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Mystic Spiral Episode 20: Q and A · Laura and Lauren Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Mystic Spiral,
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  SPEAKER_01: the podcast where earth-rooted magic,
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  SPEAKER_01: animal wisdom,
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  SPEAKER_01: and ancient enchantment twist together like a serpent and a snail in the moss.
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  SPEAKER_01: Join us as we explore the unseen, the intuitive, and the beautifully strange.
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  SPEAKER_00: Each episode invites you deeper into the spiral,
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  SPEAKER_00: into the myth, and into the wild magic that lives within and around all of us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Lauren,
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  SPEAKER_01: Crystal Healer, Earth-Rooted Mystic, and Friend of Snails and Mossy Fae Folk Magic.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm Laura, Animal Communicator, Serpent Kinponowich, and Solitary Social Practitioner.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey mythlings!
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the Mystic Spiral.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today we're going to answer the questions we have gotten from all of you so far.
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  SPEAKER_01: Since it is our 20th episode, we figured we would
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  SPEAKER_00: answer 20 questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: If any new questions should happen to arise from the answering of these questions,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can email them to us at mysticspiralpodcasts at gmail.com
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  SPEAKER_00: and we will address them in our next Q&A episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's just get right down into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: The first question on our list here is a witch,
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  SPEAKER_01: this witch, I should say, on Instagram said not everyone can be a witch.
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  SPEAKER_01: Is that true?
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  SPEAKER_01: No.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't let internet weirdos tell you what you can and can't be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's including us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just let your freak flag fly or your witch flag.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is true that anytime you are entering something new in any category,
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  SPEAKER_00: including,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: witchcraft or any sort of spirituality or religion,
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  SPEAKER_00: you do want to do a little bit of like looking into it and you will have
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  SPEAKER_00: to do some work and practicing and research and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that is true of
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  SPEAKER_01: all of them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, don't be stepping on any closed practices and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, everything else is fair game.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everything else is fair game.
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  SPEAKER_01: The next question on our list is, I'm really overwhelmed with all the information online.
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  SPEAKER_01: What is the easiest way to start and where do I go first?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, our podcast is a good way to start.
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  SPEAKER_00: We kind of focus on beginner things and making it really easy and accessible for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's one way.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are lots of books.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you think of one off the top of your head that you would recommend?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, there's so many books.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's so many books.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you were just talking about in the last episode about Matt.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Matt Oren writes a lot of books, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a prolific writer and he packs a ton of really good information into his books as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you are more of a listener than a reader or you need
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  SPEAKER_00: a little bit more specific help,
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  SPEAKER_00: we have mentioned other People who have Patreons and YouTube channels and things
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  SPEAKER_00: and episodes before like the Witch of Wanderlust
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  SPEAKER_00: and Chaotic Witch Aunt make things really easy and accessible as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're also really just down to earth and like people that you would want to chill with.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: some people just try too hard and I like it
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  SPEAKER_01: when people are just their authentic selves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that in this age of social media, everything looks so like.
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  SPEAKER_00: Polished and perfect and snazzy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it really is.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's not just it's just not realistic for everyday life and for most people.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's
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  SPEAKER_01: very true.
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  SPEAKER_00: And those people aren't even practicing that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're just making it look like they are on the Internet.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, I carry at Groundings the Little Bit of series,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is like the perfect amount of information about a specific subject.
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  SPEAKER_01: So like, you know, pendulums or if you're looking for like dream work or.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: even yoga or shamanism,
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  SPEAKER_01: like the little bit of books like are perfect for that information.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's written really, really digestible.
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  SPEAKER_00: And actually, I think we mentioned it in the pendulum episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think so, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because that one's a really fun one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a great one.
