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Brock Huard on Leadership, Empathy, and Family First · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad's show.
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: Hey everybody, this is Casey Jaycox and welcome to season five.
• 0:17
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• 0:19
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• 0:33
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• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Now let's get to today's episode with Casey Jaycox.
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: Well, hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox.
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: We're in season five.
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: For those who are seeing us on video, hello For those of us in your car listening.
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: Appreciate your continued support.
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: Hard to believe we're almost on 270-something dads we've interviewed, and our next guest is a beauty.
• 1:24
  Speaker 3: He's a South Puget Sound legend.
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: He's a Viking, he's a Husky, he's a Seahawk, he's a Colt Probably missing a few things.
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: His dad's in the Central Washington Hall of Fame where I'm with him as a team, not there as an individual yet.
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: But he's also the host of the Brock and Salk Show.
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: He does Fox work.
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: He does college football work.
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: I show he does Fox work.
• 1:46
  Speaker 3: He does college football work.
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: I actually played football against him in a jamboree at the Mighty Spark Stadium.
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: But why we have him on is none of those reasons.
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: We're going to talk to Brock here today about Brock the dad and how he's working hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his households, Without further ado.
• 1:57
  Speaker 3: Mr Heward, welcome to the Quarterback Catcast.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Wow, that was a lot of stuff right there, a lot of memories.
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember that jamboree.
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: You said you were a Charger.
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: Mighty Kentridge Charger.
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: Mighty Kentridge Charger back in the day.
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that had been 93-ish.
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 93, 94.
• 2:18
  Speaker 4: Long time ago, man, Many, as I like to say to the kids last century, when I played so yep, a long, long time ago.
• 2:25
  Speaker 3: Actually, that day was the day that shaped pretty much my life, who I am today.
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: I got injured against the mighty Fife Trojans.
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: You know what is so funny, man?
• 2:34
  Speaker 4: I actually remember that that was going into my junior year, my first year as a starter Puyallup only three-year high school Sophomore year.
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: I played tight end Darren Erath, the great Western Washington All-American and champion.
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: Up there was a QB, and that was my first game with contact being a quarterback at the high school level.
• 2:51
  Speaker 4: And I remember like we had a short yardage situation.
• 2:54
  Speaker 4: I told the old line coach, bill Wernofsky, I said just let me run the sneak Right.
• 2:58
  Speaker 4: And I run a sneak and I get just smashed.
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: I mean I get hit like my son.
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: I watched Titus, my son, over the weekend get absolutely obliterated and smashed at the high school level for the first time and it brought back flashbacks to that.
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, this is a physical game, man, this is a gritty, really tough physical game.
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: And you have that first little moment of oh wow, yeah, I'm seeing some stars and that was a little bit different.
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe I can't just run over and through everybody like I did in junior high.
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'd actually remember that jamboree on a beautiful day at Spark Stadium pretty well myself, yeah, Darren Erathman.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: So I played against Darren.
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: I played at Central and Erath's a fantastic quarterback.
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: I got to meet him a couple of times, my actually center in high school.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Chris Dos, if you're listening.
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: Dros was his center and, uh, I remember just hanging out with you a couple of times.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: We'd go up to Western and um, so bummed they have their football program taken away.
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: What a shamble, Horrible but a good dad too, by the way.
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: I know he loves his kids and excited, uh, excited, to do this because, as you know, being a dad like okay, that's all fun, that's what you did.
• 4:02
  Speaker 4: That's so long ago.
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 4:03
  Speaker 4: You know it's, it's now.
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: How are you building and growing your next in line?
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: How are you pouring into them so they can do so much more than you ever did?
• 4:13
  Speaker 4: And that's certainly it even just dropped and tied us off this morning at school.
• 4:18
  Speaker 4: You know just a word of encouragement to him, which I've given to my girls through their years and just be a light and be a leader.
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: Right, just be a light, be an influencer, be a leader, love others well and just trying to really equip them and train them to do so.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: Gold man.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: Well, those are all things we have control over too, dads at home, and I hope you're taking notes, because I will be taking notes today, brock.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: We always start out each episode, though, with gratitude, so tell me what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, the health well-being of my kiddos.
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had a little health stuff and it's why we've been a little bit delayed in doing this.
• 4:51
  Speaker 4: We'd hoped to do it in August and got an infection and kind of battled through that and you get your health stripped away and taken away from you.
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: It is a reminder when you do get to wake up and you got that breath in your lungs to go do what you love to do and be curious, which I know is a big theme in your life.
• 5:08
  Speaker 4: And yeah, just the health and well-being.
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: And all my kiddos are healthy.
• 5:12
  Speaker 4: Oldest is getting married in June so we're working through marital planning.
• 5:15
  Speaker 4: My number two is at Oklahoma State kicking butt.
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: She started their practices this week After being there for the last three, four, five months really working to the first official practice.
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: She's been at it for a while and then, as I said, titus, in the middle of a football season as a freshman, as a backup on the varsity, playing on the JV and just all that.
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: He's walking through and going through and even enduring a couple shots to his body that left him with a cut neck and remember the old days like the scratches on your back from your shoulder pads and yeah, just looking at him the other day, like, yeah, sunday morning before church looking like yep, I remember waking up from games and feeling exactly what you're feeling right now.
• 5:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's so good.
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: Well, what I'm grateful for is so I got a son in college.
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: He's playing golf down at Southern Oregon University and he qualified for his first like kind of big event this past week and we, my wife and I, were lucky enough to.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: We actually watched the football game this weekend and we watched him play in his Monday in his event and he played fantastic.
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: For for him he was shot two over.
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: He was in tight for six on day one and day two he he played great.
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: But on the last way this freak thing happened.
• 6:25
  Speaker 3: He's too over.
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: Going to the last hole Would have been top 10.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: He plugs the ball in the bunker, blows up on the green chips, back he's got a three-footer for bogey, full 360 lip out.
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: So now he just taps in for five from an inch, like he said.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: He barely tapped it.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: It hit like the freakiest thing ever.
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: It hits the bottom of the cup and bounces straight out, lands on the edge.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: So we went from a tap in four to a six on his last hole.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: College golf in his round, the college of Idaho comes up to me, goes dude.
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: I've never seen that happen in my entire golf.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: He said what the F to my son.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: Actually my son's like yeah, what the F?
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: And it was such a awesome moment last night because around mindset and the words we say, say to ourselves and self-talk and like reminding him that you can't change what happened.
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: And then even last night he was a little hot and I said you got until 1201 to to to get it out.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: But then tomorrow the sun's coming up and you know God, the universe, the golf courses, they don't care.
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: And uh, he was.
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: It was such a cool moment to hear, like see him last night get rid of it and then this morning he's like Dad, thanks so much.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: New day, no more negative talk.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: What a great learning lesson.
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: We're going to build on this together.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: What year is he?
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: He's a freshman.
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow, he's a freshman.
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, so he's just starting this whole fun journey at the collegiate level too.
• 7:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 7:41
  Speaker 4: And you do realize, right as you go through this, and especially now with our final one in the home with number three and looking back at the things done with number one and said to number two and hopefully learned by three, just how important those words are, that encouragement is.
• 7:59
  Speaker 4: Shot a note to my Macy over the weekend and I heard someone say this and I think this was really really good, because I think it's easy as a dad, as a mom, as a parent, to say I'm so proud of you, I'm so proud of you, and that's awesome and I don't minimize that at all.
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: But the flip of the switch was to really encourage your kid to be proud of themselves.
• 8:19
  Speaker 4: You should be so proud of yourself and what you're doing, right, you should be so proud of the way that you played.
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: It's one thing to hear and maybe both is actually the peanut butter and jelly to it Like, hey, I'm proud of you, you know that, I love you.
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: You should be really proud of what you're doing, how you're competing and how much you're learning and growing and developing, and to really just kind of double whammy that Because the I'm proud of you is like me, it's still about me, the dad and and me the times, unfortunately, the performance side of it and the result side of it and all that stuff.
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just proud and I and it's funny, casey I said to Titus he had his first real rough game Saturday, threw a couple of picks for the first time in his life and got beat up, as I said, and I think those two things were, as you know, as a quarterback kind of play, sometimes together when you're just getting the snot literally knocked out of your nose.
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: I said to him on the couch as we were watching the replay on Huddle.
• 9:12
  Speaker 4: I said hey, man, honest question Do you think I'm more proud of you in these other four games that you played, with the touchdowns and wins, or do you think I'm more proud of you in this game with the touchdowns and wins?
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: Or do you think I'm more proud of you in this game?
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: And he's like well, you're probably more proud of the success and the wins and the touchdowns.
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, actually I'm not.
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: I am way more proud of you sticking to it, of spatulaing yourself off the ground, of continuing to stand strong in there amidst a storm and a beating Not even close, like way more proud of that, because I know how much more beneficial.
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: That is, whether you want to hear this or not, how much more beneficial it is to you as a person, your character, your competitor, all of that stuff moving it forward.
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: So so many cool lessons and pretty good timing that you and I are hooking up at a time where all of this right now is going on in our lives.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, so so true, man.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you and I both know adversity.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: You know I think it's a Socrates quote adversity is, I mean judgment, I mean true character is judgment faced with adversity.
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: And when you go through it you don't want to go through it.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: But like every moment of adversity I've been through my life, there's been just gold that's came out of it.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: When I stopped back and reflect and I always joke with my kids I'm like hey, dad's got zero eligibility left.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: Like I'm washed up, I got zero and so I can teach you and show you where I sucked and failed and struggled to help you not have to go through the same thing.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: But this has got to be your idea, not mine, um, and so I like, I think like forming those things and like just sprinkling a little bit of you know one liners and then spark their curiosity.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: And I usually before I get an answer, I'll ask another question back to them to kind of keep the conversation going.
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: But well, cool.
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: Well, you've mentioned the squad briefly to talk about maybe each, each child a bit more and then maybe talk talk to us a little bit about how you and your wife met.
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: Yep, stalked my wife Molly since our freshman year of college when we were in the training room together and I looked over and I was like wow, that's pretty awesome.
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: She came into the University of Washington as a basketball player and I as a football player and took a little while, took a good year plus before we started dating and then got married right at the end of school, got engaged September of my final year, my fourth year in school.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: We got married at the end of May of both of our senior years, a month after I had gotten drafted to the Seahawks.
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: And, yeah, man, over 25 years we have been together.
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: So started young, waited a couple years before having our first Haley, who is going to graduate from Montana here in December and, as I said, get married in June to a Montana cowboy, a walk-on defensive, end up there, hardworking, small town, gritty, tough, a neat kid named Dylan.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: So we'll be having a son-in-law, which will be a little unique before I hit 50.
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: But that's awesome and really excited for her and their journey.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: Macy is number two.
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: Macy, as I said, is a basketball player.
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: Her and Big Sis played together for a year at Montana, went up there, learned a lot.
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: It was an amazing year.
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: Those two grew so close together.
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: We kind of knew all the way along, I think, in her mind like I want to play at the highest level, went into the portal and had some doors open.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: And to play at the highest level, went into the portal and had some doors open and ultimately Oklahoma State was just a great, great, fit, hardworking, gritty, tough, no nonsense.
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: And actually just got a note from the coach saying they have this technology in basketball, casey, that tracks every shot.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: It's called Shot Tracker.
• 12:40
  Speaker 4: And they have all the big programs in college basketball have these little devices in the ball and on their shoe and in the rim that measures every shot you take um, any time of day, any practice, any on your own.
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: And she, um head coach, said this at her opening press conference that Macy set, uh, or right now, in the whole country, a shot tracker sends out reports and they're like yep, the number one shot maker in all of college basketball was that psychopath who just shoots and shoots and shoots and can't get enough of it.
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: So she just wired that way and just a worker bee, so it'll be fun.
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: She's got three years to play there and starting that journey.
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: And then Titus is a freshman, ninth grader.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: We had a really tough miscarriage between Macy and Titus.
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: Uh, I think we always hoped to kind of have four and had a tough one and took a little time.
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: So there's about a four or five year age gap between those two and and we'll have Titus three more years here, four more years in the nest, before he'll, uh, fly out as well and, yeah, but as a freshman at, uh, at Valor Christian.
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, kind of neat.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: That's the, the quick little bios on all of them, all uniquely wired, all very, very different, um, in their own fun, unique ways and and, uh, you know, just like adversity, there's adversity in parenting.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: You learn an awful lot about what to do, what not to do, who you are, who you're not, how you need to grow and, um, really, really you know you said gratitude, really blessed to have those three.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no manual.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: There's definitely no manual for parenting and there's no like hey, we learn on the way.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: And sometimes people like think I have this podcast for dads, like I'm getting free therapy out of every episode with with that.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: So, uh, that's like the blessing I get, where if I come in curious and I learned from their dad and I can check myself that, check the ego, the door of my, hmm.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: And I think about like that's what we as quarterbacks is the uncle Rico moment.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Everybody, when we watch film, you can't hide.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: You cannot hide from your shenanigans and you know our parents can't understand, they can get mad about this.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Someone said Jaycox, you suck, you know like that, but like it is what it is.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: And so I think owning these things is such a gift that you can you really kind of just let yourself go and realize that the perfect does not exist.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: No, you know.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Nope, not as a competitor, not as a player.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Sports teach you so much of that.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I think why it's been such a valuable tool in your life and it sounds like your kids lives as well.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: And you know, molly will say to me on occasion, and especially if we get a little off kilter and off balance, is my gosh, is sports are idle.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Is this what our whole life is around?
