Transcript

02/09/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Let's huddle up.
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Speaker 2: The Monday edition of The Huddle coming to you the
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Speaker 2: first day a winter. I'm not talking about the calendar
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Speaker 2: of the meteorological winner. I'm talking about the first day
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Speaker 2: of the offseason in the National Football League. Welcome in, Drew,
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Speaker 2: Billy and Arman bringing it to you from headquarters. Oh,
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Speaker 2: we got plenty of unpack from not just the Super
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Speaker 2: Bowl super Bowl sixty in the books, but the entirety
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Speaker 2: of the NFL season. William I just couldn't wait to
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Speaker 2: talk to you as I watched it unfold, because I said,
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to Billy about when's the
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Speaker 2: last time you saw an offensive line get ragged all
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Speaker 2: as bad as the Patriots did last night.
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Speaker 3: About three hundred and sixty five days ago, when the
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs got tossed around by the Philadelphia Eagles
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Speaker 3: in a rather similar fashion, just with a different future
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Speaker 3: I mean a future Hall of Fame quarterback in Patrick Mahomes.
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that to Drake May who
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Speaker 3: knows feod are gonna be back, but to look as
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Speaker 3: este and as he did last night, and that's gonna
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Speaker 3: be a tough film for him to watch. That is
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Speaker 3: gonna be a really, really tough film for Drake may
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Speaker 3: to watch, who was sensational all year long for an
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Speaker 3: offensive line that was pretty bad all year long, objectively bad. However,
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Speaker 3: when you go back and watch it, you're gonna see
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Speaker 3: multiple times and I think he gets sacked six times
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Speaker 3: officially because the one registers as an interception and not
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Speaker 3: a strip sack taken back for a touchdown. Luckily for
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Speaker 3: those that had interception return for a touchdown maybe at
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Speaker 3: the Potawatamy sportsbook, come on now, not me, oh no,
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Speaker 3: not other people. But there's thanks, thanks, there's but there's
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Speaker 3: a there's a moment in time where like four or
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Speaker 3: five times where he gets sacked Drew he's at the
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Speaker 3: top of his release, he's at the top of his break,
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Speaker 3: he's at the top of his drop. Ball's got to
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Speaker 3: come out, and he was skittish last night.
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Speaker 1: Whether that was.
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Speaker 3: Because he got sped up by the Seattle Rush or what.
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Speaker 3: That is gonna be a tough tough film to watch
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Speaker 3: because there were big plays there, there were plays available
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Speaker 3: for New England. However, maybe it even speaks better to
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Speaker 3: how good the MVP Matt Stafford looked three times against
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Speaker 3: that Seattle team. They beat them once, they lost twice twice.
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Speaker 3: They probably should have won one. They had a sixteen
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Speaker 3: point lead in the fourth quarter. And what a different
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Speaker 3: season it could have been if Zach Charbonnay's two point
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Speaker 3: conversion in Seattle doesn't go the other way poin and
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Speaker 3: a much much different super Bowl we might have watched,
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Speaker 3: which objectively drew.
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Speaker 1: I think was one of.
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Speaker 3: The biggest blowout, lopsided games in the Big Game that
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Speaker 3: we've watched in in my lifetime. Like the majority of
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Speaker 3: the majority of Super Bowls over the last twenty five
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Speaker 3: thirty years have been great games. They have been heart pumping,
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Speaker 3: and last night that was a put the kids to
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Speaker 3: bed rather early.
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Speaker 2: What if I told you that we were going to
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Speaker 2: have a Super Bowl in which thirty points would be
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Speaker 2: scored combined in the fourth quarter and the game still sucked?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't they all feel like garbage points? I was
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Speaker 4: just gonna be all garbage, Like all garbage points. It
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Speaker 4: was twenty nine to thirteen the final for Seattle. It
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Speaker 4: didn't seem anywhere near that close.
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Speaker 2: Now, a lot of caveats to this, We're gonna be
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be picking through this all day eight seven, seven, seven, nine,
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Speaker 2: four ninety seven.
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Speaker 1: Three gets you in, you early risers.
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Speaker 2: We love you hanging out with us this early that
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Speaker 2: we get to pick through this and again everything everything
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Speaker 2: here is filtered through the lens of the Packers and
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Speaker 2: I come away from watching this game. Yeah, Seattle, tipy
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Speaker 2: cap amazing like that defense like this, uh what do
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Speaker 2: they call it?
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Speaker 1: The dark dark.
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Speaker 2: Side at the dark side they came up with because
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Speaker 2: they wanted to be different from the Legion of Boom.
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Speaker 2: They're right up there with the Legion of the very Good. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they're right up there with the eighty five Bears. They're
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Speaker 2: right up there with the steel curtain. Like this is
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Speaker 2: what was a historic performance by this defense. Now, but
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Speaker 2: you watch that and you say, okay, what how far
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Speaker 2: away are the Packers from playing the Super Bowl? And
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Speaker 2: the answer is, well, we don't know, because anything can
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Speaker 2: happen in the freaking NFL. Right, because the Patriots just
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Speaker 2: went from four to thirteen picking in the top four
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Speaker 2: of the draft to playing in the super Bowl. Now
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Speaker 2: they got boat raced, but they played in the super Bowl, right, Seattle,
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Speaker 2: last year was like what ten and seven with Gino
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Speaker 2: Smith at the Helm hm, and they.
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Speaker 1: Played in the Super Bowl. Playing in the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: So I just if you.
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Speaker 2: Have a good GM, if you have the right mix,
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Speaker 2: it's like it's it's there. Like I came thinking, yeah, oh,
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Speaker 2: the Packers could be it so fine next year as
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Speaker 2: a thousand percent Yeah. And what you really need, Drew,
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Speaker 2: are the right lottery ticket free agent hits to become
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Speaker 2: your DeMarcus Lawrence, like Seattle was where he became one
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Speaker 2: of their most feared pass rushers.
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Speaker 1: You can check me if I'm wrong. I think he's
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Speaker 1: making like nine million bucks, right. I think he's got
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Speaker 1: like a one year deal.
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Speaker 3: But he was a legit star, a good player, a
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Speaker 3: multiple time pro bowler in Dallas, needed to get somewhere
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Speaker 3: else and he hits.
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Speaker 1: You also have a little bit of a.
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Speaker 3: Clashing of where we always feel like there's a new
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Speaker 3: trend in the game of how you have to win,
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Speaker 3: how you have to win.
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Speaker 1: For a long time, it was what New England did.
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Speaker 3: It was have a rookie contract, quarterback, young player, load
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Speaker 3: up with a bunch of caps based Milton Williams was
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Speaker 3: the highest priced Patriot of all time. They gave Digs
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Speaker 3: a bunch of money that nobody else is gonna give them,
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Speaker 3: and you can build up your roster the other way.
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Speaker 3: And now we're seeing where Seattle Tampa Bay is in
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Speaker 3: the same realm where they've grabbed somebody, where everyone else
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Speaker 3: is at fifty. We could get somebody who might at
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Speaker 3: certain times during the year, certain seasons Sam Darnold for
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Speaker 3: back to back years playing better than a lot of
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Speaker 3: those fifty million dollar guys. But if we can pay
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Speaker 3: somebody thirty and get fifty million dollar performance, that's a
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Speaker 3: kind of inefficiency that we're just never going to be
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Speaker 3: able to match in a game that is so helpent
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Speaker 3: on how much you can do around the margins with
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Speaker 3: your roster.
