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- 0:07Speaker 1: The San Diego Patres have added Buddy Black and Will Myers.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Welcome the twenty fifteen I am Marty Caswell. That is
- 0:14Speaker 1: Kyle Glazer. We here on the Friar Territory Network, part
- 0:17Speaker 1: of Fowl Territory TV.
- 0:19Speaker 2: And that is.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Harry Buddy Black, Buddy, how are you today?
- 0:23Speaker 2: And my friend I am It's so good to see
- 0:25Speaker 2: you again.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I am shocked to see you back in this capacity,
- 0:28Speaker 1: but welcome back to San Diego.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Well, thank you Marty, Hi Kyle, it's good to be back.
- 0:34Speaker 3: I'm excited, you know. I You know, when you spend
- 0:39Speaker 3: time in an organization, whether as a player, a coach,
- 0:44Speaker 3: a manager, you know, those organizations you know you have
- 0:48Speaker 3: an investment in, right, there's a there's a piece of
- 0:51Speaker 3: you that is part of them. And in coming back
- 0:55Speaker 3: here obviously managing this team for you know, eight plus seasons,
- 1:02Speaker 3: you know, a big part of me is a padre
- 1:04Speaker 3: and always will be. So to get reunited with with
- 1:09Speaker 3: the organization, it feels great. I think it's a good fit.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I've had great conversations with a j and Josh Stine
- 1:20Speaker 3: over the last couple of months, and you know, we
- 1:23Speaker 3: got together formally, you know, over the last couple of months,
- 1:27Speaker 3: and obviously it was announced yesterday. I mean over the
- 1:29Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, and it was announced yesterday. So
- 1:32Speaker 3: I'm excited to be back and help. And I think
- 1:34Speaker 3: that you know, anybody in professional baseball who has a
- 1:40Speaker 3: competitive spirit wants only one thing, and that's to get
- 1:44Speaker 3: into the playoffs, get to the World Series, and ultimately
- 1:48Speaker 3: win the World Series. So hopefully I can help and
- 1:53Speaker 3: support and aid our organization in that endeavor.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Buddy, it's a very small fraternity of managers who were
- 2:01Speaker 4: former big league pitchers. Of course, you're a central figure
- 2:04Speaker 4: in that fraternity. Craig Stamon is a new member. Yeap,
- 2:07Speaker 4: What advice or words of wisdom would you have for
- 2:10Speaker 4: Craig that are maybe specific to the picture of making
- 2:12Speaker 4: the transition to managing.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Well, I've been asked out a lot, you know, even
- 2:17Speaker 3: going back to my days when I transitioned from Anaheim
- 2:21Speaker 3: to San Diego as from pitching coach to manager. And
- 2:25Speaker 3: I spoke with Craig a couple of weeks ago, and
- 2:29Speaker 3: you know, I basically told them. Even hear this before
- 2:32Speaker 3: from other people offering advice to to leaders, be yourself.
- 2:38Speaker 3: I mean, I think you have to be as genuine
- 2:40Speaker 3: and as authentic as possible. Major league players, you know,
- 2:46Speaker 3: have a knack to sniff out somebody who's not real.
- 2:50Speaker 3: And from everything I've been told about Craig, and even
- 2:54Speaker 3: in our conversation, I can tell that this guy's a
- 2:57Speaker 3: gym as well. Respect he's well liked. And if he
- 3:03Speaker 3: just goes out there and be and be Craig Stammon,
- 3:08Speaker 3: He's gonna be fine because I think he possesses the
- 3:10Speaker 3: leadership qualities. He possesses what it takes, you know, to
- 3:16Speaker 3: to lead a team. And I think that's been you know,
- 3:21Speaker 3: that's been validated. I think the last couple of years
- 3:23Speaker 3: that you know, he's come off the field and even
- 3:26Speaker 3: later in his career as a player, you know all
- 3:28Speaker 3: the things that I've heard, So again, he's gonna in
- 3:31Speaker 3: this day and age. You know, there's a there's a
- 3:35Speaker 3: big coaching staff. Coaching staff has coaching staff enlargement has
- 3:41Speaker 3: been real. He's got great coaches around him. He's going
- 3:46Speaker 3: to use them. I've told him to take advantage of
- 3:48Speaker 3: those guys. He's definitely going to relate to pitchers. Half
- 3:52Speaker 3: the team are pitchers, thirteen out of twenty six are
- 3:56Speaker 3: are our pitchers. But you know, his relaylationship with the
- 4:00Speaker 3: other thirteen guys I think will be solid because you know,
- 4:04Speaker 3: he was a player, and I think leadership, you know,
- 4:07Speaker 3: doesn't really reflect what position you played as a major
- 4:10Speaker 3: league it reflects what type of person you are in
- 4:14Speaker 3: that clubhouse.
