Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jonesy Opens Up About Reconnecting With DJ Envy, Radio History, Wendy Williams, Tina Knowles + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Everybody is Steve, j n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 0:09Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Lona La Rossa is here
- 0:12Speaker 2: as well, and we got a special guest in the
- 0:13Speaker 2: buildings we do now. She is the first black woman
- 0:16Speaker 2: to hold the syndicated morning show. She had one in
- 0:18Speaker 2: New York and Philly has one in New York right now.
- 0:20Speaker 2: She does entertainment rapport of Picks eleven and she has
- 0:23Speaker 2: her own morning shows where I got my start. Ladies
- 0:26Speaker 2: and gentlemen, it's Miss Jones aka Jonesy.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Welcome, good morning, Thank you, thank you, MV. Thank you
- 0:33Speaker 3: for that, thank you for having me here.
- 0:37Speaker 2: So if you don't know, Jones is how I got
- 0:40Speaker 2: my start in morning radio. And I'll just break down
- 0:43Speaker 2: the store and then I'll let you girls take over
- 0:45Speaker 2: because I.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Know everything about Jones.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Yes, I'll shut it.
- 0:49Speaker 2: So I was doing morning radio with Joe Button at
- 0:53Speaker 2: Hot ninety seven.
- 0:54Speaker 1: This is when Starring Buck left, Swaye left.
- 0:58Speaker 2: They tried a bunch of different shows, didn't work, and
- 1:00Speaker 2: they had Joe Button and me. We were doing morning
- 1:03Speaker 2: show and Joe Button was a rapper at the time,
- 1:04Speaker 2: so he was doing his he was on tour and
- 1:06Speaker 2: doing all types of things, and it just didn't work.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Uh, So they brought in Jones.
- 1:10Speaker 2: And when they brought in Jones, me and Jones really
- 1:12Speaker 2: didn't have a relationship. We knew of each other, but
- 1:14Speaker 2: didn't know each other. And I remember the first day,
- 1:16Speaker 2: you know, me being nosy. I was air hustling, and
- 1:19Speaker 2: I found out she was talking out on her manager
- 1:22Speaker 2: or whoever at the time, and she said how much
- 1:24Speaker 2: they made and how much they were giving her, and
- 1:27Speaker 2: I pulled her to the side and I said, look,
- 1:29Speaker 2: just to let you know, they paid Joe Button this.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Much, so you should ask for that much. And right
- 1:33Speaker 1: then and.
- 1:33Speaker 3: There, that's what he said. They paying Joe to fifty.
- 1:38Speaker 1: And we became brother and sister.
- 1:40Speaker 4: She asked for that, and you're a starting point.
- 1:46Speaker 2: And that's how our brother and sister became. And from
- 1:50Speaker 2: now on we've been through ups and downs and battles
- 1:53Speaker 2: and wars, and we always had each other's backs, the
- 1:56Speaker 2: good the bad. We were always there for each other.
- 1:59Speaker 2: And even after we always there for each other. And
- 2:01Speaker 2: that's how it became. So she is somebody that I
- 2:03Speaker 2: look up to in radio. So when I talk about radio,
- 2:06Speaker 2: she taught me how.
- 2:06Speaker 1: To do interviews. She taught me how to tease.
- 2:08Speaker 2: She taught me how to not have anything to talk
- 2:11Speaker 2: about and just pull a topic out of thin air,
- 2:13Speaker 2: make it big like she was the moments, and she
- 2:15Speaker 2: was somebody that mentor or idolized when it came to
- 2:19Speaker 2: radio because she knew how to do it and she
- 2:20Speaker 2: did it so effortlessly.
- 2:22Speaker 1: So miss Jones, ladies, and I love how.
- 2:24Speaker 4: You advocated for her first of all, like you, because
- 2:27Speaker 4: you know nobody would have, did you know what I'm saying?
- 2:29Speaker 4: Not many people would do that. Oh this person getting
- 2:31Speaker 4: paid this, and you knew that, you knew who she
- 2:33Speaker 4: was and that her worth and what she was worth,
- 2:35Speaker 4: you know, and that was really your value.
- 2:38Speaker 3: No one does that anymore, no, nobody, no, So that
- 2:41Speaker 3: that's really dope. Thank you.
- 2:43Speaker 4: How do you feel about how radio is ran today,
- 2:45Speaker 4: the current state of radio today?
- 2:48Speaker 3: You know what business is always business? Once I got that,
- 2:52Speaker 3: Once I understood that, it just became an understanding of
- 2:56Speaker 3: do your show and expect them to perform the business.
- 3:00Speaker 3: You take the personal out of it. It's easier to
- 3:02Speaker 3: just focus and move on. And do your other things.
- 3:05Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk about you getting to radio. So before radio,
- 3:09Speaker 5: you were a music artist, yes, R and B singer.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I had singles where I Want to be Boy.
- 3:16Speaker 3: My first album actually never came out. It wasn't until
- 3:20Speaker 3: I left stepsn Records and got with Andre Herrel at Motown.
- 3:24Speaker 3: It was going to be the new Motown and then
- 3:26Speaker 3: he got fired, and then it was just bringing an A
- 3:29Speaker 3: and R bringing a new It was a mess. So
- 3:32Speaker 3: I'm glad that when they asked me to do weekends
- 3:34Speaker 3: at Hot ninety seven. Although first I was like radio,
- 3:37Speaker 3: I'm going to be a big singer, so I don't
- 3:38Speaker 3: got time. I'm glad I humored them because that wound
- 3:41Speaker 3: up maintaining my lifestyle, which wasn't a huge lifestyle, but
- 3:45Speaker 3: paying my bills because my mother died June twenty sixth
- 3:49Speaker 3: of ninety one, right after I got home from college.
- 3:51Speaker 3: My dad died freshman year, so I had nothing. I
- 3:55Speaker 3: had nothing, so I needed that little weekend job, and
- 3:57Speaker 3: I didn't know I would wind up needing it to
- 3:59Speaker 3: be my full time job when they offered me Morning.
- 4:01Speaker 2: Now Jones was the R and B singer we're talking
- 4:03Speaker 2: to Miss Jones. She was the R and B singer,
- 4:05Speaker 2: kind of like how Fab.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Used to do the Clue mixtapes.
- 4:08Speaker 2: She used to do the R and B version of
- 4:10Speaker 2: that before Fab. So she would sing on the mixtapes.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Who was ever beat was out? She would kill it.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And that's how Jones got popular, and she did with
- 4:17Speaker 2: ron g legendary mixtape, DJ ron G.
- 4:20Speaker 4: I am no, go ahead, no no, that that's amazing.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Ain't never have an R and B mixtape?
- 4:25Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah? That was the start. And it's
- 4:30Speaker 3: funny because once I did it, it started catching on.
- 4:33Speaker 3: But I was just doing it for fun, primarily because
- 4:36Speaker 3: I loved the beats and I always wanted to sing.
- 4:38Speaker 3: I didn't want to necessarily be a rapper. But that
- 4:41Speaker 3: was a good fusion and it was safe because I,
- 4:43Speaker 3: you know, I studied music. I thought I could sing.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I know that people liked it, But hearing a mixtape
- 4:48Speaker 3: on Jamaica Avenue in front of the coliseum wall was everything.
- 4:51Speaker 3: You already made it when that happened.
- 4:52Speaker 4: So what happened, like, why aren't we?
- 4:57Speaker 3: We could blame it on a lot of things. Now,
- 4:59Speaker 3: I'm so glad I avoided the baby oil of it all.
- 5:03Speaker 3: I'm glad that I always wound up with labels that
- 5:07Speaker 3: didn't necessarily have the resources. I was always with a
- 5:10Speaker 3: small engine, and then when you have the other artists
- 5:12Speaker 3: that have the bigger engines and maybe not necessarily the
- 5:15Speaker 3: bigger talent or the bigger gifts, you lose. But I
- 5:19Speaker 3: flipped it and I just stayed the chorus of radio,
- 5:22Speaker 3: never knowing that that would be my full time thing,
- 5:25Speaker 3: and that from radio I would then go back to
- 5:27Speaker 3: making records, because last year I went back to music.
- 5:30Speaker 3: I have a song called Calling Old Ladies that was
- 5:32Speaker 3: Grammy nominated and this is the first time graduation ever,
- 5:35Speaker 3: Thank you so, and I have a new single, let's
- 5:38Speaker 3: play it's the birthday song. Hopefully ve you'll give it
- 5:42Speaker 3: a spin or something.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Do you think Diddy took what you were doing back then?
- 5:48Speaker 3: I know for a facts he did. Women to tell
- 5:50Speaker 3: the story, please, so if you remember the so back
- 5:55Speaker 3: then it was Mary J. Blige, and it was well
- 5:57Speaker 3: before that it was like maybe and Williams, but she
- 6:00Speaker 3: wasn't really a contender because she was a little more
- 6:02Speaker 3: mature at her marketing. But back then it was Michelle A.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Allison Williams and Mary J. Blige was the new kid
- 6:07Speaker 3: on the block. Michelle was from the West Coast, so
- 6:09Speaker 3: she didn't really have the edge, the New York edge,
- 6:12Speaker 3: and they knew well then I came and Ron G
- 6:15Speaker 3: was my person and Diddy was behind Mary. So Mary's
- 6:18Speaker 3: first album, if you go back and listen, it was
- 6:20Speaker 3: really all jazz, R and B. Diddy always had his
- 6:23Speaker 3: ear to the street and so he heard about my
- 6:25Speaker 3: stuff coming and he came to ron G heard the
- 6:28Speaker 3: mixtapes that we were doing, and he knew that my
- 6:30Speaker 3: album was supposed to be like the mixtapes, which wound
- 6:35Speaker 3: up being Mary's remix album. So when he couldn't get
- 6:38Speaker 3: Ron to give him my stuff, because Ron was like, no,
- 6:40Speaker 3: miss Jones was going to be my artist, I'm getting
- 6:42Speaker 3: her a deal, he took the music and went and
- 6:44Speaker 3: remixed her first album and released it before we could
- 6:47Speaker 3: even get out the gate with mine.
- 6:49Speaker 4: So because he couldn't have you or.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Not me, he wanted the music for Mary Oh Good.
- 6:53Speaker 3: He wanted the music from Roanji for Mary. So every
- 6:56Speaker 3: song that was supposed to be mine that's on the
- 7:00Speaker 3: remix album that was he got it from. And he
- 7:04Speaker 3: tricked Ron to Ron just bring all your tapes down here.
- 7:07Speaker 3: I just want to vibe. And Ron dumped all the
- 7:09Speaker 3: tapes there, and I'm like, why would you do that?
- 7:12Speaker 3: In hindsight, he didn't know. We didn't know that Dinny
- 7:14Speaker 3: would wind up being you know, the way it was.
- 7:18Speaker 3: But so that's it. But she didn't know.
- 7:21Speaker 5: Have you and married je oblige ever sat and had
- 7:23Speaker 5: a conversation about.
- 7:24Speaker 3: This and no, and she doesn't know. She doesn't like
- 7:27Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't even still remember, right, Why.
- 7:30Speaker 4: Shouldn't you remember? Did somebody give you somewhere you ain't
- 7:32Speaker 4: supposed to remember?
- 7:33Speaker 3: I mean, because it's so many years, after so many years,
- 7:35Speaker 3: are supposed to move on, right, So don't get me wrong.
