Latest / Garden America Saturday / Vegetables Fit for a King [05.16.2026 hour 2 only]
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- 0:17Speaker 1: I think somebody had a question of moments ago, are
- 0:19Speaker 1: we back on? Are we on the air yet? Well
- 0:21Speaker 1: the answer was negative, and now the answer is yes.
- 0:23Speaker 1: We are back. At is hour number two if you're
- 0:25Speaker 1: tuned in on biz talk radio much less, much less
- 0:28Speaker 1: the same I should say for Facebook Live. We operated
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- 0:34Speaker 1: again we're back, and thank you at Fertile Loan. We're
- 0:36Speaker 1: going to get Fertile them on the year pretty soon,
- 0:38Speaker 1: Tiger and talk about some of their products and how
- 0:41Speaker 1: they've expanded their service to the gardening world. So expanding
- 0:44Speaker 1: their service in the gardening world. That's all they do
- 0:47Speaker 1: is gardening, but they're panning their services. Oh my goodness. Anyway,
- 0:52Speaker 1: you know what's it's a stream of consciousness. We are back.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, and hopefully you enjoyed hour one.
- 0:58Speaker 1: If not, we'll try to make it up in our two. John.
- 1:00Speaker 2: You know, you know one thing I would be interested
- 1:02Speaker 2: to hear from our listeners is Fertile On products that
- 1:06Speaker 2: they like, stand behind wherever they're from, because that's the thing.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Being in California, we're only exposed to a very small
- 1:17Speaker 2: amount of their actual like line of products because number one,
- 1:20Speaker 2: there's a lot of restrictions in California, right, and number two,
- 1:23Speaker 2: like they have soils, they've got fertilizers, they've got all
- 1:26Speaker 2: this other stuff that they don't have in California because
- 1:30Speaker 2: it comes from Texas or it comes from other areas
- 1:33Speaker 2: of the United States. That doesn't make sense to drive
- 1:36Speaker 2: a truckload of bags soils from Texas to California. So,
- 1:42Speaker 2: you know, because I know they have a great line
- 1:46Speaker 2: of products, but some of them we don't get. So
- 1:49Speaker 2: I don't know if like, oh, I live in Idaho
- 1:51Speaker 2: and I really like using their you know whatever for
- 1:55Speaker 2: killing fire ants or whatever it may be. There are
- 1:58Speaker 2: some people know they have fire ants, and I do
- 1:59Speaker 2: hope if they did.
- 2:00Speaker 1: But what you're saying is some people may be under
- 2:03Speaker 1: the impression that, yeah, they have a soil and fertilizer. Yeah, yes,
- 2:07Speaker 1: that's a good start, but there were a lot more
- 2:10Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, and so that's a good point. What
- 2:12Speaker 1: would you purchase or what do you like to maybe
- 2:15Speaker 1: here in California we don't even we're not even aware of, right,
- 2:18Speaker 1: don't even need to use.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the first hour when we were talking
- 2:22Speaker 3: about gardens, to visit. I'm trying to think of who
- 2:26Speaker 3: it was now because I lost all those comments, but
- 2:29Speaker 3: I think it was Tanya mentioned lotus Land or someone
- 2:33Speaker 3: mentioned lotus Land and I've never been to lotus Land?
- 2:37Speaker 4: Have you never?
- 2:38Speaker 3: Because that would be interesting?
- 2:40Speaker 1: Can you sit like that from more than fifteen twenty minutes?
- 2:44Speaker 3: You have to sit in the lowest lotus position on
- 2:47Speaker 3: the bus. Is that what you're saying? Oh Rick mentioned
- 2:51Speaker 3: also on the Huntington that you could go there during
- 2:56Speaker 3: camellia season.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's in the ball right winter.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Maybe you could do the Huntington and Desconso gardens, you know,
- 3:05Speaker 3: in the same day. Yeah, yeah, because Desconso is also
- 3:07Speaker 3: known for their chamillius as well.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's different, right. Everybody goes. Everybody goes in
- 3:14Speaker 2: the spring, right, why not go in the fall? A
- 3:16Speaker 2: little different?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:19Speaker 2: Lisa set up a venting system with dryer hoses and
- 3:23Speaker 2: two solar fans for my eight x ten greenhouse. You know,
- 3:26Speaker 2: that is something that people don't always remember to do
- 3:30Speaker 2: when they set.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Up a greenhouse. Number one is you need a.
- 3:34Speaker 2: System to get hot air out or you know, cool
- 3:37Speaker 2: area in, you know, because it's not always the same.
- 3:39Speaker 2: But number two is you need air movement in a greenhouse.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Like you've worked in a lot of like or been
- 3:45Speaker 2: to a lot of big greenhouses before, they have these
- 3:47Speaker 2: massive fans blowing the air around because they don't want
- 3:50Speaker 2: stagnant air in a greenhouse, right, John circulation.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Right. You know.
- 3:54Speaker 3: The most impressive thing that I saw in my younger
- 3:58Speaker 3: days when I first went in to commercial greenhouses was
- 4:03Speaker 3: in Oberlin, Ohio. I went into a greenhouse that was immaculate,
- 4:08Speaker 3: and they refused to let their hoses touch the ground.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Wow.
- 4:13Speaker 3: So they were all overhead hoses on a pulley system
- 4:17Speaker 3: and the cement was made. The ground was all cement
- 4:22Speaker 3: and it was made without sand, so it was porous
- 4:27Speaker 3: and so when you washed it, everything just went straight.
- 4:29Speaker 4: Through really neat.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yea. So they didn't have any puddled water
- 4:33Speaker 3: or anything.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's thinking ahead, isn't it. I mean that
- 4:38Speaker 1: takes it was funny one of us.
