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Trump's "last chance" for Iran and updates on the budget and reconciliation · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: I want to open up with Senator James Langford from Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Langford, I was talking yesterday with a couple of
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  Speaker 1: defense minded people and they say the budget is going
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  Speaker 1: to be big. It's going to go through reconciliation. They're
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  Speaker 1: not sure how much, but the President asked for a
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  Speaker 1: trillion and a half dollars. You're on the budget committee.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's serving in that way.
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  Speaker 3: We need to be able to put whatever we need
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  Speaker 3: on national defense. National events is one of those areas
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  Speaker 3: that we have to look at. Okay, I understand what
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  Speaker 3: we can afford. We also understand what we need to
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  Speaker 3: be able to make sure that we can secure the nation.
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  Speaker 3: So we're waiting to be able to get some of
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  Speaker 3: the details behind that large of a request.
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  Speaker 2: Have to figure out what is it?
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  Speaker 3: For instance, drone warfare was not a thing we were
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  Speaker 3: talking about four years ago. It is all we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about right now. So we've got to look at what
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  Speaker 3: defense systems we're doing. We got to keep doing. What
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  Speaker 3: are we not doing we need to do and to
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  Speaker 3: be able to figure out how to be able to
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  Speaker 3: make sure we continue to secure the.
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  Speaker 1: Nation now, Senator, what I listened to yesterday was Aaron
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  Speaker 1: McLain's School of war. He was talking to a former
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  Speaker 1: staff Director of Armed Services, John McCain's long time after
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  Speaker 1: Chris Basard I believe his name is, And the barracouta
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  Speaker 1: missle is being produced by Andre privately and then sold
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  Speaker 1: to the Pentagon and trenches of a thousand. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the way it's been done forever. Do you think contracting
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  Speaker 1: is changing in real time to make budgeting more.
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  Speaker 2: Realistic, contracting better, change on it.
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  Speaker 3: All of us know the five thousand dollars toilet stories
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  Speaker 3: and everything else from past days dealing with a DoD authorizations, appropriations.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to be a lot faster at this, especially
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  Speaker 3: in drone warfare. What we're seeing in Ukraine right now
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  Speaker 3: is the nature of warfare and how they're fighting and
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  Speaker 3: defending changes every three weeks. That is not a arbitrary number.
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  Speaker 3: That's the real number about how things are changing. We're
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  Speaker 3: not set up to do any kind of appropriations like
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  Speaker 3: that at all. And so the other thing is defense
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  Speaker 3: has typically gone to a big company McDonald, Douglas, Boeing
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  Speaker 3: is somebody and said, hey, can you build this for me,
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  Speaker 3: and they'll say yes, give us seven years and we'll
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  Speaker 3: work on and develop it. It's got to flip and
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  Speaker 3: go to smaller companies and to say we have developed
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  Speaker 3: this and tested this, this looks like it meets your need,
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  Speaker 3: and so it can move much faster in our appropriations
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  Speaker 3: rather than waiting for somebody to invent it, actually getting
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  Speaker 3: someone to invent it and then try to sell it.
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  Speaker 2: That's how the process works in the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: business world.
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  Speaker 1: Senator, I want to switch over to last time I
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  Speaker 1: talked to you. You were getting dirty licks from TSA
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  Speaker 1: agents as you went through Oklahoma City Airport, not dirty lucks.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't being paid. You're getting paid again. Is there
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  Speaker 1: any way to avoid this circus? You've been doing this
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  Speaker 1: a long time and it's just always a circus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a circus every time, and it's dumb every
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  Speaker 3: time charge of the Light Brigade. When you're in the minority,
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  Speaker 3: it's always think I will go cause a shutdown and
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  Speaker 3: will go win the fight. Every single time it's a
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  Speaker 3: lose for the American people, and it ends up being
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  Speaker 3: a foolish conversation at the end. Maggie Hassen and I.
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  Speaker 3: She's a sender from New Hampshire, you know, Maggie. She
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  Speaker 3: and I have formed a piece of legislation that ends
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  Speaker 3: government shutdowns forever. That says, if you get to a
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  Speaker 3: moment where we would have a shutdown, government workers are
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  Speaker 3: still paid, programs still goes at current level funding. But
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  Speaker 3: members of Congress and our staff can't travel. We're in
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  Speaker 3: sessions seven days a week. We can't change to a
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  Speaker 3: topic other than appropriations. We're basically stuck in the box
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  Speaker 3: until we actually solve the problems. So the pressure's on us,
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  Speaker 3: not on federal workers. Why should some tsa worker in
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City be punished because we didn't get our work done.
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  Speaker 3: We should be punished. And the most effective way to
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  Speaker 3: punish any kind of leader is take away their time.
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  Speaker 3: If you tell them all the things you had scheduled
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  Speaker 3: are not going to happen until you finish this. It
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  Speaker 3: puts the pressure where it should be to say, finish
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  Speaker 3: your work.
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  Speaker 2: On time and then you can move on to the
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  Speaker 2: other things.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to finish a senator in our
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  Speaker 1: four more minutes. Oil price is over one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: dollars a barrel. There could be an operation underway as
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  Speaker 1: we speak. We won't know about it till a combat
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  Speaker 1: operations they're resumed. Oklahoma is at the center of Not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people know this, but it's Texas, Alaska
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  Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. When it comes to oil and natural gas?
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  Speaker 1: Are you blowing off? Are the permits there? Are the
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  Speaker 1: pipelines opening up? Are you maxing out of production down there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're actually maxing out of existing production, but not
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  Speaker 3: a new drilling because the folks that want to go
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  Speaker 3: drill and new well are thinking, Okay, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: when this is going to get resolved, and when it
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  Speaker 3: gets resolved, oil may drop to fifty sixty dollars a
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  Speaker 3: barrel the next day. They can't be halfway through a
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  Speaker 3: ten million dollar project and suddenly the bottom falls out
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  Speaker 3: on them. So the producers that are already producing they're
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  Speaker 3: doing well, and they're putting out as much as they can,
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  Speaker 3: but new productions on happening. You've got to have predictability
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  Speaker 3: to do that. So all the folks saying oil and
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  Speaker 3: gas company country loves this. Oil and gas country loves
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  Speaker 3: as much predictability as they possibly can, so they actually
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  Speaker 3: plan for big capital investments.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Nobody admired Susan Collins more than I do as
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  Speaker 1: a constituent, and we just disagree on the constitutionality of
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  Speaker 1: the War Powers Act. She and Senator's Cassidy and Murkowski
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  Speaker 1: voted along with Democrats to pass the War Power as Resolution.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it's flat unconstitutional. Is that discussion ever
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  Speaker 1: held within the conference?
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  Speaker 3: It is actually obviously the courts would be the one
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  Speaker 3: to actually have to be able to come and make
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  Speaker 3: that fight. But many of us, myself included, think that
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  Speaker 3: this is just not going to stand a constitutional muster
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  Speaker 3: on it. The real power that Congress has is the
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  Speaker 3: power of the purse. If we just don't fund something,
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  Speaker 3: it can't happen. That's the real control that's sitting out
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  Speaker 3: there anytime we get into this type of situation, and
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, there's already some conversation right now that the
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  Speaker 3: Pentagon doesn't have enough money to be able to keep
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  Speaker 3: this fight going forever.
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  Speaker 2: There are limits to the money that.
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  Speaker 3: They have, actually, and we've got to be able to
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  Speaker 3: make sure our stockpiles are consistent that if we actually
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  Speaker 3: get into another shooting war from another direction, we have
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  Speaker 3: enough to be able to defend the United States.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I think is coming at some point, is.
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  Speaker 1: That the very last question. We seize the third large
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  Speaker 1: tanker that was part of the Iranian ghost fleet yesterday
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in the Indian Ocean, do you know what happens
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  Speaker 1: to that oil and those tankers?
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  Speaker 3: They bring it all to Oklahoma and put in our pipeline.
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  Speaker 3: Actually you that's what they should do with it. I
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  Speaker 3: don't actually know other than probably that is help for
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  Speaker 3: an indefinite period of time. Obviously, these ships got to
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  Speaker 3: get back to its owner. But the cargo, i've not
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  Speaker 3: seen yet what they're actually doing with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're thanks and ships. I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: go back to their owners. But I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: we do with a million barrel oil ship. But kudos
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  Speaker 1: to our men and women in uniform center. I know
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  Speaker 1: you run on a schedule. Thank you for joining me
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  Speaker 1: this morning afternoon. I appreciate it very much.
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  Speaker 2: You bet, you bet. Glad it are good to see again.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, senator. Welcome back America. I like it when
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  Speaker 1: my radio friends do very well in the book to
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  Speaker 1: dem as Noah Rothman has with his brand new book,
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  Speaker 1: Blood in Progress. I can't turn on the TV. I
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  Speaker 1: can't listen to a podcast except I hear Noah. And
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  Speaker 1: that's good because i want everyone to read Blood in Progress.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm going to say Blood in Progress seven times
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  Speaker 1: because I'm still teaching Noa how to promote books. You
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  Speaker 1: just got to say blood and progress, Blood and progress, Noah.
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing that, Hugh. I'm trying to incorporate the
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  Speaker 4: lens rule. I just did it in a couple of
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  Speaker 4: interviews just now, and it is gratuitous, but.
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  Speaker 1: It's gratuitous and it works. Now, I want to give
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  Speaker 1: you an ultimate compliment. I read the book for blur
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  Speaker 1: purposes when it was in PDF. And when you read
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  Speaker 1: a book for blur purpose, you take no notes. You
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  Speaker 1: just read it, read it, read it, read it, and
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  Speaker 1: you find out what you can say about it. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm going through it chapter at a time, because we're
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  Speaker 1: going to spend a couple of weeks on this, and
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, I'm learning stuff I never knew.
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  Speaker 1: I never knew. I know about the Palmer rage. You
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  Speaker 1: learn about the Palmer raids in law school in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty when I'm in to law school, But I never
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  Speaker 1: knew about the prepared to stay marches. I never knew
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  Speaker 1: about Luigi Galliani. Tell people about these crazy people.
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  Speaker 5: Me neither.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a reason why some very recent scholarship, in
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  Speaker 4: the effort to excavate from the historical record there enduring relevance,
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  Speaker 4: they all described these people as forgotten, deservedly so. Luigiguiani
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  Speaker 4: was an Italian anarchist born into means in Italy, migrated
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  Speaker 4: to the United States, where he engaged in socialistic and
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  Speaker 4: anarchistic agitation. At the time, there was a real distinction
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  Speaker 4: between these two philosophies. They were all beholden to the
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  Speaker 4: proletarian revolution, of course, but there were little distinctions between them.
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  Speaker 4: You can kind of envision them arguing over should the
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  Speaker 4: state whi or away at the at the outset of
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  Speaker 4: the revolution, or would a dictatorship of the proletariat be necessary?
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  Speaker 4: In the interim, you know, kind of obscure and esoteric
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  Speaker 4: intellectual debates that the historical record has preserved and allows
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  Speaker 4: the democratic left to say, well, what do anarchists have
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  Speaker 4: to do with us? You know, we want a bigger
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  Speaker 4: role for the state, et cetera. But he was an anarchistic, violent,
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  Speaker 4: anarchistic agitator and instepted a movement of mostly Italian native
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  Speaker 4: Italians who migrated to the United States and faced real persecution,
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  Speaker 4: including lynchings and persecution by the state. One expression of
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  Speaker 4: the hostility that that engendered was the Italian mafia. Another
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  Speaker 4: was the anarchist movement, and it executed a campaign of bombings,
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  Speaker 4: terroristic attacks, assassinations targeting American political figures, targeting the Catholic Church,
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  Speaker 4: targeting police stations and police in particular.
