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Cameron Boozer, Darryn Peterson or AJ Dybantsa? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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superstar heading to the NBA. We're now talking to the
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president of Scout Central and a former Pelicans executive, Dan
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Purcell. Dan, what's up, bud?
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What's happening? Can we, can I we first honor
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that? The great Quinton Coppols.
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I am on a a podcast or live chat, whatever you want to call
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it, live broadcast with Quinton Copples, a North China.
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Is my. Tar Heel legend.
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You. Do not.
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Even think this isn't awesome for me Quinton.
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Indeed, I appreciate that opportunity to talk with you
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tonight. Absolute legend.
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Awesome, I didn't know I was going to be on Quinton too.
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So, Dan, we've been arguing back and forth.
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Dabanza. Dabanza Peterson and Boozer.
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Now I think Boozer is going to Indiana.
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Something tells me Indiana's going to get that pick the third
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or second pick, no matter where they're picking.
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It's it seems like it's called, it seems like it's going to be
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camp Boozer. They love him.
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I've been reading a lot of different things about what they
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think of him and how how big of a young superstar he is and and
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what he is going to be in the NBA.
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You look at the three guys and me and Quentin have been going
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back and forth. Who do we believe is the number
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one guy in this draft class we've now?
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They're all talented, they're all special.
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Even Wilson from North Carolina, he's a special offensive player.
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Who do you feel should go #1 and why?
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This is a loaded question. So there's so much talent at the
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top of this. And Errol, if you remember last
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time I told you 26 was going to be the greatest draft since 2003
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from the very first time you and I ever met, I told you this was
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before everybody else was on the bandwagon.
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I literally told you O 6 or 26 was going to be the best draft
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since LeBron, if not as good at, not better, if not better than
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LeBron, Carmelo Wade, Bosch, all those guys, right?
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So you kind of have to walk through the teams here first.
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You have Indiana, So if Indiana gets the number one pick, The
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thing is they have Matheran and Halliburton already.
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So there's so much top end talent here that you can pick
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and choose who you want to go with Peterson.
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And Peterson is better than Matheran by a long shot.
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But The thing is, if you've already invested so much in
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Matheran and he does roughly the same type of game, he's not as
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good. But your front court, since you
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lost Miles Turner is just you pretty much your full front
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court is done in terms of star power, right?
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So I do like I do like Boozer if it's Indiana, But then you have
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to look at like, you know, do we go to Sacramento next?
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If Sacramento gets the number one pick, they're probably going
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Peterson. You know, if it's Brooklyn,
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they're going to go Peterson most likely.
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If it's Washington, Washington is a little different there.
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I still think they go Deboncha or Peterson there.
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It's a toss up. A lot of people love Deboncha.
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I I like, I loved a bunch. I, I think he's amazing.
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He's very Kevin Durantish in his game, but he's not 611, you know
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what I mean? He can get to his spots, but he
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doesn't have that separation that Kevin Durant has when it
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comes to getting to his spots on the floor, right?
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So are they all great guys? All three are really good, good
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kids, Really, really good kids. This whole thing about Peterson
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and all this, he's injured like he's literally having issues
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with his body. Part of it is his fault.
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Part of it is just the fact that injuries happen and things like
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that happen, right? So if with an NBA team, you have
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to remember you have sleep doctors, you have hydration, you
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have PTS, you have these layers of people.
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So I'm not worried about Peterson at all.
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He was rarely hurt in high school too.
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He had a couple ankle sprains. His knee was, you know, hurt one
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of the times, but he was more like a growing pain thing
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because he grew another two inches between I think it was
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his junior and senior year high school.
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So I don't he doesn't have this huge like injury history, but
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Debancha is probably the most solid of everybody in terms of
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if you want that balance of scoring, high end talent, All
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Star caliber player, he's going to be an 8 time All Star.
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Like it's not like he sucks, you know what I mean?
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We're we're we're literally pulling like just hairs off of
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these guys trying to figure out which one is better than the
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other. And then I think those three,
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they solidified themselves as as top three.
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And then you have the next one, which is, you know, I'm not a
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big like I love Kingston Flemings.
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I don't think he's in that second tier.
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But I do love Caleb Wilson, I love Acuff.
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Michael Brown is another one. Michael Brown, I don't know,
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whatever you want to call him, all those guys are in the next,
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you know, next kind of tier of players.
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So top three, you're probably getting a franchise player.
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Doesn't matter which one it is. You're probably very happy if
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you're the 3rd pick in the draft because then you don't have any
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other pressure or the speculation of, oh, well,
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Devanche ended up being better than Peterson or Peterson ended
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be up better than Boozer, or Boozer was better.
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You know what I mean? You're just kind of like, well,
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we were third and we just took the best player on the board and
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we're just going to make it work.
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It's it's very hard to understand when you watch these
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guys and how can you predict what these guys are going to
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transition into with the NBA? Because we've seen a lot of
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great young players get drafted very, very high and do nothing.
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And, and unfortunately, the NBA is completely different.
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It's faster, they're more athletic.
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They're just the best of the best.
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And that's where me and Quentin go back and forth because I look
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at all three of these guys and I am, I am a Duke fan.
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I am a Duke fan, but I've been watching Cambuser when he was in
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8th grade, just like I was watching Cooper flag.
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I understand all these guys are the best in their state, the
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best in the nation or whatever side of the nation they're from.
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The only problem I have with the Banjo is he's not a good
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three-point shooter. Now he can develop 1, he can
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develop one, but it's very, very hard when you're going into the
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NBA, unless you're Kobe Bryant, you're going to shoot like 203
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pointers in the morning, 203 pointers in the afternoon and
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203 pointers at night and, and wake up early in the morning.
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If the Banjo doesn't have that work ethic and I know he he
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wants to play 42 minutes. We heard this.
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There's a lot of back and forth of what who who he is and how
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hard of a work he is. The guy that I like is Cam
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because I watch his inside game. I I like his his his presence on
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the on the basketball court, his leadership with the Duke Blue
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Devils and his father, Carlos Boozer.
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We watched him play for Duke. We've watched him play.
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He was a good player. This kid is way better than his
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dad is his ability to shoot the ball.
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He could shoot the three. He can get inside.
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He can do all those things. And that's why I go back and
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forth with Quentin, because Quinton has his thoughts.
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He likes, I think he said he likes to banja.
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I, I like Boozer and I, I'm not worried.
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I think Peterson's probably the most talented out of all of
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them. I really do believe that with
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all around talent, I think if he could just play the game and not
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put himself out there, I think Peterson could be the best one
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out of all of them. But I worry about him because
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we've heard things off the court about what he has said to the
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coaching staff. There are there are some things
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that have been going on or repeatedly going on that he told
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the coach that he doesn't want to go back into the game.
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We've heard that. And and here's another thing,
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you mentioned the other guys and you go back and forth with
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Flemings. Flemings reminds me of Donovan
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Mitchell, a bigger version of Donovan Mitchell.
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He can play defense, he's a shutdown defender.
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And that's what Donovan Mitchell was when he was playing for
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Louisville. He was a he averaged 11 points.
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He wasn't considered a score. And that's why the Knicks
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decided to pass up on him. They made a mistake because it
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developed a shot when he came into the NBA with Utah and
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became a superstar. I look at Flemings.
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If he goes to the right place, if he develops that 3 point shot
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like Donovan Mitchell did, he's he's bigger, he's longer he and
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he can play. I think he could play the one.
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I think he could play the two. I think he's better off playing
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the two in the NBA. I mean, I, I, Kingston is, is
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interesting because I saw him. There's a tournament in Dallas
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every year for high school and Kingston was in it.
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So was Isidor Newman out of New Orleans.
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That's where Chris Cenac went before he, you know, went to
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Missouri or you know, the link Academy in Missouri.
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And when I saw Kingston in junior year, I thought, man,
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this kids, he's good. Like he's he's he was a three
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star I think then and I'm like this, he's very good, crafty
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with the ball, can get up. You know, the two year leap on
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his development has been on in, in my opinion, it's some of the
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most unprecedented leaps you can get because most of the time
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guards like that are pretty much have a skill set by the time
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they get to be a senior in high school.
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And then they're just honing that craft, right?