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  SPEAKER_00: The next question is, what if I don't know what kind of witch I am or want to be?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's silly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can be whatever
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  SPEAKER_01: you want to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: But also you don't have to put a name on anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be anything specific.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, don't let internet weirdos tell you what to be or not to be.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to necessarily, you know, subscribe to paganism or Wiccan or.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be a kitchen witch if you're using herbs and doing things in
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  SPEAKER_00: the kitchen sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you might hate cooking.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might hate cooking.
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  SPEAKER_00: You might want to be something else.
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  SPEAKER_00: But.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you integrate that into your practice,
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  SPEAKER_00: that doesn't mean that you have to sign up for that specific thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't put a label on it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just be free.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unless that makes you feel better.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you want to put a label on it and kind of put yourself in that one category,
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  SPEAKER_00: you can do that, but you don't have to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're here for whatever you need.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that doesn't it doesn't make you any more or less of a witch
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  SPEAKER_00: or whatever you want to be to put a label on it or not.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The next question is fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do witches worship the devil like in the movies?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we do.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just kidding.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know anybody personally that believes in the devil.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't worship anybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you?
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I do not worship the devil.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, some people I do.
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  SPEAKER_01: We do have some people that come into the store who Do worship like Lucifer
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  SPEAKER_01: or things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it's more of a deity worship.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Deity work is different.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Lucifer was an angel.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not evil or signing up for selling her soul or anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or just doing, you know, a symbiotic relationship work with the deity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if the devil is your deity, by all means.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're not going to go sacrificing goats or anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know anybody that does that.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, neither do I.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, what is a serpent kinfana witch or an earth-rooted mystic?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, would you like to take the serpent kinfana witch?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I focus most of my magic and kind of draw upon animals for the most part and animals.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always have.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I focus on the most now is snakes and reptiles.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they really empower a lot of my personal work.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I say a lot of times I used to be a dog trainer and behavior consultant.
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  SPEAKER_00: I say that dogs really led me to healing my brain and my body.
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  SPEAKER_00: And snakes really led me to healing my spirit in this kind of work.
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  SPEAKER_00: So animals in general are The way that I feel the most magical and what I feel
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  SPEAKER_00: the most magical working with and snakes in particular are the closest to my heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's beautifully said.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, let me trip over my words now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So as an earth-rooted mystic, I really work with crystals.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: I kind of commune with nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: whether that's like Bathing in the ocean or sitting by a river or working one-on-one
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  SPEAKER_01: with crystal friends or even just listening to their guidance.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's really tapping into the Earth's energy and the core and the rhythm
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  SPEAKER_01: and believing that the universe has my back in whatever sense that is.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of like my background.
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  SPEAKER_01: I really love just being one with Mother Earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's really powerful to be that close to nature.
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  SPEAKER_00: And also,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you ever just sit with Lauren,
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  SPEAKER_00: you will feel the grounding come across in the air like she just radiates it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like to tap down.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the question number six is when did each of you start practicing witchcraft
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  SPEAKER_00: and how did you find it?
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  SPEAKER_01: That is a very good question.
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  SPEAKER_01: When I was a wee child,
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  SPEAKER_01: I used to walk the beach and pick up stones and have conversations with them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Not like physically talking to them, but,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: mental conversations of like, what, you know, what does this crystal feel like?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, what, what is the properties like?
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  SPEAKER_01: What does it do for me?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know?
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  SPEAKER_01: And my cousin at the time, who was a little older than me, was also really into crystal healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you'd be like, oh my gosh, that's spot on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Or like, you know, you're intuitively tapping in.
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  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, also like tell me things about crystals and all that kind of fun stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when I was older,
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  SPEAKER_01: I dove into more of the witchcraft side of things instead of earth-based healing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was more of,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: going to Barnes and Nobles and looking in the metaphysical section and
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  SPEAKER_00: That section has grown so much over the years.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, it has.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was just like one little tiny bookcase at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I remember getting a book about how to do spell work in particular.
