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Two Weeks | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 108 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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I'm Jessica and this is Teba K Rambles.
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We're a couple of friends review Korean dramas and we're back
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with a throwback K drama review. And for this episode, I think
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you know who's here. It's Lola from Lola pops up
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about K dramas. How are you, Lola?
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I am well, and I'm so excited. Of course, to be doing another
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throwback episode with you is my favorite.
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You're like my go to for a lot of these because you were there
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boots on the ground for so much of this and you are very willing
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and able to rewatch some of these shows.
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For those who haven't heard Lola on the podcast before, she was
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most recently on the sad K dramas episode.
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She was on When Life Gives you Tangerines episode, and I think
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she was on the I'm sorry, I Love you episode.
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Those were your last three guest boss, but I love having you on.
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And I know we were talking a little bit earlier, but what are
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what are you watching right now? What's going on?
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So I'm actually watching a lot. I've been finishing things.
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I'm very proud of myself. But right now I did get started
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with the, of course famous perfect crown that everyone is
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kind of talking about. So.
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Girl what are your thoughts? I'm hearing so many mixed.
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I don't know yet. I'm going to be honest.
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This is this is rare for me. I feel like I'm able to clock my
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my feelings on a drama very, very early on and I'm not sure
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about this one. So I'm, I'm kind of refraining
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from really, you know, passing judgement on this one.
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I think, right. I'm, I'm, I think I'm still
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slightly excited to see like watch it, but I can't say why
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yet. And I don't know if that
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excitement is going to fizzle out at some point, you know, so
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I just got started with it. I don't want to say too much too
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soon and put my, you know, like put my foot in my mouth, but I
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am, I have started it. I have started it.
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OK. So perfect crown is what you're
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currently kind of. I just start well, but one of
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the dramas that I am actually really actively loving still and
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I've been watching for, it's been on for weeks now, but
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Phantom Lawyer. I don't know, I feel like I
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haven't heard much anyone else talk about this one, but this is
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like one of my faves right now. Really.
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OK, I heard one other person and I can't know who it is talking
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about Phantom Lawyer and they said it was good and they were
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enjoying it. Yeah, so that's my my actual
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fave right now, so. OK.
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All right, well, thank you for sharing what you are currently
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watching Perfect Crown and Phantom Lawyer.
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We're going to get going on this review of two weeks.
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This is my first time watching this and this is a rewatch for
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show And here we go, 2 weeks. Are you ready?
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I'm ready. I'm ready.
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Here's the Cocoa Plus synopsis. It's very short.
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It reads an aimless man finds resolve when he is framed for
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murder and has only two weeks to save his sick daughter.
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Dramatic, right, but accurate. I know I kind of just wanted
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like this is what's going on. You don't need to know all the
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details the. Details.
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Yeah, not yet. No two weeks aired from August
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to September 2013. You heard that 2013 and here we
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go. What is going on in the year
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2013? This is the year of the Boston
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Marathon bombing. The number one movie of the year
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was Frozen and everyone was captivated by Let It Go.
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Orange is the New Black premiered on Netflix.
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Lance Armstrong admits to doping in all seven of his Tour de
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France victories. Paul.
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Sorry, not funny, but it was funny that you put that one like
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let me, let me guy, let me remind you of this one, guys.
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That's funny. Because I was an owner of a
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Livestrong bracelet, so I. You felt very much like watching
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this. You're like, how could you?
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Yeah. So but also Paul Walker died
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this year very famously on the radio.
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What was on the radio? Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball and
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We can't Stop Clarity by Zed, featuring foxes.
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I used to run in the gym to Clarity.
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Clarity. I listen to that song maybe at
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least every two weeks, like. I understand.
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This. To this day I cannot.
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I still love it. Royals by Lorde was on the
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radio. She was a teenage phenom at that
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point. She wasn't our age.
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No, exactly. No.
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Suit and Tie and Mirrors by Justin Timberlake because the
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2020 experience. What a great album.
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Really, I was never a JT fan. Oh my God, girl, that was it.
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I know, I know. That was the last time he
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peaked. Was that was this album and then
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thrift Shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis was also terrorizing
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us I. Definitely couldn't say I was.
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I couldn't. I don't ever have to hear that
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song. Ever.
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Again, I have a vague memory. It's not even vague.
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I have a memory of going to. I'd spent my spring break, which
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I did not have a spring break because I was already graduating
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college by then. So I took off work.
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Took off and made a spring break.
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To go drive, to spend spring break with a friend who is still
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in school in the middle of nowhere Georgia.
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And she goes, I can't really leave campus because I'm on the
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lacrosse team and I have a couple of games.
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We have practices and whatever. And I was like, oh, it's.
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Spring break, are you going to have?
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No, no, no, it was the whole thing and it was cold.
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It was freaking cold in Georgia during the spring break.
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And so I went and spent time with her and stayed with her
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during this week. Everywhere we went, the the song
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Thrift shot. On and.
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On and over and over and over. Played it out.
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I went to a lacrosse game for the first time in my life and
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no, no shades of those who play lacrosse.
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It is not the sport for me. I was like, and then they they
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sucked like her team sucked as well.
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And then Macklemore in the background background.
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I'm going off a. Worst spring?
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Break. Oh my God.
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That's what it sounds. Like it snowed and my car
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battery died and it was an entire thing.
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Yeah, that sounds horrible. It was.
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Horrible. So when I think of Macklemore.
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You think of that week. What the hell was I thinking?
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I would never do that now. So anyway, and then just to add
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matter, because we're living in a historic moment where Big Bang
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is at Coachella. Yes, yes, yes.
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So. This show came out before Tae
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Yang's eyes, nose, lips was released.
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Yes. And three years before the icon,
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I don't know, question mark that is Moon Lovers, Scarlet Heart,
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Rio. It's an infamous like icon, you
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know, like everyone knows. Everyone has a an opinion about
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moon lovers, scarlet Heart, Rio, time and place for it and this
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is 3 years. Before that for that.
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Yes, so now that we have 2013 firmly in mind, this show is 16
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episodes long and it's got a couple of directors.
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Sun Hyung Sook and TE Jung Heu both directed this.
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They've got 7 projects each to their name.
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For Hyung Sook, we've got personal taste from 2010 and.
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Angels say anything. Let's not say anything.
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Shiner go crazy from 2015. The Guardians really hasn't done
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much since that era. The 20 Tens and then Tong Q has
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also done 7 projects including The King's Doctor Triangle,
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Children of Nobody, The Double Judge from 2021, soundtrack #2
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from 2023, and The East Palace, which is I think on Netflix if
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you want to watch that. But what's your experience with
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these directors? I, I think for me, I, I am a
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junk young fan because he did the double Judge for me in 2021.
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So he stole my heart with that one.
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So much so that I'm still actively searching.
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Well, this isn't him as a director, but this is more about
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the writer from Double Judge. But I'm actively still seeking
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to locate the actual script. Like in book form they have it
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and I want it so. You know, and maybe this is for
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someone who's listening, who has connections.
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Yeah. If you want to get on the A-24
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level and create really good merch for some of these shows
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and some of these creators, I would be totally on board.
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I would buy a look book script of my favorite K drama.
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All day. All day.
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All day, every. Day, fun facts, annotated,
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translated, the whole thing. I would buy it.
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Screen stills, behind the scenes stills.
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My family, you know, there's a market for it and a 24 has
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really tapped into it. They have, yeah.
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With like these novelty products and if they started doing that
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for K dramas, Oh my God. I it's, I mean, I would be in
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trouble. Yeah, same.
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Goodbye, Patrol. Actually, don't do it.
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Though that Never mind, never mind.
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I didn't say never mind, never mind Two weeks was written by so
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Hyung hyung. It is a female screenwriter and
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she's been writing since the early aughts.
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She so in love Brilliant legacy, which I really like.
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Brilliant legacy, yeah. I did a throwback episode of
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this a couple years ago. Yes you did, and I listened all
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the way through that episode. Girl love living with that
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episode love. So definitely check out Lola's
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brilliant Legacy episode. That's a show from 2009,
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Prosecutor Princess. So our female lead lays A
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prosecutor back-to-back. Mm hmm.
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Back-to-back. I'm credible.
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And then 49 days, 49 days, she wrote.
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Love 49 days. And my golden life and glamorous
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days most recently. So what's your what's your
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experience with a screenwriter? I like her if you can't tell.
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I do like her but she's also super dramatic though so no no.
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No, that's the thing. That's the thing right?
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She is a drama queen literally like brilliant legacy 49 days
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like you're you're in for. I mean, Even so young my
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daughter like it's it can get a little, you know, family drama,
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weekend drama heavy. So I actually really love her.
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But you have to be ready for the drama.
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Yeah. And you know what?
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She has a style and she sticks to it.
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She sticks to it. I have to admire her for that.
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I honestly know it's not like these screenwriters and
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directors where you're like, these are disparate projects.
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I can't even find a through line here.
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No, she she's on it. Yeah.
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Yeah, you can. She has the name on it.
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Yeah, yeah. Two Week stars Ejin Ghee as
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Zhang Tehsan. He's the male lead of the show.
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He's been wow, I think maybe just over 20 years.
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He has been in dramas including My Girl from O Five, Time
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Between Dog and Wolf, Ultimate, The Phantom Thief, Arang and The
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Magistrate, Scholar Who Walks the Night, Moon Lovers, Criminal
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Minds, Lawless Lawyer, Flower of Evil Again, My Life, and most
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recently Arthal Chronicles The Sword of Adam Moon from 2023.
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So he has not been in dramas and doesn't look like he has an
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upcoming drama either. For a few years, three years
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now, I've watched Flower of Evil, obviously, and there's a
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big deep dive on the podcast, Moon Lovers.
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Obviously, there's a big deep dive on the podcast.
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A scholar who walks tonight, I think he's a vampire in that
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Adang in the Magistrate. I've watched that.
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I dropped Ultimate. I love ultimate.
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I don't know if anyone else feels a certain type of way, but
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he got his start basically playing effeminate characters.
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He has. He did.
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That's his origins. That's the origin story of this
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man. And then in recent years, or as
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his career has progressed, he's played overtly masculine
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characters swinging the other way.
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It makes me raise my eyebrows of like, oh wow, what was he
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hearing? What was he?
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What kind of scripts was he getting for him to swing
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completely the other way? But.
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I think he's very well, at least for me.
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My experience with him with I've been with him for a long time
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and I love him best in his action roles.
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I think he is very talented and and physical, I think because
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even in when his effeminate roles, like in the film, I can't
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remember the name of it. Yeah.
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Like he was, he was. I put him on the map, put him on
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the map and he was do he was a Acrobat in that one, you know
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what I mean? So it's like, I think he's
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physically very he was always physically very adept.
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And so I think that's what pushed him maybe more towards
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the more masculine, like really, really masculine roles because
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they were more action heavy. He was good at those things.
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And so I enjoy him in action roles.
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Yeah. I think he's really good.
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I think he's really good, yeah. I like him too.
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He's very over the top up in the show.
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I will say very over the top. I know we're going to talk about
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some of those crying. Scenes and what's oh.
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You know, the hand, the hands in the head, the head in the hands
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scenes. Yeah.
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Oh God, I have a lot of those. No, legit.
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His Co star is Kim Soyoung. She plays Pakjek Young.
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She's the female lead and prosecutor of this show.
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She's been in about 30 TV shows. You've seen her in something
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she's been in all about Eve, Iris Prosecutor Princess, which
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we already mentioned. Athena got a savor Iris 2.
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I think she was in the Iris movie as well, in need of
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romance. Three beating again, which I
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feel like we've talked about beating again before.
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All the Penthouse shows seasons 123 tale, the 9 tale 1938 and
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most recently A Virtuous Business from 2024.
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How do you feel about this actress?
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Love her to pieces. She's she's I love her to
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pieces. I've watched like just you
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listing off the dramas, I was like Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep,
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Yep. Like I have watched, I've almost
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watched everything with her and except the penthouses, I've
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watched everything else but penthouses.
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Yeah. Well, the pen out, those are
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very those are clearly mock John.
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So mock John and the writer is, I mean, that writer is a mess.
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I'm sorry. I know people love Penthouse,
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and I haven't gave it a fair shot, obviously, because I just
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feel like I've watched it through everyone talking about
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it when it was airing. So I just don't have the, you
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know, I don't feel the need to go and watch it because I'm
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like, I feel like I've seen all the major twists and turns and
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all the right mahjong moment. So I'm like, I don't really need
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to go back. But yeah, that writer, that
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writers, the fact that she did three of them, I was like, OK.
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OK, found something she likes. Smelled like OK sorry.
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The other stars of the show are Vu, Sue Young and Pak Hassan.
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They play Song Wu and Inhe respectively.
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And then there's a bunch of older stars as well.
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Kim Heyok, Tominki, Song Jedim. Who plays the Mr. Kim, who's
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like an assassin character. And rest in peace, my song.
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Tons of people, familiar faces, and it's kind of an extensive
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cast, but I will focus on those two.
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Why don't you tell me how you feel about two weeks having
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watched it again? It might be different, I think,
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than your initial watch. It definitely was different from
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my initial watch. I watched it when it was Eric,
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so I was on the you know, I when you're watching a drama like
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this that's so action and so thriller like, Oh my gosh, we
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got to get to the next episode. You having to wait, you know,
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the next week for the off the cliffhangers.
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It was really exciting. It was so exciting back then.
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I was having a blast with this drama, but I do feel like over
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time I kind of forgotten about it.
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Like I kind of just was like, wait, I did watch that drama.
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I remember enjoying it like why can't I really pinpoint like me
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loving it? I think so.
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And I think it was because at some point, and this is I don't
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know, and I we said this a little bit earlier when we were
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talking, I felt that it got repetitive towards the end.
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Like the structure of the episodes felt very play by play,
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like you knew exactly what was how it's going to start.
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You know exactly what was going to kind of happen in the middle.
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Something doesn't happen going to throw him off his game.
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Then by the end we're going to have this big cliffhanger moment
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and then next episode. So it was just like that rhythm
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started to get a little we're like, OK, all right.
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And the plot points just didn't seem as exciting as I remembered
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them. Yes, not having to wait two
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weeks for the next episodes. I mean the not two weeks, but
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waiting one week for the next episode.
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So I feel like yeah, it wasn't as exciting for as a rewatch
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obviously than the first time. What did you think of the
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performances? I actually really was shocked by
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how when you said he was giving over over the top, I was
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thinking of the same thing. Even with Sue Young, I was like,
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this is wow, what was this, what we were doing in 2013?
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And then I'm like, yeah, I think it was.
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I don't know why I forgot that, but we were very much.
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We were doing this. We were doing this.
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We were doing a lot. We were doing a lot the the, the
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crying scenes were so big, so, so big.
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And also the I guess you wouldn't call her the second
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female lead, but she's like one of the big leads.
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What is her name? Who's the mother in?
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The character's name. Yeah, character's name in Hay.
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But the actress is Park Khan's son.
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Like I was reminded of her and her acting because I, I remember
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watching her back in the day all the time and just seeing her all
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the time being like, OK, I think I'm supposed to really, really
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love this actress. But I was like the actual
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acting. The actual acting though, it was
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always so mediocre and I was really reminded of that watching
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her again in two weeks. I was like oh man, Dang it.
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I feel like I really love her. Like but her acting.
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Not so strong. Not so strong.
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So yeah, the acting was questionable.
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But she's so pretty, and what I will say about her is like,
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she's such an archetype. She is this.
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Character, she's such an archetype.
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You saw her all the time. Drama.
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There was this like beautiful woman who is like on a pedestal.
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Yes, you know, I mean literally she was on, she was a statue at
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one point and literally. You're.
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Right. He was actually on a pedestal.
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Literally, literally on this show.
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And she's kind of untouchable. She's perfect.
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She's a perfect woman and. The perfect mother.
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Perfect mother like you know, she's flawless and.
