Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Advancing Care Through Connection and Digital Innovation with Matthew Harinstein, MD, MBA
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- 0:02At athenahealth,
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- 0:43Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Becker's Health Health
- 0:45Care podcast. I'm Scott King. Thrilled today to
- 0:48be joined by Matthew Harenstein, vice president and
- 0:51associate chief medical officer over at Northwell. Matthew,
- 0:54thanks so much for joining us today. How
- 0:56are you doing?
- 0:57I'm great. Thanks so much for having me,
- 0:59Scott. It's a it's a great honor to
- 1:00be here and a a pleasure to share
- 1:02a little bit about what we've been doing.
- 1:04Of course. And we really appreciate your time,
- 1:06and and we're gonna appreciate your expertise diving
- 1:07into some kind of big topics and trends
- 1:10going on in health care right now. But
- 1:12before we jump to the questions, just wondering
- 1:13if you could please introduce yourself and just
- 1:15tell us a little bit about your background.
- 1:18Yes. Absolutely. So I'm doctor Matthew Harenstein.
- 1:21I am, vice president and an associate chief
- 1:23medical officer at Northwell Health. I'm also a
- 1:26practicing cardiologist
- 1:27and have spent, much of my career focused
- 1:30on, cardiovascular imaging, specifically nuclear cardiology
- 1:33and echocardiography,
- 1:35as well as assessment of, perioperative patients and,
- 1:39in cardio oncology.
- 1:41Before joining Northwell, I spent about fifteen years
- 1:44at UPMC in Pittsburgh.
- 1:45I held roles, that bridge clinical medicine, physician
- 1:48leadership, and administration,
- 1:50both domestically and internationally.
- 1:53What really drew drew me to
- 1:55Northwell was its phenomenal and unique culture.
- 1:58I think one that balances clinical excellence,
- 2:01optimal care of the patients, innovation,
- 2:03and really focuses on, the workforce.
- 2:06In my current role, I work, with our
- 2:09chief medical officer in the CMO office,
- 2:12as well as hospital leaders to help advance
- 2:14system integration, efforts to strengthen our culture,
- 2:17support our providers,
- 2:19and enhance engagement across our system.
- 2:22Thanks so much for sharing that background information.
- 2:24And to get to the the trends in
- 2:26health care I I had mentioned,
- 2:28what opportunities and headwinds do you have your
- 2:30eye on right now in health care?
- 2:34Great question. There there's a number of opportunities,
- 2:37really across the continuum, but, you know, the
- 2:40the couple that I'm focused on specifically are,
- 2:42really around using data and digital tools to
- 2:45advance our care and to allow providers, to
- 2:47spend more time with the patients and also
- 2:49helping to identify patients who may benefit,
- 2:52from specific types of care. So a lot
- 2:54of opportunity to use AI and, you know,
- 2:57look at patients who might qualify for particular
- 2:59treatments or procedures
- 3:01and help them to to receive the right
- 3:03care that they need and also to really
- 3:05help with, our providers and promote,
- 3:08you know, a culture that allows them to
- 3:10be as satisfied as possible.
- 3:12I think if we can use some of
- 3:14these tools to identify patients who'd benefit from
- 3:17procedures such as diabetes or cardiovascular care or
- 3:21things like structural heart procedures,
- 3:23we can help to really optimize our clinical
- 3:25pathways and workflows.
- 3:26Think another,
- 3:28opportunity
- 3:29is really for us around the integration between
- 3:31Northwell and Nuvance Health, which started, this year.
- 3:35It's it's not really just about combining two
- 3:37systems, but it's really about creating,
- 3:39a system that's even stronger. It's now,
- 3:42allowing us to unify, you know, best practices
- 3:45from both Northwell and Nuvance,
- 3:47elevate,
- 3:48quality across, the regions,
- 3:50and really leverage all of the resources and
- 3:52clinical expertise that now,
- 3:54sit anywhere between Long Island through New York,
- 3:58and into Connecticut,
- 3:59and to really make those available to to
- 4:02all of our patients.