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  SPEAKER_01: And my love for jar spells and candle magic came from there.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's grown ever since.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that you had somebody in your life that was there to help you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And kind of fan that flame a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's nice to have, like, even the smallest little, like, oh, I totally get that, you know?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: It makes a big difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does.
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  SPEAKER_00: My story is a little bit similar in the sense that I also was,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, combing the beach for seashells and stones and things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I really,
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember really focusing on collecting different crystals and,
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  SPEAKER_00: like, learning the names of them and kind of the properties of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: The first crystal I fell in love with was sodalite.
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  SPEAKER_00: And...
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  SPEAKER_00: I also was,
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  SPEAKER_00: like I mentioned in our scrying episode,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was doing scrying in the shower when the water would go down the drain
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  SPEAKER_00: before I even knew what that was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then in 1999,
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  SPEAKER_00: the show Charmed came out and I discovered witchcraft and all of the things
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  SPEAKER_00: that I was doing had a name and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I kind of became obsessed with it then.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I loved that show until it ended.
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  SPEAKER_00: And strangely,
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  SPEAKER_00: my mother,
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  SPEAKER_00: who is not into these things and is not honestly that great of a person, took this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Interest of mine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she brought me to the bookstore and she actually media play.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you remember that store,
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  SPEAKER_00: she bought me my first tarot deck,
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  SPEAKER_00: which was the Dragon Tarot by Lisa Hunt and also a book on Wicca.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I started off in Wicca and I don't remember the name of this book,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it had the the alchemical signs for the elements on the front
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  SPEAKER_00: with really pretty pictures or colorful.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just remember thinking that they were pretty at the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that gave me a whole bunch of information and I did not stop since.
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  SPEAKER_00: Very cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wonder what that book was.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have to look it up after this, honestly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: My first deck was given to me too, and it was a rune deck.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm pretty sure it was just called the rune deck.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it's, you know, I don't know, it's my favorite deck.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's funny how those things, people,
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  SPEAKER_00: some people on the internet will say that you have to be given a deck Otherwise,
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  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't count.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why they say that, but we were actually given decks the first time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that funny?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, that's,
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  SPEAKER_01: you don't have to be given a deck the first time, but, you know, it's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be given a deck ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can buy your own.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just interesting how that happens sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_01: So on to number seven.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can I be a part of another religion and practice witchcraft?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: People do it all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some religions and some religious practices are not quite so amenable to it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But even so,
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  SPEAKER_00: I know of people who are Christians and witches and people who are Jewish
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  SPEAKER_00: and witches and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you, it can be done.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, 100% agree.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if that's what you want to do, you should do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can totally take different things and mold it together and make your own thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's valid.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe the most valid.
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  SPEAKER_01: Mm hmm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Number eight is a fun one.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do you see and talk to ghosts?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't usually.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does happen occasionally, but it's pretty rare.
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  SPEAKER_00: However, Lauren...
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, I, I do,
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  SPEAKER_01: I do see spirit,
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  SPEAKER_01: um, and talk to spirit, but not as much as, you know, other mediums would.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but, uh,
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  SPEAKER_01: I've definitely had a few like intense moments in my life where,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, um, you know, I've been, whatever, you know, visited.
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  SPEAKER_00: The soldier is coming to my mind.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the soldier.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, um, Yeah, there's definitely ghost stories.
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  SPEAKER_01: You might have to have a ghost story.
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  SPEAKER_01: That would
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  SPEAKER_00: be fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: And a little creepy at times,
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  SPEAKER_01: but you just got to hold your boundaries, you know, and just say, hey, I see you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're valid.
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  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But also, I don't want to really see you right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have things to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got stuff to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: So.
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  SPEAKER_00: Number nine is do all witches believe in the rule of three?
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's a Wiccan thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's like an, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Every witch for themselves thing, you know, like I feel like it's just, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't personally.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I believe like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, you shouldn't do no harm to others if you don't want harm done to you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that if you mess up or something,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're not going to have things come back to you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's more like the golden rule, which is just don't treat people like shit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is not a witchcraft thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's just a Yeah, that's just human kindness, human decency.
