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Miami Sports Reporter Blasts NC State Coach Dave Doeren! · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Gooding and everybody, Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I not in my bubbly, high pitched voice tonight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a reason to. Okay, if you thought
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Hagler and Thomas Hearns was a slug pest for
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  Speaker 1: three rounds, you didn't see nothing yet until you watch
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  Speaker 1: the beginning and the end of this show. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you right now, Okay, I once learned a
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  Speaker 1: message from a mentor of mind. Don't get mad, get eten. Well,
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  Speaker 1: consider this a show for me tonight that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to address some serious business that took place on Saturday
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  Speaker 1: after the Miami Hurricane. He clabbered the NC State wolf
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  Speaker 1: Pack forty one to seven. Let me preface you about
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  Speaker 1: what I'm going to talk about tonight. When I entered
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  Speaker 1: this media availability and I talked to head coach Dave Dorin,
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  Speaker 1: all I did when I approached this guy for the
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  Speaker 1: first time was mentioned something simple like, you know, coaches
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  Speaker 1: kind of in a good way. Interesting that you went
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  Speaker 1: out there have the same birthday as two of my
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  Speaker 1: close family members. What I got from this scumbag because,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, as time went on, he turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be a scumbag. He, to his credit, Okay, answered
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  Speaker 1: the football questions the way football coach should put in
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  Speaker 1: a very knowledgeable way, and he did what he had
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  Speaker 1: to do. But let me preface the setting, and Kenny's
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  Speaker 1: gonna provide somedividuals, okay about what we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about tonight. But I'm going and that's how we're going
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  Speaker 1: to start this thing again. This is a lighthearted moment
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  Speaker 1: despite the fact that NC State, like I said, got
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  Speaker 1: thrashed forty one to seven to Miami. It amounted them
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  Speaker 1: more than it should have been from a guy that
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  Speaker 1: I can now put, as I said, the biggest scumbag
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  Speaker 1: that I've ever met in my forty seven year history
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  Speaker 1: in the in sports media. Let them mind you, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Dorin's what I took out of this whole situation
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  Speaker 1: was this, Dave, Okay, you could talk about how tough
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  Speaker 1: it may have been, that you're cooling off over a
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  Speaker 1: tough game. Okay, I get it. You're lost by a
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  Speaker 1: wide margin, and truthfully, the score should have been forty
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  Speaker 1: one to nothing, but Miami went ahead as far as
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned, and gave up seven points at the end.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you right now, okay, And
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  Speaker 1: I know there will be a lot of traction with
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  Speaker 1: this thing as time goes on. I expect that I
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  Speaker 1: don't care in my opinion what comes out of this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. It's about proving a point, and that point
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  Speaker 1: is this. Let me remind you, Coach Dorn, nobody ever
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  Speaker 1: on that night died and I repeat passed away on
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  Speaker 1: the field at Miami with hard Rock Stadium. Candy put
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  Speaker 1: a fixture up there that George Eichorn and I when
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  Speaker 1: it had had to deal with on October twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, when a guy by the name but
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Hughes passed away through to a cardiac problem. Now
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  Speaker 1: why am I mentioning this and putting this graphic up there,
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  Speaker 1: Because number one, I was eight years of age when
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  Speaker 1: this took place, and George probably wasn't much older than
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  Speaker 1: I am. Oh, you're like fourteen at.
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  Speaker 2: That time, Georgia, Yeah, yeah, fourteen fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: So George and I witnessed this man passing away as
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  Speaker 1: Dick Buckets oversaw the whole thing and tried to get help.
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  Speaker 1: So Dave Doran and all of the NCAS state and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the world watching this particular show should
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  Speaker 1: realize that football is a game. It is. Yes, it
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  Speaker 1: was a tough loss. I brought a lighthearted moment about
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  Speaker 1: your birthday and two people that are closed, and you
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  Speaker 1: made more out of it than you had to make
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  Speaker 1: out of it. Way out of line, Dorn, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not and we'll have a lot to talk about as
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  Speaker 1: this show goes on. But Chuck Hughes is dead. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see one person on NC State or Miami that
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  Speaker 1: died that night, and there hasn't been another death in
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  Speaker 1: any football okay since Chuck Hughes died. Tamar Hamlin, on
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, came close. But let me emphasize this, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because he had much more advanced medical attention, he was
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  Speaker 1: able to be saved and thankfully for his sake. So, George,
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  Speaker 1: you and I were there at that summer point. Do
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  Speaker 1: you feel that Dave Dorn was way out of line
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  Speaker 1: by going out there? And yes, he notably had right
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  Speaker 1: to be, just disturbed that it was something which I
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  Speaker 1: consider a bizarre question that may have caught him up guard.
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  Speaker 1: But if this wasn't an overreaction, okay, tell me what
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  Speaker 1: is George.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, no, you you nothing comes close to
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  Speaker 3: what you and I experienced and thousands of Lions fans
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  Speaker 3: on that cold Saturday Sunday afternoon and Chuck Hughes and
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  Speaker 3: you have to put.
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  Speaker 2: Every in perspective it and that was that was real life.
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  Speaker 2: That was it. This other stuff, uh uh no.
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  Speaker 1: The answers are what's going to end up happening. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm getting ahead of this thing. Tonight is Florida
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  Speaker 1: State is taking on Nancy State. Now again, Candy and
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  Speaker 1: I will probably be on our date night. I have
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  Speaker 1: no plans to watch the football game at all. I
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  Speaker 1: don't care. Friday night is my allocated date night. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if, for some stupid reason used to
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  Speaker 1: being in the group messages a little bit about the birthday.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't care because, let me emphasize, they didn't
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  Speaker 1: put my name out there. All it is is a
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  Speaker 1: Miami sports reporter. That's it. They don't have my name
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  Speaker 1: where you can slander it. But the point is this
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  Speaker 1: guy was, in my opinion, a complete idiot. He really asked, Candy,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you put the other graphic up there about
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  Speaker 1: how the one individuals acknowledge that at the fifty second clip,
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  Speaker 1: that's there was more to this thing that met the eye.
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  Speaker 1: So is there any way that anybody can read this
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  Speaker 1: at all?
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
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  Speaker 1: Not much? Hold on all right, Let's say she can
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  Speaker 1: blow it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I can't, but I can get to it.
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  Speaker 5: Hold one some, but just I wanted to.
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  Speaker 6: I'd want to read the bottom too.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's okay, I know very well she'll get it.
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  Speaker 1: It's important. That's why I'm emphasizing this stuff early. Mind you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like doing shows like this, but when I
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  Speaker 1: see a coach stepping way out a line the way
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  Speaker 1: this man did, and let me tell you, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot more to go on them. Okay, then I will
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  Speaker 1: talk about and that's this show goes on.
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  Speaker 7: So it says Dave Dorian after a bizarre post game
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  Speaker 7: press press or question, I just got my a kicked.
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  Speaker 7: You're not gonna get me to light in my mood.
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  Speaker 4: The saint funny to me.
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  Speaker 7: I do this s for a living Okay, for the
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  Speaker 7: rest of you who want more context. After Dave Dorian
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  Speaker 7: and NC State got their ass kicked by Miami some
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  Speaker 7: reporter early in the interview, just takes the time to
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  Speaker 7: tell Dave that he was looking through some notes and
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  Speaker 7: notice Dave has a December third birthday, And notice Dave
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  Speaker 7: and that it's the same birthdays of his family members
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  Speaker 7: right at the fifty second mark of the video linked.
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  Speaker 7: Then later the guy tries to tell Dave he was
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  Speaker 7: just trying to lighten the mood a little bit with that,
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  Speaker 7: and Dorian drops this banger of a quote that says, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I just got my a kicked. You're not gonna get
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  Speaker 7: me to lighten my mood. The same funny to me,
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  Speaker 7: I do this S for a living, Okay. That's so,
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  Speaker 7: that's what it says.
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  Speaker 1: So as far as I'm concerned, the word that he's
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  Speaker 1: using the S for a living, okay, which I hope
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  Speaker 1: is which I hope his employers see. Okay, that is
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  Speaker 1: ask for job for a living. Let me remind you,
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  Speaker 1: Dave Dorn, you get paid five point two five million
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  Speaker 1: dollars to do this five point two five million dollars
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  Speaker 1: to do this S job for a living. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: you get paid a lot of money. I don't take
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  Speaker 1: anybody in this whole wide world it's gonna worry about
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  Speaker 1: you bad over something that was intended to be lighthearted,
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  Speaker 1: that was not a life or death situation. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about the reason lack of success that
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  Speaker 1: they've had all year, because some of their losses are
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  Speaker 1: pitiful for a guy getting paid five point two five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. I hope and pray that his employers, when
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  Speaker 1: this season's over, go out there and justify whether this
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  Speaker 1: man should even be behind a microphone. I'll get behind
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  Speaker 1: that in a little bit. But let me tell you, David,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gona remind you and everybody throughout the show Dave
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  Speaker 1: Thorn and Chuck Hughes will only be related to one
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  Speaker 1: show ever, Okay, and that's this one. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: doing these shows. I have better things to do with
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  Speaker 1: this particular show, like talking about different non sports related
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  Speaker 1: and important human interest. But there comes a point what
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  Speaker 1: you have to do what is ethically right, in order
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  Speaker 1: to set the record straight about a guy who is
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  Speaker 1: definitely not Don Shula, who's not Bill Belichick. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of the great ones of all time don't really know
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  Speaker 1: what to call him. Although ever he mentioned the words comebag.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times I can use that word
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  Speaker 1: on one show. Don't really frankly care but as memorable
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  Speaker 1: evening as we get ready for a beautiful Thanksgiving athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Although actually, you know what we're talking about, a turkey.
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  Speaker 1: I found one a little bit a week earlier. So
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  Speaker 1: with that said, okay, I mean I haven't had any
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  Speaker 1: cappein today. So the one lighters are coming out and
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  Speaker 1: that's presented by Sprite zero Sugar. So it's frite. I
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  Speaker 1: am looking for a little bit of a coin on
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  Speaker 1: this particular deal. So let's talk about Dorian's truck record
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  Speaker 1: in terms of being rude to the media. He's been
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  Speaker 1: called a douchebag. He has a dry sense of humor,
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  Speaker 1: among other things. He get his ass kick and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get it again for me tonight. Sure everybody can tell
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  Speaker 1: that he's getting it right. Oh but that's okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: more to come. Okay, trust me. His team is lost minded.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's talk put the facts out here. Now, now
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  Speaker 1: we're talk to fact. They get off of me. They
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  Speaker 1: lost the two forty five to thirty three. They've lost
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  Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech twenty three to twenty one while they're
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  Speaker 1: in transition, mind you. Although they have a new coach
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  Speaker 1: in James Franklin, Virginia Tech will no longer be a
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  Speaker 1: laughing stock. Mar My work. That's in weeks four and five.
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  Speaker 1: He wins again against Campbell. Tommy, I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: they even had a football team. All I ever here
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  Speaker 1: about him is the Nancy Double A tournament, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: have you of course beat Campbell? What was that? Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, what an impressive win. This gets a national
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  Speaker 1: championship status fifty six to ten. That stopped Dave beat
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  Speaker 1: Camba as Campbell. Are they considered that Campbell's or I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what they're called. Don't don't know one time
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  Speaker 1: I were here about them? Yeah? Is in Nancy Double
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  Speaker 1: A Tournament Week six? Guess what the Catholics Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: Clamor's on week seven thirty six or seven? Can only
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  Speaker 1: meagine with that media availability, So they're like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: Miami forty one some norm Oh, but it can's even
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  Speaker 1: better than this. Then he wins against he does against Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: He loses Pittsford wins fifty three thirty four are double
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  Speaker 1: figure Do we see a common trend here?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: They only get better. He gets a byeway there, so
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  Speaker 1: he can't really lose that game because nobody win. Nobody loses,
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  Speaker 1: but not good enough you don't go ahead and meet
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, which I did talk to about. Okay, good
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  Speaker 1: Win leading up to my question forty eight to thirty six,
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  Speaker 1: but then he gets covered by Miami forty one to seven.
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  Speaker 1: So tom I'm gonna ask you, is about this track
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  Speaker 1: record of games? Okay? And let's just keep your troll
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  Speaker 1: in the games. Okay, Tommy, we're your thoughts about his
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  Speaker 1: recent body of work when you look at everything there
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  Speaker 1: now we talk about the dry sense of humor. What
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  Speaker 1: are some of the things that you've heard about his
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  Speaker 1: relationship that I mean? Do you say that he has
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  Speaker 1: a testing relationship with the media. Is that safe for
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  Speaker 1: you to say that it can be that way?
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  Speaker 8: Well, he can respond to questions, he can get testing
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  Speaker 8: responding to questions. Yeah, Okay. North Carolina State's been up
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  Speaker 8: and down for quite a while now. They struggle to
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  Speaker 8: get that breakthrough the game. They what they struggled for
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  Speaker 8: their breakthrough games, and that's true. Under Dave dor there's
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  Speaker 8: the two hundred. They're old coach O'Brien, it's always been
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  Speaker 8: that way. In fact, they have a radio show radio episodes,
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  Speaker 8: and it's up here called pack therapy to kind of
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  Speaker 8: help and see State fans suffer through all the disappointment.
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  Speaker 8: So they've always been up and down. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 8: surprised if they come off play strongly against Florida State
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  Speaker 8: on Friday night because they haven't tennis yet to play
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  Speaker 8: poorly and then come back and play strong.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. That's a fair question. Okay, So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask you this. Okay, Well, let me go around
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  Speaker 1: the horn with the rest of the crew. Okay, then
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  Speaker 1: I'll go back to you, Tommy, Okay, and I'll start
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  Speaker 1: off with you, Kadi. Let's just talk about his recent
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  Speaker 1: wave of games. The last four or five weeks have
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  Speaker 1: not looked good for this guy.
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  Speaker 7: No, it seems like he he.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if it's he doesn't know his opponents
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  Speaker 9: well enough or he doesn't coach to his kid's strength,
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  Speaker 9: but it seems like he's been up and down his
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  Speaker 9: first year.
