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The DiCecco Daily Special Pod: Catching Up With Former Eagles FB Josh Parry · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of the check Odaily,
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  Speaker 1: A special edition of the Checkodaii. It's Andrew Dechecko here,
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  Speaker 1: Eagles Beat reporter friendsidethbirds dot Com, and I'm joined today
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  Speaker 1: by former Eagles and Seahawks fullback Josh Perry. Josh played
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  Speaker 1: three seasons in the NFL thirty seven games twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: with the Eagles, and these are stories that I always
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  Speaker 1: wanted to share, and I think his story of perseverance
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  Speaker 1: is something that will really resonate with the audience. So, Josh,
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  Speaker 1: before we get started, how's everything going on your end?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Great? You know, I get to still be around
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  Speaker 2: the game. I'm a high school coach in California, Northern
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  Speaker 2: California at del Oro High School, so I still get
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  Speaker 2: to share those special bonds and memories and the times
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  Speaker 2: of being on the field. And it was such a
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  Speaker 2: special time. I remember those guys we were with and
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  Speaker 2: playing in Super Bowl thirty nine, and it's just fun
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  Speaker 2: to just how much realize how much the game gives
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  Speaker 2: to so many people, and to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: that fraternity is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So let's go back to the beginning here, and
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  Speaker 1: you started forty three games at San Jose State. You
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  Speaker 1: were second team All wac All whack as a senior.
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  Speaker 1: What was the pre draft process like for you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? It was exciting, man, it was fun. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: playing backer. I was a defensive guy growing up, and
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  Speaker 2: that challenge is stopping somebody. I just love langbacker, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I played in college San Jose and
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  Speaker 2: met some great people, met my wife, and then I
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  Speaker 2: had a chance to play it. I remember Ron Rivera
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  Speaker 2: was the linebackers because for Andy and Philadelphia, and he
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  Speaker 2: called me talking about drafting me. Maybe I thought I
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  Speaker 2: was going to get draft. Well it didn't happen. I
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  Speaker 2: was a free agent, so okay. And Ron I remember
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  Speaker 2: just feeling different about coach Vera. He was special. It
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  Speaker 2: was fun to be Jim learning from Jim Johnson, Jereed Trott,
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  Speaker 2: playing with Trot, Dawkins, Lee, Tho, Troy, Vincent, Bobby Taylor,
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  Speaker 2: all those great defensive teams, and to be in that
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  Speaker 2: in those meeting rooms, Javon Kurz just fun, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and all those guys learning from taking notes and trying
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  Speaker 2: to make a team, you know, and they got sent
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  Speaker 2: over to NFL Europe. Ron wanted me to play and
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  Speaker 2: get some time, and I met some great guys over there,
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  Speaker 2: played for Frankfurt Galaxy, had a great time, such a
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  Speaker 2: cool experience. Came back, got cut a couple of times,
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  Speaker 2: and then uh Andy asked me to move to fullback
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  Speaker 2: and play with John Ritchie and ended up being a
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  Speaker 2: great friend of mine, backing him up on special teams.
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  Speaker 2: Uh learning offensive side of the ball, the West Coast offense,
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  Speaker 2: learning from Don and t O and Westbrook, and meetings
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  Speaker 2: and all those great players on those teams, and just
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  Speaker 2: such great guys. There's such a I'll pull you and
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  Speaker 2: help you along group, you know, being in the old line.
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  Speaker 2: My roommate was Hank Freiley, bun learning, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: with him starting at center, from Robert Morris, you know,
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  Speaker 2: small just a special time, a special place, the fans,
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  Speaker 2: the East Coast. I'm a California kid, so to be
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  Speaker 2: to have some years, four or five years of that,
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  Speaker 2: it was just great experience, great time. My kid two
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  Speaker 2: of my daughters were born back there while I was
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  Speaker 2: in camp, So such a great time in my life,
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  Speaker 2: my family's life, and to have those bonds with all
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  Speaker 2: those great coaches that are now head guys Ron, you know,
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  Speaker 2: doing his thing. Harbaugh was our special teams guy, Sean
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  Speaker 2: McDermott was in our defensive meeting room guys. All those
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  Speaker 2: guys became head less, frasier, all those guys that we
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  Speaker 2: were a part of. And then to see them all
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  Speaker 2: spread and take what they learned from all those great men,
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  Speaker 2: and you don't have to be a part of that.
