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Chuck in the Morning 8-5 Hour 1: How was Hard Knocks? Mariners Morning After and the Darnold disrespect. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some football.
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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks started last night, Hard Knocks on HBO. First
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Speaker 2: time ever the Seahawks have been featured on Hard Knocks
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Speaker 2: and and so we.
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Speaker 1: Got the full episode last night. Hopefully you watched it.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully you're right there with us as we get set
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Speaker 2: to talk about it here this morning. Not to lead
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Speaker 2: you anywhere, Ashley, because I do want to just get
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Speaker 2: your first gut reaction to it, but I'll just get
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Speaker 2: the conversation started by saying, I don't think it's as
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Speaker 2: gritty as it used to be. I don't. I think
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Speaker 2: it is really like tightly managed by both organization and
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Speaker 2: league to make sure you're not revealing too much. I
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Speaker 2: don't think it's quite the show that it used to be,
2:44
Speaker 2: which is why I stopped watching it in the first place,
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Speaker 2: because it just kept drifting further and further away from
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Speaker 2: the strike zone in my opinion, and I think that
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Speaker 2: applied to last night. But when it's your team that
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Speaker 2: you follow from your town and they're the Super Bowl champions, yeah,
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Speaker 2: you soaked up every bit of the sauce with a
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Speaker 2: biscuit last night. And it was great to see some
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Speaker 2: behind the scene things that even beat writers have not
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Speaker 2: had access to at this camp, and then to also
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Speaker 2: get to know some of the personalities and yeah, we
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Speaker 2: knew some of the reputations of these players, but to
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Speaker 2: see it on display was very fascinating. To get examples
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Speaker 2: of why Mike McDonald is such an effective leader and
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Speaker 2: why Cooper Cup is such a coach. On the field
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Speaker 2: and why Devin Witherspoon is easy to gravitate toward as
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Speaker 2: a teammate. To see living examples of that captured by
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Speaker 2: the HBO crew, it was very entertaining.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not for the nation.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how the nation's responding, but I think
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Speaker 2: all locals, all Seahawk fans, loved it. I certainly did
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Speaker 2: as well. I don't know about you.
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Speaker 3: No, I loved it.
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Speaker 4: And even from the beginning with the ring ceremony and
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Speaker 4: getting to see the reaction from the players to the rings,
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Speaker 4: but still the calmness of Mike McDonald in the moment
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Speaker 4: I thought was very well, I guess what you would
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Speaker 4: expect from Mike McDonald, but just to kind of see
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Speaker 4: like he was letting them have their excitement in their moment,
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Speaker 4: but then it was still kind of business. It was like, Yep,
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Speaker 4: we're going to celebrate right here and then we're moving on.
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Speaker 4: Just to start with that, I thought was great.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he himself just came across as like it's
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Speaker 2: very interesting. It's like he's well beyond his years in
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Speaker 2: terms of his wisdom and his communication. It's like he's
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Speaker 2: created his own form of communication and and you almost
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Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, he learned from a few people along
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Speaker 2: the way, but there's just something inherent to him. And
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Speaker 2: he doesn't like strike you like General Patton. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's not like that type of presence, but it is
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Speaker 2: somebody that sort of mastered his craft, works harder than
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Speaker 2: everyone el and yet has everybody else's back and expects
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Speaker 2: them to rise to his level of work. And it's
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Speaker 2: just an expectation. It's a unique brand of leadership that
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've come I've ever really come across.
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Speaker 2: And I can see how tremendously effective that it is.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean even you saw his leadership and
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Speaker 4: an example of it with the fight between Brady Russell
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Speaker 4: and Devin Witherstoon and then when he goes up to
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Speaker 4: Brady Russell and he's.
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Speaker 3: Like, hey man, you can't say that, like come on now,
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Speaker 3: And just the way.
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Speaker 4: That conversation went down, I was like, I like that,
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Speaker 4: Like he just approached him like a real person, not
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Speaker 4: you know, not trying to do too much. He was
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Speaker 4: just and Brady Russell knew he was wrong instantly, and
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Speaker 4: and and McDonald didn't have to take some nasty approach
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Speaker 4: about the whole thing. All he had to do was,
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Speaker 4: you know, kind of call him out quietly and say like,
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Speaker 4: all right, you know better than that, and and Brady
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Speaker 4: Russell saime, yeah, and he said go give him a hug.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a perfect example of it. And oh,
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Speaker 2: by the way, Brady Russell, who was our guest on
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Speaker 2: the show, Yesterdy Yeah. And I asked him, so, how
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Speaker 2: much are you going to be a part of the
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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks show. Do you get the feeling that they
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Speaker 2: were around you a lot, because with your personality, I
6:24
Speaker 2: would imagine you're going to be featured a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And he was like, no, I can't even imagine anything
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Speaker 2: that's gonna be featured about me. And of course he
6:33
Speaker 2: got peed on by a goat, so there's that. And
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Speaker 2: then they caught him dancing. That was like forty five
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Speaker 2: seconds worth of the show him dancing. And then he
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Speaker 2: did the cheap shot with Hall and then he did
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Speaker 2: the apology with with Mike and so Brady Russell, as
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Speaker 2: I forecasted, the cameras were drawn to him and his personality.
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Speaker 2: He came through and then sat here on our set
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Speaker 2: like I can't even imagine why a anyone would think
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Speaker 2: I'm interesting or entertaining.
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Speaker 1: But I think there's some truth to it. I don't think.