- 7:39Speaker 3: I have my moments of Tourette's and going down the rabbit,
- 7:43Speaker 3: But primarily I realized that she did not know, and
- 7:47Speaker 3: it wasn't her fault. And that's not to say that
- 7:50Speaker 3: even if she didn't, she wouldn't have been the huge
- 7:52Speaker 3: star she is today. But I just know that particular
- 7:56Speaker 3: situation happened that way, and that is the truth. But
- 7:59Speaker 3: I'm not denying her success.
- 8:01Speaker 5: A note after that, Diddy did the reality show for
- 8:04Speaker 5: you for free.
- 8:05Speaker 6: I've heard you talk about that.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Remember that Enva My god.
- 8:11Speaker 6: What was the exact reality show?
- 8:12Speaker 3: We don't even know. We were just kids happy to
- 8:14Speaker 3: have some cameras because this is before reality shows, this
- 8:17Speaker 3: is before Keisha call, this is before anything. And they
- 8:19Speaker 3: brought cameras into the High ninety seven studios. So Mvy
- 8:22Speaker 3: was like, it would be good, it would be dope. Actually,
- 8:24Speaker 3: if you could get Diddy to Cosan. You go to
- 8:26Speaker 3: shoot some scenes with Didty, I'm like, what are you
- 8:27Speaker 3: talking about? He's like whatever. So we get in there.
- 8:30Speaker 3: I get into the office and he's first thing he
- 8:32Speaker 3: says is why are you always talking about Beyonce? And
- 8:35Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. What are you drinking? It's
- 8:37Speaker 3: like crog ray T. Do you want something? And I'm
- 8:40Speaker 3: like yeah, And then we just broke the ice and
- 8:41Speaker 3: started talking. So the show never went anywhere. Emmy said
- 8:44Speaker 3: it was horribly produced. It was so bad. How old
- 8:46Speaker 3: were you at this time, thirty thirty year early thirties
- 8:54Speaker 3: because yeah, because then yeah, because when I went to
- 9:00Speaker 3: after that, I had my thirty fifth birthday and the
- 9:04Speaker 3: mayor it was like they sent me thirty five birthday
- 9:07Speaker 3: cakes up to the radio station. The mayor gave me
- 9:10Speaker 3: the key to the city and all the things. So
- 9:12Speaker 3: I remember it was.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Thirty so when you left.
- 9:15Speaker 2: So when you started doing weekends on Hot ninety seven,
- 9:17Speaker 2: then you started doing mornings, right you started doing morning
- 9:19Speaker 2: with starring buck Wow, how was that being into that
- 9:22Speaker 2: because they threw you into the mix.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Well, actually before starring Bucklow, remember and before that it
- 9:27Speaker 3: was Steph Lover Kurt Flirt. And they asked me. I
- 9:31Speaker 3: was home in the midst of boxes. I had to
- 9:34Speaker 3: leave my apartment because I could no longer afford that rent.
- 9:37Speaker 3: And I'll never forget Tracy. Our boss then called me
- 9:40Speaker 3: and she's like, what's wrong. Why do you say what
- 9:41Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm like nothing, I'm fine, and she goes, so,
- 9:44Speaker 3: what do you think about joining the morning show? Being
- 9:46Speaker 3: like the girl on the streets, And I was like,
- 9:48Speaker 3: but I didn't want to let her know. I'm like,
- 9:49Speaker 3: it depends how much is it pay? Correct And this
- 9:52Speaker 3: is before the whole replaced Joe Buttensing. This is I'm
- 9:55Speaker 3: coming straight off of weekends making union scale was like
- 9:57Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty dollars per shiit, which is really
- 10:01Speaker 3: nothing to live off of, but I made it work
- 10:04Speaker 3: and now I realized that the record label is like,
- 10:06Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we're done with your project. So that
- 10:10Speaker 3: call changed my life. And then it was me, Steph
- 10:13Speaker 3: and Kurt flirt and I came back one morning and
- 10:16Speaker 3: Steph yelled at me and we wound up having a
- 10:18Speaker 3: fight in the studio. But we didn't know that the
- 10:20Speaker 3: microphones were on, so then the salespeople came running down
- 10:23Speaker 3: the hall to It was crazy. So when we heard
- 10:26Speaker 3: that and Tracy, we knew she was on her way
- 10:28Speaker 3: into the studio. I one of my girlfriends worked in sales,
- 10:32Speaker 3: and she was like, before Tracy can come to you,
- 10:34Speaker 3: go back there and apologize, just to apologize and say
- 10:36Speaker 3: you know you were wrong. And I'm like, but it
- 10:37Speaker 3: wasn't it, she said, trust me. I went in there.
- 10:39Speaker 3: I said, Tracy, I know I was wrong. I apologized
- 10:42Speaker 3: for disrespecting you and the studio like that. I just
- 10:44Speaker 3: got really emotional. So she goes, Okay, Then she called Steph.
- 10:49Speaker 3: Steph goes, what the fuck I can't so Tracy's gonna
- 10:53Speaker 3: calm down. Said, I'm not calming down. So she goes,
- 10:57Speaker 3: you know what, stay home indefinitely, staph. And then that
- 11:01Speaker 3: next Monday, it was me Fatman's Scoop and Kurt Flirt.
- 11:04Speaker 3: She put Scoop in to replace Steph. God rest his soul. Yeah,
- 11:09Speaker 3: it was, it was, and it was in a moment's time.
- 11:11Speaker 3: I had to think quick, listen to my friend Karen
- 11:13Speaker 3: shout out to Quarrant and do that, or else I
- 11:17Speaker 3: could have been the one because her and Steph were friends.
- 11:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Wow yeah.
- 11:20Speaker 1: So then from that transition went from after fat Man's Scoop.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Was Scoop introduced darn Buckwold to Tracy and they they
- 11:27Speaker 3: would wind up taking over his job in mornings. I'm like,
- 11:32Speaker 3: you walked in our competition, but Scoop had that type
- 11:36Speaker 3: of heart. So they got rid of Scoop. And she
- 11:38Speaker 3: told me, Tracy, you better not fucking say nothing because
- 11:42Speaker 3: this like you got to protect yourself and your life.
- 11:45Speaker 3: But I'm getting rid of Scoop and I'm moving him
- 11:47Speaker 3: to overnights and I'm putting you on mornings with Starrn
- 11:50Speaker 3: buck Wilde. Now, mind you. Starn Buckwold used to write
- 11:53Speaker 3: talk shit about me and their little magazine that they
- 11:55Speaker 3: had as an R and B singer. They always talking
- 11:57Speaker 3: about the gap in my mouth and all the things
- 11:59Speaker 3: and I'm like, since when do dude talk about a
- 12:01Speaker 3: woman's feature? But that was them, and so when they
- 12:05Speaker 3: put me together with them, I was, you know my scorpio,
- 12:08Speaker 3: it's always on scorpio. I am, are you twenty second scorpio? Scorpio?
- 12:14Speaker 3: Oh come on, yeah, I'm October okay. But so I
- 12:18Speaker 3: still had an attitude. So he apologized, but it don't matter,
- 12:22Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, And then he used
- 12:24Speaker 3: to talk about everyone, which I understood what he was doing,
- 12:27Speaker 3: but I didn't necessarily want to be a part of
- 12:29Speaker 3: that because I'm still an ARM and B singer trying
- 12:31Speaker 3: to make a comeback and rub hands or shake hands,
- 12:34Speaker 3: and I'm outside at nights or not. You go back
- 12:37Speaker 3: to wherever it is you live. I'm in these streets
- 12:38Speaker 3: and I gotta wow, yes, yeah, And why.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Did you leave that show?
- 12:44Speaker 5: Because I, yes, I had before we get to while
- 12:49Speaker 5: you left, I wanted to ask because it kind of
- 12:50Speaker 5: sets up for that question. So just hearing that background
- 12:53Speaker 5: and knowing about the magazine and you coming in with
- 12:55Speaker 5: attitude of I gotta protect myself, is that why before
- 12:58Speaker 5: you left you chose to protect yourself in this tuition that.
- 13:01Speaker 3: With Aliyah yes, that was the straight disrespect. And it
- 13:03Speaker 3: was too early for the bullshit. And I didn't like
- 13:05Speaker 3: the fact that I knew all morning they were whispering,
- 13:08Speaker 3: so I knew something was browing. It was always something
- 13:10Speaker 3: brewing with the kids, right, but that morning it was
- 13:12Speaker 3: too soon for the bullshit, and I knew she had
- 13:14Speaker 3: just died, so it was And I was like, but
- 13:15Speaker 3: I know they would never like go that far or
- 13:17Speaker 3: what happened.
- 13:18Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:19Speaker 6: Oh, go ahead, you tell.
- 13:20Speaker 3: So Aliah passed away the week before. This was right
- 13:23Speaker 3: before nine to eleven would happen, right, she passed away.
- 13:26Speaker 3: This is tragic because no one girl R and B
- 13:29Speaker 3: young singer had been dying at all. The next week,
- 13:33Speaker 3: starring Buck Wow primarily Star and his assistant Reese, they
- 13:38Speaker 3: decide to reenact her dying on the plane crash, and
- 13:43Speaker 3: they played on the screams and the and the sound
- 13:46Speaker 3: of fire burning like a plane crashing, and I knew
- 13:50Speaker 3: they were up to something like to this day, He goes,
- 13:52Speaker 3: Miss Jones knew, no, you kept it from me, and
- 13:54Speaker 3: you know you didn't tell me what it was. But
- 13:55Speaker 3: when I heard it, I walked out and I said,
- 13:58Speaker 3: I wish you had died in a plane rather than
- 14:00Speaker 3: a Leah. And then Tracy used that. She was like,
- 14:04Speaker 3: you don't wish death on your coworkers and go home
- 14:07Speaker 3: and you cool off and you think about this. Like
- 14:09Speaker 3: she punished me, right, She yelled at me and not
- 14:12Speaker 3: them on the radio. And then an hour later, McDonald's
- 14:17Speaker 3: pulled their money. Bergie King PEPSI, everybody pulled their money.
- 14:21Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Jay Z and Dame
- 14:23Speaker 3: Dash telling them this is what happened. I don't know,
- 14:25Speaker 3: because we don't have social media back then. Word didn't
- 14:27Speaker 3: travel that quickly, but we had a lot of listeners
- 14:30Speaker 3: back then, and everyone that was listening to the starn
- 14:31Speaker 3: Buckwold feat from Miss Jones heard it and knew someone
- 14:34Speaker 3: that heard it. So when the corporation started pulling the money,
- 14:39Speaker 3: bring hello Jones. Is Tracy Tracy the one that just
- 14:42Speaker 3: wanted me to go home and think about it. We
- 14:45Speaker 3: need you back. I have to pull starm Buckwow off
- 14:47Speaker 3: the air. The world everybody's mad, yeah, and we need
- 14:51Speaker 3: you to calm the savage beast that is. And I
- 14:54Speaker 3: did what I was told and went back on air.
- 14:58Speaker 5: There's always been conversation that either Dame or jay Z
- 15:01Speaker 5: either called the station or came to the station or
- 15:03Speaker 5: something like that.
