Latest / David Pollack Primetime / Clancy Crazy?
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Tonight, a mass shooting in Minneapolis leaves two people dead,
- 0:14Speaker 1: three officers injured, two shot, carried out by a man
- 0:19Speaker 1: everyone around him knew was dangerous.
- 0:22Speaker 2: And get this, he was allowed to have a gun anyway.
- 0:26Speaker 1: And overnight, Iran fired missiles at Kuwait and at our
- 0:29Speaker 1: troops across the Middle East.
- 0:31Speaker 2: But good news, the oil still flows. More on that later,
- 0:34Speaker 2: but first.
- 0:35Speaker 1: FOR SIX DAYS NOW, 12 PEOPLE IN A COURTROOM IN
- 0:39Speaker 1: MASSACHUSETTS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO AGREE ON A SINGLE QUESTION.
- 0:43Speaker 2: AND IT'S NOT THE QUESTION YOU MIGHT THINK.
- 0:45Speaker 1: IT'S NOT WHETHER LINDSEY CLANCY STRANGLED HER THREE CHILDREN, CORA.
- 0:49Speaker 2: WHO WAS FIVE, DAWSON, WHO WAS THREE, AND CALAN, AN
- 0:52Speaker 2: EIGHT-MONTH-OLD BABY. SHE DID IT.
- 0:54Speaker 1: SHE SAID SHE DID IT. EVERYONE IN THE COURTROOM PRETTY
- 0:56Speaker 1: MUCH AGREES THAT SHE DID IT. I DON'T KNOW IF
- 1:04Speaker 1: IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A
- 1:07Speaker 1: GOOD IDEA.
- 1:07Speaker 2: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T
- 1:12Speaker 1: KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
- 1:14Speaker 2: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA. WHAT SANE
- 1:30Speaker 1: PERSON WOULD EVER DO SUCH A THING?
- 1:32Speaker 2: NONE WOULD. AREN'T ALL MURDERERS ON SOME LEVEL JUST A
- 1:36Speaker 2: LITTLE BIT CRAZY?
- 1:37Speaker 1: THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. AND AS IT TURNS OUT, THE
- 1:41Speaker 1: LAW HAS ANSWERED IT. BECAUSE BEING MENTALLY ILL, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
- 1:46Speaker 1: THE DIAGNOSIS ISN'T A DEFENSE IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS
- 1:50Speaker 1: TO BE.
- 1:50Speaker 2: FOUND NOT CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE.
- 1:58Speaker 1: The law requires that your mental illness robbed you of
- 2:01Speaker 1: the capacity to do one of two things. To understand
- 2:05Speaker 1: that what you were doing was wrong or to stop
- 2:09Speaker 1: yourself from doing it. That's the entire test. Juries find people,
- 2:13Speaker 1: by the way, with very real and very serious mental
- 2:15Speaker 1: health illnesses guilty all the time. Being mentally ill and
- 2:20Speaker 1: being unable to tell right from wrong are two completely
- 2:24Speaker 1: different things. And this is why the jury is struggling
- 2:27Speaker 1: so much right now, because at this point, they have
- 2:30Speaker 1: to decide. The burden is on the prosecution to prove
- 2:33Speaker 1: beyond a reasonable doubt that she wasn't nuts. And that's
- 2:38Speaker 1: the whole ballgame here. So what we're dealing with is
- 2:40Speaker 1: a jury that's struggling with a very difficult question and
- 2:44Speaker 1: some other things today, by the way, because beyond the
- 2:48Speaker 1: jury being hopelessly deadlocked, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY IS THEM
- 2:53Speaker 1: ASKING QUESTIONS. AND ONE JUROR WAS POINTED OUT TO HAVE
- 2:57Speaker 1: SAID THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME APPLYING THE BEYOND A
- 3:01Speaker 1: REASONABLE DOUBT STANDARD. THE CASE IS GETTING CRAZIER BY THE DAY.
- 3:06Speaker 1: THE DEFENSE, I THINK, WANTS THE CASE TO CONTINUE. THE
- 3:09Speaker 1: PROSECUTION THINKS THE INSTRUCTIONS TO THE.
- 3:11Speaker 2: JURY IS SUFFICIENT. AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT
- 3:15Speaker 2: NOW ON THE SIXTH DAY. We'll find out. Is she
- 3:21Speaker 2: going to prison? Is she walking out of that courtroom?
- 3:24Speaker 2: Is she going to a hospital? Well, that's where she's
- 3:26Speaker 2: going tonight.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Joining me now to make sense of everything and where
- 3:28Speaker 1: we're at right now is lawyer and legal commentator Viva Frye.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Thank you for being here yet again to break this
- 3:36Speaker 1: case down. Today was a wacky day. I thought we
- 3:39Speaker 1: were heading towards a mistrial. Jury deadlocked. You know, they
- 3:42Speaker 1: had this sidebar. They wheeled Lindsay Clancy over. And they're
- 3:45Speaker 1: saying they sent another note. And they're like, we're not
- 3:48Speaker 1: able to make a unanimous decision here. And then we
- 3:51Speaker 1: find out, which was the craziest twist of the day,
- 3:54Speaker 1: that one juror refuses to apply the beyond a reasonable
- 3:57Speaker 1: doubt standard. What do you make of what happened today?
- 4:02Speaker 1: It seems at this point we're looking at dismissing a jury.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I mean, one particular juror, not so much a mistrial,
- 4:07Speaker 1: but I don't know.
- 4:07Speaker 2: What's your take?
- 4:09Speaker 3: Look, I saw the breaking news and full disclosure, I'm
- 4:12Speaker 3: a former lawyer, so I'm one of the good ones
- 4:14Speaker 3: who got the hit.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 4:17Speaker 4: Did criminal law. We studied it.
- 4:20Speaker 3: So, you know, my initial reaction when I saw the
- 4:22Speaker 3: news was I don't believe what I'm listening to. The
- 4:25Speaker 3: defense counsel getting up in open court, thanking the judge
- 4:29Speaker 3: for not doing the sidebar confidentially so as to allow
- 4:35Speaker 3: the public.
- 4:35Speaker 5: To hear this.
- 4:36Speaker 3: And then literally specify that one juror is the one
- 4:41Speaker 3: against 11 holding out on a full acquittal on the
- 4:45Speaker 3: basis that that juror refuses to apply the beyond a
- 4:49Speaker 3: reasonable doubt or reasonable doubt standard to whether Lindsay Clancy
- 4:54Speaker 3: suffered from a mental defect at the time that renders
- 4:57Speaker 3: her criminally not responsible.
- 4:59Speaker 4: I can't imagine.
- 5:00Speaker 3: Any more active juror intimidation that's ratified.
- 5:04Speaker 4: By the court.
- 5:05Speaker 3: And this is independent of whether or not I think
- 5:07Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy should be found guilty or not guilty by
- 5:10Speaker 3: reason of insanity. This, if it happened on any side,
- 5:15Speaker 3: one juror who refuses to convict or one juror who
- 5:18Speaker 3: refuses to acquit, To single out that one juror, especially
- 5:21Speaker 3: in this climate, you're not naming the juror right now,
- 5:25Speaker 3: the lawyer conveniently said he, she, but you are anticipating
- 5:29Speaker 3: that this juror is going to be identified later on,
- 5:31Speaker 3: and if this is the one juror that holds out
- 5:34Speaker 3: on a mistrial so that you have to go through
- 5:35Speaker 3: a new trial, the blowback that that juror is going
- 5:37Speaker 3: to get in the eye of a public that is
- 5:40Speaker 3: apparently in this state now, 11 to 1 in favor
- 5:43Speaker 3: of a finding of not guilty by reason of insanity, that's...
- 5:47Speaker 3: I don't know how that's not juror intimidation.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Well, we don't know what the 11 others want, though, right?
- 5:52Speaker 2: We don't know that.
- 5:53Speaker 1: We just know that there's one person preventing them from
- 5:56Speaker 1: coming up to a verdict. Not necessarily a verdict of
- 5:59Speaker 1: guilty or not guilty, right?
- 6:00Speaker 2: How do we know?
- 6:02Speaker 3: My understanding, having listened to what the lawyer said, it's
- 6:06Speaker 3: one who refuses to... It's 11 to 1... for an acquittal, but,
- 6:11Speaker 3: you know, not guilty by reason of insanity.
- 6:13Speaker 1: But why do you think that's 11-1 to the acquittal?
- 6:15Speaker 2: Did I miss, maybe I missed something today.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I'm pulling the clip now.
- 6:20Speaker 4: That's pretty much exactly what the lawyer said.
