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Mac & Bone Hour 1: England Falls in WC Semifinal & Hornets Lose in SL · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: When come on sty Oh is Mike and Boo.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Charlotte, Welcome board, Happy Thursday. It is the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Boone radio shows. We get ready to do
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  Speaker 1: this thing. We will recap day one of the ACC Tournament.
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  Speaker 1: We've got day two of the ACC Tournament. ACC Tournament.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck? Am I smoking? The ACC Kickoff? Clean
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  Speaker 1: the store. We already clean up one of the aisles.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap, Hey, there's nowhere to go but up from here.
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  Speaker 1: We hope, we hope, but yes, you get the picture.
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  Speaker 1: Football talking season. ACC Kickoff day one we will recap
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  Speaker 1: at NC State talking big game. Jim Phillips with his
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  Speaker 1: yearly ACC kickoff address. We're definitely going to focus on that.
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  Speaker 1: And the ACC has a new tiebreaker. Have they solved
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  Speaker 1: all their problems? Have they created some new ones. We
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  Speaker 1: will talk about that here a bunch today on the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Radio showtime. We got summer League from
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  Speaker 1: last night for the Hornets. Pretty dang ugly, pretty dang ugly.
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  Speaker 1: But Hannis went to heck off and I know Fitty
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  Speaker 1: is very upset about this, very upset England kind of
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  Speaker 1: blew it yesterday. This Argentina team. My god, you can't
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  Speaker 1: kill these cats all right, any So we get a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about Will Greer retirement too, Panthers back
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  Speaker 1: down to three quarterbacks, so there's a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We have what the Bleep segment as well.
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  Speaker 1: We are without the Boneman. The Bone Man on a
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  Speaker 1: little getaway to Nashville today and he will be out
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  Speaker 1: through Monday, so he's got a little long weekend getaway.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully the Fit Dog and I can hold it down
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  Speaker 1: and suffice Fitty. I actually feel bad yesterday. I really
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make sure, since you're the number two guy
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  Speaker 1: on the show today, I really wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 1: you were locked in the Hornet Summer League and weren't
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  Speaker 1: watching a Taylor Sheridan show or something. I now have
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  Speaker 1: to apologize to you because if you sat there like
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  Speaker 1: I did and watch the entire game, my god, there
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  Speaker 1: were some there was some ugliness out there, Fitty.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't the.
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  Speaker 3: Prettiest display of Summer League basketball, although Mackett was a
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  Speaker 3: one point game, like in the middle of the third
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  Speaker 3: before sixteen run by Milwaukee effectively put the game away.
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  Speaker 3: I told you in the pre show, this version of
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  Speaker 3: the Summer League Cornets they deserve the the old Orlando
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  Speaker 3: Magic practice gym with the with the ragtag jerseys as
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  Speaker 3: opposed to being out there in beautiful Las Vegas. They
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  Speaker 3: wear more legitimate uniforms as opposed to practice tops like
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  Speaker 3: they used to wear back in the day. Mac This
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  Speaker 3: team went to Vegas talking about winning another championship and
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  Speaker 3: defending their Summer League title, and they've gone one in
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  Speaker 3: three and we'll not have a chance to defend said title.
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  Speaker 3: We're not having the same vibes we had last summer.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think we have to remind ourselves that last
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  Speaker 1: year is the exception, not the role. Summer League basketball
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  Speaker 1: usually gets exhausting to view at this point. Last year
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  Speaker 1: was the was the admiration that we actually had fun
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  Speaker 1: the whole way through watching Summer League. Listen, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: context here that has to be given. The Hornets chose
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  Speaker 1: to sit Liam Neely, Ryan Kalkbrenner, and Seon James yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and I completely understand it. I think McNeely certainly showed enough.
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  Speaker 1: Lord knows, they were asking him to do so much
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  Speaker 1: with the ball, and he shot it really well. Kalkbrenner
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  Speaker 1: and Seon have a ton of experience from their rookie season.
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  Speaker 1: I think it makes complete success, complete sense to put
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  Speaker 1: those guys on the shelf. But it just means that
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  Speaker 1: there are going to be guys coming off the Hornet
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  Speaker 1: Summer league bench that I think would be I think
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  Speaker 1: Church League Fitty Marlow would be an upgrade over somebody
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  Speaker 1: Max McKinnon. Oh my lord, I don't know where you
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  Speaker 1: came from, but you might want to play in Fitty's
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  Speaker 1: church league here, son, Holy heck. But anyway, the real
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  Speaker 1: story is listen. You know whate was us We had
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  Speaker 1: to suffer through ugly summer league basketball. But Hanna Steinbach,
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  Speaker 1: hanns Steinbach, in the second half rescued us man because
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  Speaker 1: he was worth your time viewing all by himself. He
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  Speaker 1: ends up finishing with twenty seven points, fifteen rebounds, seven
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  Speaker 1: offensive rebounds, throws in a few assists, three assists for
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  Speaker 1: good measure. He absolutely dominated the second half of this
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  Speaker 1: basketball game. And I was saying after Game three, I
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  Speaker 1: was saying to Bone, I'm not saying he's good, that
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be like this in regular season games, but
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  Speaker 1: against summer league competition. Go to Steinbach. Get him involved
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  Speaker 1: in the offense, throw it to him on the low block,
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  Speaker 1: run picking rolls with him, try like he should be
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  Speaker 1: able to score the ball. And my god, he did
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  Speaker 1: it last night in the second half, so efficient too.
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  Speaker 1: He was ridiculous. Salon gotta gives Selon credit. He was
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  Speaker 1: real good in the first half of this game. Showed
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  Speaker 1: some flashes, had some Salon moments, a couple of air
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  Speaker 1: balls from three. But he had his best game of
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  Speaker 1: summer league as well. But Steinbach and Christian Anderson has
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  Speaker 1: really had an up and down summer league. He had
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  Speaker 1: the assists last night that I've been asking for. He
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  Speaker 1: only had had one assist over the weekend in two
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  Speaker 1: games when we had ten last night. So he did
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  Speaker 1: give you more playmaking. It's it was a brutal night
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  Speaker 1: shooting the ball and he had some rough, rough turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: He ended up with three points one of eight shooting.