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  Speaker 7: He's been at NC State since twenty thirteen. His first
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  Speaker 7: his overall record is ninety two and seventy overall and
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  Speaker 7: in the conference forty nine and fifty five. His first
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  Speaker 7: year there, he was three and nine. That is his
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  Speaker 7: worst year there so far, but his best year overall
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  Speaker 7: was nine and three. But it just seems like they're
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  Speaker 7: playing inconsistent. So in this NI era, inconsistent is what
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  Speaker 7: I would say at best.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Barvin, you've had an opportunity to take in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of what I've had to say. I know you're
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  Speaker 1: one of those kinds of guys who is a great listener.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm giving you the opportunity so that this
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  Speaker 1: show lives up to what we always call a wild Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you right now, you've looked at
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  Speaker 1: what I've talked about initially about this guy, what are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts about Dave Dorindy And she state.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you what. My wife won't say. I'm
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  Speaker 10: a good listener. If you ask her, she'll tell you.
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  Speaker 11: But anyway, Uh, well, he has a winning record overall,
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  Speaker 11: which is good. Is he stayed as a basketball school.
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  Speaker 11: You know, they were decent when they have Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 11: They were decent when they had Russell Wilson. You know,
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  Speaker 11: it's it's an okay football program that can be competitive,
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  Speaker 11: but you know with these guys, man, these guys are
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  Speaker 11: emotional man. These guys care about you know, what they're doing,
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  Speaker 11: and I think it's tough. Well, first of all, I
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  Speaker 11: think for him being a head coach, he has to
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  Speaker 11: be a better leader. And really when it comes to
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  Speaker 11: emotional intelligence and is being able to be a profile
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  Speaker 11: You're getting paid five million dollars a year man, so
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  Speaker 11: they expect you to be a certain type of professional,
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  Speaker 11: you know, whether things are going good or bad. And
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  Speaker 11: I think it's a horrible example for his young team
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  Speaker 11: to see him responding to what he does, but it
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  Speaker 11: speaks to his passion. I think all coaches have that.
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  Speaker 11: I think you know coaches handle that concept differently. But
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  Speaker 11: you know, when you're talking to a player or a
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  Speaker 11: coach after a game, after a tough loss, you put
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  Speaker 11: that microphone on your face. You usually get the player
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  Speaker 11: and coach saying the right thing. But every now and
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  Speaker 11: then you get a coach who loses it or a
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  Speaker 11: player who may slip and say something that he shouldn't.
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  Speaker 10: You know, this guy has a track workord of saying
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  Speaker 10: the wrong thing. Apparently is what you're saying. It's disrespectful
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  Speaker 10: and you know it's bad for the game. It's bad
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  Speaker 10: for the entire entertainment aspect of the game. So I
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  Speaker 10: hate to see that, to be honest with you, but
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  Speaker 10: you know, it's they put a lot of time to
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  Speaker 10: this thing.
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  Speaker 11: They didn't hate their whole lives to it. They basically
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  Speaker 11: sacrifice their families to coach. You know, it's a full
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  Speaker 11: time gig.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 11: These guys are putting in crazy hours and it's super competitive,
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  Speaker 11: and in the nil era, they're probably not competing at
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  Speaker 11: the highest level. You know, just just in that conference Clemson,
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  Speaker 11: you know, Miami Florida State. You know, you got Belichick,
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  Speaker 11: you know, less less than five miles away from him.
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  Speaker 11: So it's tough, you know, But but you knew that
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  Speaker 11: when you signed up. You know, that's why they pay
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  Speaker 11: you the big bucks to be a professional, to try
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  Speaker 11: to do things right. And if you can't get the
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  Speaker 11: game right, you got to at least win the press conference.
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  Speaker 11: You gotta at least win the post game conference, you know.
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  Speaker 11: I mean that's there are opportunities there to to speak
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  Speaker 11: to your alumni group, to speak to your administration, to
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  Speaker 11: speak to your players, and you got to take advantage
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  Speaker 11: of that, you know. So this guy, obviously he's feeling
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  Speaker 11: the pressure. There are relevant. Uh and uh, and what
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  Speaker 11: I think is a average conference compared to the others,
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  Speaker 11: and you expect more from this guy. So you know,
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  Speaker 11: with him losing games where he's losing I mean Campbell,
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  Speaker 11: I mean again, like you just said, there are people
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  Speaker 11: out there who don't ever know that, you know, Campbell
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  Speaker 11: had a football team. There are people out there who
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  Speaker 11: don't you know that Campbell was a university, so, you know,
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  Speaker 11: and to really to barely beat them and probably speaks
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  Speaker 11: to the you know, what's really going on.
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  Speaker 10: They're not good.
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  Speaker 11: He's the leader, he's steering the ship. And what he
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  Speaker 11: realizes it's on him. It's it is on him, you
• 18:13
  Speaker 11: know at the end of the day. So you see
• 18:15
  Speaker 11: this guy unraveling, you see him losing the stuff, being disrespectful,
• 18:20
  Speaker 11: and that's that's how you get yourself out of a
• 18:22
  Speaker 11: job and losing five million.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Dollars I point two five million, Tommy, that's something that
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: blew me away with some of his comments that they're
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: painting this guy five point two five million dollars. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the last five weeks haven't been good. The losses that
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm pointing out about this guy have been in double digits.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I mean and Virginia Tech is in transition. Let me
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: tell you, there isn't any person out there that had
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: more compassion for coaches at a press conference than I do. George,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and I ain't Tommy, you know, and a lot of
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: people know. But I've been there. I understand that, Hey,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it's tough to be able to thank so after the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: fact they need of cooling off there. I know that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he's not dealing with a plenty year old kid. He
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: deal with a sixty three year old man that's been
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: around there a long time. I do understand. Yeah, maybe
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you didn't think it was the lighthearted moment to talk
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: about your birthday. I get that, but this is something
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that hit my heart a little bit. I'm a human
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: being too, I am, and there's just something I thought
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool now that I expected to get the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: amount of attention now I didn't. And I'll tell you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: one thing, everything about Dave dorn by the way, is
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: going to be a lesson so to the microphone part too.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So he'll definitely never forget. I'll never forget about this guy, because,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: if anything, not only do I have a pretty interesting
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: show to teach people here out there about the ethics
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to do a thing, but he just found himself in
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a place you don't want to be in. And when
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I write this next book, Dave, I'll thank you very
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: much for giving me some good, solid content to put
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in his next book. I promise you, I'll be thanking
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you now, by the way, Dave, for whatever it's worth.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you in an acc media day,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: which I have now penciled in my calendar, and maybe
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: we'll a little luck. I might even catch in a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: ball game so we can go in to round two
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Marvin Hagler versus Thomas earned for Round two of the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: sequel that we're about to probably see because I'm not
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: finishing you that day. This is just beginning to night.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, glad to have you on. We're just getting
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: warmed up. So time I'm gonna ask you a question.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: What do you think that his future looks like in Raleigh?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Is he losing the locker room? Because these series of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: losses in the manner that he is losing, it doesn't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: look too good for him.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: Now, he's always good with his players. His players like him.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: You know, he might make mistakes dealing with the media,
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: but his players like him. His athletic director likes him.
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: Blue Corgan is the athletic director. He recently said that
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: he will evaluate him at the end of the year,
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: be like Mike Loxley's situation where Maryland's having a tough
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: season and Maryland a D came out and said he'll
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: be back next year and we have to get a
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: more or you know, talking about nil money, because that's
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: where it is. State always loses, They lose players on
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: nil money. They lost their best receiver last year. He's
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: now at Texas a m A and M Casey concepts
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: he owned, so, uh, it's tough to say how it's
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: gonna turn out. His kids, Uh are his kids aren't
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: have moved on, They're they're not in high school anymore.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: So you know, maybe he has more time for coaching
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: than uh. You know, some of the family demands are
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: what they were before. But it's just hard to say
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: because the college football world has just turned upside down.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: It's not just a matter of winning and losing anymore.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: It's a matter of are the donors gonna give money?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: And uh, donor fatigue is always a tough situation. So
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: if the ad says we're gonna wait till the end
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: of the season, we got to wait to the end
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: of the season. See what happens.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but as Marvin said, you have to win the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: press conference and show a little dignity behind the mic.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: We're not asking for a lot, Dave, We're asking something
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: called dignity. Your fifty three year old man be fifty
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: four years old. Of course, I'll never forget your birthday.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Better after all this, I never will forget it. I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: would think anybody in his fifties should figure out and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: get it right and show a bit of maturity because
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you have to at least represent the university in a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: way where at least you represent the face of it.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So with that said, Tom, obviously and everybody. It was
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: announced today that NC State will face Virginia and Brazil
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six and that will be an ECC contest,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: So obviously NC State will be actually taken to brand
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: worldwide again. Virginia. Let's go around the horn.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Let me, let me get this said. I wanted to
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: get something.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, this is the thing about Dave Dorn here, it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: It's one thing if you're like, if you're Adamo Switty
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: and you had all those wins before nil came, that's
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: completely understood if you're a little bit grouchy. But here's
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Dave Dorin twelve years, three and nine, eighty five, seven
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: to six, seven to six, nine and four, ninety four,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: four eight, eight and four, nine and three, eight and five,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: nine and four, six and seven, five and five and
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: probably five and five and seven after the sustain all right.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: This is the thing if he if he was doing it,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: he is not won in any era. This is the
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: thing about. He gets this girl and he's he's probably
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: the way he's grouchy. He's probably putting in the eighteen
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: hour days like they talk about the ones that's that
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: the you know, the ones that some coaches will say,
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: don't do eighteen hours, spend with your family. You guys
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about. He's probably doing those hours,
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: and he's got that kind of record. The thing is,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: if you here's the deal. This is the only school
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: that's ever gonna give him that much time for that
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: little winning. Truthfully, that's the only school. I mean, how
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: long was James Franklin there.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And then says the twelve years of least I think
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, but it took mc come ver
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: But it took him to finally that the finally could
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: not win the games that he should win because he
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: was one of those all those years for him to go.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: This guy's won no big games ever, and he has
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: he's lost a lot of small ones. Right, So the
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: big thing about this is the fact that this is
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: going to catch up with.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: A lot of other schools when he wants to get
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: a job.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Right, because if you did have the kind of record
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: that this guy has, it's twenty two over five hundred,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: mind you, he'll get he would get himself a job
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: and he would have knowledge.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: But they're also.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Looking for a little bit of entertainment value and he's
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: as blad as you get plus a crouch. So this
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: is the this is the social media air that spreads
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: all around. So this isn't going to help him whatsoever.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: That's one point anybody else want to add to. This
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: is one of those things are not calling on anybody arbitrarily.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I want everybody to have the ability to go out
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there and contribute as we go along.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to add that. Yeah, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: mean that is a remarkable, terrible performance against the Miami Hurricanes. Okay,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: so I can understand, well, you're a little upset, a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: little upset, Well, uh, you got to hand it in
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a professional way. Okay, you got your butt kicked. You
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: allowed over five hundred totally hours from the offense, Hurricanes offense.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And I think I just echoed the sentiments of the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: guys that had already been honest but speaking because you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: his record is is like middle of the pack stuff.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: It's not the exemplary kind of coaching record that you
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: would expect for a man getting that much money. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I know the tremendous pressure is on Jacob. We all know. Okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you know all this stuff going on and I l
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and the players jumping after one year, two years and
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: moving all around, all this crap going on. But you
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: gotta handle yourself professionally. You gotta be somebody that I'm
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: gonna look up to. And his performance is not something
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I would look up to in those locker rooms. He
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: is not keeping us cool. Period. That's how I feel, Scott.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Anybody else, this is a wide olden time.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Real quickly, it's old. It's just that old.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: He probably had a dad that coached somewhere, some high
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: school wherever. We don't know the story, but they that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: what they didn't know. The scream and holler and scream,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: and this is what I brought up in punted before.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: They scream at holler and think they're tough, you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: and and what you ever, if you ever look at
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: there's these little classes that a lot of these Navy
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: seals called the stoics, and they called this. They says,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: if you lose your temper, you're a child. And a
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: lot of these coaches could really use that. It's because
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the ones that keep their cool and keep their mind
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: and keep everything going to the ones that usually win,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: start to win a little more.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: It's because they kind of keep there.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: It's like you, truthfully, a lot of the ones, a
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: lot of the ones we talk about from the from
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: college or whatever. We're just saying from pros Mike Tomlin,
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: you don't see him get dumb. You don't see him
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: get too steamed up too often, you know, I mean
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: he gets steamed to them to their face where the
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: camera don't see.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: We've seen a couple of those little deals, but you
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: don't see it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: On the thing where he gets dumb steamed up at
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: the refs and yells and hollers and raises his voice.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: That's one of the things. It's like coaches now happened
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: should have a.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Lot more of an understanding what gets into the kids'
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: minds to how to win. And I'm not saying, like
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I said to you, Marvin, I'm not saying they should
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: not just yell at a certain time, because kids still
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: do want tough love. They just want it. They just
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: want it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: Pick and choose, right, I'm sorry, Go ahead.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I mean they want to pick and choose, like they
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: do want a dad, if you will, out of them
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: don't have dads.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: They do want a dad. They do want to be reminded.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: They just don't want it all the time where their
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: feelings are hurt all the time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: Go ahead, yeah, I mean so, I think what he's
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: missing out on is the fact that when you're yelling
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: and custinant players, which you know all coaches do, or
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: he's still coaching staff, you got.
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: To be strategic, you know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: I mean the message you give to a player, to
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: a team, pregame, at halftime, at the end of the game,
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: in the locker room and then what you say to
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: the media.
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: You have to be strategic in how you go about that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: And again that's we're talking about emotional intelligence and emotional
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: intelligence and just being aware of the moment and aware
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: of the opportunity. Saving is great at that. Mike Tomlin
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: is great at that. You know what I'm saying, Like
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: they these guys get on these players' ascids, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: but and they and they talk to the media in
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: a certain way. But they're strategic. It makes sense, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: know what I mean, And you understand where they're coming from.
