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number one draft pick. That one doesn't make a whole
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lot of sense and you just go year after year.
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There's so many of them. The Magic winning it
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back-to-back years. The first year when they got
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Shaq OK, of course the next year they had a 1.5% chance of
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winning it. They got Chris Webber was a
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trader for Penny Hardaway. There are those instances that
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pop up so many times throughout the time we go back obviously to
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the first lottery, the Rosen envelope of Patrick Ewing.
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At least that's the theory that is out there.
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The Knicks getting Patrick Ewing and that was the first ever
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lottery that they ever had and they did it by envelope in that
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one. Derrick Rose going to the
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Chicago, going back home now, they had that year a 1.7% chance
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of winning the lottery. What has happened?
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Of course they get Derrick Rose. You have the Cleveland Cavaliers
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multiple times happening, including after LeBron leaves.
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There they go. Here's Kyrie.
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Then they get they they got it three out of four years now.
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Anthony Bennett was the one that they got one of those years.
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What? A boss you and LV right?
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Yes, but then the year after that they got Wiggins, who was a
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piece for them, but it was also a piece that they eventually
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traded right away in order to get the right to.
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It just, it just stinks to high heaven, right?
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It stinks to high heaven, but good for Cooper Flag.
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Go and do your thing in Dallas and we'll see where it goes
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because we're not NBA heavy until April.
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So we're starting to see more and more leaks.
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I'll let you know what, let's finish with the NBA before we
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get into the NFL. Obviously the Tatum news from
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last night is the story. I think he was having one of
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those Oh my God games, right? It seemingly was on the cusp of
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one of these games. That's going to be talked about
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for a long, long time. Would they have sealed the deal?
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Obviously a better chance to do so if he was able to complete
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the game, which we know he didn't.
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But the Knicks got to give him credit and you got to give
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Brunson a ton of credit for the way he played, in particular in
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that third quarter. Trenton, I'm not sure he missed
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a shot in the third quarter. Didn't feel like it.
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The shot making that we saw certainly during the second-half
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of that game and down the stretch before the Tatum injury
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to just the back and forth, Celtics would hit a bucket and
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then the response every single time that stretch from about
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what, maybe the seven minute mark until about the three
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minute mark, it was about as high level of basketball.
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So you're gonna find and it's not.
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There's hitting open threes. It was shot making.
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It was off the bounce. It was incredible plays great
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off the dribble and finding that open guy.
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It was beautiful basketball. And then in an instant like
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that. Just boom.
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That sinking feeling that you get.
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We watch sports. When you see that and then they
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go to the replay, you see no contact.
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It was a change of direction, the grab of the Achilles right
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away, that's what. It looked to be like most
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people, I think. Well, there's nothing official
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yet, correct? Right, the MRI will be done, but
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even if it's not in Achilles. She's she's not coming back this
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series. No, down 31.
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The Knicks are going to get it done.
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We got the Pacers on the other side and the Timberwolves do it
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again. How?
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Good would Knicks, Timberwolves be when you factor in the trade
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and the back and forth if that's indeed what we get.
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That would be tremendous. I think the NBA would be happy
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with that. They're rising star and they're.
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Gonna get those if they get the Knicks.
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Yes, and the Knicks there for the first time in a long time, a
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organization that has a won a championship in over 50 years.
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Unbelievable. The New York Knickerbock.
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What 72 was it? 72 threat, 73 seasons somewhere,
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yeah. Early 70s.
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It's been well before I was around and I'm an old man.
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That's how long back we're going.
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So that's what they're hoping for.
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The Timberwolves last night just hanging around Golden State
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played as well as they basically could in the first half, and the
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three at the Buzzers ended in the locker room that.
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Cut it to what, 2? Cut it to two 6058 hollering as
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he's walking back of course, and he got going there in the second
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quarter and then that third quarter that is as good of a
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stretch of basketball. I've watched all of it that I've
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seen from a team, though. In this NBA playoffs, that third
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quarter was absolutely. Scored by 20, right?
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Yeah, 20 something I think. From a two point deficit.
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And it wasn't just that they were hitting shots.
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That was a big part of it, but it was also what they're doing
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on the other end. Yeah.
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Jimmy Butler looked lost. Yeah, he was obviously out of
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swords. They don't have a point guard
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out there. Golden State and they got to
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work. Guy were.
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Number something out the fourth quarter 'cause I was done at
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that point after. Three, it was on, but we were
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not exactly locked in. Yeah, it.
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Seemed like it was over. I'm with you.
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It seemed like it was over at that point.
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I think the series is over now. Are they off until Sunday or do
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they have another game? They do have another game.
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They have one they will play tomorrow night, Wednesday night
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back in Minnesota and. Then go to the West if
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necessary. Yes, because the Valkyries have
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the home. Floor.
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Is it necessary? It's Minnesota sports,
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everything that my eyes have seen say.
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Minnesota. That doesn't matter.
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We see plenty of heartbreak up there in the Land of 10,000
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Lakes. I would say basketball wise,
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yeah, it's over. They're a lot better.
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Stuff's not coming back for this game.
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Nope. And they're at home.
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Yep. They have Minnesota across their
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chest. Yep.
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And that tells me that thing is that.
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Hold your horses. It's also only the second round,
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so maybe they'll be fine on this one.
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But if you can dispatch the Lakers in five, even a decimated
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Warriors team in fine. Rest up a little bit and hope
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the Nuggets and the and OKC kick the living crap out of each
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other. Who's, Oh, go ahead, you know
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you're going to ask questions. So was I, I will say I think
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they played the, I think they played the Nuggets tough.
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Yes. And the thing about them is I
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don't think the Nuggets are very deep and I'm starting to see
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some fatigue on that team. And if they find a way to get
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past OKC, I think the Minnesota Timberwolves, the well rested T
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Wolves, Oh, you hate to say it, but it sure seems like they'd be
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destined to get out of the West. Doesn't.
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It and. I really again Minnesota sports.
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Yes, the match up against OKC, it's tough, but I think we've
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seen some cracks in the armor of this OKC team.
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The people that follow the NBA during the regular season been
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telling us how great they are. You look at any of the advanced
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numbers that this was a historically great team, but you
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look at, and I know it was a quick turn around coming into
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what we saw from them over the weekend.
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They're putrid offensively and when they need a big shot, what
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can they do? And you think of the matchup and
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chat inside going up against. 72 Rudy Gobert.
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Against Gobert in there and you look at some of the matchups and
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what they can do defensively with a couple of long, athletic
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wings going out there and guarding SGA, I like the match
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up. I know there'll be a dog in it
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and that's fine, but I like the match up.
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Would they be favored over the Nuggets I.
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Think. Slight small favorite.
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I think you're right. Nuggets would have homecourt
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because they're the four or four or five.
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They're the 4C. Yeah, they're better.
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C Yep. So they would have homecourt
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there, but I would guess it'd be T wolves -120 maybe even on the
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Nuggets, something like. That it was that series last
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year. Tremendous.
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Unbelievable. It really was all right.
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The NFL schedule seems like your Bears are playing on black Black
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Friday. Did you see that I.
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Did. And it's not just that they're
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Amazon's taken over Black Friday.
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At least trying to. So what are they doing?
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They have the game, that game, but they're also putting in with
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their new NBA rights, a double header.
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So they're so. We go up against college
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football and. There.
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Yep, here it comes. Did you see what the what
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college football did like within the last couple of weeks?
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You know, in the Egg Bowl is Black Friday.
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You know, in Texas, Texas A&M is Black Friday.
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And those were always Thanksgiving.
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They've moved to Black. Friday.
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Well, not always, but a lot. A lot.
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Of the Egg Bowl, I think well, no, not always a few of them
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there weren't, but a lot of times they're both.
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But they're Black Friday now. Add to that there was a, you
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know, if a significant percentage more games last year
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on Black Friday. Seemed like there were more
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college football games last Black Friday than the years
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previous. And we had that weird Big 12 one
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that we thought maybe was going to be.
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It was like Utah, UCF. Yeah, I think you're right.
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Was that? And it was like Fox announced
19:43
that that was going to be their Black Friday.
19:44
That's right. And it was too disappointed to
19:49
finish that. Utah was his best.
19:50
I mean, that was as disappointing as maybe Oklahoma
19:53
State. Yeah, right.
19:55
Both of us, absolutely. Both of those teams really bad
19:58
as far as the where they were supposed to be.
20:00
The Vikings are going to go back-to-back games across the
20:04
pond. That's a huge.
20:06
Edge for them, Trent. Is it a?
20:08
Huge edge and here's why. Those were both Rd. games in the
20:11
in the AFC North. So you don't have to go to
20:14
Pittsburgh, you don't have to go to Cleveland, you don't have to
20:16
come home from the UK. So the second of which?
20:19
Which ones first do you remember?
20:21
I don't. Offhand, I want to say the
20:23
Steelers. It is the Steelers.
20:24
It's the Steelers on Sunday the 28th, so they'll stay there and
20:28
play Cleveland the next week. So Cleveland's not going to be
20:31
there in advance. So they'll be their body clocks
20:34
will be adjusted. I think it's a huge benefit to
20:36
the Vikings. Every other team in that
20:39
division's got to play 9 road games, I want to say this year.
20:42
So I didn't realize that they were both going to be Rd. games
20:46
because when I saw it I just assumed.
20:49
No, they're both roadies. They're losing both a home game
20:52
and a road game, but so now you only have to play 7, seven games
20:56
on the road. Pittsburgh's always difficult.
20:59
Yeah, Cleveland. It depends on when you play
21:02
them, but not exactly a cup of tea.
21:05
No, the fans will still be engaged early October, one would
21:08
assume. Right.
21:09
And at that point, maybe it'll be the debut of Shadur, making
21:13
him. For Dylan Gabriel, who
21:15
apparently looked better than him this past weekend.
21:17
But we'll see, yeah. I thought that was definitely
21:20
eye opening though, that we have that one.
21:22
Your Broncos are going to be involved.
21:24
The next week. So is this more across the pond
21:28
games than we normally? Have yes.
21:29
OK. And there's one in Spain, for
21:31
crying out loud. I saw that one.
21:33
That's the is. It enough enough.
21:36
For the NFL, for the NFL, for the NFL, that it's never enough.
21:39
So they really want to make this global.
21:42
Yes, there there's a demand for this at the expense of a home
21:46
game in one of your NFL cities. Yes, there.
21:49
Well, there's not a demand for it.
21:50
You're looking to build that demand.
21:52
It's what the NBA did 30 years ago.
21:54
This is what you're trying to do.
21:55
You're trying to make your sport global because we got our 3
21:58
billion people here. That's basically what we are.
22:01
You want to make it for the other 10 billion people out
22:05
there. That's what you're trying to
22:06
reach, and it's growing. Germany, London, England.
22:11
Those communities are. Growing.
22:13
They come over here. Because that's not how you grow
22:16
the game. That's not how it happens.
22:18
You got to go to them in order for it to happen.
22:20
Don't like it, but it's the reality.
22:23
And it's football at 8:30 in the morning, so there's there is
22:25
that. Kick off the day.
22:27
Right, you get that quadruple header.
22:30
Now you get an 830, a noon, a 330 and a 725.
22:36
There's worse things than that, I guess.
22:38
Broncos, Jets, Jaguars, Rams, Colts, Falcons.
22:41
That's the November game and then finishing up in Madrid.
22:46
Dolphins Commanders. What's the worst game?
22:51
So the Chiefs Chargers game on in Brazil, has it been
22:57
announced? Because it says it needs to be
22:59
announced tomorrow. But all the Chiefs media that
23:02
I'm seeing is already got that like it's a done deal, really.
23:06
It sure seems like it's Chiefs Chargers on Friday night in
23:10
Brazil. What did we have last?
23:12
We had Eagles and Packers last year.
23:13
Excellent game, excellent game. And we had those questions about
23:16
got hurt, who was going to wear green because of some weird rule
23:18
down there. Not going to have to worry about
23:20
that with the Chargers or the Chiefs.
23:23
So it's going to be the. Chiefs side?
23:23
I think so. I think so.
23:25
I saw that Christmas night, Denver is in chief, Phil.
23:32
That's the Christmas night game. It's starting to trickle.
