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Ep. 1109 Crossing Iceland by Foot - Jonathan Morsicato Revisited · Adventure Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the Adventure Sports podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk with adventurers from around the globe to bring you the inspiration and motivation you need to get started in the outdoors or to keep you moving if you're already there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's your host, Kurt Lindill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey friends, thanks for listening to the Adventure Sports podcast today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a revisited episode from twenty twenty three so it's a couple of years old and
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[SPEAKER_02]: The guest was Jonathan Marcecato, and the subject was crossing Iceland on foot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm excited about this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My family and I were blessed enough to get to Iceland several years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've never seen such a unique landscape.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never experienced such unique weather.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the whole experience was just very adventurous and very very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I will give you one travel tip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The flights to get there didn't cost much, which was great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But once we were there, being there cost a lot of money, it's an island nation, very very expensive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just before warned, a delightful experience, matter of fact, one of my bucket list items,
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[SPEAKER_02]: is to go back to Iceland and ride a motorcycle first, around the coastline all the way around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I want to get a different motorcycle, a dual sport in Durro something like that, and I want to start crossing over the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in several different routes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see the whole island and campus we go and write it out in the weather on a motorcycle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of my big dreams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, this episode is about walking across Iceland with Mason doing the interviewing, so you know it's going to be fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening, and now here are Mason and Jonathan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey folks, this is Mason Gravly, the host of Adventure Sports podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Today we're talking to Jonathan Morsekato about crossing Iceland on foot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a hundred and seventy miles and five and a half days with about twenty thousand feet in vertical elevation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: again and so amazing adventure lots of planning trip of the lifetime for a lot of folks yeah you heard about a little bit about Johnny's story what's going on and what what we're gonna talk about today and you probably saw the title you know it's gonna have something to do with traversing Iceland that's what they know uh but we're gonna welcome the man who did it Johnny Morsekato welcome to the show
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks for having me Mason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely a cool adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually did it with my brother Ed Bossert too, so it wasn't just me fjording the Highlands on my own.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to hear about that because that was a really interesting part of it that I want to hear about like the dynamics of doing this with family and all your parents were like super stoked and jumped on board to like be around.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But one day I'll always ask is where are you coming from today?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where's home for you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it looks bright out the window.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that just the sun or is there snow on the ground?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the sun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, uh, I'm in Conifer, Colorado, and it's like fifty degrees out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No snow left on the ground around me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Has it been snowed?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the last couple weeks it's been I've been snowing a bit and then like right before Thanksgiving we had like two weeks of just absolutely frigid cold like seven eight degree days for weeks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like so it's nice to be in the warmth now and yeah, Connor for I used to have I've driven through Connor for so many times on my way to
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[SPEAKER_03]: The San Luis Valley is like my favorite area in Colorado when we live there and you're just going down to the song graze or over to some of the collegiate peaks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Man, what a great area.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So are you from there?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that home or you're just finding yourself there right now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, this is home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my girlfriend and I are trying to buy a house right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we moved in my parents for, you know, the last month trying to save some money and then they're going to try and make it through the housing market and see if we can find anything or just resort back to writing around somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been nice being back home up here because it's so quiet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been living in downtown Denver for the last two years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I was going to ask where was where were you before that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, two different worlds there downtown Denver in Conifer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're not
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[SPEAKER_03]: super far away from Denver, which is probably nice, but also definitely out in the mountains at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely feels safer to ride my bike out here too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, bike around Denver is terrifying, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Being from there, and knowing some of the things you're into, knowing some of the adventures you've done, did you grow up in a family that kind of did all this stuff?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it's almost unavoidable growing up in like a mountain town in Colorado that you would be an adventure, but you tell me what were you doing as a child, what did your family have you doing, what were y'all's interests?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, my family's a little bit adventurous, but I definitely did not grow up going to the mountains or exploring really at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually, I was totally immersed in like martial arts as a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I started in like the ATA tech window system and taught in that for, you know, I got up to my third degree black belt in ATA and then I ended up adopting a more traditional martial art.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was doing martial arts nonstop until it was probably a teen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on top of that, I was really into playing cello.