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- 0:00I got a ge I'd much rather own bitcoin than little eatie bitty expiration companies
- 0:06it's for or treasury. Yeah darn, but yeah, you know it's interesting,
- 0:11Carrie. It looked you know, we record that we're recording this on
- 0:14Monday the twenty second. If you just go back to last Tuesday, the
- 0:18whatever that is, sixteenth, man, it looked great. We looked like
- 0:23we were ready to rock and roll. In hindsight, now we can look
- 0:27back and see why we've been under such pressure for the last three or four
- 0:31days. You were listening to Carrie. Let'sa's financial survival network where you get
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- 1:03I'm your host Carry Lutz, and our good friend Craig Hemp keys with
- 1:07us and you find him at TF Metals Report dot com. Craig, go
- 1:11the medals are going down right now. And thought we were at the Promised
- 1:15Land but other good news. Bitcoin's going up. How about that? Hey,
- 1:21you know what, you're got to have some zig and some zag in
- 1:23your portfolio. A lot of people assume that I must hate bitcoin or something
- 1:29because I've been a gold enthusiast now for fifteen years. But now I owned
- 1:33both. Why wouldn't you own both? And so, yeah, that's been
- 1:36nice to see. You know, it looked a little shapyh what a week
- 1:40or two ago and it got down to what fifty five thousand or so?
- 1:42Right, fifty four? Yeah, I got a gell. I'd much rather
- 1:46own bitcoin than little eatie bitty expiration companies it's full or treasury. Yeah darn,
- 1:55but yeah, you know it's interesting Carrie. It looked you know,
- 1:57we record that we're recording this on Monday, the twenties. Second, if
- 2:00you just go back to last Tuesday, the whatever that is, sixteenth.
- 2:05Yeah, man, it looked great. We looked like we were ready to
- 2:08rock and roll. In hindsight, now we can look back and see why
- 2:13we've been under such pressure for the last three or four days. And again,
- 2:16I don't this is not surprising. Both medals are in kind of a
- 2:21trading range and have been for either sixty or ninety days, depending on which
- 2:25one you're looking at. I think we're set up though, after we get
- 2:30through this week and probably next or at least the first part of next week,
- 2:36we're set up for a very strong seasonal time August. Seasonally, if
- 2:42you average out all the August over the last twenty five years, August on
- 2:46average is the second best month of the year after January. So we're probably
- 2:52just a little bit of a washout, getting some speculative money out of gold
- 2:55and silver before we get the next leg higher. So we're gonna blow through
- 3:00twenty five hundred. Obviously, where is it going to stop. We're going
- 3:02to hit three thousand and then a pause. I don't think we'll make it
- 3:07that far. You know, that's the hard part. Uh. You look
- 3:10at silver and you can you know, and if you're trying to use a
- 3:14chart, a price chart to figure out you know, where the next resistance
- 3:17is, you look at silver and you oh, this is pretty clear.
- 3:20And we talked about remember we had to get through twenty six, then you
- 3:22had to get through twenty eight, and then once you got through twenty eight,
- 3:24you're going to go above thirty. And now we can see thirty four
- 3:27or thirty six, right, because that would those lows back in twenty eleven
- 3:30and twenty twelve. But gold and gold's never been here before. Yeah,
- 3:36so how do you try to project? Yeah? So, I mean there
- 3:38are people that do fibonacci, you know, extensions and stuff like that.
- 3:43Uh, carnal to say, let alone figure out how it works. See
- 3:50right, I Uh, let's just say this, gold well and silver too
- 3:55will continue to move higher in stages in a bull mark the way they always
- 4:00have as long as the derivatives market is allowed to set the price, and
- 4:05that's the discovery method that we have, then bull markets are gonna unroll the
- 4:12way they always have, which is kind of two steps forward, one step
- 4:14back. You get this big rush of excitement and inspecuative money comes in,
- 4:17and the hedge funds get long and the banks get short, and then you
- 4:21run out of momentum and you run out of buyers and price tips over and
- 4:26breaks a moving average, and then the spec money floods out and the banks
- 4:29cover their shorts, and then you reach the bottom. And then you go
- 4:32back and think of it as like a series of higher highs and higher lows.
- 4:35Did you see in just about anything. That's why I don't think three
- 4:38thousands of next target. It's probably more like once you have a clear breakout,
- 4:42there'll be another rush of enthusiasm, probably twenty six fifty ish twenty six
- 4:47or something like that, and then okay, well twenty five hundred's with any
- 4:53ear shot right, Oh last week it was within Yeah, we're looking at
- 4:57it last week at this time, so yeah. Yeah. You know what's
- 5:00nice carry is when you get into lawng trading ranges like this can work both
- 5:04ways. You know, when you're breaking down and price keeps bouncing off the
- 5:11support, and then everybody starts watching it and goes, oh, crap,
- 5:14if we break down through that level of I got to get out and you
- 5:16got all these cell stops in there. It works the other way though,
- 5:19too, when you break out of a range and gold's now been in this
- 5:23range for really ninety days, been up to twenty four fifty, twenty four,
- 5:28seventy eighty three times now, the same thing is true everybody, Oh
- 5:31it's a clear breakout. Okay, now there's and so that the longer you
- 5:35stay in a range, the more likely that you're going to have, you
- 5:39know, a pretty good popworn again. Look back at gold on the you
- 5:43know, for from twenty and twenty, the middle of twenty twenty to the
- 5:46first part of this year, gold kept banging up against two thousand, right,
- 5:50and this long drawn out rage, and once it finally blasted through,
- 5:55you would up one hundred dollars the next week, and then another two hundred
- 5:58dollars in the next five weeks because everybody saw it. And that's what we'll
- 6:00wait for as we get into August and September and that kind of break out
- 6:04again. So what about silver, you know, that's been the comeback to
- 6:10around the thirtieth range here and even lower. Yeah, it's under Silver is
- 6:15back to kind of what do you remember, Well, like I just mentioned,
- 6:19gold broke out in March. March the first was a Friday, you
- 6:24know, it tried to break out December first and then just got the chart
- 6:27got painted. Remember it's on a Sunday night, December the third. I
- 6:30was at lambeau Field to watch the chiefs and the packers. That popped like
- 6:33sixty bucks in like fifteen minutes of the session. Then they boom, they
- 6:38hammered it down one hundred and twenty bucks and now the charts painted. Everybody
- 6:42hates it, and they bought themselves. They be in the banks that you
- 6:45know, monopolistically control that market. They bought themselves ninety days to kind of
- 6:49get them their books right. And then on Friday, March the first ninety
- 6:54days later, gold breaks out on the weekly chart, closed like twenty sixty
- 6:58seven or twenty seventy five, something like that, on a clear breakout,
- 7:01and then rallied one hundred dollars the next all right, so rallies through March.
- 7:05There was like, well, why the hell is in silver going anywhere?
- 7:10The same thing like now and again I think this The reason is the
- 7:14same. It's because silver's kind of caught in the middle. You know.
- 7:17You and I think of that as a monetary medal and an investment, but
- 7:23most of the world thinks of it as an industrial metal. So it's this
- 7:27combination. So think of you've got up on one side of a barbell.
- 7:30You've got gold as a monetary medal, and you've got copper as an industrial
- 7:35metal, and silver's kind of in between. And if both gold and copper
- 7:39are going up, silver's going to go up. But if gold goes up
- 7:43and copper goes down, silver just kind of stays in between. Does that
- 7:46make sense, Yeah, and that's what's happening. Copper just blew higher in
- 7:51April and May and dragged silver along with it. Copper got to over eleven
- 7:57thousand a ton in London, it got to five five dollars and seventeen a
- 8:01pound in New York in the middle of by, and now two months later
- 8:05it's for to seventeen a pound. That's twenty percent decline. If silver were
- 8:11to fall twenty percent from its highs, we'd be talking twenty six twenty seven.
- 8:16So silver again, it's just kind of like I think that. I
- 8:18mean, it's kind of a brute force a metaphor analogy, but it's kind
- 8:22of one got up, the other guy down to it. It's just kind
- 8:26of rotating in the middle. So if copper to turn again and gold to
- 8:30go, that silver will break out too. Interesting that copper is staying above
- 8:33four bucks though, you know, just putting Yeah, boy, what a
- 8:37dog it has just been. And again for silver investors this will sound familiar.
