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Unlocking Lasting Weight Loss: The Power of Self-Love and Positive Body Image with Adam Wright · In Moderation

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to in moderation, and today's guest is someone extra special.
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  Speaker 1: We've got TV's Batman, adam West.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to go with.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Driver or Adam Savage.
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  Speaker 2: There was a bunch of atoms.
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  Speaker 2: You picked a lot of atoms.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I hear a lot Adam Adam Conover, that's what I hear a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know, that's another good one, adam Ruins everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I hear that all the time, literally probably Well you did just ruin Liam's Wi-Fi shortly before this, you know always with the struggles.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a big Mythbusters fan, so I was probably thinking out of Savage.
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  Speaker 3: That was all I figured out.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the least popular Adam of all time.
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  Speaker 3: That is your profile.
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  Speaker 2: The least popular Adam of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be so good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, adam, why don't you actually introduce yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Because unfortunately you know you're not Batman, you're not.
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  Speaker 3: Batman, you're not Batman.
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  Speaker 3: So, as far as you know, adam Wright from Adam Wright Fitness, I do a lot of talking, a lot of talking about diet culture and some weight loss stuff, fitness stuff, but mostly like mental changes and mindset changes and trying to help people learn to love themselves, which is shockingly hard in this fitness industry.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: So and he also has fabulous nails.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, nails hair.
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  Speaker 3: You know I'm just having fabulous, just in general.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know, I think Rob and I know a little bit about diet culture.
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  Speaker 2: In some of the ways it's changed things for better, most likely worse.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I think on this podcast, because we talk a lot about, like you know, the mechanisms by the you know how you lose weight.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: But I would love to talk on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Just, of course, fairy dust.
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  Speaker 2: But this one I would love to talk more just kind of about the mindset, because I like a lot of your videos and I like that and I'd love to talk with you just about, because you know you take clients right, you work with clients and so you know you.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe you can talk a little bit about how you work with them and some of maybe the struggles they've had and how you help them, you know, reach something that is sustainable for themselves, because that's really what I think a lot of people are looking for.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: A lot of people have lost weight, but then, you know, a couple weeks later the juice cleanse ends you can always.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely so I love to do all the time Anybody can lose weight.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: You know you can talk about oh it's so successful doing keto three times and it's like if you have to do it again it's not successful.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I really try and really try and emphasize sustainability in all my coaching and videos.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think I think that is everybody trying to lose weight is looking for a magic pill and a quick fix and nobody judges success based on how long you kept it up.
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  Speaker 3: They're just like did it work?
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: And I think the big thing here is everybody needs Liam's tincture.
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  Speaker 2: The tincture's that's, but you know you do make the most money off that.
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  Speaker 2: How much money do you make off of the sustainable?
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  Speaker 3: weight loss and coaching people Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You want them coming back.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly how you make the money, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really missing out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we trust me.
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  Speaker 2: We talk every week about how much money we're missing out on helping people in sustainable ways.
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  Speaker 2: It's lame, but you know it's our lot in life.
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  Speaker 2: So you know those stupid integrity yeah and integrity is a pain in the ass.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I would love to talk just kind of about you know, like you know, with your, some of your, some of the clients you've worked with, what are some of the struggles that they that you see kind of time and time again, Because I'm sure you see like patterns arise right, Like you kind of see with with clients.
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: What are some of the patterns you see and some of the things that they're all kind of struggling with?
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  Speaker 2: You know, maybe not doing as perfectly as they should, as they could be.
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  Speaker 3: You know what a big one is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this is on the top of my brain because I'm working.
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: I'm literally working on a video I'll probably film today about this very subject.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the reasons that people want to make it.
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  Speaker 3: I think people are not making changes for the right reasons.
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  Speaker 3: So often it comes from a place of like, hatred and self-loathing and like I hate who I am, I hate how I look, I hate how I feel, and it's sort of like the carrot and the stick.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like what's driving you really.
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  Speaker 3: Is it the carrot?
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  Speaker 3: Like, are you encouraged?
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to really want to improve the way that I feel, because I love myself and I think that this is going to show my body.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a form of respect and care.
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  Speaker 3: Or is it just because, like I hate who I am and I want to, I want to make this person disappear?
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to run away from who I am and who I am doesn't have value.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have worthiness.
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  Speaker 3: So that person needs to go, and I think it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: You're not really going to see a whole lot of lasting change until you can learn to be led by the carrot.
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  Speaker 3: You know I'm ready to change because I deserve that.
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  Speaker 3: You know I'm worthy of it.
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  Speaker 1: And because carrots are great.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I do so nutritious.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting about that that immediately made me think of is, when I listen to other podcasts or videos, they kind of that people will talk about that, but they'll somehow turn it into this positive thing, or they'll try to, where they'll say like, okay, I was fat, I was this, I was that, and then I hated myself and that drove me to lose weight.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: And look at me now Everyone's like, yeah, so I should hate myself enough to do this and so, like you know, maybe some podcasts and I'd be, like you know, joe Rogan podcast, stuff like that where you know where I've really seen that you're like I hated it, so I needed to change, and it's like well, I guess that is a reason to want to change.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: But I think a much more sustainable reason would be why do you want to lose weight?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I just want to feel better.
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  Speaker 2: I want to do it for my family.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's something I hear often from people.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I want to be around for my children, my grandchildren.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's I feel like right, that's more of a reason that's kind of sustainable and keep you at it.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I always tell I mean, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I think people one don't think about their why enough, you know, I hear a lot like I would just want to lose weight.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, for what?
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  Speaker 3: You want to look jacked for the summer?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, why?
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  Speaker 3: Why is that important to you?
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: You know, like, let's dig a little bit deeper.
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  Speaker 3: Or yeah, it comes out of that self-hated thing.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that I think that really doing it for the right reasons is so important and that's why I really focus a lot on my, on the mental health aspect of it, the mindset of it, because you can't, you're not going to hate yourself to change.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, some people maybe are motivated by more of a tough love thing, but in my experience, if it goes like 10 years, that is not a productive way of change.
