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Mexican Food Is Delicious w/ Zack Campbell · The Delicious Culture with Jon Francois

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  Delicious. Grab a plate and taste the delicious
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  culture. I'm your host, John Francois. Oh, we
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  have a great one for you this week. We're feasting
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  on food, pop culture and lifestyle with the host
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  of the Disney Magic podcast from the Zach's Enchanted
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  Escapades YouTube channel. Is it escapades or
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  escape pods? How do you pronounce that word?
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  Escapades. Escapades. Okay. I thought I'd try
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  and be fancy. This is why I'm not in school anymore.
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  I decided after my bachelor's degree that, you
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  know what, I'm going to be done learning words
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  and I'm just going to live my life as a fun dumb
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  person. So thank you, Zach. No, you're welcome.
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  Welcome. But this is Zach Campbell. I was on
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  Zach's podcast not too long ago to discuss the
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  1989 to 1999 Disney movie Renaissance era. So
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  thank you for that. That was a lot of fun. Yeah,
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  it was. It was a lot of fun. Thank you for joining
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  me on that. It was a good time. I really enjoyed
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  that. Yeah, it was it was fantastic watching
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  on Zach's Enchanted Escapades YouTube channel.
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  I want to make sure I get that right this time.
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  For those of you watching on Spotify and YouTube
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  video, I got to commend Zach's awesome shirt.
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  What's on your shirt, man? So this is a company
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  that I buy from. It's called The Shit Shirt Club.
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  And it's just fun prints. And it helps towards
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  like men's mental health with like a men's mental
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  health charity. So every needs to put like a
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  10 % donation for every shirt that you buy and
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  stuff like that. So yeah, I mean, I love these.
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  I'm known for wearing these kinds of shirts,
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  both at work and on my own channel. And yeah,
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  so it's kind of like a staple now, if I'm not
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  in a funky shirt. I'm not recording anything.
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  So yeah, man. I just, I just loved, I love the
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  vibe. So maybe, maybe for the audience that are,
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  that are just listening to the audio version
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  of this podcast, uh, it's, it's a, it's a pink
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  button down. I'm seeing, uh, the word ice in
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  it. I'm getting like a very strawberry donut
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  feel. Uh, Yeah, this one is a Love and Peace.
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  So it's got like a little vinyl there, a little
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  daisy, mushroom there, a little love heart, a
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  little frame print here on the shoulder. Yeah.
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  And it's kind of like, it's not coming across
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  the color that is in real life, but it's like
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  a, it's like a very like hot pink kind of color.
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  Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. I thought
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  I saw the word ice, but like PEA and the word
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  peace was blocked out from your collar. All right.
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  So I'm seeing love and peace. It's, I'm just
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  seeing pink. I'm seeing a yellow. I'm seeing
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  flowers. I'm seeing mushrooms. I'm seeing a strawberry
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  donut. Like that's really great. All for the
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  name of taking care of your mental health. That's,
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  that's definitely important. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  I mean, it's a good cause, man. It's a, you know,
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  and the prints are fun. It's good to, I wear
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  these everywhere. where I wear them at work,
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  I wear them when I'm recording videos. I wear
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  them when I'm playing golf and things like that.
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  I've worn them in the parks when I've been to
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  the Disney parks and stuff like that. So any
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  chance I can get to wear one of these is always
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  cool. So I've had a lot of compliments on most
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  of them as well. Like, oh, that's a cool shirt.
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  Where'd you get it from? So, you know, tell them
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  and like that's a great name. Yeah. As a fellow
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  glasses wearer, I'm also loving the frames. Are
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  those blue? Yes, they are. They're like a royal
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  blue kind of color. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
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  okay. Yeah, I don't know if you're familiar with
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  Because you're based in the UK. I'm based here
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  in Vermont in the United States The Today Show
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  weatherman Al Roker right here in the United
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  States. I'm not sure if you're familiar with
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  them I've heard of him. I've heard of him. Yeah.
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  Yeah, okay, but he also has like these very fashionable
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  colored glasses like nice and I am so jealous
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  because if glasses weren't so god damn expensive
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  I would have like a collection of like ten different
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  pairs of glasses Orange one blue one green and
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  yet I have like my look my boring clear Harry
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  Potter sort of circular frames here You're rocking
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  them John you're rocking them. That's good. Yeah.
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  Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it before
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  these I had like these like sort of rectangular
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  square black frames Yeah, after a while I just
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  got bored of them and I was like, yeah, let me
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  try something different and yeah, I've been I've
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  been having these for the past three years, but
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  yeah All right, Zach, I'd love to get to know
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  people on this podcast through three questions.
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  Let's get going with the first one. What is a
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  delicious meal that you've had lately? So, I
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  mean... I love cooking. Cooking is one of my
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  favorite things to do. And it took me a while
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  to think of this one actually, but I mean, I
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  made, I like to dive into different culture and
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  things like that. Mexican food is one of my favorite
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  things. So, I mean, any chance I get to like
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  burritos or tacos, stuff like that. So I made
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  that the other night. It was so good. It was
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  just, yeah, it was really, really good. I mean,
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  I'm happy to try anything new, any kind of culture
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  and food wise. So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm passionate
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  about cooking. It's one of my, one of my favourite
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  things to do in like my pastime and stuff like
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  that. So yeah. I mean, Mexican food all the way
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  has got to be like right up there a hundred percent.
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  Oh, well, you're speaking my language. You're
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  certainly speaking my wife's language. My wife,
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  anytime we do take out or go out to a restaurant,
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  Mexican or Chinese, like those are the two cuisines
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  that she likes to go for. So what kind of, well,
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  like what, what specifically in the burrito and
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  taco did you put in your Mexican meal last night?
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  So we, I usually go, I usually go for chicken
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  or like ground beef. ground beef with the animate.
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  We had like some, uh, like Chipotle spices in
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  there. I'd like some jalapenos. We had some,
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  um, I'd like some, uh, some hot sauce. It was
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  a delicious sour cream and guacamole and yeah,
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  just all the trimmings for it. It was, it was
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  delicious. That is fantastic. And, um, the more
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  you can stuff your burrito, I say the better.
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  Oh yeah. I mean, for Christ's sake, Mexican,
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  like there's like this Caribbean themed restaurant
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  that we have right around the corner from where
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  we live here in Richford, Vermont. And they have
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  like a million of variety of things on the menu.
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  They have sandwiches, they have wraps, but I
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  always go toward the burrito section. There's
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  just something about. the burrito, the concept
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  of like, okay, I'm going to pack in rice and
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  jerk chicken and black beans. And like you said,
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  sour cream, like all these different flavors
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  and filling foods into this wrap and then just
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  stuff it in my mouth. It did something about
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  it is just irresistible. It makes me boring because
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  I literally order the same exact burrito every
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  time, but like, I don't know, man. It always
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  like it's good. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I mean, I,
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  I, I always, I am curious about like other cultures,
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  other countries. What is cause I know that like
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  in the UK, you're based in England, right? Yes.
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  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, about 20 minutes away
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  from like Manchester. So I'm in the Northwest
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  of England. And I know that like, you guys have
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  a pretty decent relationship with Indian cuisine
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  based on. the history between Indian and English
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  people. Remind me what that history is. Uh, so
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  I mean, we mean when we, you know, when people
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  used to like go and set sail and things like
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  that, a lot of like English kind of sailors brought
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  over spices from like the Indian cultures. Um,
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  and so a lot of people here are like big on,
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  on like curries and, um, uh, like Indian dishes
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  we have a lot of like Indian takeaways and like
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  they're so good like that's so so good they're
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  delicious. But we have we have our own kind of
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  like English kind of uh curry here and it's called
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  tikka masala and it's mainly based with with
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  chicken and oh yeah it's it's delicious it's
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  kind of on the milder side um but it's if it's
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  done well it's it's really good yeah. Yeah so
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  uh two recent guests of mine on this podcast
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  Steve McHale and uh Caitlin Croker we were talking
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  about how much we love chicken tikka masala and
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  I think someone on TikTok corrected me because
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  I thought this was like in originally an Indian
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  dish but it's a British dish. Yes, it is, yeah,
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  yeah, yeah. want to make that distinction. What
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  about the relationship with Mexican cuisine in
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  the UK? Like how does that, how does that sort
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  itself out? There isn't, I mean, there isn't
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  really one. I mean, it's more Spanish cuisine.
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  We have like tapas bars over here. And so tapas
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  is kind of like, kind of like your picky bits,
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  kind of like your, you like your olives, your,
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  you know, your, you know, your salami, your meat,
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  your cheese is that kind of stuff from like Spain.
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  We have like a Spain kind of relationship like
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  Spanish with the Spanish sorry relationship with
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  them in terms of Mexican isn't really one I mean
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  you get you get like your standard Mexican kind
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  of stuff with like you know your ready mate not
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  like your your kind of like kits that you can
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  make like burritos with and taco and things like
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  that like you get that kind of stuff but there
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  isn't really like any Mexican kind of takeaways
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  over here it's very very few and far between
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  so it's It's hard to find a good one over here.
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  There's a couple of good ones in Manchester to
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  be fair. It's kind of like a chain it's called
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  Bar Burrito and they make some of the best burritos
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  like over here that I've had. Now every time
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  that I go to like stateside I always make sure
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  I get something Mexican because like I need that.
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  I need that fill. Like, I don't know if you guys
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  have it in Vermont, but there's a place called
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  Del Taco. And my friends, my friends put me on
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  that Steve and Jay, because they have it over
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  over near them because they're on the West coast.
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  And man, it's so good. It's like some of the
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  best Mexican food I've had. It's oh, it's delicious.
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  So where you are, I wonder like if Mexican food
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  is so few and far between to find, how did you
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  develop that love for it? Was it like, you know,
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  you traveled somewhere and was like, Oh my God,
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  this is where Mexican food is more frequently.
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  And then you tried to bring that back to where
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  you are. Like, how did that, how did that love
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  of Mexican food come about? If, if you can't
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  find it so much in your area. Yeah. I mean, you've
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  kind of hit the nail on the head there to be
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  fair, John. Um, I mean, I, I'm always, I mean,
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  first time I had it, I, Oh, I must have been.
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  must've been, I must've been young. And I think
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  because my, my, my grandfather was American.
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  So he, he had a lot of like Mexican friends and
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  things like that. And he brought his recipes
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  over that my grandma kind of kept for us, uh,
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  for like my mom and things like that. And for
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  me growing up and my two, my brothers and things
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  like that. Um, so it's always kind of been in
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  the house a little bit, but Um, the first time
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  I had like Mexican foods is when I went to the
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  state side, when I were in like 26, uh, 20, 2011,
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  I was, it was the first time I went state side
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  to like Florida and things like that. Um, and
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  I just, just fell in love with it cause it's
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  just, it was so flavorful. It was, you know,
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  it was just the right amount of like spice and
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  things like that. And I was like, okay, I want
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  to, I want to bring this back and make sure this
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  is This is done right in for me and for everybody
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  else as well. So I love that. Um, and the drink
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  that you need to have with your Mexican meal
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  for me. Um, and this has kind of followed me.
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  I don't know, because I'm trying to think like,
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  when was like the first time? It's a silly question,
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  right? When was the first time you tasted Mexican?
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  But I will say the earliest period I can remember
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  having a great relationship with Mexican food
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  was when I used to live in Iowa here in the States.
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  And Iowa, you know, you think, oh, it's rural,
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  white people, like what? But no, like in this
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  liberal college town that I used to live in called
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  Decora, they had this wonderful restaurant called
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  Don Jose Mexican Restaurant. Oh, nice. And sure,
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  like it does have like a sort of a fast foodie
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  Cheney Mexican feel to it, but I would frequently
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  go and get that food. It's walking distance.
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  And I remember always getting these thick like
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  strawberry or mango margaritas. And there was
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  just something about like the, the thickness
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  of the ice and the flavor and the alcohol. And
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  you mix it with your beans and your rice. your
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  lettuce and your sour cream, or if you just put
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  that all together in burrito, like just a combination
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  of the margarita and the food was just lovely
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  to me. So is there like a certain drink where
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  you just have to have it with Mexican food or
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  else it's ruined? I mean, I mean, Usually when
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  I, when I do eat, I don't particularly drink,
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  but I mean, when I do, if I go to like a restaurant
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  or something like that, um, and you know, these,
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  these alcoholic offerings or anything like that,
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  or like, um, mocktails or anything like that,
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  I'll go for a pina colada. Uh, that pineapple
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  kind of is always a good, good balance for me.
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  Um, when I went to, when I was in, uh, Disney
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  world a couple of years ago in 24, uh, they have
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  a Mexico pavilion in Epcot and I went, I got
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  like the tacos and all that kind of stuff and
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  I had a corn, uh, corn beer and that was delicious.
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  Yeah, it's like a Mexican, like instead of like
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  using barley and or hops, it's kind of it's made
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  with like like corn, like wheat, like corn wheat,
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  I believe. Yeah. And it was really, it was really
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  good. And I don't drink beer often. I'm not a
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  big fan of beer. There's only a couple that I
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  like. Um, but this one, it was, it was really
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  good. Yeah. So mainly a pina colada though, cause
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  you know, I love a pina colada. Oh, I can dig
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  a pina colada any day. I mean, first of all,
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  my relationship with the pina colada goes back
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  to that, that, you know, that yacht rod song
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  that, uh, Uh, Pina Colada. Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But everybody calls it the
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  Pina Colada song, including myself, but I think
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  it's not even called that. I think it's called
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  like escape song. It's called escape. Yeah, yeah,
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  yeah. Rupert Holmes escape the Pina. Oh, yeah.
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  But in parentheses, it's the Pina Colada song
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  as part of the song title. I bet he added that
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  because he was like. Man, this isn't the name
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  of my song but just to make everyone happy I'll
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  just call it that. I don't even think the word
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  escape is anywhere in that song. No, I mean,
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  thinking of it now, no problem. I can't, I can't,
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  off the top of my head, I can't think of the
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  word escape in it, so. Yeah. Like, yeah, literally
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  it's just, you like pina colada. And then there's
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  like that funky guitar that happens all throughout.
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  But yeah, I've always remembered listening to
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  that song growing up and I made it my mission.
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  I'm going to taste a pina colada. And I think
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  the first time I tasted it was on my wife and
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  I's honeymoon from like, we took like a Royal
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  Caribbean cruise from like. Miami, Florida to
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  the Bahamas. And we had like the all drink package
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  included with our thing. And pina colada was
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  one of the drinks that I had. And I was like,
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  Oh, wow. Yeah, this is lovely. It's just this
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  white frothy, fruity, creamy tasting thing. And
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  you know, if I was interested in being bloated
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  and tired all the time, I would drink a lot more
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  of those, but I had to, I think I had to stop
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  that for a couple. Yeah. It is, it does, it does
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  lay in your little bit. It's very rich in flavor.
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  Yeah. I think one or two, I think you do, I think
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  you're doing well with one or two though. Yeah.
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  Anymore. I think I'd be out for the night. Yeah.
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  And you said the corn beer. I'm like you. I mean,
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  I don't like. I'm not really crazy about the
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  taste of it. Some people say, I think a lot of
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  people think it tastes like piss and my first
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  question to that is, oh, do you drink piss? Is
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  that part of your daily diet? How do you know
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  what piss tastes like? I wonder. I'm not crazy
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  about it, but you're saying that, like, this
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  beer that has this corn wheat taste to it, that
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  Mexican flavor to it, is pretty nice. Yeah, it
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  was good. Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed it. I
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  would get it again, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Well,
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  thank you, man. I mean, Mexican cuisine, it's
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  again, I mean, maybe not so much where you are,
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  but here in the States, Mexican, Chinese, you
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  could find those restaurants as often as you
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  can find a McDonald's around here. Oh, yeah.
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So it's not,
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  it's not, it's not, it's certainly not like a
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  new kind of thing here, but I would imagine that
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  from where you are with not too many options,
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  it's really an experience to be able to cook
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  it at your house and have it and whatnot. I got
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  to ask, because English cuisine does not have
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  the best reputation amongst some around here.
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  I've had friends like theater friends who've
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  gone to like London for a theater related field
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  trip and we're saying not so great things about
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  the English food. What is English cuisine like
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  from your opinion and why does it get the bad
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  rap that it gets? Or maybe it doesn't from where
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  you guys are. I mean, yeah. I mean, I think it
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  just depends on where you go and it depends on
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  what you get as well. Like I might be biased,
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  but like, I mean, we, we, every Sunday, well,
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  not every Sunday, but nine times out of 10, we
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  have a Sunday roast, which is like meat, potatoes,
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  mash, um, Yorkshire puddings and stuff like that,
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  veg, gravy, all that kind of stuff. So, I mean,
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  can I ask what mash and Yorkshire pudding is?
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  I'm not too familiar with those. Yeah. So mash
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  is mashed potatoes and a Yorkshire pudding is
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  It's hard to explain. It's kind of like, it's
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  kind of like a bowl, like a little tiny bowl
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  of bread. It's like a, yeah. I mean, I mean,
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  they're a fan favorite. They really are. No,
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  no, it's more of a savory. It's more of a savory
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  thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It goes, it goes
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  well with the, with the yacht, with a Sunday
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  roast or like a roast dinner, that type of thing.
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  Right. Um, I mean, of course you've got fish
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  and chips as well. I mean, you got, you got to
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  a good fish and chip place. You know, you're
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  going to get You know, I'd recommend going to
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  the by the sea to get good fish and chips because
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  they catch it daily. So can I ask somebody who's
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  never had it before fishing ships? Are we literally
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  talking like a cooked or fried fish served with
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  a side of chips out of like a bag? Like what
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  are fishing chips? Yeah. So fish and chips is,
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  you know, it's a, it's like, skinless fish and
• 19:08
  it's been fried in like batter with what we call
• 19:12
  them over here. So it'd be more like kind of
• 19:15
  like hot chips like fries for you guys, but really
• 19:20
  like thick chips. If you go to a fish and chips
• 19:23
  shop, we call it a chippy over here. If you go
• 19:25
  to a chippy and you get like proper like chippy
• 19:27
  chips, nothing beats it. Like they're fresh fried.
• 19:31
  They're really, really good. Yeah. um but I'd
• 19:34
  recommend going somewhere near the sea to get
• 19:36
  that um because they catch the fish daily and
• 19:39
  it's freshly served right there like you you
• 19:42
  put your order in they're making it as soon as
• 19:44
  you've put your order in it's yeah you can't
• 19:46
  beat it. Of course we've got Tikka Masala that's
• 19:50
  always a good show. I mean like I say it just
• 19:54
  depends on where you go to get good food I mean
• 19:57
  I always tend to look at places and think okay
• 20:01
  let's look at the menu let's look at reviews
• 20:04
  and things like that and let's see if people
• 20:06
  you know I like looking at reviews of things
• 20:09
  on places I've been going for somewhere to eat
• 20:10
  just to make sure the food quality is good and
• 20:13
  making sure we've like the food hygiene ratings,
• 20:15
  decent as well. Um, I don't know if you guys
• 20:18
  have it over there with like, it'd be like a
• 20:19
  health check, kind of like health inspection
• 20:21
  for like a restaurant, that kind of thing. We
• 20:23
  call it food hygiene. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't
• 20:26
  go, I don't go to anywhere that's like, it's
• 20:28
  rated from like one to five. I don't go to places
• 20:31
  that are below like. a four because I don't mess
• 20:35
  with that kind of stuff. Like it's good. You
• 20:37
  got to go to good quality places and nine times
• 20:39
  out of 10, you're getting good quality stuff.
• 20:41
  So, I mean, I can't, I can't grumble really.
• 20:43
  We have, we have some good food. We have some
• 20:44
  good places, but again, I'm biased cause you
• 20:47
  know, I eat all the time pretty much. So yeah.
• 20:51
  And I think it's unfair to, to, uh, have people,
• 20:54
  especially from the outside looking and saying,
• 20:56
  Oh, all of English cuisine is terrible. I think
• 20:58
  yours is more accurate. You actually living in
• 21:01
  England, which She's like, oh, you know, some
• 21:03
  food is good, some food is bad. It just kind
• 21:05
  of depends on where you go. I guess I just wonder
• 21:08
  where that reputation for English cuisine is
• 21:10
  bad comes from. Is it like, say for example,
• 21:13
  like one of your signature dishes, fish and chips,
• 21:15
  is there like a certain lack of seasoning to
• 21:19
  it? Is there like a certain texture to it that
• 21:22
  makes people think like, oh God, like English
• 21:24
  cuisine is bad. Yeah. And I think it goes back.
• 21:26
  I mean, I heard a lot of It always comes down
• 21:29
  to like when we used to do trays with like the
• 21:32
  European countries, Indian countries, we brought
• 21:34
  all these spices back and we don't use them.
• 21:37
  Essentially that's, that's like the whole stick
• 21:38
  about it. Um, but I mean, you got to a good place.
• 21:43
  You're going to get well -seasoned foods. You're
• 21:45
  going to get good tasting food. It just depends
• 21:48
  where you go and the chefs, if they're doing
• 21:52
  a good job, then you know, like I When I'm cooking
• 21:56
  myself, particularly, I love to try new things.