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  Speaker 2: And then to share with high school kids like I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing now, it's just special.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get into your pro career, Josh, I
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  Speaker 1: understand that your brother, Neil, who I believe played safety
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  Speaker 1: on the San Jose State defense with you for a time,
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  Speaker 1: had a profound impact on your career, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: he still does. So would you be able to share
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  Speaker 1: the story of Neil for those who aren't privy to it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I think it's a it's a really powerful one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, it was. That was crazy. You know. I
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  Speaker 2: got had a chance to play with my brother. He
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  Speaker 2: came to San Jose State as a walk on, didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what he was going to do after schools. I say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: come down live with live with me, man, just see
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  Speaker 2: what it's like. And they ended up doing a great
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  Speaker 2: job making the team or being our special team leader,
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  Speaker 2: and it was awesome, so much fun. Was a sophomore
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  Speaker 2: year running down on a kickoff, guy got thrown into
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  Speaker 2: his leg, compound fracture came out. It was, you know, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's get surger. Everything can be fine. Well it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Got infected, ended up getting amputated. And so to see
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  Speaker 2: that process and he ended up coming back and playing
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  Speaker 2: two three years later. You know, the prosthetic running down
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  Speaker 2: on kick punt return or kick off, and to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of that process when I was trying to
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  Speaker 2: make the Eagles, he was going through that coming back playing.
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  Speaker 2: So we were pushing each other and then I ended
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  Speaker 2: up making it, you know, starting some games, playing some
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  Speaker 2: full back and two thousand and five coming back after
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and being part of those teams. And
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  Speaker 2: while he was doing the same time, he was trying
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  Speaker 2: to play with a prosthetic. Well ended up we both did.
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  Speaker 2: And to be pushing each other through that those hard
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  Speaker 2: times when you don't see the end of the light
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  Speaker 2: of the tunnel was special and created a special bond
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  Speaker 2: between us. And now he's coaching the high school down
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  Speaker 2: in the Bay Area, Saint Francis and I just set
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  Speaker 2: up a game that we're playing next year. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a special friendship, brother family. Teaching so much
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  Speaker 2: that we we we uh did for each other. That was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something you'll never forget.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: And so you mentioned Ron Rivera and how he had
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  Speaker 1: an impact on you as you were coming out of
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  Speaker 1: San Jose State. What do you remember from visiting with
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  Speaker 1: Ron as you were going through the pre draft process.
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  Speaker 2: I just remember him as a teacher, a mentor. I
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  Speaker 2: remember first, you know, meetings, if you showed up early, man,
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  Speaker 2: we were going through stuff. He was just always how
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  Speaker 2: can I help you? Uh? He was the That's what
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  Speaker 2: leaders do, right, They serve how can I help you?
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  Speaker 2: How can I help you be better? And just the
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  Speaker 2: way he was with the guys, the respect, uh those
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then to have them believe in you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's no more powerful words than I believe
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  Speaker 2: in you. And and and to realize that, man, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what level that's at. When when somebody's like
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  Speaker 2: that with you, you just you find a way to
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  Speaker 2: give more. And I always remember that about them when
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  Speaker 2: it was it was it stuck with.
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  Speaker 1: Me, what influenced your decision to sign with the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you had a number of other teams that
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  Speaker 1: were courting you after the draft, and the Eagles had
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Trotter, Mike Caldwell, and Carlos Emmons. I agree, So
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  Speaker 1: it was a crowded house there, Josh. What influenced you
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  Speaker 1: to sign there?