- 4:03I think at the same time, regarding the
- 4:05headwinds that we're that we're seeing, I think
- 4:07a lot of these are ones that many
- 4:09health systems are facing right now in terms
- 4:11of workforce challenges,
- 4:13financial constraints, and the pace of change.
- 4:16The key is, I think, maintaining a culture
- 4:18where people feel valued and supported, and their
- 4:21well-being is promoted.
- 4:22From my perspective, I think when employees
- 4:25feel satisfied in their roles, when they feel
- 4:28seen or heard or connected to their purpose,
- 4:30I think everyone is more efficient, productive, and
- 4:32ultimately happier. So if we can make sure
- 4:35that every one of our staff members from
- 4:37administration
- 4:39to ancillary services to the provider level is
- 4:42satisfied in what they're doing. I think everybody,
- 4:45works better. And, really, who benefits the most
- 4:48is, our patients who receive the best care,
- 4:51and have the best experience.
- 4:53And, doctor Herndon, I just wanna follow-up on
- 4:55on something you said. You you said you're
- 4:57using
- 4:58your system's implementing AI to free up time
- 5:00with patients, and that that way you have
- 5:01more time to patients and and can really
- 5:03listen to them. How has that kinda early
- 5:06implementation worked? Are you already seeing a lot
- 5:07more time with patients,
- 5:10at your system versus having to do, you
- 5:12know, all all the kind of administrative stuff?
- 5:14Yeah. So from that perspective, I think a
- 5:16lot of, systems are moving more towards the,
- 5:19Ambient
- 5:20AI in terms of, how to,
- 5:23better be able to produce clinical notes and
- 5:26focus, you know, less on the documentation
- 5:28and more on time spent with patient care.
- 5:30And so this is, certainly something that is,
- 5:33going to be, rolled out at Northwell
- 5:36and, you know, creates an opportunity for, you
- 5:38know, more focus on the patient and and
- 5:40hopefully more satisfaction for the providers.
- 5:43Absolutely. And I also want to ask you,
- 5:45how are you thinking about
- 5:47growth and adding value to your organization?
- 5:50So I think from a, you know, Northwell
- 5:52perspective,
- 5:54growth really isn't just
- 5:55measured by geography or or clinical volume, but
- 5:58it's also about, you know, value and and
- 6:00impact.
- 6:01So we're focused on growing intelligently,
- 6:04really strengthening our clinical programs around transplantation,
- 6:08surgical areas, including cardiac, neurosurgery,
- 6:11abdominal,
- 6:12and others, and then leveraging digital tools to
- 6:14expand access and, building integrated teams that, you
- 6:17know, can help deliver care seamlessly across the
- 6:20health system.
- 6:21I think focusing on our network and focusing
- 6:23on strengthening our hospital medical staffs is really
- 6:25critically important.
- 6:27The more that we can connect to the
- 6:28ambulatory to the hospital and make sure that
- 6:31people feel,
- 6:33a part of the community and know how
- 6:35to get their patients to move throughout the
- 6:36system,
- 6:37is really critically important. That's how patients are
- 6:40gonna be able to receive the care that
- 6:41they need, hopefully, as close to home as
- 6:43possible.
- 6:44And the more we function as a network,
- 6:46the more providers are gonna know how and
- 6:48who to get in touch with and the
- 6:50more that ultimately the patients will be able
- 6:52to receive the best care.
- 6:54I also think, you know, as far as
- 6:56as growth, we're really deeply committed to cultivating,
- 7:00you know, a culture
- 7:01that is really more of a strategic asset.
- 7:03And what I mean by that is,
- 7:05you know, programs,
- 7:07you know, in our perioperative areas where we're
- 7:09reinforcing what it means to lead with purpose
- 7:11and empathy in some of our hospitals,
- 7:13We really are emphasizing the best culture possible.
