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The 2026 NBA Trade Deadline Was… · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: The NBA trade deadline is coming.
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Speaker 2: When we had a ton of different trades I read
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Speaker 2: forty nine different players.
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Speaker 1: Or switching teams or getting waved.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that for the few of y'all to
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Speaker 2: get wave, but that's pretty significant right and over here
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Speaker 2: in this channel, we've made the videos reacted to the
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Speaker 2: bigger trades, the Ads, the Jarns, and the James Hardens,
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Speaker 2: but there's so many smaller trades that do have significance
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Speaker 2: across basketball, and I kind of want to talk about
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Speaker 2: some things that have been in my mind since yesterday's deadline.
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Speaker 2: Starting off the thing I noticed because I made this
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Speaker 2: tweet that basically just assd fans and I probably should
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Speaker 2: have made it a poll. I think it'd have been
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Speaker 2: more impactful that way to see the numbers. But I
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Speaker 2: love their responses basically asking are you happy with your
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Speaker 2: team's deadline?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 2: We got some people like Mavi here. Shout out to Mavy,
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Speaker 2: who is a Hornets fan. He absolutely loved the fact
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Speaker 2: that got Kobe White.
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Speaker 1: Cool, But my.
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Speaker 2: Bulls fan friends are saying no. My Pistons fan friends
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Speaker 2: are saying no, just straight up haha. My boy Reese,
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Speaker 2: he's a Mavericks fan, so he's happy about the Anthony
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Speaker 2: Davis trade.
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Speaker 1: Small's is a Heat.
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Speaker 2: Fan, and then I'm gonna there's a lot of Heat
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Speaker 2: fans and this one just screaming to the moon about unhappy.
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Speaker 1: They are.
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Speaker 2: Same thing with Warriors fans. Seventy six of fans saying no.
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Speaker 2: As a Raptors fan, absolutely nakad season. Who I'm pisses fan?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. The list goes on and on. There's only
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Speaker 2: a few fan bases that almost exclusively said yes, it
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Speaker 2: was Hornets fans, Timberwles fans have been really happy about
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Speaker 2: the Ayo acquisition, even though they kind of geared themselves
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Speaker 2: up for Giannis and stuff. Wizards fans, the ones that
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Speaker 2: are in the replies at least are saying yes. But
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Speaker 2: like for the most part, I'm seeing some some craziness.
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Speaker 2: Like Rockets fans are really struggling right now. They obviously
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Speaker 2: have not They've gone through a rougher patch of their season.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they just lost to the Hornets where like
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Speaker 2: nobody came to play except for Kevin Durant.
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Speaker 1: Their fans are saying hell no. Kings fans are Kings
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Speaker 1: fanning it up.
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Speaker 2: And then we had this viral one from Cold that
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Speaker 2: I asked, are you happy with the deadline? You got
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Speaker 2: rage coming in as a Heat fan talking about how
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Speaker 2: crazy it is, so everybody most people are not happy.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's really interesting because it kind of
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Speaker 2: showcases the shift that I think the fan base is
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Speaker 2: kind of slow to recognize. I heard Kevin pelt to
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Speaker 2: say this today, which is kind of insane when you
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Speaker 2: think about it. Only one team that is above five
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Speaker 2: hundred right now traded a first round pick at this deadline,
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Speaker 2: and that team is the OKC thunder who traded a
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Speaker 2: protect the pick to go get Jared McCain. But all
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Speaker 2: the other teams that are trying to compete and trying
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Speaker 2: to win, none of them really put the cards on
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Speaker 2: the table, except for like I guess the Calves upgraded
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Speaker 2: even though it cost them ten years in age between
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Speaker 2: their point guards. But team building again has just shifted.
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Speaker 2: While previous deadlines is like, oh, we're gonna trade three
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Speaker 2: first round picks to go get trade Murphy the third A,
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Speaker 2: We're gonna trade two first round picks to go get
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Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junr.
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Speaker 1: Those times might be behind us. At the deadline.
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Speaker 2: Specifically, we might sit in the offseason, like Desmond Bane
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Speaker 2: or so on. But a lot of the teams that
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Speaker 2: are trying to actively compete for championship recognize it. Even
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Speaker 2: if it is the twenty eighth overall pick in the
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Speaker 2: second aprin Era. That is really important to us if
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Speaker 2: we can draft somebody that can be impactful today at
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Speaker 2: twenty eight, Oh my goodness, we now got a real
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Speaker 2: rotation new player for five million dollars for the next
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Speaker 2: four seasons. And they're just not looking to make those moves.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I think that personally, okayc is one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest winners of all of this that line.
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Speaker 2: And it's not just because jere McCain might be good.
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Speaker 1: We don't know.
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Speaker 2: We got like a twenty games samb Be sides to
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Speaker 2: say he was amazing than like now a thirty game
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Speaker 2: semba size or however many games has been. It's like,
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Speaker 2: the reason why I think that they are one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest winners is all of the teams around them
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Speaker 2: that are competed for championships, none of them did a
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Speaker 2: damn thing. The different Nuggets made a trade to get
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Speaker 2: rid of one Hunter Tyson. You know that make sure
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Speaker 2: that boy on the two way and our boy Spencer
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Speaker 2: gets a real contract. The Spurs didn't bring anything in.
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Speaker 1: They didn't lose.
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Speaker 2: Anything, which I'm not even saying that's the wrong thing,
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Speaker 2: but they didn't do anything. The Rockets didn't do anything.
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Speaker 2: The Temples bring in I would assuming, which I think
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Speaker 2: is really important. But for the most part, the top
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Speaker 2: end contenders, even in the Eastern Conference. Hose Alvarado's gonna
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Speaker 2: help a lot for the Knicks, especially with Duce McBride by.
