Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best of full interview: 112, Case & Total On The 90s R&B Generation, Biggie's Magic In Studio, Cool Vulnerability + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Clicks up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Y'all done morning.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V Jess Hilarryous, Charlamagne the
- 0:10Speaker 3: guy we are the Breakfast Club. Law Rous is here
- 0:13Speaker 3: as well. We got some special guests in the bountain.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Come on now we have one.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Twelve you, we have total and we have Case. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
- 0:22Speaker 4: Man, how are you doing?
- 0:26Speaker 5: And this is not a random link up y'all going
- 0:28Speaker 5: on tour together?
- 0:30Speaker 6: M this is the one.
- 0:31Speaker 7: Twelve Room one twelve thirtieth anniversary tour. We're so excited
- 0:35Speaker 7: about our brother Case and our sister's total with us.
- 0:38Speaker 2: So you know, have a good time. Man. First first
- 0:41Speaker 2: shows win.
- 0:42Speaker 7: November health Yeah, November twelve. Staff for Connecticut Brooklyn is
- 0:49Speaker 7: November thirteenth.
- 0:50Speaker 3: So there's a members missing. So are the members going
- 0:53Speaker 3: to be on tour or this is the tour?
- 0:55Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is okay, okay, yeah, nice my other
- 0:59Speaker 2: members by yourself, we're made.
- 1:06Speaker 5: Now the right time for all of y'all to come
- 1:08Speaker 5: together for this tour.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Oh that's a great question, bro. Honestly managed it.
- 1:13Speaker 7: It just felt right it being thirty years, you know,
- 1:15Speaker 7: us being in the game, so it just it just
- 1:17Speaker 7: made sense for us to just get out there and
- 1:19Speaker 7: just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've
- 1:22Speaker 7: been doing, you know, been rocking out with us for
- 1:23Speaker 7: the last thirty years man, So you know, we're really
- 1:26Speaker 7: excited about it. Man, Like we're managed totally and one
- 1:29Speaker 7: twelve managed by the same you know crew. So of
- 1:32Speaker 7: course that was an easy, you know decision to make
- 1:34Speaker 7: with that. And then in case you know, being you
- 1:36Speaker 7: know bro, Yeah, that's the bro, you know what I mean,
- 1:38Speaker 7: and all of us having that catalog is definitely we
- 1:41Speaker 7: wanted to bring back that ninety nostalgia you feel and all.
- 1:44Speaker 8: Y'all still sing thank you. That's you know, not everybody
- 1:48Speaker 8: doing it, but y'all can still sing.
- 1:50Speaker 2: That's important. Good, yes, man.
- 1:52Speaker 3: So were you guys on the road already on tour
- 1:54Speaker 3: before or you you had to break from family obligations
- 1:57Speaker 3: and be like, I'm gonna need to take some time
- 1:58Speaker 3: out and get on tour.
- 1:59Speaker 9: We Keisha and I were on. We just started back
- 2:03Speaker 9: a year ago.
- 2:03Speaker 4: We came back out.
- 2:04Speaker 9: We did the R and B tour part of that. Yeah,
- 2:08Speaker 9: we were home. We came my family and.
- 2:12Speaker 3: How difficult was that getting back on the road, getting
- 2:14Speaker 3: back on dancing, getting back on How difficult was that?
- 2:17Speaker 2: It?
- 2:17Speaker 10: Really it wasn't.
- 2:18Speaker 9: It really wasn't difficult. It's like, you know, like riding bike.
- 2:22Speaker 9: Once you did it done, so it's just you know,
- 2:24Speaker 9: my kids are older, Keisha still has a high school child.
- 2:27Speaker 9: But so it wasn't hard at all. They're very supportive,
- 2:29Speaker 9: you know. They actually was like, go do it.
- 2:35Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:37Speaker 6: Rehearsals was dope. We had to you know, work it
- 2:39Speaker 6: out a little bit. But like Keema said, it's like
- 2:42Speaker 6: riding a bike once you get started.
- 2:44Speaker 4: My vibe is very authentic.
- 2:46Speaker 11: So it's you know.
- 2:48Speaker 3: But people went through dances from the old videos. If
- 2:50Speaker 3: you ain't hitting them them.
- 2:52Speaker 9: Dances, we danced and we got our box.
- 2:58Speaker 5: How did y'all find that balance back in the day
- 3:00Speaker 5: between being like sexy was strong, was still street with it, Like,
- 3:04Speaker 5: how did y'all find that balance?
- 3:06Speaker 9: It was just natural, like that's just who we are
- 3:10Speaker 9: growing up Jersey, Like how we.
- 3:12Speaker 6: Were, Yeah, and that's what made us. To me, that's
- 3:15Speaker 6: what made us who we were. Total the name started
- 3:19Speaker 6: out as total opposites because we were all individuals in
- 3:22Speaker 6: our own way, you know, So it was it wasn't
- 3:25Speaker 6: like you had to buy the brand.
- 3:27Speaker 11: We came as we were.
- 3:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Yeah, How was the bad Boy ever back then? Growing up?
- 3:33Speaker 10: Right?
- 3:33Speaker 3: Because there was a time nineties two thousand it was
- 3:36Speaker 3: nothing but bad Boy in the radio, nothing but bad
- 3:39Speaker 3: Boy on the streets, mixtapes to clubs. How was that
- 3:42Speaker 3: era where it just it felt like anything y'all did hit.
- 3:46Speaker 11: It was some beautiful things.
- 3:47Speaker 9: It was fun, it was. That's what we learned a
- 3:51Speaker 9: lot of our grind from that whole era.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Grinding just out there.
- 3:56Speaker 11: It was going the time like it was just fun.
- 3:58Speaker 11: It was just like a big.
- 4:02Speaker 10: Yep.
- 4:02Speaker 7: Yeah that's crazy us coming from Atlanta, you know what
- 4:06Speaker 7: I'm saying.
- 4:06Speaker 12: It like it was a different it was like a
- 4:08Speaker 12: different culture. So you know, you know, you can imagine
- 4:10Speaker 12: how that felt.
- 4:11Speaker 2: He's coming.
- 4:11Speaker 12: I know, he's from the you know what I'm saying.
- 4:14Speaker 12: So you're coming to New York culture culture, you know,
- 4:17Speaker 12: so you know, but but it was so much fun
- 4:20Speaker 12: because it was just like, okay, clubs smaller, but you
- 4:23Speaker 12: know what i mean. But it was like in your face,
- 4:25Speaker 12: so you know what I'm saying. So, but we learned
- 4:27Speaker 12: a lot musically here m hmm. What about you for
- 4:31Speaker 12: you case now, you weren't on Bad Boy, you were
- 4:33Speaker 12: on Death Jam Jam. You a songwriter, you had you
- 4:36Speaker 12: have the I always say, you have that one wedding
- 4:38Speaker 12: song that you will get paid for for the rest
- 4:40Speaker 12: of your life.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Happily after.
- 4:44Speaker 3: That was that was coming up for you in that
- 4:46Speaker 3: and during that time because at that time you were
- 4:48Speaker 3: death Jam. Death Jam was heavy pop and you was
- 4:51Speaker 3: probably one of the only R and B singers at
- 4:53Speaker 3: the time.
- 4:53Speaker 10: I mean it was.
- 4:54Speaker 13: It was cool for me, except for the only problem
- 4:57Speaker 13: that they was learning on the fly how to do
- 4:58Speaker 13: R and B and so I get caught up in
- 5:00Speaker 13: that sometime. But yeah, I mean, you know how big
- 5:03Speaker 13: they was then, so that part was cool. It was
- 5:05Speaker 13: just a lot of times they had a lot of
- 5:07Speaker 13: hip hop sensibilities because it's hip hop label. But one
- 5:10Speaker 13: of the things that helped me was that I was
- 5:12Speaker 13: the last artist that Russell personally signed to Death Jail,
- 5:14Speaker 13: So I'd always call him and be like, yo, I
- 5:17Speaker 13: can snitch.
- 5:20Speaker 5: The record was gonna be so timeless, like touch me,
- 5:22Speaker 5: tease me happily.
- 5:24Speaker 13: I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do. Like,
- 5:26Speaker 13: I never wanted to make like trendy stuff. I always
- 5:29Speaker 13: wanted to make music like my parents would listen to
- 5:31Speaker 13: stuff from like twenty thirty years earlier, and it would
- 5:33Speaker 13: have me doing it. And so my thing was like,
- 5:35Speaker 13: if I could do that, then I'd be happy and
- 5:37Speaker 13: then everything else will fall in line.
- 5:38Speaker 5: You worked with a Mary Jay beyond Foxy Brown, who else?
- 5:45Speaker 3: There's a bunch of people ll ghost Face, ghost Face, Genuine, Tyrie, Genuine.
- 5:50Speaker 10: Terry jam and Lewis.
- 5:52Speaker 5: What's a session that changed the way you saw yourself
- 5:54Speaker 5: as an artist?
- 5:56Speaker 13: M probably Jam and Lewis because I was a huge
- 6:00Speaker 13: fan and I'm like, I'm sitting in room with Jimmy,
- 6:02Speaker 13: Jame and Terry Lewis and I'm like and they was like, well, yeah, Janet,
- 6:06Speaker 13: we're gonna have Janet comes.
- 6:07Speaker 10: She loves you, and I'm like wait.
- 6:08Speaker 13: Wait wait, wait, like wait wait wait, got a call
- 6:12Speaker 13: that yeah, yeah, we don't need to do that. I
- 6:15Speaker 13: was just saying, I love I don't have don't have
- 6:16Speaker 13: a walk in here, because that had have been different,
- 6:19Speaker 13: but it was really that one because I'm like sitting there,
- 6:22Speaker 13: I've been listening to him forever and I'm like dag,
- 6:24Speaker 13: I'm sitting here. Another one was the first time I
- 6:27Speaker 13: worked with Charlie Wilson. I had wrote a song for
- 6:29Speaker 13: him and I was a huge fan. And I'm sitting
- 6:31Speaker 13: in the booth behind him on the floor while he's
- 6:33Speaker 13: doing his vocals and I'm tripping out like this is
- 6:36Speaker 13: really happening.
- 6:37Speaker 10: So it was a lot of different moments.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I felt like, def Jim didn't treat you like a
- 6:42Speaker 3: regular artist, right with total.
- 6:45Speaker 1: In one twelve.
- 6:46Speaker 3: I would see them out in the club like bad
- 6:48Speaker 3: Boy would have him Mountain Death Jim artists, Deaf Gim
- 6:50Speaker 3: would have them mount I didn't see you Deaf Jim
- 6:52Speaker 3: put you out as much like that?
- 6:54Speaker 1: Was it because you didn't want to.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Go out or I probably didn't know what to do
- 6:56Speaker 5: it because he was R and B.
- 6:57Speaker 10: I think a lot of it.
- 6:58Speaker 13: Yeah, First of all, I hate going out, okay, So
- 7:00Speaker 13: if I didn't have to be there, listen, that's why
- 7:03Speaker 13: you always be like yo, you had a lot of
- 7:04Speaker 13: stuff about you because I know how to.
- 7:08Speaker 10: Over here.
- 7:09Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean I wasn't really big on going out,
- 7:12Speaker 13: or when I did, it'd be I'd be somewhere else
- 7:14Speaker 13: unless I had to be somewhere with them.
- 7:17Speaker 9: Gotcha, did you guys? Well, Mike, I saw you say that.
- 7:20Speaker 9: You feel like, you know, you guys, first album without that,
- 7:24Speaker 9: you don't think that R and B would be as
- 7:25Speaker 9: prevalent or as worldwide as it is right.
- 7:27Speaker 7: Now, Okay, okay, So yeah, because we felt like we
- 7:33Speaker 7: contributed a lot more than one twelve. You know, we
- 7:36Speaker 7: walk around with modesty on our shoulders and stuff, and
- 7:39Speaker 7: I know that that's you know, Huberts to say that
- 7:42Speaker 7: while you're talking about modesty, right, But yeah, we we
- 7:45Speaker 7: always walked around with this this mindset that, man, we'll.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Let our actions speak for themselves.
- 7:50Speaker 7: But we would always challenge people like find us because
- 7:54Speaker 7: our niche in the industry was hip hop and R
- 7:57Speaker 7: and B. We weren't just hip hop artists, I mean
- 7:59Speaker 7: R and B artists, We were hip pop and R
- 8:00Speaker 7: and B artists. So yeah, the mind frame was we
- 8:03Speaker 7: started that whole trend. It's like the way music sounds now.
- 8:06Speaker 7: One twelve had a lot to do with that because
- 8:08Speaker 7: no one can really give us a group that did
- 8:12Speaker 7: it the way that we did it before one twelve,
- 8:15Speaker 7: Like as far as singing over hip hop beats and
- 8:17Speaker 7: stuff like that, like you, I challenged in but find
- 8:20Speaker 7: me a group that did it. Because back in the day,
- 8:22Speaker 7: what you had the A side and you had the
- 8:23Speaker 7: B side right, and then on the B side, so
- 8:25Speaker 7: the records, right, they had the records, you had the
- 8:27Speaker 7: uptempot records where they were singing, but they were always
- 8:31Speaker 7: all that singing over uptempo beats and stuff. It was
- 8:34Speaker 7: like it was confusing.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Puff. One one thing that Puff told us.
- 8:37Speaker 7: Was like when you're in the club, when you when
- 8:39Speaker 7: you're recording a record, right, sing the song as if
- 8:43Speaker 7: you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holler
- 8:45Speaker 7: at the girl.
- 8:45Speaker 2: You ain't gonna be in this girl talking about.
- 8:47Speaker 4: Yeah you gonna go.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I want to be with you, you know what I mean,
- 8:55Speaker 2: It's gonna be something smoothing.
- 8:56Speaker 7: So when we wrote records, when we wrote the uptimbo
- 8:58Speaker 7: records and then Slim having the voice being able to
- 9:01Speaker 7: just lay on the tracks the way that we did,
- 9:03Speaker 7: like that started an hole ever where people now like
- 9:06Speaker 7: when you hear R and B it has a hip
- 9:08Speaker 7: hop element.
- 9:09Speaker 2: To it as well. It's not just R and B.
- 9:11Speaker 2: It's a hip hop element.
- 9:12Speaker 5: Isn't that a bad boy formula or wasn't that Diddy,
- 9:14Speaker 5: Like I feel like Diddy did that like with Jodysie.
- 9:16Speaker 5: I feel like he did that with Mary j Blige
- 9:18Speaker 5: like he did that with Total.
- 9:19Speaker 2: I'll give you that.
- 9:20Speaker 7: I'll give you Mary j Blige because yeah, she she helped,
- 9:23Speaker 7: uh because we always say that Mary is between Mary
- 9:26Speaker 7: and one twelve, but one twelve really and then yeah,
- 9:28Speaker 7: puff did you know he did contribute because we came
- 9:30Speaker 7: in with just we are and B we aren't b bro,
- 9:32Speaker 7: like forget all that stuff man like hip hop that's
- 9:34Speaker 7: gonna cheapen our sound and all this sudden stuff. And
- 9:36Speaker 7: he's had the vision was like, Yo, this is what's
- 9:39Speaker 7: gonna separate y'all from the drew Hills, from the Jaggets,
- 9:41Speaker 7: from the you know, the Ajets and all these other
- 9:44Speaker 7: groups that were coming out at the same time.
- 9:45Speaker 8: And you know what that that didn't make perfect sense,
- 9:48Speaker 8: right instead of all I would love a nigga to
- 9:50Speaker 8: come up to me and class, let.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Me tell you what exactly.
- 9:58Speaker 7: That's exactly what it was because tis out of ten
- 10:01Speaker 7: ain't gonna be able to sing. So he's like, bro,
- 10:02Speaker 7: all of that in my ear, like I don't want
- 10:04Speaker 7: to hear all that you know, so that.
- 10:06Speaker 5: You agree with Mike's assessment. Not to start any arguments here,
- 10:08Speaker 5: but case do you agree with that?