- 6:21Speaker 3: He's like, and when he's leaving the courthouse, the gaggle
- 6:24Speaker 3: of journalists are like, well, why not just be happy
- 6:27Speaker 3: with a mistrial and.
- 6:28Speaker 4: Do it again? He's like, because we verbatim, we kicked
- 6:31Speaker 4: the shit out of.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Them in this trial.
- 6:32Speaker 4: We don't want a mistrial.
- 6:33Speaker 3: We want an outright acquittal or finding of not guilty
- 6:36Speaker 3: by reason of insanity.
- 6:37Speaker 4: So to me, I have to do.
- 6:40Speaker 3: A minimum amount of research just to see if my
- 6:43Speaker 3: initial reflex is right or wrong or on track. It
- 6:47Speaker 3: seems like publicly identifying that there is one juror holding
- 6:51Speaker 3: out for a full acquittal or finding him not guilty
- 6:54Speaker 3: by reason of insanity is not improper, but unorthodox, to
- 7:00Speaker 3: say the least. That's where it's at as far as
- 7:01Speaker 3: I understood it.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't know that we knew what the
- 7:04Speaker 1: other jurors were thinking. I just knew that the other
- 7:06Speaker 1: jurors said they were able to make a decision, and
- 7:09Speaker 1: this one juror was not making a decision because they're
- 7:13Speaker 1: not willing to apply the beyond a reasonable doubt standard.
- 7:17Speaker 2: And I think.
- 7:18Speaker 1: And I think the defense attorney wanted the judge to
- 7:21Speaker 1: be harder with him, like, be very specific. And the
- 7:24Speaker 1: prosecutor's like, no, no, we think your instruction was good. So,
- 7:28Speaker 1: I mean, so I guess to your point, maybe the
- 7:30Speaker 1: prosecution is happy with this juror holding out.
- 7:33Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 7:34Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Is it's a holdout of one to the 11 for
- 7:38Speaker 3: a finding of not guilty by reason of insanity. And
- 7:41Speaker 3: the defense wants this juror removed at this stage of
- 7:44Speaker 3: the deliberations because the defense is arguing he's not willing
- 7:48Speaker 3: to apply the reasonable doubt that the judge imparted. And
- 7:52Speaker 3: I think I mentioned the last time I was on,
- 7:54Speaker 3: when the judge basically came out and said, it's the
- 7:57Speaker 3: judge's job, but to say they need to prove the
- 8:00Speaker 3: prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt that Lindsay Clancy was not
- 8:05Speaker 3: inflicted with a mental defect at the time she committed
- 8:07Speaker 3: the murder. So it's like they have to prove beyond
- 8:09Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt the absence of something, which is very
- 8:13Speaker 3: difficult to prove. So my understanding is there's one juror
- 8:15Speaker 3: who says, you know, I, I, I have re effectively,
- 8:19Speaker 3: I have reasonable doubt, but I refuse to let Lindsay Clancy,
- 8:24Speaker 3: you know, be found not guilty by reason of insanity.
- 8:27Speaker 3: And the defense now wants that judge, that juror removed because,
- 8:31Speaker 3: and they did this publicly. And the lawyer says, thank
- 8:34Speaker 3: you for doing the sidebar publicly because he wants the
- 8:36Speaker 3: entire world to hear this.
- 8:39Speaker 4: It feels very, very dirty move.
- 8:41Speaker 2: It's the whole case has been crazy.
- 8:43Speaker 1: I mean, between the, The people, the pink wearing people outside,
- 8:47Speaker 1: the lady who ran and took a juror's picture, the
- 8:50Speaker 1: days and days of deliberations and also not whether or
- 8:54Speaker 1: not this lady killed her kids. We know she did,
- 8:56Speaker 1: but whether or not she was so crazy that she
- 8:59Speaker 1: couldn't not kill her kids. It's very it's a very
- 9:03Speaker 1: difficult case emotionally for a lot of people. I think
- 9:07Speaker 1: I personally don't believe that she was insane by the
- 9:10Speaker 1: evidence I've seen. I'm not a juror. So it's up
- 9:12Speaker 1: to the jurors to decide. They sat through all the testimony.
- 9:15Speaker 1: But it's been a very interesting case. Nonetheless, in the
- 9:17Speaker 1: country is gripped. We're going to keep watching it. Maybe
- 9:20Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll have a verdict. I thought we were going
- 9:22Speaker 1: for a mistrial. And when he started going juror to juror,
- 9:24Speaker 1: I posted a social media. I'm like, oh, we're going
- 9:26Speaker 1: to the mistrial because the judge wants to be sure
- 9:29Speaker 1: that the jury was unanimously saying we can't reach unanimous verdict.
- 9:32Speaker 2: AND THEN THIS CRAZY THING.
- 9:34Speaker 1: HAPPENS WITH THIS ONE JUROR, AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T
- 9:36Speaker 1: EVEN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ANYMORE.
- 9:37Speaker 2: VIVA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
- 9:39Speaker 1: WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WATCHING THIS, AND TOMORROW WILL BE
- 9:40Speaker 1: ANOTHER DAY.
- 9:41Speaker 2: WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE A VERDICT. MY PLEASURE.
- 9:43Speaker 4: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
- 9:43Speaker 6: THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
- 9:45Speaker 1: STILL AHEAD, NEXT WEEK, THIS COUNTRY MARKS TWO ANNIVERSARIES, 25
- 9:51Speaker 1: YEARS SINCE 9-11 AND ONE YEAR SINCE THE ASSASSINATION OF
- 9:55Speaker 1: CHARLIE KIRK. We promised to never forget, have we? Then
- 10:00Speaker 1: a mass shooting in Minneapolis carried.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Out by a man his own neighbors warned could kill.
- 10:06Speaker 1: And Iran attacks Kuwait as President Trump keeps the oil flowing.
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- 10:54Speaker 1: Next week, this country will stop to mark two anniversaries
- 10:58Speaker 1: separated by more than two decades and bound together by a.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Single broken promise.
- 11:03Speaker 1: On Thursday, it'll be one year since Charlie Kirk, 31-year-old
- 11:08Speaker 1: husband and father, was shot on a college campus in Utah,
- 11:13Speaker 1: killed for standing behind a microphone and debating people who
- 11:17Speaker 1: disagreed with him.
- 11:19Speaker 2: And the very next day, on Friday.
- 11:22Speaker 1: The 25-year anniversary of 9-11, thousands of Americans murdered on
- 11:28Speaker 1: a beautiful September morning. And for this nation, for one
- 11:32Speaker 1: brief sacred moment, they all stood together as one and
- 11:36Speaker 1: made a promise after that to never forget, remember? We
- 11:41Speaker 1: said it to the firefighters who charged up the stairs
- 11:44Speaker 1: while everyone else ran down. We said it to the
- 11:46Speaker 1: passengers of Flight 93. We carved it into stone. And
- 11:50Speaker 1: we taught it to our children. And for a while,
- 11:52Speaker 1: we meant it. There were no red states or blue
- 11:55Speaker 1: states in the days after 9-11. It was just America,
- 11:59Speaker 1: wounded but standing. Now, look at where we are one
- 12:02Speaker 1: year from the murder of Charlie Kirk. Just this week,
- 12:06Speaker 1: a judge in Utah ruled... that the young man accused
- 12:09Speaker 1: of assassinating him will stand trial. He could possibly face
- 12:13Speaker 1: the death penalty. Next Wednesday, tens of thousands will gather
- 12:18Speaker 1: at Utah Valley University to remember him.
- 12:21Speaker 4: You know what I would love?
- 12:21Speaker 8: I would love to be a very popular radio host,
- 12:24Speaker 8: podcast host, great father, great husband, and live a very
- 12:28Speaker 8: happy life where I can run a major organization that
- 12:30Speaker 8: influences the country, and I could pick up the phone
- 12:32Speaker 8: and the president answers in the first ring.
- 12:34Speaker 4: That would be awesome. But I feel like you're doing
- 12:35Speaker 4: that right now. So maybe I'm living the life.
- 12:37Speaker 1: 25 years ago, we buried 3,000 of our own and
- 12:41Speaker 1: swore we would never forget. Today, today we can't even
- 12:46Speaker 1: agree on the facts surrounding 9-11. An Islamo-Marxist is running
- 12:51Speaker 1: New York City. New York's governor wears a hijab. And
- 12:55Speaker 1: conservatives aren't arguing with liberals about the direction of the
- 12:57Speaker 1: country or the sanctity of life.
- 13:00Speaker 2: No, instead we argue about who killed Charlie.