23:36
Does it seem closer now that the schedule is here, 'cause I get
23:40
crazy, you know, I do. When the when the draft gets
23:42
here, I think it's all downhill from here.
23:44
But I even think it ratchets up a little bit for me when I've
23:46
got the, the IT feels more, I don't know, tangible now that I
23:50
can. Yeah, we know it's they're
23:53
playing, but we don't know when or where.
23:56
It just feels OK. We're getting there.
23:59
We're getting. There, I got some numbers for
24:01
you from DraftKings for some prices.
24:03
Oh yeah, what do you got? Week 1 Cowboys at the Eagles.
24:06
Week 1 Cowboys at the Eagles. The Eagles are favored seven and
24:13
a. Half seven.
24:14
Dang it, Week 13 Eagles hosting my Bears.
24:18
Eagles hosting your. Black Friday. 7 1/2.
24:23
It's 7 week 17, your Denver Broncos make their way to Kansas
24:28
City. That's Christmas night.
24:29
Ken Miller is going to drive down to Kansas City.
24:31
He. Would never go to that.
24:32
You know what hole? And the Chiefs in the.
24:34
City's fine. The stadium.
24:36
Chiefs are favored by. The Chiefs are favored by Not a
24:40
touchdown. The odds maker realize that
24:45
Bonex is Denver's quarterback. Their favorite's 6 1/2.
24:49
It's. 4 1/2 You're not getting as many as you hoped.
24:51
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25:37
Pete Futech joins us next. College football conversation
25:40
with Futech. Look forward to that.
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26:07
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Trent Condon, Ken Miller as we take you until 2O clock, the
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Let's talk to our friend Pete futekcollegefootballnews.com.
26:20
He joins the program. Pete, I know I say it to you all
26:22
the time when you come on. I don't know how you find enough
26:24
hours in the day to do all the writing that you do.
26:27
I found time to recap the draft for all 32 teams in your spare
26:32
time. I guess.
26:33
Good to talk to you. Pete, how are you?
26:35
I'm doing fine. How you guys been?
26:37
Doing well Did you enjoy that look back at the NFL draft?
26:41
How much work was it I? Like it because I actually
26:44
prefer that the draft in that world.
26:47
Other things it's the other part of this thing too is the draft
26:51
is such a big pile of Hoo ha. I mean it is I I I know and love
26:57
many of these draft Knicks and draft guys.
26:59
They don't know what they're doing.
27:01
They're it's it's basically it's this simple when it comes to the
27:04
draft and no one likes good. If you have to really screw up
27:08
in the first round, you can't get a Patrick Mahomes, you can't
27:11
get a DJ Watt. It's a dumb block.
27:14
All you can ask for is get a guy who can start for you at a
27:17
reasonable level for three years.
27:19
If you draft that guy, you've hit your draft pick.
27:22
And to do that, it's impossible to miss in the first round.
27:25
It's hard to miss in the 2nd. And after that, just trade your
27:29
picks because none of them work the numbers.
27:31
Just you After the third round, you if you take out kickers and
27:35
punch who are the best value guys get about a 10% shot of
27:39
finding a an actual live starter after the third round.
27:43
So whenever you say, oh, they traded away their 4th, 5th and
27:45
6th round draft picks, all right, fine.
27:47
Maybe you got a guy who's going to play for it.
27:50
Pete Right now, the big conversation is obviously what's
27:54
going to happen after this year and the change in the structure
27:56
of the College Football Playoff. Ross Dellinger had some
27:59
reporting on it. Pete Family, couple other
28:01
places. I don't want to say it's
28:02
imminent, but it feels like we're getting close to it's
28:04
going to be 16 teams. My question is this before we
28:07
get maybe get into some nuts and bolts of it is those conference
28:11
championship games, there's no buy involved anymore.
28:14
So why even play them? What what is the purpose outside
28:18
of obviously seating? What is the purpose knowing that
28:20
everybody's going to be playing in that first round?
28:22
Why even play the conference championship games?
28:25
Yeah, that's going to be a struggle.