- 10:11Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was, it was part of it.
- 10:13Speaker 13: I mean that during that era, but that's when hip
- 10:15Speaker 13: hop and R and B was Yeah, yeah, pretty much, and.
- 10:18Speaker 5: I feel like bad Boy was at the forefront of.
- 10:20Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, yeah, because Total was hip hop with that
- 10:24Speaker 6: touch of R and B. R and B group, but
- 10:26Speaker 6: I think we were more base hip hop with the
- 10:28Speaker 6: touch of R and B. And Mary definitely was the
- 10:31Speaker 6: pioneer of that sound.
- 10:32Speaker 9: And Total, you guys are some of the I'm sorry,
- 10:34Speaker 9: go ahead shout.
- 10:35Speaker 11: Out to No No No.
- 10:36Speaker 6: I was just gonna say when he when Puppe did
- 10:38Speaker 6: the remixes with Jodasy, because Jodasy was just the R
- 10:41Speaker 6: and B and then he brought the hip hop elementary.
- 10:43Speaker 5: Ghost facing Ray Kuon on the Freaking You remix, you know,
- 10:46Speaker 5: like I can't even I don't want to hear can't
- 10:48Speaker 5: you see without Biggie part? Like I hate hated when
- 10:51Speaker 5: some of the urban AC stations back in the day
- 10:52Speaker 5: didn't play Raptors, just played the R and B.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I hated.
- 10:55Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I would go before record.
- 11:06Speaker 5: Yes, because they didn't want you didn't play played.
- 11:11Speaker 3: So how did y'all sign to Puff? When did y'all
- 11:13Speaker 3: meet Puffing? Puff is like, this is the group that
- 11:14Speaker 3: I want. How did that start?
- 11:15Speaker 9: Because the first time we met Puffy through we met
- 11:22Speaker 9: these guys that introduced us to Kathy. Kathy was from
- 11:26Speaker 9: Mount Vernon, Kathy, Kathy Duke, She's how we met Puff.
- 11:30Speaker 9: Puff is. What's her son's what is her son's godfather?
- 11:35Speaker 9: He's the little baby, the little first baby baby put closer.
- 11:41Speaker 11: So that's how we met him. Can I can I bring?
- 11:46Speaker 11: Can I bring them in?
- 11:46Speaker 6: So Kathy one day when when we were introduced to Kathy,
- 11:51Speaker 6: Kathy was like, I would love to represent y'all manage all.
- 11:54Speaker 6: So we ride and ride and Kathy was like, y'all
- 11:57Speaker 6: gotta always be ready, always be ready.
- 12:00Speaker 11: So she pulls up, she goes upstairs. She was like,
- 12:02Speaker 11: I'll be right back.
- 12:02Speaker 6: She comes downstairs and she was like, Okay, I need
- 12:05Speaker 6: y'all to make up a song and put Puffy's name
- 12:07Speaker 6: in it. At the time, Puffy's Puffy, He's actually in
- 12:10Speaker 6: the studio with Josy doing the remix. So he comes downstairs.
- 12:15Speaker 6: He introduces himself and then we just start singing, but
- 12:18Speaker 6: we're performing.
- 12:19Speaker 11: We had him all backed up against the wall and
- 12:22Speaker 11: ye had his mouth open.
- 12:23Speaker 6: He was like, how do you He asked our ages
- 12:28Speaker 6: came upstairs. We watched him, you know, direct Jo Tosy,
- 12:32Speaker 6: and then he asked us how well did we get
- 12:35Speaker 6: along in the studio, like if we had an argument,
- 12:38Speaker 6: did we get back in the studio?
- 12:39Speaker 11: And we were like yeah. So he was like okay.
- 12:42Speaker 11: So he was like, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all sound really good.
- 12:45Speaker 11: He was like, yo, I just.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Encourage y'all to keep doing what y'all doing, you know,
- 12:48Speaker 6: don't let nobody break y'all up. Two o'clock that morning
- 12:51Speaker 6: he called Kathy. He was like, don't take them nowhere
- 12:53Speaker 6: on the signum.
- 12:55Speaker 1: What was the first song that y'all did? What was
- 12:56Speaker 1: the first one y'all recorded?
- 12:58Speaker 6: Well, we recorded songs that never went anywhere because we
- 13:02Speaker 6: were just trying to find our sound. But can't you
- 13:04Speaker 6: no Juicy Juicy.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Juicy was the first record I did and I was
- 13:08Speaker 3: working with Biggie Amazing. You gotta break it down both
- 13:13Speaker 3: songs Juicy and the can't you see.
- 13:15Speaker 9: The story behind how we wind up recording. Juicy is
- 13:17Speaker 9: like Big was like our little big brother. Like we
- 13:21Speaker 9: were close with Big, so we would frequently be in
- 13:24Speaker 9: New York hanging out in the studio with him. So
- 13:26Speaker 9: he called this one day. He was like, come to
- 13:27Speaker 9: the city we was in. He was in the studio.
- 13:30Speaker 9: So we went to the studio and he was playing Juicy.
- 13:33Speaker 9: Keisha started humming something. Big he was like, y'all should
- 13:36Speaker 9: go in there and put that down. So he, you know,
- 13:38Speaker 9: just gave us some words or whatever, and we went
- 13:40Speaker 9: in there and we put it down, and Puff had
- 13:43Speaker 9: us come back the next day and do the one
- 13:44Speaker 9: More Chance songs. So that's how it started. Juicy original
- 13:54Speaker 9: one More Chance, the one on the album is different
- 13:56Speaker 9: from the.
- 13:58Speaker 1: With the voicemail in the front.
- 14:00Speaker 11: Need to work on that.
- 14:01Speaker 9: Juicy, It says it now when you google it. But
- 14:04Speaker 9: I assume that it wasn't necessarily supposed to been a
- 14:08Speaker 9: feature for me because it was his first single and
- 14:09Speaker 9: stuff like that. So yeah, and I think, you know,
- 14:12Speaker 9: we were new. I don't think it was something that
- 14:15Speaker 9: just happened. Like we were in the studio and we
- 14:17Speaker 9: got in trouble. It was our maners like, don't do
- 14:18Speaker 9: that no more. But I just think they didn't plan
- 14:22Speaker 9: for it to be Biggie's first album to have a
- 14:24Speaker 9: feature on it.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Did y'all get writing cres for it? No?
- 14:27Speaker 11: No, because Big wrote it right.
- 14:29Speaker 5: I didn't know y'all was on Juicy al and we
- 14:33Speaker 5: know those records more chance. Dirty Version is like one
- 14:36Speaker 5: of my favorite records.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Wow, can't you see why can't you see it come together?
- 14:44Speaker 6: We just came to the studio and the track was
- 14:46Speaker 6: playing and we were like, oh snap, and then Terry
- 14:51Speaker 6: Robinson Terry what was the group that Terry?
- 14:55Speaker 4: The Girls?
- 14:55Speaker 6: Terry Robinson's so incredible as far as songwriting, and she came.
- 15:00Speaker 11: She was like, this is this is what it is?
- 15:02Speaker 11: Okay verse I like that verse. She liked that verse,
- 15:06Speaker 11: like that verse. We went recorded it and it was
- 15:09Speaker 11: what it was. It No, No, Big wasn't on it.
- 15:13Speaker 1: He was a studio.
- 15:14Speaker 11: He was in the studio and then he came in
- 15:16Speaker 11: and laid it down. It's crazy.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.
- 15:19Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 15:19Speaker 9: I was gonna ask when you said we got to
- 15:21Speaker 9: work on it, you can go back and make sure
- 15:22Speaker 9: that you guys are credited on the song now, even
- 15:25Speaker 9: though like it's been listed certain how that works.
- 15:29Speaker 6: Because I think I think Pam was able to do
- 15:32Speaker 6: that with hypnotized So and.
- 15:36Speaker 9: Then we get our sounded we get we get performance
- 15:39Speaker 9: royalties for it, like our Sound Exchange and.
- 15:41Speaker 11: Stuff like that.
