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The 2-Year Anniversary Special: Behind the Mics of Coffee in the Park! · Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam

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Hi, I'm Jennifer, and I'm Cam, and you're listening to Coffee in the Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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Well good morning everybody and welcome to a very special edition of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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Jennifer?
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Cam, can you believe today marks the two year anniversary of the podcast right here at The Wall Coffee Roasters.
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We have been doing this for two whole years.
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Doesn't it feel like 20 years?
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It does some days.
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It does feel like 20 years.
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But like you said, we've been here and are here today, live at The Wall Coffee Roasters in the heart of beautiful downtown Acheson.
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And because we're in the roaster or the coffee shop, if you hear any noise in the background, maybe coffee machines whirring, people talking, kids screaming, but there's no kids today.
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But hey, it's because we're at The Wall Coffee Roasters.
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And this has been our home literally for two years.
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Since day one.
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That's right.
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And if you go online and check our video that we're going to post, we'll show you how and where we do our podcasts.
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Each and every week, Cam.
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That's right.
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We've only done two, I think it's two, off-site podcasts.
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One at the Lingnan and one, the Penguin.
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Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me.
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I was going to say where was the second one? But at the mall, of course! The Penguin.
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Because they couldn't bring the Penguin to the coffee shop.
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And so we went there.
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And other than that, every other podcast we've done for two years, all of them have been done right here in the coffee shop.
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Cam, I think we should give a huge shout out to the staff and the owner, Michael Wall, and his team at The Wall Coffee Roaster for letting us come each and every week to do this podcast.
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They are awesome.
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Today there's Erilyn and Landen and Brenden and Michael's here.
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And Kaden's here.
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And they just, they're always so accommodating for us, always.
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And they make us our favorite drinks before we go on air.
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And it's awesome.
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And if you have never been to The Wall Coffee Roasters, listen, come here, because not only will you get a great drink, but also this, you'll see the home of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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I feel we should put up a plaque.
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We should.
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It's only after two years, we'll put up a memorial plaque.
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This is where the podcast is done.
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I think we should.
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Yeah.
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We'll talk to Michael.
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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It could be, you know what, it could be one of those Instagrammable tourist spots.
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Yeah, that's right.
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People come and take a picture in front of it and go, I was at The Wall Coffee Roasters and I sat where they, where they record the Coffee In The Park podcast.
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I know.
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And when you see in our video, it's actually kind of cool because we're in a back corner of the coffee shop, but I'm sitting on a church pew.
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That was Michael's, came out of Michael's grandfather's church.
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Yes, that's right.
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Michael's grandfather, Wes's dad's church.
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And so I'm actually sitting on a church pew.
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And yeah, this is where we do it every week.
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All our guests, this is where they come.
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And I'm going to say this.
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I don't think we've had a guest that hasn't come out here to the coffee shop that hasn't been like impressed.
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You know, I agree with you.
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They are blown away when they walk in with how beautiful it is, how bright and friendly and welcoming it is.
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And they're shocked that it is in the middle of an industrial park.
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Nobody believes that this kind of coffee shop is in Acheson.
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No.
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You know, and because it's kind of rare that you'd have a place like this in the middle of an industrial park.
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And you're right, they come in and a lot of them are just kind of in awe.
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They're like, this is amazing.
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But you know what?
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Shout out to beautiful downtown Acheson.
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Because, I mean, this is not, this is not our, this is not our full time job podcasting.
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I know some of you think it is.
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Like one day when we do the world tour, maybe, I don't know, maybe.
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I suggested we get a big motor home and put our faces all over it and travel around.
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We need some money before we do that.
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We do need money to do that.
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Which reminds me, we better make sure that we give mention to our sponsor, Wing Snob.
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And Wing Snob has been with us for two, well, a year and a half.
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Well, almost, yeah.
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Yeah, almost two years.
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Almost two years.
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And Mike Chadi and Wing Snob, amazing sponsors.
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If you've never had Wing Snob, you got to have Wing Snob.
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You know why?
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Because the wings Cam are fresh, never frozen.
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Fresh, never frozen.
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How many flavors?
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16 flavors and four rubs.
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Four rubs, that's right.
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Some of the best wings you're going to have in the city of Edmonton and in Calgary and in Grande Prairie.
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And they're amazing.
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And so, hey, listen, you got to check it out.
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And a big, huge thank you goes out to Mike Chadi and to Wing Snob for sponsoring us.
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They sponsor us, which helps us.
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We do have some costs.
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We do.
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We do.
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It's not the motor home cost with our face all over it, but we do have some costs and they help us take care of that and they're just great sponsors.
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Not only that.
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Mike's a great friend.
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He's just a good guy.
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Just great supporters overall.
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So if you don't know what to do for dinner tonight, check them out at www.wingsnob.ca.
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Check it out.
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You'll love it.
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I know you will.
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And hey, listen.
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So, okay, two years.
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How many podcasts?
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This episode is 109.
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109 podcasts.
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That's incredible.
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I know.
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And we haven't missed a week.
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No.
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We did do three reruns, but it was for a reason.
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You know what?
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Every podcast does reruns.
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Yeah, but we only did it for a reason.
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And it wasn't because we weren't here.
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It's because, remember, we were promoting the lifetime achievement award winners.
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And so we've never missed a week.
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No.
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Never.
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I know.
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It didn't matter what the weather was like, whether it was a snowstorm in Alberta.
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You know what?
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I want to talk about the weather for a minute.
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Yeah, it's kind of weird.
