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Navigating Grace: TV Obsessions, Celebrity Etiquette, and Handling Generational Differences · All About The Joy

• 0:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi everyone, Welcome to All About the Joy.
• 0:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia and Rick are in the house.
• 0:04
  Rick Costa: It's going to be a very intimate evening.
• 0:08
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just the three of us fiveys, so we're going to talk about a few subjects.
• 0:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I just want to finish up one little thing that we were talking about before Rick joined us in the green.
• 0:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I was going to say the greenhouse, the green room, and just say this for a moment um, we were talking about the show 9-1-1 and 9-1-1, lone star, and where did we finish with that?
• 0:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia?
• 0:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I think we were talking about grace and her husband there's two different ones yeah, so there's 9-1-1, which is all in los angeles, right, and guess where the other one is, which?
• 0:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Is 9-1-1, lone Star, texas, and it takes place in Austin, because even I noticed some places in there.
• 0:50
  Carmen Lezeth: But, cynthia, I know what I asked you.
• 0:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Which one did you like more?
• 0:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, the original, which is 9-1-1.
• 1:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, the LA one yeah.
• 1:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, look, I didn't mind watching the rest of 911 Lone Star, but it wasn't as easily for me to digest is all I'm going to say.
• 1:17
  Rick Costa: So I did it because you forced me to.
• 1:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Now, Rick, how are you Doing good, doing good.
• 1:25
  Carmen Lezeth: How's everything?
• 1:25
  Carmen Lezeth: So, rick, I sent you a demo draft of our store.
• 1:26
  Carmen Lezeth: So it's not up yet, it's not live, but we always tested the products before we give them out to everyone, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks we will get to you.
• 1:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi Adam, how are you Okay?
• 1:39
  Carmen Lezeth: First on our agenda, what was the most joyous thing that happened to you this week?
• 1:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, you go first.
• 1:53
  Cynthia Lopez: I already know what you're going to say.
• 1:57
  Cynthia Lopez: I think I think, I think.
• 1:58
  Carmen Lezeth: So everybody knows that I got the job.
• 2:00
  Cynthia Lopez: So on Tuesday I actually sent out an email to all the doctors and all the employees, everybody, so you know, kind of letting them know and everything like that.
• 2:08
  Cynthia Lopez: And what shocked me and actually felt really good was the first person to come up to me and actually give me a hug and congratulate me and everything is a doctor who everyone like is scared of.
• 2:22
  Cynthia Lopez: And yeah, because, like, her attitude can change with the blink of oh.
• 2:26
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah, because her attitude can change with the blink of an eye, oh, she's a great doctor.
• 2:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I love those kind of people.
• 2:33
  Cynthia Lopez: She's a great doctor, but she was the first one to come and give me a hug and congratulate me and everything and that felt great.
• 2:39
  Rick Costa: That's awesome.
• 2:40
  Carmen Lezeth: That's really awesome.
• 2:41
  Carmen Lezeth: How did everyone else take it?
• 2:42
  Carmen Lezeth: They must have been bored.
• 2:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, everyone's devastated Because you did everything, everything, and you've been there.
• 2:47
  Cynthia Lopez: how long, oh eight and a half years Wow, that's a long time.
• 2:53
  Carmen Lezeth: For seven of those years, she's been hating every minute of it, because ain't that the truth for all of us, right?
• 3:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Like the first time we're like oh my God, new job, new job.
• 3:05
  Cynthia Lopez: Got a raise.
• 3:05
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah, I've been through four managers, like doctors leaving, some coming back, new doctors coming in, definitely new employees.
• 3:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, well, that's why they're bumming, because you did everything and you were like the steady person throughout all of it.
• 3:25
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
• 3:26
  Rick Costa: We're going to miss you so bad why?
• 3:28
  Rick Costa: Because we're going to have to work so much harder now.
• 3:30
  Rick Costa: Oh not because you miss me.
• 3:32
  Cynthia Lopez: Like now we have to do some work.
• 3:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, again, congratulations.
• 3:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm really proud of you and I read your resignation letter.
• 3:42
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just going to say this the fact that you didn't ask me to edit or to consider it or whatever.
• 3:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like she is so on point.
• 3:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Usually she'll be like Carmen.
• 3:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Before I send this, can you look it over for me?
• 3:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll give her like whatever advice I can.
• 4:00
  Carmen Lezeth: But it was so well done, perfect in every single way, and I was like, oh, this cause she on point.
• 4:06
  Carmen Lezeth: She knows.
• 4:09
  Cynthia Lopez: I got to send you the one I sent to all the doctors and some of them actually started crying when they were reading it.
• 4:14
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 4:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh great, He'll be in the room and tan baby Rick, what about you?
• 4:25
  Carmen Lezeth: How was your week and what's something that gave you joy?
• 4:30
  Rick Costa: uh, well, one thing my son sent me a text and I saw there was an attachment.
• 4:33
  Rick Costa: I was like, hmm, what's this?
• 4:34
  Rick Costa: And he got his um official temporary license to do the physical therapy now.
• 4:41
  Rick Costa: So he can literally do it now part-time, part time for now, okay.
• 4:45
  Carmen Lezeth: But he's a doctor.
• 4:46
  Rick Costa: Right, but he still has to go through licenses and all this stuff.
• 4:49
  Rick Costa: Oh okay, so it's good until September.
• 4:52
  Rick Costa: He takes the test in July.
• 4:53
  Rick Costa: He's smart, I know he's going to pass, so that's really cool.
• 4:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Yay, I am so glad what.
• 5:00
  Rick Costa: The other thing, too, was since he's here, and I'm not saying it just because he's here I really love listening to you and mario here to your uh private lounge.
• 5:07
  Rick Costa: It was fun, it was good.
• 5:08
  Rick Costa: I even watched school days.
• 5:10
  Rick Costa: Is that the movie y'all talking about?
• 5:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like oh, that is quite a movie I was gonna ask about the mario thing, um, but what else are you saying?
• 5:19
  Rick Costa: I'm sorry yeah, yeah, no, I just I meant you guys, you know how I am when you mention a movie, I automatically going to see if I can find it and watch it.
• 5:24
  Rick Costa: And so I saw that movie and I was like oh wow, yikes, yeah, there's some interesting parts in this movie.
• 5:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Absolutely but remember it's.
• 5:32
  Carmen Lezeth: How old is it?
• 5:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean.
• 5:34
  Rick Costa: Yeah, for the time.
• 5:35
  Rick Costa: Yeah, like a lot of stuff I saw there, absolutely not.
• 5:40
  Carmen Lezeth: No, but yeah, it was interesting, it was thought-provoking, so yeah, yeah, I was surprised that that was his number three, but I understand why too.
• 5:50
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 5:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it was his number three, right, I forgot, I can't remember now.
• 5:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't remember now.
• 5:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it was his number three.
• 5:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm surprised because his favorite movie was the Color Purple and I've never heard anyone else but me.
• 6:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I was kind of mad about it too, like that's my move, like you don't.
• 6:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, so it was.
• 6:09
  Carmen Lezeth: It was really well done, um, and it was fun, and I, I will say this and I I'm not surprised by this, but I am.
• 6:15
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't have a lot of uh subscribers on youtube, I don't, but his video, um, the live, uh, I mean the pod, what am I calling it?
• 6:27
  Carmen Lezeth: The private lounge.
• 6:29
  Carmen Lezeth: It'd be great if I knew my own stuff, but whatever the private lounge with mario is the most played and it was like within I don't know five days or something.
• 6:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Wow, yeah, it was really weird.
• 6:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not weird, but I, I, you just never know what people want to watch and he's just so charming and lovely.
• 6:48
  Carmen Lezeth: But the podcast is like if my top was Juliana before, that was still the top one.
• 6:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario's like up here.
• 6:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Wow, he either has a huge following I don't know about.
• 7:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like, okay, we're going to have Mario part two, three, five.
• 7:08
  Cynthia Lopez: So Mario's booked for the next few months, so I'm going to do a weekly private lounge with Mario.
• 7:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Only we are going to do a second one.
• 7:19
  Carmen Lezeth: He wanted me to do a second one with him so we could talk about some other stuff.
• 7:23
  Carmen Lezeth: So we had already decided we're going to do it.
• 7:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Second one with him so we could talk about some other stuff.
• 7:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, so we we had already decided we're gonna do it, but we're gonna do it a little bit, but it was.
• 7:27
  Carmen Lezeth: It was so well done.
• 7:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I was really psyched, um, wow, okay, cool.
• 7:31
  Carmen Lezeth: No, you didn't tell us about how your week was at work or life oh, work wasn't too too bad.
• 7:38
  Rick Costa: Thankfully shorter work week because I was off on monday, thank god um yeah, that's, it's those little things, man.
• 7:45
  Rick Costa: It really is.
• 7:46
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I was thinking it was going to be crazy busy on Tuesday because I'm like I got to deal with whatever Friday, saturday, sunday, monday and Tuesday morning.
• 7:53
  Rick Costa: But no, it wasn't bad at all.
• 7:55
  Rick Costa: I was shocked, but yeah, it's been pretty chill.
• 7:57
  Rick Costa: I'm like thank you God.
• 7:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, you just jinxed it break.
• 8:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You just said it's been pretty chill.
• 8:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Tomorrow will be a day.
• 8:04
  Rick Costa: It's the last day.
• 8:05
  Rick Costa: I don't care.
• 8:05
  Rick Costa: It's the last day of the week.
• 8:06
  Rick Costa: Hit me, hit me baby one more time.
• 8:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Right.
• 8:10
  Carmen Lezeth: So there's really kind of two things that happened this week that were great.
• 8:17
  Carmen Lezeth: One of them I put in the email is so I have a trademark and people know that it had already been okayed, but you have to get the official certification.
• 8:25
  Carmen Lezeth: So it's not a big deal, but to me it just makes me feel so official to have All About the Joy, be trademarked and just fun.
• 8:37
  Carmen Lezeth: The other thing is the store.
• 8:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I've been working with the logos and just trying to set them up and it's not that it's that difficult.
• 8:46
  Carmen Lezeth: It's difficult for me Cause I I come home, if I'm lucky, by five.
• 8:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, thursdays I try to come home by like five, 30, but usually I'm out till six.
• 8:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Whatever, you know what I mean.
• 8:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Like it's just, and especially cause we have this drama going on, it's really hard for me to then edit and da, da, da and da, da, da and then, on top of it, be a quote unquote designer for for a store.
• 9:11
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, so I'm excited about that.
• 9:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I also and no one needs to go to the website yet Cause it's not finished, but I did change the website.
• 9:20
  Carmen Lezeth: All of your pictures are up there on the front pages.
• 9:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm also going to set up the bios for everyone.
• 9:29
  Carmen Lezeth: That's next on the page, and then I'm going to set up the store and then we'll force everyone to buy products and go to the website.
• 9:36
  Carmen Lezeth: That will be our next push.
• 9:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Just kidding.
• 9:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not going to push anyone to do anything, but I just think it looks better and I don't know.
• 9:44
  Carmen Lezeth: We'll just see how it goes.
• 9:45
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm excited about those things, you know.
• 9:47
  Rick Costa: That's really cool.
• 9:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, okay, one of the other questions I had, which was kind of random because it happened to me this week Did someone break your heart this week?
• 9:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Was there something positive that came from this experience?
• 9:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Go ahead, cindy, I won't break my heart.
• 10:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, you don't know, I'm sure Rick does.
• 10:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, look at, break your heart may be the wrong wording, I didn't know how else to say it like I'm so disappointed in something that happened this week with someone and it broke my heart because I had so much faith in them.
• 10:19
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's what I mean.
• 10:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't mean break your heart.
• 10:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you know, some romantic relationship unbreak my heart.
• 10:25
  Rick Costa: What I mean.
• 10:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't mean break your heart like some romantic relationship Unbreak my heart, oh, whitney Houston, no.
• 10:31
  Cynthia Lopez: Unbreak my heart.
• 10:35
  Carmen Lezeth: No.
• 10:35
  Carmen Lezeth: You don't know this, she may not be the other one oh Toni.
• 10:40
  Cynthia Lopez: Braxton.
• 10:45
  Rick Costa: I was about to fight you I was like how do you not know?
• 10:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I know, I know Mara's going to come in and yell at me.
• 10:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys are about to yell at me, not a big fan.
• 10:54
  Rick Costa: Oh, I am, Believe it or not.
• 10:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't believe any.
• 10:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Did she sing some spiritual song?
• 11:00
  Rick Costa: No, I just love her voice.
• 11:01
  Rick Costa: She just does something to me.
• 11:03
  Carmen Lezeth: So you know when I started not liking her.
• 11:06
  Rick Costa: Uh-oh, did she do something you didn't like?
• 11:08
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I just did that whole cheesy reality show.
• 11:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like, okay, no, oh, I didn't see that.
• 11:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, did you see that Cynthia?
• 11:14
  Carmen Lezeth: No, yeah, I don't know.
• 11:16
  Carmen Lezeth: She has a great voice but so does an Anita Baker.