- 15:42Speaker 9: And it has gotten updated. We had it updated on
- 15:45Speaker 9: the internet. So now if you look it up, it
- 15:47Speaker 9: does say feature in total. But it just didn't go
- 15:50Speaker 9: out like that.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy a lot.
- 15:53Speaker 11: Of y'all, can't, you know.
- 15:59Speaker 8: I just I just never like realized that it didn't
- 16:03Speaker 8: say featuring your voice is definitely y'all, know ya, everybody.
- 16:09Speaker 5: Know the question did y'all enjoy the moment of the nineties,
- 16:11Speaker 5: Because when I look at y'all, it's like y'all are
- 16:13Speaker 5: like mythical figures to me, right, Like you know what
- 16:16Speaker 5: I'm saying, because y'all defined not just the genre, but
- 16:19Speaker 5: like y'all would have soundtrackted our lives. Did y'all enjoy
- 16:23Speaker 5: the moment?
- 16:24Speaker 10: Yes?
- 16:25Speaker 7: Yeah, when they said was in the building road, it.
- 16:35Speaker 11: Was when we were on a high.
- 16:37Speaker 6: I mean, you couldn't ask for a better label, you know,
- 16:39Speaker 6: and a place to be, and especially like aspiring artists,
- 16:43Speaker 6: when this is something that you dream of doing. To
- 16:46Speaker 6: land on Bad Boy and I do. We remember the
- 16:48Speaker 6: time clearly when bad Boy was everywhere. It was nothing
- 16:53Speaker 6: to just walk in the club or walk anywhere and
- 16:56Speaker 6: just get.
- 16:56Speaker 11: That love, admiration and respect.
- 16:58Speaker 7: Like it was whether they world wearing black leather, you know,
- 17:02Speaker 7: we wearing you know, the head bands that everybody's doing
- 17:05Speaker 7: like we were.
- 17:06Speaker 2: It was. It was deepen than the music, Yeah, it was.
- 17:09Speaker 2: It was. It was a It was a.
- 17:13Speaker 6: Movement and we loved each other, yeah, and each other.
- 17:19Speaker 2: A lot of ways.
- 17:21Speaker 7: How the record got together, Like like we tell the
- 17:24Speaker 7: story of how we we were on Big. Like if
- 17:27Speaker 7: you look at listen to Life After Death, right one,
- 17:30Speaker 7: twelve is all like Big he shouts us out throughout
- 17:32Speaker 7: the whole album.
- 17:33Speaker 2: That's because we were in the studio with him.
- 17:36Speaker 7: Like so Daddy's house had the Neve, the S s
- 17:38Speaker 7: L and the in the pre production room, right, so
- 17:40Speaker 7: twelve is in the pre production room, Junior Mafia, Big
- 17:43Speaker 7: is all in the neve room. Seeds come out and
- 17:47Speaker 7: says yo, big one child. So we go in there.
- 17:51Speaker 7: From here up we smoked, right, so we can't see
- 17:54Speaker 7: where nobody's interest.
- 17:55Speaker 2: So we filled around.
- 17:57Speaker 7: So Big is just sitting there right, and and we
- 17:59Speaker 7: use this all that we use the word genius. We
- 18:00Speaker 7: throw the word genius out a lot, but this is
- 18:03Speaker 7: true definition of genius.
- 18:04Speaker 9: Right.
- 18:05Speaker 2: So we're walking in Big CS. He said, Yo, what up?
- 18:09Speaker 2: And that's it?
- 18:09Speaker 7: He says, nothing else, right, So everybody else, Junior Mafia,
- 18:12Speaker 7: they moving around, everybody's laughing, everybody's smoking, having a good time,
- 18:15Speaker 7: everybody's drinking. You know, twelve we baked out our minds
- 18:17Speaker 7: because we don't smoke.
- 18:21Speaker 2: We baked right.
- 18:22Speaker 7: So around two three hours later, Big it's like, yo,
- 18:24Speaker 7: I'm ready and the engineers like ready for what? So
- 18:27Speaker 7: dude gets up, going to the booth and does I
- 18:29Speaker 7: got a story to tell? One twelve CD blast Because
- 18:33Speaker 7: we were in the room with us, he's listening to
- 18:35Speaker 7: everybody's story. He's listening to Junior Mafia tell that story.
- 18:38Speaker 7: One twelve tell that story. And then he goes in
- 18:40Speaker 7: that doesn't write anything down, Now that's what a genius.
- 18:43Speaker 7: Like We saw that firsthand. Like this dude never wrote
- 18:46Speaker 7: anything him and faith, faith, like faith doesn't write anything
- 18:49Speaker 7: down either, Like so faith don't Faith don't write down there, Jesus, Yeah,
- 18:54Speaker 7: Faith don't write anything down. We watched her, Dude, you
- 18:56Speaker 7: abandoned me love don't live where we was at a what's.
- 19:00Speaker 2: The other studio?
- 19:01Speaker 10: Bro?
- 19:01Speaker 7: I forget what it's uh hit factory. She was a
- 19:05Speaker 7: hit factory well doing that record with Mary J. Blige
- 19:09Speaker 7: and she she just went in there and just did
- 19:10Speaker 7: the whole thing without.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Like, Yo, what the paper? She don't need no paper
- 19:14Speaker 2: or market and nothing like.
- 19:17Speaker 9: It.
- 19:17Speaker 2: From life, Speak and Faith to the only two I've
- 19:21Speaker 2: ever seen.
- 19:21Speaker 8: I got a story to tell just straight came him,
- 19:23Speaker 8: and he went at the hearing story.
- 19:25Speaker 7: He's watching everybody tell their story like and heated.
- 19:31Speaker 5: Perfect.
- 19:32Speaker 9: Bro.
- 19:32Speaker 2: He kind of say the hell out of that record.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Him and j Z the only people that do that.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right down there.
- 19:43Speaker 4: That is a gift for sure.
- 19:44Speaker 5: But back in the day, it's like R and B
- 19:46Speaker 5: used to celebrate like love and heartbreak, but now like
- 19:49Speaker 5: it feels transactional. What do you'all think made vulnerability cool
- 19:52Speaker 5: back then?
- 19:54Speaker 12: Well, you know, I just think that it was a time.
- 19:57Speaker 12: It was just a time period where you know, where
- 19:59Speaker 12: everything was going in the world. We used music as
- 20:02Speaker 12: our getaway. It was our medicine, you know what I'm saying.
- 20:05Speaker 12: Anybody remember the nineties when we came to the club
- 20:08Speaker 12: and we came anywhere. Everybody came to party, to dance.
- 20:11Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 20:13Speaker 12: You know, now you're going you go into places. I
- 20:15Speaker 12: don't know how it is too much here in New
- 20:17Speaker 12: York as much, but I know in Atlanta everybody's staring
- 20:20Speaker 12: at each other everywhere there on the phone, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 12: and it's like it's a different type of a feel.
- 20:27Speaker 12: So you know, so it's his homecoming, if it's homecoming, and.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Okay, that's true, but regular clubs.
- 20:34Speaker 12: But even when you say that, you know, the alumni
- 20:38Speaker 12: us cranking it up, you know what I'm saying.
- 20:41Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, back then R and B was
- 20:43Speaker 2: kind of it was more hyperbolic, you know what I mean.
- 20:45Speaker 2: It was.
- 20:46Speaker 7: It was, you know, good damn will. We're not climbing,
- 20:48Speaker 7: no highest mountain, swimming, no deeper sea, but we gave
- 20:51Speaker 7: you we're not doing all of that, but we gave
- 20:57Speaker 7: you the impression we sung it and maybe believe that
- 21:00Speaker 7: that that was possible. Anything was possible in there. And nowadays, man,
- 21:03Speaker 7: it's just it's different.
- 21:05Speaker 11: The music is too, and we came from good music
- 21:08Speaker 11: from my parents.
- 21:10Speaker 13: That I was about to say, I think the other
- 21:12Speaker 13: thing that did it was hip hop became more hyperbolic,
- 21:18Speaker 13: definitely a good word for that. But when it merged
- 21:21Speaker 13: with R and B so much, it became not cool
- 21:23Speaker 13: to have feelings. But I guess that's how people felt.