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: You can't just fly off the handle for everything and
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: just you know, lose it. That's not leadership at all.
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: And you know, this guy doesn't get it. We have
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: way too much information out there in regards to leadership
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: and and and emotional intelligen Jensen. He's not subscribing to
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: the new information at all. Like like that, Jacob was saying,
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: this guy has an old school approach without the strategy,
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: and it's showing up.
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: It shows up as a meltdown.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Well, remember the thing we talk about, did we talk
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: about Bear Bryant. One of the things you always saw
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: is yeah, he but you remember you the way that
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: the media always made him and everything, and it's like
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: he was tough on us players. We heard about the
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: junction boys, we heard about these things. But the big
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: thing about it is you always saw is the media
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: had him protected. You where we saw him yell. He
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: sounded locked this you know that, and it's like, yeah, yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: he sounded and locked in and they're like, well, yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: No, no, but he sounded like that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: But the biggest but the biggest thing about it is
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: you want something like that because in truth, Marvin, to me,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: that's more dangerous individual. I'm not saying that he was
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: like that, I'm saying to me, but you brought with Tomlin.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: That's a more dangerous individual than the guy that yells
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: all the time because he had never known you get
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: my point.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like the it's kind of like the
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: quiet the.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Special Forces guy m and he was probably a hundred
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: and fifty pounds.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: You never know.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And we've learned this part that the screaming does nothing
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: if you do that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: So much, right, yeah, because players go tones up after
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: a while. You know, the reality is when you deal
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: with a player, sometimes you put your arm around him.
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: Sometimes you got them. Sometimes you cust them out, sometimes
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: you pray with them. Sometimes you know so. But again
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: it's about being strategic and that goes with being a
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: great head coach and understanding leadership and understanding that it's
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: really it's by any means necessary, But again it has
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: to be strategic. You can't just go up during this,
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: you know, poop the bed, you know what I'm saying,
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: which he does. It's just that's that's not You're losing
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: people like that. So I agree with I agree with you, Jacob.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean strategic is what it is. Let me
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: tell you one thing that Georges again likes a chess match.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: He's losing it badly with his record and not winning
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the press conferences. And I'm gonna get to something about
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Mario Chris in just a few moments, and now you'll
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: know the difference between you talk about the difference between
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a Cadillac versus a Chevy, this guy between when you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: compare Mario Crystal Will versus this guy. Mario's easily a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Cadillac compared to this guy who's he'd get Vegas status
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm conferred, George, because you and I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: know how much those are or pinos.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Damn this is.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: That's how badly these things are. Because if guy pulling
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: up a big cast paint for unnecessary reasons, he really
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: really is. Let me continue on. This is an ongoing conversation.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Tonight I'll sprinkle of other couple of things in there
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that'll certainly hit a lot of basis. Today it was
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: announced the NC State WILF bath Virginia in Brazil in
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six as an acc contest. Who knows whether
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: or not this guy will be the head coat. Time
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: will tell. I'm not going to be premature on this.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: So George, when here talks about NC statesil Virginia in Brazil.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Well, in light of what's happening now with the great
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: international interest in football, it doesn't surprise me. I wouldn't
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: have been the Marquee matchup. I probably would have wanted.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, no offense to those two schools.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But you know, there was a rumor, as we know
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: that was squashed by It wasn't a rumor Michigan pulled
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: out of a game against a week team too Western Michigan.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: They were going to go to an international game. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is all this in due respect though,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: because the players themselves are the ones that are going
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: to have the greatest learning experience. But they've got to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: be ready for this trip. They've got to be ready.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: They've got to be disciplined. No late nights out that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: very tempting. Trust me. I know the very Brazilians have
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a great reputation for partying. I ran into a group
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of them once at a conference I was at in
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: New Orleans. But getting back to your point, Scott, yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's good. I mean it's good for
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the conference, it's good for those two schools. But you
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: better have the you know, have enough, have enough preparations
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: made for you and the staff to watch over these
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: kids and obviously keep it, keep it in a good
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: professional order. And that's the thing that he has to do.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: Cany you know, for the for these players, it's probably
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: a trip of a lifetime because i mean, let's face it,
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: how often do they get to go to Brazil and
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: so depending on how much time they're allotted over there to.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: See if they can see any of the sites.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: But it also is a good recruiting tool, like hey,
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: we're going to be playing an international game. We're going
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: for international flavor like that that could only help in recruiting.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: So kudos to them for that. I just hope they
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: play on a better surface than the NFL team did
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: over in Brazil because I worry about college there, you know,
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: their health too, because let's face it, NFL players are
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: already you know, in the pros. These college kids are
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: trying to get to the pros. So you'd hate to
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: see any bad injuries happen, you know, on a bad field.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: That would be that would That's just one of my
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: concerns though. And the other the one last concern is
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: when the Packers went over there, I know they told
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: them don't veer from your hotel, like, don't go out
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: on your own, So I would I would caution the
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: college kids to you know, not do the same as well.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: All right, Marvin at Brazil, that's a big deal.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: I was trying to go to Brazil for my bachelor party,
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: but my my then fiance said, no, uh, these guys
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: that listen, these guys you got you got boys, uh
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: you know in North Carolina who the first time they've
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: been on the plane was on a recruiting trip. You
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: know what I'm saying that, So when you go into
• 34:51
  Speaker 11: someone's house and you're talking about, Hey, we going to
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: a You're going to Brazil, the beaches, the weather, the climate,
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: the culture.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: That's you know that that's that's a big turn on. Man,
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: that's a big deal.
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: That would definitely impact someone's decisions who want to go
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: to a school there.
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: I think it's great, man.
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: I love you know, I'm a football nerd, so I
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: love to see the game expanding.
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: At the end of the day, it's not a game.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: It's a business.
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: We all forget that, whether it's even high school now,
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: but college and pro is not about the game. It's
• 35:16
  Speaker 11: about the money, and they're pushing that brand, and they're
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: trying to get you know, people all over the world
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: going for their university. They're trying to entice these kids.
• 35:26
  Speaker 11: I think it's a good thing and I'm excited for
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: these young kids who can travel abroad play football. It
• 35:31
  Speaker 11: just enhances that college experience and it just has tremendous
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: impact on you when you can go somewhere and see
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: different cultures. Again, a lot of these kids in Carolina,
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: it is not not just North Carolina, but a lot
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: a lot of kids, you know, are sheltered and don't
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: leave their state, don't travel a lot. So it's it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: a big deal and I think it's a good thing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, game, Glad to have you in the chat room.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: We will be bringing you on next week. Considering the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: nature of the topic tonight, I felt like I had
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: to go to the six individuals tonight that we're closer
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to the situation. They talked about what her objective was.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So thanks for contributing. The chat room will definitely be
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: in touch time.
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Yeah, their copy in the NFL. You see
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: more and more college games go ahead overseas. In fact,
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: there's been games at least six straight years in Ireland
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: and uh interestingly with n C State and Virginia are
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: going to play in Brazil. North Carolina and TCU are
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: going to play in Ireland next year. So that's two
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: of the teams from the triangle that are going to
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: be going out of the country. But yeah, it's it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: getting more common, the football spreading. I want to comment
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: on one other thing. George said, you know, Michigan bailed
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: out out a game against Ohio State.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Tom, it wasn't Ohio State, Yeah, I was during the pandemic.
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: They didn't play.
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and Michigan and Michigan State was told they didn't
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: have to play against Michigan when it was discovered they
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: were cheating, stealing signs and had Michigan assistant coaches dressed
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: up in central Michigan gear on the Michigan State sideline,
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: and the Big Tan told Michigan State they didn't have
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: to play the game Michigan State one had played anyways.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: Jacob I got to follow up on your Bear Bryant comment.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: O'Brian was a master manipulator of the media. This guy
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: dragged his feet on integration into the nineteen seventies. But
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: if you listen to the media, he got out. He
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: got when they played the USC in the nineteen seventy game,
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: he got a traveler USC's horse rode out to the
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: middle of the field and yelled to the crowd, we
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: want black players at Alabama now. We just don't want
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: black people voting.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Though no, I know about I I notes about him,
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: and he is I'm not.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, every especially in that era, there's the good
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: and the bad everybody period, and there's those things.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: I understand, But so what was the good?
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: No I'm saying, but I'm just talking about the world
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: in general.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: And I talked about him, but but I'm talking about
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the world in general.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: It's like there's the ones.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: It's like, it's just I think it's just perspective to
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: the people that are around him.
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: That just always is. But it's like, especially when there
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: are people that may not have had it or their dad,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: they't along with their dads. He's my father. Yeah, but
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: you know that kind of deal. But what I have
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: the biggest thing.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: About it is, in truth, his last three or four
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: years were his assistant coaches anyway, especially the Liberty Bowl,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: so he just got what happens.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: He just got old and then he basically died after
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: he retired. So there's things, but.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: The really really overall early overall, bring it up, you
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: bring it up, bear, It's just I never I missed
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: him by I first started watching football, just say.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: In eighty four. He's gone by eighty three, maybe.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Eighty two, you know, so I never saw anything at all.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I just heard the stories and it's and I think
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: he faced Illinois in the final in his final game.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Was that true Alabama? Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah. Really,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: By the thing is he he was just the master
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: of timing. I'll say this, it was just the master
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: of timing and the fact that he just goes his
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: assistant did the deal, and he left old and he
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: didn't and he.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Did pass away all that stuff.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: But guess what he didn't end up by Tom Landry,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Tom Lean Tom Landry went three years too long, four
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: years too long.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: Alabama also played the sixty nine Liberty Bowl against Colorado,
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: and Bear Bryant sent forty white players out as captains.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: And when the three Colorado captains were coming out to
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: them are white, one it was black. The two white
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: captains said, we're not gonna put up with us, and
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: they told their black teammate Greg Pruet to go up
• 40:07
  Speaker 8: there and represent them. You're gonna be our representative against
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: those guys. Was still all white back then.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: He got here's the thing he met, his main thing,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: you're right, manipulation. He got into the world where it
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: was we've got to remember it by itself.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: It went down. He once had a world where it
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: was Kennedy.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Then LBJ LBJ does the Civil Rights Act, you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: it does all of that stuff thinks start to change,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: but not yet. There's that movie Mississippi Burning. You remember
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: that Marvin, of course. Yeah, there's a movie Mississippi Burning.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: He had all of those a holes if you will. Yeah,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: all those that we saw in their very just very
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: very good movie, very the serving one.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: But you saw that. You want to know why he says,
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: we do you want the black players now? Because it
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: was changing.
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: By nineteen seven, d Alabama was the seventh of ten
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: SEC schools to integrate, and thirty three of thirty seven
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: major Southern programs were integrated. Brian any standard, Brian by
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: any standards at the back of the line, and he
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: gets credit for being at the front.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Who was last, Joe.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Guess? Yeah, So, Jacob, I have a quick question for you.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I want to continue to things go, but I love this.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Anytime we get a Shanny Report reference to Baron Bryant,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I have to let it go with you guys, because
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I know anything could come out of it. And don't
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: worry Shanny. You'll have time to talk about Shanahan Report
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: even more to table and I know you know the thing.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: Is the true pioneers Kentucky the second in sixty six
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: Tennessee and sixty seven Auburn bear Bryan's cross state in
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: state rival sixty nine. Bear Brian was at the back
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: of the line.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Not totally. He'll just say not totally.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Lying back, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, my god, you're incredible man.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: Two years. I've never gotten their credit they deserve. It's
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: because of Bear Bryan mythology.
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: Tom, you give USC any credit for what they did
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: to them Alabama boys when they went out to Birmingham.
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: No, because the USC was slow to integrated as well.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Usc U.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: USC was one of the schools following the Unwritten quart
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: of only having a half dozen black players.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Well the truth, truth is, everybody was slow and let's
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: just be honest everybody.
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but now, but time when they went out there
• 42:48
  Speaker 11: with Sam Bam Cunningham, they were calling USC Grambling.
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: They had so many black players.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: They had eighteen and there were only four seniors. The
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: rest of them are all eleven of them are junior
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: college transfers. John McKay was slow to go beyond a
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: half dozen black players. Sixty seven National championship, they only
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: had seven and one of them was O. J. Simpson
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: from San Francisco. You're telling me in Los Angeles you
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: can't find more than a half dozen black kids.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: He was more than happy to use all those black
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: players for his losing teams in the Tampa Bay.