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  Speaker 5: Which is one of the through lines that this book police.
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  Speaker 1: I never knew that, I never knew St. Patrick's Cathedral
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  Speaker 1: got bombed. And you know, I didn't know about the
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  Speaker 1: Faery bombing, or that not the Fairy bombing, but the
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  Speaker 1: Fairy Exchange saloon bombing. You've got the details you dug
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  Speaker 1: in here, buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Well thanks, I'm actually kind of heartened by that because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of these stories were new to me, but
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure the extent to which, you know, people
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  Speaker 4: have maybe been familiar with this history. But one of
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  Speaker 4: the things I argue, and I'm promoting this book, is
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  Speaker 4: that this is not necessarily an obscure history, but it
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  Speaker 4: is a suppressed history. Yeah, the degree to which those
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  Speaker 4: there's a degree to which those who don't want you
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  Speaker 4: to draw the through line don't want you to see
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  Speaker 4: the predictive and indeed prescriptive elements associated with waves of
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  Speaker 4: left wing violence as we're experiencing now, as we experienced
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  Speaker 4: in the eighties and seventies, as we experienced in the
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  Speaker 4: twenties and tens. They don't want you to see the
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  Speaker 4: leading indicators that are indicative of those kind of movements
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  Speaker 4: that are violent and potentially mass violent, as the anarchistic
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  Speaker 4: wave was. And we're more fortunate as again, I mean
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  Speaker 4: we talked about this yesterday. We'd be seeing a lot
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  Speaker 4: more bombings if nine to eleven had never happened, because
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  Speaker 4: the bomb was the instrument of the left wing terrorist
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  Speaker 4: movement and just got hard to explosives after nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to remember my education and I knew
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  Speaker 1: the Wobblys were out there and that they were the
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  Speaker 1: most radical of the working groups, and the FLCIO came
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  Speaker 1: along kind of clean up their act. I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea that they are actually responsible for the Ludlow mask.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea that they have blood on their hands,
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  Speaker 1: that they're a blood and progress group. They're not just
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  Speaker 1: some quaint aspect of American history. They're killers.
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  Speaker 4: There's I mean, my education, which I thought was very good.
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  Speaker 4: I was educated in public schools, but I learned I
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  Speaker 4: study Latin in high school, in public school too, so
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have a substandard education. And yet even up
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  Speaker 4: to an including graduate school, all the way through my
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  Speaker 4: career in education, the only thing that happened in between
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  Speaker 4: the Haymarket riot of eighteen eighty six, in which, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, police.
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  Speaker 5: Were attacked with bombs. That's also memory hold.
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  Speaker 4: But the only thing that happened between eighteen eighty six
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  Speaker 4: Haymarket riots and the Palmerrades of nineteen nineteen and nineteen
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  Speaker 4: twenty was that the United States descended into a reactionary
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  Speaker 4: fervor against immigrants and nothing else. And it's a potted
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  Speaker 4: history that is absolute nonsense. The American people had absolutely
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  Speaker 4: every reason to fear labor activism.
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  Speaker 5: It was violent.
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  Speaker 4: It attacked non union shops. It blew up the La Times.
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  Speaker 6: It did.
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  Speaker 4: It was tried to assassinate Palmer. It almost blew up
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  Speaker 4: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It was right next door to Palmer
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  Speaker 4: when his house was bombed, which, by the way, also people.
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  Speaker 5: Don't even know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that nineteen twenties period is very forgotten and is
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  Speaker 4: forgotten as the Marxian guerilla movements of the sixties and seventies,
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  Speaker 4: the Bronx.
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  Speaker 1: Borough Hall, the University of Chicago University Club. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is all SDS stuff we know from the sixties
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  Speaker 1: and the seventies.
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  Speaker 5: The poisoning, Yeah, the Great Poisoning campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, it's all repeating.
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  Speaker 4: It was almost the mass decapitation of the entire the
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  Speaker 4: entire social structure of government and political and commercial officials
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  Speaker 4: and religious officials in Chicago would have been the worst
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  Speaker 4: mass murder in American history even today, had it succeeded.
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  Speaker 1: First time I've ever read about it in Blood in Progress.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the ending paragraph from chapter two. The federdation of
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  Speaker 1: violence as a remedy to the abuses of the state
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  Speaker 1: in it, what he's in commercial and industrial life, and
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  Speaker 1: even a general sense of on we is common among
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  Speaker 1: radicals and radical organizations. These rationalizations for violence are commonplace
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  Speaker 1: among the violent left, both then and now. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the through line that you're trying to get. Fetidization
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  Speaker 1: of violence, the Antifa riots, the chase everything, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a perversion.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it is the revivification of the Marxian narrative, right.
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  Speaker 4: It's the myth for those who are attracted to violent
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  Speaker 4: revolutionary Marxist theories and they have to be violent, is
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  Speaker 4: that one episode of galvanizing bloodshed will create a mass
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  Speaker 4: movement in which those who are cowed and subservient and submissive,
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  Speaker 4: precisely of those ladies outside the Mamdani trial the other day,
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  Speaker 4: we're saying, we're such a submissive population, why don't we
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  Speaker 4: rise up in revolution?
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  Speaker 5: And what would make us rise.
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  Speaker 4: Up in revolution? And act of murderous violence? That is
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  Speaker 4: the delusion to which there behold. It's the same delusion
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  Speaker 4: that the Guyanas subscribed to, same delusion that Bernardine Doran
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  Speaker 4: and Bill Air subscribed to, and it's the same delusion
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  Speaker 4: that we see today that's what's fueling this movement of biopticals.
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  Speaker 1: What broke it in the twenties, What stopped the fever,
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  Speaker 1: I'm now curious about what stopped the fever in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixties and seventies at the end of the Vietnam War,
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  Speaker 1: Nixon stopped that. The kids went home because they weren't
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  Speaker 1: going to get drafted. What happened in the twenties, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't actually positive theory on that. The scholarship leads
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  Speaker 4: me to believe that the movement the underground activists who
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  Speaker 4: were engaged in this violent campaign of terrorism, and they
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  Speaker 4: were few. Again, these are not mass movements. It was
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  Speaker 4: part of the delusion. They've perceived themselves to be representative
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  Speaker 4: of a great, massive people, and they are representative of
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  Speaker 4: a very small fringe of deluded people. But they were
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  Speaker 4: subsequently broken up by law enforcement. Those that were broken
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  Speaker 4: up by law enforcement were under such pressure by law
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  Speaker 4: enforcement that they self deported, including Mario Buddha, who is
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  Speaker 4: probably the executor of the nineteen twenty bombing of of
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  Speaker 4: Wall Street, which is again still one of the FBI's
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  Speaker 4: oldest cold cases. They've never actually established who did that.
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  Speaker 4: It was closed down during world War two, but it's
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  Speaker 4: still unsolved. But a lot of them just deported themselves,
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  Speaker 4: including Luigi Guiani, who died of a heart attack in
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  Speaker 4: nineteen thirty one after being arrested by the Italian the
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  Speaker 4: Mussolini government and then pardoned briefly. But law enforcement breaks
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  Speaker 4: this stuff up. The enforcement of existing statute breaks this stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Up, which is one of my recommendations of the close
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  Speaker 5: of this book. We have the tools that are disposal.
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  Speaker 1: We just need no no. I asked you this yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: If you can say another segment, please do. Don't feel
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  Speaker 1: any obligation. You're on a book tour and so if
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  Speaker 1: you've got some else lined up, don't. But if you
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  Speaker 1: want to come back and talk about Blood and Progress,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the French Revolution with you,
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  Speaker 1: because of course, why not. Stay tuned, America. Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Noah Rothman has stuck around with me.
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  Speaker 1: His brand new book is this Blood and Progress. I
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  Speaker 1: adjacent or say crazy stuff. They guys know what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. Noah, I'm going to set you up and
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  Speaker 1: then let you run with this first day of law
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  Speaker 1: school substance. I always go through the brief history of
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  Speaker 1: nearly everything, and I always tell them there are two
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  Speaker 1: kinds of revolution. They're revolution against power and revolutions for power.
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  Speaker 1: The American Revolution was a revolution against power in order
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  Speaker 1: to establish negative rights so that the governments couldn't screw
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  Speaker 1: with individual liberties. And there are revolutions for power. The bullshets,
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  Speaker 1: of course. But the French Revolution is the mother of
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: law revolution, and you end up with Robespierre and after
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  Speaker 1: it fails to end up with Napoleon. Do you agree
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  Speaker 1: with my grand sweep of history assessment. Revolutions go one
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  Speaker 1: of two ways, against power or for power. Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was Irvin Crystal who said that the
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  Speaker 4: American Revolution was distinct from the revolutionary tradition after the
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  Speaker 4: French Revolution.
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  Speaker 5: Because it sought to codify.
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  Speaker 4: That which was already established, and it took into account
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  Speaker 4: human nature, and it didn't seek to perfect that nature. Rather,
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  Speaker 4: it comprehended that man was a failed fallen creature, and
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  Speaker 4: that its foibles needed to be channeled and directed and
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  Speaker 4: harnessed rather than.
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  Speaker 5: Re engineered from the top.
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  Speaker 4: Down, which was not the French tradition and subsequently not
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  Speaker 4: the Russian tradition or any other revolution that followed it,
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  Speaker 4: because so many of them followed the Russian.
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  Speaker 1: Or the Maoist So, yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 5: Framing with malis Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, get them the brief history of what happened in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteenth century to the twentieth century, because the Bullshees
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  Speaker 1: really did set us up for where we are now.
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  Speaker 2: They did.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I mean it's crankish on my part, but I
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: do see the roots of so many problems in the
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  Speaker 4: Bolshevik Pusch of nineteen seventeen. But there is a digression
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  Speaker 4: in this book. After introducing you to Luigi Gayani, we
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  Speaker 4: go all the way back to the French Revolution, and
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  Speaker 4: it seems like a digression sets up the mental habits
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  Speaker 4: to which the violent revolutionary left in the United States
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  Speaker 4: are increasingly or always have been rather unsusceptible to. So
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: the French revolutionary terror was a project designed to beget
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  Speaker 4: the republic of virtue. That was Robespierre's belief and idea,
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  Speaker 4: and as the terror progressed and it didn't defend from
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  Speaker 4: revolutionary French sensibilities so much, even though it was very violent,
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  Speaker 4: very bloody, but it was nevertheless thought to be an
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  Speaker 4: effort to bring low a caste that had benefited unduly
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  Speaker 4: from dispensations from society at the expense of the people.
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  Speaker 5: This was the bourgeoisie.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: This is you know, typically we get this from communist intellectuals,
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  Speaker 4: but that word has its roots in the French Revolution,
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  Speaker 4: and it increasingly became a class based terror.
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  Speaker 5: It was designed to find.
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  Speaker 4: People who fitted avatars of their tribe, people who fitted
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  Speaker 4: within a framework that re used their individuality, indeed ignored
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  Speaker 4: their individuality and saw them merely as representatives of a
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  Speaker 4: particular tribe or caste. And the Bolsheviks were very infatuated
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  Speaker 4: with the French Revolution, but initially they were pretty self
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  Speaker 4: conscious about the terror. When they were confronted with reporters
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  Speaker 4: or people who were sympathetic to them, but were very
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  Speaker 4: apprehensive about the prospect of a terror. No, no, no, no no,
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  Speaker 4: We're never going to have to resort to that sort
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  Speaker 4: of situation, even though quite privately they were contemplating it,
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  Speaker 4: right and then, as I quote Paul Johnson in his
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  Speaker 4: Epic and Indispensable Modern Times, the Bolshevik terror became very short,
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  Speaker 4: very quickly, a class based terror, and the classes were
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  Speaker 4: much more numerous than the French. The prostitutes, the work shirkers,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the bagmen, the speculators, the hoarders, all of whom might
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  Speaker 4: vaguely be described as criminal. Following quickly, however, became entire
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  Speaker 4: occupational groups, and the core again, individuals just.
