Latest / The Occult Rejects / CIA Release: Analysis of the Gateway Process Part 1
Transcript
- 0:02Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Question what's gonna happen?
- 0:24Speaker 3: Good evening, and welcome to the occult Rejects. We gotta
- 0:32Speaker 3: we got a bangor show for you all tonight.
- 0:36Speaker 4: But before we get started, go ahead and hit that
- 0:38Speaker 4: like button. Share the stream.
- 0:39Speaker 5: It's the Fringing Family and uh uh introduced our analyst,
- 0:45Speaker 5: are too, are reject for the We have some familiar
- 0:48Speaker 5: face here with us. Y'all all know me, I am
- 0:52Speaker 5: the host, would be grateful podcast cools.
- 0:55Speaker 2: My jes sounds like you. Mike is fucked up.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Now you're breaking up.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Sorry about that. We had you do the intro and
- 1:04Speaker 2: the mic fucked though my mic? Oh now you sound great?
- 1:07Speaker 2: Now you sound fine? Yeah, oh no, it was literally
- 1:11Speaker 2: after you played that that sound too like change the mic.
- 1:14Speaker 3: It's because we started the stream and then he played
- 1:17Speaker 3: the sound if you play I think that happens when
- 1:20Speaker 3: I start the stream and I hit the hell.
- 1:23Speaker 6: That was you who played that's yeah, So let's go
- 1:27Speaker 6: ahead and introduce our other host, Arrows.
- 1:33Speaker 3: You want to go ahead and tell every end guys,
- 1:35Speaker 3: this is Arrows is and we did not plan to
- 1:38Speaker 3: match our shirts. That just hit synchronicities but this was
- 1:46Speaker 3: her kind of idea. So I'm actually pretty excited because
- 1:51Speaker 3: I know very little about what we're talking about tonight.
- 1:54Speaker 3: So Arrows, do you want to kind of let people
- 1:57Speaker 3: know who you are and maybe what we're going to
- 1:59Speaker 3: be getting into and will introduce the rest of the
- 2:02Speaker 3: rejects here?
- 2:04Speaker 1: Sure? Hey everyone, it's great to see you. Great to
- 2:08Speaker 1: be on again, Am arrows Up. You can find me
- 2:13Speaker 1: on YouTube at arrows Up, and you can find me
- 2:15Speaker 1: on Twitter at aras to Ethos. I post a lot
- 2:19Speaker 1: about metaphysics and the eneads and astrology and yeah, today
- 2:25Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about the Gateway process. So I
- 2:31Speaker 1: guess that apparently like it sounds like they had kids
- 2:38Speaker 1: listen to a bunch of these tapes and stuff like that,
- 2:42Speaker 1: But this is just a CIA document that goes over
- 2:46Speaker 1: like some of the reasoning and the results of it.
- 2:52Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting, so I'm I'm excited to get into
- 2:56Speaker 1: it with you guys. There's an astral projection they talk about,
- 3:01Speaker 1: like Condolini awakening, hypnosis, and they mentioned the occult like
- 3:10Speaker 1: all the like multiple times, so it's pretty interesting.
- 3:14Speaker 2: If I remember correctly.
- 3:15Speaker 7: Not to rupt, but like, don't they even This is
- 3:17Speaker 7: the paperwork you see a lot of people post on
- 3:19Speaker 7: the internet where it's like, oh, the government's saying we
- 3:21Speaker 7: live in a matrix. If I'm correct, I'm almost positive
- 3:24Speaker 7: this is even the paperwork that says that too, where
- 3:26Speaker 7: it shows like they got the head and all the
- 3:27Speaker 7: slicing and all that stuff.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Like a projection. Yeah, I kind of.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Very interesting.
- 3:35Speaker 4: So I don't think I have the right pdf pulled up.
- 3:38Speaker 4: What's it called?
- 3:39Speaker 1: Specifically, it's the Gateway Process. Scroll all the way up.
- 3:46Speaker 4: I got the stargate.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Is this related to the telepathy test?
- 3:51Speaker 4: That's not the right one.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that might be the right one.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I said, are you using the link that is? Yeah,
- 4:03Speaker 1: because it's it's titled Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process, right,
- 4:09Speaker 1: I was looking.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Up there on that.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Well, if we wow, while we're figuring this out, if
- 4:15Speaker 3: y'all want to uh introduce the rest of yourselves.
- 4:19Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Nick, yeah, thank you very much. Uh yeah,
- 4:22Speaker 7: Nick from the Oicle Rejects. You can find uh you
- 4:25Speaker 7: can find though you find a bit shoot rumble YouTube,
- 4:28Speaker 7: old major podcast. Uh just to let people know who
- 4:31Speaker 7: are listening now, Uh, we got Ike Baker and we
- 4:34Speaker 7: got Jamie poul Lamb coming on tomorrow at three point thirty.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Uh, definitely keep an eye out for that.
- 4:39Speaker 7: We'll be talking about astrology over the ages, you know,
- 4:42Speaker 7: over time. And we also got a big name next
- 4:45Speaker 7: week coming on. Finally got her on. We got Georgina
- 4:48Speaker 7: Rose coming on next Wednesday. So she's a big name
- 4:53Speaker 7: in the LIMA. She's not a member of the OTO,
- 4:55Speaker 7: but she has a big name in the LIMA. So
- 4:56Speaker 7: uh definitely checked that out. I was a little impressed
- 4:59Speaker 7: that was finally to get her on the show. So
- 5:02Speaker 7: the check that out.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for that.
- 5:06Speaker 7: Yeah, but uh yeah, that's that's about it. And uh yeah, thanks,
- 5:09Speaker 7: thanks you all for showing up. And again Arrows, thanks
- 5:11Speaker 7: for uh thanks for coming up with this topic because,
- 5:13Speaker 7: like I had mentioned in the group chat, like that
- 5:15Speaker 7: was an idea that me and Lux had when we
- 5:17Speaker 7: covered the first time, and we just never did it.
- 5:20Speaker 7: So I'm glad we're actually going back and doing it now.
- 5:22Speaker 7: And for some reason it seems to be uh it
- 5:24Speaker 7: seems to be a hot topic again. It's probably about
- 5:27Speaker 7: the third time I've noticed it being a hot topic
- 5:28Speaker 7: after I covered it.
- 5:30Speaker 2: So like you know. Yes, I better late than never.
- 5:34Speaker 2: But thanks again.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Is this related to the tapes it all?
- 5:41Speaker 8: I think it's more related to remote viewing.
- 5:44Speaker 4: Okay, so I think you're mince messed it up again?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Great?
- 5:53Speaker 2: All right, so Ethan, why don't you introduce yourself real quick?
- 5:58Speaker 8: It's honored to be here with you, guys. I really
- 6:00Speaker 8: love exchanging information and learning and sharing. And this document
- 6:05Speaker 8: really is so interesting because it brings together the occult
- 6:08Speaker 8: of politics and the occult of consciousness really right right
- 6:14Speaker 8: into the network of the US government. So Ethan, Indigo Smith.
- 6:19Speaker 8: I'm on all the social media and I appreciate anyone
- 6:22Speaker 8: reaching out all whenever if they feel like it. And
- 6:26Speaker 8: I have a bunch of articles and a few books
- 6:29Speaker 8: out there and appreciate anyone checking out those two. And again,
- 6:33Speaker 8: honored to be here.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Julian, Mike working Now you want to try it? Yeah,
- 6:41Speaker 2: you're good, You're good.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
- 6:46Speaker 7: Uh.
- 6:46Speaker 3: You can introduce headless now, all right, Headless, Last, but
- 6:50Speaker 3: not least, what's up guys?
- 6:53Speaker 4: Headless Chat. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter
- 6:57Speaker 4: and on YouTube Headless Giant podcast as. You can also
- 7:02Speaker 4: send me your strange and mysterious experiences in your dreams
- 7:08Speaker 4: or in reality at Helpless Giant Podcast at gmail dot
- 7:13Speaker 4: com and we will read those on Thursdays on my
- 7:16Speaker 4: Magical mail Bag show. Also on some days we got
- 7:21Speaker 4: the Trialogues with Ethan and Ricardo and on Mondays I
- 7:25Speaker 4: have the Alchemy Mondays with Arrows. So also check out
- 7:31Speaker 4: Tuesday seven seven seven with Nick.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Also check out Rustic Gods with Jewels.
- 7:40Speaker 4: That's all it is.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Never you never outlook. It doesn't it doesn't offend me,
- 7:44Speaker 3: but you never show. It's fine. It's fine because it's
- 7:49Speaker 3: like a series. It's like an a cult reject series, right.
- 7:51Speaker 1: But the last one was wild.
- 7:55Speaker 8: It's wild.
- 7:56Speaker 3: The last one was great. And dude, there's so many
- 7:58Speaker 3: I had a bunch of is of Demeter that I
- 8:02Speaker 3: that I wanted to pull up that we didn't. We
- 8:03Speaker 3: didn't get to pulling up. We didn't get to talking
- 8:06Speaker 3: about Nastic Conformant or that video that you were gonna
- 8:10Speaker 3: pull up, the crazy Wife swap video. We didn't get
- 8:12Speaker 3: a chance to pull that up either.
- 8:14Speaker 4: So we got so much more in store.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Maybe for next yeah, maybe for the next episode, guys.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Yeah, for people, definitely go check out that series. It's
- 8:22Speaker 2: rather impressive.
- 8:23Speaker 7: Like my man's covering a lot of shit, you know
- 8:25Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like and the dudes doing it freestyles. Ude, Yeah,
- 8:29Speaker 7: he's freestyling. He doesn't have notes, you know what I'm saying.
- 8:32Speaker 7: It's like the Ji from Wu Tang over here, just
- 8:35Speaker 7: freestyling crazy.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Shit PhD and paganism. Really.
- 8:44Speaker 7: Oh, you know one thing I want to mention before
- 8:45Speaker 7: we get into the show. So all of us did here,
- 8:48Speaker 7: all of us. You can pat ourselves on the back.
- 8:50Speaker 7: I know one time I was bitching that we're only
- 8:52Speaker 7: number two in the occult podcast community, out of the
- 8:55Speaker 7: top one hundred, but we are number one in her
- 8:57Speaker 7: meticism podcasts. Uh so yeah, there we go, out of
- 9:00Speaker 7: the top seventy podcast for our medicism.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Hul rejects number one talking about baby.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:09Speaker 7: And you know some of this, I'll be totally honest
- 9:11Speaker 7: with you, some of the shows that we beat that
- 9:13Speaker 7: were on there, I was like, oh wow, like I
- 9:17Speaker 7: had that that guy on for a Cult of Personality,
- 9:21Speaker 7: you know, to me, like that's like that to some
- 9:23Speaker 7: people that was having Sam Tripoli on for them because
- 9:25Speaker 7: they're in the you know, in the conspiracy community.
- 9:29Speaker 2: That was like kind of close for me.
- 9:30Speaker 7: And to find out that my show beat his, I
- 9:32Speaker 7: was like, what the fuck? Just blew me away? You know,
- 9:36Speaker 7: I beat Rune Soup what Like, wow, you know, I
- 9:40Speaker 7: can't believe that.
- 9:41Speaker 2: So I just want to throw that out there. Hard
- 9:43Speaker 2: work pays off.
- 9:45Speaker 3: Well, Nick, props to you for bringing us all to
- 9:49Speaker 3: you know.
- 9:50Speaker 2: But you know, it all happens because we're all here.
- 9:53Speaker 2: You know, it's not all me.
- 9:54Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate that prop seeing that and everyone that's
- 9:57Speaker 8: that's awesome.
- 9:58Speaker 3: Man. Hell yeah, I love you guys.
- 10:02Speaker 4: Hell yea, thank you audience. You guys are awesome.
- 10:06Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, we love you guys as well. I'm
- 10:09Speaker 3: gonna start printing. Well, I have a I think I
- 10:12Speaker 3: have some occult reject stickers on the way. Maybe not
- 10:16Speaker 3: may I may have not put that order in yet.
- 10:18Speaker 3: I'm dude, I have like twenty different sticker designs, guys,
- 10:23Speaker 3: I have in the works, so court reject stickers as well.
- 10:26Speaker 3: I'll be sending them to y'all.
- 10:28Speaker 2: What since my future ex wife of my current baby, well.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Yeah that is the name.
- 10:39Speaker 4: I don't think you comment.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Don't worry us.
- 10:43Speaker 7: Uh, Julia has gotten some pretty nasty comments said, So
- 10:46Speaker 7: don't don't feel too that.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my baby mama whole ass.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Yeah, that screen gap is going to follow her around.
- 11:02Speaker 7: So I guess, just real quick, before we get into
- 11:04Speaker 7: this paperwork, I just want to let people know that again,
- 11:07Speaker 7: like this is an announcement, like it says right here
- 11:08Speaker 7: on the Gateway Process, I think that was part of
- 11:12Speaker 7: the Stargate project. If I correct, I do get those.
- 11:15Speaker 7: The difference you know, between those a little shadier. It's
- 11:18Speaker 7: in a gray area. I get confused. But you know,
- 11:21Speaker 7: for people who don't know what that is, the Gateway
- 11:24Speaker 7: Process is is associated with the Monroe Institute. Interesting thing
- 11:29Speaker 7: about that guy, you could probably listen to the old
- 11:32Speaker 7: the old series that the cole Rejects did. I did
- 11:35Speaker 7: go in to that guy, and he was even very
- 11:36Speaker 7: much connected to radio and even inventing things.
- 11:38Speaker 2: So it's just very interesting you had someone like that.
- 11:41Speaker 7: But it was like tapes and stuff where I guess
- 11:45Speaker 7: back then it was probably tapes where we have different
- 11:48Speaker 7: sounds and different frequencies, and it was almost like guided
- 11:50Speaker 7: meditations at certain points, and.
- 11:52Speaker 2: It was helping people have out of body experiences. Basically.
- 11:56Speaker 7: I even used some of them a long time ago,
- 12:00Speaker 7: and there was certain markers that I would normally use
- 12:03Speaker 7: for myself that I know that I'm about to have
- 12:05Speaker 7: an experience, because it's always the same thing over and
- 12:07Speaker 7: over again. I found those tapes bringing me to that
- 12:11Speaker 7: that point a lot faster, a lot faster, and so
- 12:16Speaker 7: in my opinion, I do think there's probably something there,
- 12:18Speaker 7: and everyone went too far, only did maybe like five
- 12:19Speaker 7: or six tapes, but I definitely think there's something there.
- 12:23Speaker 7: And some of the shit that they talk about in
- 12:25Speaker 7: these papers is pretty wild, and I think it's worth
- 12:27Speaker 7: listening to, you know. Like I mentioned before, me and
- 12:30Speaker 7: Lux had covered it and we wanted to go over
- 12:33Speaker 7: the paperwork, but we didn't because we already had a
- 12:35Speaker 7: bunch of shit to cover. I think it was already
- 12:37Speaker 7: like three parts, so we weren't trying to drag it
- 12:39Speaker 7: out any much longer. And Erros had mentioned it and
- 12:42Speaker 7: I was like, yes, that was like that's something I
- 12:44Speaker 7: wanted to do like four years ago, so let's do it,
- 12:46Speaker 7: you know. So yeah, thank you, Erros, And just that
- 12:50Speaker 7: was just a little bit of I guess, you know,
- 12:52Speaker 7: back back information.
- 12:54Speaker 2: About why we're even doing this. So now Eros, I
- 12:58Speaker 2: think you said the first page, you said we could skip.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Pretty much, right, Yeah, I think so, because it's just
- 13:03Speaker 1: like a letter like from the person who kind of
- 13:10Speaker 1: wrote it up to the government or whatever. So I say,
- 13:16Speaker 1: let's just like dig into the meat of it.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Is there anything you wanted to say about it before
- 13:22Speaker 2: we get into it.
- 13:25Speaker 1: No, I just think it's really interesting. I feel like
- 13:29Speaker 1: you guys probably have more background on it than I do.
- 13:33Speaker 1: I just liked.
- 13:36Speaker 4: If I could pop in that. The reason why I
- 13:38Speaker 4: had the wrong BREDF was because I was thinking this
- 13:40Speaker 4: was the other end of the project, which was Operation Stargate. Yes, yeah,
- 13:47Speaker 4: so Stargate was the one that I had pulled up.
- 13:50Speaker 4: You guys were talking about this. So the gateway process
- 13:53Speaker 4: was used in projects stargates trying to wing about remote viewing, right,
- 13:58Speaker 4: and so they had people from the Monroe Institute doing
- 14:02Speaker 4: remote viewing work with a lot of the well known
- 14:05Speaker 4: remote viewers that you know, like Joe McGonagall. His Mars
- 14:09Speaker 4: one million BC remote viewing was done under Robert Monroe. Yeah,
- 14:16Speaker 4: that's the leak. I had the Stargate document pulled up,
- 14:20Speaker 4: which they talk about the background here. It says in
- 14:24Speaker 4: the mid nineteen or eighteen hundreds. Investigations into a nominalist
- 14:29Speaker 4: mental phenomena were initiated by very limited number of researchers
- 14:34Speaker 4: working essentially independent of one another to examine this area
- 14:38Speaker 4: due to evidence suggested a wide variety of anecdotal accounts
- 14:42Speaker 4: of spontaneous occurrences. So one of the motivations for why
- 14:47Speaker 4: they started looking into remote viewing is because of spiritualism
- 14:52Speaker 4: in the eighteen hundreds. And how they did that methodology
- 14:57Speaker 4: so very nice.