- 13:04Speaker 1: THAT IS THE DISTANCE THIS COUNTRY HAS TRAVELED AND THAT
- 13:07Speaker 1: IS THE PROMISE WE BROKE. MY NEXT GUEST IS A
- 13:10Speaker 1: VETERAN AND A TURNING POINT CONTRIBUTOR. HE KNEW CHARLIE PERSONALLY
- 13:13Speaker 1: AND UNDERSTANDS THE SACRIFICE THIS WEEK OF 9-11. HERE WITH
- 13:17Speaker 1: THE REACTION, MY GOOD FRIEND TOPHER TOWNSEND. WELCOME TO DAVID
- 13:20Speaker 1: POLITIC PRIME TIME. SOLOMON WEEK NEXT WEEK, TWO BIG ANNIVERSARIES.
- 13:26Speaker 1: LET'S FOCUS ON CHARLIE KIRK'S MEMORIAL. IT'S TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS.
- 13:33Speaker 1: What does this moment mean one year from when he
- 13:36Speaker 1: was murdered?
- 13:38Speaker 4: David, I agree with.
- 13:38Speaker 9: You about our misdirection when it comes to our attention
- 13:44Speaker 9: of what's important in this country. All the infighting needs
- 13:47Speaker 9: to cease, especially with the upcoming memorial of Charlie Kirk.
- 13:52Speaker 4: And his legacy.
- 13:53Speaker 9: See, legacy isn't only about what people say about you
- 13:57Speaker 9: after you're gone, but what we continue doing because you
- 13:59Speaker 9: were here. And one of the things that I continue
- 14:01Speaker 9: to do, and we as Turning Point, is show up.
- 14:04Speaker 9: We are continuing to show up for the students. We
- 14:06Speaker 9: continue to show up for our communities. And I do
- 14:08Speaker 9: hope that, just like on 9-11, we say, never forget,
- 14:11Speaker 9: that how we came together as one in this nation
- 14:16Speaker 9: to fight evil, we continue to do that same thing now,
- 14:19Speaker 9: with the ongoing onslaught and just attack from radical ideas
- 14:26Speaker 9: and just the rise of political violence.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is such an odd anniversary because I
- 14:34Speaker 1: can't even believe it was a year ago that they
- 14:35Speaker 1: killed Charlie. And if you look what's happened in the
- 14:38Speaker 1: year since, and then we'll talk about 9-11 in a minute,
- 14:40Speaker 1: but if you look what's happened in the year since.
- 14:43Speaker 1: At first, there was overwhelming support for not just Turning Point,
- 14:48Speaker 1: but for the cause, for the movement. Immediately, everybody came
- 14:52Speaker 1: together one moment. And it seemed like a time where,
- 14:55Speaker 1: after his death, people were really going to come together.
- 14:57Speaker 2: People were returning to church. Turning Point's numbers were exploding.
- 15:01Speaker 1: I mean, everything was going really in such a way
- 15:03Speaker 1: that would have honored Charlie Kirk's life in.
- 15:05Speaker 2: A way that he would have been proud. And then—
- 15:08Speaker 2: I WOULD REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT AMFEST.
- 15:11Speaker 1: IT WAS THE WEIRDEST, YOU KNOW, THE MOST SOLD OUT,
- 15:15Speaker 1: THE MOST ATTENDED AMFEST EVER IN HISTORY. EVERYBODY THERE ON
- 15:18Speaker 1: THEIR FEET FOR ERICA KIRK. EVERYBODY EXCITED TO BE THERE TOGETHER.
- 15:22Speaker 1: I REMEMBER SEEING SOME FRIENDS THERE THAT I'VE SEEN YEARS
- 15:25Speaker 1: AFTER FOR THE YEARS LEADING UP TO THAT EVENT. thinking, wow,
- 15:32Speaker 1: I see these guys all the time, and it could
- 15:34Speaker 1: be any one of them. It could be any one
- 15:36Speaker 1: of us. You know, Charlie was a guy who was
- 15:38Speaker 1: just out there arguing with people. That could happen to anybody,
- 15:41Speaker 1: and so I was so thankful to see everybody together
- 15:43Speaker 1: at AmFest. And then Ben Shapiro took the stage, and
- 15:46Speaker 1: then Megyn Kelly, and then Tucker Carlson, and then Steve Bannon.
- 15:51Speaker 2: And it was like speaker after speaker after speaker.
- 15:54Speaker 1: It went from this hopeful moment after Erica Kirk to, uh-oh,
- 15:59Speaker 1: what is going on on stage? And in the months
- 16:01Speaker 1: that followed, you know, this rise of the Candace Owen-Stanley
- 16:06Speaker 1: conspiracy theory and beyond, it seems like the movement is
- 16:10Speaker 1: tearing itself apart.
- 16:13Speaker 2: How can we bring people together and honor Charlie in
- 16:15Speaker 2: this one-year anniversary?
- 16:18Speaker 10: Well.
- 16:19Speaker 9: I really can't speak to the animosity that we see
- 16:24Speaker 9: amongst the big influencers and conservative pundits, but I will
- 16:30Speaker 9: say that it doesn't help. It doesn't move the needle,
- 16:33Speaker 9: especially when we're fighting against each other, when we have
- 16:36Speaker 9: a real actual enemy and real evil that we need
- 16:40Speaker 9: to contest. People are really trying to transform this nation's ideology.
- 16:45Speaker 9: into something radical, especially Islam, and the increase and growth
- 16:50Speaker 9: of that faith here in the United States and people
- 16:54Speaker 9: coming across this country illegally. So we need to do
- 16:56Speaker 9: things and turn our attention toward those. And I would
- 16:59Speaker 9: say at least extend an olive branch to say, hey, guys,
- 17:03Speaker 9: let's at least honor Charlie.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Who we always say that he was the.
- 17:08Speaker 9: Adult in the room, that he was able to bring,
- 17:11Speaker 9: I guess, different opinions and people who didn't like each
- 17:14Speaker 9: other together and push forth one agenda and one mission.
- 17:18Speaker 9: So let's do that again for his anniversary. Let's get
- 17:21Speaker 9: back on track. with preserving this country and the principles
- 17:25Speaker 9: that make this country great. That would be my request
- 17:30Speaker 9: to everybody that's paying attention.
- 17:32Speaker 2: You know, and I'm so glad you brought that up.
- 17:33Speaker 1: And then you talk about the rise of Islamo-Marxism in
- 17:36Speaker 1: the United States. And yeah, we're 25 years outside of 9-11.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I remember I was in college during 9-11. I remember
- 17:42Speaker 1: when those towers fell. I remember when we all stood
- 17:43Speaker 1: together with one voice and We demanded justice for that. And,
- 17:48Speaker 1: of course, there was a lot that happened after a
- 17:50Speaker 1: 20-year war, a lot of administration changes, some conspiracy theories.
- 17:55Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you look at
- 17:57Speaker 1: the country before 9-11, the country after 9-11, the same
- 18:00Speaker 1: enemy is still there. AND THEY DIDN'T CONQUER US ON 9-11,
- 18:04Speaker 1: BUT NOW, THROUGH ELECTIONS, YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
- 18:07Speaker 1: NEW YORK. YOU HAVE AN ISLAMO-MARXIST HIMSELF MAYOR OF NEW
- 18:12Speaker 1: YORK 25 YEARS AFTER 9-11. YOU HAVE THE GOVERNOR KATHY
- 18:14Speaker 1: HOCHUL THE OTHER DAY WEARING A THIS IS WHAT IS
- 18:22Speaker 1: GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADING 25 YEARS
- 18:24Speaker 1: AFTER 9-11 AND THEN YOU GO AND YOU TURN ATTENTION
- 18:26Speaker 1: TO CHARLIE KIRK'S LEGACY.
- 18:28Speaker 2: WHAT WAS CHARLIE KIRK DOING?
- 18:29Speaker 1: HE WAS UNIFYING THE COALITION, UNIFYING ALL OF US AROUND
- 18:33Speaker 1: NOT JUST GOD AND CHRISTIANITY BUT UNIFYING THIS COUNTRY IN
- 18:38Speaker 1: A DIRECTION THAT PRESERVED OUR LIBERTY AND YOU CANNOT JUXTAPOSE
- 18:41Speaker 1: THAT MORE THAN YOU CAN AGAINST THE ISLAMO-MARXISTS THAT ARE
- 18:44Speaker 1: TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE LEFT. remember Charlie, remember 9-11,
- 18:51Speaker 1: and use it as a rallying cry to come together
- 18:53Speaker 1: before these midterms, and in honor of Charlie, in honor
- 18:56Speaker 1: of 9-11, and all those that lost their lives, come together.
- 18:59Speaker 2: I think there's no better way to honor Charlie, right?