• 11:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, fly voice, but then fly voice.
• 11:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But then once I hear about what she does at the concerts, and you know, I don't know, I lose respect for people pretty easily, like like madonna not showing up at a concert at eight o'clock and showing up at 12 instead at 12 pm.
• 11:36
  Carmen Lezeth: and you've heard that right I didn't know she's oh right in boston, right, yes, she was three hours late, wow.
• 11:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And here's the thing it wasn't one time, it's not like oh my god, we're so sorry, it's a consistent thing and another thing that she did in the middle of the concert.
• 11:58
  Cynthia Lopez: She actually stopped the concert because I guess people were smoking in the arena oh, madonna she stopped the concert and got on the mic and was like you guys need to stop smoking.
• 12:10
  Cynthia Lopez: It's messing with my vocal cords.
• 12:12
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah, like scolding people Like you are in an arena to perform.
• 12:16
  Cynthia Lopez: You really think these people are going to not smoke.
• 12:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, it's also like there might be a different way to say it, or I don't know like she was like scolding them, yeah, but.
• 12:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But I mean, I look at, I don't want to go to a concert with people smoking, hence why I don't like.
• 12:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't like crowds, I don't like people smoking.
• 12:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I hate the smell of pot, you know what I mean.
• 12:40
  Rick Costa: Like, whatever, it's v special seating, but it's true because you don't have to be in the mix.
• 12:47
  Carmen Lezeth: It's true, vip Honey again, tom Kibuji, I am okay with that, I'm good, I just choose not to go.
• 12:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But it's tone and when it's all about you, right, it's selfish.
• 13:01
  Carmen Lezeth: And, yeah, people are paying.
• 13:02
  Carmen Lezeth: If it was a free concert, do what you want, scream, screaming anybody you want, they can walk away, no big deal.
• 13:13
  Carmen Lezeth: But if people paying hundreds of dollars you know what I mean shoot charlie, oh, my man, charlie, backstage, or no way.
• 13:17
  Carmen Lezeth: See, charlie is with me, he is so with me, I agree%.
• 13:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I told you one of my favorite concerts and I'm not in love with the Police or Sting, I know Sting's albums, but was going to his concert and being backstage because we were given tickets from somebody's boss in the line of work that we do and it was pretty incredible.
• 13:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And it was pretty incredible Actually, I don't know why I'm hiding his name, it's Dustin Hoffman, is very good friends.
• 13:47
  Carmen Lezeth: So one of my friends worked with him and she called me like that day.
• 13:53
  Carmen Lezeth: It was like what are you doing tonight?
• 13:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I'm free, why you want to go have dinner?
• 13:56
  Carmen Lezeth: She's like nope, be ready, I'm going to pick you up in an hour.
• 13:59
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was like where are we going?
• 14:01
  Carmen Lezeth: So it was kind of cool, but it was cooler because I could enjoy it and not have anxiety, you know.
• 14:06
  Carmen Lezeth: But Madonna got to have everybody who is making someone pay for something and that much money for you to sing your songs.
• 14:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think I would take that from anyone.
• 14:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you know, I think Aretha Franklin was a god.
• 14:24
  Carmen Lezeth: You know Whitney Houston was a god.
• 14:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Whitney Houston was a god.
• 14:26
  Carmen Lezeth: George Michael could get away with it for sure, but I'd be okay.
• 14:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Or Prince Prince could probably yell and scream at me.
• 14:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I'd be like, oh my god, thank you, I appreciate it.
• 14:38
  Cynthia Lopez: You should probably join in, I know.
• 14:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, frank, at the Greek Theater.
• 14:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait, 10th row center.
• 14:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I need backstage.
• 14:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Still, charlie, there's still too many around me.
• 14:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just messing with you.
• 14:55
  Carmen Lezeth: What else are we talking about?
• 14:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait a second.
• 14:58
  Cynthia Lopez: Hey, hey.
• 15:03
  Maurio Dawson: How are you?
• 15:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Mario.
• 15:05
  Maurio Dawson: I am fantastic.
• 15:07
  Maurio Dawson: I'm just trying to get my screen together so I can see you guys, because I can't see anything.
• 15:10
  Maurio Dawson: There you go Hi.
• 15:13
  Cynthia Lopez: Hey.
• 15:14
  Carmen Lezeth: The famous Mario Dawson.
• 15:17
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, stop it.
• 15:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you hear what I just said earlier?
• 15:21
  Maurio Dawson: I heard.
• 15:22
  Carmen Lezeth: The podcast is unbelievable.
• 15:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know what you did.
• 15:25
  Carmen Lezeth: You must have lots of family.
• 15:28
  Rick Costa: You told them all you said if you don't watch this thing.
• 15:30
  Maurio Dawson: You may not be invited to the family barbecue.
• 15:32
  Maurio Dawson: I just said you know.
• 15:34
  Maurio Dawson: Welcome to the cookout.
• 15:35
  Maurio Dawson: Come on through.
• 15:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick, what did you just say, babe?
• 15:39
  Rick Costa: I said he told everybody in his family if you don't watch this thing, nobody's invited to the family barbecue.
• 15:44
  Maurio Dawson: Nope, yeah.
• 15:44
  Maurio Dawson: And now welcome to the cookout.
• 15:46
  Maurio Dawson: You can't have no ribs.
• 15:47
  Maurio Dawson: That's the trick, that's it, you cannot come to the cookout.
• 15:53
  Carmen Lezeth: That's awesome.
• 15:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I also want to give Mario some other credit.
• 15:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So Mario had suggested weeks ago that we should start with talking about what's one of our joyful things that happened that week or whatever, and so now, after going through my to-do list, I was like, oh yeah, right, right, right.
• 16:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I got to ask everybody it's a good idea.
• 16:16
  Maurio Dawson: But it's a good way to start the show, because it's called All About the Joy, so the first thing you want to start to talk about is joy, and then you can go into everything else, whatever, it doesn't matter.
• 16:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, no.
• 16:24
  Carmen Lezeth: So see, that's a good piece of criticism, and I just want to say this as well it's how you give criticism or advice, it's that tone that matters.
• 16:35
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 16:36
  Carmen Lezeth: And, like I said before, if I don't have respect for you and I don't care who you is and you have a bad tone, it's you know what I mean.
• 16:46
  Maurio Dawson: Like that to me is all in the delivery, for sure.
• 16:48
  Rick Costa: For sure.
• 16:49
  Rick Costa: But it's a good point because I'll tell you right now.
• 16:51
  Rick Costa: I saw, I clicked the video.
• 16:53
  Rick Costa: I was like, okay, the title sounds interesting, I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm going to give you another minute.
• 16:58
  Rick Costa: The topic wasn't discussed.
• 16:59
  Rick Costa: Still, I was like, okay, bye.
• 17:01
  Maurio Dawson: Right.
• 17:02
  Maurio Dawson: I was like okay, bye, right, so it draws you in, and once you're in, then they'll say okay, what else are you talking about?
• 17:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, you know what the problem is too.
• 17:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, this is interesting because I was speaking to a producer from another podcast or whatever, who has like thousands, like 45,000 listeners.
• 17:21
  Carmen Lezeth: That's like unbelievable.
• 17:23
  Maurio Dawson: Wow.
• 17:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I wanted his uh, his advice.
• 17:29
  Carmen Lezeth: You know right, and he listens to my show, which is good, which is good, but he was saying that you can talk about it being all about the joy, or if your podcast is about space or whatever, whatever he's like.
• 17:42
  Carmen Lezeth: But what needs to happen is the show at some point needs to be branded so that when people come, they already know that's what they're, you know, coming to see.
• 17:51
  Carmen Lezeth: The other problem that he said is your show is about something good and, just like the news and just like anything else, people gravitate towards the drama of conflict and whatever.
• 18:03
  Carmen Lezeth: And we don't really have that much conflict unless it's funny, between each other or whatever.
• 18:08
  Carmen Lezeth: We're not really fighting about politics or religion or sex or whatever he's like.
• 18:14
  Carmen Lezeth: It's going to be slow.
• 18:15
  Maurio Dawson: Unless you want to.
• 18:16
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm not going to.
• 18:17
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I don't want to.
• 18:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't mind talking about relationships.
• 18:22
  Carmen Lezeth: There was a big to-do about penises a couple weeks ago with Ted.
• 18:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just look at all of you are like whatever, what is this conversation going to be like if you're all doing that?
• 18:35
  Carmen Lezeth: And also, I don't want it to be a show that kids can't listen to.
• 18:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, and I don't mean children.
• 18:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Children I mean like my teenage goddaughters or something.
• 18:45
  Carmen Lezeth: So yeah, anyways, all right.
• 18:51
  Cynthia Lopez: Wait, wait.
• 18:52
  Cynthia Lopez: What brought you joy this week?
• 18:54
  Maurio Dawson: Well, not this week, but last week.
• 18:56
  Maurio Dawson: You know, I was on vacation in Mexico, so I had a wonderful time that brought me tons and tons of joy.
• 19:01
  Maurio Dawson: We stayed, we, we stayed.
• 19:04
  Maurio Dawson: I'm sorry we stayed at this wonderful place in Cancun.
• 19:08
  Maurio Dawson: It's called Pueblo Bonito, sunset Beach.
• 19:11
  Maurio Dawson: They have four or five different resorts that they're all interconnected.
• 19:16
  Maurio Dawson: We did the all-inclusive.
• 19:17
  Maurio Dawson: I know how Carmen feels about all-inclusive, but this one was pretty great.
• 19:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Again, I can't help it.
• 19:26
  Maurio Dawson: It was a great, great vacation.
• 19:29
  Maurio Dawson: We got to celebrate my daughter's 21st birthday while we were there.
• 19:32
  Maurio Dawson: It was birthday, it was graduation, it was all the things you know.
• 19:37
  Maurio Dawson: My anniversary is coming up what?
• 19:40
  Maurio Dawson: Into the 4th of July, so you know my wife, don't forget that.
• 19:45
  Cynthia Lopez: Well, it's kind of hard to forget.
• 19:45
  Maurio Dawson: How can you?
• 19:46
  Rick Costa: forget the 4th of July.
• 19:46
  Rick Costa: Don't forget that.
• 19:46
  Rick Costa: It's kind of hard to forget.
• 19:47
  Maurio Dawson: How can you forget the 4th of July?
• 19:47
  Maurio Dawson: You can never forget the 4th of.
• 19:49
  Cynthia Lopez: July.
• 19:51
  Maurio Dawson: We just had a great time.
• 19:53
  Maurio Dawson: Did you check the beds?
• 19:54
  Maurio Dawson: Real careful?
• 19:55
  Maurio Dawson: I did.
• 19:56
  Maurio Dawson: I flipped my bed.
• 19:57
  Maurio Dawson: I flipped the bed.
• 20:02
  Maurio Dawson: We stripped the sheets.
• 20:03
  Cynthia Lopez: I ripped through the closet with my you have to tell people what that's about.
• 20:07
  Maurio Dawson: That's so funny with my with my black light at rest.
• 20:12
  Carmen Lezeth: My wife had me wiping down phones and wiping down the lamps and wiping down the doorknobs boy, I'm telling you, I was like I'm sorry I've traumatized so many people with the bed bug story, but it's good that you don't know.
• 20:29
  Maurio Dawson: Sorry, I'm going to tell you a secret.
• 20:30
  Maurio Dawson: Well, it's not a secret because I'm going to put it out here in the public.
• 20:32
  Maurio Dawson: My neighbor had bed bugs and she had the nerve to say that they came from me.
• 20:37
  Maurio Dawson: And I've lived in my place for 15 years and I never had a bed bug in my life.
• 20:41
  Maurio Dawson: And she's that I never had a big bug in my life.
• 20:43
  Maurio Dawson: Is she gonna blame it on me?
• 20:44
  Maurio Dawson: I was like you know what?
• 20:46
  Rick Costa: Yeah, she got it.
• 20:49
  Carmen Lezeth: And she hasn't done anything about it to like-.
• 20:52
  Maurio Dawson: The owner did.
• 20:53
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, the owner of the building had to.
• 20:56
  Maurio Dawson: But yeah, what you're not gonna do is put that on me, so yeah, so she must have beaten them and gotten bit or something.
• 21:05
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not something you just like.
• 21:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, hey, I have bed bugs, You're going to have stuffage?
• 21:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, I'm sorry.
• 21:10
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey, too much bed bugs.
• 21:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Why are we being quiet?
• 21:23
  Rick Costa: Is she?
• 21:24
  Maurio Dawson: watching.
• 21:24
  Maurio Dawson: Her wall is right next door, so I have to go out like that grab like she's listening.
• 21:31
  Cynthia Lopez: She got the cup on the wall okay, okay, you must have heard the podcast and everything.
• 21:37
  Cynthia Lopez: And she's like, oh, I'm gonna blame it on him.
• 21:39
  Rick Costa: I heard the word bed bug.
• 21:40
  Rick Costa: Let me see he gonna finally admit it well, I'm gonna get him today.
