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This House Might Define Draconian Measures (And We Hate It) · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: It's however, it's all right.
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  Speaker 2: We are ready. Everybody ready, everybody ready, everybody ready. I
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  Speaker 2: is ready, I is ready. We is the drink, yep,
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  Speaker 2: I I am drink. We is the drink. That is
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  Speaker 2: my drink, custom custom deck name. This time he is
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  Speaker 2: the drink. Mm hmm was that that was said that to?
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  Speaker 2: I just posted that in the Yeah. No, when we
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  Speaker 2: were in the when we were in Baltimore was Baltimore? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we were we were drink. Yeah, I just it
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  Speaker 2: wasty we were. We were so drunk. Y'all followed me
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  Speaker 2: back and I had no idea where Yeah, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: then wanted, Yeah, she wanted to fight me for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not gonna fight you. He grabs my
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  Speaker 2: head and punches his own face with my hand. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, I can't wait for this time around
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  Speaker 2: because figs like, I'll make bloody Mary's and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you dirty person.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, he said bloody Maria's. There is lime, juice
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  Speaker 3: and tequila involved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. Wait is that in addition to the
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  Speaker 2: vodka or in do you add you add the VODK?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it tequila and stock?
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  Speaker 3: I just google bloody Maria, because I'm like, did you
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  Speaker 3: mean bloody Mary?
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  Speaker 2: What's a bloody Maria? Come on, I'm not about the
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  Speaker 2: tomato juice, So I don't. I don't make that many
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  Speaker 2: tomato juice drinks. I just kind of figured you'd know this. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that's kind of just one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: like you're like a somalier, right, yeah, so you just know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it looks like it takes out the takes
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  Speaker 2: out the vodka and adds tequila. I mean, I'm on
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  Speaker 2: board with that. Oh god, damn horse Radish tabasco and tapatio.
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  Speaker 2: I'm black pepper. This is delicious. I definitely like spicy bloodies,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't I don't mind them. I mean I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to, like, I don't want it to hurt
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  Speaker 2: coming the other way out to speaking spy all the directions.
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  Speaker 2: So so there was this at work, there was this
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  Speaker 2: uh salca making contest. So I was like, I'll make
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  Speaker 2: a salsa for sinco to my o. So so I
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  Speaker 2: make this salsa, put it out all this and then
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  Speaker 2: like people are going up grabbing it, filling up their plate,
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  Speaker 2: like getting a little bit on their chips. And I
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  Speaker 2: realized like, oh shit, I forgot to put the whole
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  Speaker 2: sticker and says hot on the thing. So people were
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  Speaker 2: not prepared for whoops, oh see you went that way.
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  Speaker 4: We did a chili cookoff and one of our teachers,
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  Speaker 4: who's been there for a very long time, is a
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  Speaker 4: retired chef and likes to go ahead and mix Carolina
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  Speaker 4: reapers in, but just doesn't tell people just one, just
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  Speaker 4: one reaper for a nice solid fifty five galon. It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't seem like much, but Carolina reaper really really, it
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  Speaker 4: really curious it, especially if you leave the seeds in there.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything that even says the Carolina reapers
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  Speaker 2: are like good, like everyone's like, they just taste like garbage.
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  Speaker 4: If you actually have enough meat with it, enough, it
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  Speaker 4: does actually balance.
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  Speaker 2: It outs because they're delicious. Hobby Euros are nothing. Are
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  Speaker 2: we recording? Yeah? Yeah, my butthole just puckered. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know about you, guys. I was like, oh, that was
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. Actually, this is good. Got that. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: Just keep this. Yeah, I haven't even done the intro yet,
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  Speaker 2: So what's new? Well, what's going on everybody? I'm the
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  Speaker 2: puckered butthole w o ok, I e talking about spicy
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  Speaker 2: food and my gut already hurts. But we've got the
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  Speaker 2: normal cast of misfits. We got the Doctor PhD of
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  Speaker 2: key Forge, Doctor m Sheep, Hello, the Deuce Ewalk Jr. Hello,
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  Speaker 2: key Forde Community, glad to be here. And the draft
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  Speaker 2: score of the draft score drass Core. Hey guys, it's
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  Speaker 2: a going it's time to rate cards. New set came out,
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  Speaker 2: I would say two weeks ago, probably in your hands,
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  Speaker 2: maybe of a week ago, everybody for freaking six months.
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  Speaker 2: No okay, it was out.
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  Speaker 4: It was us out at KFC, but it technically releases
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  Speaker 4: later this month.
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  Speaker 2: So I was gonna say you had you had what
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  Speaker 2: like odd dec maybe two and whatever? Ye, anyways, not many.
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  Speaker 2: And now the world, the world has opened before us
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  Speaker 2: to the sleepiest of dragons, the sleepiest of dragons. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to find out how sleepy Equedon is today, and
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  Speaker 2: you guys can it does release just so weird. I
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  Speaker 2: have such a problem with this because like, how do
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  Speaker 2: you do a pre release when you have oh I
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  Speaker 2: forgot about the yeah or pre release kits? How do
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  Speaker 2: you do a pre release when you have a game
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  Speaker 2: found that comes up before the pre release. Is it
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  Speaker 2: a pre release or is it just I think they
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  Speaker 2: just title it release event. Did they announce it like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was on that.
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  Speaker 3: They announced it after you could no longer order pre
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  Speaker 3: release kids?
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  Speaker 2: Are you cereals?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, because they put that up and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I never add our store order them, I'll just order
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  Speaker 3: them myself. Oh I can't order them anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right makes sense? I mean yeah, I would have.
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  Speaker 4: I would have liked that it just won solid Draconia
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  Speaker 4: measures that the Oberos pin that that would have been
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  Speaker 4: real nice for someone who actually cares about pins with
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  Speaker 4: it being Rando pins.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, there isn't much that really, is it? They got
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  Speaker 2: so many.
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  Speaker 4: I understand they have so many. But again, if you
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  Speaker 4: just grab here's here's a new house that's obos it's
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  Speaker 4: coming in for the release, it would be more enticing
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  Speaker 4: than just Rando pins, which.
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  Speaker 2: And I ain't gonna lie to you, you could more
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  Speaker 2: than likely order whatever pin you want. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: get it. I understand it's just to the stores, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing a vent, make the store some money, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all the things we've been preaching for.
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  Speaker 4: But Jrconia measures, I mean game found pledges have gone
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  Speaker 4: ahead and started shipping internationally. In US, A number of
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  Speaker 4: individuals here have had it. We were able to play
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  Speaker 4: a little key rarium this week at our locals and
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  Speaker 4: so it's fun. I definitely enjoyed. I enjoyed a new sets.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoyed playing TRACONI Measures. I did not enjoy the
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  Speaker 4: deck that I opened.
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  Speaker 2: To check out. You'll have to you'll have to wait
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  Speaker 2: for Peak to release things on the Archives Corner YouTube
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  Speaker 2: because I think he's doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, these may never see the light of day. They
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  Speaker 3: were They were a very rough first. I brought some
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  Speaker 3: random stuff. We grabbed random stuff around the store and
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  Speaker 3: set up a really rough recording setup just to get
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  Speaker 3: something and so we can start playing with.
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  Speaker 4: It.
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  Speaker 2: Will be we're going to refine it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I am one hundred percent find that this never
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  Speaker 4: sees the light of day because I literally got locked
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  Speaker 4: out in Uh it's turned water turned two and that
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  Speaker 4: was the game, So.
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  Speaker 2: Yay on that sweet PV locky out. No, No, this
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  Speaker 2: was all d M.
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  Speaker 4: It was all DRACONI measures, and uh yeah that that
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  Speaker 4: causes some real issues, especially if you don't have C.
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  Speaker 2: You know, C being important something just like most I
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  Speaker 2: mean there are. There are some houses with some good
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  Speaker 2: c in this set, so I think it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: little easier to get CE than it is in PV.
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  Speaker 2: Depends on your houses, which honestly is like most sets,
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  Speaker 2: but it feels a little more plentiful here. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like most sets. M yeah. But let's get into the
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  Speaker 2: stickiest of the ikey, the sticky ikey equadion. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how that came about, why we call them that,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, well let's actually and real quick, let me
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  Speaker 2: just tell you if you're if you're listening right now,
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  Speaker 2: click view all cards and that will bring you to
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  Speaker 2: so you can filter by draconian measures. And then if
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  Speaker 2: we are, instead of just sorting by name, you should
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to rare any order like we normally do.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, everybody ready, all right, I'm ready authorize requisitions.