- 4:16Speaker 1: All that being said, though, what's the biggest challenge he
- 4:18Speaker 1: is going to have? Not just I mean first not
- 4:21Speaker 1: just the first time manager, a first time coach in
- 4:23Speaker 1: major baseball.
- 4:25Speaker 3: You know, I think with with Craig, I think the
- 4:28Speaker 3: newness of all this will be the challenge. I mean,
- 4:31Speaker 3: every day there'll be something new for him to you know,
- 4:36Speaker 3: to handle. So uh but you know, for him, he's
- 4:42Speaker 3: been you know, in a role with the Padres where
- 4:46Speaker 3: he's been able to observe, you know, a lot of
- 4:48Speaker 3: different things from his perspective, the front office situation, field personnel,
- 4:57Speaker 3: interacting with players and and Craig's very astute and observant.
- 5:03Speaker 3: So he's taken this all in the last three or
- 5:07Speaker 3: four years since his retirement. Uh, but you still don't
- 5:10Speaker 3: know until you experience it. Uh, you know what it
- 5:13Speaker 3: takes to go through it, but you know it's a
- 5:17Speaker 3: it's a full day. I mean there's you know, there's
- 5:20Speaker 3: a you know, responsibility really from the time you wake up,
- 5:26Speaker 3: you know, coming from a lot of different angles, whether
- 5:29Speaker 3: front office, whether it could be ownership, whether it could
- 5:32Speaker 3: be the media, whether it could be the coaching staff,
- 5:34Speaker 3: whether it could be the players. You know, a lot
- 5:38Speaker 3: of different forces upon you. But uh, you've got to
- 5:42Speaker 3: be you got to be ready for it, right, You
- 5:43Speaker 3: got to be ready for anything. And so I think
- 5:45Speaker 3: the you know, the game of adjustments for a first
- 5:48Speaker 3: time managers is probably going to be as big as
- 5:50Speaker 3: challenge and be able to handle that tannel that on
- 5:53Speaker 3: a daily basis.
- 5:55Speaker 1: But you are the senior advisor to baseball ops. What
- 5:59Speaker 1: exactly does that job in tell and how do you
- 6:02Speaker 1: best describe how your relationship with AJ Proler has evolved
- 6:06Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the relationship first. You know, I
- 6:12Speaker 3: got to know a j right when he came on
- 6:14Speaker 3: board in the in the early fall of twenty fourteen.
- 6:21Speaker 3: So the relationship started then. And you know, again the
- 6:25Speaker 3: first time general manager, he had a lot going on.
- 6:27Speaker 3: You know, I was managing the team, but he had
- 6:31Speaker 3: to get his feet on the ground first. So and
- 6:35Speaker 3: he had a you know, a front office to assemble.
- 6:37Speaker 3: He had to meet a ton of people. You know,
- 6:40Speaker 3: that is a you know, a general manager or president
- 6:43Speaker 3: of baseball operations. That's a huge job. So you know,
- 6:49Speaker 3: we obviously communicated, were in contact because that's the nature
- 6:53Speaker 3: of his position in my position, so you know, everything
- 6:57Speaker 3: was fine. And then when I got let go in May,
- 7:01Speaker 3: you know, things obviously changed for both of us. He
- 7:04Speaker 3: was still you know, coordinating everything he needed to do
- 7:07Speaker 3: as a as a general manager and in building up
- 7:10Speaker 3: the franchise. And then I moved on to Anaheim and
- 7:13Speaker 3: moved on to Colorado. But in the in the years
- 7:17Speaker 3: it followed, uh you know, we would our past would
- 7:20Speaker 3: cross whether it was at Petco or cors Field or
- 7:24Speaker 3: in the winter time, and the relationship was always very
- 7:27Speaker 3: professional and cordial. And and getting to know him like
- 7:30Speaker 3: I did early on, uh you know, I uh, you know,
- 7:33Speaker 3: I really respected and admired his work, ethic, his passion
- 7:37Speaker 3: for baseball, how much he loved it, how much he
- 7:40Speaker 3: loved talking players, how much he loved scouting. I mean
- 7:43Speaker 3: that was evident you know in the you know, in
- 7:46Speaker 3: the months that we were together. And then you know,
- 7:48Speaker 3: I was doing my thing in Colorado, he was doing
- 7:51Speaker 3: his thing here. I mean we were just you know,