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The Gophers are wearing life vests as they're crossing the road.
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Everybody.
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It's like you're right.
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The animals are walking in twos.
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They're all going in the same direction.
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This weekend here in the region of beautiful downtown Acheson.
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Yes.
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We received more rain in one weekend than we have in, I think, all of last summer last year.
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Somebody told me there were people going down some streets in a canoe.
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I can see that.
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It's unbelievable how much rain we had.
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Everybody's basement is flooded.
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Sump pumps stopped working.
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People are pumping water out of their basements.
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It's unbelievable, really.
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We had so much rain.
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I lived in Vancouver for a long time, and Vancouver is known for its rain.
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Rained every day, 365 days.
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Well, not quite, but it felt like it.
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This weekend here was unbelievable.
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We had so much rain.
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It was like Vancouver.
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I know.
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In two days.
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In two days.
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But now it's sunny.
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Well, they say for three days.
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For three days.
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And then it's gonna rain again.
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I know.
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I don't know what's going on.
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What a summer.
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It's, what is it El Nino or El, what is it?
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Because I don't know what's going on.
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I don't know.
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I thought El Nino was heat.
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It's not El Nino.
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According to the Farmers Almanac Cam.
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Yes.
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Which you know.
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Yeah, we have copies.
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I know.
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Of the Farmers Almanac.
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It is supposed to be a hot, dry summer.
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It is not proving out to be a hot, dry summer.
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No, but today is June 23rd.
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We will release this on the 25th.
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And it's supposed to rain all next week, but then who knows?
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It could just turn like blistering hot for two months.
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I don't know.
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The other thing I want to mention is the mosquitoes.
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When I was walking the dogs last night, are the size of birds cam.
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Because they've had so much rain.
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I know.
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It's a little frightening.
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They're going to take over.
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I think so.
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Mosquitoes are everywhere.
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Water's everywhere.
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Ducks are everywhere.
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It's there everywhere.
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I think I saw a beaver swimming in the ditch coming to Acheson this morning.
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A beaver, I love it.
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Yeah, no, it's a lot of rain.
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But hey, nonetheless, today's sunny, kind of nice.
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We have to take advantage of that.
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And today is a great day because we're selling, celebrating two years.
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Thought you were going to say we're selling two years.
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Selling two, no, we're celebrating two years.
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Celebrating two years.
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Two years.
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Yeah.
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Of the podcast.
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I know.
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And that's amazing.
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You know what, Cam, I did a little research because I was curious.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of podcasts in the world.
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There are a lot of podcasts.
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Like a lot.
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How many do you think there are?
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Well, according to my research.
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Yeah.
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Thank you, Google.
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Google.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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4.5 million podcasts worldwide.
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Are you serious?
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There's 4.5 million podcasts?
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Come on.
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No.
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You couldn't even listen.
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Like how would you do that?
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You don't.
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You don't?
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No.
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That's a lot.
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So we're one of the 4.5 million.
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We are one of the 4.5.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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That's incredible.
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505 million listeners worldwide listen, like people listen to podcasts.
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505 million people every day listening to podcasts.
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Yeah.
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Of some sort.
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Of some sort.
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That's incredible.
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I know.
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When you think about it.
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It really is.
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Somebody told me that podcasts are becoming more popular than radio talk shows.
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Oh.
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That's true.
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And even some TV shows.
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Some TV shows now are people just doing their podcasts.
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That's what they are.
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Because more people listen to them.
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I know.
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It's a new world.
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It's how people are getting their, I think a certain generation, especially a certain generation.
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Well, yeah.
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That is how they connect and they learn, and get their information.
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Five years ago, nobody knew what a podcast was.
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If you said, I'm listening to a podcast, they would think you're like...
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I don't think I listened to a podcast five years ago.
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No, I don't think that's what I'm saying.
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It's a relatively new kind of thing, podcasts.
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But already, there's 505 million listeners. Everybody's doing a podcast.
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Unbelievable.
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Everybody wants to do a podcast, on every subject.
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Like, if you want to know, say you wanted to know how to, I don't know, say you wanted to know how to raise a turtle, you could find a podcast on how to raise a turtle.
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Or if you wanted to find a podcast on how to comb your hair, you could find a podcast on it.
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The number one genre, Cam, in the podcast world still, number one, what do you think it is?
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I'm going to say crime.
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Yeah.
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It is.
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True crime.
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True crime.
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It's the number one rated out of all podcasts.
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Maybe we should do a true crime segment.
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A true crime segment.
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Yeah.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Is it the missing turtle from the atrium here at The Wall Coffee Roaster?
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That's right.
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Before this was The Wall Coffee Roaster, this was an office building.
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There was a huge atrium right in the middle with a pond.
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It had a pond.
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I know this because my office was actually in this building.
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And at that time, I was HR, and the guy who owned the turtle, I had to fire him.
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I won't say his name because people might know him, but I had to fire him.
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And on the day I fired him, I said, OK, get all your stuff together.
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Are you going to take your turtle home?
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And he said, yeah, I'll take my turtle.
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And then he came to me as he was cleaning out his stuff.
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He said, I'll come back and get my turtle, which was code for, I'm never taking my turtle.
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So the turtle stayed here, but then the turtle disappeared.
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And I don't know what happened.
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It's a true crime.
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It's a true crime.
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What happened to the Acheson turtle?
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Did someone kidnap the turtle?
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Did someone, I hate to say it, murder the turtle?
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Or what happened?
