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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, July 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football from tifty seven
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  Speaker 1: yard Jock Lambo to set the team records for consecutive
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  Speaker 1: field goals. It is Monday, July twenty nine. This is
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by
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  Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans. And now that guy who claims not
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  Speaker 1: to be just a host, he's an entertainer. J P.
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  Speaker 1: Shad Rick, Me and Jalen Ramsey entertainers. We are welcome
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  Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday, presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans. We're often running for the twenty nineteen season.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shattrick with Tony Vasselli in studio and CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports senior writer Pete Prisco down in South Florida via
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  Speaker 1: the phone line. Here we go, guys, what's up Pete? Well,
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  Speaker 1: first off, we'll start the season by finding ball because
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  Speaker 1: he was late. I wasn't late, Pete. I was here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, the show just started. For me to be late,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be seeing you. And you see, Prisco, time
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  Speaker 1: is five minutes before the show starts. Never forget that,
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  Speaker 1: well never just never forget. You're not in charge of
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  Speaker 1: anything around here. You are a hired gun, so just
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  Speaker 1: be hired and shut up. Wow, Okay, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 1: call my friends in the hall. That's your go to.
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  Speaker 1: That's to some things. Never change around to go to people.
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  Speaker 1: We saw you here the other day. People have you
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  Speaker 1: traveled other places since then? Yeah? With the Tampa and
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  Speaker 1: watch the Bucks for a day, and uh, they get
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  Speaker 1: a long way to go Tampa Bay. Uh. Their defense
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  Speaker 1: is gonna have a rough go of it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was good seeing all you guys. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: It's always great. Get back and I'll be back next week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing the Thursday night game to see the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: up there on my way to see Buffalo and Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm stopping over on Thursday. I'll see you guys
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  Speaker 1: two weeks, two weeks next Thursday. Yeah, next Thursday. Next
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  Speaker 1: this Thursday. There's no game right the week after. We
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  Speaker 1: were in Baltimore, PA. Two weeks. Two weeks, two weeks
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  Speaker 1: from this Thursday. So two and a half weeks and weeks,
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  Speaker 1: not next week. I just want to make sure you're
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  Speaker 1: a little slow today. Next week. Next week I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be in Arizona to see Kyler Murray's first game Okay, great,
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  Speaker 1: how's that going to go. I'll tell you what. I
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  Speaker 1: went out there and spent some time with him in
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  Speaker 1: the summer. He's better than I thought he was. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, until you get out there and actually play nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Are you taller than him? No? But we see eye
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  Speaker 1: are you? Are you serious? No? He's He's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit taller than me, but not much, Tony. I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: isn't by much. Man. We're often running here. Here's what's
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  Speaker 1: coming up in the program, A jam packed two hours
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  Speaker 1: in this one. The first week of camp, well half week,
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  Speaker 1: four days of camping the books. Jaylor Ramsey reaction. We'll
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  Speaker 1: hear from the Jaguars cornerback coming up. We'll dig into
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line tonight, Tony, I know you have some
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about the tackle positions here, especially the left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: What's gonna happen there? D d Westbrook poise for a
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  Speaker 1: breakout season? Pete, I know you talked to him earlier
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  Speaker 1: this week. We'll hear from you coming up. Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: impact on the team so far, We're gonna play crossfire.
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  Speaker 1: People were clamoring we're gonna deliver a cross fire tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and our thoughts about Leonard Fournette, and we'll go around
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League as well. So there you have it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the program ahead this evening. Hey guys, guess what, Um,
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback kind of changes the field around here. UM
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  Speaker 1: kind of saw that one coming. But now, first four
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  Speaker 1: days on the practice field, Pete, you see Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: getting things done on the field, the way he gets
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  Speaker 1: in and out of the huddle in the building, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: kind of talking about him. He gets in and out
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  Speaker 1: of the hut. Just see things seem smoother than they did.
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  Speaker 1: I think. Do they seem smoother because the ball is
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  Speaker 1: not hitting the ground as much, or because how he's
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  Speaker 1: getting in and out of the huddle, Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: get in and out of the huddle. If all you
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  Speaker 1: can do is get in out the huddle, I could
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  Speaker 1: be the quarterback. I don't remember, like watching camp last
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  Speaker 1: year's like who they are struggling to get out the huddle? Man,
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  Speaker 1: this is I do remember watching going. Boy, the ball
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  Speaker 1: is hitting in the ground a lot, good point. Correct. Yeah, Look,
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  Speaker 1: he's a better quarterback, that's the bottom line. And and
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  Speaker 1: when you're the better quarterback, that's going to show up
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. And but you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting out of the huddle, JP Sell, he can get
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  Speaker 1: in out of the huddle. We can't play quarterback. True, true,
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  Speaker 1: But now to that point to the ball not hitting
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  Speaker 1: the ground as much, you're right on that it's coming
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  Speaker 1: out smooth um. That makes the receivers ao little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like they have superstar names at right receiver
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  Speaker 1: on this team, but at least so far, there's some
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  Speaker 1: of those guys have stood out, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback is a big part of why they've stood out
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  Speaker 1: so far. The only thing I want to just caution
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  Speaker 1: us and I know we have a two hour show
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  Speaker 1: to do and we have to talk about stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: you're just like you'll like just start throwing up information
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  Speaker 1: on us ud If you remember last year about this time,
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  Speaker 1: remember like how much we were talking about Safarian Jenkins
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  Speaker 1: in the connection between him and Blake chemistry, chemistry and
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  Speaker 1: they look great in the field and man, the Titans
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  Speaker 1: going to be a weapon. How did that work out?
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  Speaker 1: And so you have to be careful this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not and especially because peach right, Nick Foles is
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  Speaker 1: a better quarterback and the guys want to m v
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  Speaker 1: P my courseman nick Foles is not can you play
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  Speaker 1: at a high level? But can he play a high
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  Speaker 1: level for sixteen games? And so But before we even
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  Speaker 1: get to at it's gonna look better on offense, and
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  Speaker 1: the passing game is gonna look more like a real,
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  Speaker 1: higher level NFL passing attack because you have a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: who throws the ball better. You were right, you were
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  Speaker 1: right when you said a real NFL passing attack. You
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  Speaker 1: caught yourself. It's going to look like a real NFL
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  Speaker 1: passing But the danger peat is is we get overly excited.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta call I'm with you, Tony. Let's see
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  Speaker 1: it over the course of an entire season. No, we
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen that. So there's let's let's be honest about
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles. There's been some moments that have been magical
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  Speaker 1: in his career, but there have been moments that a
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  Speaker 1: garbage and you know, the inconsistency has been there and
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  Speaker 1: up and down and up and down. And he was
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  Speaker 1: really up at the right time when he won his
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But I go back to the playoff game
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  Speaker 1: last year against the Saints. He was outstanding in the
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  Speaker 1: first quarter. He was middling for two quarters, two and
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  Speaker 1: a half almost and then he came alive at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the game. Again that that's not good enough.
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  Speaker 1: That's got to be more consistent than in fairness in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. I could say the same thing about Drew
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  Speaker 1: Brees in the playoffs. I mean, I mean in the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs you have quarterbacks that disappear. I mean Patrick will
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  Speaker 1: Holmes in the first half of Okay, go back to
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  Speaker 1: the first two games of last year. He was It
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  Speaker 1: was the average as average can be. I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with your overall point. I wouldn't use the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs as an example. Playoff football is different because he's
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  Speaker 1: had an ultimate highs there too. I think the point
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  Speaker 1: about Nick Foles is what we have seen the last
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  Speaker 1: two years in Philly about a seven game body of work.
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  Speaker 1: He can really look like pretty damn good and win
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  Speaker 1: you games and win big games and be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: But when we've never seen throughout his career is a
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  Speaker 1: consistent season where he plays at an above average level consistently.
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  Speaker 1: You get the ups in the downs um and that's
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  Speaker 1: the big difference. He is now the franchise quarterback. He's
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  Speaker 1: the guy. And yes, it looks better in camp, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like it pass NFL passing the attack. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there's spirals being thrown. Yes, there's a quarterback running back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean receivers being hit on in stride. Yes, they
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  Speaker 1: get in and out. It's a beautiful JP. But it's early.
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  Speaker 1: Every year in camp we do the same thing this
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  Speaker 1: time of year. We overhype, we over talk a certain
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  Speaker 1: aspect of what we like on the field. The reality is, though,
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  Speaker 1: with this offense, we're not sure what it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: because the offensive line will talking about a little bit
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  Speaker 1: letter the questions that running back with Leonard Finett, the
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  Speaker 1: young tight end. Uh yeah, I mean you've got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different things there that are big question marks,
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  Speaker 1: and you have a new offensive coordinat and d Filippo.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to expect come out opening day.
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  Speaker 1: Does it look better right now after four days of camp? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and yippie hippie, you know you get with that nothing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then you could go to go work out with Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: next week, get thrown all around and everybody will say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's not much better. But you can't read anything from
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  Speaker 1: the workouts. Nothing, nothing, nothing at all. I mean we
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  Speaker 1: were out there, Yes, we're out there yesterday together on
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  Speaker 1: the Sunday first of full padded practice. Yes, was it
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  Speaker 1: was there some really good things, absolutely. What was the
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  Speaker 1: one thing you and I both took away? No juice.
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  Speaker 1: It was just kind of quiet, you know, the first day.
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  Speaker 1: What do you expect that the first day of pads,
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  Speaker 1: full pads and NFL practice, popping talking, smack and getting
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  Speaker 1: out of each other petitions, sharing on the defense and offense,
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  Speaker 1: getting all over them when they make apply. It was
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  Speaker 1: none of that juice. That is weird, that is real. Particularly,
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  Speaker 1: I could see if it was, you know, a week
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  Speaker 1: from now and you've been grinding for a week, but
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  Speaker 1: there are three days in it's ridiculous. It stood out
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  Speaker 1: in JP. I mean you thought the same thing I
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  Speaker 1: brought it up to. Yeah, I think, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: just kind of it was a little weird and be
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  Speaker 1: a little I thought maybe it would come with the
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  Speaker 1: first day of pads, like you said, Pete, But and
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  Speaker 1: maybe it'll come this week, second weekend. You know, guys
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  Speaker 1: are getting a little they didn't, Tony. Like when you
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  Speaker 1: do one on one drills and you line up against
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  Speaker 1: each other in the offices on one side, defense on
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  Speaker 1: the other. The guy with the guy and they stand
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  Speaker 1: up and they get all over and they weren't doing that.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do any one on one run. They did
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  Speaker 1: one on one pass rush was really the only one
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  Speaker 1: on one drill with the big guys. They did one
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  Speaker 1: on one receiving and seven on seven and then they
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  Speaker 1: did they did nine on seven, which did not have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of juice. Sure it was in the pass
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  Speaker 1: rush thing, the one on one pass rush, who was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of that pete to your point, But
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like, yeah, they do any goal line eleven
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  Speaker 1: on eleven. No, no, not yet. They did do nine
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  Speaker 1: on seven. You said, they did do nine and seven
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  Speaker 1: and that wasn't juice stuff that usually get I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys did it every day of the week, so
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  Speaker 1: you didn't really get used up. But that's a whole
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  Speaker 1: another story different. Maybe I'm just getting old. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the first day of pads like, yeah, like there was
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  Speaker 1: some juice and then it kind of died down and
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  Speaker 1: then you got started hating each other and there was
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  Speaker 1: juice from fighting because you were just tired of Like
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  Speaker 1: I was at Tampa on Saturday and they weren't even
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  Speaker 1: in pads and there was juice when they were making
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  Speaker 1: plays against each other. Yeah, I didn't. Maybe I'm being
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  Speaker 1: overly critical. I mean it was great, it was a
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  Speaker 1: nice day. I thought they worked well. I thought there
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  Speaker 1: was a good practice, good tempo. I didn't feel the
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  Speaker 1: energy though. That movie, Allen Meg was impressive. Now we
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  Speaker 1: if you want to get into the individual players that
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I'm happy we can do that. But there's
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  Speaker 1: some highlights and some low lights. We'll get to some
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  Speaker 1: of those highlights and low lights as we move along.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a two hour program tonight. One guy not
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  Speaker 1: here though. It's a big storyline. Of course, this camp
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  Speaker 1: unique and Goquay not with the Jaguars holding out. What's
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  Speaker 1: the deal, Pete, what's the latest you're hearing? What do
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  Speaker 1: you expect over the next couple of weeks with the story? Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to show up by next week or he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose his accrude season. So you know he's coming in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that's a given. He's not gonna lose
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  Speaker 1: that season. He will be in there now. You know,
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  Speaker 1: people I talked to the Jaguars don't want him upset
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  Speaker 1: when he comes in. The problem is there's some people
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  Speaker 1: in that building. I won't name names who don't like
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  Speaker 1: to negotiate with guys when they're not in camp, so
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  Speaker 1: that leads to trouble. And you know, I heard from
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  Speaker 1: the other side of he you know that the that
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  Speaker 1: the numbers aren't accurate. And look, if he turned down
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  Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars a year, he's crazy. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: the age I think he's gonna get the twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: which I heard in initial was twenty two, and then
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars offered eighteen, then it was the nineteen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and now I've had disputed whether that's even accurate. If
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  Speaker 1: they give offered him nineteen million dollars a year and
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a four year deal from what I heard,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they want, then why would you take that
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  Speaker 1: You're never gonna have an opportunity to make that nineteam back. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a four year extension, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: he's he'll he'll be a five year deal in essence,
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  Speaker 1: will be this year in about four years, four years
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  Speaker 1: of new money from new money, and so and I'm
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  Speaker 1: hearing anywhere from four years seventy two to four years
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  Speaker 1: seventy six million, eighteen and nineteen with about forty eight guaranteed.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were that, if you were
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  Speaker 1: the agent, would you take it. Yeah, he'll be twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight years old when this twenty nine years when he's
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  Speaker 1: ready for another contract, would you look at and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna use this because this is I'm playing. I'm the team. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean i'm the agent. De Marcus Lawrence and and
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  Speaker 1: Frank Clark both got deals that are higher than that.
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  Speaker 1: They also, uh well, Lawrence went to free agency, so
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get more in free and so you want
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  Speaker 1: to go you want you want to roll the dice
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  Speaker 1: and go to free agency. