Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 10/20/26 -- Guest Host Eric Eggers w/ Amy Reichert, Roxanne Hoge, Jay Collins, Frank Devito, and John Bickley
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America. Huge news out of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: White House today as President Trump announces a new plan
- 0:06Speaker 1: to pay Americans for information leading to the arrest of fraudsters. Florida,
- 0:11Speaker 1: California licensed investigator Amy Reichert will join us to discuss. Plus,
- 0:15Speaker 1: Michigan Senate candidate Abdul Al-Sayed is facing huge backlash for,
- 0:20Speaker 1: if you can believe it, comparing himself to former President
- 0:23Speaker 1: JFK during a town hall. And Europe continues to suffer
- 0:28Speaker 1: under socialism and mass migration. Now American expats are even
- 0:31Speaker 1: regretting their decision to move. We'll talk about it all.
- 0:35Speaker 1: I'm Eric Eggers, filling in for Dan Ball on Real
- 0:37Speaker 1: America starts right now.
- 0:53Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to announce the Fraud Whistleblower Incentive Program. Fraud
- 0:59Speaker 2: Whistleblower Incentive Program. And mark those words, independent journalists and
- 1:07Speaker 2: everybody and all Americans will now be able to go
- 1:10Speaker 2: to the fraud.gov and report cases of corruption and theft
- 1:15Speaker 2: of taxpayer dollars in their communities, all via a new website.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Good Tuesday evening to you all. I'm Eric Eggers, your
- 1:24Speaker 1: guest host, filling in for Dan Ball here on Real America.
- 1:27Speaker 1: And we begin tonight's show with a historic announcement from
- 1:30Speaker 1: President Trump and, as you just heard, a chance for
- 1:32Speaker 1: you to make some money. In an effort to stop
- 1:35Speaker 1: all fraud, the Trump administration is allocating $ 25 million to
- 1:40Speaker 1: a new program for Americans who report suspected fraud to
- 1:44Speaker 1: the government. Submissions can actually be filed on fraud.gov, and
- 1:48Speaker 1: anyone who submits information leading to a fraud conviction or
- 1:52Speaker 1: significant enforcement action can receive up to $ 30, 000. Does it
- 1:57Speaker 1: sound too good to be true? Well, as you heard
- 2:00Speaker 1: from President Trump, it's real. President Trump gave $ 10, 000 today
- 2:05Speaker 1: to independent journalist Nick Shirley during the announcement about this program.
- 2:09Speaker 1: It was a surreal moment, and you could tell Shirley
- 2:11Speaker 1: was thrilled. Here's what he said about his work exposing fraud.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Me as a 24-year-old, I went out and exposed the fraud.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I just was concerned about the well-being of our tax dollars.
- 2:20Speaker 3: And right now I'm standing next to the President of
- 2:22Speaker 3: the United States as now people who expose fraud.
- 2:25Speaker 1: There's never been an incentive for anyone to ever expose fraud.
- 2:28Speaker 1: In fact, when I exposed fraud.
- 2:30Speaker 4: Instead of the mainstream media investigating the fraud, they investigated me.
- 2:34Speaker 1: And people actually, in fact, wanted to kill me after
- 2:36Speaker 1: I exposed the fraud. So $ 10, 000, $ 30, 000, that's a lot
- 2:42Speaker 1: of money. But why today matters is a much bigger
- 2:44Speaker 1: deal than that. The idea that this administration is taking
- 2:48Speaker 1: fraud enforcement seriously isn't new. It started last year, as
- 2:51Speaker 1: you remember, with Doge, then Vice Presidential Task Force with J.D. Vance,
- 2:55Speaker 1: and the White House unveiled the website fraud.gov to highlight
- 2:58Speaker 1: all the busts. The Department of Justice even has their
- 3:01Speaker 1: own fraud division now. But when this happened, do you
- 3:04Speaker 1: remember any cheering from any Democrats at any stage of
- 3:07Speaker 1: this effort to crack down on fraud? Did Democrats cheer
- 3:10Speaker 1: on Elon Musk's effort to stop waste, abuse, and fraud?
- 3:14Speaker 1: Did any Democrat attorneys general even attend in May when
- 3:18Speaker 1: Vice President Vance hosted all the state's attorney general to
- 3:21Speaker 1: discuss ways to stop fraud? None of them showed up.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Think about that. Attorney generals are the top law enforcement
- 3:27Speaker 1: officials in the state, and not one from a Democrat
- 3:30Speaker 1: state came to talk to the vice president about stopping crime.
- 3:35Speaker 1: That's what fraud is. It's crime. But if a Republican
- 3:38Speaker 1: wants to stop it, Democrats literally refuse to participate. In fact,
- 3:43Speaker 1: it's even worse than that. They actively fight the efforts
- 3:46Speaker 1: to enforce the law. See this? This is a letter
- 3:50Speaker 1: from the former director of the Center of Medicaid and
- 3:52Speaker 1: Medicare Services to every state. He wrote it in December
- 3:56Speaker 1: of 2024. It says, quote, CMS expects state Medicaid agencies
- 4:01Speaker 1: to promptly cease the use of any sanctions or penalties,
- 4:05Speaker 1: pay attention, for beneficiary fraud and abuse. The feds in
- 4:11Speaker 1: this letter literally told the state to stop enforcing the law.
- 4:15Speaker 1: So people like Nick Shirley and Amy Reichert took matters
- 4:18Speaker 1: into their own hands and exposed things like this, daycare
- 4:21Speaker 1: fraud in San Diego. For their efforts, California didn't give
- 4:26Speaker 1: them an award. They passed the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Now,
- 4:30Speaker 1: before Amy joins us to discuss this, I want to
- 4:33Speaker 1: highlight one more major finding from this administration. The Treasury
- 4:36Speaker 1: Department just identified $ 270 million in potential fraud tied to
- 4:41Speaker 1: federal student aid, and we could see some major action there.
- 4:44Speaker 1: This is yet another reason why today matters. Joining us
- 4:48Speaker 1: now to discuss this historic accomplishment, someone who's actually worked
- 4:51Speaker 1: with Nick Shirley, California licensed investigator and founder and chairwoman
- 4:55Speaker 1: of Restore San Diego, Amy Reichert.
- 4:58Speaker 5: Amy.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Amy.
- 4:58Speaker 1: What's your reaction to the huge news today?
- 5:02Speaker 6: So my texts have been blowing up all day. They're saying, Amy,
- 5:06Speaker 6: you're going to be rich. So the president's announcement today
- 5:10Speaker 6: is vindication, actually, because we were name-called, Nick Shirley and I,
- 5:14Speaker 6: for exposing ghost daycares in San Diego.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have video, and Amy and Nick have
- 5:20Speaker 1: traveled around San Diego. Of course, all the fraud that existed,
- 5:23Speaker 1: we started the story in Minnesota, and then it morphed
- 5:26Speaker 1: into San California, here's you guys going up and showing us.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Talk to us about just, you know, after this you'd seen, like,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I love this video, this person, what's this conversation like
- 5:35Speaker 1: that you're having at this daycare?
- 5:37Speaker 5: That is the Medina Learning Center.
- 5:40Speaker 6: And when we arrived, their name was actually misspelled. So
- 5:44Speaker 6: just like the Learing Center in Minnesota. So we had
- 5:48Speaker 6: a conversation with her and we merely asked for an
- 5:51Speaker 6: application to enroll a child and she couldn't even produce one.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Well, you know, not every child care center is looking
- 5:57Speaker 1: to actively enroll more students, possibly their capacity, or as
- 6:00Speaker 1: I think your reporting actually indicated, the opposite was true.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They had the reporting to have, I think, like nearly 40.
- 6:05Speaker 1: They had a small fraction of that, correct?
- 6:08Speaker 6: Yeah. The state actually visited Medina Learning Center 18 times.
- 6:12Speaker 5: So there was a pattern of.
- 6:14Speaker 6: 39 kids enrolled and zero or very few kids present.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And so that's the bigger deal. We made this point
- 6:21Speaker 1: during the monologue to begin the segment. So to me,
- 6:24Speaker 1: it's a fundamental posture shift that President Trump and his
- 6:27Speaker 1: administration have made about prosecuting fraud, which is a crime.
- 6:31Speaker 1: To me, it's insane. I know you are a native Californian.
- 6:34Speaker 1: You at least live in California. And so this is
- 6:36Speaker 1: the state that produced the Stop Nick Shirley Act by
- 6:40Speaker 1: the wife of the current attorney general. It's literally insane.