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I would go to Marshall Arts class and I would go home and practice cello and then I was going to art school during the day for high school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not really to adventure at all for almost most of my youth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why that's why what we get into is kids and what's important and then what ends up being important later on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I grew up in an area that was surrounded by wilderness and I get almost didn't even notice because I had other interests like billiards, a random one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was super into pool and then basketball and it was like now I go back and and think oh my gosh look at all these things that were around me that I just I didn't really really appreciate now it right but I don't know if you feel that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's been crazy because like, you know, we've been up here for a month and I've probably ran six trails I've never seen in my entire life, you know, like these these things that were all around me growing up and I've I've never once even walked over to check them out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Growing up there, there's trails that you discover.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I agree, I go back home and I'm like, just the other day, there's a road I've passed my whole life and I said, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never gone down that road.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's down that road?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's down that dirt road?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I drove and it was just all these things I'd never seen before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Little ponds and just little fields and valleys and cool little features that I was just like,
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[SPEAKER_03]: How have I just never come down here in my thirty-plus years driving this road or being around here?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How have I just never explored this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it does show anyone out there because I know a lot of people listen to this show like who wish they were from a place like Conifer or from a place in the mountains or were in a place like that right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is something around you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There are things, gems and treats and things around you that you don't even know are there that you would absolutely love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just got to almost kind of see it differently.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's cool how like coming up here with an adventurous perspective, because it's like, you know, you get on a bike and you can ride to your creed canyon, which is like a pretty pop, dealer hill climb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I can take my gravel bike down to some trails that are just a couple miles down the road.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's all stuff that I just had never seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like in my younger side of life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now it's like a whole new world up here, you know, and I just love it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: talking a little bit about your background where you grew up, you know, it sounds like you have some siblings, at least one brother ed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Any other siblings and any others that are kind of into this kind of stuff because it sounds, I don't know if ed was into this, but I know that y'all did this adventure together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ed is the most relatable to me when it comes to like, you know, interest in adventurous type activities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have seven other siblings or six other siblings, including Ed, uh, not all from the same parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's all steps siblings or adopted siblings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I only grew up with three of them in the rest of them were a lot older than me when I was younger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I only really connected with Ed and my two sisters that I grew up with, but we just do like dinners and hang out now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, yeah, same situation here, two biological siblings, and I think four steps of siblings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, definitely a same world I was in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So tell us about where this trip came from.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was the idea behind this trip across Iceland?
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[SPEAKER_03]: How do you even think that up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where was the inspiration and what was the process of going, you know, can I do this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the the origin story of the trip was a back in twenty fourteen me and a couple buddies just like loaded up some backpacking bags and stuffed it with thirty days worth of food.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bags ended up being like seventy pounds of peace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we figured we were just going to go get off the plane in Iceland and just start backpacking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we definitely were not in shape to do any sort of backpacking adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we just like had seen stories and kind of thought you could just get used to it and start walking, you know, twenty thirty miles a day and we definitely did not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We made it like six miles a day and it took us like ten days to do a simple little backpacking loop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I remember in the middle of that trip, I was we were camped out up in the Highlands in Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember looking out north thinking about how cool it would be to just cross all the way to the other side and see the ocean up in the north side of the island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was only like, you know, from wherever you're camped, like, a hundred and seventy miles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought it would be cool to come back when I was older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And originally I was going to bike it, but I just never really got that into biking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got sucked into running instead and decided to be cool to
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just go solo adventure and try and run across north to south.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And include the track that I did when I was a kid, which was the Land Manelogger hike out of the southern side of Iceland and up to Land Manelogger, which is like the Highlands Hot Springs area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was really sucked into kind of recreating this trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my brother and I were on this snowkiting adventure in Fairview, Utah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he, you know, I kept talking about Iceland with him and like, you know, that, you know, I was thinking about going in August thinking about running it myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he just suddenly was like, hey, you know, like, I kind of would like to maybe join you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never done something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can just put together a trading plan and see if it'll work out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I immediately shifted gears and thought, I guess it would be way cooler to do it as a adventure with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of reconnect because we'd been separated for probably five or six years at this point, because he'd moved out to LA to become a stuntman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, that's pretty real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just bought tickets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so I mean, we came from that martial arts background, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so as not, yeah, not original, but just unique, definitely unique.