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  Speaker 2: You get a pip a Vember every time you play it.
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  Speaker 2: It is an action play, a friendly creature captures to
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  Speaker 2: draw card.
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  Speaker 4: Are we not doing the repeat cards?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just new cards, as we always do. Just new cards,
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  Speaker 2: and to go ahead and talk about it because we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about new We'll talk about the repeats at the end,
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  Speaker 2: but for now, just new, just just the news stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What didn't you guys give and you get to capture amber,
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  Speaker 2: draw and capture and efficiency. Yeah, it's I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I I put in around four. That's what I put
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  Speaker 2: it as.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still had it as a three here. I
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  Speaker 4: think that it could easily be three four. I have
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  Speaker 4: no problem with it being four. You're gaining a lot
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  Speaker 4: with the amber and the draw and the capture.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It does do a lot, I feel. So
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty too. There's a lot of cards out there
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  Speaker 2: that just capture two, give an umber, capture two. What's
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  Speaker 2: the original Sanctum card. It's like the clothing reference for reading. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: the action kind of talking about wow, this is great poverty.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's a very different card. But no, pretty cool
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  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, the sanctum guy pointing at the
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  Speaker 2: naked aquan versu whatever, redress terms of redress. There we go.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it was a terms of redress, which is
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  Speaker 2: basically the same thing except you don't draw card. We
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  Speaker 2: had that as a three. This is a little better.
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  Speaker 2: It is a little better. I I'm like, nowadays is
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  Speaker 2: just capturing two? Is that still a three? It was
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  Speaker 2: a little bit in my head, so I did not
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  Speaker 2: bump this beyond the I have a wear pants.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's still okay. I'm fine with my four.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to correct my score.
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  Speaker 2: So both sounds like ewok and I both have threes.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a it's a positive three. It's you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's up there. But I don't think it makes it
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  Speaker 4: to four. I will tell you I did struggle with
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  Speaker 4: this dress as I had scored all of the houses
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  Speaker 4: earlier this weekend, so I went back and then re
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  Speaker 4: evaluated afterwards because I want to make sure that it's
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  Speaker 4: following a specific template overall. But there are some cards
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  Speaker 4: where you look at it and you're just like, eh,
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  Speaker 4: it's a three plus or it's a three minus, and
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  Speaker 4: there's a there's a substantial range, but I still threw
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  Speaker 4: it in a three.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna leave the draft score as a three. Then,
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  Speaker 2: but Sheep and Wookie have entered their my scores, or
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  Speaker 2: four users have seen it as a four. I have
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  Speaker 2: six users. I don't know. Well, I haven't refreshed mine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you repross the page, I'll tell you. Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 2: moving into blah four blaz four blah. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 2: annoying card to search for if you're trying to search
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  Speaker 2: for it. Sure, I can imagine. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: you'd be searching for this card. Yeah, what is the
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  Speaker 2: upside down character on top of the A and the
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  Speaker 2: or I don't know what those aren't real smiley face
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  Speaker 2: if they're not real, I mean those Yeah. No, No
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  Speaker 2: other language besides key Forge language uses that. Like you
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  Speaker 2: have a lot the two dots right, and then you
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  Speaker 2: have like the apostrophe. I guarantee they did not create
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  Speaker 2: their own font yeah for this, So I am sure
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  Speaker 2: that exists somewhere else in the world, doesn't use like
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  Speaker 2: key Forge does use its own font like you can't
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  Speaker 2: go download it, all right, So an upside you on
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  Speaker 2: top of the an inverted bread or an inverted arch. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if we learned something that we get to
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  Speaker 2: go home. Okay, well, blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: For is just that he's he's a decent bodied creature,
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  Speaker 3: so he's probably gonna get to reap his is you
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  Speaker 3: potentially can't use this guy to fight because you have
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  Speaker 3: the damaged creatures.
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  Speaker 2: Well up to so you can choose zero, but then
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  Speaker 2: you do need to exalt. So I actually went wrong. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for this, here just a four to two generic creature.
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  Speaker 4: In my book, it is it is a four to two.
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  Speaker 4: There is some more versatility here, and that you can
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and basically heal an off creature in order
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  Speaker 4: to exalt a different creature that you're going to kill.
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  Speaker 4: So if you know that, let's say I'm attacking a
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  Speaker 4: three power creature that already has a damage or two,
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  Speaker 4: I can go ahead and choose to heal that if
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to then pop it later, so it's now
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  Speaker 4: exalted to So it it does have a little more
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  Speaker 4: versatility than because it doesn't say your creature.
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  Speaker 2: It's right, But I feel like I still don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's still extraordinarily edge case of scenarios.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, two, I think I think I think it's a two,
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  Speaker 4: and I think she was right with the solid body,
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  Speaker 4: but I will say it's not The after fight is
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  Speaker 4: not as bad as you initially see it as.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have as a two, but it's there are
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  Speaker 2: moments where it's going to be good, but not consistently sealed.
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  Speaker 2: This might be an okay card. Yeah, I think it's sealed.
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  Speaker 2: It's like there's a lot more on board. It's not
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  Speaker 2: as it's not as focused like something. It's a solid reaper.
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  Speaker 3: We've got lots of cards to score we have. Now
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  Speaker 3: he's trying to put out work to do it. Let's
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  Speaker 3: go doing way we're gonna Burglar, Well not in this.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go man, all right, we got the ass Burglar.
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  Speaker 2: Bypassed Burglar. Two power, it's the ass Burglar. Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: the ass. Look at all those burgling that.
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  Speaker 4: Ass Jersey Jersey time.
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  Speaker 2: Two power, getty, Roog, thief and trench. When bypassed Burglar
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  Speaker 2: is exhausted. Each of its neighbors gains action, steal one ember,
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  Speaker 2: deal one damage to this creature. Why this is a
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  Speaker 2: Shadows creature is it not? But he's got to be exhausted.
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  Speaker 2: It's similar.
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  Speaker 3: This is Baker Hill. This gives the six power guy's ability. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so breaker guy that does action steal one deal one
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  Speaker 3: damage to himself.
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  Speaker 2: It's that guy. Yeah, well it provides it, but bypassed
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  Speaker 2: Burglar is very similar to to Breaker Hill, which was
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  Speaker 2: one power elusive. Each of breaker hills neighbors gain action
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  Speaker 2: steal one does not deal damage. Yeah, Baker is better
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  Speaker 2: than this, doesn't have entrench. He gains the power. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: gains power, which is maybe relevant, not relevant. Breaker Hill
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  Speaker 2: was a one, bypassed a one.
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  Speaker 4: This is this is This is better than Breaker Hill
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  Speaker 4: because it's in a different state, but it is still to.
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  Speaker 2: Be exhausted to use it.
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  Speaker 4: You reap and then just go ahead and use it
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  Speaker 4: outside of house.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's in trench, so he could just stay exhausted.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if it's outside of house, you can't reap with him.
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  Speaker 3: You have to leave him entrenched.
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  Speaker 4: That is where you have to go ahead and leave him.
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  Speaker 4: But if you have look at so here, each of
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  Speaker 4: its neighbors gains. So if it's in house, you can
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  Speaker 4: reap and then it still gains that effect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could argue, but the more I'm zero, I
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  Speaker 2: don't like it's a zero. But it's not good. He
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  Speaker 2: ain't making it. Yeah, okay, so we talk about another
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  Speaker 2: card then you mean Chromatic Guardian. Now for.
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  Speaker 4: You guys, actually have I added as a solid one?
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  Speaker 4: I think that the community Yeah, the community rating this
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  Speaker 4: is a two or almost two four going higher.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I do not see that. I really don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: draft core is decent enough not to expose what users
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  Speaker 2: rated it to us, so we cannot make fun of
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  Speaker 2: people directly. No, I'm putting it will be a Patreon
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  Speaker 2: exclusive episode. No, we're not going to be.