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  Speaker 3: It just doesn't stick with most people.
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  Speaker 3: And I tell people all the time like you're not going to get a hard ass coach from me, it's not who I am and I don't think it works.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: I mean I've been in those areas.
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  Speaker 1: I know what that's like.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a drill sergeant, you know, I'm going to be like somebody who supports you and cares about you and lets you know that you're like, you're doing your best and you're doing enough.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: And I think that that sort of a coach or or even just like the self talk is such it's so much more productive and encouraging than than just like.
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, you can.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: Liam swears all the time.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: I completely agree, like when I'm coaching myself, not coaching myself, coaching comma myself.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not in the gym like shouting at these people.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: You know, get the weight up, you suck, get going, like usually it's.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: We're cracking jokes, we're having fun, I'm making the gym a positive place for them and it's one of my favorite things.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: That I say is that you can't have health in a negative environment.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: I?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking because I think we should acknowledge that.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: You know, everybody is different and I'm sure there are people who do get, like David Goggins, for example.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: If you don't know who he is, if you ever want to get shouted out constantly, then go look him up.
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  Speaker 2: You know some people really they do enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand it, I don't get it, but I think those people do exist.
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  Speaker 2: So you know we're not shaming you if that is what you enjoy.
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: I talked to other people who say like oh to, I was just one day I stopped eating all processed foods.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's and that's how I got healthy, is like literally nothing left.
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  Speaker 2: And for 10 years now I've only been eating this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like that is an outlier.
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  Speaker 2: I've rarely see ever people do that, but they, you know it, does exist.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes someone wakes up and just like Nope, I'm done with that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only doing this for 10 years, I'm done with that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only doing this for the rest of my life.
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  Speaker 2: But I wouldn't encourage you to try that first.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it's the way I've put it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the way I think about it, I mean I can totally acknowledge yeah, there are definitely people who are motivated by me for various reasons.
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  Speaker 3: I challenge that and I just say that what can negative self talk do for you?
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  Speaker 3: That positive self talk?
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like maybe you aren't driven by hey, you, fat piece of shit, like get on the treadmill.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe that's what you like, but couldn't you also benefit from hey you're, you are doing an incredible job and you're working so hard, and like I'm really proud of myself for what I've been able to do and I'm going to keep doing it because I love myself, yeah, do we really think that that's not going to motivate you, while, like I'm not going to say the S port again, but like, just like being a jerk to yourself, I just don't.
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: I just don't think I don't know for me, no matter who I work with, even if they say like, yeah, I love it, I want you to be a hard ass, I'm like that's not my style.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I totally agree, it's different.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, it makes total sense to me from a place you catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the same and I'm going with that.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: So.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything?
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  Speaker 2: When you talk with clients, do you have any kind of tips for helping them kind of find what motivates them, Like writing a few things down, looking at it like just just in general?
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know I talk about this a lot.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: I do some group coaching as well, in addition to my one on one coaching.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: We talk a lot about turning negative self-talk into positive self-talk.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: I think one of the first things that we do is kind of like find some gratitude and I think so often we I don't want to be.
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  Speaker 3: It's important that this is not misconstrued as, like you know, an abusive mom telling you be grateful for what you've got.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to seem like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so calling this up and just specifically phrasing it, just to make you look bad now.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that finding some like just acknowledging hey, you know what my body is not exactly what I want, it's not where I'm, you know I'm not super Okay, okay, sure, you know body positive maybe, but I can accept where I'm at and I can appreciate what my body does for me.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: I think oftentimes finding a neutral ground is a really good place to start, because I think so often we come you know we talked about earlier like you could start from this place of negative, like self-hatred, and then the other side of the spectrum is body positivity, which is a fantastic thing, but not everybody can get there, especially right away.
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  Speaker 3: So especially expecting yourself to go from like God, I hate my body to I've got the perfect vessel, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like that's a realistic thing for a lot of people.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: So just getting like from this negative point to a hey, you know what I'm doing, okay, and my body does along for me and it's very resilient and it carries me to and from, you know, to and from work every day and it can pick up kids and it's it's bored children and you know I mean.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: A lot of my clients are mothers, but you know I'm able to, or children in the other way.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're just putting the children to sleep.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: You're so boring.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Now we're back to negativity.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: We look very deep in thought right now.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: I like what you said a lot, because we talk we've talked so many times where we're 37 episodes into this and so we talk a lot about how small steps are important.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: But we keep saying that in terms of you know your diet and making small changes in your diet and exercise routine, but also in your mindset, like that's super important.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: You're not like you said, you're not going to go overnight and then just feel like, oh, this is amazing, just small changes.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: You know you feel a little bit better.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: That's, that's, that's improvement, that's fantastic.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and it goes for anyone.
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  Speaker 2: You know whether you're trying to lose weight.
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  Speaker 2: I was like a teenager and you know I was like the stick thin.
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  Speaker 2: You know like super scrawny and I, you know, you scroll on Instagram.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: You see these people are like absolutely fucking jacked and you're like, oh man, I just, I just want to get to, I just want to get to that.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think for me it was like slowly, over time, realizing like, okay, that that is kind of a Instagram is a no, its own.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: We'll call it an art form, just to be possible.
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  Speaker 1: It's its own kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's not really reality and kind of slowly over time had to sort of figure that out.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: So I, yeah, I just, I really like that.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Just small changes in your mindset over time and you will.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: You will get there.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Don't, don't beat yourself up.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: I call it getting to zero because a lot of people, the way I kind of put it on a numerical scale, it's like a hundred, a hundred percent is, you know, body positivity, and like let's say negative, a hundred is is, is self-hatred.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Let's just get to zero percent, let's just get from a place where we are.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: We just don't hate ourselves.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: That's going to do, it's going to be amazing, right, it would be amazing if you could just not hate yourself.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: It does a lot for your confidence, so you don't have to flip it on its head, but let's find a place of acceptance and understanding that you're doing your best and you know what your body can still do a lot for you and you should still be grateful for it and show show respect to it, even if it's not exactly where you want to be.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: I think there's a middle ground there.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: I like that I really do.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: That's really good.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah, now I'm just I'm just thinking about it, so yeah, I mean, so let's say okay.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: So let's say for, for our example, we get to somebody to kind of a neutral state, you know where is there a specific direction.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: You kind of take them from there to kind of move in towards that positive space.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Is there any, like you know, any tips for that?