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  Speaker 2: I I number one was wrong and calling me and
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  Speaker 2: personally communicating with them, And number two, it was what
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  Speaker 2: they were building. Man. It was to you want to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of something. You want to be uh,
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  Speaker 2: you want to be at the best right and that
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  Speaker 2: I was where I want to be able to learn
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  Speaker 2: from those guys. I want it to be hard. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want it to be easy. And then you know,
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  Speaker 2: so I just remember and then to to the off
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  Speaker 2: the field stuff that they do as a unit to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of that, you know, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was just attractive. It was. It was such
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  Speaker 2: a great uh mix of guys, different backgrounds where they're from,
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  Speaker 2: and just such a team that you just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Training camp at that point was held at Lehigh University
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  Speaker 1: and practices were quite intense. Were you briefed at all
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  Speaker 1: as to how Andy Reid conducted practices prior to training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you knew right when you walked in the building.
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  Speaker 2: This is different. You learn in Ota is when they're
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  Speaker 2: coming in the spring, you know. And then to be
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  Speaker 2: at that Lehigh University in a small college where people
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  Speaker 2: get to come see you and you're at the you're
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  Speaker 2: on the grass fields and it's the call. It it
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  Speaker 2: just it just was special. I remember sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: ice tubs and big old tubs afterwards together lifting, you know,
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  Speaker 2: driving over the hill morning practice and it was a grind,
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  Speaker 2: it was, but it got you ready for what you
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  Speaker 2: were about to experience. And it really separated right who
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  Speaker 2: was there for the love and who wasn't. And that
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  Speaker 2: was that was a fun experience, and they made sure
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  Speaker 2: you knew. And then by the way, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was hey, it was ones and ones. It was best.
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  Speaker 2: It was we're going and it was fun for the fans.
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  Speaker 2: I remember all the fans and the scrimmaging and the
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  Speaker 2: signing after and just a cool experience. Said, at that
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  Speaker 2: camp up there and the way they do it, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure Andy's still doing the same where he's at now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not finding a way to do you know those things. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it was fun, man, some great great competition.
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  Speaker 1: Were there any veterans who showed you the ropes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Ton of the number one Richie, you know, learning
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  Speaker 2: from him meetings fun to learn from a guy that
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  Speaker 2: was all pro. You know, he was the best fullback
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  Speaker 2: in the league at the time. And to be in
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  Speaker 2: those meetings, learning from having put his arm around you, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you got it, uh, Coy Deptmer learning from him going
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  Speaker 2: reps with the cook you know two's uh, and then
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  Speaker 2: being a great friend of mine, all those linemen, man,
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  Speaker 2: being in those meetings, run Game Coach Castillo and Big
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  Speaker 2: Tray and run and all those you know, may Berry
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  Speaker 2: and it's just they were all so welcoming. Hey, let's go. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It was always you know, hey, I got you know,
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  Speaker 2: they got it, and you get your job done and
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  Speaker 2: then you earn it and then I just remember it
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  Speaker 2: didn't matter, you know, And it was such a and
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  Speaker 2: that's why we ended up, you know, getting so much
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  Speaker 2: done together. It was just a different group, different guys.
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  Speaker 2: The way they felt about each other, treated each each other,
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  Speaker 2: did things in the off season, did things in the
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  Speaker 2: season during the holidays, that guy over at guy's house,
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  Speaker 2: all those I just remember them all like that, every
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  Speaker 2: single one. I could name them all off the top
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  Speaker 2: of my head. In the locker room, in the training room, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going to playgrounds to build for the elementary schools,
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  Speaker 2: just all that stuff. I was never did they did
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  Speaker 2: anybody not feel welcome? In part?
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  Speaker 1: How how was it that you and Hank Frehley were
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  Speaker 1: paired as roommates?