• 21:45
  Maurio Dawson: She's like you're gonna learn today, I, I'm going to get you today, today, today that's showbiz.
• 21:50
  Maurio Dawson: My job was vacation.
• 21:56
  Maurio Dawson: I heard the question about what made me sad.
• 22:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't say what made you sad.
• 22:04
  Carmen Lezeth: No wait, we haven't finished with Rick and Cynthia.
• 22:09
  Maurio Dawson: I was driving.
• 22:09
  Maurio Dawson: I was just trying to jump in and get in.
• 22:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, they did not answer.
• 22:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait what, Rick?
• 22:16
  Rick Costa: He's already here, might as well roll with it.
• 22:18
  Carmen Lezeth: What we've got.
• 22:19
  Maurio Dawson: I don't want to be rude it wasn't a question.
• 22:21
  Carmen Lezeth: It wasn't what broke your heart this week.
• 22:24
  Maurio Dawson: What broke my heart.
• 22:26
  Carmen Lezeth: What disappointed you?
• 22:30
  Maurio Dawson: My father did very much so.
• 22:32
  Maurio Dawson: It's always drama when you have families come together for special occasions and they don't act right.
• 22:37
  Maurio Dawson: It was that We've always had an up and down relationship, but he really disappointed me while he was here.
• 22:47
  Maurio Dawson: I'm not going to go into what he did.
• 22:49
  Maurio Dawson: He knows what he did and it was you know, it affected my whole family.
• 22:52
  Maurio Dawson: But we moved on.
• 22:54
  Maurio Dawson: We're good, god is good.
• 22:56
  Carmen Lezeth: So what did you?
• 22:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Was there anything out of?
• 22:58
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, you seem okay with it, but was there something?
• 23:00
  Maurio Dawson: No, I'm not okay with it, but I'm going to be.
• 23:02
  Maurio Dawson: You have to keep moving forward because you can't live in somebody else's trauma.
• 23:05
  Maurio Dawson: His trauma is not my trauma and you can't.
• 23:08
  Maurio Dawson: I'm not going to allow anyone to pour their trauma on me and affect my life the way he has in the past.
• 23:14
  Maurio Dawson: So you know, god bless him.
• 23:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I understand 100% and the hardest thing is to realize that just because people are your family or biologically related to you, or whatever terminology you need to use to justify it, does not mean people have the right to treat you a certain way, and it's really hard for a lot of people to walk away from family and I think it was the best thing I ever did.
• 23:43
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, and I love my dad.
• 23:45
  Maurio Dawson: But we've always had this rollercoaster of a relationship since I was a kid and I always want to make sure that I do everything right by my parents, no matter what.
• 23:59
  Maurio Dawson: And, Rick, you know the Bible says honor thy father and thy mother that thou may be long upon the land.
• 24:06
  Maurio Dawson: Thus saith the Lord.
• 24:07
  Maurio Dawson: So I was raised in that, I was indoctrinated with that to honor my parents.
• 24:13
  Maurio Dawson: So I always do my best to do that.
• 24:16
  Maurio Dawson: I'm very close to my mom and my dad and, like I said, we have an up and down relationship.
• 24:20
  Maurio Dawson: I brought him here, wanted to make sure he was here for my daughter's graduation.
• 24:24
  Maurio Dawson: Things did not go the way we expected, but that's okay.
• 24:27
  Carmen Lezeth: But but that's all right, so that was my sad part well, good for you for finding a way to deal with it yeah, for sure, everyone has to, because you can't make your someone else's trauma your trauma people do it all the time they try.
• 24:43
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, yeah, and it's okay, we move forward.
• 24:46
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, gotta do.
• 24:48
  Rick Costa: My dad's passed, but there's nobody on this planet Earth that ever could get me as angry, riled up, emotional as my father Nobody.
• 24:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me try.
• 24:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me try.
• 24:56
  Rick Costa: No, I'm just kidding, can't do it.
• 25:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Sorry, it can't happen.
• 25:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Was there anything that disappointed you this week, but you found something positive out of it?
• 25:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Or did anyone romantically disappoint you?
• 25:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just kidding.
• 25:16
  Maurio Dawson: Come on in the room it has to have broke your heart.
• 25:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone always thinks that means a romantic thing.
• 25:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I just mean anyone in person.
• 25:24
  Rick Costa: I wasn't sure what I was going to say, but then we said the word romantic.
• 25:26
  Rick Costa: It sparked a memory.
• 25:28
  Rick Costa: This happened today.
• 25:29
  Rick Costa: A woman.
• 25:31
  Rick Costa: Oh God, what revealed this is from Periscope days.
• 25:36
  Rick Costa: This woman Now she didn't say it to me, but she said it to others who told it to me Because, you know, nobody can keep a secret this woman said God told her that I was going to be her husband and I'm like well, until God tells me you are delusional he didn't put me in that conference call.
• 25:58
  Rick Costa: I didn't get that conference call.
• 25:59
  Rick Costa: Once in a while she'll hit me up.
• 26:00
  Rick Costa: Pray for me, blah, blah, blah.
• 26:01
  Rick Costa: Today I got to hope she ain't watching because she's going to hate me.
• 26:04
  Rick Costa: Today she sent me a message.
• 26:05
  Rick Costa: My landlord is going to kick me out tomorrow.
• 26:08
  Rick Costa: Do you have any money so I don't get kicked out?
• 26:10
  Rick Costa: I'm like do I have the word bank on my forehead?
• 26:12
  Rick Costa: Who told you I had money?
• 26:15
  Cynthia Lopez: You're already her husband.
• 26:18
  Maurio Dawson: You are cleaved.
• 26:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Playing alimony or something.
• 26:23
  Rick Costa: That was disappointing.
• 26:24
  Maurio Dawson: I guess you are cleaved If she's asking you for money now, come on.
• 26:31
  Carmen Lezeth: That's weird.
• 26:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I wonder why people think it's okay to do that.
• 26:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I had that happen with a couple of friends friends from school who logged on to Facebook, added me as their friend or whatever, and I was like, oh, we went to school together, whatever, and then like the next day, an email.
• 26:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And this happened not just once or twice, it happened like three times.
• 26:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, I'll tell you who they are later.
• 26:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, it's that weird thing where they they just look at whether you have money or not.
• 26:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I would never not have spoken to someone for like 20 years or 10 in my case, because I'm not that old, no, I'm just kidding, but like 20.
• 27:05
  Carmen Lezeth: One of them was like 30 years ago, so like high school or whatever, and ask me for money.
• 27:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I guess you'd have.
• 27:14
  Carmen Lezeth: You're probably in a very tough place and so you're asking everyone.
• 27:18
  Carmen Lezeth: But I don't know.
• 27:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I've never been in that kind of position and even when I was a kid and homeless I would never ask anybody for money or help.
• 27:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I guess I would take help, but I'm not a kid, we're adults.
• 27:32
  Carmen Lezeth: There has to be a relationship.
• 27:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you send out the money?
• 27:37
  Rick Costa: Again, I don't got the word bank on my forehead, no, oh.
• 27:46
  Rick Costa: And then another person this was today too.
• 27:48
  Rick Costa: On Venmo I got a message saying a request for money because he can't get to work today or tomorrow and this gets money.
• 27:56
  Rick Costa: I don't know if it's for gas or whatever.
• 27:57
  Rick Costa: And I did send him money twice, actually Not big amounts, small.
• 28:01
  Rick Costa: Is this someone you know Barely?
• 28:04
  Rick Costa: But then the last time, the first time I was like this is a gift because your kids are going to be hungry.
• 28:09
  Rick Costa: And I feel bad.
• 28:10
  Rick Costa: Second time he says I'm going to pay you back.
• 28:13
  Rick Costa: Well, he never paid me back.
• 28:14
  Rick Costa: Now he sent me a Venmo request for money.
• 28:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like he never even paid me back for the first time.
• 28:22
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I almost said what I was thinking it might be a scammer yeah, hey, kevin, hi Kevin.
• 28:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I almost said it might be a scammer yeah.
• 28:30
  Maurio Dawson: Hey Kevin, hi Kevin, hey Melanie I almost said it might be a scammer.
• 28:33
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, but I'm going to tell you we have a friend who just reached out to us and said hey, I'm doing this, can you send me some money Just randomly out of the blue.
• 28:44
  Maurio Dawson: And I said well, not right now because I have other things going on.
• 28:50
  Maurio Dawson: My family, you know, this is my daughter's year for school.
• 28:53
  Maurio Dawson: Gary graduated as we just started school Things.
• 28:56
  Maurio Dawson: You know, other issues no, I can't do it.
• 28:58
  Maurio Dawson: Then they came back again Can you do?
• 29:10
  Maurio Dawson: You think you can?
• 29:10
  Maurio Dawson: I was like, no, I can't really do it.
• 29:11
  Maurio Dawson: Then you come back a third time.
• 29:12
  Maurio Dawson: I said I'll tell you what you send me, your Zelle information, and when I have it, you'll get it.
• 29:15
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys are much nicer than I am no, no, they're still waiting.
• 29:18
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, I know, Kevin just said can I get a $5?
• 29:23
  Cynthia Lopez: $5.
• 29:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me read what Melanie just said as well Makes me glad that I wasn't popular in school.
• 29:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I wasn't popular in school at all because I was never really there, but I was not in any group so much.
• 29:40
  Carmen Lezeth: But I don't know, it's that people make an assumption about you after they haven't seen you in high school for 20, 30 years, because they've looked at whatever images are on social media or whatever, or whatever they think they've decided.
• 29:54
  Carmen Lezeth: And yeah, I mean that's why it was so random.
• 29:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But, mario, the reason why I said you're so much nicer than I am is, well, you and I kind of already talked about this.
• 30:02
  Maurio Dawson: I'm just like no, I don't give a reason like no I mean, I can, I can be a straight shooter, but you know, I try to lead with grace first, but then if you can't catch a clue, then I just leave you on read, you know, and then you just wait for those three dots.
• 30:23
  Cynthia Lopez: Right, but what's?
• 30:24
  Carmen Lezeth: the three dots.
• 30:26
  Maurio Dawson: Huh.
• 30:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that an iPhone thing?
• 30:28
  Maurio Dawson: Well, no, it's just any phone now.
• 30:30
  Maurio Dawson: Anytime someone's typing, there'll just be three dots and you're still waiting for them to reply and you just never reply.
• 30:37
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, I know, did you guys get?
• 30:38
  Rick Costa: that, cynthia?
• 30:38
  Rick Costa: Yeah, they're typing, but you can't see what they wrote yet.
• 30:41
  Rick Costa: But you can tell they're typing something because it goes oh like on Instagram.
• 30:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't get that on my Samsung, but.
• 30:47
  Maurio Dawson: I do.
• 30:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Instagram yeah.
• 30:49
  Maurio Dawson: No, I get it on my Samsung too.
• 30:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I don't know.
• 30:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, is that the chat box thing or chat oh?
• 30:59
  Cynthia Lopez: I don't use it.
• 31:00
  Cynthia Lopez: I still use it.
• 31:00
  Carmen Lezeth: The regular way.
• 31:01
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why, okay, somebody saw my phone the other day at work, somebody was my boss's wife and like, when I have my phone and my text messages coming it's really big.
• 31:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I don't even mess with the regular.
• 31:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I always make everything really loud and people like that's what old people do.
• 31:17
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I don't care, I can read it easily, no problem.
• 31:20
  Carmen Lezeth: But she was laughing.
• 31:23
  Carmen Lezeth: She's like carmen, what is wrong with you?
• 31:25
  Cynthia Lopez: you're like an old lady old lady, call me anything, my life.
• 31:28
  Carmen Lezeth: You're like an old lady.
• 31:29
  Carmen Lezeth: What was your old lady?
• 31:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Call me anything you want, my life is-.
• 31:32
  Maurio Dawson: You've got the bougie old lady now.
• 31:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I do.
• 31:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It's really big.
• 31:36
  Carmen Lezeth: That's funny.
• 31:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, look, I think it's great that you lead with grace and I try to, but I also think sometimes for me anyway in my past times of explaining too much, I end up then still getting a request again or an even bigger, sadder story and they don't get the point.
• 31:55
  Carmen Lezeth: And to me it's a little classless to just see someone again for the first time in years and then be like in the next breath I'm really bad.
• 32:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you send me money?
• 32:06
  Carmen Lezeth: This person needed bail money and was asking, I guess, everyone and asking everyone to give them 500 bucks.
• 32:22
  Cynthia Lopez: Do you know who it is?
• 32:22
  Cynthia Lopez: Is she?
• 32:26
  Maurio Dawson: laughing at you or is she laughing at me Cause I'm confused?
• 32:28
  Maurio Dawson: I laughing at me because I'm confused.
• 32:31
  Rick Costa: I don't know why I'm thinking of that song.
• 32:34
  Rick Costa: What have you done for me lately?
• 32:38
  Carmen Lezeth: oh my god yeah, and I was like that's not going to make me feel sorry for you at all, because I haven't talked to you in years and I don't know what you did, but I'm afraid for you because this will be our last.