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I think I mean for me.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: I really try and help clients find a lot of non-scale victories.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I have moved yes, I really moved away from weighing clients.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't abandon it completely, but I don't weigh them often.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: I sort of try and move away from a bunch of numerical data.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I know that that sounds weird in the fitness space.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: The way that I look at it, I don't abandon it completely.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Like I said, there's still clients that I have tracked certain some calories Sometimes.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: There's still clients that I have, you know, take measurements and weigh themselves, maybe once a week or a month.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: But there's other clients where we don't do any of that.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Instead, we just focus on looking at other like non-scale victories.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: How is your energy level, how is your strength, how is your, you know, how is your mood?
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  Speaker 3: All of these things are really things that can drastically improve and they don't need to be tied to a number because more often than not, that number is just discouraging.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You know, and I'm like guys, you're not going to be able to control that number every day, no matter how close you follow your program.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: So why are you giving yourself the chance to be disappointed by stepping on the scale?
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It was a hot day yesterday, so your body was retaining some extra water, even though you did everything seemingly right.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Now you've had it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Now you're, now you're so, now you're loathing because like you feel like you've failed Right and you know.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm like let's get off the scale.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm just like how are you feeling?
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: That's so much more valuable.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And I think, and it is kind of because diet culture has kind of taught us that your weight relates specifically to your health and of course I think we can all understand that having excess body, body fat can increase your risk for certain diseases.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: We, everybody knows this.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: But also there are many other metrics.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Stress is one thing that really just kills.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: You know your sleep.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I always, I work in sleep medicine.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I tell people if you can just like improve your sleep, that will do like you don't even realize how much that will do for you, for your mental health and everything, Even somebody who's like two people who are at the same weight.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: The ratio of subcutaneous to visceral fat is going to be different If you're doing moderate intensity exercise you can move where the fat storage is to a less you know damaging place.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: You can actually eliminate.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: If you didn't know, you can eliminate visceral fat, which is the fat around your organs.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You do moderate intensity cardio.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: It kind of shifts some of that away.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And so there's there's so many other markers that you can go by.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, and again, and neither of us, nobody is saying to abandon the scale.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: You know it can, it can be, it's one tool.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: It's one tool.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's basically, just what I want to say is it's not the only tool, I think, and I think that's the.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: That's where the that's where the misconception is true, and I know what that's the word.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: That is where people get obsessed with.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: That fixation on the scale is where people fail, because they're looking at that as the sole indicator of success or failure, even on a day to day basis.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And I tell people, if you are weighing yourself every day and again in the fitness industry it's a very common thing to do, but if you're weighing yourself every day, you are giving yourself a chance every morning to be disappointed with your progress and it's a great reminder every day that you're not where you should be.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's a place you should be, but you have a place in your head.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You have a goal right.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Let's say I want to be, I want to be 150.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're at 200 now and every day you're not at 150 and you weigh yourself and you see a number higher than that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: You have failed.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: You know, even if it's a reminder of what you have not accomplished.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And so often I just what I hear from people whenever I do a video, talking about how, if you have one, I'm gonna put air quotes here bad day, or you overate, you did something that you wasn't in your plan.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is, it doesn't fuck up everything Like you have.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: There's 365 days in a year.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You've got many years to do this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So that means math, some numbers, big numbers, I don't know.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of time, so one day is nothing and people are like thank you so much.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I needed to hear that today.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I get that from so many people and so and that's the frustrating part so you start off your day, you weigh yourself, you get discouraged and then that leads into worse and that leads into worse decisions.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's it's so frustrating.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I like the idea of just getting away from scale, especially if you're lifting weights, you're doing all these things, your scales go fluctuate, it's, don't freak out over it, it's normal for the scale to go a little over the place.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have start off with something positive.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'd love for you to start your day with whatever positive things.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Some people like meditation or whatever.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on just starting your day, starting off positive?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Positive affirmation.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I always start journaling for 50 minutes in the morning.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: No, I don't do anything With my lemon water.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It's the detoxify pot I don't do any of that, To be honest, I wake up and I'm like where's my energy drink?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I need.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I serve with a call always.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I really encourage people to you know, have a glass of water.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Like, don't worry about the scale, put that away.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: You know, have a glass of water, step outside in the sunshine, you know, get a breath of fresh air and then go about your day.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I discourage people from getting right on their phone, right on social media right away, 100% agree, that's.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: That can again very much like the scale kind of dictate the first thing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You don't have control over what you see, right then, and I know Okay, One thing you need is to wake up and look at all these fake Instagram photos that have been photo shots, absolutely.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, or Bobby's popping up telling you you know, go, no, I know for me being a huge animal person, and cats especially are like an emotional support animal for me.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I wake up and the first thing is he climbs up onto my shoulders and he's licking my face and he's, you know, hugging, cuddling me, and I just spend the morning doing some stuff with him for a bit and it's just, it's warming and it feels good and it starts the day right.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: What I've seen from a lot that works well for a lot of people is just having a very when I say small, I mean like very small goal, like okay, you got to make your bed, like when you, after you wake up, just something, just something small.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: So you've accomplished a thing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Is that thing minor?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Is that thing small?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, it doesn't matter, but that is kind of to get the ball rolling into better decisions.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: My goal is to wake up and, like you said, I'm going to go outside.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's Ohio here, it's a little cold, but in general, when it's a little bit better outside, you go outside and you get to say a little bit cold when you're right beside a Canadian.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah so you're at the place where you can put the boiling water outside and then immediately just freezes immediately or whatever.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, just get outside, get some sun.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Just a small thing to accomplish to lead you into that next step.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And yeah, one of the worst things you can do is if you get on the scale and you see a bad number, then that's just going to lead you down a worse path.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I think, like you said, like it really does set the tone for the day, it really determines like okay, oh it's down, it's going to be a good day, oh, it's great.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Well, what am I even freaking, doing this for?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Why am I even doing this?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: This is dumb yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Suddenly now I feel like I have to restrict calories for the entire day.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how do you guys?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you a question now how do you guys feel about tracking calories?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: And because I have changed a lot Sorry to interrupt, I have changed a lot of my feelings, I think, since being on TikTok.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Strangely, the way that I've coached has evolved so much and I see value in it sometimes.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: But more often than not, it's harmful, in my opinion, for a lot of reasons.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: How do you guys feel about?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: So I think, when it comes to tracking calories I haven't done it in years, I don't know I think tracking calories for a week or two, something like that, is a good idea.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: That really just gives you a basis of how many calories are in food.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I've seen many videos.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: People are like hey, how many calories do you think are in this pizza?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: They're like 500.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Well, actually there's like 2,500.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: There's a lot more than you realize.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: We're creatures of habit, right.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: We tend to eat the same foods every day.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So if you track for a couple of weeks, you see you kind of know generally how many calories are in a food.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's good for that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: After that, even if it's not damaging, it's so exhausting.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's time it's time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, you go to a restaurant and you're like, oh, what's that?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And their calories can be off by 30%.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And then I got people asking me like, oh, but if it's not right, how much is it off by?