- 8:43Go back to twenty eleven. Remember silver was soaring and then it got
- 8:48crushed on that May Day massacre of May twenty eleven, and then to see
- 8:52it, then the SeeMe raised margins five times in nine days, and so
- 8:58everybody that bought in the forties, all of a sudden they were underwater and
- 9:03they got margin calls and they all dumped and price fell into the low thirties.
- 9:07Well, the same They did the same thing to freaking copper in May.
- 9:11They raised margins four times in seven days. And so everybody that thought,
- 9:15you know, there's a short squeeze, there's you know, dwindling global
- 9:18stockpiles and all this kind of stuff. Everybody that got in from four fifty
- 9:22and four seventy and four ninety, all of a sudden they raised margins and
- 9:26then price collapses and they can all get flushed back out. It's just the
- 9:30same crap. And they do it every time, Right, is there gonna
- 9:33be a time way margins? And it doesn't respond. Remember the tamp tamp
- 9:39tamp from the silver squeeze. You know, it's like, whose side are
- 9:43you on? Well, we're on We're on the side of the bullioned banks
- 9:46and the precious metals and traffic Eura and the other uh, you know,
- 9:50the big copper dealers in the copper market. We can't have them getting squeezed.
- 9:54Remember there were back in middle of May, there was all these like
- 9:56Bloomberg stories about how their records show they were going to float in some copper
- 10:01concentrate, you know, on tankers to try to There were those stories.
- 10:07So instead they smashed the futures price and all the same, Oh witnesson,
- 10:09we get don't to worry about that kind of stuff. Problem solved, problem
- 10:15solved. Yeah, crazy crazy. So so you think this little lull that's
- 10:20coming up is a good buying opportunity, Craig uh, Yes, Like I
- 10:26said, from a seasonality standpoint, right, really late July through August in
- 10:31about the first half of September is almost as strong as late December and January.
- 10:39So I think that doesn't mean it goes up every August. Chances are
- 10:43August and then you look at, you know, kind of the economic fundamental
- 10:48picture of a slowing economy. All of a sudden, you know, everybody's
- 10:52thinking at least two rate cuts. We're going to get the FOMC meeting next
- 10:56week that maybe Powell's going to be hinting at what's to come, right,
- 11:01and then by later next week we get the next jobs report, you know,
- 11:07and all of a sudden, oh, that jobs report from July gets
- 11:11you know, revised down like almost every other job report. We're there,
- 11:15right, so the fundamental picture starts to kind of flip in our favor,
- 11:20I think in August as well. But in the meantime, first again,
- 11:24two steps forward to one step back. Let me like a stat on you,
- 11:26Kerry and I don't numbers. If I could flash us on the screen,
- 11:30if easier for people to, I want people to kind of steep,
- 11:33they can bump this we get with all commodities. The CFTC, the Commodity
- 11:39Futures Trading Commission, puts out a report every Friday called the Commitment of Traders.
- 11:43And it's not just gold and silver, I mean, it's everything.
- 11:46What makes hold and silver unique is there's always these banks that are always short.
- 11:50They're never long, always short. Sometimes they are long ass and P
- 11:52futures and bond futures and for X futures and oops, hit my microphone,
- 11:56they hit everything else. Yeah, they're so anyway, so we can track
- 12:01if you follow these things historically, which I do. I've got a stack
- 12:05of over ten years worth of these things handwritten on my desk to my right.
- 12:09That's this big stack of paperback here. Yeah. Then you can look
- 12:13for historical trends, okay, and then you can go back and look at
- 12:16price and go, well, what happened the last time? The structure within
- 12:20this report was like this. Okay with me so far? Yeah, I'm
- 12:24following last Tuesday when gold was right on the verge of breaking out and we're
- 12:30all excited. I was excited. Heck, I bought a call on Komik
- 12:31silver that day, That's how excited I was. There was a commitment of
- 12:35trader survey at the close when all these positions get reported. Now the CFTC,
- 12:41of course, they don't release that information the next day, don't.