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: Absolutely he did, all right.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So Jacob, quick question, Okay, what are your talks about
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Nancy's date basing Virginia and Brazil.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: If Darren's still there, he's gonna be like the headmaster
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: of some school or something like that. He'll be in
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: the hallways making sure they're still in their rooms. He's
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: gonna be no fun whatsoever. That's the the way he acts.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: He's gonna be no fun whatsoever. It was like, mind you,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: you don't want them out onto the thing. He's gonna
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: be protective, but he's gonna go over the top making sure.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: So that's so if there's a new coach, they're probably
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: gonna have some fun. If there's if it's still Dave
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: dor and it is gonna be a headmaster.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Time, I can only imagine. So let me give some
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: advice to the coach. Okay, and I think this is
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: very sounded, But coach, you certainly didn't mind telling me
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and every other people and that particular conference that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: take your job seriously. Okay. I haven't had a chance
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to do this tonight, really seriously, really really seriously. Really,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I take my job seriously too. I wrote a network,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I wrote an online publication, and I'm an author and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I'm doing of course, now you're gonna be part of
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: my next book. Thank you very much.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: Coach.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I get something out of this whole thing after all. Okay,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: but at first I'm concerned. Okay, you're you know, once
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: upon a time, this guy who actually worked for Wisconsin
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: as an assistant coach, right, and who's the mascot for Wisconsin,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: is named Bucky the Badger. And I'm telling you, a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Bucky Badger. I have a cat named after you, named Bucky.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: A bucket Badger too, is a favor. Take a trip
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: over to Rawley and I I think I need you
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to take a baseball vet and knock a little bit
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of sense into Dave Darrin. Bucky Badger. I need your
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: help knock some sense into Dave Dort because this guy
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: gotten picking needs it. He really. I take my job seriously, okay, goat,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I take my job seriously. Okay. I'll guarantee you I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: will make sure that there's enough juice in this comment
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to play it in front of you when I see
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you the next time, because I will let you know
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: how much I take my job seriously and for the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: last forty seven years I have been throughout my whole
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: working life. So Coach Doran, I look forward to our
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: past pros because you know something, Just a reminder to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: mister Doran. Okay, Marshall McLuhan, there's a little media lesson
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: for those of you out there tuning in for the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: first time. Okay, Marshall mclu and anybody ever remember him.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people raise hands. Anybody remember him?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe not? Maybe George might. Marsa McLuhan once said, the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: medium is the message. Former Detroit Piston center O Lambard
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: never got an NBA assist a job past the Minnesota Timberwolves,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: although he was working with Kurt Rambis, who was with
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the Laker, who on an irony pissing in the Laker
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: being on the same staff, and nobody else would hire him,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you know, Miyan Lambert never got a head coaching job
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: because of this. Okay, he had poor media relations with
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the press, right George, This guy didn't get along with
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: us as well, and he killed them with the politics.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, let me remind mister Dorn another thing Okay,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you're not Jim Belvano. Jim Valvano to me is unquestionably
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest coaches in college basketball history. And
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm sure, Tommy, they got to have
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: a statue of him somewhere up in rolegh right, I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: do have. And Jim Valvano died way too early because
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: of cancer. Every time I did an opportunity to donate
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the cancer I always go to the v Foundation. And
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: because Dick by Tel is in charge of Jim Valvano
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: is inspiring, Well, you know my advice to you, miss
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Dorns You're on inspiring. You're anything but Valvano. You're uninspiring,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and Valvano is inspiring. I have never asked a question.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I never asked anybody a question about birthdays. All I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: did was simply mention it is a casual comment, and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that was about it. Let me tell you I had
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go ahead and speak to coach John Wooden. Tommy,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: is your pass ever across with John Wooden at all.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: Not when he was coaching a game. I've been around
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: him otherwise.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know everybody knows that John Wooden pyramids
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: of success in a lot of people's eyes to me
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is legendary. Well, you know what, I had an opportunity
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: interview coach John Wooden, and he would he once told
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: up from me, Tommy and everybody stand up for what
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you believe in. And that's what we all try to do.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Okay now, And I've always gone out there. And when
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I think about his pyramids of success, I have those
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: in my office and I often tend to look at
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: it a lot. I don't care if he's had twenty
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: two NFL players pick a deal. Mario Cristobal had twenty
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: at his pro day last year, twenty at his pro day.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Go only knows howbody exacted. His other stops at FIU
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: was by the way he produces top Ty Hilton, right,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Ty Hilton is a pretty good player in his day,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and how many Prosy produced their organ and what he's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: doing at Miami. So Candy w don't want so after
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: this what I'm gonna tell you right now, But this
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: guy gone out there. As far as I'm concerned, Crystal's
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: done an awful lot more thing. But the biggest thing
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I like about working with Mario Crystabal is this, he
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: never ever treats the media poorly. Never, I've never seen
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a guy so I will never call out a media
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: person never, no matter what the question is. He's a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: cool cat. This guy is what he is because he
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: knows that he like Marvin says right that in order
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: to breathe life into your program, you gotta only win
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the presser. But you don't want to bite the hand
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that feeds you. So, as far as I'm concerned, my
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: feelings about this guy is he does not belong as
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a head coach. The proper place for Dave Dorn is
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: he belongs as an assistant coach. To keep this guy
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: as far away from the microphone as possible. When you're
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: an assistant coach, you have a reduced role with the media.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: A good place would be the NFL, but I have
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: an even better place for him. I know everybody will
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: get a kick out of this one. He belongs in
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that league called the SFL. You know what that stands for.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna get it the Siberian Football League. Everybody I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: am founding the Sidburian Football League. Get him out of here.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: We don't need him. Okay, So today, when your career
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: is gone, we're gonna send you to Siberian Football League.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: If that isn't good enough, I can think of other
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: places too, but this is a somewhat g rated show tonight,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: you're PG. I won't go to the other places I
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: could go, but.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Will still be five and five in the Siberian Football League.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Well that's good enough, but at least he won't have
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: to talk to us in the media anyway. Nobody won't
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: care coach football that and you don't even coach that
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: that well, to begin with, I don't care about your
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: stupid record, big deal. What have you done if you
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: want any major college championships or anything that puts you
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: in the map where you got to talk to us?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Obviously nobody in the industry, and I'll think you're testing
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: your a douchebag and a lot of other things that
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I've already mentioned. But keep this guy away from the microphone.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: To me, as far as I'm concerned, if he gets
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: near a microphone, he needs tecto bismo because he's got
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: diarrhea of the mouth at the wrong time. This guy,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: he really does I'm gonna tell you something, Okay, Well,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: i'll tell you. Everybody knows that I won't be sending
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: him a birthday card. Oh no, but I'll never forget
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: when his birthday is safe to say, Marvin, you ever
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: seen me go off like this before, because I'll tell you.
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: We've had We've had one topic. We've gone an hour
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: on his dude, I do have a couple. If he
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: wasn't five the show, he's gonna be fired after the show.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: No, that's my accomplishory, because you know what, I'm glad
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you brought that up. That's a good segue. Okay, many
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: many years ago, I dealt with a woman by the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: name of Carolyn Renfro when I would working with the
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Tampa Tribune. I asked this woman one time, Carolyn, I
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: need to do me a favorite a woman in college. Well, no,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: we did get in a little topic because Tommy was
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: nice enough to bring in Bear Bryant. So we have
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: one and a half topics. But it's okay, we need
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: to bury the lead a little so we can get
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: back to the lead. But Tommy's the title. He gets
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a Shanahan report a little bit later.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: I also brought up Michigan for for the game against
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: the Last.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: And that too, so we have a topic in three
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: quarters Martin. But that's Okay, that's our Tommy can incorporate
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: any of that historycause a lot of people certainly go
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: back to that when we hashtag it right anyhow, But
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: let's go back to Carolyn Renfro when I was working
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: at the Tampa Tribune high school basketball coach. I believe
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it was in the Greater Tampa are I don't remember
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: exactly where it was. I said, listen, miss Renfro, I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: need to talk to you, no matter how bad this
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: turns out or good, I need no problem before the game.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: You know, Tommy, you have to establis things before the game,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: so you know what you have to do afterwards, right
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to try to build a relationships. Well, guess what Carolyn decided.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to him because I got
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: my butt kicked. Great stuff, Carolyn, I'm getting I'm working
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: for the Tribune as a correspondent. I'm getting two stories
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: to cover one game. Right. I'll know whatice like. Back
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: in the day, when you're broken, you get paid for
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: every story you're right and those that you haven't been
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: in it. And trust me, it's not an easy way
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to survive when you're paying rent among other things. She
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: didn't do it, but Luckily I was smart enough even
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: back then to go out there and talk to the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: assistant coach and one of her players through under the bus.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: She denied that I had my tape recorder played at
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the others. They backed me. That woman nearly did get fired,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and I kept applying pressure on her like you wouldn't believe. Then,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I'll telling you it was ugly for miss Rentrol. So
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see something happen and mister Doran many
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: years ago, because after all, mister Doran, I take my
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: job certausly. Okay, I do, I really do. And I'll
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: tell you what. What we're gonna do now is candy.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about we're going to give mister
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Doran a little bit of a lesson how you really
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: deal with the media, because we know you're awfully bad
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: at it. So what we're going to do with play
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: a clip from Frank Wright, and we're going to talk
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: about put another one up there from Jeff Brome, And
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what. Let me preface these
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: comments all worry mar but we got more juice with
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a couple of other topics there. I have to leave
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff in here. To I only
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: have one week to get out of my system, and
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I'm thankful using tonight as I don't view it as therapy,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: but I think it's some of those things that if
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you're in the media, that young writers and people in
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the business that you're going to deal with people like this,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and I think when you're veteran and you're able to
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: understand that, and the fact that I get at least
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to crush him in my book because of
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: something that should never have happened in the firthplace is
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: what it is. But here's a lesson right now, taking
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a lesson of turning a negative into a positive. Let
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: me preface the source one off about Frank Wright. Everybody
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: knows that he's the all time that he went out
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: there and led the Bills to the biggest come back
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: in the NFL history. How many people remember that game?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Sure a lot of people do, right my hands. Okay, well,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you know what, I go back to my time with
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Frank Reich, back when I was with the Lions in
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: ninety seven and ninety You want to say it's a
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: little bit of hooked up with being teammates that Frank
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: was there anytime I needed, even say, after a good
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: ceding against Scott. It really was we shook hands. So
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you know what, Frank, I really need you tonight, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: they I'll tell you, I think you need to teach
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: mister Doran a little listen how to deal with us,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: because I'll tell you what tonight. I feel like I'm
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a pitbull and a doverment picture and you're the target
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: that I have tonight. So that said, Candy, go ahead
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and put Frank Reich up. Will everybody comment on Frank right?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And then we'll come back to Jeff Rome. You had
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: another classy individual, Louivill. I'm sure Tommy you've had good
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: interactions with not only Right, but probably Jeff Rome too.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: Now? Really I haven't been around their teams.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brome is great, Reich is better. Candy, go to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: the tape.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Any particular order? Which one you want first?
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually do. I want you to go out
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: there and put I want you to go ahead and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: put right up first.
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: Okay, let me get that one.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I forgot to miss for my first name in
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a philiate Scott Moorean of South Florida Tribune, So obviously
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I know your background is a guy that had arguably
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: the greatest comeback in NFL history in the playoffs. Do
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you use that as an opportunity to let your kids
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: know that you have to play all the way to
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the final staff and use it as a teaching moment
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: for these guys, because you know, I don't know how
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: many of them know about Yogi Barra. It's not over
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: till it's over. But you led by example by doing that,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and that's a good teaching tool since you're at college
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to be able to tell it to these students because
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: they are student athletes.
• 55:51
  Speaker 12: No, absolutely, Scott, I appreciate the question and the sentiment.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't make it.
• 55:57
  Speaker 10: I don't overplay my career, but.
• 56:01
  Speaker 12: I do pick key lessons you know that, right that
• 56:03
  Speaker 12: can help us be a better team, Right, I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 12: that's really all that matters. There's something that can help
• 56:09
  Speaker 12: us be a better football team, then I'm gonna draw
• 56:12
  Speaker 12: from that experience and I'll talk about it when necessary,
• 56:16
  Speaker 12: But really the focus is, you know, on our system,
• 56:19
  Speaker 12: what we're doing. But yes, I have to talk to
• 56:21
  Speaker 12: them about that over the course of my time there,
• 56:24
  Speaker 12: and lessons learned through those kids games.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: There you go, you talk about a guy who can
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: take it that situation leading a big comeback and try
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: to instill that in his young players. And I mentioned
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Yogi bearra at not over until it's over. Okay, Marvin,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: we could call this a topic and a phone if
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: you don't mind. Okay, because now this is a lesson
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: from Frank Wright. Okay, we're your thoughts about Frank Raich,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: not only as a player but as a coach. Obviously
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: know something of tough It was a tough deal that
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: he had in Carolina, but his overall body of work
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: as a player and an individual, he comes to Clross
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: as a class at Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: Absolutely, he's a pro. He's he's a pro. Obviously, he's
• 57:04
  Speaker 11: somebody who's been groomed well. He's been under great leadership,
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: whether it's you know, at home growing up or his
• 57:12
  Speaker 11: and his coaches have impacted him. But you know, as
• 57:15
  Speaker 11: a player, I mean you said it, man, the greatest
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: comeback ever college and pro, I believe. And I remember, yeah,
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: I remember him very well as a young kid watching football,
• 57:26
  Speaker 11: and I think in the pros when he was he
• 57:29
  Speaker 11: was a Buffalo and they beat Houston?
• 57:30
  Speaker 10: Is that correct?
• 57:31
  Speaker 11: Is that who they beat? I remember watching that game
• 57:33
  Speaker 11: against Warren Moon, one of my favorite players. And uh
• 57:35
  Speaker 11: and then obviously in college when he was at Maryland,
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: I forgot who they beat. Was it the Canes who
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: they came back can beat? But nevertheless, I'm I'm a
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: fake rank, I'm a fan.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: I think I think he got a raw deal in Carolina.
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: You know, I think he understands the game, understands the players,
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: understands the culture of a player in the locker room.
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: And I think that's reflected in what you just saw
• 57:56
  Speaker 11: at the press conference. You know, that's he's just classy man.
• 57:59
  Speaker 11: Class see. Classy wins at the end of the day.
• 58:01
  Speaker 11: For me, that's how I was raised. I don't believe
• 58:04
  Speaker 11: in ego and disrespect when it comes to leadership, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 11: I think he represents the right things.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Tommy, Yeah, well.
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: You know, look at how he ended up at Stanford.
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: Andrew Luck made a tough decision. He had to fire
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: as coach I think late March early April because he
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: was bullying staff members. That's not a good time to
• 58:26
  Speaker 8: be finding a new coach. But he had a relationship
• 58:29
  Speaker 8: with Frank Reich, and Frank Reich just like the backup
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: quarterback that he was that came in and le comebacks.
• 58:37
  Speaker 8: He stepped in and it has done a great job
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: at Stanford. Stanford has been in a bad situation for
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: a while. Tell it wise, they haven't participated in the
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: transferred portal at all. I think they have more players
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: on their transferred portal this year than they had the
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: previous three or four years the portal was open combined.
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: So yeah, Frank Reich, he got a bad deal with Carol.
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: He was working for a bad owner. But Frank Wright
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: has always been a classic guy.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he sure has.