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  Speaker 2: Reduced, yes, right, decisely.
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  Speaker 4: Just when you reduce individuals, this is a big theme
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  Speaker 4: throughout the book. When you reduce individuals to flatten them
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  Speaker 4: out so that they become avatars, caricatures, even of an
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  Speaker 4: imagined class or tribe, it really greases the skids for
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  Speaker 4: inhuman barbaric displays of violence.
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  Speaker 1: That is what then culminates in the last century. In
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Mao and any revisionism we can get about, Mao is
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a good thing. She is just Mao if lacking charisma.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: He's a colder, relentless killer, and cruel guy. Do you
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  Speaker 1: agree with me? I mean, the weaker genocide was a
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  Speaker 1: real thing. Jimmy Lai is dying in jail right now.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: These people are not reformers. They're killers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not just that. I mean, that's the worst
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: of it, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: But there's also the re sovietization of its economy, the reversal,
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  Speaker 4: deliberate reversal of the market oriented reforms that we're engaged in.
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  Speaker 5: But Dang and Baikhu's in too, and the.
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  Speaker 4: Design being to re establish control over society, make it
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  Speaker 4: restore the totalitarian aspect of China.
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  Speaker 5: That had it slept off it.
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  Speaker 4: It kept its authoritarianism, but it hadn't it softened the
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  Speaker 4: totalitarian element.
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  Speaker 1: Of it that a little too much freedom, very much
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  Speaker 7: One around.
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  Speaker 8: It's a limited deal, just her as long as as well.
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  Speaker 2: We would have to open the strait that would open immediately.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna give this one shot.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna know her.
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  Speaker 8: You never say, oh, the midterms, I'm gonna hurry, I'm
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  Speaker 8: gonna know hurry.
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  Speaker 1: I just I deally. I'd like to see a few
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  Speaker 1: people guild as opposed to a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We could do it either way, but I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: see if you'll be able to go.
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  Speaker 8: I just wonder whether or not they have the good
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: of the people, because some of the things they're doing
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: to me means they.
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  Speaker 9: Don't have the good of the people, and they have
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  Speaker 9: to have the good of the people.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of anger now in Iran because people
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  Speaker 8: are living so badly.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of foemen that we haven't seen before
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  Speaker 2: so much, and.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That is Donald Trumps on his way to the coach
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  Speaker 1: Guard Academy to give a commencement address today. I'm joined
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: up by Sarah C. Bedford of the Washington Examiner. Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the President's going to do with Iran?
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  Speaker 10: Gosh? I think that he may be weighing more additional
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: military strikes. I mean, the reporting is that he was
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: potentially within hours of striking Iran again before the three
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: Arab states, including Saudi Arabian Cutter, reached out and implored
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: him not to do so. But this is kind of
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: the type of language that you see Trump use, like, oh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm in no hurry, I'm in no rush
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  Speaker 10: before he.
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  Speaker 11: Does a strike.
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  Speaker 10: And we've talked about before the strategic ambiguity that Donald
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: Trump likes to maintain. He often sounds noncommittal and disinterested
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: right before he does something, but there's no way to
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: really tell because he really tries to play his cards
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: so close to the best when it comes to whether
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: he will or won't do a strike, and especially when
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: he's trying to use that uncertainty as leverage and negotiations
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: like he is right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not be in the least bit surprised
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  Speaker 1: if later tonight we hear as he gave his speech
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: at the Ghost Guard Academy, troops or bombers were falling
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on the Shade of Horror moves coastline along Iran. Now
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: let's go to the budget and what's going on in Congress.
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  Speaker 1: I began with James Lankford, I'll have sellymore capitol on later.
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  Speaker 1: I also be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn. Where are
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: we on the budget and reconciliation? Sarah C.
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  Speaker 10: Bedford Republicans are lined up now over the part of
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: the reconciliation package that has to do with ice and
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: funding for immigration enforcement, and that has advanced out of
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: the Senate Budget Committee, so that's on track. But where
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: they've really hit a snag is with funding for Secret Service,
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: a big portion of which would be used on security
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  Speaker 10: enhancements for the White House Ballroom. The Senate Parliamentarian has said,
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: as written that can't pass in the package, and so
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: at the very least the drafters of the legislation would
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: have to go back and structure that in a way
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: that could pass through the parliamentary and scrutiny here. But
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  Speaker 10: the bigger problem is that there's cold feet among some
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  Speaker 10: Republicans about backing the ballroom, just the idea of ballroom
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  Speaker 10: funding at all, regardless of how it's written to survive
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  Speaker 10: the procedural hurdles, and so the White House is working
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  Speaker 10: with Senators to try to keep that on track. That's
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: going to be the controversial part of this reconciliation build though,
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: and if they just had kept it to a truly
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: skinny quote unquote skinny reconciliation package like what was first envisioned,
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  Speaker 10: it would probably already be over the finish line by
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  Speaker 10: now and on track to make Donald Trump's June first deadline.
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  Speaker 10: The ballroom funding puts that in some doubt.
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  Speaker 12: Though.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm something of a stickler for detail, and it's
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  Speaker 1: my understanding that the so called ballroom funding is for
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  Speaker 1: below ballroom funding. That's the stuff in the basement. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: back when I was in the White House eighty five
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  Speaker 1: eighty six, there were a lot of basements under the
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  Speaker 1: White Saw. There were elevators down many, many levels. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I assume they're doing the same thing again, right, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: assume they're digging down deep. Were they trying to pay
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  Speaker 1: for that with federal money and then have the private
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  Speaker 1: funding pay for that which was above ground?
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  Speaker 10: Yes, that's exactly right. I mean, right now there's a
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: court in junction. I believe they're only allowed to do
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  Speaker 10: construction underground. Any of the cosmetic stuff above the ground,
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: that's on pause while.
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: The case is litigated.
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  Speaker 10: So the distinction is, like, the Secret Service money wouldn't
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  Speaker 10: fund stuff like a beautiful marble for the ballroom floor,
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  Speaker 10: the stuff that would be controversial, but it would involve
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: paying for security enhancements to protect the ballroom. And I
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: guess the critics argument against that would be, what you
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: wouldn't need to pay for security enhancements to the ballroom
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: if the ballroom project didn't exist in the first place.
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  Speaker 11: But it's also not just for the ballroom.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, it's a billion dollars and one estimate that
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  Speaker 10: I saw was maybe around a quarter of that would.
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  Speaker 2: Be spent on ballroom enhancements.
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  Speaker 10: But it's really for security provisions that would affect the
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  Speaker 10: entire White House complex. And you know, I interviewed White
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: House Legislative Affairs Director James Braid a few days ago,
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  Speaker 10: and he was saying, you know, look, you have people
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: trying to ram White House barricades with their car. I mean,
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: you have death threats against the president. And so it
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: would involve securing the entire White House complex, not just
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: the ballroom. And so you know the fact that the
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: ballroom's in there though, and it's polling so poorly with
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: the public, that's why it's controversial with Republicans.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're also going to put an infirmary down there,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and an infirmary can encompass a lot that can be
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: infirmary with a lot of guns in it and a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: lot of high tech weaponry. Let me switch over to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the appropriations process that follow Centator Collins will be my
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: guest tomorrow. Where do we see that right now?
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: I think there's some fears among the Republicans in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: White House that the days of just regular order appropriations
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  Speaker 10: are kind of over. The Democrats very clearly have no
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: incentive to help Republicans go through the regular appropriations process,
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: and there's no incentive for them to reach any sort
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: of bipartisan compromise on funding really anything, and almost all,
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: whether you're talking about Department of Agriculture or the Department
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: of Education, all sorts of things have been politicized under
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: the second Trump presidency that we're just never really considered
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: partisan before. So there are fears at the White House
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  Speaker 10: that potentially even the benign aspects of the regular appropriations
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: process could be difficult as we get closer to the
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  Speaker 10: end of the fiscal.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Year in terms of hearing structure. And when we get
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to Reconciliation two point zero, if the Parliamentarian is made
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  Speaker 1: happy and the Senate passes, that goes back to the House,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that'll pass. What about Reconciliation three point zero, which is
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: for defense. What are the prospects for that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: The leadership in both the House and the Senate and
• 28:12
  Speaker 10: the White House are confident right now, or at least
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: they're sounding a confident note that something will get done now.
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: Whether from the perspective of leadership, that's just a negotiation
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: tactic to get reluctant hardliners on board with the current
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: piece of reconciliation and legislation that didn't have all of
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: the conservative goodies that the hardliners wanted, that's unclear. There's
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: also some talk about potentially including what's been framed as
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: a down payment on the Save Act. There's a lot
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: of skepticism that any part of the Save Act could
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: survive the parliamentarian process, with potentially something to do with
• 28:46
  Speaker 10: advancing towards some kind of voter ID policies could be
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: in that. And then the White House has talked about
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: some sort of anti fraud provisions, funding for anti fraud
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: enforcement and things like that could make it into that reconciliation.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Well, that could get a bird bath. If you're raising
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: money by fraud enforcement, that gets past the bird bath.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Sarah ceed Bedford at The Washington Examiner, follower on x
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  Speaker 1: at Sarah C. Bedford and thank you Sarah follow me
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  Speaker 1: to the next segment of today's shoot Healed show.
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  Speaker 7: Doctor, I never get hired.
• 29:18
  Speaker 13: But what I like to do If I can save
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: war by waiting a couple of days, so I can
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: save people being killed by waiting a couple of days,
• 29:27
  Speaker 13: I think.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It's a great thing to do. The morning Gloria and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: in Grace America, President Trump minutes ago, arriving back from
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the Coast Guard Academy, if he can save lives by
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: waiting a couple of days, he wants to bet. You know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you can lose lives by waiting a couple of days.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Iran hasn't exactly been doing nothing during the ceasefire. To
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: discuss that in other issues, I'm joined by doctor Michael Lauren,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: former Israelian Bassador to the United States, founder of the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Israel Advocacy Project. Doctor ran Am, I right about that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: if you wait too long, you end up losing lives
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: or opposed to saving them.
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: Well, yeah, as you said, Iran is not sitting around
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: and twiddling his thumbs during this period.
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: It is rebuilding its missile capacity.
• 30:10
  Speaker 13: A lot of those ballistic missiles were buried by American
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: and is really bombing. They're digging these missiles out, the
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: launchers out. Lord knows what they're doing with their nuclear program.
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: Maybe somebody knows, but I'll imagine they're just not Again,
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: they're not sitting passively and they're plotting their next move.
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: And now they just came out and said that should
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: the United Stident Israel renew hostilities against Iran, they will
• 30:32
  Speaker 13: cut the Internet cables running beneath the strait of her
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: moves and cause perhaps an international crisis that way. So
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: again they're getting stronger, not getting weaker.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: They're pirates. And by the way, that kind of threat
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: tells you that they'll never be trustworthy. They'll never be
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: because once you make a threat like that, you'll always
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: make a threat like that. Before we go on further,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I got to play for you something from last night.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massive, on being defeated, said cut number four.