- 19:02Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
- 19:03Speaker 9: There's no better way to honor his legacy than doing
- 19:06Speaker 9: what he did, right? Going to the places where you
- 19:09Speaker 9: would face opposition, you wouldn't be in the echo chamber.
- 19:12Speaker 9: and trying to win souls who are on the opposite
- 19:14Speaker 9: side of the spectrum, and not just souls for the kingdom, but,
- 19:19Speaker 9: you know, souls for this nation. And so I would
- 19:23Speaker 9: just encourage people to continue to, once again, to have
- 19:26Speaker 9: the conversation, but let's rally together again, like we were before,
- 19:31Speaker 9: and put our differences aside, and come together, and just
- 19:34Speaker 9: stand up and show that we are a united front,
- 19:36Speaker 9: that we can, and we can be adults, and we
- 19:39Speaker 9: can put, you know.
- 19:42Speaker 4: Transition into.
- 19:46Speaker 9: Fighting for something that's bigger than our own petty grievances.
- 19:50Speaker 9: Right now, everyone's trying to talk about Tyler Robinson and
- 19:52Speaker 9: the cases of the Charlie Kirk murder trial, but let
- 19:57Speaker 9: the legal system handle that and stop pushing conspiracy theories
- 20:02Speaker 9: and let's really attack the things that we can put
- 20:04Speaker 9: our hands on, which is the invasion into our country.
- 20:08Speaker 9: which is the increase and rises of Islam and the
- 20:12Speaker 9: degradation of our education and how progressive are continuing to
- 20:16Speaker 9: be more and more violent.
- 20:17Speaker 4: Those are things that we can.
- 20:18Speaker 9: Actually put our hands on and we can come together
- 20:21Speaker 9: and fight again. So let's just turn our attention to
- 20:23Speaker 9: Toyota once again. Charlie Kirk was a great friend of mine.
- 20:26Speaker 9: I'm glad that he invited me to be part of
- 20:29Speaker 9: Turning Point as a contributor again. I had fun going
- 20:33Speaker 9: to the college campuses with him. And while he would
- 20:36Speaker 9: stand behind the podium and take on the barrage of questions,
- 20:40Speaker 9: I would work the crowd. I would go out and
- 20:42Speaker 9: see what their minds were, because not everybody was brave
- 20:44Speaker 9: enough to come to the mic. So I would go
- 20:46Speaker 9: find them. And so it was a really great tag
- 20:49Speaker 9: team that we had going on. And I was really
- 20:51Speaker 9: distraught when I heard. found out what happened at Utah
- 20:54Speaker 9: Valley because I was supposed to be on the next
- 20:56Speaker 9: college campus stop. So to this day, I just, I
- 21:01Speaker 9: try to live my best life. I try to live
- 21:03Speaker 9: up to some of the principles that Charlie spoke about,
- 21:06Speaker 9: you know, and that's going after things that make you stretch, right?
- 21:10Speaker 9: Take on something that you're not qualified for yet and
- 21:13Speaker 9: let it transform you into this amazing individual and use
- 21:17Speaker 9: that growth to promote faith, family, and freedom.
- 21:21Speaker 2: Well said, my friend. Thank you so much for being here.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Thank you for the work you do for Turning Point.
- 21:25Speaker 2: What an important.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Movement and the work that you guys have done before
- 21:30Speaker 1: Charlie was killed and after.
- 21:33Speaker 2: It's just so impressive. And you're doing a part to
- 21:35Speaker 2: save America, my friend.
- 21:36Speaker 1: So thank you for that. And we'll talk, I'm sure,
- 21:38Speaker 1: before next week.
- 21:40Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 21:41Speaker 4: Thank you, Dave, for having me on.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Thank you. Coming up.
- 21:44Speaker 1: A man with 34 criminal cases who told his own
- 21:48Speaker 1: neighbors he was going to go shoot people, murdered two
- 21:52Speaker 1: of them, and then shot three cops in Minneapolis.
- 21:55Speaker 2: How the system saw it coming and let it happen.
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- 23:42Speaker 1: Once again, there's blood on the streets of Minneapolis. Yesterday afternoon,
- 23:47Speaker 1: a gunman walked into an apartment building in the heart
- 23:50Speaker 1: of that city and murdered two people and then shot
- 23:54Speaker 1: three police officers who ran in to try to stop him.
- 23:58Speaker 1: And if that sentence sounds familiar, if it feels like
- 24:01Speaker 1: you've heard some version of this come out of Minneapolis before,
- 24:05Speaker 1: over and over again, THIS IS THE CITY THAT HAD
- 24:12Speaker 1: THE CRUSADE TO DEFUND ITS OWN POLICE. THIS IS THE
- 24:15Speaker 1: CITY WHERE ANTI-ICE MOBS ASSAULT FEDERAL AGENTS IN THE STREETS
- 24:19Speaker 1: AND UNDER DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP, THE VIOLENCE DOESN'T SEEM TO STOP.
- 24:25Speaker 2: HERE'S WHAT MAKES YESTERDAY SO.
- 24:31Speaker 1: He was a walking red flag, 34 criminal cases, a
- 24:34Speaker 1: history of domestic assault, a 2018 case where he reportedly
- 24:38Speaker 1: bragged that he was, quote, not afraid to shoot people.
- 24:42Speaker 2: In the face.
- 24:42Speaker 1: His own neighbors say that just days ago, he told
- 24:46Speaker 1: them out loud that he was going to shoot his
- 24:49Speaker 1: ex-girlfriend and the people who managed his building. He'd been
- 24:52Speaker 1: seen roaming the halls with a gun. They were already
- 24:55Speaker 1: trying to evict him for it. So everyone knew this
- 24:59Speaker 1: man was a ticking time bomb. And the system these
- 25:03Speaker 1: Democrats in that state built, well, they scheduled him a
- 25:06Speaker 1: civil eviction hearing for September 11th, a court date nine
- 25:10Speaker 1: days out for a man openly promising to murder people.
- 25:14Speaker 1: He didn't wait nine days either. And now two of
- 25:17Speaker 1: his neighbors are dead. Three officers are in the hospital.
- 25:22Speaker 2: So you have to ask.
- 25:23Speaker 1: While a known killer walked free in their city, what
- 25:26Speaker 1: exactly were Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Fry so busy with?
- 25:31Speaker 1: Because apparently it wasn't public safety. Governor Walz has poured
- 25:34Speaker 1: his energy into building one of the most aggressive gun
- 25:38Speaker 1: control regimes in the country. Red flag laws, universal background checks,
- 25:42Speaker 1: the whole progressive wish list. And the one man in
- 25:44Speaker 1: Minneapolis who was screaming to anyone who would listen that
- 25:47Speaker 1: he wanted to shoot people slipped right through every bit
- 25:50Speaker 1: of it. These men all the time in the world
- 25:56Speaker 1: to chase every fashionable progressive cause on the menu, but
- 26:00Speaker 1: they can't seem to find time to keep a man
- 26:03Speaker 1: with 34 cases and a stated plan of murdering people
- 26:06Speaker 1: off the streets.
- 26:09Speaker 2: That's not a coincidence. It's a choice. We see it
- 26:12Speaker 2: too often in these blue cities. Two dead neighbors, three
- 26:16Speaker 2: wounded officers. That is the human cost of it.
- 26:20Speaker 1: MY NEXT GUEST SPENT 34 YEARS WEARING A BADGE AND
- 26:22Speaker 1: RUNS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PICKS UP THE PIECES WHEN OFFICERS
- 26:25Speaker 1: GET SHOT DOING THEIR JOB. IT'S BEEN SOUNDING THE ALARM
- 26:28Speaker 1: ABOUT THE WAR ON COPS IN THIS VERY CITY. JOINING
- 26:31Speaker 1: ME NOW, LIEUTENANT RANDY SUTTON, RETIRED POLICE LIEUTENANT AND FOUNDER
- 26:33Speaker 1: OF THE WOUNDED BLUE.
- 26:35Speaker 2: LIEUTENANT, WELCOME BACK TO DAVID POLITIC PRIME TIME.
- 26:37Speaker 1: IT'S SO AGGRAVATING, SO AGGRAVATING THAT WE HEAR THESE STORIES
- 26:41Speaker 1: TIME AND TIME AGAIN OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWN
- 26:43Speaker 1: THREATS TO SOCIETY IN THESE BLUE STATES JUST ROAMING FREELY
- 26:46Speaker 1: ON THE STREETS UNTIL SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS.
- 26:50Speaker 5: Well, it's going to get worse because I'm going to
- 26:52Speaker 5: tell you what I just discovered in the last half hour.