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  Speaker 1: But that Steinbach performance fit, I think is enough to
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  Speaker 1: energize Hornets. I'm not even shy. I'll be curious to
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  Speaker 1: see if they play him tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, because after the way he performed last night,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to, if that's how he wants to
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  Speaker 3: end his.
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  Speaker 2: Summer, who's going to be a bubble album?
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  Speaker 3: Mac what I love about him, and I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: probably growing up with the son of a coach, loved
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  Speaker 3: this as well. Big men are always taught to catch
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  Speaker 3: the ball high, keep it high. And maybe it's because
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  Speaker 3: he's got those big Hamburger helper Oven mits that makes
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  Speaker 3: it a whole lot easier. But whenever he gets the ball,
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  Speaker 3: the ball never comes down. So like when he's grabbing
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  Speaker 3: these offensive rebounds, it's he's catching the ball high and
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  Speaker 3: he's keeping it high.
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  Speaker 2: There's not let me bring it down.
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  Speaker 3: That was something I was saying Shawn May would struggle
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  Speaker 3: with where he'd catch it, let me pull it down,
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  Speaker 3: then try to go back up and score. That's that's
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  Speaker 3: there's a touch around the basket too. Definitely, that I
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  Speaker 3: think is is really really good for how young he is.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about his role a little bit later on
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  Speaker 3: in the show. Not that was one of the topics
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  Speaker 3: you sent me wait to set that up late last night.
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  Speaker 3: I like that baby. But here, his rebound is going
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  Speaker 3: to get him on the floor because everything that we
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  Speaker 3: were told coming out of college about what he was
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  Speaker 3: as a rebounder, it's summer League the markets translated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes after it, dude, it's personal. Man, he
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  Speaker 1: wants that ball. And I know we've said it before.
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  Speaker 1: I see tons of hornets folks saying on Twitter. But
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  Speaker 1: just the idea of him and Musa on the floor
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  Speaker 1: together and hornet shooters outside, just and those two guys
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  Speaker 1: go get it in case it does miss. But the difference,
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  Speaker 1: it is interesting to think about the difference with Steinbach
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  Speaker 1: is that if he if he gets the offensive rebound,
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  Speaker 1: we'll go back up. You're not gonna still go Musso.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Moosa's gonna be there to get those those
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  Speaker 3: dirty boards, those energy boards, and you want him.
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  Speaker 2: To kick the ball back out for for threes.
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  Speaker 3: But with Steinbach, you're gonna want him if he gets
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  Speaker 3: offensive rebounds eight feet and end you if he goes
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  Speaker 3: back up. You're not gonna be upset about it, like
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  Speaker 3: you're not gonna be holding your holding your breath, like
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna expect him to make those shots.
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  Speaker 1: Now, let's not knock the kickout offensive rebound three. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not right. Do you have to call Jay Billis and
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  Speaker 1: ask him when the best chance to shoot time to
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  Speaker 1: shoot a three is off an offensive rebound? Come on now, baby,
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  Speaker 1: But yes, I do think he would do it a
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  Speaker 1: little differently. But he's shown some a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: passing ability, flashes of passing ability. Hasn't really shot it
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  Speaker 1: from outside, but he had a moment where he was
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  Speaker 1: at the three point line, got closed out, pump faked it,
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  Speaker 1: drove it, he didn't finish. But like, there's there's more
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  Speaker 1: there there, There's there's stuff there to grow in his game.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of catching it outside. He can put it
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  Speaker 1: on the floor a couple of times. He has good
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  Speaker 1: body control when he gets it off a roll or
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  Speaker 1: off a couple of dribbles. So yeah, yeah, Steinbach. I
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  Speaker 1: think he gotta be excited about Steinboy. Christian Anderson will
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  Speaker 1: talk about more later. I still worry about the size
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. He looks small. He definitely does. And
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  Speaker 1: that's in summer league, so imagine what's gonna look like
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  Speaker 1: in the real games. So and there's also just he
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  Speaker 1: got himself into some moments turning it over under pressure,
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  Speaker 1: had a got blitzed on a ball screen, try to
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  Speaker 1: spin like right into the double and ended up losing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yet another one where he lost out by half court.
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  Speaker 1: So he's adjusted. It's that's far from, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: finished product. Obviously, definitely want to talk about Will Greer today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later this hour. He ends up retiring,
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  Speaker 1: so he joins the hometown Panthers, has not thrown a
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  Speaker 1: pass in seven years in the NFL, and it looks
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  Speaker 1: like he's thrown his last pass because he has retired.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that as the show continues. Haines
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  Speaker 1: King fans, Haines King fans, you can tip one back today,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know, and that means you be Bob,
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  Speaker 1: It means you. I don't think Will Greer was ever
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  Speaker 1: threatening for the backup spot. I think it was just
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  Speaker 1: a matter of do they keep three veterans. But we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into it. We'll get into it coming up this
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  Speaker 1: hour on the MAC and bone show with a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of panther talk coming up.
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  Speaker 1: What another absolute classic of a game at this World
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  Speaker 1: Cup is just been banger of a game after banger
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  Speaker 1: of a game. And yesterday you had England and Argentina.
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  Speaker 1: The first half was absolutely like watching a I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: bad Boys Pistons basketball game back in the day, I
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  Speaker 1: mean first fall. Full disclosure, I hate this Argentina team.
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  Speaker 1: I hate them. There are so many damn punks on
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  Speaker 1: this team. It's just that you sold the way they
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  Speaker 1: played in the first half, and the fact they did
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  Speaker 1: not get a yellow card in the first half after
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  Speaker 1: all that shit had against is ridiculous. But that's what
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  Speaker 1: they do a lot of the time. But England was
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  Speaker 1: a to get the lead on an amazing finish by Gordon.
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  Speaker 1: But then England decide, oh, we're good. We can play
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  Speaker 1: the defending champs with the best player in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the sport, and we can make defensive substitutions, and
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  Speaker 1: we can park the bus all the way back near
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  Speaker 1: to damn goal and just invite Messi to run the
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  Speaker 1: game from right outside the box with space. And that
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  Speaker 1: idea ended up being horrendous Argentina gets two goals in
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  Speaker 1: the six minute stretch. Down the stretch, including the game winner.