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  Speaker 2: A good question you'd have to ask, Andy. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I know, you get you get your best in status
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  Speaker 2: and you get your own room. Well I wasn't there
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  Speaker 2: yet either. Was fun, but we spent some time together,
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  Speaker 2: had some great times, probably because we were similar, small
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  Speaker 2: college guys, you know, not drafted, uh, trying to grind
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  Speaker 2: and then oh man, those guys can play, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then they, you know, all of a sudden were
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  Speaker 2: real similar and it was fun, you know. And then
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  Speaker 2: to see him still coaching now and doing his thing
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  Speaker 2: and his kids. Man, it was just special. Man, I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe how fast time goes.
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  Speaker 1: You're not kidding. So now, obviously the Eagles whole training
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  Speaker 1: camp at the Novacare Complex, but back in your time Josh.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously there were the dorms. So what wasn't essential for
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  Speaker 1: you to have in the dorms to help pass the
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  Speaker 1: time when you weren't studying and you weren't going to
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  Speaker 1: meetings and practice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, that's funny, man, because it really wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Cell phones were still new. All that kind of was new,
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't like it is now. And so the
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  Speaker 2: number one thing for me was probably true. Man, what
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  Speaker 2: a question I'd say, I'd say the playbook really, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest, because I spent a lot of time studying,
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  Speaker 2: I really did. I didn't want to. I didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to look I can say I didn't give it my
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  Speaker 2: best shot. So to have those playbooks that those guys
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  Speaker 2: used to hand out, you know, the finders and I
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  Speaker 2: that was it taught me a lot that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different guys learn different ways. Make sure you have
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  Speaker 2: a hard copy a soft copy. Only all have options
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  Speaker 2: for guys. Because that playbook for me when they handed
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  Speaker 2: it to me, and that got me through a lot
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  Speaker 2: of a lot. And then obviously the guys, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being together at the dorms, it was fun. We played
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  Speaker 2: ping pong and all kinds of stuff in those Lee
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  Speaker 2: High dorms and it was a great time. Man. It
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  Speaker 2: was a grind, but it was worth it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you look at it and you were
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  Speaker 1: among the final cuts in two thousand and one. Then
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  Speaker 1: you spend that season with the Raiders on their practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: But then the Eagles signed you to a reserve futures
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  Speaker 1: deal and they allocate you to NFL Europe. Played for
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  Speaker 1: the Frankfurt Galaxy. I have to know what that experience
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  Speaker 1: was like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I tell you, man, best decision I made to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm in what do you need? Met some great guys,
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  Speaker 2: great guys that were in the singular spots you know,
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  Speaker 2: on that right there, you're right there. We need you
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  Speaker 2: when you see a little more. And so to play
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  Speaker 2: with some of the guys I got to play with
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  Speaker 2: over there in a different country, learning different uh culture,
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  Speaker 2: learning different languages, learning learning different customs. But but still
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  Speaker 2: people coming because they love the game and they love
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  Speaker 2: to be part of something. And man, uh, what a
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  Speaker 2: great three months. My wife coming over there, my my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: my oldest daughter, she was a baby. We just had
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  Speaker 2: it was just us and to do some of the
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  Speaker 2: things we got to do, go see Barcelona, Scotland. We've
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  Speaker 2: been played in Scotland, uh down in Amsterdam and the
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  Speaker 2: three teams in Frankfurt. Is just I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I would have had that opportunity if I didn't take
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  Speaker 2: that and to experience those things. I know it It'll
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  Speaker 2: stay with me forever every time I see some of
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  Speaker 2: the you know, my wife got a staying or something
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  Speaker 2: where we went and you know, I didn't think anything
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  Speaker 2: of it at the time, and now I see it
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  Speaker 2: just really cool experience that the NFL was offering at
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  Speaker 2: that time. It ends up being now the UFL and
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  Speaker 2: they're doing it in the States. But man, that was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That was probably the funnest couple of months I've had
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  Speaker 2: playing the game for the pure love of the game,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in my life was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel at that point that the best way
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  Speaker 1: for you to ultimately develop was to simply get reps?