- 14:58Speaker 7: Well thank you for throwing that in there. But uh yeah,
- 15:04Speaker 7: so I know I was rose. I figured maybe we
- 15:08Speaker 7: would all take turns reading. You thought that would probably
- 15:10Speaker 7: work out the best, right, yeah, And I guess as
- 15:15Speaker 7: we read, we could just talk about certain things.
- 15:19Speaker 3: You guys know I love reading.
- 15:20Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I figured we kind of do it
- 15:22Speaker 7: almost like the book club that you do.
- 15:24Speaker 2: And if people don't people don't know what the morning would, yes, yes, god,
- 15:27Speaker 2: so the morning would.
- 15:28Speaker 7: If people don't know what that's about, you got to
- 15:30Speaker 7: check out Jules Saturday. It's for Patreon, but he does
- 15:34Speaker 7: do a little sample for.
- 15:35Speaker 3: People doing a cult anatomy of man Tomorrow. Oh I'll
- 15:37Speaker 3: be here for that, yeah, say, and Ethan, you too. Man,
- 15:42Speaker 3: if you're ever up and you want to join us, dude,
- 15:44Speaker 3: you're always welcome, even if these.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Guys I need to go there.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Yeah, man, for sure.
- 15:49Speaker 7: It's definitely fun. It's it's a good time, and it's
- 15:51Speaker 7: it's you and you talk.
- 15:52Speaker 3: About imagine why up that early on Saturday. Good for you.
- 16:00Speaker 3: Lucy knows, Lucy knows, And guys, we got enchanted Wiggers
- 16:04Speaker 3: coming in twenty twenty six. We'll fit this subliminal.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Messenger Enchanted Wiggers.
- 16:11Speaker 3: It's coming, It's coming, all right, all right, Well we'll
- 16:17Speaker 3: talk about it towards the end of the show. I
- 16:18Speaker 3: have I'm gonna work on like a EP for it,
- 16:22Speaker 3: like a like a little wrap, like an underground wrap EP.
- 16:25Speaker 1: I go.
- 16:26Speaker 3: So it's good.
- 16:26Speaker 2: It's a little shit.
- 16:28Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, nice, I want to
- 16:32Speaker 7: hear that. But yeah, just real quick, definitely check that
- 16:34Speaker 7: shit out. It's on Saturday mornings, so what ten o'clock
- 16:37Speaker 7: your time with some shit but my time?
- 16:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were doing it public and we
- 16:42Speaker 3: do the first hour, so we do two books and
- 16:45Speaker 3: we review one for the first hour. We do that
- 16:48Speaker 3: public and then we cut the x YouTube and we
- 16:52Speaker 3: have two rumble streams. The disagree to agree rumble stream
- 16:57Speaker 3: is the one that stays public, So we'll cut that
- 16:58Speaker 3: and then we'll go to the private, private Patreon stream
- 17:01Speaker 3: for the second hour, hour and a half of this show,
- 17:05Speaker 3: where it's usually the more juicier, you know, stuff that
- 17:10Speaker 3: we're getting into.
- 17:13Speaker 7: So all right, I wrote you want to start it off,
- 17:18Speaker 7: and then I'll and then I guess we could.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Go down this line. Then I'll go just a go
- 17:21Speaker 2: head as a go, and then eything can go if
- 17:23Speaker 2: you want.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to skip the introduction to Yeah, it's
- 17:29Speaker 1: not important, okay. Hypnosis, According to the theories of psychologists
- 17:37Speaker 1: Ronald Stone and the biomedical engineering models of ish ish
- 17:43Speaker 1: it's it's hack Bentov, hypnosis is basically a technique which
- 17:50Speaker 1: permits acquisition of direct access to the sensory motor cortex
- 17:54Speaker 1: and pleasure centers and lower cerebral emotional portion and associated
- 18:01Speaker 1: pleasure centers of the right side of the human brain
- 18:04Speaker 1: following successful disengagement of the stimulus screening function of the
- 18:11Speaker 1: left hemisphere of the brain. The left hemisphere of the
- 18:14Speaker 1: brain is the self cognitive, verbal, and linear reasoning component
- 18:18Speaker 1: of the mind. It fulfills the function of screening and
- 18:22Speaker 1: coming stimuli by categorizing, assessing, and assigning meaning prior to
- 18:27Speaker 1: allowing passage to the right hemisphere of the mind. The
- 18:32Speaker 1: right hemisphere, which functions as the non critical, holistic, non verbal,
- 18:37Speaker 1: and pattern oriented component of the brain, appears to accept
- 18:42Speaker 1: what the left hemisphere passes to it without question. Consequently,
- 18:46Speaker 1: if the left hemisphere can be distracted, either through boredom
- 18:51Speaker 1: or through reduction to a soporific semi sleep state, external
- 18:57Speaker 1: stimuli to include hypnotic suggestions, are allowed to pass unchallenged
- 19:02Speaker 1: into the right hemisphere, where they are accepted and acted
- 19:06Speaker 1: upon directly. The result may involve an emotional reaction originating
- 19:12Speaker 1: in the lower cerebral region, sensory slash motor responses requiring
- 19:17Speaker 1: involvement of the cortex, and so on. Both the sensory
- 19:21Speaker 1: and the motor cortices of the right cerebral portion of
- 19:26Speaker 1: the brain contain a sequence of points known as the homunculus,
- 19:31Speaker 1: which corresponds two points. Oh yeah, I can't see you guys,
- 19:37Speaker 1: so I don't know how to know if you guys
- 19:38Speaker 1: want to interrupt me.
- 19:39Speaker 7: Yoh wait, yeah, I was very excited that I mentioned
- 19:42Speaker 7: the monkey because.
- 19:43Speaker 3: I really mentioned because I.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Still am belief that it's something physical.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Multiple times they do.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Actually well, the sensory homunculous is this figure.
- 19:56Speaker 7: That wraps around the brain and it shows you what
- 19:59Speaker 7: part of the body it efectssum shit.
- 20:00Speaker 3: I think there's a picture of it. A little further down,
- 20:02Speaker 3: there's a there's a little diagram of it maybe right.
- 20:06Speaker 4: Basically, it's like a wiring harness. This is how they
- 20:09Speaker 4: view your brain is basically the wiring comes out in
- 20:12Speaker 4: these areas from these different parts of the body, and
- 20:15Speaker 4: so you've got more wires going to certain parts and
- 20:18Speaker 4: then other other parts have less wires going to them.
- 20:21Speaker 4: But that's how they would characterize your entire bodies. By
- 20:24Speaker 4: looking at the sensory homunculous, you can see where the
- 20:27Speaker 4: most nerve connections are. It's mostly in your face and
- 20:32Speaker 4: eyes and all the rest of that.
- 20:34Speaker 3: A mind.
- 20:36Speaker 4: Right, just scroll out a little bit, you'll see the figure.
- 20:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know headless. You were talking the other
- 20:44Speaker 1: day about how like some people when they ask for
- 20:47Speaker 1: project like they'll use like a magical homunculus to like
- 20:54Speaker 1: protect their.
- 20:56Speaker 4: That's what was talked about in a book called The
- 21:00Speaker 4: The Magnificent world of who's the euclid? Is it euclid? Now,
- 21:06Speaker 4: who's the guy who did the the geometry with the
- 21:10Speaker 4: squares on the x y axis? What's that called? Anyways,
- 21:15Speaker 4: it was that it was that mathematician and he was
- 21:18Speaker 4: talking about how you have to if you're doing extended
- 21:21Speaker 4: journeys outside of the body using astral projection, you need
- 21:25Speaker 4: to have a homoculous guard your body, or else the
- 21:28Speaker 4: demon is gonna hop into your vessel.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, okay, well I guess sertor right that
- 21:38Speaker 3: you could create.
- 21:43Speaker 4: No, no, this was a guy related to Euclidean geometry.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I forgot his name though, all.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Right, I'll continue, thank you. So, the uberal portion of
- 22:00Speaker 1: the brain contain a sequence of points known as the homunculus,
- 22:05Speaker 1: which corresponds to points in the body see Exhibit one
- 22:09Speaker 1: next page. We already looked at that stimulation of the
- 22:13Speaker 1: corresponding area and the core tex causes immediate response in
- 22:17Speaker 1: the associated portion of the body. Consequently, induction of the
- 22:23Speaker 1: suggestion that the left leg is numb if it reaches
- 22:26Speaker 1: the right hemisphere unchallenged and is referred to the appropriate
- 22:31Speaker 1: area of the sensory cortex, will result in an electrical
- 22:34Speaker 1: reaction being generated that will induce the feeling of numbness. Similarly,
- 22:39Speaker 1: the suggestion that the person is experiencing a general feeling
- 22:43Speaker 1: of happiness and well being would be referred to the
- 22:47Speaker 1: appropriate pleasure centers located in the lower cerebral portion or
- 22:52Speaker 1: in the cortex of the right hemisphere, thereby inducing the
- 22:56Speaker 1: suggested feeling of euphoria. Finally, suggestions such as one if I.
- 23:02Speaker 4: Could pop in real quick, Yeah, I think they've mislabeled
- 23:05Speaker 4: that because there is a portion of your brain that
- 23:08Speaker 4: is dedicated to shutting down different parts of the body.
- 23:12Speaker 4: So they're referring to the act of going into a
- 23:15Speaker 4: hypnotic state as being pleasure centers, when really it's actually
- 23:19Speaker 4: just the shutting down motion. So they've sort of mislabeled that,
- 23:25Speaker 4: like either one can be induced, but they're not inducing
- 23:28Speaker 4: the pleasure centers. They're trying to create a numbing sensation.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Well, I think they're talking about just like kind of
- 23:37Speaker 1: multiple examples of what you can do with hypnosis, and
- 23:41Speaker 1: they even talk about like curing disease and stuff later
- 23:46Speaker 1: on in it.
- 23:48Speaker 4: Well, one of the interesting things when I was in
- 23:50Speaker 4: the army, I had a guy who was my roommate
- 23:54Speaker 4: who did self hypnosis, and he could put the back
- 23:57Speaker 4: of his neck on one chair and the act of
- 24:00Speaker 4: his heels on another chair and hold himself up like
- 24:04Speaker 4: that almost indefinitely after hypnotizing himself into a trance. And
- 24:08Speaker 4: what he said was, once you've engaged the part of
- 24:11Speaker 4: your brain that actually produces this rigidity or this I
- 24:16Speaker 4: guess you would call it like a constant tension. It's
- 24:20Speaker 4: not something that can be broken very easily, so he
- 24:22Speaker 4: can actually self hypnotize them into being completely paralyzed. Jeeves, jeez,
- 24:34Speaker 4: it was the guy who taught me how to do it.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Finally, suggestions such as one that informs the hypnotic subject
- 24:43Speaker 1: that he enjoys enhanced concentration or powers of memory would
- 24:47Speaker 1: be responded to in the right hemisphere by accessing unused
- 24:51Speaker 1: information storage capacity normally held in reserve as a result
- 24:56Speaker 1: of left hemisphere selection and control process is this aspect
- 25:01Speaker 1: will become significant in the context of the Gateway process
- 25:05Speaker 1: when attention is given to examining the way that hypnosis
- 25:09Speaker 1: may be used to accelerate progress in the early stages
- 25:13Speaker 1: of the Gateway experience. I just love that because it's
- 25:17Speaker 1: like so much of what we do in magic is
- 25:20Speaker 1: like reprogramming the subconscious, you know, to like get the
- 25:25Speaker 1: results that we want. And I mean that's what this
- 25:28Speaker 1: really is. You know, this is a seems like a
- 25:31Speaker 1: pretty easy direct way to do it.
- 25:35Speaker 7: Yeah, do you want me to go or you want me.
- 25:41Speaker 2: To take a look?
- 25:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I have to probably scroll through it.
- 25:48Speaker 2: So I have it opened up my end.
- 25:50Speaker 8: Oh so, I.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Guess they were teaching people to create these monkeylouses or
- 25:57Speaker 3: was this just like a some kind of research study.
- 26:01Speaker 1: In this context, It's just like it's probably some kind
- 26:06Speaker 1: of bodily parallel, you know, it's the actual physical monculus
- 26:13Speaker 1: in the brain. But I'm sure that there is some
- 26:15Speaker 1: kind of like symbology there that would be like related.
- 26:18Speaker 3: To oh I got you, okay, okay, Yeah.
- 26:22Speaker 8: I think it's more of like a consciousness creation that
- 26:25Speaker 8: can you can, for instance, with the remote viewing, you
- 26:30Speaker 8: can maybe have your consciousness body visit a location, for instance, right,
- 26:36Speaker 8: your homunculars. Maybe I think this is the reference they're
- 26:39Speaker 8: using the military, right.
- 26:43Speaker 4: Well, what they're saying right here is that all of
- 26:45Speaker 4: the nerves in your body have certain places that they
- 26:49Speaker 4: show up at the end of the nervous system in
- 26:53Speaker 4: your brain. Right, So you could see that the feat
- 26:56Speaker 4: it's very small in there because proportionally they are less
- 26:59Speaker 4: nerves that go to your feet, and there are that
- 27:01Speaker 4: go to your head. And this is where the nerves
- 27:05Speaker 4: that go to your head come out. So there's this
- 27:06Speaker 4: strip called the sensory strip, and that is what's connecting
- 27:10Speaker 4: all of the different parts of your body to your brain.
- 27:14Speaker 4: And so in that area you've got the different senses
- 27:17Speaker 4: that then branch off into the other parts or lobes
- 27:20Speaker 4: of the brain. So right, there would be the distribution
- 27:23Speaker 4: of how many nerves there are per anch I guess
- 27:26Speaker 4: in these other parts of your body. So you even
- 27:28Speaker 4: have internal organs that would be in that sensory strip
- 27:32Speaker 4: as well. You know that it's a literal.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Part of the brain.
- 27:36Speaker 3: So did the alchemical uh you know, homunculous creation did
- 27:41Speaker 3: Did they name this part in your brain after that?
- 27:45Speaker 3: Or was that because it is named after your brain?
- 27:49Speaker 3: I mean, this part of.
- 27:51Speaker 4: Your brain was named after the alchemical concept because this
- 27:57Speaker 4: is all of your sensory organs. This is the little you, right,
- 28:01Speaker 4: this is the thing that's pointing outwards. So it makes
- 28:04Speaker 4: sense to me why they would call it a homunculus.
- 28:06Speaker 4: It literally is that part of the brain that is
- 28:09Speaker 4: the sensory homunculous.
- 28:10Speaker 9: Right, okay, I understand it now, you know how you
- 28:15Speaker 9: talking about those nerves running up the side of Ye
- 28:17Speaker 9: go ahead, headless in the uh right, in those in
- 28:21Speaker 9: those two pictures that I made where the guy is
- 28:23Speaker 9: blindfolded or has a pirate patch on, and he has
- 28:27Speaker 9: the warns coming out of it the skull, that's what
- 28:29Speaker 9: I'm actually referring to that, oh, with those things.
- 28:33Speaker 3: And then believe it or not, look at that thing.
- 28:36Speaker 3: I mean that looks like I think that's part of
- 28:38Speaker 3: the lymphatic system right there, right, uh if if it's
- 28:43Speaker 3: the same thing there.
- 28:44Speaker 4: In the middle, yeah, it does, doesn't.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Well I'm glad that next reading this next part because
- 28:52Speaker 1: this made me think of Nick.
- 28:53Speaker 10: Actually, hey, arrows, Arrows, could you put little zodias all
- 29:00Speaker 10: along that body as well?
- 29:05Speaker 4: Because the head is yeah, the head is aries and
- 29:08Speaker 4: then on down.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Oh like on like a full human body.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Right. Well, especially with the sensory homoculous because each one
- 29:20Speaker 4: of those different regions would be governed by a different
- 29:22Speaker 4: zodiac sign.
- 29:24Speaker 1: Oh so interesting. Yeah, you definitely could.
- 29:30Speaker 3: The brain is fascinating the shape of everything in there.
- 29:34Speaker 3: It's just.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Right.
- 29:40Speaker 8: Uh.
- 29:41Speaker 7: Transcendental meditation, on the other hand, transcendental meditation works in
- 29:46Speaker 7: a distinctly different fashion. In this technique, intense and protracted,
- 29:51Speaker 7: single minded concentration on the pron set on the process
- 29:55Speaker 7: of drawing energy up the spinal cord ultimately results in
- 29:59Speaker 7: what appears to be creation of acoustical standing waves in
- 30:03Speaker 7: the cerebral ventricles, which are then conducted to the gray
- 30:07Speaker 7: matter in the cerebral cortex on the right side of
- 30:11Speaker 7: the brain. As a result, according to Bentov, these waves
- 30:16Speaker 7: will stimulate and eventually polarize the cortex in such a
- 30:20Speaker 7: way that it will tend to conduct a single a
- 30:24Speaker 7: signal along to homoculous starting from.
- 30:27Speaker 2: The toes and on up.