- 26:57Speaker 5: Not only did he threaten people, not only did he
- 27:01Speaker 5: have a criminal record, but because of the laws put
- 27:04Speaker 5: into place by Walsh and the other insane liberal legislators,
- 27:11Speaker 5: they gave him a permit to.
- 27:12Speaker 4: Carry a gun.
- 27:13Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
- 27:15Speaker 4: You heard that right.
- 27:16Speaker 5: What they did, they passed a law called what they
- 27:20Speaker 5: euphemistically called the Clean Slate Law.
- 27:23Speaker 4: Now, what does that mean?
- 27:25Speaker 5: That means that they wiped out the criminal records of
- 27:27Speaker 5: approximately 500,000 offenders, which then gave them the right to
- 27:35Speaker 5: go back and apply for a gun permit, which this
- 27:38Speaker 5: guy did. And of course, it was granted because he
- 27:42Speaker 5: didn't have a criminal record anymore. Because it was sealed
- 27:46Speaker 5: thanks to Governor Tim Walz and the other liberal maniacs
- 27:52Speaker 5: in the state legislature. So that is the added perspective
- 27:57Speaker 5: of this, which I literally just found out.
- 28:00Speaker 1: That is shocking and unbelievable and at the same time
- 28:04Speaker 1: completely believable in a state like Minnesota.
- 28:08Speaker 2: How does a guy like that get a gun?
- 28:10Speaker 1: And with all the gun restrictions they have, the red
- 28:12Speaker 1: flag laws and all that such, when he was threatening
- 28:15Speaker 1: to kill people, why didn't anybody go and check on him?
- 28:18Speaker 1: I mean, they literally just didn't care? I don't understand this.
- 28:23Speaker 4: That's because there's no explanation for it.
- 28:25Speaker 5: Well, what it shows is a completely broken criminal justice system. Now,
- 28:31Speaker 5: how did it break? Well, it was destroyed from within
- 28:35Speaker 5: by the liberal left. They have taken what was once
- 28:40Speaker 5: a proud police department, an effective police department, destroyed them.
- 28:45Speaker 5: They're down, the Minneapolis Police Department is down probably seven,
- 28:50Speaker 5: or I'm sorry, down about 30% of their personnel.
- 28:52Speaker 7: Wow.
- 28:56Speaker 5: They literally can't effectively answer their 911 calls. And then
- 29:00Speaker 5: when I see Tim Walz trot himself out in front
- 29:04Speaker 5: of the cameras and claim to be a defender of
- 29:08Speaker 5: the criminal justice system and supporting law enforcement, it makes
- 29:13Speaker 5: me nauseous to watch.
- 29:16Speaker 2: It makes America nauseous.
- 29:18Speaker 1: And when we heard about what happened yesterday, and then
- 29:19Speaker 1: you ask how, how does this happen?
- 29:22Speaker 2: And this is how it happens. And it keeps happening
- 29:24Speaker 2: in these same places.
- 29:26Speaker 1: THEY ARE ALWAYS SO QUICK TO CALL FOR GUN CONTROL
- 29:30Speaker 1: AND TALK ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AND FIND WHATEVER LIBERAL, YOU KNOW,
- 29:33Speaker 1: WISHLESS CAUSE OF THE DAY THEY CAN COME UP WITH,
- 29:36Speaker 1: YET THEY PROVIDE THE ENVIRONMENTS FOR ALL OF THIS VIOLENCE
- 29:40Speaker 1: TO OCCUR, WHETHER IT'S THE ICE PROTESTS AND THEN THE
- 29:42Speaker 1: GOVERNOR GOING AND ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ATTACK FEDERAL AGENTS, AND
- 29:45Speaker 1: THEN WHEN FEDERAL AGENTS DEFEND THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE GET KILLED
- 29:47Speaker 1: OR INJURED, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU SEE, THIS ISN'T OUR FAULT.
- 29:50Speaker 1: THIS IS TIME AND TIME AGAIN KEEPS HAPPENING. And now
- 29:53Speaker 1: we have three officers shot, two people dead. Now, we
- 29:57Speaker 1: spoke earlier. You said two of those officers are out
- 29:59Speaker 1: of the hospital. The other officer is in critical condition,
- 30:02Speaker 1: being treated, but hopefully expected to survive. It's still three
- 30:06Speaker 1: officers that shouldn't have been shot and two people that
- 30:07Speaker 1: shouldn't have been killed, right?
- 30:09Speaker 4: Well, let me correct you.
- 30:10Speaker 5: There were three officers that were injured. Two of them
- 30:12Speaker 5: were shot. The other one was hurt in an accident.
- 30:16Speaker 5: So two officers were actually shot. One was hit in
- 30:19Speaker 5: the leg and the other was hit in the abdomen.
- 30:21Speaker 5: And it's only for the grace of God that that
- 30:23Speaker 5: officer is still alive. So we have two officers. We
- 30:26Speaker 5: have innocent civilians that were killed. And this was preventable.
- 30:32Speaker 5: This was preventable. Not only was this guy legally allowed
- 30:37Speaker 5: to have a firearm, but he was given a gun
- 30:41Speaker 5: permit to carry concealed.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
- 30:46Speaker 4: With 35 arrests.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
- 30:51Speaker 4: And they talk about gun control. Are you out of
- 30:54Speaker 4: your mind?
- 30:55Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he was running around telling everybody he
- 30:56Speaker 1: was going to kill people, and they did nothing.
- 30:58Speaker 2: They go, yeah, we'll see you in September. Take care.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Good luck.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Now, your organization, before we go, I want to highlight
- 31:04Speaker 1: your organization. You do a lot of great work to
- 31:06Speaker 1: help officers get like these who are injured in the
- 31:08Speaker 1: line of duty.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Talk about your organization and where people can go to help.
- 31:12Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 31:12Speaker 5: TheWoundedBlue.org is our organization. We are a nationwide charity that's
- 31:18Speaker 5: helped more than 17,000 injured officers in the last eight years.
- 31:22Speaker 5: We're doing amazing work. In fact, I am right now
- 31:25Speaker 5: visiting in Washington, D.C., with two of our injured officers
- 31:30Speaker 5: who we are getting medical assistance for. We're doing amazing work.
- 31:34Speaker 5: I ask people to go to TheWoundedBlue.org, see who we are,
- 31:37Speaker 5: see what we do. Give what you can as we
- 31:40Speaker 5: are a charity and you're an officer who's struggling either
- 31:44Speaker 5: physically or emotionally.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Reach out to us.
- 31:46Speaker 5: Never forgotten.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Never alone. And thank you so much for being here.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Thank you for your service and thank you for all
- 31:51Speaker 1: the work you do to our brave men and women
- 31:54Speaker 1: in law enforcement. Look forward to talking again real soon,
- 31:56Speaker 1: hopefully on more pleasant circumstances.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 32:02Speaker 1: When we come back, Iran fires missiles at Kuwait and
- 32:08Speaker 1: at our troops, and President Trump warns the regime will
- 32:11Speaker 1: be totally wiped out. The very latest from the war
- 32:16Speaker 1: with a retired Green Beret, and later, a former prisoner
- 32:19Speaker 1: of war, the Navy SEAL who helped rescue her, and
- 32:22Speaker 1: a group of wounded warriors together in the Alaska wild.
- 32:26Speaker 2: A story you won't want to miss. That's all still
- 32:29Speaker 2: to come. Don't go anywhere.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Labor Day night, a David Pollack primetime special event, the
- 32:41Speaker 1: weather over your head. Yes, it's being modified by state governments,
- 32:45Speaker 1: by private companies, and even by China on a scale
- 32:48Speaker 1: of half a continent.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Who's doing it? What's in the clouds?
- 32:51Speaker 1: And did a cloud seeding company cause the Texas floods?
- 32:56Speaker 1: I go inside Rainmaker and get the answers on camera.
- 33:00Speaker 1: The Rainmakers, Monday, September 7th, 10 Eastern, 7 Pacific, only
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- 33:43Speaker 2: Over to Iran.
- 33:44Speaker 1: The Iranian regime is desperately lashing out at its neighbors again,
- 33:47Speaker 1: firing ballistic missiles and drones at Kuwait and forces stationed
- 33:52Speaker 1: in Jordan, Bahrain, northern Iraq, just about everywhere. They're shooting
- 33:56Speaker 1: their missiles everywhere. Defense systems are doing their job in
- 33:59Speaker 1: intercepting those missiles. President Trump has made it clear... THAT'S
- 34:03Speaker 1: WHAT THE REGIME IS DOING HERE. IT'S TELLING THEM THAT
- 34:04Speaker 1: IF BASICALLY THEY DON'T STOP, IRAN IN HIS WORDS WILL
- 34:06Speaker 1: BE TOTALLY WIPED OUT AS A COUNTRY. NO MATTER HOW
- 34:10Speaker 1: MANY MISSILES THEY RUN FIRES INTO THE DESERT.