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  Speaker 1: Messi had assist on both of the goals, including the
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous right foot cross. He's left footed and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter to him right foot cross to Martinez for the finish.
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  Speaker 1: They are losing their minds in England on manager Thomas
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  Speaker 1: Thomas Tukel right now, Fitti.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd asked you if you thought he was gonna
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  Speaker 3: end up getting fired.
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  Speaker 1: He says, I've got to keep coaching. The problem is
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  Speaker 1: you don't make that call, big dog.
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  Speaker 2: No, he does not.
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  Speaker 1: Mac.
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  Speaker 2: I was so like, so conflicted watching this match yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you would have been so giddy. The
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  Speaker 1: way you were hating on England yesterday, I thought you
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  Speaker 1: would be thrown in my face.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not the Messi hater that Willie p is, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily, I don't necessarily like the guy like
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  Speaker 3: I was wanting England to win just so we could
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  Speaker 3: get the messy story out of here and then I
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  Speaker 3: could watch England, you know, fall on the big stage
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday and the World Cup final. But as Messi
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  Speaker 3: is doing what Messi does in the final what's seventeen
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  Speaker 3: minutes or so where the final few minutes of a
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  Speaker 3: regular time that what they did in the beginning of stoppage,
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  Speaker 3: Tod was like, if it doesn't stop you in your
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  Speaker 3: tracks and take your breath away, then you don't enjoy
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  Speaker 3: watching greatness. And like that cross was sensational.
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  Speaker 2: It was beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. There's one thing to tip your hat and say
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  Speaker 1: the guy's amazing, but it's another thing to say, like,
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  Speaker 1: we can root against great players. Can't.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I did with Lebron James, I did it with
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 1: The majority you'd appreciate it, but also say, damn, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to lose. But you got to give them credit.
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  Speaker 1: They have this characteristic and that's why they're world champs.
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  Speaker 1: They have this characteristic where it look looks so many
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  Speaker 1: times in this tournament like they you know, didn't have it.
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  Speaker 1: We're in trouble, and they end up pulling the game
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  Speaker 1: out and showing that tough mentality and that resolve and
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  Speaker 1: every time, like John to give it to him man
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  Speaker 1: every time as the.
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  Speaker 3: Game was getting later and later in regulation and John
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  Speaker 3: Strong was like resetting the match fifteen minutes to go.
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  Speaker 3: Luss stoppage time. Does Argentina even need extra time while losing?
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  Speaker 3: So like even him and Stu Holden.
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  Speaker 1: Know it's just a matter of time, Like you know at.
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  Speaker 2: Some point they're going to strike.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they could have scored about three more goals. They
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  Speaker 1: hit the post twice and then Pickford had a ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: save on another one. Like by the way, they were
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  Speaker 1: allowing free crosses from dangerous positions over and over again,
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  Speaker 1: many of them from the greatest player and greatest passer
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  Speaker 1: in the history of the sport, Like you could just
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  Speaker 1: see it coming. And that's why I don't understand what
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  Speaker 1: England was doing. The best way I can describe it
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  Speaker 1: in American football terms is England, Fitty said earlier off
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  Speaker 1: the air. They went to zero of AO, right, meaning
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  Speaker 1: late game drive, we go into a soft defense. But
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  Speaker 1: they did it against the Rams, last year's Rams and
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  Speaker 1: MVP Matthew Stafford, and they did it with a one
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  Speaker 1: touchdown lead middle of the third quarter. See, that's the
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  Speaker 1: thing is it felt like they started that with thirty
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  Speaker 1: minutes left. You can't hold on against that great team
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  Speaker 1: and that player. By doing that for thirty minutes, you
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  Speaker 1: can do it against Mexico to a degree, and I
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  Speaker 1: still don't think it was that long, but like against
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  Speaker 1: that team, So anyway, man, they're losing it. Smoke texted
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  Speaker 1: me last night and smoke is far from soccer smoke. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so smoke is far right from a soccer die. He
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  Speaker 1: told me he was listening to two hours straight of
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  Speaker 1: Talk Sport, which is the national sports talk network in England,
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  Speaker 1: and he was just dying. They are losing their FN minds. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Makes you wonder if Fat Andy got in on the
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  Speaker 2: on the fold lunch over there, Jess his dad.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, there's a very good chance he was on
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: there calling for Twokle to be fired and ripping a
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  Speaker 1: referee of some sort. But what drama, though, Like, what
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  Speaker 1: damn drama. So it'll be Spain Argentina. What a classic matchup.
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  Speaker 1: That will be England's champs, South America's champs, defending World champs,
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  Speaker 1: reigning European champs. What a matchup. That's gonna be three
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: o'clock on Sunday. By the way, one of the dumbest
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: things in sports will happen on Saturday. Full disclosure. I
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  Speaker 1: will be there to watch it from start to finish,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: but they play the third place game. England and France
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  Speaker 1: play the third place game. These soccer players play what
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  Speaker 1: is the most grueling season in all of sports. They,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, fitty, the guys that will play, they're
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  Speaker 1: playing right now. We'll get three weeks vacation and then
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  Speaker 1: be told to report back for training and have about
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  Speaker 1: a week to prepare for the season. Like that's so,
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  Speaker 1: that is ridiculous. Though you talk about short off seasons.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is the most grueling of any sport.
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  Speaker 1: How long they make you go with your club team
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  Speaker 1: and your international team and they have to play a
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  Speaker 1: third place game. It's just dumb as hell. I'll watch
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of that third place game, though. It's
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  Speaker 1: dumb as hell.
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  Speaker 3: Mac until the twenty to thirty World Cup when the
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  Speaker 3: US men's national team is playing in the third place game.
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  Speaker 3: Then then becomes the biggest, the biggest soccer match. Wait in
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  Speaker 3: the American football history. Wait till, oh, yeah, we be
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  Speaker 3: fired off for a third place game, you kid me.