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Speaker 2: I think he's just being Brady Russell, which is a
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Speaker 2: unique personality. It's different, and part of that personality is
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Speaker 2: why would anybody be interested in what I have to say?
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Speaker 1: And yet the cameras clearly loved him.
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Speaker 2: I mean we're talking about a backup, full back, yeah,
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Speaker 2: and yet he had three different scenes in which they
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Speaker 2: featured him, So obviously the HBO crew has the same
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Speaker 2: view on Brady Russell that I do. I had a
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Speaker 2: feeling that they were going to be drawn to him
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Speaker 2: throughout this training camp.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can I could see why for sure.
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Speaker 3: I just it was it was interesting.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Derek Hall was a big part of it
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Speaker 4: from the truck right at the beginning too.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I didn't know it was a huge part
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize Derek Hall talks so much trash,
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Speaker 4: but he got his trash talking in there and that truck. Though.
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Speaker 4: When when that truck pulled up, I was like, who
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Speaker 4: in the heck drives that?
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Speaker 3: And we were trying to figure it out.
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Speaker 4: And then when he got out, I was like, I
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Speaker 4: wouldn't have put Derek Hall on my top ten list
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Speaker 4: of people I thought drove that truck.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, big trucks and tiny shorts, that's right there. That
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Speaker 2: sums up Derek Hall in a nutshell, big truck, tiny shorts,
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Speaker 2: that's right. Well, yeah, I don't know why people drive
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Speaker 2: trucks like that. I really don't. So I didn't come
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Speaker 2: away impressed by his wheel.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't like, oh my gosh, I wish I had
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Speaker 4: that truck. I was just more like, wow, that is
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Speaker 4: quite a bit tuck.
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Speaker 2: That is exclusively for people that make a lot of money.
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Speaker 2: I mean there if anybody's practically driving that thing around
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Speaker 2: and keeping it shiny and new, and I would imagine
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Speaker 2: he only brings it out on special occasions, you know,
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Speaker 2: like when training camp starts and you just got a
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Speaker 2: fourteen million dollars per year contract and you know that
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Speaker 2: a prominent.
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Speaker 1: Television network is waiting for you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, at your practice facility, that's probably one of those
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Speaker 2: occasions that you drive your big giant truck and wear
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Speaker 2: your big giant Super Bowl ring and your tiny little
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Speaker 2: man shorts to practice to work that day. And so
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Speaker 2: Derek Hall checked all of those boxes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he definitely did. And I loved it too.
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Speaker 4: The wrestling match with the Big Cat. That was one
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Speaker 4: of my favorite things. And when and especially because when
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Speaker 4: Palmer saw Leonard Williams, she goes, oh, big cat, and
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Speaker 4: I was like, I've never been more proud.
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Speaker 3: That she knew Leonard Williams was big cat.
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Speaker 2: That's a big boy. Big boy, I mean, Derek Hall's
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Speaker 2: big boy. And you could tell, like I do. I
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Speaker 2: have to do this to you every day, Derek too,
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Speaker 2: to remind you, and I appreciate it. And I'm going
9:47
Speaker 2: to tussle your hair right now and tell you you're a
9:50
Speaker 2: You're a good kid, but yeah, I'm bigger than you
9:53
Speaker 2: and I'm going to take you down every single time.
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Speaker 2: That's what it kind of came off as other things
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Speaker 2: that certainly the Cooper Cup. I mean, we've heard what
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Speaker 2: a coach he is on the field. Boy, did you
10:08
Speaker 2: get a dose of that in that episode from JSN.
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Speaker 2: Pretty much just telling the HBO crew like right off
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Speaker 2: the bat about it. And by the way, I should
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Speaker 2: say this, if people were saving it for today, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: This is not one of those This is not one
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Speaker 2: of those situations where you know a movie comes out,
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Speaker 2: and we've got to give you a grace period to
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Speaker 2: watch it so that we don't ruin it for you.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: We do sports talk radio for a living. This is
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Speaker 2: gonna be the talk of the entire station today and
10:42
Speaker 2: if you didn't have time to watch it, you're just
10:44
Speaker 2: gonna have to listen to us talk about it and
10:48
Speaker 2: then go back later and see how it actually unfolded.
10:51
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna hold back anything. I'm not gonna
10:53
Speaker 2: worry about ruining the ending. This is a big topic
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Speaker 2: here today on our radio show at the radio station,
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Speaker 2: and so I'm sorry if you were planning to watch
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Speaker 2: it at nine am this morning and I'm ruining it
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Speaker 2: for you, But we have to talk about this. There's
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Speaker 2: no way we can't talk about what we saw on
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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. And you should have known that going into
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Speaker 2: training camp this year.
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Speaker 4: Well I warned people yesterday too. We're going to talk
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Speaker 4: about it today.
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Speaker 2: We can't not. I mean there's even some newsworthy things
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Speaker 2: that we'll get to in a moment as well, but
11:21
Speaker 2: we can't not talk about it. And so if I'm
11:25
Speaker 2: ruining it for you, I do apologize, But then again,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to continue ruining it for you because it
11:31
Speaker 2: just makes sense on my end. So Cooper Cup, we've
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Speaker 2: heard about this leadership. JSN does the interview pretty much
11:38
Speaker 2: just spells it out for the crew, and then they
11:40
Speaker 2: just start showing you shining example after shining example, and
11:44
Speaker 2: the one that really took the cake was and I
11:47
Speaker 2: wish we could have seen the entire scene. They obviously
11:50
Speaker 2: had to edit it to a point that was acceptable
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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks because apparently Cooper Cup had pointed out
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Speaker 2: something that Mike McDonald didn't see in film study, and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden it starts. The scene starts with
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's saying, Oh, I see what it's through the center,
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Speaker 2: That's what he says, and then he just like leans
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Speaker 2: back in his chair and puts his hands on top
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Speaker 2: of his head.