- 4:41Speaker 3: The place we went to was Great Lakes Growers and
- 4:45Speaker 3: it was the.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Tiger.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Do you know about Van wingerd in greenhouses?
- 4:52Speaker 1: I've heard of it.
- 4:53Speaker 3: Okay, Well he had Van Wingerden was great at propagating
- 4:57Speaker 3: and I think he had eight sons. They all had
- 5:01Speaker 3: their own greenhouses. And today there I'm trying to think
- 5:06Speaker 3: of what they're called. Anyway, they're huge growers today. But
- 5:11Speaker 3: back then I was working for Frank's Nursery as a buyer.
- 5:17Speaker 3: And one of the guys that worked with me that
- 5:19Speaker 3: was my direct boss, was another buyer, Kurt Levy, And
- 5:25Speaker 3: I would say he had colorful language, you know, it
- 5:29Speaker 3: was just kind of who he was. You know, he
- 5:33Speaker 3: wasn't crude, but it was just you know, he had
- 5:36Speaker 3: been through a lot. Actually he even had a tattoo
- 5:41Speaker 3: on his arm from the concentration camps. And so he
- 5:50Speaker 3: and his mother had gotten out of Italy. I think
- 5:52Speaker 3: his dad out of Germany. His dad died in a
- 5:56Speaker 3: concentration camp. But anyway, he was a great person. I
- 5:59Speaker 3: really learned a lot rough around the edges, but a
- 6:02Speaker 3: good rough around the edges. But we were buying from
- 6:06Speaker 3: growers in Michigan who were longtime friends of the owners,
- 6:13Speaker 3: and Kurt All Kurt was the guy who worked with
- 6:16Speaker 3: always felt that they were taking advantage of us, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 3: like they would never give you a price. If we
- 6:23Speaker 3: wanted to buy something, they would say, what are you
- 6:25Speaker 3: going to sell it for? And their price was half
- 6:29Speaker 3: of whatever we.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Were going to say. They wanted to know what their
- 6:31Speaker 1: their profit margin was going to be, right, No.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Their profit margin was just half of ours.
- 6:36Speaker 1: No, but that's that's that's what I mean in terms
- 6:38Speaker 1: of like they're going to the more you sell it
- 6:40Speaker 1: for them, the more they're going to charge you to Yeah,
- 6:42Speaker 1: exactly right, that's what I meant.
- 6:44Speaker 3: So so I found these growers in Oberlin, Ohio, and
- 6:50Speaker 3: and they their prices were forty to fifty percent less
- 6:56Speaker 3: even with shipping it into Michigan. So we brought in
- 7:00Speaker 3: one shipment and it was amazing, sold out immediately, So
- 7:05Speaker 3: Kurt and I decided to make a trip there. So
- 7:08Speaker 3: we went to visit them on a buying trip to
- 7:10Speaker 3: Overland and as we're going up this long driveway to
- 7:13Speaker 3: the greenhouses, there's signs that say absolutely no profanity on
- 7:19Speaker 3: this property.
- 7:20Speaker 1: That's how they keep the prices low. That's beautiful.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they were. And Kurt started to get nervous.
- 7:27Speaker 3: I said, you know, you've got to watch these are
- 7:29Speaker 3: strong Christian, got to watch what you say. So we
- 7:33Speaker 3: went out to lunch with them and we had great negotiations.
- 7:38Speaker 3: We set up a lot of orders, and as Kurt
- 7:43Speaker 3: became more comfortable with them, he said, you know, I've
- 7:47Speaker 3: got to be honest with you guys. I've been sweating
- 7:49Speaker 3: this whole whole lunch trying to watch my language and
- 7:55Speaker 3: make sure I didn't say anything bad. And he said,
- 7:58Speaker 3: but I was pretty good, right, And they said, well,
- 8:02Speaker 3: you did mention something about the Hoover dam one time,
- 8:04Speaker 3: but we ignored that.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. So basically, their price was their price.
- 8:11Speaker 1: It didn't have a price, was their price. It was
- 8:13Speaker 1: didn't matter what you sold it for, No, it was.
- 8:16Speaker 1: They didn't care.
- 8:17Speaker 3: It's just this is what we're what we sellid for,
- 8:20Speaker 3: this is what we want to get.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well that was a good move. All right, Yeah,
- 8:24Speaker 1: good funny.
- 8:25Speaker 2: We have some we have a question we need to answer, Okay,
- 8:29Speaker 2: all right. So it was from Veronica. I found on
- 8:36Speaker 2: Amazon some potato pots with a side window slash door.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Would fifteen gallon be big enough for my purple sweet
- 8:46Speaker 2: potatoes or would twenty gallon be better? Was Veronica the
- 8:50Speaker 2: one who asked last week about whether she put one
- 8:53Speaker 2: in each pot or multiple ones? Do you remember that
- 8:56Speaker 2: John could have bent Okay, So I just was actually
- 8:59Speaker 2: cruised online to see what Amazon offered for potato plants,
- 9:04Speaker 2: and they're basically like a grow bag. Some of them
- 9:07Speaker 2: have a flap that, like you you can like just
- 9:10Speaker 2: open up and then begin to.
- 9:11Speaker 3: And I think generally they're for regular potatoes, so you
- 9:14Speaker 3: can reach in and pull of potatoes out as you
- 9:16Speaker 3: need them exactly.
- 9:17Speaker 2: And some of them, like she says, have like windows
- 9:19Speaker 2: also that you can kind of see them growing without
- 9:22Speaker 2: having to open up the flap.
- 9:24Speaker 1: So what would you recommend for sweet potato?
