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1087 - 60 Days In (s4e14) "Six Months Later" with Keisha · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, just a quick content warning for today. Trigger
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: warning for suicide guys. There's a lot of discussion at
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode about Nate and suicide and
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: suicidal ideation. It's very hard to listen to, so if
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: it's not for you, you can just skip the last
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  Speaker 1: part of the episode when we talk about Nate and
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  Speaker 1: take care when listening. Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: It's Monday. It's a mugshot Monday. It is the final
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: episode of sixty Days in season four. Where are they now?
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  Speaker 1: Six months later? Kisha? Are you ready to in some
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  Speaker 1: cases literally say goodbye to these people?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Can we skip that part? Now?
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be at the end. It's going to
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: be the end.
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  Speaker 2: I just can I just turn my camera off and
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: just walk off set when you do that part.
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  Speaker 1: No, this is not a reunion where you get to
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: walk off set. No, it's not that kind of.
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  Speaker 2: I can't run off the stage like Esa saying, don't
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  Speaker 2: exact me. I can't do anything dramatic like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, you cannot, geez.
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  Speaker 2: The restrictions. Here are the restrictions.
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  Speaker 1: I want everybody to know that today is a day
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: of morning because Bob Weir has passed the Grateful Dead.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows. If you're watching on video, I am in
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  Speaker 1: a Grateful Dead T shirt. I will be on a
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  Speaker 1: different Grateful Dead T shirt every day of the week
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  Speaker 1: because I do have a stack. It is in a
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  Speaker 1: category in my closet Grateful Dead T shirts. And I
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  Speaker 1: am a lifelong Deadhead, well since college. And I'm very
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  Speaker 1: sad about the passing of Bob Weir and and regretting
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't go to San Francisco for those shows. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the tickets were in the thousands, and it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be logistically impossible for us to get there and
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to do it and go and then
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  Speaker 1: have to stand amongst the unwashed masses on a field.
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  Speaker 1: And I wasn't into any of it, and neither was Dave.
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  Speaker 1: But we, uh, we didn't go, and he does. He
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  Speaker 1: has some friends that went, and I'm sorry we didn't go.
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: That was the last time Bobby or was played. That
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  Speaker 1: was I believe it was in September. It was the
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  Speaker 1: sixtieth anniversary with the Grateful Dead. And I didn't go.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. I've seen him many many times and he did.
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  Speaker 1: He's done a lot for music. And you know they
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  Speaker 1: were just inducted with the Kennedy Center Honors, you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh last year, right after Phil Lesh had passed, another
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  Speaker 1: founding member. So Keisha's like, oh my god, I don't care,
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  Speaker 1: but for people to do care, I do want you
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  Speaker 1: to I do care. This is a this is a
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  Speaker 1: week of morning I am and I vanted grateful dead
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  Speaker 1: T shirt. Listen, he was seventy eight. But you know
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  Speaker 1: these these these old rockers, man, they live longer than that.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean that's a good run for like
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  Speaker 2: a rocker. Yeah, if you really think about it, like
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: seventy eight, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: But then you think about our parents' agency, You're like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: that's still that's still you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So seventy eight, so yeah, run, my dad's eighty seven.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, mom, say.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But listen, he got cancer. It says just from
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: the bitch.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that his team put out is said he
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: had he had gotten cancer. He beat it, but then
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: he had a lung problem that developed. And that'll get you.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: So anyway, rip to Bob Weir and you know, Bob
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  Speaker 1: Weir had a he spoke of a like a three
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: hundred year plan, you know, so that the music just
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: lives on. So that's why he and some of the
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: others sold all of the rights to all the Gratefulness
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  Speaker 1: to John Mayer so he can kind of keep it
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  Speaker 1: going with the music. And so as they say, the
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: music never stopped and we're still here. If there's shows
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: at the sphear, we're still going to go nice and nice.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're gonna go.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go. In other sad news. I did travel
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: to Phoenix for the festival, and we did lose that
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: game barely a bad call at the literal last second
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: that they didn't call, and whatever, we came out the winners.
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  Speaker 1: The world rallied around Old Miss and I just saw
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  Speaker 1: like so many It was like on the Bill Maher show,
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  Speaker 1: he was talking about it, I mean just like wow, yeah,
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: like all over people were talking about the season. So
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: he was.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about it. If the dinner ow was that last night? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I heard them say, oh, miz, But then I
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  Speaker 2: just glossed over start talking about reality TV.
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  Speaker 1: I know, it's strange to think that I'm talking so
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  Speaker 1: much about football, but it's not just me and uh
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  Speaker 1: it's so they do this thing where they show the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal. Right, the transfer portal opened and college players
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  Speaker 1: could put themselves in to the portal and another team
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  Speaker 1: could snatch them up if they agree or whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: of all the teams, ole Miss had only three players
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  Speaker 1: entered the transfer portal, which means they were trying to
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  Speaker 1: leave only three. Other teams had like twenty six, thirty five,
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  Speaker 1: you know, forty oh, and you know people that are
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  Speaker 1: trying to leave to go to other teams, and alm
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  Speaker 1: Miss only had three, so nobody wanted to leave. With
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  Speaker 1: this new coach, got rid of that narcissistic coach. Things
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  Speaker 1: are looking up. I'm happy. It's gonna be a great
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six keisha.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, knock on the wood.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So see how you just have to be positive
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  Speaker 1: because the world is exploding like like wall around us.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, look for the look for the positive year of opportunities.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's a great way to look at a keisha.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, gave me how the feels. So No, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't just for just for a moment, gave me a
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  Speaker 3: little chill. It did like point zero second. I know, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was it was.
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  Speaker 1: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 1: That's good for me. Yes, and we're getting done with
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: sixty days in and we're gonna go into love during
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  Speaker 1: lock up now. I will say that when we're recording
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: this on Sunday, some video and audio it's pictures came
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: out of Zaia and Troy's latest arrest where he tried
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: to say it was absolutely not him. His name is
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: Troy was lying. We knew it was lying, and he's all,
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  Speaker 1: why would he even say, I don't know what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It wasn't me. That's so stupid. Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: It was. A friend taught me years and years and
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  Speaker 2: years ago that if you lie, you commit to the lie.
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  Speaker 2: You take the line to your grave. You just keep
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  Speaker 2: you just keep it going. You just got so that's
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I got lied.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta keep I gotta keep up with it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't care that there's evidence right here for all you
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  Speaker 2: good people to see. She didn't do it. It wasn't me.
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  Speaker 1: The pictures are rough there, and there's a.
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: Conversation of her like in the cop car talking to
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: him go to According to Amber, because she paid money
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  Speaker 2: for all the footage, and it's all right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes according to Amber, Yeah, whooa, it's something. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that's we've got that to look forward to. Now. This
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  Speaker 1: episode is sixty days in season four, episode fourteen. Six
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  Speaker 1: months later.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 1: Quite a bit of research, I would say I spent
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  Speaker 1: I had to do recaps for three episodes on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: and I spent most of the time on this one,
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  Speaker 1: and I had a two hour episode two notes for it.