28:27
And maybe it is proceeding. Maybe it does mean that you've
28:30
been. And, you know, if you still have
28:32
to maybe fight your way in because maybe if you're a Big 12
28:36
team, you're 9:00 and 3:00 and you're not guaranteed in if you
28:42
don't win it, you know, so for some of these teams, it's going
28:45
to be necessary. The flip side of that, the
28:48
Carson Beck situation where you know, you just played this FCC
28:52
championship and you know, you won the battle the lost the war
28:54
because you knocked out your starting quarterback for the
28:57
College Football Playoffs. So it's it's going to lessen it,
29:01
hopefully. I have never been a fan of the
29:03
gimmicky conference championship.
29:05
I would rather, you know, it's football.
29:08
It's not, you know, even though all the guys are getting hurt in
29:10
basketball now, you just, you don't want that many games for
29:14
these guys. It's just too much.
29:18
But yeah, it is inevitable. But first of all, just in a
29:21
sheer math, think of it this way.
29:23
Even at 16, the percentage of teams that get in the playoffs
29:28
is far less than any other sport.
29:30
I mean, remember, like playing games are playoff games.
29:33
So 60% of all NBA teams make it, you know, 50% of baseball.
29:38
You have to really screw up to not make the NHL playoffs.
29:42
NFL is what, like 3840%? And they get in the NTA
29:47
tournament. If you're talking 20 something
29:49
percent, you're still talking a relatively low percentage of
29:53
teams that are going to get in. I thought 12 is fine.
29:57
I just think that needed to be tweaked.
29:59
But 16 will be will be OK. Anything more than that gets
30:03
really sort of gimmicky. And if I could have one more
30:06
thing when they do go to 16, I hope that those additional games
30:09
are played on campus beat, you know, whether it be early or not
30:12
and probably would be, but preferably those games.
30:15
I mean, the Notre game, game in the snow on against Indiana kind
30:18
of on that Friday night, I mean, I just felt like I was watching
30:21
something impactful when it comes to the sport.
30:25
I'm of two minds on this. I I'm 1000% against neutral site
30:30
games. I am a put keep the college and
30:34
college football, keep it on campuses.
30:36
Let the students come close. You know, be able to see it.
30:39
That's the home field advantage. The flip side of that is I, I
30:44
kind of coming around to the idea of you've played all year
30:47
long and in your playoffs, you're in this goes to the NFL
30:50
to you're playing in the playoffs and it's 50 below in,
30:54
you know, you can't run or it's snowy or so I, I kind of think
30:57
that that kind of lessens the playoffs to a certain extent,
31:01
but I get it. I am I'm with you.
31:04
I think the first round you played on college campuses just
31:07
because you kind of have to, by the way.
31:10
But the rule has been from the College Football playoffs that
31:13
the team that gives the home team actually gets a choice.
31:18
So like let's say for some, you know, God forsaken reason, you
31:21
know, Indiana makes the College Football playoffs.
31:25
They decide to play in the Dome in Indianapolis.
31:27
You know, they could do that. That's where this would get bad.
31:30
I would. But I'm with you.
31:31
I think keep it on the campuses. That is a big part of it, the
31:36
thought process. The four teams in the SEC, the
31:39
four in the Big 10, they have a stranglehold on this sport right
31:43
now and they also have the ability to do it.
31:46
I think on the surface, all of us as sports fans don't exactly
31:48
like it. But then you think of those
31:50
games the way that it goes, the three seed against the six seed,
31:53
the four against the five, and suddenly that sucked me back in.
31:56
Pete, how about you? Yeah, the the problem with this
31:59
is you have to everyone kind of conflates this with other
32:03
playoffs and, you know, this is not like the NCA tournament.
32:07
You can't just get hot from three for a couple games and all
32:11
of a sudden be in the Elite 8. You know, you just you're not
32:13
going to have you're never going to see Boise State or, you know,
32:18
Indiana of this year or so make a deep run.
32:21
They might win a game. And we thought TCU, you know,
32:24
which was, you know, miraculously beat Michigan, but
32:27
they're not. But then you saw Hill coming to
32:29
breakfast in the the national championship.
32:31
Georgia, it's my nineteen eight tournament team.