- 9:27Speaker 3: You know, the only sweet potatoes I've ever grown, to
- 9:31Speaker 3: be honest, we're in windows. And and then the ornamental
- 9:36Speaker 3: ones you guys still solo, You know the ones I'm
- 9:40Speaker 3: talking about with the purple.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Leaves, oh ipomea, Yeah, those ones. Okay, that's I thought
- 9:44Speaker 2: you meant like an ornamental sweet potato. No, no, no no,
- 9:47Speaker 2: But I mean the potato itself, like ornamental corn is
- 9:50Speaker 2: what I'm getting at, you know what I mean.
- 9:51Speaker 4: I'm like, I've never seen an order.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Picturing a sculptured sweet potato exactly.
- 9:55Speaker 1: But the.
- 9:57Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. You know, sometimes those the variegated
- 10:03Speaker 3: or the dark purple eype of me as well last
- 10:06Speaker 3: two or three seasons. Right, yeah, did you ever dig
- 10:08Speaker 3: one out? There's sweet potatoes under there, rightly? So, I
- 10:13Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that you can can pull
- 10:17Speaker 3: those out the same way you do potatoes as they're growing.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would think she's thinking about maybe she
- 10:25Speaker 2: is thinking about like that, but I just was thinking
- 10:28Speaker 2: that she just thought it'd be good to watch it
- 10:30Speaker 2: as it grows. And so she's wearing what sized pot
- 10:33Speaker 2: to put it in? So would you say the bigger.
- 10:35Speaker 3: Pot I'm thinking on sweet potatoes because you know, talking
- 10:38Speaker 3: about the size of the plants and how they get,
- 10:41Speaker 3: I'm thinking the larger the better.
- 10:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
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- 11:24Speaker 2: So I think that answered Veronica's question, get the bigger
- 11:28Speaker 2: growbag for your sweet potatoes, because they're you know, number one,
- 11:32Speaker 2: this sweet potato is much bigger plants than the regular
- 11:34Speaker 2: potato vine ones.
- 11:36Speaker 4: And you know it's not gonna hurt it.
- 11:39Speaker 1: I don't think, so all right, go for that.
- 11:41Speaker 3: You know, first hour we didn't get a chance. And
- 11:44Speaker 3: I don't know that his Stam is on for the
- 11:46Speaker 3: second hour, But our buddy Hastam and Pakistan, if you're
- 11:52Speaker 3: listening to us, send me an email to John at
- 11:54Speaker 3: Gardanamerica dot com because I would like to invite Hastam
- 11:59Speaker 3: to write a a blurb from my book. I would like,
- 12:04Speaker 3: you know, someone from Pakistan to write something. So and
- 12:10Speaker 3: also you know I had asked during the first hour
- 12:13Speaker 3: if anybody new celebrities or notable people that they could
- 12:21Speaker 3: send me an email address to. I'd love to solicit
- 12:25Speaker 3: some some writings from different people gardeners across the world. Yeah,
- 12:31Speaker 3: so just send me a note to John Agardenamerica dot com.
- 12:35Speaker 2: That's I remember you've talked about this project before, and
- 12:39Speaker 2: it's such a neat kind of idea to get the
- 12:41Speaker 2: insight from just different people, and different people you don't
- 12:44Speaker 2: even associate with gardening sometimes, like even like the whole
- 12:46Speaker 2: King Charles thing, like we talked about in the beginning
- 12:48Speaker 2: of the show, like in Cauliflower. You know, it's kind
- 12:51Speaker 2: of a neat little.
- 12:52Speaker 3: There's a lot of people here in California that you know,
- 12:55Speaker 3: like Alice Waters, did you ever go to Chapanese?
- 12:58Speaker 1: By the way? Never?
- 13:00Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's like probably the best food I've
- 13:03Speaker 3: ever had in my lively. Yeah, and I'm including Italy Brian.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yeah that says something.
- 13:09Speaker 2: I just listened to a podcast with her on did
- 13:12Speaker 2: You Yeah, and she was just talking about how she
- 13:14Speaker 2: balanced motherhood with the restaurant life and all this other stuff.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Early her kids just grew up in that kitchen, you
- 13:21Speaker 2: know what I mean.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Yeah, super neat.
- 13:24Speaker 3: So anyway, Yeah, I think it could be interesting, this
- 13:28Speaker 3: idea that's evolved over a long period of time. And
- 13:32Speaker 3: when I first told it to you, I had gotten
- 13:36Speaker 3: the idea from from FLOORA. Cole's book called The Flower Game,
- 13:41Speaker 3: where she had mailed letters in the sixties to people
- 13:44Speaker 3: around the world. But now I think I'm done easier
- 13:48Speaker 3: through email. And the reason I motivated to do it
- 13:50Speaker 3: was Ruth had an idea about wanting to write about
- 13:57Speaker 3: how gardening motivates people. And you know what your thought
- 14:00Speaker 3: when you're working in the garden and how it just
- 14:04Speaker 3: just relates to our whole psyche. And so I put
- 14:08Speaker 3: her idea together with my idea and thought, you know,
- 14:11Speaker 3: be a great way to work well together. H So, yeah,
- 14:15Speaker 3: we'll see what happens, yea. And plus I thought it'd
- 14:17Speaker 3: be easier if I had someone else writing out the
- 14:20Speaker 3: book exactly, always.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Is right, always is all right, let's see.
- 14:27Speaker 3: What else is on the sirih just sent me a
- 14:30Speaker 3: note that said, sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Because I saw that. Of course you kicked off my
- 14:35Speaker 1: siri here. Yeah, I saw. I saw her working as
- 14:38Speaker 1: you were talking. And sometimes they just kind of butt
- 14:41Speaker 1: in and think that you're talking to them.