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I know.
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Stay tuned, folks.
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Stay tuned for the Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam Crime Series, What Happened to the Turtle?
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What was the turtle's name?
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Did he have a name?
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Yeah, he did, but I don't remember.
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It was a long time ago.
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I'll find out the turtle's name.
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There might be a turtle body, a carcass somewhere in Acheson.
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Yeah.
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We might find, or he could be alive.
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He could, somebody could have taken him and just had him in their car and do like they do sometimes with puppies and open the door and boot him out, and then he's out there.
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It could be like an episode of CSI.
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Yeah, totally.
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CSI, the turtle episode.
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We'll find him.
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Anyway, that's, that's, so crime is the number one.
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Crime is the number one.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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Comedy.
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Comedy.
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Yep.
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Comedians doing podcast.
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Yeah.
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Is also really high up there.
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We should do a comedy segment.
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Yeah, no, we're not funny.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I thought I was kind of funny sometimes.
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Oh, thanks a lot.
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Oh, we're not funny.
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Okay.
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Well, not like the comedians, actual comedians that are doing it.
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We can tell jokes.
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Yeah, those are bad jokes.
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Bad jokes.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Business is rated up there really high.
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If we could get Nate Bargatze on our podcast.
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He's coming to Edmonton.
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I know.
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If we could get him, he can help us be a comedy podcast.
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Okay, you work on that.
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I'm going to.
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Okay.
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Because what does he do during the day when he's here?
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Nothing.
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So maybe he'll just support.
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He was a little guy once too.
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That's right.
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Nate, you were a little guy once.
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Like remember when you were doing clubs, like we're not that, well, we're getting bigger, but you know, like it'd be cool to have Nate Bargatze.
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I know.
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So those are like the top genres of like.
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True crime, comedy.
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Yeah.
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Business.
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Business.
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Yes.
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Oh, we could do a little business.
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Well, we have talked about business.
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We have.
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Yes. We have businesspeople.
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We have guests who are businesses.
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We're in a business here.
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We have a business.
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Yes.
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We do.
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I know.
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So, okay, we could do a business segment.
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We could do a crime segment, a comedy segment, a business segment.
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Listen, I think we should stick to what we do best.
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I know.
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Which is telling stories.
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The story behind the story.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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But if these are popular, I'm just saying a segment.
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I'm not saying we do the whole thing.
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Just a little segment.
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Missing Turtle, few jokes, business advice.
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But Cam, I think what makes us so successful is the fact that we tell some incredible stories on this podcast.
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We have had the most amazing guests.
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But before we talk about our guests, I heard, and I don't know if this is true.
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Did you look this up?
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A lot of podcasts don't survive.
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They don't make it.
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No, they don't.
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They don't make it.
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No.
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Like, what is it?
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One in seven or something.
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Well, did you find out what it was?
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I did.
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Yeah.
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So 44% of podcasts have fewer than three episodes.
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Three episodes.
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Three episodes.
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We know some of those people.
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We know, we know.
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We won't mention names.
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Because people phone us now or come see us and go, hey, I'm thinking, your podcast, I listen to it, it's great.
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I know you guys have been going for a long time.
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Can you help me start a podcast?
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And we're like, well, just go start your podcast.
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And then we don't, we never hear from them.
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Right.
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Or they do three episodes and that's it.
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Gone.
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Gone.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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That's incredible.
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44% of podcasts have fewer than three episodes.
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Over 70% have not published more than 10 episodes, Cam.
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Serious.
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Do they just quit?
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They just stop?
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Yep.
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Oh, that's no fun.
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Well, it's not like it's not work.
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It is work.
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Well, no, it is work.
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This is work for us.
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This is work.
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So I think people think it's just going to be easy.
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People don't realize, like, we have to get guests.
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That's hard sometimes.
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Well, it is.
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It's not hard to get the guests.
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It's hard to schedule them.
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To schedule and coordinate with the guests.
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And we, I tell you, we've had great guests.
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We'll talk about that in a minute.
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And we have some really great guests coming up.
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I'm excited about some of them.
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But yeah, it's work.
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And then we come and we set up.
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And sometimes we have technical difficulties.
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And that's frustrating.
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And it's a lot.
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And then we take it back, edit it down, and then we pump it out.
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That's right.
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And it's out there.
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Exactly.
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So it's work.
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Okay, I have some more stats for you, you want to know.
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Okay, yep.
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Okay, yep.
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Okay.
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Out of 4.5 million podcasts, only 145,000 have over 100 episodes.
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Are you serious?
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Yes.
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Out of 4.5 million, 145,000 have over 100 episodes.
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Well, that's why we got to make this a big deal.
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I know.
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That's incredible.
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Because we have not only over 100 episodes, we've been doing this for two years.
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Two years.
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Yep.
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Do you think I've changed in two years?
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I do.
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I think we've both changed.
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Am I grayer?
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Do you think?
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No.
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No?
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No.
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She looks at me and just like, you've always been gray.
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No.
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Do you think two years has changed us?
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Do you think?
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I think it has.
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You think so?
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Yeah, I think so.
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In what way?
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Well, I know for me, I know the two years has taught me that there's just amazing, great stories out there and I love listening to people's stories.
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And it's taught me again that I have to be collaborative.
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I have to work with you.
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Why are you laughing with me?
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Because, you know, it's not just the Cam podcast, because that would fail tomorrow.
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That would.
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If it was just Coffee with Cam, nobody would listen, but because it's Coffee with Jennifer and Cam, this is why people listen.