- 21:26Speaker 13: And then the strip cup club culture got involved. When
- 21:29Speaker 13: it's everything is that And I always say that, like
- 21:31Speaker 13: with everything that's going on in the world and people's lives,
- 21:34Speaker 13: you got to be able to sing about something more
- 21:35Speaker 13: than threesomes in the strip clubs, something else going on,
- 21:38Speaker 13: what I'm saying, And nobody really does that. Well, I
- 21:40Speaker 13: won't say nobody, but a lot of the music doesn't
- 21:43Speaker 13: have that no more. They don't have the feelings, that
- 21:44Speaker 13: don't have the vulnerability. Like you said, it's all trying to.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Be rappers, basically, all the things trying to and a
- 21:51Speaker 2: lot of that.
- 21:52Speaker 5: Technology so crazy because even the rappers back then, most
- 21:55Speaker 5: of the rappers back then, we loved him because they
- 21:57Speaker 5: were vulnerable. You love pot because he was vulnerable. You
- 21:59Speaker 5: love Big he was vulnerab Kanye.
- 22:00Speaker 10: Because he was because vulnerable.
- 22:03Speaker 2: You can't be vulnerable.
- 22:04Speaker 4: You were so vulnerable.
- 22:06Speaker 8: At the end of I think it's missing you. You said,
- 22:08Speaker 8: I can't sing no more.
- 22:09Speaker 10: I was fighting for my life, for my life singing
- 22:16Speaker 10: that song.
- 22:17Speaker 8: And I was all day listen. So when you said
- 22:19Speaker 8: I can't sing the more you really couldn't or you was.
- 22:22Speaker 10: No, I was sick. You were yeah.
- 22:24Speaker 13: And when I got there, what happened was I went
- 22:27Speaker 13: to LA on Monday to do Missing You. We're supposed
- 22:30Speaker 13: to do it on Tuesday. I don't know what happened.
- 22:32Speaker 13: My voice went out, so I spent all day Tuesday
- 22:34Speaker 13: Wednesday trying to get it back. And Thursday it came back.
- 22:38Speaker 13: So what did I do? I went hanging out with
- 22:40Speaker 13: Jah and so I went to the club and then
- 22:44Speaker 13: that night we did living it up. Then it left
- 22:47Speaker 13: again the next day because I was out all night.
- 22:48Speaker 13: So it got to Friday. It was like, we don't
- 22:50Speaker 13: do it today, we can't do it. So I went
- 22:53Speaker 13: in there. I was drinking stuff all day, wouldn't come back.
- 22:55Speaker 13: Got to his studios like he can't sing or talk,
- 22:58Speaker 13: so he's like, can you try right, I'm like all right,
- 23:00Speaker 13: So I went there once he said keep you do
- 23:02Speaker 13: it one more time and I got to the end
- 23:04Speaker 13: and I felt it going. I'm like and then I
- 23:07Speaker 13: said I can't sing. Nobody want to say it so
- 23:09Speaker 13: I sang it. That'm like, I'm knocking on the glass
- 23:11Speaker 13: and I.
- 23:21Speaker 10: Know that that was it. That was it years and
- 23:24Speaker 10: I'm knocking the mind. That's why they sing nothing else.
- 23:27Speaker 10: I came out and tapped him on the shoulder. I'm like,
- 23:29Speaker 10: and that was I just.
- 23:30Speaker 4: Literally thought you missed her so much that you can't now.
- 23:34Speaker 10: I was fighting for my life and then what crazy
- 23:36Speaker 10: thing about that?
- 23:37Speaker 13: I got nominated for Grammy.
- 23:42Speaker 10: But that's the craziest part. They nominated for Grammys for
- 23:44Speaker 10: both them.
- 23:44Speaker 4: Songs Amazing, which was crazy.
- 23:47Speaker 10: Man, I was fighting that night.
- 23:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:50Speaker 5: How do how do y'all balance egos? You know, you know,
- 23:54Speaker 5: when you're dealing with three legendary acts who all had
- 23:56Speaker 5: their individual moments, you know, gratitude.
- 24:01Speaker 7: It's it's a respect level, you know what I mean.
- 24:04Speaker 7: It's like because I'm I'm actually fans. Yeah, actually I
- 24:10Speaker 7: love that, and I know it sounds cliche with it,
- 24:12Speaker 7: but it's the truth. And you know, we we so
- 24:15Speaker 7: often we don't tell the truth. You know, we're getting
- 24:17Speaker 7: this type or form or whatever, but we are genuinely
- 24:20Speaker 7: like total was our first pick to be on this
- 24:22Speaker 7: Room one twelve tour case was our first pick to
- 24:25Speaker 7: be on this because in case his catalog, we just
- 24:27Speaker 7: spoke about his catalog ridiculous, total, ridiculous, one twelve ridiculous,
- 24:32Speaker 7: and we wanted to bring back that nineties nostalgia, you know,
- 24:35Speaker 7: and just bring back that whole era of I knew
- 24:37Speaker 7: where I was when I heard only You for the
- 24:39Speaker 7: first time, you know, I knew where I was when
- 24:41Speaker 7: I heard Cupid, when I heard I'm Missing You, and
- 24:43Speaker 7: when I heard can't you See for the first time,
- 24:45Speaker 7: Like I remember where I was when I heard these
- 24:48Speaker 7: It was to be where I was.
- 24:53Speaker 9: You know.
- 24:54Speaker 13: I think that ego is healthy on a tour, especially
- 24:57Speaker 13: like this, because you have to if you use it
- 24:59Speaker 13: the right way. Like for me, it's like, Okay, I'm
- 25:02Speaker 13: gonna try to kill everybody. They're gonna feel the same.
- 25:05Speaker 13: And then the fans the one that win, as opposed
- 25:07Speaker 13: to people who just go up there and don't care,
- 25:09Speaker 13: like I just got.
- 25:09Speaker 11: To We come from that, you got you got to
- 25:12Speaker 11: come from that, right, We come from that.
- 25:13Speaker 6: Came tour and be like, well, totally when twelve just killed,
- 25:17Speaker 6: y'all got Okay, that's how you.
- 25:20Speaker 10: Gotta do it.
- 25:22Speaker 13: Common and that's that's the because the only people that
- 25:25Speaker 13: win is the fans.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Was there ever a low time for y'all?
- 25:28Speaker 3: Because I feel like my daughter's twenty four and she
- 25:32Speaker 3: loves nineties music more than anything. R It's probably because
- 25:34Speaker 3: dad plays it in the house. Mom and Dad played
- 25:35Speaker 3: in the house.
- 25:36Speaker 1: But I just I feel like, was there a low time?
- 25:38Speaker 3: And then I feel like nineties just came back and
- 25:40Speaker 3: is stronger than even this year, is like.
- 25:43Speaker 1: This decade's music. Was it ever a low time for y'all?
- 25:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it definitely was.
- 25:49Speaker 7: I think for us, the resurgence of the nineties, you know,
- 25:52Speaker 7: was was something that was what we appreciated more than anything,
- 25:54Speaker 7: and that happened about what maybe almost like six seven
- 25:57Speaker 7: years ago.
- 25:58Speaker 12: It was like where the pandemic around that you didn't
- 26:01Speaker 12: know when you didn't know what the state of music
- 26:06Speaker 12: and how the industry and how we were going to
- 26:08Speaker 12: perform was going to be. Remember, everybody started experimenting with
- 26:12Speaker 12: the whole you know, taping, you know, and then the video.
- 26:17Speaker 12: It was just, yeah, I thought we were going to
- 26:19Speaker 12: just it's going to be that, you know, so so
- 26:23Speaker 12: much gratitude now to you know what I mean, see
- 26:25Speaker 12: it for where it is, and and we feel like
- 26:28Speaker 12: it's a blessing that of all the errors they chose.
- 26:32Speaker 5: To pick, they picked the nineties.
- 26:35Speaker 12: You know what I'm saying, So thank you.
- 26:37Speaker 5: I would want to go back, just I really want
- 26:38Speaker 5: to experience it in New.
- 26:39Speaker 11: York, like left at Me.