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: I would have come out sooner, but I had to
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: call my opponent and concede, and it took a while
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: to find ed Gal Ryan and tel Aviv.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: All right, now, Ambassador or I think that's just naked
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: leanni schamitic. Do you agree with me?
• 31:21
  Speaker 13: I was telling people in Israel about it today. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 13: was actually in Israeli News today and actually quoting him. Uh,
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: And people couldn't believe it. They couldn't believe it. The
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: response was, was he really in Tel Aviv? And he
• 31:32
  Speaker 13: was so outrageously anti Semitic they couldn't even understand it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: Of course it is, of course it is. And what's
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: what's the subtext there?
• 31:39
  Speaker 13: Is that that guy reigned, a candidate supported by President Trump,
• 31:43
  Speaker 13: is being controlled by the Israelis and it's it's blatantly
• 31:46
  Speaker 13: anti semitic.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Of course, all right, I just wanted people to hear it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I wanted to hear it from you, not me. I've
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: been saying it all day. Let's go back to the war.
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: It seems to me that the Iranians are doing the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Iranian thing, which is to always play for time, and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that at some point we just have to say no mos,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: no more time. Is that your agreement? Do you agree
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: with that? Or should we get let it play out
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a while?
• 32:09
  Speaker 13: Well, depends on how much oxygen you have on the
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: American western side. Okay, we are in a game of chicken.
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: It's not a military against military anymore. It's economy against
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: versus economy, and ideally the United States could maintain its
• 32:24
  Speaker 13: naval blockade through the straight from moves. It's costing the
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: Iranians hundreds of millions of dollars a day. Ultimately it
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: will cause cracks within the IRGC, within the military ultimately,
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: but that ultimately may take three, four or five months.
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: During that time, gas prices will continue to rise, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 13: general price of living will continue to rise. Shortage of
• 32:43
  Speaker 13: of of fuel, few sortage of fertilizer, even that will
• 32:51
  Speaker 13: cause food prices to rise. So it's that kind of
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: game of chicken. Does the president think that his administration
• 32:59
  Speaker 13: American economy generally have that type of wind that it
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: can wait out the Iranian regime?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, now the headline in the Times of Israel is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Trump says netnya who will quote do whatever I want?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And Iran after Paris said to hold tense call. That
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: tells me, after you know, a year of this since
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Operation Midnight Hammer, that we got the jets warming up
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: on the on the runway. Whenever Trump says he's out
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: at tense call and then yah, those two are thickets,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: thieves and getting ready to go. How do you read it?
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: I hope so, I hope that's the case, or you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: maybe missed out of it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: Feels that the President is going to this deal, has
• 33:37
  Speaker 13: reported in some sources in the Western Pass a deal
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: that would would basically end the war and open thirty
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: days of negotiation on outstanding issues like the nuclear issue,
• 33:47
  Speaker 13: and which of case, of course, the nuclear issue will
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: not be resolved, state of hurdles will not be resolved,
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: because that's what the audience do.
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: They get into negotiation and they will drag their feet.
• 33:55
  Speaker 13: They've been doing it for hundreds and hundreds of years,
• 33:58
  Speaker 13: not for the last you know, six months, So that's
• 34:01
  Speaker 13: what to do it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: I think that's what the Prime Minister is worried about.
• 34:04
  Speaker 13: I think we could get to a situation similar to
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: that which is well found itself in twenty fifteen after
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: the signing of the JCPOA in which we said, okay,
• 34:11
  Speaker 13: you know, you signed this deal, but we won't be
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: we won't be bound by this deal. We have to
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: retain our maneuverability, our ability to defend ourselves, which is
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: pretty much is what's happening in the North because the
• 34:24
  Speaker 13: President and the State Department have declared a forty five
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: day ceasefire in the North, but there's no ceasefire in
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: the North, and it's limited is maneuverability somewhat. We're not
• 34:33
  Speaker 13: really bombing into mat In Beiruta anymore, but there's full
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: French combat going up on North and we're we're having
• 34:40
  Speaker 13: soldiers wounded every single day.
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: A woman's soldier was seriously wounded today.
• 34:44
  Speaker 13: So you know, there's always going to be a certain
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: divergence of interest between our two countries.
• 34:50
  Speaker 11: As much as we are vastly and closely aligned.
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: Because the United States is far away a big country,
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: it was a small country. We're threatened with immediately on
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: our name, and at a certain point we have to say,
• 35:02
  Speaker 13: the President, please understand these are our fundamental and even
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: existential interests.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Now, I want to go back to Michael Laurren, historian,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Princeton historian, author of the most important book on Middle
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Eastern history, Wars in the Modern Times. In from nineteen
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: ninety one to nineteen to two thousand and three, the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: United States and its allies operated two no fly zones
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: in Iraq, one in northern Rock to protect the Kurage,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: one in southern Iraq to protect the Shia Muslims. We
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: started them too late, but we got them going. Could
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we operate do you think it's as a military matter
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: possible to operate a no shoot zone and no missiles,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: no firing zone for one hundred and fifty miles in
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: length along the strait and one hundred miles back and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: if they violate that, turn it into a no move zone.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: In other words, what you've done with southern Lebanon the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: allies of the United States and the United States ought
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to do to the coastal zone along the strait. What
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: do you think of that?
• 35:59
  Speaker 13: Now, I says can do whatever the heck it wants. Okay,
• 36:01
  Speaker 13: it has that ability, has the fire power. Talking about
• 36:05
  Speaker 13: a country with not two or three aircraft carriers, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: eleven aircraft carriers, and it has a massive amount of power.
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: It's the strongest military force in the world.
• 36:15
  Speaker 13: It can do that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: But if you're going to make a declare a no
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: fire zone like that, you have to back it up.
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: You have to back it up with true power.
• 36:23
  Speaker 13: And so it's just a matter as so much in
• 36:25
  Speaker 13: this war, it's a matter of staying, ability, endurance and
• 36:29
  Speaker 13: the sidatly will power to bring American force to bear
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: in the fullest possible way against Iran.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: All Right, but do we have a choice because they
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: want to establish the Horrormones tool Authority. They want to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: control an international water day waterway, which since time immemorial
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: has been open to everyone except pirates. In other words,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: they want to change the rule, the fundamental rules of
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the geopolitical order. We can't allow that to happen. Neither
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: can the Gulf States, neither can the world. Cannily.
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: No, of course you can't, but you're gonna have to
• 37:04
  Speaker 13: step up and enforce that. Listen, we don't want them
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: to have a nuclear weapon either. We don't want them
• 37:09
  Speaker 13: to have eight thousand ballistic missiles that can threaten all
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: of the countries in the Middle East and threaten us
• 37:15
  Speaker 13: with close to an existential danger.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: We don't want them to be supporting terror around the
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: Middle East.
• 37:22
  Speaker 13: You keep in mind, one of the ways they close
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: international waterways is not through missiles and not through mines,
• 37:27
  Speaker 13: but through pirates, through true pirates, the hoodies. So all
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: of these issues have to be resolved in this war
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: if we are to get to a vastly better place
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: than the Middle East. And I've talked often on this
• 37:39
  Speaker 13: program about the hinge of history, where if the initial
• 37:44
  Speaker 13: five goals of this war no nuclear program, no nuclear stockpile,
• 37:49
  Speaker 13: no ballistic missile program, no support for terror and reopening
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: the straits of her mules.
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: These are now emblazoned on my soul view. You achieve that,
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: then everything everything changes in the Middle East. You not
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: only get rid of the Iranian threat, you get peace.
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: Peace across the region packs American extending from the Mediterranean
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: to the shores of the Ganges.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: All right, ninety seconds, When is the election in Israel
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and who's going to win it?
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: Well, right now it's either set for late September or
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: late October. It's not quite sure.
• 38:19
  Speaker 13: Ultry Authox parties want it to be in September, gets
• 38:21
  Speaker 13: closer to the Jewish major holidays and they can mobilize
• 38:25
  Speaker 13: support much better. It's really material. It's a difference of
• 38:28
  Speaker 13: maybe two or three weeks. Who's going to win it
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: according to the polls today. Right today it's the anti
• 38:34
  Speaker 13: BB block. But in politics, as you know, between now
• 38:37
  Speaker 13: and September is an infinity amount of time.
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: Who knows much of it will depend. I want you
• 38:42
  Speaker 11: to know on the outcome of this war.
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: If Nettan now can go to the voters and stay Look,
• 38:48
  Speaker 13: I achieved all the strategic objectives that we set out
• 38:50
  Speaker 13: for ourselves.
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: He'll be in a much much reinforced position politically.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Michael Lauran, you've been in the cadessa. You've run before.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Are you running this time with anyone?
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: Nope, not running. But I you know something I've done.
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: The legislator thing.
• 39:06
  Speaker 13: You know, postal reform was not the thing that most
• 39:08
  Speaker 13: interesting in long and uh, that's what legislation is. It's
• 39:12
  Speaker 13: postal reform, and that that's what that's the most exciting.
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: Legislation goes downhill from there. I am about we have
• 39:19
  Speaker 13: to set about to rebuild Israel's farm relations and that
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: is going to be a huge, huge task. It's going
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: to be a storic tax and I'm going to put
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: all of my weight behind it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: The Israel Adgacy Group, the Israel Advocacy Group, that's what
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Dr Orin begun. That's what we support. I hope you
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: will as well. Thank you, Doctor Oran. I'll be right
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: back in America State. Welcome back to America on here, Hewett,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Please to welcome back to the show a friend of mine,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the President of the Utah State Senate, Jay Stewart Adams.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He has been on before because the American Legislative Exchange
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Council is a sponsor of our program. I go on
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the road with him, and usually Stuart Adams shows up
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to talk to me about why Utah has been number
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: one now for nineteen consecutive years in the Rich States
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Poor State trading. Senate President Adams, welcome back, Congratulations you're
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: number one again. Does it get boring?
• 40:13
  Speaker 14: Not at all. It's I'd fun to be with you
• 40:15
  Speaker 14: nineteen years ind I'll think about it for a minute.
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: The high school graduates in Utah have never known a
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: time in their entire life when Utah hasn't had the
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: best economic health.
• 40:27
  Speaker 14: Look pretty amazing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I want to run down the stats if I may.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Number one, best economic outlook for nineteen years running, Number
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: one state overall, third year in a row in the US.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: News and World Report.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Number one upward mobility in the Archbridge Institute. Number one
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: in protecting children's mental well being in the childhood and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: next number one in GDP growth according to kemse Gardner
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Policy Institute. Number one in crews increase in household income growth.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: That's from the Urban Institute. Number two, best state for teachers,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Number four your best state for education, and the lowest
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: electricity rates in the United States. How do you get
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: this all done?
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: Stewart Adams, well again, Art Laugher, Steve Moore, Jonathan Williams.
• 41:16
  Speaker 14: They predict the future and good economist. I think that
• 41:21
  Speaker 14: the rating of economists is how well they project the future.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: At predict the future, and we have seen that the policies,
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: the regulatory policies, and the tax policies that we put
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: in place actually produce what the prediction wants to predict the.
• 41:39
  Speaker 14: Best economic outlook.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: In addition to those numbers, we have cut taxes, income
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: tax again, again, again, again, again, ran out.
• 41:49
  Speaker 14: Of fingers and again six years in a row. In Utah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 14: Both our tax policy and our regulatory policy are what
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: have been able to allow us to accomplish this.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for a long time people said Utah does so
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: well because it's the LDS headquarters of the ELDS state.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: That's no longer true. I got a lot of friends
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: who are moving to Utah because they like the quality
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of life, they like the seasons, they like the education system,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: they like the public safety. Have you noticed that that
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the state's got a lot of inbound migration that people
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: who are not LDS.