• 22:00
  I love to try new seasonings, new spices. And
• 22:03
  I always go for, I like spicy food. I'm a big
• 22:07
  fan of spice food, but I'll always go for something
• 22:09
  more flavorful than spicy. I love chipotle sauce.
• 22:16
  hot sauce or like a, like a buffalo hot sauce,
• 22:21
  that type of kind of flavor jalapeno, something
• 22:23
  with a bit of kick, something that gives it that
• 22:26
  expands the flavors out a little bit. So I think
• 22:29
  it comes down to like, okay, English people,
• 22:32
  they've got all these spices, but they don't
• 22:33
  utilize them. We do, but it just depends on where
• 22:37
  you go to get said foods like so. Yeah. So, so
• 22:41
  some do and some don't use the spices. Yeah.
• 22:44
  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some things, some things
• 22:46
  need it. Some things like some things definitely
• 22:49
  needs more seasoning and others fish and chips.
• 22:52
  It's probably the most blandest thing you can
• 22:54
  get. I mean, the only, the thing we put on it
• 22:56
  is, um, like salt and vinegar. That's like the
• 22:59
  thing that we put on it. So it's like that. That's
• 23:02
  all you need. It's like, you just need a bit
• 23:03
  of salt, bit of vinegar and you're done. Like
• 23:05
  it makes a meal like a hundred times better.
• 23:08
  It really does. Got it. Some family on my On
• 23:11
  my wife's side, you're kind of reminding me of
• 23:13
  that here in Vermont, because my wife is white.
• 23:16
  I'm a person of color. I'm black. So coming from
• 23:20
  Connecticut, I come from a Haitian family. There's
• 23:23
  definitely a lot more spicing and seasoning of
• 23:27
  the foods. And then you go to more of what my
• 23:31
  wife's family has cooked throughout their lives
• 23:33
  here in Vermont. And it's like, oh, OK. It tastes
• 23:36
  like you maybe put a little dash of salt and
• 23:39
  pepper and then call it a day. But no, I mean,
• 23:43
  look, I mean, a lot of the food is fine. It tastes,
• 23:46
  you know, I have no terrible problem with it.
• 23:48
  It's just that when I compare it to what I grew
• 23:50
  up with with my own family, it's like, okay,
• 23:53
  this is different. And that's okay. That's okay
• 23:56
  that it's different. You know, I'm all for tasting
• 24:00
  a variety of cooking styles. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 24:04
  Yeah, yeah, for sure. And that's why I like trying
• 24:07
  new things because like, I mean, I've never tried
• 24:09
  Haitian food, but I love like Jamaican. Caribbean
• 24:13
  like Caribbean like a carrot a nice Caribbean
• 24:16
  curry with like, you know mango when you know,
• 24:19
  I can't be it's so good It's the best. It's the
• 24:23
  best. Yeah, I will vouch for Haitian food all
• 24:25
  day any day I think the most recent bout of Haitian
• 24:29
  food was when I mean my wife went to Connecticut
• 24:31
  my home state to celebrate my No, no, no. No,
• 24:36
  actually it was well, one of them was to celebrate
• 24:38
  my uncle's 60th birthday, but also my cousin
• 24:41
  Sarah his daughter I think she graduated law
• 24:44
  school. So it was like a whole thing where I
• 24:47
  was like, oh, let's invite like all of our Haitian
• 24:50
  church friends from growing up and everybody
• 24:53
  who knows how to cook basically provided a dish
• 24:57
  and it was just, yeah, it was the greatest. It
• 24:59
  was like, oh, here's some great rice here. Here's
• 25:02
  some great jerk chicken there. Here's some great
• 25:05
  legume here and salads there. Like it was just,
• 25:08
  it was a nice reminder of what I was blessed.
• 25:11
  with growing up. Oh, not bad. Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:15
  For sure. With the Haitian community in Connecticut.
• 25:18
  Can I ask, as someone living in England, what
• 25:21
  are some of the, I mean, I think I know the answer
• 25:24
  to this, but I want to hear from you, the negative
• 25:27
  stereotypes, the sort of bad rap that you get
• 25:30
  about American cuisine. If anything, Oh, um,
• 25:34
  I mean, I mean, sometimes I think because you
• 25:38
  got like in America, you guys, your, you know,
• 25:40
  your food can have different things in it compared
• 25:43
  to ours. Like ours is deemed as like medieval
• 25:46
  food and like not as, not as, not, not as, not
• 25:50
  as like bad for you. I don't know. Our health,
• 25:53
  our health codes are very different in terms
• 25:56
  of foods. Like we're not allowed to use like
• 25:58
  certain Um, we're not allowed to use like artificial
• 26:01
  colors, artificial flavors, anything like that.
• 26:04
  Um, so we, why is that just with our diff, just
• 26:08
  because of our health, our health standards over
• 26:10
  here, like in terms of, yeah, more strict in
• 26:14
  terms of like everything's like deemed as healthier.
• 26:17
  Like, uh, I mean, like, yeah, so like our, like,
• 26:22
  Um, I don't think we're allowed to do in terms
• 26:24
  of like eggs and chicken and things like that.
• 26:26
  We're not allowed to like cage the chickens anymore
• 26:29
  over here. Like it's against the law. Um, they're
• 26:31
  all, they're all free range eggs are all free
• 26:34
  range chickens. Um, and that has to do with the
• 26:37
  quality of like how the eggs taste. Yes. Yeah.
• 26:41
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The, the yolks are like, um,
• 26:44
  a lot more like natural colored. I think that
• 26:47
  I don't, I think the more like towards geared
• 26:50
  towards like a natural yellow color than they
• 26:53
  are like orange. All of our livestocks like cows,
• 26:58
  chickens, pigs, blah, blah, blah, all that kind
• 27:00
  of stuff. It all got, they're all like, they
• 27:02
  all have to go through like checks and things
• 27:03
  to make sure that, you know, they're healthy
• 27:05
  before they go to be sent to piggy heaven. Sent
• 27:12
  upstate. But yeah, so yeah, there's a lot of
• 27:19
  standards with that and I mean. I mean, don't
• 27:23
  get me wrong. When I come to the States, it's,
• 27:25
  I mean, you guys, like some of my favorite, you
• 27:28
  know, I love having American food, like your,
• 27:31
  your snacks and your, give me a Mountain Dew
• 27:34
  any day of the week. Like we don't, we don't,
• 27:36
  we do not get proper Mountain Dew over here often.
• 27:39
  And when we do, it's like, it's like a treat.
• 27:42
  It's like the nectar of the gods to me, Mountain
• 27:44
  Dew. I absolutely love it. What, what is a, what,
• 27:48
  what defines a proper Mountain Dew? Like, do
• 27:49
  you guys just get like a - a sort of ghetto store
• 27:53
  brand version of Boundo and explain to you guys
• 27:56
  or what's going on? So we, I think our drinks
• 28:01
  and things can't be made with corn syrup. We
• 28:04
  don't have corn syrup at all over here. It's
• 28:07
  like, it's illegal over here for like food and
• 28:09
  stuff. So Our Mountain Dew comes from Europe.
• 28:15
  I can't think where it comes from. It's one of
• 28:17
  the countries in Europe. Like I think it's like
• 28:20
  far up North, like in Europe way. And it just
• 28:23
  tastes so bad. It really like, because you can't
• 28:26
  use corn syrup. So when I get like a proper Mountain
• 28:29
  Dew that's been imported, it's like, oh. Yes,
• 28:32
  thank you. I buy like six at a time and just
• 28:35
  like savor them. I'm like, yes, just give me.
• 28:38
  What's the reasoning for not allowing corn syrup?
• 28:41
  What's, what's, what do they think is in it?
• 28:43
  I'm, I'm not sure. Honestly, I'm not sure. I
• 28:46
  think I think it just goes with those, those
• 28:48
  kind of health standards that, you know, with
• 28:50
  like, it's too high in like fructose and things
• 28:53
  like that. Um, and you know, so we don't, we
• 28:56
  don't allow it in our, in our things like that.
• 28:59
  So, um, I mean, nine times out of 10, you can
• 29:01
  never really tell the difference kind of like
• 29:03
  with, um, kind of like with Coca -Cola or like
• 29:06
  Pepsi, things like that. You can't, you can't
• 29:08
  tell. Um, but things like Mountain Dew or like
• 29:12
  Fanta, our Fanta compared to yours is, ours are
• 29:15
  made with like actual like orange flavor, like
• 29:18
  orange flavoring and like like actual oranges.
• 29:21
  I don't think your Fanta actually contains a
• 29:23
  single. segment of orange. It's fake orange.
• 29:29
  It's fake orange. So yeah, like those are kind
• 29:31
  of like the stark differences. But I mean, again,
• 29:35
  give me American Fanta any day of the week. I
• 29:37
  love American Fanta. It's so bad for me. But
• 29:40
  like at the same time, when I go to, when I go
• 29:43
  to the States, I'm on holiday, so it doesn't
• 29:44
  really matter. It's fine. Like I'll walk it off.
• 29:48
  It's fine. Not a, not a sun kissed. You've never
• 29:50
  had the sun kissed orange soda. Oh, yeah, so
• 29:53
  kiss already so it is good. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
• 29:56
  Yeah. Yeah, that's good Yeah, something about
• 29:58
  orange soda. I talked about this with a reason
• 29:59
  guess something about orange soda and pizza that
• 30:02
  combination is like really yeah, I don't know
• 30:06
  what it was but There was this show growing up
• 30:09
  on Nickelodeon here in the States. Maybe Keenan
• 30:12
  and Kel Keenan and Kelly. There you go. Oh, okay.
• 30:14
  Yeah, I love Keenan and Kelly. Oh my God. You
• 30:18
  see, it's good to know like what American shows
• 30:22
  you guys get over there. Like, yeah, because
• 30:25
  over here, I think it's a lot of stuff that you'd
• 30:29
  see on like PBS, like your Benny Hill, maybe.