- 7:52Speaker 3: two you know, two baseball guys in a in a
- 7:55Speaker 3: in an industry that is, you know, in a lot
- 7:59Speaker 3: of ways, a small fraternity of men and women. So
- 8:02Speaker 3: with as it unfolded over the last few months, you know,
- 8:08Speaker 3: talking baseball again and in the possibility of a comeback,
- 8:12Speaker 3: it was very natural. Are are our conversations, you know,
- 8:17Speaker 3: because we both share you know, common likes. We like
- 8:20Speaker 3: to win, we like to watch players, we like to
- 8:25Speaker 3: help players, and and ultimately you know, trying to get
- 8:29Speaker 3: this organization into the playoffs again and advance to the
- 8:34Speaker 3: World Series and ultimately win one. I mean that's that's
- 8:37Speaker 3: a common goal. But and for me to help that,
- 8:43Speaker 3: the role sort of entails, you know, sort of multifaceted things, right.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I think, you know, to dive into the minor league
- 8:50Speaker 3: system first, to you know, to see where the talent
- 8:53Speaker 3: is of our you know, one hundred and sixty five
- 8:55Speaker 3: minor league players, so all be into our system. I'll
- 8:59Speaker 3: be in spring training, you know, both watching the big
- 9:02Speaker 3: league team, but also on the lower fields, you know,
- 9:04Speaker 3: watching watching our group of young players and what we
- 9:08Speaker 3: have there, uh, you know, evaluating our major league team,
- 9:13Speaker 3: helping Craig and his staff and talking to players and uh,
- 9:18Speaker 3: you know, lending my support there. And as it relates
- 9:21Speaker 3: to the draft, there's probably a component there of watching
- 9:24Speaker 3: some amateur players along the way and helping our scouting
- 9:28Speaker 3: department if needed, you know, to watch high school players,
- 9:34Speaker 3: junior college players, college players as it relates to the draft.
- 9:38Speaker 3: So multi pronged probably job description, but it's all. It
- 9:44Speaker 3: all centers around the players and and what I can
- 9:47Speaker 3: do to to help Aj and his group, to help
- 9:50Speaker 3: player development and to help the scouting department.
- 9:53Speaker 4: But I want to circle back to your answer to
- 9:56Speaker 4: the previous question. We talked about Craig Staman and there's
- 9:58Speaker 4: going to be a learning curve. That's always true whenever
- 10:00Speaker 4: someone moves into position, but especially given that he has
- 10:04Speaker 4: never coached or managed at any professional level of baseball before.
- 10:08Speaker 4: How long of a learning curve from your experience will
- 10:11Speaker 4: it be. Do you expect to be signed that I'll
- 10:13Speaker 4: take months before he's kind of where he needs to be.
- 10:15Speaker 4: What what's the timeline you expect?
- 10:18Speaker 3: Well, you know that that depends I think, uh, And
- 10:22Speaker 3: I'll go back to even though this is a new
- 10:25Speaker 3: a new role for him, a new position and a
- 10:27Speaker 3: and a new obviously big responsibility. Your days as a
- 10:33Speaker 3: player sort of sets you up for this. Uh. I.
- 10:38Speaker 3: I can only suspect that Craig as he grew in
- 10:41Speaker 3: his career as a as a Washington National and a
- 10:43Speaker 3: San Diego Padre, he was well respected in the clubhouse
- 10:47Speaker 3: as a teammate. And there's a there's a natural leadership
- 10:52Speaker 3: quality to two guys who get this position. Uh. And
- 10:56Speaker 3: it's it's evident by those people around you, those people
- 11:00Speaker 3: who watch you, and those people who end up making
- 11:02Speaker 3: decisions on these on these hires. So I think Craig
- 11:06Speaker 3: had it naturally to, you know, to maybe be in
- 11:11Speaker 3: this role. And it started as a player. And I
- 11:13Speaker 3: think as he got older and he got into his
- 11:15Speaker 3: career and especially here in San Diego as a as
- 11:19Speaker 3: a pitcher with service time and into his and pitching
- 11:22Speaker 3: into his late thirties and players looking up to him
- 11:25Speaker 3: as you know, a mentor, it all started there, so uh.