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: And how do I track this?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And this type of fiber only has this calorie, so that has that.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It's just like that's exhausting.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's so tiring.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Even if it's not taxed on your mental health, for a lot of people it is exhausting.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So I think for some people they tell me they love it and they do it all the time and I think those are kind of the people that just eat literally the same things every day.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like those are the type that just have same breakfast, lunch or dinner and snacks every day.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Copy paste and the weekends are different.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Like Friday is the same, and then for Saturday and Sunday are the same, they're a little bit different.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And then I track all that and for most people I say it's just, it's not worth it to constantly do it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it because it's just, it's too tedious, it's too monotonous, it is months and months and years.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, similar to Liam, I tell people yeah, it's worth doing for a week or two just to understand generally how much you're eating, to try and get a visual representation of what calories look like, so that you kind of know what you're looking at when you're eating.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: But, like for a lot of people, if you try to do it over a long time, it will become a needing disorder.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: It can.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It definitely can.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And it's.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It is funny because you'll find some things.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: You're like wow, I never realized like this had so many calories, that had so many calories.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I remember I weighed out like carrots.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like there's like zero calorie in carrots, like it's like a giant plate.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: It's like a hundred calories.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Well, we did start off the episode saying carrots are great.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm thinking about carrots on the brain and but you know, and then other foods, you know your classic foods, like your peanut butters, your avocado.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You do things high in fat Like okay, so that's a few more calories.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: They just have to be aware of that.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: No, not give it that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That's another thing with counting calories.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: That'll throw people off and really mess with them is the fact that we don't absorb 100% of the food we eat.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: And that's true and then.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: But then you get down the rabbit hole of like, yeah, how many calories from this and that?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And you know like, oh, I see corn in my poop.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That definitely means I didn't absorb the calories.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: How many calories are actually in it?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It's like that's.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You know, that's exhausting.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Then you'll.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: then awareness becomes obsession, and that's when it gets very disordered.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then people are weighing condiments.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: You know, oh, we got to weigh this mustard, it's like we don't have to go that far 20, 25, so I hit 30.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Damn it, that's too much.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I have heard on more than one occasion from influencers that you need to be like tracking your cooking spray and they're like you know, when you hold it it's not zero calories, it's actually 10 calories.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: We spray for three seconds Like what are we doing here?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: What are we doing and why are we teaching people this?
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Like I get being aware I get, yes, of course like when you add oil, you add things like there's going to be some extra calories.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Do we really need to be tracking cooking spray and like timing this and figure out what are we doing?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Why are we doing this?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's better to focus on just changes in general.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Just say like, oh, instead of using olive oil drizzling in the pan, you can use the spray.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Like, count it, fuck that, like I'm not going to be counting seconds, that's insane.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But then, you know, instead of this item, have something similar to it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Instead of a regular Coke, oh, you have a Diet Coke.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, something that's similar and just changes, because I've been going over a lot of those.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: For this croissant, you can have 8,000 strawberries and like, you know, like, and I think it is good in a way to see, like, oh, this doesn't have many calories in it, this does.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Like that is helpful.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: But like, no one is like, oh, I want a croissant, instead, I'll have all these raspberries instead.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: That's just no, you know.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, it's just having a change that's more similar to the thing that you wanted.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Those things can add up over time.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: It's the cooking spray thing.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: It's pretty, it's pretty.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I was like talking about the cooking spray thing, like that's another thing with counting calories is when I tell people you know it's worth doing for a week.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I also emphasize that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You know this is a rough thing.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: They're rough.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: You don't need to sit there counting the seconds that you're spraying this cooking spray.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: It's just roughly.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You're just trying to get an idea here.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Even if, even if you're exact, you're not Like yeah, because there are so many factors at place.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you weigh everything perfectly, check everything correct, it's going to be wrong.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And I think that's where people get frustrated, right, because they say I tracked calories and I didn't lose weight.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm like yes, because tracking is it is not, it's not, it's imperfect.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, it's the only way to know exactly how many calories in that food would be to burn it, and then you can't eat it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Right, and then you have to burn your poop afterwards and see how many calories he actually absorbed perfectly.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I think he just came up with a new diet.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: By my poop burner, the poop burner 3000.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You just it looks like a toilet.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: You poop right onto it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: You see how many calories absorbed from food.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Bobby's going to start selling that next week.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Listen to this episode.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I try and I agree.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I told clients that you know it's a, it's a short term thing If we do it at all like.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Let's look, I've had clients do it for a couple of months.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: You know like, but it's on and off and I don't want them to be obsessed with it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Like yeah like there's got to be some limits.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: But I've shifted a lot into more intuitive eating, which is something I had never really heard about until probably I don't know a year ago.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: No-transcript.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Learning to listen to like your body's hunger cues is such a powerful thing that people don't know how to do.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Is that one of those things?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: where, if I crave chips, I'm really craving grapes.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's really about learning how to.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: A lot of people.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I hear this a lot.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I don't feel hungry, I don't get hungry, and what I point out is that, well, do you get tired halfway through the day?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Do you get irritable, do you get brain fog, do you get nauseous, do you get lethargic?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: All of these are hunger cues.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It's not just rumbling in your tummy and people don't understand, they don't realize that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I remember I probably didn't realize that too.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I find myself yawning halfway through the day with a client and she would kind of like joking me, like am I boring you?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize until later that was a hunger cue.