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like that really afforded you that opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, totally, totally. And that's what it was. It was
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  Speaker 2: just playing, just going to play, just you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was worried about the winds, wasn't about the losses, just
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  Speaker 2: just how you're going to move on to the next play,
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  Speaker 2: keep learning, keep grinding. It's all about timing. It's all
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  Speaker 2: about all those lessons right that you think are cliches,
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  Speaker 2: they're not. You're just you're just going with guys in
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  Speaker 2: a similar spot, trying to trying to impress, trying to
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  Speaker 2: make a team, trying to be a teammate, trying to
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  Speaker 2: be a good dude, a good person, and and and
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  Speaker 2: to be together was was special.
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  Speaker 1: So you're you're back in Eagles camp in the summer
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  Speaker 1: of two thousand and two. You're obviously well versed in
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  Speaker 1: the defense you have, You're better acquitted there. How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel that summer went for you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I thought I thought. I thought I was there? Man,
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  Speaker 2: I did. I thought I was. It was you know,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I had made it. I thought, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: got I got a backup, it was gonna be on
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  Speaker 2: special teams. I'm in the number, playing well. I thought
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  Speaker 2: I was playing well, playing well if it was confident,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and that's what those reps. Did you feel
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  Speaker 2: like you belong? You know, let's shoot, let's go play.
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  Speaker 2: Ended up getting hurt the last preseason game playing up
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  Speaker 2: with the Jets, got rolled my knee up on, ended
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  Speaker 2: up signing an injury settlement, getting cut after thinking I
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  Speaker 2: was going to make it. So it was like the
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  Speaker 2: highs and the lows. It was the ultimate low. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I man, man, I really thought I was done at
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  Speaker 2: that point, got cut, got an injury settlement, got hurt. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was out. Well, shoot man. That's when
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Andy called me and asked me to move to fullback
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  Speaker 2: after that offseason, after thinking I was done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, I believe you spent
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand and two season out of football as
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: you were recovering from that. So, Josh, how did you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: process that type of emotion? You mentioned that you thought
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  Speaker 1: that it could have been the end for you. Who
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  Speaker 1: did you lean on and how did you really get
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: through that tough time?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? My brother he was fighting, He was doing his workouts,
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  Speaker 2: trying to trying to just step on the field again
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  Speaker 2: at San Jose State. So how could I be over
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  Speaker 2: here complaining about myself getting cut trying to make it NFLT.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What am I doing? This guy has no leg trying
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to just play again. I can't stop. So what do
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I do? I'm gonna get a job. I ended up
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: getting a job at a h fact place, delivering stuff,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: going to work. Okay, it happens to be not what
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I want right now, but I still got to go
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to work. And meanwhile I'm training, I'm lifting, I'm helping
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: my dad coach a freshman team. I'm doing things to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: help me, you know, not get negative, not get down,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to Okay, man, we're pushing, we're going,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: or we're going, We're going. Kept working out, kept running, working,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: making a little money, my daughter, my wife, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and my brother Jack. And then next thing, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Andy kauf Man, I changed my life and I'm forever grateful.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It makes me have a special place in my heart
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: for that, and it makes me remember that as a coach. Hey,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: don't you know, believe in somebody? Say hey, find a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: spot form It doesn't happen to be right here, maybe
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: it's here. And it reminds me to tell you is, hey,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I'm in coach. What do you need? I don't care
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: if it's a linebacker for what do you need? So
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: it's a nice it's a fun lesson to share. But
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it's also those times when you need you need somebody
• 19:18
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• 19:20
  Speaker 2: need somebody to hey. You're gonna be all right. You
• 19:23
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• 19:25
  Speaker 2: And so it's a big picture thing, and uh, pretty cool.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: So you alluded to this, Josh, but I want to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: delve deeper into it. You were converted to fullback in
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I guess around many camps of two thousand and three,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: who initiated that and how was that message delivered to you?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I know, Andy called and asked. I said, I'm in,
• 19:53
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• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I love Ted h. And then next thing I know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm in the meeting rooms learning the offense in the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: OTAs running past pro run game nine on seven, seven
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: on seven, instead of covering it and defending it, working
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: on the defense system. Now I'm on the other side
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: learning the oh. So it was it was cool and
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I loved those challenge. I loved the mental part of