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Speaker 1: His eyes are wide, and he's like, why did I
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Speaker 1: not see that?
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Speaker 2: And he just gives him this quiet, slow fist bump
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Speaker 2: and then leans back in his chair and kup go's, well,
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Speaker 2: you're welcome, I guess yeah, And Mike's just blown away
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Speaker 2: that that he didn't see it himself, because I know
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Speaker 2: he fancies himself as a master of film study. Uh,
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Speaker 2: and for Cooper to point out something so clever and
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Speaker 2: yet now so obvious that no one on the coaching
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Speaker 2: staff had seen. That was a phenomenal moment. I thought
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Speaker 2: it was my favorite moment in the entire episode.
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Speaker 4: Ashley and I could see why it was just especially
12:57
Speaker 4: because we hear so much about me. Cooper Cup talks about,
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Speaker 4: you know, just football, football, football. He's so smart. He's
13:05
Speaker 4: so smart, and he he kind of is like Hugh
13:08
Speaker 4: Millen's mindset, but in an currently active football player.
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Speaker 2: And so but as a normal human being, right, and then.
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Speaker 4: There's that and so but so to see like this
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Speaker 4: great offense, I mean, I don't even think Cooper Cup
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Speaker 4: is just a great offensive.
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Speaker 3: I think he just is aware of everything that's going
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Speaker 3: on on the field.
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Speaker 4: And so to see him, yeah, combined with Mike McDonald
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Speaker 4: and having that moment where it's like the student becomes
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Speaker 4: the teacher all of a sudden, for a second, I
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Speaker 4: thought it was cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then he even had the moment where he
13:35
Speaker 2: sort of took a shot at Travis Kelcey as well,
13:38
Speaker 2: because apparently he got invited to the wedding and he
13:41
Speaker 2: went to the wedding and that was news to Sam,
13:44
Speaker 2: and Sam's like, why did you get invited? And comes like,
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I thought it was a joke.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the invitation.
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Speaker 2: It was a joke, and and I And then then
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Speaker 2: there was like the line of I would have thought
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Speaker 2: that he knew a lot more people better than me,
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Speaker 2: which is the criticism of the event. I mean, they
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Speaker 2: were inviting people they didn't even know personally. She gave him,
14:11
Speaker 2: she told him, invite a lot of people that you
14:13
Speaker 2: think are cool, regardless of whether or not you know them.
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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna do the same thing on the entertainment end,
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Speaker 2: and we're probably not gonna see them talk to them
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Speaker 2: at any point during the course of our wedding ceremony.
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Speaker 2: But let's make sure that this is a football meets
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Speaker 2: entertainment spectacle like never before. So give me a really
14:36
Speaker 2: good list, honey, And so give me your favorite football
14:39
Speaker 2: players in the league, regardless if you've ever spent any
14:42
Speaker 2: time with them. And that's that's how the wedding invitations
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Speaker 2: went out. Yeah, and then doesn't sound very personal, doesn't
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Speaker 2: sound very romantic and lovey, I'll tell.
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Speaker 3: You definitely does not.
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Speaker 4: And when Sam was like, well, didn't they invite like
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Speaker 4: a thousand people, and he's like yeah, like it was yeah.
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Speaker 2: And you knew that. Sam was thinking, well, why didn't
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Speaker 2: I get an invite? My wife would have like to
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Speaker 2: have gone to that. That would have been fun.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been all about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you didn't even need to know the guy
15:06
Speaker 2: very well, I should have gotten one. I'm a super
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Speaker 2: Bowl winning quarterback. No that's not what he was Sayking,
15:12
Speaker 2: but maybe not the super Bowl quarterback part, but I
15:14
Speaker 2: do think he was thinking the other part, and then
15:17
Speaker 2: one other thing, and then we'll get to some of
15:19
Speaker 2: the news that emerged from it. Was. I mean, we've
15:23
Speaker 2: heard from Greg Bell, our insider, and you know we're
15:27
Speaker 2: gonna have Greg on at a special time for a
15:29
Speaker 2: special length of time today a little later on in
15:32
Speaker 2: the show, and not just talk about hard knocks. But
15:34
Speaker 2: obviously they don't have access to the same things HBO
15:37
Speaker 2: is getting access to during training camp. But there is
15:41
Speaker 2: an advantage to being a guy that's covered this team
15:45
Speaker 2: for over twenty years in your here every single day.
15:48
Speaker 2: And Greg Bell's made it clear over the last year
15:50
Speaker 2: and a half two years that Devin Witherspoon has stepped
15:53
Speaker 2: up to be Mike McDonald's favorite player, And I'm sure
15:56
Speaker 2: a coach would never admit that. You know, it's just
15:59
Speaker 2: like it's probably be having to pick your favorite child. Uh.
16:03
Speaker 2: The only person that would do that is Dion Sanders,
16:05
Speaker 2: and he does it regularly. Yes, But but I don't
16:08
Speaker 2: know if a coach would ever go even if the
16:11
Speaker 2: people in the room, no, you gravitate toward a certain player.
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Speaker 2: But Greg has told us that Devin Witherspoon is Mike
16:19
Speaker 2: McDonald's favorite player on the team just the way that
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 1: He's he's he's teacher's pet out here.