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: Jacob a little story real fast.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: That's going to go back on to the point years
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: ago Kurt Warner on the Don Laid Show David Letterman,
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: they go outside and throw his ball and it's raining
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: like crazy.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: They go back into.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: The thing and all the backstage people are going, here's
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: the shirt, here's a shirt, and he's like, chill, it's
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: a shirt.
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: It's a I mean, it's like, goes back to Frank Reich.
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: You have the other.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Guy bullying, and there are probably on eggshells already.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: He probably knew it. He probably knew it, he'd probably
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: seen it.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: So there are probably ones that are already on egg
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: shells and he's probably chill, Chill, I've got you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: It's like, we're gonna get to this and it's like
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: there are ones that you talk about emotional intelligence and Marvin,
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: there are just ones that understand that you kind of
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: have the comment sense to understand the situation that these.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: Ones have been in.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Coaches know every coach. It's a fraternity.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: They know there.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: They may not know well, but they.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Know their aspects and the way they know they're so
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: they're gonna know that school or that thing, whether it's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: pro or cop, They're gonna know their aspect. They're gonna
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: know what their thought process was. They know the difference
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: between them and on him. They know the difference. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: that's the big thing. That's what makes a Frank Reig.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: And the thing is when Frank Reich is done, he'll
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: probably be in another school. That's probably the dealing with
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: a bully and he'll probably you replacing that one. Also,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: that's probably his career and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Frank Greig is unbelievable. And we're gonna get to another
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: class act and that's Jeff Brown, Tommy, if you can
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: hang on this a little bit. We have some other
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: stuff we want to get to that will certainly apply you.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: We appreciate that.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: I'll be right back. I gotta switch out real quick.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, go ahead, Candy.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: You know Frank right, former NFL quarterback, like you said,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: current interim head football coach. So he's trying to at
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: the job permanently. You know, he played for fourteen seasons
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 7: and then he transitioned into coaching.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: He's one that.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: Some coaches, some players don't make good coaches, and you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: don't always know what you get until you're actually there.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: But I think he's doing a really good job. I
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: think he's leading his his team to do great things.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: I think it'll take some time. Hopefully he'll be given
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: that opportunity, but time will tell.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: George.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if people and I know
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: it's probably not a pleasing thing to everybody, but the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: man does have a very spiritual life as well. Frank
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: is a very devout Christian. He doesn't hide that fact.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: In fact, he got a degree in theology. And he
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: also has a that side of him that some people
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: don't see. He is a people person. He's very good
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: at what he does on the field, but also off
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: the field, and that speaks a lot about him because
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: you know, yes, you can work those eighteen hour days
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: like you said, Marvin in those days drag drag drag
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: for coaches, but he also knows that being a motivational
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: speaker that he is and being a spiritual guy, he
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: goes out there and you know, where's his uh, where's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: his faith, where's his excellent knowledge of football on his sleeves.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: He's a great guy. I remember him in Detroit like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Scott did too. And also the fact that he's had
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: a you know, coaching career with teams like Indianapolis, Atlanta,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: San Diego, Philly, Detroit. Yea, Liz goes on and on,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: but he's really he's well rounded, and I hope things
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: work out for him. I know he's just interim, like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: like Candy said, but let's hope that things work out.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Frank Reraig is a great guy, good guy, good man.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: So let's go into another great one, and that's Jeff Brome,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: the guy. My goal here next year, health permitting, because
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: everybody knows I do am dealing with some tough health challenges,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: is to get up to see Louisville and the Cardinals,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: and Jeff Brome is a guy to me is one
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: of the classiest people who too, like Mario Cryscipal is
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: coaching in his Alma Monter. So Candy, let's go to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: that clip right there and talked about my final question
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and then that particular night. Now let me preface this one.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I got three questions in and I wanted the fourth one,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and a PR guy initially said they were done, but
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Jeff Rome said, it's okay, I'm going to answer this.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: So nothing to get the PR people, Jess take another one,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: And this is what the final question was. And in
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: relation to Mario Cristobal, Jeff Brome is another guy whom
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: my opinion isn't going anywhere. I hope Louisville blacks them
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: men for a long time and I get more time
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: with the Louisville Cardinals football program, like Tommy'll tell you
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: many years. Okay, the basketball program supported it, but until
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Howard Snollenberger got in there. And now obviously what PROM
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: is doing, there's other ones that have followed. This guy
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: is a real class act. To go to the tape, Candy.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: But.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, well, I was gonna ask you,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: what's it like for you to actually be able to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: coach at your alma matter and have some pretty good
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: success over here, Because I mean, this is unbelievable to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: be able to do what you're doing well.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: When you win, it's a lot of fun.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 13: So you know what I think, just like coach Crystal Ball,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 13: we care about our program, our city. We're gonna invest
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 13: as much as we can and the hard work into
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 13: trying to make it work. We hope that it's happy
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 13: Saturdays for everybody. But sometimes you are gonna lose. But
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 13: you've got to be tough enough to stand, uh, you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 13: the noise, and come back and work hard and.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Do it again.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 13: And I know Miami will come play next week and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 13: we're gonna have find a way to come right now
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 13: next week. But it's great to make your own fans happy.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: The keywords in this particular thing like the basketball Danny Crumb. Okay,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: he cares about his program, Marvin, how many times have
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: you said you have to win the presser? But this
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: guy truly does care about his program. Let's go back
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: to Jeff Rome. What are your thoughts about Jeff Rome? Now,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: he's an individual, but as but as a guy who's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a representative of that program.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: I mean, so listen, he went to school there, he's
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 11: he's coaching as alma mater. I get that, man. You know,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 11: that's the school that he loves. I think he's had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: family who's played there as well, and he understands that culture,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: that community and in that locker room, those kids, you
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: know what I mean. And and I think kids have
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: kids will buy into what he's talking about because they
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 11: understand that he's he's been in their position. Being at
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: that school is is it means more than you know,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: going he can go to USC, he go to Notre Dame,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: he go Alabama, but it wouldn't mean the same to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 11: him as the school he's at.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: You know, it's in his heart. You can hear it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 10: when he talks. You can feel his energy.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 11: You know it's something that's close to him, and you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 11: know it's I think he I think I think it's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: great when you can hire a guy that's played at
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: the play at the school, graduate from the school, someone
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: that the fan base is familiar with, and when he
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 11: talks about that school, it's about love, man, because he
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 11: does love that school. That's family to him, that's that
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 11: school is when you when you go to school in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 11: the pre n I L pre.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: Transfer portal days, it's different.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: It was different back because you know you're there for
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: four or five years, you know, and you people don't
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 11: really understand how close a football team is a football community,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 11: especially in a in a place that's small like Louisville
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 11: compared to let's say the L A U.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: S C. So, you know, I think for them it's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: a good pick up.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 11: I think it's I hope for him that he can
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: win some games, winning relevant games and you know, continue
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: to grow and climb the ladder. But I think for
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 11: Louisville it's it's it's to win. I think he's a
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 11: class act.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, keep in mind that's why Mario Christoval will have
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: a longer leash at Miami because obviously he's all about
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: the U. And another guy that was recently inducted into
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the Miami Athletics Hall of Fame as I have my
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: name of Mark Rick, and Mark Rick is the reason
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: they had that in floor facility is he knew they
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: needed and he put his money where his mouth was
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and he's a big part of what they've done. So yeah,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Jeff Brome is unbelievable. And again I'm not I'm hoping
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing them up in Louisville. Tommy, let's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: talk about Jeff Rome. Is to me, this guy is unbelievable.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I don't you see you probably haven't had a lot
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: of dealings, but he had A guy like Danny Crumble
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: carried the basketball part for a while. But what about
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Jeff Brome in terms of his character and integrity and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: what he means to Louisville as well as just college athletics.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: In Sue per se, well, he.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: Was winning it Purdue, And I might be wrong in this,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: but I think people thought he was going to leave
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: Purdue maybe a year or two earlier to go to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: Louisville when the job opened, and he stayed at Purdue,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: and then he finally moved to Louisville, but he wanted
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 8: to Purdue. What happened to when he left They went
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: down here right ray, right away. So he's you know,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: he's clearly a great coach. Uh Louisvau was struggling and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: he's turned them around and pulled off one of the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: biggest wins of the year in college football.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: Jacob and and you know something that is class.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: And it's like and all of these that we're using
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: tonight are showing that there are more of these coaches,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: you know, whether it's younger or even older, that understand
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: like I can go back a little bit, I can
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: go back a little bit. There was there was a
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: there was a difference. We brought up Bear Bryant tonight.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: There was also a guy named Bobby Dodd Georgia Tech.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: They talked about him and how he was the chill guy.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: He's basically like Frank Reich of the day, and you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: know he was chilled to his players everything like that.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: He was a rarity of that time. Though these guys now,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: Bobby Dodd fit to now, but Bear Bright wouldn't. It's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: the biggest difference of everything. And it's like and it's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: just showing how they're it's just showing how they understand
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: the difference of these players and how you need to
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: be able to treat them. And you like you, like
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: you said, calculating, Marvin, you know, you have to calculate
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: at bit when they use and whennot. It's not just
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: it's not just Abe gibbering and going all day long
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: and not just screaming and not just doing it constantly
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: or Bill Parcells. It isn't that all day long. It
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: doesn't work anymore. Like you said, tune out sometimes even quit.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: So good job for Jeff Brom just like Brome Bro,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: you know whatever the thing is. Great job for him.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: I remember he met Louisville. I remember him as a quarterback.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: And there are ones that never make the big time,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: but they those are the ones that usually become coaches.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Also, excellent point, Jacob Candy.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: You know, as a student, you pick the college you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: get to go to, so you pick your alma mater,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: and so you go there and you have pride, especially
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: when you graduate from that, you have pride you it's
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: a sense of honor. And so for him to be
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 7: able to coach where he played has more meaning than
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: being a coach at any other school. He wants success
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: for that team because he wanted success for it when
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 7: he was there. So it's to him for that. And
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 7: I can see it in Mario too when we go
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 7: to press conferences. You know how he played for it too,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: and how he has a different sense of pride for
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 7: the program for the kids because he wants the kids
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: to have that same feeling that he has for his
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: alma mater, so he's going to coach them. Yes, you
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 7: coach him sometimes you're going to coach him hard. Sometimes
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: it's different. But how you treat the media is completely different.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: And you have to respect the media because they're doing
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: their job just like you're doing your job, you know.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: And I respect him because if you saw at the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: very beginning of that clip, he said, oh wait, Scott,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: you can ask your last question, because he knew that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: they were going to cut it off and that you
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: weren't going to get that question in, but he wanted
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: you to have it. And I think that that shows
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: a lot about his character and the fact that he
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: referenced Mario as well as him as an alma mater
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: and brought both, you know, brought it roun full circle.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 7: Like I really liked that and respected that, George.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, bron is a good, solid guy, no
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: question about it. I mean we've already talked about some
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: of his achievements. He's got a really good bowl record too.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: He want two bowl games at Western Kentucky, you want
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: to at Purdue, and then he's one and one so
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: far in the boldseason at Louisville, they're sitting right now
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: seven and three the Cardinals, and he's twenty six and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: eleven as the Cardinals head coach. And I echo the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: sentiments of all people on this panel here today. He's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: a leader. He knows how to work with young men
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: and set their sights on what's to come and the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: hard work that they've got to do in a football
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: season and all year long. It's not easy these athletes.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: You know, our students as well. But Jeff's a good leader.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I like him, and I think he's done a terrific
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: job down there, I really do.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: All I can say is I hope he gets a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: lifetime contract with Louisville if he hasn't gotten one already.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I know that we've talked one thing that's really tough
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: about inside the fifteen, and Marvin and Tommy and I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: know it because we're in Candy. Has just been a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: hard show to produce this year because I don't like
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: talking about coaches losing their jobs. I just want toocus
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: on the games of the week. But this has been
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: a challenge for me as an executive producer of all
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: these shows, to have to do this. That's why I'm
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: trying to come up with unique topics to keep it
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: real with Tommy and Marvin and Candy because it's been
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: out chuggling acts in terms of being able for production
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: standpoints and you know, and that's the toughest part about
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: what we do. So again, Dorian, I take my job seriously, really, Okay,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I do. Why am I saying it a lot? And
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I'm making a point that's what they teach you. Let
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: me go over a couple of other things because I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the real heroes. And
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this is going to be a hard
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: running broadcast. Tommy. If there's no there's a bigger trooper
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: on the planets. You so bear with me tonight. This
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: is a very special show that we're on tonight. I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: appreciate you with me on this. There's some other good
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: stuff on our way. So let me go over a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: couple of other things that I think is important to mention, Okay,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: and I want to recap for those individuals as joining