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the game. So it was it was a It was
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a challenge. I looked at it as a challenge how
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: much can I learn? How much? And ended up playing
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: in that offense the West Coast and learning from those
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: guys because I I was a nine ERDs fan as
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: a kid. I went to those games, my Northern California kid.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So Bill Walsh was he was the inventor of that offense.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: So to then go play for a couple guys that
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: were underneath of Bill and learning that same language, those
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: same playbooks, so I just ate it up. I loved it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I love being with the lineman. I love protecting don.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I love sitting next to Westbrook and meetings. I loved
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: not touching the ball and feeling like I scored a
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: touchdown when all those guys did. I loved, uh, the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: differences of positions, the linemen versus the tight end versus
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the receivers. I loved how and you put it all together.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And I loved being in the huddle, you know. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: loved just the difference. It was like it was like
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: a different game, you know, and it ends and it
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: ends up being that, and you got your different mindset
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: a little more. Okay, we're setting them up, we're moving
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the ball on the hash, we're personnel for what you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And and to see that from the other side just
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: really opened my eyes to made you love the game
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: even more.
• 21:49
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• 21:53
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• 21:58
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• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Was pretty humbled by that, and it made me just
• 22:08
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  Speaker 1: So coming out of the two thousand and three training camp,
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  Speaker 1: it was something of a breakthrough for you. You make
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the practice squad and then you're signed to a reserve
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: futures deal and you're going into the two thousand and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: four season with a pretty good understanding of the offense.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: What was your mindset at that time giving it a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: go for yet another season another training camp?
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Be ready, be ready, be ready? And I was. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: felt confident, I felt good, And you know what I
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: ended up being on the practice squad grinding. I remember
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the Giants had called to bring me up for a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: workout and it ended up being on the same day
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: John Richie got hurt at Detroit, and I remember the
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Giants guy in my living room, limo ready to take
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: me up for my workout whatever. I'm sure they were
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: going to sign me. And I'm watching the TV and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: my wife's like crying, and and and next thing I know.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I get my phone call and it's the uh player
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: personnel guy for the Eagles. He says, hey, don't go anywhere. Yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: we're signing it. And I told the Giants guy, sorry, man,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I'm getting signed to the active roster. He was like, oh,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. Good luck. Sure you don't want
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to be a Giant because I'm I'm you know, what
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: if I happens and that they come a week earlier,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen that way. I mean, it's just if
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I had gone and they signed me. I'm not that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy how that works and how that happened,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and then then I ended up, you know, starting the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: next week at fullback. So pretty crazy against the Bearers.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I believe that's soldier field. What did that?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: What does that mean for you?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Josh?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you fell short for consecutive summers, then you
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: get an opportunity to EGO sign you to I believe,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a three year deal, and all of a sudden everything
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you want is right in front of you. What did
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that mean to you at that moment?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Ah, It's just I can't even explain it. I can't
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: explain how the how the house you know, you can
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: feel so down and you just keep grying. Man, it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: never as bad and it's never as good. It just
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: it made all those four times of thinking it's over,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: it made it just worth it. It made it like, Man,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I would do it all over again to feel this
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and to run out of that tunnel and to make
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: an NFL roster and to have that dream as a
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: kid and then experience it. I mean, it was something
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that sticks with you, something that you want to share,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: something you wanted to uh teach kids to cheat, keep battling,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: don't give up. But it makes you, It makes you thankful.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I just remember those guys and how they treated me
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and how that felt coming out of that game. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it's crazy because I ended up getting hurt. I got
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: and uh rolled up on my other knee, big Tommy
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Harricks de tackle. I thought I was thought I was
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: ended up not being torn. So I put a brace on,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: grinded through rehab and I didn't miss a game. So
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that was But that's why I was there, man, to