- 11:31Speaker 3: And then transitioning to outside of being a player into
- 11:35Speaker 3: his role you know, with with padres, with AJ, with
- 11:40Speaker 3: player development and scouting. He learned a lot, but it
- 11:43Speaker 3: goes back to the natural ability of who he is
- 11:48Speaker 3: as a person, and uh, you know, some guys adapt
- 11:52Speaker 3: awful quick. Some guys it takes a little longer. I'm
- 11:57Speaker 3: not sure the timeline for Craig. I mean, all, you know,
- 12:00Speaker 3: all be you know, hopefully uh you know, be a
- 12:03Speaker 3: great sounding board for him to answer some questions. But uh,
- 12:08Speaker 3: there's too many people that I've spoken to who feel,
- 12:11Speaker 3: you know, this is a really good fit for him
- 12:14Speaker 3: in this position. So you know, time will tell. I know,
- 12:17Speaker 3: he's surrounded by some great coaches on the on the
- 12:21Speaker 3: major league staff. He's got the support of the front office.
- 12:25Speaker 3: They know him, They uh you know, vetted the process
- 12:30Speaker 3: to him be the manager. So I'm sure they feel
- 12:32Speaker 3: good about it. Uh. And now it's a it's a
- 12:35Speaker 3: really it's a collective thing, you know. Obviously he's got
- 12:38Speaker 3: to make you know, hard decisions in game pitching, moves, lineups,
- 12:44Speaker 3: but that will all be collaborated with the coaches. But again,
- 12:49Speaker 3: I think his uh you know, his natural ability to
- 12:52Speaker 3: uh you know, to lead into to be the person
- 12:56Speaker 3: that he is. Will we'll take forefront and all this, but.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Where former players Will Myers is also rejoined the Padres
- 13:03Speaker 1: as special assignment coach in player development. Is there anybody
- 13:06Speaker 1: else coming back from your twenty fifteen team as well
- 13:09Speaker 1: as Matt Kemp coming back to help in media relations?
- 13:14Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of. You know, I just became
- 13:17Speaker 3: of Will just a few days ago, and I again,
- 13:20Speaker 3: I think, you know, just I haven't spoken with Will,
- 13:23Speaker 3: but you know, reading some of his quotes over the
- 13:25Speaker 3: last twenty four hours, it seems as though, you know,
- 13:28Speaker 3: he's excited to contribute and to and to work with players.
- 13:33Speaker 3: I think as a you know, as a as a
- 13:36Speaker 3: ball player, you you feel comfortable around players if you
- 13:40Speaker 3: have that ability. I think he does have that. You know.
- 13:44Speaker 3: I made a comment about some time in the in
- 13:46Speaker 3: the batting cage with some young players not known, not
- 13:50Speaker 3: knowing whether he would enjoy it, but I guess he did,
- 13:54Speaker 3: and it gave him some some fuel to, you know,
- 13:58Speaker 3: express an interest in coming back and helping. So, uh,
- 14:02Speaker 3: we'll see. But you know, uh, you know, Will's affable. Uh,
- 14:05Speaker 3: he's he's communicative. Uh, he likes to talk baseball and
- 14:09Speaker 3: there's a knowledge base there of hit of hitting. So
- 14:12Speaker 3: we'll see. But I'm I'm I'm excited to see Will
- 14:16Speaker 3: you know, along with you know, the list of other guys,
- 14:20Speaker 3: uh you know who uh you know who are are
- 14:24Speaker 3: helping the front office and player development, right Trevor, Uh
- 14:27Speaker 3: you know Trevor's brother, Glenn Hoffman, Mark Loretta, A. J Ellis,
- 14:33Speaker 3: Alan Craig, Scott Service. I mean there's a you know,
- 14:37Speaker 3: a wealth of experienced baseball guys that are here, are
- 14:41Speaker 3: here to help the players and here here to help
- 14:44Speaker 3: the organization. And uh, you know, the growth never stops.
- 14:48Speaker 3: It's always a process of trying to get better. And
- 14:53Speaker 3: I think the group that Aj is surrounded himself with
- 14:58Speaker 3: is a really really good group.
- 15:00Speaker 4: Budd you obviously were a central figure in this organization
- 15:03Speaker 4: from twenty thousand and seven un till twenty fifteen, eventually
- 15:07Speaker 4: moved over to become the Rockies manager. So seeing them
- 15:09Speaker 4: from the outside versus the inside, what was your impression
- 15:12Speaker 4: of this team, of this organization from the opposing dugout
- 15:16Speaker 4: during your time as the Rockies manager.