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  Speaker 1: I spent so much time on this, I got into
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  Speaker 1: such a hole that I couldn't get out of. I
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  Speaker 1: kept looking and as we as we go, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what it is. But I got to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I did was I go to the
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  Speaker 1: A and E site because I wanted to get the
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  Speaker 1: cast pictures for my slideshow that I'm going to put
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  Speaker 1: up here in a sec Okay, on the A and
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  Speaker 1: E site where they've got you know, it just starts
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  Speaker 1: at season one and scroll scrolls goal in season four
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  Speaker 1: and goes all the way through season on and you
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  Speaker 1: can click on each person. It's, you know, a professional situation.
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  Speaker 1: No mention of Nate, no pictures of Nate, and that
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  Speaker 1: made me sad.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and it's weird that there's not because I want
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  Speaker 2: to say it's because of like maybe what happens. But
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  Speaker 2: then again, this is a channel that is devoted to
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  Speaker 2: television shows about people and their charges.
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  Speaker 1: I know I was m Yeah, I was very very
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  Speaker 1: surprised that they that they did that.
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  Speaker 2: Very maybe his family requested that. I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how how all that works.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's start Black Screen and Death. Nine inmates
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  Speaker 1: went undercover in the Fulton County Jail. This is a
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  Speaker 1: look at their lives six months after the program was
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  Speaker 1: shut down. Okay, so we start with Matt and Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: I found Matt on Twitter. His Twitter is at Rice
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  Speaker 1: Street seven, which literally is like probably his address.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he would put it on there, but
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  Speaker 2: once you see how discussing his hair is, you'll never
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  Speaker 2: want to visit. So there's no threat of anyone just
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  Speaker 2: popping up at his house.
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  Speaker 1: And the only reason I found Matt was because Nate
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  Speaker 1: tagged him in something on Twitter. I couldn't find any
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  Speaker 1: Matt Reid r Eed. I couldn't find anything else, and
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything on Andrew. Currently, I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 1: to hear that about Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: He just doesn't seem like the top that would type
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  Speaker 2: to be on social media. But he's probably doing some
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  Speaker 2: kind of mission or something.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's such a world traveler. It seems like he'd be
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  Speaker 1: the kind of guy that would post his mountain pictures
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  Speaker 1: and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I guess not.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to know what he's doing, like is he
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  Speaker 1: married with three kids? Like i'd really like he just
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  Speaker 1: what full of Mormon? You know, like I'd really like
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  Speaker 1: to know. But or is he working at a gay bar?
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  Speaker 1: He listen, it could go either way. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: either way with him. Yeah, so that tells us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in real life, I'm not insane, Okay, I'm doing just fine.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, no other your hair, other than
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: your fucking hair, dude, what are you doing?
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just it's this. Maybe he's allergic to shampoo.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: It's just bad and it's stringy, and I just don't
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: know what he's holding onto because she could not hold
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: on much of that hair without it just ripping from
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: his scalp. It's so bad.
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  Speaker 1: And then when he's at his house it's just as bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's worse. Almost, and you're like, you have
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: access to a shower twice a day, right there.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Look, I the man likes the piss and cups. Maybe
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: he only does a bird bath every day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So we talked about the pists in
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: the cup. You know, it was cringey, and he was like,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I was in a dark place. I was in fear
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  Speaker 1: for my son, and I got concerned I would act
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  Speaker 1: out in a violent way which would bleed over to
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  Speaker 1: my son. But I'm so so proud of my son Andrew. So,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew has been out for six months, and he says
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  Speaker 1: jail helped him to become more outgoing. He started dating again.
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  Speaker 1: We see him walking through the woods, you know, with
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: a walkman on, and we see Matt. He's chatting with
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  Speaker 1: his wife and his daughter, and he goes, I was
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  Speaker 1: so worry about Andrew, and the daughters and the wife
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: are just trolling him. They're like, Andrew did fine, he
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: was fine.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, and Matt has still not accepted the fact
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: that he drove himself insane. No, while he was incarcerated, like,
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: no one did anything to him. For for the most part,
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: people stayed the fuck away from him. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because he looks like one of those people like on
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  Speaker 2: the street that's yes, fighting air all the time. That's
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: what he really looked like the whole and none wants
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  Speaker 2: to be next to him because you might get hit
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  Speaker 2: by a fucking fist, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So we did see some new, some new moves from
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  Speaker 1: him that that was in prison and that they showed.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, and I'm definitely not
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  Speaker 1: going to go back and find it, but.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: It was sort of like they were a waste of moves, Like.
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  Speaker 1: We saw a lot of the touch ja, but this
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  Speaker 1: move that they showed that he did in prison, it
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  Speaker 1: was sort of a bounce up and down where he
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: was like, oh oh yeah, like up and down. I
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  Speaker 1: was like what. Yeah. People amazed because you look.
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  Speaker 2: Because he looked like a crazy person walking around talking
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: to himself the hair and then you're just like, yeah,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: no one wanted to fool with you though your only
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: friend was Johnny that he and Johnny was his friend
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: only because he was a participant in the front.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right right yeah, And they're like, Andrew did just
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: find out it was a cakewalk for him, and you
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  Speaker 1: chose to go in there. You keep complaining about it,
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: you chose to do this, and they're like, dad stupid.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he acts like he really was arrested and
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: got his son involved, and they both did time in prison,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and it was entirely his fault. He created a whole
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: scenario in his head of why they were in there,
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  Speaker 2: and none of it was true. I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: anyone asked him while he why he was in there.
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  Speaker 2: No one was interested in Matt.
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  Speaker 1: No, they were like, stay with the guy punching the
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  Speaker 1: air and talk to himself. So Andrew and Matt talk
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen, which was a wreck. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I guess they do have eight kids. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how many live there, but that place was a wreck. Now,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: if people were coming to my house, I have messed
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: everywhere as well.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: You would, but you knew a camera crew was coming.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I throw it all in a box and hide it
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: and the other exactly. Yes, that's what we do for
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: a Christmas party. We literally bring out a giant bin
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: and throw all the clutter in that bin and take
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: into another room and then we look at it later.
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  Speaker 1: So he talks about Matt, It's like, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was just panicked when you were in there. I was
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: just panicked. And Andrew goes, I just stayed out of trouble,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: and trouble didn't come to me. And Andrew says, the way
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  Speaker 1: you handle things makes no sense to me. Like it's reckless,
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  Speaker 1: and you can't you can't change jail culture. Like you're
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: not going to change the jail culture. So like, why
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  Speaker 1: were you so stressed? And Dad says, I'm a man's man.
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  Speaker 2: Men, real men wash their hair.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and Andrew goes, Look, it's okay like you,
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  Speaker 1: but when you beat yourself up for having emotions, you're
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: gonna make it worse. So you like having emotions and
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: then making yourself crazy over it made it worse. Matt goes,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, like, it's so great. You're my son. You're
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: saying all these amazing things to me. My son has
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: eclipsed me in every way and he has.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, by far, yes, because he's I think he's
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: crazy on the outside too.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You can see his wife and the daughters are like, God,
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  Speaker 1: can you go away for sixty more days?
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  Speaker 2: So you like Nate did? Please? It was a Nate program.
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  Speaker 1: Matt goes, I've realized Andrew is not soft. He's entirely
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: capable of taking care of himself. And Andrew goes. The
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  Speaker 1: thing is, is my dad realized, like, I'm okay the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: way I am, and he appreciates now how I am
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: as a person. That's all we get from them, thank God.