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  Speaker 4: But this, this is this is utilizing gem Coat vendor,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: which you were talking about earlier. Action steal one deal
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: one to gem Coat vendors. So that is a combination
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: abilities that are being put together for Bypassed Burglar.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I just don't think it's good.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: It's it's too weak at a two power in trench
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: that if it's out of houses, you really don't get
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: any use out of it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: This is a real bad card, right, sweet Chromatic Guardian
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: four power one armor Gettrukin Soldier. Oh okay, I read
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: this card wrong the first time I read it, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, can somebody explain this to me? But
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: now I understand if you are overwhelmed destroying enemy or
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: after fight, after reap, if you're overwhelmed destroying enemy creature,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: otherwise destroy an enemy artifact. Yep, and those are those
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: are decent abilities. Now it is not on play, so
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it's sky so he's gonna be pretty darn good if
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it was on play. But but jazz to live around.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Now it's got a little armor. He's got power and
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: some armors, so yeah, he is essentially you know, you're Yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: if you fight, then it's harder to destroy an enemy
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: with it, but maybe you want to fight so you
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: can destroy an artifact. But having a little r is good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was, I was putting out of three.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Uh, this is common, so you're gonna see multiples of them,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: just like bypassed Burglar. So on the bypass this I
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: would prefer to see over it. I think it's a
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: decent three. I had two of them in my deck yesterday.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: And the problem that I have is that isn't a
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: choice if you're overwhelmed destroying enemy creature. So if I'm overwhelmed,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I have no way to deal with an artifact. And
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: if I'm not overwhelmed, then like otherwise destroying enemy artifact,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: so like I needed an off area that would and
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: that that was frustrating just in the game that I had,
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: because there was an artifact that was absolutely soul crushing,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: so great to see. But that was just my individual game,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: so two of them didn't really help me. But I
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: think for to one, it has a presence on board.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: You can reap, it can do some things if you're
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: not if you're overwhelmed, here's destroying enemy creature. But it
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: also makes this easier to go down. So three is solid.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. That was a little higher.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's four when when you're behind it kills
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: more creatures, so that's good. And when you're head it
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: now can do something else. I can see that it
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: is an after reap ability, so it's not like you
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: have to fight to then get the ability right so
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you could reap and get one of these abilities. It's
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be a solid reap every time.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I like it. I edited a three three. Okay, so
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: sheeps some four. Everybody's a three three vanilla scar and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: this feels pretty good. I can see four here, but
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'll keep three here and that way. That way it's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a easy call. Dexter agrees. It's a three. There you go,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: all right, Conrad Fisk physique Cony. This is this is
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the most uh flavorful card in terms of uh name
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to ability. Uh, I enjoy go ahead. It's a two
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: power Getty rookt enhanced. You get an Ember Pippen two
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: plus one power counters. Stupid power play. You may move
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: each plus one power counter from a creature to another creature. Yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that that ability is not good. I uh, I mean
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's got an enhanced Ember, so that makes it not terrible.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I guess, but I don't really value the two plus
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: one powder counters that much of anything.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: I will I will counter that this is one of
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: those cards where it has an amber enhanced pip and
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: two plus and power and that's the only saving grace
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: of why it made it to a one for me.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Otherwise this is a dead zero. Like if it doesn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: have that amber, I think it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I always forget we could do zeros. Yeah, I always
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: forget we can do zeros. Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Also a common here, So I enjoy Sarah, it's fine.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I think it gets ruled out from the zero because
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: of the amber pit Like you're enhancement's right there.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Like, it's also just fun to say that you're playing
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Conrad physique. I don't know why, that's just it's just fun.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Sure interesting, all right? Uh so one or zero? Just
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: sticking with one zero sweet Dapper Chippeau. This creature gains
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: action deal for damage to a creature. That damage destroys
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: that creature, return Dapper Chappau to its owner's hand otherwise
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: attached Japper Chappau to that creature. Uh. Effect depends on
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: type of hat. I'm pretty sure that is the phrase
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I said out loud as I was talking with Luke
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and Barcas at KFC as like we were just like
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: talking and be like, Yo, wouldn't it be funny if
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: there was a card that acted like odd Jobs hat?
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And you know, we sort of designed this on the fly,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: just like chatting, and here it is, which is hilarious.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So it had nothing.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: It had nothing to do with the sweet cowboy hats
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: that we wore.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: That may have been how the conversation started maybe, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: then we started talking about odd Jobs hat. And then
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: that's why.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're thinking about when you have like
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: four active creatures. If you got four ready creatures and
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: ikey icky. You put it on the first one use action,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: you kill an opponent's creature, it comes back to your hand.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: You play it on your next ready creature action.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: So I do get four creature kills plus four ember
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: in Christmas Land. This is awesome. This is my this
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: is my believe in reality. You get to maybe use
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: this one to play it on another creature and then
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: it does not pop off again, so I then your
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: opponent has it right. Well.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I struggled with this because I did get I went
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: back and forth. I see what the scores listed. I
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: went higher because of Christmas slant, but I keep coming
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: back to it. I do think that if you I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: think as a just an upgrade itself, what's the.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: There's a crappy, crappy upgrade that is better than this
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: bone bone crusher. This creature gains action, destroyed creature. That
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: card sucks. Yeah, but that's this is worse.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, the problem you can sometimes get more
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: amber out of it. Yeah, and that's the thing which
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is not good.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not significantly better, like because this just
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: guarantees destruction. This if it's a five power creature, you
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: got to deal with. This card does nothing. This card
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: gives them the.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Ability to come back, and you don't forget we're in
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: a set with plus one power counters, so that deal
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: four isn't as cool as it used to be.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what, I hear what you're saying. But I think
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: that this is better than bone Crusher because of the
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: amber pip and the ability to bounce.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Bone Crusher just says kill it dead, doesn't matter. Yes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: but a million power audios.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: But that's one time and the chance to be able
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: to go ahead, especially with some of.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: The this is probably going to be one time as well.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah you're talking about For that to be a reality,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: you already have to have multiple ready creatures in equadon
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: and the board.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And this is something we've talked about, is those kinds
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of cards cards it's a win more well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Or Yeah, cards like bar Raising they suck because you
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: have to have stuff sitting on the board to make
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that card good and that's just not a reality you
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: can actually count on.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not an ark on. So after this might be better.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think this is a one. I put
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: it as a one as well. I walked into a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: two after Sheep said things I'm like, no, let's live
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: in reality. I mean there's off like a time. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: mean I could go down to a two. I the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are times when this is going to
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: be great, but I get that that is Christmas Land
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: This card is funner, it has a FUNNLD, but that
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's a good card.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I can agree with this.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I have downgraded my three to a two, and I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: stand by that, all right, I don't This is not
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: a one.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: This is not going to update.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: This is not the same as Conrad physique or Burglar
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: this no, no.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Conrad physique you almost never have to discard. Where
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Dapper you might just be discarding because you don't want
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: to put it on one of their creatures. Well I suppose,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I guess, because the worst they do is kill it,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: kill your creature and then give it back to your hand.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: But that's also potentially garbage because then it's a chain
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: when you don't want it. Now, I don't like this card.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I want zau of these.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Negative four dappers. And then the isn't even a dapper hat.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's a stupid looking thing, not even.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: The type of your hat that's a great hat.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm gonna make that hat and wear it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to KFC. Done. We all should, oh man, a much
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: better card called Drastic Measures.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Only only if we all get in line and throw
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: all our hats at Luke.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I mean I'm game. I'm in se see
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: if four damage destroys them or not. Otherwise you got
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: to give him your hat, which I guess you threw
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: it at him. Uh. Yeah, that he gets to wear that,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he gets to throw his hat back at you. Yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: aage all right. So Drastic Measures is an action purge
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: up to two cards from your hand. For each card
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: purge this way, gain one. Is really like, I'm really
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: liking this garden theory. Yeah, I get a little bit
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: of the efficiency and some amber. I put it in
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a four permanent permanent efficiency, permanent efficiency, permanent. You got
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that dumbest ship in your hand? Not anymore.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: It's also which means if you actually have really good cards,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you don't have to get rid of them, right. I
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: just don't see where you don't two creatures into amber.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: You want that umber? Yeah, I am. I do think
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: this is a four. I'm going to upgrade the drafts
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: score two four.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: You know, What is very annoying on dress score is
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I went through and scored all the cards and then