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I probably worked through lunch and I didn't realize that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And so just recognizing that can be a really powerful thing.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, let me go ahead and address that hunger so it doesn't become even greater.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: And then I find myself overeating later.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So I find intuitive eating a very interesting and I like, I do like the premise.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I think what you hear, the pushback that you hear, and I'm sure you've heard, all of us have heard is the classic oh, you're just telling people to be slops, you're just telling people because America's already obese.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: You're just, you're just.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You know I'm a devil's advocate here.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You're just telling them to continue doing what they're doing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: And what you know intuitive eating is saying I believe I'm not an expert on it is like actually, people aren't really in tune with what their hunger signaling is.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think what you said I love that, but I also notice is a lot of people eat until they're stuffed, Like they eat until they're so full that they couldn't eat anymore.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: And I say, like that's, I think you've gone a little too far there.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: You want to eat until you're no longer hungry, like I'm not Exactly, yeah, I've had a decent meal.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: If you overeat like you're, it's gonna be like Thanksgiving, you know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: After you have that meal and you're just like oh yeah, what do I gotta do the rest of the?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I got shit to do you know, so like finding that place is important For sure, and that's one of the things that intuitive eating teaches.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of intuitive eating.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: A lot of people will retort oh well, if I just ate intuitive eating, I eat this whole bag of cookies, and that's not what intuitive eating is.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: It is about listening to your hunger cues, but also listening to your fullness cues, and there's a really great thing that I've learned called the hunger scale that I teach my clients, and it goes from zero to ten and it teaches you that you should be eating, probably when you're about a three or a four, avoiding an overly hungry zero one and two.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat anything in front of me.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Please, I'll eat a horse.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly A buoyant place, eating at a three or a four and then stopping when you're a six or a seven, now when you're at a ten, now you're at you know, eight, nine or ten, which is only four.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: So it's kind of finding that little safe area to start eating and when to stop.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: It helps prevent overeating and actually you know you talk about.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I would just eat a bag of cookies.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: There is a lot of freedom in intuitive eating, but what it also teaches you is like yes, you can have, you could have a whole bag of cookies if you wanted to, but if you're learning how to listen to your hunger and fullness cues, you're not going to want to eat the whole bag of cookies.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: You might have a few, but you don't want.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point of it is learning not to eat when you're distracted.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Not to, you know, not let yourself get too hungry.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Not to demonize foods and put them off limits and make them even more tempting.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: You know all of these things.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, adam, you help back me out.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Back me up here, please.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Bananas are great.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: They're a great little snack on the go.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You know what bananas are up.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: No, bananas are terrible.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: They're off limits, do you?
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: see what I work with here on this podcast.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: It's like a prison.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: It's like a damn prison on the Patreon when I was announcing the giveaway for everybody who doesn't hasn't heard yet.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: We're having a giveaway for our 25th episode and all you have to do is join our podcast for free Patreon.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah thanks to Joggo Fuel Patreon.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, join our podcast.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Join our podcast for free.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, join a Patreon for free and thanks to Joggo Fuel for that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But I told people out there, if you guys go to Joggo Fuel and you buy a banana smoothie, protein smoothie thing, you're dead to me.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Let's get rather short.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: It says bananas are bullshit.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, and he just goes around.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm right next to him, Okay.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Well, now you've ruined it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: This is worse.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So while he does that nonsense, I'd like to go back.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: So I'd like this idea, though, like so if we're looking at a hunger scale, right, and we're at like a zero to 10.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So like zero is like zero one, whatever.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: One to 10.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I'm on like a desert island.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I haven't eaten in months and, holy shit, I'll eat anything in front of me.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And then 10 is after your Thanksgiving when you're just like I'm going to throw up.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So when you get to like a three or you know, like a three, maybe you're getting some of like the hunger signalling and some of the rumbling, whatever, but also, like you said, there could be other things.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: You might be feeling a little tired, a little just out of it, that sort of thing.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: And when you start eating, I like, and I like what else.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So you said, eating while distracted, because that is something that so many people do, and I listen, I get it, we're all busy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Like, listen, listen, listen, everybody got stuff going on, we're all busy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But like you go into the car with like a bag of chips or whatever it is you know fast food, you know I'm not demonized fast food, I love me some fast food but like you're just, you just.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: You don't even realize, right, like you start eating and then you get to your destination, everything's gone and you don't even remember what happened, right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And then now you're at a nine.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: You're already so full yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, and you didn't take, it wasn't satisfying, you didn't taste it, yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: And now you want something else, just to kind of like because you're like, oh, I'm still hungry.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not hungry, but I feel like I'm hungry because I didn't eat.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I did eat but I didn't feel like, hey, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's to take the time, because it takes usually like what 15 minutes or so for the food to really the signaling to go through, and you're like I ate food.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: So if you just kind of scarf it down, it will take a little while.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: So eat slowly.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: We talked about this, was it last week or?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: last week with Gabs, yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Gabs, we were talking about how, like shoe your food, like that seems like a small thing, but like your food, like your mom told you, to 20 times.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, slowly, don't be just scarfing it down and and really focus on when you're not hungry anymore Not not full, not stuffed, but hey, I'm no longer hungry, so I'm I'm gonna stop eating and I'll eat later.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Another thing I have to say is people, especially in North America.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You get, we get that that you have to finish your plate.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: You grow up in your like, in your parents, are like you need to eat everything on your plate.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to eat everything on your plate, it's okay.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can put it in the fridge.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: That's a huge one.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: That's a huge one.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I I that that probably, that is probably the biggest challenge that I deal with with clients is teaching them how to like show some gratitude.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Thank you for thank you for filling me up and now I can put you away.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I can throw you away.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: There's a.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: There's an analogy I made to to my my group call the other day.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: You guys know who Marie Marie Kondo is.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, she's in.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she's an organizational guru and she'll teach people.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Does it bring you joy?