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  Speaker 1: And we get the black screen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's all it really was to it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he sent that boy in there because he thought he
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: was gay and he wanted the Yeah, he wanted the
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  Speaker 2: scared straight. Literally, he wanted him to be scared straight. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't I don't even know. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: Andrew's even gay. That just thinks he's soft, and he
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  Speaker 2: equates soft with softness with gayness, which is just stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew is attending graduate school and pursuing his PhD, and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Matt continues to train MMA fighters and teaches courses at
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: a local university. Now, when I looked up Andrew Reid Utah,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: there was a professor that came up from BYU. But
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't him, because it was like that guy
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: got his PhD like in the earlier two thousands. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: was like, so this is not this guy. But I
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: was staring at it. I was like, could this be him?
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, not him.
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  Speaker 2: It's the fact that Matt teaches at a community college.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: H can you what does he imagined? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He just said he teaches how to local community college.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: What is he?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe he teaches like pe.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I did wonder does he teach like Bible studies the
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Book of Mormon. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why he keeps his hair looking like that
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  Speaker 2: make closer to Jesus. Maybe that's what the things Jesus's
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  Speaker 2: hair looked like. He's like, this is what Jesus' hair
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: looks like when he's up on the cross. You know.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. Keisha, Well, either way, they've got
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful view from their back deck, and that's all
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I can do. Then now we're done with them. Okay,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: if anybody has any updated information on Andrew. We don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: really care about Matt, but let us know because we'd
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: love to know how he's doing. Loved to know, Okay, Jacqueline, Now,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I did read on the Doctor Phil blurb about her.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch that, Okay, but the baby that died
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: accidentally suffocated while sleeping within the bed with her and
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Justine that we kind of figured it was something like
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: that it was an accidental death, and she and Justin
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: each blamed themselves and then each course blamed each other.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And it isn't it is a miracle that they're still together,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: really really after that tragedy.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Because that's that's a lot.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: That's the way they're still together. Now. I looked at
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: her Instagram because we saw the instagram like with her
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: with Deante and the guy with the suit, and she
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: definitely has now veneers. She shouts out the dentist that
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: did it. She's got new teeth, maybe new boobs unclear.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: But she really doesn't post much and when she posts,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: she never puts like a caption. She's posts the picture
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with no like love being in Vegas or nothing. No
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: idea if she and justed her together. There's no pictures
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of Justin, no pictures of her daughter, no no idea
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: if she became a lawyer, Nope. She was on Doctor
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: philm and also apparently she on Nked and Afraid. Yeah,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Jacqueline thinks she's hot.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: That was pretty obvious. Yeah, she's really really hot. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: mean she's like maybe small town of like a thousand people.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Hied agree. I agree? Yeah, And here it's saying you
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: know she's been accepted to law school. She wants to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: be a criminal defense attorney. But again, we don't know
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: what has happened in her life. Okay, Nope. She says
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that she does not hold grudges with Stephanie, but what
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: she learned is that maybe she's too naive, she's too
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: trusting with people. We see Justin, we see her daughter Jima.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: She tells us that after sixty days in she and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Justin separated, and she tells him when they're at the park,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: she goes, I feel like you could have been more supportive.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I felt like you buckled under the pressure of having
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to like take care of the house and the kid
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: with me being gone. He's like, I think he did
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just fine with her being gone. I think he was fine.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, I'm really proud of you for doing
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the program. And she tells us, I'm grateful for meeting
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: all the women. Shout out to the Pink crew. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: do miss them. Black Screen of Death, says Jacqueline Jack Jacqulin.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Jacqueline and Justin got back together. They are expecting a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: baby and plan to get married. But I have no
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: idea of it happened, no idea no, I mean her.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I mean Jacqueline lived a kind of a boring life,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that we got a boring update
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: about her.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: But I spent so much time trying to figure out
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: are they still together? Did they have this second baby?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Did they get married? Did she get her law degree?
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And all I can find is we a stupid Instagram
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: where she'd barely post, and no captions, and no pictures
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of Justin, no pictures of the kids.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: No clar if I had to make a guess, she
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: did not become an attorney.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, she and Justin are long ago together. That's all
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I would guess as well. But I'm not gonna watch
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Naked un afraid to find out.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: No. And I think Justin like Jacqueline a lot more
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: when she was locked up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I know that's your theory, but they have been together
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: since high school, so I think he does like her.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, it was cheaper to keep her sometimes, amen.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Alan can't find anything current on Alan now. At one point,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: when I was looking him up, something popped up that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: looked like his Instagram name was like actor Alan, like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: he was packing. But then when I tried to go
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: find it again, I couldn't find it. And somebody on Reddit,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I was on a Reddit for so long yesterday, yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: said that his Instagram led you to believe that he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: was an actor, but you just can't find anything. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: don't like it when I just like, I just want
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to like, peep somebody's instagram, do it and then and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that's it. Assume what they're doing. That's what I want.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, the only acting that I can see him
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: doing is like, I don't know, Lord of the Rains,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Hobbit double or something like that. I mean, he's pretty tiny.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, he looked like he had eaten a steak,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: so he's got a little bit of iron. But he
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: looked a lot better, but he's still just that scrawny
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: kind of look about him. If he pulled me over
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: he was a cop, I would just keep doing.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: So he's back home and he says, you know, he's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not sure he wants to go back into law enforcement
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: because there's parts of that he does not agree with.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And before he went to jail, he was very closed
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: minded and he felt everything with the law was black
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and white and no gray. His opinion has completely changed
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: on that. He really think twice about arresting somebody and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: sending them to a place like that for such a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: minor offense. Right, and he meets with this guy named
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Officer Tommy Norman, who is a cop in Little Rock, Arkansas,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: who is known for his connection in his community. What
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was this about?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: This did not age well at all.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Why did Tommy Norman do something like last year? Uh?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Huh, I don't know any Oh yeah, last year his
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: wife accused him of domestic violence and he was or
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: since the early retirement. Now here's the scoop. No one
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: really believes that he put his hands on her. The
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: theory is is that she was doing something to him
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and he kind of like defended himself and she got
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: pissed off and called the cops because he was arrested.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: He did indeed get arrested, but he was let go.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But I mean, nothing else has happened since then. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: he went ahead and he did retire like he was
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: internet big for the community he worked that he did,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: like I followed this little his story for years.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So you know, I've never heard of this guy.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well Little Rock, Arkitas. So they walk around the neighborhood
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and he says, you know, loving the neighborhood and knowing
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the families has cut down on crime in the neighborhood.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: A bunch of the little kids come out and hug him,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: which is very cute, and the adults are like saying
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: hey from their porch, and Alan is like, this is
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what I want to strive to be. You know, a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: person like this in my community right and blacksprand of death.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Alan is working as a car salesman. He does community
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: outreach to promote a positive perception of law enforcement. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't find anything else. Alan cannot sell me a car.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I am sorry.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I need a car salesman who doesn't need
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: a booster seat to see over the steering the bill.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I am not buying a vehicle from Alan.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: What kind of a car does he sell?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Let's think like a little bitty electric cars.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean he's do you think he's selling like four
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: trucks or do you think he's selling like girl?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: He is not selling trucks. Okay, one man that really
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: is about trucks is going to listen to Alan tell
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: them about trucks. No, he's selling to a sixty year
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: old girl. So first TI, I'm ever buying a vehicle. Okay,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: that's what he's doing. Yeah, let's see and hopefully he
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't suck her blood.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's say. I'm just trying to see. I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: how funny that I do not even have a picture