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Speaker 2: If it's a copycat league, I hope that some gms
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Speaker 2: will copy John and Schnyder in pulling the trigger in
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Speaker 2: season trades.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They got Leonard.
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Speaker 2: Williams, Ernest Jones and Rashid Shaheed in season Yeah, you
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Speaker 2: know those guys big time the last couple years, and
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Speaker 2: it's like you add guys and and fill your holes
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Speaker 2: and look in Rashid Shaheed, look at how the impact
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Speaker 2: he had. I mean, it's that I want to see copied. Like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's let's get a little bit more, a little bit
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Speaker 2: more aggressive, a little bit more aggressive in season, you know.
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Speaker 3: Because when the uh, when the Seahawks pick in the
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Speaker 3: fourth round and it comes up to the Saints because
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Speaker 3: that was one of the fourth like whatever, it was
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Speaker 3: a fourth and a six or a fifth and a six,
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Speaker 3: then they gave for Shaheed. They're not gonna be upset, okay,
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Speaker 3: just like Packers fans will be okay when number twenty
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Speaker 3: rolls around and they're like, wait, I'm wearing my Michael
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Speaker 3: Parsons jerts.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, sweet.
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Speaker 3: So the the other part of it drew for Seattle,
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Speaker 3: and this is the one where you know, you can
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Speaker 3: definitely question it as a Packers fan, and it's gonna
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Speaker 3: do a little bit digging, and it might be one
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Speaker 3: that kind of rip rips off the band aid and
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Speaker 3: hindsight's always twenty to one, and strangely enough, might marry
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Speaker 3: up to the conversation we're having going into the offseason
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Speaker 3: very well. On the buck side, Seattle's the one that
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Speaker 3: pulled the trigger on the deal that everybody believed the
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Speaker 3: Packers could have had if you would have moved off
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers after the twenty twenty one season, when they
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Speaker 3: trade for Russell Wilson a mirror seconds after the reports
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Speaker 3: come out that Aaron Rodgers is returning to the Green
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Speaker 3: Bay Packers for his eighteenth season.
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Speaker 1: They get three firsts.
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Speaker 3: One of those becomes Devin Witherspoon, who has a sack
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Speaker 3: and a half last night. They move off another one,
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Speaker 3: Charles Cross I believe, is another one of those.
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Speaker 1: They're starting left tackle.
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Speaker 3: And they got like four starters from the trade that
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Speaker 3: the Packers could have had.
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Speaker 1: But didn't take. And again, I still don't know that
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Speaker 1: I would have done it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have all of this now where they
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Speaker 3: get three frontline starters. I believe Kenneth Walker was in
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Speaker 3: that draft. Jackson Smith and Jigma comes a couple of
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Speaker 3: years later, and all of a sudden, you're looking at
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Speaker 3: a team that has completely revamped and rebuilt. When they
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Speaker 3: decided like, yeah, Russell Wilson doesn't want to be here,
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Speaker 3: we don't want to pay him that kind of money.
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Speaker 3: We will take those three first round picks. And when
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Speaker 3: you do the right thing with him like John Schneider did,
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Speaker 3: this can be how it goes.
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Speaker 2: The in game prop was gonna be Will Walker rush
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Speaker 2: for more yards than.
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold throws for.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Patriots, and I think bad Bunny carried the
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Speaker 2: ball for more yards than the Patriots.
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Speaker 1: Gained in the game.
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Speaker 2: So probably why because yeah, we didn't even get to that.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that the commercials.
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Speaker 2: It's it's the spectacle of the NFL and it's uh,
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Speaker 2: the culmination and now it's like, we're gonna go through withdrawals,
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Speaker 2: We're gonna pick through this.
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Speaker 1: I'm just there's so much to get to in this game.
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Speaker 2: It's like, where do you start just with it was
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Speaker 2: an ass whooping of epic proportions. Tip your cap to
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Speaker 2: the Yawks. There were so many thoughts throughout the game.
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Speaker 2: I actually texted our pal Shanna Quinn. I'm like, oh
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Speaker 2: my god, your Bills should be here. This was their
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Speaker 2: year later they would have been a better watch than
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Speaker 2: the patrit Every fan base, I shouldn't say every fan base.
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of fan bases were thinking the
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Speaker 4: same thing watching both teams. But that encapsulated this NFL
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Speaker 4: year where super dominant team.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing.
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Speaker 2: The Patriots like to me, like, you watch him last
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Speaker 2: night and they say, oh there, they'd be like the
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Speaker 2: fifth or sixth best team in the NFC, right, and
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Speaker 2: then it's like, I wonder what they're working through because
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Speaker 2: this is uncharted territory for them. Nuts since Steve Grogan
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Speaker 2: went against the eighty five Bears, did they have they
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Speaker 2: been humbled like this on this stage, like just absolutely,
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Speaker 2: you know, dominated thrashed. And it's like now you can
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Speaker 2: understand like they're they're say, well, maybe Drake may is
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Speaker 2: a he turned into a pumpkin. Maybe he's a maybe
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Speaker 2: he's gonna pucker in big games. Right, No, I'll be fine,
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Speaker 2: be okay.
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Speaker 1: I'm interested.
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Speaker 3: We do this always where you you find out how
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Speaker 3: hurt somebody is after the case and that that rumbling came. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: well it definitely might be more interesting in the next
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Speaker 3: couple of days to see if he was actually dinged.
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Speaker 2: And then people saying Josh McDaniel overrated, get get rid
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Speaker 2: of him.
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Speaker 3: I mean I was just I was floored, guys, like
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Speaker 3: when you're watching it, and this is where again I
10:04
Speaker 3: went back and saw some of it, and this is
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Speaker 3: why it's gonna be tough for Drake to watch because
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Speaker 3: they have open receivers like they have multiple times, they
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Speaker 3: have open guys. You just didn't trust it, and again
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Speaker 3: understandably so, because Will Campbell was getting absolutely thrown around
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Speaker 3: like a Campbell's not chunky soup. You're grabbing two cans
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Speaker 3: of the chicken noodle in the little old school red
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Speaker 3: and white can you need two of them to fill
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Speaker 3: the bowl.
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Speaker 1: And apparently that was the small arms.
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Speaker 3: For Will Campbell because he was getting thrown around yesterday.
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Speaker 3: But similar to what happened most of the most of
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, they just were able to overcome it. Because
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Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan was on the pregame show and he said
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Speaker 3: a lot of really really smart things, but they either
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Speaker 3: wants to get into the TV not a coaching good
10:43
Speaker 3: good good move for him. But he said, there's two
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Speaker 3: there were two Super Bowl defenses all year long where
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Speaker 3: as long as the offense and special teams didn't screw
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Speaker 3: it up for him, they were going they could one
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Speaker 3: could have won the Super Bowl by themselves. That's the
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Speaker 3: in Houston. Well, Houston's offense did screw it up for him. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: against the Patriots three weeks ago and Seattle, now New England,
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Speaker 3: I thought did a really good job defensively early where
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Speaker 3: they heat it up. Darnold too there were two or
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Speaker 3: first balls, the one to Davis on the first drive
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Speaker 3: that could have been going ninety the other way in
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Speaker 3: a split second. But but they were able to weather
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Speaker 3: the storm long enough.