- 15:18Speaker 3: Well, you know, you saw a building, That's the thing
- 15:21Speaker 3: that you know. I think we all saw all across baseball,
- 15:25Speaker 3: right from all of us in the industry, and I
- 15:28Speaker 3: was able to see it a little bit up closer. Right,
- 15:30Speaker 3: because being in the same division and even living here
- 15:33Speaker 3: in San Diego in the off season, you know, momentum
- 15:37Speaker 3: started and it just hasn't stopped. And that's you know,
- 15:42Speaker 3: a tribute to AJ and his staff and the new
- 15:45Speaker 3: ownership group that came in right around twenty fourteen when
- 15:49Speaker 3: I was when I was leaving that you know, it
- 15:53Speaker 3: just kept building and it was just a force that
- 16:00Speaker 3: you know, was in a way relentless, right. I mean,
- 16:03Speaker 3: that's that's how AG operates from you know, those first
- 16:07Speaker 3: slew of trades and the winner of twenty fourteen with
- 16:12Speaker 3: with Kemp and Norris and Shields and Myers and Kimberl
- 16:17Speaker 3: and Upton Man. I mean, wow, right right off the bat,
- 16:21Speaker 3: and then it just hasn't stopped, you know, from Hosmer
- 16:23Speaker 3: to Machado and others along the way, and his resourceful
- 16:29Speaker 3: resourcefulness out of the draft to really pick well, a
- 16:34Speaker 3: tribute to his scouts on the amateur side and the
- 16:36Speaker 3: pro side to acquire players through the draft and through
- 16:41Speaker 3: trades and then as needed, making evaluation of those players
- 16:47Speaker 3: and trading them off for you know, Sodo and Tanner,
- 16:50Speaker 3: Spot and others. I mean, it's just it's you know,
- 16:53Speaker 3: it's it's a he's been a force and you can
- 16:57Speaker 3: see a building. And I think it's been noticed nationwide
- 17:01Speaker 3: across the industry of baseball that the Padres are here,
- 17:04Speaker 3: They're for real, They're not And you know, a lot
- 17:07Speaker 3: of credit goes to, you know, the ownership backing AJ
- 17:11Speaker 3: and and AJ being who he is to just to
- 17:15Speaker 3: get after it and and it was all recognized by
- 17:18Speaker 3: all of us in the industry.
- 17:20Speaker 1: One thing about the San Diego Padres era under a J. Puller,
- 17:22Speaker 1: it is certainly never boring. Buddy Black, it is so.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Good to see you. I can't want to see you.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Whether it's gonna be at fan Festa Pecka Park, perhaps
- 17:30Speaker 1: will be in a San Diego Stea game at Via
- 17:31Speaker 1: House Arena, maybe it'll be in spring training.
- 17:33Speaker 2: But I am welcome back to San Diego. Really never left.
- 17:37Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys. It's good to be back. It's
- 17:39Speaker 3: good to be uh back with familiar faces who you know,
- 17:44Speaker 3: love the Padres, who care you know. It's it's exciting
- 17:48Speaker 3: for me where I am and in my career and
- 17:51Speaker 3: you know, hopefully I can like I said eight and
- 17:54Speaker 3: help and support us get to where we want to go.
- 17:58Speaker 1: All right, Well, good stuff with Buddy Black. Great catching
- 18:01Speaker 1: up with him. He is now the senior advisor to
- 18:03Speaker 1: Baseball OPS.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I had to.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Stop myself Kyle about twenty five times from excuse me
- 18:09Speaker 1: from referring to him as the Podres manager. I know,
- 18:12Speaker 1: I will slip up during the regular season, so we'll see.
- 18:14Speaker 1: By the way, the one question I wish I had
- 18:16Speaker 1: been to ask him, did this did the conversation, the
- 18:19Speaker 1: dialogue with Josh Stein and aj Peler happen after Mike
- 18:23Speaker 1: Schultzs resignation or before?
- 18:25Speaker 2: I'm just curious. Yeah.
- 18:26Speaker 4: Look, I mean it's saying where you know, we've seen
- 18:28Speaker 4: some things and just conversations. Yeah, it was something that
- 18:31Speaker 4: kind of came about after Buddy, you know, things ended
- 18:34Speaker 4: with the Rockies. There are some I want to call
- 18:37Speaker 4: him rumors, but there was some thought, you know, even
- 18:38Speaker 4: toward the end of the regular season that you know,
- 18:40Speaker 4: the Podres could bring him back in some sort of
- 18:42Speaker 4: advisory capacity. So it did predate Mike Show a little bit.