- 15:04Speaker 6: After all that happen.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Probably, and now that all this other stuff is coming
- 15:07Speaker 3: out now years later, I'm sure they probably took her
- 15:10Speaker 3: to breakfast and made the threat that either you get
- 15:12Speaker 3: them off the air or elsewhere, you won't have any
- 15:15Speaker 3: more Rockefeller artists. I'm sure of that. I'm finding out now,
- 15:19Speaker 3: We're all finding out that those type of conversations were had.
- 15:22Speaker 3: You know, Wendy got let go because did he allegedly
- 15:26Speaker 3: called Tracy and said, by the time I get back
- 15:28Speaker 3: in town, she'd better be going, or you won't have
- 15:29Speaker 3: any bad boy artists. But I want to say this
- 15:33Speaker 3: Star was on his way right then of being let
- 15:35Speaker 3: go because the listeners and the corporations would not stop.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Be it not for nine to eleven happening the next week,
- 15:42Speaker 3: he would have been let go. When nine to eleven happened,
- 15:45Speaker 3: everybody forgot about Aleyah, No one gave a damn about
- 15:48Speaker 3: Star war Buck Wild, right, So we got to live
- 15:51Speaker 3: this or he got to live to see another day
- 15:53Speaker 3: under the quiet cloak of let's chill, Let's be easy
- 15:56Speaker 3: for a little while. Let's focus on nine to eleven.
- 15:58Speaker 2: So when they finally left Hot ninety seven and you
- 16:02Speaker 2: were in Philly just right, we got to call a
- 16:05Speaker 2: come back to New York. How was that and how
- 16:07Speaker 2: difficult it was it back then for a woman to
- 16:10Speaker 2: a woman.
- 16:11Speaker 1: To have her own show, especially in mornings.
- 16:13Speaker 3: It was hard when I went there had never been
- 16:15Speaker 3: a woman in mornings in that format of radio in Philadelphia.
- 16:18Speaker 3: But I needed a job because I was fired so
- 16:20Speaker 3: abruptly as soon as things turned around and we forgot
- 16:22Speaker 3: about nine to eleven and everyone's back popping, Star without
- 16:27Speaker 3: me knowing, kicked me off the show and Tracy, I said,
- 16:29Speaker 3: I don't work for him. I worked for you, and
- 16:31Speaker 3: she's like, yeah, but if Star doesn't feel comfortable, she
- 16:33Speaker 3: did never let me know. And I had just gotten
- 16:34Speaker 3: this fabulous apartment at the Renaissance on one sixteenth. The
- 16:36Speaker 3: Lennox was brand new. She knew this, they knew it.
- 16:39Speaker 3: And she goes, well, go talk to him, go beg him,
- 16:42Speaker 3: go beg for your job back. Yeah.
- 16:44Speaker 4: So after she called you and begged you to come
- 16:47Speaker 4: in be the saving grade, yep, turned around. I don't
- 16:51Speaker 4: know what to do now, go and bag him?
- 16:53Speaker 3: Yeah, let me build it back up, let things get normalized,
- 16:56Speaker 3: let the sponsors come back on. Then she let him
- 16:59Speaker 3: kick me off the show. And he only wanted me
- 17:01Speaker 3: off the show because I was never going to be
- 17:03Speaker 3: the Robin Quivers. He wanted to be Howard Stern a lot.
- 17:05Speaker 3: That was his style and whatever. But Robin Quivers, to me,
- 17:09Speaker 3: never really had a position. If she did, she never
- 17:11Speaker 3: stood up to Haward Stern. That ain't me. That was
- 17:14Speaker 3: just not me. So maybe I should have just been
- 17:17Speaker 3: a laugh track and I would have kept that job.
- 17:19Speaker 3: But thankfully I was able to go to Philly be
- 17:22Speaker 3: the first woman. I didn't know I was being the
- 17:24Speaker 3: first woman. I just knew I needed a job, and
- 17:26Speaker 3: anybody got time to think about, oh my god, what
- 17:28Speaker 3: am I going to say? Well, just getting there and
- 17:29Speaker 3: do and so I I did that. And now apparently
- 17:34Speaker 3: they think I enjoyed doing that because I'm by myself
- 17:36Speaker 3: at the block talking to myself and Wayne, my producer.
- 17:40Speaker 3: But so yeah, it worked out. It worked out for
- 17:43Speaker 3: times like this where companies can't afford to have a
- 17:46Speaker 3: fully staffed breakfast club.
- 17:48Speaker 1: So then you came back.
- 17:49Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, wait, don't let's stay in Philly real quick,
- 17:53Speaker 5: because you going to Philly.
- 17:54Speaker 6: Was Wendy Williams giving you a call?
- 17:55Speaker 3: So I called wend Wendy called me. I think she
- 17:58Speaker 3: called me.
- 17:58Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard I've seen any where you said.
- 18:00Speaker 5: She called you because she heard what was happening. Wendy
- 18:07Speaker 5: Williams info Angie Martinez, You guys are like the pinnacle
- 18:10Speaker 5: of like if I could have a radio career on
- 18:13Speaker 5: her mind, it is that. So I enjoy all your interview,
- 18:17Speaker 5: especially your drink Tins interview. I've watched it a couple
- 18:18Speaker 5: of times.
- 18:19Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for carrying the torch and getting
- 18:22Speaker 3: in there and getting no stories. Because I pay attention
- 18:24Speaker 3: to you too, I'd be like this, like what, thank you.
- 18:27Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and I.
- 18:27Speaker 3: Appreciate you still having the love of it. So Wendy
- 18:30Speaker 3: call Jones because she always had to sneak to call
- 18:32Speaker 3: me because her husband, Kevin later would try to have
- 18:35Speaker 3: me murdered in front of ninety seven. That's a whole
- 18:37Speaker 3: nother story.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Child, hold on, damn.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Put you something to drink.
- 18:46Speaker 1: But but that was paging the paper. But we'll get
- 18:49Speaker 1: into that later. It's a lot, Child, been.
- 18:51Speaker 3: So much, I don't even know how I'm still staying
- 18:53Speaker 3: the child.
- 18:53Speaker 1: What they call again?
- 18:55Speaker 3: Call yes, she said, I heard what's going on? Called
- 18:57Speaker 3: Golden Boy who was then doing more or the PD
- 19:01Speaker 3: for Power ninety nine, and call Luscious Ice over at
- 19:07Speaker 3: the Beat. I didn't know either of these people, but
- 19:09Speaker 3: I needed a job, so I called Luscious Ice responded quickly,
- 19:16Speaker 3: and in a couple of weeks I had the position.
- 19:19Speaker 3: I didn't know anyone in Philadelphia except for Charlie Baltimore
- 19:22Speaker 3: and thank God for Chuck. She took me under her wings.
- 19:25Speaker 3: She sat and with me on my first week and
- 19:28Speaker 3: introduced me to people, told me kind of we're at
- 19:31Speaker 3: a party where not the party, but to stay away from.
- 19:34Speaker 3: And Derek Coleman he called from the Sixers and we
- 19:38Speaker 3: went to Syracuse together. He helped me find my apartment
- 19:41Speaker 3: and he just was being a real big brother to
- 19:43Speaker 3: me when I got to Philadelphia. But it was very
- 19:46Speaker 3: rewarding because when I got to that station, they were
- 19:49Speaker 3: like number of fifty in the ratings. They had no
- 19:52Speaker 3: signal and they had little resources, and I brought them
- 19:56Speaker 3: to number three in three months.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Wow.
- 19:59Speaker 3: So for me that was self what self? It was?
- 20:07Speaker 3: Because I still had the hurt of did I mean
- 20:10Speaker 3: that little to the Star and Bucklow show that they
- 20:12Speaker 3: think that they could just throw me out, And then
- 20:15Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, maybe I ain't shit.
- 20:17Speaker 4: And then you go somewhere and you revamp it, you
- 20:21Speaker 4: replenish it, and then you make it a whole.
- 20:22Speaker 3: New thing, and you just I just bought the same thing,
- 20:25Speaker 3: and they were happy to have the same old thing
- 20:27Speaker 3: that they had discarded in Hot ninety seven. Right, they
- 20:29Speaker 3: were happy to have me. They were coming to my
- 20:31Speaker 3: grown folks Fridays, which I created. By the way they
- 20:34Speaker 3: were coming. It was everything I did in Philly. I
- 20:36Speaker 3: love Philly so much because they gave me what my
- 20:39Speaker 3: soul needed without being paid or without yeah, without being
- 20:43Speaker 3: paid to do so. They showed up for me and
- 20:46Speaker 3: at that time in my life, they gave me the
- 20:48Speaker 3: confidence I needed to stand in being the only woman
- 20:52Speaker 3: doing morning radios like that. And then it was so
- 20:54Speaker 3: gratifying when Hot ninety seven had to call me back
- 20:57Speaker 3: to save that ass.
- 20:59Speaker 6: So now we're getting jest. You want to ask her
- 21:01Speaker 6: about the front page with a.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Year So.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Somebody trying to have you killed?
- 21:07Speaker 3: Oh of Kevin, Wendy William's husband. According to the court documents,
- 21:12Speaker 3: I was saying, okay, break.
- 21:13Speaker 4: It down, allegedly breaking down allegedly.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Suppose, Well, Kevin never liked me and Wendy's friendship. And
- 21:19Speaker 3: I think it's because when Wendy introduced me to Kevin,
- 21:21Speaker 3: when she very first met him, he and I were
- 21:23Speaker 3: sitting in the car together because she had gone in
- 21:24Speaker 3: the store to get some gum, and we had a
- 21:26Speaker 3: conversation and I told him to take care of my friend,
- 21:28Speaker 3: and he goes, no, when she makes it, I'm gonna
- 21:30Speaker 3: make it, I'm gonna take care of her. I didn't
- 21:31Speaker 3: like that. I didn't like that. What you mean, when
- 21:33Speaker 3: she becomes a star, you're gonna be right there. I
- 21:34Speaker 3: didn't like that. And maybe it was harmless, but no,
- 21:37Speaker 3: it's not, because look how it ended up. So I
- 21:40Speaker 3: knew and he knew. You know, when your boyfriend, when
- 21:43Speaker 3: a boy a bad boyfriend, knows that girl friend that
- 21:46Speaker 3: sees him for what he is. He tried to keep
- 21:48Speaker 3: her away, and Wendy was so happy to have a
- 21:51Speaker 3: Bulge because remember back in the day when she used
- 21:53Speaker 3: to be in the studio, she acts like she had
- 21:55Speaker 3: a security guard named Bulge, and she'd be like, Bulge,
- 21:57Speaker 3: close the door, let me tell you about total bulge.
- 22:00Speaker 3: There was never a bald Kevin. Well. Later on she
- 22:03Speaker 3: married Kevin and then he became her bulge right a protection.