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Speaker 2: At the same the flip side of that coin is,
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Speaker 2: if not for christ and Gonzalez playing is arsof this
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Speaker 2: would have been even worse.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have looked more like Billion Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: It would have It would have been even worse.
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Speaker 2: So it's just there's so much unpack But I came
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Speaker 2: away thinking, yeah, the packers are fine.
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Speaker 1: Packers are not that far away.
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Speaker 2: Give me Micah Parsons and let me you know, and
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Speaker 2: Xavier McKinney and Eddrian Cooper and they're in the mix,
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Speaker 2: you know, And can I foresee them going to Super Bowl?
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Speaker 1: Sure? Does everything have to go right the way it did.
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Speaker 2: For Seattle the way it did like Seattle, You're right,
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Speaker 2: even getting past the rams, it's not easy and it's
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Speaker 2: never going to be easy, but I can envision it well.
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Speaker 1: And that seems to be the mix now on the NFL.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think if it's if you're health, if
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Speaker 4: you remain healthy enough, there packers are as talenting to
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Speaker 4: do it. But you can't beat yourself and you have
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Speaker 4: to have things go your way at the right time.
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Speaker 2: I would think, like Lafleur, like there were games when
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Speaker 2: the Packers offense struggled and series and halfs against the
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Speaker 2: Bears the second half of two games that they lost,
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Speaker 2: But I never saw a guy give up fourteen pressures
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Speaker 2: for the Packers.
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Speaker 1: I mean that Brown Browns game. That's the one I
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Speaker 1: think about.
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Speaker 4: That when when we when we lost the Browns, that
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Speaker 4: was the worst offensive line plays that you And even
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Speaker 4: that wasn't as horrible as what we saw that.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't just protecting.
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Speaker 2: Yeahdrake May, there are running backs were getting drilled by
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Speaker 2: It was just it was they were engulfed.
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Speaker 3: There was nothing you could do outside of a couple
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Speaker 3: of those Henderson outside runs to grab a little bit
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Speaker 3: of something. And the Patriots are gonna think about it
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Speaker 3: a lot. I also think vrabel knew it early. He's like, listen,
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Speaker 3: we are going to struggle to move the football, so
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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to take a couple of deep shots.
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Speaker 3: That's were more of the longer developing players words like
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Speaker 3: if we could get rid of the ball deep, we
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Speaker 3: have to because we're not gonna be able to run it,
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Speaker 3: and I don't think we're gonna get multiple first downs.
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Speaker 3: They went from their first drive I believe it was
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Speaker 3: their first first down to the last minute of the
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Speaker 3: third quarter their next first down.
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Speaker 1: So that was how much of a slog it was
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Speaker 1: for them to do anything in there.
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Speaker 2: They Drake may take care of the ball and when
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Speaker 2: stuff's melting down, run for fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't do that. And he didn't run it
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Speaker 1: much at all last night.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, he was one vote from being
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Speaker 4: the MVP of the league. Just I kept thinking about
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Speaker 4: that last night. I mean, this was this was the
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Speaker 4: best player in the league. I don't know, you know,
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Speaker 4: but obviously it shows you on important protection as well.
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Speaker 3: But Arman, look at how many of the MVP quarterbacks
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Speaker 3: have gone into the Super Bowl against like a top
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Speaker 3: five defense struggled. This performance is actually pretty similar to
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Speaker 3: what you see right like you manning MVP quarterback when
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks won their last Super Bowl, and I mean,
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Speaker 3: granted the first play of the games of safety, but
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Speaker 3: that was one of the most miserable performances of his career.
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Speaker 2: Well, the guy who won the Super were both through
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Speaker 2: for two hundred and two yards, like you don't just.
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Speaker 3: Enough man red hots him not at eight seven seven
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Speaker 3: seven nine seven three, waking up with us early that
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Speaker 3: they said, uh An even checked on Justin Jefferson this morning.
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Speaker 4: That's saying that is a moment for justice. Is this
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Speaker 4: worse for the Vikings of the Jets though, like last night?
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Speaker 4: Like is this the worst moment for the Vikings? Definitely
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Speaker 4: the Vikings.
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Speaker 3: Because I don't think in all Earnest Armon, Yeah, anybody
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Speaker 3: truthfully believes the Jets can ever win anything.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point. They just said. That's why I think.
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Speaker 3: Sally your bones, right, Amy Adams Shrunk's like if he
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Speaker 3: was coaching thirty other teams, maybe we don't give him
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Speaker 3: another shot exactly, but he's coaching for Woody Johnson and Drew.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody can win there.
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Speaker 4: The amount of response I got when I questioned Sally
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Speaker 4: getting their job was overwhelmingly the same.
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Speaker 1: It was, it doesn't count, it's the Jets, it's the Jets.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing though, Like the Patriots went from
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Speaker 2: four and thirteen to playing in the Super Bowl, Elliott
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Speaker 2: wolf is he's going to be able cook because he's
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Speaker 2: not doesn't have to pay the quarterback. But they're like
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Speaker 2: you said, Billy, there's two ways to go about this.
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Speaker 2: Go get the mid level quarterback that throws for two
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Speaker 2: hundred and two yards and doesn't you know, doesn't kill you, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: doesn't make the mistakes, And go win that way and
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Speaker 2: feed your team and you know, water the plants and
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Speaker 2: other parts of the garden that rather than the quarterback,
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Speaker 2: sprinkle the money around the rest of the garden. That
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Speaker 2: is what they did. So maybe there's a paradigm shift.
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Speaker 2: You can clearly win without the franchise MVP quarterback because
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Speaker 2: Sam Donald not in that conversation.
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Speaker 3: Not in that conversation, but he can be just good
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Speaker 3: enough for you. It just like Baker Mayfield seemed like
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Speaker 3: he was just good enough for Tampa where I think
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Speaker 3: in week five Drew people were saying he was gonna
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Speaker 3: be the MVP, right, Like do you start thinking about
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Speaker 3: it back early part of the season, Like you can
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Speaker 3: have those dudes who have a run like that, and
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Speaker 3: for Donald, you know, he's got who knows what kind
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Speaker 3: of runway here because we talk about Josh Allen, Lamar
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Speaker 3: Jackson as just entering their prime Darnold was picked in
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Speaker 3: the same draft as those guys, and I think technically
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Speaker 3: is a little younger than both of them. So it's
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Speaker 3: a strange, strange thought of, Okay, who's gonna win more
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Speaker 3: Super Bowls?
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Speaker 1: Those guys?
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, who's gonna Darnold's gonna win more than
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Speaker 3: those guys?
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Speaker 1: Appeer in? Who knows?
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Speaker 2: But then again, the way it's built, can Seattle sustain this,
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Speaker 2: We'll see.
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Speaker 4: That's a huge question because it doesn't seem like so
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Speaker 4: many questions that that environment in the NFL now To
16:24
Speaker 4: do that.
16:24
Speaker 2: You had a lot of time because the game wasn't
16:26
Speaker 2: that compelling to think about the whole landscape of the
16:28
Speaker 2: league and where the Packers came away feeling better about
16:32
Speaker 2: the Packers right then? I then I probably did you
16:34
Speaker 2: know last week at this time.