- 12:45Oh, of course not three days later and after the close on Friday,
- 12:50seventy four hours later they gave you this information. Had we had this information
- 12:54on Wednesday, it might have impacted how people were trading. So what was
- 12:58the information on Friday? Let me, ladies on if within these categories you
- 13:03have large what they call large speculators, which are like hedge funds, family
- 13:07offices and the length. And then there are commercials which are like uh mine
- 13:11mining companies that still hedge or these bullion banks. Okay, here we go.
- 13:16As of last Tuesday, we got all these positions. The last time
- 13:20the large speculator category was net long, they got they got their gross long
- 13:26and grow short the net number. The last time that net long number of
- 13:31contracts was this high. Price fell one hundred and thirty four dollars in the
- 13:35next week. It's better, well, it gets worse. The last time
- 13:39the gross long the amount of just straight up contracts that the speculatory category is
- 13:43long comex gold price fell one hundred and seventeen dollars the next week. The
- 13:50next five days after that COT survey, the last time the commercials the banks
- 13:54were net short this many comex contracts as they were last Tuesday. Price fell
- 14:00one hundred and twenty two dollars the next week. All right, well that
- 14:03survey was last Tuesday. We've had three market days, and now as we
- 14:07record this, we on day four before the next survey on Tuesday, golds
- 14:11down about eighty five dollars. So far. Uh see a pattern here?
- 14:16Checking it's it sounds like a coincidence to me, and asked to me,
- 14:20it wouldn't have been handy knowing this history. For like the people on my
- 14:24site. If I could have gotten on on Wednesday and said, oh crap,
- 14:30this commitment of trader and known all this information. But I didn't know
- 14:33this information till Friday at three thirty Eastern. Then I got to go through
- 14:37all these sheets back here to get all dig all that data out of there.
- 14:39Uh you need an intern to put all this data on the computer.
- 14:45Yeah, really good point. I don't see. There are some things that
- 14:48are sackrisank that I got to have that, But the moral story is getting
- 14:52all this back to what we've been talking about for people that are still with
- 14:56us. We are now in a week where this week, in particularly the
- 15:01economic data is going to be funky. We got the next PCE report coming
- 15:05on Friday, so we've got to navigate our way through the inflation data.
- 15:09But on Thursday, the all the options for the August contract and Comax gold
- 15:15get priced. With all this bullishness, there's a lot more calls there aren't
- 15:18put so there's reason to kind of rig it down. Then you've got I
- 15:22mentioned all these speculators, hedge funds and the like that are long COMECX goal,
- 15:28Well most of them have been long the front month, the August contract
- 15:31when so they're gonna have to liquid it because they're not standing for delivery,
- 15:35so they got to sell those. Okay, so that's natural selling pressure.
- 15:39Now, if you take one hundred August contracts and sell them, but then
- 15:45immediately turn around by one hundred December contracts long, well the net pressure is
- 15:50nothing. But when price is going down, maybe wait, carry you going.
- 15:54You know, I still want to be long gold, but I think
- 15:58it's going to go down here in the show. So I'm gonna sell my
- 16:00hundred, but I'm only going to buy back fifty in December. Well that's
- 16:04fifty contracts in that selling pressure. Get enough of these large back liquidations and
- 16:11it's just a natural So you've got option expiration coming up, You've got uh
- 16:15that contract going off the board. That's a lot of just natural selling pressure
- 16:21that we're gonna have to deal with over the next six or seven trading days.
- 16:26So I'm just kind of expecting kind of a short turn low by then
- 16:30and then then we'll see what happens in August. You can see it.
- 16:33I can see it makes total sense here. And but like you say,
- 16:37they generally they haven't been able to turn back the seasonality right right, Yeah,
- 16:45again, it doesn't mean just like we don't go up in every January,
- 16:48doesn't mean price has to go higher in August. Big glee though.