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: Well people vote with their feet.
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: And in addition to all the things you just talked about,
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: we are the fastest growing for capita state in the nation.
• 42:34
  Speaker 14: So yes, we've had a great influx of people.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Demographically, I've changed, but we've maintained the same policies that
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: have actually allowed us not only to kept taxes, but
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: we've been able to increase We've doubled the spending on
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: teachers we now have I think we're the fifth highest
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: in the.
• 42:52
  Speaker 14: Nation starting teacher salaries in the entire nation.
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: Plus we've built infrastructure like the Northern state where building
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: our roads, our water system. When you can cut taxes
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: and build infrastructure pay for services that only happened by
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: having a strong economy.
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: And a lot of that is because of our regulatory policy.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Now I'll talk to you about public safety in the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: next segment, because I'm very interested in that, as are
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: most Americans. But I want to know about electricity. The
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: grid is under stress everywhere, but it's not in Utah.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: The grid is. I'm in Maine right now. The grid's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a big issue up in Maine every single year when
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it gets called. How have you kept the head of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the electricity demand in Utah?
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: Well again, energy, energy, energy, and we have for whatever
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: reason in America, we've stopped to building new energy production
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: and we have taken We could see it coming because
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: energy does drive our economy. We have the lowest electric
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: some of the lowest electric grads in the entire nation.
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: But we could see a need for the future, and
• 43:55
  Speaker 14: the future appeared.
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: To be.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: In the future. It is what the oil and gas industry,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the natural gas industry, well, we.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: Have a lot of oil, we have a lot of
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: natural gas, but we have nuclear energy and we just
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: permitted the first nuclear energy plant, the manufacturing plant and
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: Box Elder County, and we're looking at geothermal. We have
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: Fermile Energy in Saint George or the Cedar City area
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: that's doing geothermal energy.
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: But we think nuclear is a future.
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: So we're actually moving ahead with nuclear manufacturing and they
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: kind of take a workforce.
• 44:37
  Speaker 14: So we're working on all forms of energy.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: We want to be the energy capital of the world
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: because energy is going to be needed. We need We
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: know AI needs energy and energy productions are so important.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Is the new nuclear plant a small modular reactor or
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: is it one of the traditional bigs.
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: It's all kinds of new technology, but one of the
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: small nuclear is the cutting edge. But we're also seeing
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: a new nuclear reactor that's called a micro and that
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: microwet reactor can actually be manufactured in a plant like
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: you do a car put on the back of a
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: semi truck and dropped into place.
• 45:17
  Speaker 14: You can daisy chain them together, tie them together.
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: They may produce only thirty megawats of power, but you
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: put ten of them together and you get three hundred megawats.
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: That's almost the same as a small nuclear reactor.
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: And these new nuclear actors, they're burning the old spent
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: fuel rods, which we didn't know what to do with.
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: So the new technology solving again a waste problem along
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: with producing more energy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Now, I've been on the campus BYU. I gave a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: lecture at the Rubon Clark School a few years ago,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: been on the campus of Utah State to do a
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Utah PBS special with the Lake Neil Maxwell. I know
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you got great higher ed does that continue to expand
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: in Utah?
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: We have one of the fast is screwing populations because
• 46:01
  Speaker 8: we have a lot of natural increase, a lot our
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: birth rates one of the highest in the nations.
• 46:06
  Speaker 14: Because of that, we have a lot of kids, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 14: we have some of the best educational systems in the
• 46:11
  Speaker 14: United States.
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: A University of Utah has rivals mit as far as startups.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: A Utah State University has a lot of aeronomics and research.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: We actually founded last session fifty million dollars. Not a
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: lot of money, but it's seed money to be able
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: to go to the university to do more research at
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: BYU is a great university also, and between those universities
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: and the others, we have a very educated and talented workforce,
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: and workforce is going to drive the economy in addition
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: to energy.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Someday you'll get in the college playoffs. Ohio State can
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: beach you state Senate. President. Let me ask you, though,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: when how long have you will never happen?
• 46:55
  Speaker 14: If we get in the playoffs, we're going to beat oh.
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: I want you to know that.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: How long have you been in state? Said it? President?
• 47:02
  Speaker 14: Eight years?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And why is there a term limit on that? Can
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you keep going?
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: We don't have term limits in Utah. We'll see uh.
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: But again, Utah is great, and I'd like to take
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: credit for all the great things in Utah. But we
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: know Utah is great because of great people and we
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: have a great state.
• 47:21
  Speaker 14: We have great legislators. We have a really fabulous uh
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: business community.
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: They get back, they they're you know, they help Utah
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: maintain their number one status and it's it's a great
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: spot to live well.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Steward Adams, though, being the president you got to herd cats.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Doesn't it get old? Are you still enjoying the games?
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: It's a great process. I love the process. It's pretty
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: miraculous as you see it happen. I think my.
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: Ideas are the best. Hope everybody agrees with that. But
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: even my ideas, they hope you're laughing.
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: Even my ideas get better when they go through that
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: legislative process. It is a difficult process, but it's pretty
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: miraculous to see ideas come out.
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: They get vetted by the public, they get vetted by
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: other legislators. Makes it one of the red posts to.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Be unl Stuart Adams is going to stay with me
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: for another segment. I want to talk about public safety
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: because UTA is very safe and I want to know
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: why that is. Don't go anywhere America on YouTube. Welcome
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Back America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Stuart Adams, President of Utah
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: State Senators. Stuck around with me, and I like Stuart
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: so much because he likes the things I like, in
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: order of importance, schools, cops, and desalinization. First of all,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: school choice. How's your tad doing, Stuart.
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: We passed a school choice piled We did it with
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: a two thirds majority in both the House and the Senate.
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: The only state in the nation to pass school choice
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: with a two thirds majority. Call it Utah fits all
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: in Utah gives an eight thousand dollars scholarship and it's
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: wildly successful. And again, parents should be able to decide
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: what's best for their kids.
• 49:08
  Speaker 14: It's causing competition. We're doing very well. I believe that's why.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: Again, another reason why Utah is the number one state in.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: The nation, Number two public safety. If folks invest in police,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Now sometimes that's a local issue, but the state's got
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: to back it up. How do you help the locals
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: keep their cops on the street.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: Well, we're actually not only help fund it, but it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: really a policy issue.
• 49:34
  Speaker 14: I mean, we all know that.
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: Treatments a lot better than incarceration. But the problem is
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: anybody with a severe substance abuse problem, they're not going
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: to go get treatment unless they have a motivation. So
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: you need again, you need criminal justice policies that allow
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: for those issues to be dealt with, and you need
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: to give those incur verage. So sometimes you can be
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: too kind and you don't motivate people to get the
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: treatment they need. And we think the combination of getting
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: proper treatment and housing without treatment that doesn't work. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: treatment with strong criminal justice revisions reforms is what's held Utah.
• 50:19
  Speaker 14: We've actually seen a homelessness drop in Utah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Now I want to finish with the Great Salt Lake.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I used to live in southern California. I got frustrated.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: We had two de cel plants in southern California. Israel's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: got six, Saudi Arabia has got a lot, UAE's got
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: a lot. DSL works in some places. It should. We
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: got the Pacific Ocean in California, so there should be
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: no water problem. What do you think about d seal
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and the Great Salt Lake.
• 50:44
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, I actually went to Israel and I
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: saw their technology. They had very economical. They solved their
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: water problems with desalination. I came back to Utah, I
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: started talking about desalination, and the media gave me a
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: little bad time.
• 51:00
  Speaker 14: They didn't know that we had another plan in place.
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: We actually went down to talk to San Diego, talked
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: to San Diego Waterboard and said, we will build a
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: salination plans. Utah will build them for San Diego, for California,
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: but we want to trade you your Colorado or River water.
• 51:17
  Speaker 14: Colorado River existing.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: No, we don't need to.
• 51:20
  Speaker 14: And you know what they said. They liked that idea.
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: And during that was a year or two ago, during
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: the legislative session this February, Governor Knewso sent our Governor
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: Cox a letter saying we'd like the idea too.
• 51:34
  Speaker 14: It's pretty pretty great idea.
• 51:36
  Speaker 8: You do have this Pacific Ocean and if we can
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: create more water, that's a wind for everyone.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: There's a win for everyone. Let's close with critical minerals
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: because it's a national security issue. You got them, will
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you ta let the rest of the country developed them
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: for national security purposes?
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: Well again, Holloi side is one of the great critical
• 51:55
  Speaker 8: mineral deposits in the world. China has been the only
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: spot where Halloi sites existed. We just found the largest
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: holloiside deposit.
• 52:03
  Speaker 14: It's a silicon clay. It's not granted. You can just
• 52:06
  Speaker 14: melt the.
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: Silicon, get the critical minerals out of it, done very cheaply.
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: We have the largest deposit we found in Utah. We're
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: going to compete on a national scale and international. Even
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: the India Time says it will change the entire financial
• 52:20
  Speaker 8: ballance in the world. We're going to tell the critical
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: mineral problems for the free world and we will share.
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: We'll share, but we'll make some money before we do it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm from Ohio and we have the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Great Lakes Compact and no one's allowed to have the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Great Lakes water. I've always thought that was silly. If
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you could sell it for enough, you could you could
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: actually open it up a little bit. But I'm sure
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Utah wants to make its money back before it lets
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it go. But the Pentagon needs that stuff, right, That's
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: our critical infrastructure, our critical weapons system. You've got that
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: enormous air Force base there, don't You aren't all the
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: minute men or some of the minutemen up there.
• 53:01
  Speaker 14: Hill Air Force Base.
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: The entire land based missile system is hell has down
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: a Hill Air Force Base. But you need him for
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: F thirty fives. You need him for our F twenty
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: two is our stealth, but you also need them for
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: the auto industry. You didn't have critical minerals. You shut
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: down the auto industry in Japan, in Europe, the United States.
• 53:19
  Speaker 14: You shut down our pharmaceutical in the industry. You need
• 53:22
  Speaker 14: it for the economy. We're going to help solve that problem.
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: And Utah is on tracted to do that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Be careful, Stuart Adams, part of that desled deal with you,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Avin Newsom. He might ask you to come over and
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: be the president of the California State Senate too, and
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: then you'll be really going out of your mind. So
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Always good. I'll see it
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: at the ALLC Convention in Orlando. I hope Stuart Adams
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: is a treasure to the United States and is the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: state of Utah. Always good at talk to him. Don't
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: go anywhere America. I'm go Hewitt, Welcome back in America.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Former United Senator Jim Tallon is on
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the board of the Reagan Institute study for your Center
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: of Peace Studies or whatever they call it, but it's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: in the national security thing. Jim Tallon, I followed everything
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: the President said. I don't know what he's going to do.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: What do you think he's going to do about Iran?
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: Well, you, I kind of remember that old song Clowns
• 54:23
  Speaker 15: to the left of me, jokers to the right, You're
• 54:25
  Speaker 15: right with you exactly. I kind of feel that way
• 54:30
  Speaker 15: because on the one hand, we have the Democrats who
• 54:33
  Speaker 15: oppose what the president's done so far because they pose
• 54:37
  Speaker 15: everything he's done. And then we have the Israelis like
• 54:40
  Speaker 15: doctor Oran, who is who I just love. I mean,
• 54:43
  Speaker 15: he's one of the premier statesmen of our time, and
• 54:46
  Speaker 15: they're concerned the President's not going to do enough, and
• 54:48
  Speaker 15: I'm kind of stuck in the middle of the President.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: I think he's handled this very well.