- 26:45Speaker 9: I think at that one time you left at Me time.
- 26:48Speaker 9: I just feel like the time that you guys were
- 26:51Speaker 9: like like the top, it was such a good time here.
- 26:54Speaker 9: It doesn't seem real, like when we hear the stories
- 26:57Speaker 9: or like I this y'all talk about just walking in
- 27:01Speaker 9: the studio, Big Biggie's just there and like, you know,
- 27:03Speaker 9: I can't imagine I'm young and just being like on top. Yeah,
- 27:08Speaker 9: like in that time, but.
- 27:10Speaker 7: You're working so hard that you don't even realize it,
- 27:12Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like you don't even realize
- 27:14Speaker 7: what it took us to step away from it, you know.
- 27:17Speaker 7: And and okay, we can use it as our downtime,
- 27:19Speaker 7: you know, and say that that was the time for
- 27:22Speaker 7: us to go back and look at it and say, man,
- 27:24Speaker 7: we we did more than just seeing you know, we
- 27:27Speaker 7: contributed to a culture like we we are part of.
- 27:30Speaker 2: History, you know. Culture. Yeah, so that was amazing.
- 27:35Speaker 7: It's looking at it now being older, like you're looking
- 27:37Speaker 7: at it now because my kids now they're they're going
- 27:39Speaker 7: back and they googling like dad, y'all, y'all did pieces
- 27:41Speaker 7: of green in the video? My kid, no, because I
- 27:48Speaker 7: don't go around I don't. I don't go around here looking, you.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Know, I don't. I don't do that.
- 27:52Speaker 7: You know, like they just they they grew up as
- 27:56Speaker 7: normal as I I hoped I could, because I could
- 28:00Speaker 7: teach them to be because it's such a mental strain
- 28:04Speaker 7: that the industry takes.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Like it gives, but.
- 28:06Speaker 7: It also takes. One of the things is, you know,
- 28:09Speaker 7: the lack of you know, the mental health that comes along.
- 28:14Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying with that, because you're you're
- 28:16Speaker 7: inundated with all of this. You know, you have to
- 28:19Speaker 7: be perfect every time you see you're out, you all,
- 28:22Speaker 7: your face has always got to be right, your clothes
- 28:24Speaker 7: got to always be right or man, they don't fell off, bro,
- 28:27Speaker 7: Like I just came from the jail, you know.
- 28:30Speaker 3: But I think the camera messed up. The camera messed
- 28:33Speaker 3: it up because when like the reason I.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Asked if he was out is I would see everybody
- 28:37Speaker 1: out right.
- 28:38Speaker 3: I was a kid growing up, so I would go
- 28:40Speaker 3: to grands toom and see y'all one hundred twenty fifth
- 28:42Speaker 3: stri I would go to the tunnel and see y'all
- 28:44Speaker 3: in the tunnel and different things, And there was no
- 28:45Speaker 3: VIP area. That's what it was, and it gave you
- 28:51Speaker 3: a connection with an artist, but there was no phone,
- 28:52Speaker 3: so it was no I'm taking a picture.
- 28:54Speaker 1: It was no The only thing that you would possibly.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Do if you want, and nobody want to look corny,
- 28:59Speaker 3: but you might ask for a order, but nobody wanted
- 29:00Speaker 3: to come to club and do that.
- 29:01Speaker 1: So it gave you you joined the moment, and I
- 29:04Speaker 1: feel like people are not enjoying the moment.
- 29:07Speaker 13: To the micro and everybody had I hate when you
- 29:09Speaker 13: come out on stage and everybody got a phone.
- 29:12Speaker 10: I'm like, it's happening right here in front of you.
- 29:15Speaker 13: And then for me anyway, I don't think that because
- 29:17Speaker 13: I think part of when you perform is the it's
- 29:19Speaker 13: how it sounds, is how it looks, but it's the
- 29:21Speaker 13: energy in the room, and you can never if you
- 29:23Speaker 13: go back and watch that, you're not going to get
- 29:25Speaker 13: that energy. The energy is right there in front of you.
- 29:27Speaker 13: Like for me, I would maybe take a picture, quick video,
- 29:30Speaker 13: then I would put my phone down.
- 29:31Speaker 10: I went to see Stevie wonder. I ain't even take
- 29:33Speaker 10: a picture.
- 29:34Speaker 13: I sat there because there's an energy that goes with it,
- 29:37Speaker 13: and I think a lot of people miss that because
- 29:39Speaker 13: you're like this and I'm like, yo, it's right in
- 29:41Speaker 13: front of you.
- 29:41Speaker 10: If you put the phone down, it's happening right.
- 29:43Speaker 8: There exactly because you got to watch the phone to
- 29:47Speaker 8: see if you got the singing off key.
- 29:50Speaker 13: And so I'm like, am I'm messing up? When I
- 29:51Speaker 13: see the videos, I'm like that's I'm like, hold on,
- 29:56Speaker 13: did I just ain't?
- 29:56Speaker 11: No way, I just did that.
- 29:58Speaker 10: I did that.
- 29:59Speaker 6: I'm like, man, I'm like, I've never went live ever
- 30:03Speaker 6: went live on Instagram, and I wasn't expecting this.
- 30:08Speaker 11: Beyonce came out and she just started speaking. I'm all live.
- 30:11Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm on live, y'all dos b and she
- 30:14Speaker 6: started speaking and I started crying. I was not expecting.
- 30:17Speaker 6: I was like, okay, guys, I gotta go. Literally, I
- 30:19Speaker 6: might have been filming for like ten seconds. You gotta
- 30:22Speaker 6: be in a moment because it's an experience, you know
- 30:25Speaker 6: what I mean?
- 30:25Speaker 5: Watching it back is no, it's not I wanted to
- 30:28Speaker 5: ask you, Kim what was your household like growing up?
- 30:30Speaker 5: Because I got four daughters, and you know, a couple
- 30:32Speaker 5: of them express wanting to be in the arts. You
- 30:34Speaker 5: and your sister Vita, y'all actually made it happen with that,
- 30:38Speaker 5: your parents pushing y'all to both be in the industry of.
- 30:40Speaker 10: What was no.
- 30:42Speaker 9: God's plan. Vita was always a lot more outgoing than me,
- 30:48Speaker 9: so it wasn't surprising for me that she got into it. No,
- 30:52Speaker 9: like my mama had us in church. You know, my
- 30:58Speaker 9: mom was what's a struggle for her? So like I know,
- 31:02Speaker 9: for me, all I wanted to do was just be successful.
- 31:05Speaker 9: I wind up singing. We sung in the choir and
- 31:07Speaker 9: stuff like that. But I wind up being in a
- 31:09Speaker 9: group and entertaining the industry through Keisha. When we became friends,
- 31:13Speaker 9: she heard me sing, but it was just something that
- 31:16Speaker 9: we just always did. My mom sung back up for Ritha.
- 31:18Speaker 9: Franklin grew up in that era, but it was pretty
- 31:22Speaker 9: normal at home. Like I really honestly didn't have time
- 31:27Speaker 9: to dream because I was so busy trying to figure out, Okay,
- 31:30Speaker 9: how I'm gonna help my mom. Like I needed to work,
- 31:34Speaker 9: So you know, that was my plan as soon as
- 31:38Speaker 9: I was old enough. So Nope, she didn't push us.
- 31:41Speaker 9: She supported us like she was our number one fan,
- 31:43Speaker 9: but she didn't push us to be into it.
- 31:46Speaker 11: Being an.
- 31:48Speaker 9: Missy Elliott. Oh, Missy tove that she had a rap
- 31:52Speaker 9: voice and be don't stop rapping.
- 31:55Speaker 5: So this is this when y'all did What About Us?
- 31:57Speaker 5: So I was it around this time?
- 31:59Speaker 9: Well, yeah, like Missy, we had met Missy before she
- 32:03Speaker 9: started writing What About Us and stuff like cause, like
- 32:05Speaker 9: you said, everybody kind of hung around each other.
- 32:08Speaker 11: So Missy we became a while too.