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Whether you're a pick and roll point guard, whether you're a
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facilitator, you're a defender, whatever that is, you've kind of
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like, 'cause you're not going to most likely grow anymore or get
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bigger, right? Kingston grew a little bit, but
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his body frame is still almost the same as it was.
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He's yeah, he's gotten a little stronger as I think everybody
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does as they get into, especially Houston, you know,
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you know, Calvin's not out there having those guys just jog
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around, like those guys are working 24/7.
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And you know, Kingston, I actually see him more like D
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Aaron Fox, to be honest with you.
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Like that's the type of guy that I think Kingston is going to be
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like if he gets into a system that will let him do that, if he
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ends up somewhere that doesn't, then you might see a regression.
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And he's, he's a, to me, he's hit or miss here in this draft.
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He's gonna be a core guy for you.
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He's going to be a guy that's around for seven to 10 years and
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you're going to build, help build around.
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He's going to be like your Drew Holiday secondary type player.
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You know, like a Drew Holiday Prime player is like the best
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second or third option you could have on a team.
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Look what happened with Boston, right?
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He was what, the third option? And they were unbelievable with
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him. So somebody like that, I think
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that's more Kingston's flow there.
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But he got so much better at shooting the three.
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He was always crafty around the rim and he could always defend.
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He uses his IQ and he has a little bit of length to him.
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So Kingston's a big. I think he's just hit or miss
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though. I think he's either going to be
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one of those guys that is just a core guy or he becomes a career
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back IT backup like Tyus Jones, Somebody like that that, you
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know, that is a really good player and teams want that
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player, but he's just never going to stick in one place for
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a long time. So Acuff has gotten a lot of
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hype because of the tournament he's had so far, and obviously
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they beat Arizona tonight. He could definitely justify it
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even more. You look at an NBA executive now
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thinking maybe he could be a top five pick and there was someone
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saying I might take him over Peterson.
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With the Peterson having the injury concerns, what do you
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think his ceiling is as an NBA player and do you think there is
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top five potential for him? Petey, you're talking about my
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guy Acuff. I love Acuff.
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He was my favorite interview. So I did interviews with every
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lottery pick or it was like the top 1415 two years ago when they
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were juniors in high school. I did that on purpose because I
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wanted to, like I wanted to get them before they got inundated
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with PR and all agents and all that stuff, right?
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And Acuff was the best interview that I had.
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He is so intelligent and he's so high IQ and it was crazy because
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a lot of people thought he was this ball dominant point guard
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who just could score like a Team USA going into his junior year,
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I believe it was. They really thought that he was
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not going to make Team USA because he just dominated the
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ball the whole time. And it took him all this time to
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like understand that now that he's with Cal that he can get
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off of it and get it back and be way more effective.
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If you watch Arkansas throughout the year, he's gotten way better
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at getting off the ball, coming back to it within the set and
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then finishing up what he needs to do right.
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His shooting has gotten so much better than when it was at IMG.
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Like he was a volume contest guy at IMG his first year and it was
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not very good. And I even talked to him.
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It was nice of him. He actually asked me what can I
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do? Like if I'm going to get the
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NBA, what do I need to do? I said you need to shoot threes
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better. Like you take bad threes.
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And he's gotten so much better at contest off the pick and roll
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off, you know, off of secondary action.
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Like right there, they just ran twist on that highlight right
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there. Like all of those things like
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you're seeing him do, he's always finished.
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But if you look at his body now, if you guys didn't notice, his
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father played, I believe at Detroit, University of Detroit.
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I think that's where it was. And he was a very different type
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of player. And he has got more body to him
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than his dad had for him or that his dad had.
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And his body is one that you look for in an NBA point guard.
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You are looking for big, strong, long guys who can get to the
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rim, who can shoot, but they can also facilitate off of this.
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And I think the way his like he, he plays so too low sometimes
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that it's almost impossible with his strength for anybody to get
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a bump on him. So I think, you know, Acuff is,
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I think he's better than Kingston in this sense.
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I he's not in the top three. Let's just make sure we're all
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clear on that. Quentin's going to agree with
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me. 100 million that I can see already.
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I can see it already. And I actually think Acuff could
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be the 4th pick. He'll probably end up being the
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5th or 6th, but that's how deep if think about it this way.
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If Darius Acuff was in the draft last year, where would he go?
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Number one, he'd be the first pick he'd.
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Have been the second or third pick.
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Max flag was the number one pick regardless.
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You have to remember that flag flag.
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Was supposed to be in this class.
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If everybody remembers he was in this class and then he
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reclassified to go in the one before this, well, I was.
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I was guessing what you were going to say.
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I thought I'm a Cooper, I'm a Cooper Flag fan.
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Everybody knew I had Cooper Flag going one like 8 years ago when
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I watched him play high school ball.
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I was like, this guy's special, he's going to be the face of
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United States basketball. And I've gone back and forth and
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I know Q's got a question for you.
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I look at Cambuser and I look at Flag, you know.
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And could you have imagined if if Flag decided to play one more
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year with this Duke Blue Devil team, but that team right now, I
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mean, it, it would be ridiculous.
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And and that's the thing I'm I'm looking forward to seeing both
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these guys develop as NBA players and see how we can
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compare them in the future when it comes to playing college
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ball. And both maybe one wins a
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national champion and the other one, you know, fell short
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because of, you know, John Shire, as we all know.
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And you hate John Shire. I hear it all the time, but I
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listen. I can't stand John Shire.
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Why? I can't stand him because I
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don't think he knows what he's doing.
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I really don't. I think it's Coach K, Rudy
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recruiting these guys. He still lives in over there on
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the university, at the University House over there.
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He's he's always at the practices, He's always working
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out with the team. So yeah, I think Coach K has a
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lot to do with some of the recruiting guys that they have
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over there. But I just don't like John.
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I I, it's not, not to hate on him.
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I just, I never saw him as, oh, that's the guy I want to run the
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team. After Coach K stepped down, I
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wanted Bobby Hurley. That's who I wanted.
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I and everybody says, well, what?
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Bobby Hurley just got fired. Look at the program, look at the
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program he was coaching at. If he was over there with Duke,
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he'd still get the recruiting class that John Shire has.
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So that was my argument. I think Bobby Hurley's had, you
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know, he's been kicked in the butt too many times.
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That's all I'm going to say. Got top three right, so an ideal
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mock draft situation. Me personally, I think Kim
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Boozer is more of a system guy. I think it's something that you
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mentioned earlier, whatever, where I feel like AJ has the
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versatility and he's a wing and you can kind of place him in
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places to make him at seed and be great at it.
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And a mock draft. Where were you watching to
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Indiana and whoever who else will be there will be thirteen
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that we can just say Brooklyn Pelicans.
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Yeah, Sacramento. Well, that would be Atlanta
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those. 2/3 remember. That would be Atlanta Pelicans,
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right, Because they got they traded out right, right.
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So give me those top three in regards to who you would see fit
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best with the system that they got going on because AJ wouldn't
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fit with Indiana, right, because they got passcode.
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So it wouldn't make sense. He's good enough, I mean.
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Yeah, but. Great players.
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You've been on teams with great players, sometimes great
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players. You make the system right, You
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don't. It's like it doesn't change
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between sports if you have a A. *.
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You're going to like, if you have Cam Newton, you are going
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to make the team around Cam Newton.
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Let's just be real, you know, make those.
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Adjustments. Yeah.
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Now I think it's more fit and yeah, Indiana, let's just say
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Indiana goes one. I do think they actually go
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boozer I if the the thing with Peterson is Peterson has such a
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high ceiling. Like he could be just under Kobe
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Bryant Good. In my opinion, as long as he's
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working, doing, being healthy, doing what he's you know,
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everything kind of goes right. Remember, Kobe wasn't always.
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Healthy. No.
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No, he wasn't. He wasn't.
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He wasn't no he needs he had checked to ride on for the first
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few years till he matured, got better at his body.
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I mean, he was 18 years old and he was out here competing, which
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is great. So Peterson by far has the
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highest ceiling. Like he's a guy who could be a
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Hall of Famer first ballot. Like you could win 3
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championships, 4 championships with the guy.
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Like that's the talent that he has.
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So if Indiana wants to go that route, that means they're saying
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it's Halliburton, Peterson, and then they're going to try to
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figure out Mathrin and his money, right?
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But then your front court is absolutely gutted.