- 6:43Speaker 1: But rather than accept help of investigators like yourself, they
- 6:47Speaker 1: seem to adopt a hostile posture, making it much more
- 6:50Speaker 1: difficult for you to not just do your job, but
- 6:52Speaker 1: save taxpayer money. What is that about?
- 6:55Speaker 6: Right out of the gate, Gavin Newsom was calling me
- 6:58Speaker 6: personally on social media, Donald Trump's stooge, calling us fake investigators. Well,
- 7:04Speaker 6: I'm a licensed investigator in the state of California. And
- 7:08Speaker 6: so we were bringing examples of fraud in his own state.
- 7:12Speaker 6: So their reaction was very telling. It was to dismiss us,
- 7:17Speaker 6: name call us instead of doing what was right to
- 7:20Speaker 6: protect taxpayer.
- 7:21Speaker 1: It's literally insane. And I think so now with this
- 7:25Speaker 1: new kind of policy, I don't know that you're going
- 7:28Speaker 1: to be rich necessarily. Certainly not with California prices. Ten
- 7:31Speaker 1: to thirty thousand dollars. Maybe you can get like nicer
- 7:34Speaker 1: groceries or something and maybe a little help with the pump.
- 7:37Speaker 1: But what do you think it means? And are you
- 7:39Speaker 1: expecting now? I mean, are you excited by this? Do
- 7:41Speaker 1: you expect to see more people kind of come along
- 7:42Speaker 1: beside you trying to expose fraud? And what advice would
- 7:45Speaker 1: you have for anybody that wants to get in this
- 7:47Speaker 1: line of work?
- 7:48Speaker 6: Well, again, my phone has been blowing up today, not
- 7:51Speaker 6: just with, oh, Amy, you're going to be rich, but
- 7:54Speaker 6: now other.
- 7:55Speaker 5: People are saying, well, guess what?
- 7:56Speaker 6: I have a fraud tip too, Amy, that I'd like
- 7:59Speaker 6: for you to investigate, then maybe we could split the pot.
- 8:02Speaker 5: So I think it's game on.
- 8:05Speaker 6: In a way, it does feel a little bit like
- 8:07Speaker 6: the lottery, like people are hitting the lottery. But The
- 8:12Speaker 6: fact of the matter is it's the taxpayers who've been
- 8:15Speaker 6: ripped off. And if there needs to be an incentive
- 8:17Speaker 6: for people to do the right thing, so be it.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Well, and they pair the announcement of the incentives for
- 8:23Speaker 1: exposing and blowing the whistle on fraud with also the
- 8:25Speaker 1: announcement that they've identified, I think, 270 million more fraud
- 8:29Speaker 1: in student loans across the country. Of course, nobody knows
- 8:32Speaker 1: more about student loan fraud than California. Gavin Newsom, I
- 8:35Speaker 1: work with investigative reporter Susan Crabtree. She's been chronicling this
- 8:38Speaker 1: for some time. Why do you think states like California
- 8:42Speaker 1: and Minnesota have been so hostile to this Republican government
- 8:48Speaker 1: that's working to stop fraud, save taxpayer money, and enforce
- 8:52Speaker 1: the law? What possible reason would Democrat leadership have to
- 8:56Speaker 1: not just comply with the law?
- 8:59Speaker 6: So another thing that I just posted this week was
- 9:02Speaker 6: a local politician. If you look at her top donors,
- 9:05Speaker 6: normally you would expect attorneys to be the top donors, developers. Instead,
- 9:11Speaker 6: It was daycare providers.
- 9:13Speaker 2: No!
- 9:14Speaker 5: Yes! Right here in California.
- 9:17Speaker 6: So in this one politician's example, in one month alone,
- 9:22Speaker 6: there were $ 3, 500 from daycare providers alone. And they were
- 9:27Speaker 6: one of the top groups. So again, there is that
- 9:30Speaker 6: connection between these non-government organizations who are receiving government contracts,
- 9:35Speaker 6: taxpayer money, going right back to the politicians.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Well, and even worse than that, you know, I work
- 9:40Speaker 1: at the Government Accountability Institute with Peter Schweitzer, and we've
- 9:43Speaker 1: done a number of reports on welfare fraud, EBT fraud specifically.
- 9:47Speaker 1: And so while sometimes the money, as you noted, can
- 9:49Speaker 1: end up back in the hands of the Democrat politicians
- 9:52Speaker 1: who kind of oversee and facilitate the fraud, what also
- 9:54Speaker 1: happens is the money ends up actually traveling overseas, often
- 9:58Speaker 1: through these Tawala networks, and literally ends up in the
- 10:02Speaker 1: hands of terrorist organizations.
- 10:05Speaker 7: 100%.
- 10:05Speaker 5: And that is something that J.D.
- 10:06Speaker 6: Vance himself has discussed directly from the White House, that
- 10:10Speaker 6: they have tracked that some of the money that is
- 10:13Speaker 6: supposed to go for these government contracts, instead, these NGOs
- 10:17Speaker 6: send it to places like Somalia.
- 10:19Speaker 1: No, Somalia, and there's a lot of money. I think
- 10:20Speaker 1: it's like more money comes out of the Minnesota, Minneapolis
- 10:25Speaker 1: airport than all the other airports in the world combined.
- 10:27Speaker 1: The cash, cash just leaves there. It's insane. So if
- 10:32Speaker 1: you were going to offer one piece of advice now
- 10:34Speaker 1: to the fraud task force, you're a licensed investigator, what's
- 10:38Speaker 1: the next area of government spending, either at the state
- 10:42Speaker 1: or federal level, you think deserves more scrutiny?
- 10:44Speaker 6: Well, in California, it's open season. I mean, we've got
- 10:47Speaker 6: the homeless industrial complex. We have the hospice. We have
- 10:51Speaker 6: child care with ghost daycares. adult daycares, I would say,
- 10:56Speaker 6: is the next one to look into.
- 10:57Speaker 1: So actually, so people, if you live in like a
- 10:59Speaker 1: normal state, you might not know what this means. But
- 11:03Speaker 1: that actually is a growing, in fact, Steve Hilton, I think,
- 11:06Speaker 1: has talked about this, that he's running for governor of California.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But adult care providers, what is that for somebody that's like, what, why,
- 11:15Speaker 1: how is that a thing? And why would taxpayer money
- 11:17Speaker 1: pay for it?
- 11:18Speaker 6: They're actually kind of wonderful. So I've actually checked out
- 11:22Speaker 6: some of them. They're located in California strip malls and
- 11:25Speaker 6: you walk in and some of them are legitimate and
- 11:29Speaker 6: they'll have about 75 very happy seniors playing cards, doing
- 11:35Speaker 6: different activities, you know, trying to stay healthy and young,
- 11:39Speaker 6: but it is all taxpayer funded. And it really is
- 11:43Speaker 6: an opportunity for them to say, well, there weren't just
- 11:45Speaker 6: 75 senior citizens here today. There were a hundred. and
- 11:48Speaker 6: it's all paid for with our taxpayer money.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And the level of oversight that states like California and
- 11:53Speaker 1: Minnesota have proven they're capable of, or quite honestly not
- 11:57Speaker 1: capable of, extend to these types of programs, you can
- 11:59Speaker 1: expect the amount of fraud to continue. Amy Reichert, she's
- 12:02Speaker 1: been blowing the whistle on fraud for some time. Thank
- 12:05Speaker 1: you for all the excellent work you've done. Congratulations, and hey,
- 12:08Speaker 1: we're rooting for you to bring home big money for you, okay?
- 12:11Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much. Still to come on
- 12:13Speaker 1: Real America, Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed is, if you
- 12:17Speaker 1: can believe it, comparing himself to former President JFK while
- 12:21Speaker 1: downplaying serious concerns about where his loyalty lies. Stay with
- 12:25Speaker 1: us for that conversation. Plus, speaking of socialist, Florida Senate
- 12:29Speaker 1: candidate Angie Nixon is calling for her opponent to be
- 12:32Speaker 1: thrown in prison. The state's Lieutenant Governor Jay Collins will
- 12:35Speaker 1: weigh in. And new reports show that American expats are
- 12:39Speaker 1: regretting their decision, if you can believe it, to move
- 12:41Speaker 1: to Europe. As mass migration and socialism run rampant, all
- 12:45Speaker 1: this and more when we come back.
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- 13:17Speaker 4: The CEOs are making millions of dollars a year, give
- 13:34Speaker 4: people like this drugs, You're paying for the drugs for
- 13:38Speaker 4: these people.
- 13:39Speaker 1: You'll hear from John Alley in a moment.