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of Alan because I was just like anything either, it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was I just forgot to put it on here.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He's just kind of forgettable.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: That is so funny. I've got Matt that I've got Andrew. Okay,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: next one I've got is Emmanuel. Okay, and Manuel, Hey, look.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Girl, he tried to look so hard in that photo.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Blessing. Manuel says, you know, my life is good. I've
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: joined a new workout program because life is too short.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Being in jail helped me to refocus and energize. I'm
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: spending more time with my family. And we see him
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: he makes a joke, let's go out to the yard
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: or go out to wreck or whatever and run around
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: with his kids. And we see Emmanuel is training to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: become a mentor to the at risk youth at the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Anti Recidivism Coalition. So we see him go to a
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: meeting and listen to a guy talk about like he
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: was in jail and how he's going to help them
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: become good mentors. Here's another guy that says, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you're not your past, You're not your problems, You're not
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: your jail ctent. And he's like, Hi, I am Emmanuel.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I did sixty days, Hi, And I was like, you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: did days. You gotta take it right.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And my number one cause was when I really went in,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: there was spread awareness about mucus, some blood on the wall.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I was there as a public health safety officer. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: let them know I am from the hood. And don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you forget it, mister. So he says going to jail
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: helped him promote awareness and help people who have been
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: disenfranchised by society. Like I think you good at that. Yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And he is now a program So six months later,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: he's left his public health job. He is a program
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: manager for the California Department of Communicate correct Blah blah blah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Emmanuel is a program manager for the California Department of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Corrections Rehabilitation. He works to reduce recidivism. And I think, Okay,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: good job, he'll do good. I think he'll do.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Good at it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I really do.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he should continue to tell people
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: he did hard time for sixty days because there's two lies.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: You weren't there for sixty whole days, and you're also
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: part of a fucking program. Yes, but I think that's
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be. He's gonna introduce himself as Hi, what's his
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: name again, Emmanuel Bouchie, Emmanuel Boucie Little, Boucie Little, And
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I did hard. I did sixty hard days.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And or forty one and a half, depending on how
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: yeah I see it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Forty one and a half, but it felt like sixty
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: because there was fucking mucus on the wall.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, Johnny, Now, Johnny, it seems like according to Reddit now,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and I told you before we would before that, Johnny
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: is all over the Reddit. If you go to the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: sixty days in threads, any threads you go to, Johnny
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is there, and it is like the official Johnny sixty
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: days in and people are like, oh my gosh. I mean,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: no matter what anybody writes, he's in there. He's either
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: trolling them, like if they said something bad, he or
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he agrees. But I did get a lot of my
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: information about Nate that we're going to discuss later from
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Johnny's post. Okay, Oh, so Johnny has a lot Johnny messy.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: He's not messy. He's kind of sticking up for him. Yeah, okay, okay,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: let's see dad. All this stuff is about Nate that
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we will Now here's something that happened I actually saw, Okay,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I was actually reached out to I was going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: reach out to Johnny okay, because I was like, okay, boy,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So he he knows so much about what happened with Nate,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: and I think also he would know, like what's Alan doing.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: He would know what everybody's doing. So I went to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: his Instagram and was like, oh, I'm a sin of
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a DM, sent of a DM and immediately regretted it
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: when I looked at the rest of his instagram because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: he has some extreme views on things that I do
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: not agree with. I'll put it that way, And it
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: was shocking, being that he is a Hispanic man living
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in the United States his views. So I rescinded my
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: DM and said, Nope, don't need to talk to him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But I do thank him for his service and I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate him keeping his friend's name alive, you know, talking
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: positively about Nate, of which we'll get into.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing about Johnny. This was the person
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that had the most interesting story. Yes, of them all,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, And nothing was done with it, period,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: point blank. Nothing was done with his story. I mean
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: from him being not just a gang leader. You start,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: do you the bad motherfucker you have to be saying
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start my own gang, and you get
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: people ret it to be part of it. Yeah, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: then you have this son who probably followed you in
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: your foots, in your footsteps, and he's been presented for murder.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But he was such a nothing burger. I know, there's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: so much we could have learned about that Johnny.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: So much potential, and we got you know why, because
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: he was Oh I was shouted by that fucking crazy person.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, Yeah he was. And uh I did
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: find out the Reddit that his son did get out
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: two years ago. Oh good, and appears to still be
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: out and doing fine.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay good.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So in this segment, he says, the whole jail experience
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was like a Christmas Carol, Like I saw Johnny Pass,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Johnny President, Johnny Future, and you know, it's lonely in there,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and you would be locked down, you had nobody to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: talk to. It was really lonely and he says, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a successful person now, but I wasn't supposed to be.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to die at seventeen years old. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I now appreciate sitting down for a meal with my
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: wife and you know, the small things in life. So
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they're sitting and at the dinner, he and his wife,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and she says, now that you've done this, do you
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: have a better understanding of Johnny, your son Johnny? And yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I'm realizing how hard it's going to be for him
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: to come out to get on his feet. You know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: we just have to support him and love him, and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I want him to like come out and live with us.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the wife's like, now what now, say how
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: can we?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, did you clock that? Because I clocked the look
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: on her face, and it made me think, is she
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the mom of that son? Because she had a look
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: on her face.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Like, oh whoo, No, she's not the mom of that son?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But oh really because they have the kids that are
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like nine and eleven and the one in prison is
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like in his twenties.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, because as soon as she make that face, I'm like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think she's the mom because the mom would
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: never make that face. She'd be like, oh, yeah, one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: hundred percent. He needs to kind of live with us.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: But she was like, uh, thank you, Mary Payne.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, because Johnny had that kid when he was
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like eighteen, and now he's in his fifties. You know,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: God got and then he's got there and then he
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: actually like turned his life around, got married and has
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: these younger kids. How his mom and them?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: What about that?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And he says, you know it in the jail, what
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I realize is many of the inmates are missing a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: father figure. Yeah, And so he goes, I'm coaching my
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: uh second Sons, so second Sons baseball team. I believe
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the structure of baseball keeps kids on the right path.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I love I love baseball, and I love teaching. So
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: this has been great. I really want to help the world,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and to do that you have to start with the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: kids that are young. And then Johnny is coaching Little
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: League and speaks with his son often, and like I said,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: what I found out is that he is you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the son is out and Johnny Junior seems to be
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: doing fine. You can look at him upub. You could
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: just look up Johnny sixty days and I think it's
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Johnny Hernandez and you'll see all his stuff and you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: if you scroll down a little, you might see some
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: stuff that is shocking. But anyway, I'm gonna.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Take your word for it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, just take more word for it. But I do
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: appreciate that he does go on the Reddit and you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: answer question and answer questions show. Okay, Stephanie can't find
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: anything current on her ass either.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: That's surprising.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: There, I'm very okay. Now I've got a couple of
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: very funny slides. Okay, first of all, this is what
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: this is the picture that is on the A and
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: E website for her.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: She's so stupid and then she posed like that she is.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: She's a weirdo, really person.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, but another picture that was on Reddit. Is this.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: The accuracy? Yeah, I love comparing people to the female Gremlin.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And I cannot write I never it was her name, Greta, Greta.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's her name. There's some women, especially nowadays,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: with like the wigs and extreme lips and things like that,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that just look like her. I'm she's somehow making a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: comeback in pop culture because I don't think she got
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: enough recognition for what she brought to Gremlins too.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard at this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: It looks like her.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So, you guys, if you're not watching on video, it
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: is pictures of Stephanie at that tell all where she