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You're going to be playing, you know, you're going to try to be
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gluing pieces of paper into the cement wall, trying to figure
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out your front court because now you got to go against Boozer the
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rest of your career. You still got jokage out there,
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you know what I mean? Still got sanguine.
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You got all these other guys that you're going to have to
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play eventually, you know? So, yeah, if it's Indiana, I
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think I think Boozer is the best pick for them.
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If it's, let's say it's Utah, for example, right?
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Utah's a big wild card here. Danny loves talent.
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That's Danny's. Danny Age's big thing is he
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loves. Talent.
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Like if you're a dude who just is, is talented like Jaylen
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Brown was or Tatum or anybody like that, Danny is all about
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he's just going to go for you immediately, right?
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So for him it's Peterson, It's Peterson or bust right there
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because the talent's so high. And but if you get to
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Washington, what is Washington going to do now?
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Now you have Anthony Davis, you have all these other pieces, you
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have Trey Young. Like how does that all work?
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I think they I think they go to Bancha if it's Washington, you
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know what I mean? Like it's a.
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Better thing. In that in that grouping now,
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yeah, obviously ADS at the end of his career, Trey Young
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probably is 3 to 4 years Max of where he's at, you know, where
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in terms of like peak. But like Sacramento, Sacramento,
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I think they go to Bancha just the way that their teams built,
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you know, But then if you have a wild card, let's just say
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Atlanta, you know, let's just say the Pelicans start sliding
20:11
again and Atlanta ends up with the number one pick.
20:14
They're probably going Peterson. Right, they're probably going
20:17
with. The most talented, Yeah.
20:19
So the draft, the, the rule of the draft is you always go for
20:23
the best projected talent, the best talent.
20:27
How good is that guy going to be in six years when that, when
20:29
that second contract is up? You know, that's the big thing.
20:33
You have 7 years to rent. In essence, you're renting a guy
20:36
for seven years and hopefully he sticks because you're winning,
20:38
right? Like that's the whole thing.
20:40
And then how much trade value does he have in year 6?
20:42
Those are the two things that you really look at in terms of,
20:45
you know, the draft. You hear that arrow, you hear
20:48
that potential. You know, I was trying to tell
20:49
you that before you could say potential.
20:51
Potential doesn't sell anything I told you.
20:54
Potential doesn't sell me anything.
20:55
You just had a great tell us this.
20:56
OK, yeah, Remember Markel? Remember Markel's faults?
20:59
Remember him? Oh, potential.
21:01
Look at the potential. The guy couldn't hit a free
21:03
throw. So please stop it.
21:05
Yeah, he's. Talking about Mark, you want to
21:07
hear the Markel Fault story? Arrow.
21:08
Let's hear it. So, so Danny Ainge, you know,
21:11
this is I think Danny's really smart.
21:14
The story goes that Danny had Markel Foltz come in and they
21:19
went for a walk around the facility around.
21:23
But I don't know if it's town. I don't know if they were a TD
21:25
yard in anyways. And there was a team Doctor Who
21:29
trailed them and Markel did not know that the doctor was
21:32
trailing them. And the doctor was watching how
21:35
Markel Foltz walked and turn corners and how he stopped at
21:40
stop signs, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, to find like they
21:43
because they knew about the foot injury, they knew about the
21:45
stuff that was going on with him.
21:47
And so they, they walked I guess like a mile, mile and a half,
21:49
something like that. And the doctors then told Danny,
21:53
you cannot draft this guy. He's going to have foot and
21:56
ankle problems his whole career. And they literally took a
21:59
picture of him and Danny and both of Markel Foltz's feet were
22:02
pointed out like this. And Danny went done and he and
22:07
that's when he traded and he got Jaylen.
22:10
I think it was Jaylen Brown. Yeah.
22:11
Jaylen Brown at 3:00. And that story, that's one of
22:14
the most resonating stories of Danny Ainge that I can remember.
22:17
Like, that's the stuff. Like, that's like mad scientist
22:20
stuff. So the cool, good, good.
22:22
Markel Fultz shout out, by the way.
22:25
I like to throw curveballs. We are talking to president of
22:28
of Scout Central and former Pelicans executive Dan Purcell,
22:31
a friend of the show, 1 of the Smarter basketball knowledgeable
22:35
guys when it comes to college athletes and who you're going to
22:39
draft in these drafts. This is the guy you go to if you
22:42
want to have, if you have questions about a talent OR a
22:45
certain person or player that is coming out of the draft and even
22:48
in the future. Because he told me 2026 and 27
22:53
are two really good drafts. So even next year, I think you
22:55
told me that 2027 is going to be a big one as well.
22:59
But I wanted to get into the Knicks and to me, a lot of
23:04
people are questioning the team at the Celtics.
23:07
They got Tatum back and right now the Tatum and the Celtics
23:11
are in that second spot, but not by much.
23:14
And even if the Knicks get the two and and the Celtics are the
23:17
three, this is how it really felt last year.
23:20
The Celtics play too. They have homecourt advantage.
23:23
The Knicks play them in the second round.
23:24
So we know how this is all going to fall.
23:27
But I think the Knicks are a little bit better of a team this
23:29
year. I think they're better coached.
23:31
And I'm not taking shots at Tom Thibodeau.
23:33
I love Tom. He's a New York guy.
23:35
He's he's from the Connecticut area.
23:37
He grew up a Knick fan. So I love Tom Thibodeau and I'm
23:39
not taking shots at him, but Mike Brown, to me, as long as
23:43
he's not shaking people's hands or smiling at the opposing teams
23:47
when they they lose, I like Mike Brown.
23:49
I think he's coached his team very, very well this year.
23:52
He's taking a Cavalier team to the Finals.
23:54
Yes, they lost, but he took him there.
23:56
He was good with Sacramento until he got fired.
23:58
I think to me he's a kind of a different well-rounded coach and
24:03
I think that he's getting these guys to start to buy in.
24:06
Look at Karl Anthony Towns in the last couple of weeks.
24:09
He's buying in OG Ananobi, even though a lot of people think
24:12
he's an up and down type of player.
24:14
He's a great two way player. He's probably one of the best
24:16
perimeter defenders the NBA has. And then you have Mikhail
24:20
Bridges. Even though the Knicks gave up
24:22
five first round draft picks, I still think Mikhail Bridges is
24:25
going to play a big part if the Knicks are going to win a
24:27
championship. What do you think the Knicks
24:30
need to win a championship going into the playoffs this year?
24:34
Health. That's it.
24:36
The Knicks have everything you need in a team to come out of
24:39
the East now. Can they win it all?
24:42
That's if you have San Antonio or OKC sitting on the other
24:46
side. I'm not sure that anybody is
24:47
going to beat them. Those are the two best teams in
24:49
the league in my. So that's just beat OKC last
24:51
night by team. So good the Knicks beat that.
24:54
Knicks kicks the crap out of the Spurs both times.
24:56
One, they won the Cup that. Doesn't mean the Spurs are
24:58
young. We're not.
24:59
We are. They just March 20.
25:01
Six in the South, like the Spurs, are pretty much locked up
25:04
where they are going to be. Dan Dan Quitney is a he has a
25:08
love fest for the South. This guy, No, this is my team.
25:11
I. Just said it is a love fetish.
25:13
Nothing wrong with it. Well, he should be excited like
25:15
they just got their best player back.
25:16
Like they you should be excited now the the Boston is very, very
25:22
good still, right? Like it's not like they're bad.
25:24
They weren't bad before. Front court depth is going to be
25:27
an issue as it comes down to this, you know, and let's just
25:30
say Celtics make it to the finals.
25:31
They have 0 answer for Wemby or Chet.
25:34
They don't have any, They don't have anything for those guys.
25:37
And that ultimately in A7 game series is your difference
25:40
between if the New York, if the Knicks can win the finals or
25:44
not. I don't think they can win the
25:46
Finals if those two teams are there.
25:48
Now if there's a random team that beat them or nothing
25:51
happened or there's injuries, absolutely the Knicks could be a
25:53
favorite. But with those two teams
25:55
standing in the way, the front court depth of both of those
25:58
teams is just going to be way too much in A7 game series for
26:02
the Knicks. Now can the Knicks go to the
26:03
Finals? 100%?
26:05
Would I want to be in the Garden for game three of the NBA
26:07
Finals? Oh hell yeah.
