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How to Find your Unique Eating Style · Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of Chatting with the Experts where I speak
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  with phenomenal women from Africa, from the Caribbean, and in the diaspora.
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  They bring such expertise to the show and they share my mission,
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  which is to educate, to encourage, and to empower women globally.
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  Today our topic is Eat Like You, finding Freedom in Your Unique Style.
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  And what we'll be talking about with my guest when she joins us is how you can
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  discover your unique eating style that aligns with your body and your lifestyle.
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  She says it matters because eating in alignment fuels lasting
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  energy, confidence, and freedom.
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  Here's a bit about her.
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  She's a physician, she's a transformational coach, and she's
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  an Amazon best-selling author who helps high achieving women over 40
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  transform how they look and feel to match their professional success.
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  She's also a breast cancer survivor, and so she advocates for women's health.
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  There's so much more to say about her, but I'll let her do that.
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  And with that, I want to
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  welcome Dr. Ukpong Nwankwo to Chatting
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  with the Experts.
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  So good to have you here.
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  Thank you so much, , Miss Paula for this your forum and
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  for having me in your space.
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  It's such an honor and a privilege to join you today and your audience.
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  Thank you so much.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  I am the one who's privileged to have you here.
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  I mean, I love what you're doing.
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  I came across what you were talking about on Facebook, and I was like,
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  I've got to have her on the show to share what she has discovered, not has
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  discovered, but what she's doing right now, because to me it makes a difference.
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  And you know, eating like you, in other words, discovering a unique eating style
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  that aligns with your body and lifestyle.
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  In my case, I'm gonna say with my body and lifestyle.
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  Wow, that's amazing.
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  So let's jump straight into it and talk about what it is and
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  how we discover how to do this.
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  Okay.
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  Thank you so much for that question.
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  I would just say that as a busy professional woman, I was busy
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  taking care of everyone else, and with time let myself slip.
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  And
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  I started, you know, with the load of work,
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  fatigue set in, I gained
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  a lot of weight and, but I kept pushing because I felt like
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  I needed to serve everyone.
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  And my wake up call came with the breast cancer diagnosis and
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  it was an aggressive cancer.
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  And I was told in order for it not to come back, I had to release weight.
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  I had to lose the weight.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And so, I now embarked on the journey to do that, to lose weight,
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  and I thought that it was simple.
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  It was easy, but it led from one frustration after another.
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  I would try keto.
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  It felt so unhealthy, the amount of fats, and I was not comfortable with that.
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  My husband even went to Nigeria and saw a friend who lost weight and tried
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  the Cambridge diet and asked him, and they, he brought it back to me.
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  I succeeded in losing eight pounds, but gained it back because it was
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  too debilitating, constipation.
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  So I said to myself, it mustn't be this tough, it mustn't be this hard.
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  And that was when I now invested in going to a nutrition school and
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  really what occurred to me was that diet, like clothes have to fit you.
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  Just like you have a style, like you love to wear, it has to fit you.
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  I was like, ah, that's probably why this is, hasn't worked for me.
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  And then I started experimenting.
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  And I was able to release 70 pounds and keep it off.
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  Thank God this is like 10 years after, 11 years cancer free.
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  Thank God for that.
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  So, yes, and , to further, you know, say what it is because.
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  Even when I lost my weight, you know, it was because I was experimenting.
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  But to really document and pinpoint this, I did a recent training on this,
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  and it was on epigenetic testing.
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  And what really surprised me was that everybody, like I had
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  already, you know, got to know, has their unique eating style.
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  It's, like a blueprint.
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  It is like trying to restore an old building.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then , you know, you are in today 2025 and this building was in maybe in 1935.
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  You have to have the blueprint, and that's what epigenetic testing is the
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  blueprint of how you were created, your natural tendencies, how best you
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  thrive, the foods that are good for you.
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  So I actually did this epigenetic testing.
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  And to my biggest delight and surprise, the foods that I love
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  naturally are the things that are, a lot of them are good for me.
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  Wow.
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  So, and then you begin to flow in your natural state.
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  Hmm.
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  You know, you don't struggle anymore because a lot of these diets.
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  You know, they're like, they are branded as one size fits all, but one
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  size fits all doesn't fit everyone.
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  That's why some people struggle and then they now feel like a failure.
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  They feel frustrated and then they give it up.
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  So, but when you find what is your unique style, what works for you, it's easier on
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  your body because it's tailored to you.
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  It is not tailored to somebody else.
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  So it takes away the struggle, it takes away the frustration.
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  You now enter what is called the flow states where you are
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  doing things effortlessly.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  You are going with the flow rather than swimming against the flow, against
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  the currents, which takes more energy.
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  But when you are in your strength zone, you are, you
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  know, you are in your best life.
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  It's going well for you, even with me that I was like, I don't
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  need to lose anymore weight.
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  Now that I've dialed it down to exactly me and the thing, it's not just diet ooo.
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  For some people, their body types, it might be how you handle stress.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And just the little things that, you know, they told me to do in terms of my stress.
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  It's like the stress in my mind, the stress in my body followed, whew.
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  I dropped five pounds.
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  It's like, wow.
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  While eating.
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  While eating.
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  The things that you like, because you have discovered it works best for you.
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  Absolutely absolutely.
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  That is the truth.
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  That is the truth.
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  Wow.
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  I'm blown away.
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  But I see, I don't wanna say the simplicity, but I see how that comes
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  into place because if you find out what works best for you, then it makes
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  sense to do what works best for you.
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  And because, you know, we are made up, we're all different, but our
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  epigenetically, we have our own unique way of handling stress, even handling,
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  you know, happiness or handling like during the holiday seasons.
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  When people let their hair down and you eat all sorts of things.
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  But knowing that, okay, this doesn't actually work for me,
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  and this does work, really is a guide to the after holiday blues.
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  You know, many times where we are like, oh no, why did I eat that?
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  Why did I do this?
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  So I think this is so important.
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  I'm grinning from ear to ear because it's like I found a solution for me.
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  It is like handing you your own manual.
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  You know, people say, oh, I wasn't born with a manual, but actually
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  we've been born with a manual.
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  And they give you your manual.
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  This is your manual.
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  This is how you thrive best.
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  This is the best place you can live.
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  This is how you can understand your relationship.
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  This is how you can understand your food.
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  It goes beyond food because like I said, this five pounds that
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  I lost, it wasn't because of.
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  What I did differently with my food per se, is just the stress.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That I had to let go of.
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  It's like decluttering your space.
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  It's a lot of things.
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  It's a library of information about you.
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  I mean, it makes it sound like we are narcissistic, but you know what?
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  When you understand yourself.
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  And you're able to care for yourself well, you're now are in
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  a position to serve other people.
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  Just like you're in an aircraft, you're traveling with a 1-year-old, they say
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  in case of turbulence, what do you do?
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  Put on your mask first so that you can help that child.
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  Because if you pass out without putting your mask out first,
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  you can't help that child.
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  So now we are putting on our masks so that you can do your God-given purpose.
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  You can shine brightly.
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  You can, you know, live your best life.
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  You can, you know, see the doctor less often because you are in good
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  condition, good state of health and mind.
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  So it's a wonderful place to be.
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  Wow.
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  Wow, wow, wow.
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  I know we kind of like, we introduced this about your eating style,
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  you know, but let's talk about how it impacts, like your energy.
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  You said it dropped, helped you see stress differently, and you dropped five pounds.
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  Is that something you can talk about?
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  Because I mean, I'm so encouraged just listening to you.
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  Well, one of the things that, you know, I did for myself and my eating
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  type or my body type is the stress.
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  You know, I, first of all my friend came to my office and decluttered my workspace.
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  Wow.
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  You know, it's like you have too many folders here.
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  You have... she just carried everything from my desk.
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  Only that just released something inside my soul.