- 32:11Speaker 9: We became Missy and I was really close at one
- 32:13Speaker 9: time and she was out my house at Jersey and
- 32:15Speaker 9: her Vita talking and she told Vito you should rap.
- 32:17Speaker 9: Beta started rapping.
- 32:19Speaker 7: Wow, got a story for that too. So Missy used
- 32:21Speaker 7: to hang out at Daddy's house all the time. Yeah,
- 32:24Speaker 7: and so she was like, yo, puff, I want to
- 32:26Speaker 7: get on this record. So we wrote a record for
- 32:28Speaker 7: Geena Thompson. We wrote that right Missy came in. She
- 32:32Speaker 7: was like, yo, I need to get on this jone.
- 32:33Speaker 7: I need to get on it. And then that's the
- 32:35Speaker 7: first time you heard her do the.
- 32:39Speaker 2: The record.
- 32:40Speaker 7: That was the first time that you know, she was
- 32:41Speaker 7: in Sister, She was in the Girl Sister at that point,
- 32:44Speaker 7: but she had came up and she was like, Yo,
- 32:45Speaker 7: I need to get on one of these records, this record,
- 32:47Speaker 7: one twelve them I'm writing there.
- 32:49Speaker 2: So she was just all the time.
- 32:51Speaker 7: She was just in Daddy's house, man, And that was
- 32:52Speaker 7: the energy that was around bad boys, Like we were
- 32:55Speaker 7: just all in each other's studio, like he might come
- 32:58Speaker 7: in here and seeing this real quick Faith, you know,
- 33:00Speaker 7: come in and seeing this record, Like a lot of
- 33:02Speaker 7: times it wasn't, you know, just it was by design.
- 33:05Speaker 7: It was really just being in the room at the
- 33:07Speaker 7: right place at the right time, you know, and just
- 33:09Speaker 7: and that's making them have his.
- 33:10Speaker 13: Faith wrote the song that got me signed to Shit
- 33:12Speaker 13: Wow Wow, Crazy Wow. It was a song called Don't
- 33:17Speaker 13: Be Afraid and Misai, who was managing me at the time,
- 33:20Speaker 13: got Faith to write it. Which there's a hilarious story
- 33:24Speaker 13: for that though. We had to me and my homeboy
- 33:26Speaker 13: KB shout out to Murray. We went to you know,
- 33:29Speaker 13: you had to get the actual CD. So we had
- 33:31Speaker 13: a rental car. We drive to Brooklyn to meet Faith
- 33:33Speaker 13: to at that crib. She plays it for me. I
- 33:35Speaker 13: take the CD, big comes in. He don't know us.
- 33:39Speaker 13: It's ninety four, so he like, She's like, yeah, this case,
- 33:44Speaker 13: he's an artist, blah blah blah.
- 33:45Speaker 10: He's looking.
- 33:46Speaker 13: So we leave, We go outside the round. The car
- 33:48Speaker 13: won't start. They leave and come back. We're still sitting
- 33:53Speaker 13: there because we're trying to call somebody to come. Were
- 33:56Speaker 13: sitting outside the crib for like maybe three and a
- 33:58Speaker 13: half hours. I'm like, we look suspect as hell.
- 34:01Speaker 2: It's up.
- 34:02Speaker 13: Were sitting there. I'm like, yo, if I was there,
- 34:04Speaker 13: I start shooting. I hope they don't. So we sitting there.
- 34:07Speaker 13: Finally we leave, and then when they had it was
- 34:10Speaker 13: a radio station that I was. I was hosting. They
- 34:12Speaker 13: was I was coming out, Big was coming in and
- 34:13Speaker 13: we laughed about it, but he remembered that. I'm like, yo,
- 34:16Speaker 13: this looks crazy to call with. And I'm like, yeah,
- 34:18Speaker 13: we're sitting across from his crib. Now it's dark. He
- 34:21Speaker 13: two strangers that was just in the crib. I'm like, yeah,
- 34:23Speaker 13: this is crazy.
- 34:25Speaker 10: Then it was cell phone.
- 34:30Speaker 13: We were going to the cell phones.
- 34:34Speaker 10: This was in ninety four.
- 34:35Speaker 1: That's write a lot for Total. I heard he used
- 34:41Speaker 1: to write a lot for Total. No, that's not true,
- 34:43Speaker 1: that's not true.
- 34:43Speaker 11: That's no.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 34:45Speaker 6: I just posted the other day and I wrote, tell
- 34:48Speaker 6: me what you want? Really, I mean, I said, tell
- 34:51Speaker 6: me what you want?
- 34:51Speaker 11: Tell me.
- 34:52Speaker 6: So that's when Omar and I were just friends and
- 34:56Speaker 6: he would drive out to Jersey and we would just
- 34:58Speaker 6: listen to music, free style, out of music.
- 35:00Speaker 11: I played him. I was like, this is a song
- 35:02Speaker 11: that they attracted. They just gave us. We just started freestyling,
- 35:06Speaker 11: took the puff.
- 35:07Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, this is crazy.
- 35:09Speaker 11: We played it, Faith came in, Faith pinned some more.
- 35:13Speaker 11: That's made that album.
- 35:14Speaker 3: Most people don't know Omar was a rapper, adult rapper
- 35:16Speaker 3: from course, a dancer and then dancing, A rapper, yeah,
- 35:20Speaker 3: a singer.
- 35:21Speaker 1: I didn't know the singer part.
- 35:22Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I can't sing vision.
- 35:34Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 35:34Speaker 6: They were I think I want to say death Jam.
- 35:37Speaker 6: Really yeah, they were like signed to death Jam.
- 35:40Speaker 7: And really sing yeah, thank you.
- 35:48Speaker 10: Yeah. But I remember, I remember he was in it
- 35:52Speaker 10: before they signed.
- 35:54Speaker 5: I want to asked she and Keeme it back in
- 36:01Speaker 5: the day. What made y'all decide to go up to
- 36:04Speaker 5: the radio station and press. Wendy Williams like, what did
- 36:08Speaker 5: she say to y'all that that caused y'all said, you know,
- 36:11Speaker 5: we got to go see her there. No, hell no, wait,
- 36:15Speaker 5: before my time. How was the nineties right?
- 36:18Speaker 10: Yeah?
- 36:19Speaker 11: I think yeah.
- 36:24Speaker 6: The window when it was in the window, you know,
- 36:29Speaker 6: and she was playing with our money.
- 36:31Speaker 11: She just was disrespectful.
- 36:32Speaker 6: Yeah, and we had already sent the warning and then
- 36:36Speaker 6: she just kept saying like first Wendy was just like, oh,
- 36:39Speaker 6: we got something.
- 36:40Speaker 11: And then we came up. We came up to the
- 36:43Speaker 11: radio station. We sang.
- 36:44Speaker 6: She was like, oh we sang a cappella. She was like, oh,
- 36:46Speaker 6: y'all can sing. And it was that it was just like, oh,
- 36:48Speaker 6: that's your jersey, and I hear that they can't pay
- 36:51Speaker 6: rent and they can't pay their rent and stuff. And
- 36:53Speaker 6: we were like, you know what, enough is enough because
- 36:55Speaker 6: at that time, that's all she was doing. It's like, listen,
- 36:58Speaker 6: you know, when we get these optunities as black artists,
- 37:02Speaker 6: we gotta uplift them and talk about your opportivity that
- 37:05Speaker 6: they do right. Instead of you give a moment a
- 37:08Speaker 6: blitz of something that they did positive and then something
- 37:11Speaker 6: that happened negative, you're playing that all day.
- 37:14Speaker 11: So we were just like enough is enough. K was like,
- 37:16Speaker 11: can we go up there?
- 37:22Speaker 9: Because I didn't, you know, I know, politically we would
- 37:24Speaker 9: have been in trouble for but he just went up there.
- 37:26Speaker 9: So we asked permission and he didn't say.
- 37:29Speaker 6: He was like, go ahead with what is that that
- 37:34Speaker 6: you had to say? And she was like no, no, no,
- 37:37Speaker 6: talk that stuff right now. And then her her husband
- 37:40Speaker 6: at the time security, he had said something to our
- 37:42Speaker 6: security like come on, man, come on, and she ran
- 37:44Speaker 6: to the car.