- 30:29Speaker 7: Oh geez, Yeah, that's kind of like like I talk
- 30:32Speaker 7: about like when I go to blast off, it's like
- 30:34Speaker 7: from my toes up, I go fucking like it just disappears,
- 30:36Speaker 7: like there's no feeling at all, Like it doesn't.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Exist, Like like from my knees down just gone like this.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I wouldn't even feel them in bed, like they just
- 30:45Speaker 2: didn't exist.
- 30:47Speaker 7: The Bentov biomechanical model, as described in a book by
- 30:51Speaker 7: Lee Sanella, MD entitled Kundalini Psychosis or Transcendence, states that
- 30:57Speaker 7: the standing acoustical waves of the result of the altered
- 31:00Speaker 7: rhythm of the heart sounds which are occasioned by prolonged
- 31:05Speaker 7: practice of meditation, in which set up the sympathetic vibrations
- 31:10Speaker 7: in the walls of the fluid filled cavities which comprise
- 31:14Speaker 7: the third and.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Lateral ventricles of the brain.
- 31:18Speaker 7: In addition, according to bentof the states of blood, the
- 31:22Speaker 7: state of bliss described by those whose Kunglini symptoms have
- 31:26Speaker 7: completed the full loop along the hemisphere may be explained
- 31:30Speaker 7: as self stimulation of the pleasure centers in the brain
- 31:34Speaker 7: caused by the circulation of a current along the sensory cortex.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Bentoff also notes.
- 31:43Speaker 7: That most of the described symptoms start on the left
- 31:47Speaker 7: side of the body, means that it is mostly a
- 31:50Speaker 7: development occurring in the right hemisphere, although normally a period
- 31:56Speaker 7: of meditation, evolving intense concentration and practice for five years
- 32:01Speaker 7: or some is required to bring up the Kundalini Bentorf
- 32:06Speaker 7: state section.
- 32:07Speaker 4: Think about think about the the bappo met One side
- 32:13Speaker 4: is up, one side is down. Are they talking about
- 32:15Speaker 4: the different hemispheres of the brain too. When it comes
- 32:17Speaker 4: to Baphomet.
- 32:20Speaker 7: I guarantee you I've even wondered if that was Jeweles
- 32:23Speaker 7: might remember this in missing pieces and when they're above
- 32:28Speaker 7: the above the convenience store. I think it might be
- 32:31Speaker 7: the little guys like going up and down between.
- 32:34Speaker 2: The world and something like intercourse between the worlds. He
- 32:37Speaker 2: does mention going up down, Yeah.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely, no, that's all. Yeah, And like.
- 32:46Speaker 1: The feminine and masculine.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Right, yeah, oh yeah, and masculine the light in the dark,
- 32:55Speaker 3: masculine feminine.
- 32:56Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very yin yam too, right, because it's got
- 33:00Speaker 8: the internal external right and left opposite kind of crossing, and.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Then it's gotten the human animal kind of chimeric hybrid
- 33:10Speaker 3: to represent the upper and lower self or the lower
- 33:14Speaker 3: and higher self.
- 33:15Speaker 4: I guess I just had a thought. So imagine this, right,
- 33:20Speaker 4: if you're looking at the two parts of the hemispheres
- 33:24Speaker 4: of the brain that have the different sensory homunculous on them,
- 33:27Speaker 4: it's not just this side that has all of that
- 33:31Speaker 4: stuff corresponding to that part of the body. So right
- 33:35Speaker 4: side we correspond to the left side of the body.
- 33:37Speaker 4: So you're literally bisected. Your entire body is bisected in
- 33:42Speaker 4: the middle of your brain, and then the strip for
- 33:44Speaker 4: the right side is over here on the left side,
- 33:46Speaker 4: and the strip for the left side is over here
- 33:48Speaker 4: on the right side. So you're making a physical representation
- 33:51Speaker 4: of the Cross inside of your own body as your
- 33:56Speaker 4: nerves are split in half. So there's literally a sign
- 34:01Speaker 4: of the Cross inside of your brain.
- 34:03Speaker 3: Dude. Yeah, there's the eye of Horus inside of our brain.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Bro.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Like, it's a cult anatomy, which is becoming one of
- 34:12Speaker 3: the most fascinating topics that I've been getting into. Absolutely, yeah,
- 34:18Speaker 3: there is stoked for tomorrow.
- 34:24Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what if Baphamet is like inverted
- 34:29Speaker 1: sphinx instead of like the body of the beasts and
- 34:34Speaker 1: then the head of a human, it's the the body
- 34:39Speaker 1: of a human.
- 34:41Speaker 2: I never realized that's right.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Whoa, So it's not it's not like this beacon of wisdom,
- 34:50Speaker 3: it's it's more so the opposite.
- 34:53Speaker 4: Well, the sphax is kind of an inverted uh uh.
- 34:57Speaker 8: I was thinking of.
- 35:02Speaker 4: Was that either?
- 35:02Speaker 8: Sorry, sorry, I'm lagging. I was thinking there's a Taichi
- 35:07Speaker 8: meditation that is the grand ultimate. Sorry, not the grand Ultimate.
- 35:13Speaker 8: That's taichi the microcosmic orbit, which is a process very
- 35:18Speaker 8: similar to how this transcendental meditation process is being described.
- 35:23Speaker 8: And when this was written, not so much when it
- 35:26Speaker 8: was released publicly. Transcendental meditation actually hypgnosis was very popular too,
- 35:34Speaker 8: not and TCM transcendental meditation push one of the more popular.
- 35:41Speaker 8: It was so pushed and so popular and was a
- 35:45Speaker 8: real big money maker. Not to note in the sense
- 35:49Speaker 8: that it wasn't isn't a valuable meditation practice, but it
- 35:54Speaker 8: was very closed in the sense it wasn't free the
- 35:57Speaker 8: books and the process was very elked for the time,
- 36:02Speaker 8: but it was super popular. My point, being long winded
- 36:06Speaker 8: point is that most meditation processes that are available today
- 36:14Speaker 8: will get you to where this practice, where these suggestions
- 36:19Speaker 8: are leading to right, which is clearing the mind so
- 36:23Speaker 8: that you can get out of the way and tap
- 36:26Speaker 8: into the collective consciousness to simplify. So not not to
- 36:31Speaker 8: knock any like hypnosis, TCM or transcendental meditation, they're still valuable,
- 36:37Speaker 8: but what people are practicing now are probably as valuable.
- 36:41Speaker 8: And that goes to the remote viewing development. It was
- 36:45Speaker 8: it was not stagnant, it was it was a process
- 36:51Speaker 8: in movement emotion and development and so many many things
- 36:55Speaker 8: can be integrated that people might practice today.
- 37:01Speaker 4: I just think it's amazing that it's coming from the CIA.
- 37:04Speaker 3: You know right, Hey, they did it with the Temple
- 37:07Speaker 3: of Set. Dude. They dropped those documents months ago and
- 37:10Speaker 3: speak of which we talked about that last night.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:14Speaker 4: I got all all of Michael Achino's books, so I'm
- 37:17Speaker 4: gonna be a subject matter expert on everything Michael Aquino
- 37:21Speaker 4: by the time I'm finished.
- 37:22Speaker 3: With them all, even more than this.
- 37:31Speaker 4: I bought them off Amazon. I just thought, you know,
- 37:34Speaker 4: somebody's got to do it. Nobody reads Michael. This is
- 37:37Speaker 4: what Nick motivated me to do. He's got the books
- 37:41Speaker 4: that nobody has ever read, and they just talk about
- 37:43Speaker 4: them all day long. So I'm just like, all right, well,
- 37:45Speaker 4: I got to learn everything I need to about the
- 37:48Speaker 4: guy so that I can't say that I'm one of
- 37:49Speaker 4: those people.
- 37:51Speaker 2: I like that man.
- 37:52Speaker 7: No, but you know what, you'll probably have plenty of
- 37:54Speaker 7: actual ship out of his own words to even use anyone.
- 37:57Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that you don't even have
- 37:58Speaker 2: to make up juristic fuck can clickbait shit.
- 38:02Speaker 7: Exactly, or it might actually be like this is maybe
- 38:06Speaker 7: more like you might actually really find the crush.
- 38:09Speaker 8: Out the roots.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Really about.
- 38:12Speaker 4: All of this stuff is about finding out the roots,
- 38:14Speaker 4: because once you can find out the roots, you can
- 38:16Speaker 4: find out where all this other stuff comes from. So
- 38:19Speaker 4: once you know the roots, that's when you can start
- 38:21Speaker 4: plugging all the information.
- 38:23Speaker 7: Sir, I like that, all right, let me go. Uh fuck,
- 38:28Speaker 7: I lost my spot.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Again, I see it, Bentos states.
- 38:33Speaker 7: Bentos states that exposure to mechanical or acoustical vibrations in
- 38:38Speaker 7: the range of four to seven Hurtz cycles per second
- 38:41Speaker 7: for protracted periods may achieve the same effect. Bentoff sites
- 38:46Speaker 7: as an example, repeated writing in a car whose suspension
- 38:49Speaker 7: in seat combination produced that range of vibrations, or being
- 38:54Speaker 7: exposed for long periods of time to these frequencies caused,
- 38:58Speaker 7: for instance, by an air conditioning duct.
- 39:02Speaker 2: I guess that can happen that too. Well.
- 39:04Speaker 7: He also knows that the cumulative effect of these vibrations
- 39:07Speaker 7: may be able to trigger a spontaneous Physiocundalini sequence insusceptible
- 39:13Speaker 7: people who have a particular sensitive nervous system drumedy to
- 39:20Speaker 7: keep going, and then let me just finish off that page, Jules,
- 39:24Speaker 7: And then you'll take over for biofeedback, Okay, yeah, you
- 39:29Speaker 7: keep going if you want.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Oh, if you guys want to take over, go I
- 39:33Speaker 2: can hit it.
- 39:34Speaker 4: Yeah yeah feedback. The third consciousness altering methodology, which we
- 39:40Speaker 4: will be briefly describing, is biofeedback. Biofeedback is some biofeedback
- 39:46Speaker 4: is somewhat unique in that it actually employs self cognition
- 39:51Speaker 4: self cognitive powers of left hemisphere to gain access and
- 39:59Speaker 4: let me see, gain access to such areas of the
- 40:03Speaker 4: right hemispheres, the lower cerebral, motor and sensory cortices, and
- 40:09Speaker 4: assorted pain pleasure centers. Instead of suppressing the left hemisphere
- 40:14Speaker 4: as is done in hypnosis or largely bypassing and ignoring
- 40:19Speaker 4: it as is done in visual transcendental meditation, biofeedback teaches
- 40:24Speaker 4: the left hemisphere first to visualize the desired result and
- 40:30Speaker 4: then to recognize the feelings associated with the experience of
- 40:35Speaker 4: successful right hemisphere access to specific lower cerebral cortex, pain
- 40:40Speaker 4: pleasure or other areas in the manner needed to produce
- 40:45Speaker 4: the desired result. Special self monitoring devices, such as the
- 40:49Speaker 4: digital thermometer are used to inform the left brain when
- 40:53Speaker 4: it succeeds in key the right hemisphere into accessing the
- 40:58Speaker 4: appropriate area. What do you think those wearables on your
- 41:00Speaker 4: risks are doing on this is Once this is done,
- 41:04Speaker 4: the left brain can then repeatedly instruct the right brain
- 41:09Speaker 4: to re establish the pathways involved so as to produce
- 41:12Speaker 4: the same external objective measures of success. In this way,
- 41:17Speaker 4: the pathways are strengthened and emphasized to such an extent
- 41:22Speaker 4: that the left brain consciousness is enabled to access appropriate
- 41:27Speaker 4: areas of the right brain using a conscious demand mode.
- 41:30Speaker 4: For example, if the subject wishes to increase the circulation
- 41:34Speaker 4: in the left leg in order to speed up healing,
- 41:38Speaker 4: they may concentrate with his left brain on achieving that
- 41:42Speaker 4: result while carefully monitoring a digital thermometer connected to the
- 41:47Speaker 4: left leg. When the concentrated effort begins to achieve success,
- 41:51Speaker 4: the digital thermometer will register an increase in the temperature
- 41:55Speaker 4: of the left leg. At that point, the subject can
- 41:57Speaker 4: mentally left brain associate the sensation experience with the result achieved,
- 42:03Speaker 4: and can begin to emphasize by memory recall the same
- 42:07Speaker 4: process to cause its strengthening. By enhanced malignant tumors can
- 42:14Speaker 4: apparently be suppressed and ultimately destroyed physiology or by the
- 42:19Speaker 4: body's pleasure centers can be stimulated and a variety of
- 42:23Speaker 4: specific physiological results may be achieved. In addition, biofeedback may
- 42:28Speaker 4: be used to greatly accelerate achievement of deep meditative states,
- 42:32Speaker 4: particularly for beginners who have no experience in meditative techniques
- 42:37Speaker 4: and whose progress in that methodology is enhanced through effective
- 42:41Speaker 4: visualization and external objective affirmation. Well, one way I can
- 42:46Speaker 4: think of that is by those have you guys ever
- 42:49Speaker 4: seen those mushrooms that get hooked up to the electrodes
- 42:53Speaker 4: and then they start playing music. This kind of thing
- 42:57Speaker 4: is done with biofeedback and meditation, so that they hook
- 43:01Speaker 4: up the EEG to your head, and the more in
- 43:05Speaker 4: tune your your thoughts become, the more positive biofeedback in
- 43:10Speaker 4: your ear holes you get. Right, So it's a it's
- 43:14Speaker 4: a feedback loop. Display of the subjects brainwave pattern on
- 43:18Speaker 4: a Katha ray tube has proven to be laboratory validated
- 43:22Speaker 4: means by which may quickly learn to place themselves profoundly
- 43:26Speaker 4: relaxed states characterized by the sort of quietude and singularity
- 43:31Speaker 4: of mental focus associated with advanced medication Number five gateway
- 43:38Speaker 4: and HEMI sync uh, do you want to take that ethan?
- 43:47Speaker 8: Let's see, let's see are we at five?
- 43:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 43:54Speaker 8: I was going to say that the summation of a
- 43:59Speaker 8: lot of this is to get rid of our own consciousness,
- 44:04Speaker 8: which is in the way a little anecdote which I
- 44:07Speaker 8: think is inspirational of the Buddha. Someone asks him, what
- 44:12Speaker 8: did you gain from meditation? You're teaching this meditation and
- 44:16Speaker 8: what have you gained from it? And he said, I've
- 44:18Speaker 8: gained nothing, but I've lost the fear of death, the
- 44:23Speaker 8: anxiety of life and old age and this and that.
- 44:27Speaker 8: And so he shed all of these problematic anxiety issues
- 44:33Speaker 8: rather than gaining something or pursuing gaining something, and that
- 44:39Speaker 8: way he was able to open up his mind.
- 44:42Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, and you even shed the body. And
- 44:46Speaker 1: they talk about time travel in this even.
- 44:51Speaker 4: Right on the note of biofeedback though, I mean, the
- 44:56Speaker 4: wearables are definitely in line with all of this biofeedback.
- 44:59Speaker 4: I just you know, everybody's putting these things on. They
- 45:02Speaker 4: don't realize that it's a two way street. They can
- 45:04Speaker 4: influence you just as easily with electromagnetic fields as you
- 45:08Speaker 4: could be influencing them with your data. So all they
- 45:11Speaker 4: have to do is introduce a little bit of stimulus,
- 45:13Speaker 4: and then they've got you on the hulk, sort of
- 45:15Speaker 4: like a you know, roach on a strength.
- 45:21Speaker 1: You know.
- 45:21Speaker 8: It's interesting too. A lot of this document as a
- 45:24Speaker 8: whole really knocks materialism like that we're so locked into
- 45:31Speaker 8: as a science approach. This really I think it gets
- 45:39Speaker 8: at a lot of the technical aspects of this Max
- 45:43Speaker 8: Plank quote, which I've noticed the remote viewers refer to
- 45:46Speaker 8: a lot. I'll share before every Sorry, I regard consciousness
- 45:52Speaker 8: as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We
- 45:58Speaker 8: cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything
- 46:04Speaker 8: that we regard as existing postulates consciousness, and the materialism view,
- 46:12Speaker 8: of course, is the complete opposite of that. So I
- 46:16Speaker 8: think this paper kind of just gets at the whole consciousness.
- 46:22Speaker 8: I like the Wu Tang version consciousness rules everything around me.
- 46:31Speaker 8: I'll read.
- 46:33Speaker 2: That's the radio.
- 46:35Speaker 8: No, no, I'm sorry, that was my interjection, but he
- 46:41Speaker 8: stops at postulates consciousness the Max Plank quote. But I
- 46:45Speaker 8: regard consciousness as fundamental is you know, sums it up neatly. Anyway,
- 46:51Speaker 8: So gay Way and HEMI sync. Now that we have
- 46:55Speaker 8: briefly profiled the basic mechanics of the principal techniques for
- 47:00Speaker 8: altering or expanding consciousness, which share some of the objectives
- 47:05Speaker 8: and or methods employed in the Gateway Experience, we may
- 47:09Speaker 8: proceed to focus on what that technique actually involves. Fundamentally,
- 47:15Speaker 8: the Gateway Experience is a training system designed to bring
- 47:21Speaker 8: enhanced strength, focus, and coherence to the amplitude and frequency
- 47:28Speaker 8: of brain wave output between the left and right hemispheres
- 47:33Speaker 8: so as to alter consciousness, moving it outside the physical
- 47:37Speaker 8: sphere so as to ultimately escape even the restrictions of
- 47:41Speaker 8: time and space. The participant then gains access to the
- 47:46Speaker 8: various levels of intuitive knowledge which the universe offers. What
- 47:52Speaker 8: differentiates the Gateway Experience from forms of meditation is its
- 47:57Speaker 8: use of the Hemi sync technique, which is defined as
- 48:02Speaker 8: a monograph by Monroe Institute trainer Militia Melissa Jaeger as
- 48:09Speaker 8: a quote a state of consciousness defined when the eg
- 48:14Speaker 8: patterns of both hemispheres are simultaneously equal in amplitude and frequency.