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Speaker 2: And sure enough, they show the photo of wife pregnant
16:32
Speaker 2: wife by the way, and Toddler's son and they're up
16:37
Speaker 2: in Mike McDonald's offense while practice is going on. And
16:41
Speaker 2: what is little McDonald wearing a Devn Witherspoon jersey?
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Speaker 3: Yep, he was. Jack was instantly my favorite.
16:50
Speaker 4: I mean he was just the cutest.
16:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he already knows the word football like over
16:56
Speaker 2: and over and over, so uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I
17:00
Speaker 2: think dad's done a little brainwashing with young McDonald. Old
17:04
Speaker 2: McDonald has done some brainwashing with young McDonald. That was
17:08
Speaker 2: one of my favorite parts of the entire episodes, like,
17:11
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're not even hiding it the first
17:14
Speaker 2: jersey you bought for the first episode of Hard Knocks
17:17
Speaker 2: as of Devin Witherspoon, Yeah, you do have a teacher's
17:21
Speaker 2: pat Craig's been right all along. So anyway, great, great start,
17:26
Speaker 2: few more episodes coming. Of course, read a lot last
17:29
Speaker 2: night on Twitter where people couldn't wait for the next episode.
17:33
Speaker 2: But I don't know how the nation is reacting, but
17:37
Speaker 2: I do get the gravitational pull that creates for the
17:40
Speaker 2: local fan interest, and I think I think most people
17:44
Speaker 2: listening probably enjoyed it as much as what Ashley and
17:46
Speaker 2: I did. Let's find out what's on tap for the
17:48
Speaker 2: rest of the show today, man, have your please.
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18:07
Speaker 2: I've already mentioned it a couple of times, so I
18:09
Speaker 2: might as well finally tell you. Greg Bell is gonna
18:11
Speaker 2: be joining us. Not at seven o five today, He'll
18:13
Speaker 2: be joining us at nine o'clock today, and not because
18:17
Speaker 2: Greg didn't want to get up, but because I asked him, Hey,
18:20
Speaker 2: you mind coming on for an hour if we put
18:23
Speaker 2: it right before your show gets underway. So yes, I
18:26
Speaker 2: assigned him a three hour show basically today where he
18:29
Speaker 2: normally just works the two, and I think he wants
18:33
Speaker 2: to do it. I wasn't a thousand percent convinced that
18:38
Speaker 2: he wasn't just doing it to be a good teammate.
18:41
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, he'll join us today at nine o'clock, so
18:44
Speaker 2: we'll be able to talk about what he found out
18:46
Speaker 2: about Hard Knocks and then measure that against what he's
18:49
Speaker 2: learned on the beat as well. But we'll just have
18:52
Speaker 2: a good stretcher legs hour long conversation today with our
18:56
Speaker 2: Seahawks insider right here from Seahawks training camp. The two
19:01
Speaker 2: news items. Another thing that I mentioned a couple of
19:03
Speaker 2: times and you'd probably like to know them in case
19:05
Speaker 2: you didn't watch Hard Knocks last night, The Witherspoon contract.
19:09
Speaker 2: There was a moment in the episode where John Schneider
19:14
Speaker 2: was seen talking to Mike McDonald and others about, well,
19:18
Speaker 2: a story leaked out that's not entirely accurate, and so
19:22
Speaker 2: he had to call Ian Rapaport of now ESPN to say, hey,
19:27
Speaker 2: make sure you tell Spoon's agent that that leak did
19:32
Speaker 2: not come from us. And so I don't know what
19:35
Speaker 2: kind of riff that that caused in the negotiation, but
19:39
Speaker 2: obviously we don't have a deal done at this point.
19:41
Speaker 2: Maybe HBO likes it that way stretched this thing out
19:44
Speaker 2: for a few weeks. But Spoon also was interviewed about it,
19:49
Speaker 2: and he made it pretty clear that he's expecting to
19:53
Speaker 2: be paid big money and maybe top cornerback money is
19:58
Speaker 2: not enough. Maybe he is trying to pushed the bar
20:00
Speaker 2: a little bit higher, but he made it very clear
20:03
Speaker 2: of his own recognition of his value to this football team.
20:08
Speaker 2: And so I don't know. I would have thought this
20:10
Speaker 2: thing would have gone smoothly. Doesn't look like it's gonna
20:13
Speaker 2: go smoothly. Also, Nick emn Worri Man, anybody that watched
20:17
Speaker 2: that episode last night, if you had a great feeling
20:20
Speaker 2: about Emon Warri being ready for the start of the season,
20:23
Speaker 2: that probably does not exist anymore.
20:26
Speaker 1: When Mike McDonald's using phrases like we.
20:29
Speaker 2: Got to minimize the amount of games this guy misses,
20:33
Speaker 2: it probably means he's gonna miss a game or two.
20:36
Speaker 2: So I'm sure a freakish athlete recovers freakishly from injuries
20:41
Speaker 2: like this, but I did not get the sense. I
20:45
Speaker 2: was not encouraged about Emon Warri's availability for week number
20:49
Speaker 2: one based off of the show last night, so we'll
20:52
Speaker 2: talk about that later on in the program as well.
20:54
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game is tomorrow, so the preseason gets
20:56
Speaker 2: underway with the Panthers and the Cardinals. Hall of Fame
20:59
Speaker 2: Week is coming up this weekend. Luke, Keikley, Larry Fitzgerald,
21:04
Speaker 2: prominent Panthers and Cardinals are going to be inducted into
21:07
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame along with others. Husky's camp starts tomorrow,
21:11
Speaker 2: by the way, and the coaches poll in college football
21:14
Speaker 2: came out yesterday with Ohio State being ranked number one,
21:18
Speaker 2: Oregon number two, and UDUB sitting there at number nineteen.