- 37:45Speaker 11: She got in the.
- 37:46Speaker 6: Car, and then we never heard no more from her.
- 37:53Speaker 5: No, she just tells the story. You say, y'all sent
- 37:54Speaker 5: her a warner. Was you all the want to sit
- 37:55Speaker 5: the fish?
- 37:56Speaker 13: No, I don't really want you to. Boss said that
- 38:06Speaker 13: dead fish in the male Yeah, somebody said that he
- 38:09Speaker 13: sleeps with the fishes.
- 38:10Speaker 10: Yet he said that.
- 38:11Speaker 13: She said that I was Boston messing piece of boss
- 38:16Speaker 13: around that time. It happened around the time when I
- 38:18Speaker 13: just signed and I just met her shout out there too.
- 38:21Speaker 13: She passed a few years ago. But yeah, I didn't
- 38:24Speaker 13: even know about that Wendy you used to. I can't
- 38:26Speaker 13: say nothing about Wendy because she would find out stuff
- 38:29Speaker 13: about me, but she never she would call me and
- 38:31Speaker 13: be like, look this was I'm hearing and she would
- 38:34Speaker 13: send me the faxes. I don't know why she looked
- 38:36Speaker 13: out for me. I'm glad she did because, uh some
- 38:39Speaker 13: of it. Some of it was dead on No, not
- 38:41Speaker 13: a crush.
- 38:42Speaker 5: On me, right, But the reason I missed that was
- 38:45Speaker 5: because y'all was able to pull up on people. Now,
- 38:48Speaker 5: people just be in the basement behind the computers talking.
- 38:52Speaker 2: That's the worst.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go, guys, I don't know why they said.
- 39:00Speaker 8: Damn all right, real quick, all right, I went two
- 39:04Speaker 8: more questions. Did y'all like Tianna Taylor?
- 39:08Speaker 9: Uh?
- 39:09Speaker 4: How you want it?
- 39:10Speaker 2: Right?
- 39:10Speaker 4: Because she's sampled? Tell me y'all like that?
- 39:14Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 39:16Speaker 8: I love that? Okay, perfect? And k King Holmes is
- 39:21Speaker 8: on it as well. But yeah, I thought that was
- 39:23Speaker 8: that was about that took back you know what I'm
- 39:26Speaker 8: saying Like, I thought.
- 39:27Speaker 11: That was dope, stay tuned saying something with that.
- 39:31Speaker 8: Okay, a little case, yo, the best man I can be.
- 39:39Speaker 8: Now with all those egos you got, jim tyres r
- 39:44Speaker 8: o in yourself, how did that studio session go?
- 39:47Speaker 4: I felt like it.
- 39:49Speaker 13: Was cool, but I'm gonna tell you it probably would
- 39:51Speaker 13: have not been as cool. But it's Jimmy, Jimmy Terry Lewis,
- 39:53Speaker 13: so yeah, you're gonna kind of act right even if
- 39:56Speaker 13: you don't want to.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Okay, So it's them, did y'all record at once?
- 39:59Speaker 10: Like we all flew in him card at the same time. Yo,
- 40:02Speaker 10: I was the last one.
- 40:03Speaker 13: I got there because my flight got delayed. But yeah,
- 40:05Speaker 13: we was all there. Actually, I was having a party
- 40:07Speaker 13: at Jimmy's a platinum party at night that I missed
- 40:10Speaker 13: because I had to go up there and do that.
- 40:11Speaker 13: But it was cool because it's Jam and Lewis, like,
- 40:13Speaker 13: you ain't gonna get in there, and I asked with them.
- 40:16Speaker 4: That was the funniest music video I've ever seen.
- 40:19Speaker 1: I'll be seeing the memes now.
- 40:20Speaker 8: Y'all was going in soho who did the most?
- 40:24Speaker 10: I don't know. I was worried about me at.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Talking about in the video.
- 40:27Speaker 4: Shoot who do you feel did the most?
- 40:29Speaker 5: Always back then?
- 40:35Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but who do you think did the most?
- 40:38Speaker 4: Is definitely did the most?
- 40:39Speaker 13: I think be probably out of r l in Terre's okay,
- 40:43Speaker 13: because I seen the mean reason he was like, Yo,
- 40:45Speaker 13: Terry's threw the hat and face. I'm like, I never
- 40:48Speaker 13: noticed that. I think that was a I think he
- 40:50Speaker 13: was throwing it and he walked I don't know. I
- 40:52Speaker 13: was high. I was high, and I'm looking at them.
- 40:57Speaker 13: I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing all that. Hit the
- 40:58Speaker 13: blood again, I'm like, I'm not.
- 41:00Speaker 10: Yes, We're my glasses.
- 41:01Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite songs.
- 41:02Speaker 8: But I just always wanted to ask one of y'all
- 41:04Speaker 8: who did the most, because the most was done.
- 41:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.
- 41:07Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now that it wasn't no Jamie
- 41:10Speaker 13: Lewis there, so I already knew that was gonna be
- 41:11Speaker 13: different from the session.
- 41:13Speaker 10: Yeah, that was gonna be a thing.
- 41:15Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's what I wanted to Yeah.
- 41:16Speaker 5: Yeah, when the talk kicks off, what do you want
- 41:18Speaker 5: fans to feel when they see all of y'all on stage?
- 41:23Speaker 2: That nostalgia?
- 41:24Speaker 7: Man, we want, we want, we want how we're talking
- 41:26Speaker 7: about the nineties and and just bringing back that area
- 41:29Speaker 7: we won't we want with so much BS that's going
- 41:32Speaker 7: on in the world, that we want to be what
- 41:34Speaker 7: we set out to be, which is a refuge for
- 41:36Speaker 7: all that BS.
- 41:37Speaker 2: You know that's going on in the in the real world.
- 41:39Speaker 7: So if we can give you an hour, an hour
- 41:42Speaker 7: and a half, three hours of just being able to
- 41:45Speaker 7: separate yourself from Bills and these bad ass kids hours
- 41:50Speaker 7: just for a little while, Like that's that's what we're
- 41:52Speaker 7: you know, that's our mission. You know, we want we
- 41:54Speaker 7: want to feel the nostalgia. I want to go back
- 41:57Speaker 7: and listen to all the records that because we're in
- 41:59Speaker 7: the you know, rehearsal now and in total show is amazing, tough.
- 42:04Speaker 6: So it was one twelve, crazy, high energy when everybody
- 42:08Speaker 6: have a good time to have, you.
- 42:09Speaker 2: Know, just good just reminisce.
- 42:11Speaker 7: Yeah, November thirteenth, we will be in Brooklyn was the
- 42:21Speaker 7: King Stairs. Yeah, we'll Stafford, Connecticut on.
- 42:26Speaker 2: The twelve twelve.
- 42:27Speaker 1: That's so many questions. You got to know, we appreciate it.
- 42:30Speaker 1: I just gotta ask one. Mo'm sorry, no one else.
- 42:33Speaker 9: Beat.
- 42:33Speaker 3: Were y'all confused when you first heard that beat? No no,
- 42:36Speaker 3: because there was snares all over that place.
- 42:39Speaker 11: We did not know what was going to be put
- 42:42Speaker 11: over it?
- 42:43Speaker 6: Okay, because that was Terry once again Terry Robinson.
- 42:46Speaker 11: It's like, how are you going to write over there?
- 42:49Speaker 10: What I said?
- 42:50Speaker 3: I heard?
- 42:51Speaker 6: It went crazy. It's one of my favorites. Hard if
- 42:57Speaker 6: we could just get all of those acts on on
- 43:00Speaker 6: the stage one day, We're gonna stay hopeful.
- 43:03Speaker 3: Yeah yeah wow brand Its crazy alright, Well, thank you
- 43:08Speaker 3: guys for joining us.
- 43:09Speaker 1: One twelve to one, get them, take it, and it's
- 43:14Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Good morning every.
- 43:17Speaker 5: Day a week ago, click your ass up The Breakfast Club.
- 43:21Speaker 10: Finish for y'all.
- 43:22Speaker 1: Dump