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Speaker 2: And now the Pisses brought in Kevin Herder, who played
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Speaker 2: his first game yesterday.
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Speaker 1: He was over to in like seven minutes.
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Speaker 2: Nobody really looked at this window and say we want
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Speaker 2: to pounce now Oka se who is a team that
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Speaker 2: is already the favorite. And maybe you disagree with his fine,
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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of great teams across basketball, a
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Speaker 2: team that is already the favorite looking around and saying, okay,
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Speaker 2: we might be the same team we were yesterday, but
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Speaker 2: so is that team, and so is that team, and
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Speaker 2: we bust that team's ass the season in last season,
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Speaker 2: in the postseason, so we feel good, and I think
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Speaker 2: that's interesting. Can we talk about my favorite team because
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Speaker 2: I got a lot of tweets. I'm talking about Kenny.
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Speaker 2: How have you not dropped the Bulls video? Have you
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Speaker 2: not dropped the Bulls video? We're here's the Bulls video.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about what the Bulls did, because they were
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Speaker 2: the most active team this entire entire deadline. If I'm
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Speaker 2: counting that, we got one, two, three, four, oh my god, five, six, seven.
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Speaker 1: We got eight new players of this deadline, eight new players.
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Speaker 2: We came into the deadline with seven expiring contracts and
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Speaker 2: only one of them is left, and that is Zach Collins.
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Speaker 2: We were super super active.
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Speaker 1: But being active, you know, it has its pros.
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Speaker 2: And it has its cons. It has its pros and
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Speaker 2: has it cons. I am happy that the Bulls have
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Speaker 2: picked the direction to finally try to to lose basketball games.
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Speaker 1: That's cool. I'm happy about it.
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Speaker 2: If there is no context attributed to the trades that
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Speaker 2: the Bulls made, you would look at it and say,
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Speaker 2: good deadline. But that's not the world we live in.
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Speaker 2: When you add the context to everything, this is not
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Speaker 2: a good deadline. It's probably like a D plus to
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Speaker 2: C minus.
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Speaker 1: And let me explain.
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Speaker 2: Kobe White was a valuable player potentially on the trade
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Speaker 2: block last season. I don't know if it that's you
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Speaker 2: a full first round pick, but it probably mets you
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Speaker 2: more than Colin Sexton in second rounders. I would assume
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Speaker 2: them was a guy that teams are interested in last year.
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Speaker 2: They turned down a pick of heavily protected pick for
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Speaker 2: Vosevich last season, right, and everybody in their grandma, anybody
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Speaker 2: that watched the game of basketball looked at last year's
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Speaker 2: Bulls team and the year before that Bulls team, and
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Speaker 2: the year before that Bulls team, and the year before
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Speaker 2: that Bulls team and said, hey, this team is not
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Speaker 2: good enough to win anything over what forty one games,
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Speaker 2: and everybody else is like, you should say them sell
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Speaker 2: why you can go go trade these people to go
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Speaker 2: get future assets, Go get first round pick, second round picks,
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Speaker 2: younger triguing young players. And they waited to the time
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Speaker 2: where everybody that they traded was no longer a valuable asset.
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Speaker 2: That's the frustrated part of it all.
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Speaker 1: I'm not mine.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm a little bit hurt that Kobe
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Speaker 2: White doesn't play for my team.
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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite players.
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Speaker 2: I'm a little hurt that I would assume it doesn't
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Speaker 2: play for my team, and that's one of my favorite players.
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Speaker 2: But I'm not hurt that they got traded. I'm hurt
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Speaker 2: that when they got traded was just too late, just
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Speaker 2: too late. And then I got a lot of love
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Speaker 2: for a lot of the guys they brought in. And
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Speaker 2: once you become a bull, we like this.
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Speaker 1: You feel me. They made the one of the first trades.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's the second trade they trade away
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Speaker 2: Vusevich to the Celtics. Your boy Kenny Beater broke that
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Speaker 2: trade to in that toity by the way, I'm just
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Speaker 2: I'm just, I'm just the NBA twitter I broke down.
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Speaker 1: That was me, meyl me. I like that trade a lot.
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Speaker 2: We got a first round pick that looks like it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be the thirty first or thirty second overall picking
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Speaker 2: this year's draft. And if I look at let's let's
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Speaker 2: just go like the twenty twenty three NBA draft.
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, not the twenty twenty three drive.
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Speaker 1: Hold On, maybe in the twenty twenty two drive. Hold on.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying in this area you could get real
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Speaker 2: NBA players from Nimhar to Max Christy to so on.
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Speaker 2: So like, it's not a first round pick for Vusevich.
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Speaker 2: But like, there's real Herbert Jones, Miles McBride, even Iyow
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Speaker 2: who you drafted yourself. There's value in that early thirty.
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Speaker 2: So I'm happy about that, right, And I think you
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Speaker 2: say yes to that deal, regardless of the context that.
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Speaker 1: I'm about to add next.
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Speaker 2: But they make this trade and then they say, hey,
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Speaker 2: we just go flip Anthony Simons. Hey man, everybody's been
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Speaker 2: trying to flip Anthorny Simons, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 2: his last couple of years with the Blazers. There's been
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Speaker 2: so many rumors around him. I don't know how you
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Speaker 2: think that in forty eight hours you'd be able to
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Speaker 2: flip a guy that teams that had him for two
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Speaker 2: years were struggling to flip, and they didn't. And I'm
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Speaker 2: efantiy Simons play his first game. I've always said I
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Speaker 2: enjoyed his game. I like a guy that could shoot
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Speaker 2: from thirty three feet behind. I just don't think he's
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Speaker 2: gonna be a part of the Bulls next season. I'm
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Speaker 2: not mad that.