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: And you got to make sure that it is not.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: It is a great teaching tool, it is a great life lesson tool.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: There's no question about it.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I think it's why college student athletes are so revered in the employment world, because those employers know wow, you know, look at the balance and look at the competition and look at the grit and look at the sacrifice and all of those things that go into, um, you know, being a student athlete at the high school level, junior high, heck all of the levels.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: But then, especially when you get to the highest of levels, it's uh yeah it is quite a quite a balance, for sure.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I like rewinding back the time and I love asking my guests to talk about what was life like growing up for you with, you know, two other brothers stud quarterbacks.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I remember watching your brother Damon as a ninth grader.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I remember they played Kentridge and beat him by like a thousand and I saw a guy throw a ball that seemed like a hundred yards.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: It was like, oh my God, like I couldn't even dream of throwing it that far, even dream of throwing it that far.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Um, but talk about what was life like growing up for you and, and, and maybe the core lessons that that your mom and dad taught you that now you're a you use, now that you're a father.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty simple.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: You know, as I, as I look back at it now, and the complexities of all that we got going in our lives with my wife's business and my different work through the years and all of it pretty, pretty neat and pretty simple.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: A little 1200 foot rambler that we go back to my parents are still there and I don't know how we all fit in there.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You know we have one bathroom.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: For a lot of years getting ready for school and poor mom tried to, you know, find a way to get in and out before the boys, you know, did our thing in there and and you know, just mom and dad, school teachers, you know, just really really simple, hardworking, um, you know my first time Casey on an airplane was my first recruiting trip, my senior year.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: You know we got in the minivan and we drove to a Rose bowl and we drove to, you know, uncle Pete and Pocatello and in Lincoln, nebraska, and you know just.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: But you know, compare and contrast kind of the lifestyle and the life that we lead now versus then.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: I think Macy was on a airplane when she was eight to go play in some, you know, soccer tournament in Dallas, like, and I reminded her of that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Like you know how crazy this is my first time.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I was 18, senior year of high school, going on a recruiting trip.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, very, very simple, very hardworking.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Dad was a coach Hall of Fame coach.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Mom was a school teacher and educator.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Our house was an open door that's the other thing.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: That's amazing is like anybody, anytime could just come knocking and come in and felt like they were at home.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Friday nights were amazing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: After high school football games.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: It was the place everybody came and wanted to be and there's a big potluck meals and we rewatched the game and Bryce Dilley was filming it and screaming up in the booth, you know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And my dad built quite a powerhouse there and he didn't do it through, at times, the most amazing talent.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: He did it through an unbelievable amount of hard work.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: He would lose 20 to 30 pounds every season.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I remember watching the work ethic.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: He'd be up in the little living room all night watching tape.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: He was a note taker.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: He was meticulous.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: He had these little plastic overlays that he put on his sheets.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: As I look at my boards now that I do for my job, like, oh my gosh, it's all organized, it's all like this, and he had a typewriter that his father-in-law had given to him and he hand typed so much stuff and game plan.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: He was a meticulous worker and looking back at that, there's no question the imprint that put on Damon, put on me, put on Luke, the football was obviously what we knew.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: You know what we were around Going to every practice.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: You know we'd get the hand-me-down pads.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: We had a little shed in the back that was our locker room that we would go in and put the pads on.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: The amount of play the imaginative play as a kid, you know, for me was just.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, that was my 10,000 hours.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: It was in the gym in the backyard wearing the gear.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: You know the greatest treat we had.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: We were poor, um, you know lower middle-class hand-me-down.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: You know value.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Village milk was our biggest resource run out of food by the end of the month many of those years.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: But we didn't know any of that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: What we knew is my dad had the keys to the gym and that was like the biggest deal.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: He'd go do all his shoulder pad inventory and gear inventory and do his work and we'd be in there shooting hoops and throwing and lifting weights and man, we even had the swimming pool at Puyallup High School.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Can you believe it?
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Like it was, that was our Disneyland, that was our playground and that's where the formation of so much of the competitive spirit, so much of the work ethic, so much of just the three boys going at it in the gym and in the backyard, there's no question kind of equipped and built us for our future paths.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Wow, what tell me?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: What um uh subjects your mom and dad taught.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Oh, my dad was, uh, your PE.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: You know your petroleum engineering degree he was.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: It was a PE, it was a weight room, but he was also a world class driver's ed teacher.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Before you know, it was hijacked by all of these other you know driver's ed that used to be in the school.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And honest to God, casey, I, when I go back to Puyallup or I'll run into people to be in the school.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: And honest to god, casey I, when I go back to pialup or I'll run into people.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: It obviously is dad the football coach.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: But if it's happened once, it's happened a hundred times.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: I had your dad for driver's ed.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Your dad was the most amazing and he was and he he was so good that he had to teach the english as second language.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: So imagine teaching driver's ed to people that don't speak english.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Like that tells you what kind of teacher and coach he was.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: So he's like come with a DSA, a slowdown.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, he had to have the break on his side, you know like uh truly, I mean, but I think he loved it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: I think it was like looking back.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Teaching and equipping football players is just like teaching equipping in the weight room and he was great at that and the strength and conditioning worked at it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: You know we were doing plyometrics in Nebraska weight training stuff before others were doing it, and uh, and he was a great driver's ed teacher.