• 32:49
  Cynthia Lopez: The fact that they told you that it was for bail money.
• 32:52
  Cynthia Lopez: I would have responded like see you on Monday.
• 32:55
  Cynthia Lopez: Oh no, it's a long weekend.
• 32:57
  Cynthia Lopez: See you Tuesday.
• 32:58
  Cynthia Lopez: The first time I got to see it.
• 33:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't even see it.
• 33:04
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I wasn't even using anything on time.
• 33:07
  Carmen Lezeth: It was on Facebook and your just weren't connected, you know, to your messenger phone or whatever, like my.
• 33:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't get Facebook messages on my phone Cause I still have it disconnected, but when I go onto Facebook I can see.
• 33:21
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I just made it unread and left it Cause I was like, and then, like you know, like a day later they were like this is what it's for bail money.
• 33:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like wrong you know I'm in the hospital, you'd help maybe give it a breath.
• 33:40
  Maurio Dawson: She's been there with the wrong story.
• 33:42
  Maurio Dawson: That was the wrong story story.
• 33:45
  Maurio Dawson: It's true.
• 33:46
  Maurio Dawson: That was wrong for a 20-minute sentence.
• 33:54
  Maurio Dawson: You are SOL, you will keep waiting.
• 33:57
  Maurio Dawson: If you wait, no, me no, it won't happen.
• 34:01
  Carmen Lezeth: So, that's kind of weird, but true anyways.
• 34:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait, cynthia, you didn't answer.
• 34:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait, did Rick finish?
• 34:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel like he didn't.
• 34:10
  Carmen Lezeth: No, that's pretty much it, okay, cool, all right, go ahead, cynthia.
• 34:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Well.
• 34:15
  Cynthia Lopez: I was a little disappointed with one of my co-workers, um, the older woman that works at the front with me.
• 34:19
  Cynthia Lopez: Like she, yesterday I came home.
• 34:23
  Cynthia Lopez: I was so upset because I literally dealt with everything yesterday on my own because she decided that was the day she was going to clean her desk and get rid of all her old papers.
• 34:36
  Cynthia Lopez: Get you know, do some ordering of supplies.
• 34:39
  Cynthia Lopez: Oh yeah, the whole day did she?
• 34:42
  Carmen Lezeth: did she say anything when you, when you told her that you were moving on and getting a?
• 34:47
  Cynthia Lopez: job.
• 34:48
  Cynthia Lopez: She's sad about it because she's one of the ones who's going to have to do some work now.
• 34:52
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Rick Costa: I know.
• 35:00
  Carmen Lezeth: She's also much older.
• 35:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, she is.
• 35:04
  Maurio Dawson: You know what this is?
• 35:05
  Maurio Dawson: That's the baby.
• 35:07
  Carmen Lezeth: I need violin.
• 35:10
  Rick Costa: I almost said, I would have got homesick.
• 35:14
  Cynthia Lopez: I would have got homesick.
• 35:15
  Cynthia Lopez: I was close, I really wanted to it's so crazy Wow.
• 35:22
  Maurio Dawson: I would have.
• 35:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm having issues with people of an older generation, you know, like the what's that generation, what's?
• 35:31
  Maurio Dawson: the baby boomers.
• 35:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I'm having some issues and not happy about it, but like that's why I said that she's older, cause I, okay, I called Juliana the other day.
• 35:41
  Carmen Lezeth: We had a Juliana is my God daughter, for those who don't know and she's 15.
• 35:45
  Carmen Lezeth: And I called her the other day and asked her, like okay, what does she think as an older, you know, gen X person?
• 35:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Does she think I may or may not be doing?
• 35:56
  Carmen Lezeth: That may not be working when I talk to someone of Gen Z generation?
• 36:01
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, cause I was trying to see maybe there's something generational.
• 36:04
  Carmen Lezeth: And she was so cute in her answer Cause she was like you know, maybe, and she gave me like this list, and then she was like you know what, I don't know.
• 36:13
  Cynthia Lopez: I love this one.
• 36:14
  Cynthia Lopez: You know what I don't know?
• 36:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I love this you know what I mean.
• 36:16
  Carmen Lezeth: So it was really cool.
• 36:19
  Maurio Dawson: It was fun um he said, these kids are built different.
• 36:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know oh, she needs to retire, then you know what I'm trying not to be old enough to retire?
• 36:30
  Maurio Dawson: she definitely is, but it's sad that financially she can't in this economy yeah, yeah, sometimes it's just like that, but if you're going to continue to work, then you gotta be willing to do the work.
• 36:44
  Carmen Lezeth: You understand what I'm saying like this person that I have that's older, just is not techie at all, and that's actually not a bad thing.
• 36:56
  Carmen Lezeth: If you then find other ways to let us know what's going on, you can call me.
• 37:00
  Carmen Lezeth: If you don't know how to text, write or whatever, or you don't know how to answer email, you can call me, and if I don't answer, leave a message.
• 37:07
  Carmen Lezeth: I will get to it, I'll call you and we can go.
• 37:10
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's what, look.
• 37:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't expect everyone to know everything as times change.
• 37:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I know at some point, and right now I can tell you there's some things I don't know.
• 37:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I just just said it right now.
• 37:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, the chat box.
• 37:22
  Rick Costa: You know what I mean.
• 37:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I don't so I think it naturally happens as we get older we get wiser, but then we're probably not in on the newest thing happening.
• 37:30
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm trying not to be ageist, because we will be there all someday.
• 37:35
  Cynthia Lopez: Yeah.
• 37:36
  Carmen Lezeth: You do have to do is find a way to do your job If you're going to keep it.
• 37:39
  Carmen Lezeth: That's for everybody.
• 37:42
  Maurio Dawson: As my grandmother would say, just keep on living here.
• 37:44
  Maurio Dawson: Just keep on living, cause you'll get there.
• 37:46
  Maurio Dawson: You know we'll all get there.
• 37:48
  Maurio Dawson: And again, my word of the day grace.
• 37:56
  Maurio Dawson: And again my word of the day grace.
• 37:57
  Maurio Dawson: We had to show a little grace to our old and to our elders.
• 37:59
  Maurio Dawson: I know it's hard, because it's even for me, with my mom.
• 38:00
  Maurio Dawson: You know, my mama is of a particular woman, of a particular age, as she says, and she has problems with phones and apps.
• 38:07
  Maurio Dawson: Now she really she's trying and like she's doing, but I can guarantee you next week she's like can you help me with this?
• 38:14
  Maurio Dawson: With this bank app, again, I got locked out.
• 38:16
  Maurio Dawson: I'm like, okay, well, well, what do you?
• 38:19
  Maurio Dawson: What do you do?
• 38:19
  Maurio Dawson: I'm like she's trying to do on like like her online bill pay.
• 38:23
  Maurio Dawson: Now, that is, she's on the struggle bus so that she needs a permanent bus pass on the struggle bus.
• 38:37
  Maurio Dawson: She is struggling, but I have to ask her son, as a younger person, I'm going to always go, but then, what's even better, she has a granddaughter who's even more proficient but has less patience.
• 38:47
  Maurio Dawson: These younger kids, they're so just tech savvy, they're just doing everything at 1,000 miles a minute.
• 38:56
  Maurio Dawson: I said, dude, this X, y and Z is just not that simple.
• 39:00
  Maurio Dawson: You've got to slow down and give them some grace.
• 39:03
  Maurio Dawson: But, like Cynthia said, you've got to do the work.
• 39:05
  Maurio Dawson: Now You've got to be willing to do.
• 39:07
  Maurio Dawson: You also said pick up a phone, answer an email, send a smoke signal, do something you can do that.
• 39:18
  Carmen Lezeth: There are some that take advantage.
• 39:19
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm very direct and ask what are your strengths?
• 39:22
  Carmen Lezeth: And then put them in charge of all of that, while I do the rest.
• 39:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, look, here's the thing.
• 39:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I agree with you 100 percent and in theory that does work.
• 39:31
  Carmen Lezeth: But the reality is, when I asked the person that I work with, what can I do to help you?
• 39:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Cause I know you've been doing this work for this family for 25 years, right, that's the other thing.
• 39:43
  Carmen Lezeth: There's a loyalty thing with this family and about them but, she's in her late seventies and she gets insulted instead of you know like she's, I'm doing it, I can do it all good and it's like right yeah that's what I've gotten, and I'm like I am.
• 40:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm trying to be helpful.
• 40:03
  Carmen Lezeth: You know I call you when when I need some advice on how to deal with blah, blah, blah and I do she's been with them for 25 years.
• 40:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, right, all of the information and skills that I don't know and don't have, right.
• 40:15
  Cynthia Lopez: Let me ask you a question Does she have?
• 40:18
  Cynthia Lopez: You know what FOMO is right, You're missing out.
• 40:22
  Carmen Lezeth: So does she?
• 40:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I know what that means.
• 40:26
  Cynthia Lopez: Carmen, is your co-worker.
• 40:28
  Cynthia Lopez: Like, does she do that?
• 40:31
  Cynthia Lopez: Like does she have fear of missing out on other things?
• 40:34
  Cynthia Lopez: Like, if you're talking with the other younger group or whatever about tech stuff, does she ever chime in and say, oh well, how come I'm not included in this?
• 40:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean we work in different states and different things.
• 40:48
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'll give you an example of what happened.
• 40:51
  Carmen Lezeth: So I will get a call saying that I don't know.
• 40:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to come up with a scenario that makes sense but not give it away.
• 41:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's say the person is in charge of all of the maintenance people that fix one of our clients' properties.
• 41:11
  Carmen Lezeth: They own property in another state, in New York, and, um, I don't have anything to do with that.
• 41:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't have anything to do with who the vendors are, who the.
• 41:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I just know how much money I need to dump in there.
• 41:25
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean Get an okay from our boss to dump into that account so we can pay the payroll yeah.
• 41:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, bookkeeper can pay the bills or whatever.
• 41:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, my whole job with this client is to be the interface between anyone and him.
• 41:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, so I will deal with the lawyers, the cpas, but my job is not maintenance of the property and the cars and the how you know the the house staff.
• 41:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, right right that's her job, because she's there, and that's what she's been doing for 25 years.
• 41:57
  Carmen Lezeth: So me getting a call from vendors or other staff members there because they're complaining yeah, that's probably been paid.
• 42:06
  Carmen Lezeth: The bookkeeper doesn't know who this vendor is, because they were just sent a bill with no reference.
• 42:12
  Carmen Lezeth: She's supposed to okay everything.
• 42:14
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 42:15
  Carmen Lezeth: She's supposed to say yes or no.
• 42:16
  Carmen Lezeth: She doesn't answer emails, she doesn't text people, she doesn't get back to people fast enough.
• 42:21
  Carmen Lezeth: So when somebody's calling me about not getting paid and they just mowed the lawn, I'm not trying to say that's beneath me, but it's certainly-.
• 42:31
  Maurio Dawson: But that's not your job.
• 42:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not, but it's certainly but that's not your job, it's not.
• 42:35
  Carmen Lezeth: But it is my job to fix what's broken right.
• 42:38
  Carmen Lezeth: So if there's a situation where vendors or staff people are not getting paid and the bookkeeper's frustrated because she's not getting paid, that is my job.
• 42:47
  Carmen Lezeth: So I called her directly, right?
• 42:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I called her directly and I tell her I'm getting all these and that's where she gets offended.
• 42:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't know if it's a fear of missing out.
• 42:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I I say this with respect, I just think it's.
• 43:03
  Carmen Lezeth: She hasn't kept up with stuff because it's techie for her okay, so maybe people are emailing her so you know she'll hire them or she'll say, yes, we'll pay you, like verbally, yeah.
• 43:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But then she doesn't answer people's emails because most people don't talk on the phone anymore.
• 43:22
  Cynthia Lopez: Mm-hmm, you know, I mean.
• 43:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't mean that in a bad way In the work that we do.
• 43:26
  Carmen Lezeth: People are digital and emailing and you know chatting it's faster.
• 43:31
  Cynthia Lopez: You can multitask with emails.
• 43:33
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just a new way of doing things.
• 43:34
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what I think her problem is.
• 43:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if it's the fear of missing out.
• 43:37
  Carmen Lezeth: It could be that I just don't know her personally.
• 43:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I've never met her.
• 43:41
  Rick Costa: I know a lot of older people.
• 43:42
  Rick Costa: They don't want to admit they don't know how to do something.
• 43:45
  Rick Costa: That's an issue.
• 43:47
  Rick Costa: I'm not an idiot.
• 43:49
  Rick Costa: I know how to do that.
• 43:52
  Maurio Dawson: Was there pride coming before the fall?
• 43:56
  Maurio Dawson: So you're supposed to just be able to ask.
• 43:58
  Maurio Dawson: And it is hard.
• 44:02
  Maurio Dawson: It's definitely hard, but people also, they feel like when they have to ask you questions, it shows weakness and it shows vulnerability.