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  SPEAKER_01: So please just, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you didn't learn that in kindergarten, let me be the first to tell you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just be kind
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  SPEAKER_01: to everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's all good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unless they start it.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, then, you know, you might have some problems.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Then hold your boundaries.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: But otherwise.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: Number 10.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Do I need to practice every day if I'm overwhelmed and busy?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I experiencing a low mental health period?
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't have to practice every day if you're not overwhelmed or busy
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: or experiencing a low mental health period.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Some days it's just a day.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: And that's fine.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I am of the mind and feeling that if you're not feeling called to it or interested
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: in it, then it's not worth doing necessarily.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't have a spark in you or an intent,
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: it's a little bit pointless to just do it to do it.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: You don't want to push yourself to do something and then feel crappy about it.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: You can do something else.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like journal or play video games or make dinner.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Which also can be part of your ritual.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: You can absolutely add witchcraft and practice and any sort of prayer or anything
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: into those activities, but you also don't have to.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: You can just do things for you.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: Number 11 is could tattoos or other body modification be magic?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have a sigil tattoo.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty magical.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the main thing about magic is intention.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: And you can do almost anything with intention.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: I like it.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: So why not?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's so true.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Number 12 is, do I need to be initiated into a coven or have ceremonial robes?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to,
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: you can go into the sort of ceremonial aspect of things, but it's not a requirement.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Neither is a coven.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty solitary.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing okay.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just take it one day at a time.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're all doing okay.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: It is true.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: We are all doing okay, whether you choose to do that or not.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: Number 13, what are the differences between witchcraft, Wicca, and paganism?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: So basically paganism is the umbrella term for all of the things that sort
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: of fall outside of the main religions that you think of.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Wicca is a religion that falls under the paganism thing and witchcraft is any or all
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: of those things or not really any of them.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: It can be pretty much anything.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just like a broader term for your craft.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't have to be a Wiccan to be a witch and you don't have to...
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: You can do anything.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: You can be monotheistic, polytheistic, animistic, whatever you want.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: So just the free deciding of things, basically.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: The world is your oyster.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: What
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: if you don't like oysters?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: Well, then I don't know.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: I guess you're kind of screwed.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: The world is your oyster, but don't eat it if you don't like them.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Don't.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't do that.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Number 14.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: How much is real everyday practice like with the media shows?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: I would say not very much.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like social media or like.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or are we just thinking like.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean either way.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Social media or like TV shows or movies and things.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think that all of it is not super realistic.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: I think sometimes, you know, we get this like idea in our head that we have to like.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Do more or be more or,
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: any flashier and flashier and like it really can be as simple as sticking some nails
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: in an orange.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, right.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Just saying.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Thinking about some stuff real hard and lighting a candle.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, obviously,
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: the more intention you put into something,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: the more of the outcome is going to happen.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: But like, you can also keep it pretty simple.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: And you can absolutely spend your money and time buying all
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: the really pretty things, but you also don't have to.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: You can just,
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: like I said in the scrying episode,
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: you can just micro scry while you're boiling a pot of soup,
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: but you don't You don't need to sit down and have one of those black mirrors
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: and smoke and things going on.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's very true.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: You can just fit it into your life.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be social media ready.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not going to be like you snap your fingers and a candle across the room lights.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: That would be cool, though.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: It would be so cool if Practical Magic was real life.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: That would be amazing.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: But if you do want a scrying mirror or, you know, scrying bowl, I got you covered, too.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: So come on in.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Some of those things are really cool.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I, again, I also have bought some of them, but you don't have to do that.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: What is next?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: What's your favorite part of being a
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: witch or practitioner?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I,
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: for me personally, I mean,
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: I do a lot of work with people and I That is probably my favorite part of my type
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: of witchcraft or practice is helping people connect with crystals,
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: connect with their energy, connect with, you know, whatever that might be.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: If they're looking to,
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: help heal some part of themselves and they need guidance on that,
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: or if they're looking just to like get into meditation or any kind of guidance,
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: actually, I mean, that's probably what makes me the happiest.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: It does show when I'm sitting in the shop and people ask you questions
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: and you're like, here, let me help you.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know exactly what you need.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say that's
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: that's my favorite part.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: But.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: What is my favorite part?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I think that one of my favorite things about it is that it can be anything.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that I need or want at any given time.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it can go anywhere.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: There are no rules.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: There are guidelines, but there's no hard rules.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Except for don't steal from closed practices.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's a hard rule.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is a hard rule.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe not.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, maybe don't hex people.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you can.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's a later question.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: I might be jumping ahead.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Here's number 16.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: If my friend's practice looks very different from mine,
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: does that mean one of us is doing it wrong and it won't work?