- 48:24Speaker 8: Although Hemi sink seems to be rather rare and of
- 48:28Speaker 8: only short duration in ordinary human consciousness, Melissa Jaeger states
- 48:35Speaker 8: that quote audio techniques developed by Bob Monroe can induce
- 48:40Speaker 8: and sustain HEMI sink with the Institute's basic Focus three tapes.
- 48:49Speaker 8: She also notes that quote studies conducted by Elmer and
- 48:54Speaker 8: Alice Green at the Meninger Manager Foundation have also shown
- 49:00Speaker 8: that a subject with twenty years of experience in zen
- 49:04Speaker 8: meditation could consistently establish hemy sink at will, sustaining it
- 49:13Speaker 8: for over fifteen minutes. Doctor Stewart Twemlow, a psychiatrist and
- 49:21Speaker 8: research associate of the Monroe Institute, reports that quote, in
- 49:26Speaker 8: our studies of the effect of the Monroe tape system
- 49:31Speaker 8: on brain waves, we have found that the tapes encouraging
- 49:34Speaker 8: the focus encourage the focusing of brain energy. It can
- 49:39Speaker 8: be managed with a light bulb in watts into a
- 49:43Speaker 8: narrower and narrower frequency band. This focusing of energy is
- 49:50Speaker 8: not unlike the yoga concept of one pointedness, which may
- 49:55Speaker 8: translate in Western terms as single mindedness. Unquote. Doctor Twemlow
- 50:03Speaker 8: goes on to observe that as the individual gets into
- 50:06Speaker 8: the tapes beyond Focus three quote, there is a gradual
- 50:12Speaker 8: increase in brain wave size, which is a measure of
- 50:17Speaker 8: brain energy or power, and essentially, I feel like, that's
- 50:25Speaker 8: a long winded way of saying. With this technology and
- 50:28Speaker 8: audio assistance, we can enhance the meditation process and effects
- 50:35Speaker 8: by magni magnitudes of order order of magnitudes. Right. So
- 50:42Speaker 8: something I was thinking about in Oh, please let this
- 50:46Speaker 8: go on. I can say this later.
- 50:47Speaker 4: When it comes to hemi sink and the sensory homunculous,
- 50:51Speaker 4: you have to think that these two things are lick.
- 50:53Speaker 4: So as your ears are taking in these different vibrations
- 50:56Speaker 4: that produce alternate waves of frequency that your your your
- 51:01Speaker 4: mind here is it's stimulating the entire nerve cluster around
- 51:07Speaker 4: those sensory homunculi, right, So both sides of your brain
- 51:12Speaker 4: are then responding to the things that your ears are
- 51:15Speaker 4: hearing in such a way that it creates sort of
- 51:18Speaker 4: like a reciprocal vibration. That's when you can, you know,
- 51:22Speaker 4: create these different things is by synchronizing both hemispheres on
- 51:26Speaker 4: the same wave one, which is rare because we're constantly
- 51:31Speaker 4: in you know, several different frames of mind. I mean,
- 51:33Speaker 4: when do we ever have focused concentration?
- 51:38Speaker 3: Right? Were all in any of these little programs in school?
- 51:44Speaker 4: Oh?
- 51:46Speaker 2: I was, I don't remember any tapes.
- 51:49Speaker 3: I was in one. It was called open doors. I've
- 51:53Speaker 3: heard of that you think about, like the doors of
- 51:55Speaker 3: perception and all that, right, Like it's as yeah, yeah,
- 52:00Speaker 3: and we are in the month of Janice.
- 52:02Speaker 7: It was somebody I knew that I show somebody else
- 52:04Speaker 7: mentioned it in there. I think the Gate program I
- 52:06Speaker 7: saw somebody mentioned in the comments. That's somebody I knew
- 52:09Speaker 7: somebody personally that was going to come on the show
- 52:11Speaker 7: a while ago. But I just I think it just
- 52:13Speaker 7: kind of let the bull drop that they was supposed
- 52:15Speaker 7: to be a gate program and they said this ship.
- 52:18Speaker 2: Was part of it. They were in elementary school listening
- 52:20Speaker 2: to this ship. I was like, what really, Oh that's right.
- 52:25Speaker 3: Yeah, sounded familiar. I was like, dude, because and then
- 52:29Speaker 3: I we had talked about it before, obviously, but I
- 52:33Speaker 3: think I had brought it up in the group chat
- 52:37Speaker 3: that I was in the program or whatever in one
- 52:40Speaker 3: of those little programs that they had in the schools.
- 52:45Speaker 3: Is it my turn to read?
- 52:47Speaker 1: Have you read yet? No? Okay, go ahead, and then
- 52:51Speaker 1: I'll read next. We've skipped you?
- 52:54Speaker 4: Sorry about that?
- 52:55Speaker 3: No, I mean it's fun. It's fun. We're on six.
- 52:59Speaker 1: Yes, I think so.
- 53:01Speaker 2: First laser.
- 53:04Speaker 4: This is really awesome, guys, I like this. I love
- 53:08Speaker 4: seeing how your brains work about this information. This is awesome.
- 53:11Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think this shits really important.
- 53:14Speaker 4: Yeah right.
- 53:16Speaker 3: Melissa Jaeger uses a metaphor to help clarify the process
- 53:20Speaker 3: involved in the use of Hemi sink in the Gateway experience.
- 53:25Speaker 3: She points out that the human mind in its natural
- 53:28Speaker 3: state may be likened to an ordinary lamp, which expends
- 53:33Speaker 3: energy in the form of both heat and light, but
- 53:36Speaker 3: in a chaotic, incoherent way, which diffuses its energy over
- 53:40Speaker 3: a wide area of rather limited debt. On the other hand,
- 53:46Speaker 3: the human mind under the discipline of Hemi Sink acts
- 53:50Speaker 3: after the fashion of a laser beam, which produces a
- 53:54Speaker 3: discipline stream of light. The stream of energy is projected
- 53:58Speaker 3: with total coherence both frequency and amplitude, such that the
- 54:03Speaker 3: surface area of a laser beam contains billions of times
- 54:07Speaker 3: the concentrated energy found in a similar surface area on
- 54:10Speaker 3: the sun. Holy Shit. Gateway assumes that once the frequency
- 54:17Speaker 3: and amplitude of the human brain are rendered coherent, it
- 54:20Speaker 3: is possible to begin accelerating both so that the human
- 54:24Speaker 3: mind is soon resonating at ever higher vibrational levels. The
- 54:29Speaker 3: mind can then bring itself into synchronization with more vibrational,
- 54:34Speaker 3: with more sophisticated and rarefied energy levels in the universe.
- 54:40Speaker 3: The mind, when operating at these increasingly rarefied levels, is
- 54:44Speaker 3: assumed to be capable of processing the information thus received
- 54:49Speaker 3: through the same fundamental matrix by which it makes I'm
- 54:53Speaker 3: losing my place because it's so small, by which it
- 54:56Speaker 3: makes sense of Okay, hold on, let me read that again.
- 55:00Speaker 3: When operating at these increasingly rarefied levels, is assumed to
- 55:04Speaker 3: be capable of processing the information thus received through the
- 55:07Speaker 3: same fundamental matrix by which it makes sense of ordinary
- 55:12Speaker 3: physical sensory input. To achieve meaning in a cognitive context,
- 55:17Speaker 3: it's a long sentence. Such meaning is usually perceived visually.
- 55:23Speaker 11: In the form of symbols ah, but may also be
- 55:27Speaker 11: perceived as astonishing flashes of holistic intuition, or even in
- 55:34Speaker 11: the form of scenarios involving both visual and aural perception.
- 55:39Speaker 3: The mechanics by which the mind exercises the consciousness function
- 55:43Speaker 3: will be addressed in more detailed later in this paper.
- 55:47Speaker 4: We got to get it out record, we got to
- 55:48Speaker 4: get curtain. That's crazy, that would be fucking amazing.
- 55:52Speaker 2: Yeah, look at.
- 55:56Speaker 4: Who I've heard Jarp with kerb the comedian. Yeah yeah,
- 56:04Speaker 4: he's great. He's got his own conspiracy podcast.
- 56:06Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
- 56:12Speaker 1: All right. Oh wait, I'm muted. You guys can hear
- 56:19Speaker 1: me right now?
- 56:20Speaker 2: Ye?
- 56:20Speaker 1: Yes, I should be muted.
- 56:23Speaker 2: But okay, the whole time you're talking about.
- 56:26Speaker 1: You, all right? Section seven Frequency following response. To achieve
- 56:35Speaker 1: synchronization of brain hemispheres, the hemi sync technique takes advantage
- 56:40Speaker 1: of a phenomenon known as the frequency following response, which
- 56:46Speaker 1: means that if a subject here is a sound produced
- 56:48Speaker 1: at a frequency which emulates one of those associated with
- 56:52Speaker 1: the operation of the human brain, the brain will try
- 56:55Speaker 1: to mimic the same frequency pattern by adjusting its brain
- 56:58Speaker 1: wave output. Therefore, if the subject is in a fully
- 57:03Speaker 1: awake state, but here is sound frequencies which approximates brainwave
- 57:07Speaker 1: output at the theta level, the subject's brain will endeavor
- 57:11Speaker 1: to alter its brain wave pattern from normal beta to
- 57:15Speaker 1: the theta level. Since the theta level is associated with sleep,
- 57:20Speaker 1: the subject concerned may progress from a fully awake to
- 57:25Speaker 1: a sleep state, provided that he does not consciously resist
- 57:30Speaker 1: as the brain strives to entrain its wave frequency output
- 57:34Speaker 1: with the one which the person hears. Since these brain
- 57:40Speaker 1: wave frequencies are outside the spectrum of sounds which can
- 57:44Speaker 1: be heard in pure form by the human ear, homy
- 57:47Speaker 1: sync must produce them based on another phenomenon known as
- 57:51Speaker 1: the brain's capacity for deducing beat frequencies. If the human
- 57:55Speaker 1: brain is exposed to one frequency in the left ear,
- 57:58Speaker 1: which is ten hertz below another audible frequency played in
- 58:02Speaker 1: the right ear, rather than hearing either of the two
- 58:05Speaker 1: audible frequencies, the brain chooses to hear the difference between them,
- 58:10Speaker 1: the beat frequency that's availing itself of the FFR phenomenon,
- 58:17Speaker 1: and using the technique of beat frequencies the Gateway system uses,
- 58:21Speaker 1: how you sink? And other audio techniques.
- 58:23Speaker 4: Can I stop you right there?
- 58:25Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 58:25Speaker 4: I thought that's what they were talking about when it
- 58:28Speaker 4: comes to HEMI sink? What were they talking about in
- 58:31Speaker 4: the previous section. If they weren't talking about the resonance
- 58:34Speaker 4: between these two different beats and creating that unifying sound wave,
- 58:43Speaker 4: maybe I just jumped the gun. But you know what
- 58:45Speaker 4: I'm saying, right, because the whole idea behind heavy sink
- 58:49Speaker 4: is that you're creating the two different resident beats and
- 58:52Speaker 4: that it creates a third frequency in the mind that
- 58:55Speaker 4: you hear, but it's not being played right yep.
- 59:01Speaker 1: I think maybe they're just adding that extra detail like
- 59:07Speaker 1: of just how that works, Like if you have one
- 59:09Speaker 1: frequency in one year and another frequency in the other year,
- 59:13Speaker 1: like the brain just cut like cuts the difference between them.
- 59:20Speaker 4: And that's that's where you hear the third sound. That's
- 59:23Speaker 4: that's how you get the different frequencies. They actually have
- 59:25Speaker 4: a lot of different instruments that are based off of that,
- 59:27Speaker 4: like the allows, but a lot of that stuff is
- 59:31Speaker 4: you know, they copied off of you know, these ancient instruments.
- 59:34Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like they're making a
- 59:38Speaker 4: lot of checks that I don't think they can cash.
- 59:41Speaker 4: But I think most kind of picked up on that
- 59:43Speaker 4: by now, you know.
- 59:48Speaker 1: I guess it's just different than like having the same
- 59:53Speaker 1: frequency in both ears.
- 59:58Speaker 4: Right, they're trying to get to that. Yeah, the atmosphere
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: is seeking up. But I think they're problemisic a lot
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: more than they can deliver in a lot of this
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: different amplitude way, you know, because they mentioned amplitude a lot,
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: but I don't think they know what it means.
- 1:00:15Speaker 8: I've always whether I'm ignorant for doing this is probably arguable,
- 1:00:20Speaker 8: but I've always pursued meditation without additives, so that when
- 1:00:25Speaker 8: I saw the sound requirement and headphones deductively, I kind
- 1:00:31Speaker 8: of veered away from it. And any kind of friend
- 1:00:35Speaker 8: I have not No, no, I have not enough. I'm
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: interested in doing so, but I but I wonder, as
- 1:00:44Speaker 8: things this was meant for a military capacity for people
- 1:00:48Speaker 8: to be able to do it rapidly. I wonder if
- 1:00:52Speaker 8: it's necessarily the best thing for a person. I questioned,
- 1:00:57Speaker 8: if you know, yeah, you're going at one hundred or
- 1:01:01Speaker 8: ninety out of nowhere, you might you might? Did you
- 1:01:05Speaker 8: here because for killing?
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: Did you hear Natalie Spearman's analysis of her experience with
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: the god helmet, Because that's what they're talking about with
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: the god helmet. This, this whole heavy sink is part
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: of the god helmet format. It's the method.
- 1:01:20Speaker 8: Well, it reminds me too when when we were a
- 1:01:25Speaker 8: Nick and I and maybe headless too of a couple
- 1:01:28Speaker 8: other people when we were looking into those the murdering
- 1:01:34Speaker 8: like uh, transsexual group from the Bay Area that were
- 1:01:38Speaker 8: running around and they had all this technology and thank you,
- 1:01:44Speaker 8: they had all this technology in relation to activating the
- 1:01:48Speaker 8: HEMI sink and they didn't seem to stable either. Uh
- 1:01:52Speaker 8: So it seems like it's uh, you know, practiced among
- 1:01:58Speaker 8: a few people, especially those that are leaning towards the technocracy.
- 1:02:04Speaker 8: In these guys case, they were leaning towards the techno god.
- 1:02:07Speaker 8: Even they were a little loopy obviously, But there is
- 1:02:11Speaker 8: an idea in Taichi I wanted to share. We always
- 1:02:16Speaker 8: hear about how we only use eight percent of our
- 1:02:18Speaker 8: brain right well, in reflect to meditation, we also, I
- 1:02:26Speaker 8: would argue, only use eight percent of our body potential.
- 1:02:30Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean we need to go to the gym,
- 1:02:33Speaker 8: but just this mind body connection that is reflected in
- 1:02:39Speaker 8: this document is something that we are inhibited to use
- 1:02:44Speaker 8: as much. And I would say, if we could increase
- 1:02:46Speaker 8: the percentage of that, will we'll really tap in, so
- 1:02:50Speaker 8: to speak.
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: So I have a question, are we on the verge
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: of a side tech revolution where there will be technology
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: lgy that can amp up SIGH abilities long enough to
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: maybe make a big bank robbery or I don't know,
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: hack somebody's account, take all of their crypto. Are we
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: on a side tech revolution tip that could be a
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: whole different thing. That's happening here. I mean, that's what
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: they're talking about. It's like, all these things can be induced.
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: So what are you trying to induce? You know, is
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: there a power that's deployed with this. I mean, that's
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: an interesting question.
- 1:03:30Speaker 8: It makes me think too, like if that does tend
- 1:03:34Speaker 8: to be a big problem, what would the solution be?
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: Microchip would be right, well, in.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Two they would be able to I mean, I know
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: it's neural link. I remember when that came out and
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: reading like that eighty page document. You know, you would
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: be able to share bodily sensations with other people and
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: memories and things that you've seen and stuff like that.
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: So I mean you could probably like induce like a
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: Kondolini state or like any of these kinds of states,
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: just mechanically through that. I also wanted to say that, No,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: I don't remember what else I was gonna say. I
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: feel you, but h yeah, maybe it'll come back to me.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: Oh no, okay, yeah, I do remember. I feel like
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: with the Zizians, like I can see people going crazy,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: like if they are like using certain effects to like
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: bypass the left side of the brain and they're just
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: going straight into the subconscious and programming things. I mean,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: if you're not careful about what you're programming into there,
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: you could probably mess your brain up.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: I totally agree.