• 44:10
  Maurio Dawson: But we may not see it that way and that shows vulnerability, but we may not see it that way, but as the individual coming into the person.
• 44:16
  Maurio Dawson: If you're insecure about something, it may feel like it's weakness.
• 44:27
  Carmen Lezeth: And that may be an issue with a lot of our seniors.
• 44:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, there was this one time where this was like months ago, but this is what I realized.
• 44:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like, oh, she's so stressed.
• 44:36
  Carmen Lezeth: This was like months ago, but this is what I realized, like, oh, she's so stressed.
• 44:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I called her from my boss's home here in Malibu and my boss was in the room.
• 44:41
  Carmen Lezeth: But we have this speaker thing.
• 44:43
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just like a speaker box where you can call and everyone in the room can hear, right.
• 44:47
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Conference box.
• 44:50
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 44:50
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but it's just.
• 44:51
  Carmen Lezeth: It's yes, anyways, but you didn't know that's where I was calling from.
• 44:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, she knew I was calling from his number, but she didn't.
• 44:59
  Carmen Lezeth: She didn't realize that he was in the room.
• 45:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 45:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Like she got really snippety and really whatever.
• 45:09
  Carmen Lezeth: And then he was like hey, i'm'm here and what's going on, are you okay?
• 45:16
  Carmen Lezeth: and then her tone completely changed I was like I was like, and that's what I mean.
• 45:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you try to be nice, you try to be grateful, and then they're frustrated for whatever reason.
• 45:34
  Carmen Lezeth: And usually I can calm her down from getting.
• 45:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll be like I'll take care of it, I'll deal with it.
• 45:39
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think that's also bad because it now continues to be me.
• 45:43
  Carmen Lezeth: But yeah, he stepped in it and he was more upset with the tone changing.
• 45:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I was too.
• 45:49
  Carmen Lezeth: At that point.
• 45:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like wow Cause, that just shows a lack of respect for anyone else she's talking to.
• 45:54
  Carmen Lezeth: That might be upset.
• 45:57
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, that's definitely an indication of how she talks to other people, and so if she's talking to you like that and she got busted, just imagine how she's talking to other people, other vendors.
• 46:08
  Cynthia Lopez: Especially the vendors.
• 46:10
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, people, you have to.
• 46:11
  Maurio Dawson: She is a representation of him, so if that's what they're getting, it makes him look bad and he's going to realize that eventually, and bless her soul, she's going to have to, you know.
• 46:22
  Maurio Dawson: Move on to the next phase.
• 46:25
  Carmen Lezeth: It is a money thing.
• 46:25
  Carmen Lezeth: And I only know because so many times she'll mention something and she's like I know I'm going to get fired.
• 46:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I'm going to get fired.
• 46:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, if you know, stop doing it, Damn.
• 46:45
  Cynthia Lopez: If you know, then stop doing it Like this, tell her.
• 46:54
  Carmen Lezeth: It's your face, your energy.
• 47:01
  Cynthia Lopez: Oh my God, that's hilarious.
• 47:03
  Cynthia Lopez: The one I work with, she has total FOMO.
• 47:08
  Cynthia Lopez: We had a company donate a standing desk to us, and so you know whoever wanted one grabbed one and there was one that was left over.
• 47:21
  Cynthia Lopez: So our manager, you know, asked you know, if you guys want it, you can grab it.
• 47:24
  Cynthia Lopez: Blah, blah, blah.
• 47:25
  Cynthia Lopez: She said it to all of us.
• 47:27
  Cynthia Lopez: Well, how come I can't have that?
• 47:30
  Cynthia Lopez: I said you can, if you want it, you can grab it.
• 47:33
  Cynthia Lopez: She's like well, no, I don't want it.
• 47:35
  Cynthia Lopez: I said so why are you asking?
• 47:37
  Cynthia Lopez: She goes because I want to be included and I'm like but you were she told everyone.
• 47:46
  Maurio Dawson: At that point I would have been like ma'am, ma'am, excuse me, ma'am, you know good and hell well, you didn't want that why you can't even come over here.
• 47:53
  Maurio Dawson: Go have several seats, mind your business.
• 47:56
  Maurio Dawson: Just rest your nerves.
• 47:58
  Maurio Dawson: Rest my nerves, we'll be all good and then have a cup of coffee.
• 48:02
  Maurio Dawson: Enjoy your day.
• 48:03
  Maurio Dawson: Thank you very much.
• 48:04
  Maurio Dawson: Thanks for stopping by.
• 48:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that fear of missing out or is it being kind of lonely and wanting people to pay attention to you?
• 48:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that kind of the same thing?
• 48:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean fear of missing out feels different to me.
• 48:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel like sometimes a lot of us react a certain way because we don't feel included.
• 48:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, I'm not making excuses for her, I'm just trying to look at it.
• 48:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I come from this place where I'm starting to realize that at some point we all going to get older.
• 48:35
  Carmen Lezeth: There are just some facts that are feel negative, but I'm embracing it all.
• 48:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Like getting older, we're all going to die at some point.
• 48:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Like that's for sure.
• 48:43
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 48:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Like there were certainties we're all going to get wrinkles, we all going to have our boobies drop, whatever, Maybe not you guys.
• 48:54
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm saying.
• 49:05
  Carmen Lezeth: All of us yeah we're in something, and so how can we be more full of grace?
• 49:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, grace and it's your word of the day it is, it's the word of the day grace.
• 49:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Try to be more great of and I just don't know how to fix it.
• 49:21
  Carmen Lezeth: And, um, I know it's not my job, but as a person who wants to grow all the time, as a good human being, I want to be more understanding and I also think when we can understand things, maybe we can treat it differently or deal with it differently, you know.
• 49:36
  Maurio Dawson: But see, now, here's the trick about grace you can show a lot of grace, but then there's a point where people can take advantage of it and it's like now I'm leading with grace, now I'm coming with grace.
• 49:48
  Maurio Dawson: However, you're not going to keep doing it.
• 49:52
  Maurio Dawson: You know, because now, after I've explained to you in a kind, loving way, and I've come to you directly and I've spoken to you about what the issue is, and you acknowledge that you hear me and you say well, I know I'm going to get fired.
• 50:05
  Maurio Dawson: Well, then, you want to get fired?
• 50:06
  Maurio Dawson: Then at that point, I'm done.
• 50:07
  Maurio Dawson: At that point I'm going to say I'm going to leave you where you are, be blessed.
• 50:14
  Maurio Dawson: I'm going to say I'm going to leave you where you are, be blessed, and good luck and Godspeed, because you know there's only a certain line let me read what Amma just wrote.
• 50:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Sounds like she feels like she's better than and.
• 50:25
  Carmen Lezeth: It should have been offered to her first so she can turn it down and then ask everyone else that's true I think that is Nazeem turn it down and then ask everyone else.
• 50:33
  Carmen Lezeth: That's true, I think that is.
• 50:34
  Rick Costa: Nazeem.
• 50:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, nazeem, how are you?
• 50:39
  Carmen Lezeth: How?
• 50:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Are you and Cynthia I don't think you know Nazeem, but he's an old friend from a different time, so we're at a different app which I'm never mentioning here again, but we have not seen him.
• 50:55
  Carmen Lezeth: So it's like five o'clock in the morning, right, nazi, he's great um nazine.
• 51:01
  Carmen Lezeth: What time is it in italy?
• 51:04
  Carmen Lezeth: oh, they're like nine hours ahead, right, yeah, yeah, yeah it's like always like two or three in the morning or something, when he's uh chit-chatting on uh an app.
• 51:13
  Carmen Lezeth: It's like 3 in the morning or something, when he's chit-chatting on an app.
• 51:15
  Maurio Dawson: It's like 4 in the morning.
• 51:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I want you to come on this show when you're awake in the middle of the night and your wife is asleep.
• 51:25
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, that's too bad.
• 51:26
  Maurio Dawson: No, it's more, it's 5.54.
• 51:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Come on and talk with us, be a guest, come on the show.
• 51:35
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm so glad you're here.
• 51:36
  Carmen Lezeth: I miss you.
• 51:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I think Rick would agree, right, don't?
• 51:39
  Carmen Lezeth: We miss him a little bit.
• 51:40
  Rick Costa: Oh yeah, Nazeem's a very cool dude, for sure.
• 51:41
  Rick Costa: You said a little bit.
• 51:43
  Carmen Lezeth: What it's.
• 51:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Just me, nazeem, I'm going to send you an invite next Thursday.
• 51:51
  Carmen Lezeth: But you an invite next Thursday, but you can come whenever you want.
• 51:55
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll send it to you at your Facebook or your email address.
• 51:57
  Carmen Lezeth: We'd love to have you on the show.
• 51:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, deal, deal, and if you can't do it at this time, you and I can have a private lounge.
• 52:06
  Carmen Lezeth: We'll have Rick on too and chit-chatting.
• 52:10
  Maurio Dawson: How rude.
• 52:11
  Maurio Dawson: I can't be in the private lounge.
• 52:12
  Maurio Dawson: How's the nerve?
• 52:15
  Cynthia Lopez: Me and you are left out, Mario, I'm telling you like the red-headed stepchild children that we are.
• 52:22
  Maurio Dawson: Sounds like FOMO.
• 52:23
  Maurio Dawson: No, you know what.
• 52:26
  Maurio Dawson: Forget y'all.
• 52:27
  Maurio Dawson: How about that?
• 52:33
  Carmen Lezeth: You're lifting out?
• 52:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, perfect.
• 52:40
  Rick Costa: We'll definitely do it next week, for sure, I promise, promise, that'd be great.
• 52:42
  Rick Costa: I know it's funny, because the story that cynthia just said, right, I was reading, uh, like it was a fictional story and this woman was like just mad as a hornet and these people were going to a wedding and she's like why are you so mad?
• 52:49
  Rick Costa: And then they came to find out because she didn't get invited to the wedding and they're like oh well, here you can go in my place, that's fine.
• 52:58
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, I don't want to go.
• 52:59
  Maurio Dawson: I don't want to go, I just want the invitation Right.
• 53:02
  Maurio Dawson: No.
• 53:04
  Rick Costa: Oh, my God.
• 53:05
  Maurio Dawson: I've gotten that too.
• 53:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I can take that from another, because I remember when I was younger, I, when I was younger, I was not invited to hang out with, like um, melanie had kind of mentioned the cool kids.
• 53:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, I was kind of an outsider but also thought of as kind of cool because I was rehearsing.
• 53:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I was I wasn't always hanging in the hood with everybody else, you know, um, but I remember like then they would be like having parties or going wherever or hanging out and they wouldn't invite me and I would feel like, oh my God, nobody even thought of me or whatever.
• 53:38
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like you had to be invited to the neighborhood chat, you know, hanging out on the street, but if you weren't invited or no one gave you a heads up that there was a special time, that we were all going to be doing something, I felt really bad.
• 53:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I just wanted to be asked.
• 53:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I probably would have never gone anyway, right, yeah, we just had so many parties, you know underground parties or whatever, which is a place I would have never wanted to be anyways, but not being asked made me feel like crap.
• 54:08
  Maurio Dawson: It is like that.
• 54:09
  Maurio Dawson: I've been that way too, where you know, I just wanted to be asked Most of the I'm going to say no, Anyway, it's just the thought of being asked.
• 54:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But, by the way, I was 17 or 16 at the time, so I just want to clear that up.
• 54:23
  Maurio Dawson: Oh.
• 54:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm 50 something and I still feel that way, like just now when you cried about not being invited to the private lounge.
• 54:29
  Cynthia Lopez: Yes.
• 54:37
  Rick Costa: But I'm always quick to say like, like, if it is, somebody does ask me to do something or whatever, and I'm like thank you for thinking of me, you know, but no, but thank you for thinking of me, thank you.
• 54:41
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it, thank you, but no, thank you and then sometimes I will go and I'll be the life of the party and they'll all be grateful.
• 54:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I want, want you.
• 54:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm saying.
• 54:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, I'm sorry.
• 54:55
  Carmen Lezeth: All right, you guys didn't think that was funny.
• 54:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I did.
• 54:58
  Cynthia Lopez: If Tony would think it's funny, cause he'd be like I want to know if you have any say in firing that person.
• 55:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I missed home.
• 55:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm so sorry.
• 55:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I was just looking at Nazeem's comments.
• 55:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you have any say in that?
• 55:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, if not, if not, then your fee should go up because your job duties are expiring.
• 55:20
  Carmen Lezeth: You're so amazing.
• 55:23
  Carmen Lezeth: So let me explain what I do, because that would make more sense.
• 55:26
  Carmen Lezeth: So I people will say I'm a business manager.
• 55:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But you know anybody can say they're a business manager and just like a life coach, and you know anybody can tell them I actually, when people hire me, they know I do organizational management.
• 55:40
  Carmen Lezeth: And the reason why I call it that is because I come into any situation and I just try to fix what's broken.
• 55:47
  Carmen Lezeth: So, for example, my biggest job is firing and hiring people.