• 30:33
  Yeah. Yeah. Like for people who have cable subscriptions,
• 30:35
  they have the BBC. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. But
• 30:39
  yeah, no, I mean, I feel bad because I feel like
• 30:42
  you guys are more in tuned and more familiar
• 30:45
  with American culture and American shows than
• 30:47
  America. Oh, absolutely. For sure. If you had
• 30:53
  cable over here, like you were like, if you had
• 30:55
  like cable TV, you were, you were like, you were
• 30:58
  one of the cool kids. Cause we got like the Disney
• 31:00
  channel. We got, we got Nickelodeon. We got,
• 31:04
  um, It wasn't called PBS over here, but it was
• 31:07
  like the home of like Mr. Rogers neighborhoods,
• 31:11
  Sesame Street, all that kind of stuff. I can't
• 31:12
  think of the name of the channel, but it wasn't
• 31:14
  PBS, but like, yeah. We were, if you, if you
• 31:17
  had cable, you're one of the cool kids. So like,
• 31:19
  yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I said, I mean, aside
• 31:22
  from like going into the deep recesses of the
• 31:25
  PBS schedule, like I didn't really get much exposure
• 31:29
  to English programming growing up. It was literally
• 31:32
  like, I think it's still like that now. Cause
• 31:34
  I think even if you get like the BBC over there,
• 31:38
  I think the main thing that you guys get is like.
• 31:41
  Like I think that, yeah, like I could reel off
• 31:44
  a couple here now and you probably wouldn't have
• 31:46
  ever heard of them. Like, go ahead, go ahead.
• 31:50
  Let me see BBC. I mean, we've got, what have
• 31:54
  we got over here? That's, that's like, we've
• 31:57
  got Strictly Come Dancing on BBC. I think, I
• 31:59
  think that's on BBC. We've got, what else have
• 32:03
  we got? We've got Uh, I mean Coronation Street,
• 32:07
  Emmerdale, East Enders, these are like your big
• 32:09
  ones, like your soap operas and things like that.
• 32:12
  Uh, I don't know any of them. And yet if I rattle
• 32:15
  off like, Oh, Keenan and Kel, the Simpsons and
• 32:18
  Curb Your Enthusiasm, Seinfeld, it's like, yeah.
• 32:21
  And it's that like, it's that like superiority
• 32:24
  thing that America seems to have in terms of
• 32:26
  its mindset in terms of like, oh yeah, like our
• 32:28
  culture, like this is what every part of the
• 32:31
  world should see. But yet when it's flipped,
• 32:34
  A lot of Americans can't tell you, like, their
• 32:37
  favorite French cop drama or their favorite English
• 32:41
  comedy. Like, it's very discouraging. I mean,
• 32:44
  for me, I know in terms of comedy, you guys are
• 32:47
  wonderful. I know, like, going back to The Office,
• 32:51
  I know the British version of The Office was
• 32:53
  what spun out the American version. And I know,
• 32:58
  like, older shows, like shows like Sanford and
• 33:00
  Son from the 70s was made from originally a British...
• 33:03
  So a little bit here at Monty Python. I know
• 33:07
  Monty Python. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:10
  Yeah. Yeah. No, it, yeah. You are, you are right.
• 33:13
  Like if like, is our TV is very niche compared
• 33:17
  to like the American. Like you say it was like
• 33:20
  even, even I think even without cable, like you
• 33:23
  would have had. so many like American shows,
• 33:27
  but I mean, some of my favorite shows are American,
• 33:30
  like, because it's just, there's something different
• 33:33
  about like, there's something different about
• 33:36
  American TV that just, it kind of, it's so dramatic
• 33:40
  and it's so like, it's so, it's so well done,
• 33:44
  like so many times. um but like it can also be
• 33:48
  really bad sometimes like um i mean there was
• 33:52
  what this one show over here that you guys tried
• 33:54
  to do years ago called the in between us honestly
• 33:58
  one of my favorite english tv shows ever it's
• 34:02
  so funny but it's like it's a bunch of um bunch
• 34:06
  of friends that are in like sixth form uh like
• 34:09
  school like they're they're kind of in like college
• 34:11
  kind of like in that area between like high school,
• 34:14
  college over here. Um, and it's, they don't really
• 34:17
  fit in one group per se. So they've kind of clicked
• 34:20
  with each other and they go on all these crazy
• 34:23
  adventures and like, it's, it's so funny, but
• 34:26
  the, the, you know, the comedic timing, the delivery,
• 34:29
  we're allowed to swear a little bit more on our
• 34:31
  TV. Yeah. So there's one. particular thing that
• 34:36
  I mean, I won't, I won't, it's a pretty bad word.
• 34:40
  I won't say it. But it's, it's such an iconic
• 34:42
  scene. And when you guys tried to do it over
• 34:46
  there with the American version of the in between
• 34:49
  is USA. It just did not hit the same at all because
• 34:53
  he said, what word was that? I think it was the
• 34:55
  word like turd or something like that, that you,
• 34:57
  that they said on the American one. And it just.
• 34:59
  did it. It just was like, no, you can't hear
• 35:01
  the same. I absolutely love compared to the English
• 35:06
  version, the office, like I love the American
• 35:09
  office. It's so, so funny. I mean, I love parks
• 35:13
  and rec is definitely one of my favorite parks
• 35:15
  and recreation with, you know, Yeah. Amy Poehler.
• 35:20
  Yeah. I, I love that show. How I Met Your Mother
• 35:23
  has always been a fan favorite of mine. I love
• 35:26
  How I Met Your Mother. Um, what else? I mean,
• 35:29
  Abbott Elementary is another good one that I
• 35:30
  absolutely love as well. That's, that's a great
• 35:32
  show. It kind of hits home with me as well. Cause
• 35:34
  it's kind of like, it's a school based in Philadelphia
• 35:37
  and it, you know, it's kind of like that documentary
• 35:39
  style, kind of like how the office was on Parks
• 35:41
  and Rec. Yeah. I mean, I love that show. It's
• 35:44
  so funny. And it kind of hits home cause I work
• 35:46
  in education. I work in a school. So it's kind
• 35:48
  of like, Oh yeah. I totally get what you guys
• 35:50
  are going through because I did this like two
• 35:52
  days ago. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I wonder
• 35:56
  like if I was growing up in England and I saw
• 35:59
  primarily American content on TV, I wonder if
• 36:02
  I would feel this sort of like inferiority complex.
• 36:06
  You know what I mean? Like, oh, like all of the
• 36:09
  good TV that I enjoy comes from this other country.
• 36:13
  So maybe that like feeds into my mind. Yeah.
• 36:18
  Good TV only comes from here, not where I'm from.
• 36:21
  So I wonder if there was any of that going on
• 36:23
  that you were thinking about growing up or was
• 36:25
  it just like, Oh yeah, this is American TV and
• 36:27
  it's good. And like, yeah, I mean, very few,
• 36:31
  I mean, it's, I mean, I'm, I'm right down the
• 36:33
  middle. I love like growing up with like Keenan
• 36:36
  and Kell, the Disney channel. Like I grew up
• 36:38
  with all that stuff, but On the flip side, I
• 36:40
  grew up with like English TV shows, like there
• 36:43
  was like English cartoons and things like that.
• 36:45
  There was so many good TV shows when I was a
• 36:48
  kid. Two of my favorites was Pingu. Pingu was
• 36:53
  a really good one. It was like this little penguin,
• 36:55
  little family of penguins. like this little penguin
• 36:58
  just got up to like mischief all the time. It
• 37:00
  was great. I loved it. And there was another
• 37:03
  one called my parents are aliens, which, you
• 37:05
  know, these parents come from another, like another
• 37:08
  planet and the like disguise themselves as humans
• 37:11
  and then the kids or the aliens they just crash
• 37:14
  landed on earth and things like that. And it
• 37:17
  was such a good show like so right down the middle
• 37:20
  really like as much as I love like watching the
• 37:23
  Disney channel and things like that growing up.
• 37:25
  I also love watching those older though you know
• 37:27
  those English programs. I'm still the same now
• 37:29
  like I'm watching a new set. There's a series
• 37:32
  that I love over here. One of my favorite English
• 37:34
  comedians, Greg Davies, who also started in between
• 37:37
  us as one of the teachers. Um, and he's just
• 37:40
  hilarious. And he has a show called test master,
• 37:43
  which is like, it gets like a group of like comedians
• 37:46
  and main primarily English and gets them to do
• 37:49
  like all these different weird bizarre tasks.
• 37:52
  I can't even pinpoint one cause they're just
• 37:54
  so outlandish and just out of the way like that.
• 37:57
  And then they get like They get like a certain
• 38:00
  amount of points for how well they did and things
• 38:02
  like that. And it's just good quality TV. Like
• 38:05
  it's good. It just really hits home because our,
• 38:08
  our humor is so different than compared to like
• 38:11
  American humor. Like over here, we're so, we're
• 38:14
  sarcastic. We're like, we're very, very dry humor
• 38:18
  and Americans sometimes don't get that. Like,
• 38:22
  like they just don't. understand it sometimes
• 38:26
  it's like oh I can say something so out like
• 38:29
  out there with such a straight face and just
• 38:31
  be like yeah I'm actually joking like I'm not
• 38:35
  serious like I'm just not like I just don't please
• 38:39
  don't take it that way like yeah well going off
• 38:42
  of that point I mean the like the office is a
• 38:44
  perfect example of that because I believe the
• 38:47
  first season of the American office, they were
• 38:49
  essentially trying to be the British office.
• 38:51
  Yes, they were, yeah. With Steve Carell's character
• 38:54
  kind of like mimicking, trying to mimic like
• 38:57
  Ricky Gervais's character in terms of like more
• 38:59
  of a dryness, more of a sort of sarcastic. mean
• 39:04
  edge to the humor. And it wasn't working. And
• 39:09
  I think the second season on is when they discovered
• 39:11
  that Michael Scott needs to have more of a lovable,
• 39:17
  dumb, klutzy guy quality. So they gave him that.
• 39:21
  They, I guess, switched him from, oh, he's just
• 39:24
  going to be mean and say racist or sexist jokes
• 39:28
  to... Oh, like, you know, yeah, maybe he'll say
• 39:32
  something insensitive, but you can tell that
• 39:34
  this is a guy that doesn't know that he's being
• 39:37
  insensitive and that he means well, and that
• 39:40
  he does have this lovable klutz quality to him.
• 39:43
  And, and that's what the, yeah, I don't know.
• 39:46
  It's interesting that you say that. I mean, I,
• 39:48
  cause there's plenty of dry and sarcastic people
• 39:50
  to be found here in America, but I guess there's
• 39:53
  something about seeing that on television here
• 39:55
  that maybe doesn't, I don't know. It doesn't,
• 39:58
  it doesn't. communicate as well if you're like
• 40:01
  really like leading with that like yeah you have
• 40:04
  some dryness and sarcasm here and there but if
• 40:06
  we're not rooting for the main character. If
• 40:09
  we're not loving the main character in some way,
• 40:12
  then all of a sudden it gets lost. So I actually
• 40:16
  commend you guys in England for being able to
• 40:18
  do the dryness and sarcasm and the unlikeability
• 40:21
  so well, because I think you can make good television
• 40:24
  like that, but Americans, I guess there's a slowness
• 40:27
  in how Americans consume TV. And maybe they just
• 40:31
  think if you're dry, sarcastic with your humor
• 40:34
  and you lead with that, then all of a sudden.