16:36
Speaker 3: Does this feel like the nineties where the NFC is
16:39
Speaker 3: far superior than the AFC outside of just the quarterbacks?
16:42
Speaker 1: What I was thinking last.
16:43
Speaker 4: Night in some ways, But I think it doesn't feel
16:45
Speaker 4: like the nineties, and that there's no dominant.
16:46
Speaker 2: Again, the Patriots played this schedule, They didn't play really
16:50
Speaker 2: good defenses during the year like this was by They
16:53
Speaker 2: weren't ready for They weren't up to game speed, like,
16:55
Speaker 2: they weren't battle tested against the best.
16:58
Speaker 3: The best three defenses they played were the three teams
17:01
Speaker 3: they played in the playoffs.
17:02
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah it was. You saw what happened. Yeah, well
17:04
Speaker 1: they won three games.
17:05
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I mean they were losing in Denver
17:08
Speaker 2: until the snow hit and it got a little freaky
17:10
Speaker 2: like that.
17:11
Speaker 1: If I'm in Denver, I'm pissed today.
17:13
Speaker 2: If I'm in Buffalo, I'm pissed today, Like we'll go
17:15
Speaker 2: let get away because we would have played.
17:17
Speaker 1: Better than that. We would have given a better fight
17:19
Speaker 1: than they did.
17:20
Speaker 3: I'm interested though, because the way they were running the football,
17:23
Speaker 3: it did feel like the big brother that was playing
17:25
Speaker 3: against like his middle school friend or his brother's friends.
17:29
Speaker 2: And later in the show, I got to tell you guys,
17:32
Speaker 2: I got a story for you guys about street an
17:34
Speaker 2: encounter I had and it ties into Packers Bears, National Marquette.
17:40
Speaker 1: Day, day long drinking.
17:43
Speaker 2: So I got it's gonna be as it's gonna be
17:46
Speaker 2: a stem winder from game balls and kicks. The balls
17:49
Speaker 2: coming up. We'll start that after after six o'clock. Dolf
17:53
Speaker 2: is going to join us our halftime reporter. We will
17:54
Speaker 2: talk about the halftime show, which is what people want
17:57
Speaker 2: to argue about. We will talk about that as well. Uh,
18:02
Speaker 2: just random thoughts. We didn't have time to organize our thoughts.
18:05
Speaker 2: It's one thing about coming on this quickly after the game,
18:08
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really have organized cogent, coherent. We're
18:10
Speaker 2: gonna talk about this, this, this, and this. Let's just scatter,
18:13
Speaker 2: shoot and.
18:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, scatter, run around and have fun looking at the
18:18
Speaker 3: memes of people putting the worst throws you've ever seen
18:21
Speaker 3: together and saying Drake May and the super Bowl.
18:25
Speaker 4: This morning and it didn't help. But the Patriots receivers
18:27
Speaker 4: aren't catching anything either, just.
18:29
Speaker 3: Throwing into the guy named Pop and Booty.
18:34
Speaker 1: We got Budget, we got Bubbs in the NBA playing well.
18:38
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Hey, the Bucks made an acquisition. We'll
18:42
Speaker 2: talk about that. I was said, I texted you guys.
18:44
Speaker 2: If this continues at this pace, that's.
18:45
Speaker 1: Our lead story. Borrow. At five am, we are off
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Speaker 1: and running.
18:51
Speaker 2: The first day of the long cold winter without professional
18:55
Speaker 2: tackle football is upon us. But we're gonna get through
18:58
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Speaker 1: Worldwide of the iHeartRadio apps.
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Speaker 2: Streaming live on the ex, Facebook and Youtubes. We're all
19:16
Speaker 2: basking in the end of the National Football League season,
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Speaker 2: super Bowl sixty in the books in Santa Clara. We're
19:22
Speaker 2: on to Super Bowl sixty one, the road to Super
19:26
Speaker 2: Bowl sixty one. It's beginning right now. It's day one
19:28
Speaker 2: of getting ready for hopefully a Packers appearance in Super
19:31
Speaker 2: Bowl sixty one.
19:32
Speaker 3: Well, and we get to start that celebration here today
19:34
Speaker 3: because Drew the Four Letter Network has us covered because
19:38
Speaker 3: it is a Disney event, and they are going to
19:40
Speaker 3: Disney the hell out of today because they are doing
19:44
Speaker 3: like a full day's coverage at Disneyland of the super
19:49
Speaker 3: special Super Bowl handoff that happens between Santa Clara, San
19:54
Speaker 3: Francisco and Los Angeles as the host city for the
19:58
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So we'll get the first look at all
20:00
Speaker 3: the exciting logos and things like that, and then forget
20:03
Speaker 3: about it for eight months because as much as you
20:06
Speaker 3: touched on it, this is the off season. There really
20:08
Speaker 3: are two seasons, just like in some people's world, and
20:12
Speaker 3: just like in Wisconsin. I think there's two seasons in
20:15
Speaker 3: all reality. There's summer or orange barrel season and not
20:20
Speaker 3: orange barrel seasons in our in sports, for some there's football.
20:25
Speaker 1: Season and not football season.
20:27
Speaker 3: And today starts not football season football, which blows. However,
20:30
Speaker 3: we're close enough to knowing that baseball is around the
20:34
Speaker 3: horizon for the greatest of all teases, which is pitchers
20:38
Speaker 3: and catchers supporting and spring training because we had a
20:41
Speaker 3: little bit of taste, thesion of March madness.
20:46
Speaker 1: Indeed, for those who celebrate like the NBA playoffs, I
20:50
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna be a thing here this year,
20:52
Speaker 1: but yeah, it'll be. It'll that'll be fun viewing. Yeah,
20:55
Speaker 1: interesting playoffs.
20:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the NFL, And again we're not the halftime show.
21:03
Speaker 1: How do you handle it? On our show?
21:04
Speaker 2: People who hated it hated it, People who watched it
21:06
Speaker 2: liked it. People went in with an open mind. I'd
21:09
Speaker 2: like to hear from someone who did that right.
21:12
Speaker 1: There's probably six people out there.
21:13
Speaker 2: Probably I told uh, we already, we said the battle
21:16
Speaker 2: lines were drawn. We'll talk to Dolph about it. I
21:19
Speaker 2: happen to think it was like the most incredible stage performance.
21:22
Speaker 2: It's it's like they the weekend tried to do something
21:24
Speaker 2: like that.
21:25
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I didn't forget that part of it.
21:27
Speaker 4: Going through COVID, going through the doors and always that
21:30
Speaker 4: was somewhat interesting.
21:31
Speaker 2: Different sets and the staging of it was amazing like
21:35
Speaker 2: this in cinematography, and the way it was shot.
21:37
Speaker 1: Was it was like there was a wedding that took place.
21:40
Speaker 2: People got married, and the backstory of that I didn't
21:43
Speaker 2: know until like late last night, was that they invited
21:46
Speaker 2: bad money to their wedding and then he invited them
21:48
Speaker 2: to get married at the Super.
21:49
Speaker 1: Bowl and love that. How unbelievable is that I was looking.