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I mean, he, he was in a totally different world living in, in Hollywood.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He, he had just finished his first feature film in the highway men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, he, I think he, he got to do a bunch of like stunt driving and an old like Ford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got to act as Clyde in a bonding Clyde movie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he was kind of leading with some money and looking for some adventure and jumped in on board with the Iceland trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we started talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I mentioned it to my parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And my parents decided like, oh, it might be cool to jump into and just do our own thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then it suddenly turned into this like whole group family adventure, which I was not expecting at all at the time, because I was like, you know, I was ready to go get my backpack and just go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it is, in hindsight, it was really cool to have the opportunity in time to have that come together because I think, you know, frequently in life, like there's either like, you know, parents are too busy or your siblings are too busy or your friends are too busy and it's just hard to all connect at the same level in the same point in time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just worked out that way that we all got to go together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That is awesome, man.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the older you get, I don't know if you've heard this stat or have seen it somewhere, but like you spend, I think, eighty percent of all the time you'll ever spend with your parents when you leave the house.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Usually for college or graduating high school or whatever it is, whatever time that is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that might be a little different now, but that's kind of the
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[SPEAKER_03]: The point is you spend the vast majority of time with your parents and they from their perspective with their children By the time they're gone, you know now you're just fighting for little scraps of time here and there and I've seen it in my life and so Any time those stars do a line and you're able to do something together it gets increasingly more special and more And in turn you should be more appreciative so yeah, you're totally right that is
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[SPEAKER_03]: Really unique how did you feel about them everyone jumping on board was that wearing you at all or did that feel like no the more the merrier?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean yeah, I'm kind of like a go with the flow guys, so I feel
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, at the time, I was like, oh, yeah, sounds great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, as the trips started getting closer, like I realized, you know, I did have some anxieties about like, you know, traveling as a family and like going to a rental car place in a foreign country and, you know, just like the small little logistical things that happened along an adventure and dealing with them with my parents who are, you know, they're a little older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My dad was seven, seven at the time of the trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he'd been retired and hanging out and calling for a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was a little anxious to see like how everyone was gonna do on this like kind of grand adventure at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally understandable.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely could get that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as the plan came together, did it all, it changed the original, was the original idea of going north of South, across the entire country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was that pretty much,
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[SPEAKER_03]: the same throughout and how did you select the route?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it a road?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it trail?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Where did you find that information?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what did you end up doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the route I literally just made on Gaia one day when I was I was like on a road trip with a corner and I put together like a little route that I thought would be fun to do that was, you know, it connected north from that spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking about on that trip with my friends in high school
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I put the route together and realize I didn't put into consideration like water, I didn't consider, you know, where they're actually trails there, what the elevation gain was like, I just thought it would be cool to see what was north of where I was at that time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, in hindsight of the trip, it would have been cool to go, you know, do some of the more picturesque routes up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just like, for me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: completing this loop of when I was younger and not as involved in this kind of adventurous lifestyle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And just seeing that through like all the way across the island.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I made the route, I literally just went from where I was in twenty fourteen, which was in Land Manilogger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then connected it all the way up to Akarari, which is like this, the northernmost town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: along the rim road, right in this little fjord, if you look at the Iceland map.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so tell us about, get in there and tell us about, what were some of the unique things that you had to bring with you?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What was some of the gear that was crucial for this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The gear selection was kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were trying to do it in six days at the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with that we want to be able to kind of run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my goal was to keep the packs below twenty five pounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that way we could at least jog or, you know, kind of do like a fast walk for most of the trip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we started loading up the packs, it was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know it came down to a decision between we either bring a tent or we bring a sleeping bag and so we left our sleeping bags so we had shelter and just resorted to using only down jackets and like you know thick pants for sleeping at night with a pillow and carrying enough food for the five days which you know the the food we had to pick super calorie dense food for
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[SPEAKER_01]: essentially any meal we had so like anytime we make coffee it was bulletproof coffee with you know ghee and powdered coconut milk in it and the breakfasts are always the same kind of thing like