- 14:43Speaker 3: And now all our listeners who are listening on the
- 14:45Speaker 3: phone have the same problem. And we apologize.
- 14:50Speaker 2: All right, how to grow your perfect cucumber? What else
- 15:01Speaker 2: was I looking at it?
- 15:01Speaker 1: Well?
- 15:01Speaker 3: Nor was asking, you know how about mentioning Bruce Asakawa
- 15:07Speaker 3: in the project. I think I'm going to ask Sharon
- 15:10Speaker 3: asakau I to write something, so so we'll see whether
- 15:16Speaker 3: she wants to do it or not. I don't know,
- 15:17Speaker 3: but I'm definitely going to ask her, and she may
- 15:21Speaker 3: have some some reflections about gardening with Bruce right exactly.
- 15:30Speaker 2: You know, when I had trouble, I was looking at
- 15:32Speaker 2: some of the articles and it was talking about gardening tools.
- 15:37Speaker 4: You know I couldn't find today was my pruners.
- 15:39Speaker 2: I went to go cut these roses and I couldn't
- 15:42Speaker 2: find my I have different you know how you've talked
- 15:45Speaker 2: about how you have different glasses in your house. Yeah,
- 15:49Speaker 2: so that way you can just grab a pair if
- 15:50Speaker 2: you need them. I have pruners throughout my property, like
- 15:55Speaker 2: I have a pair in my truck. I have a
- 15:57Speaker 2: pair up by the house because if I don't to
- 16:00Speaker 2: come all the way down here, and then I have
- 16:01Speaker 2: a pair down here. So if I don't want to
- 16:03Speaker 2: go all the way up and I couldn't find the
- 16:05Speaker 2: ones that were down here, so I had my big
- 16:08Speaker 2: lawn handled like pruners.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Yeah, like to like.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Because I couldn't find my bruders, and I'm so frustrated
- 16:16Speaker 2: that I don't know where and I can't.
- 16:18Speaker 4: I don't know where I left them.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And you wouldn't normally take them out of this area,
- 16:22Speaker 1: no reasons.
- 16:23Speaker 4: I have them in my areas. I have them in
- 16:25Speaker 4: my zones for.
- 16:26Speaker 3: You didn't mention this rose first hour.
- 16:28Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't.
- 16:29Speaker 2: What is it gold Marie, right, I think so, gold Marie, Yeah,
- 16:33Speaker 2: gold Marie, beautiful yellow rose. Yeah, it's it's kind of
- 16:39Speaker 2: wrapping up. The other ones were much older. That one's pretty.
- 16:42Speaker 2: That one's actually like the newest one that I have,
- 16:47Speaker 2: But the other ones are kind of already spent and
- 16:49Speaker 2: wrapping up, so you know. And then Chrysler Impiro is
- 16:52Speaker 2: just starting to put out the new blood buds right now.
- 16:54Speaker 2: I'm excited for that, so looking pretty good. At least
- 16:59Speaker 2: the rabbits didn't eat them like I talked about my
- 17:00Speaker 2: Temecula customer.
- 17:02Speaker 1: Is that the only rose named after a car?
- 17:04Speaker 3: Chrysler Imperial.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Is it named after a car? Yeah? Oh really a
- 17:11Speaker 1: big car, the big car.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Right, I'm sure there's some others.
- 17:17Speaker 4: There's not Pinto, Pento's not a rose.
- 17:20Speaker 3: There's a Henry Ford okay, but that's not a car, right,
- 17:24Speaker 3: it's the person who made cars.
- 17:26Speaker 4: There's got to be a Corvette. I feel like there's
- 17:28Speaker 4: got to be a Corvette.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Could be.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Yeah, the Corvettes named everything, right, There's always a Corvette.
- 17:37Speaker 3: Yeah, there's Ruth had stopped by yesterday. She wants to
- 17:42Speaker 3: name a rose after the current president of the American
- 17:46Speaker 3: Rose Society. And there's a tradition where when you become president,
- 17:50Speaker 3: they name a rose after you. And she was thinking
- 17:54Speaker 3: that she thought it was boring to have roses named
- 17:57Speaker 3: after people, which I I don't think I really agree
- 18:01Speaker 3: with that. But she wants to call this rose. And
- 18:04Speaker 3: Carrie Beggs is going to be the new president of
- 18:07Speaker 3: the American Rose Society, and she wanted to call the
- 18:10Speaker 3: rose dancing candy cane. And I actually came up with
- 18:20Speaker 3: what I thought was the perfect rose, and she sent
- 18:23Speaker 3: a picture of it to carry and carry likes it too.
- 18:25Speaker 3: But I don't know that you would ever equate dancing
- 18:30Speaker 3: candy cane to a person person.
- 18:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you do, I mean it's a
- 18:36Speaker 4: special person.
- 18:37Speaker 1: But so it's red and white.
- 18:40Speaker 3: No, it's not red and white. No, it's actually you
- 18:43Speaker 3: know that seedling that I gave you, it's it's from that.
- 18:47Speaker 3: It's a sister seedling of that, except it gets how are.
- 18:51Speaker 1: You honoring somebody with.
- 18:54Speaker 3: It has something to do with her, Like.
- 18:57Speaker 1: Well, it's all about her. She went to name most dance. Maybe,
- 19:04Speaker 1: all right, we're going to take a break while we
- 19:06Speaker 1: sort through this.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Sure, I probably shouldn't have brought it up, because that's
- 19:09Speaker 3: the whole story.
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- 20:18Speaker 1: are back from the break. Speaking of roses, John, you're
- 20:21Speaker 1: familiar with a Paul McCartney album back in the seventies
- 20:24Speaker 1: called Red Rose Speedway.