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That character I that archetype has gone by the wayside.
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Absolutely, absolutely. And that's why it felt like we
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were in 2013. Like I felt like I went back to
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2013. Everything placed me there, the
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acting, the hair, the styling, everything was like, OK, let's
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just go back to 2013. Like we're not in, we're not in
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2026, we're in 2013. And I think that helped me of
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course, with the rewatch. But there there are moments when
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you're going back to these K dramas from yesteryear.
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You're like, yeah, some, but it just, you know, doesn't
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technically stand the test to try.
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Yeah, you feel like you're it's dated.
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It feels a little dated. Right.
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Yeah, OK. I freaking love this show.
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Like, for for all the reasons that you've listed.
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I also like really like this show.
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Exactly. Just because it's 2013 doesn't
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mean you can't love it. 2013 I agree with everything that
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you're saying. This acting is very over the top
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in a lot of places. And then other places, you're
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like, OK, but the drama really does warrant something to this
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effect, you know, where someone is pumping their fists at the
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air and just like, oh. Yeah, how can this happen?
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Yeah. And you're like, oh, totally
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into it. And then other times I'm like
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this feels like I'm watching a novella, like a Spanish Noela.
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Like it's just, I can't take it seriously.
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Yes, very hokey. It's very over the top.
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It's just not elegant, you know? It's so clunky.
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It was. It was clunky.
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You got clunky? Yes, absolutely.
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And so I can't I it was a very uneven performance from
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everybody and I will say the first half was pitch perfect to
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me. It was great, the first.
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Half. Great, great, great.
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And then they start running it back and they start repeating
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and they start with, I mean, the character changes, his approach
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to the whole situation changes. And you're like, OK, I
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understand. That this is good this.
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Is good, but then he starts working with other characters
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and they start trying to lay traps for the bad guys basically
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and they get out of it every single time.
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It's very Scooby-doo. So scooby-doo, it's a great
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description. Scooby-doo, it's like you have
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the formula. They we have set up how this
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structure is gonna work for the next 10 episodes.
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Get ready. Yeah, it's like, whoa, okay,
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right. So it's like watching a
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scooby-doo episode where you know how they're gonna get to
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the end and the villain is gonna be revealed.
22:26
They're gonna pull the mask off. It wasn't for you meddling kids.
22:30
Yeah, and someones A mole. I'm like, we need to take care
22:33
of this mole. Earlier, the mole in the Police
22:36
Department was like killing me. He's.
22:38
Throwing me inside. So frustrating.
22:40
My gosh. And you have your guesses as to
22:43
who it is, And so do the characters.
22:45
I'm sure they don't address it. They still go through with these
22:48
large scale plans and. While the molds just sit.
22:51
There, there's a mold. Someone's going to leak.
22:53
This. Like awkward.
22:55
They know that and they still go through with it.
22:57
And I'm like, why? So stuff like that was really
23:00
irritating the longer the show went on.
23:03
Yes. And if you're not a fan of the
23:06
the male lead or the protagonist losing 99% of the show, you're
23:11
not going to like this show. No wins, no wins.
23:14
Just trying to keep his head above water.
23:17
Birth the majority of the show. They have this man on the ropes
23:19
for at least 12 episodes straight. 12 episodes.
23:22
I mean, I would give him fourteen straight. 14 honestly,
23:26
because even when he starts to work with the cops and the
23:30
prosecutor, it's still a losing battle every time.
23:33
Still, every time. Yeah, every time.
23:35
I mean, he gets so close and so and so far at the same time at
23:40
the end of every episode and every episode we're like, we've
23:43
made it this far for him to OK, boom, boom.
23:47
The cliffhanger happens and you're like I, but I swear that
23:50
we weren't back here. We were fine.
23:52
We were fine guys. We had made it past this part.
23:54
What do you mean? What do you mean that person's
23:57
back? What do?
23:57
You mean the music in this show? Horrible.
24:03
No, how dare you. I knew you were going to say it
24:05
was horrible. I was going to stand up for
24:07
that. That nail song, that nail song
24:10
at the end of each episode when it was like, dude, dude, I ate
24:14
it. Up.
24:15
I don't know. That was the most, you know how
24:17
they say like music and like cliche.
24:19
Now it takes you back to a time like that was what triggered me
24:22
the most. But that's.
24:23
The thing is that this show is so K drama that I was like OK
24:26
but then after certain point it started to grate on me and I was
24:30
like no no no I can't support this.
24:32
I can't afford this. I mean, I wouldn't say the
24:34
entire OST. It's just that song, no?
24:37
It's not even the OST, it's just the score.
24:39
Music, the actual score, yeah, yeah, that's, I mean, that
24:42
opening score is I love that score.
24:45
It was. It just signaled.
24:47
I was like, what is this Walmart Jason Bourne music that they
24:50
have? It, yeah, it was.
24:52
It was very dated though. It was because I can think of, I
24:55
can think of like maybe five other dramas from that time, the
24:58
same score. Exactly.
25:01
I think it's the exact same person who did it for everyone.
25:05
I mean, I'm like, this is the exact same person who did this.
25:08
It's so tacky, I can't. But it transports you to a time.
25:12
And you're right, it does. This is one of those shows where
25:15
everybody's connected in ways that you don't expect, but then
25:17
you kind of do expect that everyone is connected.
25:20
And I was like, I've lost this like part this 6th sense a
25:24
little bit that I used to have. Because I love this and.
25:28
People aren't connected as much nowadays in K dramas.
25:33
In this one, it's like, oh. Everybody has the assassin with
25:37
what else? Dad is the father of the sass.
25:41
The Sassin is this is related to?
25:43
Yeah, absolutely. I was like, he floated down a
25:46
river and landed, you know what I'm saying?
25:50
I thought you were giving some. No, no, no, wait, wait.
25:53
What do you mean? I was like, look.
25:56
At one point, and this isn't much of a spoiler.
25:59
OK. He gets shot, falls off a Cliff,
26:03
survives all of that, yes, and then floats down a river Rapids
26:10
to end up at this little shoreline where there's a
26:14
whitewater rafting company. There, just right there.
26:18
Which I'm like okay I've been whitewater rafting 3 times, I
26:20
understand this. And this old man is there, and
26:24
that man is connected to the whole thing.
26:27
Whole thing set up the whole thing.
26:29
The entire. They have a whole history.
26:31
I was like, what the hell? Like, you know, that's the kind
26:34
of thing where I'm like, this is beyond coincidence.
26:38
This is on another. One might be writing this.
26:40
Yeah. I was like, someone might be
26:41
really, really writing. Somebody has.
26:43
Too hard. It's very.
26:44
A little too hard, actually. You're writing a little.
26:47
Too, She might be doing too much because Oh my God.
26:50
And that was the kind of thing done times 10 in the show, yes.
26:54
Throughout the entire. Thing throughout throughout.
26:58
What else can I say about this show?
27:00
A Long story short, I had a great time like I had a great
27:04
time. I was, I was excited that you
27:07
seem to have got had that excited feeling that I remember
27:11
having the watching it the first time, but that was genuine like.
27:14
I got. I think I have a.
27:15
Blast, you did, which is wonderful.
27:18
I like backed up. In the middle between your
27:21
initial watch and your current. Current watch.
27:24
I love that because you have such a, you know, a mature cave
27:28
drummer brain watching it. So you know, you you have to
27:32
have some of the, you know the current.
27:33
You kind of have to like, laugh at a lot of.
27:35
It too you. Have to have a sense of humor
27:37
about some of it, but it's also respect for the old, the complex
27:41
respect for the old, the old ways, the old style.
27:44
Also it's serious as a heart attack like.
27:46
They're just so serious. They're not getting around.
27:49
They're not. They're not getting around.
27:50
This is not a joke, guys. This is serious.
27:52
Big Smith. Yeah, he's gonna die.
27:54
He's gonna. He's on the run.
27:58
He has to survive. I didn't.
27:59
Expect so much parkour. I did because it's it's him.
28:03
I knew it. I this is, that's kind of stuff
28:05
I was talking about where I was like and I think he did like.
28:07
He's a very physical actor, he is.
28:09
Do I believe he was doing all the parkour?
28:11
Lot of them. Come on, he did.
28:13
A lot of them. Come on.
28:15
Girl. I'm going to sit up for him and
28:18
his parkour skills. Oh my God.
28:20
Did a lot of them. Let's check in with him.
28:22
And the same with Song Denim the Assassin.
28:28
He definitely did. He did none of them.
28:29
He did none of them. He did none of them.
28:32
I'm sure, I'm sure he did none of them.
28:34
But you know, I'm a huge fan of Damon.
28:35
Again. Rest in peace, Tatum.
28:39
But I don't think he did any. I don't I don't I will fight for
28:43
Junkie, but I I won't say the same thing for J Brown.
28:46
I probably would not. That's.
28:48
Incredible that you're like no for sure he junkie did all of
28:52
his stuff. His stuff, yeah, all of his
28:54
parkour stuff. Fight me on it.
28:56
There's definitely an interview where he definitely says he does
28:59
not, but I'm probably like. It doesn't matter.
29:01
He's lying. I didn't hear that.
29:02
Like. The wardrobe on Paktikyong, that
29:06
character, I'm sorry, but I would wear that today.
29:09
I love it the. Tennis shoes.
29:11
The new balances all the blazer with the Blazers and the and the
29:17
cropped work pants. He's like, this is what we wear
29:20
today. I would wear that.
29:22
That's what we wear to wear. Yeah, I wear tennis shoes to
29:24
work every single day, so I relate wholeheartedly.
29:28
I also love her haircut back in the day when she had the
29:31
shortcut. Yes, she had like an egg.
29:34
Not an egg cut. I like her egg cut.
29:36
You know who has the same haircut?
29:37
Now? Now.
29:39
Oh my God, what's his name? I'm leave the door open.
29:44
That guy. Oh, Bruno Mars.
29:47
No, no, no. Who's the other guy?
29:49
Wait. Oh, Anderson Park.
29:53
Anderson, Pet. Is that real?
29:55
I thought it was a wig. Girl A.
29:56
Wig. Her hair is so much better than
29:58
that. OK, Oh my.
30:00
God, you cannot compare that to his head.
30:02
No apps. I will not let you do this to
30:05
her. Come on, Jess.
30:07
You know, target target lady, The SNL sketch.
30:10
No, it's not that bad, Jack. Guys, she's kidding.
30:15
It is not that bad. You're right, it's not that bad.
30:18
It looked really cute on her. It.
30:20
Did. But I had a thing where I was
30:21
like, OK, she's supposed to be Butch.
30:24
They did you tell the 1st 2 they were?
30:27
Speculating in the process. Of calling her a lesbian.
30:29
Yeah, Calling her a lesbian, Yes.
30:31
I was like, I don't remember this moment from 2013.
30:34
I was like, oh, they were talking about that back then.
30:37
They were. And then her relationship with,
30:40
oh, yes, the girl. I was like, oh, there was giving
30:42
something there, some undertones.
30:45
I did feel that way. You didn't feel that way.
30:48
My second time I felt it but also I'm a fan of like platonic
30:51
friendship. True.
30:52
Which is a real thing. Which it's a real thing.
30:54
I know people try to take that away from characters all the
30:57
time. I was like we could.
30:58
It was straddling the line because of the comments.
31:00
It was, that's why I think I turned to because I think
31:03
originally I did not get that vibe, but I think when I
31:06
connected that they had even called that out about her, I was
31:08
like, oh, were they trying to tell us something?
31:12
I don't, you know what I mean? Like I didn't know.
31:13
I didn't know, I didn't know. You mentioned Pak Hassan, who
31:18
plays Inhe like the mother character.
31:21
I had never seen her before. You've never seen her.
31:23
Never. And then like you've ever
31:24
watched her act in anything. Correct.
31:27
Jess, I'm sure you have. Right.
31:30
Well, now I have to look her up. Hold on.
31:33
Yeah, let's look her up. Wait.
31:34
I'm like Hassan, You've had to have seen her with something.
31:39
Donkey. No donkey.
31:42
No, I haven't seen Donkey before.
31:44
I have to watch it. Yeah, maybe you haven't.
31:47
I'm looking at our movies too. Even drinking solo I haven't
31:50
watched that. Midnight Runners movie.
31:54
Oh yeah, I have watched that. She's in there.
31:56
OK I've literally just watched her in Midnight Runners.
31:59
Midnight Runners. OK, OK.
32:01
She was popular back in the day. I feel like.
32:03
Yeah, I can tell all the time. I can tell.
32:06
Oh, did you check out the veil when that came out?
32:08
Remember the veil with all the money that they spent on that?
32:10
And it was horrible. No.
32:14
She was in that, she was in that.
32:16
Oh, she was in that. I dropped it.
32:18
It was it was bad. I couldn't get past like the
32:21
first half of that drama. Speaking of outfits, we have to
32:24
talk about the. MERS no the man purse on cops
32:29
and roof which doubled as his gun holster.
32:33
Not the MERS. You did not just call it a it's
32:39
a MERS. No, I'm talking about the with
32:42
all the cleavage out on Sue the actor Wu.
32:46
Sue Young Remember our detective, His chest was not Oh
32:50
my God, I. Mean cleavage.
32:52
The chest was. Oh my God.
32:54
Hex I was like come on this low. No, he's so.
32:57
Cut whatever. I could not believe that.
33:01
I couldn't believe it too. I have that in my notes about
33:04
him because there's a scene where he get he gets away pace
33:08
on the character gets away, and the prosecutor starts chewing
33:13
out some woo. Yes, that she's so mad because
33:16
he's pissed. But he's standing in front of
33:19
her black wife beater with the gun holsters the holster.
33:24
Just check the just. Over his shoulders and he hecks.
33:28
He was sweaty and I was like, wait.
33:31
It was a lot it we. Need to talk about this.
33:33
It was a. Lot, yeah, it was 'cause all of
33:35
his outfits, he had this very low cut wife beater.
33:38
Yeah, he was super slutty. Super.
33:41
Super. I promise you they cut his wife
33:44
beaters like they they were not normal cut wife beaters 'cause
33:46
they were like sagging. No.
33:48
Yeah, his whole chest, his whole cleavage, yeah was out they.
33:52
Wanted to show that man's body. Wanted to, yeah.
33:54
And I. Wasn't mad.
33:55
I wasn't mad at it wasn't, don't get me wrong.
33:57
I mean I. Kept being like it kept.
33:59
Every time it came up I was like for my notes.
34:02
For my notes. I need to turn my notes.
34:08
I just need to take notes of this.
34:09
They showed his chest again, like you said, sweaty with the
34:13
holster on. Like it's just like working.
34:17
It was working. It's working.
34:19
It's doing a lot of they do. What they do don't work, work,
34:22
work work. He was going to work.
34:24
He was definitely going to work though.
34:26
It was impressive. It was.
34:29
To see a beefy man like that, be the second beefy.
34:31
It was beefy. It was.
34:32
It was a beef cake first. So I had nothing.
34:38
No like to say, yeah, no bad notes.
34:41
Those are all good notes. No, all good notes, but I had no
34:43
polite thoughts to share. Just.
34:46
Like, I don't have anything else to say about that.
34:48
No, it was a good time. No, I was transfixed.
34:53
And they knew what they were doing.
34:54
They knew. It knew it.
34:55
The. Shots And I was like, oh, is
34:57
this supposed to also support the fact that Paktik Young that
35:01
prosecutor may or may not be a lesbian because she's just
35:04
standing there not. Yelling at him, blinking.
35:08
And not even blinking twice and I would have been like.
35:10
I would have yeah, I would have like just completely short
35:13
circuited like what was I saying?
35:15
You almost shot him? Wait, you almost cuz he's.
35:18
Undeniably sexy. He is so I mean hot, hot, hot,
35:23
hot with a capital. A It gave Eden Ghee a run for
35:28
his body. Oh it.
35:29
Definitely did. He couldn't.
35:30
I mean, he couldn't really hold a candle.