- 22:08Speaker 3: So when he told her not to talk to me,
- 22:10Speaker 3: she used to sneak to talk to me, and so yeah,
- 22:13Speaker 3: and so it would come out later on when she
- 22:15Speaker 3: made her return to New York on nine to eleven,
- 22:19Speaker 3: two weeks after the whole Alia thing happened, Kevin didn't
- 22:22Speaker 3: want her having any part to me. And I guess
- 22:24Speaker 3: it got to the point because I wasn't backing down
- 22:27Speaker 3: at that point she was start saying slick stuff about
- 22:29Speaker 3: me on Aaron. I was started saying stuff back. For
- 22:31Speaker 3: many years, I did nothing, but I was tired of
- 22:34Speaker 3: being a punk ass bitch and so I started saying
- 22:37Speaker 3: stuff back and he went to silence me. And so
- 22:39Speaker 3: in the court documents when they're intern, Nicole I think
- 22:41Speaker 3: was her name, sued them. She came out and testified
- 22:45Speaker 3: that he attempted to have a murder plot placed on
- 22:48Speaker 3: Miss Jones. Now three years ago, when me and Wendy
- 22:51Speaker 3: Williams reunited, I think this was twenty twenty two, twenty
- 22:54Speaker 3: twenty two, we started hanging out. I'm spending the night
- 22:57Speaker 3: at her house. She's driving all the way out to
- 22:59Speaker 3: Manalop into my house. You still have the ring camera
- 23:01Speaker 3: as evidence. She told me. She goes, oh, as far
- 23:05Speaker 3: as keV trying to have you murdered. He was just playing.
- 23:08Speaker 3: He didn't mean it. But that doesn't mean he didn't
- 23:10Speaker 3: say it, And that doesn't mean that someone who is
- 23:12Speaker 3: trying to be in his graces. We see people now
- 23:16Speaker 3: shooting and killing people because they think they're doing something
- 23:19Speaker 3: in the spirit of I got her, I got her.
- 23:22Speaker 3: So how are you playing? How you shooting?
- 23:25Speaker 6: How do you feel right now about this?
- 23:31Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:32Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thanks, thank you because I almost missed it regularly.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Oh my god. So she gets back to New York.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Wait, I was gonna, I was going that was my life,
- 23:51Speaker 3: that was our life.
- 23:52Speaker 6: I was going to ask you.
- 23:54Speaker 5: We went off to dinner with Wendy and she said
- 23:55Speaker 5: that she feels like what she's going through right now
- 23:57Speaker 5: is because of all of the things that she said,
- 24:00Speaker 5: the things that have happened because of her karma, right,
- 24:03Speaker 5: She said that, Yeah, she told me, Charlotte mage Dade,
- 24:05Speaker 5: that's the first steps.
- 24:08Speaker 3: I feel like God was waiting for that. I feel
- 24:11Speaker 3: like when she had the issues with her feet spiritually,
- 24:15Speaker 3: that was God teaching her about kicking people when they're Downah,
- 24:19Speaker 3: I said, of all the body parts to get affected publicly,
- 24:23Speaker 3: be affected because she couldn't hide from that. That is
- 24:26Speaker 3: you and God. Y'all gotta work that out. You gotta
- 24:28Speaker 3: acknowledge that. Despite the fact that Kevin is the one
- 24:31Speaker 3: that gave her the foot surgery, y'all know about that, right,
- 24:35Speaker 3: So he is a foot surgeon. When they first got together,
- 24:38Speaker 3: he was giving her foot surgery for her birthday, and
- 24:41Speaker 3: she went on air because I have the CD, I
- 24:43Speaker 3: have all her things, and so she said, I don't
- 24:46Speaker 3: know if I should be offended or grateful that my
- 24:47Speaker 3: husband get me foot surgery for my birthday. But I'm
- 24:50Speaker 3: researching the doctors and I got an appointment this afternoon,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah blah. So she went and
- 24:54Speaker 3: had the foot surgery to have her bunions removed. Right,
- 24:56Speaker 3: this is many many years ago when this happened, and
- 25:00Speaker 3: when we got back together in twenty twenty two, she
- 25:02Speaker 3: came in the room and woke me up. She said, Johnson,
- 25:04Speaker 3: I want you to look at something. She pulled the
- 25:05Speaker 3: robe up she wear these elongated versace robes. She'd buy
- 25:09Speaker 3: two robes of the same pattern so that her tailor
- 25:12Speaker 3: could cut the bottom and have it long to cover
- 25:15Speaker 3: her legs. So she made me touch it, and she said,
- 25:18Speaker 3: this is limb fidem. I want to have the surgery.
- 25:20Speaker 3: The doctor manipulated the nerve in my feet. My lymph
- 25:23Speaker 3: knows the wrong way. And I said, well, that was
- 25:25Speaker 3: years ago. She said, yeah, but it takes so many
- 25:27Speaker 3: years for it to get like this. And so in
- 25:29Speaker 3: my mind, I'm saying that he had you have that surgery,
- 25:34Speaker 3: so just another way he's tearing you down. Whether he
- 25:37Speaker 3: knew it or I don't think he knew. I think
- 25:38Speaker 3: he really just wanted her to get rid of the bidians.
- 25:40Speaker 3: But love my feet as they ease, Perriod, love all
- 25:44Speaker 3: of that. H don't go.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Changing, right because I got my bunions from my father
- 25:49Speaker 4: and I'm keeping them.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Keep them, just keep on.
- 25:52Speaker 1: And let me just tell y'all.
- 25:53Speaker 2: So when she started doing morning radio in New York,
- 25:55Speaker 2: when I was involved, Jones went through mouth surgery for
- 25:59Speaker 2: too m. She went through childbirth and still did the
- 26:04Speaker 2: show from my hospital bed and from the bed.
- 26:06Speaker 1: At the crib.
- 26:07Speaker 6: The childbirth was when you had the y'all had something
- 26:10Speaker 6: set up where she and this.
- 26:13Speaker 1: Before the stuff that we had. This is like she
- 26:15Speaker 1: had to do it for this like.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Ten thousand, thousand months. The biggest fraud of.
- 26:19Speaker 4: Your ass in there not did you have postpartum depression
- 26:24Speaker 4: or did you go? You just you right?
- 26:27Speaker 3: You know, I had a tsunami song. I was going
- 26:31Speaker 3: to say that that mom saved you, and they tried
- 26:34Speaker 3: to bring it they So I'm glad that I was home.
- 26:38Speaker 3: I know, you know you did the research on this.
- 26:40Speaker 5: Is this your baby right here? That that is Oh wow,
- 26:43Speaker 5: it's so crazy. This is in real time, I know, right,
- 26:45Speaker 5: So now you're hearing about something you brought it in
- 26:48Speaker 5: the tsunami song and working from home. So I was
- 26:50Speaker 5: working from home because Jayden was just born, and it
- 26:53Speaker 5: was hard because I lived still down in the Philly area.
- 26:57Speaker 5: Our producer at the time, they brought in a new
- 26:59Speaker 5: fancy producer, del Gatto, who came from OPI and Anthony Opian.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Anthony was a very racy, charged shock jockey type of show.
- 27:07Speaker 3: They're the ones that had the couple having sex in
- 27:09Speaker 3: the cathedral. So my boss, Tracy decided that bringing Rick
- 27:12Speaker 3: Delgatto to be the producer of the This is when
- 27:14Speaker 3: she asked me to come back to New York would
- 27:16Speaker 3: be a great idea. So then as soon as he
- 27:18Speaker 3: comes in, they let her go and he starts just
- 27:21Speaker 3: letting loose. So he comes up with this idea to
- 27:23Speaker 3: do a tsunami song because the tsunami had just happened.
- 27:25Speaker 3: But when the ish hit the fan people were pissed off,
- 27:30Speaker 3: and rightfully so, but they tried to spin it. Our
- 27:33Speaker 3: boss at the time, Barry Mao, he came in actually
- 27:37Speaker 3: when the Tsunami song first aired and high fived, I
- 27:40Speaker 3: have to say allegedly because he'll suit allegedly high fived
- 27:43Speaker 3: and was like, that's a crazy song. You guys are crazy,
- 27:46Speaker 3: laughing all the way. But then when the corporation started
- 27:49Speaker 3: McDonald's Pepsi Burgy King, they come and take their money
- 27:53Speaker 3: again because who is this Miss Jones woman that has
- 27:55Speaker 3: this tasteless tsunami song that's making fun of Asians and
- 27:59Speaker 3: all the things things. He didn't even tell them. The
- 28:03Speaker 3: name of the show is Miss Jones in the Morning,
- 28:04Speaker 3: but Miss Jones hasn't even been in the studio to
- 28:07Speaker 3: sing on a tsunami song. Or push a button to
- 28:10Speaker 3: make it play right, so but no one wanted to
- 28:13Speaker 3: hear that. He was trying to quickly get me out
- 28:16Speaker 3: the door. Out the door. Thank god for Melsachs attorney Malsacks,
- 28:20Speaker 3: the one that will later on represent Little Kima. We
- 28:22Speaker 3: had a meeting with him and he had the head
- 28:24Speaker 3: of the Asian their coalition or some organization, and he
- 28:28Speaker 3: had them come in behind closed doors. Was after hours,
- 28:31Speaker 3: and they said, listen, we know that it ain't you.
- 28:34Speaker 3: We know that it's the company. My beef is that
- 28:37Speaker 3: the owner of Hot ninety seven had some shady dealers
- 28:40Speaker 3: with my dad years ago when my dad wound up
- 28:42Speaker 3: going to prison. Like it always be something else. It's
- 28:44Speaker 3: never you know just what is in front of you
- 28:48Speaker 3: now it always be something bigger than you. But they
- 28:51Speaker 3: were willing to let me be sacrificed, knowing good and well,
- 28:54Speaker 3: I couldn't have sung on a Snami song. I wasn't
- 28:56Speaker 3: even there. My fault was insisting that to be played again.
- 29:01Speaker 3: That was the arrogance of me and the ego of me,
- 29:04Speaker 3: And I was only doing that because we had a
- 29:06Speaker 3: member on our show at that time that was trying
- 29:08Speaker 3: to separate herself from the messiness that was to show,
- 29:14Speaker 3: And in hindsight, I understand that, but I just I
- 29:17Speaker 3: always like team to be team for the audience. Yeah,
- 29:20Speaker 3: y'all could fight, pull each other's hair out, scratch each
- 29:23Speaker 3: other's eyes out behind the scenes, but we always must
- 29:27Speaker 3: appear to be a team, and she wasn't doing it.
- 29:29Speaker 3: So that's what my answer to that was, We'll play
- 29:31Speaker 3: it again. Stupid, stupid, Jonesy Stupid. To this day, I regret.
- 29:36Speaker 6: That I feel like I'm asking all the questions.
- 29:40Speaker 3: You did, all the research going on, because you have
- 29:43Speaker 3: so much.
- 29:43Speaker 5: Because well, first of all, I wanted to know if
- 29:45Speaker 5: you and Wendy have spoken recently.
- 29:47Speaker 3: No, she has not spun my block, but she's spoken
- 29:50Speaker 3: to you. But you know what, I think somebody took
- 29:53Speaker 3: my number out of her phone because you don't have
- 29:56Speaker 3: started and then there.
- 29:58Speaker 6: Would you speak to her now?
- 29:59Speaker 3: Absolutely, we had good times when we reconnected. We was
- 30:01Speaker 3: going to Carolines. We were the night we went to Carolines,
- 30:06Speaker 3: Angela Yee and her friends were sitting at the table
- 30:08Speaker 3: next to us, and I told Wendy and she was like,
- 30:13Speaker 3: don't act like you're telling me. It's like she's so
- 30:15Speaker 3: shady now. But angel was trying to insist that Wendy
- 30:19Speaker 3: come up and take a picture on the stage, and
- 30:21Speaker 3: I was trying to not tell that Wendy couldn't get up,
- 30:24Speaker 3: so I don't wanted to give her hippoprivacy but her feet.