21:22
Speaker 2: Storm will play at New York against the Liberty tonight
21:25
Speaker 2: at four o'clock. Just lost to them earlier in the week.
21:28
Speaker 2: The Sounders are now in League's Cup. So I don't
21:32
Speaker 2: understand the MLS about a month off and then a
21:36
Speaker 2: week off for the All Star break and now two
21:38
Speaker 2: weeks off to play in a tournament.
21:41
Speaker 1: So I don't think the MLS is gonna finish at.
21:43
Speaker 2: Season this year. That's my conclusion. A Little League World Series.
21:46
Speaker 2: Snohomish back at it today against Canada. That is basically
21:50
Speaker 2: the Daniel Lourie Bowl right there. Yeah, So Snowholmish versus
21:54
Speaker 2: Canada today at ten am. And of course Snohomish cannot
21:57
Speaker 2: afford another loss. They lost in round one to Florida,
22:01
Speaker 2: but beat Texas yesterday. And finally, the Mariners made news
22:06
Speaker 2: yesterday with a lot of roster moves. Taylor Ward obviously
22:09
Speaker 2: put on the roster, Sir Anthony Dominguez put on the roster,
22:12
Speaker 2: Brendan Donovan activated from the IL, and in doing so,
22:16
Speaker 2: they waved goodbye to Mitch Garver and Rob Refsnyder. Things
22:20
Speaker 2: we'll talk about later on in the show, But coming
22:22
Speaker 2: up next, Mariners Morning After comes your way, a recap
22:25
Speaker 2: of last night's dismal affair against the Detroit Tigers right
22:29
Speaker 2: here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. I
22:32
Speaker 2: really don't want to go through an entire process, No,
22:35
Speaker 2: I like.
22:35
Speaker 1: Trying to find a new loser song.
22:37
Speaker 2: So I mean, if I just want to leave it
22:39
Speaker 2: to you, whatever mood you're in do you want to
22:41
Speaker 2: like play happy goofy music to kind of change the chemistry.
22:46
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna go back to like the
22:47
Speaker 4: song that you hate more than anything, which is waked
22:49
Speaker 4: me up before you go go.
22:51
Speaker 2: But that used to be a winning song. That's what
22:53
Speaker 2: anders Hurst started playing for wins.
22:55
Speaker 4: But then we changed it. That was two years ago.
22:58
Speaker 4: Then last year we played it for a lot because
23:02
Speaker 4: we already you already hated the song in the first place.
23:04
Speaker 2: Well, uh yeah, well it's too late for this song.
23:08
Speaker 2: I hate it.
23:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
23:10
Speaker 1: So you know what, I'm not gonna make any rules
23:13
Speaker 1: on this.
23:14
Speaker 2: You play what you want because we're to that point
23:17
Speaker 2: in the season where we need to try anything. We
23:19
Speaker 2: need to mix up the juju something that's going on
23:23
Speaker 2: around here, because last night was not exactly the way
23:27
Speaker 2: you wanted the brand new Seattle Mariners to roll out
23:30
Speaker 2: of the trade deadline with a one piece back and
23:34
Speaker 2: the brand new piece and Taylor Ward and the roster. Now,
23:37
Speaker 2: I will say this, I did warn you multiple times
23:40
Speaker 2: yesterday how good a pitcher we were going up against
23:43
Speaker 2: last night. He did not make the All Star Game
23:46
Speaker 2: because he simply hasn't pitched enough this year. He started
23:50
Speaker 2: the season on the injury list, but since he's been active.
23:55
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about maybe the guy pitching best
23:58
Speaker 2: in all of baseball better than Eric Scouble this season
24:02
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Tigers in Troy Melton, and he dominated
24:06
Speaker 2: the Mariners last year. We had a much harder time
24:08
Speaker 2: against Melton in the playoffs last year than we did
24:11
Speaker 2: against Scooble. And so we were going up against a
24:15
Speaker 2: great pitcher last night. And what did they say about
24:18
Speaker 2: great pitching It beats great hitting. Well, we don't have
24:21
Speaker 2: great hitting, you know, so great pitching certainly beats bad hitting.
24:27
Speaker 2: And so I didn't really think we were gonna win
24:30
Speaker 2: this game last night. Now I didn't expect it to
24:33
Speaker 2: finish eight to nothing, but I thought the only way
24:36
Speaker 2: we're gonna win this game is if we kept it
24:39
Speaker 2: one nothing, two to one, got Melton out of the game,
24:42
Speaker 2: got into the Tigers suspect bullpen, and then won it
24:45
Speaker 2: late that that was my vision, but that got changed
24:50
Speaker 2: as soon as the third inning rolled around. Cold Emerson
24:53
Speaker 2: makes the error trying to make a play to get
24:56
Speaker 2: you out of the inning, and yes, twenty years old,
24:59
Speaker 2: probably it's that ball and just go ahead and live
25:02
Speaker 2: with bases loaded, or plant your foot and recognize that
25:06
Speaker 2: although Riley Green's a very good player, he's a very
25:09
Speaker 2: slow base runner. You might you certainly had a better
25:12
Speaker 2: chance had you planted your foot and tried to put
25:16
Speaker 2: Mustard behind it and got him out that way than
25:19
Speaker 2: you would have trying to make that play on the run.