35:32
No, honestly. And then you see, you see Eden
35:35
Ghee shirtless in the show. And it's nothing, and it's
35:37
compared to. Nothing that, just that one
35:41
scene I was like. Oh, I will never forget.
35:44
Literally just. Now we just spent like 3 minutes
35:49
so I can go by his chest, try to edit this way, try to.
35:54
Edit that out because it's. Like that was they went on a
35:57
little too long on that one. They did these. 2.
36:03
I just. Thirsting over this man.
36:07
OK, anyway, Long story short, I had a good time, even if it is
36:11
definitely showing its age. Yes, definitely.
36:14
What was the most 2013 thing about the show?
36:17
Besides the hair. Which hair?
36:20
Which hair are you talking about?
36:21
Are you? Talking definitely junkies.
36:23
Yes, definitely junkies. I mean, that hair took me back
36:26
immediately. Well, they also did.
36:28
Something back to it Yeah, they kept changing because he was
36:31
going on the. Picture of it was like all
36:33
different than how I've seen in other shows.
36:35
Yeah, and even like the like the opening episodes when it was
36:37
like super frizzy. Yeah, it was like, really
36:39
frizzy, frizzy. Look fried.
36:41
Fried dyed way to the side and then they like smoothed it out
36:45
in the flashback. So it was it's like a nice
36:47
little, you know, the Bieber cut, the Bieber cut swoop.
36:50
So that was fine. But that takes me back to 2013
36:53
easily. I see hair like that and the
36:56
cage. I'm like, we must be 2011, 2012,
36:59
2013, you must be there. So hair for sure, but I think
37:04
also like the the dramatic, like I said, the writer, she has a
37:08
style and she's good with that. But I mean, it was so dramatic
37:13
and a lot of some of the stuff was heavy-handed.
37:15
Like you can see some of her references, like she, she had a
37:18
lot of biblical things in there too.
37:20
Like, I mean, I feel like that also took me back into that time
37:23
where you can tell they were just like they were writing.
37:26
They got to make sure, you know, we're connecting dots here.
37:29
We have this in there. We're throwing this in.
37:32
We're crossing our teeth. We're crossing our teeth.
37:33
Exactly. That's what it felt like.
37:35
And that took me back to 2013 for sure.
37:38
Well, the the story is so full, you know what I'm saying?
37:42
It's a full meal and often times in today's K dramas they don't
37:46
cross their TS and dot their IS. It's just the actual fault of a
37:51
lot of new K dramas and no one's talking about it.
37:54
Yeah, no. One's talking where I'm like,
37:56
why do I solve questions after this whole thing?
37:58
It shouldn't be like up to interpretation.
38:00
It should be like, oh, why did that person just, you know what
38:04
I'm saying? People disappear in these dramas
38:06
all the time. Like what happened to that
38:07
character? Like there's no actual arc.
38:10
Like, why did she peak an episode before?
38:13
Like, I don't understand. Yeah, no one's talking about
38:17
that. And so this one felt very full,
38:19
full circle, all-encompassing it.
38:21
Was everything that we wanted to connect, she knew.
38:25
Where things are going to end. And she wrote it that way.
38:29
I love it. I love.
38:30
It so like, despite us kind of criticizing the style, we're
38:36
also admiring how absolutely she really had an outline here for
38:42
how this was going to end. It made me think about those
38:44
dramas back then too, like the Iris irises, you know, where
38:47
it's just like you have too many characters not to be with your
38:52
like character. You need a chart on a big white
38:55
board. You need to be drawing lines.
38:57
You need to be having people cross checking.
39:00
Like you need to have a couple editors involved in this.
39:02
Like you can tell that was involved in this, in this
39:05
writing where it's like, OK, we have too many characters, too
39:08
many places we want to connect them to.
39:10
We want everyone connected. We have these things happening
39:13
simultaneously. We have this big political arc,
39:16
you know, that we're we're touching on that's connected to
39:18
the small fry. You know, we have to make it all
39:22
connect to make sense and so you can see the storyboard layout.
39:25
I felt like you could see it written out and I thought that
39:28
was really well done. Yeah, that's what.
39:30
It was done. Yeah, it.
39:31
Was, I think the most 2013 about this thing is the fact that
39:36
we're living in a in 2013, we were living in an era where we
39:39
had cell phones, but we also have pay phones.
39:41
Oh. Yes.
39:43
Oh my God. And not everyone had a cell
39:46
phone. And not everyone had, you know.
39:49
Access to the page. So it was this weird in between
39:52
time. I love that.
39:54
Where we, we were like, oh, we'll just not communicate or,
39:59
you know, take the trouble and talk to somebody on the pay
40:01
phone. Find a payphone.
40:03
I forget about the payphone and their their absence these days,
40:08
because I remember when they're like the last payphone ever.
40:10
It's got it's finally been removed in the states.
40:12
So it was like that's the thing, like people got rid of these
40:15
payphones and but back in K drama land, the payphone was a
40:20
huge like it's a lifeline. It's a big piece of a plot
40:24
sometimes, like if you don't have that payphone scene, the
40:27
whole drama wouldn't be the drama, you know.
40:29
So you're absolutely right. It was in between.
40:33
Between time of like analog and and this interconnected, like
40:38
people are taking video of some events that are happening on
40:42
their cell phone and I'm like, Oh my God, but then like nothing
40:44
comes of it. They don't, they don't sound
40:45
like oh, but then they posted it and now it's gone viral and my
40:49
face is. Everywhere viral.
40:50
Stuff no like the news was very important, the media.
40:53
Traditional Traditional meeting was the.
40:56
Newspaper was very important. He's holding a newspaper and his
40:59
face is on the newspaper. I remember I like that scene
41:03
because he also was trying to hide because he but he was very
41:06
bold about it. He was like he stared him right
41:08
in the face, like it's not me. But then there's all the CCTV
41:13
that's constantly catching them at different points and I I
41:17
loved this exact time period because it had everything.
41:22
I love it too. I'm sorry, I don't have bias.
41:25
I am very biased. If anyone has ever listened to
41:27
me talking about K drovers, they probably know I'm quite biased
41:30
to a time and K drove the land and this is that time.
41:33
But I think you're highlighting such a something that I guess I
41:37
didn't even note for myself about why maybe I'm still so
41:40
drawn to that time. It does kind of put me back in a
41:43
space where things that just are no longer a thing, I get to see
41:48
them a thing again. And I think that is a cool a
41:52
cool thing to do sometimes to go back and see something that you
41:55
don't get to see it everyday in K dramas.
41:58
Absolutely, I had a lot of fun. What would you rate this drama
42:02
out of Fives Hoji bottles? Back in the day it was pretty
42:05
high. I think back in the day, my
42:06
first watch, I was definitely probably a 4.5.
42:10
Like I thought it was super and I enjoyed the process of
42:14
watching this drama back then. I the.
42:15
Thing is, this benefits from the weekly watch.
42:18
It does. It's huge.
42:19
I mean, the anticipation I the waiting for the next week to
42:23
watch what was going to happen was was a huge selling point for
42:27
this drama for me. So I think back then I would
42:30
have rated it very, very high. But over time, like I mentioned,
42:33
I think I really forgot about this drama.
42:36
So I feel like that obviously that means that for me, it
42:38
didn't stand the test of my time with K dramas, you know, so and
42:43
then after the rewatch, like I said, I kind of felt like it was
42:46
I saw a lot of the like, OK, OK, guys, we're doing this again and
42:50
again and again. I think I know even if I hadn't
42:53
watched it in the past, I feel like if I had watched it now for
42:56
the first time, I feel like I would have gotten all those
42:59
everything that was going to happen.
43:00
I probably would have figured it out before it happened.
43:03
I think it was like I kind of know exactly what's about to
43:06
happen in each episode. So I would say for me, it
43:09
definitely dropped down. I would probably put it around a
43:13
3.5 now, but for a first time watch in this time, you know,
43:21
watching it, you know, weekly it was it was pretty high for me,
43:25
but not so much now. OK, so it dropped up like a
43:28
point 1.1 soldier. Bottle 1.1 Soldier. 1 Soldier.
43:33
OK so you have 3.5 would have been 4.5 back in the day if I
43:36
yes did this episode with you in 2013 or?
43:39
1413 exactly. I, I would probably rate it the
43:44
same or maybe slightly higher, maybe like 4.
43:48
OK, OK. Because I had a great time.
43:51
I, I was thoroughly entertained. It was very easy to press play
43:56
on the next episode. It's a summer show.
44:00
It felt hot watching it. It felt hot, it felt hot and I
44:03
miss that. I miss that about the seasons in
44:06
Drama Land. It was very nostalgic in a lot
44:10
of ways like we have already mentioned.
44:11
But this one we haven't talked about, which is the fact that
44:13
everyone's freaking sweating, sweating their.
44:15
Sweating and you can tell, yes, it's hot out there.
44:18
It's hot. They're filming this in the
44:20
heat. And that's part of the reason
44:23
why there was such a thing about watching dramas in the season
44:27
that they were airing is because they were also filming them.
44:30
At the same time, at the same. Time.
44:32
And so everyone's dealing with the same freaking heat wave,
44:35
everyone's dealing with the same snow or freezing temperatures,
44:39
and it came across as a visceral thing in every drama that was
44:42
airing during that season. And it was very important, I
44:45
think, to the process. And it also led to all the
44:47
controversies that came out during filming back then because
44:51
of how it was like, unfair to actors, right?
44:54
They were not sleeping until 3:00 AM and they didn't get a
44:58
break and it. Was it was hot?
44:59
It was hot, yeah. It was serious business.
45:03
So. But I think, like you said, it
45:05
comes across in the portrayals, It comes across in the writing.
45:10
Like I said, you have to cross your teeth and dot your eyes
45:12
when you know people's lives on the line here before dying from
45:17
the teeth outside. You know, like they had to do a
45:19
good job of making sure we weren't just throwing anything
45:22
on the screen. So, so there was a lot of
45:28
pressure I think on dramas back then.
45:31
And I think to deliver that to deliver.
45:33
An experience. Exactly, so you have to feel
45:36
that when not even you had to you did I feel like feel that as
45:39
the audience, you felt that there was time, there was
45:41
effort, there was energy, there was pain, there was blood, there
45:44
was sweat, there was tears put into this episode.
45:47
So I'm going to enjoy it. OK.
45:49
And I think that's what I I I miss.
45:51
For sure they were hungry. They were hungry.
45:55
They were. Fighting for these spots, for
45:57
these prime time spots, they need it for the audience share
46:00
and they don't do that anymore. They're not hungry.
46:02
Anymore, they don't have to fight.
46:03
They don't fight. They just put it up on streaming
46:05
and and they'll find it somewhere.
46:07
The international audience will find it and eat it up because
46:10
they don't have some taste that the Korean audience does and
46:15
it's a different ball game. It is.
46:18
It really is. This shell did pretty well in
46:20
it's time. I was looking at the ratings.
46:22
Great, right? The first episode got between
46:25
7:00 and 8:00, and then it went up.
46:29
Yeah, it kind of did really well in episode 3.
46:34
Episode 3 got 10 to 12.8% between Seoul and nationwide and
46:39
then it kind of like stayed the same around there, 1011%, a
46:44
little dip. On episode 13, they went down to
46:47
8 to 9.7% and then it went back up and it ended with like double
46:53
digits for viewership. So people would love these
46:57
numbers now. People were watching it, man.
47:00
We were. They were locked in.
47:02
They were locked in I think 4's, I think 4. 4 is pretty I'm being
47:06
very kind, but also I'm not yes, I was gonna say that.
47:11
I'm like, it's getting me at a good time, but also I don't feel
47:14
like I'm doing the drama a favor by rating at 4 out of five sold
47:17
you bottles. Exactly.
47:19
And it's not far off from your rating, which is 3.5. 3.5 yes,
47:22
yes. We're near, we're really near
47:24
each other. We had we had very similar
47:26
experiences. Absolutely.
47:29
All right, we're going to get started on the spoiler section
47:32
right after this. Excuse me, you know I have no
47:37
change. I'm sorry.
47:48
All right, we're on the other side of spoilers.
47:49
We're going to spoil what happens in this show.
47:51
We really didn't give too much away.
47:53
I think I said 1 scene that happened thing that happened in
47:58
the non spoiler section. But really we haven't.
48:00
I have notes episode by episode. However, I am not going to go
48:03
plop B by plop BI. Think that's kind of a waste of
48:06
time, but I do have notes that I want to cover in episode 1, we
48:12
they start us in right? They drop us right in the middle
48:16
of the action 'cause he's sitting in the back of a cop
48:19
car. You don't know why he's there.
48:21
He's covered in injuries and cuts and scrapes and then
48:25
there's this girl driving crazy in a Nissan 350Z, which the
48:30
Nissan 350. When I saw that car, I was like,
48:32
Oh my God, that car was hot. That car was hot back then.
48:35
I wanted that car. Wanted.
48:36
That car, yes, the Nissan I wanted.
48:40
Oh my God. So it was very nostalgic to see
48:42
that car again, but this girl's driving crazy and she ends up
48:45
causing this massive pile up and the cop van that's got him
48:50
crashes and it's this whole you're like, Oh my God.
48:53
What the hell has happened? Opening sequence.
48:55
That's your opening sequence, that's your hook, and boom, they
48:58
take you back in time to show you how he got there.
49:01
I love that. Right, I love it.
49:03
Forgot that was a moment. I was like, why did they just
49:07
completely throw us in there? But I do remember feeling like
49:10
this was a drama that definitely like stacks, like it was a drama
49:15
that like every episode we're going to get another layer.
49:18
I'm just going to get further and further into this, like
49:20
momentum. Absolutely.
49:22
It was so nonstop. So to have an opening sequence
49:25
like that, you were set up for what was gonna come.
49:28
It was like this drum was not gonna slow down at any point.
49:30
It's just gonna keep going. It had its foot on the freaking
49:33
gas it. Had two, I mean, they had the
49:36
title in itself. Knowing that we had two, two
49:38
weeks, it was perfect. It was like, we're about to get
49:42
this all done in two weeks, guys, so buckle up.
49:46
And I thought oh man I forgot to say this in the non spoilers
49:49
section but I love the fact that there each episode is a day.
49:53
I love that and then the showing the time at the bottom of the
49:56
screen when we would have like they would signal how long
49:59
something would happen or how long he was hiding somewhere.
50:03
I really did like that too. Yeah, and the little device of
50:06
the daughter crossing off the Dick.
50:09
And that's when the song kick in.
50:11
And yes, I love those. I love the cross of the day and
50:14
the song with Kick In. And there's a dopey smile like.
50:18
He's, well, he's, he's literally getting shot.
50:20
And she's like, he, he, he yeah, I saw day 7.
50:23
Like, I was like, Oh my God, he's gonna die, I think.
50:28
This whole show, Oh my God. You know Monsters Inc.
50:31
Yes. When Sully thinks that Boo is
50:34
being eaten up by the garbage. Yes.
50:37
Yeah, the garbage. Compactor, Compactor, yes, thank
50:42
you and. He's freaking out and he's like
50:46
and like going through all of these emotions.
50:47
And she's right. There, and she's right there and
50:48
nothing's happening. That is me watching the show.
50:51
I am Sully. You are Sully crying, freaking
50:54
out like it was gonna happen. And we're like, I'm over here.
50:58
Like I know kind of how this ends.
51:00
Right. You're the Mike Wazowski in this
51:02
situation. He's like, where were you?
51:03
Let's go. I love that we have a monsters.
51:08
Inc No, we do. We have to perfect.
51:10
This is perfect. Pixar all day.
51:12
The main character, Tehsan, who is our jiggy character.
51:15
He's a gambler, Reluctant. Gigolo.
51:18
Reluctant. Very reluctant.
51:20
Very seriously gigolo and an ex mobster slash gangster type who
51:26
has done prison time and he's working in a pawn shop and I was
51:31
like this is very man from nowhere.