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Speaker 1: He's on the team.
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Speaker 2: I'm mad at the logic of saying we're gonna bring
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Speaker 2: him in and then we're gonna trade him later and
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Speaker 2: later comes and it's like, oh snap. We also just
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Speaker 2: did five of the trades for guards, and we thought
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Speaker 2: we were gonna be able to flip him and Colin Sexton,
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Speaker 2: and now both of.
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Speaker 1: Them guys have to play.
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Speaker 2: And because you were unable to flip Simons and Colin Sexton, we,
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Speaker 2: as everybody is pointed out on Twitter, have so many
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Speaker 2: guards you like, I don't think you need to see
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Speaker 2: it to visual like, hold on, look how many point
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Speaker 2: guards are on my team right now? Josh Kiddy, Tray Jones,
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Speaker 2: who I do want to say I was I like
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Speaker 2: Tredy Jones a lot.
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Speaker 1: He's actually a really good player.
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Speaker 2: That's the reason why I was hoping that he got traded,
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Speaker 2: because we're gonna be in the same position we were
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Speaker 2: with these other dudes. Tray Jones have two years left
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Speaker 2: on his contract, a good ball player. They should trade
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Speaker 2: him now instead of wait until he's expiring. He is no,
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Speaker 2: they got Effney Simon's they go, they got young boy
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Speaker 2: and we got Rob dil Nham like, and there's no wings.
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Speaker 1: I'm not even mad.
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Speaker 2: I'm the reason I'm mad about the thing, because at
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, if you are selling team.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes Joe the year that you sail the last thirty,
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Speaker 2: have him any games after the deadline, the team is
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Speaker 2: just gonna look funky. It's just it's the case you're
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Speaker 2: gonna try to lose on purpose.
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Speaker 1: That's just the case.
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Speaker 2: The reason why it bothers me is because you bought
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Speaker 2: in on young guards, right. We bought in to see
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Speaker 2: if Rob Dellahan could be a real NBA player. But
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Speaker 2: knowing what I know about Billy Donovan, he gonna play
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Speaker 2: College sexon over him. He gonna play Simon's over him.
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Speaker 2: He gonna play Trey Jones over him, and Josh s
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Speaker 2: Kinny He's literally the fifth point guard in the rotation
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Speaker 2: twenty like we are.
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Speaker 1: We gonna wait to next season to see if you
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Speaker 1: can hoop, and then he's gonna hear restricted. So uh,
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Speaker 1: that's why so sad for me. And the same thing
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Speaker 1: with j Nivy.
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Speaker 2: You bought in on j n Ivy the year before
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Speaker 2: he hit restricted free agency, which can be a dangerous thing.
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Speaker 2: If Jada Navy comes to the Bulls and hoops his
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Speaker 2: ass off, you find yourself, baby, in a place where
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Speaker 2: you have to pay him more than what you think
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Speaker 2: he's worth. Now this restricted free agency, and what we
9:51
Speaker 2: just saw them learn from the from the Patrick Williams
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Speaker 2: thing is that maybe we shouldn't be giving contracts against
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Speaker 2: the market.
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Speaker 1: Let's what we waited to see. What markt was.
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Speaker 2: He ain't really have one, so we got to steal
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Speaker 2: live a deal if you will, twenty five million dollars
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Speaker 2: a year. So I hope they do that for IVY,
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Speaker 2: if they decide that IVY is really a part of
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Speaker 2: our future.
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Speaker 1: The last part about the Bulls before we move on
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Speaker 1: to some more interesting teams. But the Bulls.
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Speaker 2: I'm not just saying doing the Bulls thing because they're
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Speaker 2: my favorite team. It also is because again they were
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Speaker 2: the most active team. Right here's NBA taking thought. The
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Speaker 2: Bulls right now have folded the cars and said they
10:21
Speaker 2: won't literally say this because our guy in charge don't
10:24
Speaker 2: doesn't like the word rebuilding, but they are trying to
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Speaker 2: lose now. Cool happy we've been asking for for three seasons.
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Speaker 2: But look who you're going against. How do you feel
10:35
Speaker 2: it's it's just a little bit too late. And now
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Speaker 2: with the flat and odds, maybe it won't matter in
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Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things. But the Clippers, there's a
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Speaker 2: world where we can out loose the Clippers even though
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Speaker 2: they sold Zobots and James Harden. The Blazers are currently
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Speaker 2: on a six game losing streak. I didn't realize it
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Speaker 2: got that bad, damn. But depending on what Yannis does,
10:55
Speaker 2: we don't know about them. But Mephis just sold the deadline.
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Speaker 2: Dallas sold to a degree. They're currently on the six
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Speaker 2: game loose straight to Utah. Just set lowry marketing for
11:04
Speaker 2: the last quarter and a half of their game. The
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Speaker 2: Washington Wizards have not played their starters in the fourth
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Speaker 2: quarter in like a week. Will Riley's hooping in the fourth.
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Speaker 2: He won them last night's game, but they're trying to
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Speaker 2: lose on purpose. Same thing with the Brooklyn Mets and
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Speaker 2: the Pacers, the team that we'll talk about because they
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Speaker 2: did a big trade for Zubots. Their pick is top
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Speaker 2: what four protected, so they're incentivized to lose too, even
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Speaker 2: though they did just buy right. The Pelicans couldn't win
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Speaker 2: a game if they tried to, And then the same
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Speaker 2: thing with the Kings. So how far do you think
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Speaker 2: it could get up into when it comes to lottery odds.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't care about lottery odds. Because Cooper Flag
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Speaker 2: went to a team that was at the bottom, and
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Speaker 2: so on and so forth.