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: you did an update and none of my score saved.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Really, how do you save your.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: You just change it? But it must have I must
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: have already been logged out and win.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It if you log especially if I bounce the server
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: because I'm making updates for you. Yeah, definitely.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So all of my changes are not fantastic.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: That sucks, dude. All right, well I was making a
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: change for you. You requested it. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine. Three.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I'm good with it, although that I am changing, so
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of doing mine on the fly here a
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: little bit. But even swap another action pip a Vember.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Every time you play it, play give control of two
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: friendly creatures to your opponent, one at a time. If
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you do take control of two enemies creatures one at
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: a time, this is so good. I So I.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Watched this get played a few times and it was
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: not There was a lot of situations where they didn't
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: have two creatures when they wanted to play this card.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So that is just one one creature to your opponent
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: and get bathing. No, you're having to give two to
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: be able to get anything back.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Sure, and it's still very too hard to give to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: it just says one at a time. I mean give
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: give Conrad physique and bypass Burglar to your opponent and
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: take to their.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Pools and leave them exhausted. Yeah, there there are places
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: where this card is great. I just don't agree with your.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Score of it. There's there's there's a lot of capture.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Are you what are you thinking? Yeah? This is really good,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: really good. I just don't know if it's a six.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I guess I can live with a five.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: It is my score as a five.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Do you got four? Four? There is a lot of
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: capture in the set? There is a lot of Still, yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I can understand that. But it's like you said, I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: have to give two to get anything to get. I mean,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm giving it either way. So as here.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Here's the other thing that you do have to remember,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: and we talked about this car before, is if you
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: have two good creatures, you can still play this for
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the amber. Give them your two good creatures and go.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: I'll just take my two good creatures back because teachers
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: are junk. Because you've already given that. Okay, never mind,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: I can get behind it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if I can give it a six,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: but I can give it a five. The five is
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: fine there. If you captures are all five, then by
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: rule I'm gonna change it to a five. But I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: going to update my score to a six.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: So you can look for this stupid card and you're fine.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I will tell you that true story. Uh No, c
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: and plus one power counters don't do much and also
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: capture pips. Yeah, that's not the way to win it, KeyForge.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: So nope, it is when you can do things like
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: this and give all your amber to your opponent.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: That's it's a rare. It's a rare there. And yes,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I did not have.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Cards coming up that that swap like reading it as.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I did not read it as kind of a pseudo exile.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: So so so you know what card? All right? Hold on,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: what's the car exchange program? Exchange program reads you get
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: an ever play, choose a friendly frank flank creature and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: an enemy flank creature. If you do swap control those creatures,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that's a five, which is why five this this is
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: just better than that by a good amount.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make it into that six. Again, there's a
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: range there. I think that that probably needs to be
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: probably pushed closer to a four in my score, but
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I'm still fine with I'm still fine with it being
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: a five. I do not, I do not see it
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: as a side.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I think stealing you're I I think you're I think
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: there are some general undervaluing of stealing creatures recently still
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: super strong, but I don't know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I'm with them.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: This car is a five to me. It maybe is
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: a six, but I don't know it. It isn't perfectly
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: reliable because of the one creature or no creature life
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: that you could get stuck living.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of good cars that sometimes
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: don't do anything, but there's a Yeah, there's plenty of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: good moments though, But okay, all right wing excel Don
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yash three Power Human Merchant. After reap Capture two. You
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: may discard a card if you do move one umber
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: from Exceldan Yash to your pool. This already existed as
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a Mars card. Yeah, it's a card handle Lamby Lynx
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Candy Linx card.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: If you do, your opponent loses one functionally the same
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: thing as this. It's actually this is one more capture
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't have the scrap of candy.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Links scrap really good.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Wow, somebody my my scored Yandy Lins as a one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: What kind of clown did that? Man? There was some
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: way we could know, but here, okay, it is actually
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: annoying for me to figure it out right now the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: way I have it, because then everybody it's just the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: code in the database, so I have to go cross reference.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they're in the background working on craped aptive scoring.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe doing one zero.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: So I will tell you at an uncommon slot, this
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: pulled weight yesterday for my ike I.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: It is slow.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: It is a very good reap effect because what you're
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: doing is your amber control capture two discarding a card,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: which most of the time why would you an efficiency,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: And then it's really reaped for two because you're capturing
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: getting rid of one of that so that you're taking
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: it right away.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Oh it's moved on to your pool. Oh yes, yes,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: I in common pool. So that's even stronger. It's steel.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: It is it is it is steel. It is steel.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: It is still three. That is it is it is three.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: That's some witch level bullshit, because like I kill Yandy
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Lynks is like they're going out of style because that
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: is just too much efficiency. You can stay in house
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: and you're generating lots of value. Yeah, this thing, this
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: thing is at least a three, if.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Not a four. It's in that three plus range. To me,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I'm at three at the moment. But I could see
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: the argument. I don't think I really played this, dude yet.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I think it might be that there isn't enough other
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: cards maybe that we want in this house to want
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: to stay.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: There, but decent number of Equadon. I've been enjoying equadon
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: because you want to their sappers, right, and there's uh,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: there is ready in in in house. Man. I just
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I want to like this card. But again, I just
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: think it's like, I mean, he's, well.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: You you live in this world of If it isn't
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Trunk's creed, you don't bother playing it anymore. It's like
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: if it doesn't win in one play, I'm gonna be
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to play it. But like it's it's in
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: that Goldilocks zone of three power, so it's very it's killable,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: very killable. Like you said, it is witch status, right,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I do I do which problem? Possibly need to kill
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: this because that is a lot of a lot that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: is ember control and functionally a steel.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: There.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: That is an interesting thing is it's not actually a steal,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: so anti steel effects don't work right anti but pertunately
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: it's a steal, and it gives me some efficiency on
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: top of that to be able to get rid of
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: some junk in my hand that I'm not really interested
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: in at the current time.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: So I had this initially at A three. After playing it,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: I had bumped into a four yesterday. I did go
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: back and actually update that before our cast, just because
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: you just see the capture two. But you're gaining a
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: lot out of this. It is slow at the three
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: power needing to.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Be gaining a lot out of it. It is slow,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and it is like again it is does it doesn't
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to die if I see it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: But there's not a ton of targeted Like I know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: you keep looking at the.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Do you mean I can throw my hat at it?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You can throw your hat at it, but look.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: But look, I mean, I mean we talk about that,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: but looking at the targeted removal in draconian measures, I don't.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeh, But right, this is everything. There's so much deal
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: three damage kill this creature. I still think it's it's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: it's a three power strong reep effect.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: If you want to make it a three or a four,
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: it's not I'm.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Cool with a three. I don't know if I can
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: pushed to a four.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't pushed it to a four either, but I
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: have also not played with equad.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I had it at a two. After after all the talk,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I've I've come up to a three. I just I
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: see this guy just just being sounds like this card
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: pile good. Okay, it sounds like it's a three right now,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I with further play, meaning if I play this card,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I might I might go higher. All right. It is
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the Fiat trans coder. If you needed a trans I
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: read flat. You know, for a while I read I
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: kept reading flat too, But I'm like, oh, trans it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: can code by car.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I do feel like missing the fix it again, Tony
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: as the.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Flavor text is mm hmm, yeah, we get Maybe we
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: shouldn't touch it. That's a good that's a good rule
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: of life. Maybe you shouldn't touch it, but it don't
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: touch Wookie, lick this stone and give it a g
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I A I will. It is an artifact action. Lose
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: one amber if you do take control of an enemy creature.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Taking control of enemy creature is pretty good and the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: one amber is not terrible for the potential game. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you chose was a card in shadows before that, I
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: was scolded was a bad card, but that would kill it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: There was a mass mutation card. I think it was
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: mass mutation was losing Ember destroyed enemy creature. Now it
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: was an action card. Yeah, whispers pay an umber blow
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: up an enemy creature. Pain and Umber to destroy a
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: creature is not typically as good as paying Ember to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: gain control of a lot of creatures. Yeah, I mean
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: you share any houses. It's strong. I agree, it's it's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it's better. I don't know if I.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Think taking control of cards with all the status effect