51:34
You know what I'm saying? It was.
51:37
I mean, did we catch that then? I don't know.
51:40
I don't know if we did. I don't.
51:41
Well, I wasn't watching The Man from Nowhere in 2013, and it
51:43
came a few years later, but I thought that this was like a
51:47
thing back then all of a sudden, like the pawn shop worker with
51:50
the heart of gold. I think it is a thing.
51:53
I don't know. I don't know why why pawn shops
51:56
were so big back then. Girl, I don't know, but he turns
52:01
on the TV after this one night stand that he was very reluctant
52:04
to do. He kind of basically got too
52:06
drunk and slept with this lady, and she gave him money from
52:09
sleeping with her. So he's like, damn it, like he's
52:11
kind of like, fuck, I didn't mean to do that.
52:13
But anyway, he gets home and he turns on the TV and he's
52:17
watching Reply 1997. Yeah.
52:22
I was shocked to see reply in 1997 on the.
52:25
Screen I, I, I, I'm surprised they did that.
52:28
Like, I don't know, I feel like they didn't do that very often
52:31
back then, did they? I mean.
52:33
Well, to show a drama within another drama, I feel like I've
52:35
seen that quite a bit, but it's always a surprise.
52:38
Surprise or it's always like a older like classic.
52:41
So that's why I guess I was too recent.
52:43
It's recent. Yeah, I was.
52:44
That's why I think threw me off. I'm like, usually a show like a
52:46
classic, like All In would be playing, right, Right, right.
52:49
But this was too recent. I was like, I see.
52:52
Network hold. On Was it NBC I Think.
52:55
It's it might be the same network.
52:57
Yeah, I think it was NBC. Yeah, it's NBC.
53:01
I think that's why. So that's why it's.
53:03
Basically free advertisement free.
53:04
Advertisement Let's go throw that one in there real quick,
53:07
yeah? But this is my favorite part of
53:09
the show is that when he, the ex shows up Inhe yes, inhe shows up
53:15
and she's like, hey, I need you. I'm actually, I'm demanding that
53:19
you go get a blood test to see if you're viable for a bone
53:23
marrow donation because surprise, you have an 8 year old
53:28
daughter. With leukemia and she's dying.
53:30
She's dying. Need.
53:31
You. Yeah.
53:33
Oh my God. And the flashback is so damning
53:36
of him telling her to get an abortion.
53:39
Abortion doesn't love her anymore.
53:40
This is the baby and her are burdened to him and he's being
53:43
really cruel. And I'm like, Oh no.
53:45
What happened? Why would you do that to her?
53:47
You know, why would he possibly do that to somebody that he's
53:52
been dating? Obviously, what there has to me,
53:57
even then, back then I was like, come on, you got to know there's
54:00
something else going on. Like why would he?
54:02
That's the. Thing is that you're like, oh, I
54:05
see Sonia is an idiot because she look, look, not for nothing,
54:13
but if he did something and and it turns out that this is
54:16
totally out of character. He was doing this.
54:18
He would never do this. He would never do this.
54:19
He was actually happy that she was pregnant and all this stuff.
54:22
It's it's a whole lie that he fed her because he wanted to
54:27
break up with her and save her life because her life was being
54:31
threatened by the big bad gangster guy.
54:35
All good and fine, but if I was her exactly I would have done
54:39
more digging. She knew that he was in some
54:40
sort of shit right? Like he he had some sort.
54:43
Of path she. Knew that she wanted him to get
54:45
out of the gangster life, liquor job, that he was slinging like
54:51
liquor as a delivery guy sort of thing.
54:54
And she was like, I don't think you should do that anymore.
54:56
And he was like, yeah, of course I was kind of.
54:58
Quit anyway. I didn't wanna do this.
55:00
Yeah. So he was already committing to
55:03
the straight and narrow and then he goes and pulls this night
55:05
like she didn't do enough. To question or to probe because
55:10
it's true. Like when someone does something
55:11
that's completely out of their character, right?
55:14
Just being a good human, you need to in that moment, be like,
55:17
hey, this isn't really you. Yeah, like, what's going on?
55:20
Get the. Story.
55:21
Get the full story. And then in the eight years
55:24
proceeding, she didn't look up anything.
55:27
Where he was. Where he was, she didn't.
55:30
She didn't go into any databases and look up his name.
55:32
Nothing. He went on a boat somewhere.
55:35
She's. People do more for 1st dates.
55:37
Thank you. Then she did it, then she did
55:40
dating this person and getting pregnant by him and no, no, the
55:43
baby like having the baby. So it's like you have a a actual
55:47
child from this man that you completely erased from your
55:49
memory. Like you completely didn't look
55:52
him and look into him. Where did he end up going?
55:54
Did he really end up leaving? Did he get on that boat?
55:57
I'm just curious to know. But then eight years later, when
56:00
your daughter is really, really sick and you need something now
56:03
you can remember him. I was like you.
56:04
This could have. We could have.
56:06
Got her all Be for real, be for. Yeah, a lot quicker.
56:09
No could have. So I didn't like Sony nay at
56:12
all. I felt really, I was so
56:15
frustrated with her in this this watch.
56:17
I was like, I could not believe she did not even try.
56:20
She. Didn't try and then to find him
56:23
finally after eight years to get the bone marrow thing, she hired
56:26
a Private Eye. I was like girl so she so you
56:29
can hire a Private Eye after eight years.
56:31
Get somebody so you know how to find somebody.
56:33
Got it, Got it. Girl.
56:37
I mean all back, let me come back.
56:38
Let me come back for NA, even though after their little break
56:43
up, that whole moment her having a baby, she was without money.
56:47
She had had a falling out with her family who were not in.
56:50
Not in. She got.
56:51
Disowned. She got disowned, so I feel like
56:53
she did have a lot on her plate. She was a single mom.
56:56
She was a single mom. She couldn't afford to, you
56:58
know, she could barely afford a place to live during the winter
57:01
time, you know, with her little child.
57:03
So I, I yes, we a. Little bit of grace.
57:06
A little bit of grace for a mom who was single you.
57:09
Can go into a PC Vong and freaking look up and look.
57:12
Criminal and look him up. You can.
57:13
Yeah, yeah, you can. She didn't, she didn't try.
57:17
She just said, oh, he broke my heart.
57:19
I am. I got I'm, I'm erasing him from
57:22
my memories. I don't, I don't know.
57:24
It was weird. It was weird.
57:25
You can look into him. No, I'm sorry.
57:28
He is the only match to his daughter for a bone marrow
57:32
transplant and now the clock is ticking.
57:35
He's got two weeks until the surgery.
57:37
Surgery, he has to be ready for the surgery and the doctor makes
57:40
it very plain and clear. If you guys don't let me, let me
57:44
make this very plain and clear to you guys listening because it
57:46
was made very plain and clear to us in the open of this reveal of
57:51
him being the perfect match for his daughter.
57:53
He has to remain super healthy during this time.
57:59
He cannot get any type of infection, infection, infection
58:03
in any kind. So that he is in perfect mint
58:06
condition to be this, you know, bone marrow transplant donor.
58:11
Donor, yeah. For his daughter, which I.
58:13
Haven't done and this is on purpose.
58:16
I did not look into bone marrow transplant.
58:18
I did either and I did I purposely.
58:20
Because. I never do that.
58:21
I never do. They're full of shit like this
58:23
whole setup and the fact that he's just out for two weeks and
58:26
they gave him no medication, medication, nothing to like beef
58:30
up his marrow, prepare him for that, nothing.
58:32
I I was like, you know what? It's fine.
58:35
I don't know. Everything's fine.
58:37
This is normal. Right, I inherently know and
58:40
this is so fabricated and wrong of a process bone marrow
58:45
transplant, but and the fact that anyway, Long story short, I
58:49
didn't look up anything or the recovery time.
58:51
Will this actually cure her leukemia?
58:53
Yeah, I just didn't want to. And, and the doctor, she does a
58:58
great job of explaining what's going to happen during those two
59:01
weeks to our little girl, our 8 year old little girl who's
59:04
already in the hospital. She's going to have to go
59:06
through a chemotherapy treatment.
59:09
Radiation treatment. Radiation treatments that are
59:11
going to is completely weakening her.
59:13
I mean to the it's. Destroying her bone marrow.
59:15
It's destroying her, the new bone marrow.
59:17
So they explain this beautifully to us, so much so that we know
59:20
that if he does not deliver on being, she's going to die.
59:25
Like this is her last shot. They are destroying her little
59:28
body during this two weeks, so much so that she will die if
59:33
he's not there. OK, so the setup is there
59:36
earlier on Episode 2. Pressure is we know we.
59:40
Know if the pressure is. So on a word about this little
59:43
girl, she's the most adorable little girl.
59:44
She's the sweetest. Where is this little girl?
59:46
That's what I did to eat up was like.
59:48
She plays too gentle. Girl.
59:51
But is she somewhere now to this day?
59:53
Because she should be. Yeah, she is.
59:55
I knew it. I was like, I know she's been.
59:58
She's still been moving. So she was in Hello Me last.
1:00:02
That's where we saw her last. But she was such a good actress.
1:00:06
Oh, my gosh. But they wrote her lines,
1:00:08
though, did they not? Oh.
1:00:10
Yes, they did. They gave her some strong heavy.
1:00:12
I was like, she was like a preacher at at some point I was
1:00:16
like, this little girl is on a in a pulpit.
1:00:18
Like I mean, the they gave her some really big lines.
1:00:21
Like there's this one moment where she's like her mom praying
1:00:24
for like the safety of, you know, Tyson and his return in
1:00:27
two weeks so that she can, you know, he can be as to her donor.
1:00:31
And she's like, mom, why are you still like, why please like
1:00:34
don't keep doing that. Why are you keep praying so
1:00:36
much? And she's like, if you keep
1:00:38
doing that, God's going to get upset because he's going to
1:00:40
believe that you're not trusting him, you're not believing in
1:00:42
him. And you keep praying.
1:00:44
God's going to think you already gave, you already prayed for
1:00:46
this and he gave me the donor. So why are you still?
1:00:48
I was just like. And where do you leave the whole
1:00:51
story that she made-up of the sun and the moon and the
1:00:54
mountain? Because I think his name.
1:00:56
Means mountain, they said. What kind of a mountain?
1:01:00
Sun I think. Is mountain.
1:01:03
But Tay, she said something it was like, hi mountain or some
1:01:05
kind of mountain. Yeah.
1:01:07
And so she's like drawing the picture of the mountain and
1:01:10
she's like, do you know what a mountain, the rain that's
1:01:12
pouring down on a mountain, it can break it down and wear it
1:01:15
down over time. And this is, you know, where an
1:01:18
episode probably 8 at this point where he's completely tortured.
1:01:21
He's being tortured every step. So her talking about the
1:01:24
mountain being rained on, you're like, Oh my gosh.
1:01:26
She's talking about her father, Tayson.
1:01:28
It was so heavy. She, I mean the writing, was
1:01:32
happy for her. And then her mom was the son.
1:01:35
And then the fiance cop song was the moon.
1:01:39
Moon. Which I thought was I was like,
1:01:41
are they foreshadowing the whole end of the the show because the
1:01:45
sun and the moon, they can't be together?
1:01:48
They can't be. Together, you know what?
1:01:50
I'm saying they can't, yeah. And.
1:01:53
How did you like them? How did you like that structure
1:01:57
of like her having this fiance, him being this father figure
1:02:01
already for her daughter? So that was a lot.
1:02:03
That was very complex. It was.
1:02:06
That was super nice, complex. I love the whole thing.
1:02:09
I love to see it play out personally.
1:02:14
Here's my 2 steps is that I'm torn too.
1:02:18
I'm torn because I know for a fact that there are wonderful
1:02:22
step dads out there who love basically somebody else's child
1:02:26
that they don't have a blood relation to, but they are
1:02:28
wonderful fathers, wonderful providers, wonderful protectors
1:02:30
and all the rest. This guy I think what was the
1:02:36
red flag for me or a yellow flag because it wasn't an overt red
1:02:39
flag was him describing how he proposed to the mother because
1:02:44
he goes. I base first of all, they were
1:02:46
in a relationship for years, years.
1:02:47
I don't know if it was casual dating.
1:02:50
They don't really say. They don't really say if it was
1:02:52
like a serious relationship or just like he's been around, he's
1:02:56
around her. I took, I felt it more of like
1:02:59
he was just around. I think so too.
1:03:01
And he was helping support her during this really hard time of
1:03:05
being a single mom. Yeah.
1:03:06
And I yeah, So I was. That's what I thought and it was
1:03:10
not a relationship of equals exactly how I pictured it.
1:03:13
Like she really needed this guy in her life and so she leaned on
1:03:17
him and it almost felt like he was the guy that was friend
1:03:21
zoned for a long time. It kind of had that vibe to it.
1:03:24
It did. It totally did.
1:03:26
And when he finally proposed, what he said was that she looked
1:03:31
at him for a long. Time.
1:03:34
And then finally nodded her head.
1:03:36
Yes, yes, it was a very reluctant yes, it was a.
1:03:40
Reluctant. Yes.
1:03:41
Yes, which makes sense. I mean, she he had showed up in
1:03:44
her life during a very vulnerable season.
1:03:48
So it made sense to, I think us watching it when like, OK,
1:03:53
obviously he was a good guy. He was like the story of like,
1:03:56
oh, he's a good guy. Yeah, he's helping her out.
1:03:59
But that doesn't mean she's in love with this man.
1:04:01
Exactly. It does not mean that at all.
1:04:03
You don't have to be in love with the good guy, right?
1:04:05
He's just a good guy. He's just, I think she said yes
1:04:08
because he was a good guy. Because he was a good guy.
1:04:11
And, and she says at the very end of the show, she's like, I
1:04:14
have a knack for seeing people. She does, yeah.
1:04:17
So she, she's got a good taste in and then basically.
1:04:21
I know what I like, I know what I see, what I got.
1:04:24
And she's not wrong. The guy is a good guy.
1:04:26
He is a good guy. He ain't the one.
1:04:29
He's just like, she's not in love with this, she's not in
1:04:30
love with you, you're just not in love with.
1:04:32
Him and he was head over heels in love with this little girl,
1:04:35
loved her to death wanted to be her dad, was doing everything
1:04:39
possible to kind of like ingratiate himself with her and
1:04:42
get her to like him. And I thought what was cool was
1:04:44
that the little girl was like, I don't like you because you are
1:04:47
good to my mom. I like.
1:04:49
Your good to me. I, I mean, she was like I said,
1:04:52
she was on another level. She was astute.
1:04:55
She was a wise, wise one. Let's just say that.
1:04:58
But I think I love that too. I think that the little girl was
1:05:01
so she was just such a had such a big heart and I was like,
1:05:06
where did she get that little heart from?
1:05:07
You know, I was like, she was such a sweetheart and who
1:05:10
wouldn't fall in love with that little girl?
1:05:11
Like I would want to be her father too, like she was.
1:05:14
Because when he goes to the hospital in episode 1 and sees
1:05:17
her and she says, I thought she calls him dad immediately.
1:05:21
Taysong. This is Taysong.
1:05:22
She calls Taysong dad immediately.
1:05:24
And we're like, wait, why did how did she know?
1:05:26
No, that's her dad? Because she's been told he's he
1:05:28
died. Yeah.
1:05:30
But we find out that she had had saved a little photo that her
1:05:35
mom had ripped to shred. She got taped back together a
1:05:38
picture of her mom and Taysong. And she always knew that was her
1:05:42
father because of that picture. And so when she sees him in the
1:05:45
hospital and she calls out to him like, that's my dad.
1:05:48
Oh my God, with her fake smile and he's totally shocked.
1:05:52
Like what did she just call me her dad?
1:05:54
Like he literally like did she just call me?
1:05:55
Did. She do that to everybody.
1:05:56
Yes, that's what she said, what he said.