25:22
Speaker 2: But he tried to make the spectacular play to get
25:25
Speaker 2: Emerson out of the inning, and it ends up an
25:28
Speaker 2: error of throwing air that allows a run to score.
25:31
Speaker 2: And at that stage you're fine, You're okay, You're down one.
25:35
Speaker 2: I know Melton's great, but you're only down one. You
25:38
Speaker 2: got two outs in the inning, so just get the
25:40
Speaker 2: next hitter. And this is where the inning went from.
25:44
Speaker 2: All right, blame Colt Emerson for the one nothing deficit,
25:48
Speaker 2: to quickly blame Emerson Hancock for the entire inning, because
25:54
Speaker 2: up in the count against a pretty mediocre hitter in
25:57
Speaker 2: Colt Keith Emerson, Hancock, huh a sweeper. This is lying to.
26:02
Speaker 1: Right field and it's in between for a base hit.
26:06
Speaker 6: Dingler is into score, great, plate the plate safe. Suddenly
26:12
Speaker 6: a three run hitting for the Tigers, all with two outs.
26:17
Speaker 1: Thanks to Aaron Mariner's TV three to nothing.
26:20
Speaker 2: At that point in Ashley frankly, I uttered a loud
26:23
Speaker 2: game over. I knew it was over right then, and
26:25
Speaker 2: there it was.
26:27
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was over right then, but I thought,
26:29
Speaker 4: oh man, that was that was really that hurt. That
26:32
Speaker 4: was really hard to watch, just that whole inning unfold.
26:35
Speaker 4: And I didn't have a great feeling about how we
26:39
Speaker 4: were gonna come back. But I wasn't thinking it was
26:41
Speaker 4: over because I thought, you know what we've been We
26:44
Speaker 4: put up a lot of hits the other day.
26:45
Speaker 3: We can do this again. We've got Brendan Donovan back.
26:48
Speaker 3: We've got Taylor Ward. He can get on base. We
26:50
Speaker 3: can do this or we can't. We can manage four
26:52
Speaker 3: hits in an entire game.
26:54
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, great pitching beats great hitting. Great
26:57
Speaker 2: pitching demolishes bad hitting. I was not expecting a big
27:01
Speaker 2: run outburst even with the new additions to the lineup,
27:06
Speaker 2: and got up. Maybe final losses become right today. That
27:16
Speaker 2: passed plus Houston one yesterday extended the lead in the
27:21
Speaker 2: division to three and a half games. Here's Dan Wilson
27:24
Speaker 2: explaining away and ate nothing loss.
27:27
Speaker 7: Yeah, tough one tonight. You know I thought Emerson, you know,
27:32
Speaker 7: threw the ball well tonight. You know, I think gave
27:36
Speaker 7: us a chance to win. You know, I think, uh,
27:39
Speaker 7: you know, a tough play there by Coldy. He makes
27:41
Speaker 7: that playing nine times out of ten, and just like
27:43
Speaker 7: he looks like he just kind of pulled it up
27:44
Speaker 7: the line today and you know, kind of opened the
27:47
Speaker 7: door there for that beginning in the third and and
27:50
Speaker 7: they were able to get that you know, that fourth run.
27:53
Speaker 7: But you know, I thought, for the most party, he
27:57
Speaker 7: threw the ball well. He executed the game plan and
28:00
Speaker 7: he wanted to execute and and uh, you know, gave
28:03
Speaker 7: us a chance to get in there late offensively, just
28:05
Speaker 7: you know, not a lot going on Mountain tonight. You know,
28:08
Speaker 7: he's he's had success this season. You know, I thought, uh,
28:12
Speaker 7: you know, he gave us a steady mix, like we knew,
28:15
Speaker 7: and and he used that cutter, I thought, very effectively,
28:18
Speaker 7: just kind of didn't allow a lot of solid contact.
28:21
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't a lot of it wasn't a
28:22
Speaker 7: lot of strikeouts. We did draw a couple of walks.
28:25
Speaker 7: We did have you know a little bit of traffic
28:27
Speaker 7: here and there, but nothing sustained and nothing consistent and Uh,
28:31
Speaker 7: he just kept us off the barrel all night long,
28:34
Speaker 7: and you know, a tough one tonight. We got to
28:37
Speaker 7: come back tomorrow and and uh, you know, like we
28:40
Speaker 7: did against Minnesota, we got we got to get you know,
28:42
Speaker 7: the series and and starts tomorrow.
28:45
Speaker 2: Oh wow, they're a little urgency there. We got to
28:47
Speaker 2: get the series. That's like the most urgency I've ever
28:50
Speaker 2: heard him express. Uh So there you go. Eight nothing
28:53
Speaker 2: the final score. I don't think it's the end of
28:56
Speaker 2: the world. I do think the lineup is better. I
28:58
Speaker 2: do think you're going to see the results of that.
29:00
Speaker 2: But I also think that it is going to come
29:03
Speaker 2: down not to Taylor Ward and Brendan Donovan. It's going
29:05
Speaker 2: to come down to cal Rawley, Josh Naylor, and Julio Rodriguez.
29:10
Speaker 2: And they need to finally be the players that they are.
29:13
Speaker 2: And if they don't end up being that, then we're
29:15
Speaker 2: not going to win this division. It is really hard
29:19
Speaker 2: to win a division, no matter how soft the competition is,
29:23
Speaker 2: when your three best hitters are having bad years. So
29:27
Speaker 2: we need them to hit. We need them not just
29:29
Speaker 2: to hit, not just singles. We need them to produce runs.