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: So she's like, yeah, the sparking joy, right, like if it, if it sparse joy, great, keep it, if not, go away.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: She teaches people that when you throw something away or you give it away or whatever, to thank it, you know, hey, thank you blanket for keeping me warm.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: You've done your job and now we can kind of give it away.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I thank you for nourished me.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Now, here you are.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Here's the dog, here's the dog food.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I know it sounds silly.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I know it sounds silly, Rob, but if you kind of did that, because a lot of people feel bad and they feel like they're wasting it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like you're not wasting it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: It did its job.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: It's done.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It was supposed to nourish you and it was supposed to kind of satisfy you.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: If it's done, that you don't need to finish it anymore and you can put it away, it's okay, and a lot of people don't give themselves permission to do that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And I joked about giving it to the dog for this that's something we actually do is well, if we have some leftovers that maybe we can't eat, or maybe we just didn't like them, whatever we'll give them to the dog, as long as the dogs, you know they're good for the dog.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: We make sure that the food is okay for dogs.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I'm done with my plate of chocolate and here you go.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: It was a weird plate.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I was hungry and I think, yeah, it's interesting because, again, like you said, we feel bad about throwing the food away.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: But think about the alternative.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: The alternative is you force yourself to eat it Now.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You've done yourself a disservice.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You're actually in a worse place than where you started, so save it for later, throw it away.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: It's okay to throw it away.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: We've always been told people are starving other places.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you're not starving now and it's not helping them at all.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: And you're not sending them to plate.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: They're not going to get the plate if you don't eat it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: That's not how it works.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: So, like I understand that mindset because we should be grateful for what we have, I totally understand.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: But it's okay to not, it's okay.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It's okay Everybody listening it's okay to not finish your plate.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: We're telling that right now, and I like that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: We should be grateful what we have.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what Adams just said, but be grateful what you had.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you had to eat all of it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You can still be grateful for it, yep.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Absolutely so.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Learning how to respect your body by stopping when you are comfortably full is a really big, powerful step in the right direction to prevent overeating, to prevent this like restrict and binge cycle, you know.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: So it does a lot for people just learning how to listen to their fullness.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about it's.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: It's so funny with with kind of like with diet culture.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: So what you'll see a lot of videos on is like hey, here's a meal that you can eat until you're absolutely stuffed and you won't want to eat anymore and you'll lose weight.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I've seen that with like the one woman that just eats all the fruit.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Like I don't remember.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I don't remember who she is, but she eats just like 32 mangoes in like one sitting or whatever, and all these things.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: And she's like, well, well, yeah, yeah you, you will lose weight because you won't be able to eat anymore and you'll be so stuffed.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: But is that, is that enjoyable?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Is that fun?
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Like I don't think so.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's expensive as fuck.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, volume eating is a very popular thing, you know.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I get it on paper makes sense, right, like we're just eating a lot of things, eating as much as we want, but it's in it's low calories.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: The problem with that, if you take that too far, is it kind of you're essentially permitting yourself to binge.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe on low calorie stuff, but, like you're not teaching yourself to listen to your hunger and fullness, you're just eating as much as possible.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is a halo top in the full pipe.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: It's only $15.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like, what are you doing?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: You're teaching yourself that it's okay to have whole pints of ice cream, low calorie or not.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: That's not, that's not a way that we should be thinking about food.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think that that's why I really try and teach clients how to moderate their portions, listen to what their body is telling them, because so often, yeah, we're just taught to eat as much as possible, low calories, you know, high volume.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: And there is a place for that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: And this is the balance where this is just fucking tough, because there's a place for that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: You can have a plate and you have like I do it all the time like I want a couple Oreos, you know, like the peanut butter pie ones, by the way, which you know.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Please get there.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Also, I got black and white cookie recently Also.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Are those better?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll discuss this later?
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Isn't that just regular Oreo?
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, see, see okay so what they take, it's the vanilla on the outside the cookie, and then the inside is both black and white.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: It's split down the middle.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: There's something about black and white cookies I love.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It's like both worlds coming.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, the point is Oreos are great.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: This is the whole point of the podcast for everything else.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: we said Oreos are great.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: That's what you should take home.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Oreos are great.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Done, don't be a worse.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And Oreos are great.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Goodbye, 45 seconds.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Shortest podcast.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, I put a couple Oreos on the plate, like two or three, and then I, you know, I like other things, I like carrots, I like berries, I like whatever, I like kimchi, I like all these things.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: So you know, adding, adding volume can be helpful.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: But, like you said, yeah, it can just get to this point where people are like I dare you to gain weight eating this, and then people will take that as like a literal dare, and then you know you're eating exactly like I don't know.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Five drinking five protein shakes in one, in one sitting, is like yeah, that's, that's a lot.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I like what you're doing there, liam, in the sense that, listen, I'm going to grab what I want, in the sense like, let me, okay, I'm going to grab these two black and white Oreos, whatever.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got to find.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: You got to find with all the other Oreos.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: He didn't know.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Oreos are my, that's my, that's my jam, so I'm going to find them.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: But you grab what you want and then you add what you need.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to grab these two Oreos and then also I'm going to put it with some Greek yogurt and some berries so that it's more satiating, it's more satisfying.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You still get what you want, but you, but also you've set yourself up for success by adding some protein, adding some fiber and, wow, I'm satisfied until my next meal.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: So having adding what you want and having what you need to balance that out and set yourself up for success.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: I think is is a great way to go about making your meals Even as a snack.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so often I see like the oh, this tastes just like Domino's.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: First thing you're going to do is get out your tortilla wrap and, like I'm already, I already know this is going to taste like, or it's going to taste like, domino's.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I'm already got Oreos on the bright side.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: It's not going to taste like Oreos either, but it's definitely not going to taste like Domino's.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Instead, have half a slice of Domino's, put it with the salad you know, and and oh, that's one of my favorites.