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From Fangirls to Formula: How Two Girls, One Formula Are Rewriting the Motorsport Narrative · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  BreakFix podcast is all about capturing the living history of people from
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  all over the autosphere, from wrench turners and racers to artists, authors,
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  designers, and everything in between.
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  Our goal is to inspire a new generation of petrolheads that wonder.
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  How did they get that job or become that person?
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  The road to success is paved by all of us because everyone has a story.
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  They started a safe space for F1 fans who felt marginalized in male
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  dominate spaces to connect, make friends and discuss races, drivers,
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  team drama, future goals and aspirations, and everything in between.
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  Their specialty is connecting formula one.
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  To pop culture and exploring the lighter, more fun side to the
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  world's most elite motorsport.
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  That's right, Tanya.
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  Kate and Nicole of Two Girls, One Formula podcast fly their
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  fangirl flag loud and proud and are never ashamed to get the label.
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  They understand that you can respect the technical side of the sport
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  and think the drivers are cute too.
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  And they're joining us tonight for a special BrakeFix crossover episode.
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  Brad, Tanya, and I want to welcome you both to BrakeFix.
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  So how are you doing there, Nicole and Kate?
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  Hi, thank you so much for having us.
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  We're super excited to be here.
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  Yeah, it's always fun to do a crossover with another show,
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  especially if it's motorsport related.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  So as our listeners know, Tanya and Brad are our resident Formula 1 subject
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  matter experts because they talk about it on every drive thru episode since.
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  The very first one, there's that expert word again, I was going to
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  say, I can see Tanya rolling her eyes a little bit about that strong word.
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  Yeah.
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  Eric, you're setting us up to be shamed on our own show.
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  Even if you watch five minutes of F1, you're still more expert than I am.
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  It's five years more than you've seen in the last 10 years.
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  It's all relative.
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  What I'm hearing here is we're all going to gang up on Eric in this episode.
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  So actually the whole premise of the episode is to convince
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  him why he should watch F1.
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  And I have to tell you using the F1 drivers is cute.
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  Might get your foot in the door.
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  It might be a good opening for him.
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  I love that drive to survive definitely will not be the way in.
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  I will tell you that right now.
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  It is a known fact on this show that I refuse, even though Brad has tried
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  and multiple attempts unsuccessfully to get me to watch drive to survive.
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  It's not going to happen.
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  What's the reasoning behind that?
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  Are we going to get into that later?
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  Hardheaded stubbornness, but we can talk more about it.
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  All right, we won't jump the gun on it.
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  Well, we're going to unpack that though.
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  Yeah, yes, we have to unpack that.
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  He just doesn't watch F1 anymore because let's Not try to talk
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  about, like, F1 20 years ago, because you'll put us all to shame.
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  Got it.
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  Absolutely.
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  Got it.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Setting the scene.
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  I'm got, my wheels are turning.
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  I'm, I'm building the case.
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  I'm ready for this.
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  Great.
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  Great.
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  Great.
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  We'll stop picking on Eric for now.
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  We're going to go back to that.
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  But let's address the 900 pound cup in the room.
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  Tell us how you all became F1 fans.
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  Yeah.
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  So a little bit of a long story, a little bit of a backstory is
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  that I was dating someone in 2015 and he was a huge Formula One fan.
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  I had never heard of the sport before, and I thought that
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  racing cars was pretty dumb.
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  I was like, this is what you choose to spend your time on.
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  Okay, great.
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  Eventually our relationship got pretty serious.
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  We moved in together and my weekends were just.
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  dictated by qualifying and when the race was on.
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  So I was like, okay, well, if this is going to be my life now, then
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  I might as well pick a favorite driver and just really get into it
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  because I'm going to have to watch this sport every single weekend.
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  And my ex boyfriend was like one of those people who
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  consumed every single interview.
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  He like watched all of the race highlights, every piece of content.
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  And so I started picking up on the fact that Daniel Ricardo was
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  like one of the more enjoyable humans to watch on the screen.
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  And so I was like, he has the best personality.
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  That's my guy.
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  I'm going to start cheering for him.
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  I have heard it said before by other female fans of Formula One.
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  It's the smile that launched a million fans.
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  I believe it.
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  I believe that.
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  You know, I was just, I would watch the press conferences and, you know,
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  Lewis is very serious and you've got Seb and, and they take their job seriously,
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  but Danny's up there cracking jokes.
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  And I was like, all right, well, he makes this enjoyable for me.
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  So I'm going to watch for him.
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  I ended up going to my first race, which was Montreal, 2017, 2016.
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  That was kind of when it clicked for me and I was like, I get it being
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  there, hearing the cars in person, like seeing all of the people who
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  came from all around the world, the sense of community was incredible.
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  That was just a really fun environment.
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  And so that kind of clicked for me and I was like, all right, I'm in it.
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  So Montreal was my first race.
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  Then I got to go to Silverstone and then.
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  Kate and I lived next door to each other.
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  So her and her boyfriend at the time now fiance live next door to
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  my boyfriend and I in South Boston.
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  And we were basically just like, come over, watch the race with us.
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  We like to spend time together anyway, and we want more people involved.
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  So like come over and hang out.
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  And so Kate will take over the story now.
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  Yeah, so Nick and I started getting into it just because we would
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  hang out with Nicole and Alex.
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  And at first I was like, this is really just an excuse for
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  me to hang out with my friends.
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  And like, I don't really care what's happening on the TV.
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  Like if you're going to feed me and also make me cocktails at 8am, I will be there.
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  And I don't care about anything else.
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  I mean, we were just there and Alex and Nicole were so into it that
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  it was hard not to be on our end.
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  And my fiance is huge into sports.
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  So this was just like another sport for him to love.
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  So did you have, like, a cool name for it?
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  Like, Brunching with Botas?
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  I wish.
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  No, it was just Sunday Brunch, I guess.
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  Yeah, it was just, it was just Well, it was like our Sunday couple friends day.
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  Yeah.
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  We had, like, yeah, so we would just, like, would watch the races in the morning
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  and then hang out the rest of the day and, like, go get food and do whatever.
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  We got really into it.
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  And then, I think this was, what, 2018, Nicole?
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  Yeah, was like when we first were getting into it because I remember one of the
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  first races I ever watched Kimmy one.
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  Yeah, it was Austin 2018.
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  Yeah, and he won and I was just obsessed with him.
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  I was like, this dude doesn't care.
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  He doesn't care that he just won.
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  No emotion was just like.
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  Awesome.
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  And I was like, I love his vibe.
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  I love this man's vibe.
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  I love him now.
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  He's my favorite after that is when drive to survive came out.
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  And so we got a chance to like dive a little deeper into it and get to
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  know the players a little bit better and team principals and the drivers
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  and kind of everyone involved, which sealed the deal for us.
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  And then I'll pass back to Nicole for the remaining part of the story.
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  Before we pass it to Nicole, did you stick with Kimmy into his NASCAR
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  era, I guess, a couple months ago?
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  We really wanted to go to Watkins Glen.
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  I don't remember why we couldn't, Nicole.
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  I think you had a Batswrap party.
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  Ugh, you're right.
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  I had like, I had seven weddings this year and I was in a few of them
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  and had bachelorette parties and every single weekend for the past,
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  like five months has been taken up.
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  So we did want to go see Kimmy mostly because I like wanted to see him,
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  but I also really wanted to see his family because Minto and the little
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  ice cubes, they're just the best.
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  And so I was like, if they're going to be there, I have to be there.
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  So unfortunately it was not there, but I wish I was.
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  So I just want to clarify for the audience.
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  Nicole, you were actually sort of physically involved with Formula
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  One before Drive to Survive.
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  Yes.
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  And then Kate came about it sort of through you guys, the fandom, and Drive
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  to Survive, and then went to your first kind of in person race after that.
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  So it's a bit of a...
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  You know, one side or the other.
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  Okay, cool.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  And so then my boyfriend at the time and I went to Monza and I was thoroughly
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  convinced we were getting engaged.
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  I know Kate was also convinced we were getting engaged.
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  Plot twist, we break up.
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  He has been cheating on me and we break up the night before the Grand Prix.
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  So I'm like, well, I'm still going to go to the Grand Prix because tickets
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  are expensive and we're here now.
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  And so obviously I didn't really enjoy my time in Monza.
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  I did see Charles Leclerc's last win at the time.
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  Obviously he went through a dry streak.
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  So I felt we were kind of cursed together.
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  So after that I came back and rightfully so I couldn't really watch
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  Formula One My heart was broken.
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  And so I kind of distanced myself from it a little bit.
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  And then come 2020 season, obviously we have the COVID
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  situation, everything shut down.
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  Kate basically came to me and she was like, Hey, I miss
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  watching Formula One with you.
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  Can we reclaim this and like, make it our thing instead?
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  Like, let's go back to doing brunches.
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  I think it'd be really fun if we did themed brunches around this.
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  And I was like, absolutely.
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  I'm ready to get back on the horse.
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  That summer when in 2021, they were like, all right, we
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  finally have gotten it together.
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  We're going to start racing again.
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  Kate and I were like, all right, well, we send each other so much formula
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  one content back and forth together.
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  We might as well just start an Instagram page for it so that we can separate
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  our main feed and not bother all of our friends with this formula one content.
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  Let's just find like minded individuals through our dedicated
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  Instagram, which is kind of where two girls, one formula came into play.
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  It started basically because we were just working together out of my kitchen
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  and Kate turns to me and she goes, how funny would it be if we had a
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  blog called two girls, one formula?
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  And I said, I'm buying the domain right now.
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  And that was the end of that conversation.
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  We literally didn't think about it at all.
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  Yeah, we may or may not have shot ourselves in the foot with the naming
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  decision that day, but it's stuck.
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  And that's what we're here with now.
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  It's definitely unforgettable.
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  And so, you know, our thought process around that is obviously that was a
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  cultural moment, however you view it.
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  Everyone knows.
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  It's the reference, especially if you're in a certain age group.
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  And so we aim to be that viral moment within Formula One and just make sure
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  that no one can forget who we are.
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  We're going to pause here for a second for our first Pit Stop question.
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  And this one's coming out of left field because if you do follow the two girls,
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  one formula Instagram, there's something very apparent outside of all the memes
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  and the shirtless guys and everything else is the discrepancy in your guy's height.
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  Which makes you guys very similar to me and Brad.
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  So, Nicole, how tall are you?
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  I am 5'9 Ah, so Kate, then how short are you?
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  Uh, I am 5'1 and a quarter.
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  There it is.
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  It's a quarter and a quarter.
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  Not how short she is, it's how less tall she is.
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  Yes, because Brad tends to tower over everybody in our organization.
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  So I feel you there, you know, scrolling through your guy's Instagram, it's
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  full of all sorts of interesting stuff.
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  So very cool.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  You know, the whole point of two girls was also a little bit of
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  spite for my ex boyfriend was that I wanted to be so ingrained in this.
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  Ford that he really wouldn't be able to escape my success.
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  So it started as a little bit of a revenge plot, but it has grown into
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  something so much more beautiful and really impactful for the Formula
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  One and motorsport community.
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  I have to thank him for.
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  Breaking my heart, because without it, we would not have
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  Two Girls, One Formula today.
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  You know, for people who want more on that backstory, catch, you know,
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  their first episode, essentially.
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  And there's even more to hear about this somewhat traumatic Monza event.
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  There's a little Italian lady with an umbrella.
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  There's a whole thing going on with that.
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  That was a beautiful moment.
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  I like That it was really, it really was.
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  And for context for anyone who's listening, there was a moment.
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  It was very theatrical American in Paris.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  I'm sitting at the bus stop waiting for my now ex boyfriend to go
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  figure out how we're getting from the train station to the track.
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  It's pouring rain.
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  My jacket is not waterproof.
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  It's just water resistant.
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  I'm soaked through.
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  I don't have an umbrella.
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  I'm waiting at the local bus stop.
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  You're crying.
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  I'm crying.
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  This woman just comes up to me and she just, like, doesn't
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  speak a lick of English.
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  She just stands next to me and holds her umbrella over me.
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  And I was just like, this is one of those, like, humanity is really good moments.
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  And so I think about her often.
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  Any plans to return to get your vindication, as you said?
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  Yes.
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  We definitely need to reclaim Monza.
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  We're Thinking we're hoping to do next year, the Monza
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  Grand Prix, just to reclaim it.
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  Are you going to stop by that bus stop?
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  I mean, it's right.
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  It's right outside the train station in Monza where you take
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  it if you're coming from Milan.
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  And so it's hard to miss.
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  So I will definitely be passing by and saying a little prayer.
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  You should take your own umbrella in case it's raining and then you
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  should pay it forward to the Yeah, you have to hold it over someone else.
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  You're so right.
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  I'll just leave it there for the next person.
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  With a little note saying thank you.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  That's it.
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  Yeah.
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  Since you guys are in the podcast biz as well.
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  Take us through the difference between episode one, as we've sort of been
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  highlighting here, to your 50th episode.
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  Congratulations, by the way.
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  Thank you.
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  And here's to 50 more.
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  So what did you learn 50 episodes later?
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  A lot, but also not that much.
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  You know, it's funny.
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  I haven't really listened to our first episodes in a long time because
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  they just kind of make me cringe.
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  Because we literally had no idea what we were doing.
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  We had no scripts, no agenda, no like...
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  Anything we just would get, I mean, the first.
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  3 episodes that we recorded.
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  We recorded them all within a week at Nicole's apartment in Brooklyn.
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  I went there.
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  Some of them we were just like laying in her bed right here in this in this room.
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  Yeah, in that room.