21:52
Speaker 4: At I was looking forward to like it happening so
21:55
Speaker 4: people could get their takes out, whicheveryone did and then
21:58
Speaker 4: stop talking about it.
21:59
Speaker 1: Which won't happen.
22:00
Speaker 4: But I was like, let's get everyone get their takes
22:02
Speaker 4: out now, Let's get all my own person in the
22:04
Speaker 4: group text to get their opinion. Now, let's get everyone
22:06
Speaker 4: telling me how they like the other one, even though
22:08
Speaker 4: they probably didn't know the words.
22:09
Speaker 1: So that one.
22:09
Speaker 4: I'm sure a lot of people listen to kid rock
22:11
Speaker 4: for the first time yesterday. Just to make a point,
22:13
Speaker 4: how many people actually listen to that or bad Bunny.
22:16
Speaker 4: Let's be honest, It's just I wanted to get back
22:21
Speaker 4: to the football. But then I was like, well football
22:24
Speaker 4: wasn't good at all. It was also interesting that it
22:26
Speaker 4: was I don't remember a halftime show being somewhat light
22:30
Speaker 4: out still like you know what I mean. It was
22:32
Speaker 4: somewhat the sunlight was still off the West Coast. I
22:35
Speaker 4: just had ton't remember that happening in such a long time.
22:37
Speaker 4: That was also pretty interesting. You're gonna laugh at me
22:39
Speaker 4: for that part of it, Arman. That reminded me a
22:42
Speaker 4: lot of WrestleMania that they had in Santa Clara, because
22:45
Speaker 4: a lot of it is generally shot at night, and
22:48
Speaker 4: a lot of the fireworks and the pyrotechnics, all of
22:52
Speaker 4: that looks better when it's pitch black, and when the
22:54
Speaker 4: Undertaker walks out and he's supposed to rise from the grave.
22:57
Speaker 4: Rarely that's a golden hour in the game in the
23:01
Speaker 4: Golden City, and all of a sudden, it's like this doesn't.
23:03
Speaker 2: Feel and there was That was the tweet of the
23:06
Speaker 2: night for me regarding the halftime show was somebody said,
23:08
Speaker 2: this is the best halftime show ever performed by a.
23:11
Speaker 1: WWE star and I'm like, oh, that's a home run.
23:16
Speaker 1: That's WWE.
23:19
Speaker 2: Like you would have thought that would have given him
23:20
Speaker 2: some street cred with people who you know, flipped a
23:24
Speaker 2: channel and went to YouTube during the Yeah.
23:26
Speaker 3: That that audience definitely would not have been the flipping
23:30
Speaker 3: of the crowd as much deal from the the internet
23:32
Speaker 3: wrestling community. He was really good in WWE. I don't know,
23:36
Speaker 3: I didn't know any of the words. However, it was
23:38
Speaker 3: a vibe. It was a vibe exactly, that's the word.
23:41
Speaker 2: And I was telling Arman before the show, like, I
23:43
Speaker 2: didn't understand. I'm working on my Spanish.
23:45
Speaker 1: I got maybe.
23:48
Speaker 2: We had no chance of lyrics, but it doesn't. It
23:51
Speaker 2: didn't matter to me because it was a vibe. And
23:53
Speaker 2: the opening ceremony of the Olympics, the most chilling moment
23:56
Speaker 2: was Andrea Bocellier forming nesson Dorma in Italian and you
24:00
Speaker 2: br it's like that was incredible. I didn't understand a word.
24:02
Speaker 1: But it was amazing.
24:05
Speaker 3: You can't, but you know, we're we're When he falls
24:08
Speaker 3: through the roof, that was pretty sweet.
24:10
Speaker 1: That was Yeah.
24:12
Speaker 3: I ended up getting to watch most of it because
24:13
Speaker 3: my wife put the other to bed. The other Our
24:16
Speaker 3: youngest was like, guys, it's Super Bowl Sunday. I'm staying
24:19
Speaker 3: he's got me messed up, hardy.
24:20
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, well, I got to see the
24:22
Speaker 1: second half, but he was vibing.
24:23
Speaker 3: He had the hand up, he was waving his hands
24:25
Speaker 3: in the air like he just didn't care. But when
24:27
Speaker 3: he fell through the roof, Benson looked at me like.
24:33
Speaker 1: Is he okay? Like all right, hold on, that wasn't
24:37
Speaker 1: supposed to happen. No, it was.
24:39
Speaker 2: It was a show pretty cool, but yeah, it's that
24:42
Speaker 2: was baked. And now back back to the game in
24:44
Speaker 2: the football. If you look at this is the culmination
24:47
Speaker 2: of the season, culmination of the playoff run. Uh, the
24:50
Speaker 2: NFL season twenty twenty five that wrapped up yesterday. You
24:54
Speaker 2: had to give it a letter grade?
24:55
Speaker 1: What is it? The whole season entirety?
24:58
Speaker 2: From there by the way, we did see the the
25:00
Speaker 2: Seahawks play the Packers in the preseason a million years ago.
25:03
Speaker 1: But they did play. Yeah they did. Didn't Packers win? Yes?
25:06
Speaker 1: They did.
25:07
Speaker 2: Let's go pers beat the Packers, beat the chance I
25:10
Speaker 2: lost the Jets.
25:12
Speaker 3: It was also back when we actually thought Jalen Milroll
25:14
Speaker 3: might start for the Seahawks.
25:19
Speaker 4: But damn, that's Jane Milroll, Dylan Milroll man, I forgot
25:23
Speaker 4: about you can have.
25:25
Speaker 2: It's a little bit like you can have a great
25:28
Speaker 2: n CUAA tournament without a great championship game. Sure, right
25:31
Speaker 2: have you kind of if you think about it in
25:33
Speaker 2: those terms. But I would say this is a pretty
25:36
Speaker 2: damn compelling NFL regular season.
25:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. I'd give it.
25:39
Speaker 3: I'd give it an n A minus just because the
25:42
Speaker 3: final exam wasn't great. However, Drew and this is a
25:46
Speaker 3: really nerdy part of it. I loved how all of
25:49
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I don't think there was one playoff game
25:51
Speaker 3: played indoors in a world that has ever changing in
25:56
Speaker 3: terms of climate control. I don't know what there was
25:58
Speaker 3: a playoff game played indoors and it was all super compelling.
26:01
Speaker 1: Think about it.
26:02
Speaker 2: There were all those because you look at the season,
26:06
Speaker 2: Philadelphia coming off their Super Bowl season, like they didn't
26:10
Speaker 2: Kansas City, what a great soap opera, great soap opera,
26:14
Speaker 2: Kansas City, They're you know, kind of demise.
26:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, will the dynasty demise? Great demise?
26:19
Speaker 2: And now it's like, what's the what's next? And that
26:22
Speaker 2: got me thinking about who's the next Patriots? Because if
26:25
Speaker 2: we get you get a team like the Patriots every year,
26:28
Speaker 2: that's just gonna only make the league more enticing and
26:31
Speaker 2: more intoxicating than it already is. And if you could
26:34
Speaker 2: the fact that you can go worse to first and
26:36
Speaker 2: pick the top four in the draft and play in
26:38
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, and.
26:39
Speaker 4: It has I think two pronged effects on fan base.