• 40:36
  and like, this is me and I don't get this and
• 40:39
  this shouldn't be on TV and... A really good
• 40:42
  example, like a really good comparison. I don't
• 40:44
  know if you've ever watched it is Kitchen Nightmares
• 40:46
  with Gordon Ramsay. Yeah, of course. Yeah. If
• 40:49
  you've watched, obviously you've watched the
• 40:51
  American version. I mean, that's so... So dramatic
• 40:54
  compared to like the the sound effects and the
• 40:57
  editing style compare it to the English version
• 40:59
  It's literally just I mean, it's there's no comparison
• 41:03
  to it because with the English version I mean,
• 41:06
  I prefer I prefer the American version to this
• 41:08
  but like the English version is kind of like
• 41:10
  so it's not it's I mean obviously it's got its
• 41:13
  dramatic moments, but it's not as dramatic in
• 41:15
  terms of all the sound effects and things like
• 41:18
  that with like the like it's everywhere like
• 41:21
  the Which one? I mean, like there's that one.
• 41:26
  And then, I mean, you, you wouldn't really hear
• 41:28
  that on like English TV because the way English
• 41:31
  TV is edited, it's so much more linear in a way.
• 41:36
  Like with like our dramas, it's very linear with
• 41:39
  like, in compared to like an American drama where
• 41:41
  it's like, okay, this is what's happening at
• 41:43
  a sound effects. Okay. Let's, let's, let's get
• 41:46
  to the next clip and then let's, you know, Comparing
• 41:49
  like, again, like, I mean, one of my favorite
• 41:52
  shows is Criminal Minds. Like I love Criminal
• 41:54
  Minds. I like a good crime drama, NCIS, that
• 41:57
  kind of stuff. Comparing something over here
• 41:59
  to like, we've got something over here called
• 42:01
  Line of Duty, which is like the same essential
• 42:04
  thing, but in terms, but based in like a police
• 42:07
  rather than like, cause we don't have like FBI
• 42:09
  or anything like that over here. We were very
• 42:11
  much based with like the police and then that
• 42:13
  expands to like different units and things like
• 42:16
  that. but comparing them to again is you know
• 42:19
  like ours is so much more linear it kind of follows
• 42:22
  the story of like a path with over like and I
• 42:25
  think as well because I think one of like I don't
• 42:30
  know, like one season for us, in terms of like
• 42:33
  a drama, follows a story for the whole season.
• 42:37
  Whereas like a season for like Criminal Minds,
• 42:40
  it's a different, different person every time.
• 42:42
  It's a different kind of like, different suspect.
• 42:44
  Whereas like over here for like these, for like
• 42:47
  the six episodes, it'd be, okay, well, let's,
• 42:50
  let's catch this guy in one season and then let's,
• 42:53
  you know, and if need be. maybe we'll take it
• 42:55
  into like one and a half or something like that.
• 42:58
  Leave a bit of a cliffhanger. So yeah, I mean,
• 43:01
  it's, it TV is very, very different compared
• 43:03
  to what you, what, what you guys are made in
• 43:06
  the States and then what we make over here. But
• 43:08
  like going to my, going back to my point, like
• 43:10
  I made earlier, it's, you know, it's night, it's
• 43:12
  night and day. And I love, I'm very 50 50 with
• 43:15
  it, like I mean, my two favorite shows that I'm
• 43:19
  watching currently, I mean, I love Scrubs. Scrubs
• 43:22
  is one of my favorite comedies as well. And obviously
• 43:25
  they've just brought out the new revival series,
• 43:29
  which I mean... chef's kiss like it was so good
• 43:32
  i really really enjoyed it um season finale just
• 43:36
  happened uh last wednesday um oh man it was just
• 43:40
  incredible it really really was like it kind
• 43:42
  of hit that 2000s kind of note that scrubs was
• 43:46
  known for for like being outlandish with jd's
• 43:48
  like daydreams and things like that and it really
• 43:51
  hit It really hit home with like a lot of shows
• 43:54
  that try and revive themselves. Don't do as well.
• 43:57
  And I was kind of worried about that going into
• 43:59
  it at the beginning of it was like, okay, well
• 44:00
  let's, let's see how it goes. We'll give it a
• 44:02
  go. And they absolutely, in my opinion, they
• 44:04
  absolutely nailed it. They really did. Yeah.
• 44:07
  Uh, scrubs. I still haven't seen the original
• 44:10
  show in addition to the reboot. Um, so I still
• 44:14
  have to put that on my list. Um, I did see one
• 44:18
  of the actors who maybe guessed it on the show.
• 44:22
  He also plays the Genie in Aladdin on Broadway.
• 44:26
  Yes, he does. Yeah. And he did like a nice documentation
• 44:29
  video of like the four months where he had to
• 44:31
  like kind of fly back and forth between like
• 44:33
  filming his role on Scrubs and also making sure
• 44:36
  he got to the Broadway stage in time playing
• 44:38
  the Genie in Aladdin. Yeah, it was crazy. What
• 44:41
  a life performance. That must have been absolutely
• 44:43
  brutal. But you know what? It actually, it actually
• 44:48
  filmed, because he filmed that. And originally,
• 44:51
  the original series was filmed in an abandoned
• 44:53
  hospital in California. Really? So when they
• 44:57
  finished the original like nine series, they
• 45:00
  knocked that building down because it was like
• 45:02
  filmed in that building with like, at the beginning
• 45:04
  there was always like, because it was like a
• 45:07
  working hospital to begin with, like people used
• 45:09
  to come in and think, oh, well let's have to,
• 45:10
  you know, we'll go in here. And these, you know,
• 45:12
  these actors dressed in like scrubs and like...
• 45:15
  doctors jackets and things like that was like
• 45:17
  no we're not actual doctors we're like we're
• 45:20
  filming we're filming a series here so but the
• 45:24
  the new series was filmed in Vancouver so that
• 45:27
  must have been absolutely brutal like fly in
• 45:30
  from like Vancouver to New York like man sure
• 45:33
  kudos to him man honestly that's crazy oh yeah
• 45:36
  yeah I mean I'm sure the flight itself wasn't
• 45:38
  that long but just like still being on a plane
• 45:41
  going back and forth then that's it yeah and
• 45:43
  actually if I remember correctly that video his
• 45:45
  plane wasn't gonna make it to New York in time
• 45:47
  so he had to go on a helicopter yes he did yeah
• 45:50
  yeah yeah I was like oh man is he gonna make
• 45:52
  it come on and he did and he did he did get a
• 45:54
  warning from management he did get a warning
• 45:56
  like, oh, you showed up 20 minutes before showtime.
• 45:59
  That's not OK. So this conversation that we've
• 46:04
  been having about like all the different shows,
• 46:06
  I mean, it's naturally great to lead into our
• 46:08
  next question here. A delicious piece of pop
• 46:11
  culture you've been consuming lately. I mean,
• 46:13
  maybe you already mentioned it in the many shows
• 46:16
  that we've talked about, but is there like a
• 46:19
  TV show, movie, book, podcast, play, piece of
• 46:22
  music that you're just like really, really loving
• 46:24
  lately? Oh, I mean, I recently got into the Marvel
• 46:28
  stuff like last year. I've always been a DC fan.
• 46:33
  Like I'm always enjoyed the DC stuff. So, and
• 46:36
  then I got, I watched all of like the Marvel
• 46:38
  movies last year in like preparation for my trip
• 46:42
  to go to California to go see like Avengers campus
• 46:45
  and things like that. And I absolutely fell in
• 46:48
  love with the daredevil series. So daredevil
• 46:52
  born again, season two is just, it is it to me,
• 46:56
  it's a cinematic masterpiece. It is so, so well
• 47:00
  done. the stories, the characters, and it's,
• 47:04
  it's absolutely brutal in some ways. It really
• 47:08
  is. Like there's some scenes in there that are
• 47:10
  so, so graphic and so well done with like the
• 47:14
  fight scenes and things like that. It's just,
• 47:16
  it's really, it's like, it took the comics and
• 47:18
  kind of put it to the big screen. And I absolutely
• 47:21
  love the fact that they've done that. I mean,
• 47:24
  Dino was one of my favorite superheroes always
• 47:26
  has been, I read the comics when I was younger
• 47:28
  and things like that. So to see it. transitioned
• 47:31
  onto onto the screen has just been incredible
• 47:35
  from like the Netflix series back in the day
• 47:37
  to these two new series that Disney are putting
• 47:39
  out like it's yeah it's so good like this dead
• 47:43
  of all born again season two is uh definitely
• 47:46
  up there for one of my favorites for sure this
• 47:49
  year of TV that's come out. Yeah. I feel like
• 47:52
  of the Marvel Universe Daredevil is the character
• 47:56
  or one of the characters that just doesn't get
• 47:58
  talked about or respected enough. Absolutely.
• 48:03
  Like you go to the Marvel Cinematic Universe
• 48:05
  over the last decade or so and everybody can
• 48:08
  talk about Iron Man, the Avengers, Spider -Man,
• 48:12
  Hulk, Thor. Uh, but daredevil my sort of trajectory
• 48:18
  with daredevil was I think I go back to middle
• 48:21
  school seeing the Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner
• 48:24
  daredevil. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Which was If I remember
• 48:28
  correctly, I don't think it was too well received,
• 48:30
  was it? No, no, I don't think so. No. Yeah. And
• 48:33
  you saw yourself? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've watched
• 48:36
  it a couple of times and it, I mean, it's fine.
• 48:39
  I mean, I'm, I mean, by Netflix, fine. Jennifer
• 48:42
  Garner as a lecturer was, was good. I mean, she
• 48:45
  showed up in Deadpool and Wolverine. Like Deadpool
• 48:47
  is my absolute thing. I love Deadpool is my absolute
• 48:50
  favorite Marvel character 100%. Um, and she showed
• 48:54
  up in like the void and like Marvel, uh, Deadpool
• 48:56
  and Wolf. So yeah, she, she was a great character.
• 49:00
  Um, but the movie itself was, I mean, it's hit
• 49:02
  and miss it. It's fine. But this, this iteration
• 49:06
  that they're doing with, uh, with Charlie Cox
• 49:08
  as, as Matt Murdock is in credit is so good.
• 49:11
  Like he, he, he was, he's doing the role fantastically
• 49:14
  well. He really, really is. And he's a Brit as
• 49:16
  well. He's a, he's a British guy. So. Charlie
• 49:18
  Cox. Can you remind me of the story of Daredevil?
