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SPEAKER_00: The legendary stuff would be well.
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SPEAKER_00: We've got four tests, artistry evolution, and what continues to drive one of the most electric front men in music history.
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SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mike.
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SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
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SPEAKER_00: I gotta tell you, my first time seeing Fishbone was back in the mid-90s, playing with 311, and all of my buddies went and we all bought the Fishbone Fuck Racism t-shirts, and we wore them proudly.
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SPEAKER_00: And where was where was that at again?
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SPEAKER_00: With 311 in Mississippi?
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SPEAKER_00: It was in Iowa of all places.
1:45
SPEAKER_00: It was in Iowa?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It was amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I remember we were on tour with 311, and I had on a fuck racism shirt or something like that, and I was getting everybody to share fuck racism, and the police took me in the back room and they told me that I needed to cut that out.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is during the 311 tour.
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SPEAKER_01: Damn.
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SPEAKER_01: One thing I remember about the 311 tour is that those are one of the things that stick out, other than it was a good tour.
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SPEAKER_00: If you couldn't tell, I'm joined by the one, the only Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Mad Vibe himself, Angelo Moore of Fishbone.
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SPEAKER_00: How you doing, man?
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SPEAKER_01: Man, I'm pretty good, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just out here on the Catalina Islands.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh I've been out here for a night and a day.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's it's for the first time, too, so it's pretty good, man.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: It's supposed to get away for a little while.
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SPEAKER_00: Especially with everything that's going on in our world, you kind of have to unplug and enjoy life a little bit, right?
2:47
SPEAKER_01: Gotta unplug and enjoy life exactly because of that.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it's pretty upside down, right?
2:52
SPEAKER_01: It's real upside down.
2:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, we have a mutual friend in John Heinz from the big old nasty get down.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, dude, I just released the single with him.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, when the juice ran out.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what it's called.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: When the juice ran out.
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SPEAKER_00: He told me whenever you join me on the podcast, you're just gonna light up the room.
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SPEAKER_00: And I gotta tell you, my friend, you sure are.
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SPEAKER_00: Am I lighting it up okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Good, man, good.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, perfect, perfect, perfect.
3:17
SPEAKER_00: Man, I've been such a fan of yours for so long.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's let's kind of take it back if you're okay with that and kind of talk a little bit about the origin and kind of rewind it back to Woodland Hills.
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SPEAKER_00: You grew up in a house filled full of jazz, soul, and funk.
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SPEAKER_00: How much did your parents' influence, uh, especially your dad playing with Count Basie, shape the kind of artist you became?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, my parents and my family was always playing a lot of a lot of music, a lot of a lot of jazz and blues and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh just a lot of black culture, man.
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SPEAKER_01: The movies that was going on, the parties we'd have.
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SPEAKER_01: Even though we were even though we were growing up, I grew up in a white neighborhood.
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SPEAKER_01: When we would have parties and stuff like that, it'd be like, oh, everybody would come in.
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SPEAKER_01: That that block would be black for that night.
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SPEAKER_01: All the Fred Sanford and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh what else?
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SPEAKER_01: Earth Windows Fire, Paul Cadellix, James Brown, Sly Stone, all that was coming out of the house.
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SPEAKER_01: Plus G.
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SPEAKER_01: Ellington and Lewis Jordan uh was coming out of there.
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SPEAKER_01: And then and then shortly after I shortly after I I got uh like in high school I was discovering punk rock going to Hollywood to rehearse with um fish bar and knowing what the fish is part we call the aquarium.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I was discovering a lot of punk rock going through Hollywood.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what we discovered.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh that's what it we all met the Chili Peppers and James Addiction, and everybody was just a part of that whole music scene back in the 80s.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: I had all the and then I go to the hood to rehearse the football, so everybody was, you know, we had all of our music, but then we got introduced with uh to a lot of rock and punk rock and stuff in the in the in the Hollywood scene.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what started to mix up the genres, the diversity of genres some more.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the reggae scene chain came along with it too, believe it or not.
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SPEAKER_00: Fishbone sound has always defied genre like ska punk, funk, metal, soul, you name it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Was that fusion intentional rebellion or just a reflection of what you guys were living and feeling at the time?
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SPEAKER_01: It was just a reflection of what we were living and feeling at the time, because that's what that's what was going on, at least in our world.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: I guess to everybody else, it looked like a rebellion, huh?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, hell no.
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SPEAKER_01: It looked like a good time to me, my friend.
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SPEAKER_01: It looked like a good time, but it was still, it was still uh it had a lot of rebellion to it when I think about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Or maybe it may have been unintentional, but it was there because of just what what was what we were living in our society at that time.
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SPEAKER_01: And even now, man, it's a lot of racism and a lot of drugs, still a lot of good times, but it's that it's the dark side of it too that was there.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I guess that's probably what came off as uh some some rebellious elements, like in our in our lyrics and we address some of racism and social issues.
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SPEAKER_00: I and that's what's always that's what's always made me love you guys, is is like you've never been apologetic about who you guys truly are.
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SPEAKER_00: And it it's always bled through in the music and your message, and that's why I've always enjoyed you.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you, man.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right on.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, you know what?
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SPEAKER_01: So in your room in the back, you got a skull up in the corner.
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SPEAKER_01: What is that?
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SPEAKER_01: The uh is that a t-shirt?
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SPEAKER_01: Is that a no?
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SPEAKER_00: It's a it's an actual mask.
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SPEAKER_00: I've got my clash poster, my misfits map.
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SPEAKER_01: Misfits map, like a misfits.
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SPEAKER_01: See?
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SPEAKER_01: So your mask is matching my image right here, too.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: You've you've got this incredible alter ego, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Mad Vibe, poet, performer, philosopher.
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SPEAKER_00: What inspired you to create that persona and how does it allow you to express parts of yourself that maybe Fishbone doesn't?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, Lawrence Fishburn threw that name on me, and I kept it.
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SPEAKER_01: And I kept it.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, that was another persona for me to just to just like get some of the some of the music and some different philosophies I got out if I couldn't get them out to Fishbone.
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SPEAKER_01: And I would get them out to Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: Mad Vibe.
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SPEAKER_01: So do you ever do you ever merge them?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh well, a couple of times.
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SPEAKER_01: I I guess I was able to.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: Mad Vibe, it's not like it was just a completely different person.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just a like a like a new nickname or persona.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, all of my music still sounds the same.
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SPEAKER_01: I would say to Fitchbone sometimes when I would introduce some of my music uh to the band, they would go, oh, that's that's Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: Mad Vibe.
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SPEAKER_01: We just want Angelo.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, but Angelo is Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: Mad Vibe, man.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
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SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, right.
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SPEAKER_01: That's so um some of my songs would get done.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody's songs would get done, but after a while it started to get a little one-sided.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I just started digging more into Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: Mad Bob, which is myself, and making sure those songs and videos and ideas matter.
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SPEAKER_01: As a matter of fact, I got a book.
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SPEAKER_01: I got a book, man, my social studies book called the Olegna Phenomenon.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's got an audio book that goes with it.
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SPEAKER_01: This is my social studies book right here, called the Olegna Phenomenon, right?
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SPEAKER_01: It comes with a it comes with a chip.
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SPEAKER_01: This one doesn't have a chip with it right now, but it's an audio book that comes with it, and you can hear it, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So this is all of my all of my short stories, all of this, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Art, stories, and I'm narrating the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_01: You can order from my site, drabbob.com.
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SPEAKER_01: D-R-M-A-B-D-I-B-D.com, baby.
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SPEAKER_01: Right here.
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SPEAKER_01: Love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So I got a whole bunch of.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, it's been really proud of it, man.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I got miss, I got this other book called Sky Do a Sky Don't.
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SPEAKER_01: And that and that comes with it, that comes with a USB chip, and all the music is in there, and these are all the lyrics.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, killer! Oh, yeah, lyrics, man, photos, art, all kinds of stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: The people I've collaborated with, Christine Forbes from the Scotch Bonnets, me do some stars together, and there's some Japanese dark side of Tokyo, man.