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: is looking like the full girl from the Gremlins.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, And so when I was watching Stephanie back, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: kept thinking about how we were talking about her nose
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: last week, huh, and the shape and how she has
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: what is it the what doptom? And I always call
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: it a bull puller. Yeah, so you know what she
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: looks like. She looks like the female dragon from Shrek.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Her nose is the nose of a dragon.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because listen, I'm going to tell you something.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's got a bad nose. I just
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: think she's accentuating the part of it that she doesn't
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: need to concentuate.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, because I never really noticed she had a bad
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: nose until she got that stupid air ring nose in there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I just can't get over it. And those it's the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: contacts that scare me. It's like she's like a whatever
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you said, a white walker or whatever. I don't know
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: what that means with that but I think you're right.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: It's day Walker. Oh Blade Blade Wesley Snipes is Blade?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, is white Walker from Game of Thrones. Yes,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and I didn't watch that either, you silly goose. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: don't I try to watch anything, Okay, I just so
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the dementors. I just compare a lot of people to dementors,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Okay, No, Harry Potter's my jam I know Stephanie. Okay.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So she says, you know, when you get out, you
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: have to adjust to the real world. And she's still
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: living with her boyfriend Matt, but on the couch he
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: looks like he wants to smother her in her sleep.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Well, we knew, and I think it was mentioned that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: she was not going to be with this dude when
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: she got out.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: She didn't know why she just ran all over him.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I bet she did.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: He's probably half scared of her.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: You have say, he looks like, no, you get home tonight.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: How lovely is that pillow? Could I choke you out
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: with it? She's a lesbian now, you say some things.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: She has a new girlfriend. She's gay now now she says,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I was always gay? Like, duh, what's wrong with you?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: What? Stop?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: She said? I've always been gay. She never told anybody.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Stop, so I think goes too much and does too little.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I bet she had a girlfriend in prison, but they
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: didn't never show it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Well because she was the one who said that everybody
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: has a girlfriend. And when she said that, I was like,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: you said, did she for her to say that?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: You said, did she have one? Sea I'd already watched
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: a head that I didn't want to like say.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: So she was in there making tints too, we just
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: didn't get to see it.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I bet she was. And she says, you know, my
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: family is very religious, but now after jail, I feel confident.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: So I just told everybody. And then she looks right
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: at the camera goes, I want America. Okay again, Oh
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: bitch again.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: You were not on survivor Big Brother, Traders, any of these.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a competition. It was an informative show that
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: you were on.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: The producer goes, okay, so what does that mean? And
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: she laughs and goes, why does everybody say that? Because
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it's not true. So they show the clip from the
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: jail where she says, I like winning. I won in
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the sense and then she says I won in the
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: sense that this is exactly what she said, and I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: remound it several times because when she said it, I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't think that makes sense. That I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: went back to make sure this is what she says.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I won in the sense that I did what I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: accomplished to do for myself.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Which was what find out that you were a lesbian?
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But what was it? I did what I accomplished to
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: do for myself. What she's trying to say is I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: did what I set out to accomplish for myself. But
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: she says, you know what you said.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: She always says stuff wrong.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I did what I accomplished to do for myself. That
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it any I just wrote girl what, Girl what? Anyway,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: she says I got information while blending in. I mean
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I did whippets or a pillar two. But I was
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the best participant I will always be and that will
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: go down in history. I mean, I was better than
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Angel because that dumb ass Blue Recover. I was better
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: than Jacqueline because they thought she was a participant. Oh
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: my god, Okay.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: So she's not. She got no, she didn't get any
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: better after the show.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Now she learned.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: She came out worse.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: She came out worse. Yeah, and she got feedback and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: still didn't take it. And and you know, she had
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to get a lot of hate, a lot. You go
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: in that reddit and it is hate after hate after
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: hate after no. Not one person had anything to be like, well, no, And.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: She's one of those people that thinks I've got hater
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: That means I'm really on and poppin' like she thinks.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: It's like this great thing, right, But I can't find
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: anything about her. I can't find any Instagram.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's really a prison. That's where she seems to thrive.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's where she's at.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And so the producer says, let's talk about Jackie, and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: she goes okay. So they see we see her saying
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I don't trust Jackie, but I use her. We see
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: her saying and when I don't need Jackie, I'll throw
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: her under the bus. And we see her saying I'll
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: be glad when she goes home. And the producer says,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: what was the deal with Jackie? And she goes okay.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: People wanted to know why I treated her so poorly.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: It's because I didn't like her. Six months later, I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: do not speak to her, and she has blocked me
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: because everybody knows the truth. She tells everyone, I sabotized her. No, dear,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: you sabotized yourself.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what show she watched. I really, she's
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: on a whole different channel than the rest of us.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: That's exactly it. She's completely on another plane. Yeah, she says, no,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the jail experience did not improve my relationship with my
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: brother or sister as much would no, because you do
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you Yeah, you're unlikable. And she says, you know, I
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: wish that it would have improved my relationship with them,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but it didn't. But I do now have more empathy
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: for inmates. So she meets with her mother, Wanda, who says,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: more than once a girl, I knew you always wanted
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to bump Kuchie to Kouchie. And remember when I asked you,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: do you want to bump Kuchie to COUCHI and girl,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you know you want to bump Kuchie to Kuchi. That
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: is gross. That is your mother gross.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: It was just so unnecessary to say that. But now
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you you see where some of the craziness that Steffany
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: has comes from. Because her mamma ain't right.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You're right, and they did flash back when they were
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: at that chili's and she was just throwing with his
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: chicken fingers and that things like.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Well, she was so upset. She was so upset though,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: but she is not going to pass over that trip
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: or dipper no whatever they call it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Can I please get sometings from my sauces? But then
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I gotta go.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: God, I'm just strong.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I gotta go, but I am gonna need it back
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: for my Okay. So the mom tells her. She goes,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I ain't not agree with all you do, but I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: do love you and I support you. She says, thanks, okay,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and then mom is asking her, have you met the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: girlfriend's mom and she says, yeah, I've met her, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: her mom goes, okay. She says, well, I'm gotta tell
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you something. When you were in prison, I was so
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: worried about you. I took out a life insurance policy
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: on you. Mom was like, I was hoping this turned
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: into a dateline.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yes I did, Yes, I did.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Now, Sephanie, you ought to be worried because that's the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: first time when somebody takes out a life insurance policy
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: on you, they're trying to get rid of you.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: She was really hoping her darted did not come back.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: She was thinking, I want to I'm going to be
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the winner in this situation.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, yes I am, Yes, I am. And if and
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: if small had gotten a hold to her, she may
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: have cashed in.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, Sephany says, I wanted to prove move
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to myself and to my family that I could do it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And Mom says, well you did, and I'm proud of you.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: God knows. At the end the black screen of death,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: says Stephanie started a new job at an elementary school
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: as a teacher's aide.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: This is how we know there is a severe crisis
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: is going on in public education in the United States.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine you would have her know, as your
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: teacher's aid. No, it would like that mean lady was
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: mean to me when you went to the bathroom, Miss Smith.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And she kept calling the swool and talking about this
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, Like what's she Every Wednesday? She
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: calls it women Wednesday, Like what is what is that?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: She keeps saying that she's a present. Yeah, it's my girl.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: She's still living with Matt. Now, if she's so proud
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of herself for being a pharmacy technician, why didn't she
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: pursue that as a career. Why she with somebody job
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: hops like that?