• 49:21
  Cause from what little I remember of both watching
• 49:24
  that Ben Affleck movie and also there was a Netflix
• 49:27
  series that was out like maybe like a decade
• 49:30
  or so ago. It's like a, yes. Yeah. So it was,
• 49:34
  I mean, it's a blind guy that becomes a superhero.
• 49:39
  What's the whole background of Daredevil? Remind
• 49:40
  me. Yeah. So Matt Murdock, um, he, Um, he, he
• 49:46
  got, he was in an accident with like some, some
• 49:48
  acid, I believe it was acid and it got into his
• 49:51
  eyes, like splashed into his eyes. He's not fully
• 49:54
  blind, but he could, you know, he's got heightened
• 49:56
  senses so he could, you know, his hair and his
• 49:59
  smell. Um, he's, he's got like heightened sensibility
• 50:03
  and sensing things like that, but he can see,
• 50:05
  he can see like outlines of things and of people
• 50:08
  and things like that. So, and then he went on
• 50:10
  to become a lawyer with his, with his best friend,
• 50:13
  Foggy. Foggy Nelson and then they became lawyers
• 50:16
  and they fight for the little people, they fight
• 50:20
  for the little ones. The whole story about Daredevil
• 50:23
  is Matt always thought that the justice system
• 50:28
  wasn't working well enough to put these guys
• 50:32
  behind bars and one of his biggest one of his
• 50:35
  biggest enemies, you know, villains is Kingpin,
• 50:38
  Wilson Fisk, who was in the Daredevil one, who
• 50:42
  was played by, I can't think of his name. He
• 50:44
  was in the green mile. I can't think of his name.
• 50:46
  The big, big, big black man. I can't think of
• 50:49
  his name. Oh, I think I know maybe Michael Clark
• 50:52
  Duncan. That's the one. Michael. Yes. Yes. I
• 50:55
  think he's dead. He is dead. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately.
• 50:58
  Rest his soul. Fantastic actor. Love him to bits.
• 51:02
  But yeah. Wilson Fisk is just one of his main
• 51:07
  bad guys and he's the epitome of justice, getting
• 51:13
  his own way, doing things the wrong way in terms
• 51:16
  to get power and running the show. Hence his
• 51:20
  name, Kingpin of his alias, his alter ego kind
• 51:24
  of thing. So Matt became daredevil to fight off
• 51:27
  these guys who were not getting the right justice
• 51:32
  and not... not getting what, what, you know,
• 51:35
  getting, getting their own way essentially. Um,
• 51:38
  and so it's very gritty. It's very street level.
• 51:41
  He's kind of in the same vibe as like, it's on
• 51:44
  the same level as Spider -Man, like Spider -Man,
• 51:46
  you know, Spider -Man does like Manhattan, Brooklyn,
• 51:50
  that kind of stuff. Daredevil sticks to like
• 51:52
  Hell's Kitchen, which is like a gritty part of
• 51:54
  New York. And it's like, yeah. So I mean, yeah.
• 51:58
  Fantastic. fantastic character, fantastic superhero.
• 52:01
  How does his blindness factor into his abilities
• 52:05
  or his persona as a superhero, if that makes
• 52:07
  sense? Yeah. So, I mean, obviously, you know,
• 52:10
  he uses his other senses, mainly hearing and
• 52:13
  smell and things like that, to like sense who,
• 52:16
  you know, who's around him, what's there and
• 52:18
  things like that. And in terms of that, it allows
• 52:21
  him to, you know, fight and, you know, he's got,
• 52:24
  you know, heightened senses. and just be on his
• 52:29
  guard with that kind of stuff. I mean, the only
• 52:31
  thing that can really, if anything, can really
• 52:34
  stop him in terms of like, you can't hear anything.
• 52:37
  There's been a few times in like the comics and
• 52:40
  things like that where they've made like a loud
• 52:43
  like bang with like a metal pipe or anything.
• 52:45
  That'll kind of like distort him a little bit
• 52:47
  and that'll be like throw him off the game a
• 52:50
  little bit and then... for the most part, you
• 52:53
  know, he's trained in martial arts, he's trained
• 52:54
  in boxing, his dad was a boxer. So, I mean, he
• 53:00
  grew up with like, you know, fighting, watching
• 53:02
  his dad fight and helping, helping his dad, you
• 53:05
  know, stitch him up. So he's very, he's very
• 53:08
  well equipped to be, to be a superhero, I think.
• 53:11
  I mean, compared to like you know like your other
• 53:15
  ones whom I'm thinking of Marvel wise compared
• 53:18
  to like Spider -Man or you know like Thor I mean
• 53:23
  he's pretty much he's pretty much he's pretty
• 53:25
  much more he's pretty much like he doesn't have
• 53:27
  any like superpowers per se but he has like those
• 53:30
  heightened senses which kind of really like help
• 53:32
  him to go a little bit further than like your
• 53:36
  regular blind person I guess so yeah. So I kind
• 53:42
  of wonder like the differences in how the Daredevil
• 53:45
  character and his story and his fighting crime,
• 53:48
  how is it dealt with in the Ben Affleck movie
• 53:51
  compared to how is it dealt with in that Netflix
• 53:53
  show that I saw, I don't know, maybe a decade
• 53:55
  ago, compared to how it's dealt with current
• 53:57
  day with the born again show that you had mentioned.
• 54:00
  Like what are the key differences in how the
• 54:04
  story is handled between those three properties?
• 54:06
  Yeah, I mean, so the Daredevil with Ben Affleck
• 54:09
  was very It was kind of like the children's version
• 54:14
  of how Daredevil is. When you read the comics,
• 54:18
  Daredevil is very gritty. It's very dark. It's
• 54:26
  very violent in a sense. So the Daredevil series
• 54:31
  that was on Netflix a decade ago, the Daredevil
• 54:34
  born again series is a continuation of that.
• 54:37
  Um, so that follows on the story of like 10 years,
• 54:43
  five, 10 years after the Netflix one finished,
• 54:46
  uh, got canceled by Netflix, I believe. Um, and
• 54:51
  so those two compared like it's, it, it, it's
• 54:55
  like taking the comic book and put it on the
• 54:58
  screen. Like it's got that, it's got that drama.
• 55:00
  It's got that, it's got that crime. It's got
• 55:03
  that grittiness to it. It's got the the storytelling,
• 55:06
  it flows really nicely. It's got the violence
• 55:11
  in it, the crime. There's one scene where, and
• 55:16
  I think it was in the Netflix series, and it
• 55:21
  was Kingpin who was, you know, he was betrayed
• 55:25
  by someone who he was working with and things
• 55:28
  like that. So we took him to this remote place
• 55:31
  that I think it was near the Hudson River in
• 55:33
  New York took him to like under this bridge near
• 55:35
  the Hudson River. And on it, it was, it was brutal.
• 55:39
  Like he just kept slamming the door on this guy
• 55:42
  and it was, and you thought it was going to win,
• 55:46
  but it was no joke. It lasted for like a minute
• 55:48
  of just continuation of this. And it was, it
• 55:52
  was crazy. It was crazy. And that is like, yeah,
• 55:57
  it was, it was so, yeah. Like you've got bullseye
• 55:59
  as well, which is like another, it's just like
• 56:01
  a That's kind of like an anti -hero at the moment.
• 56:05
  They're trying to take that spin on it a little
• 56:07
  minute at the minute for like for balls I and
• 56:11
  obviously he was in he was in the Ben Affleck
• 56:13
  version as well played by Colin Colin Farrell.
• 56:17
  Yeah, I always got so familiar Yeah, yeah, I
• 56:20
  get confused by Colin Firth and Colin Farrell.
• 56:22
  Yeah, right Yeah, that is exactly it. Yeah, just
• 56:29
  give me one. But yeah, Colin Farrell, I mean
• 56:32
  him playing his balls, again, very tame compared
• 56:35
  to what they're doing at the moment with the
• 56:38
  series of born again and what they did in the
• 56:40
  Netflix series with him. I mean, he is, he's
• 56:43
  He's brutal. There was one scene in, was it last?
• 56:47
  It wasn't last week's episode. I think it was
• 56:48
  the episode before where he went to like an American,
• 56:51
  where he went to like a diner, got breakfast,
• 56:54
  phoned up the police to like say, oh, we think
• 56:56
  the Punisher's here. And just absolutely ran
• 56:59
  through all of these like anti vigilante task
• 57:02
  force agents, just like a whole group of them.
• 57:05
  I think it was like 15 of them. And he was like,
• 57:08
  and then some guy turned around to him and went,
• 57:10
  please don't hurt me. It was like, don't worry.
• 57:11
  I'm a hero. And then just walked off I was like
• 57:14
  that is just incredible that's something you'd
• 57:17
  see in the comic books and it's so good like
• 57:19
  yeah so income to I mean to go back to your question
• 57:23
  the daredevil the dead of a movie was very tame
• 57:27
  this is the complete opposite of that. Like this
• 57:31
  is the gritty darkness that you want. The gritty
• 57:33
  darkness. Absolutely. Because that's what Daredevil
• 57:36
  is. Like you read the comics and it's not tame.
• 57:39
  It's kind of like, okay, this guy is absolutely
• 57:41
  getting beat on the crap out of. And it's like,
• 57:44
  okay, yeah, that's what I want to see in like
• 57:46
  TV. Like that's great. And I'm glad that it came
• 57:49
  back with like Disney on Disney Plus and things
• 57:51
  like that. I'm glad that they've still put that
• 57:55
  into it because that the Netflix series was so
• 57:58
  well done. Like it was, it was incredible. And
• 58:01
  the, I mean, this, I might actually say that
• 58:04
  born again, he's probably done a little bit better
• 58:07
  because it's so not only so well received, but
• 58:10
  like the characters just, they just go so well
• 58:13
  together. The people they've got, I mean it's
• 58:14
  Vincent Dunforio playing Kingpin and he's like
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  a fantastic actor. He's so good and he plays
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  that role so well. He really, really does. It's
• 58:25
  incredible. But yeah, it's so good. I love that.
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  I love that. So I definitely have to check that
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  out. Um, final question, as we're wrapping up
• 58:36
  here, I want to know what is a delicious thing
• 58:39
  that's happened in your life lately? This could
• 58:41
  just be any positive life event. Yeah, nice.
• 58:44
  Okay. Uh, so. I was on, I was on holiday a couple
• 58:48
  of weeks ago. I went to a place called Cornwall
• 58:50
  down in the Southwest of England. I mean, the
• 58:53
  weather was gorgeous. It's, I mean, there's some
• 58:55
  beautiful views. It's like right on the edge
• 58:57
  of England. Like it's, it's like, like facing
• 59:00
  the Irish sea. It's absolutely stunning. A nice
• 59:03
  little seaside town or seaside area. St. Ives
• 59:07
  was like the closest part there and it was gorgeous
• 59:09
  and really, really nice. Yeah, it was, it was
• 59:13
  beautiful. The weather was nice and it was just...