32:33
Every time you see a central directional state beat Duke in
32:36
the second round, that means there's an 8530 game coming very
32:40
soon right after. So you're not going to see that
32:43
kind of stuff happening. You're not going to see like
32:45
stuff like the NBA where you see, oh, well, there's parity
32:47
where the Knicks are, you know, going to play the Pacers for the
32:50
championship. It's going to be the same like 5
32:53
teams. If you've looked at the history
32:54
of college football over the last 150 plus years, it was like
32:57
Princeton and Yale and then Michigan and then pretty much
33:01
since then and it's been basically all Alabama, Ohio
33:04
State, you know, Notre Dame, USD, you know, the big, big
33:08
block, you know, chain colleges that are all in there.
33:12
They're the ones who win this. You're not going to get some
33:14
outlier who's going to win a national championship, but it's
33:17
just kind of fun to be in the tournament.
33:18
And that's kind of the point. That was the point of UCFA few
33:21
years ago. And for all these programs, they
33:23
said, oh, we should get in Florida State a couple years.
33:25
We just want our chance. Even though they would, they get
33:28
just absolutely pile driven. They just want their chance to
33:31
get embarrassed on national TV and then they have their
33:33
closure. Pete Futech, College football
33:35
News joins us. Pete, as you have begun your
33:38
your previews of each of the programs, is there a team that
33:43
either from a positive or a negative that you went into
33:45
doing your work, thought, oh, this team's going to be really
33:48
good and then turned out maybe they got some issues.
33:50
Or conversely, a team that you thought, boy, it's going to be a
33:53
long year. But the more you look into it,
33:55
maybe you'll overlook this is. Is there anyone that fits that
33:59
criteria? It is all about the schedule
34:03
because now here's the thing, you might have a a tougher
34:07
batter, Big 10 and SEC. But if you happen to miss Ohio
34:12
State, Penn State, Michigan, or if you happen to miss Georgia
34:16
and Texas and Tennessee or when you not everyone gets the same
34:21
schedule. So you might have one of these
34:23
teams like Indiana of last year, or you might, if you have, you
34:26
know, one or two games that are nasty, OK, maybe you can lose
34:29
those. And yet you can still beat 10:00
34:31
and 2:00. So like really quirky team.
34:34
Look at the Cal schedule. Al is not that good.
34:37
They lost pretty much everybody. But if you look at the Golden
34:40
Bear schedule, they miss everybody.
34:43
Like they don't play Clemson, they don't play Miami, they
34:46
don't play, I don't think, I think they missed SMU or at
34:48
least they get them at home. But like, it's just who's got
34:52
the nastiest schedule. They look at a team like
34:54
mentions before, like Wisconsin, they're getting better.
34:57
They're they're finally figured out.
34:58
Hey, maybe we should go back to, I don't know, running the doing
35:02
stuff that was really good. But if you look at their
35:04
schedule, good luck thing with Oklahoma, Oklahoma is way better
35:09
this year after what they've done in the portal.
35:11
But you look at their schedule and you know, even with
35:14
Oklahoma, that's going to be a fight to get the seven wins.
35:17
So when you're trying to figure out the season, and this is kind
35:20
of the part of the playoffs system too, and this is the only
35:22
reason why the conference championships sort of matter
35:26
because it does root out. The SMU is a little bit kind of
35:29
exposes them even though they still got in.
35:31
It really does kind of give one kind of fail safe to those teams
35:36
that are kind of, I don't say fraud, but kind of little,
35:39
little over their skis a little bit because of an easier
35:42
schedule. You know those Bucky Badgers
35:44
very well if the wheels come off again and it can with that
35:48
schedule in October at Michigan, home for Iowa, Ohio State,
35:52
Oregon, Jesus, that's just the month of October that they have
35:55
completely. Go back to September.
35:57
Don't they play Alabama? They do play Alabama and then
35:59
they wrap up November Washington.
36:01
They can bounce back. Indiana playoff team, Illinois
36:03
A10 win team from a year ago and then the Gophers to wrap it up.
36:06
Oh my God, we know the schedule is tough.
36:09
If they go 4 and 8, is that it? Are they pulling the plug?
36:13
You have to, I, I like I, I am a fan part of the college football
36:20
thing and part of the sports thing for me is like, if
36:23
something works, don't mess with, you know, I do get that
36:26
sometimes, you know, you be careful of what you wish for
36:30
because, you know, Nebraska, oh, well, we've got to modernize.