- 18:45Speaker 4: But look, Buddy Black's a great baseball mind. I think
- 18:48Speaker 4: a lot of people look at some of the overall
- 18:51Speaker 4: records and make judgments, but it's not correct. I mean,
- 18:54Speaker 4: he was operating with the Potters team that had payrolls
- 18:57Speaker 4: in the forty million dollar range at times. Then he
- 19:00Speaker 4: went to the Rockies, an organization that we all know
- 19:02Speaker 4: about their issues, and even despite that, he was nationally
- 19:05Speaker 4: Manager of the Year at the Podres and twenty ten
- 19:07Speaker 4: had a great season there, took the Rockies to back
- 19:09Speaker 4: to back postseasons. So he's one of the most respected
- 19:13Speaker 4: individuals in the game, both for his baseball knowledge and
- 19:16Speaker 4: just who he is as a person. Having him back
- 19:18Speaker 4: in the Potterys organization is certainly going to be a boost, a.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Huge boon for Craig Stammon.
- 19:23Speaker 1: And speaking of Craig Stanman, earlier this week, the guys
- 19:26Speaker 1: from foul Territory TV had Craig Stanmon on the show
- 19:30Speaker 1: and he talked about a variety of topics. Is there
- 19:33Speaker 1: anything that jumped out at you in particular, because I
- 19:35Speaker 1: know it.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Did for me.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Yeah, Craig Stamon definitely hit on a few topics that
- 19:40Speaker 4: were notable for me. First and foremost, he talked about
- 19:43Speaker 4: he's still in contact with Mike Shilt and we've talked
- 19:45Speaker 4: about the style of play, the standard Mike Shilt said,
- 19:48Speaker 4: and how that needs to be continued, and Craig Stammon
- 19:51Speaker 4: really established that, yes, he intends to do that. That
- 19:54Speaker 4: is very much something on his mind, which I think
- 19:56Speaker 4: is really important. He talked about Joe Musgrove not being
- 19:59Speaker 4: on any sort of coming off of Tommy John surgery,
- 20:02Speaker 4: which I thought was interesting and again, we'll see how
- 20:04Speaker 4: that goes as well.
- 20:05Speaker 3: And at this.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Point in his career, at this point in his career,
- 20:08Speaker 1: there wasn't going to be a limit on Musgrove.
- 20:11Speaker 4: Yeah, and understandably too, because you have to keep in
- 20:13Speaker 4: mind Joe Musgrove has had extra rehab time a lot
- 20:15Speaker 4: of times with Tommy John surgeries. They say twelve to
- 20:18Speaker 4: eighteen months, actually thirteen to seventeen, but just with the
- 20:20Speaker 4: timing of it and going into the off season, Joe
- 20:22Speaker 4: Musgrove is going to be on the higher end of
- 20:24Speaker 4: recovery time. So hopefully that makes a difference and just
- 20:27Speaker 4: allows him to last a little bit longer. And he
- 20:30Speaker 4: talked a little bit about Luisa Rise and just how
- 20:31Speaker 4: valuable he is and what a valuable member of the
- 20:34Speaker 4: Potters he was. Look, we've talked about on the show
- 20:36Speaker 4: and lots of places talk about Luisa Rise is very,
- 20:39Speaker 4: very very divisive. At the end of the day, he
- 20:42Speaker 4: can hit. The hardest thing to do in Major League
- 20:45Speaker 4: Baseball today is make consistent contact, and he does that
- 20:49Speaker 4: better than anyone else in baseball. I always think it's
- 20:51Speaker 4: funny people post like the stat cast, you know, green
- 20:53Speaker 4: and red lines and showing him bottom of this, that
- 20:56Speaker 4: and the other thing. It's like, yeah, but he's one
- 20:58Speaker 4: hundredth percentile in the most important So we've talked about
- 21:02Speaker 4: he doesn't fit the Potters and their needs. He will
- 21:05Speaker 4: fit a lot of teams. The Angel should have signed
- 21:07Speaker 4: them already. I mean they need contact in the worst way.
- 21:09Speaker 4: And not to mention someone who actually can teach their
- 21:12Speaker 4: guys how to make contact, which Luisa Rys does. Staman
- 21:15Speaker 4: also talks about the impact Rise had on other guys.
- 21:17Speaker 4: So that was all out to me. What about you.
- 21:20Speaker 2: He's a great positive influence in that clipbhouse.
- 21:23Speaker 1: And by the way, I saw from his ig that
- 21:24Speaker 1: he's working out with Nelson Cruz get and getting some work.
- 21:29Speaker 2: The Rise thing was good, I know.
- 21:30Speaker 1: And by the way, just to set that up, I
- 21:32Speaker 1: don't think that he wasn't asked do you want him back?
- 21:34Speaker 2: Necessarily?