- 30:26Speaker 3: But then the next day, Angela Yee's friend, who was
- 30:30Speaker 3: writing for the poster or the something the page six,
- 30:33Speaker 3: wrote that Wendy refused to take pictures with Angela Yee
- 30:36Speaker 3: and Jonesy, and I'm like, we were we were together
- 30:39Speaker 3: number one, and she couldn't get on the stage because
- 30:42Speaker 3: her feet would not allow her. But then I realized
- 30:44Speaker 3: the angle of the camera. They were sneaking pictures of
- 30:46Speaker 3: us from underneath their table. So now my Wendy knew.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Wendy knew.
- 30:50Speaker 6: When was that? When year was that?
- 30:52Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two? Twenty Yeah, I think it was twenty
- 30:55Speaker 3: twenty two. You remember, because we were doing a reunion
- 30:57Speaker 3: show and she tormented me and you were like, my phone,
- 31:00Speaker 3: I don't care what time of the night this is.
- 31:01Speaker 2: If you need me to come get yep, absolutely talk
- 31:04Speaker 2: about that. So then you left Hot ninety seven and
- 31:07Speaker 2: you could ask questions about that because that was craziness.
- 31:10Speaker 2: We left Hot ninety seven. We left and we were
- 31:11Speaker 2: beefing with everybody at that time.
- 31:13Speaker 3: He was social media.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Yeah, we were social media. We beef. What people don't understand.
- 31:17Speaker 2: Is back then it was real beef, like we came
- 31:20Speaker 2: up to parties, clubs, stations.
- 31:22Speaker 4: It was really private.
- 31:23Speaker 2: Yes, you leave Hot ninety seven, you decide not to
- 31:27Speaker 2: do Hot ninety seven again, and you go back into
- 31:28Speaker 2: Philly and you had a run in Philly, and then
- 31:30Speaker 2: Philly let you go wrongly.
- 31:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I would realize that the only reason Philly was
- 31:35Speaker 3: syndicating me from Hot ninety seven is because they didn't
- 31:38Speaker 3: want me to come back into the market on Power
- 31:40Speaker 3: ninety nine because powerdat nine always had resources Hey, thea
- 31:44Speaker 3: Hey and THEO who always loved me, and they didn't
- 31:47Speaker 3: want to get to Milish, So when they knew I
- 31:49Speaker 3: could not be a threat, they let me go. That
- 31:52Speaker 3: was again Barry Mayo, the man that brought me back
- 31:54Speaker 3: to New York, syndicated me in Philadelphia because when they
- 31:56Speaker 3: fired him, really behind the Tsunami song, he went back
- 31:59Speaker 3: to Radio one and got a job in Philly and
- 32:01Speaker 3: asked me to be syndicated. Right now, think about it
- 32:04Speaker 3: if I did all this tsunami song stuff and you
- 32:06Speaker 3: were ready to fire my ass, why are you hiring
- 32:09Speaker 3: me back? Which just holds me what the judges would say,
- 32:11Speaker 3: because I wound up suing everyone.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Jones is suerr by the way, she will sue you
- 32:14Speaker 1: in a minute. But so.
- 32:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I see over here living all morning. I'd be like,
- 32:22Speaker 3: I'm so excited, So Philly keep us on the guard rails.
- 32:26Speaker 5: And because he was in Philly at the time, was
- 32:28Speaker 5: it Golden Girl? Like what era of Philly radio was
- 32:30Speaker 5: its Golden Girl?
- 32:31Speaker 3: It was the hotways on Power ninety nine. Golden Girl
- 32:33Speaker 3: was at night. She was always trying to nip at
- 32:35Speaker 3: my heels and I'm.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Like, shoot at everybody, but she's well they.
- 32:40Speaker 2: To this day, Jones will called me and be like,
- 32:43Speaker 2: I'm about to go in and I have to talk
- 32:44Speaker 2: off the ledge at our big.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Because you don't stand up for yourself enough.
- 32:48Speaker 6: See talk about that, would you right?
- 32:51Speaker 3: What you mean? No MVB trying to take high rolls.
- 32:54Speaker 3: He's petty. It's all petty. But then when it's time
- 32:57Speaker 3: for him, when you got them it's time to kill,
- 32:59Speaker 3: he'll fall back because I guess he thinks about the
- 33:01Speaker 3: potential lawsuits and his easy prey and.
- 33:06Speaker 1: If something go in before me, I know, Jones, but.
- 33:10Speaker 3: Will burn the whole house down.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Crazy good exact scene. So when I went live, they
- 33:16Speaker 4: can understand. It's sometimes and I ain't a scoop you,
- 33:19Speaker 4: I'm an aquarius. Oh but I just went live that
- 33:22Speaker 4: day and but you had to. I didn't know if
- 33:25Speaker 4: I was gonna have a job the next day, Jonesy,
- 33:27Speaker 4: That's what I did. I came to hear my bank
- 33:29Speaker 4: still works, and.
- 33:31Speaker 3: Then I caught. I was like, tell me, this is scripted.
- 33:34Speaker 6: Everybody thought it was fake.
- 33:35Speaker 4: He can't listen.
- 33:37Speaker 3: It was real.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Let me tell you though, when it bothered me the
- 33:42Speaker 4: most that I hurt his feelings, right, because Envy is
- 33:47Speaker 4: very loyal, right, although I still, you know, I I
- 33:52Speaker 4: still felt like, you know, I wasn't heard and I
- 33:54Speaker 4: felt like, you know, things were done wrong. He has
- 33:58Speaker 4: had my back since I started this ship. I'm talking
- 34:01Speaker 4: about like calling me, checking on me before my pregnancy,
- 34:05Speaker 4: my whole pregnancy, after I had the baby, everything, So
- 34:08Speaker 4: I understood, like him coming and heared no, it was wet,
- 34:12Speaker 4: it was corny, and I'm like, hold up, don't say
- 34:14Speaker 4: it with the New York accident, and that's what made
- 34:19Speaker 4: me cry. And I'm just like.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Because you knew there was a little bit of truth
- 34:22Speaker 3: in that.
- 34:23Speaker 4: Big brother a big brother spanking and like, no, would
- 34:27Speaker 4: not make eye contact with me when I look at
- 34:29Speaker 4: me when I talk to me, and I don't like,
- 34:33Speaker 4: I did not like that, you know what I mean.
- 34:35Speaker 4: But it was like what I did, I felt like
- 34:37Speaker 4: needed to be done, but definitely maybe a different way.
- 34:41Speaker 4: He's not professional, but it was just like, but.
- 34:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, and I'm sorry that you went through
- 34:49Speaker 3: that on air, but that made you humanize because you
- 34:53Speaker 3: have this tough persona and you always have a comeback
- 34:57Speaker 3: and I love that about you. But people need to
- 34:59Speaker 3: know that you still bleed too. Yeah, and they got
- 35:02Speaker 3: to see that, so well done.
- 35:04Speaker 4: So yes, he definitely is the one that, Yeah, he
- 35:07Speaker 4: go hard and everything, but like he do, he makes
- 35:10Speaker 4: sensible decisions and you can trust because.
- 35:12Speaker 3: He's never going to let you lose it all, although
- 35:16Speaker 3: he almost lost it all from me. So when I
- 35:19Speaker 3: came back to New York after I had had my son,
- 35:21Speaker 3: Jalen Sterron Buck, Wow, at this point they were over
- 35:23Speaker 3: here and they went on air asking anyone at the
- 35:27Speaker 3: hospital where I had my son to send his medical
- 35:29Speaker 3: records because he was down syndrome.
- 35:32Speaker 1: He's not down syndrome, as you can see, guys.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with down syndrome. We love that. But the
- 35:44Speaker 3: point is he was just born, you know what I mean,
- 35:48Speaker 3: and he's asking for medical records.
- 35:49Speaker 4: Right.
- 35:50Speaker 3: This man right here stood up for me on the air.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Envy stood up for me. The company told him, Ebro,
- 35:57Speaker 3: I'm a big Zach told him, don't do that. Don't
- 35:59Speaker 3: mention the the station. They're still playing those old radio games.
- 36:02Speaker 3: We don't mention the other station on air. So so
- 36:05Speaker 3: Envy jumped in. He got so that same experience you
- 36:08Speaker 3: have with Envy, that little passion he got. So he
- 36:11Speaker 3: got more angry than I was, because I had gone
- 36:13Speaker 3: to Jalen's father and I was like, what are we
- 36:15Speaker 3: gonna do about it? I went to the uncle's Oh,
- 36:17Speaker 3: just ignore it. Envy said, f that. So he said
- 36:20Speaker 3: a man that will go after a woman and a
- 36:22Speaker 3: newborn and a man at all. And then Starr went
- 36:25Speaker 3: in on Envy's kids, and so Envy and his wife
- 36:29Speaker 3: heki Hey, they took that ass to quietly, took him
- 36:32Speaker 3: to court and want all that money and I want
- 36:35Speaker 3: my cut her.
- 36:40Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 36:42Speaker 1: Yeah, before I don't I lose it.
- 36:51Speaker 3: It was so bad. It was so bad because there
- 36:54Speaker 3: was nothing that this company could do but fire him.
- 36:58Speaker 3: But it all started because Star was coming for me.
- 37:01Speaker 4: And his loyalty for kids, Like what.
- 37:05Speaker 3: That kids weren't off. It's kind of like how America
- 37:07Speaker 3: is right now. We're so desensitized to school shootings, We're
- 37:10Speaker 3: so desensitized to so many things. We're like, why is
- 37:13Speaker 3: this happening? And yet it continues to happen. I don't
- 37:16Speaker 3: want to get political in here, but it feels like
- 37:18Speaker 3: we're back there where he just thought he could say
- 37:21Speaker 3: and do anything, and thankfully there was a judge that
- 37:24Speaker 3: shut it down. And I'm glad I had you as
- 37:25Speaker 3: a big brother friend.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll do it again.
- 37:28Speaker 4: Damn he would, and.
- 37:30Speaker 6: It'd be louder, and he would use Instagram as he
- 37:33Speaker 6: is big bro.
- 37:33Speaker 2: So now you know, when Jones goes back to Philly
- 37:36Speaker 2: leaves Hot ninety seven, I was like you me and
- 37:39Speaker 2: miss Jones right, meaning I was mad because I'm like,
- 37:41Speaker 2: how she just gonna leave us in Philly. We've been
- 37:43Speaker 2: doing this show for three four years. And I was
- 37:46Speaker 2: mad at Jones. And I don't think I spoke to
- 37:47Speaker 2: Jones for like two years, three.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Years, right, I don't know you were mad at me.
- 37:50Speaker 1: We just speak maybe for five months.
- 37:52Speaker 3: No, Envy, that's not true.
- 37:53Speaker 1: I had to be long enough for a minute.
- 37:55Speaker 3: No, we spoke because I was at Power ninety nine
- 37:58Speaker 3: and Doc Winner had them conference calls. You were on it,
- 38:01Speaker 3: I was on it, and we were talking and we
- 38:04Speaker 3: didn't talk personally, but we were always on those conference calls.
- 38:08Speaker 3: So I had no idea you were mad because I
- 38:10Speaker 3: thought I did infight you to come to Philly, and
- 38:11Speaker 3: you said you had money in the clubs.