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  Wow.
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  And then I had a lot of work that I had not done.
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  It had piled up.
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  And then all I asked like, no, no, no, no.
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  This is weighing in heavily on me.
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  So I had to sit down and break it down and how I can now
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  get it done, get it together.
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  So that in itself, I was able to finish my notes this past weekend.
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  So all that was like a stress on my body.
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  You see, you are, when you are stressed out, as for some body types, your body
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  tells you it's not safe to release weight.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So you might be eating healthy, you might eating all the right things,
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  eating vegetables, eating everything.
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  But if you, you know, there are other aspects of life, like for me, my health
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  type stress relief is very important.
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  And for me, my body type being outside in the outdoors is very
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  healing and therapeutic for me.
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  So, like for myself, for my lunch break, I put on my sneakers, put on
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  my jacket because it's getting cold in layers and I get outside and walk.
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  And, you know, just listening to the natural sounds.
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  , I'm not listening to anything.
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  The birds, you know, just the sounds.
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  And then I have time to pray and meditate and reflect.
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  All that is nourishing to my soul.
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  So it's not just what is on our plate, because sometimes we do everything
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  right, but there are other aspects of our life that needs to come into
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  alignment to give you the energy that you need to make you feel that freedom.
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  You gain that freedom, and then you are fully attuned with your body.
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  You know, you feel energized, you feel confident.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It is such a good place to be when you are at home in your body.
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  And that's the way God designed us to be.
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  He don't want us to fight against our body and struggling, Hey, don't eat this.
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  Don't eat that.
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  You know, sometimes we focus on the don'ts and when we focus on the
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  don'ts, it's not a good place to be.
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  No.
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  Yes.
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  No.
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  And someone said to me.
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  Many times when we focus so much on the don't, you don't realize that by saying
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  no to something, that means you're opening up the opportunity for Yes.
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  So instead of focusing on, I can't, I can't focus on all the new things
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  that you can do that you opened yourself up to, being aware of, being
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  able to do, being able to sense, you know, it makes a world of difference.
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  Even as you mentioned now, going for a walk during your lunch
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  break without any headphones, I'm assuming without any distractions.
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  You're just taking in nature.
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  The wind as it's blowing the leaves, as they're falling, the birds as they're
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  singing, you know, it does make you stop.
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  Well, not literally, but it makes you, you know, reflect, reflect on life.
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  Sometimes I even walk and I look at the clouds or how blue the sky is, if it's a
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  bright day, even if it's not a bright day.
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  But you know, it's not overcast.
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  Just looking at the wow the aircraft flying and I'm thinking.
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  God, you are wonderful.
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  However, heavy aircraft like that can be in the sky.
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  I can't even fly myself, my own body, but he's given mankind opportunity
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  and the ability to, you know, to know the science and how to do that.
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  It does relieve stress.
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  Yes, ma'am.
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  Absolutely, absolutely.
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  For some body types, stress needs to be released for you to see appreciable
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  difference and in what you're doing.
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  Give you the payoff of eating right, so that you be encouraged.
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  You be encouraged because if you do something long enough and
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  it's not working, you don't see results, you get discouraged.
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  So, you know, being in your strength zone helps you get encouraged
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  because you're going to see results.
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  You're going to see results.
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  And with coaching, you see, that's where a coach helps you to be able to say,
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  okay, this is, you know, how can we read your label for you, your inside the jar?
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  But someone outside can read the label for you and say, okay,
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  alright, ask you the right questions.
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  And then you begin to say, aha.
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  This might be it.
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  Aha.
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  This is where I need to adjust.
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  Aha.
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  And then you do it, and then you see results.
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  It's so real, you know?
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  You feel so good that something is working.
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  Something finally after you've had so many repeated failures and
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  then something starts working.
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  Oh my God.
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  You feel on top of the world.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  So I know offline we talked about good food freedom.
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  What's that?
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  I think that's a benefit of course, but what's this good food freedom?
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  Yes.
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  It's looking at food in the sense that every first of
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  all, that every food is good.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  So when you do the epigenetic testing, it tells you the foods that are
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  the best for you, they're in green.
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  The foods that are okay, they're yellow, and then the ones
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  that are red are not so great.
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  But you can still eat those ones in red once a week.
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  You can have it so you don't feel deprived.
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  Okay, so you don't feel deprived.
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  Like last week I ate so clean.
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  I ate so beautifully.
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  Well, and I said, I'm gonna mess it up.
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  I wanna mess it up now.
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  So when I went for office lunch, I took a cherry pie.
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  Okay.
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  I'm gonna eat it because I want to do something to give myself extra calories.
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  Yeah.
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  And when I ate it, honestly speaking, it didn't feel good
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  in my body, so I just stopped.
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  So, you know, but things like mangoes for me and for my health
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  type is a lot of calories.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So when it's in season, I do have it, but I might have it once a week for my refeed
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  day where I can have something that I like that not necessarily is the best for me.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Because we know that if you go feeling deprived, it's just a
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  matter of time you will just say, Hey, this thing, I'm tired of it.
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  So we don't want you to be tired of it.
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  So it's everything is incorporated.
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  Plus the ones that are great for you, not so, you know.
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  Great.
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  And the ones that you know are on the red zone, you can still have
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  that so that you don't feel deprived.
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  You see, you want to feel satisfied, satiated, you know, food is meant for
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  fueling, so we don't want you to use it for an emotional crutch, but at the same
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  time, we don't want you to feel deprived.
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  Got you.
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  So I know you're a coach, and I know with the epigenetics, you're
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  a physician, you're a coach.
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  You are very much into, you know, using the mindset to empower or guide
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  women towards energy, confidence.
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  So I'm wondering, do you have one success story you can tell us about?
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  Oh, I know there are many, but just choose one so that we can hear it ourselves
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  and say, okay, I'm like that, or, Hmm.
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  That's something I can do.
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  Okay.
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  There's a lady, I will call her Nelo.
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  She came to me.
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  She actually lives in Nigeria.
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  For those who think that, oh, there are not enough good foods
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  for me to choose from, you know, so she came to me, she felt weak.
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  She had aches and pain.
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  She's like about 49 because she just when I work for her, she just turned 50.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So she felt sluggish and everything.
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  So, when we worked together, first of all, in the first three months,
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  she released 45 pounds, and up to now she's lost like about 60 pounds.
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  And not just that, she feels more confident.
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  She's the one that gets all the women in her neighborhood, takes them on a walk.
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  She's a school teacher.
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  She's made more confident so that whenever the principal is out of school,
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  she puts her there as her, substitute, you know, someone to stand in for
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  her and her business, her personal business on the side has 10 x because
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  now she feels confident I can do this.
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  She keeps thanking me.
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  Keep thanking.
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  I say, for what?
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  For what?
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  But because, you know, we now use the foods that we eat in Nigeria.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Our native foods, you know, you can, people can still eat rice, people can
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  still eat, swallow, but we now measure it and then add all the different
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  foods that will help to balance it out.
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  We worked on the mindset, we worked on so many things that on, from time
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  to time I go to her WhatsApp status.
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  She has posted her new body.
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  She's so confident.
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  She's taking pictures.
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  She's doing this, she's doing that.
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  She's happy.
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  Wow.
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  So, you know, that's one.
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  Then, you know, that was just a younger lady.
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  There's another lady, she was in her seventies, the one that I told you
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  about that was Donna Summer's manager.
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  Yes.
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  When Donna Summer was alive.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So she still works in Hollywood, but you know, when you get older it becomes
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  a competition with the younger ones.
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  So she wanted to lose 20 pounds and she's Italian.
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  She loves red wine.
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  So telling an Italian not to drink red wine, you are wasting your time.
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  Yes.
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  Red wine is calories.
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  So she knows that and I know that.
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  So I tried to work with her.
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  Oh, I don't have time for this.
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  I don't have time.
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  Finally, I asked her, so what can you do?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And then she said, oh.
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  I love to use Weight Watchers.
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  I said, okay, we are gonna use Weight Watchers.
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  We are gonna add your red wine for you.
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  And now exercise.
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  You travel a lot.
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  What can you do?
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  Can you take your sneakers with you?
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  Yes, I can.
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  So when you get into the airport, put on your sneakers before your
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  flight, do some laps in the airport.
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  In three months, my lady lost 20 pounds.
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  That's what she was trying to lose.
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  Wow.
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  And then when she went to Israel on one of the rooftops, she did a
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  live testimonial for me, thanking me and, you know, saying, whatever
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  this girl is doing, just go with her.
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  So it does work.
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  It does work.
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  When you find your strength zone, when you find your unique pattern,
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  your blueprint, you know, your manual.
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  It's gonna work, but if I try to give you what work for me or
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  another diet, it doesn't work.
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  But what is your unique blueprint is what will work for you.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  So, because I know everyone in the audience is probably waiting to ask
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  you so many questions, and this is a global issue for those who haven't
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  been able to join us in the audience, how can people follow you, get engaged
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  with you so that they too can have this unique success that's just for them?
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  My main place is on Facebook.
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  I'm there as Open one call.
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  You can DM me and if you DM me because you are especially on Ms Paula's show.
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  Ask me for my energy recipe guide for women.
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  I made that guide.
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  It's beautiful.
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  And I designed it on Canva.
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  I will share it with Ms. Paula.
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  I love it myself.
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  Anytime I look at it, it makes me feel good.
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  . So you can find me on Facebook and, you know, that's where I do
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  most of my posting, , my teaching, my sharing of my journey and
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  stuff like that is on Facebook.
• 21:43
  What about LinkedIn?
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  I'm a LinkedIn fan, so I'm always like trying to talk about, find out the people
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  are on LinkedIn for people like me.
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  I mean, Facebook I love, but I'm just getting acquainted with it.
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  Is there any other place?
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  Do you have a website?
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  I'm also on LinkedIn.
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  I'm also on LinkedIn.
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  I'm trying to understand it.
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  My website is livehealthydoc.com.
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  Live healthy Doc.
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  Okay.
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  We put all of that in the show notes.
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  We'll drop it in the chat.
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  Yes.
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  Oh my gosh, Dr. Nwankwo.
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  This has been amazing.
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  I learned so much.
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  One of my mantras is that I have to learn one thing new every day.
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  So...
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  Wow.
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  This is one of my one things.
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  One can be multiplied by many things.
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  So by the end of the day I should have like 20, but this is really, really good.
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  So for those of you who are listening to this online or viewing
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  this on YouTube, I love to invite you to be a guest on the show.
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  I mean, of course you got to reach out to me first on my website,
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  which is Chatting with the Experts, or you can contact me on LinkedIn.
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  We'll have a conversation there.
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  I'm also on Instagram.
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  My handle there is at chat_experts_podcast.
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  I'm on Facebook, as you heard me say.
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  I'm getting more and more active on Facebook.
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  My social media choice, platform has always been LinkedIn, but I can change.
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  And last but not least, talking about social media platform,
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  I'm really active on YouTube.
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  I'd love for you to like this, subscribe to us 'cause there's so much that you
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  can learn from these amazing women.
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  And I stretch out amazing because they truly are.
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  And we've also had some very fabulous men.
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  In fact, we're gonna have a show primarily for men.
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  Men talking to women about how men feel.
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  That will still be coming up soon.
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  So tune in for that.
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  Thank you, thank you.
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  Thank you, Dr. Ukpong Nwankwo for being...
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  Thank you Ms. Paula.
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  Thank you, ma'am.
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  Thank you.
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  And now we'll open up the floor for all who joined us so they
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  can ask you the questions that I couldn't remember to ask you.
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  This is so good.
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  I'm so excited.
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  Thank you, ma'am.