- 20:26Speaker 3: There is a rose called Paul McCartney, right, But I
- 20:29Speaker 3: take that back. It's called the McCartney right.
- 20:31Speaker 1: But he had an album and he actually had a
- 20:33Speaker 1: rose in his mouth, and the album was called Red
- 20:35Speaker 1: Rose Speedway, which I thought, in itself might be a
- 20:38Speaker 1: good name for a rose. But I don't think you
- 20:41Speaker 1: could get away with that.
- 20:43Speaker 3: There was a tea called Red Rose Tea.
- 20:48Speaker 1: There was a.
- 20:50Speaker 3: See there was a competitor of Lipton Tea.
- 20:54Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, red Rose tea, I mean bus driver
- 20:57Speaker 1: tea bus driver t Yeah, Lipton's got a bus driver
- 21:00Speaker 1: in the front with a Is that what.
- 21:02Speaker 3: That guy is?
- 21:02Speaker 1: Yeah, bus driver. He's got a little cup like this
- 21:05Speaker 1: isn't he? I never knew what that guy. I think
- 21:08Speaker 1: he was a bus driver or something. Somebody will tell us.
- 21:11Speaker 1: You know, we got a lot of people listening. Call
- 21:13Speaker 1: the bus driver tea.
- 21:14Speaker 3: There's a rose called Sir Thomas Slipton. Does that have
- 21:18Speaker 3: anything to do with slipped in tea?
- 21:19Speaker 1: I don't know, but it sounds like somebody.
- 21:22Speaker 3: Should look that up tonight for your homework. Okay, what
- 21:30Speaker 3: are you doing in your garden? You have a container
- 21:33Speaker 3: garden man, I'll tell you what everything is coming up?
- 21:36Speaker 1: Roses? Uh didn't ethel Merman sing about that or say
- 21:39Speaker 1: that at some point everything's coming up? Anyway, it is.
- 21:41Speaker 1: They're all blooming. They look great. My palms are doing well.
- 21:47Speaker 1: What about your the dahlias? We got beautiful, I mean bursting.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Really no, they haven't bloomed yet, right, but they're bursting. Yeah.
- 21:54Speaker 1: It's wow. It's funny when you don't, you know, go
- 21:56Speaker 1: outside to look at something for a day or two
- 21:58Speaker 1: and you can't believe there's that much growth in forty
- 22:00Speaker 1: eight hours. It's like, Wow, you had a good night
- 22:02Speaker 1: or good day, didn't.
- 22:03Speaker 4: You mine are struggling because I've been not watering perfectly.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Do you know what's going around in my mind right
- 22:12Speaker 3: now trying to imagine is not going outside for a
- 22:16Speaker 3: day or two. Yeah, well I'm outside, but I can't
- 22:20Speaker 3: imagine that.
- 22:22Speaker 2: But I just sometimes you, well, his garden, John, is
- 22:27Speaker 2: smaller than your back patio, you know what I mean?
- 22:31Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like I don't.
- 22:33Speaker 3: Know, it's about the same size.
- 22:35Speaker 2: No, come on, So so what he does in one
- 22:40Speaker 2: day could probably last two to three days of effort,
- 22:44Speaker 2: right Like, there's no reason why.
- 22:46Speaker 3: He's got the whole front.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, but that's just it's been minimized.
- 22:50Speaker 1: That's that's just a series of roses lined up. And uh,
- 22:55Speaker 1: especially because you mentioned watering. And I remember it's been
- 22:58Speaker 1: a day or so and we'd been kind of warm,
- 23:00Speaker 1: and I went out and went looking a little dry.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Here's here's some water. But yeah, I didn't take me
- 23:06Speaker 1: long at all.
- 23:09Speaker 2: John, I don't know if you remember this, and Brian too,
- 23:12Speaker 2: but I was looking at different other articles as well,
- 23:16Speaker 2: and there was some like gardening myths.
- 23:18Speaker 4: Do you remember do you remember.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Growing up and having the water bottles in the middle
- 23:23Speaker 2: of grass and it was to stop dogs.
- 23:26Speaker 4: From peeing or pooping on your lawns.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Wasn't it teeth? It was?
- 23:31Speaker 3: No, it was I was already grown up.
- 23:36Speaker 1: Yes, what you weren't. No, I know exactly what he's talking. Yeah,
- 23:40Speaker 1: I was supposed to keep animals from dogs from erinating
- 23:43Speaker 1: on your line.
- 23:44Speaker 3: And I heard this though I was in my thirties.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Really, yeah, the reflection of the sun or something something.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Maybe it's you know, like it doesn't work at all.
- 23:54Speaker 2: But they were like tea jugs, and I just remember
- 23:56Speaker 2: like seeing bottles of water on people's lawns.
- 23:59Speaker 1: What's amazing people will hear and think and then they
- 24:01Speaker 1: go out and do it. Yeah.
- 24:03Speaker 3: Isn't it like those sonic uh past repellance.
- 24:07Speaker 2: The pest or the gopher ones, which one's like they're
- 24:11Speaker 2: sonic everything.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Right, repellent?
- 24:14Speaker 3: None of them work, do they?
- 24:17Speaker 1: Some people?
- 24:18Speaker 4: Some people say they do, some people don't write.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Some people swear by them, but they're mad. They're not
- 24:24Speaker 1: they're not complimenting it. They just swear by them because
- 24:26Speaker 1: they're upset that they didn't work.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I think, you know, for your yard,
- 24:30Speaker 2: if you put one of those sonic gopher things in there,
- 24:32Speaker 2: I think that the gopher tunnel right up next to it,
- 24:34Speaker 2: you know, and take the sonic thing down.