• 59:15
  Yeah. It was so peaceful and so chill. It was
• 59:18
  just, it was so, yeah, it was lovely. It was
• 59:20
  really, really nice. Where is it again? It's
• 59:23
  the Southwest of England. So. It was like, from
• 59:27
  where I am, I'm a little bit inland. So it was
• 59:30
  like, it was like an, uh, we set off at five
• 59:33
  o 'clock in the morning. We got there at five
• 59:34
  PM, but we, that was including stops and things
• 59:37
  took us 12 hours to get down there. Cause it's
• 59:39
  like right on the edge of, of England. Like we,
• 59:43
  we drove for like, I think we drove for like
• 59:46
  20 minutes out of the way. And we was like at
• 59:48
  the most, most like West, the most southern point
• 59:51
  of England called Lizard Peninsula. It was beautiful.
• 59:54
  It was so cool. Yeah. It was really, really nice.
• 59:57
  When did you go there again? Went there over
• 1:00:00
  the Easter break. So it would have been We good
• 1:00:05
  Friday and like over Easter Sunday, kind of like
• 1:00:08
  that week there. Yeah. Are you getting consistent,
• 1:00:11
  beautiful spring weather over there right now?
• 1:00:12
  Or is it kind of like the United States right
• 1:00:15
  now where, well, I mean, I don't know about the
• 1:00:17
  entire United States. I can't speak to that,
• 1:00:18
  but here in Vermont, traditionally winter tends
• 1:00:21
  to linger from like October to May. Uh, this
• 1:00:26
  year it seemed like the worst of winter was like
• 1:00:30
  November through maybe February, March. And then
• 1:00:33
  something happened in the last month or so where
• 1:00:35
  we'd started to get like a lot more mild, beautiful
• 1:00:38
  60s, 70s, sunny spring like days. And then every
• 1:00:42
  single moment where I think, okay, spring is
• 1:00:43
  here to stay, winter's done. We have a day like
• 1:00:46
  today where it's like, Oh, All right, back to
• 1:00:48
  snow. So how was the weather like in England,
• 1:00:51
  uh, in terms of the changing of the seasons?
• 1:00:54
  I mean, it's, I mean, it's very hit me. I mean,
• 1:00:56
  we can get four seasons in a day and then the
• 1:00:58
  sun like that was one. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah,
• 1:01:01
  we're, we're very much, we're very much hit.
• 1:01:03
  It's been a nice day today. It's been sunny.
• 1:01:05
  It's been like 14 degrees Celsius today. So it's
• 1:01:08
  been a nice, it's been a nice day today, which
• 1:01:10
  is nice being in work and things like that. But
• 1:01:13
  I mean, we'll look, we were lucky with the weather
• 1:01:14
  in calm while it was, it was, I mean, it's, it's
• 1:01:16
  gorgeous down there the weather it's a different
• 1:01:18
  kind of vibe down there it's very kind of like
• 1:01:20
  tropical kind of vibe like it is very it's a
• 1:01:23
  bit of humidity down there which is nice i like
• 1:01:25
  i like that so that's good um but yeah i mean
• 1:01:28
  like up here we had up where i am up in manchester
• 1:01:32
  we had like a massive storm passing through my
• 1:01:34
  brother one of my brothers stayed up here to
• 1:01:36
  look after the house and the cats and things
• 1:01:38
  like that um so He said, we've had a massive
• 1:01:42
  storm. It's like not to start raining for like
• 1:01:43
  four days. It's like, cool. It's like glorious
• 1:01:46
  sunshine down here. So like, it's so hit and
• 1:01:50
  miss. It really is like, there was one day where
• 1:01:52
  it was like, honestly, it was before we broke
• 1:01:54
  up for like the Easter holidays and it was like
• 1:01:57
  spring break for you guys. It was sunny. And
• 1:02:01
  then it hailstoned and then it was sunny again
• 1:02:04
  and then it rained and then it was like Baltic
• 1:02:07
  windy wind. And I was like, what is going on?
• 1:02:10
  It's like, you've got to bundle up for like four
• 1:02:12
  seasons in a day here. It's like, it's crazy.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah. You can't keep up with it. I mean, especially
• 1:02:16
  the way we've had crazy wind here. So much so
• 1:02:21
  that we have to replace our fence. Uh, so much
• 1:02:24
  so that, uh, so we have five dogs and two cats
• 1:02:27
  here and the cats are fine with anything, but,
• 1:02:32
  uh, the dogs get really riled up by wind and
• 1:02:36
  thunderstorms, especially one of our dogs, Archer.
• 1:02:38
  Um, I think maybe two or three times my wife,
• 1:02:42
  Tony has had to take Archer to the vet where
• 1:02:45
  she works. She's a veterinary technician. Um,
• 1:02:48
  because like we have our dogs in crates. when
• 1:02:51
  we're not here. And Archer is the type where
• 1:02:56
  if the wind comes and he's scared enough by it,
• 1:02:58
  he will try every way he can to escape. That's
• 1:03:02
  just his like fight or flight kind of thing.
• 1:03:04
  And he has broken so many of his teeth just trying
• 1:03:08
  to, so hard to get out of the crate. And Tony
• 1:03:11
  has to take him to work to surgically take the
• 1:03:14
  teeth out. And then he has to have a period of
• 1:03:17
  time where he can only eat soaked food and he
• 1:03:20
  cannot have his toys. And yeah, the weather has
• 1:03:23
  not been kind to Archer. Oh, bless him. Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  What do your cats do when the extreme weather
• 1:03:32
  comes by? Do they just like cower under the bed
• 1:03:35
  or like what do they do? No, I mean, they're
• 1:03:37
  fine to be fair. They're actually, they're all
• 1:03:38
  right with it to be fair. The only thing that
• 1:03:42
  really gets a couple of them is fireworks, but
• 1:03:46
  for the most part for the wind and that kind
• 1:03:50
  of stuff, they usually are right to be fair with
• 1:03:53
  the wind and rain and stuff like that. You have
• 1:03:57
  how many cats too? Five, five. There we go. Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah. Five. Yeah. We've got, uh, we've got two
• 1:04:03
  tuxedos, um, flash and stitch. They're, they're
• 1:04:06
  twins. It came from the same, same litter. Uh,
• 1:04:09
  we've got a rag doll called Cammie. uh, got a
• 1:04:11
  turtle shell called stars who was a rescue and
• 1:04:14
  we've got a little black cat called, uh, angel.
• 1:04:17
  That's awesome. I love that. When I first met
• 1:04:19
  my wife, she had like five or six cats. And then
• 1:04:22
  as time went by, cause she used to like, uh,
• 1:04:25
  share a house with, uh, with her best friend
• 1:04:27
  and they had a lot more room in that particular
• 1:04:31
  house to have all those cats. But as time went
• 1:04:34
  by, as they sold their house and me and my wife
• 1:04:36
  got our own house, my wife was like, Nope, we're
• 1:04:39
  going to downsize on cats. Two tops, because
• 1:04:42
  the litter boxes, I mean, the litter boxes and
• 1:04:44
  then the cleaning of the boxes itself is just
• 1:04:46
  insane that you got to do. Yeah. Definitely got
• 1:04:50
  to keep on top of it. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:53
  It's a lot, but yeah, no, I'm so glad that you
• 1:04:57
  got to visit that seaside town. It really relaxes
• 1:05:00
  my mind to hear you talk about that experience
• 1:05:02
  because it reminds me of the New England vacation
• 1:05:06
  beach town atmosphere happening where where I
• 1:05:10
  live. Recently, I mean, maybe like a year or
• 1:05:14
  two ago to celebrate my wife and I's wedding
• 1:05:16
  anniversary, we went to Old Orchard Beach in
• 1:05:19
  Maine, which we had an Airbnb that was like literally
• 1:05:23
  right on the water. So to be able to walk outside
• 1:05:26
  and be amongst the sand and the very calming
• 1:05:31
  sound of the waves and to take pictures and to
• 1:05:34
  just be in the moment with the smell of the air
• 1:05:37
  there. And Cape Cod, Cape Cod in Massachusetts,
• 1:05:43
  also in New England. The summers that I spent
• 1:05:48
  with my family when I used to live with them
• 1:05:51
  is something that I will carry with me for the
• 1:05:54
  rest of my life because everything from being
• 1:05:56
  at the beach and just looking out into the distance
• 1:05:59
  and just trying to calm your mind from the stresses
• 1:06:01
  of daily life with work and such. And then you
• 1:06:05
  go out to all these restaurants outdoors and
• 1:06:08
  get to experience that same view and you know
• 1:06:11
  you get to do outdoor activities like mini golfing
• 1:06:13
  or just you know taking a nice walk like yeah
• 1:06:15
  yeah seaside town i mean i know it to some it
• 1:06:18
  may seem like a very basic summer vacation kind
• 1:06:20
  of thing but uh the seaside town the beachside
• 1:06:23
  town like any any place that involves a body
• 1:06:26
  of water and maybe you like see some like rich
• 1:06:29
  people beach houses yeah i'm all about it i'm
• 1:06:32
  all about it oh yeah absolutely absolutely yeah
• 1:06:35
  yeah and it is such a different vibe like because
• 1:06:37
  obviously living in land, you don't, I mean,
• 1:06:39
  I'm not, I'm not far from the sea. Like our closest
• 1:06:42
  like seaside town is, is black pool. And that's
• 1:06:44
  like probably about an hour away, give or take.
• 1:06:47
  So I'm, I'm not far from the sea. So, but like
• 1:06:50
  being in land a little bit, it's like, it's a
• 1:06:52
  nice treat to go to like, get that, you know,
• 1:06:54
  that sea air and just be, yeah, it's, it's nice,
• 1:06:57
  you know, again, yeah, just look at the rich
• 1:06:59
  people. How is it be like, What do I need to
• 1:07:02
  do to get that house? Like how much money do
• 1:07:04
  I need to make to earn that house? Lots, lots,
• 1:07:11
  especially nowadays. Oh, absolutely. For sure.
• 1:07:15
  For sure. Yeah. I've always had this fantasy
• 1:07:17
  of like, Oh, like maybe like I'll be rich enough
• 1:07:20
  to get a beach house on Cape Cod. And then if
• 1:07:22
  my mom wants to go on summer vacation and I'm
• 1:07:24
  at work somewhere, I could be like, yeah, mom,
• 1:07:26
  take the keys to the beach house. Go enjoy yourself.