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  Speaker 3: Wait till though, we get a sixty fourteen World Cup
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  Speaker 3: and they're playing the seventh place game and the ninth
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  Speaker 3: place game. I don't remember when, but the final four
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  Speaker 3: used to do this where they would play a third
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  Speaker 3: place game in the old days, because I think that's
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  Speaker 3: when Bill Bradley the scoring record for a Final Four
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  Speaker 3: Final Four game way back when, and I know Carolina
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  Speaker 3: played a third place game during one of the early
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  Speaker 3: Final Four runs.
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  Speaker 1: Until nineteen seventy six. Yeah, that's when they cut it down. Mac.
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  Speaker 3: I sold this stat and I need you to verify this.
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  Speaker 3: So Messi had to assist in seven minutes yesterday. This
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: dude claims that that's the entire assist total for Christiano
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Ronaldo in his World Cup career.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: If who said that, it was just someone like the.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Commented underneath the tweet about Messi's like sixty fifth assist
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: as as a for for Argentina. But like, if that
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: stat holds up, how do Renauda fans debate debate the
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Messi thing like that? As someone that grew up arguing
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: for Ronaldo back when I was really big into soccer,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: like in twenty ten to twenty eleven, I was on
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: the Renado side of that debate.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: As this thing is is this thing is age?
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to assists in thirty games in a way to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: in his career looks like no, no, maybe not Maybe
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that's that might not be it. I'll have to look
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that up. I've looked up to make sure. But listen,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: there's no debate anymore. It's just it's anybody who tries
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to argue with you Ronaldo's the goat. You laugh them
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the hell out of the building. I mean, Messi is
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to your point, Messi is an elite goal scorer and
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: elite creator, might be the best passer ever. Ronaldo way
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: more one dimensional terms of score. And by the way,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: just look at how things have been going, say the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: last five years, Messi does not appear to have lost
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: much at all. It's dominating World Cups. It's just it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, it's it's I mean, it annoys me
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: when people argue for Lebron. But at least I can
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: understand why that argument is there Lebron an MJ. That
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: goat argument is just I don't even understand how with
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: a straight face Rinaldo fans could still say that. By
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the way, also need to mention that last night Caitlyn
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Clark got mad at a referee again. Why wash Rinson
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: repeat and listen, I had this on the second TV.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I talk about this all the time I watched the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: fever a ton fitty. I like Caitlyn Clark. I root
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: for Caitlyn Clark. They got beat last night by Golden State.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if you saw the play.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: It just kind of feels like they bumped legs, but
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like down low. She hit a shot, she
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: wanted to end one. She limped back. I believe it
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was FIFA type acting. I believe it was soccer type acting.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: As she limped back, she got in the face of
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this referee and is m effin right in her face.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Gets no technical, by the way, and then after the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: game goes off on how she didn't get a call.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I had to play the rest of the game with
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a leg contusion. And it's just I gotta tell you,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: she is a big old fat winer. Like I root
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: for her. I wish she would tone down the wine
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: in a little bit. I have always said that I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of calls she doesn't get.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But my god, she's like, she goes Luca, she goes
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Luca donchezill.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm in your camp where I enjoy watching her play,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Like if you want to make me care about. The
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: w NBA put her on and I'm more in you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I'm more acclimated to maybe watch. But mac, the the conversation,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the discord around her, it's it's exhausting because it feels
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: like it's it's every week there's something that happens, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: sometimes it's been justified where she hasn't gotten a call.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: The flagrant, the fact that it took did you hear
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: did you hear?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yesterday?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Adam Silver reportedly had to tell Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that's a flagrant foul on Kaitlyn Clark when she uh
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: puts her fist into Caitlyn's neck, you might want to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: suspend that girl like that. That what a what an
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: out to lunch commissioner the w NBA has. But anyway,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I digress. Well, here's my thing. Here's my thing about
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: my fellow Caitlyn Clark. Fans happened again on Sunday night.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: She had a moment, she was whining she was won
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and got called for a foul and Chelsea Gray I think, yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Chelsea Gray was the player that drew the foul and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: she was kind of like flexing or something. Right, Well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: apparently she got racial abuse online, shared the screenshot online
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the person that racially abused her, and I'm sure it's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a Kitlyn Clark fan. Happens over and over and got
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: fired by her employer because of it. But like, seriously,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: my fellow Caitlyn Clark fans, enough of the racist abuse
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of people who dare get into a conflict with your
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: clean Like it's just it's despicable and pathetic, and honestly,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: at some point Kaitlyn Clark should come out and say
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: something to her fan base. But like, anyway, I just
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but anyway, yeah, that happened again last night. But you're right,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it feels like you can't have a game without some
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: big to do about Caitlyn Clark. And oh, by the way,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Paige Becker just balls out over there. She's over there,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: balling out, playing actually better. I love Caitlin, but playing better,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and there doesn't seem to be near as much to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: do f our attention. But anyway, all right, I digress, Fitty,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I digress. I feel good though. I feel like we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: covered a lot in that first segment. But you know
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: what's coming up. We more on Will Greer retiring and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: what the Panthers might do. I saw veteran QB watch
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: already starting up on Panthers Twitter. But next we got
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to talk about day one of the ACC media days.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: NC State's talking a big game. You've got the Darien
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Mensa situation as he spoke yesterday, and of course Jim
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Phillips had a new ACC tiebreaker. We'll talk about it all.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: We need is alpha leader. That's what I am right now,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: and that's what I gotta be for us to win
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: more games. You know, I gotta be consistent every day,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: come in a building with the same monset every day,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: which is I want to win ACC Championship. We want
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: to win ACC Championship. So poor into my guys every
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: day like I've been doing so, you know, taking that
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: next step until my leadership growing it even more like
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: every every every year, every day has got to go
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: go even better for the program.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: There you go. Sports Radio ninety two seven w fn
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Z CJ.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Bailey.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: One of the storylines from day one here in Charlotte
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: at ACC ME to days is Dave Doran CJ. Bailey
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: representing the pack. We're talking a big game. You hear
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: him talking about wanting to lead his team and instill
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the attitude of we want to be ACC champions. Dave
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Doran was talking about ACC at ACC championship, something that
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the Pack have not done since nineteen seventy nine. They
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: were talking big game. Dorn's got this hole meat on
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the bone slogan, and we've left meat on the bone,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: meaning we've got to go out there and win a championship.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: So this is going to be talking. I'm very curious
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to see what NC State fans say about this. Is
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: there going to be a state fan eye roll? Or