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SPEAKER_01: It's all in here.
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SPEAKER_00: Love it.
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SPEAKER_01: My state is the Yamaha.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of the art in the book.
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SPEAKER_01: So I got stuff, and then I got this, I got this thing called a brand new step, too, which is my contemporary project.
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SPEAKER_01: It's more on the pop side, but it's bad as hell, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I was I've been checking that out.
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SPEAKER_01: You've been checking out the brand new step?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_01: And so, and we I just released something with them called Perceptions, which is the vinyl.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh, I saw that off my website and at my shows when I get a chance.
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SPEAKER_01: And uh I'm just actually this new single just came out called Under Attack.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's with Dan Ubick and Big out of Super Jock record out of New Orleans, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So the video's out there now, and it's called We're Under Attack, and you can almost imagine, but that's about that's about that's about uh our government right now and our country and our situation, and we're under attack.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's talk about Fishbone's latest record that you dropped this year, Stockholm Syndrome.
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SPEAKER_00: It's being hailed as some of your most powerful work in years.
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SPEAKER_00: How does it feel seeing the band's message still getting heard?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm really thankful, man.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm thankful it's a God bless to still be able to continue to channel and translate um a lot of things that's going on in our world and society, to channel and translate the future and be able to write it down and put it out there you know through the medium of music so people can enjoy it and digest it and learn from it, man.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the latest videos or more recent videos that you've dropped is Last Call in America.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Can we talk about that a little bit and a little bit of the background?
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes people need to be reminded in layman terms, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So pretty much last call in America.
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SPEAKER_01: If we don't if our if if people don't step out, say something, do something like the No Kings rally, we're fucked.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the last call.
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SPEAKER_01: That means that means America is sold to the Rooskies and any other fucked up ass phenomenon or concept that's out there that wants to keep America from being the free country that we stay we're supposed to be.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, uh it's the last call, or a dictatorship is coming, and we're gonna be we're gonna be fucked, man.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, and in the bottom line.
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SPEAKER_01: What more can I say?
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SPEAKER_01: I can say a lot, but do we really have time?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_01: We all know we all know that that Trump is, we should know that Trump is fucked up, and he doesn't mean any good for any goddamn body whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_01: Period, in the story.
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SPEAKER_01: Details, man.
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SPEAKER_01: You can see that shit on the news and out there, and people, people who vote who voted for Trump or if for the Okie Do.
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SPEAKER_01: I ordered a musical instrument just recently from Berlin.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I ordered a theremon and it's on its way here, but it's been on its way here for like about like a month now, and it's been slowed down because of the tariff shit that Trump is putting on everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: So they a DHL, they just called me today and told me I had to put uh I gotta pay an extra$33 on top of the mailing fees I gotta pay to get my shit over here.
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SPEAKER_01: And they sent it back to my to my connection in Berlin to send it back to him twice, and now he's sending it back to me for the third time.
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SPEAKER_01: All because of that, all because of that motherfucker, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And just think all these tariffs and shit, I bet you they went into that useless ass ballroom he's got over there.
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SPEAKER_01: Agreed.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it may be it may be useful for him and who he wants to be a part of it, but it ain't helping nobody else.
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SPEAKER_00: Despite everything bad that's been done, why why is nothing sticking?
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SPEAKER_00: Why is the American public at large not completely turning on him?
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SPEAKER_00: Dude, I it's a you know, I'm gonna tell you why I think so.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a Bible prophecy.
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SPEAKER_01: Think so?
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SPEAKER_01: Why did the Red Sea open up?
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SPEAKER_01: Why did it open up when when when Moses was leaving the Israelites through, and and uh and then when they got halfway through, or almost uh in the in the in the what is it, the Egyptians got halfway through and then the sea fell in on them and shit?
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SPEAKER_01: Why did that happen?
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SPEAKER_01: It was some god, it was some god shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It was some God beyond our it's like some beyond our our control or logic.
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SPEAKER_01: God had a plan to save the Israelites, and he had a plan to open up the sea and and close in on the enemy.
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SPEAKER_01: Now and it was beyond their control, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So Trump in office right now, it's almost like no matter how much sense it would make to get his ass out of there, he's in there.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe maybe Trump is here to show us how fucked up we are.
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SPEAKER_01: Or how fucked up we've become.
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SPEAKER_01: Or how fucked up we've become.
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SPEAKER_01: And no matter how no matter how much sense it makes to me and you, you got some other people out there that's in charge of some bitch that ain't seeing they they're not seeing how urgent it it is to get his ass out of there.
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SPEAKER_01: And and this beyond me, man.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, all I can do is as someone who is an artist, musician, and a visionary, all I can do is when I channel it, when I channel what I feel the truth the reality is, when I channel that shit, I write it down, and then I put the music to it, which makes it the magic, and I put it out there in hopes that it will change something to make to make the Red Sea flows faster, or what the fuck, dude.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's you know all we can keep doing is putting one foot in front of the other and trying to be the best version of ourselves that we could absolutely be.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So so your recent KEXP performance was electric.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like pure fishbone energy.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the secret to keeping that fire alive after 3,000 plus shows?
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SPEAKER_01: Well fuck, man.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, I haven't drank since 2020.
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SPEAKER_01: Congratulations, by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So I haven't drank since 2020, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And uh that helps a whole hell of a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: I was still drinking, I wouldn't be able to do this shit now.
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SPEAKER_01: Got my drink, I got I got that.
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SPEAKER_01: I got I was managed to get a hold on that.
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SPEAKER_01: I got my therapy happening and shit, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Make sure you got yourself a shrink to go to and shit every once in a while.
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SPEAKER_01: So you know what you know what the fuck you're doing.
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SPEAKER_01: So just in case the street starts turning sideways, you won't slide off the fucking earth.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: Look at this shit.
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SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at all these goddamn people.
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SPEAKER_01: That shit's like exitus, movement of the people.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes! So with new music, new projects, the band that's alive more now than ever, what's next for Angelo Moore?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, we're working on, we're working on starting to put together songs for the next record.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: So we got that coming.
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SPEAKER_01: We're working on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I got this, and I just released this single called We're Under Attack by Dan Ubick and Ben.
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SPEAKER_01: Super John Records.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, and then uh there's this other album that just recently came out and video from this band called Butterbrain in the East Coast.
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SPEAKER_01: Butterbrain, how to rock away New York.
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SPEAKER_01: And I produce uh some songs on there on their uh produce some songs on their release, and I'm gonna be doing a run with them, a week's run, in December at Art Battle in Miami.
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SPEAKER_01: Love it, playing keys and singing with those guys, and um then I got this David Bowie, David Bowie presentation that I do around J like like February.
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SPEAKER_01: Or like two weeks out of February, yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Amazing, amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: So, my closing question for everybody, and it's my favorite question to ask, and I can't wait for your answer.
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SPEAKER_00: What's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today, my friend?
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SPEAKER_00: Love one another.
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SPEAKER_01: Love one another no matter the color.
19:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes, there's my Coca-Cola, baby.
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SPEAKER_00: Love it! You know, yes, sir, yes, sir, man.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: Angelo Moore, I gotta tell you, my friend, it has been an honor having a conversation with you.
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SPEAKER_00: The world is a much better place with you and it, my friend.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you, man.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: Once again, I'd like to thank my friend Angelo Moore of Fishbone for joining me on the podcast today.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd also like to give big thanks to John Heinz from the big old nasty get down, and Dana at Indie Music Media for help setting this conversation up.
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SPEAKER_00: You can find Angelo on Instagram at Dr.MadVi, follow Fishbone at Fishbone Soldier, go to www.drmadvibe.com to check out Angelo's merchandise, his books, all the creative products that he offers.
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SPEAKER_00: Judging from what I saw on the episode, it's got some pretty cool shit.
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SPEAKER_00: You can also give me a follow at Cot on the Mic on all social media platforms and visit me at www.hotonthemic.com.
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SPEAKER_00: This has been Cot on the Mic with Michael Clark.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm Michael Clark.
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SPEAKER_00: Till next time.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.