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: creatures that exist in this world, now these.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Cards are really really good. I mean this steals brio.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: And in a lot of ways you got to think
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: about like you as well. As it doesn't have a
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: pile of amber on it. Taking control of an enemy
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: creature is almost, if not as good as destroyed it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The only downside I guess is it for the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: new overwhelmed effect. I guess, but that I don't know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that's a big deal. I don't know the the.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Whether this is a four or a five, A five
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: because you can use it many times, or because it's
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: a stinking artifact and it's slow so it's all you
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: might not even use.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It and you have to go back to Equadon and
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, that's the which I think. This is
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a house you want to go back to. There's there's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: some I don't know, there's some decent creatures to play
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: around with. I don't Yeah, there's also a lot of
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: decent trash. Uh okay, uh yeah. You guys are saying four.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I gave it a three. I give it a five.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I know you did. I was going to leave it
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: as a five. No way ft five? What do you?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Where are you at? You walk? Oh? Four? Four? I
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: love it. I love to take but I gave it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: a three. Three Yeah, artifacts, you know I hate artifacts. Artifacts,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: slow artifacts, don't care ever, right, I'd rate it lower
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: if it didn't have a good ability when we start
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: crushing your face with our good artifacts and cry, yeah,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I will probably not since it's rare and we won't
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: see it very often, or it just ends up being
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a stinker because you don't ever want to go back
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: to equadon because you're stuck with Elena.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: This is so, this is actually maybe not as good
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: as the look at an opponent's card at random and
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: pay them one to play it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Oh no, this is way better than that. Really. Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: it is a random card in their hand which might
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: not even be a creature like well, but you have
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the choice of not playing it too. Sure, you have
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the choice of not using this. I don't know, four
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: or five whatever, I don't care, but it's in that range.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: This is why I love my score. I get to
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: see what cards I really want to look for.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Ye, all right, I'm going to move it to a
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: four based on the group here. So all right, I'm
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: going to read this card, and I need somebody to
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: hold my hand while they explain it. Yeah, this has
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to be the most convoluted card we've ever printed. No,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: maybe not. I know there's a couple other convoluted ones
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: that like nobody plays, but there's far too much text
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: on this card for me to even care. But it
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: it's a key sheet, So can I do so? Forged
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: currency play move each plus one power counter and each
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: ember from friendly creatures to the common supply. Forge a
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: key at plus six current costs reduced by one EMBER
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: for the total number of plus one power counters, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Ember moved to the common supply this way. Okay, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: read it slower now, I understand it better. All right,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: cool to a minimum of six to a minimum yeah,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I luke, stop that. I don't think this is goodenough.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is good enough to be
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: to a minimum of six. Wow.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: If it did, say, okay, just skip reading the key
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: cheat part. Remove all amber from friendly creatures to the commons.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Just read it for that effect. Yep, And that's good
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: right that that is a car that we desire in
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: other sets. There is definitely capturing this set. Just that
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: part alone. Ignore the fact that your G two. Sorry yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: it hits each amber and each amber from friendly creature.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: It is only friendly. Oh you're right, wow, only dump
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the captured amber. You have This card right now? Is
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: really good card? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: That might be a benevolent charity. Yeah, this might be
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: six of the five. I think the five is right.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Benevolent charity is a four no amber pip. You're right, yeah,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: but this might keep you and minimum of sex. Maybe
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you don't need you don't need maybe five. I'm gonna
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: go with five. I have five right now? Yeah, five
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: and five? Okay? Any argument to go up or down? Well?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Perfect game change. I'm sorry. I'm on the dress score
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: and I just like Game Changer even though he's perfectly bluffed.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: He's a reprint a Golden Dagger three power Getty Rouken Merchant.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: After reap, you can deal three damage to a creature.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: If this damage destroys that creature, its owner's gain one.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So am I willing to give you an umber to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: kill a three power creature. I've just been killing my
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: own Conrad Physiques bid has Burglars. I'm like, all right,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: well I got something out of him die. But right
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: now we are on the gold.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: I think that there is a card that we're going
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: to see as a common slot that will deal with
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: so being overwhelmed that this does okay with the game.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: That Amber as a common card, it gives you a
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: little bit of c I actually found that I was
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: reaping to deal three damage to creatures that weren't necessarily dying.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: That was also helpful for my opponent because they did
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: look at it as like I don't want to give
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: them an Amber, mostly because I didn't have amber control either,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: but I think it's okay.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Are you guys looking at the crazy even swap combo right,
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: because this is its owner. So you give them control
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: your creatures and then you golden dagger your creatures. You
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: just gave them and you get the amber. Mmmm, that's wow.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Controller, It's yeah, I don't think that's means a very
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: big difference. And I guess but the fact that at
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the creature that I don't love this card, something tells
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: me that's going to be a rotted no, this will
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: this will keep this. Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: This is also not a may effect. Yes, so like
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: he reads, he kills himself sometimes.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get that's very sad. Yeah, it's period
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: and the rest of it just fizzles. He just yeah,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: yeah cool.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: There are so many creatures in this set.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: I might have overrated this creature I have as a
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: three right now, but I try to two you walk.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I had it at three after playing, I'm fine with
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: the two.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's pooh too, all right, Hot Mark November.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Every time you played it, it's action play exhausted creature
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: if you do ready a creature and yeah, I did
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: say a pipp member every time you play it are.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: So many even in this house decent reap and use
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: a fact and this is exhausting one of their creatures,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: or even at worse, you exhaust one of your off
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: house creatures. It isn't if you do so, it is
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: not a turn one, turn two plain necessay because if
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: they don't play a creature, there's nothing to exhaust. Because
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: this is you actually have to exhaust it. If the
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: creature didn't tip over, you didn't exhaust a creature, and
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: you don't ready a creature. I but this is still
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: very very strong.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was considering to bump this up to them.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's ready and uses where it's at
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: right now in this game is and this is this
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: is a good one. Yeah, a lot. It's an empty board.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: You can't do it. But and if you don't have
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: an equin on creature, it doesn't matter. I suppose there
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: scenarios where you want to ready a entrenched opponent's creature,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: like that'll happen once'able. But this is good. I'm actually
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: thinking about moving this my rating up to a five.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: No Dexter agrees. Dexter says the five. Yeah, my score will.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Doesn't walk doesn't like anything anymore, You're doesn't like anything anyway.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like things.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry that we disagree with you and so as
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: a result we're wrong all the time.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that disagreed with me, worked.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: That that's why we can That's why we can use
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I score to put this out of four for me
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: and five or six or whatever you want.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: But I break the tie, so I'm going to five.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I'm upgrading it now. My score will be a four
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Crisper rolled four power one arm or human after fight
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: take control of an enemy artifact. I agree with Dexter.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: What is this art? Is that? Lisa l gaib and
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: then the little baby little babe sandworm. Yeah, the best
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: end worm that's gotta drink the lifeblood of like like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: a weird space baby babe Shi Hallod. Yeah, like I
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: don't even know, Like he's what I don't even know
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: he's got what is this thing that's not not in
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: his hand? Is it a karooki arm thing that they have?
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: There's that other there's that their race or whatever where they.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Have something goofy on their left arms or crap. It's
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: like a little grabber hand is super weird. Oh maybe
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: is this guy it's just an equadn thing. Yeah, I
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: got no idea what's going on? I mean the art definitely.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: How I like.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: How he's got his little play you know, he's making
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: sand castles. Guy a little scoop in his bucket.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah, yeah, this is is this like somebody's
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: art card and they're like they described this wild scene.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I really want to be building the sand castle. Yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I really want to pay Yeah sild and uh yeah
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: what they have to do with taking good roll of
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: any artifacts? Like a slide in the background, like right
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: behind him is that?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always he's in the same thing of a
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: of a play.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a playground. Yeah, I think, uh that's
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: it's it's like the fun version of We Are All.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: It's like that heard that's come to life or something. Yeah. No,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and then it's in festive with crabs. Okay, take your penicillin.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I mean take control of an enemy artifict is a
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: good effect, yeah, uh, taking it away from your opponent.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: If even if it's an action, it's good, I guess.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it is one tiny iota better than
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: russ now.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: It is better than russ Nower, but in a hugely
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: meaningful way.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: To me, I think are equivalent. Rustnar is a two.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why somebody doesn't like it. I don't think
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: this is a point better than run.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: For one take control. It is one Baybay Sandworm better
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: than russn all right. Anyways, so what do we give it?