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Speaker 1: But my goodness, the last thick about the book, matter.
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Speaker 2: Of fact, not really worth it. Let's move on to
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Speaker 2: a more interesting team. Let's let's talk about Zubos's trade,
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Speaker 2: because I think I talked about all the bigger ones
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Speaker 2: except for this one. Zubots ended up getting traded to
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Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers, which is such an interesting trade for
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Speaker 2: multiple multiple reasons. Right, So around me a little bit
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Speaker 2: pacerson mathin two first round picks for Zubots and Kobe Brown.
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Speaker 2: That twenty twenty six first round pick is top four
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Speaker 2: protected and ten through thirty protected, So if it ends
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Speaker 2: up five, six, seven, eight, or nine, they go to
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Speaker 2: the Clippers. And if it ends up in this range
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Speaker 2: where it's safe, then they get a twenty thirty one
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Speaker 2: up protected, which could be interesting. We don't know the
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Speaker 2: hill the NBA gonna look like a twenty thirty one,
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Speaker 2: but it is such a huge gamble if you are
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Speaker 2: the pacer. So this really is a gamble from the
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Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers, right, And I'm not even saying gamble in
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Speaker 2: a negative connotation because I think it could one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent be worth it at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: But the thing that scares me my reservations that I have.
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Speaker 2: And maybe this is just me being a pessimistic guy
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Speaker 2: sometimes when it comes to some of these bigger trades.
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Speaker 2: But there's a little piece in my mind, there's five
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Speaker 2: percent of me that say, Zubots has only been great
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Speaker 2: for like a season's.
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Speaker 1: Change, you know what I'm saying. That's a little bit
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Speaker 1: scary for me.
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Speaker 2: He's been good previous seasons, but he's only been great
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Speaker 2: for last year in bits and parts of this year.
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Speaker 2: Because so is there the again this is just the
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Speaker 2: five Is there a part of you to think that
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Speaker 2: maybe he's more like two years version of himself versus
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Speaker 2: last year's version of himself.
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Speaker 1: The plus that he.
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Speaker 2: Has is that next year he will play alongst to Halliburn,
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Speaker 2: so he will go from James Rden Aliburn and both
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Speaker 2: of those guys set their big fellows up pretty well.
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Speaker 2: But with this pick being top four protective, it is
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Speaker 2: a scary thing because the difference between them and let's
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Speaker 2: say having the fifth best odds is a game and
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Speaker 2: a half. And though the Wizards won last night, based
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Speaker 2: on the way they're trying to do these games. I'm
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Speaker 2: not assuming they're gonna win many more games, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Shout out to Sharif Cooper. Sharif Cooper
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Speaker 2: is gonna play a lot in fourth quarters over the
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Speaker 2: next thirty games or so while the Pacers, and this
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Speaker 2: may maybe they've had this conversation with Ricarlile or maybe
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Speaker 2: they try to do something similar. But the Pacers are
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Speaker 2: a team that's like they're not winning games, but it ain't.
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Speaker 2: It ain't like they out here benched Pascal Siakam in
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Speaker 2: fourth quarters, right, he didn't play their last game, so
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Speaker 2: maybe that's an indication that they might shut him down
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Speaker 2: if you will, But it's it's going to be a
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Speaker 2: process to keep the highest odds imaginable when you have
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Speaker 2: Brooklyn and Washington right on your tail one game and
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Speaker 2: two games in front of you behind you, depending on
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Speaker 2: how you look at it, and even if you stay
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Speaker 2: where you are actively right now, it really is only
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Speaker 2: a forty fifty two percent chance that that pick is yours.
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Speaker 1: That's scary now.
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Speaker 2: I know this draft is basically top three, and then
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Speaker 2: the Caleb Wilson guy is number four, So maybe you
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Speaker 2: don't care if it's number five. I don't even know
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Speaker 2: who the fifth best prospect is in this draft.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't watch college, but maybe you don't care about
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Speaker 2: that guy or that guy or that guy or that guy.
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Speaker 1: But it could be.
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Speaker 2: So it could be some scariness there. And that's why
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Speaker 2: I do really like it from the Clippers perspective, cause
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Speaker 2: you take that chance and if it does fall into
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Speaker 2: the top four and you don't get to pick this year, we.
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Speaker 1: Got twenty thirty one.
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Speaker 2: Cool, that's so far away from now twenty thirty one.
14:45
Speaker 2: My kid is gonna be in like third grade. That's nuts,
14:50
Speaker 2: you know. So it's a worthy gamble on both sides.
14:54
Speaker 2: And I think you so pretty high on Zoobots if
14:56
Speaker 2: you ask me, And I think that's important for a
14:58
Speaker 2: team like the Clippers, who look like the going towards
15:00
Speaker 2: a reconstruction phase of their team. So interesting, super interesting trade.
15:06
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see as we have to wait
15:07
Speaker 2: a lot of the trades, the bigger names that we
15:09
Speaker 2: saw between Anthony Davis and the Wizards or Jaring with
15:14
Speaker 2: the Jazz, or yeah, this trade with Zubots the biggest,
15:19
Speaker 2: the best idea of them. We're gonna have to wait
15:21
Speaker 2: till like October. So it's kind of we kind of
15:23
Speaker 2: just had like some free agency, if you will, because
15:25
Speaker 2: a lot of those guys either gonna play minimum amount
15:27
Speaker 2: of minutes or don't have the necessary teammates to see
15:29
Speaker 2: the full version of them, so.