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So Jennifer and Cam, so we're like a team.
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We have to be collaborative.
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Is that a good word? Collaborative Yeah.
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You know how I was complaining about university and having to do group work?
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I think post-secondary should invite us in to talk about collaboration and teamwork.
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Yes.
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People ask if we ever fight.
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We do.
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We do fight.
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Yeah.
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We have fought.
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Yeah.
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We do fight.
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We do.
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Yeah.
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I had one person say, how do you fight?
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I said, well, we don't fist fight.
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That would hurt.
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She'd knock me down and I'd be out.
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Well, that would be inappropriate.
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That's right.
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Well, it would be inappropriate.
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She'd abuse me.
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It'd be abuse.
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But I think healthy debate is a good thing.
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Sometimes.
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Not all the time, but sometimes.
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It's not always a debate.
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No.
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Sometimes.
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Anyway, we should film our next fight because people would laugh so hard.
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They would.
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Okay.
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But here's a bit of the challenge and I'm going to talk a little bit about Cam and I's personalities.
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There we go.
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Here we go.
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I should never have asked if we've changed in two years.
17:57
So if anybody has done, you know, you remember like back in the day when you had to do like the Myers-Briggs and all of those like personality assessment?
18:06
Oh the tests. That took like, yeah.
18:07
Yeah.
18:07
Some of them were like animals and stuff.
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Are you a beaver?
18:10
Are you an eagle?
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Are you a cow?
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What are you?
18:12
Yeah.
18:13
Yeah.
18:13
Yeah.
18:14
So I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to tell you Cam.
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And then I'm going to tell you me.
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Okay.
18:19
Yeah.
18:20
So this is this is sometimes what causes some of the challenges, the disagreements.
18:25
Yeah.
18:26
Yeah.
18:27
Disagreements.
18:27
So Cam for the color when if anybody's done the color spectrum, because this is the one I remember.
18:33
The color spectrum.
18:35
Cam is 100% orange.
18:37
What?
18:37
No, orange and blue.
18:38
You're a mix of orange and blue.
18:39
Oilers colors.
18:40
So we don't want to talk about that today.
18:43
Anyway, yeah.
18:43
But podcast colors.
18:45
Orange and blue, that's our podcast color.
18:47
So orange people are like super creative.
18:51
Like they have a gazillion ideas and are throwing them out all the time.
18:55
All the time.
18:55
And are like a ping pong, just like a ping pong.
18:59
A ping pong, back and forth.
19:01
Back and forth, yeah.
19:05
So that with orange.
19:07
But blue, you're an emotional guy.
19:09
Yeah, I am.
19:09
You are.
19:10
I'm a crier.
19:11
You're an emotional guy.
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I've cried on the podcast.
19:14
I'm a crier.
19:15
No, you just take things like really personally.
19:18
Yeah, I do.
19:18
Yeah.
19:19
Yeah.
19:20
Yeah.
19:20
So the challenge with me.
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What color are you?
19:25
There is no blue in me at all.
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What are you?
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I am 100% green and a little gold.
19:31
So green is like, you couldn't get more analytical.
19:36
Non-emotional, but organized.
19:40
Oh, you are.
19:41
No, you are one of the most organized peoples I've ever met.
19:44
I'm not even kidding about that.
19:46
So here's the thing.
19:47
See, when Jennifer says that I'm like always ideas, you could lock me in a room with a pad of paper and I'd write ideas and slip them under the door, and people would just take them and take that one and say, yeah, or that one, no, but I could just write ideas.
20:02
So while I'm doing that, Jennifer's organizing.
20:05
That's what she's doing.
20:06
She's organizing.
20:08
It's true.
20:08
You are organized.
20:09
Yes.
20:10
I wish I was that or I'm not that organized.
20:13
Well, again, it's just different strengths.
20:15
Yeah.
20:16
So I'm not sure where in all of that we have our disagreements.
20:20
Well, we have our disagreements because you are that million ideas guy and I'm like, no, stop it.
20:26
Let's take a minute and think about this and analyze it.
20:28
So that's where the conflict comes in.
20:29
And by my own admission, some of those ideas are dumb.
20:33
They're dumb ideas.
20:34
But we've talked about this and you've been very good with this.
20:39
I'm working on it.
20:42
You used to go, that's a really dumb idea.
20:44
I'm working on it.
20:45
And that would hurt my.. That was the blue side coming out.
20:47
I know I hurt your feelings.
20:48
Tears would be running down my face when you called it a dumb idea. I wasn't very nice.
20:51
But now you've softened and you don't call it a dumb idea.
20:55
But I know what you're thinking, so it doesn't matter really.
21:00
I'll just say it.
21:01
But anyways, yeah, that's how we're different.
21:04
And that has caused a bit of the angst at times.
21:07
Sometimes.
21:07
I agree, I agree.
21:08
And I instigate the angst.
21:12
I'm totally, I admit that.
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I just like, yeah.
21:15
But you know what, that's life, which is why I think we could be a master class on for post-secondary students.
21:24
We could talk about business and leadership and all those guys, we could do classes on that.
21:29
That's what I'm saying.
21:29
Because we've lasted this long.
21:31
I know.
21:31
Like we could have, there were days we probably would have and could have, we might have ended.
21:39
I remember a couple of those conversations.
21:41
I know.
21:41
We've had to have some serious conversations over the two years.
21:44
We had to have some serious conversations.
21:48
But not, and it's not just the disagree, like not even that.