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: What are you? Where are you at? You walk? I
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: had a three, I think that three. I got a three.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: The other guy's got two, so we're giving the deuce.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I think the body by itself is where we had positioned.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: It's on borderline there, I think. Yeah, I definitely have
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: other four ones in in this set as two. Yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Well, but again, if you look at previous sets, this
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: is where it gets interesting. Some of the cards need
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: to be adjusted, but right here it's it's on that
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: border of two three.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I still have it as a three for artifact control.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: It can it can live in the three land, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it plays in the two world anyways. Not a tax, yeah,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: not a tax. Not a tax, Pip November. Every time
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: you play it, it's an action play your opponent discard
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: is a random card from their hand. For each bonus
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: icon on the discarded card, they lose one. We have
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: this card already, just at a new house. Yes, that's
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: not mine steel one instead of this is this is
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: like a step between mind mind Fire, mind Fire, and
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: the one you're talking about. Yeah, so this is a
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: worse mind Fire. I guess, well, but mind fire doesn't
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have a PIP.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: What What's what I'm talking about the mind fire? And
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: then there's the coda one where it was just discarded card,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: mind Barb, min Barb, mind Barb, mine Barbs are two two.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: I think mind fires are two as well. This is
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the mind fires A two? Yeah, I think this card
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: is this for this for this one too? Yeah, all right,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I'll agree with that.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Is there a pip on mind.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Mind Fire does not have a pip? Neither does mind Barb,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: but I mind does have a mind Barb does have
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: a pipy right, yeah, I think.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: It's it's still probably I had it as a three,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: but I can hear it's an upper two because you're
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: gaining discarded card.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Can another account to vote again to make this a
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: two point five? So we're all happy, No, you do
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: what we want, but I'll donate a dollar to the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Patreon again. Oh well, then you definitely can Yeah, I
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: just say it's too like it's not reliable umber control. No,
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it's definitely not reliable. It's it's like it's that random thing.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Card right, yep, exactly. That's why this isn't again the
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: This is a better card than mind bar, but not
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: a point better card than mine.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I can see that deuce dose the deuce now and later.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Not not just a candy anymore. It's now an action play.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Return a creature to its owner's hand, and archive a card.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: If you are overwhelmed, repeat the preceding effect.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: I had two of these in my deck yesterday and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: at a common slot. I am very happy to see
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: this card.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very one of these.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, so a so return a card to a creature
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: to owner's hand. That's fear. That's a one our chive
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: of card. That is well, well, there's an opponent. You
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: can return your own creature. So, okay, you're right, I
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: did miss that, so it is a little better. And
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: then archive of card is worth four.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: We really like that.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: And then there's a potential for this to go twice
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: because you could be returning your own creature, which is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: on again and is period it's after you return the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: first creature you evaluate correct.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: And so this is where I gained quite a bit
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: of value yesterday is being able to bounce my own card.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: You can bounce it a second, then bounce one of
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: theirs correct, And so that is where if it's close,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: you have quite a bit of control you have. If
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: a creature is damaged, you can bounce it if it
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: is in house and you can use it and it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: is damage, okay, now I can replay it. If it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: has a good play effect, you can replay it. Just
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: even the archive a card to set up for a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: house that you're bounce into later. This has a lot
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: of versatility, and there is in.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: D M alone.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: There's actually not a ton of archive paid a little
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: bit pks out there and a few others.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: But yeah, ironically, as soon as I wanted to.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Say it was it was in our play group yesterday.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: So yes, because I had two of them in hands,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: so I went ahead and did this sweet little play.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: But I had one card in my archive before, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: so I I went ahead and had three from this
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: action because I chose not to go ahead and use
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: to bounce my own creature on the second one, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: so I had three and the response was pika and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I'm like he was laughing as he played, like.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, I walked into that one.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to know it, but if
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: you see geistoid, it's something to.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Be aware about.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: With all the value, I can see a five, it's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: a it's a solid five.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Amber makes me want to say four, but five is far.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Remember the good old days when we
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: preat the preceding effect didn't have a period and it
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: was a comma so good. This card will be borderline
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: busted if it did that. Oh yeah, that where you
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: just archive in my hand at that point, yeah, bounce
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: all my creatures arek on my hand. Now, I just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: bounce your creatures. I bounce your creatures. Would you look
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: at that? Yeah? All right, that would be a phenomenal
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: And in the world of Trenk's creed, I don't think
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. But anyways, let's go to Donnie Lars. I'm sorry,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: what did we all have? Oh? I put it as
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: a five. I thought we were all in agreement on five.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, okay, very good though, I'm sorry. This isn't Donnie.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I just looking at this is an O. So this
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: is owners. Totally thought that was a D for Donnie. Yeah,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: their makes it look like a D. So, but this
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: is OONI Lars six power, Getty, Rook and politician. After reap,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: you may pay your opponent one number. If you do,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: your opponent's keys cost plus four during their next turn.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: He has some power creature and you don't have to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: use the reap effect. But it could be that stall
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: you need to win the game. So fine. I marked
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: it as a three, but maybe it is a four
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: just because it's a six power body with a functional
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: reap effect when you need it.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Yeah, I had it as a four.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: I downgraded it to a three because yesterday that's all
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: it could do is stall the game another turn. So
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: really bad, I understand, but it is really tainting. Like
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: the idea, Okay, I'm giving you one more. I extend it,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: but you're already in problem. It's more a reap.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: It's a may you're not forced to pay your opponent one.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: But yay, it's a three. It's a body. Yeah, I'm
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: on the fence here. I have it a four right now,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I'm rereading it. I've not played this card. Yet, what
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: is lash of broken dreams? He low like lash is
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: probably three, maybe lashes the three. Now we you know,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: we haven't gone back and redone redund scores for a
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: bunch of cars. So essentially this is a lash of
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: broken dreams and a stick.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Right, So now it is not as good as a latch,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: well except you are reaping, so you are.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna I'm going to reap to give
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: this ember to you. You can trade it with Brio,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: so you know, I think it does kill Brio. It's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: a six does kill Brio, and it's rare, so you're
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: not going to get piles of them. I think a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: three is respectable because there were split on three and four,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: which kills Brio. I'll give it a four, okay, all right,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Well I'll go out my point because it kills Brian.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: All right. We've got the Gigantic next for equadon the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Golden Queen. This card's got a lot of text, so
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: you got to play both halves. Obviously. Each player refills
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: their hand to an additional one card during their draw cards.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: Step after fight, after reap, each player discards a random
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: card from their hand for each excuse me, your non
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: aquadon card discarded this way gain one. Yeah. So one
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: thing I should call out before we say our scores.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: So the the original draw better the website done by
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Sol he implemented a whole ton of crazy requirements that
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Z had that were kind of annoying to implement, including
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: the ways he handled mechantics. So I did not do that. Basically,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: the way I handle it is there are two Golden
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Queen cards in the deck. Therefore each card provides whatever
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: score we provide here, so we should consider that as
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: we score this. Okay, then I drop it to a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: one year Okay, I mean it also comes with one
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: of the find it cards, right.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But those in the scores version of this, those
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: are scored separately, although they are all link which means
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: you are now they added a bunch with more.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I know they added some, but aren't they all the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: same text? No? No, some of them are ve some
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: go to your hands, some going to tap a deck. Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyways, this we we saw a double of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: these played yesterday. I tell you what, if they're not answered,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: you can stay in house because you get to play
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: your echoed on cards and then you get rid of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: your echoed on card and get amber and disrupt your
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: opponent is actually not terrible, but I had too.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: It's still too easy, too deep.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Remove uh true true story. Two top halfs do not
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: actually equal the Golden Queen.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: No, that became a golden Witch because it had visible Yeah.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I would love to see a foil version of this
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: card of the Giants. Yeah, I am with sheep. Now
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I am down to all one and and I am.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Never a fan of both player the cards they give
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: both players hand sizing grace. I actually think those are
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: often a discard. I don't like that effect. Yeah, you
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: can give me, give me other people more. Efficiency is
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: just never there is rarely good.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: But I do get to discard a random card from
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: their hand, putting them back down to their original hand size.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Never, that's only if you're which as as they have
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: uh either on fathomable or O boris. Your guy's never
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: going to be ready and is never going to do that.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had it at say two overall, but
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: since it is two cards, it is a one for
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: each of the halves.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Like this is this is just a card. I do
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: not want to open one of these? All right, Well,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: then we're downgrading it to a one. Le we go
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: saving love it all right, all right, vast stike sto
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: another impossible to search for card. Now I feel like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: that's their goal. You're never going to search for So
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: it's fine, right, Well, it's four power, one armor, taunt
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: after fight move one ember from a creature to the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: common supply. If you do, you get to draw card.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: This is disappointing that it's a fight effect. If this
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: is a reep effect, that this would be for it's