- 24:37Speaker 3: But I mean the gopher I have in the back
- 24:39Speaker 3: by the way, is he's got my number?
- 24:43Speaker 1: Oh?
- 24:43Speaker 3: Really, there's I've set I would say I've set traps
- 24:49Speaker 3: close to fifty times. What and I I go and
- 24:54Speaker 3: pull them up? There is it time to name him?
- 24:57Speaker 4: He's evolved, he's he's learned.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Your it's time just to accept him and name him
- 25:02Speaker 1: part of the family.
- 25:04Speaker 3: Well, so far he's eaten five of my seedlings, my
- 25:08Speaker 3: roast seed.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Can't you give him his own area.
- 25:11Speaker 3: He's already claimed his own area.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Got it? Well, then then plant in that area? What
- 25:16Speaker 1: you don't mind him consuming?
- 25:18Speaker 3: I don't want him to consume that. Now, yesterday I
- 25:22Speaker 3: actually watched a weed disappear. He would eat weeds. He
- 25:28Speaker 3: could stay in the whole area.
- 25:31Speaker 2: You would probably feed him and yeah, give him more
- 25:34Speaker 2: a nice bedroom.
- 25:35Speaker 3: Or I would feed all the gophers if they would
- 25:37Speaker 3: stay away from my plants.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Exactly, just weeded, right, we don't talk about much if
- 25:43Speaker 1: we have that, the weeds actually have names. There's what
- 25:46Speaker 1: the varieties of weeds aren't there, you know.
- 25:49Speaker 4: Like dandelion, crab grass.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Oh, I was thinking like Seth, phil Philip a.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Bill, like you know, like names you would give me,
- 26:04Speaker 1: I mean late late terms or you know.
- 26:07Speaker 3: Actually right over there, all plants have.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Names absolutely, and they're only weeds because why because they're
- 26:15Speaker 1: invasive and we don't want them in our garden.
- 26:17Speaker 3: There you go, it's a plan out of place.
- 26:20Speaker 1: That's what. That's what Bruce used to say, a plant
- 26:22Speaker 1: something about us.
- 26:23Speaker 2: It's kind of like what we say for flowers. Those
- 26:24Speaker 2: are very nice flowers.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Said that a flowers and educated.
- 26:29Speaker 4: Weed is an educated one. Depends on where you're at.
- 26:37Speaker 1: You know.
- 26:37Speaker 2: What I saw this week also, John, which I think
- 26:40Speaker 2: you would be impressed by.
- 26:42Speaker 1: You a a full.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Front yard corrapia lawn and it had been there for
- 26:47Speaker 2: maybe three or four years.
- 26:48Speaker 4: It looked really nice, very pretty.
- 26:51Speaker 3: After they've been there for a while, they they do
- 26:54Speaker 3: choke out weeds.
- 26:55Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this thing was only Yeah.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard when you're getting one started because weeds
- 27:02Speaker 3: come up in them and you can't pull the weed
- 27:04Speaker 3: out if it's in the crapia.
- 27:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:07Speaker 3: But that whole area I have in the back of
- 27:11Speaker 3: my property, that's all crapia was planted from a couple
- 27:14Speaker 3: cuttings that I just stuck in the.
- 27:16Speaker 1: Ground, and it's just taking over.
- 27:18Speaker 2: And then you even take some of it and move
- 27:20Speaker 2: it to other parts, didn't you not anymore?
- 27:22Speaker 1: Oh no, I did.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Right now, I'm trying to get rid of it. I
- 27:27Speaker 3: did make the mistake of planning it in the rose garden.
- 27:30Speaker 3: That'd make a good groundcover.
- 27:32Speaker 1: But yeah, no, oh my.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Goodness, that's funny.
- 27:38Speaker 2: Yeah, your whole You had their whole little slope with
- 27:40Speaker 2: some crappia on it.
- 27:42Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't remember. You loved it.
- 27:44Speaker 2: And I like that on the slopes and it attracts bees,
- 27:46Speaker 2: which is really nice for like pollenization and flowering and all.
- 27:50Speaker 3: That, unless you have your son who says, Dad, I'm
- 27:54Speaker 3: allergic to bees, and that you're planning that.
- 27:57Speaker 4: And by my bedroom window.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Yeah, well it actually is window, even though he's forty
- 28:05Speaker 3: years old. But they live in the house below us,
- 28:08Speaker 3: so uh, it does go down to their house.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that is one thing about any any
- 28:16Speaker 2: kind of like ground cover that has that many flowers
- 28:19Speaker 2: on it.
- 28:19Speaker 4: People have to be very.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Careful if even if they wear flip flops outside because
- 28:22Speaker 2: bees are down there. Oh yeah, you know, if you
- 28:25Speaker 2: have an open shoe, you're gonna step on a bee
- 28:27Speaker 2: for sure.
- 28:27Speaker 1: Right, do you have any bees in your backyard? Do
- 28:29Speaker 1: you see enough? Do you see left? Do you see more?
- 28:31Speaker 4: Oh, I've got a ton of bees in my backyard,
- 28:34Speaker 4: A ton.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Yeah. I always see him. They're always around.
- 28:36Speaker 2: They always go in the pool too and die. And
- 28:38Speaker 2: I don't understand how that happens, Like I don't understand
- 28:41Speaker 2: what they're doing going into the.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Pool committing suicide. They're done.
- 28:44Speaker 4: I don't know, like are they just done or did
- 28:46Speaker 4: they accidentally go in.
- 28:47Speaker 1: The pool like that bee that you see every now
- 28:49Speaker 1: and then on your windshield when you get in your
- 28:51Speaker 1: car and you're driving down the free when it's still there. Yeah,
- 28:55Speaker 1: see how long making hold on? Like okay, I'm gonna
- 28:57Speaker 1: turn the wipers on by bye.