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  We're just laying there recording.
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  I don't even know what we're talking.
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  We had like grand plans.
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  Like the 1st episode is going to be about.
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  Us.
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  And the second one is going to be all about F1.
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  And the third one is going to be all about the people you need to know.
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  And it was just chaos.
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  And they're really funny.
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  I need to go back and listen to them.
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  To be fair, we literally were like, who knows how many of
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  these episodes we're going to do?
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  A couple of people had asked us to start a podcast and we said, all right, fuck it.
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  We'll do a podcast.
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  And so we like bought mics.
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  We weren't sure what equipment we needed.
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  15 off Amazon.
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  And we're like, we're just using our computers.
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  These Crappy mics, we'll see what happens.
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  And I mean, I like to think that in the past 50 episodes, we have kind
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  of found our voice and our niche and exactly kind of what people care about,
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  the ways to talk about things that are interesting, but still educational
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  enough that people know what's going on.
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  We still don't totally do agendas.
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  We're working on it.
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  We're really trying.
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  We do have like a shared notes app that we will like pop things in
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  and we try to organize it, but it doesn't totally work, but I think
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  we're trying to learn how to do like segments and like segment our thoughts.
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  I mean, the thing that I think people like about the podcast for us
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  is that it's very much just a real conversation between the two of us.
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  The conversations that are on our podcast are literally conversations that we have
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  just like every single day on the phone.
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  Like, I will just like in the middle of the day, FaceTime Nicole, just cause
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  like I am bored and we'll just like talk and afterwards we'll just be like,
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  that should have been a podcast episode.
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  Like that was funny.
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  So it's just like, that's just kind of how it feels.
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  So in some ways I'm like, I don't think we've learned too, too much because we
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  haven't really tried to be anything that we weren't when we started the podcast.
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  But I do think hopefully we're.
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  A little better.
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  I think we're a little better at editing.
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  I think Nicole has really honed her skills in editing the podcast, um,
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  because we used to only get comments like, your sound quality is so bad.
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  Well, I think there was one of the episodes where you guys were like,
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  you should really listen to this in like 2x and I'm like, what?
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  I'm like, okay, like, all right, but I will say that it's kind of
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  funny how, when we all get started, we sort of have a similar story.
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  I bought the cheapest thing I could find at Walmart or on Amazon, and we just threw
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  it up against the wall and saw what stuck.
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  And the same thing, Brad used to always say, you know, it's kind of BSing
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  in the basement, and I think we all apologized for our first season, right?
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  We're kind of like, yeah, it wasn't great, but you know,
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  it got me to where I am today.
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  I will say Tanya pointed out as we were all reviewing and following your show
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  that there has been a big transition.
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  You can see it.
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  The show has matured quickly in 50 episodes.
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  So you guys are definitely on the right track and we're really curious
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  to see, you know, how that perpetuates.
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  Thank you.
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  One of my favorite episodes was the road trip, one of the most recent ones,
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  the road trip from Dallas to Towson.
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  The sound quality was great on that one.
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  I'm sorry the mic didn't stick to the steering wheel for you though.
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  Oh my, that was probably the funniest thing that's ever happened.
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  We are so proud, we're like, this is...
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  Perfect.
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  Like I had it in the steering wheel, like perfectly hooked up and then
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  immediately had to back up and like back out of my parking spot.
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  So I had to like turn the wheel.
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  So the microphone is like spinning and the cord is pulling and the laptop's
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  moving and we're like, this is a disaster.
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  I think the road trip episode is a perfect, like encapsulation
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  of our brand a little bit, where it was just kind of like.
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  We're getting the authentic us and, uh, you know, people were commenting,
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  like, replying to us and they were like, this has been my favorite episode
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  yet because it's just so chaotic.
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  Did you guys have like a camera hooked up watching you guys?
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  It would have been funny to see Nick in the backseat.
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  No, we should have.
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  We had grand plans to like...
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  GoPro and like do all of this and then we just never got our shit
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  together in time to like do it.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, we were listening to this like murder podcast the whole time
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  and just like singing musicals.
• 17:58
  Like that's, that was the vibe.
• 18:00
  Like I wish we had a camera because That's what you guys are doing.
• 18:04
  I'm, I was just like driving one hand, holding a microphone.
• 18:07
  Like anyone that drove by us was definitely like,
• 18:09
  what's happening in that car.
• 18:11
  It was, Nick was just laying across the back seat.
• 18:14
  It was two girls, one car.
• 18:16
  I mean, come on.
• 18:18
  It really was.
• 18:19
  It was fun.
• 18:20
  And I think, you know, we've learned a lot.
• 18:22
  We've had the opportunity to have a handful of guests on the podcast.
• 18:25
  And so I think we've also learned how to be better
• 18:27
  interviewers and like how to pick.
• 18:29
  Guests who are going to be like enticing and interesting for our audience members.
• 18:34
  We're continuing to grow and learn in this space.
• 18:37
  Just like you guys probably are as well.
• 18:40
  Now you guys live apart.
• 18:41
  You guys used to be, you know, next door neighbors, right?
• 18:44
  So you could get together, do your brunches, your lunches, your
• 18:47
  late afternoon, maybe even middle of the morning, 2 AM, depending
• 18:52
  where the race was being held.
• 18:53
  What are, uh, some food tips for people if they want to hold a little F1 brunch?
• 18:58
  Did you guys have like actual themes per race or was it like Brazil?
• 19:03
  So we've got something Brazilian.
• 19:05
  It's Italy.
• 19:05
  We're getting pizza.
• 19:07
  Yeah, it started out pretty simple where we would just, we would say, okay, race
• 19:11
  is in Russia, so like, let's look up what.
• 19:14
  People in Russia usually have her brunch and we're going to make it.
• 19:17
  And then you ordered something else, right?
• 19:20
  No, we made them.
• 19:21
  We did.
• 19:22
  We had white Russians on 7 a.
• 19:24
  m.
• 19:27
  Rod's listening now.
• 19:29
  You have my attention.
• 19:31
  That is the drink of choice.
• 19:32
  Yes.
• 19:32
  Because this all happened like when the pandemic first.
• 19:36
  Kicked off and so I was living actually here on the Cape.
• 19:40
  My parents live here and I live on their property now.
• 19:42
  But we were here living with my parents for a while.
• 19:44
  And Nicole basically came and lived with us too.
• 19:47
  Much to the chagrin of my parents.
• 19:50
  We would be up at like the crack of dawn, just making the most.
• 19:55
  Random foods that everyone's like, what is this?
• 19:58
  One of them, I forget what it was from.
• 20:00
  I think it was like Azerbaijan.
• 20:02
  It was the, the sweet vermicelli noodles.
• 20:05
  Yeah.
• 20:06
  You, you knew exactly what it was going.
• 20:08
  It was like noodles that were like coated in cinnamon sugar with an omelet on top.
• 20:14
  Yeah.
• 20:14
  Delicious, but so strange.
• 20:16
  And we'd be like, surprise everyone.
• 20:18
  We made brunch.
• 20:19
  This is your breakfast.
• 20:20
  And everyone's like, what?
• 20:21
  Are you serving us?
• 20:23
  So that was really fun.
• 20:24
  You know, over time we kind of formalized it and figured out a better way to do it.
• 20:28
  So now on our Instagram page, every Tuesday before a race weekend, we
• 20:35
  will post a menu with some like traditional foods, but accessible foods.
• 20:39
  So nothing that's going to be like, you can only make this if you're in.
• 20:44
  Brazil country, just like things that like you can pretty easily adapt.
• 20:48
  And hopefully you have most of the things in your pantry.
• 20:50
  If not, like most grocery stores will have them around the world.
• 20:54
  So we'll do like some snacks and appetizers, some main courses, and
• 20:58
  at least one drink that's like kind of traditional to that country.
• 21:01
  And then we'll also share some facts about the track and the race itself.
• 21:04
  And then the country that they're racing in, just.
• 21:07
  So people can kind of eat the food, but also appreciate the culture
• 21:10
  and hopefully learn something.
• 21:12
  So yeah, if anyone's looking to do a brunch, watch long party and cook
• 21:16
  something, we have got you covered with menus for every single race.
• 21:20
  Yeah.
• 21:20
  And we're lucky enough to have an audience from around the world.
• 21:23
  And so we'll ask for advice from people who live in those countries.
• 21:26
  What is something traditional that you think we should include in the menu?
• 21:29
  And so we oftentimes get a lot of really good responses from that.
• 21:32
  And so that kind of helps us build our menu as well.
• 21:35
  So have you guys figured out what the actual drivers are eating?
• 21:38
  Quinoa and, uh, lettuce, protein bars, and that's it.
• 21:43
  They got to stay lean.
• 21:45
  Yeah, they're not eating anything.
• 21:47
  Basically.
• 21:48
  Uh, we're good at having all the fun and that's a lot of
• 21:51
  quinoa to get the calories in.
• 21:53
  I wouldn't want to eat a whole bunch of flaming hot nachos
• 21:56
  before going out on track.
• 21:57
  Either.
• 21:57
  So you do it anyway.
• 22:00
  Red bull, right?
• 22:02
  Or no, I'm sorry.
• 22:02
  A rich, rich energy gummy bears.
• 22:04
  Got to have a rich energy.
• 22:07
  We're a rich energy family over here.
• 22:09
  Our diet is very simple here.
• 22:10
  It's monster fig Newtons and Haribo gummy bears.
• 22:14
  I mean, the three major food groups.
• 22:15
  That's all you got to add the acre when the track goes cold.
• 22:18
  Yes.
• 22:18
  After the checkered flag, you add the Yeager a hundred percent.
• 22:22
  I love that.
• 22:23
  Yeah.
• 22:23
  So brunches, you know, kind of whatever.
• 22:26
  And Kate and I used to do it together.
• 22:27
  Now, sometimes we trade off like Kate has mentioned, she's been very,
• 22:31
  very busy in a lot of weddings.
• 22:33
  So I also have a deep passion for cooking.
• 22:37
  So more often than not, I'm the one who's cooking.
• 22:40
  She's way better.
• 22:41
  She's way better.
• 22:43
  So, you know, I'll just, I'll take the opportunity to do that.
• 22:46
  And since Kate and her fiance live on the Cape, they don't.
• 22:50
  have as many people around.
• 22:51
  So sometimes I'll make a really big spread and invite a bunch of people
• 22:54
  over to enjoy the spread and to also convince them that they need to
• 22:58
  start watching Formula One as well.
• 23:00
  So it's a little bit of a trap.
• 23:01
  You're an evangelist.
• 23:03
  Exactly.
• 23:04
  So if I can get you up and Adam by 9am for food at my home, then you're trapped
• 23:10
  here and you have to watch the race.
• 23:11
  All right.
• 23:12
  So second pit stop question.
• 23:14
  Do you guys have a bucket list?
• 23:16
  Of any car, any track you want to see or be at.
• 23:21
  Your ultimate F1 race, what is it?
• 23:24
  A, I'm not super knowledgeable on a variety of cars.
• 23:27
  I know names and that's basically it.
• 23:30
  And I'm also not very good at historical, like, versions of the F1 cars.
• 23:34
  I can't say that I have, like, a dream car.
• 23:37
  But.
• 23:38
  I would love if the Nuremberg Ring came back because that is one that I am dying
• 23:44
  to go to, so maybe if there is another series going on there, I'll make my way
• 23:49
  over there to go see it just because I think it's a beautiful, beautiful track.
• 23:53
  I would love to go to Suzuka and Singapore.
• 23:58
  I think those are the two that I would just like love to go to.
• 24:00
  I think they're so fun.
• 24:01
  Like I would love to see Singapore like at night and I think it's just such a
• 24:06
  cool city and I love the vibe that F1 brings to cities and I think that at
• 24:11
  Singapore would be crazy and I just think Suzuka is so fun and those are the two.
• 24:15
  I think that are.
• 24:16
  The most bucket list, because I think they'll probably be the
• 24:18
  hardest ones for me to get myself to.
• 24:21
  I've got a photo of somewhere of a part of the Singapore track from my
• 24:25
  hotel room when I was there a number of years ago, you could just see like, Oh,
• 24:31
  the bumpers and like, it disappeared under whatever, like bleachers to
• 24:34
  the soccer stadium or something.
• 24:36
  It was pretty cool to see that.
• 24:38
  You'll have to find it and shoot us an email with it.
• 24:40
  I'll have to dig deep for it.
• 24:42
  Brad and I want to do a dueling GTIs at Yasmarina.
• 24:46
  So it's a whole different experience.
• 24:48
  Okay.
• 24:48
  Yeah.
• 24:49
  As I mentioned at the top of the conversation, I have yet to watch a
• 24:53
  single moment of Drive to Survive, but you guys are both fans and you've
• 24:58
  been to races in real life, so let's do a little bit of this versus that.
• 25:02
  Drive to Survive versus IRL or in real life.
• 25:06
  What do you guys think?
• 25:07
  Okay.
• 25:08
  So here's the thing.
• 25:10
  I know Drive to Survive gets.
• 25:11
  a bad rep.
• 25:12
  People who have watched it before get angry that there's
• 25:15
  so many Drive to Survive fans.
• 25:16
  However, as someone who didn't have anyone in their life who watched
• 25:21
  it before, I just had my boyfriend and I, and I was desperate for
• 25:25
  my friends to be a part of this.
• 25:27
  I am grateful that Drive to Survive came around because it welcomed so
• 25:31
  many new people into a sport that is historically kind of tricky to get into.
• 25:36
  There's a lot of terminology that you can't Pick up right
• 25:39
  away, especially if you're not in tune with car culture at all.