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Practice is individual.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you sort of subscribe to the same belief system,
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: it can look really different and it can still work out the same.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, there's no rules.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: There is no rules.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: Only right.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Number 17.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: I want to hex my ex-partner.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Should I do it?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, well.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: You can if you want to and some of them probably deserve it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I. I personally wouldn't.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I hexed my ex over a poopoo platter once.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: If it's the ex I'm thinking of, he definitely deserved it.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: And like, that worked out in my favor, but I don't recommend.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not necessarily recommend,
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: but if you do decide to do that, we also support you a little bit.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly, exactly.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: That poopoo platter flame, I mean, it was perfect timing.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: The thing that I think is helpful for that sort of thing Is
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: that it makes you feel like you are doing something and being more in control.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes they really do deserve bad things up into them.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of hexing, what I would suggest is journaling, but doing a cord cutting too.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cord cuttings are really important.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would, you know, do that first.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then decide if you want to hex after.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if all else fails, I mean, then we can talk about it.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: There are other things that you can do first that will make you feel better.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Number 18.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: What's your favorite witchy book?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we mentioned Matt Oren.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's a good one.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: And Laura Tempest-Zurkoff is good too.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: She's got a couple of good books that I really like.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's got really good books and really cute decks.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, I love her decks too.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there's just so many good books out there.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, any of, I do like Ted Andrews books for animal communication, spirit guides.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: I like, you know, I don't know.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: There's so many.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it really depends on what you're looking for.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: True.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_00: That is very true.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: I would just go back to the little bit of, you know, the little bit of books.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a specific subject, that's like, that's perfect.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I said, Ted Andrews for animal communication is always great.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Dr. Stephen Farmer.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: He also is really good with animal communication.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: He did the medicine deck, right?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: I believe so.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: He has a Dr. Stephen Farmer has a few animal decks on the market right now.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: I might be thinking of a different one.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm actually going to look it up.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go for it.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: There's a power animal deck and a couple other ones too.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to think it's like the spirit wisdom or something too.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: There's just so many good decks and books and I'm happy to share
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: If anyone has any questions or...
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, email us and we'll give you more specific recommendations.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I looked it up and the deck that I was thinking of was the Power Animal Oracle Cards.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: But he also created the Earth Magic Oracle Cards deck and I really like that one too.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that is such a good one.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: So pretty.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Classic.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's move on to number 19.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about love spells?
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: It depends on your intention with the love spell.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: If you are...
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Thinking about creating a love spell and doing it on a specific person,
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really for it,
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: but if you are leaving it open,
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: I've done those before, and that worked out really well for me.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: You have to be really specific about your intentions and kind of leaving it open
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: for anyone, the right person to come in, not a specific person.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not really into making people feel things or wanting to make people feel things, but...