- 1:05:03Speaker 7: I think if you look at like even when we
- 1:05:05Speaker 7: covered and like covered what they were even like into
- 1:05:09Speaker 7: with the brain shit, and then just look at the
- 1:05:12Speaker 7: stuff they got caught with and some of the drugs
- 1:05:15Speaker 7: that these things these people were taking, Like what do
- 1:05:19Speaker 7: you expect you're gonna have a crazy motherfucker.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: At some point?
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Well, and two it's like, I mean that's where so
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: many cathonics themes come out, where like if your subconscious
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: patterns are like corrupted or confused or there's a gap there,
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: like that's where our fears and like confusing like imagery
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: can come about, like nightmares and all sorts of those
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: fearful kind of things, scary experiences sometimes, I think, even
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: like hallucinations and stuff.
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: Yeah, and even without these like mechanical enhancements, if you will,
- 1:06:11Speaker 8: there's warnings that come with definitely Chi gung and I
- 1:06:15Speaker 8: don't know about yoga so much, and definitely not so
- 1:06:18Speaker 8: much taichi, but there's warnings that you can get chi
- 1:06:21Speaker 8: madness essentially right just from meditating in the kind of
- 1:06:26Speaker 8: wrong course if you will.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 1:06:33Speaker 4: Interesting, I just I keep coming back to the idea
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: that now this stuff is public. So what happened after
- 1:06:40Speaker 4: they made chad GPT public? Right? What happened after they
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: made all of this military technology that created AI public?
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: What did they do? Well? Then they started an AI
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: arms race? Right now, this stuff has been public for
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: a while now, a couple of decades. You don't think
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: that there hasn't been a pi ar AI arms race
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes when it comes to studies
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: like this, Oh yeah, Like what are we actually looking at?
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: This is like forty years behind the times, and we're
- 1:07:17Speaker 4: talking about a lot of compounding technology and techniques. How
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: many different new propaganda techniques have been developed on the Internet.
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: Do you guys remember when ASMR was not a thing,
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: just didn't exist, Right, This is a whole different way
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: that they have. We're approaching your brain and getting it
- 1:07:40Speaker 4: to think certain thoughts. I think there's a PI arms
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: race and stuff like this is reflective of what's actually
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: going on maybe forty years ago.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: No, there's people that walk around today.
- 1:07:52Speaker 7: If they heard HEMI synk, they think some shit, not
- 1:07:55Speaker 7: even believing really, and.
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: We're not even in the need of it, because at
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: some point they're talking about leaving your body, talking to
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: other intelligences and basically crossing the abyss. Even it's kind
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: of crazy, okay, So let's see where was I. Thus
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: availing itself of the FFR phenomenon and using the technique
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: of beat frequencies, the Gateway system uses hemi sync and
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: other audio techniques employing the FFR phenomenon to introduce a
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: variety of frequencies which are played at a virtually subliminal,
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: marginally audible level. The objective is to relax the left
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: hemisphere of the brain, place the physical body in a
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: virtual sleep state, and bring the left and right hemispheres
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: into coherence under conditions designed to promote the production of
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: ever higher amplitude and frequency of brainwave output. Audible and
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: perhaps subliminal suggestions by Bob Monroe accompany the various brainwave frequencies,
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: which are sometimes rolled in together with other sounds such
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: as sea surf, to mask the sound frequencies where desirable.
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: In this way, Gateway endeavors to provide the subject with
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: the tools by which he may alter his consciousness based
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: on his own volition over time. Through the repetitive use
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: of the tapes so as to access through intuitive means,
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: new categories of information not available to ordinary consciousness.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: All right, I'll take over the right role of resonance.
- 1:09:53Speaker 7: However, brain coherence through entrainment to beat frequencies it used
- 1:10:00Speaker 7: to via stereo headphones is only part of the reason
- 1:10:03Speaker 7: why the gateway system works. It is also designed to
- 1:10:06Speaker 7: achieve the physical quietude characteristic of deep transcendental meditative states,
- 1:10:12Speaker 7: which brings about a complete alteration of the fundamental resonance
- 1:10:16Speaker 7: pattern associated with the sound frequencies produced by the human body. Yoga,
- 1:10:22Speaker 7: zen or transcendental meditation, if practiced long enough, will produce
- 1:10:26Speaker 7: a change in the sound frequency with which the human
- 1:10:30Speaker 7: heart resonates through the entire body. According to Bentov, this
- 1:10:35Speaker 7: change is This change in resonance results from elimination of
- 1:10:38Speaker 7: what the medical profession calls the bifurcation echo, so that
- 1:10:44Speaker 7: the sound of the heartbeat can move synchron synchronosis.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: Well, fucking fuck that word.
- 1:10:51Speaker 7: Up and down the circulatory system in harmonious resonance approximately
- 1:10:56Speaker 7: seven times a second. Benton describes the role played by
- 1:11:01Speaker 7: the bifurcation echo as follows. When the left ventricle of
- 1:11:06Speaker 7: the heart ejects blood. The order being elastic, balloons out
- 1:11:11Speaker 7: just beyond the valve and causes a pressure pulse to
- 1:11:14Speaker 7: travel down along the A order. When the pressure pulse
- 1:11:18Speaker 7: reaches the bifurcation in the lower sandom in the lower abdomen,
- 1:11:24Speaker 7: which is where the aorder forks in two to go
- 1:11:27Speaker 7: into the legs, part of the pressure pulse rebounds and
- 1:11:30Speaker 7: starts traveling up the A order. If in the meantime
- 1:11:34Speaker 7: the heart ejects more blood and a new pressure pulse
- 1:11:37Speaker 7: is traveling down, these two pressure points will eventually collide
- 1:11:42Speaker 7: somewhere along the order and produce an interference pattern. By
- 1:11:47Speaker 7: placing the body in a sleep like state, the gateway
- 1:11:49Speaker 7: tapes achieve the same goal as meditation in that it
- 1:11:53Speaker 7: places the body in such a profoundly lacked state that
- 1:11:57Speaker 7: the bifurcation echoes slowly fades away as the heart lessens
- 1:12:01Speaker 7: the forest in frequency with which it pushes blood into
- 1:12:05Speaker 7: the order. The result is a regular rhythmic sine wave
- 1:12:09Speaker 7: pattern of sound which echoes throughout the body and rises up,
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: rises up into the head and sustained residence.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: That's interesting.
- 1:12:19Speaker 7: The amplitude of this sine wave pattern one measured with
- 1:12:23Speaker 7: a sensitive seismograph type instrument is about three times the
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: average of the sound volume produced by the heart when
- 1:12:30Speaker 7: it is operating normally. If you want it, you want
- 1:12:34Speaker 7: me to read the next one, or just somebody else
- 1:12:35Speaker 7: want to go?
- 1:12:36Speaker 4: I got it. If you want me to, I'll bet
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: the last time. Thomas turn Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: We're gonna go at nine. Brain stimulation.
- 1:12:52Speaker 3: All right, so uh brain stimulation. Ben Tom's biomedical model
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: shows that this resonance is of considerable importance since it
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: is all since it is directly transmitted to and impacts
- 1:13:06Speaker 3: upon the brain. The resulting vibration is received and transmitted
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: into the brain itself via the fluid filled third and
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: left ventricles located above the brain stem. An electromagnetic pulse
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: is then generated, which stimulates the brain to raise the
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: amplitude and frequency of brain wave output, just as doctor
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: Twimlow observed in his research on the effects of the
- 1:13:33Speaker 3: hemicink tapes. Also, the brain is contained in a tight
- 1:13:38Speaker 3: membrane called the dual, which is in turned cushioned by
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: a thin layer of fluid located between it and the skull.
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: As the coherent resonance produced by the human heart, in
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: a state of profound relaxation, reaches the fluid layers surrounding
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: the brain. It sets up a rhythmic pattern that's cool,
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: in which the brain moves up and down approximately zero
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: point zero zero five to zero point zero one zero
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: millimeters and a continuous pattern. The self reinforcing character of
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: resonant behavior accounts for the body's ability to sustain this
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: movement despite the mineral level of energy involved. The minimal
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: level of energy involved. In this way, the entire body,
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: based on its own, based on its own microemotion, functions
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: as a tuned vibrational system which transfers energy in a
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: range of between six point eight and seven point five
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: herts into the Earth's ionosphere cavity, which itself resonates at
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: about seven to seven point five herts. Of this process,
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: Bentov states, this is occurring at a very long wavelength
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: of about forty thousand kilometers or just about deep. Is
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: that kilometers? Please tell me it is? Is there another
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: measurement for it? Okay? Kill, okay, sorry, I didn't know
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: there was another. I want to make sure I got
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: everything right, and I can't do it. I can't do
- 1:15:10Speaker 3: a Russian accent or just about the perimeter of the planet.
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: In other words, the signal from the movement of our
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: bodies will travel around the world in about one seventh
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: of second through the electrostatic field in which we are ambitted.
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: Such a long wave link knows no obstacles and its
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: strength does not inunate. And then I can't I can't
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: say that with.
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: The Russian.
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: Attenuate much over long distance. Okay, I can't do anymore. Guys. Naturally,
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: it will go through just about anything metal, concrete, water,
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: in the fields making up our bodies. It is the
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: ideal medium for conveying a telepathic signal.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: So we can send a signal out and they'll travel
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: around the world in about one seventh of a second.
- 1:16:04Speaker 3: Verty fucking cool. And we don't know stuff like this,
- 1:16:06Speaker 3: you know, like this isn't well.
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: The resident frequency again, it's like billiard balls. So you're
- 1:16:13Speaker 4: not talking about having that much amplitude, right, is right,
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: But it's a very small amount of output over time.
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: That is a huge thing, especially when you're talking about
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: cosmic radiation. So this is why I.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: Give can you build that output?
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: Yes, yes, through resident frequencies that's what they're talking about.
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: Throughout this thing. You can create these.
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: Oh they also increase the decibel like they I forget
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: what they hook up to people, But they will actually
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: increase your decibel output.
- 1:16:46Speaker 4: It's just feedback loops.
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: I'm going to finish this. Consequently, the Gateway process is
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: designed to rather rapidly induce a state of profound calm
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: within the nervous system and to significantly lower blood pressure
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: to calls the circulatory system, skeleton, and all other physical
- 1:17:04Speaker 3: organ systems to begin vibrating coherently at approximately seven to
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: seven point five cycles per second. The resulting resonance sets
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: up a regular repetitive sound wave prop which propa, which
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: propagates in consonance with the electrostatic field of the earth.
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: A lot of big words for me. I'm with the
- 1:17:27Speaker 3: public schools. I say this all the time.
- 1:17:30Speaker 4: The reason why I was, the reason why I was
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: insisting he used a Russian accent is because of the
- 1:17:39Speaker 4: book Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. So this was
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: actually the start of the remote viewing movement was Psychic
- 1:17:49Speaker 4: Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. So the CIA read that book,
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: which was based off of a lot of you know,
- 1:17:59Speaker 4: I guess would say secret agents that couldn't get their
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: stuff up to the top brass. So they published a
- 1:18:07Speaker 4: book about all of the things that Russians were doing
- 1:18:11Speaker 4: with psychic research in English, and then that program created
- 1:18:19Speaker 4: a psychic's arms race in America to produce the remote
- 1:18:24Speaker 4: viewers that you know of today, including Joe McGonagall. So
- 1:18:28Speaker 4: the Russians kind of started the whole thing moving, but
- 1:18:31Speaker 4: we kind of give credit to ourselves and our Cia,
- 1:18:35Speaker 4: even though it was the Russians that started the psychical
- 1:18:38Speaker 4: research that has produced all of this stuff that we're
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: reading right now, within very very low amount of time.
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: We got basically cut off of the psychic research in
- 1:18:50Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five. That was it. There hasn't been anything
- 1:18:54Speaker 4: else in the psychic research space except for one thing,
- 1:18:59Speaker 4: which is the autistic kids. It's the only scientific research
- 1:19:04Speaker 4: that they've published about psychical research since nineteen ninety five,
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: which is strange. If you ask me, it's really interesting.
- 1:19:16Speaker 8: And actually bentov I was going to say he was
- 1:19:19Speaker 8: check and he had a really successful business on top
- 1:19:26Speaker 8: of his interest in consciousness. His business now is a
- 1:19:30Speaker 8: billion dollar medical industry business and rabbit hole of his
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: existence in life. He died in a plane crash, So
- 1:19:42Speaker 8: and just one.
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: Of those A lot of them do man, Yeah.
- 1:19:46Speaker 4: Surprise, surprise, all right. Number ten, Energy and trainment. As
- 1:19:53Speaker 4: the body is turning into a coherent oscillator vibrating in
- 1:19:57Speaker 4: harmony with the surrounding electionctro electrostatic medium, the specific exercises
- 1:20:05Speaker 4: included in the gateway tapes enjoy the participant to build
- 1:20:09Speaker 4: up the energy field surrounding his body, presumably by using
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: energy from the Earth's field, which the body is now
- 1:20:20Speaker 4: in training because of its ability to resonate with it.
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: This puts the body's energy field into homogeneity with the
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: surrounding environment and promotes movement of the seat of consciousness
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: into the surrounding environment. Arely in response to the fact
- 1:20:37Speaker 4: that the two electromagnetic medians are now a single energy continuum.
- 1:20:44Speaker 4: Have you guys noticed how they've got a dearth of
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: vocabulary when it comes to the idea of these auras,
- 1:20:52Speaker 4: they don't really have the vocabulary to talk about what
- 1:20:55Speaker 4: they're seeing. Thus, the same process which moves the brain
- 1:21:01Speaker 4: into focus coherent steadily at steadily higher levels of frequency
- 1:21:06Speaker 4: in amplitude so as to train analogous frequencies in the
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: universe for data collection, also promotes enhancement of bodily energy
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: levels to a point adequate to permit the subject to
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: experience an out of body movement, which he is ready
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: to do so. More will be said about this topic later.
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: In addition, this is the big sales pitch that Monroe
- 1:21:34Speaker 4: was making to the CIA, is that he can get
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: people out of body and using their entire sensory frequency
- 1:21:40Speaker 4: to start looking at stuff anyways. In addition, by resonating
- 1:21:44Speaker 4: with the Earth's electromagnetic sphere, the human body creates a
- 1:21:49Speaker 4: surprisingly powerful carrier wave to assist the mind in communication
- 1:21:55Speaker 4: activity with other human minds summarily too. So just one
- 1:21:59Speaker 4: more point, Robert Monroe said that I can pull all
- 1:22:04Speaker 4: of your senses out of your body into this this
- 1:22:07Speaker 4: field that has a silver cord going back to your
- 1:22:12Speaker 4: physical body. That's his sales pitch to all of these
- 1:22:17Speaker 4: remote viewers is that now you can have full body
- 1:22:20Speaker 4: sensory analysis. That did not work out every single time.
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: I don't want nobody touching my silver cord, dude.
- 1:22:28Speaker 4: Well, again, like the remote viewers would see things, but
- 1:22:32Speaker 4: they wouldn't be out of body and thinking of themselves
- 1:22:36Speaker 4: into a different carrier as they're seeing it right. So
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: when me and Nick did the whole you know, remote
- 1:22:44Speaker 4: viewing episode, neither one of us was thinking about projecting
- 1:22:47Speaker 4: our spirit bodies to see something. We were just seeing it.
- 1:22:51Speaker 4: That's a difference between what Monroe's offering and the sort
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: of pictorial reference material that remote viewing was offering at
- 1:23:01Speaker 4: the time, right, which is it's like flipping through photos.
- 1:23:05Speaker 4: We're not talking about being outside of the body and
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: keeping track of all of those other senses. It's just
- 1:23:11Speaker 4: looking through photos. That's what remote viewing is versus Bob
- 1:23:15Speaker 4: Monroe's version, which is out of body experiences still a
- 1:23:21Speaker 4: perception issue.
- 1:23:26Speaker 8: It's really interesting the remote viewing, where it comes from.
- 1:23:31Speaker 8: I think they even still kind of debate on where
- 1:23:35Speaker 8: it comes from, how which way it works, and sometimes
- 1:23:37Speaker 8: for some people it works different manners they do. I've
- 1:23:41Speaker 8: noticed a lot of times describe it as a martial
- 1:23:46Speaker 8: art and a physical aptitude, a physical thing, and one
- 1:23:51Speaker 8: of the things they talk about in suggestion. I think
- 1:23:55Speaker 8: this works for intuition in general too. Don't to use nouns,
- 1:24:01Speaker 8: use describer words, and really tensile kind of concepts, really
- 1:24:07Speaker 8: bodily sensation ideas perfect.
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: So please tell us what were you going to say, no,
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: this is my exaltation. Do you Why aren't you doing
- 1:24:23Speaker 4: like tai chi lessons? You could do that on YouTube
- 1:24:26Speaker 4: and just monetize your stuff. I all watch it every
- 1:24:31Speaker 4: day and this is a daily practice that we're talking about, right.
- 1:24:35Speaker 8: Sure, Sure, tai chi is really difficult to share, you know,
- 1:24:40Speaker 8: in this world. I think people don't want to take
- 1:24:44Speaker 8: that responsibility. And it's well, I think that people you
- 1:24:51Speaker 8: know want to do it, but do they actually do it?
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:24:54Speaker 8: It's like working out. It's it's not something that anyone
- 1:25:00Speaker 8: but like obsessive compulsive, you know, people really take on
- 1:25:05Speaker 8: to learn because it's it can be difficult, and it
- 1:25:08Speaker 8: usually kind of turns the people off because it's difficult.