• 25:43
  It's very technical.
• 25:45
  You're kind of thinking, especially as an American fan, what do we have?
• 25:47
  We have NASCAR, we have IndyCar and barely anyone knows about IndyCar.
• 25:52
  Well, now they do, but I feel like prior to that, it was like just NASCAR.
• 25:55
  So you're like, okay, they're going around in circles, whatever, you know, to have
• 25:58
  this show be an accessible way for so many of my friends and loved ones to be like.
• 26:04
  Okay, like I understand the appeal of this.
• 26:07
  I'll wake up with you at 7am to watch this sport.
• 26:10
  So for us, we're like, great.
• 26:13
  I love that this is a tool in my toolkit to convince people to
• 26:17
  want to be fans of this sport.
• 26:18
  Do I think that you should also get your ass to a real race?
• 26:23
  Absolutely.
• 26:23
  Because like I said earlier, that was kind of the moment for me where it clicked.
• 26:28
  Hearing the cars, feeling the environment, seeing the drivers in real life is
• 26:32
  just like taken from your screen and you really get to experience that.
• 26:37
  Now, not everyone has the ability to go to a race, they're
• 26:41
  getting more and more expensive.
• 26:42
  And, you know, some of them are in the far reaches of the globe.
• 26:46
  And so I think drive to survive is a great way for people to connect with the sport.
• 26:51
  In America, we love stories and we love TV and we love rooting for an underdog.
• 26:56
  We like to get to know people's stories.
• 26:58
  Like, I mean, that's why reality TV is so huge.
• 27:00
  Like we like to know everything.
• 27:03
  about people and about things that we care about.
• 27:05
  And so I think Drive to Survive kind of hit the nail on the head in order to
• 27:10
  get American fans involved and invested, because you can watch races and you can
• 27:15
  watch press conferences and you can be like, Oh, like, so and so does this a lot.
• 27:18
  And like, I know this person, but To have Drive2Survive kind of going
• 27:23
  behind the curtains, even if it is a bit contrived, it's obviously
• 27:26
  not fully real conversations, but I don't think they're fake.
• 27:30
  Like, I think the situations are real and maybe it's just like, Oh, we're going
• 27:33
  to film you guys talking about this.
• 27:35
  So you're not going to have like a totally natural conversation.
• 27:37
  To be able to have that, to be able to get to know different people involved
• 27:40
  in the sport is huge for people to get invested and choose someone
• 27:44
  to care about because you can see their personality a little bit more.
• 27:47
  Like Nicole said, a great educational tool for people that have no
• 27:51
  preconceptions about what this is.
• 27:53
  I personally have been trying to get more into other motorsports
• 27:57
  since, you know, loving F1 and I really want to get into MotoGP.
• 28:02
  Like I want to be like a huge fan of MotoGP so badly.
• 28:06
  For those that don't know what that is.
• 28:08
  That's the Formula One of motorcycle racing motorcycles.
• 28:11
  Yes.
• 28:12
  I want to be a big fan of MotoGP really bad.
• 28:14
  I think the athletes there are so cool and so fun and like, are a little bit
• 28:18
  more like personality and spirited than F1 drivers, like they just feel
• 28:23
  like they have such huge personalities.
• 28:25
  Cause they've got much huger balls.
• 28:27
  Yeah, they're like, Oh, I just broke the entire right side of my body, but
• 28:32
  like, I'll be back in three weeks.
• 28:33
  And I'm like, that's.
• 28:35
  Crazy to me.
• 28:36
  So does this play into the whole, you know, Hemsworth when he was playing James
• 28:40
  Hunt and the quote from Rush where he's like, women are attracted to race car
• 28:43
  drivers because they're so close to death.
• 28:45
  So do the motorcycle guys like take it to the next level that they're even hotter?
• 28:50
  Because I'm like, yeah, and let me tell you, they work out to be
• 28:54
  able to have that core strength.
• 28:55
  But for me, I was like, I'm watching the races and I tried to just like
• 28:59
  dive in and be and like follow people on Instagram and watch the races.
• 29:03
  And I was like, I have no idea what's going on.
• 29:06
  And things are happening so fast.
• 29:08
  The announcers are talking so fast.
• 29:09
  I don't really know what's going on.
• 29:11
  Amazon Prime did a series on MotoGP that was very similar to Drive to Survive.
• 29:17
  It was awesome for me to be able to watch that and like get to know who the
• 29:21
  different riders are and who the different teams are and kind of the dynamics
• 29:26
  between them and how things work and like what is big drama there and like what
• 29:30
  is something to watch out for and like if that happens like that's not normal
• 29:34
  or like if someone falls off a bike.
• 29:36
  That's pretty normal in a race where like in F1, I feel like if there's a
• 29:39
  really big crash that doesn't happen every single race, but in MotoGP,
• 29:44
  it's like, it's pretty common.
• 29:45
  I feel like we just like canceling Haas altogether.
• 29:48
  I mean, when we get to that later, there's literally a wreck.
• 29:51
  Every race they wreck before the race though, semantics.
• 29:57
  Now I see what we're doing, but at the same time in F1, if
• 30:00
  there's a big crash, it like.
• 30:02
  Halts the race.
• 30:03
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  Yeah.
• 30:03
  I mean, there's safety cars with MotoGP.
• 30:06
  They're just sliding off the track and they're just kind of, you're good because
• 30:10
  it's not like a huge car with like things.
• 30:12
  They're just like on their butt sliding across.
• 30:15
  I think that drive to survive has its value in the way the MotoGP series had
• 30:19
  for me that I was able to like get more into it and like understand the ins and
• 30:24
  outs a little bit better as someone had.
• 30:26
  No knowledge about it before, so it's funny you say that because I've
• 30:30
  also heard the counter argument that there are other sanctioning bodies of
• 30:34
  motorsport that are trying to replicate the drive to survive success formula.
• 30:38
  1 of those being NASCAR.
• 30:39
  And unfortunately, it has failed miserably.
• 30:42
  Does it have more to do with the personalities?
• 30:47
  Because NASCAR doesn't need a reality TV show, it already is a reality TV show.
• 30:53
  I mean, I'm sorry, what do you mean?
• 30:56
  They had Ricky Bobby.
• 30:58
  They had that movie years ago.
• 31:00
  That was the documentary.
• 31:01
  Exactly.
• 31:02
  It was a documentary.
• 31:03
  Days of Thunder.
• 31:04
  Yeah, exactly.
• 31:05
  So I think NASCAR has a certain.
• 31:09
  Brand that is very different to what Formula One brand is, right?
• 31:14
  Like Formula One is elite motorsport.
• 31:17
  It's for super rich people.
• 31:18
  It's an aspiration to be able to go to these races that you see the celebrities.
• 31:23
  Obviously in America, we have an obsession with celebrity culture.
• 31:27
  Whereas I don't think that that reflects the same as it does in
• 31:31
  NASCAR, where it's like you're drinking Bush light in your cutoff shorts.
• 31:36
  And your sunburn and it's trashy and that's fine.
• 31:40
  And I think it's great.
• 31:40
  I'd love to go to a NASCAR race and experience that.
• 31:43
  And that's his charm, but it's very different.
• 31:46
  And I think people think about when F1 kind of blew up and they're
• 31:50
  thinking about the Austin Grand Prix.
• 31:51
  And we think about last year and all of the like crazy, stupid
• 31:54
  American stuff that F1 drivers do.
• 31:56
  And the rest of the world was like, look at.
• 31:58
  The Americans and like, look at how dumb they look with our elite motorsport.
• 32:03
  I think a lot of people just considered F1 to be similar to NASCAR.
• 32:06
  And that's kind of why they didn't consider it a fun sport, but now
• 32:10
  they see that it's different.
• 32:11
  But I think F1 is the gateway drug into other motorsports.
• 32:15
  And we've seen that with our community and that so many people come in through
• 32:19
  drive to survive through F1, but then are like, okay, I'm interested in IndyCar.
• 32:23
  I'm interested in the feeder series.
• 32:26
  I'm interested in.
• 32:28
  MotoGP.
• 32:29
  And so like our discord has channels for basically all types of motorsport
• 32:33
  because they're eager to learn because they're interested in formula one.
• 32:37
  So I'm definitely picking up on that.
• 32:39
  And I can honestly admit that I've converted a lot of people to multiclass
• 32:43
  endurance racing because these were like diehard formula one people.
• 32:47
  And they watched their first sail in six hours or 12 hours of Sebring
• 32:51
  or the Rolex 24, even Le Mans.
• 32:53
  I'm like, how did you live this long and not watch one of these endurance races?
• 32:57
  But when they watch it, they're like, Oh my God, the action and
• 33:01
  the passing and the strategy.
• 33:02
  And there's all this stuff going on and it's just super chaos.
• 33:05
  And it's not 90 minutes of a conga line because that's what a lot of
• 33:09
  diehard F1 fans are faced with.
• 33:11
  They're like, wherever you qualify is where you finish this part.
• 33:13
  Don't talk about Alonzo like that.
• 33:15
  My thing is.
• 33:18
  I can't watch spec racing anymore.
• 33:20
  Right.
• 33:21
  I gave up on formula one really after the V10 era.
• 33:25
  So in the old days, you had a mix of stuff.
• 33:27
  You could do VH, could be six turbos.
• 33:28
  You could have six wheel tierals.
• 33:30
  They were at the cutting edge of technology.
• 33:32
  Now it's like, well, there's three chassis builders and three motors
• 33:35
  and we debate this all the time.
• 33:36
  So for me, I see it as, I hate to say kind of boring versus multi class.
• 33:41
  Endurance racing, you've got Porsche and Ferrari and Corvette and Lotus
• 33:45
  and whoever and all these people.
• 33:47
  It's kind of cool to see them going at each other and you can distinctively
• 33:51
  tell the difference between them.
• 33:52
  The other thing I kind of take issue with with drive to survive, since
• 33:55
  we're speaking candidly about this and I don't bring it up too often
• 33:58
  on the show, he's never watched.
• 34:01
  It's because maybe I'm a little bit of a purist because I feel
• 34:04
  that drive to survive ripped off.
• 34:07
  Truth in 24, because if you look at what Audi, Netflix and Jason
• 34:12
  Statham did many years before drive to survive came out, it's a
• 34:15
  condensed version of drive to survive.
• 34:18
  And so it's nothing new, but I've also felt like Formula 1 didn't need this.
• 34:22
  It's sort of like when we talk about celebrities.
• 34:25
  Partnering with certain brands.
• 34:26
  And we're like, we didn't need you to tell us that this car manufacturer was cool.
• 34:31
  It was already cool.
• 34:32
  Well, here's the thing I will counter with saying that F1 didn't need that
• 34:37
  because they did need that because F1 was a failing brand with Bernie and Liberty
• 34:43
  media bought it and their stakeholders were like, you gotta make money.
• 34:47
  And they said, we got to expand the American markets and how can we do that?
• 34:51
  And they said, Netflix and Netflix brought in all of the money for them.
• 34:56
  And they turned that frown upside down.
• 34:58
  And now F1 is booming company for them.
• 35:01
  I hope Netflix got a good cut.
• 35:02
  Cause F1 owes them something.
• 35:04
  Exactly.
• 35:05
  So I think the sport was stale and I think before Liberty came in, social
• 35:11
  media was not a thing that drivers were really allowed to participate in.
• 35:15
  They kind of were just.
• 35:17
  formula one drivers and you didn't know them outside of that.
• 35:19
  And now this whole new version of formula one has kind of come to the surface.
• 35:24
  And so I agree with you.
• 35:25
  I do think that sometimes it's a little bit boring, but I think that
• 35:28
  it's only going to continue to evolve whether or not people agree with this,
• 35:33
  you Eric, with the purist situation.
• 35:35
  And that I think a lot of decision making is going to go into it to make it.
• 35:39
  And we've even seen with.
• 35:40
  Abu Dhabi last year with the Lewis and Max finish that things are going to
• 35:43
  start to happen for dramatics and to make it more of an exciting sport to
• 35:47
  watch at maybe the detriment to the driving itself, we are used to now
• 35:54
  having this very, you know, I think of the bachelor season, the most dramatic
• 35:59
  season yet, which is how I think formula one is like starting to feel that way.
• 36:03
  It's a dangerous line that they need to not cross becomes NASCAR.
• 36:07
  Right.
• 36:08
  Drama, they almost crossed it last year at the final race.
• 36:12
  Yeah.
• 36:12
  I had mixed feelings about that.
• 36:14
  So, you know, but if you think, okay, if that had finished under a yellow
• 36:17
  flag, that that would have been so anticlimactic to a pretty exciting season.
• 36:22
  Obviously the way that it finished.
• 36:23
  Was shitty.
• 36:24
  And so I think there's still a lot of things that need to be kind of
• 36:28
  ironed out, but it's interesting.
• 36:31
  And to your point, there's no way.
• 36:33
  I don't think this many Americans would be on the F1 bandwagon without that show.
• 36:38
  Because right now I think there's rumor that the Las Vegas race next
• 36:42
  year could possibly be bigger, more expensive than Monaco.
• 36:46
  Oh, I believe it.
• 36:47
  I believe that a hundred percent.
• 36:48
  And that's drive to survive.
• 36:50
  Yeah.
• 36:51
  Yeah, 100%.
• 36:52
  Here's my problem.
• 36:53
  We've gone to some F1 races in person.
• 36:55
  I still watch them occasionally.
• 36:57
  Again, I don't subscribe or watch Drive to Survive.
• 37:00
  But what I take away from that is there's all that hype and the
• 37:03
  drama, and it keeps the excitement going throughout the season.