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think if you want to manifest love for yourself,
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: then like,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think you should,
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: not try to, uh,
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: coerce a specific person,
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: but actually,
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: you know, write down the attributes that you want to find in a partner.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: I've done this with a candle and with a poppet and both
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: of those have worked out really well for me.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: But I wasn't specific about who I wanted,
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: just specific about the traits that I wanted and needed.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, So that kind of thing I'm into, but not specific people are trying to control others.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: None of that now.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_01: None of that.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: Number 20.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't the pentagram mean something evil?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let me tell you a fun story.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: When I say a fun story, I mean trauma.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: I ended up going on a date with a man who... Oh, no.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: Already downhill.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, downhill.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: And...
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: You wanted to take me to a longhorn, which should have been red flag number one.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: I've been on a good date at a longhorn.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Don't blame longhorn.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, good.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I won't tell you the whole story of this crazy,
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: but he was telling me how,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: when he worked down in North Carolina, this waitress was wearing a pentagram.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: Can you believe that shit?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: I said this to you?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I said...
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I can believe that.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yes, I can.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, well, you know, it's a gateway for the devil.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: The devil comes through those.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a portal, you know.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, no, it's not.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little small if it's on your neck for the devil to come through.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's a whole human.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: I said, no, it represents earth, air, fire, water, spirit.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a belief system.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: And he slammed his hands down on the table and said, no, you are wrong.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: The devil comes through there.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Has he seen the devil come through there?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like that's acid.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Then I picked up my phone and said, huh, weird, my dad's calling me, which he was not.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Let myself leave.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you don't say I can't believe I can't imagine why you would want to do that.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, this man is crazy.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I would have left, which is not the right thing to do.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think that I would have been like, I wonder how this can get weirder.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sometimes you just got to excuse yourself from crazy.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: You absolutely should do that.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Do not do do as I say, not as I do.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely leave and keep yourself safe.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, the pentagram does not mean something evil.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, it means earth, air, fire, water.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: And also it can represent the human body.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of thing.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: So earthy things and human body things and that kind of stuff, but not evil.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: The devil is not going to come through the pentacle around your neck.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: And and it can also like the pentacle can represent like abundance as well and money
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_01: and all that kind of stuff.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, in that story, I think it might have been a protection symbol against that guy.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it was.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure she was like, wow, this guy is a freak.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Let me let me let me make this a hard no.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: Let me drop off his eggs and toast and walk away, you know.
• 29:03
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• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Before we leave today, we're going to pull a card.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Today we were called to use the Little Frog's Guide to Self-Care deck by Maybelle Equay.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: As a friendly reminder, take what resonates with you and leave the rest.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go, Mifflings.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Shuffy, shuffy, shuffy.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Just so you know, I love this deck.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: It is so cute.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: Not just because there's little frogs, but also because there's little frogs.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: And mushrooms.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Little mushrooms.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: We both love frogs and mushrooms.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: I am reclaiming my childlike sense of wonder.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Look at this card.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's so cute.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: It is so cute.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's one of those rain frogs that is like a circle with the big eyes
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: and they have little butt cheeks.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's not what you can see in the picture, but that is what the image is based on, I'm certain.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm trying to find,
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: they have in this little tiny guidebook like a deeper dive, like a deeper thought.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um...
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Frog is wearing little ruby shoes.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Aww.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: Magic always reveals itself when I'm willing to see it.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: Small and wondrous things are happening around us all the time.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you just need to take a moment outside of your mind to see it.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great message.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: Just keep that childlike whimsy.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_00: We all need more whimsy.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, we all need more whimsy.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: And clearly we all need a little rain frog with a cowboy hat, so...
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get a rain frog.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: They're really hard to take care of, but get an image of a rain frog in a cowboy hat.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was so much fun.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for sending your questions to us.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: If we get enough of them,
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: maybe we'll do a live Q&A and we can interact with our mythlings more directly.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: That would be so much fun.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: And next time on the Mystic Spiral, we'll be talking about the lure of a melody.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be talking about beings that work their magic in song.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Until then, mythlings, keep listening and keep your magic soft and steady.
• 31:30
  [music]