26:08
Give me the Garden that anytime you want to talk about maybe the
26:13
greatest basketball game you could be a part of.
26:15
Game three tied at 1:00. Oh my God, in the garden.
26:19
Oh my gosh, that would go crazy. Insane.
26:23
And, and here's another thing. And I, I, I go back and forth
26:25
and I argue my points. I've been on in a couple of
26:28
Nick's shows. They've asked me to come on and,
26:30
and, and I've gone back and forth with Quran, shout out to
26:32
Quran. So I, I understand the Nick fans
26:36
are dedicated fans, but you have to be honest with yourselves.
26:40
And to me, the secret of the Nick's success going into the
26:43
playoffs is you got to use Karl Anthony Towns more offensively.
26:48
If he disappears in these series, the Knicks don't have a
26:51
chance. They don't have a chance.
26:53
They could beat Detroit. Detroit, Cunningham, he's not
26:57
healthy. We don't know if he's going to
26:59
be 100% in the playoffs. So I'm not worried about
27:02
Detroit. The Celtics are the team that I
27:03
worry about, the Cavaliers. I'm not really worried about
27:07
James Harden. I he doesn't play well in the
27:09
playoffs. The guys are a hit or miss in
27:11
the playoffs. And then even the teams below,
27:13
below the Cavaliers, I just, I don't trust any of those teams.
27:17
I, I look at the Celtics, they are dangerous.
27:19
I think Jalen Brown is their best player I've I've watched
27:23
Taylor Brown in his development. You're not smart.
27:26
Well, that's that's your opinion.
27:28
But guess what? They're both.
27:29
Great, let's not. They're both, yeah.
27:32
Either one could be the best player on anything.
27:34
I'm not. Smart, Quinton.
27:36
You're going to tell me, Jason? About, about about this this
27:39
particular position that you take, not necessarily Overwatch.
27:43
I'm going to, I'm going to attack your position.
27:45
Let's go and tell. You why you're wrong.
27:48
Jaylen Brown is a two way player.
27:50
He is by far their best defensive player on that.
27:52
Road. By far, he could play multiple
27:55
positions. Jason Tatum's a good defender.
27:57
He's not an elite defender. Jaylen Brown, he has turned into
28:00
an elite defender and he can score.
28:03
He's averaging what, 27 points? I mean, the guy is the he's one
28:06
of the best two way players in the NBA.
28:08
So when I look and I love Jason Tatum, he's a Duke Blue Devil.
28:11
So he's in my heart. I can't stand the Celtics, but I
28:14
love Jason Tatum to go out there and tell me that I don't know
28:17
what I'm talking about. Well, look at the development.
28:20
Look at the development. And here's another thing about
28:22
Jalen Brown that people don't understand.
28:24
This guy could have signed with Nike.
28:26
He could have signed with Nike instead, this man said.
28:28
You know what I'm going to. Create my own.
28:30
Shoe, I'm going to create my own style.
28:33
I'm going to create my own fashion.
28:35
That's something that's that I look at Jaylen and Jaylen Brown
28:38
is by far the smartest player on that roster.
28:41
He is such a very smart basketball player.
28:44
So I look at both guys and if you were to ask me right now,
28:48
who am I building my team around now, especially with the
28:51
Achilles tear, it's that man right there, Jaylen Brown, who
28:54
always is healthy, always. Two points right here if if the
28:58
guy that I'm guarding is averaging 30 points, would you
29:01
say I'll go good defender yes. OK, so This is why I say that
29:05
you're not here smart. There's no way in the in the.
29:08
World. That you can sit here and say
29:10
that someone who is putting up 30 points a game is been the
29:15
defender is an elite defender you're.
29:18
Wrong. You're wrong, and I'm going to
29:20
tell you why. OG Nanobi.
29:23
OG and Nanobi defended Shay Alexander.
29:25
Did he score 30 points in that game?
29:27
Did he? You was just talking about
29:29
Jaylen Brown, you said. You just said it.
29:32
You just. Said it.
29:33
Did you not say that? Did you not say that?
29:35
You said if you're defending him and he scores 30 points, is that
29:39
does that make you an elite defender?
29:40
OG and Nanobi is an elite defender and he played Shay
29:43
Alexander. He defended him 90% of the time
29:46
and he still scored 30. So you're going to tell me that
29:49
that's your argument, that's what you're throwing, That's
29:51
what you're trying to make stick.
29:53
Come on. Dude, come on, stop.
29:55
Come on. Get his job done.
29:56
Get out of here. That's what is it.
29:58
Someone is going 30 on you. Get out of here.
30:01
That means you're not getting the job.
30:02
Consistently Who scored 30 consistently on it?
30:05
You can't outweigh that. Based on who?
30:07
Is scoring 30 points consistently against Jaylen
30:10
Brown. Give me one, Give me one, Give
30:13
me one. Yeah, give it, Give me.
30:15
You watch the Celtics all the time.
30:16
Tell me, Tell me everybody. Don't.
30:21
Don't give me these everybody either.
30:23
You asked for the answer and I gave you that.
30:26
Give me another. That's all that, man.
30:28
Give me another one. I gave you two.
30:30
I'm not going to keep going down the whole list.
30:32
Wait a second, wait a second. I love Jaylen Brown.
30:37
No, you think he's a good defender.
30:39
However, when someone scores 30 points on you, that doesn't mean
30:43
that you're a great defender. That doesn't mean that you
30:45
should be held at an elite level in defense when the star player
30:49
is scoring 30 points because you're going to knock Jayden and
30:52
Jason Tatum for not guarding the greatest player, but his player
30:55
ain't getting 30 points neither. So that's that.
30:58
So two players who are probably two of the most elite offensive
31:01
players you. Asked for one and I gave you 2.
31:04
You're wrong. That is a terrible take.
31:07
That's a terrible argument you. Luke Luke and then scores that
31:10
will repay them in the bank. Lucas Lucas scores special.
31:13
Go ahead, go ahead. That from somebody like broke
31:15
this down for years. Neither if you were wrong, by
31:18
the way, like I hate to pray. I know we're sitting here going
31:21
you actually, both of you are absolutely right because like
31:24
there's there's something in the chat.
31:26
Kevin Durant can get 30 on anybody any night.
31:28
Yep, he sure can Steph can get 30 any night.
31:30
It doesn't matter who's guarding him right, right.
31:32
But there are times in the playoffs where you need Jalen to
31:36
score 30 and then he needs to guard SGA and SGA just needs to
31:39
score 22 and Jalen can help with those 3 to 4 possessions of
31:42
doing that. So there's it's it's it's a it's
31:45
a it's a slippery slope of like this argument of they're both
31:49
super valuable, both of those guys.
31:51
Now if I have to pick OGOG or Jaylen Brown, I'm taking Jaylen
31:54
Brown not even thinking. So that's when you start getting
31:57
into comparables right between now we start breaking down
32:00
defensive positions. So we're talking about OG
32:03
bridges. Like, we can go on and on about
32:05
guys who can, you know, you could talk about Herb Jones at
32:08
that point if we're talking about, you know, defenders.
32:10
But neither of you are wrong. I love this argument, but you
32:14
literally neither of you are wrong in this argument at all.
32:17
My thing is that it just trying to take a shot at Jason because
32:20
he, you know, he's just elite two way defender and it's like,
32:25
OK, well the guy that I'm supposed to be stopping is
32:27
consistently scored 30. Or are you sorry?
32:30
I can defend, but I'm just not the elite defender that you're
32:33
trying to prop up the year to beat.
32:35
And that's what I'm saying. And then you don't consider
32:36
Jason Tatum defense in the offensive rebounds.
32:39
You don't consider that he's almost averaging a triple double
32:42
and you go tell me that Jaylen Brown is the best player on the
32:44
team. He is.
32:45
Just makes no sense. He is the best player on the.
32:48
Team, He's a great asset and I'm glad they don't let people like
32:51
you influence the. People like me, people like you
32:55
who's absolutely gullible and blind.
32:58
OK, you're going to tell me right now when you watch the
33:01
Celtics religiously, and I watch a lot of Celtics games and I
33:05
love Jayson Tatum, I couldn't stand Jaylen Brown.
33:08
Anybody that listens to this show, when he was drafted, I was
33:10
watching the draft. When they draft, I said who?
33:14
Jaylen Brown? That's the way.
33:16
That's the place they're going in the draft.
