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- 0:00Hello and welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, the inventor of gold leaf,
- 0:09as it's called in the US, or liquid gold in the UK.
- 0:12And one of the questions we often get asked about our fertilisers.
- 0:16Including gold leaf and many of the other fertilisers and biostimulants,
- 0:20is why don't we sell them in garden centres, or nurseries as you call them in the US,
- 0:25or the big box hardware stores like b&q home
- 0:30depot and places like this well i'm going
- 0:33to talk about why that's not really possible
- 0:36and because of the the way that sector works and
- 0:40the sort of products that go into them and why you should probably avoid buying
- 0:43your fertilizers from garden centers nurseries and
- 0:47hardware stores so the main
- 0:51problem is that these products are formulated for
- 0:55hitting a specific price point for the general public the
- 0:58general public is a condition to buy on price and
- 1:02as a result most store-bought fertilizers are
- 1:05formulated using the cheapest possible ingredients that
- 1:09includes low-grade urea based nitrogen
- 1:12all of the potassium and
- 1:16the magnesium and the chlorine is coming from chlorides
- 1:19which are really good for getting into solution but magnesium
- 1:23chloride calcium chloride potassium chloride
- 1:26they're not good for plants they are the cheapest possible form of those nutrients
- 1:31and they cause other issues the chlorine causes loads of issues for the plants
- 1:36it's like the sort of stuff you'd put on grassland chlorine you wouldn't put
- 1:40it on high value horticulture but they end up in these.
- 1:45Home home fertilizers at garden centers
- 1:48because they are just cheap and then filler filler
- 1:51products to inflate the weight of the product so they may
- 1:54meet the bare minimum requirement for npk on
- 1:58the label but they're not necessarily the
- 2:01best thing that your plants want and in fact the likes
- 2:04of tomorite and miracle
- 2:07grow can sell a bottle of fertilizer for
- 2:11to a garden center for less than
- 2:15it would cost a company like ourselves to fill
- 2:18a bottle with water that's just the
- 2:20unit economics that the economies of scale that
- 2:23someone like miracle grow can do so they could fill their
- 2:27bottle with these these cheaper fertilizer ingredients
- 2:30whereas we couldn't even fill it with water and deliver it
- 2:33to the so that they are the margins being
- 2:36made are small but they're just selling so much
- 2:39of it so the likes of ourselves selling premium
- 2:43fertilizers for hydroponics and horticulture
- 2:46higher end horticulture we do not sell to garden centers primarily for this
- 2:52reason and also because if you if a garden center started selling an expensive
- 2:58product no one would buy it in the general public because they they wouldn't understand it.
- 3:03The second reason is that there's this illusion around seaweed with the general
- 3:09public, especially in the UK.
- 3:11I went to a plant finder's fair once with a customer, and this should have been the premium...
- 3:20Customers for fertilizer these guys should have known and girls should have known about,
- 3:26anything about to grow premium plants they were looking for
- 3:28rare plants so they were you know these are
- 3:31not just people off the street looking at plants these are these are connoisseurs and
- 3:35i asked i asked everyone there what do they use currently for fertilizer and
- 3:4090 said seaweed extract and like you've just got your head in the hands going
- 3:44this is why we don't sell to the general public because seaweed contains no macronutrients,
- 3:52no NPK,
- 3:53no phosphorus, no potassium, no nitrogen, no calcium, very little sulfur.
- 3:59But they think when they're buying a seaweed extract at the garden center or
- 4:03the hardware store that they're buying a fertilizer.
- 4:06They're not, they're buying a biostimulant. And any NPK that's in there has been added.