• 37:05
  But if you take that away, Formula One is still boring.
• 37:09
  The racing to me is not as exciting.
• 37:12
  Some of the other disciplines like MotoGP, like WEC or IMSA, or some of
• 37:17
  the other ones where there are these real battles and you're rooting for
• 37:20
  a manufacturer that you can identify.
• 37:23
  Because if you can tell me the difference between the Alpha Tari,
• 37:26
  the Red Bull and the Toro Rosso.
• 37:28
  God bless you.
• 37:28
  Because to me, it's like watching Spec Miata racing.
• 37:31
  They're all the same.
• 37:32
  Well, I'll say this is kind of where we come in.
• 37:35
  We care deeply about the individuals as well, which makes the sport not so boring
• 37:40
  for us because we're like, we want to know what Pierre's doing the whole weekend.
• 37:44
  We want to see what outfits Lewis is wearing to the track because like we care
• 37:49
  about not just the action on the track.
• 37:52
  Like we care about everyone involved in the sport as well, which.
• 37:56
  Gives us a lot of content to talk about, right?
• 37:58
  Like we talk about the wives and the girlfriends and we talk about
• 38:02
  things like peripheral people in the sport, like their trainers.
• 38:05
  And like, if we were just watching for the racing, yeah, I'd probably
• 38:09
  be pretty bored, but the fact that we have kind of an emotional investment
• 38:13
  into the people behind the sport.
• 38:15
  Gives more value to the sport as a whole.
• 38:19
  I think it's like priorities and true interests and like
• 38:22
  what you care about the most.
• 38:23
  And like, I think that if you're someone that really cares about cars
• 38:27
  and auto manufacturers and evolution in that space, then yeah, Formula
• 38:33
  One probably right now is super boring because they have cost caps.
• 38:36
  They have only a certain number of manufacturers.
• 38:38
  They have all these things that's like, there's not a ton
• 38:41
  of innovation happening, really.
• 38:42
  So I can see why you might be bored by that, but I think that if you're kind
• 38:46
  of in it for the lighter side and for the people, then it's not super boring.
• 38:51
  So I think it's just kind of which way you're looking at the sport from for that.
• 38:56
  So here's what you have to do, Eric.
• 38:58
  You only need to watch like the first 10 laps.
• 39:01
  It's super exciting.
• 39:02
  You're like, damn it.
• 39:03
  Ferrari's got this.
• 39:05
  They're going to do it.
• 39:06
  And then some shit happens and then you're done watching.
• 39:08
  You can just walk away.
• 39:09
  Exactly.
• 39:11
  Yeah.
• 39:11
  And then maybe the last lap, just in case, just in case.
• 39:15
  And I can watch that dude on YouTube and that's all I need.
• 39:17
  He does the funny impressions.
• 39:18
  Exactly.
• 39:21
  He's so funny.
• 39:22
  I'm a little jaded because I grew up in a certain era, the groupie rally era, the.
• 39:27
  Group C prototype era and Formula One at the height of Senna and Prost.
• 39:32
  There didn't need to be drive sur survive back then.
• 39:35
  You knew that every event Prost and Senna were literally like good and evil.
• 39:40
  They were trying to take each other out all the time and you could see it in
• 39:44
  their driving and you could see it in the post session interviews and this stuff.
• 39:47
  There was just this anger.
• 39:49
  There was this angst and there was this emotion that was captured
• 39:52
  without the need of all the drama.
• 39:53
  But then again, that was the eighties and the nineties.
• 39:55
  And it was a totally different time.
• 39:57
  Right.
• 39:57
  So I get it.
• 39:58
  I get it, but it does kind of lend us into talking about the past.
• 40:04
  Yeah.
• 40:04
  So has your increased interest in formula one in the modern era, have
• 40:10
  you thought about going back in time and seeing where its origins are from,
• 40:14
  you know, some vintage F1 and not even just the racing itself, which I know is
• 40:18
  what Eric would you be interested in.
• 40:20
  But like, there's a lot of drama back then as well.
• 40:22
  I mean, with the louder and hunt and, you know, and prost and Senna, I mean, have
• 40:27
  you gone back and looked at any of that?
• 40:29
  Yeah.
• 40:29
  I don't know if you can see, I have this photo of James hunt on my thing here, but
• 40:34
  we have a friend, Elizabeth Blackstack.
• 40:36
  I don't know if you are familiar with her.
• 40:38
  We had a conversation with her.
• 40:39
  So she is a huge vintage F1 fan.
• 40:43
  She says.
• 40:44
  Really solidified for her was Rush seeing Chris Hemsworth
• 40:47
  play James Hunt was it for her.
• 40:50
  And so we had her on, we used to stream on Twitch over the summer and she
• 40:55
  came on and did a whole presentation for us on all of her vintage F1 fits.
• 40:59
  And we looked at all of the drivers and all of the best
• 41:02
  outfits from all of the eras.
• 41:03
  That was really fun for us.
• 41:05
  And I think we're starting to explore the more historical side of F1 because
• 41:10
  obviously we're in it all the time, but as we continue to grow and learn
• 41:14
  with our community, we're like, okay, well, let's take a step back and like,
• 41:16
  see how we got to where we are today.
• 41:19
  Leaning into that and learning more about the different eras of the cars is
• 41:23
  something I think we're looking forward to exploring more during the off season.
• 41:29
  So if you guys.
• 41:29
  Caught up on any of the documentaries that are out there on some of the older stuff.
• 41:33
  Like, okay, you could loosely say Rush Hunt vs.
• 41:36
  Lada.
• 41:37
  Definitely a good film to watch.
• 41:38
  Like, Netflix has got a couple.
• 41:40
  They've got the Senna documentary that goes over that.
• 41:42
  I don't know if you guys have seen that.
• 41:44
  Yep.
• 41:44
  Yeah.
• 41:44
  Then there's even the older one, I think it's still out there, the
• 41:46
  one Manuel Fangio documentary.
• 41:48
  I haven't seen that one.
• 41:50
  So that's even, that's like origin story.
• 41:52
  Way back, yeah.
• 41:52
  Essentially.
• 41:53
  So that'd be another good one if you're looking to.
• 41:55
  And you know what's really great about the Fangio documentary, which
• 41:58
  I wrote an article about a couple years ago when it came out, it debuted
• 42:01
  right at the beginning of COVID.
• 42:03
  And one of the things they did in that episode is one of our
• 42:06
  new favorite Pit Stop questions, which is goat or goatee fee.
• 42:10
  And so they ask a lot of the drivers who is the greatest of all time.
• 42:14
  So I want to pose that question to you guys as well.
• 42:16
  Whatever you think that definition is.
• 42:18
  And the answer is not goateefy.
• 42:21
  Everybody has an opinion about who, or it could be goateefy.
• 42:25
  I saw that you all think the goateefy is quite attractive and you're, you're,
• 42:28
  let me tell you, we saw him in person and yeah, we saw, we saw him and
• 42:33
  we're like, so he's, he's one of those people that's better looking in person.
• 42:35
  Yes.
• 42:36
  Yeah.
• 42:36
  Okay.
• 42:36
  Yes.
• 42:37
  Well, I have to say from the images that you all sourced for your
• 42:40
  Instagram posts, they were quite.
• 42:42
  Favorable to him, I would say.
• 42:45
  Streamer Nikki really has got it going on.
• 42:48
  I'm like, what is it, DJ Lando?
• 42:50
  DJ Little Landy, as we call him.
• 42:53
  Okay, to answer the question about who the greatest of all time is, I think,
• 42:57
  honestly, I'm torn between Schumacher and Senna, just because I think...
• 43:02
  That they had such a cultural impact on the sport, you know, you bring up
• 43:06
  Michael Schumacher to almost anyone and they know that name doesn't
• 43:11
  matter if they even know that he was a Formula One driver, like they most
• 43:14
  certainly like know who that person is.
• 43:18
  And even just looking at his record of being the most winningest F1 driver tied
• 43:22
  with Lewis is really, I think, it for me.
• 43:25
  And Senna obviously was, it's a shame that he had to leave us so early
• 43:30
  because I can only imagine what he would have been able to accomplish.
• 43:33
  And I would also be between two people.
• 43:36
  Neither of the two that Nicole just said, I totally agree with what she just said.
• 43:40
  And I think that like Michael Schumacher is a very obvious,
• 43:43
  like, that's probably who's the greatest of all time in the sport.
• 43:46
  But for me, okay, well I kind of have three, so I'm really
• 43:50
  not paying my name right.
• 43:52
  Number one, from a long time ago, I would say Nicky Lauda.
• 43:55
  Like I love his story.
• 43:57
  I think that he was an incredible driver, but I also just think he was
• 44:00
  an incredible mind for Formula One.
• 44:02
  And I think that he was.
• 44:04
  So talented on the track, but equally, if not more talented off the track
• 44:09
  and the way that he was able to work on the cars and figure things out
• 44:12
  and be like, you're doing this wrong.
• 44:14
  And I can make this go faster.
• 44:16
  Just let me do it.
• 44:17
  And then to be able to come back and like, have such a long career.
• 44:22
  Staying in Formula One, being an advisor, just working with these different teams.
• 44:26
  And I think it just goes to show like the fact that he was still
• 44:30
  working with Mercedes when he died is just like a testament to
• 44:35
  how valuable he was to the sport.
• 44:38
  My second choice is Kimi Raikkonen.
• 44:40
  Not just because he was my favorite, but I just think he's the GOAT.
• 44:44
  Like he came in first season was just like, what if I just won?
• 44:49
  Everything incredible.
• 44:50
  And then he was like, all right, I'm going to fuck off for a couple of years and
• 44:53
  like, try something else just for fun.
• 44:55
  Comes back almost completely bankrupt Lotus because he's so fast.
• 45:00
  They were like, we don't really know what to do because we don't have
• 45:03
  enough money to pay you everything that we promised we would based
• 45:06
  on how many points you would get.
• 45:07
  Then he's just like, I don't know.
• 45:09
  Maybe I don't want to do this anymore.
• 45:10
  Goes on, just like continues winning, continues being amazing.
• 45:14
  And then just like decides to leave when, when he decided to leave and was
• 45:17
  just like, you'll never see me again.
• 45:19
  And we basically have it.
• 45:21
  And I think he's been like one race, but he was like, I'm done.
• 45:24
  I'm out of here.
• 45:24
  And he, he was a funny person.
• 45:26
  He was a funny like character in the paddock, kept to himself,
• 45:29
  always kept it interesting, but also didn't like subscribe to.
• 45:33
  The evolution of F1 and was just like, I don't do media.
• 45:37
  Actually, I don't want to do that.
• 45:38
  And I won't be on social media.
• 45:39
  You can try, but I'm not giving you anything.
• 45:42
  And I think he just stuck true to who he was.
• 45:44
  And so I think he just personality wise, greatest of all time.
• 45:48
  And then my.
• 45:48
  Final person that I would put on this list that I think years from now we will say
• 45:53
  greatest of all time is Lewis Hamilton.
• 45:54
  And I think that he's had to do things in this sport that no one before
• 45:58
  him has ever, ever, ever had to do.
• 46:00
  He's had to overcome so much and he's also been the biggest star in the time frame
• 46:07
  of F1 where F1 is Global on social media.
• 46:10
  It's 24 7.
• 46:12
  You're not just being looked at through the eyes of a newspaper
• 46:15
  or a camera crew on the weekends.
• 46:18
  And, you know, people that are there, but you're being looked at by everyone all
• 46:22
  the time, no matter what you're doing.
• 46:24
  And I think he's handled it really well and has had incredible
• 46:27
  results and has kind of always.
• 46:30
  done things with grace.
• 46:31
  And so I think that in 20 years from now, when we look back and ask
• 46:35
  people this question, he'll be one of the top names that people say.
• 46:39
  I mean, I don't disagree.
• 46:42
  It sounds like you might.
• 46:44
  I mean, just a, just a touch.
• 46:45
  I mean, Hamilton has had an interesting evolution because if
• 46:49
  you go back to the early days.
• 46:51
  Especially when he was a young pup and they had him on top gear, you know, a
• 46:55
  star at a reasonably priced car and things like that when he was first starting out,
• 46:58
  he was very different than he is now.
• 47:01
  Right.
• 47:01
  And they say money changes people and fame and celebrity as well.
• 47:04
  And then there was that kind of dark period in the middle of
• 47:07
  his career where he was like, I don't want to talk to anybody.
• 47:09
  He's very standoffish.
• 47:10
  And he was trying to be like Senna because Senna was very closed.
• 47:14
  He was very reserved.
• 47:16
  Senna didn't talk a big game.
• 47:17
  He would show up and just kick ass.
• 47:19
  And that's The, his style, but Senna is still, and I think always will be
• 47:23
  regarded as like a God and not a goat.
• 47:27
  Like he was super human.
• 47:28
  Oh, you're adding a new category.
• 47:30
  Okay.
• 47:32
  100%.
• 47:32
  And even somebody like Tanner Faust, who just recently drove
• 47:36
  Senna's McLaren MP4 on a test day.
• 47:39
  He got out of the car.
• 47:39
  He goes, I don't know how this guy did it.
• 47:41
  Yeah.
• 47:41
  He was super human.
• 47:42
  The thing about Schumacher to Nicole's point is that he was.
• 47:47
  Always in Senna's shadow, he was studying Senna and he became good.
• 47:52
  He had a lot of time in the trenches, but what offset Schumacher
• 47:56
  as not a God or even a goat, he's like a national treasure.
• 48:00
  He was adopted by the Italian people, right?
• 48:04
  And so he's this like point of national pride.