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: On top of that, mom was a resource teacher.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Um worked with at first a lot of the most difficult kids and special needs and and then worked her way up to being pretty, um, pretty revered in the district of you know kind of working in the resource community.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Wow, true, I cannot believe.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking back to the days of driver's ed, like I at Kentridge high school.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: This is back in 90,.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: My, when I got there in 92, I took driver's ed, we had a smoker's cage out back.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I had to go past the smoking cage.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: True story.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody Like you, like you full on.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: It was like a rat.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: People would be lighting up darts and on the way to you know, flicking ashes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I'm dodging ashes and I go get in the dodge dart.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Talk about that, for for your first whip, I just that's kent's finest right there.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm here.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: We didn't have a smoking cage.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: You know we have plyometric boxes and weights and squat racks, so you guys had smoking cage kentridge.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Hence Hence the record in the high school record.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: There we go.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I, for the record, never entered the smoking cage.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Everybody my dad might've done it, but I did not.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Now are mom and dad still with us.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, mom and dad's still with us.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Dad's health's getting a little tough, body more, you know, just orthopedically, just a mess New hip, new knees, neck fusions, all this stuff.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I'm going to probably be staring down in 20 or 30 years.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Hopefully we can put it off to then.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: So he's having a harder time getting around moms and great health and, yeah, great grandparents.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: They were just with Luke down at USC, my younger brother's a QB coach for the Trojans and they were looking after, looking after their two granddaughters down there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: We've got three Damon's got three that are all grown up and, you know, been just dedicated, loved watching and supporting the kids through all of their travels as well.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Wow, what a blessing man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Well, my pops, I lost my dad December 29, 2021.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: In season three, I dedicated every episode to him.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: In season three, I dedicated every episode to him and he was my dad, was like the a little bit of Chris Farley, a little bit of like Will Ferrell, but not as tall, but he could drop the biggest GD bombs at me.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: That would like freak me out but like make me laugh hysterically when I'd get in trouble.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: But he, rocky, never missed a game, ever.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I remember my senior year we played in Rocky mountain and they were like top ranked team nai.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Back then we were naid2.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Like going through that transition and, uh, this my kind of how my dad even afforded to get there.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, made it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I think of kitten is our national championship run year would have been my redshirt freshman year.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: We're taking off on a charter jet out of Yakima.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: The plane's all white and I'm like, oh hell, no, I'm not getting on this thing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: This is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And out of nowhere, my pop shows up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like dad, what, what, what do you?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: What do you hear?
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: He's like I'm coming to the game.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like how did you get on?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Is like the coach has asked me on tickets.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: We got ticket.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, but I'm not playing, dad, I'm signaling.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: He's like yeah, I know, but I want to watch you warm up and so like, after the game of dad said man, he had a great game.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like dad, I I got in for four snaps at the end, I know, but you were like 80 completion and warm-ups you know, but it's like that I remember that stuff and I think we're about the same age.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I'm 48 and, yep, uh, I, just I.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: That is what, to me, is so important and I think, no matter what job you have, if you're doing what Brock's doing, do what I'm doing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: You're a bus driver, you're a stay at home dad, like the gift to being present is like something I do not take for granted or lightly, and um, and like you said you're, you're about health.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Like I look every morning and I do my gratitude work, I say God, thanks for waking me up.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Today I'm breathing day, I got a chance to do something.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yep, you know, and I think that question.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I hope that I hope my kids pick up on that, on why they're under my roof and our roof, my wife, carrie but I would say that word you just said is such a critical one.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: And, um, you know, if my wife were in the room listening to some of this, she knows all of my failures as a parent as well and you know how busy I am running around and you know I did this speaking engagement a couple years ago, casey, and I really enjoy doing those when there's a margin for it to businesses and sales teams and everything else.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: And one of the guys at the end asked me a great question and he was just like how do you do it?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: How do you balance being a dad with you know what you love doing and on the road?
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: And I don't balance it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Well, I did not have a good answer for him.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I said I, you know I'm feeling my wife on my shoulder here.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: You know, like I, I don't have a the book on that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not here to speak about that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Uh, achievement, hard work, dedication, sacrifice, life stories, life lessons I can pour all of that into you.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I don't have a great answer than that, other than what you just said right there, which my wife, 25 years and through so many of these years as a parent, has reinforced so strongly and what she is so gifted, that and that is to be present.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I remember a couple of times during some tough teen years with our daughters she'd be like just they don't need your counsel, they don't need your help, they need you to be present.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Just go lay on the bed next to them, just go in there, without any motive.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: You want to be Mr Fixer, you think you're, mr Coach, you think you got Mr Answers Like that's not what they need right now.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Just be present and that would be, if anything in our time here together and to the dads that take this in, that would.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And present without present, with, without like your wishlist, without restrictions.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Present, just be available.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not out of performance, not out of checking a box, not because it's the right thing to do, not because you're looking for some fanfare, some reward from it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Truly right to just be there and be present with your kids and with these things and with all of their busyness, craziness, of how fast life comes at them, casey, faster than it ever did for you and I at 12, 14, 16, 20.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: That ability to just stop and be present is more critical than anything.