• 55:52
  Carmen Lezeth: So, yeah, that's, that's the major thing that I do.
• 55:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I also come in and make suggestions on procedures and, um, you know, depending on what kind of uh client it is, it has a little bit of tweaky stuff.
• 56:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Like sometimes I just do um, you know, being the front face for especially my A-list clients, you know that are celebrities.
• 56:18
  Carmen Lezeth: They're not going to go and sit at the bank to talk to them about moving money around or investing in something else.
• 56:26
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'll go get the information, I'll be the middle person and then go deliver it to them with all the suggestions, then go back, right, so it's like that person.
• 56:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But yeah, and I do a lot of overall management and that's pretty much it.
• 56:39
  Carmen Lezeth: So, yeah, I do have a say in if they get fired.
• 56:41
  Carmen Lezeth: But that's all in the bling amount I charge.
• 56:46
  Maurio Dawson: As you should now with this particular person.
• 56:49
  Maurio Dawson: Are you at that point or are you going to get, continue to show a little bit more grace?
• 56:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, I always show her grace because she is an elder.
• 56:58
  Maurio Dawson: Right.
• 56:58
  Carmen Lezeth: But she also knows that just by her own mistake.
• 57:02
  Carmen Lezeth: But I have suggested that they think about a different way we can use her.
• 57:06
  Carmen Lezeth: So this is part of the problem that people don't understand.
• 57:09
  Carmen Lezeth: You have to use people's strengths.
• 57:11
  Cynthia Lopez: Strengths yeah, I agree.
• 57:13
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not any, that's any age you can't be like.
• 57:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, rick, I know that.
• 57:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, we love your personality, we think you're great, we'd love to hire you.
• 57:21
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to put you in charge of all the accounting.
• 57:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you're an accountant, but that would be like a tech it person.
• 57:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know, jack, about IT stuff.
• 57:33
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 57:33
  Rick Costa: I mean IT, I would take, but numbers no.
• 57:36
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, but you see what I mean.
• 57:38
  Carmen Lezeth: What did he say?
• 57:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I see that with what?
• 57:39
  Rick Costa: I said, it I would do because I've done it before, but anything with numbers, nah.
• 57:44
  Carmen Lezeth: But you see what the point I'm trying to say.
• 57:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, there is a longevity of a relationship.
• 57:50
  Carmen Lezeth: These people, their strength, the reason why I keep working for them is they are loyal and that tells me a lot about the quality of who they are.
• 57:58
  Carmen Lezeth: So the conversation I've had with them is not to fire her, but the conversation I've had with her and him is it might be time to change her position.
• 58:12
  Carmen Lezeth: What she does for you all.
• 58:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, maybe give her a little bump in money, because I think that's also what's stressing her out, like she's been getting paid the same amount of money for a very long time oh, wow it's not their fault.
• 58:24
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a little bit more complicated.
• 58:25
  Carmen Lezeth: She was hired for somebody else right then the thing and then it's been so long.
• 58:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Things have changed over over time, so nobody was like supervising that whole situation yeah she is part of the family in a way because it's been so long.
• 58:42
  Carmen Lezeth: So that's on them.
• 58:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I made my suggestions yeah, it's complicated.
• 58:47
  Maurio Dawson: It seems like it's really complicated.
• 58:49
  Maurio Dawson: It's not very cut and dry, right also?
• 58:50
  Carmen Lezeth: alma Also, alma just made a great point or they need an assistant, what I suggested, because I think she would interpret that as I'm not getting my job and I'm going to get fired.
• 59:01
  Carmen Lezeth: She would right, no, yeah.
• 59:02
  Carmen Lezeth: But she would say, she's going to get an assistant for that state house, you know what I mean.
• 59:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah For the house that gets somebody else to assist in in all things, but not say it's for her.
• 59:14
  Maurio Dawson: But say no, yeah, it's for.
• 59:16
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, you bring them in under her.
• 59:19
  Maurio Dawson: So you'll say you're, you're the supervisor.
• 59:22
  Maurio Dawson: It means it gives you a title.
• 59:25
  Maurio Dawson: So, yeah, I mean that's that's you know.
• 59:28
  Maurio Dawson: That's a good idea.
• 59:29
  Maurio Dawson: It's just maybe the approaches to how you bring the person in, you know, and, like you said, just give them a bump, it's not a lot.
• 59:37
  Maurio Dawson: Give them a bump, make them feel like a supervisor and you're getting that.
• 59:40
  Maurio Dawson: She's getting the extra help she needs.
• 59:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, but that's like the last part that I have to do with it.
• 59:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, at that point, like I make suggestions to my clients, it's on them to pursue it.
• 59:51
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what?
• 59:52
  Maurio Dawson: I mean.
• 59:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Some are like whatever you want, carmen, go ahead, do it, cause they know I will go and fire them myself.
• 59:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, they're not going to do it, so I'll be the bad guy and I'm fine.
• 1:00:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I get paid to do that.
• 1:00:02
  Carmen Lezeth: But if they're, you know, taking their time or don't want to, I got none else to say.
• 1:00:06
  Maurio Dawson: I'm curious how do you fire people?
• 1:00:08
  Maurio Dawson: How do you deliver the bad news?
• 1:00:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Well deliver the bad news well, first of, all, it's not that quick.
• 1:00:19
  Carmen Lezeth: So like, let's say, I was going to fire you from whatever position you're working for, I mean your heart and soul.
• 1:00:22
  Carmen Lezeth: And on that private lounge podcast we did last week that you can find at youtube, all about the joy boom, there it is plug it don't see me which I made sure that I clicked like on.
• 1:00:35
  Rick Costa: like everybody should Smash that like button.
• 1:00:38
  Carmen Lezeth: That's right, like that shit.
• 1:00:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, I just did that, like Chris Gayle did, right, a really nice moment, and then you mess it up.
• 1:00:45
  Carmen Lezeth: But it wouldn't be abrupt, I would, you know, because, not even by law but out of decency, you want to give people chances, but you really do have to give people at least three warnings before you.
• 1:01:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Actually, so they're not surprised by the time it happens Doesn't mean they're not annoyed.
• 1:01:06
  Carmen Lezeth: So usually I am.
• 1:01:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I am hired when everyone's frustrated and they're going to get fired anyway.
• 1:01:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Not that they know, but they've tried like they think they've tried everything.
• 1:01:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Get him a cardboard box.
• 1:01:22
  Rick Costa: With a security escort.
• 1:01:23
  Cynthia Lopez: Wow, that's the impression with me.
• 1:01:25
  Cynthia Lopez: Wow, I like that.
• 1:01:28
  Cynthia Lopez: Just walk in.
• 1:01:28
  Maurio Dawson: He's coming to the office with a box on your desk.
• 1:01:31
  Maurio Dawson: You bet your shit.
• 1:01:32
  Maurio Dawson: You got to go.
• 1:01:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Sign here, take your shit.
• 1:01:35
  Carmen Lezeth: You got to go.
• 1:01:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Sign here, take your shit.
• 1:01:36
  Maurio Dawson: Hit the clipboard, sign your shit, get out.
• 1:01:38
  Maurio Dawson: Have a good day.
• 1:01:40
  Carmen Lezeth: So the first time it's not a warning.
• 1:01:41
  Carmen Lezeth: It feels like I'm just trying to tell you what I need you to do, instead of what you've been doing.
• 1:01:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Right you know what I mean.
• 1:01:48
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'll be like Mario, you know what.
• 1:01:50
  Carmen Lezeth: I know that this may be the way you've always done it, but I need you to step it up.
• 1:01:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I need it to be on time, I need it to be accurate, and if you need any help with that, let me know, because I'm happy to sit here and help you.
• 1:02:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Come up with a different way on how to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:02:05
  Cynthia Lopez: Exactly.
• 1:02:06
  Carmen Lezeth: That's warning number one.
• 1:02:08
  Carmen Lezeth: You're never confused.
• 1:02:10
  Carmen Lezeth: That that's warning number one specifically to fix, and it's always usually a little gossipy that they know I'm going to fire somebody, okay.
• 1:02:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Second, the second warning is usually like a little bit more curt.
• 1:02:25
  Carmen Lezeth: If you will a little bit more forward, I bring them to a separate room.
• 1:02:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I bring the boss in if he or she is around.
• 1:02:32
  Carmen Lezeth: We have a conversation that this is the second warning.
• 1:02:35
  Carmen Lezeth: You promised that you would work with Carmen.
• 1:02:38
  Carmen Lezeth: You probably.
• 1:02:39
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, by this date we said we reevaluate.
• 1:02:42
  Carmen Lezeth: So this is abruptly the second time and second warning that we need you to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:02:48
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:02:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you can say by the third time, they know I'm frustrated.
• 1:02:53
  Carmen Lezeth: There's no way you can tell, not tell that I'm frustrated and cause now I'm being a little bit more whatever and I'm like OK, so here's the conversation.
• 1:03:01
  Carmen Lezeth: This is the last time in 30 days.
• 1:03:03
  Carmen Lezeth: We need this to be fixed Like one one.
• 1:03:06
  Carmen Lezeth: The biggest thing sometimes is that people think and kind of hide that they've done it when they actually haven't.
• 1:03:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, wait a minute, wait, hold on a second.
• 1:03:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But the third, the third time.
• 1:03:20
  Carmen Lezeth: They have a timetable it needs to be met.
• 1:03:22
  Carmen Lezeth: We have a real evaluation and there's never a confusion that they're about to get fired.
• 1:03:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Wait, I usually have papers for them to sign and whatever a severance package, and that's what I'm talking about.
• 1:03:34
  Carmen Lezeth: so it's really three times warning, fourth time we're done.
• 1:03:37
  Carmen Lezeth: So Alma just said that would actually be such a power move.
• 1:03:41
  Carmen Lezeth: You walk in with supplies, a stack of moving boxes and tape, and say not sure who's going to need these, but people can sue us.
• 1:03:50
  Carmen Lezeth: When do they slash a car?
• 1:03:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, here's the thing, my client when do they?
• 1:03:59
  Cynthia Lopez: slash a car tire.
• 1:04:00
  Rick Costa: That's funny.
• 1:04:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, here's the thing, my client, something bad has happened before and it wasn't my car, but somebody got so upset that they and this is why nobody has my address, not even my clients know where I live.
• 1:04:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I have a PO box on purpose.
• 1:04:15
  Maurio Dawson: You should.
• 1:04:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Because that time was like it was earlier in my career.
• 1:04:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I have a PO Box on purpose.
• 1:04:18
  Carmen Lezeth: You should Because that time was earlier in my career.
• 1:04:21
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what I'll say.
• 1:04:22
  Carmen Lezeth: And they came to my house and left dead flowers one week.
• 1:04:26
  Carmen Lezeth: It was a little scary.
• 1:04:29
  Carmen Lezeth: It was a little scary.
• 1:04:30
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why I changed.
• 1:04:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I actually moved out of one place because of that.
• 1:04:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I vowed never, ever, ever, to give out my address to anyone again yeah, no, that's when.
• 1:04:42
  Carmen Lezeth: That's when the mario shows up my clients know in the stipulation, if something happens to me because of this, that they are.
• 1:04:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Uh, you know, not everyone always agrees to it, but it's a clause in my contract yeah because it is a dangerous thing to do, especially if people look at.
• 1:04:57
  Carmen Lezeth: The problem usually isn't the person, it's usually the management, supervisor or boss who didn't train them correctly.
• 1:05:05
  Carmen Lezeth: So I'm telling you nine times out of 10, that's the problem.
• 1:05:10
  Maurio Dawson: Say it loud for the people in the back, like the.
• 1:05:16
  Maurio Dawson: Rolling Stones song bring me dead flowers in the morning man, you do something like that to me it's, it's a rap for you.
• 1:05:23
  Maurio Dawson: It's because I'm a different person.
• 1:05:25
  Maurio Dawson: I come off nice and sweet.
• 1:05:27
  Maurio Dawson: You know, got a little soft voice, but then english yourself no, no, englewood will show up.
• 1:05:37
  Maurio Dawson: Don't play, don't play, englewood will show up.
• 1:05:44
  Rick Costa: I actually showed Grace this morning.
• 1:05:46
  Rick Costa: A customer asked for a quote for a particular item, didn't say how many.
• 1:05:51
  Rick Costa: They just said can you send me a quote for blah, blah, blah?
• 1:05:54
  Rick Costa: I wrote him back and I said can you please send me all your billing and shipping information and how many you're looking for, and I'll go in my system and set up a quote to send you.
• 1:06:02
  Rick Costa: Mr Smarty Pants writes me back and says well, how are you going to give him a quote when you don't know how many he wants?
• 1:06:08
  Rick Costa: So instead of saying dummy, did you not read what I wrote?
• 1:06:11
  Rick Costa: I said exactly.
• 1:06:13
  Rick Costa: So I'm going to write them again for clarification there you go.
• 1:06:18
  Rick Costa: I gave grace, that is grace.
• 1:06:22
  Carmen Lezeth: That's grace, but we can do both.