- 34:12Speaker 2: THE PLAN ISN'T WORKING. THE ENTIRE POINT OF.
- 34:15Speaker 1: EVERYTHING THE REGIME IS DOING HERE IS TO BASICALLY TRY
- 34:18Speaker 1: TO CHOKE OFF THE WORLD'S OIL AND RAISE ON MONDAY,
- 34:24Speaker 1: ACCORDING TO THE PRESIDENT'S ENERGY SECRETARY, MORE THAN 17 MILLION
- 34:28Speaker 1: BARRELS MOVED THROUGH THE STRAIGHT-OF-WAR MOVES, THE SINGLE HIGHEST TOTAL
- 34:31Speaker 1: OF THIS ENTIRE WAR, EVERY LAST BARREL OF IT, UNDER
- 34:33Speaker 1: THE PROTECTION OF THE GOOD OLD UNITED STATES MILITARY BEFORE
- 34:37Speaker 1: THE WAR STARTED.
- 34:38Speaker 2: We ran about 20 million barrels a day.
- 34:40Speaker 1: So we're pretty close to pre-war levels at this point.
- 34:43Speaker 1: And that's now with Iran throwing everything it has left
- 34:46Speaker 1: at that waterway.
- 34:47Speaker 2: Oil is moving. Iran can't stop it. But it's not painless.
- 34:52Speaker 1: The fear of the war has made oil creep up.
- 34:55Speaker 1: for the price of the barrel, close to 95 bucks
- 34:57Speaker 1: or something. And of course, that's going to make the
- 34:59Speaker 1: prices go up at the pump temporarily. But in the
- 35:02Speaker 1: United States, they're keeping the oil moving. Record wartime pace. Iran, well,
- 35:09Speaker 1: their missiles are getting swatted out of the sky. Kuwait
- 35:12Speaker 1: is intercepting the missiles. No service members injured, despite what
- 35:17Speaker 1: the regime is pretending. They are on the ropes and
- 35:20Speaker 1: they know it. And President Trump says he doesn't believe
- 35:23Speaker 1: this fight has much longer to run. And to break
- 35:25Speaker 1: down where this goes from here, I'm honored to welcome
- 35:28Speaker 1: John Paluska. He's a Green Beret founding board member of
- 35:31Speaker 1: the Special Operations Foundation.
- 35:33Speaker 2: John, welcome to the show.
- 35:35Speaker 1: You've been injured by Iranian IEDs. A lot of people
- 35:39Speaker 1: are suggesting that we have no reason to be in
- 35:41Speaker 1: this war. They're looking at gas prices. They're looking at
- 35:43Speaker 1: the midterms. I've always argued that there are a lot
- 35:46Speaker 1: of injured service members because of Iran. And Iran is
- 35:49Speaker 1: really nobody's friend. And the weaker in Iran is, the less.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Terrorists or support.
- 35:54Speaker 1: That's good for America. What do you think about where
- 35:57Speaker 1: we are with this conflict? Iran, being in the war
- 36:00Speaker 1: with Iran and where you think this goes from here?
- 36:03Speaker 11: Yeah, first I would say, you know, when we say,
- 36:06Speaker 11: you know, we're not friends with Iran, the Iranian people,
- 36:09Speaker 11: you know, the Persian people, we certainly have their back
- 36:11Speaker 11: and we want to see them, you know, come out
- 36:14Speaker 11: of this on top. You mentioned the shrapnel, you know, ironically,
- 36:18Speaker 11: yesterday I was with the UN Security Council from, along
- 36:23Speaker 11: with Ambassador Waltz, giving them a tour of the 9-11
- 36:25Speaker 11: Memorial Museum into one of these special exhibits that's going
- 36:29Speaker 11: to be showcasing and it actually has some of the
- 36:32Speaker 11: Iranian shrapnel that came out of my leg. And this
- 36:36Speaker 11: showcases basically the volunteers, people that have committed to serving
- 36:40Speaker 11: post 9-11. And I think, for me, ground zero, the
- 36:44Speaker 11: wars that have followed, the conflict with Iran, this really
- 36:49Speaker 11: points to yesterday. And we want to put it behind glass.
- 36:52Speaker 11: We don't want it to be in front of us.
- 36:55Speaker 11: And so, We heard from Vance, you know, Vice President
- 36:59Speaker 11: Vance talked this afternoon. And what I found really interesting,
- 37:03Speaker 11: what he was saying or actually what he was not
- 37:06Speaker 11: saying and what he was not answering were the questions about,
- 37:09Speaker 11: you know, tactically, strategically from a military advantage. Are we considering,
- 37:14Speaker 11: you know, certain objectives? And, you know, what I took
- 37:17Speaker 11: away was the questions that he didn't answer. You know,
- 37:20Speaker 11: he was reserving them because, you know, this is this
- 37:22Speaker 11: is a long game. We're going to we're going to
- 37:25Speaker 11: win it.
- 37:26Speaker 4: Tactically, we have.
- 37:27Speaker 11: Strategically, probably not there yet. And I think when you
- 37:30Speaker 11: look at the cost of the pump, I mean, what's
- 37:32Speaker 11: it up, maybe a dollar a gallon from last year?
- 37:36Speaker 11: That's really the price of national security freedom that we
- 37:40Speaker 11: have to pay right now. So, to me, who's been
- 37:44Speaker 11: wounded and seen what Iran can do, the influences globally,
- 37:49Speaker 11: and speaking with some of the members from the U.N.
- 37:51Speaker 11: Security Council yesterday, yeah, that's where I stand.
- 37:55Speaker 2: So I agree with you completely.
- 37:57Speaker 1: And Iran has been attacking us since the late 1970s.
- 38:02Speaker 1: This has been a war that we didn't start when
- 38:04Speaker 1: President Trump said no new wars.
- 38:05Speaker 2: He didn't start a new war. He's ending an old one.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Iran continues to.
- 38:09Speaker 1: Drag allies and foes alike in the region into wars
- 38:14Speaker 1: that inevitably keep dragging us into it in our interest.
- 38:17Speaker 1: This is really the last piece of the puzzle to
- 38:19Speaker 1: not only stabilizing the energy supply globally, but to also
- 38:23Speaker 1: put to bed a long-term foe of a lot of people,
- 38:26Speaker 1: and to stop the state-sponsored support of terror, which injured
- 38:30Speaker 1: a lot of soldiers and a lot of innocent people everywhere.
- 38:32Speaker 1: So how— Iran is on the ropes. I believe they are economically, militarily.
- 38:37Speaker 1: They're trying to affect gas prices over the midterms. This
- 38:39Speaker 1: historic deal with Venezuela really puts pressure on them, because
- 38:43Speaker 1: the oil markets are opening up, and we're not even
- 38:44Speaker 1: going to need to destroy the Formos anymore. So how
- 38:46Speaker 1: much fight do they have left in them? I know
- 38:48Speaker 1: JD Vance wouldn't answer it today. They're like, how much
- 38:50Speaker 1: longer are we going to fight? That's a strategic and
- 38:52Speaker 1: tactical decision. He's not going to tell the press. But
- 38:54Speaker 1: how much fight do the Iranians have left in them?
- 38:56Speaker 1: They can't have much left, right?
- 38:59Speaker 11: Yeah, just a few days ago, CENTCOM said, I think
- 39:02Speaker 11: it was their September 1st briefing, they basically depicted the
- 39:06Speaker 11: battlefield and all of the advanced air defenses and radars
- 39:11Speaker 11: that they've been building. You know, they took them out
- 39:14Speaker 11: just prior to completion. I mean, you can imagine the
- 39:16Speaker 11: frustration from the RGC, you know, when they're trying to,
- 39:20Speaker 11: you know, think they have things just back under control.
- 39:23Speaker 11: They're not. And, from an economic standpoint, any time there's
- 39:29Speaker 11: an inflationary pressure or a world event that takes effect globally, generally,
- 39:36Speaker 11: these things take time to build that long-term result. And
- 39:41Speaker 11: we're going to be hitting six months, nine months, a
- 39:44Speaker 11: year in, I'm not saying that this is how long
- 39:47Speaker 11: it's going to take to resolve, but they're seeing basically
- 39:51Speaker 11: the cracks right now before the people are going to uproar.
- 39:56Speaker 11: So from our disciplined tactical approach of the way that
- 40:00Speaker 11: our air forces have basically been targeting, I think there's
- 40:05Speaker 11: been a lot of successes.