• 1:07:31
  Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's the dream. That's
• 1:07:33
  the goal right there. Oh my God. Well, Zach,
• 1:07:35
  this was a fantastic time. Yes. Thank you for
• 1:07:38
  having me. As we close out here, like I said,
• 1:07:40
  I mean, I was on your Disney Magic podcast recently,
• 1:07:42
  had a great time. Yeah. Yeah. You know, tell
• 1:07:45
  us about that. Maybe tell us about some other
• 1:07:46
  content that you're producing at the moment.
• 1:07:48
  What are you up to? Yeah, grand. Okay. So, yeah,
• 1:07:52
  my, my, my channel is Zach's Enchanted S Page.
• 1:07:55
  You can find me there. I do like travel, see,
• 1:07:57
  I do like travel vlogs and Disney content over
• 1:08:00
  there. So, and then I also have my podcast. John
• 1:08:03
  was on the Disney Magic podcast where we take
• 1:08:05
  a topic and we kind of like tune in on that.
• 1:08:08
  a little bit and like, okay, well, John was on
• 1:08:10
  about the Renaissance and things like that of
• 1:08:12
  like, you know, 1989 to 1999, that big period
• 1:08:16
  of like Disney, Disney movie and things like
• 1:08:18
  that. We talk about the parks, we talk about
• 1:08:20
  movies, we talk about like theories and concepts.
• 1:08:24
  we take any, any kind of Disney, any kind of
• 1:08:27
  like Disney topic and like really hone in on
• 1:08:29
  that. So yeah, come and check, check me out on
• 1:08:32
  there. And if you want to see like some series
• 1:08:33
  as well, like travel series or like just random
• 1:08:36
  days out and things that I've been doing, you
• 1:08:39
  can check out the channel. It's all together.
• 1:08:40
  It's all, it's all on like one channel as X Enchanted
• 1:08:43
  Escapades. Yeah. So yeah, thank, thank you for
• 1:08:47
  having me, John. It's, it's been a, it's been
• 1:08:48
  a pleasure. It's been, it's been awesome. It's
• 1:08:50
  been a while since I've been a guest on a podcast.
• 1:08:52
  So hope it's been a long time. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:55
  it's been, it's been amazing. Thank you for having
• 1:08:56
  me, man. Of course, of course. Yeah. It's definitely
• 1:08:59
  check out Zach on YouTube. What are some of the
• 1:09:01
  interesting places that you've traveled to that
• 1:09:03
  you've logged about? So every time I go to a
• 1:09:05
  Disney, every time I go anywhere, so Calm Walls
• 1:09:08
  on there currently that's currently uploading.
• 1:09:10
  I did a few videos down like a little mini series
• 1:09:13
  there. I did my series when I went to California
• 1:09:16
  last year and Disney World the year before. Where
• 1:09:20
  you travel it can be yeah, I mean mainly I mean
• 1:09:23
  I mean, California last year was like California
• 1:09:27
  in general. It was like Los Angeles. And I went
• 1:09:30
  to Knutsbury farm, went to, I did like a day
• 1:09:34
  in Hollywood, like a guided tour in Hollywood.
• 1:09:36
  That was a lot of fun. Like saw all like the
• 1:09:38
  highlights of like Hollywood, like Venice beach
• 1:09:40
  and Santa Monica and the walk of fame, ground
• 1:09:44
  was Chinese theater, all that kind of stuff,
• 1:09:46
  the Hollywood sign, all that kind of stuff. So
• 1:09:47
  that's all on there. Disney world was like my
• 1:09:52
  first trip. over there. It was for my 30th birthday.
• 1:09:55
  Um, so I got in Florida. Yeah. Yeah. So I got
• 1:09:58
  to go back there a few, a couple of years ago.
• 1:10:01
  Um, Calm what there's some calm all vlogs come
• 1:10:04
  in. I've got two currently out. There's another
• 1:10:06
  one coming out next week Well, you know, well
• 1:10:09
  whenever this comes out where there is one more
• 1:10:11
  one more video to come and yeah So there's gonna
• 1:10:14
  be a lot of travel series, you know days out
• 1:10:16
  kind of videos like that So anywhere that I go
• 1:10:18
  I take my cat take my camera and just share with
• 1:10:21
  you guys what what we do where we go and things
• 1:10:24
  like that So yeah, mainly Disney related but
• 1:10:27
  like other you know other little places as well
• 1:10:30
  that I think called peak interest to some people.
• 1:10:33
  So yeah, I love that. I'm way overdue for a Disney
• 1:10:36
  World trip. Maybe this is partially an indication
• 1:10:39
  of how expensive it is to go there, but absolutely.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My, uh, the last time I was
• 1:10:45
  there was the summer of 2000 and I must've been
• 1:10:48
  eight or nine years old. Uh, yes, you are very
• 1:10:52
  much do a trip. Absolutely. And I'm sure it's
• 1:10:55
  changed a lot since then. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I
• 1:10:58
  mean, the last time I went apart from 24, what
• 1:11:00
  I went was 2011, I was 16 and I went back in
• 1:11:04
  24 and I was like, wow, this is, it's a weird,
• 1:11:08
  it was a weird feeling because it was, it was
• 1:11:09
  so different, but it was also so familiar. Like,
• 1:11:14
  like it was, it was kind of, it was kind of crazy,
• 1:11:16
  but yeah, it's, it's changed a lot since 2000,
• 1:11:19
  2011, that kind of stuff. So yeah, definitely
• 1:11:21
  do a trip. Changed so much in terms of what the
• 1:11:24
  rides, the people, the rides. Yeah, the rides,
• 1:11:28
  the, you know, the parks and things like that.
• 1:11:31
  Um, there's new, you know, the new hotels open,
• 1:11:33
  there's new rises, new lands have opened, you
• 1:11:37
  know, re -themes of rides and things like that.
• 1:11:39
  So yeah, definitely. Uh, I mean, I'll, I'll,
• 1:11:42
  I'll, you know, mainly nine times out of 10,
• 1:11:44
  all for the better. I mean, there's some rides
• 1:11:46
  that I wish was still there. Um, but you know,
• 1:11:49
  you know, they've rethemed a couple and they've,
• 1:11:52
  they've changed some out and they've brought,
• 1:11:54
  you know, they've brought new ones in, took out
• 1:11:56
  some old ones, but, you know, the packs are ever
• 1:11:58
  changing. So it's always, it's always good to
• 1:12:01
  see the direction they're going to go for the
• 1:12:03
  most part. And yeah. What's one, what's one ride
• 1:12:06
  that, that is that it remains that has been there
• 1:12:09
  for the past 25, 26 years. Ooh. Um, let me think.
• 1:12:15
  Disney World. Teacups. Teacups. Yeah. I mean,
• 1:12:18
  Magic Kingdom teacups. You've got, what else
• 1:12:21
  would you have there? Do they still have like
• 1:12:23
  Hall of Presidents? Hall of Presidents is still
• 1:12:25
  there. Yeah. Haunted Mansion still there. Pirates
• 1:12:28
  of the Caribbean. The People Mover, all that
• 1:12:32
  kind of stuff. All the good rides are still there
• 1:12:33
  for the most part. What is the People Mover?
• 1:12:35
  What? Oh, the people move. It's like the best
• 1:12:37
  ride, John. It's so good. It's it's in Tomorrowland.
• 1:12:40
  It's like it's like a little like a little train
• 1:12:42
  and it just takes you around like the perimeter
• 1:12:44
  of Tomorrowland, which is like their future world,
• 1:12:47
  like kind of like area takes you inside space
• 1:12:50
  mountain. And it's so, so much fun. It's so cool.
• 1:12:53
  Just a nice chill ride. Yeah. Highly recommend
• 1:12:55
  the people mover is my favorite attraction in
• 1:12:58
  the it's the first ride I always ride when I
• 1:13:00
  go to Magic Kingdom, because it was the first
• 1:13:02
  ride we rode when we went on our family vacay.
• 1:13:04
  in 2011. So like every time I go, I've got to
• 1:13:08
  ride it. So every time. Yeah. Tomorrowland is
• 1:13:10
  that part of both Disney world and Disneyland
• 1:13:12
  or is that only like one of the parks? Yes. It
• 1:13:14
  is part of both of them, but Magic Kingdoms is
• 1:13:17
  better currently because the one in Disneyland
• 1:13:19
  is It's not in good shape. Yeah. From what I
• 1:13:23
  heard about Disneyland, it does seem to have
• 1:13:25
  a very antiquey 50s, 60s quality. And maybe it
• 1:13:28
  hasn't kept up with the times as much as Disney
• 1:13:31
  world. Is that what I'm getting? Yeah. So Disney
• 1:13:34
  worlds is very like retro futurism, kind of like
• 1:13:37
  the, like the 1950s of what they thought the
• 1:13:40
  future was going to look like. They tried that
• 1:13:42
  at Disney world and it just wasn't kept at Disneyland.
• 1:13:45
  So it just, it just wasn't kept on top of. So
• 1:13:47
  they used to have a people mover track and it
• 1:13:50
  just... it's just not there anymore. And the
• 1:13:53
  tracks just in so much disrepair, like you just,
• 1:13:56
  it's not nice to look at. It's not, there's not
• 1:14:00
  really a whole lot there. There's probably like
• 1:14:02
  three rides in the whole land. And it's just,
• 1:14:06
  Okay. Yeah. It's, it's, it's there and there's
• 1:14:09
  not much else you can do with it because the
• 1:14:11
  way Disneyland's built, it's all kind of like
• 1:14:13
  built on top of each other because it's such
• 1:14:14
  a small space. So they have to completely tear
• 1:14:18
  down the whole of Tomorrowland to like rebuild
• 1:14:20
  it. So yeah, it's, it's a, it's a big task, a
• 1:14:23
  lot of money that Disney don't want to spend.
• 1:14:27
  So yeah, if there's anything we know about Disney,
• 1:14:30
  they want to make a lot of money and not spend
• 1:14:31
  a lot of that. Absolutely. Nail on the head right
• 1:14:35
  there. Absolutely. Let's just keep it all. Let's
• 1:14:38
  not invest it in any new ride experiences or
• 1:14:42
  much original content. Let's just keep it. Let's
• 1:14:46
  just make really bad live action movies with,
• 1:14:49
  you know, The Rock with a spirit Halloween wig
• 1:14:52
  and let's just call it. Let's have the rock and
• 1:14:56
  a bad wig with the live action Moana. Let's go.
• 1:15:00
  Let's do it. Let's go. Oh, man. This was awesome.
• 1:15:04
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