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: the fight effect. Yeah, that's a taunt. Because it's a taunt,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: it can be a three. Yeah, that's why I did,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it wouldn't be decent tonk creatures in the set.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: M h. I hate this card. I hate it so much.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: For one tent with a functional fight effect. It's not
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: a great fight effect, but it's functional. That's common, which
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: means I'm gonna see just this.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Is also from a creature to the common supply. Yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: so it's you know, you could have to remove one
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: of your amber if you want it. Oh no, it's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: not even a choice. Yeah, yeah, it's still fine. I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: think it's fine.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I know I went about killing one yesterday because it
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: was is it one as bad, two is still bad,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: three as what I will tell you hair. If you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: go to the filter by scar, it tells you zero
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: was trash. One is poor, two is below average, three
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: is average, four is good, five is very good. A
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: six is a chase card, don't I don't know. If
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: I was in sealed, I'm fine with this, but I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: think in ARCon, I'm just like I don't want these
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: like sealed. It's a functional reaper, like ar Coon. I'm
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: just like eugh as a reaper an arc, and it
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: can protect them of your other creatures that have higher
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: value me five power before we have said lives to read. Fine,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: I'll leave it at three, all right. I think this
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: is a good definition of an average card. Yeah, it
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: is very average, but just.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: No taunt, it would be below. But taunt makes this
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: a I don't know, the first entirely useful card.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get to do its power every now and again.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I suppose, uh, wasp cream. Nobody wants to change, nobody
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: wants to correct. It's it's wasp scream. I don't know
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: it's a wasp scream. It's sort space in between them.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Two power insects, cyborg entrenched and poison at the start
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: of your turn. If the wasp cream is exact to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: take control of an enemy creature, why to take the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: control of enemy creatures in this set? M hmm. This so.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Again, I'm I'm having I'm actually having a bit of
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: a hard time deciding where this goes because I I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: know the way I've been playing, especially in DM alone,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: taking your opponent's creatures is has been super strong. I'm
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: just not worried about being overwhelmed overwhelming them. I mean,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: like it is what it is like you're waiting they'll
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: find overwhelming. So but this one, because of the timing window,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: a clever opponent can abuse you, right because if they go, oh,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: I captured all your amber and I can make it
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: so I only have one creature, you have to take it, yeah, right,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Or they have two creatures and they put three amber
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: on each because of crapture, you have to take one
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: of them. So there is now it's in trench. So
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: you kind of have an idea of what's going on.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: But the fact that your opponent is functionally getting the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: choice of what options you're going to have in front
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: of you makes this one less less attractive to me.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Than the other steel creature cards.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I put it as a three. I think it
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: like it is something that your opponent has to deal
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: with unless they can abuse it right, But it's not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: super hard to deal with a two power. It's poison,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: so it will kill whatever it's whatever is dealing with
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: if it's very fun, if it's good fun, it will
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: kill whatever it fights. I feel like I'm gonna end
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: up using this to fight and kill something because it
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: has poison. I had three, so three. I actually have
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: a hard time knowing where I want to score this
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: card because I'm afraid of clever opponents.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: I just think that there's too many creatures in this
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: set in order to be able to If yes, you
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: can go ahead and see the one time, but I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: consider that a Christmas tree Land. I don't see you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: going ahead and putting all the amber on one and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: then getting rid.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Of everything else.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: You also, if you're close that you only have one
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: or two creatures out, or they only have one or
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: two creatures out, you have a choice not to entrench it.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: So in this set they can exhaust the sky. But
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: there you go.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: I this car it's Christmas tree Land. They need to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: have the exhaust the creature and not play anyone else
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: and the capture Like, yes.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Dude, I understand, but these aren't decisions I'm making. I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: don't want to provide my opponent with the ability to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: find a Christmas tree. This just carries too much liability for.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Me because you don't want to take it in the forest.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I I, yeah, right, I don't want to put a
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: beer like the fact that it can occur, the fact
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: has the opportunity. Yeah, I just I just.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: See this creature as having too much opportunity for downside
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: for me to like. It doesn't mean it's not going
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: to be good and against other sets and stuff. There
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: will be places where this card is going to be amazing.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: It's like the stupid pie piper right that I does card.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: It's too way easy to abuse that right, right, And most.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Of the time it means nothing and you can almost
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: safely play it because they don't even have more creatures
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: than you. So it's whatever. But there's just that chance.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: So the fact that it ends up in the discard,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: this is in a similar boat for me.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: So I have a hard time saying where it should be.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't have a feeling for this card
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: I will say that having it yesterday again, there were
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: opponents that were worried about it and had to play
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: around it.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: It fell as which status.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean there is that other side, like
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: if they can't deal with it and you just get
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: to be taken their best creatures. It's also a good card, yep. Yeah,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: it's this card might actually be stronger in sealed than
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: So Pied Viper is a two. Now, interestingly, I put
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: the my score at one. Does Piper have enhancements on it? No?
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think the one that might be a
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: zero that card is yeah, it's it's real bad, all right,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? We leave a three? Were changing it?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Sheep's got me all like, I got my anxieties up
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: now I know Pete's got I had it. I had
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: it as a four with hearing you guys that downgraded
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: it to a three. I think that a three is appropriate.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: I three is fine. Can you get multiple copies of
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: this garbage? Probably it's uncommon. I mean, geez, just.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Think about like two of these that they can't answer
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: and then they can now never. I mean, they have
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: to have creature control to deal with them, because they're
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: just like they play a couple of creatures and you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: take them.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: They play a couple of creatures and you take them. Yeah,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like, like I said, my anxiety an
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: all time highest, so and I don't even I don't
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: want to play any cards. So I just passed that.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: This guy's reoccurability, I guess could make him super strong.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Right, you just he just keeps doing his thing in there.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Four ripple wasp scream decks open so far right, So yeah,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: you're definitely gonna get lots of wasp cream on you.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: One of them has a legacy island of misfit toys.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah about that? Okay, Well that's that is uh equo down.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: I guess we are only getting one house done. I
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: told you we're only going to get one house done.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: We only ever went well, there's no way we're ever
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: going to do two houses. You guys would do things
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: at my pace. We would be fine. All right? Is
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: there anything interesting to talk about? We talked about techno
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: eracaphobia before cats and how it is now a trash card.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: I think it was always a trash card, sir. I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: think it was fine in gr where you wanted to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: get haunted. Now it's garbage. Yeah, Amber Amber amb Trash
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: is back in set.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I downgraded that to two along with our projects.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I should do that too. I wasn't paying attention.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: Hut Talent Scout back still good if you like cards
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: with a lot of text on them. Bartering games is back,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: and so I was looking at Speaking of bartering games,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: so when I was first launched the feature yesterday where
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: you could basically generate my scores for all the decks,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I was actually watching the logs, which I normally don't do,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: and somebody was sitting there changing the my score for
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: bartering games between one and two, like back and forth,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: back and forth. I was like, I feel you, dude,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: this is the weirdest card. I don't know what to
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: do with this one. Yeah. I like that.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Midyear Festivals is also back. So that's two cards in
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: this house that clean all Amber off creatures functionally.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, So, like, who is rating the Sapper higher than
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: a one?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: Well, let's go back to Midyear Midyear you put as
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: a six strass and I still.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Have issues with this. We did that together. I still
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: disagree on that that. Yeah, okay, I disagree. I think
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: that card is still pretty good, often crazily good.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: Oh and there are is it a Is it a
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: card that I am searching out for that I want? No,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: it makes it a solid five.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Winning less games because that card is that card is
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: at worst board wipe with an amber pip and at
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: best cleared them off and you don't lose anything.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, choose nine creatures that I have to choose, so
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: if I have, I understand.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: And that's why I said at best it's clearing them
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: and not you. But most likely it's just a full
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: board clear with an amber.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Dump and choose nine creatures. Then what they do, then
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: you can't play it. But but there's plenty of times
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: you can't play a board wipe, but you still really
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: want it in your deck.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Well, and sometimes you just accept all your ambers going
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: away because when they have a ton of creatures and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: you can make more amber, you need the boardwipe like
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: your boardwipe. And what's his name all the time, the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: soaring creature that scraps all amber on creatures.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Mhmm, Yeah, I just don't like. I noticed that the
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: board wipes were consistently high, as were the key sheets.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Because they're both really strong.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're strong, but I think that they fall more
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: as fives and six is it just was an interesting
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: observation to be able to see. So I think Midyear
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: is fine as where it is, but it falls as
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: a five. It is not a chase card for me.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Reap the wild Wind is back. I like that. Yeah,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: this is a card we disagree on. I put it
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: as a four.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: I I dropped it all the way down to a
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: three just because I got that Drazz is fives.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: It has made this one together. It hasn't disagree.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: It has three print, it has three enhanced amber on
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: it and a print at amber that's hard to be