- 38:14Speaker 2: So I thought I was coming. I thought we was
- 38:15Speaker 2: gang gang. Yeah, she eyed your deuces and left, so
- 38:18Speaker 2: I was always mad. I'm like, damn, so I had
- 38:20Speaker 2: to start over.
- 38:21Speaker 3: But sorry, wait wait, wait, no, bring it back rewind.
- 38:25Speaker 3: I am sorry because I wanted you. I don't Maybe
- 38:29Speaker 3: I didn't come to you directly. Maybe I knew I
- 38:32Speaker 3: couldn't afford you, so maybe I asked somebody in the team.
- 38:35Speaker 3: Do you think I should ask Envy because he's not
- 38:37Speaker 3: gonna come. I can't afford to pay him. But I
- 38:40Speaker 3: thought I.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Did different free.
- 38:42Speaker 2: So when COVID hit, I haven't spoke to Jones and
- 38:45Speaker 2: you was watching the own network, you.
- 38:47Speaker 3: And your wife, and I did not know this. Jack
- 38:50Speaker 3: and Joe Mom called and said, I had no idea
- 38:52Speaker 3: your Miss Jones, because I had created a new life
- 38:54Speaker 3: for myself. Once I got fired in Philly the last,
- 38:56Speaker 3: the third time, the last time, I couldn't have I
- 39:01Speaker 3: couldn't mess around anymore. So I separated myself from the industry.
- 39:04Speaker 3: I couldn't listen to radio. It made me bleed.
- 39:07Speaker 1: To hear radio industry stuff at all.
- 39:09Speaker 3: Nothing. I changed my name. I started using my married name,
- 39:13Speaker 3: just so that no one could trace Miss Jones back
- 39:16Speaker 3: to me and that my kids would have a shame
- 39:18Speaker 3: free upbringing, you know, so I was I was not
- 39:24Speaker 3: doing that. So one of my Jack and Jail Mom
- 39:26Speaker 3: shot out to Jack and Jail of America called and said,
- 39:28Speaker 3: I didn't know that was you, and I said, we
- 39:30Speaker 3: took about and then she said there's a program on
- 39:32Speaker 3: own DJ MVY and his wife just said that were
- 39:34Speaker 3: it not for you giving her husband a starting radio,
- 39:36Speaker 3: he wouldn't be where he is. And I broke down
- 39:39Speaker 3: crying because I hadn't spoken or heard from him in years,
- 39:41Speaker 3: and I was angry because I felt like he's doing well.
- 39:45Speaker 3: The other call hosts, everybody's doing well. They started on
- 39:48Speaker 3: my show, and no one has reached out a hand
- 39:50Speaker 3: to even see if my kids had Christmas, if everybody
- 39:52Speaker 3: was doing okay or nothing. I was upset, but that
- 39:56Speaker 3: gave me the to get outside of my ego, to
- 40:00Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call and say hey, can
- 40:02Speaker 3: we talk? And he was like, hey, Jones was he.
- 40:04Speaker 4: Was very yeah, you were very yeah. Yeah.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Maybe crying here make me cry, so I can't look
- 40:17Speaker 2: at it out. So during COVID, she was telling me
- 40:19Speaker 2: what she was going through. She left the industry, she.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Didn't want to do radio anymore. She was fine just
- 40:24Speaker 1: being a mom. She had two boys.
- 40:26Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, be, I'm like, I don't think
- 40:29Speaker 2: you understand what you bring.
- 40:31Speaker 1: So I said, this is what we're gonna do. Let's
- 40:33Speaker 1: create a reunion show.
- 40:35Speaker 2: We use my platform to push it, and I guarantee
- 40:38Speaker 2: you a program director will call you. Then I say that,
- 40:41Speaker 2: and then what happened in a couple of months.
- 40:43Speaker 4: I'm crying.
- 40:46Speaker 3: I know alone.
- 40:49Speaker 6: I mean, we don't, we don't know.
- 40:50Speaker 5: You're height of it me and Jess, but like, you
- 40:52Speaker 5: know what it's like to be dealing with.
- 40:54Speaker 3: It and being alone and feeling alone. And I felt
- 40:58Speaker 3: so alone all the time that I became him numb
- 41:00Speaker 3: to It just felt like it was always going to
- 41:02Speaker 3: be me and just me and'sally because in this I
- 41:06Speaker 3: think people look at you.
- 41:07Speaker 6: It's like you had a career. People think you're doing well.
- 41:09Speaker 6: You just don't know what.
- 41:10Speaker 3: People Some people think that you're so resilient that she's
- 41:13Speaker 3: not back because she doesn't choose to be back. Looking her,
- 41:15Speaker 3: she's out there being football mom, wrestling mom, pta mom.
- 41:17Speaker 3: She doesn't want to come back into the industry, and
- 41:19Speaker 3: God bless her because the industry is poisoned. Not knowing
- 41:23Speaker 3: I would have enjoyed, you know, having a stable check. Yeah,
- 41:28Speaker 3: and I was sick and I had multiple more surgeries
- 41:30Speaker 3: with the tumor, which is I want to say it's gone.
- 41:35Speaker 3: It may never leave me completely, but I had I
- 41:37Speaker 3: had been diagnosed with amelia blastoma since I was child
- 41:40Speaker 3: and was told I would never sing or have a
- 41:42Speaker 3: career that required speaking, which is why God is just
- 41:46Speaker 3: so miraculous right and wonderful.
- 41:49Speaker 2: But can I can I talk about the surveys.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Yes, this is what made me cry.
- 41:56Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, so for Jones to make money, she would
- 42:05Speaker 7: do surveys.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Should go home on the wig.
- 42:12Speaker 2: And do the survey again, then go home, put on
- 42:14Speaker 2: another wig and do the survey again.
- 42:16Speaker 1: So you had three different yes to get paid to do.
- 42:19Speaker 1: Oh sorry.
- 42:22Speaker 3: Baby, at this point you had to feed your baby. Yeah,
- 42:25Speaker 3: he's learning. Cry till we all crying. We're not We're
- 42:33Speaker 3: not going down after all of that time, and I'm back.
- 42:39Speaker 2: So she would do the surveys to pay the bills
- 42:41Speaker 2: and rent and to get food, and she would change
- 42:44Speaker 2: the wigs.
- 42:46Speaker 4: And although it's humor in it and you know now
- 42:51Speaker 4: or whatever, but like you were doing what you could
- 42:54Speaker 4: do to take care of your baby, well you're not,
- 42:56Speaker 4: and to pay your bills.
- 42:58Speaker 6: Right, but do you know that feeling?
- 43:02Speaker 4: So it's like.
- 43:05Speaker 3: I just wanted like for me, My kids did not
- 43:08Speaker 3: ask to be born to me. Yeah, so why should
- 43:12Speaker 3: they have to suffer and go without what their classmates
- 43:14Speaker 3: have because of my reckless mouth or poor decisions. And
- 43:20Speaker 3: the last go round, I was accused of doing something
- 43:23Speaker 3: that I didn't do and didn't even bother to investigate
- 43:26Speaker 3: whether or not I did it and a woman that
- 43:28Speaker 3: accused me, who they paid millions of dollars to and
- 43:31Speaker 3: they fired me. She wound up going to prison and
- 43:34Speaker 3: then they found out that I wasn't lying and that
- 43:36Speaker 3: she had frauded them. And then but at that point,
- 43:39Speaker 3: your name is mud you were You're blacklisted and black balled,
- 43:44Speaker 3: and no one wants to hire you. So you have
- 43:46Speaker 3: to do what you have to do. And those surveys
- 43:49Speaker 3: like real talk. I like still do. So this just
- 43:58Speaker 3: want your opinion on do you like this freshion eary?
- 44:01Speaker 3: Do you like that one that's easy to money?
- 44:05Speaker 1: This is crazy? So listen.
- 44:07Speaker 2: So if we start doing the podcast and within in
- 44:10Speaker 2: about three weeks, she gets a call, right somebody, a
- 44:12Speaker 2: program director from down South, offers her a job.
- 44:15Speaker 1: She goes, MVY, what should I do?
- 44:17Speaker 2: I said you should wait, and she goes, why are
- 44:18Speaker 2: they gonna give me a deal?
- 44:19Speaker 1: This that to the other.
- 44:20Speaker 2: I said, you're not from down there, this is your town.
- 44:24Speaker 2: This is where you're from. I said, somebody from New
- 44:26Speaker 2: York was gonna call you. She's like, you think another
- 44:29Speaker 2: month later, you got the call from New.
- 44:30Speaker 3: York, but no, but I'm in the phone store buying
- 44:33Speaker 3: a phone I remember because Envy calls and goes, oh,
- 44:36Speaker 3: you're keeping secrets, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
- 44:38Speaker 3: Because remember I'm doing the podcast, but I'm still in
- 44:42Speaker 3: the no one still knows. So so he goes, rumor
- 44:47Speaker 3: has it that there's a new nineties station about to
- 44:50Speaker 3: open up in New York this afternoon, and that Ed
- 44:52Speaker 3: Lover is going to be doing mornings and you're slated
- 44:54Speaker 3: to do afternoons. And I was like, what. He goes,
- 44:57Speaker 3: you're not listening to the radio, mind you, you still can't.
- 45:00Speaker 3: So sure enough I get a call and it's true,
- 45:04Speaker 3: but it wasn't. They didn't know well, they know it
- 45:07Speaker 3: was Nick Cannon and they were still building. And it
- 45:11Speaker 3: took about a good year and a half of me
- 45:13Speaker 3: meeting with Skip and Chris to convince them that the
- 45:19Speaker 3: Jonesy that they're hearing about, or the Jonesy that they
- 45:22Speaker 3: once knew that was doing shock jock stuff, has matured,
- 45:25Speaker 3: has children, has reasons to not come and destroy your
- 45:28Speaker 3: radio station, sir and say reckless stuff to cause us
- 45:30Speaker 3: all lose our jobs, right, And ultimately that really was
- 45:34Speaker 3: who I had grown into. Yeah, I had grown up.
- 45:38Speaker 3: I had grown up, and so it was I felt
- 45:42Speaker 3: like for me because the radio station dropped on my birthday.
- 45:46Speaker 3: That's me and God's thing. He knows when he does
- 45:48Speaker 3: things on my birthday. Oh, that's for me. So I
- 45:51Speaker 3: hung in their. I did get discouraged along the course
- 45:54Speaker 3: of the way because it was just taking so long.
- 45:56Speaker 3: Every air spot ed lover got the job at night
- 45:59Speaker 3: or after whatever, and mornings were still hanging out there.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Then I'm hearing rumors, Oh, you know, Fat Joe and
- 46:04Speaker 3: Ramy are gonna get it because this is when they
- 46:05Speaker 3: were filling them for Wendy. Yeah, and this one's gonna
- 46:09Speaker 3: get it, and that one's DJ sus one's gonna get it.
- 46:12Speaker 3: Was And then ultimately mister C called me and he said,
- 46:17Speaker 3: who is Gary? And I said an agent that I
- 46:23Speaker 3: that I fired because he was misrepresenting. And he said,
- 46:27Speaker 3: get that man out the way because that's the reason
- 46:30Speaker 3: why they're not hiring you, because they don't want to
- 46:33Speaker 3: deal with him. And I said, but I already let
- 46:36Speaker 3: him go, and he said, well, you need to let
- 46:37Speaker 3: them know. So why let them know? And in fifteen
- 46:41Speaker 3: minutes I had a contract in my inbox.
