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Wander the World: Set Jetting to movie locations around the world · Wander the World with Pippa Hudson

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  Speaker 1: This is Keith Talk Talk, and it is time to
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  Speaker 1: wander the world. And we're having so much fun today
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  Speaker 1: because we're talking about traveling to destinations that you've seen
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  Speaker 1: in a movie or perhaps a television show, that have
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  Speaker 1: made you go, I want to go there, partly because
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  Speaker 1: it might look beautiful. Maybe you just loved the whole
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  Speaker 1: feeling of a show and wanted to feel like you
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  Speaker 1: were immersed in that world.
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  Speaker 2: The term for it, I love this.
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  Speaker 1: Rather than jet setting, we're talking about set jetting, jetting
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  Speaker 1: between movie sets. Get it, planning a holiday specifically in
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  Speaker 1: order to visit one of those beautiful locations. A couple
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  Speaker 1: more of your comments already in on the places you've
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  Speaker 1: been inspired to go to by movies, Elsa saying ASISI,
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  Speaker 1: I was obsessed with the movie Brother Son and Sister
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  Speaker 1: Moon back in the early seventies when I was eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: For Janis, it was Sri Lanka, not inspired by a movie,
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  Speaker 1: but by watching the cricket on TV. She said it
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  Speaker 1: was my most memorable holiday and absolute surfa paradise. I'd
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  Speaker 1: love to hear from more of you about the trips
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  Speaker 1: you've undertaken, particularly because of a film. We've already had
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  Speaker 1: Mama Mia, taking people to Greece under the Tuscan sun, eat, pray, love,
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  Speaker 1: sending people to India, Salzburg and the sound of music.
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  Speaker 1: I bet our guest is going to add a couple
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  Speaker 1: of current favorites to the list. It's a huge pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to welcome back to studio Ega Mortilska, who is a
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  Speaker 1: National Tourist Guide, travel Advisor, guidebook author and the editor
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  Speaker 1: of Eager Journeys dot com. It's great to have you
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  Speaker 1: with us again.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back, absolutely, thank you Papa and absolute pleasure TV
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  Speaker 3: here so excited about today's topic as well.
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  Speaker 1: Such a fun topic set jetting. I mean, I love
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  Speaker 1: that phrase, It's clever. How do you understand that phrase though?
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean to you?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's exactly how you encapsulated it in your intro.
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  Speaker 3: It's that fans want to feel close to the stories,
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  Speaker 3: to the places, to the characters that they've grown to love,
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  Speaker 3: and so they want to stand where Denari stood at
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  Speaker 3: King's Landing. They want to sit at that iconic cafe
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  Speaker 3: in montmart In, Paris, you know, surrounded by that whimsical
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  Speaker 3: atmosphere of Amelie. They want to spot the facade of
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  Speaker 3: the Friends Building, which is one of my favorites and
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  Speaker 3: very much village in New York. They want to stroll
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  Speaker 3: through Hobbiton, you know, so they want to be surrounded
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  Speaker 3: and immersed by all of those different destinations, and so
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  Speaker 3: essentially it creates that sort of emotional connection between the
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  Speaker 3: viewer and the characters and the story, that whole narrative.
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  Speaker 3: And of course we've seen in recent years how Instagram
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  Speaker 3: and TikTok and social media in general has fueled this trend,
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  Speaker 3: and so very often posting a photo at a very
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  Speaker 3: recognizable film location is sort of like a badge of
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  Speaker 3: honor for fans, and of course streaming services you know,
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  Speaker 3: have helped with that as well. As you mentioned, they're
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  Speaker 3: exposing us to all of these destinations we might not
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  Speaker 3: have thought about traveling to in the past, and so
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  Speaker 3: of course it's sparking these new sort of travel desires
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  Speaker 3: amongst us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a couple of red flags here.
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  Speaker 1: One is the fact that not all of these locations
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  Speaker 1: are actually where they appear to be on film. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying this thinking the other night I was alone
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  Speaker 1: at home, randomly flicking through channels, and up came Cocktail
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, absolutely, I'm gonna watch that again, and
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it every bit as much as I did
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  Speaker 1: as a teenager. But I looked at the famous scene
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  Speaker 1: of Tom Cruise and Elizabeth Schuker vorting in the waterfall,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, I bet that waterfalls not even engine Maker.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably filmed in some way, like upper reaches of
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  Speaker 1: New York State or something like that. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: problem one. Not everywhere is filmed where it's actually located.