- 1:25:12Speaker 4: I've done so many chigong programs on YouTube, and there's
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: so many thick because I don't know the person. I
- 1:25:20Speaker 4: know you. I want to do your tai chi program,
- 1:25:23Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:25:25Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I just I just want it is one
- 1:25:29Speaker 8: the Cult Research Institute, the Taichi article uh and I
- 1:25:35Speaker 8: have accompanying video and it's got four very simple movements
- 1:25:41Speaker 8: or postures, and and i'd be I will share more headless. Absolutely,
- 1:25:47Speaker 8: I will I will, at your request, share more.
- 1:25:50Speaker 2: For sure.
- 1:25:51Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for, and it's so helpful. It's
- 1:25:56Speaker 4: so helpful.
- 1:25:58Speaker 8: In regards to I saw this, there's this advertisement for
- 1:26:05Speaker 8: taichi workouts to become muscular. Well, you could use tai
- 1:26:09Speaker 8: chi or chi gung to become muscular. But again, it's
- 1:26:13Speaker 8: more about enhancing what you already have. Enhancing your circulatory
- 1:26:18Speaker 8: and nervous system. Opening your nervous system up makes your
- 1:26:22Speaker 8: strength actually increased. Right, you're you, You're really mostly we're
- 1:26:28Speaker 8: functioning like in a dream right where we can't run
- 1:26:31Speaker 8: as fast as we want to. Right, Well, when your
- 1:26:34Speaker 8: nervous system opens up, you start to really be able
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: to function higher.
- 1:26:40Speaker 4: Embracing the hero.
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: I would be interested.
- 1:26:44Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll definitely, definitely I'll make I'll make more videos
- 1:26:51Speaker 8: for you guys.
- 1:26:51Speaker 7: For sure, I would probably try it. That's no, no,
- 1:26:58Speaker 7: because I have Actually I was told. I was like, ooh,
- 1:27:01Speaker 7: I actually would check out that shit. I was like,
- 1:27:03Speaker 7: I should ask Ethan what he would suggest.
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: That would only make sense. It only makes sense if
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: you put it out.
- 1:27:09Speaker 8: I would just use your shit and and yeah, headless,
- 1:27:12Speaker 8: you're right. It is an everyday practice. Even you can
- 1:27:16Speaker 8: begin with the most basic thing. They mentioned zen meditation
- 1:27:22Speaker 8: in this already, which is tai chi chi young. In
- 1:27:26Speaker 8: those days, anyway, you can just do the universal pillar,
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: which is just a standing posture, and you create a
- 1:27:35Speaker 8: vessel thereby to hold GI more efficiently. So stillness is
- 1:27:41Speaker 8: zen meditation. It's the originals zen that transformed into the
- 1:27:47Speaker 8: Buddhist meditation that we know so well. So it can
- 1:27:52Speaker 8: be really simple, but it's a daily practice, and it's
- 1:27:56Speaker 8: very much like adding a telephone book paper every day,
- 1:28:03Speaker 8: and eventually you have the resilience of a telephone book.
- 1:28:07Speaker 8: That's how they kind of describe the quality of cheat
- 1:28:10Speaker 8: building and so on.
- 1:28:12Speaker 4: So appreciate it with you, because I think between the
- 1:28:18Speaker 4: three of us we could probably come up with a
- 1:28:20Speaker 4: really badass, magical, cheap program. I think that would be amazing.
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: I think you wanted to say something. I'm sorry, Ethan,
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: go ahead.
- 1:28:29Speaker 2: No, no, I was gonna say something.
- 1:28:36Speaker 3: We all we all were going to say something.
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: All right, well where were you?
- 1:28:46Speaker 8: Okay? So should we should I continue reading?
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: You're going to continue. I don't know if Aarons wanted
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: to say what she wanted to say, but.
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: I guess oh, no, no, I didn't have anything to say. Sorry,
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: I thought I'm just fidgety. I'm a fidgety person.
- 1:29:00Speaker 8: I mean, well, I'm now inspired by your inspiration to
- 1:29:07Speaker 8: learn taichi. I always feed off of that inspiration and
- 1:29:10Speaker 8: to that, I was thinking. People think meditation takes time.
- 1:29:16Speaker 8: Learning takes time. Taichi takes time. Meditation makes time. You
- 1:29:23Speaker 8: are more efficient throughout the day and get things done
- 1:29:29Speaker 8: when you meditate. Right, So you actually make time when
- 1:29:32Speaker 8: you meditate. Just to give people some inspiration that that
- 1:29:36Speaker 8: I'm feeling now, okay, so consciousness and energy. I'll try
- 1:29:40Speaker 8: not to stumble.
- 1:29:42Speaker 1: I want to say something really quick. He likes my shirt,
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: not your shirt.
- 1:29:51Speaker 4: Slam dunk.
- 1:29:52Speaker 7: You know what I wanted to ask you, Ethan, because
- 1:29:54Speaker 7: I think you mentioned some kind of like pillar meditation.
- 1:29:57Speaker 7: Did you ever did you ever hear of visual regard
- 1:30:00Speaker 7: Israel Regardi's middle pillar?
- 1:30:03Speaker 2: Have you ever tried that meditation?
- 1:30:06Speaker 8: Say that again? You broke up on.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: I think it's Israel regarding who came up with it?
- 1:30:10Speaker 11: Uh?
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: The middle pillar? Yeah, you should check that out. It's
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: a meditation.
- 1:30:15Speaker 7: It's pretty I loved it.
- 1:30:19Speaker 8: I think it's a middle pillar meditation. He calls it.
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's called the middle pillar.
- 1:30:23Speaker 7: Yeah, and it uses like five out of the seven
- 1:30:26Speaker 7: chakras too as as you go down.
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:30:28Speaker 3: But it's.
- 1:30:33Speaker 4: Because I think between the three of us we can
- 1:30:35Speaker 4: come up with something really cool when it comes to
- 1:30:37Speaker 4: like body formations and chigong and tight sheet energy. I
- 1:30:44Speaker 4: just think it would be it's necessary we all think
- 1:30:47Speaker 4: about that we're lacking a body consciousness. Like, you know,
- 1:30:51Speaker 4: it's kind of embarrassing to say, but we don't have
- 1:30:54Speaker 4: body consciousness. We're all up in our heads, you know.
- 1:30:57Speaker 7: I'm even wondered if that's even part of like doing
- 1:30:59Speaker 7: rituals was just a whole body and stuff too as well.
- 1:31:03Speaker 7: Even you start doing all these poses and ship and
- 1:31:06Speaker 7: it's like, you know, there's gotta be multiple reasons you're
- 1:31:08Speaker 7: doing it.
- 1:31:09Speaker 8: And actually there was a whole series of experiments that
- 1:31:13Speaker 8: the US government did and and probably the Soviets too,
- 1:31:18Speaker 8: in regards to the physicality of remote viewing, and they
- 1:31:23Speaker 8: were trying to figure out where it came from, and
- 1:31:26Speaker 8: they would they went about bringing people into minds, into caves,
- 1:31:31Speaker 8: into what are those rooms where no electromagnetic frequency can
- 1:31:38Speaker 8: get in skiffs, all these different all these different places
- 1:31:43Speaker 8: that blocked off all these different energies. The last one
- 1:31:47Speaker 8: that they were trying to figure out was E l F,
- 1:31:51Speaker 8: which was a real big concept during this time period too.
- 1:31:55Speaker 8: Uh the ultra low frequency is it something low frequency?
- 1:32:02Speaker 8: And they had to go in a submarine to cancel
- 1:32:07Speaker 8: out the ELF and and so they actually I think
- 1:32:12Speaker 8: it was left undetermined through all these tests on the
- 1:32:15Speaker 8: physicality of the vibration, they could still couldn't track it.
- 1:32:20Speaker 4: Sounds like they're describing a magical ritual.
- 1:32:25Speaker 8: Well, yeah, and they were. It was. It was intertwined, right,
- 1:32:29Speaker 8: I mean, though all of this stuff is intertwined. And
- 1:32:32Speaker 8: there's that missing page of this series that came out
- 1:32:38Speaker 8: many years later that kind of we used it all
- 1:32:40Speaker 8: together fine later nice, Okay, So we're i'm I'm, I'm babbling.
- 1:32:48Speaker 4: From the magician number eleven.
- 1:32:52Speaker 8: So, uh, consciousness and energy. Before our explanation can proceed
- 1:32:57Speaker 8: any further, it is essential to defind the mechanism by
- 1:33:01Speaker 8: which the human mind exercises the function known as consciousness,
- 1:33:07Speaker 8: and to describe the way in which that consciousness operates
- 1:33:12Speaker 8: to deduce meaning from the stimuli which it receives. To
- 1:33:17Speaker 8: do this, excuse me, We will first consider the fundamental
- 1:33:21Speaker 8: character of the material world in which we have our
- 1:33:25Speaker 8: physical existence. In order to accurately perceive the raw stuff
- 1:33:31Speaker 8: with which our consciousness must work. The first point which
- 1:33:37Speaker 8: needs to be made is that the two terms matter
- 1:33:41Speaker 8: and energy tend to be misleading if taken to indicate
- 1:33:46Speaker 8: two distinctly different states of existence in the physical world
- 1:33:51Speaker 8: that we know it. Indeed, if the term matter is
- 1:33:56Speaker 8: taken to mean solid substance, as opposed to energy, which
- 1:34:01Speaker 8: is understood to mean a force of some sort, then
- 1:34:05Speaker 8: the use of the former is entirely misleading. Science now
- 1:34:11Speaker 8: knows that both the electrons which spin in the energy
- 1:34:17Speaker 8: field located around the nucleus of the atom and the
- 1:34:20Speaker 8: nucleus itself are made up of nothing more than oscillating
- 1:34:26Speaker 8: energy grids. Solid matter, in the strict construction of the term,
- 1:34:32Speaker 8: simply does not exist. Rather, atomic structure is composed of
- 1:34:39Speaker 8: oscillating energy grids, which is that is a wild concept
- 1:34:43Speaker 8: excuse my interjection, surrounded by other oscillating energy grids which
- 1:34:49Speaker 8: orbit as at extraordinarily high speeds. In his book Stalking
- 1:34:55Speaker 8: the Wild Pendulum, izok Bentov gives the following figures. The
- 1:35:03Speaker 8: energy grid which composes the nucleus of the atom vibrates
- 1:35:09Speaker 8: at approximately ten What would that number be twenty two
- 1:35:14Speaker 8: squared types. How would you say that ten? Twenty two squared.
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: Second?
- 1:35:23Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you. Ten to the twenty second power
- 1:35:26Speaker 8: kersh hurts, which means ten, followed by twenty two zeros
- 1:35:32Speaker 8: at seventy degrees fairy night, and atom oscillates at the
- 1:35:36Speaker 8: rate of ten to the fifteenth hurts. An entire molecule
- 1:35:43Speaker 8: composed of a number of atoms bound together in a
- 1:35:47Speaker 8: single energy field vibrates in a rage of ten to
- 1:35:52Speaker 8: the ninth hurts. A live human cell vibrates at approximately
- 1:35:59Speaker 8: ten to the third hurts. The point to be made
- 1:36:04Speaker 8: is that the entire human being, brain, consciousness, and all
- 1:36:09Speaker 8: is like the universe which surrounds him, nothing more or
- 1:36:14Speaker 8: less than an extraordinarily complex system of energy fields. The
- 1:36:20Speaker 8: so called states of matter are actually variances in the
- 1:36:26Speaker 8: state of energy, and human consciousness is a function of
- 1:36:31Speaker 8: the interaction of energy in two opposite states motion versus
- 1:36:39Speaker 8: rest or. We could say the two pillars. If you
- 1:36:42Speaker 8: get esoteric, excuse me in a manner described in the
- 1:36:46Speaker 8: following paragraph. I mean that brings together so many esoterica.
- 1:36:52Speaker 4: Did he just say that the two fundamental primary polarities
- 1:36:58Speaker 4: are uh, tension and release, because I say that all
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: the time.
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: There you have.
- 1:37:10Speaker 8: And and that's a very tai chi idea too. The
- 1:37:13Speaker 8: yin and yang represents that the four humors almost have
- 1:37:17Speaker 8: that too, right, right, And and I would say that
- 1:37:22Speaker 8: relaxation and tension or as you as you put it,
- 1:37:26Speaker 8: release and.
- 1:37:26Speaker 4: What tension and release? So it's.
- 1:37:32Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah you can. That's actually a tai chi exercise
- 1:37:37Speaker 8: is just stimulating tension and relaxation going going from uh,
- 1:37:45Speaker 8: these extremes.
- 1:37:47Speaker 4: Not know how much force? How much force am I
- 1:37:51Speaker 4: placing against my finger? Do you know how much focus
- 1:37:56Speaker 4: and force I'm actually placing against my finger? Can anybody
- 1:38:00Speaker 4: actually make sure the conscious energy that is placed in
- 1:38:04Speaker 4: one single centimeter? This is the fundamental issue when it
- 1:38:08Speaker 4: comes to meditation, is what are thoughts made of? Can
- 1:38:12Speaker 4: you concentrate thoughts?
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: Yeah? It makes me think of that X post that
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: I put out recently that like consciousness is alive and
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: it's it animates itself and it brings itself into form.
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean thought on its own without a brain,
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, seems like you need a brain.
- 1:38:49Speaker 4: What our spirits.
- 1:38:51Speaker 8: We do need a brain, and we we also at
- 1:38:55Speaker 8: the same time require it. We need to shed a
- 1:38:58Speaker 8: lot of its compound interest.
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: Right Like.
- 1:39:03Speaker 8: Generally we're kind of wired to think about really survival
- 1:39:08Speaker 8: based negative stuff even, right, so, just rewiring things to
- 1:39:13Speaker 8: think about, you know, higher ideas, which it's just crazy
- 1:39:19Speaker 8: to read the military writing in with all this esoteric stuff.
- 1:39:26Speaker 4: Military concepts. Sorry, hellis, I was going to say, military
- 1:39:31Speaker 4: concepts on states of consciousness is a really interesting concept,
- 1:39:36Speaker 4: especially for me who has been through basic training. So
- 1:39:40Speaker 4: I understand how the military thinks about the recruits, right
- 1:39:46Speaker 4: They think of you in a certain way. They don't
- 1:39:49Speaker 4: necessarily know what you're thinking back at them, what this is.
- 1:39:54Speaker 4: It seems like they're looking at ways of trying to
- 1:39:57Speaker 4: figure that out because they really don't understand what you're
- 1:40:01Speaker 4: thinking back at them, and so they're trying to get
- 1:40:05Speaker 4: in touch with that and they really don't have the
- 1:40:08Speaker 4: vocabulary to express it because they've kind of been shutting
- 1:40:13Speaker 4: it down all these years. You're not allowed to say
- 1:40:16Speaker 4: these things.
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: Well, they also sorry, no, go ahead. Well they're also
- 1:40:23Speaker 1: building up to this part in the document where they
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: talk about how when you leave the body, you're just
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: like an intelligence, and so you don't have a brain,
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: so you can't really store the things that like you
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: learn out there, but you do. You kind of exist
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: as the intelligence that you have before you leave the body.
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: But you yeah, you can't like really learn as just
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: an intelligence, but you can still like communicate with like
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: these other beings and stuff like that. Basically, it's like
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: it's a lot like kind of neo Platonic ideas of like,
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: you know, these higher beings that they don't have bodies,
- 1:41:17Speaker 1: and so they don't have like they're more mechanical, they
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: don't have.
- 1:41:22Speaker 4: Do you know about the cup of Letha? No, So
- 1:41:27Speaker 4: Hygiea is supposed to offer the cup of Leta to
- 1:41:30Speaker 4: the soul's reincarnating from the underworld, from Hades' realm, and
- 1:41:35Speaker 4: so this cup of Letha is from the river in
- 1:41:39Speaker 4: one of the underworld you know, rivers, and it makes
- 1:41:44Speaker 4: you forget. So Leta means that you forget. A lathia
- 1:41:50Speaker 4: means that you remember beyond one life to the next.
- 1:41:53Speaker 4: A lathia was coined by a guy named Parmenides and
- 1:41:58Speaker 4: his uh poem on nature and what Parmenides was trying
- 1:42:03Speaker 4: to enunciate by saying, alethea is that memory persists beyond materiality.
- 1:42:12Speaker 4: It persists beyond one life to the next. There's an
- 1:42:16Speaker 4: informational field, something exists that can transfer our souls into
- 1:42:21Speaker 4: the future. We're not just separated between death and reality.
- 1:42:29Speaker 4: There's something else that draws us back. And in that case,
- 1:42:34Speaker 4: I think Alethea is a perfect idea of remembering the
- 1:42:39Speaker 4: soul that is coming back into creation. What they're trying
- 1:42:44Speaker 4: to describe now with all of this stuff is a
- 1:42:48Speaker 4: reconnection of the harmony with that original vibration. I think
- 1:42:55Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing.
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly interesting, and yeah, I like how much
- 1:43:04Speaker 1: it aligns with like metaphysics.
- 1:43:11Speaker 3: Absolutely, Uh, Ethan, were you done reading?
- 1:43:19Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:43:20Speaker 7: Okay, okay, Uh, I want to wrap it up now.