15:30
Speaker 1: We have to wait. Another thing that's that's on my.
15:32
Speaker 2: Mind when it comes to this trade deadline is the
15:36
Speaker 2: something I just talked about, the tanking that is about
15:38
Speaker 2: to happen all of the team And there's maybe ten
15:41
Speaker 2: teams in the league right now, third of the league
15:43
Speaker 2: is actively telling us, based on this deadline and previous stuff,
15:47
Speaker 2: that they are not trying to win this season. And
15:50
Speaker 2: that becomes a really scary situation for the league at
15:53
Speaker 2: home because it makes the league less enjoyable and less
15:57
Speaker 2: it loses some watchability. If you turn into a game
16:00
Speaker 2: and the two teams that are going against each other
16:02
Speaker 2: neither of them want to win, the actually that game becomes.
16:04
Speaker 1: More interested to me.
16:05
Speaker 2: Both teams don't want to win, and I was like,
16:07
Speaker 2: who will win? But like when you have a team,
16:08
Speaker 2: let's say, let's say the Dinferent Nuggets are going against
16:11
Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz tonight and the earlier in the season.
16:14
Speaker 1: That was a game I was really interested in.
16:16
Speaker 2: Now, knowing that Larry Market is gonna play only twenty
16:19
Speaker 2: minutes and to sit the rest of the game, that
16:21
Speaker 2: game becomes a lot less appealing.
16:23
Speaker 1: I think that the.
16:24
Speaker 2: Average fan is not gonna like that as well, even
16:26
Speaker 2: the diehard from average. I don't think anybody's gonna really
16:28
Speaker 2: like that. So nobody's breaking the rule. There's no rules
16:32
Speaker 2: against having your star player play a little bit and
16:34
Speaker 2: then not play the rest. We obviously have the rules
16:36
Speaker 2: about faking injuries or having somebody on the injury list
16:38
Speaker 2: with no real reason why. But the loophole is, of course, Larry,
16:43
Speaker 2: maybe you don't care about your overall season stats, but
16:45
Speaker 2: we're gonna have you play in the first half and
16:46
Speaker 2: not playing in the second half. That's not against any rules.
16:49
Speaker 2: And because this top of this draft is so damn good, these.
16:53
Speaker 1: Are the teams.
16:55
Speaker 2: The Kings again, the Pelicans are trying to win games.
16:57
Speaker 2: I think they just suck. But the Pelicans, the Pacers,
17:01
Speaker 2: the Nets, the Wizards, the Jazz, the Grizzlies, maybe maybe
17:06
Speaker 2: maybe the.
17:07
Speaker 1: Bucks, the Bulls. I didn't even count Dallas.
17:12
Speaker 2: I don't think they're trying to lose, but they're losing
17:13
Speaker 2: games even though coopl Flag looks like the damn superhero.
17:16
Speaker 2: That's maybe ten teams that are looking at Camp Bulls
17:19
Speaker 2: at a j De Bonds and Derren Peterson said, we
17:21
Speaker 2: won't in on that, So we're gonna lose on purpose,
17:23
Speaker 2: and that sucks. I think it's gonna help inflate some
17:26
Speaker 2: of the numbers of the really good teams, right, you know,
17:29
Speaker 2: you get, you get. Let me look at today's schedule
17:31
Speaker 2: and I mean anything could happen in the NBA, and
17:33
Speaker 2: that's the that's the brilliance of sports in general. But
17:37
Speaker 2: like today, the Bucks plays the pace. Actually this current
17:39
Speaker 2: Pacer teams could beat that current Bucks team even though
17:41
Speaker 2: they're on a two game win streak without Gianni's But
17:43
Speaker 2: like the Tembles plagugains the Pelicans. The Pelicans played them
17:45
Speaker 2: really well a couple of days ago. But in theory,
17:47
Speaker 2: that should be an easy win for the Minnesota Timbules.
17:49
Speaker 2: Right tomorrow, we got Nuggets versus Bulls. The Nuggets should
17:53
Speaker 2: run them out the gym. The Bulls are not trying
17:55
Speaker 2: to win. And then we got Jazz versus Magic. The
17:58
Speaker 2: Magic potentially get back on track because the jabs. They're
18:00
Speaker 2: not trying to win basketball games. Then later in the
18:02
Speaker 2: day we'll have Kings versus oh calfs. Those things just
18:06
Speaker 2: made a trade against each other. So like is a
18:09
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of tanking and this
18:11
Speaker 2: is not a unique thing. We see this quite a
18:12
Speaker 2: bit over the last couple of years because obviously the
18:14
Speaker 2: draft is where you want to be, but man, it
18:18
Speaker 2: is it is and to really do like the Celtics deadline,
18:21
Speaker 2: obviously they didn't do anything dramatic right getting under the
18:24
Speaker 2: luxury tax with a couple moves bringing in Vusovich, which
18:26
Speaker 2: I think I think helps them. I don't think it's
18:28
Speaker 2: a perfect fit. Vucevin. I just watched every single day
18:30
Speaker 2: for five years and on. Everybody recognize that he's a
18:33
Speaker 2: flawed NBA player, But what he does well, he does
18:36
Speaker 2: pretty well. And one thing I think that's going to matter,
18:39
Speaker 2: at least for the Celtics. There is no true obligation
18:42
Speaker 2: with him. When he played in Chicago, there was an
18:44
Speaker 2: obligation for him to get his touch. There's an obligation
18:46
Speaker 2: for him to do things because for the first part,
18:48
Speaker 2: he's one of our best players, and for the second part,
18:50
Speaker 2: you trade at the farm to get him, so you
18:52
Speaker 2: kind of feel obligated to let your investment look good.