- 28:58Speaker 3: But they're going to the pool for the wa Yeah yeah,
- 29:01Speaker 3: then they but they just you know, they slip and
- 29:03Speaker 3: fall in.
- 29:05Speaker 4: Just goofy bees.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Yeah, goofy bees. Yeah. Yeah. I would.
- 29:11Speaker 3: When they brought the bee hives for you know, next
- 29:14Speaker 3: to me, I've got low quad orchard. And when they
- 29:17Speaker 3: would bring not low.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Quad, I've got it. No guava.
- 29:24Speaker 3: Oh there's a guava orchard there and they would bring
- 29:26Speaker 3: in the bees and I have a bird bath there,
- 29:30Speaker 3: and when those bees were there, they were the bird
- 29:34Speaker 3: bath was always loaded. But there'd be dead bees in
- 29:36Speaker 3: the bird bath and there'd be live ones on the edge,
- 29:41Speaker 3: you know, drinking the water, and then they would take off.
- 29:44Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess some just slipping buddies who fell
- 29:47Speaker 1: into the water. Yeah, must have slipped and.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Fill Any new projects coming up?
- 29:54Speaker 2: Tiger in my garden, Yeah, yes, so turn around, yeah,
- 30:01Speaker 2: just turn around. Yeah, I mean that's a work in progress.
- 30:03Speaker 2: But that you know what I did recently up on
- 30:08Speaker 2: up on the top, I cut off a whole branch
- 30:11Speaker 2: of that juniper juniper, can't remember up there.
- 30:17Speaker 3: That big tree some cypress or some cypress No, right, yeah,
- 30:21Speaker 3: I think we.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Gotta jump out here, but because it was dropping those
- 30:25Speaker 2: berries all in the grass and it was annoying.
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- 31:47Speaker 3: Yeah, Tanya mentioned that, you know, we were talking about
- 31:50Speaker 3: when you don't go outside for a couple of days.
- 31:52Speaker 3: She was gone for two weeks and when she came back,
- 31:56Speaker 3: you know, especially in the springtime, yikes, she was. It
- 31:59Speaker 3: wasn't a she was just amazed how much things grown.
- 32:02Speaker 1: What could be a good yike? Yeah, look how big
- 32:04Speaker 1: that is.
- 32:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm replying back to Tanya's comment about corapia.
- 32:12Speaker 1: With the correct spelling.
- 32:14Speaker 3: Oh it's ku are right, yep.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Kevin had a question for me.
- 32:22Speaker 2: A few years ago, people were putting in lawns that
- 32:25Speaker 2: could survive on little water or even salt water. How
- 32:29Speaker 2: successful was that endeavor? I don't know about salt water,
- 32:32Speaker 2: but buffalo grass was the one that I remember. UC
- 32:35Speaker 2: Davis came out and it was all the rage, right,
- 32:38Speaker 2: Buffalo grass and Krckspanza lawns too.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Well, the buffalo grass is native, right, the native to
- 32:45Speaker 3: the prairies. Yes, so they were supposed to be drought tolerant.
- 32:50Speaker 2: In the model behind those were a normal like fescue
- 32:55Speaker 2: lawn if it's well managed and watered properly and taking
- 32:59Speaker 2: care of the root system, can probably go down maybe
- 33:04Speaker 2: twelve inches kind of a thing on a fescu lawn
- 33:07Speaker 2: maybe if it's doing really well.
- 33:09Speaker 4: The idea was that like the buffalo.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Grass and the carraxes and those ones, those root systems
- 33:14Speaker 2: were going down twenty you know or more inches into
- 33:18Speaker 2: the ground, which if you have a deeper root system,
- 33:20Speaker 2: they can tap into natural reservoirs water, the waters stays
- 33:23Speaker 2: damp down there, or the soil stays damp down there,
- 33:26Speaker 2: nutrients all that, and so they were just trying to
- 33:28Speaker 2: find grasses that had that deep root structure to you know,
- 33:32Speaker 2: and that means you're water less. I would say that
- 33:37Speaker 2: they have not been as you know, popular, because they
- 33:42Speaker 2: weren't great lawns for home, Like, they weren't great for
- 33:46Speaker 2: your kid to play soccer on.
- 33:47Speaker 1: They weren't great for you to you know, have in
- 33:49Speaker 1: your backyard. But don't tear it up.
- 33:52Speaker 2: It was it really was, and so you know in
- 33:55Speaker 2: a situation where maybe you know you wanted a nice
- 33:58Speaker 2: green area. It's not a bad lawn, but it wasn't
- 34:02Speaker 2: for everyday home use.
- 34:04Speaker 1: And that's very interesting when somebody is contemplating, you know,
- 34:07Speaker 1: putting a lawn in. You know, those are questions that
- 34:10Speaker 1: the average person may not even think about. It's gonna
- 34:12Speaker 1: look good, it's gonna be green, but you're not gonna
- 34:15Speaker 1: let your kids play football? Yeah, right, exactly, you sacrifice
- 34:19Speaker 1: one for the other.
- 34:20Speaker 2: Yeah. And they were expensive too. I remember getting the
- 34:24Speaker 2: plugs for buffalo grass was pretty pricey. So you didn't
- 34:27Speaker 2: want it to be something that was gonna get torah
- 34:30Speaker 2: or damage because it like, you don't want to have
- 34:31Speaker 2: to keep replacing it and plenishing it.
- 34:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:35Speaker 3: Rick quants to know if we like any of the
- 34:38Speaker 3: garden video shows that are on YouTube.