• 54:53
  Speaker 15: I think we are going to impose more costs and
• 54:55
  Speaker 15: consequences on the Iranians because of the pot shots they've
• 54:58
  Speaker 15: been taking over the last few weeks at countries, you know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 15: in the Gulf and around the Gulf. But the key
• 55:06
  Speaker 15: U is going to be opening up the straight Dwayne
• 55:10
  Speaker 15: and I talked about this last night. We started to
• 55:13
  Speaker 15: do that ten days ago. We stopped, I think because
• 55:17
  Speaker 15: the Gulf states are afraid. I mean, look, they know
• 55:20
  Speaker 15: the Iranians can't force the blockade. The Iranians can't successfully
• 55:25
  Speaker 15: attack American naval vessels. They're afraid there that they'll be
• 55:29
  Speaker 15: able to attack successfully their infrastructure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: That scares them.
• 55:33
  Speaker 15: And I don't blame them, because particularly the desalinization plants
• 55:38
  Speaker 15: are important. But at some point they're they're just going
• 55:41
  Speaker 15: to have to get a spine and let us open
• 55:43
  Speaker 15: up the straight, because when we open up the straight
• 55:46
  Speaker 15: while we're continuing the blockade, that's check me. And I'm
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: I'm morally certain the president is planning that.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Uh Jim Tellen, I have a column coming out on
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Fox Nest Amount in which I remind people we ran
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: no fly zones in Northern Iraq and Southern Iraq from
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: April and August respectively of nineteen ninety one to two
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: thousand and three. Can we run a no shoot zone?
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: In other words, you fly as a drone out of
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the one hundred miles from the Strait of Hormones inland
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and we will follow it up with a moab. Can
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: we and then take the next step, no live zone,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: everybody out, like Israel did with Southern Lebanon, everybody out.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Should we do that?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Could we do that? Well?
• 56:32
  Speaker 15: As I understand it, And the next time you get
• 56:35
  Speaker 15: Mark Montgomery on, you know, ask Kim. But that's basically
• 56:39
  Speaker 15: at least part of what opening up the straight intenns.
• 56:42
  Speaker 15: In other words, there's constant fighter cover, constant surveillance, air
• 56:47
  Speaker 15: and naval in order to take out basically anything that
• 56:51
  Speaker 15: moves that looks like it might be able to shoot
• 56:54
  Speaker 15: successfully at one of the ships that's transiting the straits.
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's how you do it now.
• 57:01
  Speaker 15: I remember the press conference with Secretary Hexath and General Kine,
• 57:06
  Speaker 15: and they were talking about opening a corridor. They said
• 57:09
  Speaker 15: they had opened a corridor on the south part of
• 57:12
  Speaker 15: the street. The idea is to get as much space
• 57:15
  Speaker 15: distance as you can from the Iranian coast, and then
• 57:18
  Speaker 15: you use missile defense to take out anything they do shoot,
• 57:21
  Speaker 15: and you have constant surveillance and aircraft manned and unmanned
• 57:27
  Speaker 15: in the air to attack the shooter.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's how you open up the strait.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: You know, Jim. This weekend a movie comes out. I'll
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: be talking to one of the historians, a consultant I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: called Pressure. It's about Ike's decision to do D Day
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: and it was a very very difficult decision. But after
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: he got the trips ashore, they ran into I hope.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I don't butcher the pronunciation Saw Lou, And after three
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: weeks of grinding and not moving anything, he just called
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: in whatever the equivalent of the B fifty twos were,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: and there wasn't anything left of Sawn Lou. We can
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: We should move the people out first.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: But should we do that? We can do that. Should
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: we do that to the one hundred mile stretch where
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: they're shooting from.
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: I think if it's necessary. Now we now have.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Ups, we got it free.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: I imagine when.
• 58:20
  Speaker 15: We strike the Kinnectic attack that is coming, I think
• 58:24
  Speaker 15: I'm going to be surprised if a big part of it. Yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: some of the stuff they have is mobile. The drones
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: in particular can be hard to spot. This is a
• 58:38
  Speaker 15: technically difficult operation. We can't reduce the risk to zero,
• 58:43
  Speaker 15: but we don't need to. I mean, my guess is
• 58:46
  Speaker 15: that Sencom has already engaged in discussions with the different
• 58:51
  Speaker 15: companies involved, has already knows which.
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: Freighters are likely to be the first to move.
• 58:56
  Speaker 15: In fact, even in the like the twenty four hours
• 58:59
  Speaker 15: in which we were doing Operation of Freedom, some freighters
• 59:03
  Speaker 15: had moved.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: We don't need to get all of them out.
• 59:06
  Speaker 15: We need to get the oil flowing to settle the
• 59:09
  Speaker 15: future's market, bring down the price of oil.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: But Jim Tallent, you have a little bit of alall.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: You've got a bandwidth problem there, Jim, I want to
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: give you one more question, though. We took a super
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: tanker yesterday, a million barrels. That's their third tanker from
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the ghost fleet. Those are permanent losses to Iran's productivity.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: How much more can this state take before it just
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: collapses like Cuba collapse?
• 59:40
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I was going to use Cuba as the parallel you.
• 59:44
  Speaker 15: I mean, they're out of power now like twenty hours
• 59:47
  Speaker 15: of the day. It may take a couple of months,
• 59:50
  Speaker 15: but if oil prices are settling.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Now you've got the worst internet in America, you may
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: have the Iranian after you, Jim Talent.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Javid Edley's and then collapse the economy.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sir. I hope it was better on
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Dwayne's World on the Universe last night. But I think
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the Iranians are doing a dos on Jim Talent. Wherever
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: secret location is undisclosed location, as we like to say,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: follow them on x at Jim Talent. Let me remind
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: everyone we are in the middle of our campaign to
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: send kids to camp. We're in our middle of our
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign and it costs two hundred
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: dollars to send a child to camp for the summer
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: for a week. Give all us into Steve Collins, who
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: is Angel Trees Director of camping.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 16: That was one of the things kids would say. We
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 16: had Angel Tree kids that would come to camp. Sometimes
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 16: they would ask me, why do we eat so much here?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 16: You know, because they were used to getting one meal
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 16: a day. And another thing we don't think about is
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 16: a lot of times the best meal that these kids
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 16: get is the free lunch they get at school, and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: during the summer school's out, and so yeah, camp is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: is special.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 11: They're going to be well fed, that's for sure.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 14: And loss of fun actum.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: It's amazing to think of food being the attraction for camp.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: But of course, if you're coming from an economically underprivileged
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: situation where dad's in prison, it's going to be a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: joy to get three squares triple a two of six
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: twenty seven sixty four, go horseback riding, ziplining, hit the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: big blob in the middle of the lake, get the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: counselors going in a shaving cream fight, water balloon fight.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: It's all the same everywhere. And these kids deserve to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: go rafting. Triple eight two of six twenty seven sixty
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: four twenty dollars for tenth of a scholarship two hundred
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: dollars cents a kid to camp four hundred and sends
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: a couple of brothers who would need to go Triple
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: eight two O six twenty seven sixty four, Triple A
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: two O six twenty seven sixty four. I'll be right
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: back morning, Gordon in Grace America. I'm Hugh Hewett, joined
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: by the United States Senator Marsha Blackburn. She is Senator
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: from Tennessee, you mean the next governer of Tennessee as well.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: But before she gets to go down and run the
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: state of volunteers, she gets to finish up some business
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: up here. Senator, what is going on with the parliamentarian
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and the reconciliation bill to get HHS fully funded.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 12: And what we are trying to do is work out
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 12: some of these issues. This is a public safety reconciliation
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 12: and of course you've always got people trying to put
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 12: things into a reconciliation bill because you can pass it
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 12: with fifty one votes So our goal is to keep
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 12: it as narrow as we possibly can, to keep it germane,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 12: and to move it quickly through the Senate and over
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: to the House so the President can have it on
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 12: this desk and we can have DHS fully funded for
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: the rest of President Trump's term.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Now it is in fact a public safety bill and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the Secret Services in there, and the Secret Service is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: concerned with White House. So is it a ballroom issue
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: or is it an issue about what's below the ballroom.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: It is an issue of what is needed by the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 12: Secret Service. It's all things that would be below the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: ballroom or even off the White House premises. But anytime
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: you have deferred maintenance of buildings, you have deferred training.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: You at some point you've got to bring that up
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: to parity. And the Secret Service is saying, this is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: what we need in order to provide adequate protection for
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: the protectees that we are sworn to protect. So you
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 12: have new equipment, new technologies, new training, cyber protections, cyber training,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: things that need to be addressed.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: So this is all about the Secret Service.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 12: And I will say this, we wouldn't be here having
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 12: this debate if it were not for the Democrat who
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 12: have made it a goal to abolish ICE, to defund
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 12: federal law enforcement, and as unseemly as as that is
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: to so many of us, the Democrats are very given
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 12: to abolishing ICE and defunding federal law enforcement and opening
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 12: that southern border back up wide open.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: Now, Senator, can I skip ahead a little bit. I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: assume you'll get this done, because everyone wants gone from
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Memorial Day, including the parliamentarian. You'll get this done, and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: you'll get maybe a reconciliation three point zero done. Do
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you think that's possible?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 12: I do think that what you will see is a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 12: third reconciliation. It will pick up some of those remaining
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 12: tax issues that we wanted to get done last year.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 12: Are also some of the healthcare issues that we wanted
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 12: to get done, and bring that forward into a reconciliation
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 12: bill that we can do either in September or after
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 12: the elections in November.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Now, I would also like to see some of the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: defense reforms, like new primes, additional funding to secure rapid
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: replenishment of our munitions. Do you expect defense do you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: expect defense spending to be in reconciliation three point zero?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk with center at Capitol after you,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: and that's her bailiwick. But what do you think.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 12: And there is an opportunity for some of that funding
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 12: to be there. What we do have to realize is
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 12: twenty first century warfare. As we are looking at space force,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 12: as we are looking at hypersonics, as we're looking at
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 12: the need to have a space force National Guard, all
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 12: of this changes how you choose to spend your money. Now,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 12: some over at the Department of War would like to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: keep the focus on legacy systems, but what we have
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 12: learned from the WARFI is that changes in how they're
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 12: able to communicate. Having that instantaneous communication between the warfighter
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 12: on the ground and the forward operating base and their
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 12: command center and the Pentagon many times that is something
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 12: that will save lives. Also, utilization of drones, this is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 12: something that with these unmanned aircraft you can do a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 12: lot of your ISR activity. You can do it very
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 12: quickly and much less expensively, more cost effective in how
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 12: you conduct those surveillance situations. You can also provide protection
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 12: for the troops on the ground by using the drones
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 12: who are going to help you in that surveillance capacity.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 12: To be certain the warfighter is in a safer environment
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 12: and being able to immediately pinpoint where the enemy is.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Senator cons retch your Tennessee for a moment. I assume
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you're going to be governor. I'm not talking politics with you.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: I'm talking assuming you're going to be governor. School choice
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: got started in Tennessee. Do you want to expand it
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: when you get there?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 12: I think it's important to recognize the good work that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: Tennesseeans have done, and I have voted in favor of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 12: increasing school choice and education scholarships at the federal level.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 11: We did that in the Big Beautiful Bill.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: And I will tell you this, Hugh.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 12: Parents ought not to have to win the lottery in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 12: order to have a say in their child's education. And
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 12: we know one size education does not fit all, and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 12: you have to be able to put that child in
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 12: an environment where they are going to best learn. You
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 12: want a child to grow up and be lifelong learner,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 12: and you want them to leave that K twelve education
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 12: process knowing how they best learn, how they best attain knowledge,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 12: how they best retain knowledge, how they best apply knowledge,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 12: and that will help them throughout their life, throughout their career.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 12: If they have learned that lesson by the time they
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 12: finish high school.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Now, the volunteer state just had a knockdown, drag out
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: redistricting that went for the Republicans. Republicans pick up a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: seat that way. Memphis gets chopped up into three different districts,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: which is fine by me. You followed the Massachusetts model,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: blue state has all blue congressmen, and a red state's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: going to have all red congressmen. Is that pretty much
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: the way it's going to be going forward for all
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: states where there's one party control of the three branches House, Senate,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: and governorship. I think, so, what do you think?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 12: I'm not so sure I agree with that that as
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 12: you look at districts that make sense, as you look
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 12: at complying with the Supreme Courts directive that you cannot
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 12: use race, you can't use it in hiring and education,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 12: you can't use it in how you draw districts, and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: they basically said you can draw a district based on
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 12: political affiliations. And so as you look at how this
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 12: is going to play out, I think you will see
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: districts that may be more competitive. You're going to see
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 12: districts that are going to be more solidly red or
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 12: more solidly blue. But what I have learned is all
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 12: politics is local, and people are going to vote for
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 12: the individual that they think is going to do the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 12: best job of representing the Sometimes they'll vote Democrats, sometimes
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 12: they'll vote for an independent. Sometimes they'll vote for a Republican.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 12: But candidate quality does matter in this right.