- 13:41Speaker 4: Every day, taxpayer-funded nonprofits showing up here, handing out crack pipes,
- 13:46Speaker 4: handing out needles, handing out drugs that you pay for.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Wake up, California! Handing out crack pipes, handing out needles,
- 13:57Speaker 1: and everybody's paying for it. Couldn't say it any better myself.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Like much of Europe, California is actually a failed socialist state,
- 14:04Speaker 1: and Republican gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton is running to rescue
- 14:08Speaker 1: it before it's too late. Which brings us to his
- 14:10Speaker 1: latest campaign pledge. With just two weeks to go until
- 14:13Speaker 1: Election Day, Hilton is pledging to clear every homeless encampment
- 14:17Speaker 1: across the entire state by the end of 2027. Now,
- 14:21Speaker 1: I will be amazed if he makes that happen. He
- 14:24Speaker 1: would declare homelessness a state of emergency to accelerate the
- 14:27Speaker 1: construction of recovery centers It would enforce public camping bans
- 14:31Speaker 1: once those facilities are built. Even more interesting, new statewide
- 14:35Speaker 1: centers would offer food, shelter, job training, and medical care.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I guess they're trying to find new places for these
- 14:41Speaker 1: homeless people to hang out. Plans like these are why
- 14:43Speaker 1: Hilton is gaining ground in some of the polls. On
- 14:46Speaker 1: the flip side, his Democrat opponent, Javier Becerra, is losing
- 14:49Speaker 1: ground fast. partly because, of other reasons, he's being exposed
- 14:54Speaker 1: for the role he played in missing migrant children. Hundreds
- 14:58Speaker 1: of thousands of migrant children went missing when Becerra was
- 15:00Speaker 1: working as Joe Biden's health secretary, and Hilton is looking
- 15:04Speaker 1: for answers about what Javier Becerra knew and when he
- 15:07Speaker 1: knew it. He just sent a letter, Steve Hilton did,
- 15:09Speaker 1: to the DHS on Monday, asking federal officials to turn
- 15:13Speaker 1: over records about it, including, get this, a laptop belonging
- 15:17Speaker 1: to a former federal contractor. So the question is this.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Will the DHS make these records available? Join us now
- 15:24Speaker 1: to discuss the state of the campaign and if there's
- 15:26Speaker 1: any hope in actually saving California is Roxanne Hogue. She
- 15:30Speaker 1: is the chairman of the Los Angeles County Republican Party.
- 15:33Speaker 1: She's also a former actress, including some of my favorite
- 15:36Speaker 1: television shows of all time. Roxanne, talk to us about
- 15:39Speaker 1: your state. Is there any hope?
- 15:43Speaker 8: Of course there's hope. In fact, the most amazing thing
- 15:46Speaker 8: I think about California that people don't realize and that
- 15:49Speaker 8: Steve Hilton is campaigning on is that everything bad here
- 15:53Speaker 8: has been done on purpose. It's not accidental. So if
- 15:57Speaker 8: we just stop doing the bad and stupid stuff, we
- 16:00Speaker 8: will flourish again. And I'm looking forward to it.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the good news about it being an
- 16:05Speaker 1: intentional sabotage effort is you know exactly the pathway to
- 16:08Speaker 1: kind of walk backwards on. Hey, all we have to
- 16:10Speaker 1: do is unwind all the bad ideas. The question is,
- 16:14Speaker 1: and I've seen, I'm actually in California this week, so
- 16:15Speaker 1: I've seen Steve Hilton billboards saying, like, try it, right?
- 16:19Speaker 1: Just try something different. You have worked, and God bless you,
- 16:24Speaker 1: You know, you work in Los Angeles as a Republican,
- 16:26Speaker 1: and I know you say people come there to raise
- 16:28Speaker 1: money and they go back and they don't spend a
- 16:30Speaker 1: lot of time there. But do you think that the
- 16:33Speaker 1: message is resonating? And do you think that people are
- 16:36Speaker 1: just so fed up with the status quo in California?
- 16:39Speaker 1: I mean, you're seeing these protests and riots in France
- 16:42Speaker 1: and Italy and elsewhere. And it's like, how far removed
- 16:44Speaker 1: is California from that? Is voting for somebody else maybe
- 16:48Speaker 1: a chance to choose a different destiny for your state?
- 16:52Speaker 9: Yes.
- 16:52Speaker 8: As I always say, you don't need to be a
- 16:54Speaker 8: Republican to vote for one. What brings me hope about
- 16:57Speaker 8: Steve is that he is saying things that people can
- 17:00Speaker 8: see with their own eyes.
- 17:01Speaker 5: Right.
- 17:02Speaker 8: And he's making it very clear that you can just
- 17:05Speaker 8: try it. You can just try voting for him. That's
- 17:08Speaker 8: why we have a voter guide in L.A., because L.A.
- 17:11Speaker 8: is 25 percent of the electorate for California. So if
- 17:15Speaker 8: he even just punches through and loses L.A. by less,
- 17:19Speaker 8: he can win. So we encourage people to go to VoteDifferentLA.com.
- 17:23Speaker 8: And that's where we encourage everyone to vote in all
- 17:27Speaker 8: the races, not just for governor. He is working harder
- 17:31Speaker 8: than anyone we've seen on either side of the aisle,
- 17:34Speaker 8: by the way, in a very long time. And people are,
- 17:37Speaker 8: quite frankly, ready for change.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I mean, if they're not ready for change and they
- 17:42Speaker 1: should be ready for institutionalization, because at this point that
- 17:44Speaker 1: gets fair to question what's their mental acuity. If you
- 17:48Speaker 1: look at the reality for so many different people in
- 17:50Speaker 1: California and that, you know what, this is good. Let's
- 17:53Speaker 1: just keep doing this. Let's vote for the guy that
- 17:55Speaker 1: lost hundreds of thousands of migrant children. That's who should
- 17:58Speaker 1: be in charge of a state that's already overrun with fraud, right?
- 18:01Speaker 1: It's literally, it would be comical if it wasn't so
- 18:04Speaker 1: tragic because there are real lives at stake and real,
- 18:08Speaker 1: you know, billions of taxpayer money being lost because of
- 18:10Speaker 1: the lax oversight of Gavin Newsom and Javier Becerra and elsewhere.
- 18:14Speaker 1: I guess my question is, So it's one thing to say,
- 18:17Speaker 1: all right, well, here are the candidates. It's another question
- 18:19Speaker 1: about how you actually do elections in California. And I think,
- 18:22Speaker 1: and I know you heard, you called Spencer Pratt, the
- 18:26Speaker 1: candidate has no clothes candidate, right? Because he was exposing
- 18:30Speaker 1: just how tragic and how backwards the reality is in
- 18:33Speaker 1: Los Angeles specifically. There's a movement in November now to
- 18:36Speaker 1: possibly require voter ID. What's your sense of how that's faring?
- 18:42Speaker 1: I know that Attorney General Rob Bonta has taken some
- 18:44Speaker 1: nefarious steps to try to keep it from having as
- 18:47Speaker 1: much likelihood to pass. They changed the name on it
- 18:49Speaker 1: to make it less attractive. Do you think that even
- 18:52Speaker 1: if Steve Hilton is unsuccessful, the idea of requiring voter
- 18:55Speaker 1: ID has a chance in California?
- 18:57Speaker 8: Everything is a package altogether right now. So these ballot
- 19:02Speaker 8: measures to do what the Democrats have wanted for a
- 19:07Speaker 8: long time, they've had in California, which is to coddle
- 19:09Speaker 8: criminals and punish producers.
- 19:12Speaker 5: And so that.
- 19:13Speaker 8: Infuses everything on our ballot, from voter ID to the
- 19:16Speaker 8: billionaire's tax to stopping the protections of Prop 13 for homeowners.
- 19:21Speaker 8: And the fact is, that's why it's important that people
- 19:24Speaker 8: vote for all of these things. They'll all pass or
- 19:27Speaker 8: they'll all fall. The ballot, by the way, people in
- 19:31Speaker 8: the rest of the country don't even understand this.
- 19:33Speaker 10: L.A.
- 19:33Speaker 5: Is so big.
- 19:34Speaker 8: When I voted— I actually had to vote in 64
- 19:39Speaker 8: different contests. If I didn't have the cheat sheet that
- 19:43Speaker 8: my own party produces, I'm not sure I could have
- 19:45Speaker 8: gotten through it in under an hour. The fact is
- 19:50Speaker 8: that everything the far left has done, and by the way,
- 19:54Speaker 8: right now, there's a ton of Democrats that are for
- 19:57Speaker 8: Steve Hilton, that are fighting the billionaire's tax, that are
- 20:00Speaker 8: for voter ID, because they realize that they've been played
- 20:04Speaker 8: for fools. And the DSA is the Democrat Socialists of America,
- 20:08Speaker 8: which are not Democrat, but are very socialist, have completely
- 20:12Speaker 8: gotten a foothold in Los Angeles, and it's time to
- 20:15Speaker 8: drive them out.