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: There's because there's some them wrong with them. And why
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: isn't she living with her girlfriend? Why is she still
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: living with this more poor sweet white guy that can
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: be another black girl that would treat him so right,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: that's right, and who he's not afraid of. And he
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: probably sleeps with a knife underneath this pillow every night.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Well I think he thinks every night tonight for the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: night I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna kill her, because
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: when she was talking to him, he was looking over
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: to her like, oh, why is she still Yeah? Poor thing?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: All right, Angela. So the show ended with the Angelai,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: but we're gonna end with Nate. So from her social media,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: it looks like she just got married in August of
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to a woman looks like a beautiful beach.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: What it was a girl? Woman married a girl. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: it appears she's now a film director, girl writer and director.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Anybody with a camera you'd be a film director.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: It looks very profession it looks very perfecsial.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Just because something looks professional does not mean it will
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: be successful.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Y'all could go check out her website, Angela Cooper dot com. Okay,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: so her segment, we see she's back in Atlanta and
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: she says this whole thing was surreal, Like she's looking
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: at she can't believe she's back there. She says, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: when you're in jail, you feel time moves so fast.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: But since I've been out, like I've got, I felt
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: like I was in there for a year. You know. No,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to exit the way I did, But overall,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it was a beneficial experience. I learned a lot about myself.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you did it. And yeah, last time
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I spoke to Gabby, she wasn't doing well. She'd gotten
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: back into drinking. Girl, you were drinking with her in
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: prison and doing drugs. You were doing drugs with her
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in prison, drinking with her, and you're trying to be
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: surprised that this girl relapsed.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I can't get the past that she's in hot ass
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Atlanta with that button, that the top button.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: But it just I just want to go, yeah, yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: A little bit like girl show a little chests or
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: something like that, like why is it button all the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: way to the tippity top.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: She says, you know, I was gonna fly Gabby to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: see me wherever she lives. I can't remember, she says,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: but I haven't heard from her, and I've actually flown
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: here to look for her. No, you did that, Yeah,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know, because Gabby is a hardcore addict, and I
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: hope she's not too deep back into her addiction. And
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: then says, uh. Angelaie has not seen Gabby since the
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: program was shut down about four weeks ago. She lost
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: off contact. So she says, you know, in my time there,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that what I did would shut
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the whole program down. And do I regret it? No,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I regret saying I regret it. I regret that I
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: regret saying that I regretted it, that I said I
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: regretted it just now, and that you regretted it. Did
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: you regret it because I regret it. I don't regret it,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: but I regret saying I regretted it. I was like,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: oh my god, we get it.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: She's so immature that it's scary even going back home,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like after the reunion, going back home watching the show.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: She still no, she still didn't see anything wrong in
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: what she did.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: She says, you know, especially because of somebody likes Stephanie,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: she was treating treating this ship like a game show.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: You know, she was a trifling ass, deceitful person who
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: had the audacity to point the finger at me. And she, well,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: well did you, because that's what you did.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she was treating like a game show. You
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: were treating like it was a whorehouse, like it was.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It was like Harry's Harry that Way house.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: It really, yes, it was uh huh.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: She goes, you know, I didn't even join that participant
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: group on face Facebook, you know, because they're all friends
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: with each other. I'm not part of the I'm not
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: part of the participant group. I'm part of the inmate group. Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Fuck that.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: People.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: She says, these women they deserve love. They're not animals.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: You don't know their story, and you know that's my opinion.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: She keeps saying these women deserve love, as if anybody
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: has said somebody in prison doesn't deserve love. No one
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: has ever said that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: No, And she's still failing to realize why she was
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: part of the program as well, right right, that you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: have sympathy for them, but you could have done so
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: much more if you what if Steff may say, bumping
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Kuchi to Kuchie.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: You concentrated.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were more concentrated on that than doing anything else. Like,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: what did you report back to the perneval?
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: What did she? She like, here's how they get the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: drugs in, or here here's how we were able to
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: have a full blown strip club party with bouncers and stuff.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And nachos and all kinds of shit.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you had.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You had a full blown fucking party there with a
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: guest list.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: So now she's going to meet with Gabrielle's brother Danny.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Now this was interesting and I enjoyed it quite a.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Bit, so cause he did not play around at all.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I was like, thank you.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: So she tells Danny, you know, Gabby's the first person
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I ever met that was addicted to heroin. And he goes, yeah,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: she's been missing for four weeks. She missed a court date,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: she miss to a probation appointment, and you know, like
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: we just want to know, like she was still with us,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you know. And so Angela goes, is this like normal
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that she would drop away for this long? And he goes,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes she'll parsonally drop off the map. But right now
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: she's on the run. She doesn't want to be found,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: like she has missed a probation appointment, a court date,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: so she's out in the wind. She's on the run.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Angel goes, well, you know, it's so great because like
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: she had that job. He goes, oh, does she tell
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you she had a job at a hotel? She goes yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and he goes no. She goes no. He goes no,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: she never worked, not once. And she's like wow, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: he goes. He goes, she's fucking with you. She's lying.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: She played, she played you. That's her game. Yeah, And
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Angel goes, well, did she she told she at least
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: she told you all about me. He goes, no, he's no, girl,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I never heard you. Not one thing.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved every single because he had
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: no sympathy for her, probably because he watched the show
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and saw what an asshole she really was and he
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: just gave it to her. But you got played.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, not one thing. He goes, here's the thing.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: She's a pretty girl. She bats her eyes. She tells
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: you a compelling story and she can relate to you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and sell it. But yeah, you got got.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: And then he also said that she's a manipulator even
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: when she's not on drugs.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Well that's what he said. He said, she's a beautiful
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: manipulator and she's only looking out for Gabrielle. And Angel goes, so,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: was she like that when she was sober? Or it
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: was the drugs did it? He goes, No, she was
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: always like that. The drugs made it worse. So Angel's like, wow,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I've really been hurt and I've been through
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: some shit in my life, and I got to say
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: this is a big one, you know, to really care
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: about someone and have them take advantage of your heart
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and your kindness. And he goes, yep, well she played you,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know what else to
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: tell you. Girl.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Everyone fucking saw it except for you.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And Angel goes, well, wow, okay, talking to you is
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: actually giving me some closure and I'm accepting this, so
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: thank you for talking to me. And she tells us,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I learned a lot about Gabby today. You know,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: she's a good manipulator and I fell for it, and
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I believe Gabby was strong enough to become the woman
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: she said she would, and for me, it was real,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: but I guess for her it wasn't real, and that's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: on her. You know, I have closure, but I miss
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: her and I hope she's okay.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You thought she was going to be this good Christian
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: wife while you were in there, and you witnessed her
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: do drugs and you knew she had a drug problem.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: And you did drugs with her, So you're not so
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: great out there. Yeah. Angelae has not seen Gabrielle, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: they speak occasionally. Angelaie now has a new girlfriend and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: lives in New York. Now you found Gabrielle's Instagram and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: that was a journey. That was a journey because she's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Santa cos playing in front of a christ Was tree.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: And then if you click on her link tree, she