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  Speaker 1: Last question, Senator, you get to a point if you
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: win the governorship, I think you will buy a lot.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: You get to point your replacement and you know the Senate,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you've been there a while. I'm not going to ask
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you for a name, but what kind of qualities does
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Tennessee need in its next Senator that you'll be looking
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: for as people line up to knock on your door
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: and say pick me.
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  Speaker 12: You know what, Hugh, you know very well that that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 12: is a topic that I cannot touch.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Well you could talk about I don't even had theness
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: open mindedness, willing to know Tennessee. You don't need to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: name any name.
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  Speaker 2: Centater not going there, sir.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Safe travel home for the Memorial Day weekend. I hope
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you get all the budget stuff. Pat, Will you talk
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: to me as often when your governor as you do
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: when you're.
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  Speaker 12: Senator I'm always delighted to have a conversation with you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Marsha Blackburn, the Senator from Tennessee who's going
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: to be the next governor back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: joined now by Senator Shelley Moore, Capita. Senator at Capitol
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: is on three committees that matters so much. Environment and
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Public Works that matters, Commerce, Science and Technology that matters.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: But what I want to talk to you about is appropriation. Senator,
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  Speaker 1: how are you this afternoon.
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  Speaker 9: I am good, I'm good, Hugh, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the question. I was listening to School of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: War yesterday. Aaron McLain hosts IT and CBS national security
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: consultant and correspondent, and Christian bros was on. He used
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: to be staff director of Armed Services for John McCain.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: He's now the chief strategy officer for ANDERIL. He said,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: if Appropriations and the Budget Committee can get Reconciliation three
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  Speaker 1: point zero through, they can get a lot of our
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: munition stockpile funded through the end of the year and
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: ANDERILL can start turning out cruise missiles by the thousands,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: as can other new primes. What do you think can
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: we get Reconciliation three point.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: Zero through Well, it's interesting because we're going to talk
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: about appropriations. We've got to get Reconciliation Package number two
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: through the gate first, and as you know, we're working
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: on that right now, and that, of course is the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: border security homeland security portion. I think we probably can
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  Speaker 9: because I feel as though all of us realize that
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: our military is under you know, weapons are running short,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 9: they're training, they're having to relook at costs for training
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: and other things. So they're underfunded, and so we we're
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: going to need to put more money in. But we
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: just don't think we're going to get to support from
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: the Democrats because obviously they held out homeland security for
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 9: a very long time with other besides border issues with
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 9: TSA and Coast guardens and things of that nature. So
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 9: I think reconcil could be an option. The administration has
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 9: also said they're going to ask for a supplemental. We
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: haven't seen that yet, and so that again is another
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 9: method to get additional dollars besides a regular appropriations process.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Now, mister bro said to Aaron that right now three
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: point zero Reconciliation three point zero is probably for the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: post election session, and that might not leave enough time.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a terrible idea too, because a lot
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: of people will be mad, a lot of people will
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: be happy, a lot of people just want to stay
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: home and not do this stuff. We got to get
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: these munitions done. And your committee, Senator Collins, is a chair,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and you're like a prime mover on it. Do you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: have it in the in the in the gut that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: we really have to get the munition stockpile up? Is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: it like your priority?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, it is definitely a priority for me, and I
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: know it is for Chair Collins and also for Senator
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 9: McConnell who chairs that subcommittee. You know, our problem is
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 9: of course worse in the Senate, the sixty vote threshold,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 9: the need for Democrats. However, if it's framed properly, which
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 9: I think it will be, munitions and stockpiles, and also
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: the possibilities of you mentioned anderl and others who are
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: going to be able to move forward with the production
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 9: of weapons that actually are going to be in much
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 9: greater numbers at much smaller costs. And I think that's
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 9: where the greatest emphasis in my view, the technologies moved
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 9: so much that we have the possibility of replenishing our
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 9: weapons with just as effective weapons, and the money can
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 9: go a lot farther. So I think that's another reason
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 9: that we need to put a priority on this.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Now, you've been following us for so long, you're an
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: expert in the appropriations process. We've always done it the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: other way. Pentagon says, we want X, Y, and Z,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: and they change the RECs all the way through the process.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: It gets expensive, it gets canceled. What do you make
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: of this new approach that not just DANDREL but others
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: are doing.
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  Speaker 2: There are lots of them.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Actually, they said, hey, we'll take the risk, we'll bring
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: in the venture capital, we'll build weapons, and we'll try
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and sell you the weapons. What do you make of
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: that system?
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  Speaker 9: You know, I think it's a great idea. I mean
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 9: I think, you know, private sector innovation and of course
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 9: AI and other things that have come up have really
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: made the possibility of change and speed and accuracy. And
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: we know they're testing a lot of these things in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 9: the Ukrainian War and to a great success. And why
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: wouldn't we want that rather than making the old weapons
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 9: that are you know, four million dollars a shot that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 9: are expensive to make, take time, to make you know,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying we need to exclusively do the sharper
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: smaller or less expensive weapons, because we're going to need
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 9: the old weapons as well, but maybe not in the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 9: same number. So why wouldn't we get the private sector
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  Speaker 9: if they're willing to take the risk to go ahead
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  Speaker 9: and move forward on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear you say that. Let me
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: switch subjects on you briefly. You're not judiciary, but there
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: is a rumor buzzing that Justice Toledo is in fact
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: going to retire he had faked this. If that happens,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not asking you how you vote on a replacement
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: anything like that, but what's it due to the schedule
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: this summer for the Senate?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 9: If that happened, well, yeah, that was certainly up end
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 9: our schedule. But you know, depending on who the president
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 9: would pick, I think we saw Gorsic move quickly his
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 9: nomination move quickly, more quickly than say Cavanaugh, and I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 9: think that you know, a good solid pick with easy
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 9: paperwork and you know, no conflicts, I think we could
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 9: move it fairly rapidly, So I'm not too worried about
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 9: the time right now. I do think the window probably
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 9: is closing once you get to September. Depending on what
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 9: happens in the election, obviously, that will weigh into it.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Do you prefer nominees who have decided a number of
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: cases so you can look and see how they read it,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: or do you like blank blank sheets because there are
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: arguments both ways?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think obviously the ones that I've
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 9: worked on have been past jurists. They've got opinions written.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 9: You can see their leanings, whether they're you know, constitutionalists
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: or or they're ready to go far afield and stretching
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: the constitution. I think that's always useful. I think demeanor
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: and conduct in the courtroom I think is important as well.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: I mean that sounds like a given, but you know
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  Speaker 9: as well as I do, that's not given, some of
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 9: you know, just so judicial temperament I think is extremely important,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: and so I think a record is always helpful.
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  Speaker 1: So finally, Center Capital, you are always so careful in
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: commenting on war and piece issues, and never let I
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: am confused.
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  Speaker 2: By where we are right now.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with the ambiguity that in this war,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: this non ceasefire, seasefire, this kinetic ceasefire, or do you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: think we have to either end it or mend it.
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  Speaker 9: I think we have to end it, quite frankly, simply
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: because you know, to a sad factory, to the satisfaction
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: of the President and also the satisfaction of those of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 9: us who have supported the president in this. And and
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 9: we know a lot of what he's what's already been done,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: destruction of the navy, the missiles, et cetera. Uh, you know,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 9: and the ability to develop a nuclear weapon. But we've
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: got to get that straight open. I think it's time.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: And I am confused when the President is like on
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: the verge of restarting you know, kinetic action, and then
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 9: even in his own description, pulls back an hour before.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not sure that I don't know who we're negotiating
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 9: with here. That's my big question. Who who in Iran
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: is really going to be the decision maker here? And
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure I had the confidence that even the
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: Iranians know who's making those decisions.
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  Speaker 1: So there are two camps. There are the finish the
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  Speaker 1: job people. There are two camps of center to finish
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  Speaker 1: the job people. And then let's say how it plays.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a finish the job Senator.
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  Speaker 9: I'm gonna finish the job. Person. I mean, I go
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: this far without finishing the job. And you know this
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: is a generational thing I've said about this conflict. This
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 9: is not if we were ever going to do this,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 9: This was going to be a win, and this is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: the time that was chosen. The President had the guts
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  Speaker 9: to do it, and we need to see it through
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  Speaker 9: to the end.
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  Speaker 1: Senator Shelley Moore Capito, thank you for the update on
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: budgeting on what we can expect this summer, and I
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: appreciate your candor as always. Have a great Memorial Day weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me on short notice today. I'll
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: be talking with Share Collins tomorrow about the same stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I really love talking to a prayer for years
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• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the ones you got to talk to. Thank you, Senator.
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  Speaker 1: for a commentary magazine. I listen to commentary podcast every day,
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  Speaker 1: so I hear Seth at least three or four or
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  Speaker 1: five times a week. Seth. Earlier today, Roul Castro was
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  Speaker 1: charged with murder by a US court. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think that's a setup for.
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to know, I mean, I guess the question is,
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  Speaker 7: is this is set up for like a Venezuela type thing.
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  Speaker 7: I don't really know, but I think that they want
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  Speaker 7: to open negotiations with the Cubans and they want some leverage.
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  Speaker 7: They very clearly want to be talking to the Cubans
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  Speaker 7: about something about, you know, a kind of securing our
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  Speaker 7: hemisphere of the way that Trump likes to do. Venezuela
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  Speaker 7: was part of it, a kind of Minro doctrine approach
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  Speaker 7: to things in the Americas. What they're seeking exactly that
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What is the best case solution from a general pro
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Western pro capitalism point of view for Cuba, Seth Mandel,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: I have a vision, what's yours.
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  Speaker 7: Freedom? I mean, why not incorporate them into the modern
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: world or give them the opportunity to write. I mean,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 7: the best possible outcome for the Cuban peoples to determine
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: their own future. And right now they can't and they don't,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: and they're experiencing a fair amount of misery because of it.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 7: And I think that when you empower people, everybody's life
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: gets better.