- 20:17Speaker 1: 64 different races, Roxanne. I hope that when they gave
- 20:20Speaker 1: you your I Voted sticker, they also gave you some, like,
- 20:22Speaker 1: aspirin for your wrist, because I would think you would
- 20:24Speaker 1: be hurt after that. I mean, that's insane. That's more
- 20:27Speaker 1: paperwork than.
- 20:28Speaker 8: It's like taking an SAT, and that's why we had
- 20:30Speaker 8: to make, we had to program a customizable ballot system
- 20:35Speaker 8: guide at LAGOP because it is literally 750 nonpartisan candidates,
- 20:42Speaker 8: 70 ballot measures, plus the partisan ones. There are hundreds
- 20:45Speaker 8: of races happening in LA alone.
- 20:48Speaker 1: It's like taking the SAT, but with one exception, Roxanne.
- 20:51Speaker 1: When you take the SAT, you have to show ID.
- 20:53Speaker 1: She's Roxanne Hogue. She's the chair of the Los Angeles
- 20:56Speaker 1: County Republican Party. She is a happy warrior fighting to
- 20:59Speaker 1: make California slightly more sane. You got two weeks to go, Roxanne.
- 21:03Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck.
- 21:04Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Absolutely. Coming up next, an ex-congressional candidate spends time in
- 21:09Speaker 1: jail for threatening Floridians to vote for a socialist. Surprise, surprise.
- 21:14Speaker 1: The good news is Lieutenant Governor of Florida Jay Collins
- 21:17Speaker 1: will join us next to discuss the situation.
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- 22:01Speaker 11: Spreading like a lot of disinformation and lies on commercials
- 22:05Speaker 11: about me, saying things like I want to abolish prisons
- 22:09Speaker 11: and I want to defund the police. Why would I
- 22:11Speaker 11: want to do that when I want her locked up
- 22:14Speaker 11: and punished in jail for what she has done? And so,
- 22:18Speaker 11: you know, we are going to continue to stump on
- 22:20Speaker 11: this campaign trail all across the state from the panhandle.
- 22:24Speaker 10: To the keys.
- 22:26Speaker 1: So in case you just missed it, that's Angie Nixon,
- 22:29Speaker 1: a candidate for Senate in my home state of Florida,
- 22:32Speaker 1: talking about wanting to see her opponent, current U.S. Senator
- 22:35Speaker 1: Ashley Moody, locked up, while a current Democrat senator, Chris Murphy,
- 22:40Speaker 1: sits there in silence. Now, I know that rhetoric is
- 22:43Speaker 1: crazy and honestly pretty scary. But in her defense, putting
- 22:47Speaker 1: her opponent in jail might be her only hope. The
- 22:50Speaker 1: latest poll shows she's losing by at least 10 points, unsurprisingly.
- 22:55Speaker 1: But she's still doubling down on the sort of radical
- 22:57Speaker 1: rhetoric that garners support from Bernie Sanders and others. Here's
- 23:01Speaker 1: the really scary part. Angie Nixon isn't the only socialist
- 23:05Speaker 1: in Florida who's endangering Republicans. Have you heard of Elijah Manley?
- 23:10Speaker 1: For those who don't know about him, He was a
- 23:12Speaker 1: congressional candidate in Florida. He was also just booked into
- 23:16Speaker 1: jail on two counts of making written death threats. In
- 23:20Speaker 1: one social media post, he threatened to kill any Democrat
- 23:23Speaker 1: who doesn't throw their weight behind the Democrat Senate candidate
- 23:26Speaker 1: talking about Angie Nixon. He's made similar remarks in other posts, too,
- 23:30Speaker 1: saying he would burn anyone who got in his way.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Welcome to the party of tolerance and inclusion. Now, the
- 23:38Speaker 1: good news, in Florida at least, is Florida's full of
- 23:40Speaker 1: people who have escaped actual socialism. They've come from places
- 23:44Speaker 1: like Venezuela, Cuba, and elsewhere, and they choose to live
- 23:47Speaker 1: a life in the free state of Florida. That's a
- 23:50Speaker 1: nickname Florida earned, by the way, during COVID, when Governor
- 23:52Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis led the fight to keep schools and churches
- 23:55Speaker 1: and beaches open and let parents decide if they wanted
- 23:58Speaker 1: to put a mask or a vaccine on themselves or
- 24:00Speaker 1: their children. Joining us now to talk about the fight
- 24:03Speaker 1: to keep Florida free, and you can learn a lot
- 24:05Speaker 1: from this guy, is the man Governor DeSantis picked to
- 24:08Speaker 1: be his lieutenant governor, retired Green Beret Jay Collins, who
- 24:12Speaker 1: I promise you isn't afraid of Elijah Manley. Lieutenant Governor Collins,
- 24:17Speaker 1: great to see you. What do you make of this
- 24:20Speaker 1: crazy rhetoric that's coming out of these DSA-aligned candidates in
- 24:24Speaker 1: our state?
- 24:25Speaker 10: Well, first off, Eric, it's good to see you. Good
- 24:28Speaker 10: to be on the show. And look, Angie... is exactly
- 24:31Speaker 10: who we thought she was. She is absolutely crazy. The DSA,
- 24:36Speaker 10: the fact that they have a candidate here in Florida,
- 24:38Speaker 10: first off, is shocking. Second, the fact that she's getting support,
- 24:42Speaker 10: even more problematic. But when you see the party of tolerance,
- 24:45Speaker 10: the party of, you know, all the rhetoric and lies
- 24:48Speaker 10: and BS that they have continued to funnel towards the
- 24:51Speaker 10: American people, make open threats like that, my first response
- 24:55Speaker 10: when I heard that was like, you can try and
- 24:58Speaker 10: Cut my head off if that's what you're going to do.
- 24:59Speaker 10: Many have made that threat, but come and get it, baby.
- 25:02Speaker 10: We're here. Second, there's no place for that nonsense. You
- 25:06Speaker 10: can't sit there and bully and threaten people and expect
- 25:09Speaker 10: them to vote for you. That guy deserves what's coming
- 25:12Speaker 10: his way. And the fact is this. Florida is free.
- 25:16Speaker 10: We stand for what's right. We have done the right
- 25:18Speaker 10: thing when others have failed. And I'm very proud of
- 25:21Speaker 10: what we've stood for and what we've done in Florida.
- 25:23Speaker 10: We truly are the free state of Florida.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I like your chances. For people that don't know
- 25:27Speaker 1: about Lieutenant Governor Collins, he was a Green Beret, served,
- 25:31Speaker 1: sustained a battlefield wound in battle and had to perform
- 25:35Speaker 1: surgery on himself, made the choice. You know, people don't
- 25:38Speaker 1: understand all the aspects of your biography, but you made
- 25:41Speaker 1: the choice to have your leg amputated as a way
- 25:44Speaker 1: to kind of preserve your capacity to be a better father.
- 25:47Speaker 1: be a better husband, and be a better soldier. You
- 25:50Speaker 1: re-qualified for active duty. And so now you are Lieutenant
- 25:54Speaker 1: Governor of Florida who knows what the future will hold
- 25:56Speaker 1: for you. But I guess why I love having your
- 25:58Speaker 1: perspective on this is you've seen what actual enemy combatants
- 26:02Speaker 1: look like. And you know the real deal versus people
- 26:04Speaker 1: that just like to post these keyboard warriors on social media.
- 26:08Speaker 1: But you also know that the stakes couldn't be more
- 26:10Speaker 1: real to keeping states like Florida free. Just how real
- 26:15Speaker 1: are the threats of not just these DSA candidates, but
- 26:18Speaker 1: it's not a guarantee the Republicans win some of these
- 26:20Speaker 1: areas that are currently red. What are you seeing? I
- 26:23Speaker 1: know you've been traveling around the state, talking to different
- 26:24Speaker 1: people in every county. What are you concerned about based
- 26:27Speaker 1: on what you're hearing?
- 26:28Speaker 10: Well, Eric, first off, I plan for the worst and
- 26:31Speaker 10: I hope for the best, right? We have to work
- 26:33Speaker 10: like we're down 10 points every single day. That means
- 26:36Speaker 10: we have to show up. We have to speak the truth.