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: does have only fans.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, she's not looking good, that's all I'll say.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: But she's alive and doesn't appear to be on drugs
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and maybe as a.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Kid, maybe yeah, maybe, yeah. But I wouldn't have spent
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: any money on her only fans, not even just to
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: see what it's about. No, no, thank you. I've seen
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: enough on Instagram.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it tells me. Everything Instagram is
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: called it's like the real I can't remember the real book.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which made me realize that people are named Brie
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's short for Gabrielle. I never realized that. I
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: never knew that because it's you take out the middle, right. Okay,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to go on to Nate. Mm hmm, Okay.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: So I did find out why he went into sixty
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: days in Okay. Okay, So what I've read on the
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: reddit is that he went into sixty days in because
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: we when he was on his second tour of Iraq,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: his brother went into prison, and Nate really wanted to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: get into the prison system. He felt prison system should
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: be run more like the military, so that people get
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: some discipline for when they get out. Okay, So that
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: was one of the reasons he went end. Okay, So
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: let's see. Nate was disappointed that when he was stationed
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: in Iraq on one of his two combat tours, his
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: older brother had been arrested and was facing prison time.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: He believes that the criminal justice system should be tougher
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: on criminals in order to dissuade them from returning to prison,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and he argues prisons should be more militaristic and less
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: flexible when it comes to inmates liberties. So well that changed.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's interesting, that's but that's why I went in.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have never thought that would be his
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: reason for going.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: And we also found out the scar was because he
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: got elbowed in a basketball game and he didn't snitch
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: or anything, and so he got a lot of respect
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: from the other inmates because he said it was an
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: accident or something. So somebody else takes in trouble. Okay,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So here's his segment. He was in jail for four months,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and we see when they asked him, do you want
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to say from their sixty days? He says it helped
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: him to fully develop the relationships, and he says Desmond
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: is his friend for life and he needs to Desmond
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: needs to focus on how to be a better person.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He tells us that after sixty days in he and Kaylin,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend, broke up. He now has a business restoring
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: homes that have water and fire damage, and he wants
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: to hire veterans and formerly incarcerated guys. He's going back
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to Fulton County Jail. Colonel Are shows him around and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: shows him the new intake away that they're doing things
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: where they do a strip search, and the colonel says
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: they have interjected, and he says it three times wrong.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: He interjected rejected, interjected a bunch of contrabvery, and he
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: means to say intercepted. Anyway, they interjected a bunch of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: contraband they interjected firearms and knives and body cavities.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how one gets one's cavity is prepared
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: for a firearm to fit in there.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Or a knife. I should, but it's a bubble wrap.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Has to be. Because I was thinking. I was like,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: they've got to wrap it up in plastic. I still
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't take that chance.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Uh So, Nate's gonna go talk to some of the inmates.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: He hope they won't know be mad think of him
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: as the stach. He walks arounds like wow, this is crazy.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: We see him kind of walking around, you know, the area,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and he sees some familiar faces. He talks to a
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: dude in five o three. The guy's telling him he
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: wants to get a trade to be an automachanic. But
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: we don't recognize this guy. We don't see Desmond, and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: we don't see any of the other guys. That we recognize, no,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and so I could had Nate says, I did this
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: for a bigger purpose. I'm just getting started. And then
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: we see Nate enrolled in college and playing is to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: continue hiring veterans inmate. Now and let's talk about anything else.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately for you, we are going to have to talk
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: about all of it. Okay, So if you guys don't
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: know what we're talking about, Nate and I've got lots
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: of details about what happened. Oh okay, So Nate, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: some of this came from Johnny on the reddit. So
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Nate was married to this other girl. Okay, and according
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: to the reddit, Okay, they were having a bad time
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: in their marriage and they were separated. She said she
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: was pregnant. He thought the baby was not his. He
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: was wanting to get a divorce. She texted him a
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. This is according to Reddit, so it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: alleged she texted him a bunch of stuff and got
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: him to come over. They had sex. The next day.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: She pressed charges on him and said that he sexually
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: assaulted her and that he came at her with a gun, etc.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Of which he said none of that ever happened. And
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: there was all these sex messages that to prove she
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: was like, come over here, and then then she said
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: something went down. Now that doesn't mean he went over there.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Something went down and he could have assaulted her. But
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: he said one hundred percent none of it was true
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: at all. The girl made up all these lies because
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: she wanted to make sure she was going to get
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: custody of this kid that she says was his. Okay,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: So I saw a note on Johnny on Reddit Nate
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: regarding Nate, and he said the suicide that Nate ended
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: up killing himself was because of his PTSD and his
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: wife falsely accusing him. These are things that pushed him
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: over the edge. Johnny has spoken to the X and
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: she has said to Johnny that the lies that she
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: told him got out of hand and Nate asked her
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: for a divorce because he believed the kid was not his,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like they had a terrible relationship.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And she was trying to manipulate the situation. Yes, oh man,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: so he really didn't turn bad from what I can tell.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: No, now people may know more about the situation, but
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: this is what I am reading, and this is what
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Johnny said, that this was like this evil woman blah
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: blah blah. There's two sides to every story, you know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and we don't know. So let's see. I'll pull up
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a picture of her. There he is cute, Nate, that's
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: the wife.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: So I mean we have to do is wait for
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the baby to be born. And if it had Nate's
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: big ass for her and he no, it was his
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: because whoa mega mind.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So at some point Nate had checked into like the
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: VA hospital and and said he had suicidal thoughts and
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: he was reaching out for some help. And later in
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: the suicide note, I'm going to read you some stuff,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: he says, Oh God, He says, you know, I went
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: for help and was made to feel like a criminal,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: and they took away all my personal liberties, which was
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: probably triggering for him. He was unable to use the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: phone or anything. And he said, in my time of need,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I needed to reach out to my family and they
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't let me. They made me feel like a criminal
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: because I went in trying to get some help for
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: my mental health issues. So that was one thing, and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: he was like that system is broken. So he posted
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a very long suicide note on Facebook, three thousand words,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: whoa Oh God, and his family alerted the police, who
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: went to look for him. So a policeman's doing a
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: patrol comes upon him and Nate shakes his head at
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: the guy when he sees him in the car and like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: don't come over here. And the guy finds him. Nate
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: gets out of the car and you guys, don't listen
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to this. Don't listen to this if it's going to
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: be upsetting. This is the warning. And I'll actually put
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: another warning in before I start telling the story, and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I read the police report. The cop comes up to him,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Nate gets a weapon, points it under his own chin
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and tells the guy like back up, like you're not
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: gonna stop me. So the guy shields the police and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: then some more police come. They shield the cells behind
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the car. More family comes, but he never sees the
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: family because I think that would upset him. But they
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: are trying to help him, talk to the negotiators to
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: get him to put the weapons down. And people were like, oh,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: he did it in front of a pizza Hud. He
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't coming out of a pizza Hud and decided to
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: kill himself. That's where that's where he parked his car.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: When the cops were after him, So the newgogotiator talked
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to him for forty minutes and then he did pull
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the trigger. His sister put out a statement and said
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Nathan loved his country, his family. He was a very
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: caring guy. He was in a bad place. His Twitter
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: profile is still up at his nat a boy, like