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, heated up powdered coconut milk with ghee, granola, cashews, like lots of nuts, lots of protein stuff, and lots of carbs to replace the energy we were burning every day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we were, when it came down to picking the gear, I was a little nervous because we, you know, we weren't necessarily able to survive a super cold winter storm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we were really close to some of the efforts, so I figured that if we ended up in a bad spot, we could resort to getting out to the efforts and hitchhike back out of the highlands if we needed to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What were you seeing out there described just the scenery, the conditions of the paths you were using to tell us about that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, the, the scenery is really interesting because you start in Okarei.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the, on the first day we started, I picked like an N one gas station as our start point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really wanted to, to leave from the first point of ocean in Okarei and end back in that location.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were in in twenty fourteen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the starting point is literally like in the middle of a city like, you know, walking from the middle of Denver or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's lots of cars going by, lots of stuff happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you start hiking south.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you go, it's like the hotels and the coffee shops kind of turn into farm equipment, turn into hay bales, you know, the fences get smaller and smaller and the cars, turns into tractors and the people turn into sheep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, as you get more and more south, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this taking away, like as you leave the city, suddenly everything gets stripped away from the landscape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that happens more and more drastically as you elevate into the highlands, because when you're right at the ocean level, you have all that green grass and lots of livestock that are around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then as soon as you break up into the highlands of Iceland, it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, somebody has just scoured the surface and life has gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just, you know, black pebbles, volcanic rock, jagged little peaks and glaciers on the horizon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the transition from that on the first day was extremely aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then for the remainder of the trip, you're just in that volcanic landscape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so the scenery changes in that insane after the first day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the remainder, it was more of an internal experience as you went because the landscape was sometimes uninspiring to the point where it would force you to look more inside of yourself for the adventure of the day than looking outside of like a big desert of lava rock.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We had
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tom last year, or what gosh, what was this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, last year Tom Johnstone from the UK on who bikeed across Iceland and he was talking about how much obsidian there was on the ground that was like tire shredding, like you had to be really careful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have to deal with that as well?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you get some of those river crossings, it's like, you know, you don't want to risk slicing your foot open on that obsidian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it's ubiquitous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's everywhere, you know, like, and it comes in like these big swaths that kind of invade that kind of dusty pebbably landscape that most of the highlands are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when we were crossing the river, we would have to be pretty cautious on picking our route because it would just, you know, it'd be a trip end or if one of us were to slice our foot, you know, to shreds on a piece of obsidian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Geez, that's wild.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, did you end up seeing other people?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it busy or was it pretty isolated?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Totally isolated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were on some parts of the route.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We were pretty close to the efforts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when we were in that, like in those areas, you'd see like, you know, these cars coming by and like it'd be tourist bundled up and these puffy jackets with fresh latte is coming from town.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, at the time, like, my brother and I had already been in the Highlands or something for like two days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, we're like, you just start to feel like an alien.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You watch these people go by you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, you already feel like a fixture in landscape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just there for, like, this temporary little, like, driving, drink the latte, go to the hot springs and leave.
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, for the first couple days, it was fun to see that.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But then, like, on the third and fourth day, maybe we'd get a little bit of, like, a little bit of jealousy.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe we should just get in the car.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go back to author area or write a vac and just, you know, have some beers.
23:57
[SPEAKER_03]: there is nothing that sounds better when you're out there in the elements and it's like I used to do bike touring and you'd be out there on the road so you'd obviously interact with vehicles and you'd be at some pull off on some desolate highway exhausted you know wondering where your next meal is going to be your food or you're worrying about water or just something you're worried about something that's that's a little more basic
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[SPEAKER_03]: which is why you're out there.
24:22
[SPEAKER_03]: But then you see it big you know RV drive by and the kids are watching Disney Channel in the in the in the RV and they've got snacks and it's just like you're so jealous from how
24:34
[SPEAKER_03]: right for about five minutes and they're like grilling something inside and it's just like oh my god I would do anything for that right now yeah it's fleeting though because you realize you're the one having I'm there having a great experience too but you're having a really moving impactful adventure you know it's all part of it's why you're doing adventure yeah but yeah I totally get it and and Iceland too is Iceland's like it's a very
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm sure you saw this around some of the more populated areas that I very Instagram worthy.
25:05
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of folks going there with their lattes, with their pretty done up, you know, for some photos.
25:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And it seems like that's a place to go that people, people who really like post and go.
25:19
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm sure you did see a lot of that.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, I feel like our stopping point each day,
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[SPEAKER_01]: were like the Instagram spots where you'd like see the cool glaciers or like the cool hot springs or you know something like that and then the moving points between the day because we were on the northern side of the island we're just filled with a lot of long flat just kind of endless black expanses of lava you know
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was like you get a little little tree at the end of the day and then you see like the done up people coming to take the Instagram shots and then the rest of the day it was like it was us, you know.
26:01
[SPEAKER_03]: That is awesome.
26:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have a lot of people asking you what you were doing?