- 26:39Speaker 10: We have to listen to the people. We have to
- 26:40Speaker 10: follow through with actions. not just running our mouth and
- 26:43Speaker 10: saying the right political thing. We have to get things done.
- 26:47Speaker 10: First and foremost, I want to see our party continue
- 26:49Speaker 10: to do what we've done on that. Second, look at Europe, France, Italy.
- 26:55Speaker 10: Look at the nonsense with these riots, openly tearing down government,
- 27:00Speaker 10: ripping things apart. If you don't believe the DSA is
- 27:02Speaker 10: out for blood, trying to destroy people's way of life,
- 27:06Speaker 10: that the radical Islamists are out there cohorting with them, guys,
- 27:11Speaker 10: the threat's there. They are not at the gates. They
- 27:14Speaker 10: are within our walls. They're in our communities. They're running
- 27:16Speaker 10: for office. Take it serious before we end up like France, Italy,
- 27:19Speaker 10: and the rest of Europe. For me and my family,
- 27:22Speaker 10: we're going to fight. We're going to stand. And we
- 27:24Speaker 10: will not lose those rules, those fights, those races that
- 27:27Speaker 10: we should win because we're going to put our time in.
- 27:30Speaker 10: And that's what we're doing in Florida. We know what's right.
- 27:33Speaker 10: Now we have to perform.
- 27:34Speaker 1: So what does it look like to fight, right? For
- 27:36Speaker 1: people that are trying to make decisions about which candidates
- 27:38Speaker 1: to support, what are policy proposals, policy positions, or people
- 27:42Speaker 1: being willing to kind of speak brave things? Who are
- 27:44Speaker 1: you looking to and what are you hearing that gives
- 27:47Speaker 1: you some hope to kind of make sure that the
- 27:49Speaker 1: United States and free states like Florida don't end up
- 27:52Speaker 1: like places like what you're seeing happen in France, the UK,
- 27:55Speaker 1: and Italy, et cetera?
- 27:57Speaker 10: Well, first off, if they have DSA behind their name,
- 27:59Speaker 10: you should not support them in America. Guys, that's a
- 28:02Speaker 10: bad idea. You know, we educate people on socialism and communism.
- 28:06Speaker 10: That's a bill I ran as a state senator, simply
- 28:08Speaker 10: because we know how it turns out. It's always the same.
- 28:12Speaker 10: Socialism leads to communism. It destroys communities, countries, and cultures.
- 28:16Speaker 10: It always turns out the same. What do we have
- 28:19Speaker 10: to look for? What does fighting look like? It means
- 28:22Speaker 10: supporting candidates who actually want to show up and listen,
- 28:25Speaker 10: people who understand that math always wins. You know, you
- 28:28Speaker 10: can't take everybody's money, promise everything for free, promise equality,
- 28:33Speaker 10: and then settle for equity. They're not the same words.
- 28:35Speaker 10: They have different meanings. And the left, and especially the DSA,
- 28:40Speaker 10: want to do that. But I'll tell you, over the
- 28:42Speaker 10: next two to four years, we have to watch this
- 28:46Speaker 10: radical Islamist threat. We have to watch socialism and communism
- 28:49Speaker 10: rolling along with it. And they're certainly trying to use
- 28:52Speaker 10: each other. But that fight never goes away. When we
- 28:56Speaker 10: pushed back during the Cold War and Reagan pushed them aside,
- 28:59Speaker 10: We thought the communism and socialism died. It didn't. It regrouped.
- 29:03Speaker 10: It got a new name, and it came back and
- 29:05Speaker 10: attacked us through our education system and other places. Take
- 29:08Speaker 10: the threat serious. Serve and fight like your family's future
- 29:12Speaker 10: depends on it, Eric, because it does.
- 29:13Speaker 1: It does, and all you need to do is take
- 29:16Speaker 1: those candidates at their word. When they threaten you, believe them.
- 29:19Speaker 1: We've heard it from people affiliated with Angie Nixon. You
- 29:22Speaker 1: heard it affiliated from that DSA candidate. The threat couldn't
- 29:25Speaker 1: be more real. What we do know is so, too,
- 29:27Speaker 1: is the resolve of warriors like you, Lieutenant Governor Collins.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Thank you for your service to this country. Thank you
- 29:31Speaker 1: for your service to our state of Florida. And thank
- 29:33Speaker 1: you for your fight to keep Americans of all stripes free.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Have a great night.
- 29:38Speaker 10: Eric, thank you. God bless, my friend.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Coming up next, a U.S. Senate candidate has compared himself
- 29:43Speaker 1: to President John F. Kennedy. He actually meant it, too.
- 29:47Speaker 1: That's the weird part. Coming up next, we're going to
- 29:49Speaker 1: explore just how delusional Abdul El-Sayed actually is.
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- 30:35Speaker 12: I have one simple question. Will you disavow the Muslims?
- 30:38Speaker 7: Sure.
- 30:39Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely.
- 30:40Speaker 13: But I want to ask them the question that you're asking.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Why are you asking the question?
- 30:44Speaker 13: Well, because they're a terrorist group.
- 30:47Speaker 10: Okay.
- 30:48Speaker 1: No, no, but what are you implying?
- 30:49Speaker 12: Do you assume that I wouldn't?
- 30:51Speaker 2: Yes.
- 30:52Speaker 5: Why not?
- 30:52Speaker 4: Because I have not heard you disavow them yet.
- 30:55Speaker 14: Have you disavowed them? I haven't heard you disavow them yet.
- 30:56Speaker 12: I disavowed them.
- 30:58Speaker 6: You're great.
- 30:59Speaker 1: But here's the thing about it. You're asking the question
- 31:01Speaker 1: because implicitly you assume that I'll have dual loyalties.
- 31:06Speaker 10: Right?
- 31:07Speaker 1: So that's Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed using, by my count,
- 31:12Speaker 1: a whole lot of words to attack a man at
- 31:14Speaker 1: a town hall while at the same time, very specifically,
- 31:18Speaker 1: not disavowing the Muslim Brotherhood. This isn't even the first
- 31:22Speaker 1: time the man President Trump calls Muhammad is proving to
- 31:25Speaker 1: be a nasty narcissist. And his recent comments during that
- 31:28Speaker 1: town hall are just the latest example, although it's actually
- 31:31Speaker 1: not my favorite one. No, my favorite one is where
- 31:34Speaker 1: El-Sayed literally compared himself to John F. Kennedy in that
- 31:38Speaker 1: same town hall. JFK, you remember him, right? He was
- 31:41Speaker 1: the president. He said he would put a man on
- 31:43Speaker 1: the moon as a country, and he told us all
- 31:45Speaker 1: not to ask what our country could do for us,
- 31:47Speaker 1: but what we could do for our country. Abdul El-Sayed
- 31:51Speaker 1: calls himself a doctor because he was in charge of
- 31:53Speaker 1: healthcare in Detroit, which, last time I checked, no one
- 31:57Speaker 1: was confusing for Camelot. So, to be fair... El-Sayed thinks
- 32:01Speaker 1: he's like JFK because, at the time, people were concerned
- 32:04Speaker 1: about a Catholic being president. But it wasn't like people
- 32:07Speaker 1: didn't know what side JFK took in the Crusades, you know? Still,
- 32:12Speaker 1: here's Abdul El-Sayed making his case.
- 32:15Speaker 14: He was asked whether or not he was going to
- 32:18Speaker 14: have allegiance to the Pope at the Vatican.
- 32:22Speaker 7: Because, of course, he's Catholic.
- 32:24Speaker 14: And his answer famously was that he was not running
- 32:27Speaker 14: to be a Catholic president. He was running to be
- 32:29Speaker 14: president and happened to be Catholic.
- 32:41Speaker 1: He happens to be Muslim. He also happens to get
- 32:44Speaker 1: super defensive and evasive when asked to disavow the Muslim Brotherhood.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Or if he thinks Iran is, you know, more of
- 32:50Speaker 1: a threat to this country than Israel. I guess that's
- 32:52Speaker 1: where the similarities to JFK sort of end. Current vice
- 32:56Speaker 1: president and current Catholic J.D. Vance was asked if he
- 32:59Speaker 1: saw any similarities between our 35th president and Abdul El-Sayed.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Let's just say J.D. Vance and Abdul aren't exactly on
- 33:06Speaker 1: the same page.
- 33:08Speaker 9: I think that it's absurd. We're not scrutinizing him because
- 33:12Speaker 9: of his religious faith or because of his ethnicity. We're
- 33:14Speaker 9: scrutinizing him because he says a lot of crazy stuff.