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: are State fans going to look at their schedule and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: say they've got the easiest schedule in the ACC based
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: on numerous different metrics, whether it's ESPN's FPI. Phil Steele
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: has them as a seventy sixth rank schedule in the country.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: They don't play Miami SMU or Clemson, and they get
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Louisville at home. Like this, We're going to have to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: talk some state football today, Fitty, And I'm sure your
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: wise cracks are going to be out there out in
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: about I'm sure.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll get my digs.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: In as we move as we make our way through
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the show, and rightfully so because for program that hasn't
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: even played it an ACC title game, to be talking
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: about championships, I do think is a little hyperbolic, But
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I will tell you this, Mac. I thought Dorin had
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a different energy to himself yesterday as compared to how
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: he usually carries himself, where he's very monotone, oh mundane,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: very boring. I think I was talking about it with
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Bernie Bulls down the hall from BT, who's a big
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: state guy. I think he looks re energized, I think,
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: and I think he I think he knows he's got
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: he's got a good team, and I think he likes
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: his team as opposed to some of the teams here recently,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: where I don't know if he necessarily liked them in terms.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Of just the way they definitely two years ago, the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: under whatever that was, the underachieving transfer portal, huge money
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: spent year. Yeah, like that team. I'm sure that team
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: annoyed the living crap out of him, but there was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a bounce in his step, there were jokes being made,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and it's easier to be.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: That way when you know what you when you have
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: when you have CJ.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Bailey at quarterback, who I think you know We saw
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: mcshaye talking about him the other daybout how he raved
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and performed at the Manning Passing Academy. Mack, if he
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: puts up the numbers that he put up last year,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: but even builds off those numbers, the national hype around
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: him is going to continue to grow. He might be
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the most underrated, most undervalued quarterback in all college football
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: during the season. And this was coming from a Carolina fan.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: This man whether that watched him kick my team's ass,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: we will.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Dorn said it having a third year quarterback
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in your system. And I know they made a change
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: last year to Roper at Oc, but Roper was there previously, right,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So it's just the continuity at that position. Not many
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: teams get that. That's a huge advantage. The schedule, I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: telling you, is very tempting. So anyway, I want, I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: want to leave some meat on the bone, just like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Dave Doran says they have. But at seven o'clock we
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: got a call aull you wil Peck friends, I get
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: him around the radio, get him listening on a WF
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and z app because at seven o'clock we got to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: talk about whether or not all that swagger yesterday was
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: justified or and even non State fans like, do you
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: look at it and say, yeah, there's a case they
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: could be pretty damn good. Or do you roll your
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: eyes when you hear Dorin and Bailey talk about that?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: So we got to get into that now. Mike Norvell
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was an interesting guy yesterday as well at ACC media Days,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: because everybody wants to talk about his job status and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: his job security and to his I guess say, to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: his credit. I mean, what's he gonna say. I mean
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that he's won seven games at Florida State over the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: last two years, So I guess, Fitty, you can't exactly
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: not say this. But he did admit yesterday, Hey man,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: he did say, I don't feel like I'm coaching for
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: my job, which if I'm a Florida State fan, he
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: better be coaching for his damn job, right. That ain't
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the standard, That ain't close to it. But he did admit, Hey,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: we got to be better than we've been.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: As college football has changed, as it's you know, as
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: this continue to evolve, you know we have to be better.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: And you know, this past season we showed glimpses of
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: playing at at a very, very high level. You know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: had some big wins, some you know, you know, very
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: some great moments, but also had some disappointing results in
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: some close games and just opportunities that we did not
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: capitalize on. So it's not about me giving a great speech.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Or trying to trying to say the things.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: It's about you know, what we're going to show up
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: to be willing to do.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: There's you can't say anything other than that. I mean,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you win two games one year, five games the next
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: year at Florida State, you are you are failing. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I know that he has some you know, collateral in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the bank for the two previous seasons, especially the one
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: before the last two. But if I'm a Knowles fan,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: there has to be a standard, matter of fact, Knowles fan.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Former Knowles quarterback Danny Knell himself yesterday on CBS Sports
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: HQ CBS Sports dot Com said, Hey, I know exactly
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: what the number is too that he has to win
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to save his job. Katie.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's any pressure whatsoever on Mike Norvel
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: because I think he knows exactly what he has to do.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, if they don't get to eight wins, he's fired.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, well, I think we're coming out with a
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: list today. There have been lists alid off season about
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: who's hot, who's on the hottest hot seat. Mike Norvell
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: is everybody's hotest seat. Like everyone out there looks at
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Florida State and says, if he doesn't get better, if
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: they don't improve, he's done. So like I don't like
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: from that standpoint, you know exactly what you have to do,
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: and I think that's where Mike Norvell has to respond
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: to that pressure, and he's got to, I think, tap
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: into the locker room of sort of us against the
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: world mentality. Nobody expects us to do anything. Everyone's thinking,
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get fired. Our own fan base I think
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: is part of that Us against the world because the
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: fan base wants Mike Norvel fired. So I think you
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: have to try to embrace that in that locker room.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: And he's been pointing out today some of the one
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: possession losses, which I do think is something that you
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: should point out. But the bottom line is he knows
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: this is a job at Florida State where the standard
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: is higher than the last two seasons, and he has
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: to do better or else they'll be looking for a
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: new coach.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I love the way Kanal is like he's talking to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think Katie Mox, I think is the host that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: he's talking to about the pressure he's under. I don't
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: think he's under any pressure. And then he goes on
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to say, but if he doesn't win eight games, he's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: gonna lose his How's that not pressure? Well, and he
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: should be under pressure. A men's freaking pressure. Man.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I think I understand what he was trying to say,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: where like like Norvell just knows.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: What it is.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But if you you can know what you have to do,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: but there's still pressure because if you don't do it,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you're fired.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I don't it's semantics.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna say about pressure, pressure makes diamonds? Mac?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: What about what Brinson Butner has said about pressure, pressure
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: makes a monkey eat a hot pepper.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I've never heard that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's an all time Brentson Buckner classic man. Yeah, that's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: right up there with Steven Jackson and his quote that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: used to say he made love to pressure. Those are