1:06:00
But she immediately worms her. Embrace him.
1:06:04
Embraced. Him into his heart and embraces
1:06:07
him and is so happy that he's there.
1:06:10
And doesn't even recognize that he's her donor necessarily.
1:06:13
When she embraces him, she's embracing him because she's
1:06:15
doing like, that's my bad guy. And he showed up and he knows
1:06:18
I'm sick. You know, he must have showed up
1:06:19
because I'm sick. Yeah.
1:06:20
Like, she took it in as like, oh, he's showing up because this
1:06:23
is important time for me as opposed to it being like, oh,
1:06:26
and this man is giving me, you know, supposed to be my donor.
1:06:29
She doesn't even know that yet when she's so welcoming.
1:06:31
And even without you knowing all the circumstances that led to
1:06:36
him saying you should get an abortion and forcing her to get
1:06:39
an abortion, obviously she doesn't get it back in the days,
1:06:42
hey, you know from this reaction to him meeting her that he's
1:06:46
like, Oh my God, like he's a dad.
1:06:48
I wanted. I wanted to be.
1:06:49
This is day one of being a dad. I wanted to be her dad and
1:06:53
that's what they do throughout the drama, which I don't know
1:06:55
how you felt about it, but I like this.
1:06:57
I knew you were gonna say I was. I was hoping you like this.
1:07:00
But the idea that throughout him, like on being on the run,
1:07:04
he continues to have moments where he like dreams of
1:07:07
conversations of that he has with his.
1:07:09
You might say it's a hallucination, but I'm gonna be
1:07:11
kinder. Some of the first ones were
1:07:13
dreams. And then there was a point where
1:07:14
he started to stream. Just sees her.
1:07:15
He's just seeing her, Yeah. And he's talking to his little
1:07:19
daughter. And he's like, forming this
1:07:20
relationship with this version of her that he doesn't know his
1:07:23
head in his head. And you could love seeing how he
1:07:28
respects her already. He loves this little girl.
1:07:30
He he knows like I got to be. I guess like I will die for this
1:07:33
little. Girl, I will die for this little
1:07:35
girl, I don't care. And it's so sweet to watch that.
1:07:38
And I think that was really important that they gave us
1:07:40
those moments because we had meet a lot.
1:07:42
More too, because first of all, he didn't know that he had a
1:07:45
daughter for eight years and second of all, he's a friggin
1:07:48
orphan. He he never had a dad, never
1:07:52
grew up with a dad, his dad was absent, never knew who his dad
1:07:55
was and then his mother commit suicide.
1:07:58
On his birthday. On his fucking birth, yes.
1:08:02
Yes, it was heartbreaking. I was glad.
1:08:05
I'm glad you brought that up. I was going to say that was one
1:08:07
of the parts that really hit me as far as like, just
1:08:10
understanding his character better or the most was like,
1:08:13
when he mentions like, I didn't think that I would ever do this
1:08:16
to my own child where she would be fatherless and be looking and
1:08:20
hoping to have this relationship with the father that isn't
1:08:23
there. And he is like, I can't believe
1:08:25
I did that to her, you know? And then his little
1:08:28
hallucination of his daughter pops up.
1:08:29
But she was like, yeah, I, I didn't think that was going to
1:08:32
happen for me either, that I was going to be looking for you and
1:08:34
I was going to want to know you. But I guess I do, you know?
1:08:37
And that was just a moment of him being a confirmation of
1:08:40
like, you're doing the right thing.
1:08:42
You know, you fighting for her. You wanted to be there for her
1:08:46
at this point, no matter though, you weren't there for eight
1:08:48
years. It's OK.
1:08:49
Like, she still wants to be with you know, who you are.
1:08:53
And I I was glad he got that kind of confirmation from his
1:08:56
hallucinations. Yeah, So what happens is he's a
1:09:02
perfect donor for the little girl.
1:09:03
He's got two weeks to keep his head on straight and be stay
1:09:06
healthy. And what happens?
1:09:08
He gets framed for murder. He's ass down in blood clasping
1:09:14
a knife. He got framed so dirty from
1:09:16
basically everybody that he knows.
1:09:19
So bad so. Bad.
1:09:21
And this isn't his first rodeo. No taking the the fall for
1:09:25
someone. Because he's a fall guy, a
1:09:27
perpetual fall guy. He.
1:09:28
Is a fall guy. It's his third time being a fall
1:09:31
guy. And yeah, how do you get that
1:09:36
the third time? That's the thing and that's.
1:09:38
Too pure at heart. I know he's so such a pure.
1:09:41
Yes, he. Is and he, you see throughout
1:09:44
the show they show you more and more about like, what the hell
1:09:47
happened? And I think on the second
1:09:49
framing, he refused to kill somebody.
1:09:52
Yes, so he had to still take the fall, but.
1:09:54
So then he took the fall for something.
1:09:56
Else because he didn't do that. Yeah, He didn't do his job
1:09:59
basically as a gangster subordinate.
1:10:02
That's a pure soul, man. He can't even.
1:10:04
He's like, I can't bring myself to draw blood and.
1:10:06
He has trauma. Yeah, 'cause his mom, he
1:10:08
discovered his mom. Yeah, he discovered his mom
1:10:11
covered in blood, so he has a, a version to blood in general.
1:10:14
So the idea of him being a murderer just doesn't make sense
1:10:18
for, you know, the big story, the big plot.
1:10:20
It's like he would never murder someone.
1:10:22
But the person he's accused of murdering ends up being a
1:10:25
prosecutor informant. Nobody knows who it is.
1:10:30
Nobody knows she's doing this job for the female prosecutor,
1:10:33
Tae Kyung, And it turns into this huge stink, the stink that
1:10:37
is the rest of the show. The entire show.
1:10:39
The entire. Show what I thought was funny Oh
1:10:42
my God this was so funny to me was that this is the episode 2
1:10:46
where he's facing off and getting interrogated by the our
1:10:49
cops Hong Wu, the fiance yes he's like there's prints all
1:10:52
over the house it's all over her luggage the cups that are in the
1:10:57
house the whole 9 and he goes plus you've tested positive for
1:11:01
drugs and I'm like. Of course he has what?
1:11:03
The hell. Of course.
1:11:05
And he pulls his his back and there's like, Oh my gosh, he's
1:11:09
pinned like needle pricks in his arm and.
1:11:11
He's like and he's like, I didn't, I'm not got it.
1:11:15
Stop me. I didn't do it.
1:11:17
It's so great. That's gonna be a do moment
1:11:19
though. Yeah, isn't it?
1:11:19
When you put your fist up or you're shaking at the screen,
1:11:22
you're like, of course. And his reaction in the
1:11:25
precinct, I'm like, he looks like a crazy person.
1:11:27
He does. He did.
1:11:29
And it's totally on purpose. Yeah.
1:11:31
In in that case, I feel like that's totally on purpose and
1:11:33
not necessarily like a an over the top decision that they made
1:11:37
later on in the show. It it this man is at his end,
1:11:41
like his wits end. He's being framed.
1:11:43
He doesn't know what's going on. But I appreciate that it clicked
1:11:46
quickly with him that this is a redo of what has happened to him
1:11:50
in the past. I was frustrated with the idea
1:11:52
of like him having to figure it out.
1:11:54
He didn't have to figure it out. He was like, oh, I've done this.
1:11:57
This. This isn't my first rodeo with
1:11:59
being, you know, taking the fall for this guy.
1:12:01
I know this is who it is. And then that same, I think, I
1:12:05
don't say the same night, but it's like they're out to kill
1:12:08
him in jail at that point. Yeah, there's an attempt on him
1:12:10
to strangle him in the jail, in the precincts jail.
1:12:14
And again, they don't believe him because the guy, there's so
1:12:17
much gaslighting. Yes.
1:12:19
Oh, it's horrible. It's horrible.
1:12:20
I hate it. Oh, I hate gaslighting with a
1:12:23
passion. And it was such a I mean, he was
1:12:25
like, I am innocent. I don't know how else I can tell
1:12:28
you guy tries to strangle him in the night with a jaw string from
1:12:32
his pants and they are like, hey, you Tayson, come here,
1:12:38
you're in trouble. It's like I almost look at my
1:12:41
neck. He's like showing them the neck.
1:12:42
Like the guy tried to strangle me.
1:12:44
I was like, you go see that jaw string is not from Tayson.
1:12:47
It's from that man, you know. Why would he?
1:12:49
Just he tipped it. So they said he had tried to
1:12:51
kill himself. They were like you tried to you.
1:12:53
Tried to cut yourself. What?
1:12:54
What with a jaw string from someone else's pants?
1:12:58
What are you talking about? I thought it was so funny, but
1:13:04
this is the episode, if we're still in like Episode 2, we've
1:13:06
talked all over. But this scene that we're
1:13:08
talking. About episode 2 and this is when
1:13:11
we find out that the the cop, his dad is the police
1:13:16
commissioner. And I was like, Oh my God.
1:13:18
Connections. Connections all around.
1:13:19
Connections all around. I thought they would do more
1:13:21
with that. They really didn't.
1:13:23
They don't. They don't.
1:13:25
But I mean, he's a neppo baby, which I thought was strange that
1:13:28
a kid who grew up the son of a police officer.
1:13:32
Medical school. This was another thing that he
1:13:33
went to medical. Medical.
1:13:35
School dropped out of medical school and became a.
1:13:38
Why? Why they never explained that?
1:13:41
No, I was like, they never explained why he made that
1:13:43
decision. I thought that was going to be
1:13:45
some kind of big point. Willingly being a Napo baby.
1:13:48
Yeah, he did. And then also that I did, no, I
1:13:52
was going to say the same thing of like, why didn't they do more
1:13:54
with that? But I know that originally they
1:13:56
were using him being that Nepal baby, or at least Jake Young was
1:14:00
using that against him. She was like, oh, I can't trust
1:14:03
you because your father probably is connected to the two big wigs
1:14:07
that I'm trying to take down. So I do think that was where
1:14:10
they were using that. But then they easily break that
1:14:12
because he finds out like his father has no connection.
1:14:15
He's like, OK, you can trust me. My father has no connection.
1:14:18
Which he just said, Oh yeah, I talk with my dad.
1:14:20
We never seen him do that, but I checked with him and he's fine.
1:14:23
He doesn't have any connections to that Lady.
1:14:25
She just came and asked a favor of him and he was like OK fine,
1:14:27
but. What, What?
1:14:29
What? What?
1:14:30
Why would you? I mean, it was so simple.
1:14:31
I was like, OK, I guess that's resolved.
1:14:33
Yeah, move on to the next thing. Yeah.
1:14:35
So I kind of wanted more with that, but whatever they.
1:14:37
Interested and his father supported his his engagement yes
1:14:41
and he also they were like we're gonna your mother and I are
1:14:44
gonna visit gonna visit our little the little girl like I
1:14:47
was like wait so his parents are supportive of this I thought
1:14:50
well they. Could be.
1:14:51
I think what happened was initially his the police
1:14:53
commissioner and the wife, his mother were not supportive,
1:14:57
supportive. But then when he said I'm
1:14:59
married. Detective.
1:15:00
And maybe that's what he decided to be the detective.
1:15:03
No, he was already a detective. He was already.
1:15:05
A detective even when he met someone that he was already a
1:15:08
detective. But I think after the the nil in
1:15:13
the coffin of them bitching about this single mom with an
1:15:17
absent father or dead father or husband and a child already was
1:15:23
when he proposed to her and he said we're getting married.
1:15:26
And get over it. Get over it.
1:15:27
Get over. It OK, fine.
1:15:28
We won't bring it up again. Yeah, I was surprised by that.
1:15:31
I was surprised by that. I thought that was going to be a
1:15:33
sticking point. Which I think they could have
1:15:35
made it a big they. Could have.
1:15:36
They could have, but they didn't.
1:15:37
They had a lot else going on. I guess we got we got to let
1:15:40
some of this stuff go, guys, We can't play everything in here.
1:15:43
Yeah. Oh, but Speaking of, and you
1:15:45
mentioned the way that they met because she was basically they
1:15:48
met in Pusan and she was a living statue of a bronze
1:15:53
mermaid in Pusan. And it kind of looked like movie
1:15:57
promo to me. Yes, it was like a, like a
1:15:59
tourist little performance because there was like other
1:16:01
things going on. There was a.
1:16:03
Sign in front of her that she was holding about like
1:16:05
Ghostfusan. It was something.
1:16:07
It was. Something and.
1:16:08
Then there was other performances going on around
1:16:10
her, right? So it was weird, yeah.
1:16:12
I know. And then he just goes up and
1:16:15
fondles her breasts. Yeah, he grabs her, wraps her.
1:16:19
Yeah. And we're can't.
1:16:20
And they and we were like, does he know?
1:16:22
And she also questions, did you know I was a real person or did
1:16:26
you really think I was a statue? And he tells her like, no, I
1:16:28
didn't know you were a real statue.
1:16:30
No, what he says is, would I have done it if I knew you were
1:16:33
a real statue? If I knew you were a real.
1:16:36
Person. A real person, yeah.
1:16:38
And she goes, oh, so that means I was doing such a good.
1:16:41
Job. That he thought I was a real
1:16:42
statue, a bronze statue. But then.
1:16:44
She forgives him. Two things, I think he said that
1:16:48
just to get out of the situation.
1:16:50
Exactly. Like he told her like what I
1:16:52
have done just to make her get off his ass over.
1:16:55
Because he slaps, she does slap him two times.
1:16:57
That was good. That was good.
1:16:59
I was hoping she did something but.
1:17:00
I think he was just doing that just to like shut her up.
1:17:04
Yeah cuz the whole point cuz I was like the real he knew she
1:17:06
was real cuz that's why he went to her because he wanted her to
1:17:09
get down. He wanted cuz the whole reason
1:17:10
why his. Friend, I'm gonna make her move.
1:17:12
Make her move, Yeah. And she still doesn't move.
1:17:14
And she still doesn't move. She's like the plan doesn't
1:17:16
work. It doesn't work his.
1:17:17
Stupid plan doesn't work anyway to get her to move?
1:17:20
And I was like, how dare you? So #1 he lies.
1:17:22
Vividly. Yeah, he does.
1:17:24
And #2 I think she knows that he's lying and is trying to
1:17:29
cover for him as well in front of like her friends or whatever.
1:17:32
Because she made a bet. She had made a bet that yes,
1:17:34
yeah, with the girls behind her. So she was like, oh, I told you
1:17:38
he thought I wasn't real. Right, just so that she can win
1:17:41
this bet that she made with the girls.
1:17:42
Yes, yes, yeah, you're right, you're right.
1:17:45
They're. Lying.
1:17:45
They're on the same page. They're both lying.
1:17:47
Yeah, they're lying. Is buying air quotes his lie For
1:17:52
sure. That was episode 2, right?
1:17:56
They get that was revealed that yeah, they revealed that pretty
1:17:58
early on their meeting. Oh, this quick question, did you
1:18:02
buy? And I guess we see it over time,
1:18:05
of course, with more flashbacks. But were you buying their
1:18:08
relationship? Yeah, totally you did.
1:18:11
Because so we're talking about Tehsan and Toynhei, the mother
1:18:15
of the child. I totally believe this
1:18:17
relationship because who is going to?
1:18:21
The shrimp. No, no, no, no, that was.
1:18:24
What did you get think about this shrimp that's really made
1:18:27
me so annoyed. I was like, are you kidding?
1:18:29
Me okay, so two things. One, the second thing is a
1:18:32
shrimp thing, so don't know, but the first thing is he's a bad
1:18:35
boy. He is.
1:18:37
He's a mysterious, quiet bad boy who driving a motorcycle.
1:18:43
Motorcycle and he's just a little bit of a sweetheart.
1:18:45
And he's kind of a sweetheart. Yeah, sweetheart.
1:18:47
Yeah. Yeah, he takes her to school
1:18:49
when she's. Running.