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: make sure I was there for the guys next to me.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: And that season was capped with a Super Bowl appearance.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirty nine set the scene for me Josh,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: what was that experience like for you? Media day, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: game itself, what really stands out when you look back
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: on that opportunity.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Just how it was a big deal. Man, That Super
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Bowl was special? How yeah, whether I think it was
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: four NFC Championship Game appearances in a row and not
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: making that and then getting to that game, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and we ended up falling short, which is still pisses
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: me off because you know we Yeah, that was just we.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That was our game. We let them off the hook,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and and that team was was probably one of the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: best I've ever been a part of. From those leadership guys,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: those guys that led on the field, off the field,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you know, the docs, the McNabb, those guys, the the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: guys that led with without the sea on their chest,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you know, such a close group one that realized, man,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we we we let them off the hook. That was
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: that was ours. We had a team that couldn't be broke.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And then afterwards, after that defeat, it broke and it
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't the same. It wasn't we couldn't we couldn't figure
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: out how to how to harness that again. And then
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I got traded after that five season and
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: six to Seattle played for home run over there, so
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that world wind just didn't stop, you know what I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: mean that. Uh it was fun though because some of
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the Frankfurt, the German reporters that I played for over
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: over there, they would come in the media day and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that media day was something. It was fun spending a
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: week down in Jacksonville. I still remember playing golf with
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: those guys at TPC Sawgrass, just enjoying it. Uh you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: the players championships played there, so we were uh bet
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it was just a fun groute man, and
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: practicing down there. Just the energy, the buzz everything about it,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the families at the different hotel and how it was
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: dialed in and he had a dial in our meetings
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and uh, I just it's still like it's still kind
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of surreal, like, man, did it really? Yeah, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: and even players that I coached come with Super Bowl.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It's still kind of uh surreal sometimes and I think
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: about those guys and what they're doing now and where
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: they're all at, some of them, you know, close to Philly,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: still some way away and Cali like means you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: but I'm just forever grateful for that experience that was fun.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, you started in Super
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Bowl thirty nine and you actually had a reception in
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that game. But Josh, I want to talk to you
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: about the two thousand and five training camp battle because
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you mentioned being close friends with John Ritchie. What's your
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: recollection of kind of going head to head that summer
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You came out on top and started that the two
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: thousand and five season at fullback.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I you know what, I we were battled then, and
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter that we knew we were both you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: it didn't matter how we we battled with everything we had.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: He was you know, he was coming back off that injury,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: off that rehab figuring in his knee out and he
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: was grinding, man, and he didn't I I was watching
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: him and play, and I'm like, man, he looks great.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: He's battled. I got my work cut out, and you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and we both did, and we both grinded and battled,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and to be honest, ought they were keeping both of
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: us just you know, I really did. Uh ended up
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: not working out that way. John ended up being done
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: after that, and then I started that oh five season, uh,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and and it just kind of made me realize man,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you just never know. Man, it's so finite, it's so precious,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it's so sudden, and then next thing, you know, I'm
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm trad. You know. It's just crazy, man. But
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'll forever remember the times me and John shared. Uh. Uh.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Just a good guy, man, good guy.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Now, what was, to your best of your recollection, the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: biggest hit you ever delivered and what was the biggest
• 33:01
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• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So delivered? It was probably the Sunday night game against
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Washington Sewn Springs, Uh, which man, that Don was scrambling
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: at the time. At the time, I yeah, I came backwards.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Would have been a penalty, you know, and that's you
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: can't come backwards. But I you know, I was protecting Don.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You know, he was scrambling and hitch Sean got him
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: pretty hard on that one hardest. Uh. Let's see, let's see.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You know Ray Ray was always tough Lewis man, he
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: was those Baltimore games, he was he was no joke man,
• 33:48