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  Speaker 1: Given the Cuban xpac community in the United States that
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: has been here since nineteen sixty fig we're going on
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: almost seventy years of people fleeing Cuba, and maybe some
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: people fled Batista. Do you think they would take their
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: money back. I don't think they're going to repatriate and
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: become Cubans, but I think they'll invest in the island.
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  Speaker 8: Do you.
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  Speaker 2: Probably?
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  Speaker 7: But I think also it's it's about they will reunite
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: with family members and they will have connection with friends
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: and family that they can't really have right now. I
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 7: think it will integrate Cuba into, you know, into the world,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 7: but specifically for the expat it will be a wonderful
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 7: thing to see people as if a wall came down,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 7: and you know, and family members or friends are on
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: opposite sides of the Berlin Wall or something. Peering through
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 7: the connection is a really beautiful thing. The connection is
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: something that they deserve as humans, and so I hope
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: that happens well.
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  Speaker 1: I also think it's probably we do have Guantanamo Bay
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: if it was an ally of the United States. It's
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: a big island, it's strategically located. I would not be
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: surprised to see quite an investment in the American government
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: in facilities around and on Cuba.
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  Speaker 7: Would you, No, I wouldn't be surprised at all. There's
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: there's always a strategic element, as I said to the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: Monroe Doctrine way that Trump tends to see the world.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: If you remember, in his first term, he was actually
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: quite interested in Venezuela as well. He didn't the administration
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: didn't go as far as they went this time, but
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 7: they recognized the opposition leader as the legitimate head of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: the government, and they backed the Organization of American States
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 7: in their attempt to isolate the Maduro regime and the
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: Travistas and to get its Venezuela's constitutional government back on track.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: So you know, they've been interested, they've been eyeing Venezuela
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: for a decade and then went in and did and took,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 7: you know that the action that they took. But I
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: think that, yeah, they always have their eyes, especially within
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 7: the t administration, on the Americas and on our surroundings
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 7: on you know what Russia would call, it's near abroad, right.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 7: That seems to have been a focus of Trump and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: the administration from the very beginning.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, so yesterday Axios carried a story they had been leaked,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: obviously by some apparatchick for Cuba or one of the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: people that they've gone on their payroll, that they had
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: acquired nine hundred drones that could reach Key West and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Guantanamo and maybe other places in the United States. What
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: would be the reaction if they hit any of us,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: any of us with a drone? Do you think.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 7: The reaction would be not dissimilar from the reaction of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: anybody else shooting missiles at the American mainland and hitting
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 7: and potentially killing Americans?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, you only have to look at what Venezuela
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 7: serves as in terms of an example, and those were
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: drug boats mainly, but they were seen as harming the
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  Speaker 7: American people and undermining American society and American security and
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  Speaker 7: all that. Certainly, I don't think Cuba would get any
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  Speaker 7: any special dispensation for you know, a free shot.
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  Speaker 2: Or two at the US.
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  Speaker 7: They always the same.
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  Speaker 1: They get, Yeah, one hundred and first Airborne, That's what
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  Speaker 1: I think they'd get. They would end up with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of parachutes and landing craft and it wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: the Bay of Pigs two point zero. It would be
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  Speaker 1: Operation during Freedom two point zero. Don't go anywhere America.
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  Speaker 1: The marchback Dad that I'm referencing, I'll be right back
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  Speaker 1: with Seth Mandel. We'll talk about the big war right
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  Speaker 1: after the quarterback America. I'm here here with Seth Mandel.
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  Speaker 1: You can follow Seth on Twitter at Seth Mandel, Seth Amandel.
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  Speaker 1: I believe, am I right about that? Set Seth A. Mandel,
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  Speaker 1: That's right, all right. I'm reading from the Times of
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  Speaker 1: Israel right now. Israel said preparing for renewal of Iran war.
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  Speaker 1: Trump says terror as days to make a deal. TV
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  Speaker 1: report points to signs of Heiden readiness, including a five
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  Speaker 1: hour cabinet meeting, cancelation of PM's trial hearing, and Trump
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  Speaker 1: says he is not sure attack will when it will happen.
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  Speaker 1: What do you guess or think.
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  Speaker 7: That we're going back to war, that we're going back
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  Speaker 7: to an offensive posture in the conflict with Iran?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And when you say that, do you mean for
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  Speaker 1: a day, a month, as long as it takes. Because
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  Speaker 1: we quit last time, and we quit too soon.
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  Speaker 7: We did quit too soon. And I wish I knew
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  Speaker 7: what was in the President's head. I don't, but it
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  Speaker 7: ought to be for more than a day. And of course,
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  Speaker 7: you know, my opinion is that it should be for
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  Speaker 7: as long.
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  Speaker 5: As it takes.
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  Speaker 7: But one thing I've noticed about the president here is
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  Speaker 7: that he has not really gotten scared off of the
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  Speaker 7: Iran conflict by gas prices. That attack has been used
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  Speaker 7: on him, that criticism has been used repeatedly, and he
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  Speaker 7: hasn't backed off of that. He just doesn't think that's
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  Speaker 7: enough to stop his quest of preventing Iran from attaining
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  Speaker 7: nuclear weapons. So I think he's often biding time for
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  Speaker 7: one thing or another. Sometimes it's to reposition forces. Sometimes
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  Speaker 7: it is to feel or on out and see what
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  Speaker 7: their red lines might be under new leadership, and then
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  Speaker 7: proceed from there.
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  Speaker 2: But he hasn't. He hasn't let up on the on
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  Speaker 2: the Straight of.
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  Speaker 7: Hormus and the conflict over that, over the shipping and
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  Speaker 7: the embargoes, and so whatever happens, that is still going
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  Speaker 7: to have the effect on gas prices and the economy.
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  Speaker 7: That is behind the criticism that he's receiving. So offensive
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  Speaker 7: or not, whatever we do with our fighter jets, that
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  Speaker 7: part of the Iran war is not going to change,
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  Speaker 7: and that cost is baked in. So I would think
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  Speaker 7: that the smart move would just be to finish the
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  Speaker 7: job and do what it takes, especially if we're not
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  Speaker 7: going to move off of the embargo of the strait
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  Speaker 7: of the blockade, and this is going to continue. It
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  Speaker 7: gives Trump's political opposition grist for attack ads and things
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  Speaker 7: they're going to use against Republicans in the midterms. If
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  Speaker 7: they're already making that spending that political capital the Republicans are,
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  Speaker 7: then I think he's just got to do what it
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  Speaker 7: takes to win the war.
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  Speaker 1: Now, there are about one hundred miles of coastland that
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  Speaker 1: at the narrowest margin that channel get found to about
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  Speaker 1: twenty two miles. And you remember, I assume you remember
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  Speaker 1: maybe you're too young. The no fly zones in Iraq,
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  Speaker 1: we had two of them, one in the north from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one April nineteen ninety one, one in the
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  Speaker 1: south from August of nineteen ninety one. Both of them
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  Speaker 1: went for twelve years. We enforced no fly zones over
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  Speaker 1: Kurdistan and southern Iraq for twelve years until Saddam was
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  Speaker 1: eventually toppled. What do you make of a no fire zone?
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  Speaker 1: In other words, if we see any drone or anything,
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  Speaker 1: we'll bring the moabs out for that stretch of the
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  Speaker 1: straight or miss because we really cannot allow them to
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  Speaker 1: carry on with these hijinks.
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  Speaker 7: Right, and also we've already crippled our ability to build
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  Speaker 7: and develop ballistic missiles, which was a huge part of there.
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  Speaker 7: Of both wars in both major theaters, right the war
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  Speaker 7: between Russia and Ukraine in Europe and the war and
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  Speaker 7: the air war throughout the Middle East. Iran was a
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  Speaker 7: real hinge point in that with its development of ballistic missiles,
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  Speaker 7: so they have less to respond with, less to retaliate with.
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  Speaker 7: And so we should not be shy about that, because
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  Speaker 7: the truth is that now is, at this moment is
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  Speaker 7: the time when you would when you would want to
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  Speaker 7: get into that kind of a shooting war, because they
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  Speaker 7: simply don't have the missile capability to keep up with us.
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  Speaker 7: If they want that kind of arms race, they're looking
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  Speaker 7: at in a way what the Soviet Union looked at,
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  Speaker 7: which was an arms race that they couldn't afford and
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  Speaker 7: that would bankrupt them. Something similar is the case in Iran.
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  Speaker 7: Iran has less in the way of financial reserves for
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  Speaker 7: the blockade, for what the blockade is costing them versus
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  Speaker 7: what it's costing us, and they have less in the
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  Speaker 7: way of missile development capability. So you know, we can
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  Speaker 7: weight them out. But if they want a fight, they
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  Speaker 7: should absolutely get it with the full force because at
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  Speaker 7: this moment they simply can't compete.
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  Speaker 1: All right now, I want to finish with two political questions.
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  Speaker 1: Let's clink virtual glasses over Thomas Massy getting crushed. How
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  Speaker 1: happy were you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: You know, look, he's he's just I feel like this
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  Speaker 7: has happened a couple times. And Jamal Bowman, a Democrat,
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  Speaker 7: who was the last one, which was you just at
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  Speaker 7: some point you just look ridiculous if you are a
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  Speaker 7: if you are representing your district or supposed to represent
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  Speaker 7: your district in the US House, and instead you spend
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  Speaker 7: all your time thinking about a conflict six thousand miles away.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I just think it's an easy case to
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  Speaker 7: make that you got to get somebody else in there.
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  Speaker 7: Government can't work that way, and it certainly wasn't working
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  Speaker 7: for the people of Kentucky in that situation. So I'm not,
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  Speaker 7: you know, hugely surprised, but I think I'm happy for
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  Speaker 7: Kentuckians because honestly, I think they are the beneficiaries out
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  Speaker 7: of this to at least well, we'll see, I suppose,
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  Speaker 7: but at least have the chance of having somebody in
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  Speaker 7: office who represents their interests and isn't spending half his
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  Speaker 7: time with Rocana in Silicon Valley and half his time
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  Speaker 7: yelling about the Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: All right, last question. The buzz is back that Justice
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Alito is going to retire, and it's going to be
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: a difficult confirmation because Bill Cassidy's mad at Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and John Corner might not be too happy, and there's
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  Speaker 1: always a couple of others who.
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  Speaker 6: Are a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But I have a name. His name is Judge David Strass.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of him? Yes, all right. He
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  Speaker 1: is a eight circuit judge nominated by President Trump in
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Been very very good. My question. He's an
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  Speaker 1: observant Jew, goes to Temple, and the grandchild of Holocaust survivors,
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  Speaker 1: all other things being equal, isn't that a good thing
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  Speaker 1: for a nominee?
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  Speaker 2: Sure?
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  Speaker 7: I mean in terms of you mean in terms of
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  Speaker 7: the moral worldview.
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  Speaker 2: That it creates.
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  Speaker 7: I think sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also they experiences realignment of the Jewish vote
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  Speaker 1: in America. It would be good for Trump to nominate
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  Speaker 1: provided and he is an originalist. I know that, but
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  Speaker 1: he's got to prove it to other people. But provided
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  Speaker 1: he's a good Jude judge, doesn't it help with moving
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  Speaker 1: the Jewish American vote along from the left wing nutters
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  Speaker 1: into the right wing column.
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  Speaker 7: It might, but that would depend on the issues that
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  Speaker 7: have come before his court.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought, think about it. I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to hearing about that on commentary. Seth Mandel, have a
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  Speaker 1: great Memorial Day weekend. Follow him on exit. Seth A.
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  Speaker 1: Mandel call him me to the end of today's program.
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  Speaker 1: On The hug Of Show,