1:18:50
She's running late. She needed a ride.
1:18:52
Yeah. Does it she?
1:18:53
Spotted him on a delivery right outside her little dance studio
1:18:56
where she works part time and she's like, so he drives there
1:19:00
all the time, frequently, and she she stops him on the street.
1:19:04
When she misses a taxi, she gets shoved to the ground.
1:19:08
Another ajma takes the taxi and she's like, I got to get to
1:19:11
school for I think it was an. Audition.
1:19:13
Yeah, because she's getting trying to go abroad.
1:19:15
Trying. To study abroad.
1:19:16
Yeah. And he takes her.
1:19:18
And what I thought was like, such a green flag was before
1:19:21
they take off. She's already running late and
1:19:23
he's going to take her anyway. He gives her a helmet.
1:19:27
He does. He takes out a helmet from like
1:19:29
the side compartment and gives her a helmet.
1:19:31
And I was like, yes. Yes, I love that scene because I
1:19:35
also loved her moment there when she was holding on to him and
1:19:37
she was like I felt his heart and it's like a physical moment
1:19:40
moment because he's like true. His heart was racing because he
1:19:44
had a crush on her. Obviously from they had building
1:19:47
this little. I think this little back and
1:19:48
forth but then. So they almost get in a crash.
1:19:50
Crash and then she. And he holds on to.
1:19:53
Her yes, so I feel like he's his heart is racing and she feels
1:19:56
that, but then it's also like this realization and like the
1:19:59
current time of like he has a heart like he's a good guy.
1:20:03
So it's like this tie between this physical moment of him,
1:20:05
like his heart racing because he almost gets in a crash, but he's
1:20:08
but he's protecting her, protecting her.
1:20:10
He protected her from jump because he gave her a helmet.
1:20:13
So it's just like, it's a very sweet.
1:20:14
Compounding. Very sweet.
1:20:16
So sweet he doesn't ask for the helmet back.
1:20:18
She has to find him again to give it to him.
1:20:20
She's. Like why didn't she?
1:20:21
She's like, why didn't you come after me for the helmet?
1:20:23
He was like, oh, I forgot. Like he's just like, he's so
1:20:26
shy. It's really cute.
1:20:29
It's actually really cute. And then the shrimp thing.
1:20:31
Shrimp happens, yeah. Because he's got a shellfish
1:20:34
allergy. And she bites him out.
1:20:37
She invites a ride because of that ride that he gave.
1:20:40
Her right So she's like, oh let me thank you, I'll take you out
1:20:42
to dinner and she orders this. Tray of shrimp.
1:20:45
Just tray of shrimp, nothing else.
1:20:47
There's. No bunch on.
1:20:49
I was like, there's no, I was like, it's just shrimp, just
1:20:52
shrimp. I was like, girl, where's the
1:20:54
rest? It's just shrimp.
1:20:56
But anyway, but they're in Busan, so it's a sea size town.
1:20:59
I kind of understand whatever. So he starts shoveling shrimp
1:21:04
into his gullet. Just shoveling, and there's no
1:21:07
reason for it because he's got an allergy.
1:21:09
He doesn't tell her that he has an allergy until he starts
1:21:12
having a reaction. Still doesn't tell her.
1:21:14
Still doesn't tell her. What he does is he just gets up
1:21:17
and he's like, I got to go and he leaves.
1:21:20
Leaves her sitting there, she's like, that was weird, yeah.
1:21:22
And then the next day she's looking for him and his friend
1:21:26
that he works with at the little liquor, the little liquor
1:21:28
delivery place is like, Oh yeah, he's sick at home because he he.
1:21:33
I don't know what. I've done.
1:21:34
He ate. Shrimp.
1:21:35
Shrimp. He has a shellfish allergy.
1:21:37
Why would he do that? And then she's like, what?
1:21:40
He has a shellfish allergy. She goes, finds him at his home
1:21:43
and he's like sick in bed, and she comes in guns blazing
1:21:47
yelling at him. Why wouldn't you tell me that's
1:21:50
you have shellfish? And it's such a sweet moment
1:21:52
because while she's yelling at him and he's like huffing and
1:21:55
puffing at her because she's yelling at him.
1:21:57
But then she's like, here, take this, take this porridge,
1:22:01
porridge. And it's like a sweet one would
1:22:03
have heard me like I'm here to take care of you because you did
1:22:07
something that you shouldn't have done.
1:22:08
So I totally believed their love story.
1:22:11
I did too. And then, and they're young too.
1:22:14
They're like. They're so young.
1:22:15
That's why I also think I like that they highlighted that she
1:22:18
was a young mom. Yeah, as well.
1:22:20
Like she wasn't. This wasn't a plan.
1:22:22
Like her having a baby. This.
1:22:24
So what is what is it? He's 32 now, like in the 2013
1:22:29
and then this was eight years. Ago so they were no.
1:22:32
Longer because the child is 8. So it was before the child.
1:22:36
Before the child, yeah. So yeah. 10 years, like maybe I
1:22:39
wouldn't say 10 years, probably like 9 years.
1:22:42
Yeah, 9. Almost a decade, basically a
1:22:44
decade. So young 2122 and then I think
1:22:48
she's younger than him, still in school.
1:22:51
Not high school, but in college. They were young.
1:22:54
So they were young. Yeah, she had the baby.
1:22:57
It also makes that whole relationship with the detective
1:23:00
also kind of like he's obviously older, yes, than her, way older
1:23:05
than her. So that also is that kind of
1:23:07
imbalance that we were talking about.
1:23:08
This is a young, young prosecutor.
1:23:12
Yeah. What I found funny in episode 3,
1:23:15
he's on the run on a motorcycle driving one hand and he's still
1:23:18
handcuffed, which I was like, I don't know if this is sexy or
1:23:21
I'm worried. About what's happening, I was so
1:23:23
worried, but I also was like, give it to him doing his own
1:23:26
stunts. And Oh my God, stop.
1:23:28
You think that he was actually doing that?
1:23:33
I. Driving around one hand.
1:23:34
Over junky. Yeah, I do.
1:23:37
Oh. My God.
1:23:40
And it was a giving stunt. It was giving.
1:23:41
It was a stunt moment. We got a this shows full of
1:23:44
stunts. Full of stunts every episode.
1:23:48
But anyway, so he starts to clock that there's CCTV cameras
1:23:51
everywhere and they show a scene from The Haunted with Tommy Lee
1:23:57
Jones. Like you're thinking back to the
1:24:00
scene in this movie. For those who don't know, The
1:24:02
Haunted Tommy Lee Jones plays a tracker slash trainer hunting a
1:24:06
rogue operative, Benicio De Toro.
1:24:10
Del Toro. What about?
1:24:12
Oh my gosh, when I tell you I love Benicio del Toro?
1:24:15
Oh my. So that when they pulled up that
1:24:18
scene I was like, oh wait, they don't do this in K dramas
1:24:21
anywhere. They just don't.
1:24:22
They don't. They don't.
1:24:23
And they did this throughout. There's other.
1:24:25
Ones I love that here they did tie it back to his characters.
1:24:28
No, because he loves. Movies, yeah.
1:24:30
And so a lot of his movie like a lot of his like stunts that he's
1:24:33
pulling throughout the chase, the run, being on the run.
1:24:36
He's like pulling from references on movies that he's
1:24:38
watched and loved. And I, I really like that.
1:24:41
I do. I thought that was like that.
1:24:42
No character plot. Yeah.
1:24:43
I was like, that's a character notes there.
1:24:45
There's no character notes. I liked it, the little little.
1:24:48
Movie. I really enjoyed it every time.
1:24:49
One time I was like, Oh my God, what are they doing?
1:24:52
So yeah, in episode 4, he ends up in the countryside and he
1:24:56
helps this old lady catch her chicken lunch.
1:25:01
She's trying to buy her chicken. She's.
1:25:02
Trying to chase this chicken. He's seen her chasing this
1:25:04
chicken for like an hour. He can't get out of where he's
1:25:07
hiding on her property. And I thought this was really
1:25:10
cute but also like really random.
1:25:14
The first few episodes. It is extremely random what he
1:25:18
gets into as he's on the run and then the chase up the mountain.
1:25:23
The assassin sets off fucking explosives.
1:25:27
For him. In the mountain to distract the
1:25:29
police. And that makes him think that he
1:25:31
has someone working with him. Right, right.
1:25:33
Against him because it's this is an assassin trying to kill him,
1:25:36
not work with him. He takes a bus.
1:25:39
This whole thing, it's. Incredible, he changes.
1:25:42
Outfits and pretends like he's someone a volunteer for the
1:25:46
police that's scouring the mountain for him and he takes a
1:25:49
bus to a neighboring town and takes a mother and daughter as
1:25:53
hostages. The mom is mute and he's kind of
1:25:57
to install like a motion light or something for them.
1:26:01
Yeah, they're trying to install some security, some kind of
1:26:03
security feature and they're. Outside that they were having
1:26:06
trouble doing because there's no man in the house.
1:26:09
It's like man's. Work.
1:26:09
Yeah, Yep. And he does it for them and they
1:26:12
don't report him right away. When he finally leaves.
1:26:14
And I was just like, Oh my God, it reminds me of something and I
1:26:18
can't think of it. What?
1:26:20
What? I feel like I've seen this
1:26:21
before. You have.
1:26:23
You definitely have. And I'm and I actually really
1:26:26
watching it back, I was like, Oh yeah, I forgot about these
1:26:29
moments, like these moments on these little.
1:26:31
Vignettes. Vignettes that he had to like
1:26:33
the explanations of how he's able to stay on the run so long
1:26:37
is these moments of like, you know, little randoms running
1:26:41
into people's homes kind of thing.
1:26:43
But then also it was supposed to be there, of course, to kind of
1:26:45
showcase the type of character he really was.
1:26:48
Because again, like you mentioned earlier, this drama
1:26:50
relies on the media, like traditional media, like there's
1:26:54
news reports all the time tracking, Hey, we lost him.
1:26:58
Hey, you know, the the the fugitive Tayson's on the run and
1:27:01
he's the police got he got away. See this man, if you see this
1:27:05
man. So it's like that is being
1:27:07
showcased throughout the entire drama.
1:27:09
And So what ends up happening towards the end, of course, is
1:27:12
that all these little moments that he has with these random
1:27:14
strangers are highlights that come up at the end the show,
1:27:18
like, hey, or vouch for him, Like, hey, this guy who's a
1:27:20
fugitive, who's supposedly A murderer, He did all these great
1:27:23
things for me. He delivers a baby.
1:27:25
You know, he does all these lovely things, like, what do you
1:27:28
mean he's a murderer? So I did like that, you know,
1:27:31
they were able to use that. We're going to.
1:27:33
Have to talk about that later. I don't.
1:27:34
Everybody used those moments at the end, they had to kind of
1:27:37
vouch for who he really was as a person and not some cold hearted
1:27:42
killer. He changes his hair and he
1:27:45
thinks of the movie The Long Kiss Goodnight with Geena Davis.
1:27:51
In the mirror. In the mirror.
1:27:52
Did you see the mirror? I was like, this is hilarious.
1:27:55
Oh. My God, he's like I'm in a
1:27:56
movie. Here's 1 scene that I thought
1:27:58
was really good. And they don't end up like
1:28:00
getting this smart later on, I guess, Is that in Episode 4, the
1:28:04
prosecutor calls the congresswoman, Congresswoman
1:28:08
Joe, who's like the other big bad of the show, her assistant
1:28:11
comes in and he's like, hey, you have this prosecutor on the
1:28:14
phone right now. And she's in the middle of an
1:28:16
interview with a reporter. And she's like, well, take a
1:28:19
message because I'm busy right now.
1:28:21
And then the reporter gets a call on his phone literally
1:28:24
seconds later. And it's the prosecutor saying,
1:28:26
hand the phone over to the congresswoman.
1:28:28
And I was like, oh, my God, this lady has balls.
1:28:30
This lady has balls. And I thought it was so smart
1:28:32
and surprising, but they don't really.
1:28:35
They don't use that throughout. Yeah, yeah, I completely agree.
1:28:40
But why do you think that is? Like why do you think they did?
1:28:42
Because they just started getting more head on with their
1:28:45
approach, their tactics weren't as sneaky and.
1:28:49
So it just got bold. It just got bold.
1:28:51
Right. It just got bold.
1:28:53
The prosecutor at some point ends up in front.
1:28:56
Like she literally rings a doorbell and goes to the
1:28:59
congresswoman's house. Absolutely.
1:29:01
She's she's like, I don't care. Anymore and for what?
1:29:03
Like for what? To do what?
1:29:05
Just to say I'm going to get you.
1:29:06
That's what I'm saying. It's very.
1:29:08
Scooby-doo. In that way.
1:29:11
And I do feel like that was one of my issues with the Jake Young
1:29:14
character in general. I feel like she was all talk at
1:29:18
some point. So it was like, you're not,
1:29:19
you're not pulling up any results, my love.
1:29:21
Like you, you're on the run. You're, you're, you're supposed
1:29:24
to be chasing these people for years.
1:29:27
Like she's been chasing these folks since she was a young
1:29:29
girl. Basically the reason why she
1:29:31
became a prosecutor was to bring down these two people.
1:29:34
And it's like you're, where's the results of all that chasing?
1:29:37
And I I don't. What do you mean friend?
1:29:39
You've been investigating for for years and all you got for
1:29:43
it. And it takes this man on the run
1:29:46
to actually kind of start to bring you some kind of like
1:29:49
getting you close to some kind of resolution with these these
1:29:52
folks. I don't know.
1:29:52
I just felt like she was all talk a lot of times.
1:29:54
So like you said, there were moments where she was just
1:29:56
showing up and she's like, give me the phone.
1:29:57
Let. Me.
1:29:58
Talk to the face. But then it was like you're not
1:30:00
doing anything. How is this helping?
1:30:03
You're showing your. Hand me.
1:30:04
You're showing your hand. Yeah.
1:30:05
Oh my gosh. She showed her hand so many
1:30:07
times all throughout that. Same for the cops, same for song
1:30:10
with the fiance guy. Like why are you being stupid?
1:30:13
You know what? I was going to say that I was
1:30:15
going to say this and I think I wanted, I don't know where I put
1:30:17
it in my notes, but I was like, at some point I was like,
1:30:21
they're just not that good at their jobs.
1:30:24
Exactly. Incompetent.
1:30:25
They're incompetent. And prosecutors like I was like
1:30:28
they aren't just that you. It's taking you relying on this
1:30:31
fugitive to be the thing that kind of brings you how you're
1:30:36
going to end up catching people. I don't.
1:30:37
I don't think that makes sense. If you were good at your job,
1:30:39
you could have gotten. Here, the fugitive is the
1:30:41
linchpin. Like you're not a good
1:30:43
investigator. You're not.
1:30:45
Yeah. So I was like, they're not good.
1:30:47
And I think that was getting frustrating for me as well.
1:30:50
I was like, this is not. This is kind of frustrating.
1:30:52
Because you guys suck. And maybe that's I've heard a
1:30:54
lot of Korean true crime episodes shout out Mimi Musiko
1:30:58
and 99% of the time the cops botched the investigation.
1:31:02
They botch it. They're not very, and this is
1:31:04
true. Crime, mind you.
1:31:05
So this is real stuff. So I'm like, oh, maybe.
1:31:08
It's just a thing. Yeah, maybe, maybe.
1:31:11
I feel like they also don't put if you think about how they're
1:31:14
portray, how they always portray cops in K dramas, it's like they
1:31:19
barely carry guns and when they do it's like you know they
1:31:21
barely carry guns. The first they're like, isn't
1:31:24
it? They always a table is a blank.
1:31:26
Blank and then they have real. Bullets in the gun and I'm like.
1:31:29
So what? And then also like the fact that
1:31:31
they kind of always just sit like they're always in their
1:31:34
office. I mean, they're always at this
1:31:35
precinct. Like they're never really on the
1:31:37
ground. You know, they're always, they
1:31:38
do a lot of work just sitting around the computer.