• 27:29
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• 27:31
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• 27:35
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• 27:40
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• 27:44
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• 27:47
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• 27:58
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• 28:12
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• 28:20
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• 28:24
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• 28:27
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• 28:29
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• 28:34
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• 28:44
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• 28:51
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• 28:58
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• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Now let's get back to the podcast.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, your, your wife's a saint and just smart.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I think most wives are.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, we don't tell any other dad this, but there are smarter species in us Rock and tougher, oh my God, a hundred percent tougher species than us rock and tougher.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, 100.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: A lot tougher, tougher.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I um, I don't think they'd ever wear the red jersey.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: They would not.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: No, you know.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: No, they'd probably play and they'd probably like compete with joe nash back in the day I've heard it said that if men had to give birth and go through that whole process, there'd be there'd have been one generation.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It would have died out at adam, like it'd been done so you know well, I got an epidural just watching my wife give birth.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: So oh, I think I fainted the first epidural.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Like that needle was like that, like what?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: yeah, and the dude who did it look like he looked like frankenstein, our guy.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like bro you, that you look like the grim reaper.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Do not get that boy from me and her um.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: So I want to go back to your mom real quick.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: So your mom, in a household full of boys, your dad's coaching.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: He had an unbelievable high school coaching record, one of the winningest coaches in the state of Washington, losing 20, 30 pounds.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Like the patience she must've had.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Like talk about, like what, what lessons of patience maybe you took from your mom that maybe you've shared with your kids?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just patience and and sacrifice, right, I mean just having a real servant heart.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Like this is.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: This is what we're going to do.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Um, the opening game this year of my season, casey, I was still coming back from this infection, didn't know if I'd be able to do the opening weekend and we had a Thursday, saturday and that Thursday game was North Carolina.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Minnesota Got delayed, it was all kind of haywire and everything else.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: But in the third quarter, qb for North Carolina I don't know if you saw any of this or remembered any of this.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: His name is Max Johnson.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: He's the son of Brad Johnson, great lineage and everything else.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Started at LSU and then went to A&M and just been through dysfunction I mean just Jimbo and Orgeron and SEC program, just dysfunctional and finally landed at North Carolina and was going to be the starter and was playing as QB coach.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: A guy named Clyde Christensen, who I was with in Indianapolis, you know, won a Superbowl with Brady, won a Superbowl with Peyton Manning, tony Dungy, disciple, man of God, unbelievable faith, just our absolute rock.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: And what a blessing for Max to have here in his fifth year of this crazy, you know quarterback journey, to have this stability.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: And the third quarter has the most horrific injury.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Just gets high, high load.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Could tell right away like this is not, this is not good and try to get up, couldn't.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Cart comes out and we show brad and his wife in the stands and um, and actually his wife, um, you know, had kind of got in this that posture of her hands on her face.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: And I remember a picture that my uncle took of my mom at the foster high school days when my dad was starting, and it was that same look of despair, like oh my gosh, this is so hard.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: And in that moment, man, I just I just like filter down and just going to be real, I actually got choked up on the air, like I gotta be honest, like this is hard and it's hard, and I kind of went down the road of a quarterback mom that people don't think about, quarterback mom and the burden and what they carry and what they have to hear and how they empathize in ways that us men many times don't and can't and feel things that we don't and can't.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: And yeah, man, I just totally let my guard down and it was one of those like, should I do this, should I not do this?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: But that picture just did it click back to my mom from those years, all of those times, and getting in Husky stadium at the end of my career when it was tough and we were not good, and I'm getting booed and she's hearing things and finally her and aunt bonnie can't sit in the stands like they couldn't even go in the stadium.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: You know, didn't want to hear any of that anymore.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, the sacrifice and the in, just the empathy that moms have and certainly my mom is a three-time qb mom and the coach's wife, um, a whole bunch of empathy pouring out a peg.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I love that man, I love a shout out to you for being vulnerable enough to do that, because that's how we connect with people.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: When I mean, I think social media has this, this perspective of perfection, which doesn't we're all, and I love the more we share about our weaknesses or struggles.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: I think that's how you can drive connection to people and I think life's superpowers that many people leave unlocked are humility, vulnerability and curiosity.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I think the best leaders have them, the best sales teams have them, the best cultures have them.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: But I think about when you said that injury you made me think of back how we started this conversation back at Spark Stadium.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: So my junior year I don't know if you, I don't know if I've ever probably don't know the story, but like I went to UW football camp my June, before my senior year, and I went because my running back at the time, kevin Childs was getting recruited by Boise and UW and I met Dick Baird for the first time, which he would talk to.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You be like Casey, nice to meet you, sir.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh shit, kev, what's up, dog?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like wait a minute, you're the same dude, you're talking jive to him and nor what's going on here and I remember going and I remember playing with receivers that were really really good and the talent around me was really really good and I ended up having a great camp.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And then and they announced these awards and you obviously weren't there because you probably would have won it, not me but uh, they said most outstanding quarterback the camp is.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: And they named my name.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like wait what?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: And they came down.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: He said hey, here's.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: It blew me away because I was like a low big sky guy, central like d2, and they and all of a sudden now I have tickets to all uw games, access the locker room.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Um, they say we're gonna, we want you to send your best game from, from whatever.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be coming to your game, you won't know when.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like wait what?