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: those are the two greatest quotes and Charlotte sports history
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: about pressure fitting anyway, what were you saying? I don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: know how we got there, but I enjoyed that.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: What does it say about Clemson and Florida State with
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: a state of their programs or like you said the
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: other day, where if Clemson went eight and four, you
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: would you could almost justify that as a good season
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: with the question that has a quarterback and that if
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: if Mike Norvel wins eight games at Florida State, that
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: would be enough to save his job. These are these
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: are programs that have one championship.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: They've competed for championships.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: We're not too far removed from people being outraged at
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Florida State without their backup quarterback was left out of
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the playoff.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: But if Mike Norval wins eight games.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Oh it's okay. He can stay. And by the way,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: that's a very good point, Like you could even ask
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: should that even be the standing now? The stand to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: be higher if they win eight games this year. You
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: know what he's averaged over a three game sample, her
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: three season sample, five wins a season. Yeah, Oh my god.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: That's that's not meeting the standard that that Bobby Bouten
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: sat there in Tallahassee. I do wonder, though, Mac, when
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: you look at that Florida state vacancy or the potential
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: vacancy there.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: And we get told all the time how they're they're
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: they're kind of stripped for cash. How much has Dion
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: struggling at Colorado?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Because I think I thought it all along ahead had
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: he hit at Colorado, Yeah, if he didn't go to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: if if you go to the NFL, he would just
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he would just take his cowboy hat and get on
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: renegade's and uh and and and be the Florida state
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: head coach.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I do wonder how his struggles may be impacted.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: What they want to do, that is a good point,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: and who they want to today?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: You on fire today over there fitting with the Bone
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: man out. Uh, we have to mention the A C. C.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Tiber And by the way, it's gonna be a ton
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: acc talk all day the conferences in town with media
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: days day two today Clemson. So you hear from Davil,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you hear from KB and Bone's favorite coach James Franklin
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: today as well. Kb's gonna have Franklin on the show.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So we got Jeff Broum and Louisville. So we've got
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: some interesting I got bad Bone.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: By the way, what's that Bailey declined an invitation to
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: take Bone to Blacksburg.
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: I asked him yesterday, are you a road trip? And
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: he said no, no, Bailey's life. I am not taking
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: you to my people. I will not be seen with
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: a hokey Bone in front of real, true hoky fans.
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: Oh that's cold, that is cold.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: He did seem though, when Bone and I were hyping
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: up how good James Franklin will do at Virginia Tech.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: He did text in and seemed happy about it. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: he just does it. He doesn't want Bone involved in
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: any road trips. We can say nice things about him,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: but don't don't plan on him picking us up early
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: What does it say about Bone that Bailey would rather
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: take Smoke to Blacksburg than Bone to Blacksburg.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: That's cold?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Why you RiPP for poor smoke man?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Those more of a shot at Bone?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, Bailey.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: In that case, any man that gets bullied by his
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: dogs don't man.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Built for Blackbird.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: All right, Let me mention the this acc tiebreaker change,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: because yesterday we were discussing like hadn't heard anything about this?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Are they definitely gonna do it? If they're going to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: change the ACC tiebreaker after their tiebreaker last year almost
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: cost them having a team in the field at all. Right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Miami Squeeze is in over Notre Dame. But it got
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: real dicey there. Sure enough, they do have the tiebreaker change,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and they did announce it yesterday. Initially, Jim Phillips just
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: kind of explained in very general terms, right, like, it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be head to head first, it's gonna be then
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: about your general body of work, and you're not gonna
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: be penalized for you know, if because we have this
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: whole thing where five teams this year play eight games
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: in conference and nine teams play nine. And he said,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be penalized, you know, for win
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: loss totals against teams that play a different amount of games.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: But then we had to see the the tiebreaker formula, right,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and not just this general you know, commission speak about it.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's interesting. I definitely think most of the time it'll
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: achieve what they want to, which is not having you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: team that is definitively their best team not playing in
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the ACC championship game. Here's how it's going to work, Fitty,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It will be head to head, will be the first
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: tie breaker. Then after that they go to the team's
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: success rankings from Sports Source analytics. This is like an
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: analytic number. This is like basically like a computer computer
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: system deciding which teams play. I guess their feeling is
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: there's a couple things. My first reaction to that was,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: why don't you just use the playoff rankings and if
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you have teams ranked in the playoff, go with your
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: highest ranked playoff team, because that's what would have solved
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the Miami thing last year. I heard David Hale bring
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: up a good point on ACC Network yesterday. Going the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: week final week of the regular season, right Thanksgiving weekend
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: plays out, the committee does not put out their rankings
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: until Tuesday night. The ACC definitely can't wait till Tuesday
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: night to name a team in the championship game. So
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I maybe that's part of the reasoning here. They had
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to find another ranking system to kind of use that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they believe will put their best team in there. Those
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: rankings fit your updated right after Saturday's games, So maybe
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that's what it is. Although I would wonder could you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: get word from the from the committee on where the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: ACC teams what order? Just the ACC teams would be
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: ranked on like a Sunday. I don't know. The analytics
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: thing is kind of goofy. Here's the goofiest part of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the whole thing, though, Fitty, is because we have this
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: stupid thing where they have seventeen teams and they're trying
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to go to a nine game schedule. Well this year,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it's like this this year. Starting
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: next year, one team will play eight games every year
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and it'll rotate. Different team every year will play eight games,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the rest will play nine. This year, five teams, including
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Clemson Carolina are playing only eight games. The rest are
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: playing nine. So in order to deal with that oddity,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: they set this thing up so if you have the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: same amount of wins with somebody, you are tied with them.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So a seven and two conference team and a seven
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to one conference team Fitty are tied and have to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: go to the tiebreaker. A one loss, seven and one
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and eight and one are ti and eid and one
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: are tied. But here's my question, what if it's a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: three is it a three way tie? Then if you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: have eight and one, seven and one and seven and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: two are they all tied together? Is it a three
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: way tie, Like, I still have questions. Man, it's still