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: It's so good.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Some bull house farms.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I keep getting people reporting my videos because I'm sponsored by it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Neither is this podcast, by the way, but it's a really good dressing.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I like it.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I have you know, speaking of dressing, one of the things that I have recently a change that I've made in my own diet is actually allowing myself to have some good dressing and not trying to go in these goddamn olden farm these old gallery stuff, the skinny girl dressing, oh my God.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: How did I ever?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: It's diet culture, man, I don't know how.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I mean what happened to me.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: I was I was.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: I really was convinced that they were so good.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like what?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: was I doing.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: And then you eat it and you're hungry, like 30 minutes later, because you got no fat, you're not absorbing the nutrients, the fat soluble vitamins, because there was no fat in the salad, and you're just sad.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Everything about it is sad.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Wow, Liquid like like watery ranch, so good.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: If this is mustard, vinegar and water, yay, yeah, I go, I find myself some really good dressing, and that's that's worth that.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: So, and then you can really enjoy your salad and it's not miserable.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: That's Adam's tip for the day.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Hot take.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: You're such a good dressing.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Don't have a miserable salad, you're such a good dressing, so that you can actually enjoy your salad.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, what I'd like to rewind to quickly is going all the way back to talking about people's why and you said, like the example of somebody saying, maybe they want to have a better body for the beach and that's.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: That's not a why.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: That's what you want.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Why do you want that?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: One of the things that I was taught when I first became a trainer is to get to someone's why, and oftentimes you should ask yourself that question five times why?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Why go to the beach?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, why, well, because you know I want to.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I want to have a six pack, okay, why?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I've always been self conscious about my stomach.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Why, well?
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: My, so pretend you have a three year old at your house.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: That's basically what you asked why?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Why it's so it's such a good way to actually discover.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: You know, until you can't answer that question anymore, then you really haven't uncovered anything.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: And yeah, go ahead.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, kind of like because you've worked with a lot of clients over the years, so do you have kind of a few ideas in mind for like things you've seen from people who were able to change their life in a sustainable but way?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: It might not be weight loss, it might be something else, but just things in common between them that you see are like, okay, the people that do this generally they're able to stick to their plan longer and you know it just works.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I basically understand Are the things you see that work generally, that you that you see a common theme, why that makes sense, why I would say some of the characteristics of people that stick with it are people who are.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: they have a good driving force, a good motivation.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: They have a reason.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think having a good support system is also helpful.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Boy, this is a really good question.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I would say that having an affinity to like go at this with an open mind is a good way to go about it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Being able to change your mind if you're not stuck in your ways.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: You know right, yeah, because I mean, the hardest part is unlearning a lot of what we've been taught, and it's honestly it's decades sometimes of I've been told this and I don't miss and this is how I've done it, and so a willingness to say I'm going to put this behind me and I'm going to try your way at them, or I'm going to like, adopt this new mindset, I think that can be a very, I think that can be a really positive thing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Probably most of all, I would say an ability to focus on the process instead of just the results.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: The end goal yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, enjoy the journey.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to be honest.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: That's why I really focus on helping people improve their relationship with food, their relationship with exercise, because so often you just hate what you're doing, I hate what I'm eating, I can never have what I want, I hate exercising, it's not fun for me.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And then, well, what the hell, how long do you think you're going to be able to last that way?
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So, when you can have true joy in eating and the experience of eating and feel like, hey, I have control and I can eat what I want, but also I don't feel out of control, and then also I can go to the gym or I can go walk, or I can go skateboard, or I can go ice skate or whatever physical activity you'd like to do.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: You do that.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: You like playing hockey Great.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Well, hockey you have to in Canada.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: It's a normal fact.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: It's a normal fact, but if you like it, you're going to do it more often.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: You know, go play.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I recently got one of these VR headsets.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's go.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Did you get the question?
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Did you get the question?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I got the question.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you up, I'm going to hit you up.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you up All right, and then my zip code, pearl.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to air episode number three live fromgirl skewer.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: And you got the operator, me, and I'm still sweating my ass off Like it's it's, it's crazy, you, and also like you're kind of stressed in the game also because like it is stressful, so that you're sweating for that, like it's just yeah, if you have, that obviously costs money all these things, but if you have the opportunity to, I.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: this is what happens when you actually make TikTok money.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen you know, listen, be an American.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you want.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: To come to the land of the free home of the TikTok?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I know you want, but yeah, go ahead.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Go ahead with the VR.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: It's awesome, but yeah yeah, I just finding anything.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: Anyway, that was the reason I brought that up was, yeah, like we have said, like it's so much fun and finding joy and movement.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: There was a time I mean to be honest, like even now like there comes a limit, where I'm like I'm over the gym.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I don't want to go over time, right?
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, like some, it's not everyone's favorite thing and sometimes you get bored of it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: So finding another way to find joy and movement is so important, it's so valuable.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And then enjoying, you know, having some joy around food too, and not having an enemy is it will change your life.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: It was insane to me when Papa Swolio was attacking cozy cardio, the cozy cardio, such a great way for people to find joy and movement, absolutely.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: That was infuriating, because that's brilliant.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Cozy, cardio is brilliant.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I wish I'd have thought of it.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: To be honest, it's such a great way to get people moving and enjoy movement.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: You know you're talking about, just like you're demonizing walking.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Yes for anybody.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Not because people might not have heard of it, it's hope came up with them.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get her on the podcast at some point, but basically in her own home she has her like protein coffee.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: She has comfy clothes on.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: She'll do like either a walking pad or like and watch her favorite show or show that she wants to, something like that.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Just that's the whole idea.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Is it's supposed to be comfortable?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be inviting, it's supposed to be warm, it's supposed to be, you know, enjoyable at the end of the day.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's a beautiful way to get moving and to encourage activity, and yet to just shut that down, for what?