26:41
Speaker 4: Is one, it truly gives everyone a hope, which is true.
26:43
Speaker 4: I mean, it gives everyone hope that they could be
26:45
Speaker 4: that team. So there's that's the best thing about the
26:47
Speaker 4: NFL right now. And every fan base has the hope
26:49
Speaker 4: and belief that they really could contend, hope as as
26:51
Speaker 4: other sports.
26:52
Speaker 1: That's the thing see it. But the flip side of
26:55
Speaker 1: that is it.
26:55
Speaker 4: Makes every fan base angry when they watch games and
26:58
Speaker 4: they watch the teams that win, and why can't we
27:00
Speaker 4: be that team?
27:01
Speaker 1: We should be that team? Coach and what a second
27:04
Speaker 1: year coach? Right mm hmm yep, yeah, absolutely right now.
27:08
Speaker 4: The one thing is when you talk about the season
27:10
Speaker 4: or the season I think was really good. I thought
27:12
Speaker 4: this playoffs and maybe the Super Bowl as well, devoid
27:14
Speaker 4: of star power a little bit That's kind of one
27:16
Speaker 4: thing that I think, you know, you could look back
27:18
Speaker 4: and say what it would it be underwhelming in terms
27:20
Speaker 4: of a spectacle. Maybe we'll think of Drake made that
27:22
Speaker 4: way and who knows down the road, Donald or some of.
27:24
Speaker 1: These other guys. But I or any of these guys
27:27
Speaker 1: are gonna be Hall of Famers. That's a great.
27:29
Speaker 2: Point because it's like, Okay, in the NBA, it's a
27:32
Speaker 2: players league, right.
27:34
Speaker 1: The NFL for a while was coaches and owners.
27:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's a quarterbacks league, and now is
27:40
Speaker 2: it a GM league.
27:42
Speaker 1: It's part of it.
27:44
Speaker 2: You got assembly, it's got it's spun that way now
27:48
Speaker 2: to where if your GM is good and can be
27:51
Speaker 2: a whiz kid and your CAP guy is good. Because
27:53
Speaker 2: I just mentioned Buffalo and it's like they got to
27:55
Speaker 2: be having Fomo.
27:56
Speaker 1: To the extreme.
27:57
Speaker 2: But now as you look forward to them next year,
28:00
Speaker 2: they're in cap prison and they have some.
28:03
Speaker 3: They got a brandow coach that's never been a head
28:05
Speaker 3: coach before, right, Like I mean, and this isn't there
28:08
Speaker 3: were so many parts of Seattle that are are compelling
28:11
Speaker 3: for the rest of the league, and how everybody you
28:13
Speaker 3: know tries to copy and emulate any little bit of it.
28:17
Speaker 3: But you got a dude that's thirty six years old
28:20
Speaker 3: or thirty eight years old. He was thirty six years
28:22
Speaker 3: old when he got the job as the head coach
28:24
Speaker 3: of the Seahawks, who never even played college football, right Like,
28:27
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of parts where in the
28:31
Speaker 3: midst I thought last year you were gonna get so
28:33
Speaker 3: much more into the Mike vrables and Dan Campbell's and
28:36
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn was supposed to be a hot name, right
28:40
Speaker 3: he was gonna be great because he's a former player.
28:42
Speaker 3: And he got this dude who looks like he actually
28:45
Speaker 3: could have taken that job at KMPG that he applied
28:48
Speaker 3: for when he was a coaching intern, Right Like, there's
28:51
Speaker 3: a lot of it where you can believe that it's
28:55
Speaker 3: supposed to look this way. And then the Seahawks and
29:00
Speaker 3: Patriots both said like there's two different ways to win
29:02
Speaker 3: in the NFL. It does show though that, like if
29:05
Speaker 3: you look at the teams that could go worse the
29:07
Speaker 3: first next year, you start trying to identify the ones
29:09
Speaker 3: that are building up into something, you also have to
29:12
Speaker 3: look at somebody who would possibly be in one of
29:15
Speaker 3: the better divisions and be kind of battle tested one
29:18
Speaker 3: one fan base that needs a little optimism here today. Hey,
29:21
Speaker 3: Minnesota Viking fans, that could be you.
29:23
Speaker 4: I mean they are well good coach, I guess yeah,
29:25
Speaker 4: their quarterback situation gets better.
29:27
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good pointing. Like, if I'm a
29:30
Speaker 1: Giants fan, I'm excited. That's the one you came up
29:32
Speaker 1: with this morning.
29:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, the team that could go like you know, they
29:36
Speaker 3: feel like an absolute double their win total team.
29:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. New Orleans would be.
29:40
Speaker 3: A worse the first situation anybody their quarterback basically, yeah,
29:45
Speaker 3: kind of anybody.
29:46
Speaker 1: I mean even Arman.
29:47
Speaker 3: Sorry, and one of his greatest punching bags on this
29:50
Speaker 3: NFL season was cam Ward, who might be one of
29:53
Speaker 3: the least discussed number one overall picks of all time.
29:55
Speaker 1: It was more of that. Yeah, however, you.
29:58
Speaker 3: Know, they get a new coach, new quarterback, or some
30:01
Speaker 3: new wide receivers, some new weapons, and all of a
30:04
Speaker 3: sudden they could find themselves not three and fourteen and
30:06
Speaker 3: ten and seven winning that division because the AFC South
30:08
Speaker 3: doesn't look all that daunting.
30:10
Speaker 1: Well, I think it shows you that you used load up.
30:12
Speaker 4: You get the right guys in your defensive front, you
30:15
Speaker 4: get the right, guys, multiple sets of guys putting pressure
30:17
Speaker 4: all the time in the quarterback on.
30:19
Speaker 1: The run game. It's a quite an equalizer.
30:21
Speaker 4: I mean, you can say what you want about what
30:23
Speaker 4: you think Seattle is on either side of the ball,
30:25
Speaker 4: but when they were just dominating up front last night
30:29
Speaker 4: and on the flip side, you had to be able
30:30
Speaker 4: to protect your quarterback. And that's one thing the Packers
30:33
Speaker 4: struggled to do consistently this year. So if you want
30:35
Speaker 4: to point to one thing how it affects us staying
30:38
Speaker 4: healthy upfront into protecting I think, yeah.
30:40
Speaker 1: Staying healthy is the number one.
30:41
Speaker 3: As our friend Chris and Lodi hitting us up on
30:43
Speaker 3: the Nikolay loddak Co, I'm talking text line. To win
30:45
Speaker 3: the NFL Championships, you need team needs to be healthy,
30:48
Speaker 3: get timely breaks, and the players that play to the
30:52
Speaker 3: level of their contracts.
30:54
Speaker 1: And that's a good one.
30:55
Speaker 3: However, like you look at some of the guys on
30:57
Speaker 3: Seattle last night, we got a lot of guys not
30:59
Speaker 3: making any money as over stars their contract.
31:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for them to do it with a big
31:05
Speaker 2: running back injury.
31:07
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But I mean the running back that wins
31:10
Speaker 3: the MVP rookie contract their best player rookie contract in Jap.
31:15
Speaker 2: I mean, didn't it look like he was It almost
31:17
Speaker 2: looked the Patriots defense had their moments this year, but
31:20
Speaker 2: didn't it look like they weren't prepared, Like for how.