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  Speaker 1: Problem two is a more serious one, eger and that's
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  Speaker 1: that some of the places are doc tourism spots, if
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  Speaker 1: we can call it that. There are places that are
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  Speaker 1: associated with a lot of historical pain and are not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily it's not sensitive to go and hey, I'm here
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  Speaker 1: for the Instagram selfie. Do you want to share a
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  Speaker 1: couple of examples of that version with us?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, absolutely, And you're absolutely right. For shows like
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  Speaker 3: Marcos for example, or Chernobyl, you know, these locations are
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  Speaker 3: tied to real life tragedies and very like sensitive historical events.
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  Speaker 3: You know, other examples that we may have seen or
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  Speaker 3: read about is that Anne Frank House in Amsterdam. There's
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  Speaker 3: obviously the killing fields of Cambodia that I visited as
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  Speaker 3: well when I was there a few years ago. And
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  Speaker 3: in South Africa we've obviously got Robin Island, and so
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  Speaker 3: these destinations are linked to a very poignant, difficult past
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  Speaker 3: in history for people and generations that have come since then,
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  Speaker 3: and so I think it's very important to visit these
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  Speaker 3: sites to learn from the history, not just to go
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  Speaker 3: to see the destinations, but to honor the victims, to
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  Speaker 3: reflect on the events, and to do so mindfully, I think,
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  Speaker 3: rather than just you know, using it as a backdrop
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  Speaker 3: for a casual photo you're going to post on social media.
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  Speaker 1: I think the worst example all of that, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember the Auschwitz Museum actually having to step into So please,
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  Speaker 1: would people stop taking selfies on the train tracks leading
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  Speaker 1: into Aschwitz?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely the time have we really.
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  Speaker 1: Got there that people think that's okay, Yes, you're missing
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  Speaker 1: the point of going there in the first Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: And that's something that's really close to my heart because
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  Speaker 3: I was born in Poland, so I have been to
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  Speaker 3: Auschwitetz a number of times and I'm very grateful that
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  Speaker 3: these establishments and museums, for example, are making those notes
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  Speaker 3: to people. But it's sad to see that people sometimes
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  Speaker 3: get caught up in that, so I think it's very
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  Speaker 3: important to be mindful about that. And something else that
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  Speaker 3: I would say is to obviously avoid any kind of
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  Speaker 3: disrespectful behavior, anything that might be seen as yeah, disrespectful, so.
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  Speaker 2: Climbing appropriate, yah, yeah, climbing.
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  Speaker 3: Monuments, or being very loud and boisterous. And I think
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  Speaker 3: something else that I would highly recommend is to do
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  Speaker 3: tours that focus on education and that are guided by
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  Speaker 3: victims or past victims or families of victims, because in
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  Speaker 3: a way, you allow them to tell their story, You
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  Speaker 3: are allowed to hear their side, their perspective beyond maybe
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  Speaker 3: what you might have seen on the big screen. And again,
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  Speaker 3: I think it allows them to sort of live within
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  Speaker 3: that narrative and to retell that story from their own perspective.
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  Speaker 3: So I think something important to be mindful of.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for that, we went quite dark quite quickly, so
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  Speaker 1: let's maybe circle back to the lighter side of this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it was important to just get that
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  Speaker 1: out the way and be mindful of the sites you're
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  Speaker 1: going to that they're not just a movie set. In
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  Speaker 1: many cases, absolutely some of them are just a movie set,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean, this is one of the things we
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  Speaker 1: need to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are CGI.
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  Speaker 1: If not completely CGI created, then certainly have been touched
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  Speaker 1: up and brushed up, yes, with the help of computers.
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  Speaker 1: Is that something to consider as well? That you're planning
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  Speaker 1: your amazing trip to whatever site it may be, and
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  Speaker 1: you get there, like, but it doesn't look anything like
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  Speaker 1: it was on the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and you might say, hang on a minute. Expectation
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  Speaker 3: versus reality very very different. And so as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 3: many of these breathtaking scenes, you know, have been enhanced
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  Speaker 3: by CGI or special effects. Perhaps they've been decorated with
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  Speaker 3: custom built prop, or they've been filmed on custom built
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  Speaker 3: sets and we only see a small little section of that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, many of these sets no longer exist or
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  Speaker 3: have been dismantled entirely. So what appears to be a
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  Speaker 3: vast ancient city, for example, might only be a small
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  Speaker 3: little section that's been digitally altered post production, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: to give us that sense of awe and scale. So
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  Speaker 3: I think it's important to temper your heart, especially if
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  Speaker 3: you have high expectations, and also to remember that many
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  Speaker 3: of these scenes might have been filmed on private property
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  Speaker 3: where you might not have access, so you might need
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  Speaker 3: a specific permit. And also to keep in mind that
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  Speaker 3: perhaps maybe they might have been filmed during a specific season,
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  Speaker 3: maybe when the spring blossoms, you know, are in full bloom,
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  Speaker 3: and now you're coming and visiting in winter when the
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  Speaker 3: trees are bare, and so it can have a completely
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  Speaker 3: different kind of ambiance and look and feel. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that's important. And something to keep in mind is
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  Speaker 3: that after the crew has packed up, everyday life continues,
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  Speaker 3: and so you might have windswept garbage, you might have graffiti.
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  Speaker 3: You might have for example, and you pop up shop
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  Speaker 3: or a cafe that's come up there. And very often
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  Speaker 3: these destinations are very aware of the industry and the
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  Speaker 3: economics behind it, that it draws large crowds and they
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  Speaker 3: want to try and sustain that verse similitude. But sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's just another neighborhood where you and me live, and
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  Speaker 3: so I think it's important to be mindful of that,
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  Speaker 3: like when you go there as well, just to remember that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the blue door in the Hugh Grant
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  Speaker 1: notting Hill, notting Hill, Thank you that that morgeous movie,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember reading how many people were crawling to
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  Speaker 1: that scene to try and guess their selfie outside the
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  Speaker 1: blue door, and how intrusive it was for the neighbors,
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  Speaker 1: for whom it was just another block in their neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: that they walk past every day. So point taken, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to say, in case anybody's come in midway
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  Speaker 1: to this conversation, that our guest in studio is Igo Matilska,
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  Speaker 1: national tourist guide and travel writer as well as the
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  Speaker 1: editor of Eager journeys dot com, talking about this idea
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  Speaker 1: of set jetting, planning your trip to go and experience
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  Speaker 1: a movie or television location of a show or film
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  Speaker 1: that you've really loved. And we've had some lovely ideas
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  Speaker 1: coming in from listeners who've already made this kind of
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  Speaker 1: of sort of pilgrimage almost to a film set. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to put in my two cents worth. Earlier this year,
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  Speaker 1: I went to Edinburgh. I didn't go to Edinburgh specifically
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  Speaker 1: because of Harry Potter, but I knew that the city
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  Speaker 1: had huge associations and that series is very, very dear
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  Speaker 1: to my heart. So what I did was I said,
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  Speaker 1: aside it, Dan, I said, right, I'm giving myself permission
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  Speaker 1: to waste an entire day scarring through the sites.
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  Speaker 2: Associated with Harry Potter.
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  Speaker 1: So it was going to the little desk at the
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  Speaker 1: window where Joanne Jak Rowling wrote the book, which has
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  Speaker 1: been moved because the original location burnt down, but it's
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  Speaker 1: the original desk. It was visiting the graveyard where the
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  Speaker 1: tombstones gave the inspiration for many of the names, and
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  Speaker 1: it was finding the Potter.
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  Speaker 2: Grave and the scrim Grave, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: I just I spent it in higher afternoon there and
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  Speaker 1: that these locations are scattered all around, and I found
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  Speaker 1: when I was researching, I wanted to do it myself,
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  Speaker 1: but there were lots and lots of organized tours Eiger
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  Speaker 1: that I could have joined how I wanted to. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, on the afternoon I was in the Grayfriars
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  Speaker 1: Kirkyard looking around. There must have been at least four
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  Speaker 1: tour groups going past, and only one of them I
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  Speaker 1: heard mentioning the actual history of what is a significant
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  Speaker 1: churchyard under which thousands of people are buried.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of them were all there for the Harry
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  Speaker 2: Potter fans. I found it very very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So that's an example of a fairly recent one, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you've got much more current ones to share with us.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to give us some ideas of where
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  Speaker 1: people are going right now?