- 4:11So the likes of MaxiCrop, they add npk to
- 4:14seaweed extract because the general public think that seaweed
- 4:17is a great fertilizer they don't understand the difference between a biostimulant
- 4:20and a fertilizer both have their
- 4:22place but then seaweeds are not fertilizers and
- 4:26so you are just you try and sell fertilizer into
- 4:29that market where people are preconditioned to buy seaweed extract
- 4:31which is actually one of the best-selling you know
- 4:34products in the garden center you're banging your head against a brick
- 4:37wall and then the third reason you should
- 4:40avoid garden center fertilizers is
- 4:43that they don't contain any calcium or sulfur as
- 4:46a general rule and so all liquid products will
- 4:50will not have calcium in in a garden
- 4:54center unlike gold leaf in
- 4:56the us or liquid gold in the uk which is a liquid product that does
- 4:59contain calcium crucial for cell wall formation
- 5:02and tip growth you get black rotting growth if
- 5:05you don't have enough calcium you get blossom end rot in your
- 5:08tomatoes so the likes of tomorite is designed
- 5:12for tomato growers doesn't have any calcium in it and yet
- 5:15the number one problem with tomatoes is blossom end rot and then all the powdered
- 5:20products don't contain any sulfur and sulfur is essential for protein synthesis
- 5:24flavor aroma very dull yellow leaves if you don't have sulfur and so these emissions
- 5:30lead to deficiencies and that's why you shouldn't buy garden center, nursery fertilizers.
- 5:35They are the cheapest chips, the calcium, the chloride based,
- 5:39and they don't have any calcium or sulfur.
- 5:41The other one is that nurseries and garden centres can be extremely hot in the
- 5:46summer and extremely cold in the winter.
- 5:50They're not like going into a grow shop, which is temperature controlled.
- 5:54They can stay on the shelves for months or even years. They're dust collectors.
- 5:59That's why a lot of fertilisers are not white bottles because you can see the dust on a white bottle.
- 6:05Whereas liquid gold and gold leaf that's in a white
- 6:07bottle because it doesn't sit on a sorry it doesn't sit on
- 6:10a shelf for a long time and over time
- 6:13micronutrients can precipitate and degrade in stored
- 6:16in these non-optimal conditions you
- 6:19shouldn't be storing fertilizers above 40 degrees
- 6:22celsius but they will be you know in a nursery in sort
- 6:25of you know those garden garden centers are basically
- 6:28built inside greenhouses old greenhouses then um
- 6:31so you're have faded potency on the old stock you
- 6:35know the other reason is that you've got misleading labels and
- 6:38targeted products you've seen them tomato feed
- 6:41orchid boost cactus care bonsai products
- 6:44these are often the same base formula but
- 6:47with minor tweaks and often just more
- 6:50dilute so orchid cacti bonsai citrus
- 6:54are normally just the same fertilizer just
- 6:57diluted down and to make them weaker and even
- 7:00worse than that miracle grow sell ready to use pre-diluted fertilizer in bottles
- 7:06that is morally repugnant to me because the amount of plastic required to deliver
- 7:12the same amount of fertilizer as a bottle an undiluted product is crazy the
- 7:17amount of plastic they're using.
- 7:18Miracle grow are using tons and tons of fertilized to deliver product that should
- 7:23just be diluted at home and i think they shouldn't be able to sleep well at
- 7:27night because of that it's a disgrace and so really you're you're buying dilute
- 7:33fertilizer if you're not careful.
- 7:35So watered down and marked up ready to use are often 99 water less than 0.1
- 7:41percent nitrogen so just think about the amount of you know gasoline required
- 7:47to get that to the store as well,
- 7:49another reason you shouldn't buy garden center or nursery based or hardware store fertilizers,
- 7:55no after sales expertise or support if something
- 7:58goes wrong what do you do if something goes wrong while using
- 8:01gold leaf in the us you phone their technical team if you're
- 8:04using a utremer product like liquid gold in the uk you phone
- 8:07our staff you can phone me directly and you'll get superior
- 8:11technical support from people who are trained agronomists or
- 8:14even plant scientists whereas you really are hit and miss when it comes to a
- 8:18hardware store or a garden center you'll probably have someone who's got no
- 8:22training whatsoever and if they do it'll be someone with a basic horticultural
- 8:26qualification you might even
- 8:28get a sales rep even worse so that's very contradictory very different.