- 40:07Speaker 2: John, thank you so much for your take on this.
- 40:08Speaker 2: Thank you for your service. Volunteered at 9-11.
- 40:11Speaker 1: We have the big anniversary coming up next week. You
- 40:15Speaker 1: fought for this country as a Green Beret, were wounded
- 40:17Speaker 1: in action, and now you're getting a master's degree, an
- 40:20Speaker 1: MBA from Columbia. You're a brilliant man and you're a hero.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here on the show
- 40:24Speaker 1: and thank you for your take.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Look forward to having you back.
- 40:27Speaker 11: Thank you. Take care, David.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Still ahead, after an hour of hard news, a story
- 40:33Speaker 1: to restore your faith, wounded veterans healing in the Alaskan frontier,
- 40:39Speaker 1: and the extraordinary guests standing with them this week.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Stick around.
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- 42:26Speaker 1: We end tonight on a positive story. Right now in
- 42:30Speaker 1: the wilds of Southeast Alaska, a group of America's wounded warriors,
- 42:35Speaker 1: men and women, who came home from war carrying the
- 42:37Speaker 1: kind of scars you can't see. Well, they're being welcomed
- 42:41Speaker 1: into the frontier by their fellow veterans. There's no therapy office,
- 42:44Speaker 1: no months-long waiting list at the VA. Just the mountains,
- 42:48Speaker 1: the water, the salmon runs. And the one thing that
- 42:51Speaker 1: has pulled more veterans back from the edge than any
- 42:53Speaker 1: pill ever prescribed could. The brotherhood of people who have
- 42:57Speaker 1: been exactly where they've been.
- 42:59Speaker 2: It's called the Alaska Adventure Project.
- 43:02Speaker 1: And its whole mission is to take on the wounds
- 43:05Speaker 1: this country has been far too slow to treat. The PTSD,
- 43:09Speaker 1: the traumatic brain injuries, the invisible weight so many of
- 43:13Speaker 1: our veterans carry home.
- 43:14Speaker 2: And they're left to carry it alone.
- 43:15Speaker 1: This organization uses the sheer overwhelming beauty of Alaska veterans
- 43:19Speaker 1: and the unbreakable bond between those who have served to
- 43:22Speaker 1: remind these.
- 43:23Speaker 2: Heroes that they're not forgotten and they're not alone. One
- 43:26Speaker 2: veteran who.
- 43:27Speaker 1: Went on a trip, put it about as simply as
- 43:29Speaker 1: you can, says from the moment he arrived, he said
- 43:32Speaker 1: he felt like he was home.
- 43:35Speaker 2: And here's the part I love most about it.
- 43:37Speaker 1: The man who built this thing, he's actually a United
- 43:40Speaker 1: States Marine, a combat veteran who served in this country's
- 43:43Speaker 1: longest war, came home and decided his mission wasn't over.
- 43:46Speaker 1: He decided to spend his life bringing his brothers and
- 43:48Speaker 1: sisters in arms back to life. This week, he's leading
- 43:51Speaker 1: another group through a 10-day adventure in the last frontier.
- 43:55Speaker 1: He joins me now along with some of his friends
- 43:56Speaker 1: to tell us all about it, Alaska Venture Project. Welcome
- 44:01Speaker 1: to the show, Billy Bolton, Darren Isham, and Will Pichelli.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Steve Turner, I hope I'm saying all your guys' name
- 44:08Speaker 1: right so that everyone's going to be there.
- 44:09Speaker 2: They put them all here.
- 44:12Speaker 6: Close enough, brother, close enough. Hey, thank you so much
- 44:16Speaker 6: for having us on this show. And, yeah, to my.
- 44:19Speaker 10: Left over here is one of our past recipients and
- 44:22Speaker 10: now staff member, United States Marine Corps, helicopter pilot, Mr.
- 44:27Speaker 6: Steve Turner. Steve, I'll let you introduce yourself.
- 44:30Speaker 13: Thank you again for having us. I served 25 years
- 44:33Speaker 13: in the Marine Corps and saw combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.
- 44:37Speaker 6: And much like a lot of.
- 44:38Speaker 13: Veterans, unfortunately, I had buried 17 friends to suicide and
- 44:43Speaker 13: was introduced to the Alaska Venture Project and immediately had
- 44:46Speaker 13: my life turned around. A very pivotal year last year
- 44:49Speaker 13: as a recipient. And after what they've done for me
- 44:52Speaker 13: and my family, I was absolutely honored to come back
- 44:55Speaker 13: to staff so we can get more veterans up here
- 44:57Speaker 13: to fight the enemy that we can't see, the PTSD
- 44:59Speaker 13: and traumatic brain injury battle.
- 45:01Speaker 6: And that's what we're here to do.
- 45:03Speaker 1: I love what you guys are doing out there. And look,
- 45:06Speaker 1: you know, for the audience, I was in the airport yesterday.
- 45:09Speaker 1: I seen you guys getting ready for this trip and
- 45:12Speaker 1: I seen you in those uniforms and I'm like, they
- 45:14Speaker 1: look like they're doing something cool. And because I do television,
- 45:18Speaker 1: I always ask if I see somebody doing something cool.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing? Because it might be a story.
- 45:22Speaker 1: And when I heard your story and your mission and
- 45:24Speaker 1: what you were going to do, I immediately knew that
- 45:26Speaker 1: I had.
- 45:26Speaker 2: To share this with the audience.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Can you talk about this program, what it's done for
- 45:30Speaker 1: people and what you're doing over the next 10 days?
- 45:33Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 45:34Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I'll just kind of start with how it
- 45:36Speaker 10: all came about, right? So I was in the Marine.
- 45:40Speaker 6: Corps, as you stated before. I was an infantry.
- 45:43Speaker 10: Machine gunner that definitely went on some tricky deployments during.
- 45:48Speaker 6: My time in.
- 45:49Speaker 10: And when I got out of the Marine Corps and,
- 45:52Speaker 10: you know, I went back to Southern California and all
- 45:54Speaker 10: just like the hustle bustle of.
- 45:56Speaker 6: That, I don't know if I was dealing with it
- 46:00Speaker 6: the right way, right?
- 46:01Speaker 10: It was.
- 46:02Speaker 6: It was just a lot of chaos.
- 46:03Speaker 10: That I wasn't I wasn't able to sift through, you know, mentally.
- 46:08Speaker 10: And so I got the opportunity to come home. I'm
- 46:10Speaker 10: from Ketchikan, Alaska. I got the opportunity to come home
- 46:13Speaker 10: and go fishing commercially, get out there on the ocean. And,
- 46:18Speaker 10: you know, I finally felt like I could breathe and
- 46:21Speaker 10: I could, you know, organize my thoughts.
- 46:24Speaker 6: I could feel things that I hadn't felt in a
- 46:25Speaker 6: long time.
- 46:26Speaker 10: And when I came back, I got to meet with
- 46:29Speaker 10: Darren Isham and Wilpik Hell over here. and a few
- 46:32Speaker 10: others in the town that I live in Temecula. And
- 46:35Speaker 10: I told them about my time and they were all
- 46:39Speaker 10: new friends to me, right? I just, that was another
- 46:41Speaker 10: like amazing aspect as I was able to like open up.
- 46:44Speaker 6: To new people in my life.
- 46:46Speaker 10: And, you know, as soon as I told them about
- 46:50Speaker 10: my experience and that I wanted to like bottle that
- 46:53Speaker 10: feeling up and sell it, if I could, the idea
- 46:57Speaker 10: for Alaska Adventure Project was born. So that year, 10
- 47:01Speaker 10: years ago, today, we did an exploratory trip and we
- 47:05Speaker 10: came up here to see how the community would receive us.
- 47:08Speaker 6: And it's just that this was a possible thing. And overwhelmingly,
- 47:12Speaker 6: it was responded with yes. Yes, we can. Yes, we will.
- 47:17Speaker 10: And that is held true since day one. So we
- 47:21Speaker 10: have a lot of local support out here that make
- 47:23Speaker 10: this possible. And plus just being from Ketchikan and being
- 47:28Speaker 10: able to come home, our community just welcomes us with
- 47:32Speaker 10: open arms.
- 47:33Speaker 6: So it's really good.
- 47:34Speaker 4: And then, you know, the whole aim.
- 47:36Speaker 10: For this program was, you know, there's an epidemic of
- 47:41Speaker 10: veteran suicide, right?
- 47:43Speaker 6: I lost more of my platoon mates.