21:52
But you and I have gone through some, we have.
21:54
And we don't, we haven't talked about them, but some really difficult personal life experiences.
21:59
In life, we have gone through, yeah.
22:01
Over the two years.
22:01
Over the two years.
22:02
And we've shared those and we've gone through those.
22:07
And here's the bit, okay, I'm just going to say it because, okay, I know we got more to do here, but I'm just going to say it, two years and you have become not just a co-worker, you started out as a kind of a co-worker, kind of.
22:20
We didn't work for the same company.
22:22
You didn't work for our company.
22:23
I mean, I didn't work for the ABA, but you moved in to our offices and you're literally, I don't even know what the, one day I'm going to measure because I keep getting the number wrong.
22:36
I say like 30 feet or whatever.
22:38
Well, it's changed since we had to move next door to the other office.
22:40
That's right, it has changed, yeah.
22:41
But we're like 20 feet apart, probably, 20 feet.
22:44
Your office is on that side, my office is on this side, Hannah's in the middle.
22:48
But anyways, so we started out that way and I was on the ABA board and you were the ABA person.
22:54
So we were talking and we went from that.
22:56
Then we started the podcast.
22:58
Now we were co-hosts on a podcast.
23:01
Now we work together, we're co-hosts, but the best part is we're friends.
23:07
Yes, we're friends.
23:08
We're totally friends.
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I know.
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Yeah.
23:10
Yeah.
23:11
You can say things to me that not many people can get away with saying.
23:20
We laugh.
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We can't.
23:22
Anyway, maybe one day we'll do a show like that.
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Yeah.
23:24
But that's the best part of it all.
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We're friends.
23:26
We're friends.
23:27
Yeah.
23:28
We're friends.
23:28
Yeah.
23:29
Yeah.
23:29
Friends are friends forever.
23:31
That's, I won't sing it.
23:32
There's a song.
23:33
There's a song.
23:34
Yeah.
23:35
Anyway, so that's what it's turned into, which is pretty cool after two years.
23:39
Because, and you know what?
23:41
I think it's awesome.
23:42
Some, one person said we're like Regis and Kathie Lee.
23:45
I know.
23:45
Yeah.
23:46
Are they still?
23:47
What?
23:48
Is Regis?
23:48
No, he's dead.
23:49
Did he?
23:50
But Kathie Lee still?
23:51
Yeah.
23:51
She's still alive.
23:52
Okay.
23:52
Yeah.
23:53
She's looking quite ancient, but anyways, I'm just saying.
23:55
Is she still married to Terry Bradshaw?
23:57
No.
24:00
She was married to Gifford.
24:01
Oh, he died.
24:03
Yeah.
24:04
Terry Bradshaw.
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Like a long time ago.
24:06
I don't know why I got that.
24:08
Don't listen to the podcast for the latest entertainment news, because we're way off.
24:13
That's wrong.
24:14
Yeah.
24:14
I heard just the other day Elvis died.
24:15
Like I just couldn't believe it.
24:17
It's just shocking.
24:20
Don't come to us for the latest entertainment news.
24:23
But people have said we're like Regis and Kathie Lee.
24:26
Right.
24:27
Yeah.
24:27
And they lasted a long time on that show.
24:30
They were like together forever.
24:32
Yeah.
24:32
Yeah.
24:33
And then Regis.
24:34
Well, yeah.
24:35
Well, it happens.
24:37
She's looking at me like, it happens.
24:40
It's just, we're not spring chickens.
24:45
We're not spring chickens.
24:47
Somebody today was here and we were telling them, it was our second anniversary and on their way out, they said, congratulations, another 30 years.
24:56
And we both said, we won't be here in 30 years.
25:01
These podcasts will be in the archives of the podcast museum somewhere.
25:06
But anyway, yeah.
25:07
Anyway, so yeah, so it's been two.
25:09
OK, so out of the 4.5 million podcasts, only 145,000 have over 100 episodes.
25:16
We have over 100 episodes. 109 yes.
25:20
OK, what's your next stat here?
25:23
I like this one.
25:23
I think this is really interesting.
25:25
This is a very interesting one.
25:26
I think this kind of tells you how podcasts have shifted and how people get their like news and information.
25:33
Yes.
25:34
So apparently, yeah, in 2026, podcast ads hold a 70% retention rate, which is leaps and bounds ahead of most digital ads.
25:45
So what does this mean?
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People remember?
25:48
People remember they retrain it.
25:49
Like our sponsor like Wing Snob?
25:50
Yeah.
25:51
70%.
25:51
Right.
25:52
Over if you had like a digital ad on Facebook or on Instagram.
25:56
Yeah.
25:56
Okay.
25:57
So I did not know this.
25:59
I know.
26:00
So if you're out there and you have a business or a company and you want to sponsor Coffee In The Park, your ads are going to hold a 70%.
26:12
Isn't that incredible?
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Contact us at www.coffeeinthepark.com and get our sponsorship package.
26:18
And do you know why?
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Why?
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Because they say, and I could see this, podcast hosts are seen as 64% more trustworthy.
26:27
What?
26:28
86% more authentic.
26:32
Really?
26:33
And 89% more influential than just an ad placed somewhere.
26:38
Wow.
26:40
So podcast hosts are 64% most trustworthy.
26:44
I guess, yeah.
26:46
Well, you're one of the most, I say this honestly, you're one of the most trustworthy people I've ever met.
26:51
So sponsor us at www.coffeeinthepark.com.