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Okay the show for the first time. As we get
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: in to our second hour of the show, I think
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: we did that station break earlier, right or did we?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Ll right, you know what, don't worry about we don't
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: need it. Tonight, maybe we will attend everybody looking for
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: how to get our contact information. We'll just roll with
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: the ticker tonight. We have a bigger issue that we're
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: going out there and pressing tonight. We'll resume or station
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: break schedule tomorrow. But I want you to go out
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: there and put that thing about you know, he got
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: a blank kicked okay up there, so to reinforce what
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I'm about to put. That will probably likely be the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: only visual that I will put up here the rest
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: of the way. Yeah, he did get his ass kicked okay,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: and he's getting it again tonight because this guy's gonna
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: learn something about humility and humble. That's a face to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: me that everybody should look at, a dejected guy who
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: probably already knows what his fate is and then this year,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: it'll be next year. Is it what a twelve million
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: dollar buyout? Tommy? As I understand it, I think he
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: is a twelve million dollar buyout. So we'll see or
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: not they want to get rid of him or not.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: But that's a guy I like to look at right now.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did, boy, did you ever? But it wasn't
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: as bad as Chuck Hughes did that really wasn't. I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: actually happened to be at the game when Mike Utley
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: was paralyzed, and that was a tough game for me
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: to watch because I saw a man off an innocent
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: non contact play ended up losing everything. And this guy's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: worried about birthdays. Really seriously, really, I'm talking to Mike
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Utley now, man, I'm talking about a guy that paralyzed
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: the don't think paralyzed with him? Is he got a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: stroke a judgment? That stroke in judgment is wow? My god.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: At least I get to maybe see my next birthday.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe I wish I would you hope you would ask
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: this question off of win on my birthday. It's taking
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: a lot more than nothing out of it. Yes, you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: got it kicked, and I'm gonna take it a step further. Marvin,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I told you this was a wild Wednesday, and I'm
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: definitely living up all right, brother, so here, so let
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: me go over this again. Now we're gonna soften it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: up a little bit, Okay, a little and say a lot.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: I just got my I asked it. You know you're
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: gonna listen to them. You're gonna listen my mood this
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: ain't isn't funny to me. I do this set for
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: a living. Amazing how this shit coaching gets paid five
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: point five million dollars? Oh my god, let me tell
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: you something. How many people are sympathizing with a guy
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: getting five point two five million dollars? Just what coach?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving it to you. And I hope, in
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: my opinion, okay, that if I ever see that, I'm
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you exactly what I really think about. How
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you take your job seriously? And I got news for you.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I hope and pray that you butt your tongue on
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: seriously and you take your job. Because I get done
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: with you, I'll tell you I like to go in
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: for the kill. If you don't blame me, ask Carolyn Renfrow.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I'd like to make another example of a Dave don
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know how to do anything right because it's
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: public relations thing. When I get done with it, is
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: about stating the obvious, incorporating the positive with the negatives.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: For every Dave Dorn that there is out there, we
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: have guys like Jeff Brown. We have guys like we
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: have Jeff and Frank Wright, Mario, Chris bos you have
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: those out there that know how to treat us with respect.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Me tell you, our job is tough enough as it is.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: It really is, right, Tommy, there's nothing easy about what
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: we do. Would you agree that trying to build relationships
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: and put together an acturate sorty to do the right thing,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: that's not easy? Is it? It's alway, judge, Yeah, it
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: really is. So I'll tell you what, Maybe mister Doran
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: needs a little bit of information about me, Okay, tonight.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm wearing the beautiful orange shirt. Now, I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: know Halloween's already passed us. My trick or treat is
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: already over with the boy. I'm throwing a lot of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: tricks so the people will get a treat out of
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: this broadcast. Mark my words, no caffeine and I people,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: this is just pure adrenaline. I'm telling you so here, mister.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: I wanted to say this real quick.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: If there's any other person I want fired besides Dave Doran,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: it's who came up with the idea to pay him
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: that kind of money.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: That contract.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 5: That contract is more useless than Jacoby presats near five
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: hundred yard game.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Love it good, Joe Koby for Ressett. I'll make sure
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I in corporate him in two seconds. So let me
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: give mister Dorant a little bit. I've worked with guys
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: like Tomas Chuck Daily, Scotty Bowman, Don Schule be pretty good,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Alert Sellenberger, among others. And let's not forget Jim Leland
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: and Don Manningley, and you know what they they can
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: teach you a thing about two about making sure you
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: don't break the hand that feeds you. They called pre
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: advertising people free advertising. What do you think, Tommy, I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: ever tell you how many of those guys ever worked
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: with before? What do you think of this last Tommy,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you. Okay, Chuck Daily, you think he's
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: pretty good.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: Mister Scotch I'll never go.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: You know, well, you heard of them, right, these are guys, Yeah,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: he's here's a good list. Have some Hall of famers.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what, Dave Doran, I'm gonna I'm
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: gonna automatically on my no, not only put you in
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the National Siberian National Siberian League or whatever I called
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: it earlier, Siberian Football League. Okay, SFL, Siberian Football League,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: but I'm playing you in the Hall of Chamber. I okay,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: and no problem, it's easy. But Tomos sort of shuck
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: theairly great people. Scottie Bowman, all they did was win.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Not sure, all they did was win. Alward snilverger brother
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: figure to me. Jim Leland another great guy. Not manically,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: you're Dave, You're anything. But these guys, Okay, you know,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: I don't even think they would accept you in Coasta Rica.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think they'd accept you anyplace. Just go out
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: there and just you know, uh, go back to the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Siberian Football League or being assistant where everybody's buried with you.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: But here's the team. Okay. When I look at this guy,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: everybody knows I don't really particularly like him. I never have.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: And when I see him again, and mark my word,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: our casual across they generally do. When I put my
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: mind to it, I do like to drive. And I
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: have a beautiful hot Odyssey looking for me to spend
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: miles miles on it to Fine And there's guy. But
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I promise I'm not going to jail. I'm not gonna
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: go ahead him. I'm just gonna let him know what
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I really think of him. Let me tell you something.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: He'll never forget me and I would be surprised if
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: this guy even has the cuts to apologize to me.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Although don't hold your breath. You don't apologize to anybody.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: He's just naturally testing and he definitely deserves what he gets.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: But here's the deal. Okay, Yesterday on the inside the
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: picks in, right, we talked about some great potential people,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: and we talked about John drud right, Marvin then we
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: mentioned a little bit about him Candy Tommy. Then we
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: talk about those guys here. I'm gonna go ahead and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: help and he stayed out a little bit. Get rid
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: of this bomb because he is a boom. Okay, Bucky Badger,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I need your help again. Okay, but got Jack o'riel
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: is a pretty good football coach, right, Why isn't he
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: coaching in college or anywhere else? Tom Herman's a guy
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: worked with at FAU. Let me tell you, I don't
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: know what happened to the FAU. He was a great
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: offensive mine and he certainly knows how to work well
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: with the media. That Shawn Jackson is another guy that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: deserves an opportunity. Eddie, George Clinton poured us John Gruden.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Tommy, let's forget about thorn for the moment.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: We're gonna think thoughts about these individuals. You think Clinton
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: porters will get a job, And let's go over some
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: of these other guys are that are worthy to enter
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: this group here.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: Well, the thing that's interesting about Eddie George is Dion
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 8: Sanders has opened the door for a black coaches moving
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: from an HBCU to UH in this case a group
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: of five d I wentz a power for school. So
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: it's very Michael Vick is at Norfolk State. These guys
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 8: before they get considered for jobs like that. So that's
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 8: so that's what I find interesting. I'm not sure how
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 8: any good at the job. Eddie George is doing.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: He did a good job where was the Tennessee Yeah, yeah,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 8: so he did a good job there his first year
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 8: at Bowli Green. I don't know what kind of season
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 8: they're having, but it's encouraging that he's getting the opportunity
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 8: because guys like him did not get the opportunity before.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: So let's go with some of the other people. John Gruden,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: we had fun. John Gruden will definitely lighten up Rawley,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: won't he.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not John Gruden fan, Okay, no problem with I'm
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: with Marvin and John Cruden. He's got well.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: What about Clinton port It's got to like Clinton Porter's right.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know where's Clinton Porton's coaching.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: He's an assistant coach over at what what's his name?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Over at Delaware State. Alongside of this, I can.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: Tell you a lot about him.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: That's Tom Herman. Tom Herman, what are your thoughts? I
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: know he's not working.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: Tom Herman was a successful coordinator, but he hasn't really
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 8: won anywhere as a head coach.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Well, he went a little bit of Texas and fter
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: you forget it. That was a tough situation.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Jack del Rial, though, has a pretty well established name.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, all right, John Green issues.
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  Speaker 1: Oh did he listen? I only mentioned a few. They're
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: probably other ones. All right, Marvin real, quickly give me
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: your idea about this list. We're not going to carry
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: this through the crew. I just wanted a couple of
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: people that are associated with the sports take if you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: can provide, unless anybody else has to add to it,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: because I want to talk about some real heroes in
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: just a moment, because there are some that I don't
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: want to overlook tonight.
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  Speaker 5: This real let me say this real fast. Even if
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: John Gruden wasn't a perfect behavior whatsoever, I'm just saying
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: this to all these guys here tonight, even if he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: was saying his most perfect behavior is like Kurt Warr
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: makes the Tim Tebow, even if he was all that,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: which he's not. But even if he was, the guys,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: the guy's mindset for football has not changed his two
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: thousand and seven. We're in twenty twenty five, and we
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: saw it about two three years ago. It didn't change
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: then either. He wasn't winning then. He's not winning anywhere
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: else now because he won't change his view. So forget
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: about even without the even if he was a perfect guy.
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  Speaker 1: H Okay, So anybody else want to add to this
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  Speaker 1: list or are you going to TVD this one?
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  Speaker 2: The rest of the words, I thought you, yeah, I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: thought you'd have Wayne Fonts on that list. Gott Yeah,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: I know, I know he had some issues, but he
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: was a He was definitely the Lions leader for a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: Don't kid yourself, George. I love Wayne font He was
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: a good guy. I worked with him, Wayne.
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  Speaker 11: Waite, Wayne Wayne fonce coached my dad in the Pro
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 11: Bowl in eighties. My father loved thought he was a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 11: great guy. Now great here, Martin, thank you for sharing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Scott, I just want to add that Portois was
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: hired by Delaware State University as a runnings back coach
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 7: as part of the new staff under new head coach
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: to Shawn Jackson. He actually is the father of seven
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 7: sons and three daughters. His son, Camden, plays cornerback and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 7: is committed to Portois's alma mater, University of Miami, is
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: a twenty twenty six prospect.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there, Clinton Portis is a good name in
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: the game to watch out for the coaching circles, murder
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: anything want to add.
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  Speaker 11: To that Listen, I've known Deshon since he was a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 11: young young boy.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 10: His dad and my dad were really close.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 11: I says he just signed all the time time when
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 11: he was tearing it up in Long Beach as a youth.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 11: And you know, the thing you have to understand is
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 11: at the college level, you know, Deshaun can hire, he
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 11: can hire you know, former NFL assistants, former college assistants
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: who are really proven. Then his focus could just be
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 11: on the kids and motivating them and inspiring them. You
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 11: know that that's the reality of what college can really be.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 11: So when you see his success at Delaware State, it's
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 11: very fair to believe that he can he could take
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 11: this to the next level. I think that those I
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 11: think kids, young kids understand him. They know who he is,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 11: their parents know who he is. And I think, you know,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 11: he's a guy who's kind of been through it a
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 11: little bit. And I think admittedly he'll tell you he's
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 11: made some mistakes. There are things he would have done differently,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 11: you know, hindsight twenty twenty. But it comes down to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: just do the players respect you, Do they listen to you?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: Do they see themselves growing with you as the leader?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: And at the college level, a guy like DeShawn there's
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 11: a chance he could do well something well, Deon's suffered
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 11: right now, but you can see I could see him
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 11: being successful at a bigger school with it with a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 11: veteran coaching staff, him focusing on the kids and that
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 11: leadership and that development, and his you know, his staff
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 11: focusing on the x's and o's and other things that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 11: are relevant. That's that's that's something that's very real. So
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 11: it wouldn't shock me to see him, particularly because he's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 11: having success, move up well.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: And Marvin the thing too. You brought up to Shawn. Okay,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: you say, note him for a while.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Mhm.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: Someone like, Okay, we bring up Dion, we bring up
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: to Shawn. Here's the thing, the difference with this, those
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: two were all they studied their positions so well. They
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: studied there what they did. Mind you that we would
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: have the one highlight of what Deshaun did, dropped the ball.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: But he was phenomenal, the phenomenal student of wide receiver position.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: At least he studied that thing.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: Not just that.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 11: Keep in mind he was the first player in NFL
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 11: history to be voted to the Pro Bowl as a
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 11: starter in two different positions. So, I mean, I think
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: he's you can say that he's a great player versus
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: just a receiver. He's had tremendous impact as a returner
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 11: and a receiver.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: Sure, And it's like, and I'm just saying his knowledge
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: of the game. Same with Dion. I mean, the greatest,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: the greatest backfield guy of all time. Yeah, and I'm
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: saying I'm saying one of those whatsoever, I can see
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: them as coaches based on how they see the game.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: Michael Vick, I don't.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 11: I didn't say that. What did you say, look you No,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 11: I didn't bring up Michael Vick's name. I wouldn't put
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 11: him in that conversation.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: No, I understanding Michael Vick.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Michael Vick's one and ten Norfolk say, for a reason,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: it's not gonna get any better. This guy did not