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes, the mostly was the rangers.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So the rangers were getting a little concerned because they, they'd been driving back and forth and, you know, they catch glimpses of us on and off throughout the first like three days we were hiking.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And apparently, when we checked the weather on the way in, it had said that it was all clear for the whole portion of the week.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And the ranges were saying that there was an impending Arctic storm that was coming.
26:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they were getting a little anxious because we were still out there alone.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're camping and going what they thought was too far every day.
26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we ended up becoming kind of friends with this one ranger who just come in like check on us, you know, at least every day after day two and just come and be like, okay, are you guys like still happy?
27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still okay?
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you still warm?
27:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'd be like, oh yeah, we're good man.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And he just drive off and like, okay, well, I'll see you again hopefully.
27:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So that you said they thought you were going too far every day.
27:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were just saying like, push your bodies.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when they would ask us like, oh, where you headed and we'd say, you know, this place that was forty five miles away, they were kind of like, uh, that might be too far for you today on foot.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's, it just comes from the range of side.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, if I were in their shoes and seeing these people doing that, I'd be like, that seems too far, and especially because they don't know us, they don't know the training we put in, you know, they don't know any of that kind of stuff.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just being themselves being worried about people, which, you know, I was totally understandable on their side.
27:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Totally.
27:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's their job.
27:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, if you told me you had to go forty five miles as like a hiker backpacker, I'm like, yeah, that's too far.
28:02
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but not knowing the way you're doing it.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It's doable.
28:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Still still ambitious, nonetheless.
28:10
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's really interesting.
28:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So tell us about that storm that that storming up rolling in or did you make it out in time?
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the storm hit us on a on day three.
28:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the right in the middle.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we, uh, we started to regret our choice and not bringing sleeping bags because we had planned for this, you know, kind of steady, forty, fifty degree mark of weather and the the weather started plummeting into the thirties.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our first night before the storm came, we were at this, I think you caught Nigella hut or something like that.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's at the base of this glacier kind of close to the bat in a local volcano.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were, we'd set up camp and we were, you know, sitting, having a Viking beer that I'd bought from the Ranger station.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And it started raining on the tent.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember just thinking like, I really hope that the rain either turns to snow or that stops raining by the morning because I really don't want to get wet.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: By the morning, the whole peak next to us was covered in snow.
29:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was still raining where we were at.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were just getting this kind of persistent layer of freezing rain coming down on us for all of day three.
29:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were, I mean, at the time we really bombed, but I've always had this kind of fail safe for adventures where I keep my camp closed, totally separate from the daytime closed.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I had like all the warm stuff for the end of the day packed up and ready for when we got our tent set up.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we just powered through the rain and got totally soaked throughout the day.
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And then got back to the camp, you know, and changed it back into our warm camp clothes and bundled up.
30:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the next morning, the rain and snow had passed and it just kind of turned to like a light wind.
30:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: absolutely uh... that just sounds terrible not gonna lie just being cold and wet that's maybe two of the worst uh... parts of adventure for me but again i'm from a very warm area so i'm not used to you know you grew up in it may be you're just a little bit more mentally ready for
30:26
[SPEAKER_03]: for feeling that way and you're probably a lot tougher than me too, so let's just be honest.
30:33
[SPEAKER_03]: That is really smart though, keeping those separate and that's a great tip for anybody out there, make sure you do have those small things to look forward to.
30:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Not only for morale, but for actually being warm and safe, those things can really help get you through a really tough day.
30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get through this storm, and also your parents are there.
30:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So what are your parents doing this whole time?
30:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Are they just hanging out, going and seeing some sites, checking on you at all?
31:03
[SPEAKER_03]: What was their role in all this?
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so I mean, they dropped us off at the end one gas station on the north side of the island.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they went out to the west fjords and stayed on like this Arctic horse farm.
31:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And so there, you know, they're having Arctic char every night in drinking beer.
31:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, I send my one text from the end reach at morning and one text at night.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I get a text back from them that's like, oh, having a great time, like meeting all these Europeans and hanging out.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, went to go see a bunch of local churches and saw the puffins.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Ed and I are just like, you know, shivering and a tent drinking our, you know, our one beer that we've been looking forward to all day at the, you know, the same time, like kind of jealous.
31:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I totally have that you were.
31:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Was there ever point you thought they'd might have to come get you or help out in any way?