- 7:16And when you have a a really great
- 7:17culture where people feel respected, part of the
- 7:20team, it creates really the safest and highest
- 7:22quality care for the patients. And so really
- 7:25focusing on, you know, culture as a growth
- 7:27asset,
- 7:28is important,
- 7:29as well. And, and, ultimately, when pay when
- 7:31people feel empowered and respected, they're gonna contribute
- 7:34ideas, solve problems, drive improvement, and that's only
- 7:37gonna lead to, to more growth opportunities.
- 7:39You mentioned digital tools. Obviously, we're we're seeing
- 7:42and and hearing about a lot of systems
- 7:44investing in more and more of them. What's
- 7:46one risk or investment worth making this year,
- 7:49you think? And would it be a a
- 7:51digital tool or something else?
- 7:52Yeah. So,
- 7:54so great question and and one that definitely
- 7:56applies in our case. And, you know, I
- 7:58think one of the, you know, the the
- 8:00way I would phrase it is one of
- 8:01the most meaningful investments that we can make
- 8:03is is in our people and particularly,
- 8:06you know, leadership development,
- 8:08engagement,
- 8:10and and well-being.
- 8:12And
- 8:13one of the things that we have just
- 8:14implemented at Northwell is, the first wave of
- 8:17of EPIC. And so, EPIC is going to
- 8:20be the new electronic health record, at Northwell,
- 8:23and it's going to be, implemented across a
- 8:25a couple of different waves. And we just
- 8:27had our first wave in several of our
- 8:29hospitals and ambulatory sites, and it's really,
- 8:32really occurred with great success.
- 8:34You saw,
- 8:35physicians, nurses,
- 8:37you know, frontline leaders who are all,
- 8:40working, you know, around the clock and really
- 8:42in concert with one another to make sure
- 8:44that this,
- 8:45you know, moves forward seamlessly.
- 8:47And I was just so impressed with how
- 8:49well everything,
- 8:50worked out. And I had the opportunity,
- 8:53over the last week or so to visit
- 8:55many of our sites
- 8:57and talk with,
- 8:58people at all levels of the organization.
- 9:00And, really, we heard,
- 9:02myself and and one of my colleagues who,
- 9:05visited some of these sites, nothing but enthusiasm.
- 9:09You know, this time when you're moving from
- 9:10one EHR to another,
- 9:12particularly from a,
- 9:13you know, a different company,
- 9:16can be daunting for providers. It's a new
- 9:18system. It's something that they're not familiar with.
- 9:20You know, even with all the training that
- 9:22you go through, once it's it's finally time
- 9:24for prime time, you know, it can be
- 9:25challenging.
- 9:26But we heard nothing but, excitement, and people
- 9:29were just talking about,
- 9:31already how much they're seeing improvement in some
- 9:33of their workflows
- 9:34and, that this is only gonna be more
- 9:36positive for their daily lives and for for
- 9:38the patient care. So really just, you know,
- 9:41extremely,
- 9:42excited.
- 9:43And I think another investment, you know, when
- 9:45we think about it is is really moving
- 9:46forward with, you know, this this idea of
- 9:48this new EHR and what Epic can do
- 9:50for us is some of the the digital
- 9:52analytic capabilities. You know, again, how can we
- 9:55utilize AI to,
- 9:57help us with,
- 9:58you know, creating notes, with creating discharge summaries.
- 10:01We talked about that, previously.
- 10:04How can we, you know, better monitor patients?
- 10:06And so all of these things that we
- 10:08can now do will will only enhance our
- 10:11communication amongst ourselves with the with the patients
- 10:14and hopefully,
- 10:16improve the well-being of, of our staff.
- 10:19It's great to hear the epic rollout is
- 10:21going very well, over at Northwell. That's wonderful
- 10:23news. And
- 10:24the last thing I wanted to ask you,
- 10:25doctor Harenstein,
- 10:27where do you see the best opportunities for
- 10:29growth in the future?