• 48:07
  And there's just, he's an idol.
• 48:08
  It's totally different.
• 48:10
  So he has the merit and the resume to be a goat.
• 48:14
  Again, I think he's in a different category.
• 48:16
  Just like Fangio's in a different category, like Lauda and Hunt.
• 48:20
  They got the records and the personality and the panache, but
• 48:23
  they're not, it's not quite there.
• 48:25
  Right.
• 48:25
  And there's other names that go there, even Andretti, Fittipaldi and others that
• 48:29
  are Formula One champions, but it's just like, there's these, these other levels.
• 48:33
  I think Hamilton's almost there.
• 48:35
  What hurt him?
• 48:36
  Is the 10 years that he's been doing this and how much he hasn't stayed the same.
• 48:42
  Senna stayed the same.
• 48:43
  Schumacher stayed the same.
• 48:44
  Fangio was always Fangio to your point about Kimmy, where Kimmy's
• 48:49
  Kimmy and he always will be Kimmy.
• 48:50
  Yeah.
• 48:52
  So that's where I, I kind of diverge on that, but you're, you're making
• 48:55
  very valid points across the board.
• 48:56
  But Hamilton.
• 48:58
  Has had to change because of the way the world has changed over the
• 49:02
  last and the way he's gone from just like an F1 champion and superstar
• 49:09
  to like a social justice hero for the people that don't have a voice.
• 49:13
  And he's using his voice for that.
• 49:15
  And I, you know, so he's using the platform and, you know, Ecclestone's gone.
• 49:19
  So the collar's off and now people can do what they want.
• 49:22
  And he's using his platform.
• 49:24
  To try and do good in the world.
• 49:26
  So that's, he probably would have been doing those things before if he
• 49:30
  was able to, I'm going to be honest.
• 49:32
  I didn't love Lewis that much when he was Nico's teammate.
• 49:36
  I just thought this guy is insufferable.
• 49:38
  I didn't particularly enjoy his personality.
• 49:41
  And then he did.
• 49:42
  I watched that show.
• 49:45
  Is it Larry David?
• 49:46
  I'm trying to think.
• 49:46
  And my next guest is who is that?
• 49:48
  David Letterman.
• 49:49
  David Letterman.
• 49:50
  I would love to see Larry David.
• 49:52
  Sorry.
• 49:53
  I was like a late night host.
• 49:54
  I could not remember.
• 49:55
  David Letterman.
• 49:56
  And my next guest is, and Lewis was on it and I watched it and it was
• 50:00
  kind of a different side to him.
• 50:01
  And I think that was kind of a turning point for him where
• 50:04
  they were kind of like, we're changing your PR and we're like.
• 50:07
  Diving deep into like this softer, more personal side of you.
• 50:12
  And ever since then, I feel like he has been a different person who has
• 50:17
  been more outspoken about his struggles and other people's struggles to your
• 50:20
  point, Brad, about like being a voice for people who don't necessarily have
• 50:25
  access to the platform that he does.
• 50:26
  Speaking of insufferable people, uh, Russell, his teammate, that's personal
• 50:33
  opinion, but yes, and he might be the answer to this question, but I doubt it.
• 50:38
  Sexiest F1 driver of all time.
• 50:41
  Let me tell you, I saw Jensen Button in person in the paddock in Austin, and I was
• 50:47
  like, Yeah, that man is handsome as fuck.
• 50:51
  He's tall, too.
• 50:53
  And I was just like, yeah, he's top of the list for me right now.
• 50:56
  But Mark Webber also is really up there, too.
• 50:59
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:01
  A young Jackie X.
• 51:03
  will always do it for me.
• 51:04
  I'm too busy like choking down my laughter over here because I can guess for Tanya
• 51:09
  who it is and it's not Ayrton Senna.
• 51:12
  It's Nigel Mansell.
• 51:13
  She loves that Tom Selleck mustache, broom mustache.
• 51:18
  Well, Kate and I were literally talking earlier today about we need
• 51:22
  the return of the short shorts.
• 51:24
  Yes.
• 51:26
  David Coulthard.
• 51:27
  No.
• 51:28
  Yes.
• 51:28
  The chin.
• 51:29
  It's the chin.
• 51:30
  It is quite impressive.
• 51:31
  I did walk by him one time.
• 51:33
  But, no.
• 51:35
  I can't say David Coulthard is the sexiest epilogue I know.
• 51:38
  I can't say that.
• 51:39
  No.
• 51:40
  In full confidence.
• 51:40
  But I also will say, young Jackie Ickx, I love him, but also, and I'm gonna
• 51:45
  bring him up again, Kimi Raikkonen, he went through a phase when he was
• 51:50
  younger, he had longer blonde hair that it was sometimes spiked, sometimes
• 51:54
  not, sometimes just a little bit long.
• 51:55
  There is one photo of him wearing a White wife beater, tight pants, and a fur coat.
• 52:02
  I don't know if you can say that, Kate.
• 52:03
  I don't know if we call them that anymore.
• 52:05
  I don't know what else we call them.
• 52:07
  Dang dog?
• 52:09
  It's a wife beater, sorry.
• 52:10
  Um, I'm not saying character wise, but that's what they're called.
• 52:16
  And it's like the best photo I've ever seen.
• 52:19
  And he went through a big fashion phase.
• 52:20
  So he's my favorite.
• 52:21
  And I think he's so sexy.
• 52:23
  Kimmy was, you guys got to go back in time.
• 52:26
  Take a look at Eddie Irvine and Alex Zanardi and Damon Hill.
• 52:31
  And some of those guys, Damon Hill is here's the thing.
• 52:35
  Here's the thing you asked for the sexiest.
• 52:36
  And I'm answering, I'm surprised you didn't say Leclerc.
• 52:40
  He's beautiful.
• 52:40
  Okay.
• 52:41
  I think he's like, yeah, he's like, he's not sexy though.
• 52:43
  He needs a couple more years to mature into himself.
• 52:47
  Yeah.
• 52:48
  I'm like, I think he's like too young for me to say that he's like the sexiest.
• 52:51
  His personality ruins it.
• 52:53
  For me though, I don't like the clerk as a person.
• 52:57
  All right.
• 52:58
  So before a fight starts, has F1 changed your appreciation of the car hobby?
• 53:09
  Nicole, you said at the beginning, you weren't really interested in
• 53:11
  cars when this all first came about.
• 53:14
  So has your opinion changed a little bit?
• 53:16
  My ex used to play this game where he would just see a sports car on the street
• 53:20
  and he would be like, do you think I would be hotter if I drove Car and I
• 53:24
  would always be like, no, because I don't care about sports cars that much.
• 53:29
  I still don't particularly care that much.
• 53:32
  I don't think anytime soon I'm going to get into like rebuilding my own car, but
• 53:36
  I think that I have learned a lot more.
• 53:40
  about the car hobby.
• 53:42
  There's so much going on that I simply don't have time to dive too
• 53:47
  deep into all of this because I will literally not have a life if I do that.
• 53:51
  You've just defined our entire show.
• 53:54
  Yeah.
• 53:54
  I still have to do other things and so that's the extent of my car hobby.
• 54:01
  situation.
• 54:02
  What about you Kate?
• 54:02
  Pretty much the same.
• 54:03
  I've never been super, super into cars.
• 54:06
  I think I have an appreciation for like nice vintage cars now.
• 54:10
  Like I think like looking at them, I'm like, I can recognize more cars on the
• 54:13
  street and be like, Oh, that's this.
• 54:16
  That's cool.
• 54:17
  Or like, Oh, that looks like an old version of like this kind of car.
• 54:21
  And like, I know that that's cool, but like, I can't totally tell you why.
• 54:25
  Nothing crazy.
• 54:27
  Like I'm like, I can tell that something is like a Corvette
• 54:30
  and like, that's pretty easy.
• 54:32
  But I did buy my first car, owned a car before, but I bought a car by myself.
• 54:36
  For the first time ever this summer.
• 54:38
  And I did get the sport version.
• 54:41
  Um, so I feel like I probably wouldn't have done that if I wasn't into F1.
• 54:46
  I'm not going to ask you what it was.
• 54:48
  I don't want to embarrass you.
• 54:50
  Oh, no, it's a cool car.
• 54:51
  I love it.
• 54:52
  Tell you it's a Hyundai Tucson 2022, the end line, which is their sport version.
• 54:57
  It has nice red piping around it for Ferrari for me.
• 55:00
  And it has sports mode that if I want to go, I can click a little
• 55:04
  button and I'm in sports mode.
• 55:08
  Yeah.
• 55:08
  That's what DRS is enabled.
• 55:09
  Exactly.
• 55:11
  It's your encyclopedia of car design is.
• 55:17
  to the hobby.
• 55:18
  Normally, we would ask people, you know, sexiest car of all time to kind
• 55:21
  of go in line with our sexiest F1 drivers that we were talking about.
• 55:24
  I think it might be easier to ask you this other fan favorite.
• 55:28
  What's the ugliest car?
• 55:29
  Kia Soul.
• 55:30
  Damn, that was fast!
• 55:31
  I was first.
• 55:32
  You guys, I'm sorry.
• 55:34
  Was that your first car?
• 55:36
  No, I just think they're so, so hideous.
• 55:39
  Like, you're never, ever, ever, ever, ever Ever going to see
• 55:42
  a normal colored Kia Soul.
• 55:43
  It is always going to be that pukey lime green.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:46
  Or shit brown.
• 55:47
  Yeah.
• 55:48
  It's just always the ugliest color.
• 55:51
  And I'm just like, who's buying these?
• 55:53
  Like, how did they get you to buy this car?
• 55:55
  It's so hideous.
• 55:56
  All I can think about is that when I was looking to buy a car
• 55:59
  this summer, I test drove one.
• 56:01
  It was this horrible red.
• 56:02
  It was like bright, bright, bright red, but it was, it was, Oh my God.
• 56:06
  It had this weird shimmer to it.
• 56:08
  I hated it so much.
• 56:09
  And they were like, this is the only one of these we have, like this car
• 56:12
  that's like here because there's like no cars anymore because there's import
• 56:16
  craziness happening, I don't know.
• 56:18
  And I was like, okay, I love it, but I.
• 56:21
  hate this color.
• 56:22
  And the guy was like, well, when you're driving it, you
• 56:24
  won't even know that it's red.
• 56:25
  You're like, that's not the point.
• 56:27
  And I was like, that's a horrible, horrible, horrible
• 56:29
  sales tactic to say to me.
• 56:30
  I'm not, I'm relying on principle now because you just said that
• 56:33
  to me, but that's how I feel like they get people to buy Kia Souls.
• 56:36
  They're like, you can basically have this for free.
• 56:39
  You just have to know that it's puke green with shit brown interior.
• 56:44
  I'll pay you to take this Kia.
• 56:45
  Literally, they're like, please take this from us.
• 56:49
  I think that's a pretty good one.
• 56:50
  I don't know if I feel as passionately about any, I feel more
• 56:56
  passionately towards colors of cars.
• 56:58
  And I really hate when people have like burnt orange, because I'm like,
• 57:02
  why would you choose that color out of all of the colors that you could
• 57:04
  have possibly gotten for a car?
• 57:06
  It's like the number one color that the Honda Element was sold in.
• 57:10
  So ugly.
• 57:12
  So, I, I think Kia Soul, yeah, I'd probably, cause I just
• 57:15
  think of the hamster commercial.
• 57:17
  I'm like, which isn't even a good commercial.
• 57:19
  Like, how does that help sales?
• 57:21
  I'm like, you're getting weird hip hop hamster rats.
• 57:24
  Like, why are we, what's the, what are you trying the rapper on the playstation.
• 57:29
  Yeah.
• 57:30
  Who is the market for that commercial?
• 57:31
  Yeah, exactly.
• 57:32
  Clearly at work, people are still buying Kia Souls today.
• 57:34
  So everybody that surrounds Kate is buying Kia Souls.
• 57:37
  It's because they've been sitting on the last.
• 57:38
  For so long.
• 57:39
  There's nothing else to buy.
• 57:40
  There's nothing else.
• 57:42
  I know.
• 57:42
  I'm like, I'm on Cape Cod.
• 57:43
  So I'm in like retirement country too.
• 57:45
  I'm like, this is old people, bamboo.
• 57:48
  They're, they're just getting swindled into these Kia Solas.
• 57:50
  It's like a bait and switch.
• 57:52
  They were guaranteed one car and then they got delivered a Kia.
• 57:54
  They don't know what to do about it, so they just keep it.
• 57:56
  I'd know it.
• 57:57
  There's no one out there that's willingly buying a Kia Soul, and if you're one
• 58:00
  of those people, please contact me.
• 58:02
  I have to talk to you.
• 58:04
  It's our next crossover episode, we're doing that one together.
• 58:08
  It's an intervention for anyone who's bought a Kia Soul.
• 58:12
  You need to like, talk to the president of the Kia Soul fan club or something.
• 58:15
  I guarantee you there is one.
• 58:17
  There is one, for sure.
• 58:18
  There has to be one out there.
• 58:19
  I'm going to bring them to therapy with me and be like, I need to
• 58:21
  get to the bottom of your brain.
• 58:24
  So back on topic, as we're closing out the 2022 season, what
• 58:29
  are some of the best moments?
• 58:30
  Worst moments in your opinion?
• 58:32
  Great question.
• 58:33
  Best outfits, worst outfits.
• 58:35
  It's so funny.
• 58:35
  Cause we actually just ran this poll on our Instagram where we were
• 58:39
  like over the 2020 season, what were the best moments for everyone?