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• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I remember, all of just yeah, they were all delivering blows.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: You know, their lacker Uh, you know those guys, Dan
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Morgan That was some and it made you realize, man,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: every week got to strap it on. Doesn't matter who
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you're playing, these guys are unbelievable and just to compete
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: against them and know that you belong that's pretty special.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to bring everyone up to speed, Josh,
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  Speaker 1: with what you're up to these days. Your playing career
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: ended in two thousand and seven. Did you have an
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: idea at that point that it was over and what
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: led you to the down the path of coaching?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Crazy man. We got retired, got hurt in Seattle,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and ed playing a couple more years, got hurt, ended
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: up hanging them up, right, So I'm man, what am
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I going to do? What am I going to do? Well?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: My father in law had a company at the time,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: so I went to work with them, just too, because
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I want to be around them, right, family, help them out.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Don't know what I'm going So I go work for him,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: teach myself code number, a little web code, little database stuff,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: working a little software, just you know, nothing, creat just
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: making money, make supporting the family, helping them bother in law. Right,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Not not thinking I'm going to get into coaching, because
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I saw how much you know, time and commit you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: it's a lot, and so I just didn't think anything
• 36:21
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• 36:27
  Speaker 2: and I meet meet one of the coaches at Del
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Oro High School head coach Casey Taylor, and he says, hey,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: let's just meet. Okay, yeah, sure, he says, he just
• 36:40
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• 36:42
  Speaker 2: don't have to just come out, Okay. So I go
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: out for watching practice and it was I got I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: got the I got pulled in, I got pulled into
• 36:53
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• 37:00
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• 37:02
  Speaker 2: kids that want to go play, and sometimes you get
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: the guys that can't tie their shoot and they want
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to be part of some and they want to learn football,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and so I love that challenge of connecting individually with
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: each player. I started as the running backs coach, went
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to the linebackers coach, went to the defensive coordinator, offensive coordinator.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: And now I get the chance to be the head coach,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and so pretty special to share more, learn more, to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: be part of a culture, a building, being part of
• 37:40
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• 37:45
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• 37:51
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• 37:54
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• 37:56
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• 37:59
  Speaker 2: don't love it, I still want given what they need
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  Speaker 2: to be successful at whatever you do. If you're a
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  Speaker 2: beat reporter in Philly, I want you to remember this
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  Speaker 2: and know there's lessons that don't just apply it. For me,
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  Speaker 2: it's everything and it was attractive to me, and I man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I found that. I went to that
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  Speaker 2: lunch and went to that practice and said I'm in
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  Speaker 2: and because it's just it's made me have these feelings
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  Speaker 2: all over again from twenty five years ago of making
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  Speaker 2: that team, of playing in the Super Bowl, of getting cut,
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  Speaker 2: of going to Frankfurt, of all those things. I get
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  Speaker 2: those same memories, but still in a different way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's coaching and I don't get a play, But to
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  Speaker 2: see those players have those things that I went through
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  Speaker 2: and now to help them through that pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: That is fantastic. And for those wondering, that is del
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  Speaker 1: Oro High School in little Miss California. I'll certainly be
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  Speaker 1: keeping an eye on how things transpire. And I wish
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  Speaker 1: you all the best, Josh and your team, And thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for carving out some time to talk
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  Speaker 1: about your career and bringing everyone up to speed with
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  Speaker 1: what you've been up to.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'll tell you when I got that email, it
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  Speaker 2: was I got goosebumps, man, I did. It's for you
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  Speaker 2: to reach out. It's been a long time, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And my wife asked me their day. I want you
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  Speaker 2: to wonder who's like what, and then to have you
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  Speaker 2: call like somebody who was listening. And so it means
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  Speaker 2: a lot, means a lot to share just some of
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  Speaker 2: those memories. And I know that fan base. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they they're special. There's nothing like it. And to be
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  Speaker 2: in that fraternity and family to know you gave them
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  Speaker 2: everything you have, man, and then to share back these
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  Speaker 2: stories later. Appreciate the chance, the opportunity, Andrew, anything you need,
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  Speaker 2: reach out man. Glad you're paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely well. I hope you all enjoyed the special edition
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  Speaker 1: of The Checho Daily for Josh Parry. I'm Andrew de
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  Speaker 1: Checo and I'll catch you all on the next one.