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: pretty damn convoluted fit.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a brilliant idea.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Make everyone play nine conference games.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: They can't though, Like, I guess why can't they because
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of the way the math works out with seventeen teams,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you can't have everybody play nine.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Well, then just add another team.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I mean he noted, day, oh, yeah, that's right, but
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you're too good for that. Now.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: The the analytic tool, I guess to the defense.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Of it was he did say that that was a
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: metric that the playoff committee does.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: You they do, and the Mount West has been using
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: this as a tiebreaker for a little while too.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So it's not it's not unheard of.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know how open fans are to having more
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: analytics involved in how we determine who plays who. You
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: see it in college basketball, like the wins above, bubble
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: stats become a big thing in the tournament about how
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: they try to decide bubble teams they get into. Now,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the field of seventy six, it just can't be easy,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Like it's always with this league. It's always it's always something.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying. I need an answer. At some point,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: we need an answer to my question, eight and one
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: is tied with seven and one. Seven and one under
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: these rules is tie with seven and two. So is
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: eighteen one and seven and two. Were they in a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: three way tie or the exceparate two way tie? It's
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: just my head hurts man acc anyway, we'll talk that
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: through later. Gooch Grundleman is on fire this morning. He
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: has called English coach Thomas two Ukula don knots looking
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: fraud and he also has taken a shot to p Man,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: saying P Man thinks Norvell gets double digit wins here?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: What a pm is that? When this whole down downfall
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: started for Norvel? When p Man said he's the next
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: coach to get his first natty, that would be correct.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: That was p man curse. I'm not the only one.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: The summer before dj Ugi La became their their quarterback.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: God all right, anyway, we'll break so p Man, Thomas
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Tukele catching strace feels free astray us all here seven
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: O four, five, seven, nine, six y ten. When we
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: come back, Will Greer is retiring. So the Panthers are
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: down to three qbs. Is it worth looking up who
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: veteran qbs are for Eder Free Agents Sports Radio ninety
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: two to seven WFNZ. You've got to send it out
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: A boy to my man. Scottie Scheffler trying to bounce
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: back from his first miss cut in four years at
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the Scottish Open last week. He's four under through six.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: He is at the top of the lead board. Now.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: It is extremely early, right, but this is a good
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: sign for nothing. Caring over for Scotty from last week.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: He is four under through six. So a great starts
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: over there at Royal Birkdale in a tournament that I
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: prefer to call the British Open, but Fitty screams at
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: me every time I do, because it's the Open Championship.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: I love the Open Championship. It's we have the Masters,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: and I love the Masters. This is my favorite major.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: It's my favorite major in golf, and I want you
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: to call it by it's appropriate name.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, in America we have our own
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Open Championship, the US Open, So I feel like I
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: am not giving in. They want to be the Open Show.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: What are they? The the Ohio State like the Ohio
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: State University. They want to be the Open Championship. Yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you could call it that. Over there. But I'm in
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: America where we have the US Open Championship, so I'm
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: gonna call it the British Open. I'm not going to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: distinguish that you are the Open Championship. See where I'm
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: coming from, Fettie, It's the birthplace of golf over there.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: They invented the sport. I think it's okay for them
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: to studize.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So snooty English people with golf are okay. But
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: other English snooty people you can't stand.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Golf and tennis people because the chance you Wimbledon, I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: prefer to be referred to as the championships Wimbledon, not
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: just Wimbledon.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You are very hard to figure out, man. I'm still
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: trying to figure you. You are a You're a giant
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: British hater, but you defend the tennis and golf snootiness
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I got. You are a you know what, you are
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a complex man, Fitty Marlowe and I will figure you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: out right here live on the radio, and hopefully it'll
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: be entertaining anyway. Thomas Dietree is three under. The German golfer.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Robert McIntyre, Scottish golfer, also at three under Alex Smalley
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: is the second highest American on the board. He's a
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: three under. Bryson de Shambo two under, so good start
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: for Bryson. I would love it if Bryson and Scotty
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: both play well. Bryson is entertaining when he's in the mix,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: So there you go. Alex Fitzpatrick's been playing very good.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: He's at one under, So there you go. Let's keep
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you up to date on whatever you prefer to call it,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the Open Championship or the British Open. Will Greer, we'll
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: have some time on his hands to watch golf if
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: he wants to now or do whatever he wants to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Will Greer it now. It was an now Jesse on Panthers
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: dot com. He is retiring. He had been a part
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: of that quarterback room since joining really right before the draft,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: right because they ended up acquiring Haines King as an
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, kind of right after they acquired Will Greer.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Now Fitty, I don't think there's ever been a battle
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: for the number two spot. I think it was pretty
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: clear Kenny Pickett was brought in to be Bryce Young's backup.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought the question was would they spend
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a roster spot on a third QB, and would they
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: want a third veteran like Will Greer or would they
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: either try to practice squad Haines King or keep Haynes
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: King on the active roster. I have to be honest
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: with you, I never really understood Will Greer's place here
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: because I feel like you don't need two veteran backups
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to Bryce. And I'm not on here trying to act
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like we've got one of the best backups in the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: business in Kenny Picken. I'm not really saying that, but
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I think he's your backup, and I think you want
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a young guy as your third QB. I think the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: only question is do you use an active roster spot
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: or do you try to chance it and kind of
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: keep him hanging on that practice squad in case he's needed.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Because Panther fans were out there,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and I think it was the Panthers wire site put
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: an article out about here's the backup quarterbacks that are
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a free agent, you know, kind of vet quarterbacks, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: there's not much really, you know, there's not a lot
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: of them to get excited about. I'm not sure they
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: need anything other than maybe one extra camp arm.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I guess yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: When I got stopped in my tracks yesterday with the
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Will Greer news, the first thing I did not do
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: was go look up other veteran qbs to add to
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the roster. The Haines King situation, I think is very
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: interesting because he's he's he said all the right things
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: back during rookie mini camp, like when he was asked, hey,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: would you be willing to play like a Taysom Hill role?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: And I do think there could be like some value
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: in Mac him having some special package, especially down in
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: the red zone. With his ability to run the football.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: You could put him in some unique formations and utilize
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: him as a runner. But when you look at how