• 58:43
  Obviously, I think one of the ones that comes to mind is Danny
• 58:47
  arriving in Austin on the horse.
• 58:49
  You know, I'm going to really miss his theatrics in the paddock when he's gone.
• 58:54
  Thinking about, you know, one of the most impactful moments for me personally.
• 58:59
  Was Joe's crash where he flipped over and then basically like
• 59:04
  slid into the barricades.
• 59:05
  That's right.
• 59:06
  He ended up over the barricade.
• 59:08
  And then George got out of his car and like ran over and was like trying
• 59:13
  to call for help and was like, didn't leave until someone had gotten there.
• 59:17
  That was.
• 59:17
  That moment was crazy.
• 59:19
  Huge moment about like the safety features that had been implemented in the sport
• 59:23
  and just proving that these are necessary and like how life saving they actually
• 59:29
  are because he would have been so dead if the halos had not been implemented.
• 59:33
  And so for me, that was very cool to see.
• 59:36
  Even though the drivers rallied against the Halo for so long, I think they're
• 59:41
  finally like, okay, this has saved people's lives a handful of times.
• 59:45
  Yeah.
• 59:45
  I think we can get over it.
• 59:47
  So that was a really, really memorable moment from this season.
• 59:51
  For me, I loved when Charles was leading the championship for a little bit.
• 59:54
  You know, there was a, there was like a month or so that he was doing that.
• 59:58
  And that was huge for me.
• 1:00:00
  And also I loved the return of Kevin Magnuson.
• 1:00:03
  Like, I mean, best part of the season was when they said, Nikita
• 1:00:06
  Mazepin, isn't coming back.
• 1:00:09
  Number one, like no questions about it.
• 1:00:12
  Them saying he's been terminated really did it for me.
• 1:00:16
  But then them bringing Kevin Magnuson back, I was like, Oh, Hey, Megan
• 1:00:19
  Gunther back together, getting the gang, the band back together.
• 1:00:23
  It was like really great for me.
• 1:00:25
  And then the second best announcement was Latifi leaving.
• 1:00:28
  I mean.
• 1:00:29
  We were all waiting for it.
• 1:00:30
  It's time for him to go.
• 1:00:31
  It's time for him to go it.
• 1:00:33
  It's pretty sad when your backup driver, you know, comes in for your teammate who's
• 1:00:37
  out in appendicitis and scores points.
• 1:00:39
  Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  It's so tough on his maiden F1 race.
• 1:00:43
  Exactly.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Lat, you know what?
• 1:00:44
  I'm glad that Latifee was in F1 for the Solf fact that he kept
• 1:00:47
  Williams of float for a while.
• 1:00:49
  Mm-Hmm.
• 1:00:49
  And they really needed that . Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  So thank you to Latia for that, but time to go.
• 1:00:54
  Time for you to move on.
• 1:00:55
  . Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  And that brings us to it's amazing.
• 1:00:59
  They still exist.
• 1:01:00
  So let's talk about the Toad, Haas, and Christian Horner.
• 1:01:03
  Let's talk about it.
• 1:01:05
  Brad's three favorite things.
• 1:01:07
  No, I talked about rich energy all the time.
• 1:01:10
  What's the difference?
• 1:01:11
  Same.
• 1:01:12
  We're new to MoneyGram.
• 1:01:13
  We talked about MoneyGram.
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, that's their new, their new sponsor.
• 1:01:17
  Probably nobody has kind words to say about any of those three.
• 1:01:20
  No, here's the thing.
• 1:01:21
  I'm actually an advocate for Haas.
• 1:01:23
  We love Haas.
• 1:01:24
  Here's why, and you'll learn this in Drive to Survive if you watch it, Eric.
• 1:01:28
  Gunther is a girl boss, okay?
• 1:01:30
  Oh, Gunther's awesome.
• 1:01:32
  Gunther said, I'm gonna be a team principal if it's
• 1:01:36
  the last thing that I do.
• 1:01:37
  And he put his ass into gear and he convinced Gene Haas.
• 1:01:42
  To buy a team and make him the team principal.
• 1:01:45
  He seems like the most unlikely team principal person too.
• 1:01:48
  With no prior experience, no qualifications, he was
• 1:01:52
  just like, I want this.
• 1:01:53
  He was like an engineer, so he kind of has a little bit of experience, but
• 1:01:57
  he basically was like, you know what?
• 1:01:59
  I'm going to fast track this and I'm just going to get someone
• 1:02:01
  else to buy a team for me.
• 1:02:03
  He's basically like the Lance Stroll of team principals, where he went to
• 1:02:08
  Gene Haas, got him to buy the team and install him as the team principal.
• 1:02:11
  And so I appreciate that about Gunther and I appreciate that about Haas.
• 1:02:15
  I think Gunther continuously gets the shit beat out of him
• 1:02:19
  by how horrible his team is.
• 1:02:21
  Still, he rises in the words of Lewis.
• 1:02:24
  And I just appreciate that about him.
• 1:02:26
  I also think Haas has no pretenses.
• 1:02:28
  They're not trying to be better than they are.
• 1:02:31
  They know that they suck.
• 1:02:32
  They're not gonna ever say they're better than anyone.
• 1:02:35
  Or like, any of them.
• 1:02:35
  The bestest season when Gunther was like, Oh, they're talking about me?
• 1:02:39
  That just means that they're jealous.
• 1:02:40
  When Haas was like, doing well for a little bit.
• 1:02:42
  He's like, If there's rumors starting about me, that means that I'm doing well.
• 1:02:45
  So keep talking.
• 1:02:46
  He was like, no presses, bad press, baby.
• 1:02:48
  And then they're like, what if we took sponsorship money from these like tiny
• 1:02:51
  boats in like weird houses and we just like take pictures in front of them?
• 1:02:54
  They're like, we're not too good to That was for the Aldi catalog.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  They're like, we're not too good to take some photos for Aldi.
• 1:03:01
  Like, Haas is never going to say that they're too good for something.
• 1:03:04
  And I appreciate them for being self aware and just being like, we're the shitty
• 1:03:08
  team and we're going to do what it takes.
• 1:03:10
  But on the other side of that coin is Williams, who needs to fess up and quit
• 1:03:14
  being in denial about how they suck too, but they have a ton of pedigree
• 1:03:19
  behind them and actually Haas does as well, because if you go back in time and
• 1:03:22
  look at when it used to be Newman Haas racing, especially stateside and things
• 1:03:26
  like that, there is a lot of background to that brand and to that family name.
• 1:03:30
  But to your point, I mean, we're talking at the.
• 1:03:32
  The bottom of the bottom.
• 1:03:33
  So what do you think about them potentially becoming someone else?
• 1:03:37
  You know, there's all these rumors about Audi and Porsche and all this,
• 1:03:40
  all these musical chairs going on.
• 1:03:42
  I think that there'll be Haas for at least another couple of seasons until Jean is.
• 1:03:47
  Like, I have absolutely no more money to give to this team.
• 1:03:50
  I have nothing left to give.
• 1:03:52
  Andretti can come buy it.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  And then everyone's going to say, no, Andretti, you cannot join F1.
• 1:03:57
  It doesn't matter, right?
• 1:03:58
  Because they got a team and then they don't have to worry about the money
• 1:04:01
  because they don't have drivers.
• 1:04:02
  So they can hire.
• 1:04:03
  Mario Andretti, we already saw that at Laguna Seca.
• 1:04:06
  Might as well put him in the seat and start the Andretti franchise that way.
• 1:04:10
  Haas is like so dysfunctional, right?
• 1:04:12
  I mean, to go beyond what Kate was saying.
• 1:04:14
  Let's go there.
• 1:04:16
  You know, we already talked about he might spin or excuse me, Maza spin.
• 1:04:19
  Mick Schumacher is on the unemployment line right next to Danny Rick.
• 1:04:23
  I know.
• 1:04:24
  Kate and I just talked about that earlier today.
• 1:04:26
  We recorded our weekly episode and we were just saying not looking good for Mick.
• 1:04:31
  So in the beginning of the season, yeah, there was a lot of crashing, but
• 1:04:35
  he's actually been doing really well.
• 1:04:37
  He hasn't done that bad.
• 1:04:39
  And Gunther basically gave him the ultimatum is that he had
• 1:04:41
  to win a race to stay at Haas.
• 1:04:43
  And you're like, that's not even possible.
• 1:04:47
  Like you're asking him to do the impossible here.
• 1:04:50
  But is it though?
• 1:04:52
  Because we speculated about this on several drive thru episodes where we said.
• 1:04:56
  What if you put Lewis or put Max in the Haas car to prove whether
• 1:05:00
  it's the drivers or the chassis?
• 1:05:02
  Okay, well look at how Lewis has been doing in his current car.
• 1:05:06
  I do not think that he would do well in the Haas at all.
• 1:05:10
  There's no way.
• 1:05:10
  There's no way.
• 1:05:11
  The Red Bull is like...
• 1:05:13
  Cheater program they've got in it.
• 1:05:14
  Like, yeah, I think Max is.
• 1:05:16
  And so this is why I think Kate and I have talked about this.
• 1:05:18
  Why George is 15 points ahead of Lewis is that George came from a shitty car.
• 1:05:23
  He's here to go from shitty to good, then good to shitty.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  And so he knows he's like, this is an increase.
• 1:05:29
  Like, this is 10 times better than what I've been working with,
• 1:05:31
  so I can work magic on this.
• 1:05:33
  Meanwhile, Louis is so used to being ahead and winning, he doesn't
• 1:05:36
  know how to be in the middle of the pack in a kind of shitty car.
• 1:05:40
  Okay, so we'll flip it the other way.
• 1:05:42
  You put Mick On the test track in a Mercedes and all you need
• 1:05:46
  to do is look at his lap times.
• 1:05:47
  If he can't qualify at the same level as the current drivers of those cars,
• 1:05:52
  then is it the driver or the car?
• 1:05:53
  I mean, the proof goes either way.
• 1:05:55
  Well, to your point, it's harder to put Max in the Haas because the Haas
• 1:05:58
  is basically handicapped compared to the rest of the cars in the fleet.
• 1:06:02
  But again, if we flip it the other way on a private testing day.
• 1:06:05
  And he can't put the numbers down, then he's not qualified to be there.
• 1:06:09
  I agree with that.
• 1:06:10
  And I think that that would be a fantastic way to judge people.
• 1:06:14
  Everyone gets the same car.
• 1:06:15
  It's how it used to be done.
• 1:06:16
  Just throw it out there.
• 1:06:19
  Bring it back.
• 1:06:20
  Bring it back.
• 1:06:21
  We'll start the petition.
• 1:06:22
  There's a lot of upheaval.
• 1:06:23
  I mean, that's my outlook on the 2022 season with a lot of names disappearing.
• 1:06:28
  Who's going to be filling those seats?
• 1:06:29
  Again, you got Audi and Porsche can't figure out.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  Well, no, I mean, well, Porsche.
• 1:06:34
  Played a game that they lost at and now they they're crying and
• 1:06:37
  they want back at the table.
• 1:06:39
  Audi is committed.
• 1:06:40
  I was going to say, isn't Audi coming in with a Red Bull?
• 1:06:43
  Did it?
• 1:06:44
  Sauber.
• 1:06:44
  Sauber.
• 1:06:45
  Sauber.
• 1:06:46
  So in 2026, they'll be here and I can't wait because now I have to root for Audi.
• 1:06:51
  And Ferrari and be busy.
• 1:06:55
  Well, you'll just have to root for whichever one is doing better.
• 1:06:58
  Exactly.
• 1:06:58
  Whoever's in the lead I'm rooting for.
• 1:07:01
  Until they blow up.
• 1:07:02
  Twice the chances to root for a number two.
• 1:07:08
  Again, but it's chicanery all over the place.
• 1:07:10
  Cause even there, some of those petitions have been, well, we're going
• 1:07:13
  to put stickers on the blah, blah, blah chassis with the Honda power plant.
• 1:07:17
  We're like, well, is that really?
• 1:07:19
  Horseshoe?
• 1:07:20
  Like, what is that, right?
• 1:07:21
  So, I think there's a lot of, I'm gonna, I'm gonna use a football phrase.
• 1:07:25
  It's a rebuilding year.
• 1:07:26
  So, hopefully, 23 is a better year for motorsport in
• 1:07:29
  general, especially Formula 1.
• 1:07:31
  I'm really curious to see how it turns out.
• 1:07:32
  Now, granted, I have my sights on the big stage right now, because...
• 1:07:36
  Next year is the hundredth anniversary of Lamont's.
• 1:07:38
  So I think that's going to eclipse a lot of things.
• 1:07:40
  Everybody's talking about the new cars, the new cars, new cars.
• 1:07:43
  Formula one came out with their new cars this past season.
• 1:07:46
  We'll see where that goes.
• 1:07:48
  So in listening to your most recent episodes, you were doing the, uh,
• 1:07:52
  I guess the press conference, the drivers, and you all caught Pierre
• 1:07:56
  taking a picture of you guys.
• 1:07:58
  Did you happen to get a copy of that picture?
• 1:08:01
  And do we know what he was taking a picture of?
• 1:08:03
  Yes, we did get confirmation.
• 1:08:05
  He was taking his be real.
• 1:08:07
  And now I don't know if you guys know what be real is.
• 1:08:09
  It's an app that basically at some time during the day, you get a notification.
• 1:08:14
  You have two minutes to take a photo.
• 1:08:15
  The story goes, you know, as you heard in the podcast, Kate and I
• 1:08:18
  were sitting in the room, I look up.
• 1:08:20
  Pierre is taking a photo.