- 33:17Speaker 9: And he goes around with this guy who says that
- 33:20Speaker 9: the United States deserve 9-11. And, you know, he says
- 33:24Speaker 9: that concerns about Sharia law, which is like quite literally the.
- 33:28Speaker 9: politicization of our laws, making them more Islamic. I think
- 33:32Speaker 9: that's a reasonable American concern, whether you're a Muslim or non-Muslim.
- 33:36Speaker 1: He says that's white supremacy.
- 33:38Speaker 9: So I think the fact that he says so many
- 33:40Speaker 9: crazy things, it shows himself to be so much outside
- 33:42Speaker 9: the mainstream of the country. I really don't care what
- 33:44Speaker 9: his faith is or what his ethnicity is. I care
- 33:46Speaker 9: about the fact that he's a crazy person. And that's
- 33:48Speaker 9: why I want Mike Rogers to win.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Here to discuss this with me tonight, political commentator and
- 33:54Speaker 1: attorney at the Napa Legal Institute, also author of the
- 33:57Speaker 1: book J.D. Vance and the Future of the Republican Party,
- 34:00Speaker 1: Frank DeVito. Frank, two of your favorite people, Abdul El-Sayed
- 34:05Speaker 1: and J.D. Vance, brought into the same soundbite. Whose side
- 34:08Speaker 1: are you taking, Abdul's or Vice President Vance's?
- 34:11Speaker 13: I think I'll go with the latter. I can't say
- 34:14Speaker 13: two of my favorite people. I'm a big Vance fan.
- 34:16Speaker 13: Abdul El-Sayed, not so much. Yeah, this is, there's so
- 34:19Speaker 13: much going on with this guy, right? Because you have
- 34:22Speaker 13: this kind of red-green coalition problem, this really schizophrenic issue
- 34:27Speaker 13: of these candidates who are Muslims, and like you said,
- 34:31Speaker 13: won't even disavow the Muslim Brotherhood, which by the way
- 34:34Speaker 13: is not, you know, they did some charitable work that
- 34:36Speaker 13: was part of their shtick, but the goal of the
- 34:38Speaker 13: Muslim Brotherhood is to create a Sharia state with a caliphate. Like,
- 34:43Speaker 13: that's in their mission statement. This is not conspiracy theorizing.
- 34:48Speaker 13: There's so much you could say here, but you mix
- 34:49Speaker 13: this guy who is, again, won't disavow the Muslim Brotherhood,
- 34:53Speaker 13: but also goes out and says the crazy leftist stuff
- 34:56Speaker 13: that he has to say to get the college educated
- 34:59Speaker 13: liberals to vote for him in a place like Michigan.
- 35:01Speaker 13: And yeah, one asks real questions. Is Abdul Al-Sayed just
- 35:05Speaker 13: a crazy progressive? Is he a Muslim extremist who's willing
- 35:08Speaker 13: to lie about the other stuff?
- 35:11Speaker 1: A lot to do here. Yeah, what I like is
- 35:13Speaker 1: how he always turns it around, right? When he's asked
- 35:16Speaker 1: if Israel is more of a threat than Iran, he
- 35:18Speaker 1: says it's a ridiculous hypothetical, but he doesn't actually answer
- 35:21Speaker 1: the question. When he's asked to disavow the Muslim Brotherhood,
- 35:24Speaker 1: he turns it around on this dude at the town
- 35:26Speaker 1: hall saying, well, have you disavowed the Muslim Brotherhood? They're
- 35:29Speaker 1: playing games. They think they can still kind of slide
- 35:32Speaker 1: in under this political correct covering, and they think no
- 35:35Speaker 1: one's actually going to call him because his name is
- 35:37Speaker 1: Abdul Al-Sayed, on the affiliations and connections that he and
- 35:41Speaker 1: his family have with incredibly troubling organizations. I mean, as
- 35:45Speaker 1: an attorney, what does it tell you? If you were
- 35:47Speaker 1: talking to a witness and they refused to give you
- 35:49Speaker 1: a straight answer and they just refused to say, no,
- 35:53Speaker 1: I'm not affiliated with them, I do disavow the Muslim Brotherhood,
- 35:55Speaker 1: what do you think it means?
- 35:58Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty obvious what it means. It
- 36:00Speaker 13: means that he's not disavowing the Muslim Brotherhood. But, you know,
- 36:03Speaker 13: just saying, yes, I disavow them, I frankly.
- 36:07Speaker 13: Forgive me for thinking that a politician might lie, but
- 36:09Speaker 13: that's not far enough. You know, JFK, you know, Contra
- 36:13Speaker 13: Abdul El-Sayed was very clear when he was asked, like,
- 36:16Speaker 13: will you be, you know, beholden to the pope if
- 36:18Speaker 13: you're president? He didn't just say, no, don't worry about it.
- 36:20Speaker 13: He explained what he wanted to be and what he
- 36:22Speaker 13: did not want to be. And it was a satisfying answer.
- 36:25Speaker 13: And even in a time that was fairly anti-Catholic here,
- 36:27Speaker 13: he still won. Abdul El-Sayed, if he was serious, would
- 36:31Speaker 13: say something like, no, yes, I disavow the Muslim Brotherhood.
- 36:35Speaker 13: Here's why.
- 36:36Speaker 10: I'm an American.
- 36:37Speaker 13: I believe in the American Constitution. I don't, in fact,
- 36:39Speaker 13: believe in wanting to turn America into a caliphate. He
- 36:43Speaker 13: doesn't say those things. Makes you question why.
- 36:46Speaker 1: And the problem is, is it's not a hypothetical in
- 36:48Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. In the state of Michigan, you've
- 36:49Speaker 1: got multiple cities. like Hamtramck and Dearborn, where they sort
- 36:53Speaker 1: of look like what you're seeing on the streets in
- 36:55Speaker 1: some of these European communities, not necessarily with the rioting,
- 36:58Speaker 1: but the invasion of a number of Muslim populations that
- 37:02Speaker 1: have kind of taken over the cultural epicenters of these places.
- 37:06Speaker 1: So I think people are concerned when Abdul Al-Sayed refuses
- 37:10Speaker 1: to distance himself from aggressive tactics, right, and I think intimidation,
- 37:15Speaker 1: and as you noted, affiliations with terrorist activity, then I think,
- 37:20Speaker 1: and people look at what's happening in Europe right now,
- 37:21Speaker 1: and they see all the Palestinian flags. And as you noted,
- 37:24Speaker 1: there's this red-green alliance that's having a foothold in a
- 37:27Speaker 1: number of places in Europe. I think people are connecting dots.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair?
- 37:33Speaker 13: Oh, yeah, of course it's fair. And, you know, I
- 37:34Speaker 13: want to say more than just Well, there are some extremist,
- 37:37Speaker 13: terrorist versions of Islam that people are afraid of, and
- 37:40Speaker 13: maybe he's connected to those. Listen, there's a civilizational problem here, right? Catholicism,
- 37:46Speaker 13: how did the early Christian church spread? People who were
- 37:48Speaker 13: being persecuted by hostile pagan kings were willing to die lovingly,
- 37:52Speaker 13: joyfully for the faith. How did Islam spread? This is
- 37:56Speaker 13: just a historical fact. It's spread by the sword in
- 37:58Speaker 13: the first century of its existence. So to just try
- 38:01Speaker 13: to compare like, oh, a Catholic president and I'm just
- 38:04Speaker 13: going to be a Muslim senator, but we can both
- 38:05Speaker 13: be good Americans. Islam is something fundamentally incompatible with the West.
- 38:10Speaker 1: So what is what would you like to hear?
- 38:12Speaker 6: Right.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Because it's not illegal and it's certainly it's perfectly allowed.
- 38:16Speaker 1: for a Muslim candidate, somebody of the Islamic faith, to
- 38:19Speaker 1: run for political office in this country. And I don't
- 38:22Speaker 1: think it's fair that every Muslim would have to disavow
- 38:26Speaker 1: Islamic extremism or terrorism necessarily. But I don't think in
- 38:29Speaker 1: Abdul El-Sayed's case, it's just that. It's these other affiliations.