- 10:31So from my perspective, I think the growth,
- 10:33really lies in connection.
- 10:35Connecting,
- 10:37our health systems between,
- 10:39Northwell Nuvance,
- 10:40connecting data, and, you know, really, connecting our
- 10:43people. And, you know, the the integration with
- 10:46Nuvance is a great example of that. We're
- 10:47bringing together,
- 10:49many talented teams,
- 10:50complementary
- 10:51resources,
- 10:52and, shared values, to deliver exceptional care in
- 10:55the communities.
- 10:56But, also, it's important to think about strengthening
- 10:59our network to make sure that everyone has
- 11:00access to every resource in the health system
- 11:03that allows us to identify patients and, you
- 11:06know, to make sure that they're placed in
- 11:07in the right place for care. And so
- 11:10the more that we can
- 11:11connect our medical staffs, connect the community physicians,
- 11:16across all of our different areas, the more
- 11:18successful we'll be. If you,
- 11:20enter care through, a primary care physician, which
- 11:23is a wonderful opportunity for us to think
- 11:26about growth in the future,
- 11:29if they know who to go directly to
- 11:31to receive care,
- 11:32that will just occur seamlessly. And now all
- 11:34of a sudden, that patient who may struggle
- 11:36to figure out, you know, where do I
- 11:37go next? Who do I go to for
- 11:38my referral?
- 11:40Now is going to be able to get
- 11:41that appointment,
- 11:42get into the system, and then, again, get
- 11:44the treatment they need. That might be making
- 11:46sure that they're monitored for prevention purposes. It
- 11:49might be being,
- 11:51told that there's an opportunity for them to
- 11:53get a procedure that's going to help them
- 11:54that they now qualify for to to help
- 11:56them live longer or live a more, you
- 11:59know, healthy life. So
- 12:01these are, I I think, you know, just
- 12:03critical,
- 12:04opportunities for growth is is really to make
- 12:06those connections and to, you know, make sure
- 12:09that people know how to get through the
- 12:10system. And for the procedures that might not
- 12:13be closest to home, now patients really throughout
- 12:16our health system can have access to those
- 12:18high acuity,
- 12:19procedures
- 12:20like transplantation
- 12:22and others. So I think that's really where
- 12:24I see,
- 12:25the most growth. And, you know, overall, I
- 12:27think health care is about, you know, people.
- 12:30It's the people we care for,
- 12:31the people that deliver the care.
- 12:33I think when we have this this environment
- 12:35of connection,
- 12:37and, you know, promotion of well-being,
- 12:39Everyone has the opportunity to flourish, and, you
- 12:41know, hopefully, we can deliver the the best
- 12:43care,
- 12:44with the highest quality and and hopefully with
- 12:46a high level of innovation overall.
- 12:48Absolutely. And and certainly some great strategies and
- 12:51and
- 12:52insight on on growth there. And, doctor Henstein,
- 12:54thanks so much for joining us on the
- 12:55podcast. It was a great conversation. I look
- 12:57forward to working with you again soon. Thanks
- 12:59so much. I appreciate the opportunity to join
- 13:00you and look forward to speaking again.
- 13:05At athenahealth, we know your ambulatory practice wants
- 13:08healthier,
- 13:09a healthier business, healthier care teams, and healthier
- 13:12patients.
- 13:12But the complexities of modern health care tech
- 13:15make it hard for you and your care
- 13:17teams to focus on what matters most.
- 13:19That's where athenahealth can help. Our AI native
- 13:22all in one solutions reduce administrative burdens,
- 13:25streamline billing and payments, and deliver critical insights
- 13:28when clinicians need it most. That means fewer
- 13:31clicks, more time for patients, and stronger bottom
- 13:34lines.
- 13:35Practicing medicine is complex, but running a practice
- 13:38can be that much simpler with athenahealth.
- 13:41See how simpler is healthier at athenahealth.com.