- 21:35Speaker 1: You know, he was asking, you know, what's the scouting
- 21:37Speaker 1: report on Luisa Rise? What does he bring to a team.
- 21:40Speaker 1: So I know Padrey Fans's like, oh no, no, you can't
- 21:41Speaker 1: have this guy back. We need some slug in for
- 21:43Speaker 1: his base.
- 21:44Speaker 2: That was interesting, though.
- 21:45Speaker 1: The thing that seemed to really let people on fire
- 21:48Speaker 1: was the idea that Craig Stammond's been in regular contact
- 21:50Speaker 1: with Mike Schultz. And this is what I'll say about that.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Number One, it's logical. He's not asking him to set
- 21:55Speaker 1: his lineup. He's not asking him, you know, how to
- 21:57Speaker 1: deal with the coaching staff. He's asking for his vice
- 22:00Speaker 1: the first time manager, you know, how do you prepare
- 22:02Speaker 1: for spring training? What are the things that you need
- 22:04Speaker 1: to know? And whether you like Mike Schuld or you
- 22:06Speaker 1: did not, or you're concerned about the rumors about you know,
- 22:08Speaker 1: his relationships with the coaching staff and and previous.
- 22:11Speaker 2: For James, he he won.
- 22:13Speaker 1: He won with the Padres playoffs and back to back years, right,
- 22:17Speaker 1: And the important thing is the players bought into him.
- 22:19Speaker 1: He was very well liked inside that locker room by
- 22:23Speaker 1: the players and he knew had to Forgeoe's relationships. So
- 22:27Speaker 1: good on Craig Stammon.
- 22:28Speaker 4: Were people who on Earth is upset about this. This
- 22:32Speaker 4: is very standard and he should be doing that talk.
- 22:34Speaker 2: You've been on social media? Have you heard of this
- 22:36Speaker 2: thing called twitter or ax or whatever it's called.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's logical and what kind of
- 22:43Speaker 1: a woman think, Kyle? For what it tells me though
- 22:46Speaker 1: about Craig Stalmmon is the guy wants to learn everything.
- 22:49Speaker 1: He doesn't have a huge ego where you know what
- 22:51Speaker 1: it's going to be about me, I'm leaving the ship now,
- 22:53Speaker 1: it's my way. He is someone who's going to be
- 22:56Speaker 1: a sponge and taken as much information as he possibly
- 23:00Speaker 1: we can to give the Padre's just you know, the
- 23:02Speaker 1: biggest edge and himself.
- 23:04Speaker 4: Sorry everyone, this is standard. New manager comes in, there's
- 23:11Speaker 4: a very tight fraternity within the managerial ranks. This happens everywhere.
- 23:16Speaker 4: This is I am stunned. People got upset over this.
- 23:20Speaker 4: New manager comes in, talks to old manager to just hey,
- 23:23Speaker 4: pick his brain on you know, certain players, certain relationships,
- 23:27Speaker 4: and especially a first time manager like Craig Stamon and
- 23:30Speaker 4: a first time coach like Craig Stammon again has never
- 23:32Speaker 4: coached or manage at any level of baseball, reaching out
- 23:35Speaker 4: to Mike Schilt, who is one of the most respected
- 23:38Speaker 4: and experienced baseball men in the industry right now, has
- 23:42Speaker 4: held every role imaginable, climbed from rookie ball coaching staffs
- 23:45Speaker 4: to a major league manager. That is a tremendous, tremendous
- 23:50Speaker 4: resource for information. Anyone who's upset about this, I'm sorry,
- 23:54Speaker 4: Like this is this is so standard, and it's exactly
- 23:58Speaker 4: what Craig Stamond should do, and the fact he is
- 24:00Speaker 4: doing it a shouldn't be surprising and b is a
- 24:03Speaker 4: really really, really good thing. If you're upset about this,
- 24:05Speaker 4: you need to find other things in life to be
- 24:07Speaker 4: upset about, because this is so similar. It's not one
- 24:10Speaker 4: of them.
- 24:11Speaker 1: The only thing I don't want Stammon asking Shult about
- 24:14Speaker 1: is how to ask how to answer a question when
- 24:17Speaker 1: your line up a second guest, or you talk about
- 24:20Speaker 1: someone going into a slop. That's it, that's it, just
- 24:23Speaker 1: it's all stuff great, the post game, the pre game,
- 24:26Speaker 1: Craig Stalmon, go ahead and do your thing.