26:54
Yeah, because Jennifer is totally trustworthy.
26:56
And 86% are more authentic.
26:59
I think we're pretty gosh darn authentic.
27:01
Listen, this is the way I am.
27:03
I think.
27:04
Yeah, I know.
27:05
I'm like this.
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You are all the time.
27:06
Whether on or off air.
27:08
It's true.
27:08
It is what it is.
27:09
It is what it is.
27:10
Yeah, but that's, I think I like that.
27:12
And the best part is our guests are authentic.
27:15
We have authentic guests.
27:17
Yes, we do.
27:18
Each and every guest that has come on this podcast.
27:20
Yeah, they're authentic.
27:21
They are.
27:21
Yeah, Nate Bargatze.
27:22
They're authentic.
27:24
They should come on the podcast.
27:25
I think one thing that's really important for people to know about this podcast, Cam, there is nothing scripted about this podcast.
27:30
You and I, we have no, the stats are written down, but that's it.
27:34
Right.
27:34
We don't have a script.
27:35
We tried that and it didn't work.
27:38
No.
27:38
I think as soon as you have a script, you lose that authenticity.
27:41
Yeah.
27:42
Because truth is, we tried a script and it never worked.
27:45
We went off script all the time anyway.
27:46
So like it was like, and our guests would always say, can you send me the questions ahead of time?
27:50
We don't.
27:51
We say no, because we don't want it to sound scripted.
27:55
Because I think they think that we have the questions.
28:00
Once we get talking and we say, I say this to our guests, before we start the podcast, I say to our guests, listen, we'll start talking, and you may say something that takes us down a rabbit trail, and we'll start talking.
28:11
So it's no use scripting it, because we'll go off script anyway, because they say something and go, that's interesting, let's talk about that, and it takes us down a different path.
28:20
And so yeah, that's pretty cool.
28:22
Yeah, I think.
28:22
So no scripts.
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No scripts.
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No.
28:25
But this one, 89% more influential.
28:29
Well, I think you're way more influential than me.
28:32
I don't.
28:32
Nobody.
28:33
No.
28:33
I have comments about that, but I'm not going to say, cause I'll get in trouble.
28:36
Not about us.
28:37
Not about, about other podcast people.
28:39
Yeah.
28:39
Yeah.
28:40
But 89% more influential.
28:44
This is why, this is why you're on the podcast, because you are influential.
28:48
I'm influential.
28:49
Yeah.
28:50
I'm, I'm nobody.
28:50
I don't think I'm very influential, but you make up for me being uninfluential.
28:57
You are influential.
28:58
Well, I don't know about that.
28:59
Yeah.
28:59
Anyway, but it's good.
29:00
So wow, these are amazing stats.
29:02
These are unbelievable.
29:03
These are all like 2026 stats.
29:04
This is why two years is pretty incredible.
29:06
I know.
29:07
It really is.
29:08
You know, I met with somebody actually right here at this table last week.
29:12
Yeah.
29:13
And I haven't seen her in, oh my gosh, probably three years.
29:17
Yeah.
29:18
And she said she's listens to the podcast.
29:23
So it was number one, exciting to hear that.
29:25
But then she asked me a question and I really had to think about it.
29:29
She said, in all of your guests, who has been the one that has impacted you the most?
29:36
Wow.
29:38
That's hard.
29:39
That was hard.
29:40
Yeah, because we've had some pretty.
29:42
Not who was your favorite, but who has impacted you the most.
29:45
Yeah.
29:46
And I struggled to find an answer for that.
29:49
It would because we have had some people tell some pretty incredible stories.
29:55
I don't even, I wouldn't even, I honestly, I wouldn't know how to answer that.
29:58
I know.
29:59
It really caught me off guard.
30:01
I can't say there was just one.
30:03
No, there's not just one.
30:05
There's guests that have made us laugh so hard.
30:08
There's guests that have made us raise our eyebrows a little bit.
30:12
And there's guests that have literally brought us to tears.
30:16
And I don't even, and all of that is influential to me.
30:19
I don't, all of that is, yeah, impacted my life.
30:23
But I thought that was a great question.
30:24
It's a great question.
30:26
Wow.
30:26
We've had some good guests.
30:27
Do you want to talk about that?
30:29
Talk about some of our guests.
30:30
Well, then you're gonna ask me for my memory.
30:31
And my memory's a little shot.
30:32
Well, I know, but we've had some good guests.
30:34
We've had some incredible guests.
30:35
And people that, you know, everybody knows to people that nobody knew.
30:40
Yeah, yeah.
30:41
And I think that's been the coolest part about this podcast.
30:44
And the best part is every one of them has a story.
30:46
And what I like the most is even the people who maybe everybody knows, you think you know them and they sit here and we learn stuff about them that we had no idea.
30:57
That nobody...
30:58
and we've even had guests say to us, oh man, I didn't, I wasn't going to talk about that.
31:01
And they could start talking about it.
31:03
You know, we've had every age range on this podcast.
31:07
We've had a 15 year old.
31:09
Yes, we did.
31:11
We had Aariz.
31:12
We had who?
31:13
Aariz, yeah, the young business man.
31:15
15 years old, yeah, that's right, that's right.
31:17
To 89 year old Mr.
31:20
Myshak Senior, who's turning 90.
31:22
Yeah, 91.
31:23
91 this year.
31:24
Yeah, that's right.
31:25
Wow, what a range.
31:27
No kidding.
31:27
And in between, we've had incredible.