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  Speaker 3: Sure? Absolutely. I just want to say that I did
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  Speaker 3: exactly the same thing. I went to Oxford to the
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  Speaker 3: Budlian Library. You know, one of my best friends recently
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  Speaker 3: sent me a photograph from King's Cross Station with platform
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  Speaker 3: nine and three quarters. You know, you've got these beautiful
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  Speaker 3: landscapes and views of like Millennium Bridge as well and
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  Speaker 3: Glenfordic Viaduct where the train goes across. Yes, so same same,
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  Speaker 3: I did that too. Something that's close to my heart
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  Speaker 3: as well is the Witcher in Poland is Genet's Castle,
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  Speaker 3: and of course it's a medieval castle in southern Poland,
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  Speaker 3: so really close to where I was born, and it
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  Speaker 3: makes part of the scenic Eagles Nest Trail. And it's
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  Speaker 3: wonderful because you've got sixty odd castles that are located
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  Speaker 3: along this track and various like forts and so on
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  Speaker 3: as well, so like you can really go and see
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  Speaker 3: the crumbling walls, you can visit the towers, the courtyards,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously it's this beautiful haunting backdrop that you can
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  Speaker 3: see and so The entire route is actually one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and sixty three kilometers. It's started with fourteenth century fortifications,
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  Speaker 3: it stretches all the way to crackof crack Out, and
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  Speaker 3: there are twenty five different castles along this way. And
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  Speaker 3: exactly what you said, Pippa is to avoid over tourism
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  Speaker 3: is not to solely just go for the destination and
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  Speaker 3: for the film sets, but to go and visit places nearby,
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  Speaker 3: in and around the surrounds. I think that's also something
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  Speaker 3: that's quite nice, because then you're also tempering your expectations
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  Speaker 3: in terms of not solely going to go see that,
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  Speaker 3: but having a much bigger, wider sort of experience as well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, somebody's asking, did I go to diagon Alley?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? I did.
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  Speaker 1: Victoria Street is the actual street name, but it's cobbled
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  Speaker 1: and it's full of those little colorful stores that were
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  Speaker 1: the inspiration for diagon Ally and Harry Potter. So yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and I have that selfie. I will concede to it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of the Witcher, lovely suggestions
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  Speaker 1: there about heading to Poland. You mentioned nar course earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and as you said, this is one you've got to
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  Speaker 1: approach with some degree of care, because we're talking here
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  Speaker 1: about drug trafficking and an industry that has brought misery
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  Speaker 1: to millions. But at the same time, I'm seeing on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my traveler groups huge interest in visiting
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  Speaker 1: Columbia and Bogata and Madela.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, exactly, and so in Medane you see people
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  Speaker 3: going and visiting public Escobar's grave. It's located in Monte
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  Speaker 3: Sacro Cemetery. They also visit the neighborhood that is named
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  Speaker 3: after him, And again that's a little bit controversial because
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  Speaker 3: some residents, you know, show loyalty to him because he
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  Speaker 3: was very philanthropic. He did try to uplift people, and
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  Speaker 3: he did do good for the communities in some way. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: obviously he had his own sort of ideals around that
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  Speaker 3: and so on. But it's just a tangible reminder of
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  Speaker 3: the influence and the complex sort of socioeconomic dynamics of
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  Speaker 3: the time. And of course there are giant, larger than
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  Speaker 3: life murals there as well, depicting him and in honor
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  Speaker 3: of him. There's also La Catedra, which he built himself
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  Speaker 3: as his luxurious prison. So it's located in the mountains
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  Speaker 3: near Medeene and only parts of the original structure remain,
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  Speaker 3: but it's been repurposed into a monastery and a homeless shelter,
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  Speaker 3: which is very fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: That is kind of spiritual scrubbing of this, yes, totally.
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  Speaker 3: And then you can go and explore Park Bolivard by yourself,
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  Speaker 3: and of course that's the central park in the Dein
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  Speaker 3: You've got lots of various public, beautiful spaces that you
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  Speaker 3: can visit there as well. In Bogota you've got La
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  Speaker 3: canderl Candelaria, sorry about my pronunciation, and of course it's
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  Speaker 3: a very colorful and atmospheric area that's you know, very
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  Speaker 3: often seen in these establishing shots. I would also recommend
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  Speaker 3: the National Museum Moselle Nacional. And of course there are,
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  Speaker 3: as you mentioned, many different tours, and I think going
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  Speaker 3: on a tour where the locals can give you those
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  Speaker 3: insights beyond which you can just read on the internet,
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  Speaker 3: I think can give it so much more color and
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  Speaker 3: sort of bring.