• 1:08:23
  We have a bit on our podcast that Pierre is TG1F's number one fan.
• 1:08:27
  He's liked a handful of our Instagram photos, and this was before the
• 1:08:31
  heyday of liked by Pierre Gasly.
• 1:08:34
  We were actually also in his Miami GP photo dump as well.
• 1:08:39
  And so we're like, Pierre loves us.
• 1:08:41
  We were joking that he obviously saw us in the press conference
• 1:08:44
  room and had to take a photo of us.
• 1:08:46
  Of course.
• 1:08:47
  You're celebrities to him.
• 1:08:48
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:08:49
  And he did post his Austin Grand Prix photo dump.
• 1:08:52
  Lo and behold, there was the be real photo.
• 1:08:54
  And there we were.
• 1:08:57
  So we're, we're two for two on USGP photo dumps for Pierre on Instagram.
• 1:09:03
  I think he is your number one thing.
• 1:09:05
  I mean, what else is there to say?
• 1:09:07
  Like he's not.
• 1:09:08
  Beating the allegations.
• 1:09:09
  Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  He's not taking pictures of other podcasts.
• 1:09:12
  No, no.
• 1:09:12
  And if he is, he's not putting them in his public photo dump.
• 1:09:18
  So you guys will be in the next roundup promise.
• 1:09:23
  So I guess shifting gears a little bit, pun intended, pun
• 1:09:26
  intended, totally not the formula.
• 1:09:29
  One cars have a traditional shifter anymore.
• 1:09:32
  It did in my day.
• 1:09:34
  I walked uphill in both directions at school.
• 1:09:36
  Shut up, Boomer.
• 1:09:37
  Old man screaming at the clouds.
• 1:09:39
  Freaking Boomer.
• 1:09:41
  I will say, I do wish they still had to use the, uh, left foot.
• 1:09:45
  Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  For clutch, because it would make the races more interesting
• 1:09:48
  when someone misses a shift.
• 1:09:49
  Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Instead of calling on the radio and whining, my shifter box,
• 1:09:53
  can you change the program?
• 1:09:55
  No . Y'all are talking about Be reals.
• 1:09:57
  Eric doesn't know what MySpace is.
• 1:10:00
  be real right now.
• 1:10:01
  You don't know what MySpace is, ? No, he does.
• 1:10:05
  Okay.
• 1:10:05
  I was like, he jokes.
• 1:10:06
  He jokes.
• 1:10:06
  I was like, we need to have a serious conversation.
• 1:10:08
  I, this, I just, I just , I refuse to do TikTok just like Dr.
• 1:10:12
  To survive.
• 1:10:15
  I don't go down that, that rabbit hole.
• 1:10:17
  I don't do Tik Tok either.
• 1:10:19
  Eric's is old fashioned is the rally that he watches.
• 1:10:23
  Rally is still a thing.
• 1:10:25
  Is it?
• 1:10:27
  Not in the U.
• 1:10:27
  S.
• 1:10:28
  When was the last time there was a U.
• 1:10:29
  S.
• 1:10:29
  rally?
• 1:10:30
  That's one of the motorsport series that I want to get into.
• 1:10:32
  I want to get into rally racing.
• 1:10:34
  It needs it.
• 1:10:34
  It needs a drive to survive.
• 1:10:36
  Any motorsport needs a drive to survive.
• 1:10:39
  I will give you the shortcuts.
• 1:10:42
  Very simple.
• 1:10:43
  Download the Red Bull app.
• 1:10:44
  They condense everything for you.
• 1:10:46
  If you want to watch the long format, you want to get in the car with the
• 1:10:49
  drivers, which is super cool to watch them and the navigators doing their thing.
• 1:10:53
  Red Bull TV, everything's shot in 8k.
• 1:10:55
  Now it's like super crystal clear.
• 1:10:57
  It is fantastic.
• 1:10:59
  And I will give you one thing.
• 1:11:00
  If you want to find a new fan, even though he retired last year and now
• 1:11:04
  he's a team principal, go back and watch the in car footage of Yari Matilapala.
• 1:11:10
  He is known as the madman of WRC for a very good reason.
• 1:11:14
  I don't want to spoil it for you.
• 1:11:15
  Okay.
• 1:11:15
  I'll get into it.
• 1:11:16
  It's awesome.
• 1:11:17
  Did you get the sense of excitement?
• 1:11:19
  I did.
• 1:11:19
  And he's sold me on it.
• 1:11:21
  So I'm going to go do that.
• 1:11:22
  And then I'm going to follow up later.
• 1:11:23
  You guys did not sell him on Drive to Survive though.
• 1:11:26
  I'm going to point that out.
• 1:11:27
  No offense.
• 1:11:29
  You know what?
• 1:11:29
  We did our best and maybe one day we'll wear him down.
• 1:11:33
  Can't teach an old dog, new tricks, you know, So speaking of old dogs and
• 1:11:40
  new tricks, besides drive to survive and all that kind of thing, you
• 1:11:43
  know, from your perspective, women in motorsport, what can be done, it's been
• 1:11:48
  traditionally kind of a boys club, right?
• 1:11:50
  The old dogs.
• 1:11:51
  How can it be more inviting in your guys opinions?
• 1:11:54
  You guys are making it more inviting with your podcast.
• 1:11:57
  Well done.
• 1:11:58
  Kudos.
• 1:11:59
  But I guess outside of that, the greater motorsports industries,
• 1:12:03
  what do you think they could do?
• 1:12:04
  I mean, I think the first thing is just visibility.
• 1:12:06
  And I think there's like There are a lot of people that are out there that
• 1:12:09
  are like, we need more women in F1.
• 1:12:11
  We need more women in F1.
• 1:12:13
  And I think that that is fair and we probably do.
• 1:12:16
  But I think even more than that, we need just visibility into the women that are
• 1:12:20
  already in F1 that are already doing the work that are already have made it there.
• 1:12:24
  And we need to kind of uplift those platforms and those women.
• 1:12:28
  I mean, the whole thing is visibility.
• 1:12:29
  If you can't see it, you can't be it.
• 1:12:31
  And like people need to see representation in order to.
• 1:12:34
  Think that they have a chance and you know, not everyone needs that.
• 1:12:37
  Some people can just like kind of take the bull by its horns and do it.
• 1:12:40
  But there are so many women that are already in F1 and various leadership
• 1:12:44
  positions in, in various team positions that I think it's just recognizing
• 1:12:48
  them more and seeing them more from.
• 1:12:51
  The teams, Red Bull has done a good job this year of highlighting Hannah Schmitz.
• 1:12:54
  And I think that's been great and huge for people to actually see like recognition
• 1:12:59
  for someone in her position, but even press officers, even like heads of
• 1:13:03
  communication, Susie Wolf is doing a great job, just kind of like being more vocal
• 1:13:08
  and being more kind of as a figurehead.
• 1:13:10
  But I think it's these teams responsibility to showcase the different
• 1:13:15
  people that they have on their teams.
• 1:13:17
  Um, and give them more visibility to people so we can see kind
• 1:13:20
  of who's already in there.
• 1:13:21
  So then once we can lift those people up and show their value and their worth and
• 1:13:26
  show people what's already going on, then that just kind of opens the door for other
• 1:13:30
  people to think, I could do this and I'm going to pursue a career in this and, and
• 1:13:34
  try to get in there and have all of the same skills, same qualifications, and go
• 1:13:39
  in there and say, I'm going to do this as my career too, and not really think
• 1:13:42
  about it, not give it a second thought.
• 1:13:43
  To that point too, around visibility is like getting new fans in, right?
• 1:13:48
  Traditionally, like you said, it's been a boys club because I think cars
• 1:13:51
  are traditionally billed as a boys thing from, you know, a young age,
• 1:13:56
  whereas women may get into it later.
• 1:13:58
  And sometimes it's a little hard to approach because.
• 1:14:01
  You're later in life and all of these men have already been doing it and they know
• 1:14:05
  all this terminology and you try to ask questions and they make you feel dumb.
• 1:14:09
  With our spaces, like, there are no dumb questions.
• 1:14:11
  Doesn't matter what your level is as long as you are willing to
• 1:14:15
  answer other people's questions.
• 1:14:17
  Like, Phenomenal.
• 1:14:19
  We have people in our community who have interests that range from how
• 1:14:23
  the financials work to how the engines work and everything in between.
• 1:14:28
  And like, they're willing to answer any single question that anyone has,
• 1:14:33
  even if it's just like Why does F1 cost so much money to from like the
• 1:14:37
  bare bones type of questions and having these spaces where it's easy to ease
• 1:14:43
  in to the conversation coming from the female perspective is just very crucial.
• 1:14:48
  And I think, you know, F1 continuously putting out new resources about
• 1:14:51
  how to get into the sport and find.
• 1:14:54
  People to connect with is crucial.
• 1:14:57
  So do you think the same thing exists as you begin to investigate other
• 1:15:02
  motorsports, Kate mentioned MotoGP, you know, we were joking about world rally.
• 1:15:05
  We talked a little bit about sports car racing.
• 1:15:07
  There's so many different disciplines to motorsport, whether it's the off
• 1:15:10
  road community, drag racing, et cetera.
• 1:15:13
  So do you see it in the same way as formula one or have other
• 1:15:17
  disciplines made more strides?
• 1:15:19
  Honestly, I think that F1 is probably doing the best with women in the sport.
• 1:15:26
  And as fans, I don't think that we're seeing as much growth in the other areas,
• 1:15:32
  other than I would say IndyCar is a close second, because I think a lot of.
• 1:15:36
  Women feel that IndyCar is also very accessible and it's
• 1:15:39
  kind of close to Formula One.
• 1:15:42
  That's generally the next path for them.
• 1:15:45
  But I would say that all motorsport are facing the same problem is that they're
• 1:15:49
  not doing enough to support the female fans and not doing enough to showcase.
• 1:15:55
  women in leadership or higher roles within the organizations.
• 1:16:00
  All very valid points.
• 1:16:02
  I do think there's a discipline of motorsport that might actually
• 1:16:05
  be doing this better than IndyCar and Formula 1, and it's less
• 1:16:09
  recognized, although On the big stage.
• 1:16:11
  And that's actually sports car racing, because if you look at it, the barrier to
• 1:16:14
  entry for female drivers, you're right.
• 1:16:17
  Yes.
• 1:16:18
  Is a lot lower.
• 1:16:19
  We'll just look at last year's Lamonts with the iron dames and all
• 1:16:22
  the other females that are running on various teams at different levels
• 1:16:26
  from the production based cars to the prototypes and everything in between.
• 1:16:30
  So I think sports car is embracing women without making it apparent.
• 1:16:35
  They're just doing it without bringing attention to it.
• 1:16:38
  And here's my biggest.
• 1:16:39
  Problem with the open wheel community, it's formula W right.
• 1:16:45
  And as a father of girls, I look at it and go, why can't motorsport be co ed?
• 1:16:51
  Why does a formula W have to exist?
• 1:16:54
  Why aren't these women running alongside of LeClerc and Latifi?
• 1:16:58
  I'm sure they're all better than Latifi, you know, and so on down the
• 1:17:02
  line, I don't like that segregation where it's like, it's like the WNBA.
• 1:17:06
  Why can't they just play with the men?
• 1:17:08
  And I hear the excuses on, I call them excuses, the justifications
• 1:17:12
  and rationalizations on both sides.
• 1:17:14
  But to me in motor sport, motor sports always been about run what you brung.
• 1:17:18
  It doesn't matter who's behind the steering wheel.
• 1:17:20
  And I think formula one in contrast to what you were saying is actually behind
• 1:17:25
  the curve because formula W exists.
• 1:17:28
  No, I would agree with that.
• 1:17:29
  And Kate and I have this conversation all the time that like, I can kind
• 1:17:33
  of see the justification for the WNBA and the NBA because they're playing
• 1:17:37
  on a more physical kind of level.
• 1:17:40
  Whereas you're driving the car, the car is not gendered.
• 1:17:43
  You do not have to be a certain gender to drive a car.
• 1:17:45
  People always ask us about W series and like, if we like it or not.
• 1:17:49
  And we're like, well, we appreciate that there is something.
• 1:17:52
  For women, but we don't appreciate that it is seemingly lower than F3 and it is that
• 1:17:59
  there's no direct, no direct pipeline.
• 1:18:02
  Yeah, it's seemingly no one wants to support these female drivers.
• 1:18:05
  No one wants to give them an opportunity.
• 1:18:07
  And so, yes, I a hundred percent agree with you on the fact that that is.
• 1:18:11
  Behind it's a check the box to say we're being diverse and inclusive.
• 1:18:16
  Like, okay.
• 1:18:17
  I mean, that's across the board with basically all their initiatives.
• 1:18:19
  And to speak to the sports car world in terms of the path and the growth
• 1:18:25
  forward, there is actually a path again, they're not doing a good job of.
• 1:18:29
  Advertising it and putting in people's faces, but as a female driver, you're
• 1:18:33
  listening to this going, well, how do I get out of club racing with STCA and
• 1:18:36
  NASA into the world of sports car racing?
• 1:18:38
  If that's what you like, go to world challenge.
• 1:18:40
  You start touring car, and then you work your way up to GT
• 1:18:43
  cars and then so on the line.
• 1:18:44
  And then world challenge is a gateway to IMSA and WEC and so on down the line.
• 1:18:49
  And so there is a progression path there, but again, they're not.
• 1:18:53
  In my opinion, not doing the greatest job of bringing it out
• 1:18:56
  there and saying, Hey, look, what we've got comes back to visibility.
• 1:18:59
  Right.