- 38:33Speaker 1: He lied about the fact that his family has been connected,
- 38:36Speaker 1: as evidenced by his sister-in-law's tweets. He's lied about the fact,
- 38:40Speaker 1: or he has refused to distance himself from Hasan Piker
- 38:43Speaker 1: and the number of comments he's made. And when you
- 38:45Speaker 1: bring in Zoran Mamdani, who shares that connection with Hasan Piker,
- 38:49Speaker 1: and you see what Mamdani does in terms of handing
- 38:51Speaker 1: the pen to somebody who defended al-Qaeda on the anniversary
- 38:54Speaker 1: of 9-11, I think people make connections and affiliations. So
- 38:58Speaker 1: I guess, is there anything he could say that would
- 39:01Speaker 1: appease concerns that you and others have that would say,
- 39:05Speaker 1: all right, let's just judge him on the merits of
- 39:07Speaker 1: his policy positions, which, by the way, I think are
- 39:09Speaker 1: problematic in their own right. But what could he say,
- 39:12Speaker 1: what should he say if he wants to kind of
- 39:14Speaker 1: put these questions, this line of questioning into bed?
- 39:18Speaker 13: Yeah, to appease the average voter in Michigan, I don't know.
- 39:21Speaker 13: But for me, I'd say, listen, there are different strains
- 39:24Speaker 13: of Islam throughout history. There have been more moderate, secularized governments.
- 39:28Speaker 13: There have been long periods in the Turkish, Ottoman, Empire's
- 39:30Speaker 13: history where it was more able to be multicultural, compatible
- 39:34Speaker 13: with Western nations. I want to hear some explanation of, yes,
- 39:38Speaker 13: I'm a Muslim, I'm this kind of Muslim, and it's
- 39:40Speaker 13: compatible with being an American citizen and a U.S.
- 39:43Speaker 10: Senator.
- 39:43Speaker 13: Because short of that, it's reasonable to have these questions.
- 39:47Speaker 1: Well, and if there's one thing to take away from
- 39:48Speaker 1: these town halls, these questions will continue. No matter how aggressive,
- 39:52Speaker 1: and if you'll pardon the phrase, militant, Abdul El-Sayed's responses
- 39:55Speaker 1: tend to be. Frank DeVito, thank you for joining us tonight.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Pleasure to be here.
- 39:59Speaker 7: Thanks, Eric.
- 40:00Speaker 1: Up next, riots, looting, and buildings on fire. Doesn't Europe
- 40:05Speaker 1: sound fantastic? We're going to talk to how all that
- 40:07Speaker 1: glitters is not gold in Europe right after this.
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- 40:51Speaker 2: We stand with Europe, despite its flaws, its weaknesses. And
- 40:56Speaker 2: hopefully in— it's going to be temporary, what's going on there,
- 40:59Speaker 2: because I watched that and I just am amazed.
- 41:02Speaker 7: I could see it coming.
- 41:03Speaker 2: I could see it coming 10 years ago, it was happening.
- 41:07Speaker 2: But if they don't soon find their way— and they
- 41:09Speaker 2: have to find their way— we will have no choice
- 41:13Speaker 2: but to leave.
- 41:14Speaker 7: To leave.
- 41:16Speaker 2: We will have no choice. It's a very serious situation.
- 41:19Speaker 1: It is, as President Trump noted, the very definition of
- 41:23Speaker 1: a serious situation. Europe is facing an existential crisis, and
- 41:27Speaker 1: the window to make things better is really closing fast,
- 41:30Speaker 1: especially in a place like France, where revolution, at this point,
- 41:33Speaker 1: seems unavoidable. The appeal to European life is similar to
- 41:37Speaker 1: going green, right? Like on some level, at some stage
- 41:40Speaker 1: of your life, you can talk yourself into wanting to
- 41:41Speaker 1: make a lifestyle change. So maybe you give up meat and,
- 41:45Speaker 1: I don't know, ditch your car for public transportation. But
- 41:48Speaker 1: then two weeks later, you find yourself at a bus
- 41:49Speaker 1: stop feeling weak because you haven't eaten anything in a while.
- 41:52Speaker 1: And now you're being asked for cigarettes and lottery tickets
- 41:55Speaker 1: by the local transients. This is what happens at bus stops.
- 41:57Speaker 1: We see this happen all the time, and the regret
- 42:00Speaker 1: is becoming way more common. After President Trump won in 2024,
- 42:04Speaker 1: traffic location websites jumped hundreds of percentages, and people moving
- 42:08Speaker 1: to countries like Ireland doubled. Now, according to an article
- 42:12Speaker 1: out today, many of those people that moved after the
- 42:14Speaker 1: election are experiencing buyer's remorse. This article in Wired profiles
- 42:19Speaker 1: several Americans who regret leaving the U.S. for places like
- 42:22Speaker 1: the U.K. and Spain because, if you can imagine, the
- 42:25Speaker 1: reality doesn't align with their expectation. Imagine that they're actually
- 42:29Speaker 1: not treated that well just because they're Americans. They don't
- 42:32Speaker 1: like it. They also don't like the difficulty of finding
- 42:35Speaker 1: a decent job. And they can't stand the reality of
- 42:37Speaker 1: Europe's socialist health care system. Wait times in medical care
- 42:41Speaker 1: for Europe are actually unprecedented right now. More than 10%
- 42:45Speaker 1: of patients in the UK have to wait over a
- 42:47Speaker 1: year just to see a specialist. And that's not even
- 42:50Speaker 1: the worst of it. Europe is also facing an energy
- 42:53Speaker 1: crisis because their gas reserves are running low. So much
- 42:56Speaker 1: for listening to Greta Thunberg. And now, with mass migration
- 42:59Speaker 1: and violent protests, everything is so much worse in Europe.
- 43:03Speaker 1: But hey, at least the expats don't have to live
- 43:05Speaker 1: in a country with a president they don't like. Joining
- 43:07Speaker 1: us now to discuss this is a man who has
- 43:09Speaker 1: never made a move he regretted, executive editor of the
- 43:12Speaker 1: Daily Wire and host of the Morning Wire podcast, John Bickley. John,
- 43:16Speaker 1: I know that you're the handsomest man in podcasting.
- 43:19Speaker 5: Indeed.
- 43:19Speaker 1: But what do you make of this move now? You
- 43:23Speaker 1: said all these people that left in 2024 and now
- 43:25Speaker 1: they're just kind of holding, I would say they're holding
- 43:27Speaker 1: a bag, but you can't get a bag in European
- 43:29Speaker 1: grocery stores. They're just holding their groceries. They're dropping them everywhere.
- 43:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Greta Thunberg because she conveniently
- 43:37Speaker 3: showed up at the France riots to try to make
- 43:39Speaker 3: this about her omni-cause, right?
- 43:42Speaker 12: But, you know, look, it's interesting. This article with Wired,
- 43:45Speaker 12: I don't.
- 43:45Speaker 3: Know how many articles with Wired that I've been this
- 43:47Speaker 3: interested in. It's gone completely viral. It's almost at two
- 43:51Speaker 3: million views on X alone. People are very interested in this.
- 43:56Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of schadenfreude, frankly, from the right.
- 43:59Speaker 3: for what's going on here. But what we're seeing is
- 44:02Speaker 3: reality slapping people in the face with the really exceptionalism
- 44:07Speaker 3: of America. You build it into something that is not
- 44:12Speaker 3: here if you live in these bubbles. There's a media bubble,
- 44:15Speaker 3: there's an online bubble, there's an education bubble that all
- 44:18Speaker 3: tells you that America is this horrible place that it's oppressive,
- 44:23Speaker 3: that because you don't like how the president tweets, it's
- 44:26Speaker 3: somewhere you have to flee because anywhere is better than this.
- 44:29Speaker 3: And then you go try some of these other places,
- 44:31Speaker 3: and the reality is pretty stark. And, you know, we laugh.
- 44:35Speaker 3: A lot of it's actually really, really sad. We're seeing
- 44:38Speaker 3: this in France.
- 44:39Speaker 12: It is a disaster. It's chaos.
- 44:40Speaker 3: We've actually talked to a few experts who say they
- 44:43Speaker 3: do not have the police resources.
- 44:46Speaker 12: To respond to this. You can see this here.
- 44:47Speaker 3: The riot police, they don't have enough to actually regain
- 44:51Speaker 3: control of their cities. The reason is they're wasting their
- 44:55Speaker 3: money on all kinds of other things. I looked up
- 44:59Speaker 3: how much you spend in taxes in France. 45% of
- 45:03Speaker 3: the gross domestic product is actually sucked up into the
- 45:11Speaker 3: tax situation in France. 45% of the money. And where
- 45:14Speaker 3: does it go? Well, it's not going to police. It's
- 45:17Speaker 3: going to wasted programs. It's actually going to programs that
- 45:19Speaker 3: draw in immigrants, one of the things, in hordes, but
- 45:25Speaker 3: also wasted on all kinds of efforts. We've seen some
- 45:27Speaker 3: of that here in the US over the last few years,
- 45:30Speaker 3: and the Trump administration really reversing course on that. But
- 45:34Speaker 3: there's a humor to this. getting what maybe some people
- 45:37Speaker 3: think they deserve by learning what's actually the reality here.