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: at a boy, but nat a boy. Yeah, his sister
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: profile is gone on Twitter. One day people were asking
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: him questions. He was like, I don't know how to
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: work this Twitter, but he was trying to answer questions.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He said he and Desmond were definitely still in touch.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I found Desmond on Instagram. It seems like he's in jail.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: It was an Instagram host from jail as you do, Okay,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: so this is uh. It seems like Nate had gone
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to a military hospital for suicidal thoughts and he says
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: they took away his ability to talk to his family,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: so he had to lie to get out of there,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: and that system is broken. He needed help. Also, his
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: suicide note mentioned his ex wife who I don't know
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: ex wife current wife was separated from, who was pregnant.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: She told him she would ruin his life and had
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: no idea who he was messing with and he says,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: so you're right, your win, You win. I have no
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: idea who I was messing with. You're right, so he
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: saying on the suicide note, like you win, and he
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: said he saw no way out. He said, to all
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the people that think they could have talked to me
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: out of this, know that you couldn't have There's nothing
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: you could have done. I was set on doing this.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: We all have our we all have our day, we
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: all have our time to go. Most people don't feel
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like we should decide that first, But I'm here to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: tell you I've made that decision. And as hard as
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: the decision was, I'm happy with it. I'm done fighting
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: with the demons in my past today and the ones
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that are coming for tomorrow. He also mentioned like how
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: hard it would be to fight this court case, even
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: knowing that he had the evidence on his side. Yeah,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: and he was currently at the time working as a
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: fish and wildlife officer in Michigan. So he had gotten
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: a community college.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Was a good job and a good job.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Working, and he had had become a you know, a
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. So you guys, middle of the season
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: or maybe like four episodes in or three episodes, and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: somebody sent us I can't remember who, a DM and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: told us that Nate had ended his life and we
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: were just like, huh, Nate. Yeah, we didn't believe it,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and we told Kimberly and then we looked up a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and we just couldn't believe it. So
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: it's really really hard to look up this season and
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: not just be bombarded with stories about it, like Daily
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Mail paid six, like everybody covered it and we did
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: not know and Kimberly didn't know, which is crazy. But
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: it is a really really sad end. And like I said,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Johnny was on there a lot when people would say
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: stuff like he was he he was a rapist, he
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: was this, and Johnny was like, no, he wasn't. He
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: had charges against him that had not been proven. And
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: he had an ex wife who I have spoken to,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: who said the lies got out of control and Nate
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: suspected the baby with somebody else's and other people were
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: saying there was all this evidence that she that he
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: was going to use the cord, that she had asked
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: him to come over and have sex and stuff. So
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: he had not sexually assaulted her. He had not pointed
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: a gun at her whatever. We don't know what is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: true with all of that.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I would all the way around, I.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Would hope that he didn't do any of that, but
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: we actually don't know, and he was obviously in a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: very very dark place.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so sad because he helped so many people
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: while he was in prison. In jail, you're at a program,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: and no one was able to.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Help him, right, And he says, like I know all
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: of my friends and family. It is something like I
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: know all my friends and family saying I'm so great
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: and I have all these talents, but I don't see it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: And none of you, none of you could have helped me.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: None of you could have talked to me out of this.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: So don't beat yourself up over that. So it's interesting,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Like in the suicide note, he's like thinking of other
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: people after he's gone. What they will say. They will
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all say I could have helped and he's saying, you
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: couldn't have. I mean, it's interesting right for him to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: be thinking of other people. I don't know, it's very sad,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: but it's interesting of all the stuff that I couldn't
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: find anything on so many people, but I found his
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Twitter was still there and I could read all this stuff.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Here's a picture of him that I think was must
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: have been in Iraq, and it's one of those have
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: you ever seen those stupid Trump banners with Trump where
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: he looks like like a rambo with all the guns
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff strapped on it is standing underneath one of
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: them with like the exact guns and stuff, actually looking
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: like the poster you know, wow, Yeah, with all the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: muscles and the stuff. Yeah, but it is really really sad,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to end it on a sad note.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: But if we have to know it, you have to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: know it. I wish I didn't know it, but you know,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: that's his story. That's his story, and that's how it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: ended up. And it's too bad. And again I don't
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: know anything. I don't know if the woman had the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: baby and it is his. Yeah, it's very very close
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: with the family and this woman. Maybe she had some
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: help she needed. I don't know anything about it. But
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: let's just try to remember how he is. Cute thing. Yeah,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: such a cute guy, so nice, so fat. That's who
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: want America, Not you, Stephanie, not you, this girl. I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: forgot to even show you this, This picture on the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: bottom right, that's scary. That's what That's what Angela looks
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: like now. She's a director and writer based in Los Angeles, California. Yeah,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: well that's that's what she looks like now. But I'll
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: never forget. Well ended on a funny note with yeah,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: with Sephanie looking like the female Grimlin.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Greta the Gremlin. I'm pretty sure that's a named Greta.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I had no idea who that was. I thought it
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: was like from another show. I didn't know.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: You've never seen Grimlins too?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Uh uh? I was like, is that girl from Fraggle Rock?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: She is not a fraggle she is a total Grimolin.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: You guys, I hope you enjoined our coverage of sixty
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: days and it's crazy that the way that it hit exactly,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the timing was great. It's meant to be that we
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: were meant to cover it, and uh love your lock
• 1:04:44
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• 1:04:46
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• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: the hell out of that here so we can make
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: sure we're all paying attention. I cannot wait.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: Be interesting.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: She's a wig expert. Now I just went and looked. Man,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: she's she's.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: She really, I mean and she I mean even on
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: the show during her season, like she can wear a wig,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: like she could wear wig and it doesn't look like
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: a wig.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: It looks great. Yeah. I think she's got some sort
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: of collab, you know.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: So I think she.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Shows like how she gets the wig on and then
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: how she does the edges and all that, and I'm fascinating.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: All the shit that I cannot do.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, always fascinated how you make it look not like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: a wig. I blend in because we've seen someones that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: it's lived right up. No good for her. Well, Loved
• 1:05:38
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• 1:05:40
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:44
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• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry we ended on a bad note, but
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: this was a great show. And if we ever have
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a break again, like sometimes they throw Mama June at
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: us and we get a Loved Your and lock Up break,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: we'll do We'll do another one, So sound off.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: I welcome Mama June with open arms.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I know you cover John, but I do not. I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: will not. So you guys, if there's another season that's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: like really great and you think if you ever do
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: it again, you need to cover this one. You guys,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: let us know. I've heard lots of people go, yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: say different numbers, but I can't remember because I was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: too focused on this. But let us know. And tomorrow
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I'll be here with Kimberly to talk about before the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: ninety Days was a great episode. And then Thursday I'll
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: be back with Pop and Bravo. I haven't done it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: in a few weeks with my buddy Ace Fanning. It's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: going to be a great episode because we are going
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to be rolling into episode one of the Salt Lake
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: City Reunion.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Keisha can't wait for that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Okay, not wait, Keisha. I will see
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you on Wednesday for the Welcome to Class Fill ten
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: dollars prime episode, and other than that, I'll see you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: next week for Love during lock Up. Bye bye,