31:30
And like you say, we've had well known that in this region or maybe further know about people.
31:37
And then we've had people that nobody knew about.
31:40
And some of the people, some of the well knowns, they've been amazing.
31:44
Like still, they're our friends.
31:45
Yeah.
31:46
Still get to text them or they text us or we talk to them.
31:49
Our biggest supporters.
31:50
Yeah.
31:50
We meet them at an event and they're like, hey, Jennifer, Cam.
31:54
And then there's others who weren't really well known, who we got to sort of introduce their story.
32:00
And those are amazing people.
32:01
We've had a studio audience, Cam, on more than one occasion.
32:04
Yes, we have.
32:05
If you'd like to come be a live studio audience at Coffee In The Park, come on.
32:09
I'll even buy you coffee.
32:10
Come on down.
32:11
I kind of like when we have a studio audience. It's fun! I do too.
32:13
Yep.
32:14
The Brickhouse people, when they came and they brought their whole store.
32:18
The entire team.
32:19
They must have shut down their store because they were all here.
32:23
Or maybe one guy was there selling beef jerky, but they brought everybody.
32:27
They brought everybody.
32:27
And when Mr.
32:28
Myshak, senior came, the whole family came.
32:30
The family came.
32:31
That was pretty awesome.
32:32
And same with the Leders.
32:33
That's right.
32:34
When the Leder family, the whole Leders came.
32:37
We had all the Leders.
32:37
We did.
32:38
That was great.
32:39
I know.
32:40
I love that.
32:41
And then we had people who I never, you never really thought, these are, these are some of them that stand out of my, the bird lady.
32:49
I didn't, I didn't think- From Backyard Birds, Alana Tollenaar.
32:51
From Backyard Birds?
32:52
Yes.
32:52
And I'm going to be honest, I thought, oh boy, I know you, you set that up and it was good.
32:57
It was a good setup.
32:58
But I thought, because I don't really like birds, birds scare me.
33:01
When she was done, I was in awe.
33:04
And the bee people.
33:06
Richard and Amber from Good Morning Honey.
33:09
That bee people one, we could have gone on for another five hours.
33:13
They were amazing.
33:15
They were awesome.
33:16
I didn't know that about bees.
33:18
Now I'm into bees.
33:20
I don't want them to sting me, but I'm into bees now.
33:23
So just some incredible stories over the two years.
33:26
I know.
33:27
And that's been amazing.
33:28
And that, for me, that's been probably one of the most fulfilling parts of doing this podcast.
33:35
The people we've met, the stories we've heard, the experiences, and you walk away.
33:41
How many times have you walked away from, you and I walked away from a podcast going, that was unbelievable.
33:47
Oh, unbelievable.
33:48
Oh, multiple, yeah.
33:49
Yeah.
33:50
Pretty cool.
33:50
I know.
33:51
I know.
33:52
I'm gonna surprise you with a question.
33:54
Oh, you know I don't do well with these.
33:56
I know.
33:57
I get all nervous.
33:58
No, don't.
33:58
Yeah.
33:59
You're gonna be like our guests.
34:00
I'm gonna be like our guest.
34:01
Yeah, because this is a guest question.
34:03
Yeah.
34:04
And I think we should ask each other this question.
34:06
Yeah, okay.
34:09
My memory's just, I don't know.
34:10
No, it's not a memory.
34:11
Oh, okay.
34:11
No, no, no, no.
34:12
Okay.
34:13
Cam, what is the best piece of advice you've been given either personally or professionally that you carry with you to this day?
34:21
We ask every guest this question.
34:23
You know what we're gonna do just before I answer this, we're gonna write a book one day and we're gonna put every, we've got every piece of advice.
34:29
There's been some incredible pieces of advice.
34:33
Maybe for one of our anniversaries, one of our podcast anniversaries, we'll release the...
34:38
Maybe on the third anniversary, we'll release a book.
34:40
Yeah, we'll release the story and the greatest advice book.
34:49
You know, over the years, I've been so fortunate to meet some pretty amazing people over the years.
34:56
And the one, I think the one was that's so simple that stems from way back when I was just a young man starting out doing what I was doing.
35:06
And somebody just said to me, Cam, just don't give up on your dreams.
35:12
Just don't give up on your dreams.
35:14
And you know, you mentioned earlier, I'm a dreamer and I am.
35:17
Some of them could never come to fruition because they're impossible.
35:20
But the ones that I do know that I really hold on to and I just, and this podcast was a dream for me and we didn't give up.
35:31
And we didn't quit after three episodes or whatever.
35:35
We kept going.
35:36
And so, yeah, just don't give up on your dreams.
35:38
Yeah.
35:39
Okay.
35:40
What's the best advice you were ever given?
35:42
I think it's something similar.
35:47
So, it's kind of opposite advice.
35:50
So, I had a teacher in grade 10, 11, 12.
35:54
He was my chemistry teacher.
35:56
Yeah.
35:56
He wasn't very nice.
35:58
No.
35:59
And I remember.
36:00
I didn't even like chemistry.
36:01
I know.
36:02
I remember not getting, like, super high marks in chemistry.
36:07
Right.
36:07
Science wasn't my thing.
36:08
Yeah.
36:08
Right?
36:08
Yeah.
36:09
And he told me I was never going to get into university.
36:13
I was never going to amount to anything.
36:17
And I took that as challenge accepted.
36:21
Absolutely.
36:22
That guy.
36:23
Yeah.
36:24
That's yeah.