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: And I remember calling coach marty osborne.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I told him about it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: He's like holy what?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And I'm like this is crazy.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Well, fast forward to spark city in that day.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Um, last play the Jamboree.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I get put back in and and a break in my foot in four spots against Fife and um.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: And I still got the token hey, we'll come walk on.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: And I remember I wanted to go where.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, at least felt like I could play early and Dick Baird called central for me, coach Marty Osborne called central for me.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: But the power of that story that I've shared with my kids and now they're older they're like man, dad, that must've been so hard.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Well, the guy I beat out my junior year now was going to.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: He had to play quarterback and I had to watch Brock.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: He would set our single season passing yardage record.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: He would take us to the state playoffs first time in 20 years and he was named second team all-league quarterback and I had to watch everything.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Best thing that ever happened in my entire life, ever without a doubt.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And I remember after the game three I was, I was telling myself I remember I was like god, I hope he shane throws picks, I hope they suck, I hope the team sucks, because it's all about me and just being a selfish, immature 17 year old.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: And I remember going to coach Marty Osborne in the theme of vulnerability here and I said I am not a captain, I am so embarrassed by my behavior, coach, I just get, get this out.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know Something, said I got to come talk to you and I asked him for help and he goes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Man, I'm so proud of you.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I said let me, did you just hear what I said?
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: How would you be proud of that?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: He goes because you're asking for help Case.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: You know this offense bird?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I want you to go up in the booth and call plays.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: You'll be my offensive coordinator.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: I'm like wait, what it was like?
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: A vacuum sucked all the energy out of me and now I was.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Now I was part of something, I was belonging to something and I now, all of a sudden, I was rooting Shane.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Just that still motivates me to this day.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, others, yeah, I mean there's just as you share that there's about a hundred different.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: You know, moments that flood into my mind as well and again, that's the beauty of that's the beauty of sport, that's the beauty of team, that's the beauty of being in those environments, and and that certainly then translates to the rest of your life, no matter what field you're in.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Right, if you're working in sales man, do you really, do you really care about others or is it really about yourself?
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: You know, if you're working in a school, do you really care about the other great teachers or do you want to try to be the best teacher and undercut other people?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: You know, I mean, it just is a, yeah, that servant, that servant heart you know that sacrificial servant heart.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: It plays.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: It played thousands of years ago, it plays today, it'll play until the end of time, like, do you genuinely truly care about others?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: And it's not easy to do, and in the cauldron of very competitive sport it gets that much harder.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: You know to do Pretty neat, you know.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: But once again our paths cross because I get drafted to the Seahawks and the quarterback is John.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Kitna.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: And his wonderful wife, jen Kitna, is amazing.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: And her and my wife Molly become friends and are friends 25 years later.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: And guess what, when John was struggling a little bit and the team was terrible and I was a third-round pick and I get a chance to start, who leaves me a gift package on the plane?
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Jen Kitna, who writes me a note of encouragement.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: John Kitna Right, I mean just that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: And John, truly, I remember my first start against Carolina and, as I said, we were not a very good team and I remember first series had a couple of completions, it ends and who's the first one on the sidelines?
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: John, like see man, you can do this, like you got this, you know.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Just an unbelievable teammate and why he, you know, stuck around there for 18 years as well.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's just a great selfless leader.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: That'd be probably the other thing as a dad, right To be present, and then probably virtue number two is just as best you can to have that selfless, servant, sacrificial heart.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Gold, gold.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Well, I know I want to be cognizant of time because we've got to get you on a flight here.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So, as we summarize kind of everything we've talked about today, that dads can take, maybe let's call it two or three bullet points or nuggets of wisdom they can take from our conversation to apply in their own lives, to be that ultimate quarterback or leader of their own household.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Brock, tell me what comes to mind.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, present, that was your word and it just absolutely flooded my mind with all of those times as I shared that your wife and your intuitive wife and your saint and your gift and your partner have that wisdom and to listen and to be present, right there, to serve, that's what we are called to do.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: We're called to to die to our wives and to serve.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: And, uh, you know, right along, I think a serving heart is that last one is just sacrifice.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it's really easy and, um, you know, my wife has now come into the office, so she's going to hear me say this I really genuinely think it's easy to just go and work and work, and work, and work, and if especially if you find what you love to do, maybe not swinging a hammer for 10 hours or digging ditches and you know it's certainly some jobs in the in the public school environment.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I mean there's some heavy, heavy lifts but by and large, if you find what you love to do, it's pretty easy to work and work, and work, and work, and work, and work and work.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: For your own rewards, for your own benefit, for your own monies, for all of that stuff, your own name.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: It's a lot harder to sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: A lot harder to do that and you know, finding that balance is still a journey for me, I think a journey for most dads out there, when you do find something that you love to do but be present, serve and sacrifice.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Gold.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I will make sure that's well noted in the show notes For people that want to follow you and learn more about the work you do in the football world or the broadcast world or any other lines of work you got going on.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Maybe I did not share.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Tell me what's the best place people can learn more about Brock, what he's up to today.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Well, the old Twitter.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: I don't do any of the Instagram or Facebook or any of that stuff, but I am at Brock keyword on Twitter and we'll live some of life out there, and then probably just the radio show every morning.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Casey, it's been 15 years, it'll be 16 in March.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: I can't believe it, but that's a place that you know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I know curiosity is a huge part of your life and what you speak to and how you equip others, vulnerability too.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: You know we just put life out there.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Salk and I, after all these years, as we're getting old and, you know, have to wear reading glasses and do all the rest of the stuff.