- 46:42Speaker 4: Period. Wow, going back to what you said is not
- 46:45Speaker 4: always was in front of you. It's some whole other
- 46:47Speaker 4: thing you didn't even know.
- 46:48Speaker 3: I had no idea. First of all, when is the
- 46:51Speaker 3: last time they opened up a new station in New York?
- 46:54Speaker 3: I think it was Power one oh five back in
- 46:56Speaker 3: two thousand and two. Right, who's the that They're going
- 47:00Speaker 3: to start a whole news station in New York and
- 47:02Speaker 3: making nineties and I am the nineties girl? Well, I
- 47:06Speaker 3: want to be boys sugar Hill period. I'm like, this
- 47:09Speaker 3: is too easy, and God, you don't make things easy
- 47:11Speaker 3: for me. A lot of women and maybe men too,
- 47:14Speaker 3: we're so used to fighting and things not happening that
- 47:17Speaker 3: we're always waiting for their other shoe to drop. But
- 47:20Speaker 3: I'm so thankful. I guess that I had nothing to
- 47:23Speaker 3: lose and everything to gain by humbling myself and letting
- 47:26Speaker 3: it happen in their time and in God's time. Because
- 47:29Speaker 3: here I am, and now I feel like God is
- 47:31Speaker 3: moving me up so quickly. Because I did do a
- 47:39Speaker 3: lot of work. When I was home. I got into
- 47:41Speaker 3: the scripture and I would write down my pastor Darius Daniels.
- 47:44Speaker 3: I would write down everything and so I could apply
- 47:47Speaker 3: it whenever I was faced with a challenge because I
- 47:49Speaker 3: don't want to go back to being hot heead Tarsha.
- 47:52Speaker 3: I want to write, and so I was doing the
- 47:54Speaker 3: work and I was applying the work. And even now
- 47:56Speaker 3: I listen to the scripture every morning on my drive
- 47:59Speaker 3: into the block because I don't want the listeners that
- 48:02Speaker 3: God has blessed me with again to be tortured or
- 48:05Speaker 3: tormented with some bullshit that I'm going through, right, because
- 48:07Speaker 3: it's bigger than me, right, and so there's always work
- 48:15Speaker 3: to be done. It never stops. I'm just thankful that
- 48:18Speaker 3: I'm able to sit here with you and you and
- 48:20Speaker 3: you and Charlamagne. You're here in spirit, But thank you
- 48:24Speaker 3: for allowing me and y'all's house because I never imagined
- 48:28Speaker 3: I thought it was over. I thought I was going
- 48:29Speaker 3: to be Jayalen and Chay's mom, and I was happy
- 48:31Speaker 3: being that, right, But as my kids grew older, they
- 48:36Speaker 3: had needs. So I'm glad I'm in position yeah to
- 48:39Speaker 3: meet the needs.
- 48:41Speaker 4: I love you, your story, Thank you everything.
- 48:44Speaker 1: I want to get into some bs to just some
- 48:46Speaker 1: fun bs, if y'all don't mind.
- 48:48Speaker 4: I would.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Ask when she met miss Knowles, when.
- 48:52Speaker 4: Did when did you meet Miss Knowles?
- 48:55Speaker 3: And v why did you say that she told me off.
- 48:58Speaker 3: You know, I want that I get me what happened?
- 49:02Speaker 1: He was arguing with Miss Knowles.
- 49:04Speaker 4: So.
- 49:07Speaker 3: Beyond sy. It was a Friday afternoon and I don't
- 49:10Speaker 3: know why at ninety seven, yes, and the staff was
- 49:13Speaker 3: trying to rush me out. You're still here, Jonesy.
- 49:15Speaker 1: You always would leave the same thing as now Friday gone.
- 49:19Speaker 3: Most of the time, I wasn't even coming in. I'm
- 49:21Speaker 3: at the book Gotta.
- 49:22Speaker 1: I was listening Jones is winning at the book Gott's
- 49:27Speaker 1: coming to work.
- 49:35Speaker 3: But on that day I was there, I didn't know
- 49:37Speaker 3: Beyonce was coming up, and I don't think she was
- 49:39Speaker 3: coming up for us. I think she was coming up
- 49:40Speaker 3: for our sister station Kiss, which was two steps away.
- 49:42Speaker 4: Right.
- 49:43Speaker 3: So Michael Sean, the comedian on our show at the time,
- 49:46Speaker 3: who's now my kind of co host at the block,
- 49:48Speaker 3: he happened to be downstairs because his routine was to
- 49:49Speaker 3: go down after the show and smoke. Okay, so he said,
- 49:52Speaker 3: he sees a whole secret service black s uvs pull
- 49:55Speaker 3: up and all of a sudden, doors fling open, doors
- 49:58Speaker 3: fling open, and hair hair is just blowing in the wind,
- 50:02Speaker 3: and these long, beautiful elongated legs step out of the suv.
- 50:04Speaker 3: He's like.
- 50:08Speaker 4: Jones.
- 50:09Speaker 3: So he runs back in the building and let me
- 50:11Speaker 3: know that Beyonce, who we have been joking on, laughing on,
- 50:15Speaker 3: I mean because we don't always played too much, we
- 50:17Speaker 3: don't have personal There was really nothing, never beef.
- 50:21Speaker 4: Wow, Okay.
- 50:23Speaker 3: I was just being stupid, right, And I was being
- 50:26Speaker 3: paid to be stupid and to mind the people's business.
- 50:29Speaker 3: And if you ever want me to stop minding your business,
- 50:32Speaker 3: you have to pay me a separation fee. So she
- 50:37Speaker 3: came upstairs and she went to hug me, but I
- 50:40Speaker 3: being just being stupid. I was like, I don't hug
- 50:43Speaker 3: I have newborns at home or whatever, just some stupid
- 50:45Speaker 3: just to be I didn't know she was gonna be
- 50:49Speaker 3: love on top.
- 50:50Speaker 6: I would say, what era, Beyonce?
- 50:51Speaker 4: Is this? What's the song? Was?
- 50:54Speaker 3: A song was popping from the kuchie of tin and
- 50:57Speaker 3: know from the kucci didn't matter?
- 51:02Speaker 4: Does this saying my name? What was this?
- 51:04Speaker 3: Ring me along?
- 51:05Speaker 6: She's you know I got kids at home.
- 51:12Speaker 1: Don't touch me, don't touch me, don't hug me.
- 51:14Speaker 3: Don't know why didn't say like that? I was just
- 51:16Speaker 3: was like, you know, she went in for the hug
- 51:17Speaker 3: and I did the stiff arm and she was like,
- 51:19Speaker 3: I'm Beyonce and I was like, nice to meet you,
- 51:23Speaker 3: and she nice to meet you too, and she walked
- 51:24Speaker 3: on to the studio to do her voice work. Yeah,
- 51:27Speaker 3: come that, damn Tina Knowles. Yeah. I like how you
- 51:31Speaker 3: keep my daughter's name in your mouth all the time.
- 51:34Speaker 1: This is public, It's from everybody, now, everybody. I'm there,
- 51:36Speaker 1: it's in the hallway, okay.
- 51:38Speaker 3: And now I'm gonna continue to keep it. And now
- 51:40Speaker 3: I'm gonna add yours to the list. You need to
- 51:42Speaker 3: worry about that joker lipstick making you look like the
- 51:45Speaker 3: damn joker. What you said that I did.
- 51:48Speaker 5: Yes, you still feel like that. I said that I believe,
- 51:54Speaker 5: but you just said that was so much conviction. I
- 51:55Speaker 5: just wanted to know if, like where we at right
- 51:57Speaker 5: now with miss Tina, and she was reenacting with you know, yeah.
- 52:00Speaker 3: That's came out, But no, I had so I didn't
- 52:02Speaker 3: have a problem with Beyonce back then, despite all the
- 52:05Speaker 3: parody songs, all the things.
- 52:07Speaker 6: Y'all made parody songs.
- 52:08Speaker 3: Would you like to hear one? It was a radio
- 52:10Speaker 3: show was fun because they have grown up and I
- 52:17Speaker 3: get it.
- 52:17Speaker 5: But it's like man's sit And I've been so excited
- 52:20Speaker 5: all morning just for you to come in here and
- 52:21Speaker 5: do this because.
- 52:22Speaker 3: We don't get this version of it.
- 52:24Speaker 4: See why because they oh you see we be doing
- 52:28Speaker 4: here with Jonesy.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Was doing then doing that.
- 52:33Speaker 3: They're traumatized him and Charlotmage Charlamine got it from Wendy.
- 52:36Speaker 3: He got a whole other trauma and Hevy. I'm sure
- 52:39Speaker 3: you're Trump, Mitch. We're trauma bonded the things we've done
- 52:42Speaker 3: this scene. But yeah, so back then we could make songs. Well,
- 52:44Speaker 3: that's also a special skill set. I can make up
- 52:47Speaker 3: songs on the fly. That's the R and B singer
- 52:49Speaker 3: in me. And I can flip your lyrics and make
- 52:51Speaker 3: them be lyrics about you in a funny way.
- 53:02Speaker 1: Now, sometimes your food order to be wrong. Yes, as
- 53:04Speaker 1: if food orders.
- 53:05Speaker 4: Wrong, your food order is wrong, what happens Jonesy, the
- 53:09Speaker 4: new jones the old Jonesy. Yeah, I'm talking about old
- 53:13Speaker 4: What I'm talking about Joneses?
- 53:15Speaker 3: I might be like what, I might throw it.
- 53:17Speaker 1: At you for real if it's wrong. This was every day,
- 53:22Speaker 1: this was Morning Show boot camp. You had to get
- 53:26Speaker 1: it right. There was no mistakes.
- 53:27Speaker 3: Everything.
- 53:28Speaker 4: You don't have.
- 53:28Speaker 1: People make mistakes, nah order every day.
- 53:33Speaker 4: That's why Envy and Charloama made every chance they get.
- 53:36Speaker 4: They say, man, y'all got it too easy because back
- 53:38Speaker 4: in it and y'all would have never made it y'all
- 53:41Speaker 4: too soft.
- 53:44Speaker 1: It would be hell yeah, not just for five minutes,
- 53:46Speaker 1: for the whole show.
- 53:47Speaker 3: It's still that way.
- 53:49Speaker 2: If a curse played, you'd have to deal with Jones,
- 53:52Speaker 2: you would have to deal with program director.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Music, and we get it nice.
- 53:56Speaker 3: But look, y'all need absolutely what that like because there
- 54:04Speaker 3: was a lot on the line back then. We didn't
- 54:07Speaker 3: know what we were doing was going to be youtuba
- 54:09Speaker 3: bull and people were gonna go back and be like, oh, shoot,
- 54:11Speaker 3: y'all played with us, you'll like that. Shoot y'all, y'all
- 54:14Speaker 3: did this. Y'all banged Hammer.
- 54:16Speaker 4: We know, we were like.
- 54:18Speaker 3: Kids being let loose in the funhouse.
- 54:21Speaker 1: Remember came and you wasn't there, that I wasn't there,
- 54:23Speaker 1: and he came from ye I want you.
- 54:25Speaker 4: So I happen with mc hammer first of all because
- 54:29Speaker 4: he has a game from Oakland, absolutely right.