- 24:28Speaker 4: And there's so many there's so many things that people
- 24:31Speaker 4: don't think about. That's just kind of you know, routine. Hey,
- 24:34Speaker 4: when in the day should I do this? What's the
- 24:37Speaker 4: right time to do this. These are things that go
- 24:39Speaker 4: a long way into having a functioning coach player relationship.
- 24:43Speaker 4: That are pretty mundane, but if you've never done it before,
- 24:46Speaker 4: you really need to understand how to do it, at
- 24:48Speaker 4: least to the level expected of a big league manager.
- 24:51Speaker 4: So again, this is a good thing. I'm shocked and
- 24:54Speaker 4: just maybe I shouldn't be, because Twitter being what it is,
- 24:58Speaker 4: I still call it Twitter. But yeah, I thought it
- 25:00Speaker 4: was a really, really insightful interview. I encourage everyone to
- 25:03Speaker 4: check it out on foul Territory and another Big Potter's interview.
- 25:06Speaker 4: Mason Miller joined the show as well. He had some
- 25:08Speaker 4: interesting things to say, particularly about his decision to remain
- 25:11Speaker 4: a reliever and Marty. We talked about this, that's where
- 25:15Speaker 4: he's best, that's where he's comfortable, and that's what he's
- 25:17Speaker 4: going to do in twenty twenty six. I thought it
- 25:19Speaker 4: was interesting. He noted he's not closing the door for
- 25:21Speaker 4: future years, which is saying Stammon did as well, but
- 25:24Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, this is the best role for
- 25:27Speaker 4: him for the Padres and that's what they're going to
- 25:29Speaker 4: roll with.
- 25:30Speaker 1: It was good stuff you and I would encourage you
- 25:32Speaker 1: to go back and find the entire interview with Mason Miller,
- 25:35Speaker 1: who also talked about being teammates with Clayton Kershaw and
- 25:37Speaker 1: the WBC. He is changing his walk up music. I
- 25:40Speaker 1: think he's narrowed it down to two songs. It's not
- 25:43Speaker 1: going to be nickelback that was so so so so
- 25:45Speaker 1: last year. Actually it's actually longer than that.
- 25:48Speaker 2: And what else. Oh, in one important part he thought
- 25:51Speaker 2: about he talked about the edge.
- 25:52Speaker 1: He thinks that the pictures are going to have having
- 25:54Speaker 1: Craig Stanmon as a manager.
- 25:56Speaker 2: So I encourage you find that entire interview on Foul
- 25:59Speaker 2: Tara Tory TV.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Do not forget, by the way, Padres fans to like
- 26:04Speaker 1: and subscribe to this show. We didn't have time today
- 26:06Speaker 1: because we went along with Buddy Black, but send your
- 26:08Speaker 1: questions and your Padres questions in for the next mail bag.
- 26:12Speaker 1: One last thing, if I'm may Kyle, I was cleaning
- 26:14Speaker 1: out my Tacoma it's a two thousand and six and
- 26:17Speaker 1: I came across these miniature fridge bobblehead magnets, Khalila Green, Jake, Peeve,
- 26:26Speaker 1: Buddy Black, the Blue Padres Man.
- 26:30Speaker 2: Things have changed since then.
- 26:32Speaker 4: That is perfect. I was cleaning out my garage the
- 26:34Speaker 4: other day and went through some old boxes and found
- 26:36Speaker 4: a chase heavily bobblehead circa of like twenty twelve maybe,
- 26:40Speaker 4: so yeah, no, there's there's always some goodies to be found.
- 26:43Speaker 4: But that's perfect timing finding that little mini. So I
- 26:47Speaker 4: don't remember those, I mean I was, you know, do
- 26:49Speaker 4: I mine?
- 26:50Speaker 1: We're still yeah, mine were still like they were still
- 26:52Speaker 1: in the box. It was they were wrapped. They hadn't
- 26:54Speaker 1: been opened yet. I don't remember this, but they are.
- 26:56Speaker 1: They are fig fridge mannuts, fridge magnets.
- 26:59Speaker 3: They work.
- 26:59Speaker 4: I'll say one, maybe see what you can get on either.
- 27:02Speaker 4: I feel like those are rare enough they might actually
- 27:04Speaker 4: be worth something. You never know.
- 27:06Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Kyle, A lot of fun today.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Thanks again to Bud Black and the Padres. We really
- 27:11Speaker 1: really enjoy the interview. Have a wonderful weekend. I'm already Caswell,
- 27:15Speaker 1: that is Kyle Glazer. You are watching Friar Territory on
- 27:18Speaker 1: the Foul Territory TV network. Have a wonderful weekend and
- 27:22Speaker 1: we will talk to you next week.