33:18
And I laughed at, I said this guy's not going to be anything.
33:20
His development has been absolutely so impressive, and it
33:25
compared to Jason Tatum, who I already knew was going to be
33:28
special. I watched him play for Duke.
33:30
He's long, he's talented, athletically gifted.
33:33
Jaylen Brown is on a whole nother level, my friend.
33:37
A whole nother level. He that's the thing that nobody
33:41
talks about is Joe Missoula putting them in the right
33:44
position. I know you don't like them.
33:47
I ain't Sam over there. They're coaching their tails off
33:50
over there, putting these guys in excellent positions and and
33:53
really doing a great job in regards to details.
33:56
Don't worry, Quit me still likes it more than John Shire.
33:58
I do. I like yeah, yeah, you
33:59
definitely like it more than that.
34:01
I. Definitely.
34:04
Do. Yes, Errol, I wanted to get your
34:07
take on the Will Wade situation. This is as time keeps going on.
34:14
I just I had to ask you today. I was so excited that I was
34:17
coming on to talk to you about this today because like it
34:19
happened all today, like literally in real time in the
34:22
last six hours. Do you what have you know for
34:25
what you know about it? I I got to know what you think
34:28
about. So so tell me exactly I heard
34:30
some things on I don't watch a lot of.
34:32
This is huge. This is unprecedented.
34:34
So what is he saying Will? So Will Wade.
34:37
So OK, the administrators that were at McNeese State, that's
34:41
when Will Wade. That's in Lake Charles, LA, on
34:45
the border of Texas in Louisiana.
34:47
So remember, he took them into the Sweet 16, I think, or I'm
34:50
sorry, into the NCAA tournament. Twice.
34:52
Two years in a row. Yeah, yeah, three.
34:54
Sorry. Yeah, The administrators for
34:58
McNeese are now in charge at LSU.
35:01
So this job is not open, by the way, was not open.
35:06
The old coach I forgot I was forget his name.
35:08
He's a nice guy. I I forget his name, nice guy.
35:10
Whatever. He was not winning, right?
35:12
And they just were like wholesale changing.
35:14
Will Wade said a week ago, a week ago, I'm not going anywhere
35:18
instead, you know, and that's you normal talk, right?
35:21
But the guys got hired at from, at from Mckneeson to LSU, right?
35:26
Will Wade got a 1.7 or $1.6 million a year raise.
35:30
He's up to 4 million now. And LSU gave him $10 million for
35:35
NIL slash staff slash, whatever he wants to use it for.
35:40
I think it's double what NC State was going to give her.
35:42
Maybe it was, you know, 40%. More.
35:46
And then they fired Matt, I think his name was Matt Fired
35:49
him. Yeah.
35:52
They fired him on the spot. And they didn't interview
35:55
anybody. There was nobody.
35:57
This was not a job that you could even interview for.
36:00
And you know, there's rules in the NCAA where you have to, you
36:03
have to. So there's there might be
36:05
lawsuits coming out on top of this for what is going on
36:08
because they just stole him from NC State.
36:11
And then his agent, Errol, get this, his agent sent sent the
36:15
president an e-mail saying Will Wade's going to LSU, by the way,
36:21
no face to face, no talk, no counter, nothing.
36:25
It was gone. It is unprecedented.
36:29
It really isn't. You want me to tell you why?
36:31
It is because I can tell you right now Pitino wouldn't do
36:34
this, John Shire wouldn't do that.
36:37
I'm not. I'm just saying.
36:38
I'm just saying like you can't do that.
36:40
I'm not surprised that this is happening in LSU because
36:44
something happened in football this year with LSU Tigers.
36:48
As we all know, Lane Kiffin just magically got a job over there
36:53
at LSU, walked away from a championship team, A-Team that
36:57
probably wins a national championship if he doesn't
37:00
leave. That's the problem right now.
37:02
LSU has their hand up everybody's skirt.
37:05
That's what they're doing. They're, they're just fiddling
37:08
whatever you want to fiddle under the skirt and, and they're
37:10
making sure that she's having a little bit of fun.
37:14
And, and to me right now, when you hear a story like that, it's
37:17
just like Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin was making money.
37:20
He was making money as the team was moving forward in the
37:24
tournament. And he's laughing.
37:26
He's laughing to the bank. I don't care.
37:28
They're not winning the national championship.
37:29
There's no way they're going to beat Indiana.
37:31
There's no way they're going to go through this team and that
37:33
team and they as far as they went, he was making money.
37:35
And now you're hearing, I'm, I'm just hearing this story and Wade
37:39
gets this job. He gets $10 million of NIL
37:42
deals, which is enormous. You can you can do so much with
37:45
that, so much with that. As a matter of fact, recruiting
37:48
players should be no problem next year for LSU because they
37:52
could just throw that money into it.
37:53
So. They go use it up.
37:55
Oh, there definitely. Are Will's going to spend that?
37:57
I can guarantee you every dot. And also do a better job than
38:01
Mark Pope did at Kentucky with 22 million.
38:02
That's true too. I I forgot about that one too.
38:05
But it seems like LSU is in between all these stories,
38:09
stealing coaches and making sure that these coaches, and by the
38:12
way, they promised Lane Kiffin more money to go to LSU for NIL
38:17
deals. So. 200, yeah.
38:19
And Lane Kiffin's one of the highest paid coaches in in
38:23
college, college football now. Because.
38:26
Because a lot of money in Baton Rouge, apparently, we're not.
38:29
We're in. On it.
38:30
I'm only an hour from Baton Rouge and I'm not in on this
38:32
money. I, I wish I was in on it you.
38:35
Got to go on the road, you got to go on.
38:37
The road Errol's just waiting for them to try to build up to
38:39
the next level where they give any more lucrative deal with
38:41
John Shire. Please, you know what I do when,
38:45
when and I'll say this with John Shire and I and A lot of people,
38:48
they attacked me. I wrote a story about John
38:50
Shire, comparing him to JJ Redick and and and I put a
38:53
really and listen, Dan, I get I definitely.
38:55
Get to see AJ such a bad coach. I know, I know.
38:58
And I hate JJ too though, that's the crazy thing.
39:00
I hate, I hate JJ too, but that's a whole nother story.
39:03
And it's not because I The problem here is when I look at
39:07
these two coaches is Shire got his job because he kisses Coach
39:11
K's ass. That's that's why he was there
39:14
kissing his ass for the last couple of years.
39:16
I'll sit the bench. I'll learn unto you and I'm
39:19
going to get this job. JJ Redick kissed Lebron's ass.
39:22
The LJA, the LeBron James Association, and what did they
39:25
do? They work on a podcast.
39:27
His guy has no coaching experience at all, ladies and
39:31
gentlemen, none. He's never even coached Perry
39:34
basketball. He played the game.
39:36
The LeBron James associate. Associate is crazy.
39:40
You. Got.
39:44
To copyright that. I, I just, I, I sit here today
39:49
and I, I watch the way the NBA works now it, it's become, it's
39:54
a players league. So if let's say Wenby Yami, you
39:56
know, I, I, we know where Giannis is going next year.
39:59
It's not even, it's not even debatable.
40:01
Where's he going? He's going to the Knicks next
40:03
year. There's no.
40:04
Doubt in my mind. There's no doubt in my mind.
40:06
What are you talking about? They don't have enough.
40:09
Good enough? The the Knicks, unless they pull
40:12
the LSU. Yeah, you better find some NIL
40:15
money to. Trust me, the Knicks, if Giannis
40:19
wants to go to the Knicks, they'll make it work.
40:21
They'll make it work. Y'all are going to hate me when
40:23
I tell you that he's going to OKC next year.
40:25
Y'all are going to be mad at me right?
40:27
I'd be very interested to see if he goes OK.
40:29
I'll think it'll work, but I think it'll be great.
40:31
Oh, they have so many picks it doesn't matter.
40:33
No, I'm saying yeah, I don't think it'll work, but I think
40:35
it'll be great. For the I.
40:37
Mean they trade Jay well you had the other Jay well yeah, and you
40:42
got well no you probably don't need to put Chet in there I mean
40:44
Jay wells enough to. Give me draft picks.
40:46
So yeah, then you just load them with draft picks, like the most
40:48
draft picks I. Wanted to tell you guys that JJ
40:51
Redick I have no disrespect for JJ Redick, I really don't.
40:55
I I thought he was a good six man when he played in the NBA.
40:59
Pretty good 3 point shooter. Overrated when he was drafted.
41:02
Never liked him in Duke. He shot too many threes.
41:05
Never. It just wasn't a guy that I say,
41:07
oh, that's the guy I want to build my national championship
41:09
team around. OK, that's the fact.
41:11
Now JJ Reddick, he has no clue. No clue when he's on his
41:17
podcast. I listen to that podcast a lot
41:20
and I listen to Steve. I like Steve Nash.
41:22
I think Steve Nash would be the what the Nets did to him was
41:25
pathetic. I didn't like the way the.
41:27
Next, they're not very smart. OK, I I don't it was because of
41:31
a lot of different players on that roster too, but I, I look.
41:34
At Nix. Yeah, it was it was absolutely,
41:36
I'm going to tell you this, Steve Nash might be the next
41:39
coach of the Phoenix Suns. I and I believe that might
41:41
happen. So if, if, if Phoenix decides to
41:44
part ways with with whoever they decide to part way, I could see
41:47
Steve Nash taking that job. But because he has that that
41:50
background behind, you know, the Suns organization.
41:53
Yeah. So, but my, my argument here is
41:56
I watched JJ Reddick and I I remember him as a player.
41:59
I met JJ Reddick three years into his NBA career.
42:03
Very, very nice guy. He really is.
42:05
He's a sweetheart as an NBA coach for the LA Lakers, one of
42:09
the greatest historical teams in professional sports.
42:13
You get the job because the LJA vouch for you and put you out
42:18
there and say, you know what? I don't want this guy.
42:20
I don't want that guy. Danny Hurley.
42:22
Danny Hurley didn't take that job.
42:23
The story came out because of Tom Izzo.
42:26
That came out because Tom said stay in college, don't go to
42:29
that organization. He's going to kill you and
42:31
you're going to probably quit before you know it.
42:33
So and and JJ just sits there with his hands behind, you know,
42:36
in his lap. He sits there and he talks to
42:39
LeBron and him and Luca does not like him.
42:42
You could tell Luca doesn't like him.
42:44
And I'm telling you right now, when the LJA LeBron, Ron James
42:46
goes back to Cleveland next year, JJ Redick is going to get
42:50
fired because there's no way Luka Doncic is going to want
42:53
that guy on the bench. And then JJ comes out and says,
42:56
oh, I we have this love. Me and me and Luke are like, we
42:59
love each other. We're brothers.
43:01
We know how we. What you see on the bench is not
43:04
what you get. Yeah.
43:05
What it. And you believe in the Easter
43:06
Bunny, too. You believe in the tooth fairy.
43:08
Is that what you tell your kids? How about did Santa send you a
43:11
bunch of coal today or last yesterday?
43:13
Or how about it during Christmas?
43:15
The fact here is JJ Redick should have never got that job.
43:19
Now, I'm not saying he's not good.
43:20
He's better than Shire. I take him over Shire any day.
43:23
That guy's a deer in. Headlights.
43:26
He's a deer in. Headlights he can't get, he
43:28
can't catch a break. So you don't think JJ is doing a
43:30
good job? No, I don't because you dude,
43:33
when you, when you look at the. And I'm he got LeBron and Luca.
43:37
So I mean, I'm what coach can step in and really do anything
43:40
with them too. I will say this, LeBron and
43:43
Luca, they don't like each other.
43:45
You could tell they don't like each other.
43:48
Here's. Here's the thing.
43:50
When Luca had his, when he got resigned in the offseason, every
43:55
single one of those players showed up to that that that
43:58
media day. They all got shoes.
44:00
They all were happy. Where was LeBron?
44:03
Oh, I'm sorry. He's 40 and he's like bigger
44:06
than life. Like the dude bigger than.
44:08
The leg like bigger than. Life that's showing up to them
44:12
that go. Why not?
44:13
He's a. Kind he's.
44:14
The leader of the team, is he not?
44:17
He's got him a text, right? Oh, I'm sorry.
44:20
Oh, Oh my God. LeBron James sent me a text.
44:23
What does LeBron need a pair of shoes for?
44:25
Like, he doesn't. He owns Nike.
44:26
What does it matter, you know? What I mean, he owns everything.
44:29
He owns the NBA too. If he wants to buy the Knicks, a
44:31
couple of. Years.
44:32
So why you want him to be showing up the signing day?
44:35
Signing day You're, you're are you a team player?
44:38
Are you? Did you want Luca Dodges to come
44:40
to the television? Sports.
44:42
It's not team though, it's a business.
44:44
I know you're a giant. I think everybody he knows,
44:46
LeBron has a good track record of that.
44:48
So I think we're OK. Can I ask, so can, can I change
44:51
gears here a little bit? I have a question for you, man.
44:54
As a Tar Heel, what, what are you thinking about this Hubert
44:58
Davis stuff? What, who do you think the next
45:00
coach is going to be like? Who would you want to see as a
45:03
alum of one of the greatest universities in America taking
45:08
over arguably the greatest program in NCAA history?
45:12
Me. Me, Errol, Errol Marsh for sure.
45:15
I would definitely want to see him step up and and get off the
45:19
pod and actually get on the bench because these guys.
45:22
Screaming all the time, man. I'm.
45:24
Like get your ass on the butt damn court.
45:27
I like the Yeah, I didn't like the Hubert higher from the
45:32
beginning. I think that he wasn't the the
45:37
ideal pick. I thought we was in a phase of
45:39
like trying to figure it out. I don't think we knew exactly
45:41
who where we wanted to go with in that direction.
45:44
I did like the thought of Jerry Seckhaus, but obviously when he
45:49
went to Villanova and his results there kind of deterred
45:53
everybody from, you know, picking him as far as as far as
45:59
coaches. Now it's tough because right now
46:04
we're in a place where we're not being, we're not able to get the
46:07
talent that we supposed to be getting out there in the market.
46:11
And I don't, I never, I don't really understand why we have
46:15
not only a Jordan brand, but we have second Nike brand and then
46:19
we have Carolina. Like when you go on campus and
46:22
you see the, you know, the banners and the the aura that
46:25
Carolina brings, It's just like how we missing out on all these
46:29
top recruits. So the names that I would say
46:35
that, you know, Stephen A has been throwing Kenny Smith out.
46:38
I'm not sold on that. I don't believe that Kenny Smith
46:41
can actually coach. I think that those type of Kenny
46:45
Smith would be somebody far as like a a player personnel coach
46:48
or, you know, a consultant role or whatever, But I don't know.
46:54
I don't it's it's interesting to see who could possibly be an
46:59
option for for Carolina because the team itself is like kind of
47:05
a little bit of talent little bit there.
47:07
I think Caleb's gone. So it's like who's the next
47:10
yeah, so who's the next big deal there that we can, you know,
47:15
sell in regards to get another recruits there and then we
47:20
didn't finish well in the tournament up by 20 then get
47:23
knocked out. You can't have that happen.
47:26
So I don't know who who from your who you think would be a
47:30
good fit. I don't really have a name that
47:33
I would like that makes sense. It's more so like it's going to
47:37
take one to two years to figure out whether this is the right
47:39
coach or not. Well, that's not that's not the
47:42
Carolina way. This thing's got to turn around
47:44
next year you got. To get to this is.
47:46
Where you work, it's like, so names that I've heard that enjoy
47:51
that that they would like to talk to, right?
47:54
They are no longer going the Carolina way in essence of that
47:57
Carolina coaching tree. They are deciding to go 180 and
48:01
go away from that. Right?
48:03
Yeah. And you know, Brad Stevens was
48:05
the first name that they called. I don't think they're going to
48:08
be able to get Brad Stevens out of, I mean, out of Boston.
48:10
I think he's so entrenched for the Celtics, like it's hard to
48:14
see. How he was.
48:16
Entrenched for the bucks. I think you could probably pull
48:19
him out of there or if he was in like, I don't know, just pick a
48:22
Minnesota, you know, then he would.
48:24
Or Sacramento, then yeah, he would be like, OK, well that's a
48:27
good step. But he's with the number one
48:29
organization ever, or #2 whatever you.
48:31
Want It's too good in Boston right now.
48:32
Yeah, it's too good. It's too good.