18:55
Speaker 1: With the Celtics, if he's not.
18:56
Speaker 2: Playing the way Missoula wants him to play, they have
19:00
Speaker 2: no problem with straight up just not playing him, and
19:03
Speaker 2: I think that is important. But I also think, based
19:05
Speaker 2: on the comments that Woots has given over the last
19:07
Speaker 2: two years or so, he really wants to play for
19:10
Speaker 2: a playoff team and try to get pee for a championship.
19:12
Speaker 2: And that makes me feel like the super negative defensive
19:15
Speaker 2: player that he was in Chicago. I don't think he's
19:17
Speaker 2: about to turn into Rigo Beert all of a sudden,
19:19
Speaker 2: but I could see a world where he looks better
19:21
Speaker 2: on a team like this because he's more incentivized.
19:24
Speaker 1: To be a good defensive player. He has more help
19:27
Speaker 1: on the wings and the point of attack. That's just
19:30
Speaker 1: wasn't the case of the Bulls.
19:31
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna act like he's ever been a
19:33
Speaker 2: good defender, because lord knows he never has been. But
19:35
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna look like one of the
19:37
Speaker 2: worst defensive centers in the league even if he does
19:39
Speaker 2: a expiring contract and b you got other replacements. Hell
19:43
Speaker 2: if Luca Garza is better tonight play Look at Garz
19:45
Speaker 2: over us? Would you owe him nothing? So I think
19:48
Speaker 2: that's a win. And then again you get under the
19:50
Speaker 2: luxury tacks and that's huge for the team. I saw
19:52
Speaker 2: a quote from Darryl Moury that said that he's pretty
19:55
Speaker 2: confident that he sold Jerry McCain while his value was
20:00
Speaker 2: the highest, And he might be right, but that is
20:03
Speaker 2: a bro If I'm jere McCain, that is the biggest
20:07
Speaker 2: piece of bulletin board material I.
20:09
Speaker 1: Will ever have in my career.
20:11
Speaker 2: He also has a bunch of because everybody be complaining
20:13
Speaker 2: about his aesthetic and everything, which doesn't matter in the
20:16
Speaker 2: game of basketball. But if your former GM saying yeah,
20:19
Speaker 2: we sold high and they didn't get anything in return.
20:22
Speaker 2: If you said, oh, yeah, we sold high on Anthony
20:24
Speaker 2: Davis when we got traded from the Pelicans to La hell,
20:27
Speaker 2: yeah you got draft picks and young players. When he
20:30
Speaker 2: said we sold high when they got a bad first
20:32
Speaker 2: round pick, game, go hoop. You know what I'm saying.
20:36
Speaker 1: That should be on your wall.
20:37
Speaker 2: It should be the first thing you look at before
20:39
Speaker 2: practicing before games.
20:41
Speaker 1: He sold high on me. Bet, I'm gonna have to
20:44
Speaker 1: go drop thirty on them boys.
20:45
Speaker 2: One of the bigger ones we talked about at least
20:48
Speaker 2: when you talk about the fans is about the Miami Heat.
20:51
Speaker 2: The Miami Heat for what feels like one hundred dead
20:53
Speaker 2: line in the row. I didn't make a trade, and.
20:56
Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual number is.
20:57
Speaker 2: I know what's happened at least three times now because
20:59
Speaker 2: I used to do the trade that last streams and
21:01
Speaker 2: again my boy smalls at the chat like old man
21:03
Speaker 2: asleep again, and old.
21:05
Speaker 1: Man was sleep.
21:06
Speaker 2: This team is a premier playing team. You know, we
21:08
Speaker 2: always talk about the Bulls. We always talk about Atlanta,
21:10
Speaker 2: which makes sense. Miami over the last two years do
21:12
Speaker 2: have two finals appearance. I'm definitely not taking those away.
21:15
Speaker 2: But they have been a playing team more times than
21:18
Speaker 2: not in this this turn of the decade, and they've
21:21
Speaker 2: always earned conversations from Kevin Durant to Jamrant to Damien
21:25
Speaker 2: Lulutian compo.
21:27
Speaker 1: And they always miss.
21:28
Speaker 2: They got some hits like normal power for basically nothing,
21:30
Speaker 2: huge huge hit, but they haven't been able to get
21:33
Speaker 2: that big fish.
21:34
Speaker 1: They've been big game hunting and bought it.
21:36
Speaker 2: If using a spear, you gotta switch up your detentions
21:38
Speaker 2: because it's not it's not working right. And I recognize
21:41
Speaker 2: that frustration because I've been there before. But the little
21:45
Speaker 2: thing in the back of my mind says.
21:47
Speaker 1: Hey, but not doing nothing crazy. It is dead line.
21:50
Speaker 2: The Miami Heat will have four tradeable first round picks
21:52
Speaker 2: next season, a center that doesn't play well with your
21:55
Speaker 2: star guy, which is Bam and aa Baio. Those dudes
21:57
Speaker 2: literally cannot play together, and the coach don't like it,
21:59
Speaker 2: but he intriguing young player. I'm like, you know what
22:02
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I'm not saying they will do something
22:04
Speaker 2: this offseason, but as an outsider, because again I understand
22:08
Speaker 2: a frustration with the fans. As an outside, a four
22:10
Speaker 2: tradable first round pick, young, intriguing player, and salary filler,
22:14
Speaker 2: feels like we should be Damn, I'm doing it again.
22:16
Speaker 1: We should be in the sweep stakes to get to
22:19
Speaker 1: somebody again.
22:22
Speaker 2: We should be in the sweepstakes. Another winner, Charlotte Hornets.