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: we put it all out there.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Put it all out there.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: So that's been an awesome platform to encourage, to try to lead, to try to inspire and empower, and I really do enjoy the personal nature of radio, and morning radio in particular.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah Well, you're fantastic at it, man.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: This is the first time we've met, but I've known your name forever and I feel like I already knew you just from listening to you.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: I got buddies that are huge fans of the show.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: So keep doing what you're doing.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I think people love the perspective you can bring because, hey, you played the sport.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: I love when you nerd out on football X and O, because I'm a football nerd and quarterback nerd.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: It's now time to go into the lightning round.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: When I go random, I'm going to show you the negative hits of taking too many hits in college.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Not bong hits, but football hits.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Knowledge, not bonk football hits.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Your job is to answer them quickly.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: My job is to try to get a giggle out of you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: That first little laugh does not count.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yep, okay, true or false?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: You once lost a 40 yard dash to Dick Baird.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: False.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, true or false?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: You own the UW quarterback record for deadlift at 135 pounds.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: No's false too.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: That's false too.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, there's my first giggle.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: One zero, I'm up.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, if you were advised to come to the heward house for dinner tonight, tell me what would we have?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Steak?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: okay, really good on the grill.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, indirect heat, learn the methodology.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Well, blackstone or grill, oh, grill, yep, grill.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I, uh I I nerded out on cooking early before kids.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Um, and my first couple years in the league and, yep, I nerded out, got to know chefs and good stuff, pike Place Market and yep, so yeah, there'd be some.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: If I'm coming back from my trip to Sitka, you're going to have some salmon and you're going to have some halibut, pistachiocrusted halibut, fish and chips that you're going to remember.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: That sounds quite elegant and I'm impressed.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: You're not going to find that at Sherry's everybody, but at Brock Heward's restaurant you are.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: What was the last book you read?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I reread Boys in the Boat.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, fantastic one.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I read that the first time.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: That one was so good.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Actually we went on a little vacation and, uh, reread that one and that's that one's hard to beat favorite 80s comedy movie 80s huh, golly 80s.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Not, it's not a big comedy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Not a big comedy movie guy.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Much more of the braveheart top gun rocky four I mean caddyshack.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: The caddyshack was 80s right, that was 79, we'll call it good, it's yeah damon, absolutely love that no, no, no, no, no no dumb and dumber, that's 90s, right?
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: You're telling me there's a chance.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, um, okay, um, if there was a to be a book written about your life, tell me the title driven okay, now driven is selling out.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: You're going to go to Eugene today it's going to be sold out.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You're going to go to freaking Skagit County Airport Sold out.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Ellensburg sold out it's sold out everywhere.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: So now Netflix and Hulu and all these mainstream movie producing conglomerates are going to make a movie out of Driven.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: But you are now the casting director, brock, and you know who's going to star the slinging lefty in this critically acclaimed, hit new movie.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: My son Titus.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, there we go.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever heard that one.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: That's, that's fantastic.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately not a lefty.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: My wife said the other day we really screwed up when Titus took this beating right and then all these cuts all over his neck and shoulders and everything else and he does pitch and he loves to pitch and we'll see what the Lord wants to do with his gifts and his journey and everything else and she's like we really screwed up.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: We should have put that ball in his crib in the left hand, just made him left-handed, just so he could pitch, you know just so he could pitch.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, titus.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Titus got a lot of his, got a lot of his dad in him.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: I think he could pull it off.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: It Okay, and last question Tell me two words that would describe Molly.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Intuitive and empathetic.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Gold Lightning round's complete.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: We both giggled.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: We both had a blast.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for our time together today.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I hope our paths cross so I get to meet you in person, shake your hand and nerd out in some more quarterback stuff.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Keep doing everything you're doing.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I'm grateful for you.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: I'm grateful for all the dads who continue to listen.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: If you enjoy, if you've enjoyed this episode today everybody, please share it with a friend.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Share with another dad.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Let us serve and come into your, your lives and help you find ways to be a better quarterback leader at your household.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: But, brock, thank you again for your time and can't wait to watch you still doing everything you're doing.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Keep up the great work.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: And I didn't even know.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Man, you were most outstanding player, but this was a logo back then.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, I put this on today because we had some Husky football stuff to do today and look at that man, that's Dick Barrett's era.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Right there, right at you, I have a picture of don james.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I was like there's like I don't know how many were painted and I gave it to my dad and it was like he almost got came to tears.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: But at the and I still have it in our house, but it's a hand-drawn picture of don james back in the day.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: And my actually last question I know you got to go remember james compton?
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, my cousin.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Wow yeah, jumbo baby bull back.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Small world man.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Small world casey.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: It's been a blast.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Wow yeah, jimbo, baby Bullbacks.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Small world man, small world Casey, it's been a blast.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Keep doing what you're doing.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: To how many episodes?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: 200 and what?
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Close to 270.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: That is awesome.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Season five that is awesome.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: Keep it rolling and look forward to our paths crossing again.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it, brother.