1:31:41
I feel like I don't portray them in a very good light.
1:31:43
No, they I would say, I would say so I'm like, this was
1:31:46
another case of that. Like, you got your police scene.
1:31:49
I'm a little incompetent. You're goofy.
1:31:51
You're goofy. Yeah, you're goofy.
1:31:53
And you're too busy. You know, shirtless.
1:31:54
I have shirtless. Well, so the next episode,
1:31:58
episode 5, there is a straight up shower scene and it's not
1:32:02
with Edenge, it's with. Cops so move.
1:32:07
And. I just haven't my wishes all
1:32:09
beaded. All caps beefy.
1:32:11
Beefy beef, beef beef beef. Gotta love a good beefcake
1:32:17
because it was definitely a good beefcake moment.
1:32:19
So let's talk about this character for one second.
1:32:21
Is that he starts to think put the pieces together and say OK,
1:32:26
I think this guy is related to Solenhead.
1:32:30
Yes. And is he the mysterious donor?
1:32:34
Yes. Which the answer is yes.
1:32:37
So he makes connections early and then he starts to judge
1:32:41
sewing. Hey, so.
1:32:42
Hard. He does.
1:32:44
He's like, how could she have been with?
1:32:47
This with this person. Disgusting.
1:32:48
This type of person, yeah. Murderer.
1:32:51
How? Could.
1:32:53
She serial assault her person. Let's keep going on about what
1:32:57
you just mentioned as far as like him making that connection.
1:33:00
He he starts to say like basically she sucks because he
1:33:03
sucks, he sucks. But also that connection that he
1:33:06
makes early on about like, oh, she's related to him, she she's
1:33:09
the ex of blah blah. But he also it's like, oh, is
1:33:13
he's the donor and then meets up with his friend who is the
1:33:16
doctor. She's tell doesn't tell him
1:33:18
anything. And so he's like, OK, it must
1:33:20
not be him. And he immediately is like, oh,
1:33:22
yeah, that's not the donor. And he goes to more episodes, I
1:33:25
think, not knowing that's the donor, even though he makes the
1:33:29
other connection pretty easily. So I felt again, it's like
1:33:32
you're not doing your job as a detective.
1:33:34
Like, yeah, the doctor stop says it.
1:33:36
OK, you take it at face value and just move on.
1:33:39
I agree. I was like, he was so dude, I'm
1:33:42
like, get it together. Like why can't you make these
1:33:47
connections a lot quicker and move?
1:33:50
Because he relied on Jake Young to really tell him.
1:33:54
Like she's the one who ends up really kind of like he has like,
1:33:56
how did you know? Why didn't you tell me?
1:33:58
It's like, why didn't you know you made the connection that
1:34:01
they were connected before she did so you had the opportunity
1:34:05
to make that connection. I don't know that, just
1:34:07
incompetence all around. You mentioned he delivers a baby
1:34:13
while on the run. Let's talk about this.
1:34:16
This is when I was like, wow, it could only be a cave drama.
1:34:20
It could only be. He he's again in the mountains
1:34:23
he comes across. He's on the run, guys.
1:34:26
He comes. Across this fruit tree farm in
1:34:29
the pitch darkness, it's raining and it's night time and he's
1:34:32
like Oh my God, I found something to eat, 'cause he's
1:34:34
starving, he starts biting into some fruit and randomly there's
1:34:38
a pregnant lady in labor next to him.
1:34:41
Next to him, Yeah. I mean, where?
1:34:42
How she where did she go from? I have no idea.
1:34:45
How did she be there? Where was it?
1:34:46
How? Long was she there?
1:34:47
Yeah, there was no car. There was no like she fell out
1:34:49
of something like it was like she was.
1:34:51
Did she? Take a tumble like what
1:34:53
happened? Walking with with a basket of
1:34:55
with of apples. And then how do you not see her?
1:34:58
Yeah, it was weird and random. Yes, she's in the dark and he
1:35:01
thinks she's a ghost. Yeah, because it's just like her
1:35:03
swelling in the. Because.
1:35:05
What he sees is sewing. Hey.
1:35:08
Oh, I wailing because she's not gonna lieber.
1:35:10
I kind of like that. Which I kind of like that.
1:35:12
And that's why he's like, are you a ghost?
1:35:13
Because he's he doesn't know what he's saying.
1:35:15
He doesn't. Is he seeing his ex trying to
1:35:17
give birth next to him? Which again, the whole situation
1:35:20
is so strange. It's weird, guys.
1:35:22
We get it. It's no, it's weird.
1:35:23
But it it was this moment again to kind of vouch for his actual
1:35:27
real personality. He really was.
1:35:29
He is of helping this woman to her home.
1:35:32
Lady give birth in her home. The power is out because of the
1:35:35
storm that's going on. They evidently she has no cell
1:35:38
phone. No cell phone.
1:35:39
Rare time and they're in the countryside and he delivers a
1:35:42
baby boy. And he has a moment when she's,
1:35:46
when she's pushing, he sees flashes of in hay of kind of
1:35:49
what he imagines she went through and she was giving
1:35:52
birth. And so he has a kind of full
1:35:56
moment that he gets to experience childbirth through
1:35:59
this woman that he didn't get to experience with his own
1:36:02
daughter. So.
1:36:03
It's actually so sweet. It's the end of the day.
1:36:04
I was like you. Know he's holding the baby,
1:36:07
Yeah. And he's holding and he's
1:36:08
looking at that baby. He's like, it's a baby boy.
1:36:10
And he just looks so happy to hold that baby after it's
1:36:14
delivered. And I just thought it was the
1:36:15
sweetest thing ever. I'm not gonna lie.
1:36:17
It is he has this new appreciation and deep guilt over
1:36:21
how his little girl was brought into the world and how his ex
1:36:24
did it all alone. And it's just a glimpse into
1:36:27
what he's like. I've never.
1:36:29
Delivered a baby. I don't know what that is, Yeah.
1:36:32
And he just kind of like. Locks in, he does lock it and
1:36:34
then like even afterwards, and I love that again, for each of
1:36:38
these little vignette moments, he ends up cooking her seaweed
1:36:42
soup afterwards because he's like, I know that's what you're
1:36:43
supposed to do. And he feels bad about the fact
1:36:46
that he didn't get to do that for Inhe when she gave birth,
1:36:49
you know, I was like, so he's like does this for this woman.
1:36:52
He's like, she's a stand in for what he, you know, for Inhe,
1:36:55
what he didn't get to do for her.
1:36:56
And he has he gets to have that moment.
1:36:58
So it was actually really sweet. But he also is building these
1:37:01
people who could vouch for him now, because now this woman is
1:37:03
like on the news, like he delivered my baby.
1:37:06
Yeah, he, he made me seaweed soup.
1:37:08
He was the sweetest guy you know, so.
1:37:11
He not only made her seaweed soup, he hangs up the kung
1:37:14
chill. Oh yes, the kunjol, which I had
1:37:17
no clue what this was. I've been watching K dramas for
1:37:20
so long I'm still learning stuff.
1:37:22
This was so cute. It was beautiful to see him do.
1:37:25
In Korean tradition, hanging dried red Peppers, Chili Peppers
1:37:28
after birth is a central element of a custom known as kunjol, or
1:37:32
taboo rope. This practice is used to
1:37:35
announce the birth of a baby boy and protect him from evil
1:37:37
spirits. And he does that for the lady.
1:37:39
And I'm like, Oh my God. That's who he is.
1:37:41
Yeah, that's who he is. So I really like that at the end
1:37:45
of episode 5 he gets shot by the cop, the fiance.
1:37:48
But yeah, he shoots the man that he does not know at the time is
1:37:52
the donor, but he suspected. He suspected it, but he didn't
1:37:55
follow through because he's a bad detective, you know, So he
1:37:58
didn't even try. He didn't even try to make the
1:38:00
connection. But yeah, he literally shoots
1:38:03
this man. And what did we say?
1:38:05
What did we learn in class from the very first episodes?
1:38:08
That he has to remain clean and safe during the two weeks he is
1:38:14
a good doughnut and when he gets a whole gunshot wound on his
1:38:18
back. Yay.
1:38:20
Mind you the stress the other assassin, the Terminator guy, is
1:38:23
basically chasing him concurrently to the police.
1:38:27
I mean, just so frustrating. Yeah, so frustrating.
1:38:30
He has two people out for him at the same time.
1:38:33
This is when he falls into the water, goes on the raft, all
1:38:36
that. You know, this was that scene.
1:38:37
And then finds this man who's an ex gangster that he was told to
1:38:43
murder. And he all those years ago too,
1:38:45
he did not. Do And he did not do it.
1:38:47
So he left this guy alive. And the guy was basically like,
1:38:49
I saved you to ask you this question.
1:38:50
Why the hell did you leave me alive?
1:38:52
Leave me alive. I'm still reeling from the fact
1:38:55
that there's a connection here. Why is there a connection?
1:38:58
Right. But I did like that it was this
1:39:03
moment too, of him being like, I say, you saved my life back
1:39:06
then. This is me saving your life
1:39:08
because he ends up treating him for that gunshot wound.
1:39:10
And that is, of course, enabling.
1:39:13
Yeah, that saves him and enable him to keep moving and keep
1:39:15
going towards this next. You know, the, I don't know, we
1:39:17
were like day, we're on day 7 at this point.
1:39:19
I don't know. We're half.
1:39:20
We're moving through the weeks. We're moving through the two
1:39:22
weeks there. But it was just like, he has a
1:39:24
long time to go, so he needed that treatment.
1:39:27
And so it was this moment of like, this man saved me.
1:39:29
But yeah, this man comes back again.
1:39:32
He does, and he helps him later on.
1:39:33
Yes he does. He keeps the.
1:39:35
Father of the Terminator Assassin and.
1:39:39
Which I which I thought was interesting because I think in
1:39:41
the the big guy, the other the big bad guy, he tells says
1:39:46
that's his son, right? Like he pretends and.
1:39:48
Claims. The big bad gangster?
1:39:51
Yeah, he says. That's his son.
1:39:52
The assassin calls him Father. Yes.
1:39:56
And I have a note in here too saying what the hell is what
1:39:58
What? What?
1:39:59
Yeah, but I was like, in the beginning, I feel like he was
1:40:00
like treating him like that was his son.
1:40:03
Right. But then they were very cold
1:40:05
toward him. So.
1:40:06
Mean treating him like an employee.
1:40:08
So it was like, are that is that his son?
1:40:10
OK, I don't know. So then to have that connection
1:40:14
revealed at the end, like This is why he was out for him, you
1:40:16
know, and then to be using this man's son to do all this
1:40:19
horrible dirty work also made sense, you know, So it made more
1:40:23
sense that it wasn't his son, is what I'm trying to say.
1:40:26
It made more sense that it wasn't the big bad guy's son.
1:40:29
What I found really cute was at the end of episode 6, he's on
1:40:32
the phone with his ex Inhei, the mother of his child, and she has
1:40:37
been calling him like Tehsanshi, like a very more formal way of
1:40:41
saying him his name. And this is the first time in
1:40:44
this episode she says SU Jin Na. Papa.
1:40:47
Don't die. Which is he freaks.
1:40:50
Out SU Jin's dad don't die. And he's looking at her at this
1:40:55
time because she can see her, but she can't see him.
1:40:58
And he's on the phone with her. And when she says that to him,
1:41:00
he immediately starts to cry, holding the phone to him, but
1:41:05
he's trying not to, like, reveal himself.
1:41:07
And it was like, oh, he just wants to be that girl's dad now,
1:41:11
you know? And I really.
1:41:13
He wants to be a good dad. He wants to be a good dad.
1:41:14
And so you're, again, you're just like rooting for him.
1:41:16
You're like, come on, you got to make.
1:41:18
And you can tell she's already forgiven him and she.
1:41:20
Has she's like, it's over. This man is, is going to save my
1:41:24
baby's life. Like let's get him back, guys.
1:41:26
Let's let's bring him back in. Episode 7 I thought was good
1:41:30
because this is when it starts ushering into a different era of
1:41:33
the drama and TS on his face to face with this gangster Munil
1:41:37
Sulk who has literally thrown him under the bus time and time
1:41:41
again framed him for basically this is the third time he's
1:41:44
framed. Third time.
1:41:45
Third time. And they broke him out of police
1:41:48
custody, mind you, in this episode in like a past five type
1:41:51
of deal where like, there's a dump truck that opens up the
1:41:54
side. Yeah, multiple cars that are
1:41:57
crashing in. There's tear gas involved, guns.
1:42:01
It's this whole freaking thing. I'm like, oh, my God.
1:42:04
So they bust him out and they're in an old lumber factory, and
1:42:07
he's face to face with the head gangster again.
1:42:09
Yeah. He says, why are you doing this
1:42:10
to me? Because at this point, he has
1:42:12
not been fighting back. He's just been evading capture.
1:42:15
Which has been good. The gangster, it gives this
1:42:19
crazy answer where he's just like, yeah, you're a fall guy,
1:42:22
you understand, you've done it twice already and you didn't put
1:42:25
up a fight either time. So why wouldn't I do it?
1:42:27
Why wouldn't I use you again? Why wouldn't I use you again?
1:42:29
And if I were you, I would have killed me by now.
1:42:32
You're soft, you have no background, you've and then
1:42:35
you've been living this slummy life.
1:42:37
So you're easy target. So you're an easy target.
1:42:39
You have nothing to live for anyway.
1:42:41
Why wouldn't I do this? And it lights a fire under
1:42:44
Tayson's ass and he gets out of she starts playing the game
1:42:47
finally. Finally, that's when we get that
1:42:50
twist. And I think it was a long time
1:42:52
coming because it's true. And he also now obviously has a
1:42:55
more reasons to live, you know, more than to die.
1:42:58
Purpose. Yeah, yeah, more reason than to
1:43:00
die. But he has a purpose now, you
1:43:02
know, before for his, for this man to call it out like you had
1:43:04
no reason. You were, you were.
1:43:06
You're slum. You're a loser.
1:43:08
You're a loser. You have nothing to live for.
1:43:09
Like, of course you're easy target, but he's like, no, I'm
1:43:12
not now I'm not. I have a whole daughter.
1:43:14
I got to I got to say like, who are you kidding me?
1:43:17
So we were like, finally he's locking in full force and he
1:43:21
starts to play the game as in I can't just keep running and
1:43:24
hiding for the rest of these two weeks.
1:43:26
They're too close. They're on my heels.
1:43:28
I'm literally getting captured by them at this point, getting
1:43:31
shot at multiple times. Now I have to try to get back at
1:43:34
them and try to get them before they get me, so that's where
1:43:37
that switches. He so he starts bluffing and in
1:43:40
the one of the first scenes that we see him in in episode 1, he's
1:43:43
playing poker and he's bluffing his ass off and they're like,
1:43:46
what did you have? Cuz he's end up folding this
1:43:48
good hand and he's he's like, Oh no, whatever.
1:43:51
And he's look at his hand and they're like, you were bluffing
1:43:53
the whole. Time.
1:43:54
So you know, he can lie. He can lie.
1:43:57
He's good. I mean, he lied to her when we
1:43:58
said when they first met and made her believe that.
1:44:01
Well, she believed. Didn't believe.
1:44:04
Yeah, yeah, He's good at. He's good at the game.
1:44:07
Yeah, he's good at the game. But he starts using his poker
1:44:10
skills and he escapes and he rescues the prosecutor, who was
1:44:14
also like, at death's door. They were going to shoot her
1:44:15
ass. And he was like lying through
1:44:18
his teeth trying to get her out. And he busts her out, steal the
1:44:21
car, the whole thing. This this episode also has he
1:44:25
thinks of a scene in the movie Breakdown with Kurt Russell,
1:44:31
where Kurt Russell plays a regular guy whose wife gets
1:44:34
kidnapped after an an encounter with a trucker.