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: For your masculinity.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It's for views, it's just, it's rage.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Big is what it is at the end of the day, and it sucks, but like it does get people angry, and getting angry on the internet is what drives the algorithm, all that stuff.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: So what I really hate is just that the people who attack those people who might not want to sit at the gym for three hours, they feel validated when some influencer posts that yeah, absolutely.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great for us.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: But I love what you said, though.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Like I mean enjoying the journey and, at the same time, being able to change your mind, like I think that's so in all aspects of life, like that's that's important.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's great leaders throughout history.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I'm a weird history buff.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like an old man and like a thirty two old body I don't know if that makes sense but I love, like I love history and that's something you see as a common theme, as people actually able to change their mind and accept new ideas based on information at hand.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: That's something we've said about.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: What makes a great influencer, or influencers that actually have your health and your interest in mind, is that they're open to changing things and hearing different points.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: So if you, if, you've been taught something your whole life.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I know, on learning that can be difficult, but, man, if you can just enjoy the journey and go, oh, you know what, that's not working Ever.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: I've been told it's supposed to work, but you know what it ain't.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm not going to do it.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try something else and maybe that'll work.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: And it's OK that it's not working for me.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: It's just something that doesn't work for me.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe I respond to something else.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: That's OK, absolutely.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody's different.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: You have to find what works for you, yeah.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I remember I did a video on that there was going over like the bowl situation where, like you have to eat off small plates and there was a creator that she was like I like to eat out of a massive giant bowl and people in the Internet lost their goddamn mind.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: They were so angry at her like no, that's not how it works, you idiot.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: You're supposed to eat off small plates, dummy.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Like she got to the point where she turned the comments off in her video because people were just being just really angry.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like you know what.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I understand that you've kind of been told that this is the thing that works, but for that person it doesn't work and the opposite works and that's great, like that's fine, dude, it's fine, that's what you get when you have an opinion on the Internet.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Why are you?
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: so angry?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Why does the littlest things make people so angry?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dummy.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Actually, it's not the littlest thing, Liam.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Actually, I want to tell you you're wrong.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Little things like the color of my nails.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, I bet.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I painted one nail and I got so many comments, did you?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: really yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: I hear.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I hear all the time.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Somebody just told me that I have my hair up in a in a bun, In a bun bun.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Somebody told me they couldn't take me seriously and I lost all credibility because they called it a harder daddy handle.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: They said cut the harder daddy handle.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: And then I took me a minute I had to figure out oh, they're talking about my hair.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I was like what a weird thing to be upset about, Right?
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: How does that impact my?
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: credibility?
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I don't understand.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Oh man, liam can't get over what that's called.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I can't Like.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: It's just like.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: There's so many things I, you know, I've with Morticia, you know I've done, I've done collabs with Morticia, who is a brilliant and you should.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: She's a microbiologist but because she has makeup on and you know, and then she has, you know, body Modifications, people like oh, immediately, I won't listen to her, I'm like okay, right.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: But, the shirtless guy yelling about broccoli.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Like that's cool, like I don't understand, he's got the physio.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So that's all that matters.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I literally like hey, this doctor says this.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: There was a cardiologist like but look at them, look at both of them, or I bring up Eddie of you and they'll like compare your muscle and I'm like to the steroid of you who's fully admitted that he has kidney and liver damage, like what?
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Are you doing.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: They didn't say this non-ironically too.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: They absolutely mean it?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Oh it's.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: The world is an interesting place.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: That is what I've learned from from doing social media.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting place.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: That's what we signed up for I guess.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: As soon as you get online, they will judge you for your just looks.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: It's just immediate God and we're saying this as like white men too Like imagine, like we already we already set it up, as like we already have, like the privilege of the privilege, yeah, we still get shit.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine being just like, yeah, a black female or a female minority?
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: trying to give her information, I feel like I had a video about a trans rights scheduled to post as we started this podcast.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to opening to talk right now.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: It is going to be full of people angry at me, for, you know, trying to make the world better for everyone, how dare I?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: This is what I have learned.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: I think that I don't know how.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I started just a bit before you guys on TikTok, and what I have learned is that it is never wrong to stand up for what's right.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: You can.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: If you speak on something and you use your platform for something that you know is good, you know is right, then fuck everybody else.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: I do not care at all.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I will speak about.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I've talked about my opinions on Robi Wade.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: I've talked about my opinions on the, the, the.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: I've talked about my opinions on all sorts of things that I feel are important, and people can have different opinions, but honestly, this is my page and if I feel like it's right, then it's right and I don't feel bad about having those opinions.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: What should you?
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: This kind of took a turn, didn't it?
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically, we're going to end with the dope beer.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Worse.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Oreos are great and fuck them.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Those are the three?
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, but transphobic.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Are we the good guys?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Are we the demonstration of?
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: It's okay to give some men microphones?
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's pretty dangerous to give Liam a microphone.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: He didn't actually go into like a 10 minute rant, this one.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because I think I've been keeping so calming.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: No well, there's there's that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: But also I've been keeping my daughter awake in the next room over, apparently, with my yelling that my wife, while I was recording last week's episode, sent me a link to Amazon for sound muffling things that I can put on the wall because I scream so much so I'm going to try and be a little less crazy.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Just a little hint from the way.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Just you know, that's but yeah, good old Amanda.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've been, we've been chatting for around an hour now.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know Time flies when you're talking about an hour, yeah, so please, you know, give us you know, like, where people find you, where you make your content your it's, your ats, your things, your bobs.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: You can find me at Adam right fitness on Tiktok, instagram, YouTube.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I'm always at, so you'll find me there.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Same handle, every platform.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: And what's your favorite?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting back place.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite Oreo before you go?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, my favorite is I have an answer for this.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: This is a tough one.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: You're going to make a lot of people mad, no matter what you say, so just be prepared.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: It's your stand up for what's right.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: That's social media for you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, you're going to piss people off.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go with the classic, not the double stuff, just the classic, the regular Oreo, just the, the original O G Oreo yeah.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: I think he can't go wrong.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: It's a safe choice.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I guess I did, so it's probably going to piss the least number of people off, so it's probably