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So on the, the second to last day,
32:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I have like some lingering need problems from martial arts just like too many years of you know the board breaking boards and all the jump kicks and stuff from Taekwondo and I like I think some sort of little scar tissue build up in there and it just started to really activate on day four and my knee was starting to swell up and I was
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I had taken, I think I was taking like two ibuprofen in the morning and then two ibuprofen for bed to just kind of keep the swelling down.
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I was honestly starting to feel pretty low in my morale.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And starting to feel like maybe we should just call our parents to come grab us and like, you know, go have fun instead.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And my brother actually was the one who kind of pulled me through it, which was cool because
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was younger, he was such an idol to me.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And we hadn't done much together.
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was like cool to see that he found strength.
33:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was, you know, his legs were hurting too, but he was like, no, like, we're out here to do this.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we should just keep going.
33:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was funny for me at the time, because I've made so much of my identity off of like my ability to suffer.
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And these adventures, like doing the Colorado Fourteeners and just doing more and more peaks and climbing and running.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And that had been in the city for all the time I've been doing that.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think like the time where I was like the most amazing thing for me was to see that I was breaking.
33:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was the one that was there to help pull me out.
33:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was kind of like the camaraderie that was hoping to find out the trip with him too.
33:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that was like probably better that he was with me instead of me just being solo and bailing.
33:46
[SPEAKER_03]: That is so cool.
33:47
[SPEAKER_03]: That is so awesome.
33:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that is one downside.
33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, an upside and a downside to having family.
33:51
[SPEAKER_03]: You were able to lean on your brother in those hard times, but might make it a little bit easier too if your parents are like, yeah, we'll come get you.
33:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
33:59
[SPEAKER_03]: You would have that option if they weren't there.
34:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you learn anything new about your brother or did he learn anything new about you?
34:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't say what he would have learned about me, just because I mean, I don't know what he would say, but definitely and learn more about him throughout the whole journey, like, from the time that we were in Fairview, Utah, like talking about doing to Iceland together to the whole adventure and meeting back up with my parents, like at the end of our trip.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: it was really cool to see him like take on a pretty hardcore training plan and like his whole life changed and his whole perspective on life changed in that time and it was like he would he'd been living in LA and like you know he was really into gymnastics in the stunt community and suddenly you know he took on this training plan that I kind of roughly put together with a friend from
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And then within two months he was like running ultra marathon twice a month and like, you know, he's he was doing all this crazy stuff that I'd never seen him get into.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just getting more and more ecstatic about it.
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just love seeing him like apply the same tenacity that he'd used throughout years in the stunt world to something that was more relatable to me in the adventure world.
35:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I mean, I think for me what I learned about him is that like,
35:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can be, you know, obviously I wouldn't recommend that anybody goes to do like the crossing where we went because it was just kind of arduous and long, but it was cool to see that he could find so much power in himself after, you know, years of just being in the city in like such a wild place.
35:54
[SPEAKER_03]: That is really cool.
35:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned one idea that I thought was really interesting, and I don't know if you want to talk about it or not, but you were talking about some of the challenges of having takeaway and communication with longstanding relationships like family, and it takes just being intentional.
36:17
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you mean by that?
36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think what my conclusion of the trip kind of was is that
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you grow up, like you said, you spend like, eighty percent of your time with family when you're a kid pretty much, right?
36:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then suddenly, like, you know, I'm twenty five.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hadn't been hanging out with them for, you know, eight years.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, then we're trying to rent a car together and we're trying to pick out dinner and we're trying to check into a hotel and like do the stuff that we hadn't done together ever in adult setting.
36:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think what I found interesting is that like it's like I would resort back to my mind as a kid and be like whiny about something or like suddenly start complaining and catch myself.
37:10
[SPEAKER_01]: and realize that it's like, you know, when we would talk as adults, it's like you have all this historical context of your youth built up to that moment in time.
37:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, we're having a conversation about, you know, the rental car being late, but then also you like have all that pressure of like arguments we had in high school and like, you know, times where you felt short, also pushing on that same emotion of interacting and trying to bring a car together.
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's hard to like,
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, separate those things I think in time in the time you're in.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think you have to be pretty intentional to be like, hey, I'm in the moment now.
37:49
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to handle this together.
37:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I'm not going to be a whiny eighteen year old about it because we're all adults here now, you know.
37:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, that's actually really interesting because yeah, eighteen for you.
38:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Not, I mean, it's a while ago, but not crazy long ago, but you're a totally different person.
38:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I've learned so much, but you know, I think that might be a big reason why people don't like running into people from their past, people from high school or people from their hometown because you're almost immediately thrown back into being that person you were.
38:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you despite the growth and despite
38:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a lot of the new experiences you've had.
38:29
[SPEAKER_03]: I think at your core, you're still very similar to that eighteen year old or very similar to that fifteen year old, whatever it is.
38:36
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know when I get around my brothers or my mom and dad.
38:41
[SPEAKER_03]: they almost kind of treat me like I'm still that person a long time ago and in a lot of me is still is that person but uh sometimes that's not the best feeling for people uh and other times that is what you want to do you you like going back to those times but for a lot of us I know that might be a big reason why we avoid a lot of those people from a long time ago oh for sure and I think uh
39:04
[SPEAKER_01]: like in hindsight of the trip that was that was probably my biggest concern is like suddenly I'm in a family situation that is the same as vacationing when I was twelve years old and you know I'm like trying to be in the right mental space to do like kind of a hardcore adventure but then also don't want to be like taking on you know twelve-year-old self to go run across Iceland
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought it was strange to, you know, journal about it after the trip because it was just, it would be so mindful of your communication and it was like so easy to tip back into those constructs you've made as a kid in any moment out there, you know?
39:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
39:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, super interesting.
39:58
[SPEAKER_03]: What else do you think you learned out there?
40:00
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, I forget to ask this, but I know this is a really interesting one for people.
40:05
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you're young.
40:06
[SPEAKER_03]: You're trying to buy a house.
40:08
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot you're trying to do financially.
40:10
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you get ready for these kinds of adventures?
40:12
[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's expense to it and people want to know
40:16
[SPEAKER_03]: just the practicality of making these happens.
40:18
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you fit it into your life?
40:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you work?
40:20
[SPEAKER_03]: What is that situation to go out and do?
40:24
[SPEAKER_03]: What took this many days?
40:25
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, almost a week out there, plus travel time and all that.
40:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've worked a lot of odd jobs.
40:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I got sucked into working events with Red Bull over the last like three years.
40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: because, you know, you can go out and work, you know, a two week event and make a really good day rate, and then you have two weeks off.
40:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I just, I got sucked into it because I loved the freedom of going to do those kind of things.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's made it more difficult since Iceland is that, uh, Connor and I started the charity collective.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's like we're trying to run a startup business, which doesn't necessarily pay lucrurably all the time.
41:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a lot more of a struggle to squeeze in time to make money for the adventures that cost a lot in a lot, seeing a lot of emotional investment, a lot of time investment, a lot of financial investment.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think in the time I was doing Iceland in twenty nineteen,
41:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't too hard because, you know, I worked at a four-week Red Bull event right before the trip.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't hard to pay for it from the event.
41:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But now it's like if I go out and do one of these big adventures, I don't have that same buffer anymore because, you know, we're trying to pull together Coyote to make us enough money and survive and make a living other day.
41:56
[SPEAKER_03]: And tell me what y'all do at Coyote.
42:01
[SPEAKER_01]: We do a boutique marketing content for
42:06
[SPEAKER_01]: throughout door agencies.
42:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So like most recently, we put together an editorial piece for envy composites, which is a carbon wheel company out of Ogden, Utah.
42:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And we went up to Montana and did like a whole story telling editorial and photo series for their new soft goods launch.
42:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we do a lot of little projects like that, but there's
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: the barrier into getting into a market to make a lot of money in that.
42:34
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not a lot just enough money to live is pretty heavy on the time investment side.
42:40
[SPEAKER_03]: What advice do you have for folks that that go out and want to do something like this and maybe a brother or sister or a cousin or maybe some parents be like, you know, I want to do it too.
42:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to I want to go make this happen.
42:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Any advice because I know all sorts of relationships are at varying levels of
43:01
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, agreeability.
43:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know the word.
43:03
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
43:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I would just say, be patient, you know, like take a breath and just make it happen because it'll be worth it in the long run.
43:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, give each other some grace to be the people they are now and not hold twelve-year-old self over all of them, you know?
43:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's next for you?
43:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, currently we're just,
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: working on coyote stuff.
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been, I guess for my own personal projects for adventures, I've been trying to do something called gritting a local forteener.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been running it every month of the calendar year, which has been a fun little motivational thing because it's close by and, you know, it's low time and finance investment.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, just working on coyote.
43:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, thank you so much for jumping on, sharing some stories, talking about
44:03
[SPEAKER_03]: a little bit as sorry for the tech issues early on hopefully we can clean those up but yeah and by the way folks this is Johnny's first podcast interview so so happy to be a part of that you know there's probably a lot smoother than shows out there and maybe some better questions but uh... you did a great job your voice is great you tell great stories and uh... yeah thanks for being on the adventure sports podcast to launch your podcast in career
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks for having me, Mason.
44:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I get a little bit more anxiety speaking in these kind of situations and running or something, so it's fun to try and jump on and do something daily, you know?
44:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, man, you are not the only one.
44:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I've always loved just talking and it's so funny.
44:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be chat with somebody or even a friend of mine, who I really know, like I know them really well, and then I'm like, yeah, we're gonna have you on the show and then we jump on.
44:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're a totally different person they're like so nervous It's so funny because I forget like I forget that you know This is a big thing for a lot of people in the sense of speaking about what they did and and so I gotta keep that in mind So yeah, I appreciate you just stepping out and doing something new and inspiring folks and helping folks see what a what kind of random and cool and and just
45:22
[SPEAKER_03]: making an adventure about out of something that you did before and building on it and going back to places.
45:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's really cool.
45:28
[SPEAKER_03]: So thanks for sharing.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course.
45:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.
45:36
[SPEAKER_02]: hey adventure sports family i have a couple of minutes here i want to talk about what's been going on with the show a little bit and also i'm not quite ready for the big announcement but i've been dropping some teasers about a big adventure coming up that would allow the entire adventure sports podcast family to make a difference in the world so i'm just gonna drop a couple of hints and and soon
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I should be giving the full announcement.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: First, a lot of you have noticed.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We've gone from two episodes a week to three episodes a week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a lot of work.
46:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Most podcasts do one episode a week or fewer, maybe one, every two weeks or one a month.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And so doing three episodes a week,
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: has been, well, a bit overwhelming.
46:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just be honest, but it is doing some fun things.
46:34
[SPEAKER_02]: For one, that's more content for you to enjoy.
46:37
[SPEAKER_02]: For two, we're keeping the episodes, the interviews a little bit fresher.
46:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So when a guest comes on and we do an interview, I started looking about how many interviews I had and how far out they would be.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: before you would get to hear them and I thought well you know what we're talking in mid summer and we're going to get to this in early winter or something like that and it just doesn't make a lot of sense so I really like it that we picked up the pace and it does seem like it's building a lot of momentum more people are listening to the show
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: and our daily downloads are increasing and that's something it really needs to happen.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I mentioned earlier on that Apple podcasts changed the way that they manage subscribers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if there's a time period when you don't download a podcast, it quits downloading it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you can even be unsubscribed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Although the algorithm is proprietary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It don't know exactly how it works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that impacted the Adventure Sports podcast quite significantly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it first happened, you could see it in the stats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: even more than that when Mason was just getting too busy with his new job and his young family and took a hiatus from the adventure sports podcast for four months then I think quite a few people ended up being unsubscribed so if you know anybody that you still listen to the show that doesn't realize that it's still going on because we picked it back up again then let them know we really appreciate that but that also means
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[SPEAKER_02]: that building the show back up to its prior download levels and beyond is a big priority for us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason the bottom line reason is because downloads, listens, impressions are what provide the adventure sports podcast with revenue so that we can keep the show going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we really appreciate you sharing this with your friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what is this big adventure that I've been talking about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm going to give you a few hints.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to tell you what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to happen in January.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be south of the equator.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be in a place obviously that speaks different languages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to involve many days of backpacking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the most important part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is an adventure where we are going to be raising support for a humanitarian organization that is really making a beautiful difference in the lives of many, many, many people, especially in the lives of the children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm super excited to be a part of this because not only am I gonna have a great adventure which I'm really looking forward to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's gonna make a difference in the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give that some thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Give that some thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think the adventure might be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly one of my bucket list items.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been thinking about this for over thirty years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, enough of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening to the Adventure Sports podcast today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that when you hear an interview, you hear ideas, seeds are planted, you're inspired to get out there and to do something different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It could be big adventure, it could be small adventure, it could be an athletic adventure or it could just be an experiential adventure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I really believe
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[SPEAKER_02]: that having adventure in your life enriches life itself and that's why we do this so please enjoy it, share it, love it and thank you so much for being part of the Adventure Sports podcast family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now get out there and have some fun.