- 8:34And of course, if you buy it in a grow shop, then you're obviously going to
- 8:36get those grow shop hydroponic experts who will know what they're doing and
- 8:40they can give you loads of advice as well.
- 8:42And then the other reason you shouldn't buy garden centres and nurseries based
- 8:45products is, especially from the high-end ones, is you're paying for the shopping experience.
- 8:50Much of what you buy pay for in a garden center is the
- 8:53retail experience not the quality of the nutrients or the
- 8:55food whatever you're buying from that garden center the plants
- 8:59it's nice packaging branding it's a nice
- 9:01experience there's a cafe wide aisles with
- 9:04lots of choice but is it really what you're after should you be going
- 9:07to a grow shop and buying the best
- 9:10possible fertilizer and the people who are in the know
- 9:13the people who grow you know giant vegetables and rare plants
- 9:16and and show produce often
- 9:20go to hydroponic shops even if they're not hydroponic growers
- 9:23because they know that's where you're getting actually getting good value even
- 9:26if it's more expensive you're still getting better so what
- 9:29to do instead buy from a specialist hydroponic store look for transparent ingredient
- 9:33lists and complete profiles avoid ready-to-use and dilute products invest in
- 9:39proper base nutrients supplements like silicon cal mags tricontinol boosts.
- 9:47Well, it's good to look at humic acids, seaweed extracts,
- 9:51all these sorts of extra things that you can put on top of your base nutrients
- 9:54rather than buying cheap chloride-based products.
- 9:59So the truth is, fertilizers and garden centers keep your plants alive,
- 10:02but they really help themselves thrive. A bit like really cheap bargain supermarket pet food.
- 10:08Going to keep your dog alive, but is it really what it needs to thrive?
- 10:12They're built for the masses, built for the people
- 10:15who don't know what they're doing and just want
- 10:17to buy on price they're not built for precision and optimization
- 10:20and in hydroponics that's a big risk as well so if you buy a product that doesn't
- 10:24get any calcium sulfur and is full of chlorides then you are on for a loser
- 10:30and also if you buy there's the baby bio herb product i analyzed once it's ph12
- 10:37that is unbelievable you know that is.
- 10:41100,000 times more alkaline than it should be on the logarithmic scale.
- 10:47I haven't worked it out, but something like that, it'd be 10,000 or 100,000
- 10:50times more alkaline. So your plants would really suffer unless you were growing
- 10:53in soil there to buffer it.
- 10:55So yeah, some crazy pHs you'll find in a lot of the cacti bonsai products that
- 11:02you'll find for sale in a UK garden centre.
- 11:04One company that I'm not going to mention that do these specialist fertilisers,
- 11:09their products can be like ph1 ph2 i guess from the phosphoric and nitric acid
- 11:14that's in it really dangerous gonna,
- 11:16burn you never mind the plants if you get that
- 11:19on you so yeah be careful and then seaweed extracts as
- 11:22well they can be really high ph so if you
- 11:25are interested in more advice on that then more than happy to
- 11:28advise you but as i say don't be buying cheap and
- 11:31nasty fertilizers from you know the pound
- 11:34shop from the dollar store from home
- 11:38depot or garden center any garden center you always go to a hydroponic store
- 11:42or a specialist supplier okay that's been hydroponics daily for today why you
- 11:49shouldn't buy garden center fertilizers any questions give me a shout and if
- 11:53you are a grow shop remember my giveaway from yesterday we've got a periodic
- 11:57table of plant nutrients.
- 12:00Available to anyone who would like a poster to go up in their store. It's an A1 size poster.
- 12:06It's the bee's knees. It's really good. I've put a lot of time and effort into
- 12:09it and I can show you it's really good and your customers who come in will really enjoy reading it.
- 12:14Thank you very much for listening. Until tomorrow, that's been Hydroponics Daily.