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: study the game once until Andy re forced him. He's
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: not They got him as a coach for the name.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: He was a terrible choice.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I hear you.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 11: Uh, but when you talk about the greatest dB ever,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 11: let's not forget Ronnie Lott.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 10: I'm done.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll give you that he's one of the greats.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: But I mean, I mean, but you got to realize
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: people tried Ronnie. A lot of people. There was two, two,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: three seasons they didn't try They didn't try Sanders at all.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Right, just that, let me go over a couple of things.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: There might be a little rapid fire, not a lot. Okay,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: I'll just close out my final thoughts on this guy,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: because there are topics I do want to get to.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I want to thank the crew for hanging with me
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: on this night. I really appreciate that it's an opportunity
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: to bring other people into focus. But after I get
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: told with this comment, I'm going to talk about some
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: really heroes because there have been a lot of them
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: over the last week that I want to make sure
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: we reach out to. I only message to Dave Dorn
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: is this, if you're if you're employed, I will see
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: you either at a bull game or in an ACC
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: media day. And I am not done with you yet, Goran.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: What you began, what you set off on, well you
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: turn out to be a birthday comment is going to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: be D Day for you when I get done with you,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: D day, okay. And that's all I have to say
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: to this cotton picking stompbag.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 11: That's all you have to say after an hour and
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 11: a half, that's all you have to say.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: That's okay. Hey, listen. I don't view this as therapy.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: I view this as something as a teaching moment for
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: young writers and everybody getting in and as John wouldn't say,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: you got to stand up for you, believe in you know,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: let some douchebag like him go out there and throw
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you away. But he doesn't realize he'd deal with somebody
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: older and a whole lot more experience with them. And
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not designing his future. Florida State okay, and North
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Carolina will have a lot to do with the next
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And if this guy doesn't win, I
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: can only imagine. But he started last week, and when
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm adding to this tonight, isn't going to help matters.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Any D Day is coming D Day or Dave Dorin.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I love those d analogies. All right, let's call on
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: some positive things. Although I think for the most part
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: the show has been positive as I've been able to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: incorporate other aspects of human life and interest into what
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: we're doing. And that's says Okay, let's talk about Rick
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Patino for a quitch second rapid fire. He says, we
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: are not recruiting high school kid Tommy. Is that a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: good approach?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 8: It works around Saint John's. I don't like it. It's
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 8: it's so having a hard time get wrapping my head
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 8: around the drastic changes of college sports. But it works.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, what about you, Marvin.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: I think what he's saying is he doesn't have that
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 10: much time.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 11: I don't know if this guy is gonna be coaching forever.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 11: So a guy like this, you know, he wants to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 11: take talent that maybe was overlooked in high school, went
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 11: to a different school and get those kids. You're getting
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 11: a more mature kid, more developed kid, and you know
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: he can have greater impact with those kids.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 10: I think, you know, in and offseason. So I get
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: what he's doing.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 10: Again, like Tom, you know, I'm.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 11: A football purist who even though I do agree with,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 11: I like nil and I like the transfer portal.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 10: It's it's it's a bit of a struggle. Again.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 11: I'm a guy that I would have paid to go
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 11: to USC you know, if they didn't give me a scholarship.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 10: So you know, it's it's.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 11: A different day, man, But it's you know, but I think, uh,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 11: it's it's gonna be all right.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no problem with work doing. If he
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't feeling these high school kids. He wants to use
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: transfer portal, he's using the tools. Jacob rapid fire keeping
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: mine of a fund of funder.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: Jackie Jackie Cheryl won, Jackie Cheryl want with a bunch
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: of Jucos. You know, he won games. They got an
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: upset on Alabama. It's like it can work. You get
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: some some people just when you're older, like Rick Patino,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: you don't want to be dealing with especially with nil now.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: So you just you just pick and choose. And that's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: what older age really is. You're picking and choosing a
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: lot of that is. I mean, I know it from
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to say I'm the oldest guy in
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: the world, but I know in comparison, while I was
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: like twenties, I'm picking and choosing the things to do
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: myself everybody, and you'll do it when you're seventy three,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 5: like he is.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Candy, let me let me jump in here for some ahead, Tommy.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: That's that's what was great about the Michigan State Kentucky
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: game last night. The Michigan State beat him by twenty.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 8: Tom Izzo's he's plugged in a couple of transfer portals,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 8: but they're not the marquee ones, not the million dollar ones,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 8: because guys that were on the field, lead on the
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: court leading Michigan State have been there three four years,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: They've developed. Carson Cooper and Jackson Cohler couldn't have played
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: in that game as freshmen, but as seniors they were
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 8: controlling the board. So there's still a lot to like
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: about college basketball. If you're a Michigan State fan, I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 8: just have to bring that.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: Up, great point. Okay, all right, Candy, George, and then
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I want a couple more things I want to get to.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: So Patino has won all kinds of awards, you know,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: for coach of the Year in a couple of different
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: times too. So he's led his teams to two NCA
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 7: Division One tournaments, seven regional final fours. I mean, the
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: list of accomplishments go on and on. So he can
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 7: pick and choose his players more so, kudos to him
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: for his long career.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: George.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna pretty much agree with the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: rest of you. I've always admired him. I mean, I
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: know that there's some envy out there, obviously from some
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: of the coaches that you know, didn't make it as
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: great as he did Patino in his career, but I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: really think that he has been good for the sport
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: of basketball. And I'm so glad, Tommy you brought that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: up about that game last night, because I thought the
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: same thing. I saw that score and follow the game,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: and it was you know, tom Izzo is so tough
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: on his player, as we know, but he's also a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: great leader and really shows those boys the right way.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: So uh, and I feel very strongly about Patino as well.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: Scott Okay, I'll tell you another positive guy. I worked
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: with him on two occasions. His name is Rick Barnes.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: I don't work with the one who was the provident Friars.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: And there's another guy who was a tenant Texas I
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: got and he talked passed a few years ago. I
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: was at the Almo Bowl when Michigan took on Nebraska.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: It's a lifetime contract in the University of Tennessee. Tom
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: where your thoughts about Rick Barnes. I love Rick Barnes.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's one of the classiest individuals on the planet,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad that University of Tennessee is going to
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: acknowledge him as a lifetime guy. We all know that
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Pat Summit was there, but Rick Barnes is in the
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: class land South. Tommy.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's had to bounce around a little bit and
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 8: he's landed in a great spot. And Tennessee basketball is thriving.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 8: It's been down for a long time, and so yeah,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 8: clearly he's in a good spot now. Happy to see
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: what he's doing, Happy to have him in the game.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Still, Yeah, me too. I hope he eventually wins the
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: National Championship Marvin and talked about him. And then we
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: have one more topic which will be a very uplifting
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: and then Channahan report. I'm determined to get those in
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: I am. I promised Sammy and Jacob they're going to
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: get there too. But the next topic after this is
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: going to be more upfiltering than what I have. Who's next?
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: Good good coach, built a no and it has a
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: good program. It'd be nice to see a guy like
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 11: that win, win big.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: So that's it, Jacob awesome, you know, just know.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: The thing about it is the fact that Tennessee for
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: all those years was women's basketball.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: It was always Summit. The court is called the Elian Court,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: with that's called the Summit, you know what I mean.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 5: It's like, but now you've got now you've got Rick
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 5: Barnes there and with no Pat Summit there anymore.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: And that's aura. He can make his own way.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Absolutely Candy.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean again, he's coached and had some real
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: success Final fours, Big East Tournaments, SEC tournaments.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: He's been Coach of the Year.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 7: He's also got Coach when Keys.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: To Life Award, So you know he's a good coach.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: George eight and forty wins. O, my goodness. Just an
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: incredible coach. I mean, you know, he's been to so
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: many tournaments and won so many games at both Texas
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: and Tennessee. I really do feel that, uh you know
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: it's coming. I hope it's coming soon for him. He
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: was thirty and eight last year in Tennessee. Uh yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm all behind him. Man, thirty. I mean, he's just great.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: He's great stuff.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll tell you what I meant when
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: I said about this tonight is the most uplifting topic
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: of the night because I had to deal with a
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: d D Dave the Downer all night. Now I'm going
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: to talk about some real heroes, and I mean these
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: really quickly. Okay, Bernie Carves gets a long transplant from
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: super fan Bruce Dunlop Pyramid. This guy here, Bruce Dunlop
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: is twenty one years of age. Glad that Bernie got
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: the transplant. What are your thoughts, Tommy, I didn't hear
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: about that story. Yeah I have to. We're going to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: talk about it more, by the way, on Inside the
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: next week. It'll be one of our lead stories. A
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: fair player for our thank Timmy. But yees, Bernie coles
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: our gods.
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  Speaker 8: Transplants've been around for a long time, but it's still
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: it's still an amazing miracle that they that it could
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: ever be done.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one year old super fan by the name
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: of Bruce Dunloppe was able to do it. He passed away,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: but one of his things there was he wanted to
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: make sure that and this got to Bernie Coleser.
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  Speaker 11: Mervin, listen, I'm a sucker for kindness. And in a
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 11: world where the headlines are horrible, the media, it just
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 11: talks about negativity. You know, it's great to see a
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 11: story where you know, a guy, a young man, a
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 11: Browns fan of fat you know, who obviously lost his life,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 11: was willing and wanted to be an organ donor. It's
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 11: something that I think a lot of people do. I'm
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: an organ donor just on my on my life's driver's license,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 11: but you know, to to hear the story and see
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 11: how it really impacted somebody, I think it's amazing and
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 11: I'm happy for Bernie, and you know, nothing but respect
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: and love for the young man his family who made
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 11: that sacrifice for Bernie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Marvin, I'm a sucker for kindness too.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: And for those of you that are watching listening the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: first time, ninety nine percent of my shows are kindness
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: and I tried to make my attempt on Saturday night.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: It really is. But you know what, kindness is a
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Some people get it, some don't get it, Okay, Jacob,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: A couple more people want to reach out to, Go ahead, Jacob.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 6: Bernie Coles are cos are that we remember him from all?
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, we were both around the same age so far,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 5: Mar and you might be a little older, but definitely
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: we all remember Kozar, who was a good quarterback of
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: his day. But we've heard his issues that he had
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. Now with his health
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: and everything, we get somebody that comes through and somebody
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: had never watched him play, remember this part someone it
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 5: would have been old enough to watch him play. But
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: he gave kindness to the guy, you know, no matter
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: what heard about it. Being a Browns fan, probably watched
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of YouTube clips of the thing. And just like,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: you know what, what's to see him succeed? I want's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: to see him go on and do some I mean
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: better things. It's like, and the thing about Kozar is
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: he really has a chance to make this next part
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: of his life. It's a kindness and to do things
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 5: about it and make people forget what had from the past.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: I know Bernie, we texted a few times a week
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: and looking forward to eventually you talking to him, getting
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: him on a show at some point. But more powerfrolm Candy,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: A few more things I want to get to than
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: we have fun this one at Channahan Report. Tommy, he're
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: the greatest. Thanks for hanging with me tonight. I really
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Go ahead, Candy.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: So Bryce's mom, Kim Kane, said Bernie Costar does wonderful things.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: Bryce couldn't be the celebrity that Bernie Costar was, but
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 7: he's gonna live vicariously through him, so Bernie can continue
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: to do wonderful things. Caine added that speaking about her son,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 7: when he renewed his driver's license, he asked me about
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 7: being an organ donor, and I told him he should.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: He wanted to help others, so he decided to become
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 7: an owner organ donor.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: He now has helped others.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Live and just an FYI, I'm an organ donor and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you one thing. I hope my
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: organs get placed in the right spot too, based on
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: being an organ donor. George and I have a couple
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: more people I want to reach out to.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hats off to that young man, and how sad
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: it is that he lost his life. But twenty one
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: years old and Bryce Dunlap suffered a medical emergency rush
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: to the hospital and as soon as the family knew
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: about this, they, you know, they really really decided that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: this is what they wanted to do. Cozar got it
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: and Bernie, we're hoping for a great recovery of you
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: and the young man that lost his life. Sadly, we
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: worked for the best for you too in your family.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this as a non sports
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: at rest in peace, because this one's very inspiring. Paramedic
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Molly Mary Jolly, twenty seven, was killed while stopping the
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: saving crash victim out of Florida Interstate, which is I
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: ninety five. I'll tell you one thing, this young lady
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: is a hero in my and we're talking about real
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: heroes of the week, and Mary Jolly definitely gets one.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven years of age trying to help somebody out
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: on Interstate ninety five unfort a life lost way too soon, Tommy. Tragic, Yeah, tragic.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add to that.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 8: No, I don't know much about the story, but.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You know about it now. Mary Jolly's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: a hero. Twenty seven paramedic losing your life, and I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: think she was that. I don't know if she was
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: off duty or not, but unbelievable, God blessed. Yeah, she
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: was off duty. So there you go. Marvin.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 10: Yeah, sad story.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 11: I hate to hear that kind of stuff, you know,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 11: but again, it's another example of really the ultimate sacrifice
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 11: and kindness, and we need to hear. I mean, I
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: don't want to hear more stories about death, but you know,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 11: it's great to hear that there are people out there
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 11: who are really trying to help others and have impact.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Jacob.