- 47:46Speaker 10: To suicide that I did in combat, and I went
- 47:48Speaker 10: on three combat deployments. So if that gives you a
- 47:51Speaker 10: scope of what me personally was dealing with, and then
- 47:54Speaker 10: you take a look around, and it's like every one
- 47:56Speaker 10: of us is having to deal with this, and we
- 48:01Speaker 10: deal with it alone. But that's what Alaska Adventure Project
- 48:04Speaker 10: is for, is we create an environment up here where
- 48:07Speaker 10: we can get together, we can create a new community
- 48:09Speaker 10: of people, we can talk about these things, and we
- 48:12Speaker 10: can make, you know, we can turn war stories into
- 48:15Speaker 10: fishing stories.
- 48:17Speaker 4: Wow.
- 48:18Speaker 2: What an amazing organization.
- 48:20Speaker 1: I feel so fortunate to have run into you in
- 48:23Speaker 1: that airport line. And it's so important for vets to
- 48:26Speaker 1: help each other out like this because, like you mentioned,
- 48:29Speaker 1: so many suffer in silence. And I've had the opportunity
- 48:32Speaker 1: over the years to talk to so many groups similar
- 48:34Speaker 1: to yours where they get people together.
- 48:36Speaker 2: There's a Navy SEAL group. They swim and run.
- 48:39Speaker 1: And, you know, there's all these different things where people
- 48:42Speaker 1: get together and really support each other. And it's really
- 48:44Speaker 1: you guys leaning on each other that makes the experience bearable.
- 48:49Speaker 1: And so I love highlighting what you guys are doing now.
- 48:51Speaker 1: What's going on this week? If people want to know
- 48:54Speaker 1: what you guys are up to, what's going to happen
- 48:56Speaker 1: this week?
- 48:56Speaker 2: What do they have to look forward to?
- 48:58Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're so excited. This is going to be
- 49:00Speaker 6: a really excellent week.
- 49:01Speaker 10: So I'll showcase the group that we have coming up.
- 49:05Speaker 10: And this has kind of been a dream of mine.
- 49:07Speaker 10: So we've got air support and ground troops coming together
- 49:11Speaker 10: in one. And the What makes that special is that
- 49:16Speaker 10: anytime air support and ground troops anytime they come together,
- 49:21Speaker 10: especially downrange, it's always a chaotic situation.
- 49:25Speaker 6: It's always, you know, an emergency situation.
- 49:29Speaker 10: And so there's very little time for us to bond
- 49:32Speaker 10: together outside of that. So we're able to create that
- 49:37Speaker 10: experience for these guys this year.
- 49:39Speaker 6: We have Mr.
- 49:40Speaker 10: Jim Toth, he flew for Marine One back during the
- 49:46Speaker 10: Bush administration, I believe.
- 49:48Speaker 6: We have Mark Banskyke, who was your.
- 49:54Speaker 4: Correct.
- 49:54Speaker 13: Mark Banskyke, retired Colonel Marine, Cobra pilot. He was my
- 49:58Speaker 13: commanding officer for years. We served together and flew together.
- 50:01Speaker 13: He's going to be a wonderful addition this year for
- 50:03Speaker 13: this group. Just like Billy was mentioning, sometimes you just
- 50:06Speaker 13: can't reconnect after the conflict is over, but... Being on
- 50:09Speaker 13: the deck under the bald eagles with the water and
- 50:12Speaker 13: the fish jumping in the background, and you can talk
- 50:14Speaker 13: about where you were serving, what you did, and who
- 50:16Speaker 13: you were with. I'll tell you, there's a lot of
- 50:18Speaker 13: conversations that stumble upon, oh my gosh, we were in
- 50:21Speaker 13: the same area of operations. You were helping me above.
- 50:25Speaker 13: And you're the reason why I came home. And that's
- 50:27Speaker 13: what matters. No clinical environment. There's no clipboards. There's no
- 50:31Speaker 13: fluorescent lights. It's sitting on a deck under a bonfire
- 50:35Speaker 13: around it and connecting on a level that is inexplicable and,
- 50:39Speaker 13: dare I say, something you just can't find unless you're
- 50:42Speaker 13: right here.
- 50:44Speaker 1: So if there's people watching and they say, wow, this
- 50:47Speaker 1: is something I needed in my life, where can they go?
- 50:51Speaker 1: And if there's people watching that just want to support
- 50:53Speaker 1: your organization, where can they go?
- 50:56Speaker 6: Right on. Well, so our website is www.alaskadventureproject.org.
- 51:02Speaker 10: There is a page in there where they can go
- 51:04Speaker 10: and they can donate and where they can fill out.
- 51:05Speaker 6: An application, which will be received and reviewed.
- 51:10Speaker 10: Typically how we like to run things is we call
- 51:14Speaker 10: it the pay it forward method, right? So if you
- 51:16Speaker 10: come on the trip, And you have someone that's close
- 51:20Speaker 10: to you that you know might be struggling with some
- 51:22Speaker 10: of these invisible wounds, you can nominate them. And then we,
- 51:26Speaker 10: so we'll base our selection process off of those nominations
- 51:30Speaker 10: first and then we'll go to the application process.
- 51:33Speaker 6: My phone number's on there. I'm pretty much an.
- 51:35Speaker 10: Open book, open door policy over here. So if someone
- 51:39Speaker 10: needs to reach out to me, they most definitely can
- 51:41Speaker 10: do that.
- 51:43Speaker 6: Any of us. That's what we promote, man. We just
- 51:48Speaker 6: want people to.
- 51:50Speaker 10: Get out of their funk and And, you know, come
- 51:53Speaker 10: out here to Alaska and enjoy the special sauce that
- 51:56Speaker 10: we have out here. But to go back to your
- 51:59Speaker 10: earlier question, what we got going on this week, we're
- 52:01Speaker 10: going to start things off with a fishing trip. The
- 52:04Speaker 10: guys are going to come out first thing Saturday morning,
- 52:07Speaker 10: 530 a.m. We're going to hit the water and then
- 52:10Speaker 10: we're going to get out there all day on the boats.
- 52:12Speaker 10: And these guys get to catch, you know, five different
- 52:15Speaker 10: species of salmon.
- 52:16Speaker 4: Halibut, cod.
- 52:18Speaker 6: It's all out there for the takings. Halibut seems to
- 52:21Speaker 6: be one of the more popular ones. And then we
- 52:25Speaker 6: bring them back.
- 52:26Speaker 10: They get to process the fish and then we ship
- 52:28Speaker 10: all that fish home to them. So when they get home,
- 52:30Speaker 10: there's a little gift waiting for them. you know, wives
- 52:33Speaker 10: and spouses can enjoy in some of their hard work
- 52:37Speaker 10: and labor, which.
- 52:39Speaker 6: Always tends to be pretty nice.
- 52:40Speaker 10: And then we take the guys ziplining. There's a canopy
- 52:44Speaker 10: zipline tour out here. And then we've got, like I said,
- 52:47Speaker 10: pilots coming out this year. So we're going to take
- 52:49Speaker 10: them up in the float planes and go to the
- 52:52Speaker 10: Misty Fjords, which is sort of like a Lord of
- 52:56Speaker 10: the Rings space. Yeah, and that's a good picture of
- 52:59Speaker 10: one of the planes that we take out. So, yeah,
- 53:01Speaker 10: I mean, it's a jam-packed week, man. We try and
- 53:03Speaker 10: fill it with some bonfires and some downtime if we can, but.
- 53:07Speaker 6: We like to keep everyone pretty active if at all possible.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like it's going to be a spectacular trip.
- 53:14Speaker 1: Thank you for your service, your sacrifice, and for continuing
- 53:17Speaker 1: to serve in your personal capacity and help out other veterans.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Honored to meet you. Good luck to you. I hope
- 53:22Speaker 2: everybody goes.
- 53:23Speaker 1: Checks out Alaska Adventure Project and helps out any way
- 53:26Speaker 1: they can. And you guys have a wonderful trip and
- 53:28Speaker 1: we'll run into each other randomly at some other airport somewhere.
- 53:31Speaker 2: I'm sure.
- 53:32Speaker 6: Thank you, sir.
- 53:34Speaker 4: Look forward to it.
- 53:35Speaker 6: Thank you again.
- 53:36Speaker 2: Thank you. It's an honor. Thank you. That's our show
- 53:39Speaker 2: for tonight.
- 53:40Speaker 1: Join us tomorrow as we continue to watch for a
- 53:43Speaker 1: verdict in the Lindsay Clancy case.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Will we have one?
- 53:47Speaker 1: Plus, we're going to have a new recurring technology segment tomorrow.
- 53:50Speaker 1: We're diving deep into a computer brain interface approved in China.
- 53:55Speaker 2: Seriously. You're not going to want to miss it.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Stay in touch with us on social media, David Pollak
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