• 1:18:59
  And like showing people what the options are and showcasing that this is a path
• 1:19:05
  forward for men, women, whatever you are.
• 1:19:09
  Honestly, that's kind of our hope with the growth of two girls.
• 1:19:12
  One formula is that we're expanding outside of just formula one and.
• 1:19:16
  Showcasing all of the different avenues that are possible for
• 1:19:20
  women in the motor sport world.
• 1:19:22
  But obviously we cannot do everything all at once.
• 1:19:24
  And so it's definitely something we're looking towards the future
• 1:19:28
  and helping gain some visibility for our mostly female audience to be
• 1:19:33
  like, here are all of the options.
• 1:19:35
  It's not just formula one.
• 1:19:36
  If you're interested in cars, like here's how you can get involved.
• 1:19:39
  And here's a career.
• 1:19:40
  Path for you.
• 1:19:42
  And one of the things that sort of rubs me the wrong way is when people
• 1:19:46
  say, well, when are we going to see the first female formula one driver?
• 1:19:49
  And we even talked about this not too long ago.
• 1:19:51
  Tanya brought it up and she's like, that already happened.
• 1:19:53
  Right.
• 1:19:54
  That happened in the seventies.
• 1:19:55
  Yeah.
• 1:19:56
  Like, what are you talking about?
• 1:19:57
  That's I think where I get frustrated is like, I think
• 1:20:00
  there's a lot of people out there.
• 1:20:01
  We see a lot of like content creation around, like, we need more women and
• 1:20:05
  we need a woman to be driving a car.
• 1:20:06
  And like, we need to see the first female F1 driver and
• 1:20:09
  like, we need all these things.
• 1:20:11
  And it's like, we've been there and we've had these things, so let's celebrate them.
• 1:20:15
  Let's talk about them.
• 1:20:17
  Let's bring that back into conversation so that more people
• 1:20:21
  know that that has happened.
• 1:20:22
  And then because we're talking about it, there's seen to be a demand for it.
• 1:20:27
  And that's only going to show people that are in power, that there's a demand for
• 1:20:31
  it, there's a need for it, and that people are looking for that to happen again.
• 1:20:34
  And I think honestly, it's just kind of disrespectful to the women that
• 1:20:38
  have already been there and have already done the work and have like.
• 1:20:41
  Done these incredible things to say like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did that,
• 1:20:45
  but we need another one right now.
• 1:20:46
  And like, we need to be in there and like, we need more of this when it's like,
• 1:20:49
  don't discount what's already happened.
• 1:20:51
  Like, don't discount progress that's been made.
• 1:20:53
  And, and even if you're, hasn't been as good and like, maybe it
• 1:20:58
  hasn't been like prolonged and the sport hasn't taken hold of it.
• 1:21:01
  Like, don't take that away from the people that have already.
• 1:21:04
  had those accomplishments and been the first Formula One female driver or
• 1:21:08
  been these people that have done these things because to discount those and
• 1:21:12
  say that that's not enough is saying that those people are not enough.
• 1:21:16
  And I think that is like the problem that I have with a lot of
• 1:21:19
  the discourse around this topic.
• 1:21:21
  And I think that's where organizations like Women in Motorsports North
• 1:21:24
  America or WMNA who You know, it's headed up by Lynn St.
• 1:21:27
  James and other veteran female racers is setting itself apart from
• 1:21:31
  a lot of these other organizations.
• 1:21:33
  Like you're talking about, there may be a little bit more superficial.
• 1:21:35
  Look at us, look at us.
• 1:21:36
  You know, we're, we're starting the trend.
• 1:21:37
  It's like, no, the trend was started a long time ago with people like
• 1:21:41
  Michelle Mouton and Janet Guthrie and Lynn herself and other people.
• 1:21:45
  And they're like.
• 1:21:46
  This is how we need to do this ladies.
• 1:21:47
  This is how we get the job done.
• 1:21:49
  And so I look to those organizations as inspiration, hopefully for the future
• 1:21:53
  and, and that we get the word out there that it exists and that women can go
• 1:21:57
  there as a useful resource to building their career in the motor sports industry.
• 1:22:02
  Absolutely.
• 1:22:03
  Yeah.
• 1:22:03
  And to, I guess, continue this conversation, we've got another
• 1:22:06
  Pitstop question for you.
• 1:22:08
  So of all the successful women that have raced over the years, and we call
• 1:22:12
  them the glorious ladies of racing.
• 1:22:14
  Are there any on your bucket list that you'd like to meet and talk to interview
• 1:22:18
  with, maybe have as guests on your podcast, you know, things like that.
• 1:22:21
  Well, first of all, we'd obviously love to have Jamie Chadwick on the podcast because
• 1:22:26
  she has just been the number one champion the past three years in a row for the W
• 1:22:31
  series, and she's absolutely crushing it.
• 1:22:33
  You know, we used to joke that we were gonna get into crypto
• 1:22:38
  and started Dow to buy Haas.
• 1:22:40
  With Dogecoin.
• 1:22:40
  Brad's got some.
• 1:22:42
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:22:43
  From his Cybertruck, uh, allotment.
• 1:22:44
  Perfect.
• 1:22:44
  We're gonna kick Nikita Mazpin out and instill Jamie Chadwick.
• 1:22:48
  This was before he got fired.
• 1:22:49
  You would not believe the backlash we received on the internet for this joke.
• 1:22:55
  We posted a reel from our podcast where we were talking about this bit,
• 1:22:59
  and we just got, like, decimated.
• 1:23:02
  By death threats of people being like, you are the stupidest people in the world.
• 1:23:07
  You're so like, I can't believe that you're such idiots.
• 1:23:11
  Like you don't even know anything.
• 1:23:12
  You don't know all the steps you would have to take.
• 1:23:14
  You can't just buy a team and put someone in there.
• 1:23:16
  We were like, have you literally ever heard of a joke?
• 1:23:19
  Have you ever looked at the history?
• 1:23:21
  of any of these Formula One drivers.
• 1:23:23
  I was like, oh my god!
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, like, I'm like, I'm sorry, Lance Stoll's dad bought him a team and put
• 1:23:29
  him in there, so like, I think I could probably do that for Jamie, alright?
• 1:23:33
  I'll be her dad!
• 1:23:34
  So, we were, it was just like, we had to delete the video because they were
• 1:23:38
  just like, spreading our, they were like, we hope they get cancer, we hope
• 1:23:42
  they die, like, it was like, so, so bad.
• 1:23:44
  That was a real day to be a woman on the internet talking about motorsport,
• 1:23:49
  but she is one of the leading ladies of the females in motorsport right now.
• 1:23:56
  And so I think that she would definitely be someone that we would love to
• 1:23:59
  talk to because we're eager to help support these women in their journey
• 1:24:04
  to become Formula One drivers or, you know, more professional drivers in
• 1:24:08
  whatever series they're looking to do.
• 1:24:10
  And obviously, you know, we had Danica Patrick, who's.
• 1:24:13
  You know, been pretty successful in her career.
• 1:24:16
  How can we spread the good word and, and help Jamie get to where she needs to be?
• 1:24:22
  I really thought Danica was going to be the next female in formula one, not to say
• 1:24:27
  the first, but the next, the next, yeah.
• 1:24:29
  I mean, it looked pretty good for her for a while there.
• 1:24:32
  And then she took that left turn and then she made another left turn.
• 1:24:36
  I had another left turn, all of the left turns.
• 1:24:38
  That was it.
• 1:24:39
  She went left, left, left, left, left.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  I love Tonya Bradinger.
• 1:24:42
  I think she's really cool and like, is bringing a whole new
• 1:24:45
  vibe to women in motorsports.
• 1:24:47
  She's a race car driver, but she also like, has all of these like, beauty
• 1:24:50
  brand partnerships and has like, worked with like, fashion houses and like,
• 1:24:55
  is just kind of bringing like, a new Spin to motor sports and saying like,
• 1:24:59
  I'm a woman that drives the car, but that doesn't mean that like, I don't
• 1:25:01
  care about my hair and my makeup.
• 1:25:03
  Like I can be both and I multi dimensional and I care a lot about what
• 1:25:07
  I look like and do all these things.
• 1:25:09
  But like my job is that I drive race cars and I think she's really
• 1:25:13
  cool and it's kind of starting a new conversation around that.
• 1:25:16
  Hopefully I think more women that do that will show brands that like they
• 1:25:20
  can sponsor women in different ways.
• 1:25:22
  And it doesn't just have to be like monster energies.
• 1:25:25
  Sponsoring this girl, you can be kind of multifaceted as a woman.
• 1:25:31
  And I'm really excited to start seeing hopefully a diverse set
• 1:25:34
  of brands getting into the space of motorsport, which is exciting.
• 1:25:38
  And then obviously we'd love to talk to Susie Wolf.
• 1:25:39
  Like I have to talk to her someday.
• 1:25:41
  Like I have to have her on the podcast and I don't even want to talk about Toto.
• 1:25:45
  I don't.
• 1:25:46
  I kind of do, but I don't.
• 1:25:47
  I want to talk about, like, her career and, like, the steps
• 1:25:50
  that she's, like, carved her own path, and she's driven F1 cars.
• 1:25:53
  Like, she's one of the women that have done that, and, like, I think she has
• 1:25:56
  done a great job of keeping visibility on women, so I'm trying to talk to her.
• 1:26:01
  When you were mining your Bitcoin, and you were going to buy your team, you
• 1:26:06
  were going to put Jamie in the seat.
• 1:26:07
  Who else would you put in the seat?
• 1:26:09
  You got your team.
• 1:26:09
  You got to have two drivers.
• 1:26:10
  You got two cars.
• 1:26:10
  Well, it was still going to be Mick at this point.
• 1:26:13
  So we were just going to kick out Mazipan and keep Mick.
• 1:26:16
  Well, you're going to do an all female team.
• 1:26:18
  So you got to kick Mick out.
• 1:26:19
  Well, so then it was going to be Tony, Jamie and Tony.
• 1:26:22
  Yeah.
• 1:26:23
  Yeah, but why not?
• 1:26:26
  So would you guys go totally cliche and you'd go back to the old force
• 1:26:29
  India livery where they're like all pink or do something different?
• 1:26:33
  We did discuss that our car was going to be, we're going to bring
• 1:26:35
  back the bubble gum pink and it was going to be an all pink car.
• 1:26:38
  And we were really just going to lean into the girly vibes and
• 1:26:40
  we were going to get sponsors.
• 1:26:42
  Like I got one for you.
• 1:26:43
  I got one for you.
• 1:26:44
  Okay.
• 1:26:44
  Tell us.
• 1:26:45
  Splayed across the side.
• 1:26:46
  Kotex, the best.
• 1:26:49
  Okay.
• 1:26:49
  Ricky.
• 1:26:50
  It's Tampax, we're really lean into it.
• 1:26:54
  Well, it was just going to be the two girls, one formula team.
• 1:26:57
  We're going to hypothetically have enough money that we wouldn't
• 1:26:59
  need any other sponsors in this fantasy world that we had created.
• 1:27:03
  Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  That's the same thing we do when we have our three car garage fantasy.
• 1:27:07
  So yeah, exactly.
• 1:27:09
  So it's just going to be team TG1F.
• 1:27:11
  No other sponsors.
• 1:27:14
  So ladies, we've come to that point in the episode where I like to ask if
• 1:27:19
  you have any shout outs, promotions, or anything else you'd like to share
• 1:27:22
  that we haven't covered thus far.
• 1:27:24
  Give us a follow at two girls, one formula on Instagram and tick tock.
• 1:27:29
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• 1:27:33
  You can't have that many letters in your username.
• 1:27:35
  Give us a follow, check out our podcasts.
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  If you're at all interested in pop culture side of things.
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  And another plug is that we do have a website to gross one formula.
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  com where we do sell some pretty fun merch.
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  If you're looking for some, not.
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  Team branded Formula One merch.
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  We always have new collections.
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  And also just as a quick aside, two girls, one formula is spelled T W O
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  and then the one is a numerical one.
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  There is someone else that has numerical two girls, numerical one formula, and
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  that's not us, but you'll know because they haven't posted in over a year.
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  Three years, the two girls, one formula community is inclusive, welcoming,
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  It doesn't matter if you started watching yesterday or 20 years ago,
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  they're here for you to find people to connect with in a meaningful way.
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  So learn more about Nicole and Kate and keep up with all things formula
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  Be sure to tune into their show, two girls, one formula on all your
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  You can also find them on social that.
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  Instagram TikTok and visit their website www.twogirlsoneformula.com.
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  Go for the F1 and stay for the friendships.
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  That's right Brad and Kate and Nicole, I can't thank you
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  enough for coming on Break fix.
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  This has been a lot of fun.
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  We enjoy doing crossovers.
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  I also want to say that.
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  We've been very fortunate to have a lot of women on this show and you guys
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  are joining an elite cast of folks and what you're doing for the community
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  at large is absolutely amazing.
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  I know it's going to have a positive impact for years to come.
• 1:29:15
  And I, again, I want to celebrate your guys, 50 episodes and here's to 50 more.
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  So thank you.
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  And congratulations.
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  Thank you guys.
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  Thank you for having us and all of the kind words.
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  This has been really, really fun.
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  And thank you for being kind to us for not knowing as much about cars as you all do.
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  So thank you for going easy on us.
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  We're still early in our car journeys.
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  So we'll have to come back on in two years and revisit all
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  of these harder car questions.
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  See if Kate gets a Kia Soul or not.
• 1:29:44
  Yeah, exactly.
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  We want to know about Monza.
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  That's what we want to know.
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  We'll circle back after I reclaim Monza and see where we're at then.
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