- 34:42Speaker 1: I have to watch them.
- 34:45Speaker 3: There's the Garden America show on YouTube.
- 34:48Speaker 1: We're rather fond of that one.
- 34:50Speaker 3: I would have to say, personally, I don't dislike all
- 34:56Speaker 3: of them.
- 34:57Speaker 1: You may question some of the information that they're given.
- 35:00Speaker 3: No, No, I just don't watch them. My daughter is
- 35:04Speaker 3: a fanatic about.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Guy.
- 35:08Speaker 3: I can't think of her name now, but she's the
- 35:12Speaker 3: gardener in I think she broadcasts out of Washington, close
- 35:19Speaker 3: to the close to the Washington Idaho border, Okay, and
- 35:24Speaker 3: her parents have a garden center there too, And and
- 35:29Speaker 3: Gina swears by everything she says. She just loves the show.
- 35:34Speaker 3: So that's one. And then I know a lot of
- 35:36Speaker 3: people watch is he on YouTube Monty Done?
- 35:39Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he's had shows before.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Too, right, Yeah, so I don't. Yeah, Monty Done is
- 35:47Speaker 3: a big guy out of England. Popular guy, I should say,
- 35:51Speaker 3: not necessarily size, I think.
- 35:53Speaker 2: You know what I mean, not to downplay like what
- 35:55Speaker 2: we do in our show and everything. The thing that
- 35:58Speaker 2: is hard about gardening it's not like a cooking show.
- 36:02Speaker 2: A cooking show, you can have a really cool, fun
- 36:05Speaker 2: cooking show and the meals they make you can replicate,
- 36:08Speaker 2: and you can do and you can get inspired by
- 36:11Speaker 2: and you do all that because for the most part,
- 36:14Speaker 2: you can get all of the ingredients wherever you are.
- 36:18Speaker 2: With gardening shows, they're very much region specific, Like I'm
- 36:23Speaker 2: sure a big reason why Gina likes the show that
- 36:26Speaker 2: she likes is she can associate to it.
- 36:28Speaker 4: When they talk about Poni, they're speaking her language.
- 36:31Speaker 2: She can be like, I'm gonna get that plan, and
- 36:34Speaker 2: when they talk about like the different aspects of gardening,
- 36:36Speaker 2: she can incorporate that into her yard. If Gina watches
- 36:40Speaker 2: our show or you know, and when we focus on
- 36:43Speaker 2: things that are southern California, she might as well tune
- 36:46Speaker 2: out for a portion of the show because that's nothing
- 36:50Speaker 2: that even associates to where she's at or what she
- 36:52Speaker 2: can do.
- 36:52Speaker 4: It's a plant that maybe she can't even grow.
- 36:54Speaker 1: And we can speak on generalities a lot a lot
- 36:57Speaker 1: of the time because the same way you grow something
- 37:00Speaker 1: here may or may not work where you are, but
- 37:03Speaker 1: this is how you this is the best way to
- 37:05Speaker 1: grow it. Yeah, if you're ever in that situation where
- 37:08Speaker 1: you're someplace that you can grow it, maybe in the
- 37:11Speaker 1: right zone.
- 37:12Speaker 3: The girl that Gina watches is also a designer, and
- 37:18Speaker 3: Gina is into design. She likes the design where uh,
- 37:23Speaker 3: you like my garden, but design it's not a big
- 37:26Speaker 3: part of it.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 37:29Speaker 3: It's like I like this plant where I'm a functional Yeah,
- 37:34Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's functional, Well it is
- 37:36Speaker 3: to you, right if it well, it feels a purpose
- 37:39Speaker 3: for me. We got about a minute and a half
- 37:41Speaker 3: for the till the end of the show. No, until
- 37:45Speaker 3: I have to go shopping, till the end of the show. Yes,
- 37:49Speaker 3: I guess I just got lost.
- 37:51Speaker 1: It's okay. No, that's a good thing.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, you know, I gotta give we
- 37:57Speaker 2: got a minute half left, maybe a minute now. I
- 38:00Speaker 2: don't want to No, But what a well put together
- 38:03Speaker 2: program we had today.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all the pieces fit together.
- 38:07Speaker 2: We got onto Facebook cleanly, We took our break, we
- 38:10Speaker 2: got back on Facebook cleanly.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Staying on time, stayed on top of you're recording for
- 38:15Speaker 1: Stephanie at the network and taking care.
- 38:17Speaker 3: Of I'm not sure about that. We stayed on topic
- 38:20Speaker 3: part of it.
- 38:21Speaker 4: That's for us.
- 38:22Speaker 1: We did. But that's that's okay. It's okay. You know what,
- 38:25Speaker 1: h somebody gave us the nickname of the Drifters, you know,
- 38:28Speaker 1: not the group. But yeah, we'll drift from time to time.
- 38:31Speaker 1: And with that in mind, we're leading up to the
- 38:33Speaker 1: saying goodbye. Yes, so have yours out there, Thank you
- 38:36Speaker 1: for joining it. Get out there, do.
- 38:38Speaker 3: It, have a great gardening week. We'll come back.
- 38:40Speaker 1: We'll come back next week, right right here in the
- 38:42Speaker 1: same poolhouse, San Diego, California, for the entire crew, and
- 38:45Speaker 1: again we want to thank our good friend Stephanie at
- 38:48Speaker 1: Bistalk Radio. Thank you for tuning in for John Beg,
- 38:50Speaker 1: Nasco Tuget Cael of Fox. I'm Brian main stay Safe.
- 38:53Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your weekend, have a great weekend.
- 38:55Speaker 1: We'll do it again right here back at the old
- 38:57Speaker 1: poolhouse in San Diego. This is gardener Mary. Take care,