- 1:43:26Speaker 7: I was just thinking, maybe, I don't know, if we
- 1:43:27Speaker 7: go another whole row with people, that could be it
- 1:43:29Speaker 7: could be like.
- 1:43:30Speaker 3: Another Say, iagine know that the document was was this long?
- 1:43:34Speaker 3: It's pretty long?
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: No, No, I said, I didn't.
- 1:43:39Speaker 7: I did not think we'd get through all of it
- 1:43:40Speaker 7: in one show, right.
- 1:43:42Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we can always come back in a few
- 1:43:47Speaker 2: weeks ago more.
- 1:43:49Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I don't like.
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: To continue it actually.
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: There's a lot packed Yeah, I'm I may I may
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: read this over the weekend. There's there's a lot packed
- 1:44:00Speaker 3: into this.
- 1:44:01Speaker 7: No, there's a lot of share I mean again there
- 1:44:03Speaker 7: aeros Can I even tell you there's a lot more
- 1:44:05Speaker 7: stuff in definitely.
- 1:44:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just been reading and just kind of thinking.
- 1:44:10Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot having to do with thought
- 1:44:11Speaker 3: forms and here you know, I'm real big on thought
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: forms and aggregres. Everybody knows that and uh creating them
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: And what about zegeist occult science behind it? What's up?
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:44:22Speaker 3: Yeah, heav I was talking about the zeit guys. We
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: got to get into that too in the in the
- 1:44:26Speaker 3: Genius Lowcui. We always love talking about that on my show.
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: But so yeah, I have to dive into this a
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: little further, talk about the zy guys. Head let's before
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: we get out of here.
- 1:44:38Speaker 4: If you like, well, Zeitgeist is like the spirit of
- 1:44:41Speaker 4: the age. You can even assert that the uh the Pisces,
- 1:44:46Speaker 4: you know, living in the Age of Pisces is sort
- 1:44:48Speaker 4: of coming to an end. We're coming to a different
- 1:44:51Speaker 4: phase of reality, which would be a different vibration of thinking.
- 1:44:57Speaker 4: And in a lot of ways, what they were talking
- 1:45:00Speaker 4: about the Age of Aquarius has already been fulfilled and
- 1:45:04Speaker 4: we're not even catching up to that reality yet. Right now,
- 1:45:08Speaker 4: we're looking at each other through a screen that is
- 1:45:10Speaker 4: being broadcast over waves through air like a watery air sign,
- 1:45:17Speaker 4: and we're in the Age of Aquarius, and we're talking
- 1:45:20Speaker 4: over a watery air sign about spiritual topics. It kind
- 1:45:25Speaker 4: of seems like we're in the Age of Aquarius. Guys,
- 1:45:28Speaker 4: are you following me?
- 1:45:30Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:45:30Speaker 4: I mean, like, here's the new world religion. That's what
- 1:45:33Speaker 4: happens every time you change one of these signs. Right
- 1:45:36Speaker 4: We're in a new world religion and we barely even
- 1:45:39Speaker 4: register it yet. It's strange how that happens. So all
- 1:45:45Speaker 4: I'm saying is that there are new ways of seeing
- 1:45:48Speaker 4: the world. We've sort of transitioned, and nobody really noticed.
- 1:45:53Speaker 4: Everybody was looking for a cataclysm, but what if it
- 1:45:56Speaker 4: was just a different way of seeing things. Oh it's huge.
- 1:46:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really a big point. The truth
- 1:46:03Speaker 2: of this.
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: I totally agree on them and awakening of some sort.
- 1:46:06Speaker 7: No, I mean there is parts and I don't want
- 1:46:08Speaker 7: to start sounding like, you know, pro like thlamic and
- 1:46:11Speaker 7: certain things, But when you even look at the story
- 1:46:13Speaker 7: of Horror about the way they look at him as
- 1:46:15Speaker 7: being the rebellious child. I see that with my generation
- 1:46:19Speaker 7: kind of right where we aren't buying the bullshit, and
- 1:46:22Speaker 7: we also don't really kind of like the way our
- 1:46:24Speaker 7: parents fucking dealt with us either. We don't agree with
- 1:46:26Speaker 7: that either, right, so we're kind of rebelling against the
- 1:46:30Speaker 7: whole system.
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:46:31Speaker 7: There's a lot of people I know that I are
- 1:46:33Speaker 7: actually actively like changing their lives, and we're all around
- 1:46:35Speaker 7: the same age, and we're realizing a lot of it
- 1:46:37Speaker 7: was due to what we were bred to believe, and
- 1:46:41Speaker 7: we actually don't agree with it anymore. You know, it's
- 1:46:44Speaker 7: a fucked up way to live. I want, you know,
- 1:46:47Speaker 7: my decision, it's my life, you know. And I think
- 1:46:50Speaker 7: you're seeing that just in multiple ways. It doesn't even
- 1:46:53Speaker 7: have to be in the conspiracy community, just people in general.
- 1:46:56Speaker 7: And I think that has a change the way the
- 1:46:58Speaker 7: society is going to move go forward as well.
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I'm excited for the Age of Aquarius.
- 1:47:09Speaker 3: You know, what a time to be alive.
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: You know, bring down that piscean power.
- 1:47:16Speaker 4: You would you would.
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: Yourself.
- 1:47:24Speaker 4: I mean, look, look, there's so much self contradictory stuff
- 1:47:27Speaker 4: that we could already see that is embodied with the
- 1:47:30Speaker 4: sign of Aquarius. You know, Aquarius is the self contradictory side.
- 1:47:35Speaker 4: It's it's crazy how weird Aquarius is. Like if you
- 1:47:40Speaker 4: look at the different symbolism associated with it, it.
- 1:47:43Speaker 3: Really starts with water in general.
- 1:47:46Speaker 4: You know, yes, yes, water is a gas and liquid. Right,
- 1:47:52Speaker 4: there's there's all these strange attributes to water and liquids
- 1:47:57Speaker 4: in general. But now you're talking about like it's the
- 1:48:01Speaker 4: watery air. To me, it's the radio waves are the
- 1:48:09Speaker 4: watery air. Those are the waves through the air themselves. Right,
- 1:48:14Speaker 4: We're living on our cell phones and all we see
- 1:48:18Speaker 4: is what comes to us through these different layers of
- 1:48:23Speaker 4: watery air. I mean, that's that's a new world religion, right,
- 1:48:29Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's what people used to connect over.
- 1:48:33Speaker 4: Everything was about the community, and they got together over
- 1:48:37Speaker 4: their religion all throughout these different eons. And now we're
- 1:48:40Speaker 4: looking at a new eon that's based off of a
- 1:48:43Speaker 4: similar concept.
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: And you know, Uranus and lightning bolts, which is very
- 1:48:50Speaker 1: you know, watery sky. But it's I mean it's good
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: because it's I mean, Aquarius doesn't like consolidated power, and
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: it is very diffusion, very pro community and individualism. So
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: it's like both both of the best worlds, right because
- 1:49:11Speaker 1: you get to be individuals and have community, and it
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: is these utopian ideals. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it,
- 1:49:21Speaker 1: just but I think we still have I mean it technically,
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: I don't think that it starts until like the actual
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: Earth's tilt. Is it fully inaquarius until like two thousand,
- 1:49:37Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty, But we are kind of like
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: where those two constellations are like overlapping a little bit,
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: and so it's.
- 1:49:47Speaker 4: Kind of shit errows. You gotta look at this historically,
- 1:49:51Speaker 4: this would be the arms race. Two one hundred and
- 1:49:55Speaker 4: fifty would be the date that the dominance begins, and
- 1:49:59Speaker 4: then the decline after that would would follow. So there
- 1:50:03Speaker 4: are different phases to these different eons that we could
- 1:50:06Speaker 4: see happening with, uh, the Age of Pisces, you know,
- 1:50:10Speaker 4: the rise of Christ and before that, the Age of
- 1:50:13Speaker 4: the ram you know, all these things have the same
- 1:50:17Speaker 4: kind of signatures. Literally, yes, the Age.
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: Of Pisces began at one CE, inga Jesus' birth, so
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: this has been that age and you can we have
- 1:50:37Speaker 1: a very Semitic powers.
- 1:50:40Speaker 7: Have you ever heard of the date of Jesus them
- 1:50:43Speaker 7: saying that maybe it's for He's not not exactly the
- 1:50:46Speaker 7: first year, but the fourth year.
- 1:50:48Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of that that? No, well, it's
- 1:50:52Speaker 2: kind of I mean, I do think it's actually like
- 1:50:54Speaker 2: accepted as like possibly or true. Actually. And the weird
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: thing is, I don't know if most people know that.
- 1:51:00Speaker 7: If you happen to believe in that that actually came
- 1:51:02Speaker 7: from Johannes Kepler, Oh my.
- 1:51:04Speaker 3: God, I get it. Sorry, I just had I just
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: had a revelation in my mind.
- 1:51:09Speaker 7: It's find that interesting that guy was gonna call this,
- 1:51:12Speaker 7: you know whatever I mean there with so much, so
- 1:51:15Speaker 7: much of what we believe is outside our windows came
- 1:51:19Speaker 7: from him. And if you see what he was into
- 1:51:21Speaker 7: and what his family was into. He had to go
- 1:51:23Speaker 7: to court and defend for his mother and she wasn't
- 1:51:26Speaker 7: a witch. These are the people that are determining what
- 1:51:31Speaker 7: the fuck we look at, yo. That motherfucker stole Tacho
- 1:51:34Speaker 7: brought his work. Basically, yes, as soon as he died,
- 1:51:38Speaker 7: the motherfucker tried to swipe up his ship, and the
- 1:51:40Speaker 7: family even.
- 1:51:41Speaker 2: Tried to take it back from him.
- 1:51:44Speaker 4: So dude, you have to listen to his rendition of
- 1:51:47Speaker 4: Tycho Brahi. Tycho is determining how people see the universe
- 1:51:53Speaker 4: around them, and he's fighting against not only the Catholic
- 1:51:57Speaker 4: Church but also the crowd. And after he dies, they
- 1:52:02Speaker 4: end up bulldozing his shit. And there's not really a
- 1:52:05Speaker 4: reason why they would do that. Like, he's just looking
- 1:52:08Speaker 4: up at the sky. It doesn't make any sense why
- 1:52:10Speaker 4: they would make a castle, just just destroy a castle
- 1:52:13Speaker 4: for no reason, you know, but that's what he's doing.
- 1:52:17Speaker 4: He's just looking up at the sky. So maybe there's
- 1:52:20Speaker 4: something to this shit.
- 1:52:21Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I didn't even have a telescope, you know,
- 1:52:24Speaker 7: he did all that shit by fred Eye and like
- 1:52:25Speaker 7: wooden things that he made dump shit into the ground,
- 1:52:28Speaker 7: so move it wind. The fucking guy was nuts. Yeah,
- 1:52:34Speaker 7: just a very interesting story if you kind of look
- 1:52:36Speaker 7: at the whole Tychobrahie a couple of connections and like
- 1:52:39Speaker 7: the impact he's even had on religious stuff.
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: You did episodes on that, didn't you.
- 1:52:46Speaker 2: I'm working on him now.
- 1:52:47Speaker 7: I'm actually editing the episode, so hopefully I'll haven't done
- 1:52:50Speaker 7: it a few days.
- 1:52:52Speaker 3: So yeah, So with the beginning of a new age
- 1:52:54Speaker 3: comes the end of an old power. We need to
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: destroy that old aggrigor guys.
- 1:52:58Speaker 2: Yes, it's very fascist eggregroom.
- 1:53:03Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's how I keep it.
- 1:53:04Speaker 2: For me. It's like, yo, like what I was talking
- 1:53:05Speaker 2: about before, like just keep it real.
- 1:53:07Speaker 7: Like I grew up in an Italian family. I mean,
- 1:53:09Speaker 7: come on, there's gonna be fascism in there somewhere, you know,
- 1:53:12Speaker 7: when the Italian allow'll just keep it real, like at
- 1:53:14Speaker 7: some point, you know, my family before they moved over here,
- 1:53:18Speaker 7: accepted some of Italy's fascism because it came too much.
- 1:53:22Speaker 7: And then you left and you brought over the accepted part,
- 1:53:26Speaker 7: which was very verbally mind fucking people to do whatever
- 1:53:28Speaker 7: you want. The Italians are great at that, and that's
- 1:53:34Speaker 7: you know, that was part of something that I realized
- 1:53:35Speaker 7: that didn't work with me anymore. I'm not being manipulated
- 1:53:39Speaker 7: because I was told, you know, because I said so,
- 1:53:42Speaker 7: that's not a fucking answer. There's no depth to that
- 1:53:45Speaker 7: fucking answer. I want to know why because you said so,
- 1:53:48Speaker 7: fuck you? Well sorry, someways.
- 1:53:52Speaker 4: I see, I see a lot of what il Duce
- 1:53:56Speaker 4: was doing was he was actually trying to ask why
- 1:54:00Speaker 4: should we have to accept every everything the rest of
- 1:54:04Speaker 4: Europe wants to put on us. He was he was
- 1:54:07Speaker 4: the home of everything, right, I mean, the Roman Catholic
- 1:54:11Speaker 4: Church was the center of everything for a long time
- 1:54:15Speaker 4: until you know, people like you know, the fascist dictators
- 1:54:20Speaker 4: are like, what the fuck happened? We don't have any
- 1:54:22Speaker 4: power anymore?
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:54:25Speaker 4: They were asking the question. That's that's what Mussolini was doing.
- 1:54:29Speaker 4: He was asking the question what was all of this for?
- 1:54:32Speaker 4: What are we doing here? And he really didn't find
- 1:54:36Speaker 4: any answers. You know, wait, nobody knew what was the
- 1:54:43Speaker 4: European project all about? And you know, for instance, Musolini
- 1:54:51Speaker 4: he wasn't necessarily a hardcore Christian. He was just thinking
- 1:54:55Speaker 4: about his own people, and he was like, what did
- 1:54:57Speaker 4: the Italian people gain from all of this conquisadors and
- 1:55:02Speaker 4: all the rest of this European expansionism? What did they get?
- 1:55:09Speaker 4: And he didn't have any answers. I mean, Hitler didn't
- 1:55:12Speaker 4: have any answers either. Nobody did they really get control?
- 1:55:19Speaker 4: Who's got control at this point? Who's calling the shots?
- 1:55:23Speaker 3: So many different.
- 1:55:24Speaker 1: Groups, I mean, wouldn't you say, like.
- 1:55:30Speaker 3: Maybe it's all one they all I don't.
- 1:55:31Speaker 4: Know, largely the focus everybody is focused on one certain
- 1:55:39Speaker 4: group all the time, and if we focused on ourselves,
- 1:55:41Speaker 4: we wouldn't have to face all of this geopolitical turmoil.
- 1:55:45Speaker 4: Just focus on yourselves, people, anybody else. We don't have
- 1:55:52Speaker 4: to do that.
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: But that's why it's pushed on.
- 1:55:57Speaker 8: Gandhi said it so well, if you want to change
- 1:56:01Speaker 8: the world, change yourself. I think something like that.
- 1:56:06Speaker 3: You guys.
- 1:56:07Speaker 2: Uh. I said that once and I was told I
- 1:56:08Speaker 2: had white privilege.
- 1:56:10Speaker 3: Exactly, you have too much white privilege. You need you
- 1:56:14Speaker 3: need to I was like, wow, thanks, give some of
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: it to me, dude.
- 1:56:21Speaker 4: It's a sort question every time.
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: It is definitely Abrahamic religions that are like most empowered
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: and most popular.
- 1:56:34Speaker 3: They use especially Yeah, they use people's faith against them,
- 1:56:38Speaker 3: the mass population. Right, and uh, empathy is done to
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: people right.
- 1:56:44Speaker 4: It's empathy is a weapon all the time, whether you're
- 1:56:46Speaker 4: trying to save somebody else or save yourselves. When you
- 1:56:49Speaker 4: use empathy as a weapon, everything crumbles. It's like the
- 1:56:54Speaker 4: snake idiot's own tail.
- 1:56:56Speaker 2: People know it's convincing people sympathy over empathy.
- 1:56:59Speaker 7: That's the whole I was even saying along that lines
- 1:57:02Speaker 7: when I had that whole thing spewed at me the
- 1:57:04Speaker 7: whole white privilege shit. I was getting into the whole thing,
- 1:57:07Speaker 7: and even Crowley said something like that, and I was saying,
- 1:57:09Speaker 7: That's what I thought was a problem with the OTO
- 1:57:11Speaker 7: is that Croley even said one of the one of
- 1:57:14Speaker 7: the problems with humanity.
- 1:57:15Speaker 2: Is that they're going to start mistaking sympathy for empathy.
- 1:57:18Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I thought happened with within that order.
- 1:57:22Speaker 4: What about what about Jupiter? I have to keep going
- 1:57:25Speaker 4: back to Jupiter because Jupiter is like, I will give
- 1:57:28Speaker 4: despite your complaints. Right, That's what patriarchy is. I will
- 1:57:32Speaker 4: give despite your complaints. And that's what we keep finding
- 1:57:36Speaker 4: ourselves in this position is because we don't actually say
- 1:57:40Speaker 4: stop complaining. We're trying to give, you know, I mean,
- 1:57:44Speaker 4: we've been doing that for so long, just trying to
- 1:57:47Speaker 4: give and then not getting anything back for it. As
- 1:57:50Speaker 4: as you know men and as as a people, it's like,
- 1:57:54Speaker 4: we can't say stop it. We have no more empathy left.