29:33
Speaker 2: We need them to drive in runs. And we just
29:35
Speaker 2: haven't seen it all season long from any of the three,
29:38
Speaker 2: particularly Cal and Josh. Josh has actually been getting on
29:43
Speaker 2: base as of late, but where's the production from Josh Naylor,
29:46
Speaker 2: which is what you re signed him for in the
29:48
Speaker 2: first place. So it's an eight nothing lost last night,
29:52
Speaker 2: but look, you want a silver lining. If not for
29:57
Speaker 2: the trading deadline, we would have faced schoobale La last
30:00
Speaker 2: night and Melton tonight, so we would have had to
30:03
Speaker 2: face them and back to back games, and I would
30:08
Speaker 2: not have felt great.
30:09
Speaker 3: About that, and that's understandable.
30:11
Speaker 4: But I will say we've in the past performed pretty
30:13
Speaker 4: well against Scooble, so I wouldn't have been I mean,
30:15
Speaker 4: it's still it doesn't matter how how we've done, though,
30:19
Speaker 4: because I always will still worry because he's Trek Scooble.
30:21
Speaker 3: So it is nice that we didn't have to you know,
30:24
Speaker 3: well you much.
30:25
Speaker 1: You much more prefer to face.
30:27
Speaker 2: Drew Anderson is who we're gonna face tonight, and he's
30:31
Speaker 2: got I mean, he's got talent, strikes out a lot
30:34
Speaker 2: of guys, but he's also been a relief pitcher all
30:36
Speaker 2: season long, and so there pop him into a spot
30:39
Speaker 2: start for I think the third time this year, So
30:43
Speaker 2: I would think the max he's gonna go is five.
30:45
Speaker 2: Hopefully you chase him a little bit earlier, maybe keep
30:48
Speaker 2: him to a two three inning outing, and then get
30:51
Speaker 2: into the bullpen. And so that's gonna put you in
30:53
Speaker 2: a much better position here tonight. And so we'll take
30:57
Speaker 2: the pitching matchup tonight, Brian Will going for the Mariners,
31:00
Speaker 2: and he is at home six forty first pitch. I
31:04
Speaker 2: think we're gonna get this thing done tonight. And I
31:06
Speaker 2: do think that we are to a degree going to
31:09
Speaker 2: turn this thing around offensively. And I'm just gonna hold
31:13
Speaker 2: to my guns despite the disappointing loss last night, that
31:16
Speaker 2: this team will eventually figure something out offensively and that's
31:20
Speaker 2: all that is needed for them to erase the three
31:24
Speaker 2: and a half game deficit with Houston and still take
31:27
Speaker 2: this division. But no doubt that.
31:29
Speaker 1: Was a that was a loss.
31:31
Speaker 2: You know, if there are forty wins a year and
31:34
Speaker 2: forty losses a year guaranteed, and it's what you do
31:37
Speaker 2: in the other eighty two that tells you what kind
31:39
Speaker 2: of team you are. That's one of the forty losses
31:42
Speaker 2: right there. Just never really felt like we had much
31:45
Speaker 2: of a chance after the third inning. All right, Coming
31:47
Speaker 2: up next on the radio program, Sam Darnold. A big
31:51
Speaker 2: topic of conversation, the national guy's not giving our world
31:54
Speaker 2: champion quarterback enough credit. Did Mike Sando and his coquarterback
32:00
Speaker 2: tier poll come up short yesterday as well? We'll discuss
32:03
Speaker 2: on Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A RFM.
32:26
Speaker 2: All right, it's Chuck Allen, Ashley Ryan with you, broadcasting
32:29
Speaker 2: live here from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center for another
32:32
Speaker 2: day of Seahawks training camp. We will have talk a
32:35
Speaker 2: camp a little bit later on. Do you want to
32:37
Speaker 2: warn you Greg Bell not joining us today at seven
32:39
Speaker 2: oh five because I have coerced him into joining me
32:42
Speaker 2: for an entire hour today in the nine o'clock hour,
32:45
Speaker 2: so can't wait to get his thoughts. He'll be here
32:47
Speaker 2: at our set from nine to ten talking from Seahawks
32:51
Speaker 2: football of course. Reacting to Hard Knocks as well. Really
32:55
Speaker 2: really disappointed, almost floored that I wasn't included in the
32:59
Speaker 2: first episode. I live a slap in the face.
33:02
Speaker 3: Looked for you.
33:03
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been out here every day, HBO. I
33:06
Speaker 2: don't know. Do you not know a.
33:08
Speaker 1: Star when you see one.
33:09
Speaker 3: What more do you need?
33:10
Speaker 2: I mean, this is my chance to become I don't know,
33:14
Speaker 2: zombie number twelve on the next season of Last of
33:16
Speaker 2: Us and you're overlooking a true jam here.
33:19
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry you're missing out.
33:21
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. I know I know a lot
33:23
Speaker 2: of others. I know a lot of other people would
33:26
Speaker 2: also catch their eye as well if they had the opportunity.
33:29
Speaker 2: I realize I'm not one of one, but I'm here.
33:33
Speaker 2: You know, I've got the advantage of being here and
33:35
Speaker 2: being seen, and they're just overlooked. And you never know.
33:39
Speaker 2: I become Zombie number twelve on season three of the
33:42
Speaker 2: Last of Us. I heard Pascal died in the last episode.
33:46
Speaker 2: I then impress people as Zombie number twelve, and next
33:50
Speaker 2: thing you know, I'm the star of the show.
33:51
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly how it works, Chuck.
33:53
Speaker 4: Most people go from being an extra with no name
33:56
Speaker 4: other than zombie twelve two Pascal.