- 54:34Speaker 1: I heard you know you see the dance can't touch this?
- 54:36Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were This is when interviews were live
- 54:40Speaker 2: really low, so when he landed, he was on his
- 54:43Speaker 2: way to the station. Jones was in the casino, so
- 54:46Speaker 2: she didn't come that day winning. So me and show
- 54:48Speaker 2: was making fun of him, like Hammer's coming, what you're
- 54:50Speaker 2: gonna say, can't touch this? Like Hammer, what happened? I
- 54:52Speaker 2: got to pray, like we were making.
- 54:54Speaker 3: Fun of Hammer's in the cab listening to him Selfie
- 54:58Speaker 3: Cloud because he's thinking he's coming out love a great
- 55:01Speaker 3: interview and it's New York. Who wants to be clowned
- 55:03Speaker 3: in New York?
- 55:04Speaker 1: He's never expecting, right.
- 55:05Speaker 2: So he gets to the station, him and the older
- 55:08Speaker 2: gentleman come inside, closes the door, stands at the door, says,
- 55:13Speaker 2: I'm here to test the coward's heart. I don't even
- 55:15Speaker 2: know what that means, right, I was like, what that means?
- 55:18Speaker 2: I'm here to fuck y'all up? Talk that shit in
- 55:21Speaker 2: front of me. At that point, he's not letting us out. Yeah,
- 55:25Speaker 2: he's not letting us out.
- 55:26Speaker 6: So what you started doing dancing?
- 55:27Speaker 4: I was I was nervous.
- 55:29Speaker 3: You joked again. You was like, can't touch this and
- 55:31Speaker 3: started dipping his dodging away from here. He playing around yep,
- 55:34Speaker 3: and then Mike Sean starts going in with his type
- 55:36Speaker 3: of comedy and then somebody called Ebro. Ebro came from
- 55:40Speaker 3: the Bay Area and he had a relationship with Hammer.
- 55:42Speaker 3: But it got so real, like I think Hammer started
- 55:44Speaker 3: sweating and was in their face like when you're talking
- 55:46Speaker 3: and spitting out. Oh yeah. And then had it not
- 55:50Speaker 3: been for Ebro saying chill, chill, chill, chill, Hammer, they
- 55:54Speaker 3: not this.
- 55:55Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the squad, Hebro said. Ebro caught me
- 55:57Speaker 2: and said, look, I don't know if you know, but
- 56:00Speaker 2: him is real. And that little that that guy, the
- 56:02Speaker 2: old guy, you probably got a gun in his bag
- 56:04Speaker 2: right there. So he was like, at the time, I
- 56:06Speaker 2: carry my little too. He said, So those little tw
- 56:08Speaker 2: bulletinern do nothing.
- 56:10Speaker 1: Leave him alone. And that was that was my probably
- 56:12Speaker 1: my scariest interview after that was about to fuck us.
- 56:15Speaker 4: So he was the original bird man, my nig Yes,
- 56:17Speaker 4: he was, yeah, yeah, so your ass at the casino
- 56:24Speaker 4: tumbling down on a hard four or something, but the
- 56:27Speaker 4: fours or something.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Don't think about it. You don't think about it. She
- 56:31Speaker 1: plays no, no, no, but but but she she's the
- 56:35Speaker 1: one to be like, you know what, I ain't coming
- 56:36Speaker 1: into that I'm broadcast from the crib you know you
- 56:38Speaker 1: had the landscape is in the background. Excuse me not to.
- 56:40Speaker 4: State that I'll be there m anytime I could broadcast
- 56:45Speaker 4: from somewhere else, I'll be doing it.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Yeah, damn Yo.
- 56:51Speaker 4: So you have new music? I you do? Okay, let's
- 56:55Speaker 4: get to that. What made you get back in? But
- 56:57Speaker 4: what what is this new music about? Like?
- 56:59Speaker 3: What is it?
- 56:59Speaker 4: Is it a you know, all that time that you've
- 57:02Speaker 4: been gone or your hiatus?
- 57:03Speaker 3: What kind it's more? I haven't gotten into that yet.
- 57:07Speaker 3: I have a newer, newer song that's that's for weddings.
- 57:12Speaker 3: But and it's a remake. But I don't want to
- 57:14Speaker 3: take the light against this. What this was is that
- 57:16Speaker 3: when I did start being able to listen to radio again,
- 57:19Speaker 3: there was nothing on radio being played that I really loved.
- 57:22Speaker 3: So I said, let me create something. That's how I
- 57:24Speaker 3: did grown Folk Fridays. There was no parties that were
- 57:27Speaker 3: just for the adults. So I created grown Folk Fridays
- 57:29Speaker 3: where we played throwback music and invited the throwback artists
- 57:32Speaker 3: to come and perform. Now it would be called pastor mic.
- 57:35Speaker 3: I did it first. But okay, so the songs are
- 57:38Speaker 3: just good feeling music, dance music, and everybody loves their
- 57:42Speaker 3: birthday and we all think our birthday signs are the best.
- 57:44Speaker 3: So this song is like called best Birthday, Best Birthday,
- 57:48Speaker 3: and let's play.
- 57:49Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh we want to hear it.
- 57:52Speaker 1: We could get that on that.
- 57:52Speaker 4: We got to hear it in.
- 57:54Speaker 1: Do you have any more questions for the legendary Misgi?
- 57:57Speaker 6: Well, I would you want to your relationship with Nas day?
- 58:00Speaker 6: What's that?
- 58:00Speaker 4: Like?
- 58:05Speaker 3: What do you mean like? Like what it like?
- 58:07Speaker 5: Because I know, like you were the first person to
- 58:09Speaker 5: put him on air around the ether time, like today,
- 58:12Speaker 5: are y'all still friends?
- 58:14Speaker 6: Are y'all speaking.
- 58:17Speaker 4: Like that?
- 58:18Speaker 3: No?
- 58:18Speaker 6: No, no, no, I mean like like, are y'all speaking?
- 58:20Speaker 6: Are you okay?
- 58:23Speaker 5: I wasn't even laying in today? No, I mean I
- 58:26Speaker 5: did have a dating question because I know you talked
- 58:28Speaker 5: about bust of rines.
- 58:28Speaker 3: But we can go either, like my son's getting mad,
- 58:36Speaker 3: just want to be going to be friends because he's
- 58:37Speaker 3: from the Bridge and I'm from the story yet and
- 58:39Speaker 3: we have that connection with like a cult. Yeah right,
- 58:42Speaker 3: that's hometown here a hometown friend. I actually would love
- 58:46Speaker 3: to catch up with Nas because Nas is another one
- 58:48Speaker 3: that has a lot of stories and when you reconnect
- 58:51Speaker 3: sometimes it brings you back so you can appreciate what
- 58:53Speaker 3: you've gone through to be where you are right now.
- 58:56Speaker 3: And he's so bought up right now. So proud of him.
- 58:58Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the hometown.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to ask last question. You were
- 59:02Speaker 1: in Biggie's video One More Chance? How was that video?
- 59:05Speaker 3: That was very very special because everyone didn't get invited
- 59:10Speaker 3: to be in it, and I was one of the
- 59:12Speaker 3: girls whose records may not have been the biggest, but
- 59:15Speaker 3: they invited me because Surety was ill, and everybody was
- 59:18Speaker 3: showing up and everyone was being regular, like nobody was
- 59:22Speaker 3: being nasty. Luke showed up first. You know, my ego,
- 59:27Speaker 3: bigg ass I was probably there first. D nice before
- 59:30Speaker 3: he was he was still DJing, but he wasn't, but
- 59:34Speaker 3: he was there. Everyone came with love and excitement because
- 59:38Speaker 3: we didn't even hear the song. Did He wouldn't let
- 59:40Speaker 3: anybody hear And the only song that was out was
- 59:42Speaker 3: the remix, So all night before I'm practicing in the
- 59:46Speaker 3: mirror to the remix, not knowing that that wasn't gonna
- 59:48Speaker 3: be the one, but everybody was and there were people
- 59:51Speaker 3: outside still trying to get in, So I'm actually glad
- 59:53Speaker 3: I got there early. But Patra shah Nay like, I'm
- 59:58Speaker 3: fans of these girls and I'm and now I'm like
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: in a video with them. And to this day when
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: those see things like that would happen while I was
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: raising my kids when they were little, a video would
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: come on and somebody would be like that looks like you.
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: Things like that, And I think the defining moment when
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: the cat came out the bag that Tasha Jayalen and
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: Jay's mom was Miss Showones I was running around, was
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: football mom. And before a football game, you have to
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: make sure that the announcer booth, everybody has the names
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: of the players, the coaches, all the things, and then
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: you have to press a button for the Whitney Houston
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: national anthem. Bitch, I'm pressing buttons and nothing's playing, and
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: they're all looking at the black lady in the booth
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: that they probably think should have had no business up
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: there to begin with. I grabbed the microphone and bust
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: down the national anthem to the point they're clapping before
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I even get to the and the Land of the
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: Free and my sons they're looking there like Jalen, that's
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: your mom. And I'm like, hey, and the mom and
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: at that moment they're like you're somebody you do you know?
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: White folks start Google oh yeah up at that point
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: and I couldn't hide. And then I was like, maybe
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to. Maybe I need to figure out,
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: you know, some things, and I wanted to sing. I
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: just didn't want to be back in the industry. So
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: I started singing a little band and that fulfilled me.
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: And then that and my little surveys. The money from
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: singing in the band. In the service we were we
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: were boiling.
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: White people with be like, oh she has so much
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: soul and they had no idea, and that one person
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: was like, this is why that's who she is.
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: This is the video and yeah, you got.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: A park story too. And birthday was just.
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: Too much and to much that I just want to.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: Say one last thing. I appreciate you, miss Jones. I
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: love you, I love you Envy.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: But you asked money about the threesome.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: You had a three pix eleven. Tell them all the
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: stuff that you do. You entertainment reporting pis eleven Thursdays.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: My son is do you see how he jumped in.
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: It was like, you don't forget to for a minute.
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right, so and be finished.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: I love you give I was gonna do it so
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: pick I was gonna say, we appreciate you, we love you.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: I appreciate you so much. You could check her on
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: pix eleven on Thursdays.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: And now I have a TV talk show special on
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: Picks eleven, hopefully June twenty second. If not, because I'm
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: you know me, I'm never like satisfied. So I'm still tweaking.
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: If I don't make my June twenty second debut, it'll
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: be July six with reporting.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: Go out and watch that.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Of course, she's on ninety four seven the Block each
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: and every Monday morning. And you, young man and your brother,
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: if I tell you how many times your moms call
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: me and I talked off the ledge for whooping.
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: Your asses, Oh my no, you don't understand.
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: I'm about right now.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: The Lawsville School appreciate and brother to Burg and Cathin,
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: you're the reason Chase In Bergen Cathin.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: That's right, he's doing very well. I love it.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it so much. History here man and.
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: Carrying the torch on ladies.
- 1:03:14Speaker 4: No problem. That's really really good for us.
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: We here because you realterally because well, thank you, because
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: you're doing it well and you're looking great doing it,
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: and you stay focused, black out the white noise, okay,
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: and just keep going.
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: Guys.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: We listen, miss Jones Jones Are. It's the breakfast Club.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Good morning, period, wake that ass up in the morning.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.