- 1:58:00Speaker 4: How do you do that without without some form of violence.
- 1:58:03Speaker 4: I don't understand how we can get to the place
- 1:58:06Speaker 4: where we could say stop leave us alone. I mean,
- 1:58:09Speaker 4: that's that's kind of what our entire political struggle has
- 1:58:13Speaker 4: been is how do you say enough is enough?
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: Well, I would say we find ourselves, right, It's not
- 1:58:20Speaker 1: just it's not just empathy though, And I don't think
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: Jupiter is is an empathetic sign. It's a diplomatic sign.
- 1:58:30Speaker 1: It's a higher learning sign, an explorative sign. But would
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: you really say Uranus, Saturn or Zeus like all kind
- 1:58:41Speaker 1: of associated with that archetype are are are overly empathetic.
- 1:58:48Speaker 1: I would say that's Pisc and I would say that's
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: the Christos archetype. And I would also say that's part
- 1:58:54Speaker 1: of this age of a query age of Pisces, and
- 1:58:58Speaker 1: that it's not just empathy, it's it's also like blurriness, cloudiness,
- 1:59:03Speaker 1: like this confusion that they're stoking and this like cloudiness,
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: and even like this ideal like idealizing people in power
- 1:59:18Speaker 1: and stuff like that as like saviors and stuff like that.
- 1:59:22Speaker 1: That's all Pisc and I would not blame Zeus.
- 1:59:26Speaker 4: For any of this, No, I get you know, the
- 1:59:31Speaker 4: piscing aspect is being tied together by the tail. By
- 1:59:36Speaker 4: the tail, so it's like we're tied together by the
- 1:59:39Speaker 4: stories we tell each other. Right, That's how we're all
- 1:59:43Speaker 4: sort of brought together. Is there's a story that brings
- 1:59:47Speaker 4: everybody together, and then we're all sort of swimming in
- 1:59:50Speaker 4: the same direction. We kind of like each other, but
- 1:59:53Speaker 4: we're still fighting against each other.
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: I mean, look us fight though, because they're trying to
- 2:00:00Speaker 1: well the Age of Aquarius. They don't want us to
- 2:00:02Speaker 1: come together because that's it.
- 2:00:04Speaker 3: It's it's the end time, right, It's the times that.
- 2:00:10Speaker 4: Age versus the Calieuga Golden Age callie Uga, that's the
- 2:00:16Speaker 4: that's the main idea behind all of this stuff, you know.
- 2:00:21Speaker 4: I mean, Golden Age is real easy to understand. I
- 2:00:25Speaker 4: just hand that to you, and it's already a story
- 2:00:28Speaker 4: in itself. Caliyuga, that's already a story. It sounds terrible, right,
- 2:00:35Speaker 4: These are the things that we're up against. Is it's
- 2:00:38Speaker 4: the sounding of these things versus how do we have
- 2:00:40Speaker 4: the discernment to actually pick the right thing?
- 2:00:48Speaker 1: Mm hmm, people don't.
- 2:00:52Speaker 7: I think that's that's just something I just wanted to
- 2:00:54Speaker 7: check just to make sure, but I didn't look and uh,
- 2:00:58Speaker 7: it's yeah. It is normally kind of estimated between four
- 2:01:01Speaker 7: and six eighty was Jesus' birthday, and that is because
- 2:01:03Speaker 7: a couple of.
- 2:01:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to say. Somebody right, Jesus birthday said
- 2:01:07Speaker 3: September eleventh, three BC. Okay, that's a. That's a. That's eleven. Well,
- 2:01:15Speaker 3: here's the April first yeary, you know, because of April
- 2:01:19Speaker 3: Fool's Day. Then you know, just there's there's a few
- 2:01:23Speaker 3: theories out there I've heard about.
- 2:01:25Speaker 4: It's a tough Yeah.
- 2:01:29Speaker 8: I think the September that time of year comes from
- 2:01:34Speaker 8: certain references to uh, the shepherd's being amongst the flock
- 2:01:40Speaker 8: and how the seasonal kind of thing would flow like that.
- 2:01:44Speaker 8: I believe it's something like that.
- 2:01:48Speaker 3: All right, well guys, you all want to go ahead.
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: We're at two hours.
- 2:01:52Speaker 4: This is so that conversation.
- 2:01:55Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fucking fun.
- 2:01:57Speaker 4: Thank you, great idea.
- 2:02:00Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, I'm.
- 2:02:00Speaker 1: Glad that you guys wanted to do this.
- 2:02:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:02:04Speaker 4: And symbols are our ship, dude. We love that.
- 2:02:07Speaker 2: Cult and science put together.
- 2:02:08Speaker 3: That yeare.
- 2:02:13Speaker 2: Arrows will stall with you what you watch, your plug
- 2:02:15Speaker 2: your stuff?
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: Yeah, please follow me on YouTube at Arrows Up. I
- 2:02:24Speaker 1: have some presentations that I've done on the occult rejects there,
- 2:02:28Speaker 1: but I also have some studies on the enyads and
- 2:02:35Speaker 1: a video on Neptune and Saturn. Kim junct and pisces
- 2:02:41Speaker 1: and aries interesting stuff and then follow me on Twitter
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: at arrows to eth those.
- 2:02:51Speaker 2: Don't you also provide like some sort of services as well.
- 2:02:56Speaker 2: I thought i'd noticed it, like on your Twitter.
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna start doing astrology readings, but nobody,
- 2:03:09Speaker 1: nobody wanted them, so.
- 2:03:11Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'll just leave it up.
- 2:03:13Speaker 7: You know, people gotta find out somehow, right, I don't know, Yeah,
- 2:03:17Speaker 7: I noticed it, so that's why I brought it up.
- 2:03:19Speaker 2: I don't know if you took it down.
- 2:03:20Speaker 1: Sorry, I mean, yeah, transits so we're sinistry. I really
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: love sinistry readings. So like if you're in a relationship
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: or something and you guys are having like problems, you know,
- 2:03:35Speaker 1: you would be surprised at how accurate in history is.
- 2:03:41Speaker 7: Anyways, Okay, thank you, I'll plug the show again the
- 2:03:47Speaker 7: Cult Rejects on Bitch You Rumble YouTube and all major
- 2:03:49Speaker 7: podcasts tomorrow, just to reiterate we are getting on and
- 2:03:53Speaker 7: these these guys are actually like really big names in
- 2:03:56Speaker 7: the Golden Don and the Bakers was a pretty well
- 2:03:59Speaker 7: known the Mason Mason recircuit, but we got Ike Baker
- 2:04:03Speaker 7: and Jamie Paul Lamb going on tomorrow.
- 2:04:05Speaker 2: Again.
- 2:04:05Speaker 7: That's actually, like people may not realize because there's a
- 2:04:10Speaker 7: you know, this was a kind of a conspiracy slash
- 2:04:12Speaker 7: of cold but in the occult community, those are actually
- 2:04:15Speaker 7: two fucking big names to have one at the same time,
- 2:04:18Speaker 7: so it should really be impressive. And they are both
- 2:04:21Speaker 7: friends with each other, you know, they're really cool with
- 2:04:23Speaker 7: each other, so that was another reason why I wanted
- 2:04:25Speaker 7: to get them on. So, like, they're even excited to
- 2:04:27Speaker 7: go on the show together to hang out. So keep it,
- 2:04:30Speaker 7: you know, keep it, keep a check out, check it out.
- 2:04:32Speaker 2: Tomorrow's definitely before Nick Nick.
- 2:04:36Speaker 4: If anybody's watching seven seven seven, they need to tune
- 2:04:40Speaker 4: in because these guys are experts in that ship. Definitely,
- 2:04:44Speaker 4: So it's it's gonna be all related to that stuff.
- 2:04:47Speaker 4: We've already covered it so many times. You're gonna hear
- 2:04:50Speaker 4: it there firsthand.
- 2:04:52Speaker 7: Yeah, if you've been listening, you've heard us mention the
- 2:04:55Speaker 7: actual Jamatria thing Ike Baker, I mean, and the guy
- 2:04:59Speaker 7: goes himself Ike Baker, so I mean obviously he's into
- 2:05:03Speaker 7: that shit. So yeah, definitely check it out. These guys
- 2:05:06Speaker 7: they are not dumb. They are very very intelligent people,
- 2:05:09Speaker 7: and they're well respected in the community. So I, you know,
- 2:05:13Speaker 7: suggest to highly check out the show tomorrow if you
- 2:05:15Speaker 7: can make it, and I.
- 2:05:16Speaker 2: Think that's at three thirty.
- 2:05:18Speaker 7: He was available at three o'clock after and so I
- 2:05:20Speaker 7: figured to keep it thirty three.
- 2:05:22Speaker 2: Fike, I asked him, would you want to do three thirty?
- 2:05:24Speaker 7: So that's what we got going, all right? Uh so yeah,
- 2:05:30Speaker 7: check that out and I'll shut up in jewels. Please
- 2:05:32Speaker 7: go ahead and let everybody know.
- 2:05:35Speaker 3: As you can find me on x at, grypool pod, Instagram,
- 2:05:39Speaker 3: grate Pool, Underscore podcast, YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Patreon, Patreon,
- 2:05:46Speaker 3: dot com, slash, grappool podcast. Best way to support the show?
- 2:05:52Speaker 3: What do I Got? What do I Got? Tomorrow morning? Uh?
- 2:05:56Speaker 3: That's the tery book review Gods in the Morning. Would
- 2:05:58Speaker 3: we're doing, uh a Cult Unseen Forces and I think
- 2:06:06Speaker 3: it's a Dweller on the Threshold chapter and then a
- 2:06:11Speaker 3: cold Anatomy of Man like part six of that that
- 2:06:15Speaker 3: we've done, and that we could do six pages or
- 2:06:19Speaker 3: we could do like six sentences. It could take us
- 2:06:23Speaker 3: two hours, you know, an hour and a half whatever.
- 2:06:27Speaker 3: That's tomorrow and then nine o'clock am and then Sunday
- 2:06:31Speaker 3: seven seven PM Central. I'm having toad on Tower Gang
- 2:06:37Speaker 3: Toads coming to hang out, so y'all come and kick it.
- 2:06:40Speaker 3: It's going to be a good time hang out, my
- 2:06:43Speaker 3: boy talk some conspiracies and yeah, Austin Paccard next week.
- 2:06:51Speaker 3: I should know the date, but I don't, so I'll
- 2:06:54Speaker 3: let y'all know later this weekend. But this was a
- 2:06:56Speaker 3: great show. Thank you Erros for bringing this up. And uh, yeah,
- 2:07:01Speaker 3: I plan on reading this outside here, so.
- 2:07:06Speaker 12: Yeah anyway, ethan, Yeah, and you gotta check out the
- 2:07:14Speaker 12: twenty fifth page that they omitted that's now available to you.
- 2:07:19Speaker 8: Don't forget that all brings it, that brings it together.
- 2:07:23Speaker 8: But uh, honored to talk with you guys and Nick
- 2:07:27Speaker 8: Arros everybody, thank you for putting this together. And I'm
- 2:07:31Speaker 8: easy to find online and I'll be making more tai
- 2:07:35Speaker 8: chi videos with your inspiration now. And actually I'm reminded
- 2:07:40Speaker 8: one of the books I wrote is a free e
- 2:07:43Speaker 8: book right now if anyone does e books, the tai
- 2:07:46Speaker 8: Chi Pill, and it's uh I think got it has
- 2:07:50Speaker 8: some quality information to it. So and I'm easy to
- 2:07:54Speaker 8: find on social media if I'm repeating myself, So again,
- 2:07:57Speaker 8: appreciate you guys.
- 2:07:59Speaker 3: And y'all go check out the Rustic Gods episode from
- 2:08:02Speaker 3: last night that me and Headless did on Helloa and Demeter.
- 2:08:07Speaker 3: But yeah, we did it mainly on Helloa the Greek
- 2:08:11Speaker 3: Midwinter Festival, but there was a tangent in there. There's
- 2:08:14Speaker 3: like a twenty twenty five minute tangent on set and
- 2:08:16Speaker 3: yahweh that goes fuck, it goes pretty hard. So y'all
- 2:08:20Speaker 3: go check that episode and donkey heads. But also I
- 2:08:26Speaker 3: did an episode yesterday, did a New Year's episode for
- 2:08:28Speaker 3: anyone who hadn't seen it. I give a bunch of
- 2:08:31Speaker 3: shout outs to all my people, you know, my audience
- 2:08:35Speaker 3: and people that I do shows with, my friends, my
- 2:08:37Speaker 3: only friends, and yeah, it was a good show. We
- 2:08:43Speaker 3: read a Steiner lecture on the Drafts or the Druids.
- 2:08:48Speaker 1: But yeahweh and penis cakes.
- 2:08:52Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is right about that. Yeah, we talked
- 2:08:56Speaker 3: about the fertility parties that they would have and it's
- 2:08:59Speaker 3: all all in good fun, and I talked about how
- 2:09:02Speaker 3: it was it's now like you know, the degenerate to
- 2:09:06Speaker 3: do that, because you know they'll do it for like
- 2:09:08Speaker 3: a fucking kids party or something, you know what I mean,
- 2:09:10Speaker 3: or have some drag queen there to tand them out
- 2:09:12Speaker 3: or you know, they they always gott to fuck it
- 2:09:15Speaker 3: up somehow.
- 2:09:16Speaker 4: It's the whiplash effect. It's the whipla. We got to
- 2:09:20Speaker 4: get away from the whiplash effects and start to be
- 2:09:22Speaker 4: more interior as opposed to putting everything on Instagram or
- 2:09:26Speaker 4: what have you. It's just have fun, don't put it
- 2:09:29Speaker 4: on the internet, and then remember who your people are.
- 2:09:34Speaker 4: Those are three easy rules, right.
- 2:09:38Speaker 3: Awesome? Well yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just you know,
- 2:09:41Speaker 3: it's like used to you know, you can have a
- 2:09:43Speaker 3: penis cake at at some you know, at an adult party,
- 2:09:46Speaker 3: and it'd be it was all in good fun. You know,
- 2:09:49Speaker 3: it is a good laugh.
- 2:09:51Speaker 2: But now it takes a lot more extreme.
- 2:09:53Speaker 3: And maybe there's something in the penis cake or they're
- 2:09:56Speaker 3: like an actual penis or you know, I don't know,
- 2:10:00Speaker 3: somebody pops out the cake. No one clip that.
- 2:10:11Speaker 4: All right, So you can find me on Monday nights, sorry,
- 2:10:16Speaker 4: Sunday mornings ten thirty Cus with Ethan Indigo and uh Ricardo.
- 2:10:23Speaker 4: We're talking uh the Trialogs and then Mondays we got
- 2:10:28Speaker 4: the Alchemy. Mondays hopefully we got tu bing who knows.
- 2:10:33Speaker 4: Tuesdays we've got seven seven seven with Nick and then
- 2:10:36Speaker 4: Wednesdays I am sleeping, and then Thursdays we're doing the
- 2:10:42Speaker 4: Headless's Magical Mailbag Fridays whatever the hell this is, and
- 2:10:46Speaker 4: uh yeah, i'll see on Saturday.
- 2:10:50Speaker 7: Bet you Wednesday you'll see it what Joe Gina Rose though,
- 2:10:53Speaker 7: but you'll show up Wednesday for that, you know me.
- 2:10:59Speaker 2: I went to.
- 2:11:01Speaker 7: Y'all real quick, I do I do want to say
- 2:11:03Speaker 7: real quick before we wrap it up with the people
- 2:11:05Speaker 7: listening to that. Wednesday we also got we have Georgina
- 2:11:08Speaker 7: Rose coming on at six o'clock.
- 2:11:09Speaker 2: Then also at nine o'clock.
- 2:11:11Speaker 7: Darling, Yeah Dot Darling or Georgina Rose whatever, however, people
- 2:11:15Speaker 7: know who she, you know, know her big in the
- 2:11:18Speaker 7: Thalma community. She's got a few books out. And then
- 2:11:21Speaker 7: at nine o'clock we also got I wanted to get
- 2:11:24Speaker 7: this guy on at a time that Jewels could come on.
- 2:11:26Speaker 7: We got Frida RC covering Enochian magic, so that should
- 2:11:31Speaker 7: be really interesting. And he's also from the Golden Don
- 2:11:33Speaker 7: as well, so I really look forward to get him
- 2:11:36Speaker 7: coming on. I think he's also I think he's also
- 2:11:37Speaker 7: friends with like Baker. That's how I think I might
- 2:11:39Speaker 7: have came across him, so a very interesting guy. I
- 2:11:41Speaker 7: headed over to them talking to him in the chat
- 2:11:43Speaker 7: and he wanted to get him on the show so
- 2:11:45Speaker 7: to to real actually pretty impressive people in the e
- 2:11:49Speaker 7: CO community coming on next Wednesday, So keep an eye
- 2:11:51Speaker 7: off of both those shows.
- 2:11:53Speaker 3: Thank you very much, all right, and if we don't
- 2:11:58Speaker 3: see y'all, y'all had a great weekend. Everybody later,