• 1:06:30
  Carmen Lezeth: We're all about the joy.
• 1:06:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, don't mess with Tony's logo, come on.
• 1:06:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I just think it's.
• 1:06:42
  Carmen Lezeth: Look, some people get mad at me, but that's why, over time, I've learned how to do it differently.
• 1:06:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I try to be as helpful as possible, I try to be whatever, so that they're not confused Like the last person.
• 1:06:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I fired two people in the past month.
• 1:06:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Wow, you're on a roll.
• 1:07:03
  Carmen Lezeth: And you know what?
• 1:07:04
  Carmen Lezeth: When I had the conversation with them, or you know, our bosses and me had the conversation with them they didn't get upset, they knew they knew it was coming, yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And we give them a nice severance.
• 1:07:19
  Carmen Lezeth: So they have a few months to figure out what's next.
• 1:07:20
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, and yeah, because the people I work for all have money.
• 1:07:23
  Carmen Lezeth: This would be a different ball game if it was a startup or whatever.
• 1:07:26
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't take those clients because I I I can't fire or hire someone who doesn't have enough money, like you can't hire a cfo for eighty thousand dollars, nowhere not how it works out here, you know.
• 1:07:37
  Maurio Dawson: so if you ain't got the money, you're gonna have to get a CFO for $80,000.
• 1:07:38
  Maurio Dawson: No, nowhere, not how it works out here.
• 1:07:40
  Carmen Lezeth: So if you ain't got the money, you're going to have to get a really really, really young, young up and coming hoping to be an accountant.
• 1:07:48
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:07:49
  Carmen Lezeth: That will take you to the grand, you know what I mean and then become CFO someday when you make money.
• 1:07:54
  Carmen Lezeth: But I can't be going to somebody who's making $200,000, $250,000 minimum as a CFO of some organization out here and say, yes, no, it's the fixer.
• 1:08:12
  Cynthia Lopez: She is the fixer.
• 1:08:14
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what that's so negative, Nazeem?
• 1:08:18
  Maurio Dawson: So basically when you fire them you say hasta la vista, baby.
• 1:08:22
  Rick Costa: Yeah, no I don't, and after step two she'd be like I'll be back.
• 1:08:26
  Cynthia Lopez: Right.
• 1:08:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I actually do my job.
• 1:08:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just good at it, and you all know that that's not what I want to be doing.
• 1:08:33
  Maurio Dawson: I know, but you're just so bad going good at what you do.
• 1:08:35
  Maurio Dawson: I know, but you're just so good at what you do.
• 1:08:39
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not that I'm just saying it's easy to be the bad guy or the bad cop, so the bosses look good.
• 1:08:46
  Carmen Lezeth: That really is what it is, that I do.
• 1:08:48
  Maurio Dawson: Do you like being the villain?
• 1:08:51
  Rick Costa: I can't be the villain.
• 1:08:54
  Maurio Dawson: Sometimes it's fun to be the villain I've always heard actors love playing villains.
• 1:08:58
  Rick Costa: Yeah, they do, thank you the villain.
• 1:08:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I've always heard actors love playing villains.
• 1:09:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, they do.
• 1:09:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Thank you, rick, but I don't like it because, at the end of the day, what I do, no matter how well or nice or with all that warning, it hurts people.
• 1:09:09
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not really what I want.
• 1:09:12
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 1:09:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Like it's not all I do.
• 1:09:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't just hire and fire people.
• 1:09:15
  Carmen Lezeth: The other parts of my job I actually don't mind, because I get to meet a lot of people and I get to be on set a lot with a couple of my clients, and that's a different ballgame, right, that's playing, interference with media or PR people or agents.
• 1:09:30
  Carmen Lezeth: But that's more fun for me, because at least it's really industry based, you know.
• 1:09:38
  Maurio Dawson: But see, that's the fun part of your job.
• 1:09:39
  Maurio Dawson: You, what I'm saying, that's that's well I mean to me.
• 1:09:40
  Carmen Lezeth: To me, energy is yeah because it's the industry I love, but I still don't like being that you know performing or or doing this podcast regularly.
• 1:09:50
  Rick Costa: You know what I mean so you're trying to explain your job to a six-year-old kind of be like I just help them run everything better, that's it.
• 1:10:00
  Carmen Lezeth: I missed what you just asked because I was reading Alma say the joyous part I think she was clarifying from Mario.
• 1:10:07
  Rick Costa: I'll say if you try to explain your job to a six-year-old, you could just say I try to help the company run everything better.
• 1:10:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I never admit to children or anyone.
• 1:10:20
  Rick Costa: I'm just saying, if you had to.
• 1:10:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I would say I manage things.
• 1:10:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know how did you get to that's not on the list.
• 1:10:31
  Rick Costa: That's not on the list.
• 1:10:32
  Rick Costa: People, you have to stop on the list.
• 1:10:33
  Rick Costa: What are you talking about?
• 1:10:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Because I'm getting sad, because I know I'm branded as that, I know that's what I do, but it's not who I am and it's not what I want to do to make a living.
• 1:10:42
  Maurio Dawson: But you just said it.
• 1:10:43
  Maurio Dawson: It's not who you are, it's your job.
• 1:10:46
  Carmen Lezeth: And we're talking about it after I just did it.
• 1:10:50
  Maurio Dawson: Okay, let's move on.
• 1:10:51
  Rick Costa: So let's talk about joyful stuff.
• 1:10:54
  Maurio Dawson: Back to the list.
• 1:10:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, I think we.
• 1:10:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know where I am on the list, not because you all messed it up.
• 1:11:00
  Rick Costa: Oh God Can you imagine if somebody was about to get fired?
• 1:11:03
  Rick Costa: The best performance in a podcast goes to Exactly here's your award.
• 1:11:09
  Rick Costa: Can you imagine if somebody knows they're about to get fired by Carmen and be like aren't you all about the joy lady?
• 1:11:17
  Cynthia Lopez: Aren't you all about the joy lady?
• 1:11:19
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what Everybody now does know that I do this, but they knew before it was branded as that that I am creative, like I don't lie to any of my clients or anybody I work for.
• 1:11:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Alma just said it's what you do, not who you are, I know, but I can say that all I want in theory, but at the end of the day I spend at least eight hours every day, sometimes a weekend, and I can say it's not who I am, but it's mostly what I think about.
• 1:11:43
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean and it's really hard.
• 1:11:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Like all the sayings we say, I always wonder, like why do people say them?
• 1:11:49
  Carmen Lezeth: Cause they're not really true, they're just all habitual things we keep saying.
• 1:11:53
  Carmen Lezeth: But I don't, yeah.
• 1:11:55
  Maurio Dawson: Sometimes we say stuff as affirmations to make ourselves feel better, and it's self-encouragement.
• 1:12:06
  Maurio Dawson: For me.
• 1:12:06
  Maurio Dawson: It might not always be true, but I'm like, okay, I'm about to go down this black hole.
• 1:12:09
  Maurio Dawson: You're not this, mario, you're not that, you're this.
• 1:12:12
  Maurio Dawson: And then I start giving myself affirmations to pull myself out of it, to get on with the rest of my day, cause otherwise we can.
• 1:12:19
  Maurio Dawson: We can.
• 1:12:20
  Maurio Dawson: What was they say?
• 1:12:21
  Maurio Dawson: Spiral the drain, and we don't want to do that.
• 1:12:24
  Maurio Dawson: So let's come out of this spiral and change the subject to something else.
• 1:12:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Send me the list for next Thursday.
• 1:12:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll bring my own cardboard box the list for next Thursday.
• 1:12:38
  Cynthia Lopez: I'll bring my own cardboard box.
• 1:12:42
  Carmen Lezeth: That's it.
• 1:12:42
  Carmen Lezeth: The list is usually done Thursday morning.
• 1:12:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Maybe Sometimes we just wing it.
• 1:12:47
  Carmen Lezeth: You need to show yourself some grace.
• 1:12:53
  Maurio Dawson: There's that word again.
• 1:12:55
  Rick Costa: It's the word of the day I think I do, but I'm also.
• 1:13:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, we started talking about it, I think.
• 1:13:01
  Carmen Lezeth: How do you say this?
• 1:13:06
  Rick Costa: Say it.
• 1:13:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Like as a dancer.
• 1:13:07
  Carmen Lezeth: I'll give you an example.
• 1:13:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I know to my heart and my soul that I was a dancer, a performer, and I will always be that in my heart.
• 1:13:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But the fact that I'm actually not doing it or getting paid for it, or just having the time to do community theater or something, you know what I mean, right Is the depressing part, and I don't know if the word depressing is right, but I'm saying there's a, there's a conflict and there's only like, okay, I show myself grace.
• 1:13:35
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, but then.
• 1:13:36
  Maurio Dawson: But then I understand what you're saying, because growing up as a young person, that's always my goal was to always be working behind the camera.
• 1:13:46
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't ever want to be an on-screen talent, I always wanted to be a director, I always wanted to be a producer.
• 1:13:51
  Maurio Dawson: That was my dream coming up.
• 1:13:53
  Maurio Dawson: And because you know of everything else all my other health challenges, everything else that got in the way.
• 1:14:01
  Maurio Dawson: You know it.
• 1:14:03
  Maurio Dawson: It was.
• 1:14:03
  Maurio Dawson: It's a dream deferred, but I still call it a dream.
• 1:14:06
  Maurio Dawson: So you know, I never.
• 1:14:08
  Maurio Dawson: But then I have to ask myself okay, what am I doing to make sure that I'm working on my dream?
• 1:14:12
  Carmen Lezeth: and I haven't done anything lately my clients know that march of 2025, I'm no longer working for them.
• 1:14:17
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what I did this year and wow, yeah, so that is what I'm doing for it.
• 1:14:22
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think um and alma just said you mourn it.
• 1:14:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I know that's what I'm doing right now and you guys are telling me to show myself some grace.
• 1:14:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I am mourning it.
• 1:14:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, yeah, so so that that is what the difference is.
• 1:14:37
  Carmen Lezeth: That is why, even though I'm tired and really just want to sleep, when I come home or just rest and watch TV or something I will, I will do what I need to do.
• 1:14:46
  Carmen Lezeth: And then I'm up at 12 in the morning or one in the morning editing this show or doing what I need to do, or, you know, getting a trademark or fixing the website.
• 1:14:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Or Rick knows that I, you know, just started a store and we're testing out some of the stuff, so I asked him to order some.
• 1:15:01
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
• 1:15:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I am in the little bit of time, so I get, I, I committed to myself this year.
• 1:15:07
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't believe I'm admitting this, but I mean, I don't mind, maybe it inspires somebody else.
• 1:15:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I was sick and tired of mourning this situation and finding every excuse and reason why I am validating, why I am in this situation and then say, okay, so why am I still in it when I know I don't?
• 1:15:25
  Carmen Lezeth: What can I do?
• 1:15:25
  Carmen Lezeth: So I gave myself a timeline and not just in my head.
• 1:15:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I told each one of my clients when I signed my new contracts and they're all for the same date, even though the contracts are different.
• 1:15:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, yeah, I said March, said march 2025.
• 1:15:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm out, you know one time I was like but that's only nine months.
• 1:15:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like exactly, exactly like I didn't make any changes or whatever for anyone and, um, my hope I'll be honest is to make money.
• 1:15:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I, I have enough money for like four or five months to get by.
• 1:15:57
  Carmen Lezeth: If I don't want to, because then I'll have nothing and I'll be calling you all and be like, hey friend.
• 1:16:08
  Cynthia Lopez: Can you bail me out?
• 1:16:13
  Maurio Dawson: I need bail money.
• 1:16:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I need bail money, but I'm just saying by then at least getting income.
• 1:16:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I've started writing the book for All About the Joy and I have someone helping me with just kind of editing and I'm not expecting to make a lot of money, but I just want to do something, and so I started that.
• 1:16:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I have the whole template out for the chapters.
• 1:16:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I also have invested in this so that hopefully there'll be something.
• 1:16:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Maybe somebody will help sponsor us, maybe somebody will help, maybe some money will come in from a few things of stores that I'm trying to create.
• 1:16:48
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just trying to pull from everywhere you know what I mean to see if there's ways to do this.
• 1:16:53
  Carmen Lezeth: But I really think if I had eight hours a day to just focus on me and what I want to do, if it's just for two months, I think I can get some.
• 1:17:05
  Carmen Lezeth: There's too many people making money as content creators, as you know, whatever it is right Podcast or YouTube, whatever.
• 1:17:16
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:17:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, there's so many ways to make money.
• 1:17:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Um, even writing, you can.
• 1:17:21
  Carmen Lezeth: You can submit on Fiverr or on all of those other places that are like temporary contract work, like you know.
• 1:17:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying if everyone else can be making a minimum of five grand a month or whatever, or people are making 50, 60 000 a month on crap.
• 1:17:41
  Maurio Dawson: you know what I mean help me understand how these insta, these instagram kids, are making millions of dollars like make it make sense, like I don't know I don't even need that much.