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: able to pass up with the actual play effect.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, No, what do you guys think of.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: Three sheets to the wind?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: There's three sheets to the garbage file. Well, a little coruption.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: It's as as far as I'm served, it's as good
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: as the Purge random card from their hand.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: So what's the card that does that that we just
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: had on that one? No, No, that's that's discard the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: Purge one, which is clipped wings clips. It's functioning as
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: good as that half a clipped wings.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Which is better. Yeah, yeah, draw cards, but they're getting
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: rid of three cards, so they're not drawing. It is
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: a functional you're you're you're dropping them to five.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: You're dropping to five. They're losing one and this and
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: and it is.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: If they're hand crafting, it is disruptive. It is. It
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: is fine. It's just it's to me, it's just the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: purge part of clipped wings. And clipped wings is a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: five because it can purge.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: Or it can deal with the archives archive problem. So
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: it's a very good, very very good card with an
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: amber pip. Where this is this is a lot of
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: words that in a lot of ways is just pert
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: random from their hands, especially in sealed but you know,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: in serious handcrafting, this thing has more disruption value, but
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: not a lot of love for that card. Yeah, and
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: and again this is one of those cards even because
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: of the because it does actually bring three cards into
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: their hand and then disperses them. It can reckless, which
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: is make their hand better. It can do that as well.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Ye man, the same thing that happened as sheep just
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: happened to me. My score is not gone. It's okay,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm afraid to click a refresh buttons all. Why what
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: it's probably I'm knocked out again.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: It's not all of them, but like a lot of
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: them went away again. Yeah, like everything after Wasp Wasp Cream. Yeah. Well,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: well I'll just because Jazz is in the back clicking
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: on things, I went Claude's the one doing it. I
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: did today. I did finally successfully complete my visa for Vietnam. Vietnam.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I had to turn on a Vietnam VPN to make
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: it work, but I got it done fair enough. Other
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: than that, no, I don't think there's any new fun news.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dracodian Measures pre release release event is coming.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: I think we covered that last week kind of not really,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: we actually didn't cover that at all, but we talked
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: about Portland's happening this weekend. Yet you're going, right, I'm yeah,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: jumping on playing tomorrow Mamnon and Ill Bloody Maria.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: Are there any of the side events you want to
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: play in? Obviously you'll stick to whichever major as long.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: As you can. But yeah, if you're ex in two.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: Right when a side event is starting on date two
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: or day one, are you, I mean, are.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: You interested in Sealed Adaptive? Uh? Do it? I'll play
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a little more interested in quick Forage than sealed adapted.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Are you bringing a deck for quick Forge? I did
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: grab one, Okay, well that's something. And then if you scrub,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: are you drafting on? I think I'm going to try it.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not bullish that I'm going to love it because
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: it is a constructed format, but I am going to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: try it.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I actually think I would like the drafting aspect more
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: than the actually playing with the drafted decks. But like,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: I don't mind the theory craft part of draft to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: some extent, but then the actual excitement of playing with
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: them and then realizing my theory craft wasn't good enough.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: It's not really theory craft when you're hate drafting all
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: the time cheap, so.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's a wookie thing. I wouldn't hate draft.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: I would. I definitely hate draft. You will both hate
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: draft a bit. I know you well enough. No, you're
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: a hate drafter. You don't know hi draft. I'm not
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: talking about you.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: I have played enough board games with Sheep I know
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: what he will draft against.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: I will drop you when everybody else is letting you
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: get to the winning point.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Just like you do to me. Or it's like whatever
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: poss nobody's got to do something about him. Yeah. Typically, Yeah,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: to the left doing whatever she wants and just throwing
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: all the cards to him. Then we're just weeks away
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: from Saint Louis, which here was my party house.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Here's my question about Saint Louis. Yeah, do you guys
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: with Draconia Measures releasing on Yeah? Do you think that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: we're going to see an update by Friday in the
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: TRG so that TRG is.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: It's legal two weeks after release date?
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Right? Or two weeks after after the TRG is updated updated.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: That's why I'm asking if upated on Friday, because if
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: it's updated on Friday, then we are two weeks out
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: from UH Saint Louis and Jerconia Measures can be played.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it'll be in the tr Well,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: maybe they put it in the TRG so it becomes
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: legal for play on the twenty nine.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: Here's a better question, doesn't matter.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that a new set plays a lot,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: like we know that Sealed will be there, But I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: think a new set actually puts some different pressure points.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, you cannot think so, but I doesn't throwning
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: even in the slightest. I haven't. I haven't seen so.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: Like typically what you'll see from a set is if
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: it's got rush, you might see some people try their
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: rush decks from that, but I haven't seen hard enough
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: recurring enough rush coming out of damn. Like it's definitely
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: got some ready and use from hand stuff that is
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: pretty good, but it doesn't have a lot of way
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: to like do that turn after turn after turn, like
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: it doesn't want right which and then is after that
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: just trying to use its board to hold the game
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: to close versus g R and and the the robedar
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: consistency with bean stocks and riots or mars and it's
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: Shenanigan bouncing right where it just can push Amber again
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: and again and again.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: I haven't. I have not seen that.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: And even even the really good Amber Sky stuff is
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: just like reoccurring a couple of really good cards with
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: house pips again and again and again. There are archive
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: a replay like that stuff. I haven't seen that existing,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: But I'm my exposure to d M is low, but
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: the number of house pips is really low in the set,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: so a lot less of that occurs the even in
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: even though it has uh it even though it has
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: geystoids like you're getting cards back from your discard is
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: like my mat right, Like it doesn't have anything else
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: that I've seen.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, So it doesn't have a ton of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: power recursion.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I maybe somebody opens a good
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: enough Equaedown Shadows Combo to do it, or not equa
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: Down Shadows, uh, Skyborn Shadows Combo to feel like they
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: can play it, because those two have can potentially have
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: just absolutely dominating amber control.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, but we've never we've never.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: Actually, it's been a long time since you've seen a
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: deal centric deck.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Get to the top. Yeah, it's uh, because.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: They're often losing to decks that have board presidents that say,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: I can just make the amber again, and I have
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: someone on an amber control in these creatures. So you're
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: not forging anyways, even though you stole a bunch of
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: my amber.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Right, So I'm not sure that that's enough. Yeah. My
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: assumption is you are going to see DMB available in
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: in Portland. I just I don't think it's gonna matter.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: No, it's not legal for Portland. It's not legal for no,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: it's they are playing it for sealed, but it is
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: not legal and arn.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: And that's why the RG has to be updated by Friday.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: But I think with the do they put VM twenty
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: six in the new PRG not a clue, I gotta
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: go check. I don't know. So right, you're asking if
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to just bring your like crack will get
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: your sealed decks and pull it through.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the legal sets, the following sets are tournament legal
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: for official organized play. Won't Master twenty six, so that
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: isn't But they didn't.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: But they didn't add but donkey measures isn't. They didn't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: add DM though. No, it's not released yet. It's not released,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: and that's why it was of course.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: EI there's a V twenty six really but right, but
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: VM twenty six is all reprint cards, so it's a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: little less.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Other thing and it's already built in hard to get
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: in a way or like very limited release. So it's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: not like so you you pull a Bangers sealed that
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: complained about.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: The release of VM twenty six, that you'll complain about
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: not being able to play it at a vault.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah you can buy. So where there's the
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: potential you go to a vault or not have had
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: I do think that's wild that you pull it. So
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: you just pull us something absolutely exquisite in your seal
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I want to take this over an ARCon.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: You can't do that, not that weekend. You'll have to
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: come to Saint Louis. Probably even if what is what
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: is the cut Oh yeah, because he said cut offs
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: two weeks and it's this weekend. Isn't there something in
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: the TRG that just says tournament organizers can change this now,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: any changes this document master rule book will take that's
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: just implied. But but any change because they did they
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: did make TV illegal at Spain. Oh yeah, you know what?
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: And I think that was so, but give the ability
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: to do it?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: So under the tournament legality In the TRG, it says
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: any changes to this document or the Keyboard Master rule
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: Book will take effect fourteen days after the release date
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: of the document, unless otherwise stated by the relevant document.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Make a legitimate just be like, yep, we're gonna make
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: DM legal and now it's legal. Mm hmm.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: It just it's interesting with the release date. That's why
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm curious. Do I think it's going to
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: have a major impact? No, but I do think that
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: some people would play it and have some fun and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: it will make you think in a different manner.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's incredibly optimistic, which just follow suit for you.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: So I don't think PV or G are going to care,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: got it. I think they're gonna be like, oh, that's cute. Anyways,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: I won do you anything to stop me? Oh hey, look,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: all your creatures did reap because they're exhausted. I didn't
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: need to play creatures. So I still I'm just gonna
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: continue my crazy Myers loop. If that's cool. Okay, we'll see.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: But I think that's all good for tonight. Next week
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: will be a little bit of Portland talk and uh,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: let's see, we got guys straight next week, So what
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: I said, We will see you all next week. Happy
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: forging everyone, May the Forge be with you.