22:27
Speaker 2: They're currently in the play and shout out to the
22:28
Speaker 2: Charlotte Hornets. They have overtaken the Bulls. I'm rooting so
22:31
Speaker 2: heavily for y'all. They brought in bringing Kobe White, who
22:35
Speaker 2: was just like Colin Sexton, but better is the best
22:38
Speaker 2: way you could describe. And you had Colin Sexton. The
22:40
Speaker 2: guy is he was over attacked as one of the
22:43
Speaker 2: best players on the Bulls. But now he goes to Charlotte.
22:45
Speaker 2: He could be with the fifth most important dude, sixth
22:48
Speaker 2: most important dude. And they may not be a good
22:50
Speaker 2: thing for him as he's trying to get paid this offseason,
22:52
Speaker 2: but for the team, that is kind of the perfect role.
22:55
Speaker 2: I can see Kobe White and I already DMed and
22:57
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit. I told him I was
22:58
Speaker 2: gonna buy his jersey. Wants to come out. He had
23:00
Speaker 2: to change his number, but I'm gonna give you a
23:02
Speaker 2: Kobe Why Charlotte Hornet jersey.
23:04
Speaker 1: That's my dude, and I really like watching him play
23:05
Speaker 1: as a whole.
23:06
Speaker 2: So hey, one of my favorite players got traded to
23:08
Speaker 2: a team that I really enjoyed watching. That's a win
23:10
Speaker 2: and the West was kind of dad, wasn't it. You
23:13
Speaker 2: got some small moves here there, but the Western Conference
23:15
Speaker 2: don't really do much. All of the Kings guys are
23:18
Speaker 2: still on the Kings. I just don't I don't know
23:21
Speaker 2: how true this report was. Let me let me go,
23:23
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, let me say if I can
23:24
Speaker 2: find the source. Here's the report from Jake Fisher. Washington
23:28
Speaker 2: was having conversations with Sacramento on Sabonis, but the Kings
23:32
Speaker 2: went in more draft capital than the Wizards were willing
23:35
Speaker 2: to part with. Maybe I'm living in this bizarrero world,
23:38
Speaker 2: but I could not understand this from the King's perspective.
23:41
Speaker 2: Manta Sabonis is undoubtedly a really good NBA player.
23:46
Speaker 1: Nobody will deny that. I know that. The skeptics, and
23:49
Speaker 1: I'm not even sitting the skeptule.
23:50
Speaker 2: They may look at overall, how does he make your
23:53
Speaker 2: team better in the postseason, which I think that is
23:55
Speaker 2: a true question. But on a night to night basis,
23:58
Speaker 2: the Manta Sabonis is a really good ball player, right
24:03
Speaker 2: He also and the same token is not worth more
24:09
Speaker 2: than a first round pick.
24:12
Speaker 1: Bro.
24:13
Speaker 2: When I saw this report, it blew my mind because
24:16
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna speculate here, this is no source or whatever.
24:18
Speaker 2: When they say they wanted more draft capital makes me
24:20
Speaker 2: feel like that one pick that they used in the
24:21
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis Crade, the thirtieth row pick from Okay See,
24:24
Speaker 2: might have been the conversation that the Kings were having
24:26
Speaker 2: for the monts Bonus, and in my mind, my pee
24:29
Speaker 2: my pee sized brain, trading Sabonis for that that dead salary,
24:34
Speaker 2: which was like Chris Middleton and send Marvin Bagley back
24:38
Speaker 2: to Hell. End of ben and the thirtieth overall pick
24:41
Speaker 2: is a good haul for the Montsa bonis now talent wise,
24:43
Speaker 2: it's not. But getting away from the Montas Sabonis, who's
24:46
Speaker 2: guaranteed forty two this year, forty five next year and
24:49
Speaker 2: then forty eighth the year after that. That was that
24:52
Speaker 2: was a life round from God to get out of
24:55
Speaker 2: the Sabonis sweepstakes. And you said no because you wanted
24:58
Speaker 2: another first round pick when they were already giving you
25:00
Speaker 2: one bro counting blesses.
25:01
Speaker 1: Taking blesses is right there, get out of.
25:05
Speaker 2: They'd rather bring back him, bring back Damar, but they
25:08
Speaker 2: got no choice with the bringing back zac Lean that
25:09
Speaker 2: boy and I turned it down forty nine million dollars
25:11
Speaker 2: And this was an opportunity for you to get out
25:13
Speaker 2: of that. And I bet in the back of their
25:15
Speaker 2: brains that they're looking at the fact that we already
25:17
Speaker 2: are the worst team in the league. Imagine if we
25:19
Speaker 2: get one of those top dudes and maybe they could
25:21
Speaker 2: just pay alongside the bones.
25:22
Speaker 1: We got it, hey man, break it down, break it down.
25:27
Speaker 1: Nobody there is having fun.
25:28
Speaker 2: Ten game, lose a streak ten and look, lu la,
25:32
Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to pick on the Kings because
25:35
Speaker 2: their fans have had enough.
25:37
Speaker 1: They just they had one good year and my what
25:40
Speaker 1: feels like my whole life is a fan.
25:42
Speaker 2: The last game that they play was against the Grizzlies.
25:46
Speaker 2: The Grizzly starting lineup was Ty Jerome, who was basically
25:49
Speaker 2: playing his second game of the season.
25:51
Speaker 1: Gg Jackson, who has been the.