- 16:53You know it's like people talk, oh, yeah, the stock market goes
- 16:56down in October, you know, or selling may and go away, that
- 16:59kind of stuff for the stock market. It's that's what they're talking about,
- 17:03is seasonality. So yeahhpically, and then if you combine that with like what
- 17:07I said, what if the jobs report on the first Friday after we just
- 17:11get through the FMC is weaker than expected finally, and the unemployment rateticks up
- 17:15again to four point third above disappointed expert disappointed by latest jobs report? Right,
- 17:21what if you get that kind of stuff, and then everybody won be
- 17:23waiting for Powell at the Jackson Hole symposium, you know, coming up in
- 17:27late August, and then he'll be setting the table for rate cuts, you
- 17:30know, as soon as the September, so that the narrative will could potentially
- 17:34shift, and that might be enough. I mean, Gould's already been anticipating
- 17:38all of this since March, but once it finally begins to happen, that
- 17:41might be enough to kick us out to the upside. Hey, what about
- 17:45rate cuts here? We've been expecting and expecting. They got to do it
- 17:48now, right, you would think, I know, I would normally say
- 17:55absolutely, And the FED Fund's futures and all those projections are now saying for
- 18:00sure too, maybe three cuts iNFiNiT funds before the end of the year.
- 18:06Back in the end of last year, it was obvious to me and I
- 18:08wrote about it in my annual forecast in January when they were saying seven or
- 18:14eight rake cuts this year, I thought that was there was no way that
- 18:17was gonna happen, and it you know, and obviously it didn't. Gold
- 18:22survived that and actually rallied, which is remarkable. I'm little skeptised, getting
- 18:29to be too many people on that side of the boat again. That's why
- 18:33I'm a little cautious as we get later into this week, like about this
- 18:36PCEE inflation data. If it comes in as slightly hotter and expected, everybody's
- 18:41gonna go, oh, no, well, maybe it's only gonna be one
- 18:42rate cut this year, and we're playing all those games again. However,
- 18:45once they get started and it becomes obvious and not only do they have to
- 18:51cut rates, but we got to get into end time something like yield curve
- 18:55controlled just simply so that we can fund the ongoing deficits of dead and the
- 19:00interest on the national debt as that all plays out. I mean, it's
- 19:03so fundamentally positive for gold and silver. But again maybe the next week or
- 19:07ten days we're just going to have to battle it a little bit. All
- 19:10right, all right, definitely interesting times here, Craig. So for this
- 19:17you take a longer review and you just buy physical then, right, Yeah,
- 19:21that's I mean, that's where we talk about it my website all the
- 19:23time. Are there are cas? You know, we talk about the mining
- 19:26shares because a lot of people own them. I own them too. People
- 19:30that are are members of my site can see the ones that I own,
- 19:33if you know, and then they know which ones to stay away from.
- 19:38But yeah, in the end, it's that physical metal that's your has always
- 19:42been your kind of lifeboat, you know, through the tempest to get you
- 19:48into safe harbor eventually. And there's just there's just acting. The math is
- 19:53the math, man, I mean, thirty five trillion dollar debt now we're
- 19:59paying over a trillion dollars a year just to service that. We get into
- 20:04a recession and tax receipts fall while spending increases. We're gonna be consistently running
- 20:11two trillion or more every year. I mean this, And is not like
- 20:14people should say, oh that Trump, he's gonna come in and he's he
- 20:18doesn't have a track record of being a deficit hawk, so I wouldn't necessarily,
- 20:22you know, look for some big change even if if Trump is elected.
- 20:26I mean, the math is the math, and this is all why
- 20:30again. Yeah, the best thing I've always you know, advised people to
- 20:33do is look at owning physical and you don't take all of your cash out
- 20:37of the bank and go buy gold and bury in the backyard. You wouldn't
- 20:40do that with anything but as a hedge against all of this, as an
- 20:42insurance policy against all this is again that lifeboat in the storm. That's what
- 20:47the physical medals are for. Yeah, that's it, exactly, the insurance
- 20:52policy, the ultimate insurance policy. And all right, well, hey,
- 20:56as always great talking to you, catching up and getting your latest take on
- 21:00things. Sounds like, sounds like as usually, you got a pretty good
- 21:04handle on it. And I encourage all of you to go over to Tfmetalsreport
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- 21:17here. It's been very annie over the years. I mean I remember like
- 21:22three years ago talking about this and bum like clockwork Greig. So, hey,
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