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  Speaker 2: It to life. Yeah, lovely one from Pierre.
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand and tourism had such a boom off the
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  Speaker 1: back of Lord of the Rings. Pierre says, amongst the others,
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  Speaker 1: we've been. What remains close to our heart was New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand and going to the site where most of The
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  Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings was for on my bucket list,
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  Speaker 1: Pire on my travel bucket list.
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  Speaker 2: If only it wor's so very very far away from
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  Speaker 2: South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: With one eye on the clock, we can't not reflect
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  Speaker 1: on k dramas having their moment, and I'm sure that
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  Speaker 1: the tourist moment comes with.
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  Speaker 3: It, Yes, certainly. So. I lived in South care from
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  Speaker 3: twenty ten until twenty eleven, and I love the fact
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  Speaker 3: that I visited these places because, like before, they became
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  Speaker 3: so famous in popular culture, and so I would mention
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  Speaker 3: that sort of for example, Mangong Market, various soul neighborhoods
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  Speaker 3: where we used to go party or dine have become
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  Speaker 3: so popular. Gun Nam is one. We know that from
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  Speaker 3: gun Nam styles as well, Young Dong Hong Day and
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  Speaker 3: Young g Citizens Forestation of course, and in general you
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  Speaker 3: just see them so often when you're looking at various
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  Speaker 3: series beyond just squid games. And what's really interesting about
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  Speaker 3: being able to travel in South Korea to go visit
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  Speaker 3: them is that have created their own maps, so you
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  Speaker 3: can go online and find these maps they'll give you
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  Speaker 3: advice on where to go, which subway station to get
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  Speaker 3: out of, where to walk, how many steps, when to
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  Speaker 3: turn left and right. So people are very much involved
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  Speaker 3: in that as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm so great sharing that totally and again that
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  Speaker 1: feeling part of a community of fans. I love that
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  Speaker 1: now quickly, quickly an honorable mention for the White Lotus
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  Speaker 1: because I would imagine that right now, places that are
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  Speaker 1: going through a bit of a dip in tourism are
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  Speaker 1: probably writing to the White Lotus creators saying, please put
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  Speaker 1: your next season where we are, because it's had that
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  Speaker 1: spin off effect for so many destinations, most recently Sicily though.
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  Speaker 3: Yes absolutely, and Thailand as well. And of course, I
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  Speaker 3: mean I was thinking about that, and I know that
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  Speaker 3: some tourism destinations and tourism boards are actually reaching out
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  Speaker 3: and collaborating with producers and various writers and directors and
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: everything to say, hey, do you want to come to
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: a site inspection. Let's do a little bit of a recue.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: We can show you, you know, what you can see,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: what you can portray. So very often there are these
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: sort of hand in hand collaborations as you mentioned.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And literally offering rebates if you come and shoot hears
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: as well. So absolutely watch the space. I believe the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: next White Lotus is going to the French riviewer, so
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: can you just imagine. But definitely one to think about there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've spoken about the need to be sensitive,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: We've spoken about the need to manage expectations in terms
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of what is real, what is not real. What would
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: be your recommendation or the best place to start researching at?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Just inclosing ego, if somebody really has their heart set
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: on doing a Harry Potter holiday or a place that's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: going to take them to a sound of music location.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of information online. Any tips
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: or cautions.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, I would say certainly, have a look at tourism boards.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: They're very often capitalizing on that and they want to
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: minimize over tourism. They want to just sort of manage
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: the expectations of local communities. I would say that's really great.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Have a look at various blog posts these days. Guidebooks
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: are also including like little sections you know about movie
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: tidbits and all of that. So I would say that,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: and then just like one final thing I think to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: keep in mind is just being mindful of local communities,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: and so you know, remembering that the sudden influx can
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: put a strain on local infrastructure, It increases prices for residents,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: it creates gentrification very often. It can also lead to
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: like environmental damage if it's not managed sustainably. So I
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: think try to support local businesses, local tour guides, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: then just also be aware of your footprint and just
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: suspend your disbelief a little bit sometimes and remember that
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: perhaps the versimilitude of the movie might be slightly different,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: and just to embrace it in the magic.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's been wonderful having you with us again. Thank
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you so much. With lots of food for thought, Ego
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: motil Sca. You can read more on Eager journeys dot com.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: She's also a National tourist Guide, travel advisor, and guidebook writer.