34:01
Speaker 2: I'm glad that you pointed that out because you went
34:03
Speaker 2: to school in Los Angeles and you know how it works.
34:06
Speaker 3: I even worked for a director. I saw it in action.
34:08
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, I got a really great story
34:12
Speaker 2: ahead of me. If somebody would just bother to open
34:15
Speaker 2: the book. Well, yesterday we talked to Mike Sando, or
34:19
Speaker 2: NFL Insider, his Quarterback Tears article came out.
34:23
Speaker 1: He works on it very hard, very diligently.
34:26
Speaker 2: Every year. He gets all sorts of love and attention
34:28
Speaker 2: for it throughout the entire nation, and so much so
34:33
Speaker 2: that he treated me kind of I thought roughly yesterday,
34:36
Speaker 2: kept acting like he didn't have time for us, So
34:39
Speaker 2: he rushed off the air with us a little bit yesterday,
34:42
Speaker 2: But he gave us fifteen minutes, which was probably five
34:45
Speaker 2: more than he gave anybody else to talk about his article.
34:49
Speaker 2: And one thing that I did notice about it, Sam
34:52
Speaker 2: Darnold sitting there at number fourteen, tied for fourteen with
34:56
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield out of thirty five quarterbacks, ranked closer to
35:00
Speaker 2: being on Tier three than Tier one with the big fellas.
35:05
Speaker 2: And I asked Mike Sando to explain that.
35:08
Speaker 8: Well, I think, you know, he's definitely earned everybody's respect.
35:11
Speaker 8: But let's not forget that. You know, they are a
35:14
Speaker 8: team that had an amazing defense and special teams. Probably
35:18
Speaker 8: they could arguably have the best defense.
35:19
Speaker 2: Of the special teams in the league.
35:20
Speaker 8: So when you have that even Lamar Jackson early in
35:23
Speaker 8: his career as a clear great talent, you know you're
35:26
Speaker 8: not getting as much credit when you win in those ways.
35:29
Speaker 8: And in the super Bowl, they didn't really need him
35:31
Speaker 8: to do a ton, but they kind of It wasn't
35:33
Speaker 8: like they leaned into Sam Darnold, right, they kind of
35:34
Speaker 8: took the ball out of his hands and won it convincingly,
35:37
Speaker 8: but running the ball and playing great defense. So I
35:40
Speaker 8: think people realize that if you were to put it
35:43
Speaker 8: on him every week to really spin it around and
35:44
Speaker 8: try to be the MVP, there'd be limitations to that.
35:48
Speaker 8: It doesn't mean that he can't do it when he
35:50
Speaker 8: needs to. On occasion you just want to ask him,
35:53
Speaker 8: there's a whole or two in his game, right, He's
35:55
Speaker 8: gonna probably turn it over a little more. But when
35:58
Speaker 8: shoot NFC Championship game, he needed deal and he did.
36:01
Speaker 8: They're just not doing that every week like the rams
36:03
Speaker 8: RBIs Stafford.
36:05
Speaker 2: Mike Sando yesterday. If you want to hear the entire conversation,
36:08
Speaker 2: feel free to do that on our podcast ninety three
36:10
Speaker 2: three kjar dot com.
36:12
Speaker 1: A pushback on one thing.
36:14
Speaker 2: I don't really like the argument that because he wasn't
36:17
Speaker 2: needed to be a star in the Super Bowl. He
36:19
Speaker 2: doesn't get credit for that. I mean, what is he
36:21
Speaker 2: supposed to do. We're dominating this game, The defense is dominating.
36:24
Speaker 2: We don't need to really throw the ball around the yard.
36:27
Speaker 2: Why are you holding it against me that I didn't
36:29
Speaker 2: pass for three hundred and twenty five yards? Hey, if
36:33
Speaker 2: I tried to like audible out so that I could
36:35
Speaker 2: put up my statistics, what would that do due to
36:38
Speaker 2: my reputation and to my relationship with my coaches. But
36:43
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I heard a really good
36:45
Speaker 2: argument off of our air yesterday, there is more of
36:52
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold not being successful. There's more of that on
36:55
Speaker 2: his resume than there is him being successful. So maybe
36:59
Speaker 2: there is this element of man I we here in
37:04
Speaker 2: Seattle had to listen to him all year long, had
37:07
Speaker 2: to listen to all the doubters. Then he proves them
37:10
Speaker 2: wrong and proves that he does have the ability to
37:13
Speaker 2: win the big games and even be the star in
37:15
Speaker 2: the big games like he was against the Rams to
37:17
Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl. And so you want him
37:20
Speaker 2: to be able to get his respect in the offseason.
37:24
Speaker 2: I think he should be slightly higher on this list.
37:26
Speaker 2: I think he should be knocking on the top tens door.
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Speaker 2: But that's probably because we've lived the Sam Darnold experience
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Speaker 2: and we just want to see a guy that's been
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Speaker 2: raked over the coals by the critics get the respect
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Speaker 2: that he's earned in his short time with the Seahawks
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Speaker 2: becoming Super Bowl champion. But I suppose, stepping back from
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Speaker 2: a thirty thousand foot view, I would understand why a
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Speaker 2: coach and an executive being polled about quarterback talent might
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Speaker 2: need to see a little bit more from him, and
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Speaker 2: so we show him more this year, right, fourteen, We
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Speaker 2: just show them more of what you've got, and then
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Speaker 2: next year maybe we're talking about a different ranking. All right,
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Speaker 2: and I just can't help myself. I suppose that I'll
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