1:44:37
And he basically hides underneath an 18 Wheeler truck.
1:44:41
And that's the moment that he remembers.
1:44:43
And he's like, oh, I can do that.
1:44:45
And. I thought that was so funny how
1:44:46
he's like thinking of these moments from these movies that
1:44:49
he wants to like try out. But then it also is like, Oh, I
1:44:52
can't physically do that because I got shot in my shoulder.
1:44:54
So they get let me just move on to another scene in my head.
1:44:57
But I think that was also the drama, of course, trying to
1:45:00
explain away why he's he's actually so good, good at what
1:45:05
he's doing of being on the run. They had to explain it somehow
1:45:08
because you're like, this guy is all of a sudden like kicking
1:45:10
tail. He's like, you know, like you
1:45:12
say, parkouring across the buildings, like where is he
1:45:15
getting all this from? And it's like, oh, movies, of
1:45:18
course you got to. Forget an active imagination and
1:45:22
he's fit. One thing that I thought was,
1:45:25
oh, this would probably not happen today or would happen
1:45:27
differently is at the end of episode 8, Congresswoman Toe
1:45:32
brings highway CCTV footage of the prosecutor in the car with
1:45:36
PS on to like incriminate the prosecutor because why is she in
1:45:40
the car with with the fugitive, but the footage is edited.
1:45:46
Yes, it's doctored. And I was like, oh, this would
1:45:50
be a whole thing today. Like we haven't encountered this
1:45:52
yet, but this would be today. An AI.
1:45:56
AIA footage, but deepfakes. Deepfakes.
1:45:59
Yes, all that stuff. Would be if they redid this.
1:46:02
Today, they haven't done that yet.
1:46:04
Really, they haven't. And I'm like, they're good, but
1:46:06
it's and no, it's. Not going to happen.
1:46:08
It's going to have to. Every soon that this is going to
1:46:10
end up in the plots. It has the stories, yeah.
1:46:13
Because even that was, for me, shocking.
1:46:15
I was like, oh, they know how to doctor CC, right?
1:46:17
It's like removed the the she had a tape across.
1:46:21
From her mouth and removed that so it looked like she was having
1:46:24
a normal conversation with the fugitive in the car.
1:46:26
But I was not. That was so I was like oh this
1:46:29
seems like advance for. But it seems advanced.
1:46:33
Exactly. I like that word.
1:46:34
That's a great word. Episode 9, he goes back to the
1:46:38
original apartment to get clothes, get money, because of
1:46:41
course there's a pillowcase full of money.
1:46:43
Of course, the friend that got murdered.
1:46:45
Mons Hulk. Oh, I forgot about.
1:46:47
Monso devastating when the guy died I was like oh shit like.
1:46:50
This. Yeah, this is getting serious.
1:46:51
People are getting serious. So he ends up back there.
1:46:54
He's also been framed for that murder, of course.
1:46:56
So now he's a double, double homicide double, he said.
1:46:59
He says he he sets up a memorial for him.
1:47:03
He. Does with his favorite ham.
1:47:04
And this little soldier, did he put a drink out for him?
1:47:06
Yeah, yeah. And he says he loved Mansok and
1:47:10
the hallucination of his daughter says you love him.
1:47:14
Do you think love dies? As in because he said past
1:47:17
basically past tense. I loved loved.
1:47:20
And she says no, the concept of love never dying.
1:47:22
Dies is. I was like, that's a lot.
1:47:26
But it also is this little girl who I said is an actual mock,
1:47:29
like she is such a but. That's his, his hallucination of
1:47:33
her. It's his hallucination, his
1:47:34
vision of her. Yes.
1:47:36
And for her to say something so profound, I was like, damn, this
1:47:39
is. I'm going to I'm not going to
1:47:41
talk about this in detail here because I know we're wrapping
1:47:43
this up, but I have, as I said, like I mentioned earlier, the
1:47:46
biblical references and the way that this writer was pulling
1:47:50
from those moments. I really was getting a kick out
1:47:52
of this time around. I did not catch them at all the
1:47:54
first time I watched this, but I could see a lot of that there.
1:47:57
And I feel like that's why the SU Jin the little girl
1:48:00
character, she was giving this kind of like holier than thou,
1:48:05
you know, almost Jesus S character she.
1:48:09
Really like a little sacrificial.
1:48:10
She was, she was. So we'll, that's not what we're
1:48:14
doing today, but I'm just going to say I saw the writer, I saw
1:48:17
her, I saw you, I saw you. We can skip a lot of stuff
1:48:22
because it's like this. Starts rinsing and repeating at
1:48:24
this point. The camera, the Deca, the
1:48:28
digital camera, that's the Mac Guffin of the whole show.
1:48:32
He ends up finally getting it in episode 10, and then it promptly
1:48:35
gets stolen from him. By our our assassin.
1:48:39
My I started laughing in episode 11 though when he perfectly drew
1:48:42
the assassin. I thought that was perfect.
1:48:45
I was like, of course he knows how to draw.
1:48:46
Too. I was like, what?
1:48:48
She was like this. She even makes a comment.
1:48:49
This is a hard job. She's like, this is a really
1:48:51
good, really good job. I'm like, why aren't she even
1:48:54
saying that? Like, you don't even need to say
1:48:55
that. Yes, I thought that was so
1:48:57
silly. It was a perfect portrait of the
1:48:59
assassin. I lost it.
1:49:00
I thought, oh, oh, let's talk really quick about when the
1:49:06
cops. Hong Wu becomes the mole.
1:49:09
Oh, I couldn't. I like I said, he's one of the
1:49:14
worst characters in this drama, obviously, because why would he?
1:49:18
Why would he be so stupid? Why would he be so stupid?
1:49:21
Yeah, and. That's what I mean by like, he
1:49:23
was just like, I don't know what he was fighting for.
1:49:26
I think at some point, because I thought the whole reason was to,
1:49:29
I mean, to him, his justification is of course, he's
1:49:32
trying to now help him make it to the two weeks so he can make
1:49:36
it to the surgery, right? But like in the process, it's
1:49:39
like you're hurting him, you're hurting the case, you're hurting
1:49:42
him getting to that two weeks. This man wants him dead, you
1:49:46
know. That and he's trying to, he's
1:49:47
busting into Muni Slope, the gangsters office.
1:49:53
Like to do. What he initially, I think the
1:49:56
second time he does it, he has a a bug on him like he is
1:50:01
recording the conversation and wound is like is like, do you
1:50:04
really think that you can record me in this space on my turf?
1:50:08
And I don't know. That yeah, Yeah.
1:50:09
And that I wouldn't know. And the cop is literally, he has
1:50:13
a moment and this is to us, the the audience, he's like, damn
1:50:17
it. Right.
1:50:19
He's like. Drat.
1:50:21
They got me and I'm like dude, go home.
1:50:24
You have no. Business doing anything, you're
1:50:27
not helping anything. No, get out of there.
1:50:30
Yeah, a lot of those moments happen.
1:50:32
I'm sorry. With him and the executor, they
1:50:34
do that very often. It's like you're busting into
1:50:36
those, these bad billing, these bad guys, they're in their home
1:50:40
turf being like, I'm gonna get you sucka.
1:50:43
And it's like. Bitch.
1:50:45
What? You're in my house.
1:50:47
Literally, literally, I hated it.
1:50:50
I hated it. I can't.
1:50:51
I can't. One other thing that I couldn't
1:50:53
deal with was that they a lot of this stuff happens with CCTV,
1:50:58
with footage, yes, footage. And what they do is they're able
1:51:02
to upscale all of this really choppy, blurry, low resolution
1:51:08
footage and listen, I was there, right?
1:51:12
I was living in 2013. No, like that was not.
1:51:18
Possible. Yeah.
1:51:20
They're like, it's almost as if you filmed this with a actual
1:51:22
television camera. Literally you shoot movies, why
1:51:25
is suddenly they zoom in to look at license plates, to look at
1:51:28
people's faces, all of a sudden they're it's in 4K.
1:51:31
It's an actual 4K like. There weren't that many pixels
1:51:35
back then. At all.
1:51:36
Sorry. Not for CCTV, not for even cell
1:51:40
phones. I know cell.
1:51:41
Phone footage is like, come on, even the camera.
1:51:44
I think I had just got an iPhone.
1:51:46
Exactly. Like even the digital camera
1:51:48
that they were going on and on about, like, was that footage
1:51:51
really that clear? Like, was it really that clear
1:51:54
back then? I don't know.
1:51:55
No, it was. It was troubling.
1:51:57
It was, it was. You can tell when it's like this
1:52:00
is some TV magic, obviously. Yes, the mom gets kidnapped, the
1:52:06
baby almost gets kidnapped. She was waiting for all of.
1:52:08
Us but that's a smart girlie, she said.
1:52:11
Wait a minute, my dad told me to wait for my mom to come to see
1:52:15
me then she's. Like when she did the shoe.
1:52:16
Trick shoe drop. She did this book, she drop her
1:52:19
crock and I was like, damn, yeah, she's on to him.
1:52:21
She's got his ass. She's like, I'm not about to let
1:52:24
this man wheel me out of here. No way, Jose, No way.
1:52:28
And she's very, I was just like, Oh my God.
1:52:29
But she's she's so little and like dating.
1:52:31
She's so small, so. Small.
1:52:34
So anyway, they both make it out OK.
1:52:37
I like this moment in episode 14 where the mom tells Solene tells
1:52:44
Tesson, let's forget about the past eight years that you
1:52:47
weren't by her side because you're giving her your bone
1:52:50
marrow in two days. Like let's wash it all.
1:52:53
Wash it to wash. And she says I want to forgive
1:52:57
you. That way you'll forgive
1:52:58
yourself. Exactly.
1:53:01
Which I really appreciate it. I really appreciate that and I
1:53:03
just think the final episodes it.
1:53:06
Wraps up ever. It does and the the moments they
1:53:10
give him and his daughter were so important to me too.
1:53:13
Like, I just love seeing like, their little moments and their
1:53:16
little she. Had a little bucket list she
1:53:18
situation that she wanted to do with her dad I.
1:53:21
Love. Her like him, carrying her on
1:53:23
her shoulders, playing soccer with him and camping out all the
1:53:27
things. He does it all in one day with
1:53:28
her. He does.
1:53:29
He has to because he ends up telling he's going to be
1:53:32
leaving. So there's that.
1:53:34
What did you think of that? What's your interpretation of
1:53:36
this ending? Even after the second time, like
1:53:39
I genuinely I'm still not convinced that he would leave
1:53:42
her behind. I'm also not convinced that inhe
1:53:47
would let him leave them behind. So I don't know.
1:53:52
And but I also was trying to figure out what was like.
1:53:54
Why did he feel like he needed to be a better, become a better
1:53:58
person? Well, yeah.
1:53:59
He's still a deadbeat dad. He is but he.
1:54:01
He is, but he has the motivation now to do better.
1:54:07
I understand what you're saying. You're kind of like, OK, he
1:54:10
knows what he has to. Do knows what he has to do.
1:54:13
We'll definitely do it. He should just got a heart of.
1:54:15
Gold. He can do it.
1:54:17
Reform gangster Reform band He. Can do it, He can.
1:54:20
I believe in him. That's what I feel I see about
1:54:22
the end. I was kind.
1:54:23
Of more, I was more on his side, but I was like, yeah, get your
1:54:25
shit together. I knew you would be, but I'm
1:54:28
like I. You know he doesn't have a full
1:54:30
time even. He doesn't, but I will say I
1:54:33
appreciated that about his character, though.
1:54:34
That's even more reason why I liked him, because he even was
1:54:37
like, you know what? I got to get myself together,
1:54:40
let me go. He has to like set.
1:54:41
Up a new life. But I also thought to your
1:54:44
point, he could just set up a new life with his family.
1:54:48
With them, yes. Well, are we going to say what
1:54:51
happened with with her and her detectives?
1:54:53
So they I think it was a breakup.
1:54:56
It was a breakup. That was that's how I took it,
1:54:59
but it wasn't. It wasn't and I thought it was
1:55:01
interesting because they kind of tell it backwards, like they
1:55:05
show her basically claiming Tay song like hey, be with us.
1:55:10
And we're like, wait, what about your your fiance guy?
1:55:12
What about the guy? And then they kind of go back in
1:55:14
time and show us like they had a conversation where she's
1:55:18
basically kind of like, you know what, I was Luke warm on you
1:55:21
anyway. So, you know, so actually, let's
1:55:26
just wrap this up. And I thought that was
1:55:28
interesting that they gave them this little break up moment only
1:55:32
for her still not to be with takes on at the end.
1:55:34
Yeah, I, you know what? Yeah, because she got, she got
1:55:40
closure, basically. She did both of them.
1:55:43
With both of them. But what about Sue Jin though?
1:55:46
No, but now the little girl, like, yes, she didn't do
1:55:48
nothing. She didn't do anything, why
1:55:50
can't? She no, she lost both dads.
1:55:51
You. Can't have either one of.
1:55:53
Them. Yeah.
1:55:53
Why? She's back to being a single
1:55:55
mom. You know, she works 22 jobs.
1:55:58
I mean, and she thinking about in hay as well, like she was
1:56:01
what was she was a manager at like a food spot.
1:56:04
Like she also didn't have tons going on as far as like being a
1:56:09
good financial and you know, she.
1:56:10
Didn't own the place. She didn't.
1:56:11
She was a manager. She was just a manager.
1:56:14
Yeah, like she wasn't. It wasn't like she owned this
1:56:16
franchise location. No, no, she was being supported
1:56:19
by, you know, her fiance. You see what I mean?
1:56:23
And I was like, there's some, there was something.
1:56:25
There. Where's the medical bills?
1:56:27
Where's the bill obviously have. I don't know, girl.
1:56:31
I don't know. Maybe that's one gift from the
1:56:34
Munilsok gangster character, because he came in and was like
1:56:38
a secret donor to. The That's true for the
1:56:41
foundation. Yeah.
1:56:42
Yeah. I was like, he's.
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So. I mean, of course they would
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have a bad guy do something like that.
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It was like what? No.
1:56:49
I thought it was funny. Are they playing with the soccer
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ball that the gangster spot? Left that he he left her.
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I hope not I. Hope not me too.
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Who knows? All right, we have.
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I've come to the end of my notes.
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There's a lot of like plotty stuff that we can go over, but
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really it's just that's it. We, we're not.
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I think we hit, we hit what we need.
1:57:10
Your experience of it. Yeah, for sure.
1:57:12
Thank you so much for going on this two week journey with me.
1:57:16
No, but all things have to end. Yes.
1:57:20
Where can we find you online, Lola?
1:57:23
Well, you can find me over on my podcast at Lola Pops off about K
1:57:26
dramas. You can also find me on
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Instagram at Lola Pops off about K Dramas.
1:57:31
Also, I have a website blog situation Lola Pops off about
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kdramas.com. I try to be very consistent with
1:57:39
that Brandy, but yeah, that is where you can find me.
1:57:43
I love these throwing me back episodes.
1:57:45
Yes, it's always so much fun just.
1:57:47
They are. Just I appreciate it so much.
1:57:50
I mean, I do it already on my on my podcast, but it's always
1:57:53
still a blast coming over here and and hearing you laugh and
1:57:57
make me laugh about these, these these oldies.
1:58:00
I can be blinded sometimes I can't.
1:58:02
I think I can be. We all can, yeah.
1:58:05
But. It's fun to have a sounding
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board. It does.
1:58:08
It's it's perfect. It's what it feels like a
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sounding board of like, hey, actually that that like you said
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about the music, I'm a little hurt still.
1:58:15
And you were a huge fan of the OST, but or well, not with OST,
1:58:20
the music. Yeah, but you know, that's OK.
1:58:22
It's alright. We'll live.
1:58:24
Thank you, Lola. Thank you so much.
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And that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been
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the Tabak Kay Ramos podcast.