36:33
We got to get the forward pass. And what did they do after that?
36:36
You know, it all fell apart. It worked for it worked for
36:38
Oklahoma. You know, they were able to go
36:40
from being the ultimate wishbone team to ultimate high octane
36:43
passing. So sometimes it clicks.
36:45
But if you do something that works for so long, you guys, you
36:49
guys maybe stick with it and maybe tweak it rather than blow
36:53
it up. And they went away from and they
36:56
acknowledge it. They went away from, you know,
36:57
Wisconsin, they stopped doing, you know, big lineman who just
37:01
bash people and run the ball. And it just there was a hard
37:05
feeling of where they could have gotten because they just don't
37:08
have the Ohio State talent that goes for everybody.
37:11
But you should be better than that.
37:13
And I, I do think at this point, and I come from an era where
37:16
again, my freshman year and I close with you guys my freshman
37:19
year in the, I remember opening up the USA TODAY and the
37:22
staggering rankings, they're like 121 teams at the time in
37:27
Wisconsin was 124 after like Cal Poly or something like that.
37:31
And so I remember what it's like to be bad.
37:34
So I'm not greedy. But yeah, the fickle thing has
37:36
not worked so far. Does Bill Belichick on the
37:39
sideline on Labor Day evening? I why not I, I, I honestly don't
37:44
get this. Maybe I'm old, but like, dude,
37:47
if you're 72, more power to you like.
37:49
You know, go creepy, knock it out.
37:51
I'm old too. It's just, it's, I mean, it's
37:53
just weird. And yeah, but we're all going to
37:56
die, and then at that point, who cares?
37:57
So then might as well have your fun along the way.
38:01
But here you watch me. That goes to my point before.
38:04
Look at their schedule. Like first of all, if the Belt
38:08
can still coach, all this stuff is just a quirky side note.
38:12
But if you look at the North Carolina schedule, they miss
38:15
everybody except Clemson. That is except Clemson.
38:18
But that is A10 win schedule with mediocre team.
38:23
Or at least at least it's a nine win schedule and they're still
38:26
alive for the playoffs in mid November.
38:29
And he's Belichick so he might still be good for all the blah
38:32
blah blah. It happens in May.
38:33
Once the ball is kicked off in August, no one's going to care.
38:37
Petefutecollegefootballnews.com, collegefootballnews.com.
38:40
Great work over there, Pete. Thank you.
38:42
Appreciate you coming on as always.
38:44
Anytime guys have a good one. Good to talk to you.
38:46
That's Labor Day night. TCU, North Carolina.
38:49
Yeah, he'll beat. Are you?
38:51
You believe in the Pablo Tori stuff?
38:54
I mean I'm we switched roles here?
38:57
Sounds like I was all in. Yeah, I thought you thought it
38:59
was going to be good. I told you it was going to be a
39:01
disaster, but I didn't have this part.
39:02
As Pete says, the schedule is pretty favorable for them.
39:07
I mean, in a lot of ways. All right, we got to take time.
39:09
I'll come back, finish up our #1 Miller and Condon Iowa Sports
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39:14
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39:15
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39:25
Michael Jordan special contributor to NBCS coverage
39:29
What? What do we expect?
39:30
Joe Montana, I bet he's going to be terrible.
39:32
Joe Montana was awful. He was really bad, and I think
39:35
Michael Jordan's going to be really bad in this role.
39:37
I'm still excited for it. I'm still going to be flipping
39:39
on streaming because he's going to be on Peacock, right?
39:42
So does he. Is he at the desk?
39:44
I don't think. I think it's going to be like
39:46
some voice over things. Remote.
39:48
Yeah, I don't see him. I don't either.
39:51
I'm kind. I mean, cuz Gretzky's good.
39:54
He is who wasn't at the beginning though.
39:56
No, he was. Took some reps.
39:58
That's true, but obviously the best ever played that sport,
40:02
Jordan, arguably the best ever played in the NBA, he would get
40:05
my vote. No bite to him.
40:09
I hope it works, I'm not confident it will.
40:12
All right, we'll see next year. Right away we go.
40:16
We'll be back with our #220. Four days until printing of Phil
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