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: how these teams go about building their their forty five
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: man rosters to turn into fifty three man rosters when
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: you get to game days, you don't see a lot
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: of three active qbs anymore.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: You see, it's it's a lot of two.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: You have the emergency quarterback designation, and then of course
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: you can have the practice squad. So I think in
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: an idea world, Mac you want him on the practice squad.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: You run the risk of someone else coming in and
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: signing him off your practice squad, which is why I
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: think preseason is going to be really important for him,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: because if he shows that he could maybe do some
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: special things and have a sort of a unique role,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: maybe they value him being on the active roster. But
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: as I sit here today, I would feel a lot
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: more confident if that roster spot was used at another
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: area where we need some depth as opposed to quarterback.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. The only question is do they
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: fear they would lose Hainesking and do they want to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: make sure they keep them around. I think that's he
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't drafted, so I think I might try to practice
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: squad him as well, because I do think you want
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to have that young developmental guy there. I think you
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: do want to see if you have something with them.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I think practice squad is probably the best way to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: go as well. Fitty you are, people are getting out
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the mop for you right now. On Asle one, we
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: had a text that said the aisle you're cleaning up
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: should be the aisle of the hour the show you're in.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: So I like that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we should do, so clean up
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: on one. Golf was invented in Scotland. According to many
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: texters Fitty, including our guy English Paul. So there you go,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: not invented in England but invented in Scotland.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Well that's all like.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: One whole thing, right, that's another reason why you got
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: you've got you've got England, but then you've got Great
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Britain where you've got all these countries that are connected
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that combined.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Get get get out of here. It was invented over there.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: They came there as there as the.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Open Championship people, all you people in the United Kingdom,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you're all the same. Oh God, don't get me involved
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: in that fitty anyway, and shocking development. Myron Goodman fitty
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: agrees with you and not me. He has argued two
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: things with me today so far already and we're one
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: hour into the show. Has Myron Goodman ever sent a
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: text in to agree with anything I said? He argues
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: with me more than missus Mac does. The problem is
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you you're right, Myron. I don't
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: have to go home with you and thank the Lord
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: for that. This texter, though, agrees with you and Myron Mac.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: It a fitty is technically correct, Yes, he's technically correct.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It's the Open championship. Another Texter says it's hundred sixty
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: six years old. What I am saying is, I'm pretty
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: damn sure. As I was growing up, it was called
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: the United States the British Open, and I believe some
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: people still call it that to distinguish between the two
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: here in America. That's all I'm trying to say. All Right,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit younger than you. We don't need
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to get into those particulars. You know, you're twenty four
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: years or so.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, you're you're in your mid to
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: late fifties. I'm in my late twenties. Mac.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I never heard it referred to as the British Open
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: growing up, like when I.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Got in America, in this country, when I got some
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: bit over there, I'm talking about it in this country.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Like, well, when I would watch golf with my dad
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: because my dad, my Dad's used to.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Be a really big sports center. And someone says, let's
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: go the highlights of the Bridge, it was always just
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the Open champions Come on now, come on during the broadcast. Yes,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: but outside media, are you kidding me? I don't know anyway,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Let's move along here, let's move along. How about this
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: you had. I believe it was twenty three wide receivers
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: get a vote in the ESPN Daily. They were released
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a position every day, and it is Jeremy Fowler surveying coaches, executives,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and scouts. And despite the fact that t mac as
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a rookie was eleventh in receiving yards last year, did
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: not get a single vote. I didn't expect him fitty
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: to be in the top ten panther. He did not
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: cently someone's not respected a panther. He did not get
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a single vote, and there was like twenty three wide
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: receivers that at least got one single vote. That was
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: kind of surprising to me. This is a dude that
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: ranked in what the top ninety of the NFL Player's
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: poll and doesn't get in the top twenty three wide receivers. Essentially,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I was surprised by that.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: It's very odd.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Guy that was the offensive rookie of the year, as
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: you mentioned, not only made the NFL Top one hundred,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: but was inside the top ninety. But when he gets
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to this particular voting list, he doesn't get at least
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: one vote, when twenty three other wide receivers were able
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: to cast at least a single vote. But look, hopefully
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: he saw this. Hopefully this motivates him and he you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: when he reports the camp next week, he's ready. He's
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: ready to kick. He's ready to kick some mask because
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I I really do wonder, Mac, how much the eight
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: and nine stuff plays a role in how much like
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: the respect this team has gotten. Like we've seen it
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: show up a little bit, but there's been some other
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: areas where I think they haven't gotten the respect that
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: they should have gotten.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Despite making the playoffs, winning the division.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: He had a great rookie season and there were some
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: games he was our only source.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Of passing offense. It was just Bryce a t.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: MAC. That's the most impressive thing is until Cocher got
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: healthy and got flowing, it was often he's a mark
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: man and he asked to carry the load. Are you saying?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Eight nine? Eight and nine? Though Fitty has actually garnered
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: us more respect? Though I get what you're saying, dude.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: We didn't have one single player for a while there
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: on the player's list. Now we have three, at least three,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and we'll see if we get Devin Lloyd on there.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Understand what you're saying. Under the Panthers still not totally
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: get in respect. This seems to me more like a
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: rookie that has done it for only one year and
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the scouts executive coaches in their mind are like, do it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Keep doing it. You did it for one year, kid,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: but keep doing it. But I will point out, and
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I know it's not a perfect list and system, but
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: the players his peers thought enough of him as a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: rookie to rank in eighty seven, So that speaks speaks
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a lot. This dude, says Mac. When are you gonna
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: get over whining about Panthers and where they're ranked on lists?
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Training camp starts a week from the day. That's probably
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: when I'll get over it. When we actually I will
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: tell you shamelessly or not shameless, I don't know. Do
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I have shame or not have shame? I don't know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: But I will tell you on that yes, this stuff.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Because we care so much about football, I get way
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: too into this crap and then football starts and it's
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like who cares where we were ranked? I will full disclosure,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: full disclosure.