25:53
Speaker 2: G League slash rotational guy, set a coward and triguing
25:56
Speaker 2: young rookie for show, Jamie Wells and triaging young secud
25:59
Speaker 2: your player in Santi Aldama. Their bench was Cam Spencer,
26:03
Speaker 2: Jami Mayshak I don't even know who that is, kcp
26:08
Speaker 2: O Max and Javon Small. The Kings played everybody on
26:12
Speaker 2: their team, exceph for Keig Murray, whos still dealing with
26:14
Speaker 2: his injury. Sa Bonus played, Zach Lavine played DeMar DeRozan
26:19
Speaker 2: played the DeAndre Hunter who they just acquired. He played,
26:22
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook played Malik Monk played. That's their team they're
26:27
Speaker 2: not even they're not doing this on purpose. They're not
26:30
Speaker 2: doing it on purpose, and they suck. There's no way
26:33
Speaker 2: you can look at this team and be like next year,
26:36
Speaker 2: next year. We just had a topic. No. And that
26:38
Speaker 2: brings me to the Pelicans who said that they think
26:41
Speaker 2: that they have a playoff team next year. Listen, I
26:44
Speaker 2: don't know the future, but you don't need to be
26:47
Speaker 2: Raven Simon to see that this team is not good
26:49
Speaker 2: enough to make the playoffs. Y'all?
26:51
Speaker 1: What do we what? What is happening? You're gonna hang
26:54
Speaker 1: on to almost everything they trade.
26:55
Speaker 2: They traded away Jose Alvarado, cool, but you're gonna hold
26:59
Speaker 2: on to almost everything with the idea, who what have
27:03
Speaker 2: you seen this season to make you feel like you
27:06
Speaker 2: should be a playoff team next year?
27:09
Speaker 1: Maybe there are some advanced SATs they got to lock in.
27:10
Speaker 2: Or maybe Zion Trey Murphy and and Derrick Queen when
27:15
Speaker 2: they play together, they got a plus net rating and
27:16
Speaker 2: maybe if we just maybe that's something in there. But
27:19
Speaker 2: as many games South, because I watched a lot of Pelicans,
27:22
Speaker 2: I love their announcing team. Shout out to them over there.
27:23
Speaker 2: That's not a playof tack. Next year, and it ain't
27:26
Speaker 2: like der Peters that coming through to do it because
27:27
Speaker 2: you traded your pickaway. I don't want to stand somebody's teens,
27:31
Speaker 2: though I understand somebody's teams. Do you know what, Let
27:33
Speaker 2: me take a step back. I can't be super harsh
27:35
Speaker 2: on the Pelicans because there is no rumor about them
27:38
Speaker 2: turning down something. We know for sure that the Kings
27:42
Speaker 2: turned down something, and that is more inexcusable than the Pelicans,
27:45
Speaker 2: because we said earlier no team above five hundred other
27:48
Speaker 2: than OKC traded the first round pick. So yeah, maybe
27:51
Speaker 2: Detroit never called about Trey Murphy. Maybe whatever team never
27:54
Speaker 2: called about Trey Murphy and it wasn't even a conversations
27:56
Speaker 2: cool whatever.
27:57
Speaker 1: So I can't.
27:58
Speaker 2: I can't be mad at y'all too much, but I'm
27:59
Speaker 2: kind of man. But the Kings to game louther streak
28:01
Speaker 2: with all of your guys have, that's something talk about.
28:05
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. So is there any trade
28:08
Speaker 2: that I missed out on? Hold on, let me do it, ya.
28:10
Speaker 2: I don'tant to talk about Gianni's I'm so I'm so
28:12
Speaker 2: over talking about Giannis's trade.
28:14
Speaker 1: I'm happy that it's over for now.
28:16
Speaker 2: I know We're gonna have to talk about it again
28:18
Speaker 2: a lot in the offseason, but as of right now,
28:19
Speaker 2: I'm cool with them being cool. I feel bad for
28:22
Speaker 2: the stuck guys. On John Moran didn't get traded. Yeah,
28:26
Speaker 2: that's something that's gonna happen in the offseason. I don't
28:28
Speaker 2: know what that means for him for the rest of
28:29
Speaker 2: the year. Is he's gonna sit so they can retain
28:31
Speaker 2: a good pick. Yeah, maybe he plays and they still
28:33
Speaker 2: don't win. I don't know, But I feel bad for
28:36
Speaker 2: the stuck guys, the leak monks of the world, the
28:38
Speaker 2: Jeremy Sohans of the world. Listen, Jeremy so Huns stuck
28:41
Speaker 2: on a good team, So maybe it's not really stuck.
28:42
Speaker 1: But the guy that you know.
28:44
Speaker 2: From my understanding, the Spurs went out to Jeremy and
28:46
Speaker 2: his team and said go look for a trade, and
28:48
Speaker 2: trade deadline came and went, and I see a single
28:50
Speaker 2: peep about them. Maybe they did it, offers, maybe they
28:52
Speaker 2: did not really know. But some players are like genuine
28:56
Speaker 2: impactful players are stuck on really bad teams with no
28:59
Speaker 2: real app new to get out, and that's kind of
29:01
Speaker 2: that would be.
29:02
Speaker 1: Kind of frustrating for me.
29:03
Speaker 2: If I was one of those players but excited to
29:05
Speaker 2: see James Harden and Cleveland. That's one of my most
29:07
Speaker 2: interesting things. I think the debut is tomorrow, and I
29:10
Speaker 2: think that's where I ended off, y'all. That is most
29:12
Speaker 2: of my opinions. Again, I do do five podcasts a week.
29:15
Speaker 2: If you didn't know it is, it is a lot.
29:19
Speaker 2: So you might get more content from.
29:21
Speaker 1: Me over the next couple of days. That's just the
29:23
Speaker 1: way it is.