31:22
Speaker 1: Fast the guy is when he turns the corner. That's
31:25
Speaker 1: some real speed. I got the patience of the hit
31:27
Speaker 1: the whole I love that. Yeah, you know, oh my goodness?
31:29
Speaker 1: All right? And then did they get the MVP right?
31:31
Speaker 1: Should it have been the kicker?
31:34
Speaker 3: I mean, if I would have had that two hundred
31:35
Speaker 3: and fifty to one at the Potawatamie Sports Book for
31:37
Speaker 3: Jason Myers, I would have said it should have been
31:38
Speaker 3: the kicker.
31:39
Speaker 1: Got it right? They made the difference in an era.
31:42
Speaker 1: That's another thing about the Seahawks.
31:43
Speaker 2: In an era, when everybody goes for it on fourth down,
31:45
Speaker 2: take the points, taking the points, take the points.
31:48
Speaker 3: He's watching this game and saying the point that guy
31:50
Speaker 3: is not moving the ball at all every three.
31:55
Speaker 2: And then some of the Seattle defenders in the locker
31:58
Speaker 2: room after were saying, yeah, well, you know, all due respect,
32:00
Speaker 2: but we looked at the film and we knew we
32:02
Speaker 2: had too much for them.
32:03
Speaker 1: We knew that they knew that this was gonna happen
32:06
Speaker 1: like they were. That's why they came out so hungry.
32:09
Speaker 1: They knew they were gonna have.
32:10
Speaker 3: A big Were they feeling like Dion when he said
32:12
Speaker 3: I won't make sure everybody has fun this week in
32:14
Speaker 3: Miami because I'm for four Myers. Everybody's coming to Miami.
32:17
Speaker 1: We know we about to roll these boys. We know
32:19
Speaker 1: we're about to take the charge out. That's a good Yeah,
32:22
Speaker 1: that was about it.
32:24
Speaker 2: You know who didn't get because of bad Bunny and
32:26
Speaker 2: the game and stuff. We I didn't hear a lot
32:28
Speaker 2: of barbs for Tarico and Collinsworth.
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Speaker 1: They were the only thing with in the first half.
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Speaker 1: Collins were took him a while.
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Speaker 2: The Rappers had around the fact that it was going
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Speaker 2: to be a defensive battle.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's good emphasized there have been four
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Speaker 3: first downs, Chris, I think so. Yeah, over emphasizing that.
32:44
Speaker 3: But you guys might be more astuteent aware of this
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Speaker 3: than it.
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Speaker 1: Chris.
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Speaker 3: Uh, Chris has let us up top get a little darker.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, my goodness, I.
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Speaker 1: Didn't think about that, Billy. I'm gonna have to do
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Speaker 1: some deep diving. I didn't see it now you gotta
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Speaker 1: be here on TV seven seven.
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Speaker 2: Three game, Balls and kicks coming up after six. Golf
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Speaker 2: will be here at six thirty. It's the Huddle. On
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: It's the Huddle.
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin nine to twenty, Milwaukee ten seventy Madison, Drew,
33:19
Speaker 2: Billy and Armon bringing it to you. We are combing
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Speaker 2: through last evening the culmination of the National Football League
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Speaker 2: season Super Bowl sixty. They're doing the handoff now it's disneyfied.
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Speaker 2: Oh god, it's gonna be awesome, Fie. Hopefully the Packers
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Speaker 2: will be there. That would be amazing.
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Speaker 3: Now and hopefully the field holds up next year. At
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Speaker 3: so far and there's not the issues like there was
33:41
Speaker 3: the last time the Super Bowl was there. Because I
33:42
Speaker 3: thought the field looked exceptional last night. Again like the
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Speaker 3: super nerdy esthetic parts of it.
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Speaker 1: It was a.
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Speaker 3: Glorious scene last night for football. I mean it was
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Speaker 3: there was not a cloud in the sky, sixty degrees.
33:53
Speaker 3: Everyone looked super cool on the sidelines. The podcast look Outdoor. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just really good.
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Speaker 4: It was a It was a good aesthetic of you
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Speaker 4: of a football was the way it was one of
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Speaker 4: those things that everyone talks about the way football is
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Speaker 4: we played and this and that. I don't really go
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Speaker 4: for all that stuff, but I will say this, it
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Speaker 4: is nice to have an o't throw a Super Bowl
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Speaker 4: that nobody's gonna complain about. Temperate weather no you know,
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Speaker 4: no rain, no snow. People will enjoy.
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Speaker 1: Being outside, obviously, uh sort of.
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Speaker 4: You know. It wasn't Pasadena, but that coastal California vibe.
34:23
Speaker 1: I was feeling the same thing. Obviously. We didn't get
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Speaker 1: the shot of the San Gabriel Mountains. Yeah, yeah, you
34:29
Speaker 1: don't get that. I'm gonna get full Rose Bowl vibes. However,
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Speaker 1: looks pretty good.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: A friend of mine was in the stands lucky enough
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Speaker 3: last night, and I was getting some some pictures and
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Speaker 3: some some videos from him. Uh, and it just looked
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Speaker 3: next level cool on the on the visuals and the shots.
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Speaker 1: And it does.
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Speaker 3: Make you think, like our friend Tim tweeted at us
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Speaker 3: and said, I'm glad it's over. Now it's time for
34:53
Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers, as everyone zero and zero to
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Speaker 3: get back and win Super Bowl sixty one.
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Speaker 2: Ye, here we go, here we go, let's go starts now.
35:01
Speaker 2: I was crunching some numbers the other day and again
35:04
Speaker 2: they got me. Even before this going on Saturday, I
35:06
Speaker 2: was looking around, surfing around, looking for stuff to say
35:08
Speaker 2: on this TV show that any on weekends, wis on
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Speaker 2: twelve Sports Saturday. But for a while, sitting next to
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Speaker 2: Dario Melendez, Uh I had I was looking it up.
35:18
Speaker 2: When the Packers won the Super Bowl with fire if
35:20
Speaker 2: when Ron Wilfredie White and crewise before your time, Billy
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Speaker 2: Arman remembers that one though.
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Speaker 1: You remember the oh do I ever? Oh do you
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Speaker 1: come on? Yes, running to the tape.
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Speaker 2: So that's when you were in the sweet spot of fandom. Yeah, yeah,
35:33
Speaker 2: even in your wheelhouse. They were right in the wheelhouse.
35:35
Speaker 2: That's what we say is the sweet spot of sports fandom,
35:38
Speaker 2: all right. So when they did, when the Packers went there,
35:40
Speaker 2: it had been thirty years since the Packers won a
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and in those thirty years of stumbling through
35:46
Speaker 2: the wilderness, they went to the playoffs five times, once
35:49
Speaker 2: in a strike shortened year.
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Speaker 1: That gets an asterisk that Bart Starr.
35:53
Speaker 2: Five playoff appearances in thirty years. It's been fifteen years
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Speaker 2: since the Packers last won a championship. It'll be sixteen
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Speaker 2: when they when they reconvene and they've made the playoffs
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Speaker 2: twelve of those fifteen years and played in a bunch
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Speaker 2: of championship games.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit different, much different.
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Speaker 2: But that hunger and the culture that we're in in
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Speaker 2: the if you don't win, why play, if you don't
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Speaker 2: win the big prize, why play?
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Speaker 1: It's to me it was like whoa, that was stark
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Speaker 1: and people.
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Speaker 2: I do like the idea that you go into every
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Speaker 2: season thinking you have a chance to make it to
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Speaker 2: the super Bowl, well.
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Speaker 3: And not even necessarily just thinking drew damn near expecting
36:32
Speaker 3: it or or like on the point of you know,
36:36
Speaker 3: the old cliche of super Bowl or bust.
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Speaker 1: It feels like.
36:39
Speaker 3: Twenty teams going to the super Bowl or fan base
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Speaker 3: is go into the year believing in super.
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Speaker 1: Bowl or absolutely yeah true.
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Speaker 2: And now you can expand that because we've seen a
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Speaker 2: team go worse to first, we've seen a team you
36:51
Speaker 2: had oh man, just some of the things like we
36:54
Speaker 2: were talking about Tarico and stuff, some of the stuff
36:56
Speaker 2: that they pointed out early on they were trying to
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Speaker 2: introduce the quarterbacks because the thought it was gonn ended
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Speaker 2: up being a defensive game. But you don't cast it
37:02
Speaker 2: that way because they should have done the pass rushers. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you got to establish the quarterbacks like I didn't. It
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Speaker 2: didn't dawn on me. Sam Darnold the first USC quarterback
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Speaker 2: to start in a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: Hilarious stat that's hard to belie. Larious. Sta was amazing.
37:13
Speaker 2: And Drake May is the second youngest guy to ever
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Speaker 2: start a Super Bowl behind Dan Marino who also got
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Speaker 2: crushed by the forty nine ers, and his the only
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Speaker 2: one he played in.
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Speaker 3: And now this is the second Super Bowl that Drake
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Speaker 3: May has ever attended in that stadium.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and he somehow played worse than Cam Newton.
37:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a Carolina Jersey on right when he
37:31
Speaker 4: was right Cam Newton Jersey Newton.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't. He didn't Keishaw Nixon a fumble recovery. Yes,
37:39
Speaker 2: he did not make any business decisions. He just wasn't great.
37:43
Speaker 4: But and he didn't refuse to answer questions after what
37:47
Speaker 4: they deal with Cam after.
37:48
Speaker 1: The game and didn't want to answer no, And he said,
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Speaker 1: I am a sore loser.
37:53
Speaker 3: I show you a loser, show me a good losers.
37:56
Speaker 1: That's one of the all time moments.
37:58
Speaker 4: My favorite quotes all the time, like either love or
38:00
Speaker 4: you hate Cam Tevin thinks that was one of the
38:02
Speaker 4: most encapsulating moments of that. Yeah, so that that's true.
38:06
Speaker 4: That's yes, the Packers have had more success in between,
38:08
Speaker 4: here's no question.
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Speaker 1: And well, and we talked about it now it's a
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Speaker 1: GM league. Both GMS had.
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Speaker 2: Packers strong Packers ties with Elliott Wolf and John Schneider
38:15
Speaker 2: John Schnyder win in two Super Bowls with two different
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Speaker 2: coaches and quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: That's not easy to do, and I.
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Speaker 3: Believe first ever to do it with not one single
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Speaker 3: player on the roster. Yes, like the complete and we're
38:30
Speaker 3: gonna get into game balls and kicks to the balls,
38:32
Speaker 3: I know, into the next hour.
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Speaker 1: But I got a couple that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you want to think of the folks from
38:37
Speaker 3: Seattle that had been a part of this. What does
38:41
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson still feel this effect? Like, is he still
38:45
Speaker 3: feeling this or has he been so far removed?
38:48
Speaker 1: And by what a Russell Wilson thin man.
38:53
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson doesn't even have a wood chip in the fight,
38:56
Speaker 3: that not even the mulch outside that he cares about.
38:59
Speaker 1: The I like you you think about it where.
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Speaker 3: He's like, well, man, if only I wouldn't have demanded
39:05
Speaker 3: every single dollar and wouldn't have regressed significantly.
39:08
Speaker 1: Could I have been Sam Darnold? Right?
39:10
Speaker 3: Like, I wonder how many guys in the league would
39:13
Speaker 3: put themselves and be like, could I be that guy?
39:15
Speaker 3: You could I have stayed there?
39:17
Speaker 2: You need Denver to win the Super Bowl next year,
39:19
Speaker 2: and you could say, get rid of Russell Wilson and
39:21
Speaker 2: you're gonna gonna get the measure for rings.
39:25
Speaker 1: Because he's just gotta go, was it me, mister unlimited?
39:28
Speaker 3: And New York is just gonna be chopping to get
39:31
Speaker 3: his ass out of there. Then if that happens, oh
39:33
Speaker 3: my goodness.
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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven seven.
39:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game wasn't great, but I thought Collinsworth and
39:39
Speaker 2: Tarico were good.
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Speaker 1: The production was good, the camera shots.
39:43
Speaker 4: I don't expect any different from those two though, at
39:45
Speaker 4: least I personally don't.
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Speaker 1: He just feels super, really good.
39:49
Speaker 4: And in a day they've been they've been busy all
39:51
Speaker 4: day with the Olympics coverage and going back and forth,
39:53
Speaker 4: and they replaced.
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Speaker 2: A legend because Fred Gordelli was their longtime guy calling
39:58
Speaker 2: the shots producer directory and he's retired, so this was
40:02
Speaker 2: they were without him, so they ushered in a new era.
40:05
Speaker 2: And I did think Collinsworth was calling out like Drake
40:09
Speaker 2: May and he was doing it. Yeah, Sam Darnold, he
40:13
Speaker 2: exercised the demons and no longer will be known for
40:17
Speaker 2: seeing ghosts.
40:18
Speaker 1: But Drake mayce awesome ghosts.
40:20
Speaker 3: Drake may s awesome ghosts. He saw like a whole
40:22
Speaker 3: horror movie of ghosts. You see it from the end zone,
40:24
Speaker 3: and there's there plays to be made. There's a reason
40:28
Speaker 3: why Stafford and the Rams were able to put up
40:30
Speaker 3: twenty seven against the Seahawks. But uh, man, you watched
40:34
Speaker 3: this team in Seattle. You see a lot of pressure
40:38
Speaker 3: up front. You didn't see anybody uh pulling up like
40:41
Speaker 3: Rashaun Garritt. So we do need to get a little
40:43
Speaker 3: bit younger in the edge rusher department. Yes, I thought
40:46
Speaker 3: we were gonna see the first edge rusher MVP since
40:49
Speaker 3: Von Miller in that stadium. Derek Hall, I thought was
40:52
Speaker 3: going to be in the conversation for it with a
40:54
Speaker 3: strip sack, couple of sacks. But yes, everybody was too
40:56
Speaker 3: good for that front.
40:58
Speaker 4: Ponder during the break when Mac Jones better last night
41:00
Speaker 4: than Drake May for the Patriots.
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Speaker 1: No, okay, Well, Bill didn't have to. I did not
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Speaker 1: have to any of that. No, no, Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 2: Hey, first hours in the books, got the sleep out
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Speaker 2: of our eyes, Shooting shirts off, let's get it.
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Speaker 1: It's the Huddle on Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin.