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Satanic Cults, Ed Gein, & Ritual Killings (Feat. JJ Vance) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 5: Once again, that's your host of Operation GCD JJ vance
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  Speaker 5: Julie the Cosmic Peach back from maternity leave, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Operation GCD. Man for the very first time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, very first time.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Not only is it my first time, I'm
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  Speaker 2: You're at it, you're at it, you're out of control.
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  Speaker 2: I have no doubt there will.
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  Speaker 4: Be plenty of beehole discussion tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It's still up and go get out on.
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  Speaker 4: That's some time off, right, Yeah, it's hard to podcast
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  Speaker 4: when you're tens busted wide open.
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  Speaker 2: But you know I'm back here the whole reference of
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  Speaker 2: I gotta get hey, I gotta get my ship to
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  Speaker 2: get here, Bud. What's over there? Man?
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  Speaker 6: Nothing really new. I mean, I'm just doing some dives
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  Speaker 6: different people.
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  Speaker 2: You were describing a show.
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  Speaker 5: I do frequently tune into your show, sir, and you
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  Speaker 5: were describing the show I apparently missed. Perhaps it's a
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  Speaker 5: newer one than I am not here too familiar with. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: can you remind me a game? We were talking offline
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  Speaker 5: about a show.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, we were talking about I had to interviewed
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  Speaker 6: a guy named Jeffrey Smalden. He had spent quite a
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  Speaker 6: bit of time going to prisons and talking to serial killers,
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  Speaker 6: and we did one, uh John Wayne Gacy. So it's
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  Speaker 6: a pretty pretty interesting dive in really interesting kind of character.
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  Speaker 5: That is very interesting and relative to tonight's discussion. Julie
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  Speaker 5: and I were gonna do an that guy in discussion. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: then she went ahead and had a baby that day
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  Speaker 5: and canceled on me.
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  Speaker 2: How dare she?
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  Speaker 5: We're we doing a lot of that tonight, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: not gonna lie to you when I was, you know
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  Speaker 5: in one of my takes on that gun. He seems
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  Speaker 5: like a kind of a gayzy character amongst his community
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  Speaker 5: as far as being well liked. And he's always doing
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  Speaker 5: like magic shows and stuff for the kids. You know,
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  Speaker 5: kind of clown not a clown, but kind of clown like.
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  Speaker 2: Jester like, if you will.
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  Speaker 5: That's gonna be some of our topic here tonight. And
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  Speaker 5: last but not least, uh, the other JJ. This dude's
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  Speaker 5: out there trying out JJ. Mean, while I respect it, Sarah,
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  Speaker 5: I will have none of it. Welcome back to Operation GCD, there,
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  Speaker 5: Jacob J host of Rise to Liberties.
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  Speaker 7: Yes sir, yes, sir, thank you so much for having
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  Speaker 7: me back. And hey, like I said, with the JJ thing,
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  Speaker 7: I gotta try man, you're out there second.
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  Speaker 2: I respect that, I respect, I respect the attempts, But
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  Speaker 2: how dare you, sir?
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  Speaker 7: That's all.
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  Speaker 2: What's with the Rise of Liberty podcast?
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  Speaker 7: Sir, Well, right now, I'm actually in the middle of
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  Speaker 7: a deep dive of the West Memphis three. You know.
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  Speaker 7: That's that's a big thing. I've I've got a couple
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  Speaker 7: of shows coming up with William Ramsey, uh with you know,
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  Speaker 7: the West Memphis three.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: This is a case that I kind of feel some
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  Speaker 7: personal attachment to because you know, the lie that these
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  Speaker 7: boys were just picked on because they listened to heavy
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  Speaker 7: metal and wore black T shirts and stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and there are people like that out there, you know,
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  Speaker 7: but they don't commit ritualistic murder.
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  Speaker 2: So I you mean to tell me that this was
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  Speaker 2: not part of the Satanic panic.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it definitely was the Satanic panic. That was definitely planned,
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  Speaker 7: and you're of that panic, sir. I hope you realize this,
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  Speaker 7: right right, still going.
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  Speaker 4: I agree though, it's like, not everybody who shops at
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  Speaker 4: Hot Topic cuts little boys penises off, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like, this is not Those two things
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  Speaker 4: don't always go together.
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  Speaker 7: Right, right, So yeah, that's uh, that's what I'm going with.
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  Speaker 7: And also, of course, you know, I'm looking at doing
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  Speaker 7: a review of the most recent John Wayne Gacy uh
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  Speaker 7: draw Dramau series that came out on Peacock the Devil
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  Speaker 7: in Disguise, because of course, not a single point in
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  Speaker 7: that did they mention Philip Paskey and I have a
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  Speaker 7: I have a more major the.
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  Speaker 4: Like the clown and the candyman stuff, right, Coral and
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  Speaker 4: all the fucking Pet Network stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's weird, sir. We were just talking about
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  Speaker 5: John Gacy. So that's there'll be some good discussions we
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  Speaker 5: can get into tonight as well. And I'd like to
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  Speaker 5: hear your thoughts on West Memphis three. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: for a moment see what you're What you're pointing on
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  Speaker 5: is what I think is part of the larger operations
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  Speaker 5: of this panic. We're in this propaganda machine. It's not
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  Speaker 5: just the actual convincing of the panic gets the spin
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  Speaker 5: around matters such as high profile crimes. We see it
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  Speaker 5: there with the West Memphis three. Them boys did something.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying they were solely responsible one fact, I
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  Speaker 5: think there's a lot more to it in fact they did. However,
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  Speaker 5: get Damien Echles was interrogated and it's videotaped and unvailable
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  Speaker 5: on YouTube. He does know, in fact, details of the
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  Speaker 5: crime that only the killers and police should know, so right,
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  Speaker 5: do that with what ch will as far as calling
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  Speaker 5: them innocent, right.
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  Speaker 7: Right, right exactly, And you know, I kind of have
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  Speaker 7: a hard time with somebody who was innocent and also
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  Speaker 7: happens to be best friends with Johnny Depp, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and somebody that also totalcidence creates right, right, total coincidence,
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  Speaker 7: somebody that also recreates Aleister Crowley pictures. You know that
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  Speaker 7: that person clearly does not have any knowledge.
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  Speaker 5: Of the occult, absolutely not, all right, Amien eckles Aim
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  Speaker 5: his real name, dude, who is his daddy? And what
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  Speaker 5: does he do? We're not playing that game. Well, we're
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  Speaker 5: playing that game tonight, just not with him, but perhaps
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  Speaker 5: in the future. But I thank y'all, all three of
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  Speaker 5: you all for joining me here tonight to gil GCD,
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  Speaker 5: and you folks of the interwebs here as well joining us.
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  Speaker 5: I have one quick plug for myself speaking of Satan
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  Speaker 5: Satan shit uh tomorrow and I got a Saturday Night
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  Speaker 5: Satan double feature of well Operation GCD Thursdays on Saturday
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  Speaker 5: at nine thirty pm, Easter Sainter Times, The Anatomy of
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  Speaker 5: the Satanic Panic and again West Memphis three comes at
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  Speaker 5: a very interesting time in that panic. In fact, we
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  Speaker 5: are still panic folks, so you know, beware. But that
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  Speaker 5: is the life and crimes of Muppet Mikey, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the man behind the sye op in his pal ted Gunderson.
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  Speaker 9: There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
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  Speaker 9: been shot with a laser beat twice.
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  Speaker 2: Careful folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant.
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  Speaker 4: So they got him right in his bee hole too.
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  Speaker 5: It was awful, tragic, be a hole shot, I understand.
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  Speaker 5: So where would you folks like to kick this conversation
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  Speaker 5: off tonight? Would it be ed Guin. We'll do it
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  Speaker 5: chronologically speaking as far as satan murder goes. That's before
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  Speaker 5: the term satanism, but it has all the hallmarks of
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  Speaker 5: anything we would call ritual satanic murder post nineteen sixty six.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I could open us up with a
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  Speaker 4: couple of points here if if that's cool with you guys,
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  Speaker 4: of course, yes, ma'am. So it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: pop culture thing within the last couple of years. The
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  Speaker 4: guy Ryan Murphy who did American Horror Story. Also before
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  Speaker 4: that he did Glee, and you know with Glee, Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 4: I apologize.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize. I'm not familiar with this Ryan Murphy character.
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  Speaker 2: Per se. Did you just tell me he did American
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  Speaker 2: Horror Story and then Glee?
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  Speaker 4: No, he did Glee first, and then he did American
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  Speaker 4: Horror Story.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so Glee he might be more of a
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  Speaker 2: scary show he did than I'm not sure, but what.
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  Speaker 4: It's weird, right, right, So listen, I got a whole
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  Speaker 4: fucking theory going on here about this guy. So he
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  Speaker 4: does Glee, and a lot of the people involved with
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  Speaker 4: Glee end up dying in mysterious ways. It's like final
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  Speaker 4: Destination Glee.
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  Speaker 2: You know, familiar you're talking about, right, And so then.
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  Speaker 4: He goes on to make American Horror Story. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of conspiracy candy within almost every season of American Horror Story,
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Brent, I see your comment there. And then
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  Speaker 4: he goes on now to make serial killer shows on Netflix.
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  Speaker 4: So first it's Glee, then it's American Story. Now he's
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  Speaker 4: doing these series called Monster. The first one he did
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  Speaker 4: was about Jeffrey Dahmer. The second one he did was
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  Speaker 4: about the Menindas Brothers. Now the third one has come
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  Speaker 4: out and it's about Ed Gian and I find it
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  Speaker 4: very interesting that he is choosing these specific killers to
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  Speaker 4: do the series on because they're all mentioned in Program
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  Speaker 4: to Kill. Even the Menindez brothers. It's like their dad
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  Speaker 4: was raping on them. They went crazy and killed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably people raping on them kids, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So it's like he chooses Jeffrey Dahmer oddly enough,
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  Speaker 4: the Menindez brothers, and now at Gean, who he calls
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  Speaker 4: like the godfather of all serial killers.
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  Speaker 5: And so you know, if I may add some of that,
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  Speaker 5: some of to that, well, hold on a sec I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna rewind there. First of all, excellent comment. There's there
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  Speaker 5: about the satanic cold activity and around the Bridgewater Triangle
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  Speaker 5: if you will, Uh, not only is the s we're
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  Speaker 5: speaking of cannibals tonight, kid dedling cannibals allegedly with that
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  Speaker 5: guy in right, amongst other things.
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  Speaker 2: Serial serial psychopathic serial killers, believe it or not. I
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  Speaker 2: knew a kid, did it know? I met him?
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  Speaker 5: A kid dieditling cannibalistic psychopathic serial killer who was once
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  Speaker 5: in prisoned within the same area there in the Bridgewater
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  Speaker 5: State Mental Hospital, and then he was I think he was.
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  Speaker 5: But I have a theory that he's been used as
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  Speaker 5: a recruiter of sorts for a cult activity with all
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  Speaker 5: these kids. He was in a lot of kids stuff
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  Speaker 5: and they just kept letting them out, you know, amongst
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  Speaker 5: other things. This is usually before I met him, came
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  Speaker 5: face to face with him right right there in Cascade
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  Speaker 5: County Jail, pure evil. He may or may not have
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  Speaker 5: served me a human meatburger. Also the year prior at
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  Speaker 5: the Heartys that probably did happen. But today in that
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  Speaker 5: same Bridgewater State Mental Hospital allegedly and I do stress
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  Speaker 5: the term allegedly since my old stalker and want to
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  Speaker 5: be pr rep Buffalo Jared Revisa and if you I'm
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  Speaker 5: familiar with them, miss him in the introduction here he goes, uh,
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  Speaker 5: that's Buffalo Jared in the in the concept of this
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  Speaker 5: whole buffalo bill from Songs of the Lambs and whatnot,
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  Speaker 5: or as I call him, Buffalo Jared. Uh, that actually
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  Speaker 5: originates with ed Gene, Right, Yes, so.
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  Speaker 4: Ed Gian was the inspiration for Silence of the Lambs,
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  Speaker 4: Psycho and the Texas Chainsaw Massacre supposedly, right, so he
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  Speaker 4: how bad do you have to be to inspire not one,
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  Speaker 4: but three horror movies about you you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, but is he a fall guy?
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  Speaker 10: He is?
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  Speaker 4: So that this is the thing and we can get
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  Speaker 4: right into it if you want.
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  Speaker 3: What do you have?
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  Speaker 2: I made?
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  Speaker 9: Man?
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  Speaker 2: What do you just know?
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  Speaker 5: Are you familiar with the tales of ed Gean, this
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  Speaker 5: new Netflix documentary or this Brian Murphy character. It seems
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  Speaker 5: like a dark son of a bitch. She knows what
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely familiar with Ryan Murphy and definitely
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  Speaker 7: familiar with ed Gean.
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  Speaker 2: You knew him? Did he serve you human meat burger? Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, very very much. Might not have been born yeah, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 7: he he actually died before I was even.
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  Speaker 5: Born, so maybe his son served human human be burgers.
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  Speaker 5: He did live though to the eighties though. Check this
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  Speaker 5: out who interviewed the guy right and by macer another
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  Speaker 5: character amongst all these kind of true crime serial killers.
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  Speaker 5: As you were saying, you know, telling these tales of
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  Speaker 5: like Ryan Murphy's doing the you know, specific tales dom
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  Speaker 5: or et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: We got that character. Damn it, I've done lost is okay,
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  Speaker 2: it'll get.
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  Speaker 5: Back to me here in a second. Ahead, sir, I've
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  Speaker 5: done lost. I'm stucking him up at World. He's involved
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  Speaker 5: in all that new the new Netflix stuff though, as well,
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  Speaker 5: around Tom O'Neil and Ship, Danny Casteleiro's project It'll talk
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  Speaker 5: us the Octopus, yeap. So it's interesting always who tells
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  Speaker 5: us these tales there right now?
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  Speaker 2: He is the guy who was h.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know what I'm talking about, Julie who who
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  Speaker 5: interviewed Edgie in prison there in them tapes, like you know,
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  Speaker 5: late seventies.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the filmmaker.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, actually, but they got it. They they put something
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  Speaker 4: kind of like that in the Netflix show, but it
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  Speaker 4: was actually not true at all, which I'll get into later.
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  Speaker 2: But jumping the jumping the gun here.
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  Speaker 4: No you're not the gun. It's just yeah, they didn't
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  Speaker 4: put it in right in the show. They made they
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  Speaker 4: like conflated some ship.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, scale of not putting it in right right?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Does that is that a subtle b whole reference? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: No, kidding right? Well, you know, so they say Edgie
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  Speaker 4: and uh you know he was he collected body parts.
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  Speaker 4: He had like a nipple belt and like a human
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  Speaker 4: face mask, and he had human hand gloves. Uh, he
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  Speaker 4: ate out of skulls like he ate his fucking cereal
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  Speaker 4: out of sucking skulls and shit body suits. Right, he
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  Speaker 4: had bodysuits, he had like dehydrated vulvas in like a
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  Speaker 4: keepsake box. And you know he would just dress up
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  Speaker 4: in his mom's fucking underwear and put dried out volva
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  Speaker 4: on his penis and wear it around. And he was
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  Speaker 4: a sixth son of a bitch allegedly, right, But it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you can be a six son of a
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  Speaker 4: bitch and still not actually have murdered anybody.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 5: You've me a six on a bitch for sure, until
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  Speaker 5: it right there with you, ma'am. And he could be
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  Speaker 5: part of a larger network and fall guy, which is
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  Speaker 5: often when I the pattern of behavior I see around
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  Speaker 5: all these high profile quote unquote satannic murders, homicide, ritual sacrifices,
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  Speaker 5: serial killers, is there's a larger network of folks arounding
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  Speaker 5: a quote unquote fall guy that seems to take the
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  Speaker 5: rap for everything.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he seems to be simple minded a lot like
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  Speaker 4: Henry Lee Lucas, and so so I have seen with
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  Speaker 4: Henry Lee Lucas, like how they do this playbook of sure,
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  Speaker 4: let Henry take the fall for all this shit doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean he did it though, And well, he might have
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  Speaker 4: killed his mom or whatever they say he killed like
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  Speaker 4: his mom and his girlfriend, but he didn't fucking kill
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  Speaker 4: thousands like they said.
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  Speaker 2: Like, right, That's what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly. Well, again,
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  Speaker 2: it goes back to the evidence.
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  Speaker 5: You can dance Henry Lucas around America and have him
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  Speaker 5: claimed six hundred some odd murders, or you could provide
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  Speaker 5: some evidence he's connected to any of it, right, show
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  Speaker 5: he was even in the town when it acuraged, showing
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  Speaker 5: me he's in proximity to such a situation.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, though, is like with ed Gee,
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  Speaker 4: and sure he's a sick, depraved individual. Yes he was
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  Speaker 4: grave robbing, Yeah he had a weird crush on his mom,
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  Speaker 4: But did he murder anybody?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: He probably he probably fucked a lot of corpses. That
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean he murdered anybody, right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Right, That's what I'm saying, is like, Okay, yeah, he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: into some sick, fucking, weird, fucking necro shit, but I
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: don't know if that means he actually like they say,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: he killed his brother, even in my own Yeah, Okay,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: you're speaking not you know, the rest of the panel.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But I think, uh, you know, his mom was involved
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: in this satanic cult, right, generational Satanism, and uh, you
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: know they say his brother he killed his brother. His
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: brother could have died, you know, as a result of
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: some old this bullshit. But uh, you know, there's no
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: evidence of him actually murdering anybody. I think he was
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: like the Finisher guy, a lot like they.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That's interesting, Okay, I've considered that he's WinCE in the Wolf.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: So so what's really interesting, Uh if you go back
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: and read through some of the newspapers at the time,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: or you go back and read through you know, the
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: Central State Hospital documents or anything like this. Anytime Ed
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: is actually asked about the murders, he says that he
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: can't remember any of them.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, allegedly he only killed two people and so, but
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: he was caught with all these body parts. So I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: at the very least he was at least guilty of
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: gray robbing. At least, in my opinion, he definitely was. However,
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: the murder thing, I agree with Julia. I mean, there's
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: there is no evidence directly, uh, and that this is
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: long before you know DNA evidence. Obviously, they just assume
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: you have a woman strung up like a deer gutted
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: in your garage and you're the one guilty of it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: It does look bad, It does look really bad.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it makes you look like shit. Actually when
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: you have somebody.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: You know, But who's to say someone didn't plant that?
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: You say something lady's body. I'm not saying her body
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: wasn't there. I'm just saying he's to say that, ed,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I mean was there?
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: And I guess.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: You don't have a fancy nickname for him Wisconsin cheese.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean they called him like the ghoul
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: of playing Field and stuff like this. You know, I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: notorious for coming up with my own monikers, which give
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: me a minute.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really enjoy your nicknames for these characters.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Could be the dehydrated volva killer, you know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: But so the thing about him an acronym in there, Maybe.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: He will I'll, you know, give me a minute, it'll
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: come to me. It's like, you know, when I'm not
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: thinking of it, it'll happen, right, It's like magic.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But you I think you hit on a good point.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: If we can start whoa calm down, chronologically speaking, regarding
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: his mother being involved in some sort of generational activities.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, yeah, he bodies were actually at
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: the house, right that. I think that they were actually there.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: But the thing is is he could be like the
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: weird finisher guy like Gacy or something. They drop bodies
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: off at his heath. They only got a confession out
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: of him after they like knocked his fucking block off.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: The sheriff like beat him.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: Investigator. Yeah, the lead investigator beat the hell out of him,
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: which was really interesting personally. I believe he's a victim
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: of d I D. You know, he was programmed basically
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: under like MK ultra mind control programming, which is why
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: he can't remember doing it because he actually wasn't the
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: trigger man, although they weren't. Actually I believe the one
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: hardware store owner was shot. I believe, So, yeah, he
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: wasn't the trigger man, is what I'm trying to say.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: And that's, in my opinion, why he can't remember the
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: murders and he's got these chunks of time missing, because
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: that's that's a very standard side effect of programming, is
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: not being able to remember these things.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: One hundred I completely agree with that, and it's like
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: he is simple minded JJ. It's like he's he's the
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Forrest Gump of fucking serial killers.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: And he because look, how look at the impression he's
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: left on our society, at bars, in our media.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Everyone.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: So you know what's weird is everyone loved him too,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: like he was he was like all the rage in
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: the town. Like I actually haven't seen the newest ed
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: game thing on Netflix, but you know they they kind
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: of portray him as like one where girls didn't like
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: him and the townspeople kind of thought he was like
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: this recluse and an idiot. They might have, but I
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: mean from all accounts, everyone said that they loved him.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: I mean he even babies for people in the town.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: You know, the same as John Wayne Gacy.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It's kind of saying I get the Gaysey impression all day.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: He's known as a jester. He would entertain the children
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: with magic shows.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I mean that's very much the same kind of community
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: like character that Gaysey had or reputation, which.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: Makes him perfect for a fall guy.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, he and you know what else makes
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: him a perfect fall guy is like he's he lives
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: with his mom. You know, it's like he's a gentle
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: gumpy kind of like town folk.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: He's super gumpy guy.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: He's connected here right as far as again, and like
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: he like what what was known about serial killings or
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: you know, just you know, a very aggressive homicide prior
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: to I mean, I know there was some I'm just
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: saying this really redefined. Like there was the axe Man
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: of New Orleans, there was the texar Canus situations there
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: in the late forties. I'm just saying there's there was
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: incidents of a massacres previous to this, but this redefined massacres.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: This guy, well, yeah, and you know his depravity, uh
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: kind of redefined depravity. You know, when they bust into
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: this guy's house, it's on a whole other level. I
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: mean he chainsaws some bitches whole like from tit's to
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: you know, crap.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I saw someone someone died just like that in studio
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: six six six there Dale was watching.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, there are pictures of this stuff.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You should.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: You should some of the crime You should pull those up.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Don't do.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: It. Do it the crime, the real the real crime scene.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Because I'm telling you you guys like the the human
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: face masks and the hand gloves and the skull balls
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and all this stuff. Right, it's it's it's unprecedented.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: But it was incredibly odd for the time. Although I
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: mean there were many there were many today, right, yeah, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: I mean maybe not for Portland. I mean there there
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: were many serial killers before then. You know, the one
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: that always comes to mind late eighteen hundreds is bel Gunnis.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: You know, she was a woman, which is odd enough
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: for a serial killer of any time, but she yeah, allegedly,
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: but she would lure traveling men into her uh, into
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: her farmhouse, you know, offer them room and board, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: a hot bail or whatever, and she would do away
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: with them hh Holmes style and they were just never
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: seen from again.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about a JH. Holmes was a fucking
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: psychopath too, right, I mean did don't all of these
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: like reek of occultism to you though? Like think about
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: this Jack the Ripper, right, there's a lot of occult
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: ship going now with Jack the Ripper. There's even stories
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: that somehow, like Helena Blovotsky and like Alistair Crowley were
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: somehow involved with Jack the Ripper And then you have
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: like the Torso murderer, the whoever hacked the fucking tits
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: off the Black Dahlia. Uh you know this is all
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you know, this is all before ed Gian though, So
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I agree with Jacob, that's not like serial Killer was new,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: but he did some depraved ass ship that made a
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: name for himself.
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's kind of like Columbine to school shootings.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: You know, there was school shootings before Columbine, but Columbine
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: was the thing that put it on the map for everyone.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: And same thing game because even.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: There was Mississippi due there was Jones Arkansas. I can
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: refuse the school shootings, but like.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: With edgiean uh you know, like let's just take for example,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Jack the Ripper. Okay, what do he do? He stabbed
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a couple of bit just you know, molested them a
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: little bit, did.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Whatever he was.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I just you know, the depravity comes in where it's like, yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Jack the Ripper, he was slicing in dice in some hoes,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: but he wasn't wearing their faces around. Okay, this is
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: like some new shiit.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: What's interesting though, the the reason I think this is
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: is actually because of the aftermath, because at the time
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: when they were pulling all the stuff out of his house,
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: there was like a literal circus outside, like people were
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: scooping up dirt and selling it. Like there there was
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: a whole like economy built around the house, which is
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: why the house actually ended up, uh mysteriously burning down,
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: because the townfolk didn't want the house to be you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: some murder tour or whatever. And I kind of agree
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: with him, like if it wouldn't have burned down, it
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: would have like it would have turned into a horror
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: a museum, right, yeah, a museum.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the deal.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Once the house is gone in nineteen fifty eight, the
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: law enforcement destroyed all the other evidence as well.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So therefore, you know, he's not gonna he's in a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: loony bin, right.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Some of it actually is still in museums all over
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: the country. You can find pieces, although any of the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: body parts and you know, the nibble belt stuff like
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: that is long gone for sure.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm tracking, sir, I was I apologize.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Let me readdress my statement and actually be a segue
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: in our next next portion of this conversation. So I
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: appreciate that the evidence they had, the physical evidence against
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Guide and which basically consisted of like a receipt from.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: The hardware store.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Right right, They said, poof that went the way of
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Houdini in nineteen fifty eight, No more?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: So?
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: What was the story on that? So I guess we
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: can do his backstory here? You all tell me you
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: want to do backstory? Do you want to do evidence?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Which one? You go? Which one? Which one? First?
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Look at his mother real quick?
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, we should probably start with
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: his mom.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You man, you're the guy of Collegist, you're the expert on.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: You might as well start with his mom.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: One coming.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: Got me.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe that should be his moniker ed there you go.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: You know, I'll let b T go if he's got
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: some stuff on the mom, because I don't want to.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: I've never heard of this guy until JJ said something
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: pre show with me.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Well maybe Jacob can jump in.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he had a weird crush on his mom.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: You know, he would wear her fucking bras and stuff around.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: She was she was like the mom from Carrie. Okay,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: but like the real life version of that person.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: You know, it was a straight up Oedipus complex, like
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: through and through.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, he want
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: he loved her as uh, you know, you would love
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: your mother, but it was it went beyond that, because
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it was like she didn't want him to get married,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: she didn't want him to have sex, she didn't want
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: him to have children. It was kind of just like
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: stay with me forever kind of change.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: She literally was the the mother from Psycho. She yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: she was. She was incredibly domineering, and you know, she
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: was an incredibly religious woman that came from an abusive home.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Her father was incredibly abusive. I actually don't know too
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: much about like her upbringing, but basically she parlayed that
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: into abuse on the family, you know, because her people
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: hurt people. And Ed's father was not so much abusive necessarily,
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: although there are accounts of him abusing mainly like emotional
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: and verbally, but he was a drinker. He was a
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: hardcore drinker, and his mom resented his dad because of that.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: Eventually Ed's dad left and then so she went full
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: like feminist man hating right right, right, And then she
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: also was all about woman hating as well. Every single
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: woman is a tool of the devil, and you know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: all women are harlots and everything, and just basically created
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: a recluse that lived at home, and there was no
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: other woman that was good for Ed other than his mother.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And I have one question for you all, one question
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: on this lady. She has a real treat. Oh wait,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: but she ain't a great, big fat person. Oh wait, well,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, what's she? Agrabic frapper? She sounds like Arabic pap.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: She was a skinny, little spinster lady. She looked like
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: a fucking brown recluse, if a brown recluse could be
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a person like she was just like so venomous, looking
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: like a crushed out camel cigarette, but like as.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: A Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about weather weather face,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: like an old catcher.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yees, get it, you get exactly real sexy, right, Yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: But I mean think of it in this in this way,
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: is like whatever they had going on caused him to
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: have this weird thing where he liked to choke his
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: chicken while wearing her undergarments, and like, uh, that's gotta
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: be some sick ship, right, you know, it's like your
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: mom's bra and panties, and like, I don't That's why
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I say it has to be some kind of generational
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: satanism going on. Here because obviously the was abused, right,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: then she abuses her kids. Then she you know, ed
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Ian does his thing. I don't think he murdered anybody,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: but I do think he was into some weird sexual
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: gravity shit. I do think he was like a weird
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: fall guy, maybe a finisher guy. You know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: Bring up that tab I pulled up, JJ, it's actually
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: a picture of her. Her name is Augusta.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Ging A gust Yeah, like just the name.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Right, this woman, this woman. This was allegedly taken around
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: nineteen forty, so this would have been not too long
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: before she died. And you can just look in her eyes.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, she's got those psycho eyes.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Literally.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but which one am I supposed to be looking at?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: She looks handsome, That's all I can say.
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: A very handsome woman and.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Great, broad faced, broad shoulder looking. Sure, she has a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: great big fat woman.
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: With a linebacker. And this is a picture of what
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: it was like around his house. Uh, you know they
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: had booth set up, you know there, It was a
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: literal circus around his house. After the crimes hit hit
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: the media, and so I think the media aspect of
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: this is also another reason why we're still talking about
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: them today in twenty twenty five, you know media sensation.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I'm glad you said that's a I appreciate
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you using your brain holds, sir, there for God's intended
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: purposes and not for what many many folks do in
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: this world is an oversized paperweight, because that is That's
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Not only does this change the game
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: as far as the massacre of the scene goes, it's
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: the media circus. It's we can see it if you
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: look at all the events proceeding in after this is
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: the point in time where this media circus really the
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: inception point of this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, murder, media circus goes.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and this was the first you know, serial killer
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: or like mass murderer or whatever that really was covered
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: like this. Of course Jack the Ripper was, but that
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: wasn't international news. Ed Gean actually made international news.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: With a lot of publicity too.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Right. They mentioned they mentioned Ed Kemper in this new
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Netflix show as being inspired by ed Gan.
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: Ted, go ahead, sir, just they they mentioned everybody, they
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: have a weird like scene that's been kind of floating
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: around the social media that's kind of shows ed having
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: like this delusion or something where you know, all of
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: these serial killers, Charles Manson and uh Ted Bundy and
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: Ed Kemper and like all of these guys come out
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: to thank Ed because he's like the Godfather. And it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: supposed to be like a a delusion that Ed is
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: in or like a dream or something like that. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: it's really really strange because.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: You know, when you have somebody who is capable quote
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: unquote capable of doing these kind of things, they have
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: to give them like some kind of weird, uh, psychological disorder.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: So they were like, oh, well, you know he was schizophrenic.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: It's like, dude, there are a lot of schizophrenic people
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: out there that don't cut dead people's nipples off and
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: string and a belt.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Let's hope there's don't hope they don't all start doing that, right,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. So it is interesting how we
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: get the even as you're all point out the constant
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: references in comparisons to these other serial killers. You know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: because as Juliet mentioned earlier, I think maybe perhaps before
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: the show that Ed Gainey is even referenced in Program
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: to Kill and this whole matters of the satanic serial
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: killers come home a Phoenix program and up at mikey
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Akino and Gang and we see them every almost every
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: time you see any of these characters, references almost like
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: they're referenced in like a Marvel Universe capac either like
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: the fucking Avengers of fucking Suicide Squad or whatever you
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: want to call it, of super Team of fucking Killers, right,
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: and even in films like American Psyche, which.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: There's a lot to be said about old.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: Brett Easton Ellis I think, but the uh and Ryan Murphy,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: I believe he incorporated smiley face killer stuff in American
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Horror Story Brett Easton Ellison Face Killer film.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: So that's fucking creepy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Gord, Sir, I was just gonna say real quick.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: In the first season of American Horror Story, which is
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: aptly dubbed Murder House, I mean he references all sorts
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: of things, the Black Dahlia Columbine like, he just goes
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: on and on and mentions all sorts of yep, sure does.
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: That's one of the main characters in the first season.
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: He's a school shooter that doesn't remember that he was
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: a school shooter until later on.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: The first season of American horror story is chocked full
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: of conspiracy.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and a cult.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, and then there's another season called Cult
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and it's got all this like Trump stuff and Hillary
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Clinton stuff and it's just rank.
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: It's wild. It's wild. Ryan Murphy, I.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Had a question for you, ma'am.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton successfully traded, uh, she profited hundreds of thousands
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: of dollars in trading cattle futures, well in labor giving
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: birth to Chelsea Clinton. Were you successful in doing anything
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: about nature?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: All I can remember is my tank getting busted wide open.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: So it's just not.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Posterous that that Hillary Clinton claims have been like, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: laying in her bed giving labor, trading cattle features on
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: the Chicago Mercantyle Exchange.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, unless she got some kind of epidural that
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: just like totally cut off all the feeling from the
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: waist down. I mean, I just don't If you're in
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: active labor, the last thing you're thinking of is is
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: literally anything other than when does this stop?
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Like you ever sold these very preposterous narratives of this nature.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: And again, I look at all media and the way
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: we're in the media circuses, especially as the other JJ
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: was poring out, Watch out, sir, I see what you're
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: doing there, trying to out Jjmie here.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I'm won't having you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: But you know, I take all these things, you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: very circumspective about these narratives because once again, the well,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll get into it eventually here, but generally speaking,
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: the evidence around this whole Ganin.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Affairs seems very very suspect.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: But when we keep seeing the media and how they
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: portray him and connect them over and over again, even
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: in our fictional medias, when they when this quote from
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: American Psycho he's talking about it's an ed Kemper quote,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: but he referenced as ed gin make.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: Up for how fucking unattractive they are.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: You know what ed Gane said about women?
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: Ed Gan matre da can now born the serial killer
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: Wisconsin in the fifties, and I said, when I see.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: A pretty girl walking down the street, I think two things.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: One part of me wants to take her out and
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: talk to her, be real nice and sweet and treat
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: her right.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And what the other part of them think what her
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: head would look like on a.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Stick, Which is an actual quote you folks can see
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: from Mad Camper. Right, dude, That's.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: The thing though, is like they say, like Ed Kemper,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: who's also mentioned in Program to Kill, I talked about
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: actually in an episode recently. But it's like they they
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: apparently drew inspiration from Ed Gian. Now here's my thing.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: He's technically not even a serial killer, right because he
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: only allegedly killed two people.
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: Right, you have to kill three three, three in between
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: both right in between all of them. You have to
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: have a cooling off period.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: So Dave mc allen, and I'm sure people are sick
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: to death of me bringing this.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Up, but in Program to Kill, go ahead, man, he
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: was right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was right. And so he mentions how there
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: have been satanic cults ripping and running through Wisconsin in this.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Area and run and I forgot about that reference than Yeah, I.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Mean he talks about this, you know in Program to Kill,
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: how this area of Wisconsin is silly with satanic cult activity.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Uh you know, is it a co winn I mean.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: In that proximity right Milwaukee, you know, near Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Chicago, right,
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: name the cities, Lacrosse, that's where's from. That's a hotbed
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: of smiley face killer activity.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: Same same with Ohio, Ohio yeah, Ohio has some of
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: the Uh actually, last time I looked, has the highest
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: population of Satanists per capita out of any state in
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: the in the Union.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: So isn't that wild?
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: That's Wisconsin, but some say it's witches covens. I do
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: agree both or high high volumes per capiti, sir. So
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: that's great point. And you know what my my assertion
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: is because of the mounds. So the highest concentration of
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: adena mounds are in Ohio, and the highest concentration of
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: the effigy mounds, the animal effigy mounds are in Wisconsin.
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Fuck, it's gotta be just a coincidence.
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: This is the world the high high these mounds in
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: the entire world. And this isn't just America, this is
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: in the world. And now the largest effigy mound in
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: the world is they call it, well, the dumb dumbs
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: called serpent mound.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I assert it's sperm and egg mound. But it's a
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: bit of a it's all sex shit, and we don't
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: see a lot of sex shit with a specifically right
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: in his crimes.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: But you know, outside of this auto ginophilia business, did
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: they name that that that sendrume after him?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Autogan. They said that he happened up like a lady
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: right now, that is right. Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: They said that he had well he would for all of.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: These names after him. Is this what's happening right now?
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Am just learning all this is named after edu?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: They said that he had that ship because he would
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: like wear their titties around and stuff like that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean he had a full woman suit though too.
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: I mean it was right, yeah, I mean that it was.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: That was really weird because I mean, he's dressing up
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: as a woman after his mom's.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Gone and you know where.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: To be his mom his mom to that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Jane Wayne Gacy had the same kind of he would
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: replace his mother in the and be the wife of
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: his father.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: It was really right, nick ship is what I'm here.
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: If you want to bring up him.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Was he wearing I'm gonna need a name, folks, whose skin?
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Was he wearing his lady's skin?
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: So the skin came from some of the grapes, some
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: of the graves that he robbed.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: It was a hodgepodge of sort.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: It was just one person. I thought, maybe it's like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: one great big fat lady. Oh wait, machine a great
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: big fat person.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, just lotion on their skin though, and he was,
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: oh shit, yeah, yeah, you gotta put the lotions in
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: the skin.
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: But so like it was, it was a hodgepodge. He
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: would take one and be like, I like this one's tits,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I like this one's hands, I like this one's puss,
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: and then he would sew them all together and make
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: like a human suit out of it.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right, at least creative, at least right.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So this is this is.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: This is an excerpt from some of the initial medical
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: documents from doctor Sherbert. I believe it's how you pronounce that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Uh So this is December twelfth, nineteen fifty seven. It
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: says the patient was interviewed on this date underlined. It
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: says he again denied any knowledge about the death of
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: miss or Missus Hogan and stated that he had admitted
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: this crime because this is what the investigators wished him
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: to do, which.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Is really that's what I'm talking about, right, So.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: It was impossible to obtain a chronological series of events
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: with regard to the death of Missus Warden that the
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: first person he allegedly killed. He specifically denied remembering the
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: evisceration of the body. He stated that he had violated
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: nine graves, and when questioned as to his reasons for
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: doing this, he stated that he thought it was because
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: he wanted a remembrance of his mother, and then highlighted
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: it says he denied any sexual relations with any of
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: these bodies and gave, uh yeah, and gave as his
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: reason for this that they smelled too bad. He again
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: admitted that for a period of time after his mother's death,
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: he felt that he could arouse the dead by an
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: act of will power. He claimed to have tied or
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: tried to arouse his dead mother by an act of
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: will power and was disappointed when he was unsuccessful. He
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: also admitted that he had attempted this, uh, this sort
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: of thing with and it just goes on right right right, which.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: They that's the satanic cult ship that I think his
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: mother was a part of that where he was a
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: part of. Where did he learn this ship from?
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: If it wasn't he learned from give me a name, right, Well,
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: that's a great point. Now again there's a seems to
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: be a larger situation going on here with his background
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: his mother then, right, yes, So in.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: The Netflix show there's a character, her name is Adeline
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: they kind of conflated who this woman is in his life.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: They said, you know that they were in a romantic relationship,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: that they were engaged.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: At some right, what was that for twenty like they
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: were saying, like for decades?
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: I went back twenty years.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: Initially, initially, what a media circus? Right, Like, what a
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: media circuits? You send this I'm girl out? She because
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: she did a report in the Minneapolis paper like Contemporary
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: to of the events. So that's a that's a distraction
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: of anything, Like does she even know this guy? Like
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: do they even know each other?
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: So it's it's interesting. And the very first interview she did,
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: she said, you know, years and years and years, right,
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: I can't remember the exact amount of years. But and
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: then ever since the very first interview she did, every
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: interview after that she said six months.
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: That was it?
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: So one interview years right? And then she's part of
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: the cult.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Dude, she is definitely part of the fucking cult.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: I like your brain holds that, man, I like, we're
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: going with this.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Why would she tell the truth in the first interview?
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, thank you, Ryan, Why you know,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: go from twenty years to six months, that's quite a
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: fucking link there in a discrepancy of time spent with
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: someone you know, he.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Guessing and so.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Jacob you probably know this. But they did beat literally
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: a confession out of him. Yes, and then the next
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: day that lead investigator who was knocking his block off
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: trying to get this confession, he uh, randomly dies of
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: a heart attack.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Right now, it's it's a mere coincidence, yeah.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: Right, exactly, yeah, because it's it's always when.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: In the back of the head hanging from a tree
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: with a gun like apart two, like it was one
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: of those situations.
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: Right, tie yourself to a tree and shoot yourself with
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: a shotgun, you know, yeah, total coincidence.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Is the Harry of suicide guys, right.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he he basically knocks you know Ed's block off
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: trying to get this confession out of him. Then he
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: mysteriously dies of a heart attack the next.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: Day, right, you know, he beat that hell out of him?
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: It's like, why is his girlfriend saying we spent twenty
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: years together? Just kidding, it was more like six months.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: In the show, it actually depicts her kind of like
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: guiding him towards necromancy and like some weird necrophilia stuff.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Whether or not that part is true, we'll never know.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: But imagine how bad a dead, fucking, rotted, fucking nasty
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: aspuss has to smell for this guy, the guy?
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: How about that be that could have been any better?
• 50:01
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Look at this plain field woman nearly wedded.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, is that what you?
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: I'm getting bombarded with the ads? Fuck you, Jeff Beza.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think he has anything to do with it,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: but he might. Who knows one of the two responsible
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: for everything?
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: See, I got you he was after a handsome woman
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: like his mom.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Look at me. Let's be honest about the situation. Is
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: that a lady? Dude? What am I looking at here?
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: See, here's a here's a little bit better of a
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: photograph if you want to pull that out.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this isn't the great images. It comes in a
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: little Uh. I don't know who scanned this, but I
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: think they did. Ah, I don't know what's going on here.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: It looks a little fuzzy, doesn't it.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: A little bit looks looks like somebody you find it
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: very much like?
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know what I'm looking at, dude? Is
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that a real person? Is this a real person hasn't
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: even met her.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much of this is totally fictitious.
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, right, dude, right, well.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Because they spend this whole narrative. I mean, I'm not
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: trying to defend it. A guy and here's a screepy
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: some a bit. He's obviously there's some weird shit, but
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying he never had a chance to defend himself. Finally,
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: the appeals, he's in the looney bind. They burn all
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: the evidence. I'm just saying, I often concerned my matters
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: with my life, and concerned way to say, let me wine.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: Holy smokes, you know, I feel like I might still
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: be lost in I feel like I've been lost him
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: up in the world all week.
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: Hold on, folks, So, so, how how are all of
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: those little wave ripples? How are those so perfectly matching
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: what's in the video?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: All the dons, all the spercial patterns look the same.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: This is like saying that my butthole is your butthole
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: because they're similar, right, It's not being we don't have
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: the same butthole.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Because of that, you're using butthole a lot of context.
• 51:52
  Speaker 10: You're talking about buttholes making everyone feel weird.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: That's the point. He's that termed buttholes, making folks off
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: feel all weird.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: Here, Julia, I said it any better.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: I was saying, I have to consider myself with matters
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: of liberty, just like these two gents to And I'm
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: not unlike yourself, ma'am. As far as getting to the facts,
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: there is no getting the facts are just like ed
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: guyin did it? We found all the ship in his house,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Lock him up, throw away the key and burn it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, how about this. I have this in my
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: notes that and I wanted to talk to you guys
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: about it. Wisconsin, right, satanic colts ripping and running through
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: this area. Let's look at some similarities between Jeffrey Dahmer
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and Okay.
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: Somehow quick right before we do that. This is something
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: I think you all will find very interesting JJ, if
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: you want to do. Oh yeah, I see that Ed
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: Gan buried at three am. What are the fucking odds
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: of bay?
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: Which is our man?
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: Right? Exactly?
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: He died at seventy seven as well.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, maybe he's a Matchbox twenty fan from the nineties.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, who I've been I've been doing de cuss in
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: the nineties of my son, I've been torturing with dad
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: jokes like that.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I do apologize. Go ahead, go ahead, We're.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Talking about satanic coltire right, buried at three am. He
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: was seventy seven years old, like Aleister Crowley seventy seven
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: shit right, he spent twenty seven years in the mental hospital. Yes,
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: are these numbers not totally sticking out to you as
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: sus as fuck?
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, all of them, all of all
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: of them.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: If I may be honest, there really is no difference
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: between this man of fens and folks, which is covens
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: and satanic colts.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: This is the same.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: These are terms used by the Satanists, and this former
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Satanist can can correct me if I'm in correct here.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: But based upon the statements of one muppet, mikey Akino
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: and his a dribble, it's just I've read so many.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Of his book it's absolute dribble.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: This guy just sat in the room smelling his own farts,
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: probably using a typewriter because he's just as crusty old
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: some a bit write in these books. But what I'm
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: and in loving every mite of those parts. He's like, oh,
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: that's a good one, you know.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Just I'm just I try to put I don't imagine
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: how he even wrote this. This is bullshit.
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: But they're always saying there's no difference between covens and witches.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: And you know Lilith his wife was doing covens and
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: he was doing you know, Grotto's.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: And they're all the same ship.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Right, So we see all this, we see all this
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: ship in Wisconsin where they want to you know, there's
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: probably something well we're standing colt or, which is go
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: fuck yourselves. So there's probably a lot of this activity
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: going on in Wisconsin, you know what.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, go fuck yourself? Yeah, no kidding, I mean
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: so is the years.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Though, right, it's probably just so intrenched.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: I apologize, man, I just got want to finish my
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: point real quick where I got lost it again. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: like so you're speaking Dahmer, right, So we see these
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: in the fifties, right, Dahmers, and in the seventies and eighties.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying this has been going on with all
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: these cults in Wisconsin for so many years around these
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: fucking mounds, then it's probably so entrenched.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: In the hierarchy of authoritative structures there right.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Well, sure, I mean I think our nation was founded
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: by satanic cults.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I mean that's nation we're talking about, Canada.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about, JJ, You know what
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Well, we were founded by an ancient alien cargo cult.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am. They do, in fact haunt the moon's pale beams.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: I've heard that in the song Somewhere.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: That's a good song.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: So as a former Satanist there, Jacob J.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: You know, is there a great delineation between witches, covens
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: satanic activity or is this commonly dispute as folks kind
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: of just bounced between the two, and they're often referred
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: to as the same.
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: I mean you kind of hit the nail on the
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: head there. They do kind of float in between each other.
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: Of course, if you would talk to any of them,
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: they would say, hey, whoa, whoa, No, there there is
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: no connection. Uh you know, we're just peaceful wickens. And
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: it's like, well, we don't even know each other, right,
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: you know, ignore the fact that the person that you
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: know invented the modern wickan uh you know, was a
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: student of Aleister Crowley. Just steamroll over that. But right, right,
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: and so yeah, I mean that the New Age movement
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: is very clearly you know, uh, thelemic very clearly. So yeah,
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: I mean they they do kind of float in in
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: and out of the circles. This is, you know, to
• 56:46
  Speaker 7: tie it back to the West Memphis three. This is
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: why Damien Eccles kind of floats and said that he
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: was wicking instead of saying he was a saintan.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, sir, there you go. And his
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: girlfriend was a vampire, right, and we're all fun we
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: all have in a fantasy world. Well, you know, be
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: what you want to be whatever.
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: Right, right, So I mean it is kind of yeah, right.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: Typically the were wolves are more intergrained with the Nazism.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: You ain't kidding, sir. And that was Michael's precise purpose
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: behind that, right. The werewolf units stay behind Nazi Operation
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Gladio Fuckers.
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: Nicholas Nicholas Shrek you know runs Radio Werewolf you know.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: There you another one, right, and uh, Xena Levey she's
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: also involved in all of that. Yes, yes, that one right. Which,
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: by the way, when the first time I saw that,
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: holy hell is that spooky? Like wow?
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: I mean I often play a game he was your daddy,
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: what does he do. But he was her mommy, and
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: what does she do?
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: Because it's also I'm I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift as
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: a man, it.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Was it was his mom I mean, what does she
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: do then about that?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: That's not the first time I've heard that. Actually, that's
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: that's pretty crazy, And I just wanted to say. Somebody
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: in the comment section said John Wilkes Booth was a
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: part of that cult with Ben Franklin and a Keno. Uh.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I just talked to a guest literally yesterday about John
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: Wilkes Booth and how he faked his fucking death and
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: like ran away somewhere and all that. I mean, it's
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: it's crazy the connections.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: That makes sense. But what cold he referenced in here?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Are they?
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Is this a time traveling colt because he's been lived
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: far apart from one another time was?
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't even know. I just saw that comment
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: and I talked to a guest yesterday.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: I was talking about I'm catching up man now I
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: see the comment.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right here a cult with Been Franklin and a Keno.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Uncle Ted, I'm interested. I'm not sure the reference
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: is this?
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Is there a Burger element to all this is? Ever?
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Telling me, well another comments in there.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Where I get is any further off topic regarding these manners.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: So it seems that perhaps ed Guin might have been
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: born into this situation.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Was his mother's.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: In her col text, he was involved in the sort
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: of drug sex or rock and roll in this prethlemic
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: kind of era of Satanism. I don't know, because she
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: was in the prepublic era of at least right pre
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: nineteen fifty six.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: She she made herself look like she was such a
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: what do they call it, like a devout? Uh?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Everyone all women are Harlot's and all men are.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: This disagree with that, I mean no disrespect to present company,
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: but I don't necessarily agree with every point.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of mat.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: She Uh, guy's mom was onto something. She may have
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: been an extremist viewpoint, but she was onto something.
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: Almost like she saw into the future and saw you know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: the average.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, but I did want to mention really quick
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: before I forget there. There's a chapter in Program to Kill.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: It's chapter sixteen. It's called the Collectors.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: So these are these are the people who are mentioned, right,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Leonard Lake, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Ridella, Gary Heidnik, Jeffrey Dahmer,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: herb Boomeister, which is a really if anybody's ever looked
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: into that guy, it's fucking weird. And then.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Uh, the Godfather being Ed Gian there, I'm bringing it
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: up right now, man, how about the uh you you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: you mentioned. I don't disagree about Baumeister, He's very interesting,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: But how about ship you just said his name? To
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: say a name again, give me a name, Jeffrey Dahmer. No,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: that wasn't it, Bob Bardello. That's a very interesting case
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: that ever laps with that BTK situation.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: We'll see they run in networks, right, and they are
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: all part of the cults. Well look at this shit, right,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Let's let's look at the similarities between Dahmer and Gian,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: who are both based out of Wisconsin. Taxidermy okay, collecting
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: of body parts, using the body parts as household items, cannibalism, necrophilia,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: not admitting to all the victims. Jeffrey Dahmer also he
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: went down for like I think thirteen but only ever
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: admitted to eleven. They're both out of Wisconsin. But the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: thing is, it's like, how many how many times are
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: you going to run across two guys who are perpetrating
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: almost identical fucking shit like this taxidermy using the body
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: parts as weird household items. Jeffrey Dahmer admitted to being
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: into Satanism. They're both into necrophilia, and at some point
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: both ed Gian and Jeffrey Dahmer offered their neighbors human
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: meat as sandwich.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Served up at home. Yeah, lid you, ma'am.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: You often come here with a lot of details, and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: I do guarantee, folks, this will be a born burner,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: I do. You're blowing up my brain hole, maam. So uh,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: these matters you're describing is what I like to call
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: the greatest common denominator. That's how I look at these
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: kind of situations. And yeah, yeah, and that's how that's
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: why I've been describing my my satan Thursday shows of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: unpacking these things chronologically speaking, you know, temporially speaking, time wise,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: and I've been mapping the shit out and you see
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: these pockets Fall River, Massachusetts, Bridgewater Triangle. They can go
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: fuck themselves up in that region. I hope they got
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: locked up Buffalo. You, I have no one knows where Buffalo,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: Jared is. Right now, I'm just saying, yeah, I'm not.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Maybe folks are safe. Maybe I'm the only one who
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: needs to stay vigilant on those matters.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: I'll stay vigilant.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: YEA, he is a He's a hypnotic trans apocalypse mind
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: controlled multi state assassin.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: Well you noticed wanted to be my pr rep.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: These people for some you know, God only knows how
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: they're able to do this. But these people travel, you know,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 7: they get.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: The the the zizzy and death cults. They're traveling fucking carnife.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: But stay about them. That death cult is still on.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: The loose, that uh Silicon Valley based AI focused uh rationalists,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: trans apocalypse vegan death cult, they're on the loose.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: They're processing to by.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: The way, irrational Stay vigilant for those folks, but also
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: stay vigilant for lasers.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 9: There's thousands of Americans out there. By the way, I've
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: been shot with a laser beating.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Twice, folks.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: Folks, they got ted twice. Stay vigilant, so the go ahead,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: go ahead. It looks like you got some mind.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: Other than the laser b hole. I mean, we talked
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: about this with Scott Peterson, right how they framed the husband.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: But the white and then they killed the wife. Right,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: But they were probably both involved in the same cult. Right,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: That's what we were talked about before. So like it's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: the same thing here. So ed Gian would go to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: his neighbor's house and be like, I shot this deer
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: and I have too much meat and I just thought
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: you could you know, you might want some. And Jeffrey
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Dahmer is like knocking on his neighbors at the apartments,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: like I got this delicious pull pork sandwich for you. Like, yeah,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: it's like they have to offer it to other people
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: to like induct them into some kind of weird ritualism
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: where they're like consuming human flesh like the Book of
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: Eli think of it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 7: I think what it is is it's like some sort
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: of like a almost like a Bingo card square, you know,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: because they're in all of these cults, and so it's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: kind of a joke amongst these six fucks where they're like, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: well I got my neighbor to eat you know.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: In the case of Jeffrey.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: Dahmer, right, it's the they invert everything. It's the inversion.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: It's the degradation math yea aspects of everything. Right, So
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: and they can deceive folks in the process. That that's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: the fucking trifective form right there.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Well think about this though, right, So it's like Edgie
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: and is like this this gumpy like everybody loves him
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: and he's like, you know, a sweetheart supposedly, but he's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: like kind of simple minded, like where where is he
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: actually getting these ideas to do this stuff? And then
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: like several years later, Jeffrey Dahmer, in the same state
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: is perpetrating almost identical type shit like where are they
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: getting these ideas of the shower?
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 7: And let's not forget Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: attended the same bar in Chicago many many a times.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: Well, it's also weird too, right, Like the day Jeffrey
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Dahmer is supposedly saved and baptized is the day John
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: Wayne Gacy gets executed. Like there's all these weird it's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: it's it's part of the ritualism, in my opinion, how
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: they do things. And oh, by the way, it just
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: so happened to be some weird solstice when Jeffrey Dahmer
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: got baptized and John Wayne Gacy got executed on such
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: and such solstice coincidence, right, total coincidence. But they I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: also think that John Wayne Gacy, and this is my
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: opinion obviously, and I could be totally wrong, but John
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: Wayne Gacy could have also been kind of like a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: finisher guy. He liked to do stuff with the dead bodies.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: But I don't know if he necessarily killed all those
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: people that, all those boys that weren't.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 7: I don't think he did at all. And personally, I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: think he was more involved in the uh, the snuff aspect,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: right than anything, because the Stag film was so much
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: a part of his story and so right, and so
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: I don't think that he was necessarily this grand serial
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: killer per se. I'm sure he killed people that that
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: I'm sure of, but I don't I don't. I don't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: think that that was his thing. I think it was
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: the snuff thing. He got these boys in there, uh
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: and probably got them hooked up through Philip Pasky, as
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: my guest, because that's that's the tie to uh John
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: David Norman, and that that's what John David Norman was
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: all about, right, And he ran the Odyssey Foundation and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: all all of these other organizations from jail. Mind you,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 7: he's able to do it while in jail, and so yeah,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 7: they didn't.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Normal normal prison can do those things. That's fine, right, He.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: The the when the first pedo Island guy. Uh so
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: so so it was.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: It wasn't John John David Norman, but John David Norman
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: actually had ties to Frances Sheldon who ran North Fox
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: Island in Michigan, and that that was like you know
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 7: that era's Epstein. He was the one that ran the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: ran the snuff films out of Michigan. That was tied
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 7: to uh oh it was another serial killer. Uh some
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: some county up in Michigan. There was a bunch of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: child killings in the eighties and that.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: That was all tied down child killers.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, same thing.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: In California, sir, You aren't corrected, Michigan.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: Right, So, so yeah, it is. It's tied to all
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: of these And it's just so interesting that you have
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 7: all of this, you know, child sex trafficking because even
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 7: though they're teenagers, their children they're babies, right, you have
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 7: all this child sex trafficking and at the same time
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 7: these serial killers just pop up in the same circles.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: Like that's not of coincidence.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm see Jacob is a man after my
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: own heart, because I look into all of this stuff
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: and it blows my mind how it's it's kept from
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: the public, and it's portrayed in serial killer documentaries like
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: it's one way, when really it's a huge network that
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: connects all these fuckers. And I think my opinion that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: Ryan Murphy has either read Program to Kill or he
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: fucking knows about it, because he's putting a lot of
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: pieces together. He's been putting pieces together since American horror
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: stories rely.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Just bragging shit, right are these bragging a by their friends?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: Because look who writes the book about all these matters
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: of psycho, who starts introducing these concepts of guying into
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: fiction for the first time, And he's friends oh alone,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: behold with the fuck.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's in occultist, but he's friends
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of occultists. I'll tell you that much.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: That HP Lovecraft too, right.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: Well, he's also he's also friends with Forrest j Ackerman.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: Forest Jackman was OG member of the Agape Lodge with
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: Jack Parsons and el Ron Hubber. He was the OG
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: member of Scientology with his buddy l Ron and Lo
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: and behold, he was an og member.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Of the Church of Satan, probably in the process. Fu. Yeah, dude,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: he's an assure you.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: So he has some sort of ties to intelligence, then,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 7: I'm sure right somewhere, some somewhere along the line, maybe
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: even just for one time, for sure intelligence somewhere.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: Well, all those fellows are dude, right, you know, all
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: those sci fi writers. So for re, Ackerman was like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: the godfather. He's the guy who coined the term science fiction.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: He's the guy, he's the editor and agent for all
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: of these guys. He's also the guy who's in the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: first Superman comic because Superman Ship is, in my opinion,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: thelemicfan fiction.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: And on that note, before you go, mister B. T. Wallace,
• 1:10:48
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• 1:10:50
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• 1:10:51
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• 1:11:01
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  Speaker 5: favorite game, Who is your daddy?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: And what does he do?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: And what? And what did he do?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: Who the fuck was that?