36:26
Right.
36:26
That's just wrong.
36:27
And I've been fortunate to do some incredible things throughout the years.
36:31
Yeah.
36:32
And the best piece of advice I received was he was in his 80s.
36:37
He was a World War II pilot.
36:38
Yeah.
36:39
He was the general manager back in the day of the Calgary International Airport.
36:42
Yeah.
36:43
And when I worked at the Aviation Museum, he came in every day and did the books.
36:47
Yeah.
36:49
And he pushed me and encouraged me to be anything I wanted to be either personally or professionally.
36:57
Yeah.
36:58
And he was my biggest cheerleader to the day he passed away.
37:02
Yeah.
37:04
Yeah.
37:04
And you know what?
37:05
I mean, that teacher who told you never go to university or whatever, and here you sit with a master's degree and you are, and I've told you this many times, you are one of the smartest, most brilliant people I've ever met without a doubt.
37:19
I sit in awe because I was, I'm not, just academically and all of that.
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I just, but I sit in awe and I learn from you.
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And in our lives, these people that have come along, the ones who like that guy, luckily you took it as challenge accepted and not, well, what am I going to mount anything?
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But there have been those people who have been in our lives, both yours and mine, over the years.
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And our experiences are very diverse and different, but experiences, the ones who have always just been there and said, you can do it.
37:57
You can do it.
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Right.
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Just do it.
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You can do it, Cam.
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And when others said, it'll never happen, and they were the ones that said, yes, it will.
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If it's going to happen, I know you're going to make it happen.
38:08
That's right.
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That's, you know, and it doesn't matter how old you get, and you want to hear that from people, and those people, and still have those people in your life.
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Yes.
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That do that.
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It's important to have those people in your life.
38:19
Absolutely.
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Yeah.
38:20
Yeah.
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Absolutely.
38:21
Wow.
38:23
We could talk about two years for a long time.
38:27
And again, we've had so many, we owe a lot of this, if not most of it to our guests, because they've been incredible.
38:36
They have been incredible.
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And this podcast wouldn't be where it is without the guests, but without everybody who's listening as well.
38:43
That's right.
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But I just want to go back to our guests for a second.
38:45
Thank you for saying yes to us.
38:47
Like at first we were nobody and you said, yes, sure.
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I'll come do it.
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And still it's not like we're Joe Rogan or anything like that.
38:57
And we call you up and you say, yeah, I'd love to come do that.
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And then like you say, our listeners.
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Our listeners.
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Yeah.
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Because without you, there isn't. What's the point.
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We'd be one of these statistics here.
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We would be.
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And our listeners are fantastic.
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And it still amazes me.
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We go places, we do things.
39:17
We go to different events or meetings or whatever to have a person sit there and go, I listen to every one of your podcasts.
39:23
It's incredible.
39:24
It's unbelievable.
39:26
Thank you for doing that.
39:27
It's awesome.
39:28
Yeah.
39:29
So thanks.
39:32
Thanks for being the best podcast partner you could ever have.
39:35
Well, seriously, I'm not even kidding.
39:36
You are.
39:37
You're the best.
39:38
We have a lot of fun.
39:39
If you quit tomorrow, I quit.
39:41
It'd be done because it just wouldn't be the same.
39:44
Your squirrel wouldn't like.
39:45
No, no, no.
39:46
I just pack it in.
39:47
I retire.
39:48
Retire.
39:49
I'd be like, podcast retired.
39:50
Over.
39:51
Kathie Lee tried to go on.
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It didn't work.
39:53
No.
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The team is the team.
39:56
The team is the team.
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Team stays together.
40:00
Thanks for that day when I said, we're going to do a podcast and you called me an idiot.
40:04
I did.
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And walked out.
40:05
I know.
40:06
You didn't just leave forever.
40:10
Again, thank you to the team at The Wall Coffee Roasters for letting us be here each and every week.
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Yeah.
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Because otherwise we'd be homeless.
40:16
Yeah, we'd be doing it in the middle of a parking lot.
40:21
As the semis are going by.
40:24
Yeah, that'd be kind of brutal.
40:25
Well, everybody, thanks for listening.
40:27
Without you, we wouldn't have a podcast because you're the audience.
40:32
Yeah.
40:32
Thanks, Wing Snob, for being a great sponsor for two years and for hanging in there with us today.
40:38
If you're looking for dinner tonight, check out wingsnob www.wingsnob.ca.
40:43
And thank you again to all our guests for making it happen.
40:47
Thank you, Jennifer, for making it happen.
40:50
And make sure you tell everybody about the podcast because we have some cool guests coming up.
40:56
I'm so excited.
40:57
Wait for July.
40:58
Oh, we got some cool guests.
41:00
So tell everybody.
41:02
Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your coworkers, tell your enemies.
41:06
If you don't have a friend, make one so you can just tell them about the podcast.
41:10
And wherever you get your podcasts, whatever platform, or go to www.coffeeinthepark.com and you can download all of our podcasts there.
41:21
And yeah, it's great.
41:23
So thank you everybody for listening.
41:25
That's right.
41:26
Summertime on your road trip, turn on a podcast.
41:29
Right.
41:29
Or when you're just sitting on the beach with your little earbud things in rather than listening to Taylor Swift.
41:37
I don't know.
41:37
I don't know.
41:39
I don't know.
41:40
Listen to us.
41:41
It'll be more fun.
41:43
Thanks, everybody.
41:44
Thanks, everyone.
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We'll see you next week.