• 1:17:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I I mean I can live up to five thousand dollars a month.
• 1:17:54
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why I won't buy a new car.
• 1:17:56
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why you don't see me dressing up fancy.
• 1:17:58
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why I'm really trying to prioritize the absolute minimum.
• 1:18:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I need to stay in the place I'm at.
• 1:18:05
  Carmen Lezeth: You see what I'm saying?
• 1:18:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, alma, thank you.
• 1:18:10
  Carmen Lezeth: She said good for you and it seems that that's around the corner.
• 1:18:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Wow, I know, I know.
• 1:18:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Either that or I win the lottery between now and then.
• 1:18:20
  Maurio Dawson: I'm going to say investing yourself and bet on yourself.
• 1:18:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah.
• 1:18:25
  Maurio Dawson: Because if you don't believe in yourself, who else is going to believe in you?
• 1:18:27
  Maurio Dawson: Well, come on now.
• 1:18:29
  Maurio Dawson: Come on church.
• 1:18:30
  Maurio Dawson: Let the church say amen.
• 1:18:34
  Cynthia Lopez: Amen, amen, amen.
• 1:18:36
  Carmen Lezeth: What keeps you guys from not fulfilling whatever?
• 1:18:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, can't say that about Cynthia, because she's hustling to get to the dead world, the dead body world that she wants to work in.
• 1:18:46
  Maurio Dawson: She wants to see dead people.
• 1:18:48
  Maurio Dawson: If you've got to see them.
• 1:18:50
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you all think of?
• 1:18:52
  Carmen Lezeth: What prevents people from actually doing what they want to ultimately be doing?
• 1:18:57
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you think it is?
• 1:18:59
  Maurio Dawson: Fear, fear of failure, fear of rejection.
• 1:19:02
  Maurio Dawson: For me Interesting Because I did it before and I was told no, I was told I wasn't good.
• 1:19:12
  Maurio Dawson: I was told all the negative, all these people poured negativity into me, so it weighed me down and so I always yes, the dead world and so it's.
• 1:19:26
  Maurio Dawson: You know I'm not trying to go to the dead world, I'm trying to stay here and try to be lifted up I'm just reading what alma just said.
• 1:19:32
  Maurio Dawson: I'm sorry no, no, no, I know so.
• 1:19:36
  Maurio Dawson: For me it was all the negativity of people pouring into me negative stuff.
• 1:19:41
  Maurio Dawson: So now all this time is it's held me down, and mentally and physically.
• 1:19:47
  Maurio Dawson: And so now I'm trying to.
• 1:19:49
  Maurio Dawson: You know, I'm taking a turn and you know, trying to push myself out and I'm starting to take steps and I'm making phone calls.
• 1:19:58
  Maurio Dawson: Actually, in the last month I've been making phone calls to try to make changes and I'm just waiting to see what, where it goes.
• 1:20:06
  Maurio Dawson: I'm not speaking on it until something happens.
• 1:20:08
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, what one thing I forgot to tell you guys.
• 1:20:12
  Maurio Dawson: One thing that brought me joy this week is I was on let's make a deal.
• 1:20:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Boom, there you go, I know, but okay, yeah, he was on it last fr.
• 1:20:17
  Carmen Lezeth: A Deal Boom.
• 1:20:18
  Carmen Lezeth: There you go, I know, but okay, yeah, it was on it last Friday.
• 1:20:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, here's the thing, though, mario.
• 1:20:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I was going to tell everyone, but I couldn't find it because I think it aired wherever it aired.
• 1:20:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But unless you have something, yeah it's on Paramount+.
• 1:20:32
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, it's on Paramount+.
• 1:20:33
  Maurio Dawson: If you missed it the day of, the only place you can watch it is on Paramount Plus.
• 1:20:40
  Maurio Dawson: I taped my segment and I don't even look the same.
• 1:20:42
  Maurio Dawson: My wife was like it's not even the same person.
• 1:20:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you send it to me on my drive so I can.
• 1:20:47
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll send it to you.
• 1:20:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think I can post it though, because it's probably trademarked right.
• 1:20:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a show you can't.
• 1:20:54
  Maurio Dawson: Well, you can't, well, I I posted it on on my instagram because it's me.
• 1:21:02
  Carmen Lezeth: The whole show, no not the whole show, just my segment.
• 1:21:04
  Carmen Lezeth: How did I miss it?
• 1:21:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't see it on instagram.
• 1:21:06
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you guys see it on instagram?
• 1:21:07
  Maurio Dawson: I put it on my story.
• 1:21:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't put, I didn't post it, I just put it, I would have marked something, I would have.
• 1:21:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, yeah, I'll put it because.
• 1:21:15
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't post it post it, but I put it on my Instagram stories and my Facebook stories, so if you saw it that day, it was on my stories.
• 1:21:25
  Carmen Lezeth: But yeah, if you yeah all right, well, let's talk later, because if you could send it to me on my drive or whatever, I can then send it to everyone else.
• 1:21:33
  Maurio Dawson: I can, but just a quick story from that whole day.
• 1:21:36
  Maurio Dawson: So when I got on the show, um, I met, of course.
• 1:21:42
  Maurio Dawson: I talked to wayne brady.
• 1:21:43
  Maurio Dawson: I told him about my wife's school.
• 1:21:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if you guys know this story um, I told him to me in the I think it's on the podcast yeah, but I don't think well I don't know, it might have been I don't, no, that's a lie you told me afterwards in the green room.
• 1:21:59
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, I didn't tell you on the show.
• 1:22:01
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 1:22:01
  Maurio Dawson: So when I talked to Wayne I told him about my wife and her school.
• 1:22:07
  Maurio Dawson: They were actually going to see the Wiz.
• 1:22:09
  Maurio Dawson: So at that moment I told him it was the first time a lot of our black and brown kids were actually going to see a like a broadway show or in that forum, and he was so inspired by that he wanted to meet all the kids after the show.
• 1:22:24
  Maurio Dawson: So, but the day of the show he was sick.
• 1:22:27
  Maurio Dawson: He ended up having a some type of virus, lung lung infection that whole week so he wasn't in the show that week.
• 1:22:33
  Maurio Dawson: But what he did was he sent he Cox and Alan Mingo Jr to come and talk to the kids after the show.
• 1:22:43
  Maurio Dawson: That is so awesome, it's so and it was so nice and so kind and they talked to the kids.
• 1:22:50
  Maurio Dawson: The kids were first like who are they?
• 1:22:52
  Maurio Dawson: And then I said it's Glenda and the Wiz and they were like oh, and then the whole their faces just lit up.
• 1:23:01
  Maurio Dawson: It was a great experience.
• 1:23:03
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm certain it was great.
• 1:23:04
  Carmen Lezeth: It's nice that you went to Wayne Brady, but that was the better get.
• 1:23:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, actually, no shade.
• 1:23:09
  Maurio Dawson: You know, no shade to Wayne Brady, but yeah, Deborah Cox was a great get.
• 1:23:13
  Maurio Dawson: So and she's, yeah, actually Alan Mingo Jr.
• 1:23:20
  Maurio Dawson: He'sa big Broadway vet.
• 1:23:22
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't know his pedigree until I really looked him up.
• 1:23:25
  Maurio Dawson: Then I watched him on.
• 1:23:27
  Maurio Dawson: Because I don't know, because I watched Doom Patrol on HBO and he was on Doom Patrol.
• 1:23:32
  Maurio Dawson: I didn't realize it was him.
• 1:23:34
  Maurio Dawson: I know, you don't, I saw it.
• 1:23:36
  Maurio Dawson: Who was he?
• 1:23:37
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, he was.
• 1:23:37
  Maurio Dawson: You don't, I saw it, who was he?
• 1:23:38
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah he was the drag queen in oh okay.
• 1:23:42
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, and then he was also.
• 1:23:43
  Maurio Dawson: He was in Kinky Boots, also on Broadway.
• 1:23:48
  Maurio Dawson: In the original no, he replaced what's the gentleman's name?
• 1:23:53
  Maurio Dawson: Billy Porter.
• 1:23:55
  Maurio Dawson: You know, billy Porter was on it.
• 1:23:56
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, billy Porter, yeah.
• 1:23:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, you're kidding me.
• 1:24:00
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, so Billy Porter was originally in Kinky Boots and Alan Mingle Jr took Billy Porter's place and played it for a long time right after him, so he's got a pedigree.
• 1:24:12
  Carmen Lezeth: He's underrated.
• 1:24:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Billy Porter is amazing.
• 1:24:18
  Cynthia Lopez: He's amazing.
• 1:24:19
  Carmen Lezeth: Amazing, he's so underrated.
• 1:24:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I love everything about him, everything.
• 1:24:24
  Maurio Dawson: He's funny.
• 1:24:25
  Maurio Dawson: To me he's very funny and he's very talented.
• 1:24:27
  Maurio Dawson: And, like I, didn't like.
• 1:24:29
  Maurio Dawson: The first time I heard Billy Porter was when Alma and I were watching First Last Club.
• 1:24:35
  Carmen Lezeth: We're going to jump off too, because we're at the 130 mark, which you know, yeah, we're going to get up.
• 1:24:39
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, a lot of editing.
• 1:24:40
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, he was in, he sang in the First Wives Club and he sang the song Love Is On the Way and that was the first time I had ever heard Billy Porter.
• 1:24:49
  Maurio Dawson: I remember that moment because I was like that's an amazing song and it stuck with me.
• 1:24:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think I ever saw that.
• 1:24:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Is that with the three?
• 1:24:57
  Maurio Dawson: With Bette Midler, diane Keaton and Goldie Hawn.
• 1:25:00
  Maurio Dawson: It's hysterical.
• 1:25:02
  Maurio Dawson: It is a funny, funny movie I'm not going to remember it.
• 1:25:05
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah.
• 1:25:07
  Maurio Dawson: I'm just kidding, I just don't remember it.
• 1:25:11
  Maurio Dawson: And then they did a black version on BET with Jill Scott For real.
• 1:25:19
  Maurio Dawson: They did it with Jill Scott, michelle Buteau and Ryan Michelle Bethea, which is Sterling K Brown's wife.
• 1:25:25
  Maurio Dawson: It was funny.
• 1:25:27
  Maurio Dawson: It wasn't the movie.
• 1:25:31
  Maurio Dawson: They took the concept of the three divorcees getting back at their husbands.
• 1:25:38
  Maurio Dawson: Same concept I'm thinking of that movie.
• 1:25:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Now you know what I'm confusing it with Whatever movie.
• 1:25:44
  Carmen Lezeth: What's the country singer Dolly Parton.
• 1:25:49
  Carmen Lezeth: It was right, remember.
• 1:25:50
  Maurio Dawson: Oh, you're thinking like 9 to 5.
• 1:25:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh my God, oh yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.
• 1:25:54
  Maurio Dawson: Okay, sorry You're thinking 9 to 5.
• 1:25:56
  Maurio Dawson: Yeah, because there was three women for that.
• 1:25:58
  Maurio Dawson: That was Lily Tomlin, dolly Parton and James Bond.
• 1:26:03
  Carmen Lezeth: That's a group of people, huh, that's what I'm confusing it with.
• 1:26:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:09
  Carmen Lezeth: We are at the 1.30 mark, which I didn't even see the time before I was even paying attention to it.
• 1:26:15
  Carmen Lezeth: It's hard to cut us off when we're having fun.
• 1:26:20
  Maurio Dawson: I'll stop talking.
• 1:26:21
  Maurio Dawson: Shut up, you do.
• 1:26:23
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm in talks all the time.
• 1:26:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it's you and me together.
• 1:26:27
  Carmen Lezeth: That's bad.
• 1:26:29
  Maurio Dawson: I'll shut up.
• 1:26:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Or I'm being good.
• 1:26:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Notice how Cynthia and Rick are not like oh my god, it's not you guys at all no.
• 1:26:38
  Maurio Dawson: No, If Notice how Cynthia and Rick are not like oh my God, it's not you guys at all.
• 1:26:42
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, it's not you, it's me.
• 1:26:43
  Carmen Lezeth: So we're going to say goodbye right now.
• 1:26:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Please like share, subscribe.
• 1:26:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Smash that button Uh-huh, and well, I want to say thank you Again.
• 1:26:53
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to give a shout out to LinkedIn because we keep getting followers on there and I just think it's freaking awesome.
• 1:27:04
  Carmen Lezeth: I just I'm stunned.
• 1:27:04
  Carmen Lezeth: It's a trickling, but it's a constant trickle, so it's really great, so thank you for that and thank you everybody for listening to our private lounge.
• 1:27:09
  Maurio Dawson: Boom, there you go thank you, rick.
• 1:27:14
  Carmen Lezeth: as always, I appreciate you, and mar, I love that you're here.
• 1:27:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Thank you, bye everyone.
• 1:27:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Remember it's all about the joy.
• 1:27:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by.
• 1:27:24
  Carmen Lezeth: All About the Joy.
• 1:27:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Be better and stay beautiful folks.
• 1:27:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Have a sweet day.