- 45:40Speaker 12: But there's also there's a tragic element to this.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Well, it's tragic, but I think it's mostly humorous. But
- 45:45Speaker 1: you're right, because you take, you know, like you said,
- 45:47Speaker 1: a slap in the face. I'm picturing being slapped in
- 45:49Speaker 1: the face with a European glove that used to smell
- 45:52Speaker 1: like cigarettes. But now it smells like rubble burning in
- 45:56Speaker 1: the streets. 45% of the GDP being snatched up by taxes.
- 46:00Speaker 1: So we're keeping score at home. They don't have energy.
- 46:03Speaker 1: They don't have good health care. They don't have law enforcement.
- 46:06Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else remains is the bare bones
- 46:09Speaker 1: of basic societal and civic expectations. And that is unfortunately
- 46:13Speaker 1: being presented for the world to see. It's happening in France.
- 46:17Speaker 1: It's happening in Italy. If they really are facing a
- 46:20Speaker 1: law enforcement crisis, as you're suggesting, what's the end game here?
- 46:24Speaker 1: I mean, because I don't think we're expecting France to
- 46:27Speaker 1: have this moment where they step up and have put
- 46:29Speaker 1: the heavy foot down militarily or from a police standpoint.
- 46:32Speaker 1: I think we're going to be waiting for a long time.
- 46:34Speaker 10: Right.
- 46:35Speaker 3: Macron literally flees the country during the middle of this.
- 46:38Speaker 3: The only solution is the military, full military forces in
- 46:42Speaker 3: the streets. to regain control. There are signals that they're
- 46:47Speaker 3: gonna do some of that. I guarantee you it's gonna
- 46:49Speaker 3: be pretty mild. The police do not feel empowered. They
- 46:53Speaker 3: are afraid to make arrests. So it's a situation that's
- 46:57Speaker 3: likely to keep going on.
- 46:58Speaker 12: It's been weeks already. It's been over a month, I believe.
- 47:02Speaker 3: This is gonna go on for weeks unless Macron turns
- 47:04Speaker 3: into magically somebody else. Meanwhile, the UK, so the UK
- 47:08Speaker 3: comes up in this Wired article. It's having its own problems.
- 47:12Speaker 3: There's starting to be uprising from citizens there to stop
- 47:16Speaker 3: the migrants coming over in these boats. That's been something
- 47:19Speaker 3: they've never seen before, this kind of action from civilians.
- 47:24Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens in the UK. Meanwhile, just
- 47:27Speaker 3: the actual experience of living there. The truth is in America,
- 47:31Speaker 3: we're used to feeling like kind of a limitless sense
- 47:34Speaker 3: of possibilities here. You don't have that in these countries
- 47:38Speaker 3: where you have 45% of your money going to taxes.
- 47:42Speaker 12: There is a limit on how much you can make.
- 47:43Speaker 3: There's a limit on how much you can do as
- 47:46Speaker 3: an independent business owner, for example. And that sense is
- 47:50Speaker 3: really depressing. And I think when people leave this country,
- 47:53Speaker 3: and experience that.
- 47:54Speaker 12: You got to be there.
- 47:55Speaker 3: You can't just go on vacation. You go live to
- 47:57Speaker 3: some of these other countries for a few months. You
- 48:00Speaker 3: start to feel the oppressive weight of that. And just,
- 48:03Speaker 3: I hope that in the end, people are just appreciative
- 48:06Speaker 3: of living here.
- 48:07Speaker 5: I know I am. I am.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Like you said, I've never made a false move, moved
- 48:11Speaker 3: to Tennessee from Florida. Florida's great. Tennessee's great. We have
- 48:15Speaker 3: some great free states that we both live in.
- 48:17Speaker 1: Well, and I know you used to live in California, too,
- 48:19Speaker 1: which I do believe explains why you look like you're
- 48:21Speaker 1: going to go leave some kind of like weekend workshop
- 48:24Speaker 1: for yogis or something.
- 48:25Speaker 3: But that might sound like a mistake by me. I
- 48:28Speaker 3: was forced to do that.
- 48:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:29Speaker 12: That was not my choice.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Here's the irony is the people that left America to
- 48:34Speaker 1: go move to Europe. They're now going to have to
- 48:36Speaker 1: deal with, as you just noted, it's such a good point.
- 48:38Speaker 1: They're going to have to deal with military in the
- 48:41Speaker 1: streets to quell the riots. Ironically, what was one of
- 48:45Speaker 1: the more controversial moves President Trump has made during his
- 48:49Speaker 1: second administration? Literally deploying military assets to try to enforce
- 48:53Speaker 1: immigration and border enforcement. And of course, we saw how
- 48:57Speaker 1: the leftist governments in these cities pushed back. Imagine being
- 49:00Speaker 1: one of those people. You packed up all your stuff.
- 49:02Speaker 1: You shipped your electric Prius overseas. You're all ready to go.
- 49:07Speaker 1: And now you've got Euro police in the streets instead
- 49:10Speaker 1: of dealing with American police. What a world we live in,
- 49:12Speaker 1: John Bickley.
- 49:13Speaker 3: But you've got Macron, who is much better at tweeting, man.
- 49:18Speaker 3: He's not insulting people. In fact, he's... he's actually celebrating
- 49:21Speaker 3: and praising the rioters. So you got that.
- 49:23Speaker 1: It's such a wild world, you know, and it does
- 49:26Speaker 1: speak to the importance of America and the importance of
- 49:28Speaker 1: President Trump on the global stage because, as you noted,
- 49:31Speaker 1: President Macron literally flees, goes to, I believe, a Celine
- 49:34Speaker 1: Dion concert while literally the streets.
- 49:37Speaker 12: Of France are burning. All kinds of bad choices here.
- 49:39Speaker 1: And it's not just in France, you've seen it in Italy,
- 49:41Speaker 1: you've seen it in Portugal, you've seen it in Spain.
- 49:44Speaker 1: Is this, are we seeing evidence that this is not
- 49:47Speaker 1: entirely organic, that a lot of this is being astroturfed?
- 49:50Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely.
- 49:51Speaker 3: So we looked at this, Fox News, to give them
- 49:53Speaker 3: a shout out, they did a great study on this.
- 49:55Speaker 3: I think it's 54 different organizations they tracked that are
- 49:59Speaker 3: the most active in promoting the riots and organizing the
- 50:02Speaker 3: riots in France. And less than a third of them
- 50:06Speaker 3: have anything to do with students. and almost all of
- 50:09Speaker 3: them far-left Marxist or Islamist groups. So it is very organized,
- 50:16Speaker 3: and you can actually see footage of this, crates of
- 50:19Speaker 3: bottles being brought, delivered right on cue for the rioters
- 50:23Speaker 3: to take up and start throwing at people and throwing
- 50:25Speaker 3: at windows. This is an organized opportunity here for the
- 50:31Speaker 3: far-left and Islamic groups alliance that's happening.
- 50:35Speaker 12: A lot of people are calling this the red-green alliance.
- 50:37Speaker 12: You see that. Look at the footage. Look at the flags.
- 50:40Speaker 12: It's very clear.
- 50:41Speaker 1: NICK SCHIFRIN Well, between the red-green alliance, astroturfing the protests,
- 50:44Speaker 1: between the boats, as you suggested, literally arriving on the
- 50:48Speaker 1: shores of the United Kingdom, and between the takeover of
- 50:51Speaker 1: these different countries and the erosion of the inherent cultural
- 50:54Speaker 1: equity that used to exist in places like France and
- 50:57Speaker 1: like Italy, It's why you're hearing some people use the
- 50:59Speaker 1: word takeover, John. And I think it's something that none
- 51:02Speaker 1: of those people who left this country after the 2024
- 51:04Speaker 1: election were expecting. And I think the reality is hitting
- 51:07Speaker 1: them all too abruptly. So it's a difficult situation. It
- 51:11Speaker 1: is amusing on some level. But as you noted, there
- 51:13Speaker 1: are very real consequences for it. John Bickley, Daily Wire,
- 51:16Speaker 1: Morning Wire, excellent job as always. Great to see you.
- 51:19Speaker 12: Thanks so much.
- 51:20Speaker 1: That'll do it for tonight. We are all out of time.
- 51:23Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for another Real America. If
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