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  Speaker 5: I always I've always said that paramedics are badasses to me,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: because they're like a they're like a walking United.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: States Mass unit.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: You know, it's like they have to they have to
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: do all that work where they don't have all these
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 5: they don't have all the emergency room stuff in there,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: they don't have all that. They've got to do all
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: this stuff and they have to do it in the
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: most highest stress in the area as possible.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: This is this was probably Here's the thing. The irony
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: of it is, this.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: Was probably the least the rough area that she had
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: to have done it, even though it was on the highway.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: She got killed and it was a very big tragedy.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 5: But knowing where they go, a lot of these paramedics go,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: this is probably the least of the problem.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: There was the irony of it.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: She's she probably didn't think she'd lose her life there
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 5: because there's been a thousand places she probably thought she would.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: So that's think about paramedics.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you I gave notice of paramedics on
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: that show Emergency Rescue fifty to one. I'll tell you
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I've always taken a note of that one. And now
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: when I see a young lady that I appreciate the
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: work to paramas candy one more another inspire one another
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: sports and then we go to and the Shanahan report
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: It she isn't inspiring.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 7: What I will tell you is ninety five is a
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 7: racetrack for so many different vehicles. It is a terrible
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: highway to interstate to drive onos Kudos to them. Were
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 7: for getting out of the car and trying to help
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 7: this gentlemen.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, uh, she couldn't. She didn't survive her injuries.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 7: But you know, it's always amazing.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: When people go out of their way to help.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 7: Because she was off duty, she was not on duty
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: or anything like that, so it was not part of
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 7: her job. She was a good samaritan doing a good deed,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 7: and unfortunately she lost her life.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: George, Yeah, I respect all those paramedics and the emergency personnel.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: My son in law is with the Madison Heights Fire Department,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: so I know that it really is a remarkable thing
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: and they are just outstanding citizens and role models. I
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: thank this young lady for doing what she did. God
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: bless her and her family.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, Resident Peak Mary, I want to get you on
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: the show because we're talking about heroes too, and you're
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: definitely one of them, one of the biggest heroes. Bring
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: anybody in the coaching world, it's only fitting and bring
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: them up on tonight's show. It's necessary. Coach John Beem,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: last Fans University was done down. This guy, to me
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: is a role model in every sense. Jacob, you talked
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: about him. Make it briefly and make sure we get punnits.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 6: On because John Beam was my pundit's punnet tonight.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well then they can say it. You can say
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: it during your pundit's putting. Let me go around the
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: horn real quick, and then we go there Marvil and
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: he talks about John Beam.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, unfortunate story.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 11: Gun violence in America is a very real thing. Into
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 11: health that America is a very well thaying and we
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 11: see horrible examples of that played out in these kinds
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 11: of situations.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: Tommy, I'll say the same thing I said last night,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: were our society's upside down? Where written such tough bleue worlds,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: such tough es there with more money games and get
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: ary bellars that Bill Belichick makes.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, can you say that again? We had a
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: little bit of an issue there, but go ahead.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 8: Those type of guys deserve are worth more money. Okay,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: Bill Belichick getting fifty million dollars for five years.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: No question about candy.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 7: You know. He he actually served as a He was
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 7: a beloved figure in the Oakland, era area and served
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 7: as a mentor to thousands of youth.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: More than thirty of his former.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 7: Students played in the National Football League so just sad
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 7: to see the violence, and especially the gun violence that
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: is prevalent in today's society.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: Rest in peace, George.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so sad to hear the news. It
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: was just an incredibly sad story. And like Candy said,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: this man has touched so many people, so many young
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: men and women too. I'm sure the sports world, athleticism
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: and nothing but great respect for him, and it's so
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: tragic that this his life was taken short. So bad.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rest in peace, coach. You were worth bringing on
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: two shows, and I'm glad I had a lot of
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: different voices to determine your legacy. I'm glad we brought
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: it on inside the picking and reiterated and the sports
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: have changed. As I said, I'm glad that we were
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: able to incorporate you as a hero on a lot
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: of shows, but especially this one where we need to
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: make sure that we understand class versus class lists and
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: you're definitely class in every sense of the work. Nonsports
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: toping of the night goes back to the fact that
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: more than thirteen hundred and fifty people down in the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Great Lakes in the last fifteen years, nearly half of
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: them in Lake Michigan, George, you're closer to that. What
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: unbelievable stuff, isn't that?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so sad to hear. Lake Michigan is a
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: beautiful lake, obviously bordering Illinois and Wisconsin as well as Michigan.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: And it's so sad to hear that that. You know, again,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: take extra precaution. Everybody likes the water goes out of
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: the water because we want to see you. We don't
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: want you to be a statistic.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 10: We don't.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Not a lake Lake Michigan. I was married there. What
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: do you think about Lake Michigan's I'm fortunate though that
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: these people helped me at thirteen hundred and fifty. I
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: still put them into heroes category. What about you, Candy, Yeah,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I do too.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, Lake Michigan is a very pretty lake.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: Obviously it was a backdrop for some of our pictures
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 7: for our wedding. But it's too bad to see, to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 7: be honest with you, as big of a lake as
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 7: Lake Michigan and is I'm kind of surprised that there
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 7: isn't more than that.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: But sad to hear that.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: Step Tommy, any thoughts, Uh, Well, you know the great
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: lakes when you're out in the middle of It's like
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: being in an ocean.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 8: The thing that I thought about was we just recently
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 8: had the fiftieth anniversary of the Edmund Fitzgero good right
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 8: foot song going down in the Lakes, Superior. We can
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: all remember.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: That, Marvin m.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: I can hear Yourn You're muted.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 10: Everyone summed it up, summed it up. Unfortunate situation. I
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 10: hate to hear that.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. Like I'm glad, all right, closing thoughts
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go to the Shanahan report of
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: what we did. And I think closing thoughts are important
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes. George, real quick closing thoughts
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: about the show in its entirety.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there was a lot to this show, a
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: lot of serious stuff, and I'm glad you hit it
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: right head on, Scott. It's not a great subject to
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: talk about when somebody is, you know, mysterying media or
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: members of the media. I do not want to dwell
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: on that. But good show, good show, and thanks for
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: all the efforts you put.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: In, Candy.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: I guess my my one takeaway is as a leader,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: you need to think before you speak, because your words
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 7: have impact, especially in these times where social media is
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: prevalent and everybody's recording things.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: It's very important.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Tommy.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I'm glad you brought up the examples of
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 8: Jeff Brown and Frank Reich as being good guys.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 10: Thanks, Marvin, nothing nothing.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: New, nothing new, Okay, fair enough, Obviously, I appreciate your
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: being out here. Marvin's important show. As long as you're
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: in the media, you're gonna find out you have a
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: lot of good ones on their field you have to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: watch out for. And hopefully that tonight Marvin will be
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: a teaching moment that you'll always have as you begin
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: your fledgling media career. And that was one of the
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're on the show, Marvin. This is called
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: the teaching moment for guys like you getting into the business,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: and I hope that you were able to maximize the
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: benefit of it all. Jacob, real question thoughts about the show,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: and we'll go to the Shanahan Report.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you've heard me, and I mean, I mean everybody's
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: seen my things. This is some time to time. I can,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: I can get on the media at times, but there
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 6: are good ones too.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know there are there are good there are
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 5: good ones also regards that.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 6: A lot of it is when I go after it's
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: just frustration of and overall you know, and I be
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 6: able to do. But when you I mean as a generalization,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: as a part as people, there are good ones that
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 6: are trying to still make the old school of journalism work,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: and you've got to pay attention to that, not eat
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 6: everybody in one if I can. One bubble.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 10: Learned that.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Now my only closing thoughts is on Saturday, I ran
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: into a really, really really bad egg, and this guy
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: is a bad, bad, bad egg, and our pansil across.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you one of the reasons
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: why we have have to reinforce the negative and the
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: positive is I was able to do that with Jeff Row,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: Frank Wright and all the heroes that I just won't mention.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: So I've had an enjoyable time in my forty seven years.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: I'm working on another book. I'm proud of what I've done.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: But let me tell you, one bad egg to me
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't make up for all the great ones I've had
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: in forty seven years. And Tommy, with that said, go
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: to Shanahan Report. We'll we'll wrap it up with pun
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: and fun it and we'll call it. And I thank
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: everybody for staying with us for the entire show. I
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: hope you've learned a lot, and I hope you understand
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: that we're trying to make light of a situation that
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: many of us in the press do when that's the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: fact that we do take our job seriously. He isn't
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: the only guy that does. Unfortunately, in his eyes, he
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't think. He thinks he is. But that's be termined
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: down the road, Tommy, go ahead, well, talking.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: About heroes and criticizing someone in the media. This is
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 8: my website, Tom Shannan Report, Tom shannhan dot Report. I
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: have a story up there about criticizing Chris Matthews, who's
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  Speaker 8: another one of my heroes political commentators. You see him
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  Speaker 8: on MSNBC. He's written great books about the Kennedys. He's
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  Speaker 8: an expert. But he made a mistake when he was
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  Speaker 8: on MSNBC the other day promoting his new book about
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  Speaker 8: Bobby Kennedy and all the great things he did as
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  Speaker 8: Attorney General, and he was asked he was talking about
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  Speaker 8: integration in the South, and he was asked to cite
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  Speaker 8: an example of all the Kennedys influence things. Chris Matthews
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  Speaker 8: said that look at the Southeastern Conference rosters, all the
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  Speaker 8: players are black. Well, that's true, but the Kennedy Kennedy's
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  Speaker 8: didn't influence that because guys like bar Bryant didn't listen
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  Speaker 8: to him. The point Matthews was making as Bobby Kennedy
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  Speaker 8: sent the Bobby and John F. Kennedy sent troops into
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  Speaker 8: Mississippi to quell a riot so George Meredith could be
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  Speaker 8: admitted to Mississippi in nineteen sixty two. Mississippi didn't d
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  Speaker 8: second game until nineteen seventy two. Kennedy has also sent
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  Speaker 8: Marshalls to Tuscalooska, Alabama, to let Vivian Malone and James
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  Speaker 8: Hood be admitted to the first black students at Alabama
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  Speaker 8: in nineteen sixty three. Bar Bryant didn't listen to the Kennedys.
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  Speaker 8: He waited until nineteen seventy. He ignored the Kennedys and
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  Speaker 8: the US Constitution. Go to my website, thom Shane dot Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing that out, Tommy, I don't knew that
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  Speaker 1: Bear Bryan ignored the Kennedy's. Interesting insight. Every time you
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  Speaker 1: get to Shanagan Report. One of my things, Tommy, what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do as we can continue inside depicting, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll give you an opportunity as often as I can
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  Speaker 1: get out of the place. And I haven't been able
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  Speaker 1: to do that because of the influence of topics. I
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  Speaker 1: got unexpected the hit with with all his coaching stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I promise I'm going to try to work a
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  Speaker 1: second opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: And okay, tom.
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  Speaker 1: Done, week tell us some work. Okay, all right, real quickly, Jacob.
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  Speaker 1: Then we're gonna go ahead and let everybody go get
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  Speaker 1: ahold of everybody real quick and then I'm done.
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  Speaker 6: I read the ESPN article on John Bean.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the things that one of the one
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  Speaker 5: of my favorite quotes of it was when he was
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  Speaker 5: our last chance to you. He hated the name, hated it,
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  Speaker 5: hated it, hated it. He wanted he wanted his season
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  Speaker 5: to be called best chance you or next chance you,
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  Speaker 5: not last chance. These Well, I'll give you a little
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  Speaker 5: hint of things that he did. It was more than
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  Speaker 5: winning games, and he won a lot of games. He
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  Speaker 5: did some He did the little situation with some of
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  Speaker 5: the kids where they were building those you know, those.
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  Speaker 6: Little small houses that you can get in Ikea. The
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  Speaker 6: tiny houses.
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  Speaker 5: He taught them any of the one that he found out,
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  Speaker 5: the ones that were homeless, and he got them into
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  Speaker 5: a system where they could be able to build their
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  Speaker 5: own small houses. And then he was trying to make
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  Speaker 5: it as he was trying to get it to government,
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  Speaker 5: even though the government, of course said no. He tried
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  Speaker 5: to get the one of the government's helped to make
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  Speaker 5: it permanent.
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  Speaker 6: Using his kids.
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  Speaker 5: He got into fights regularly with bureaucracy because they would
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  Speaker 5: tell him it would be an impermerc impermissible expense to
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  Speaker 5: buy a couple of noodles for a kid who hasn't
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  Speaker 5: eaten two days. This is why we have an il
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  Speaker 5: and it's out of control. A couple of noodles. He
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  Speaker 5: was We've seen the thing. He was rough, He could
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  Speaker 5: be gruff at times. He had tough love. But he
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  Speaker 5: loved those kids, He loved everyone. He wanted them to
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  Speaker 5: succeed in life. And that's the thing a lot of
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  Speaker 5: coaches forget. In the middle of every one of their
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  Speaker 5: wins that they want to have and their success and
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  Speaker 5: their egos, and they're all that the end the end.
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  Speaker 5: He understood the one thing I've always wanted is that
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  Speaker 5: these kids, I mean, we're older, are we've learned a lot,
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  Speaker 5: even though there's more for us to learn in life,
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  Speaker 5: but these kids haven't learned yet. It's our job to
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  Speaker 5: get them to know. He understood that, He understood that.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the tragedy, the tragedy of all of this
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  Speaker 5: is he saved so many and there was one he
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  Speaker 5: couldn't save that it took his.
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  Speaker 6: And this is the thing we need to this is
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  Speaker 6: the thing we need to understand.
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  Speaker 5: As and as I said, I've been a volunteer coach
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  Speaker 5: a couple of different types of basketball, and I would
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  Speaker 5: want to take his I would want to take his example.
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  Speaker 5: It's whether it's on the court or off the court,
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  Speaker 5: or on the field or off the field. We as adults,
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  Speaker 5: we as adults have lived our life and we're just
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  Speaker 5: I mean, everything that God has given us is now
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  Speaker 5: a bonus. Even though I'm not even fifty yet. Give
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  Speaker 5: my point, we've lived, we have gray hair, means we
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  Speaker 5: have experience.
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  Speaker 6: They haven't.
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  Speaker 5: It's up to us if we're going to coach, or
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  Speaker 5: any of us, or whether our coaches or parents or anything,
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  Speaker 5: it's up to us to give these kids, to give
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  Speaker 5: these kids what we know. It's more than the winds,
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  Speaker 5: and we do want to win, but the winds will
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  Speaker 5: come as long as they get the It was important
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  Speaker 5: and John Beem understood it.
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  Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Well done, Rest in peace all the
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  Speaker 1: individuals that we spoke about. Tommy, once again, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: hanging with us the whole time. Anybody else want to
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and Marvell, everybody know how to got hold
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  Speaker 1: of you and George and no station breaks tonight will
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  Speaker 1: make them up tomorrow. Player.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 10: Marvin on the mic.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful does a heck of a job with Ben Troop
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  Speaker 1: and Steve Rochelle and Marvin's come a long way, but
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  Speaker 1: Marvin hasn't even begun to reach his potential. But he's
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  Speaker 1: well on his way. Proud of them, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: I sent him my book and I'm sure quite hopefully
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  Speaker 1: the holidays they'll have it right all the way. If
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't, at least he has a resource tool in
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  Speaker 1: the spot, won't mention the book tonight. That'll be done up,
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  Speaker 1: Fire up, George Rero quickly got thirty seconds and the
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: show was over.
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  Speaker 2: the contributor section, and there's a tag at the end
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  Speaker 2: of my column about my book, and we'll talk more
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  Speaker 2: about it. But Detroit Sports broadcasters on the air, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: thank you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Dad does it for us tonight. I hope
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  Speaker 1: everybody's learned a lot from this show. There was a
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: very intense show. Without doubt. Next Wednesday night it'll certainly
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  Speaker 1: be a little more versatile and we'll bring Tony Lewis
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  Speaker 1: back on. But this is one of these shows tonight
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  Speaker 1: where we had to address some important issues. A bottom
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  Speaker 1: line is for taking any o the show. If you're
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: a coach, treat the media properly. And let's not take
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  Speaker 1: for life for granted. We mentioned a few other people.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add ro quickly, Candy.
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  Speaker 7: Nope, I just want to be done so we can
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  Speaker 7: all right.
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  Speaker 1: We are finished tonight. God bless everybody every here. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see you next Monday. Night tonight, and everybody good night,