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: That's that's the Lord and Savior Jared Leeder.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: You look, Letto, who was the person at the end?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Oh you saw that creepy song? Bitch? That's a drummer
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: from thirty seconds to mars. That's his brother.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, I didn't know the old the old.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Guy at the ends allegedly his father.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not buying it, man, Oh you're not buying well,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: I'm buying it.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Man. It looks nothing like the guy. Let me bring
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: my picture for you in a non format.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Let me see it again. I gotta figure this is.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Do you see? I mean?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: I could see his mother in him, right, I can
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: see a lot of letters mother in him here. Now,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: don't get confused. Don't give confused. He's a Bryant by
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: biological name surnames Lettos is adopted stepfather. He dies a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: very mysterious that himself.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Though, who is this now, Constance metri Jon that's his mother.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: I can see Jared. Yeah, it looks a lot. Come on,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: that looks like Jared Letto with a.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: Wig, right right, Io, what is.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Going on here? I don't see any of this dudes
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: to be his dad?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, no, to come on, this.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Is adopted dad. That's his adopted dad. They do you
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: recognize that is indeed his adopted David. This is supposed to.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Be from Star Trek.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Fact is that even a real guy?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this is Carletto.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: He's he's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: He's got a lot of Laurel Canyon connections, ma'am. He
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: also loves to play Marvel and d C characters and.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Joker.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: The fact that he did he's got He's got a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 5: couple more miss he did Fight Club for for example.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: There's another one. He got five roles.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: Maybe not, it's all DC Marvel, He's got five roles.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 5: He's like, he's a very suspect character.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: Right well. The fact that he's also like a highly
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: successful musician and actor you know, is wild. Most people
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: can't do both, you know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: And he's having hangouts somewhere in the Laurel Canyon Lookout.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Mountain Lookout Mountain. No.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 7: No, he sold it a couple of years ago, but
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 7: he bought it when it was so. He bought it
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: from whoever was running it as a rehab center, and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 7: then he turned it into a house.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 7: I actually watched an interview with some woman who used
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: to clean it, and she said that there were parts
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: of the house where they weren't allowed to go trade to.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: Do film studio stuff too, is what I heard.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: What in the same he suspects going on here? Ma'am?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah? And what's with the weird triangle on this kid?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: Sure, I'm glad you asked me and I got that
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: up for here right now. Hold on, boom, that's the
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: official Jared Letto logo.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: You didn't know that? Come on now?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: Is he gonna change his name to the artist formerly
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: known as Logo?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: Hey, I dude, if you want to talk about folks
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: who wear other folks skin as a human coat, I mean,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: Jared let is the top my list.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: I would I.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Would definitely put him up there, but I'm gonna just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: tell you right now, I thought it was sus that
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: he was even in Girl Interrupted, because that movie is
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: all about m K. It's got Winona Ryder, it's got
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Angelina Jolie, it's got all this Wizard of Oz symbolism
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: in it, and who the fuck pops up? And Jared Leto. Oh,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: and it's got Britney Murphy too.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it's like, yeah, who would have thought the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Second Coming already occurred? I mean, look at it.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they always have to tell us what the are doing.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Huh, exactly, the method exactly. He's like a Johnny Depp
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: though he's like a pretty guy, you know, he they
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: and they put him out there is like, oh, look
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: at Jared Leto. He's like this, uh yeah, you know,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: super nice.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: Guys like Depp was way back in the nineties and stuff.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: You're right, except he's an actual successful musician.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Smirched my spiritual guru, Jared Leto.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: Here, Hey, I'm not even judging. I'm not even judging.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: So I actually met.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: Seriously, though, he seems like a major figure in some
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: sort of modern day Hollywood o cultism. Right, and again, yes,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: you know, the way I look at it is these
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: these cultu these cult muppets, these Hollywood cult muppets, they
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: do like little cult pockets across America. For example, his
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: not necessarily his associate, but another fellow assumed Thela Mite
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: who plays a lot of you know, at least played
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: the Flash in a lot of DC films more than
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: more than once played the same character at least, right,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 5: And that is Ezra Miller in that dude.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Literally starting.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: I saw about that guy.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: I saw some some commentary from some from Montian's. That's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: not a real thing, a fellow, Uh you know Green Mountaineer,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: if you will. I'm not even I think I made
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: that up. But there was someone from Bennington, Vermont there
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: in the chat earlier, and uh, that's where Ezra Miller's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: cult is down there by Bennington Vermont.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: He was also in uh uh, they did like some
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: kind of weird spin off of Harry Potter. It's called
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: Gary car or something. Fantastic Beasts. That's right. Yeah, was
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: in that too. So he's always popping up in like
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: some Weirdestcaultism type ship.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: Uh, why am I just blanking on his? Jared Letto
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: he was actually a regular at as Alon or yeah,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: or whatever. Yeah, that's yeah. Salon. Uh you know, uh,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 7: what the hell is that highway the one on one
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: or whatever, like all the way up at the top California. Yeah,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: he was a regular up there for a drive.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: It's a beautiful drive you ever get a chance to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: take it. I've only ever made it from San Diego
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: to the border of Oregon. They won't let me into
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: that state. Maybe maybe, maybe you all can take care
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: of that. Formula Beat and Julia I always get deserved.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: I landed in Eureka, California, and I dare I say
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: Eureka I discovered the Great White or Great White Beer.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: No, that's not the name of it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: I discovered some beer at a local brewery there that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: changed my life for that weekend at least, and also
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: prevent me from getting Oregon.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: But is a beautiful drive.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: You found a beer?
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: No, it's the Lost Coast Brewing Company in Eureka, California.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: It's the Great Great White. It's like a Belgian ale.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: I'd have a drinking years, but I discovered at that time.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: I try to make it to Oregon instead, go to
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: the road brewery.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: It's some good stuff.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I appreciate it's a fantastic I highly recommend it.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 5: You know, it's a it's a beautiful stretch of stretch
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: of America. Dare I say California has some beautiful stretches
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: of America. I love California and it's not some people.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: It's a great state. Terrible politics.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: I was actually getting to say, a mini a serial
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: killer would agree with you, JJ. I mean there's been
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: bodies dumped up and down the coast.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: For speaking of dumping things.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: The last few times I've been in California, all I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 5: have to do is step over human turds everywhere on
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: the sidewalks.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't like California. San Francisco.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles too, dude.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: In December of twenty seventeen, myself and my dude, Kevin
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: and his his son, Little Kevin, Kevin the little human,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: that's what we call him. Uh My dude, Kevin named
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: all of his kids Kevin, including his daughter. And it's weird, dude,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: it's real weird. I don't judge Kevin a little human.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: We were all driving through Los Angeles. We're in there
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: for a wedding in town, and there was a home
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: we had to intervene a home. A naked, naked, homeless
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: man was literally assaulting a I don't they must have
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: been in from Kansas.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know. These folks look lost.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: A young couple with two young children and he's he's
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: running down the street on naked and home was this
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 5: is we were. We had initially stopped because he was
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: shitting on the sidewalk before the onslaught of assault on
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: this young this young family we had intervened upon. We
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: just yelled, get away from your hobo, and he just,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: you know, took off. He was just their hoboes. You know,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: it doesn't take much to turn them usually. But anyhow,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: that's Los Angeles for you. I saw a hobo ship
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: on the street in West West Hollywood, then nearly assault
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: a young family that had been fun to watch, right.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, this isn't a California story, but this
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: one time I went with my family to Dallas to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: go to the jfk assassination. Whatever the fill, that's.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: The new California. That's the new Dallas in Austin or
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: the new California.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: There's like a little place over there where you can
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: go to some museum and it's got like all this
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: JFK stuff and you can like go see like the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: road and the Grassy.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Knoll and all that fascination museum. Right.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so white hole in the nose for her name right,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: the sixth floor. It's literally on the sixth floor, Yes, sixth.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Floor, right, get muppets.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't think this of Dallas. Uh, but you know,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: we were just walking my family and there was a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: homeless guy and he was just like begging for spare
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: change or whatever the fuck he was begging for, and uh,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: my sister in law like went to go reaching her purse.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: She was actually going to give this asshole some like
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: money or something, and he spit on her.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: And I was like, see that's you don't want to
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: They're not a savory bunch man. You don't want to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: get here. You want to say, was about ten to
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: twelve feet away from these.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Type of characters. It's cenerally fairrible. At least didn't he
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: not just.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, shittings spitting whatever. She was gonna buy
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: the guy fucking you know, six inch subway sub and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: he just spit right in her face.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: So that's what it was.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she offered a water burger. Maybe there'd have been,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: you know, just an outcome.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: I don't even like.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't go near the type. But I
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: treat them all like wild animals people. I'm not trying
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: to be dehumanized, and I'm just saying, look, let's be
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: honest about it. You're bound to get stabbed. I try
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: to remove myself from any environment that I'm bound to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: get stabbed, and that's very much an environment.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: Or ship or spit on.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. I'm wanted you that either
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: be quite honest with you. Don't need that in my life.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: I do want to say, though, because I think I'm
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: gonna have to go myself here in a minute. But
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: the whole uh sensationalism behind serial killers, I do have
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: to say it made It's made people fear everything, right,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: not just homeless people. It's made people lock their doors
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: at night.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: I see there was.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: It's it's you know, it's really scary too.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: Because sorry, maybe ma'am, that's an excellent point you just make,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: because you know, oftentimes we often describe things.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: As you know, you two are just as guilty as
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: this is himself.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: And broader terms of saying like Operation Gladio in our
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: conspiracy culture podcast.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Hosting, and you know, I've actually had folks ask me, like,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: you know, can you get this.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: Not they're not saying we don't, they don't understand it,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: They're just like, can you get to some of the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: finer details.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Help folks understand these concepts more. But that is that's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: the concept right there. You nailed it, the impact of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: changing altering the way they live, right yeah.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: It's it's total fear and domination. Because there was even
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: a serial killer. He was called the Vampire of Sacramento.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: His name is Richard Well, you know, he was a
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: sick fuck and he would, you know, practice blood drinking.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: He was definitely mentioned in Program to Kill. You know,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: he would uh do all this ritualistic stuff.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 7: But the organs and drink it smooth.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Oh fuck.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: It was disgusting. But the way that he chose his
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: victims is he would try all the doors, and whoever
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: didn't lock their door that night, that was the invitation
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: to get murdered.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: I guess yep.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: So it's like go ahead.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: I mean it just has instilled fear into the hearts
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: and the minds of the general public. And I think
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: that's part of what the serial killer program is meant
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: It's like that was the whole point.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: YEA, to quote our nation's finest law enforcement organization, the
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: Federal Bureau of on Investigations, those fucking muppets. The former
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: assistant director, Thomas Flints said, when he's making a budget
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: for a law enforcement and intelligence agency, which was literally
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: his job in two thousand and four.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: When he made this statement, it's on YouTube. I'll find
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: it in a second if you need to see it.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I sent it.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: But he said when making a budget, he said he's
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: not going to tell folks he slved crime and solved terrorism.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: And what he says his mantra or his uh, you
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: know philosophy is keep for alive, keep it alive.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: That's the point. That's the point, even even with this
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: right like Edgie and snown As like the godfather of
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: the serial killers, but he's not actually a serial killer one, right,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: and we don't know that he even killed anybody. There
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: you go, and it's like these networks are working in
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: tandem to a make you scared somebody's gonna come get
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: your kids. B maybe they're just gonna fucking cut your
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: puss off and wear it around the house and their mom's.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Underwear, maybe yours can be victimized.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Well, the beetle is definitely on the table.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: That's that's the whole point behind mine.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: It was literally on ed Guine's table.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: Wasn't that It sure was, It sure was. But yeah,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: that's that's the whole point behind mind control is fear.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: That's that's the easiest way for them to control the masses,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: which is why now we see, you know, the rise
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: in the school shooter and terrorism, uh specifically homegrown terrorism,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 7: which is being you know continually, yes, sir, and it's
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 7: being carried over from you know, all of the militia
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 7: fear in the nineties, you know, and anything to keep
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: us in that perpetual state of fight or flight is
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 7: the best way to control the masses because then we're
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 7: more suggestible. And also when when they do these things,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 7: like the way they report them is they show the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 7: terrible things and because that that actually traumatizes us, so
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 7: we all get trauma bonded together, like this most recent
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: thing with Charlie Kirk. You know, yes, the the algorithm
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: was allowed to let that video go wild, so everyone
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: was traumatized and that was done in a way so
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 7: we would turn around, we would be fearful, we'd be traumatized,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 7: and then the masses would be more open to you know,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: our saviors, the politicians that would come in and fix it,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 7: or the FBI or whatever we got because they got.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that they don't got to say this
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: from the tyrney.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, The federal basketball investigators are not
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 7: going to do jack shit to save us sick.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Well, and think about this too, right, Think about being
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: alive in the nineteen fifties and seeing the crime scene
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: photos that they pulled from Ed's house. Right, it's the
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: nineteen fifties. You go to sleep with your door unlocked,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: You have a milkshake down at the fucking Back to
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: the Future cafe. You know, this is how I think
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: of the nineteen fifties, right, right. But it's like he
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: had human face masks, he had human body suits, he
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: had bowls in silverware made of skeletons. I'm mean this,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, how do you think? Did you?
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  Speaker 2: Here's my question? Man, these are all excellent points.
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  Speaker 10: With may.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: I'll go I apologize, Go ahead, I was cutting out there,
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, finish finish.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: Please go ahead, go ahead. That I mean, that's pretty
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: much all I was going to say about that is
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: like the reaction of the public. It had to be crazy.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: Oh again, it was a fucking circus. That's a great point.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: And again I think this is we see the evolutions
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: of these matters. The circus is starting there and how
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: they evolve. But how many other people have human face masks?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: He ain't the only one, you know. I mean, we're
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: told about him. Everyone focused on him. He's all him,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: and no one asked the question, well, who the fuck
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: who else got these face masks? We're else doing this ship.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: So you know, I don't want to go to you
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: for can you know what that thought for me?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Sir? I don't want to go too for off topic,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: and I do want to. I want to.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: I want to respond to Julia's tail about this uh
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 5: fucking muppet museum in Dallas.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: But uh, I'll go ahead, sir. Is your statement further?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: Just real quick before we move off of this. So
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 7: this this is something I recently I wrote. I think
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 7: I said it to you, Jju, a piece I wrote
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 7: about the mind control being used in the Charlie Kirk
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 7: assassination stuff, and it's it's all about, uh, how the
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk assassination video was pushed to traumatize the public
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: for trauma based mind control and so that the wide,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: the widespread dissemination of the graphic assassination video via social
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 7: media algorithms fit into a deliberate strategy of trauma based
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: mind control. Uh T B m C.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Can we can we table that?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: Because I think ju is gonna have to pop smoke
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: and then you're going to be resolving your matters here
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: this sevenon, we'll be closing down on that. Can we
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: go over that here in a moment, We'll give Julius
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: some closing thoughts and then we'll go over that if
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: you don't.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 7: Mind, yes, sir?
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: Uh well, thank you guys.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Hold I thought, Julia, because before you do that, we.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Had a big day out there.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Think we've got a full moon.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: People are gonna be amped. All right, let's say we
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: got on hot tips, all right?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Whoa the new bathmats. One more thing, we've got a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: serial rapist and Crown Heights. Oh jesu, sorry, that's from
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: my other job. Forget that. Well, don't ignore it. If
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: you live in Crown Heights.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: You know, way to end it, That is the perfect
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: way to that.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Rapists and Crown Heights.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he's coming after.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: I appreciate your be all comments. It's always good times
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: here in your nicknames. Appreciate you coming back here join
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  Speaker 5: us A gil GCD here I do uh when I
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: would you believe or not? I had someone myself upon
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: this assassination museum you described, it's m up at museum
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: in Dallas on December fourteenth, twenty twelve. That that data
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: sounds from there, that is the date of Sandy Hook business.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: I would already plan on going there that afternoon after
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: some meetings that morning, and barks to the Air Force
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: base at the uh the fake nuclear missile headquarters there,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: and it's a real headquarters, but the nuclear missiles were fake.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Uh and uh.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: I'm sitting there that morning watching that old event's unfold
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: and then I find myself in a different false flag
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: kind of operations there if you will, that afternoon and
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 5: I'm staying on the corner and this fella says, hey,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: do you want a tour of Dealey Plaza? And I'm like,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess, who are you?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: Weird hobo? Guy looking guy, and he says, because there's
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: no one there's it's creepy.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: There's literally no one on the streets in the area
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: of town at like five o'clock in the evening because
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: the museum closes at six, and there's there's no one around.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: And there's suddenly this dude on the street next to me.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm all right, dude, let's take it down. And you
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: What do you want because you look like a hobo guy.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: I don't want to get spit on, like your like
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: your friend there. Yeah, I mean you watch out and uh.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: He he's like, oh, I'm a security guard at the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: Muppet Museum.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, that's cool.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: He's like, I'm dropping off a Christmas gift to my
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: buddy was going on vacation. There's coworking all right on.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: He's like, I used to give tours of Daily Plaza.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: He's like, I was seven years old. I was standing
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: right here when when it occurred to I'm like, going,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: fox sake, let's do this, budd So I'll wait for
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: you to go drop off that gift. And he went
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: and he gave me a full tour of the whole place,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: and it was a it was an interesting experience, so
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: I learned a lot more about it than I than
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: I previously had known that day, and from a dude
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: he was there.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I still say shots came from the front.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: So whatever they got to say about the you know,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: shots from the front is all I have to say
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: about that. Whether they can give you a tour of
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: the window and.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, Charlie Kirk back into the left.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: Right, But yeah, I got I got mom duty calling me.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: I do appreciate you guys having me. I really appreciate it.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: I hope I was able to, you know, make it
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: worth your while.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: I do think that real barn burner, real barn burner.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this stuff popping up in pop culture
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: with these new shows, I think it's definitely worth talking
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: about because it's not as it appears to be.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they keep trying to reshape the narrative, right,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: reframe me stories, sell us new tales, you know, and whatnot.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely yeah, but Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: thank you so much guys for having me. And I'll
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: actually probably finish listening to this episode tomorrow or whenever
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: it's posted, so we'll see what you guys end up
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: talking about.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, man, we're going to talk about some of Charlie
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Kirk stuff.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: It sounds like in Jacob's recent the other JJ's recent
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: you know blog post on the matter, and I do.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: You will also hear that clip from Thomas Fintes where
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: you can stick around for twenty nine seconds if you'd
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: like to hear it now.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Sure, maybe if you're submitting budget proposals for a law
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: enforcement agency for intelligence agency, you're not gonna submit your
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: proposal that we won the war on terror and everything's
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: great because the first thing is going to happen and
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: your budget's going to be cut in half.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: It's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's keep Hope alive. Let's
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: keep figure alive, keep it alive.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: What a muppet?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: What a muppet.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: I do appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 5: get it or joining media GCD and the other JJ.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: You're leaving us with dueling jjs.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: So that's what we got.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a real pleasure.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, great to meet you and have fun.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: Guys, see you next time, all right, sir, Dueling JJ's
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: it is, let's go.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 7: So I mean this this does kind of you know.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 7: Of course this blog post I wrote it about the
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk coverage, but I mean it really does apply
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 7: to almost everything, like the serial killer stuff we were
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 7: talking about tonight, the school shootings, like all of this.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 7: What it is is they're introducing mass trauma through graphic,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 7: unfiltered content. Like that's the whole point, right, And so
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 7: specifically regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination, the videos raw depictions, blood, chaos,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: and Kirk's immediate collapse was optimized for platforms like TikTok,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 7: where short looping clips amplify emotional impact.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: Do you have your I don't have your website, sir,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: I can't find it the book mark. Yeah, I've been
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 5: lost them up at the World.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: No, you're totally good. You're totally good.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: I think our initial scheduling conflicts that began this week
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: was due to my being lost them up at the World.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: I sent you an invite, I sent Austin Way for
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: card and an invite, and I failed the to send
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: your other associate, Jose an invite. But that's you know,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: That's how I mean. Those fellows join us in here
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: in the future possible here for another one. I know
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: Austin and I I've already rescheduled for uh November seventh.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: You're welcome to join us sero and that even like
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: I'd like to talk mats.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 7: Oh nazis right right, Yeah, I would. I would love
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: to uh to be there. I'll talk to Austin about
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 7: that and whatnot, so that that would be great.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: He's he we we're good to go on that, Surrey,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: put it on your books, come on down. But yeah,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: the I was hoping to get a little neckro man,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: Like I said, a little necromancy going on to night Mormons,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: you know, being operations g C D Live and you
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: guys are already dead. So yeah, I figured that's a
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: little bit of necromancy.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 7: Going on, right right. So so this is an exert.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: My microphone almost jumped off from table.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: Yes, wrangle it, watch it, watch out. So anyone who's curious,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 7: this is my uh my sub stack that anyone can find.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 7: It's called were the mocking Bird. Uh you know, Operation Mockingbird.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: You got to beware that damn Mockingbird because it.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: Is out there and it exists, and it's probably even
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 5: worse there than it was. You imagine, dude, that's what
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. The way these things metastasize, if you will,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: in our society.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: And you know, if it's a.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: Few reporters like Dan rather back and you see the left, Dan,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: he must have missed that one, right, yeah, back back
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty three, is a few reporters, Well what
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: is that now amongst our social media times or TikTokers
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 5: or YouTube you know, all these matters.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 7: Right exactly. And that's that's kind of the problem, because
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 7: all of this stuff is just way more amplified. So
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: here here in the blog post, uh, here in the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: section it's talking about the release of the video itself
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: because we all saw it, whether we wanted to or not.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 7: Like we all saw it, and we had no choice
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: in the matter, and that was intentional. So right here.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 7: Number two, inducing mass trauma through graphic, unfiltered content. The
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 7: videos raw description, blood chaos, and Kirk's immediate collapse was
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 7: optimized for platforms like TikTok, where short looping clips amplify
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 7: emotional impact. This aligns with trauma based mind control tactics.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: Sudden visceral trauma causes psychological disassociation, where the mind checks
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 7: out to cope leaving individuals more open to subconscious programming.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 7: Conspiracy narratives frame this as a ritual sacrifice broadcast for
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: imprinting flags, intel symbols, and preloaded family photos in coverage
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 7: subliminally reinforced narratives of division, example left versus right. Mental
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: health concerns surge post release with reports of anxiety and
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 7: decentralized or desensitization, but the syop's goal is deeper. Traumatized
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 7: publics become fragmented, less likely to unite against systemic issues
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 7: like donor influence or foreign meddling in Kirk's death by
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 7: making trauma viral, controller's test and normalized violence, eroding empathy,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 7: and priming for future ops. So, I mean, granted, like
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: I said, I wrote this about the Kirk coverage, However
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: it applies to all of it because it's the exact
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: same tactics being used over and over.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I was about to say, I was rooting
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: around my brain hole with those ideas you were just describing,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, yeah, dude, this is literally the same
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: framework we see time and time again.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: Right, And that's that's kind of why I wrote this too.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's the Kirk thing was because it's you know,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 7: it's in the front of everyone's mind and everyone's talking
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: about it. But these are the same tactics to literally anything.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 7: So just real quick, the last little bit I thought
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 7: would be important here is the strategy weaponizes social media
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 7: as a weapon of mass psychological warfare, turning a single
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 7: event into a tool for collective conditioning. If true, it's
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 7: a test of how far trauma can be scaled digitally
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 7: to enforce control without overt force. And this is the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 7: things that we've all got to be on the lookout for.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: So even if you don't watch mainstream media.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Anymore, we're being ops here, bud, Yeah, on lookout for
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: sy ops.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 9: And like there's thounds of Americans out there. By the way.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 9: I've been shot with a laser beam twice.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, JJ, they got to twice. Watch out. So he
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: was a king of syops.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 7: He loves right, He sure did, He sure did. And
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 7: I mean got shot twice.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, I've been trying to get down
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: to brass tacks and what how that may have occurred.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: I might be onto something, but please continue, sir.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 7: Well that that's kind of just it. You know, all
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 7: of this stuff you know, I I do think serial
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: killers probably would have like occurred naturally. I think there's
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 7: like a lot of things that kind of lead to this.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: But well, it was that point I may I may
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: serve real quick, they may have occurred naturally, but how
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: do they perpetrate naturally?
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 7: It was definitely I so my personal opinion kind of
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 7: just building on the program to kill theory. I think
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: they took something that was happening, that happening naturally, but
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: in very low numbers.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: We see that today. That's a great point there. We
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: see that today with this trans apocalypse exactly.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 7: So they're taking something that's kind of happening naturally through society,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 7: and then they amplify it by these tactics that they
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: learned through MK Ultra and other similar.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: Program and electronic controls and ship too. Because again, yes,
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 5: all this trans apocalypse stuff had some out there's some
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: element I don't I'm not a doctor, sir, I'm also
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: not as president. I won't begin to understand these matters,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: but I will say that there's some some sort of
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: electronic warfare involved with it.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 5: Video games is always discord is always I just get
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 5: down to one of the greatest common denominators, if you will.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: And you know there's always discorders. You know, there's some
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: very specific elements. It seems to scream some sort of
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: electronic warfare being involved, whether it's through the flicker rates
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 5: or the patterns in the video games. I don't know
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: these things. I'm not a doctor, sir.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: Right, well, and that's exactly what's happened. M mk ultra
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 7: has gone digital. You know, I know they don't even
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 7: have to pull you into a scary location to program
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 7: you anymore. They just have to do it through your phone.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 7: They target specific type of person and then that's it.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 7: Once they got their claws in you boom.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: Well, because some of them yeah, that's a great point,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: because some of them experiments we're talking about in this
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: mk ultra, another broader program similar to it. They did,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: in fact, when I say they might have been them
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: folks that got ted with them lasers, but they did
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: in fact determined that they can they got them, Sir,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 5: I think I may have. I don't know if I
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: mentioned this, I may have found the source before I
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 5: finished my point. Let me let me get to that.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 7: One simple request, and that is to have sharks with
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: freaking laser beings attached to their heads. Notice how he
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 7: got so multiple laser bands.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 5: They got, they got, they got him twice of them sharks.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: I think, But yeah, I think what we're looking at.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: I mean love. I love shitting on Ted. It's great.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: It's one of my favorite pastimes. Here operations, g c
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: D the What was I saying I've done last? I
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 5: got so much enjoyment out of shipping on Ted.
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  Speaker 2: What was I saying?
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  Speaker 7: You were talking about the mk ultra of being digitalized
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 7: and how they they can target us uh with without
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: pulling us into these locations.
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  Speaker 2: Program dude, thank you sir.
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  Speaker 5: I once again, while you were describing that, I got
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 5: lost once again in mupple world because I was trying
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 5: to find this boom.
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  Speaker 7: Lasers such a fucking muppet.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: In the studies and experiments of these spooky natures they did.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 5: They did, in fact, looking at some of it. I
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: looked at some of it, and what I could discern
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: is they understood the flicker rates and all these other
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: matters of light and the flickerate of the light and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: the beaming of these messages, the ability to subvert the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 5: conscious natures of the brain with some of this imagery
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: and the flicker rations and whatnot to subvert consciously, that
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: you can implant things subconsciously.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: And this ship was these were known nomes, if you will,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, when.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: We're talking here at operation of GCDs are talking about psychopaths,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: I like to get myself in the brain hoble psychopaths.
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  Speaker 2: As we know there are known nomes. There are things
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: we know.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: We know.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: We also know there are known unknowns.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: That is to say, we know there are some things
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: we do not know, but they're also unknown unknowns.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: The ones we don't know we don't.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: I love that muppet.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: So thes we know about knowing is that they do
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: know these things. And then we can see how these
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 5: things are being applied in video games. It makes you wonder,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: here's an unknown unknown sir, what the fuck was Jeffrey
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: Epstein doing funding video games?
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 7: Right? Well, you know, well, once again the revelation of
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: the method. You know, as as I'm going down these
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 7: rabbit holes become more and more apparent, and all you
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 7: have to do is just look at the things that
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 7: they call, you know, these devices and everything. So tell
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 7: a vision. It's telling a vision. They're channels because you're
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: channeling something and it's programming, because you're being programmed, right,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 7: These are not these are not named coincidentally. You know,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: my favorite quote from David McGowan, How many coincidences do
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: that take to make a conspiracy? And they're all coincidence,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: you know, And it's I don't believe in coincidence anymore.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: There is no coincidence. In my opinion, A genuine coincidence
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 7: would would be so mathematically astronomical that if they do happen,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 7: it would be so rare. I guarantee most people have
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 7: never experienced a genuine coincidence, sir.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a coincidence there. However, they got ted.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 7: They got ted, sir, They got at least at least so.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: And here we see the epicenter of electronic warfare, psychological operations,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: and fucking satanism with this, this fucking muppet with Colonel
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: John Alexander and Michae Lokeena, who his wife and her
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: and these two, these two muppets, this lady and this
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 5: lady Lilith and John Alexander's wife, they claim to be sisters.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: I found no evidence of such.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: But this is the Skinwalker ranch Aviary psychological alien warfare. Nonsense. Hey,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: the aliens in Nevada like the eat strawberry ice cream.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: Not sure if you're aware of that. That's this guy
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: and these two paler These guys are like brothers, right,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: like brother in laws if you will.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: To their wives.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: So therefore we see the epicenter of Satanism and Cargo
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: Colt style with the temple said if you will there
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 5: and his full blown US Army alien business skinwalker, et cetera.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: Right, I mean it makes sense.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: They all fucking know each other, sir.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: Right, right, they're all intermarried, they're all related, you know.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 5: This is the Intelligence Officers Whoop and Intelligence Officers Banquet,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 5: October two thousand and nine. Is he wearing he is wearing? Yeah,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: here's the deal, Bud. He does, in fact believe he
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: is the Duke of Argyle, the rightful Duke plan Campbell.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 5: He claims to be from. I haven't played a game
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 5: yet with who. We're not sure who his daddy is
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: and what her right, But according to him, he's a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: he's a clam Campbell.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 7: I somehow doubt that. I somehow doubt it.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, here's I had that a lot of things
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: about that guy.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna need to see some level of evidence that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: he passed any sort of physical fitness exam ever, let
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: alone a US Army Special Forces exam. I assure you, sir,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 5: I've not done the US Army Special Forces exam. I did,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: in fact, pass the US Army Ranger Test physical fitness situation.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: And it's not easy. So that my motherfucker, that bass
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: Or didn't pass anything, sir.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I can. I can confidently say that as well.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 7: I'm sure he did not.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: There's three things in this world.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 5: I'm certain, and I'm certain there's no way shape or
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: for him he passed any physical fitness exam little then
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 5: the US Army Special Forces training. And I'm also quite
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 5: certain that Ted Gunnerson is full of shit. Now, he
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 5: may or may not have been shot by lasers.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 9: That's inconclusion, right, there's thousands of Americans out there, by
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 9: the way, I've been shot with a laser beat twice.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 5: They got it, They they got them twice, FOLKUS. Now
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: I imagine the scenario. They're in the intelligence officers banquet
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: and world there where syr to the mid Ots, where
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: Ted Gunderson is accompanied by his domestic partner one Diane Haggerty,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: co founder of the Church of Satan.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: And uh at that time, at the same time as
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: that photograph of these other muppets, and and they're just
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 5: hanging out with John Alexander. Pardon me, sir, Oh, goodness, gracious,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: what's going on right now?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Goodness? Pardon me?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: And John Alexander, Michael Akino, they're all they are all
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: the banquet wearing kilts together, dude, probably jamming things up
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: each other's butts.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 7: I mean that that is a common thing that they
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: usually talk about and has been levied against them. So
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 7: if they're shoving things of each others, but I would
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 7: not be surprised in the least.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: You know, Ted made his entire career on investigating things
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: and then try to tell the world, Oh, I'll help
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: with the Satanism, so he said, Satanist. We don't hear
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: about Satanism. Get the fuck out of your Ted.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 7: You know what's interesting about Ted too, because I mean,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 7: my official opinion about Ted is that he was a
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 7: genuine like a to B disinformation agent. So the things
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 7: go right, right, and so a lot of the things
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: he said were true but then there were just enough
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 7: things that were wrong or factually inaccurate that led people astray,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 7: which is the whole point, right, A disinformation agent does
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 7: have to spew truth, but just with a little bit
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: of little bit of a factual inaccuracy. And so there's
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 7: a lot of things, you know, especially about the Satanism stuff,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: that is true. It's crazy you can go through and
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 7: a lot of it's true. And you know, I've over
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: the years, I've used his stuff for some of my research,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: you know, obviously with a grain of salt, because well
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 7: he's a disinformation agent, but uh, there is a lot
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 7: of truth in what he says, and it's kind of
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 7: just interesting. Like, for instance, the the archaeology report that
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: the parents of McMartin got. He wasn't involved at all,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 7: but somehow he got word and just showed up that day.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: You know, it's just trying to trying to put a
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 7: lid back on that thing real quick.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: He's shag heart the whole go ahead, I'm cutting out
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: over here, going sir.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 7: Well, you're you're totally right. Uh, he was just trying
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 7: to shitcoat the whole thing, and uh, you know, by
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 7: showing up is trying to discredit it. Actually, uh, and
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 7: it was incredibly interesting because, I mean he actually failed.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: Other other than the fact that people don't know about it,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, you haven't treated.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: Any victims Mother's home. Jackie mcgaully violated the ship. I
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: don't know what he's trying to do her, but Boley
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: shit ever financially, dude, I've been ever taken by the communists.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 8: My apologies, goet it together, sho go.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: Way, go home, come pigs. Sorry, I'm late. Who goes there?
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Henry Himmler?
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 7: What Clavin claimed?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: You?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: California?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: Clavin Cucamonga, California. Yeah, I was just passing through town
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 7: and uh, looking for something to do this evening. There
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 7: was nothing going on at the roadway club.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: I heard about this.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 7: Well, welcome, Henry. I'm the grand legal.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: Oh California thing. Pig face scum. Tay Guennerdson is a
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: pig face gum.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 5: So, after Jackie mcgully hires the fucking archaeological team her
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: and four other parents she from the McMartin victims, he
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: takes other parents from the victims because he'd infiltrated the scene,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: but through Jackie mcgully, so he meets all these other
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: parents who did not report were not part of the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 5: four parents that hired the team, but their children had
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: been victimized.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: He takes those parents.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: To the scene the day before the archaeological team shows
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: up to start their dig, and they takes them with
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 5: shovels in the l a time.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: Right, that's Teed gunders.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 7: It's so obvious, at least in my opinion, it is well.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: In hindsight, right, I mean, at least be fair in hindsight.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: We have the availability of time information, and we're also
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: not being currently shot at by lasers.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: It's a different time now.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 7: We have less lasers, right, less lasers, and there's not
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 7: one definitely not two.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: Luckily, I don't know about you, sir, but I maintained
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: a couple of pairs of my Mormon underwear does protect
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 5: you against knife attacks, some nuclear weapons, and indeed lasers.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: So I did not know that multiple laser attacks.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you can, much like any kind of
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 5: other armors, only because it's going to sustain so much
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 5: damage you're gonna have to replace at some point.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: You should be good with two attacks of lasers.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 7: Amazing. Well, Hey, I I hate to cut it short,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 7: but I do gotta are.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: You my brain holdser I know your name is JJ
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: br you a brain hos to say. I appreciate your time, sir.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: Let's bring in for Landy. I know you gotta, I
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 5: know you gotta go here. I appreciate your time to
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 5: of course again for joining the GILW G C D.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: And you're gonna be back on Wednesday, along with actually
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: Cosic Peach as well.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that's uh, you know you guys are getting
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 7: your fill of JJ and JJT dueling.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: JJ's again, dude coming up Wednesday and the next Fridays,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaking.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 7: Sir, Yes, sir, so I will be back so those
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: nights I'll be able to hang out as uh as
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 7: long as we need for those nights.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: And this was your suggestion for this film. And the
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 5: Cosmic Peach is also super stoked about it. And it's
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 5: the love affair of Michael Myers and his sister, yes.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 7: Which is incredibly weird. That's how the story starts, uh.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 7: You know, Michael Myers murders his sister and uh you
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 7: know kind of loses his mind from there and then
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 7: you know, becomes the shadow the Boogeyman, you know every
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 7: story right, So yes, thank you all, Thank you all
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 7: for having me back and being being so awesome in
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: the chat and everything. I always love checking everything out. Also,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 7: I saw Bobo make a comment earlier that communists are
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 7: not people, and he is right.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: There, actually indeed not people. Don't I miss the comment.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure where it is, but I like the comment.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 7: They are government property, not people.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: They are indeed muppets, sir, They're they're all saving the
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: muppet world.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: Speaking of that operation GCD Sundays here nine thirty pm
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: Meastern Standard Times, six degrees of the processed Church closed.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 5: They told me it closed in nineteen seventy four, sir, we'ren't.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: First of all, we're in your forty five plus for
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: a panic I'm paying right. You can hear more about
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: that tomorrow night, nine thirty pm Eastern Standard Times. With
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: the adventures and tales of this fucking muppet Mikey.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 7: I'll make sure be in the chat for that one, Yes, sir, and.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Uh and and uh of course versus pal laser tag ted.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 9: There's thousands of Americans out there, by the way, I've
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 9: been shot with a laser beating twice.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Watch your six folks, stay vigilant. We'll catch you next time.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: Thank you again, sir for joining me giltle GCD, and
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: thank you folks of the INTERWEBSCD.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 7: Catch me anywhere. Rise to Liberty, Beware of the mocking Bird,
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  Speaker 5: Yes, sir, and I will have your links in the
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 5: show notes for folks of the interwebs. Check out and
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: check out more dueling JJ's coming up soon. Yes, any
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: closing thoughts, statements, alibis, or baking recipes.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: No baking recipes at this time. I've got to find
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 7: a good one. But just be on the lookout for
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 7: this stuff because we literally live in the disinformation age,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 7: the post truth era. We are literally in fifth generation
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 7: warfare and they are trying to take all of us down.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 7: So just be on the lookout for all of these tactics.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 7: You know, people like yes, sir, me and other JJ
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 7: and plenty of other great people are trying to expose
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: these things to make out harder for them to be
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 7: able to do this, So make sure and soak up
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: the good information why.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 5: You can, yes sir, being a lookout for those tactics
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: and be on the lookout for lasers.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: They got ted twice. Folks, stay vgelant you always. You
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: are the movie made.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: Take your chances were on bo say you are stand you, you.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 4: Are nothing but the wear.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: Shag yourself, your people you made speaking boots up brock boots.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: Say, do not chance it. You've been.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 10: Scott Do.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 4: You lose yourself?
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: Not the bag say there's nothing reason to.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: Gave everywhere a chance.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Your te