48:33
They're winning championships. I just don't see that as a
48:35
situation now. Jerry Stackhouse was a name that
48:38
was mentioned. He's an assistant for the
48:39
Warriors right now. And Stackhouse, it's not that he
48:43
was great, but he could argue that he did.
48:45
He did as much as he could with the resources he was giving in
48:50
the talent pool he could pull from in a very competitive
48:53
conference, right? He could say that all those
48:55
things and he says, well, give me the Carolina deal with the
48:59
NIL and the bump and the the staff and all those things.
49:02
And you know, a campus that cares.
49:05
I'm not saying not saying Vandy doesn't care, but it's not
49:08
Carolina. I think all all of us are
49:10
listening. Carol be 1,000,000% Vandy
49:13
Carolina basketball are not the same thing, right.
49:16
So though, so that's a name that was around it.
49:20
Now Dusty Mays, another name that they were throwing around
49:23
over in Michigan. I don't think after one year
49:25
because Michigan and Carolina right now are very similar jobs.
49:29
So that could be, you know, something There was I I know
49:32
some I don't. I didn't really believe this.
49:34
When they said Will Wade, I was like, there's no way.
49:35
Will that would be so? Funny, there's no way that
49:37
Carolina would ever hire Will Wade.
49:39
Ever. Ever, ever, right.
49:42
So it's, it's interesting to see.
49:44
I think ultimately they're going to end up with someone who
49:48
honestly could be like a Pitino, not Rick.
49:50
Bobby could be somebody like that that could come in and
49:53
somebody that they you just don't think is a Carolina guy
49:56
and. You don't think they would go
49:58
younger? Like more younger?
50:01
It's tough to go. More like yeah, I I get it when
50:04
I. Just can't just throw a first
50:06
year coach or a guy whose career is.
50:09
More like 4 or five years somewhere established, I don't
50:12
know who's. Name to it.
50:13
What name is that? Kevin at BYU.
50:17
Maybe he, you know, Kevin at BYU.
50:19
Kevin Young BYU would be great, but he's only coached college
50:22
for one year. He was an NBA assistant forever.
50:25
He was a, you know, lead assistant in the NBA, head coach
50:28
in the G League. Like Kevin be a great option,
50:31
but he's only coached one year. I don't know if you can have
50:34
that type of guy over at Carolina.
50:36
No offense to Kevin, I think he's great, but like Dusty Mays
50:40
took college teams over and over and over and over and over and
50:43
over 2 places, you know what I'm saying?
50:45
So it's. Got a lot of NIL money.
50:47
He's not going to want to leave there.
50:49
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
50:50
I definitely we got NIL money. We just don't use it.
50:55
That's a problem. Boosters in the contract that we
50:58
have there is out of control. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
51:00
Quick, quick, quick. And all you really need is just
51:02
to hire somebody from LSU's program and then you might get
51:05
something going. We need to go down there and
51:06
consult with them and figure out what what they did to get that
51:08
boosters to be giving out 91 and $200 million.
51:11
Worth you can have John Shire if you want them.
51:14
You don't want them, you can take.
51:18
What? So I do want to say Billy
51:20
Donovan has been a name. I would not be surprised if
51:22
Billy goes there because being in Chicago, Chicago doesn't
51:26
spend money. They don't go into the luxury
51:27
tax. They never will.
51:30
You know, Chicago is one of those teams.
51:31
If you guys remember, the Bulls are like, they're a Reinsdorf.
51:35
That is his business, right? Like think about Dolan and
51:38
Cablevision or whoever owns, you know, I don't know what the
51:40
actual entity that owns the Knicks.
51:42
Like that's not Dolan's number one thing.
51:44
The Knicks, you know what I mean?
51:45
He's got 10 other things that he does.
51:48
Reinsdorf, the White Sox and the Bulls and whatever other sports
51:51
entity he owns, that's his business and he makes money off
51:55
of that business. So if you're Billy Donovan,
51:58
like, yeah, you'll always have an OK team, but you guys are
52:00
going to be a 7-8 seed at best probably moving forward.
52:04
You're you're stuck in mediocrity.
52:05
Yeah, well, go to. Go to Carolina and just get to
52:08
start fresh and just take all my NBA experience and try to get
52:12
those guys. So like, you know, I, I, I, I
52:15
wouldn't be surprised if Billy, I don't see it, but it could
52:18
happen. What about Todd Golden Every.
52:22
Day in Florida, I would rather take Tommy Lloyd over Todd
52:25
Golden. Tommy Lloyd, let's tell you
52:27
that. I would also take Nate Oates.
52:28
The problem with Nate Oates, though, is that his buyout is
52:31
huge. There's, it's a $14 million
52:33
buyout, I believe, until I want to say April 15th.
52:38
It could be April first, could be April 15th.
52:40
I think it's April 15th. There's a $14 million buyout.
52:43
It moves to 10 million after that.
52:45
So there's a big gap right there, unless MJ wants to write
52:47
the check. Well, apparently he flew in
52:49
today. Did he OK, because he might have
52:51
to write that check if he wants to do that.
52:54
I would rather if I'm going to go anybody and I have to I'm
52:57
going to go Tommy Lloyd. I just think he's a he's a he
53:00
did a great job at Arizona. They have an All Star team.
53:02
By the way, KOA Pete in this draft.
53:03
I don't know if anybody's following, but KOA Pete is
53:06
probably a lottery pick. I love KOA, but like, I think
53:10
Tommy just from Gonzaga to Arizona, North Carolina would be
53:15
a normal transition to the next big thing.
53:18
So it's going to be interesting to see.
53:20
Obviously I, I don't know, I there's this is the job.
53:23
Like let's just be real sure. This is the job.
53:25
It's there's literally Duke, Kansas, Carolina, UCLA.
53:30
After that you can start ruffling all the feathers you
53:33
want, but those are the, those are the four.
53:35
Let's just be real. Those are the four that
53:37
everybody will go to, no matter who you are or where you're at.
53:41
So we got it. Yeah, I think, I think that'll
53:43
be a good pick. I think we got a $14 million
53:45
too. I mean, Rucker George just won,
53:47
what, a billion dollar lawsuit? Then it just here another 730
53:51
for the NASCAR situation. So he got 14 million to spare.
53:55
Yeah. Everybody's got four.
53:57
I got it. Yeah, just Purdue Texas game
53:59
Arrow. Were you checking it out?
54:01
Yeah. I'm getting sick, man.
54:03
I'm getting sick. I have Purdue going to the
54:04
national championship and winning.
54:08
Iowa just beat Nebraska, by the way, the Battle of the Corn.
54:14
Right up. You know what I missed a job of
54:16
Chamberlains ass. You know he missed.
54:22
He got it. Purdue just saved it.
54:24
Yeah, he did it 7977. He just saved it.
54:27
Nice tipping. And that's the game, Purdue.
54:29
You're safe, Errol. Come on now, safe save my
54:32
brackets is like. By the way, Earl, did you tell
54:35
Dave who's winning the bracket? You're winning by 4 points.
54:39
What do you? Think Dan, Can you tell him how
54:41
many it takes to win a game? How many points it takes to win?
54:44
After after the. Sweet you up 4 after the.
54:47
Sweet 16, I'll be winning my friends, so don't worry about
54:50
that. You don't worry.
54:52
About it. And yes, Nate Oates is a Buffalo
54:54
legend. I I met Nate when he was the
54:56
coach of Buffalo. Dan, we got to get you on again.
55:00
Let's get you on more sooner. Let's do it in a couple of weeks
55:04
when the NBA playoffs start. I definitely.
55:06
Want to hear? Your take and you're fantastic.
55:09
You do such a great job with Scout Central so and you're one
55:12
of the best, so I know you know what you're talking about.
55:15
Unfortunately, Q doesn't really know much of anything, so.
55:19
As long as as long as Q is here, I'm here.
55:23
My guy right there. It's my guy.
55:25
Oh. Man, thank you, Dan.
55:28
Absolutely. I appreciate you guys.
55:29
For coming over, man, it was a pleasure.
55:31
Dan Purcell, fantastic as always, gives us great takes.
55:36
He knows his basketball and I love, yeah, I love going back
55:40
and forth with Q, but Q's losing his mind.
55:43
I think there's something going on in that, that head of his,
55:46
maybe he's going senile. I don't know.
55:49
What happened? Alzheimer's maybe?
55:50
That we'll give you that. We'll give you that information.
55:55
I don't know, maybe it's you shaking your head over and over
55:57
and over again. Anyways, maybe I'm watering your
55:59
ears or something. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
56:01
we call this Let's parlay. Parlay.
56:12
It's time for Let's parlay. All right, if everybody has not
56:18
listened to this, this segment, it's pretty simple.
56:21
Wes is one of our best parlay guys, one of our best hot
56:25
handicapped guys. He's one of the best in the
56:26
industry, especially with the Canadian Football League.
56:30
He's always over 60% and he he really always hits on most of
56:34
his bets. So ladies and gentlemen, he's
56:36
going to give you his three top bets and he's going to give you
56:39
one for one extra one for his parlay.
56:41
Wes, you ready? Yeah, Can I give you one for
56:45
what just started is it can I do that money line in Houston all
56:50
year, the one that played for basketball team to watch?
56:53
I live in Big 12 countries. I'm an Illinois money line and a
56:59
half points. The Illinois is a bit much in
57:04
the last three or four games where they face where they play
57:09
it's they they stop they they smashed Iowa State, Arizona.
57:17
I mean they play in a tough conference, but you still can
57:19
come up small when they need to score points and they will need
57:23
to score points going on the the odds makers might be looking
57:27
back at the big 10 tournament, but this game just started it's
57:30
it's two to nothing Illinois, but I think Illinois is going to
57:33
win this game out right now. I'm glad that we got on when we
57:35
did, so I can call that one out. They're.
57:37
Going to recreate a new graphic for the skull again.
57:42
No, no, in fact, we're going to have to retire them.
57:45
And you know what? It's terrible because in our
57:47
group chat I do skull and with them together, but no I'm not.
57:54
Give us your number two, my friend. #2 We're going to go
57:57
tomorrow and I'm going to do something a Buckeye fan should
58:01
never do, but I'm going to lay 9 1/2 points on the team up north.
58:04
I believe that the Wolverines are going to cover that.
58:06
Alabama has been banged up for weeks, a month.
58:09
They have some off the court drama taking place.
58:11
They can score a lot of points, but they can sometimes come up
58:14
small defensively. And I think that the team up
58:18
north, the team from Ann Arbor, the Wolverines, as Urban Meyer
58:21
would say, they they're just far superior off the boards in terms
58:27
of rebounding and defense than this SEC team they're going to
58:30
play against. Right now we're seeing a clinic
58:32
that the Big 10 is putting on in in this tournament.
58:35
All right, give us your #3. I'm going to take it.
58:39
I'm going to take another favorite and I'm going to lay
58:41
the 1 1/2. And I know that most of the
58:43
betting public doesn't agree. Right now, 53% of the action is
58:47
is on Michigan State. People are taking the Spartans,
58:51
and I'm now finding value laying 1 1/2 on UConn.
58:55
It's a coaching matchup. And you probably could flip a
58:58
coin. You know the guy of today, the
58:59
guy of yesterday. But you know, Yukon is still
59:02
Yukon. That Big East is is really, to
59:06
me, it's the most fun conference to watch.
59:08
But I like Yukon to show up in this tournament.
59:10
In the past couple years, that coach has had them in the right
59:14
position more often than whatever nostalgia we feel for
59:18
for Izzo and laying a point and a half.
59:20
If I would have told you two years ago, a year ago you'd have
59:23
an opportunity to lay only 1 1/2 and take Yukon in a Sweet 16
59:27
game, you'd probably do it. Yukon is going to win by a point
59:31
to half. All right, give us your final
59:33
pick of the night. This is the final.
59:37
I'm taking a dog and I'm right there with the public.
59:41
And the scary part is 63% is doing the same thing that I'm
59:45
doing. So I'm really square here.
59:48
But I'm, I'm going to take Saint John's and I'm going to take the
59:51
6 1/2 points. Duke has been off to some slow
59:54
starts. If you put the coaches up
59:56
against one another, I think that we have the, we have the
59:59
better coach on the side of Saint John's.
1:00:01
I don't care where Shire is going.
1:00:04
I, I care what we've seen out of out of Saint John's.
1:00:07
And that was they, they almost lost that game to Kansas.
1:00:12
Forget Homer. I am not a Jayhawk fan.
1:00:14
My family is and I live here but.
1:00:17
They almost lost that game to Kansas because they they just
1:00:20
thought they had it under control.
1:00:21
But what the way that they were able to shut down a team that
1:00:25
can beat you a lot of different ways in that Jayhawk team.
1:00:28
They we could talk for an hour about how broken The Jayhawks
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are and how Bill Self needs to go.
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But what what St. John's did to them and the way
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that they shut them down is far superior than any type of any
1:00:42
type of approach Duke is going to show up with.
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And Duke has gotten off to some slow starts.
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You got a week off to get ready for a matchup.
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Which coach do you want? St.
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John's is going to cover the points.
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I don't know that they win, but 6 1/2 is too many.
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I want to say something, I want to apologize.
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I have not reached out to you over the last couple of weeks.
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I've been very sick. So we'll talk.
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I'll definitely reach out to you over the weekend.
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You know, I love you, man. And it's just been really,
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really hard what I've been dealing with.
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So the guys know what I've been doing.
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And, and dealing with I, I'm here, man.
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I mean, I I don't want you to be going through any hard times.
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Man, I can't even tell you, I have to.
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I have to speak to. You off air?
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Yeah, pick up the phone when you need to.
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I'm up at 4:00 AM, which is equal to 5:00 AM your time.
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I know, I know, man. I love you and thank you for
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joining us. Yeah, good talking to you guys.
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Worldwide OS. He's always sensational.
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He gives you a lot of lot to think about when it comes to his
1:01:39
picks, and he does that also on Money Line Mania.
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And by the way, just so everybody knows, Money Line
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Mania, what they're doing right now is ridiculous.
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Going into the month of April, we have one more week of Money
1:01:52
line Mania. They are over 84 percent, 84% of
1:01:57
their picks. So think about that anybody that
1:02:01
listens to money line mania on one O 3.9.
1:02:03
It almost guarantees you winning money, almost guarantees you
1:02:07
winning money. So you should be listening to it
1:02:10
every single week on one O 3.9. You can go on iHeartRadio.
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Me and speedy. We we we really put out for the
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New York fans and give you the best possible show on the FM
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dial. So thank you to the one we
1:02:22
called worldwide W Thank you to all the fans on Spotify and
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apple video and audio. Thank you to all the TikTok
1:02:28
fans, the Instagram fans, the X fans, the YouTube fans for
1:02:32
joining us and and and enjoying our content throughout the
1:02:35
country. Really appreciate it.
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I want to give a shout out to our new manager, Mike V.
1:02:40
He's he's been in and out of the show all show long.
1:02:44
So thank you, Nathan, Mr. Mr. Leishman himself, as he always
1:02:49
says. Suck my indo.
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We, we love you. Thank you for doing what you do
1:02:56
and doing all the back end stuff and hopefully you're not bending
1:02:58
over as we speak. Anyways, yeah, that's it Speedy.
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Who do we have lined up next? Week Nathan got two draft
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prospects for next week, both 8:20 Eastern Time starts Monday
1:03:07
will be Jelani Davis's name. He's a defensive defensive
1:03:10
lineman draft prospect at a Kent State 6 foot two 285.
1:03:14
Pounds Lulu. He'll be joining us at 8:20.
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And then on Thursday, safety and outside linebacker from Navy 6
1:03:20
foot 202 LB Jackson Campbell will be joining us.
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Make her squirt. Make me jerk.
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Very interesting guy as always Nathan, as he always says.
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I love Lisa Ann. As he always says, and he never
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will get Lisa Ann. Just so everybody knows.
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No way. I think Lisa Lisa Ann has slept
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with every single cowboy player in the 90s.
1:03:42
Nathan's probably like like like a little teddy bear to her.
1:03:45
I mean, I mean 5 foot 6. I mean, come on.
1:03:50
She would torture that guy. Him and his blue blazer.
1:03:58
There he is. Nathan the Care Bear.
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That's it is, that's all it is. I love his hand athletes.
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Athletes. Athletes.
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Athletes. I love when he says that.
1:04:10
And I'm like, athletes. You mean athletes?
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I love you, Nath. We love you.
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That's it. Goodnight, farewell.
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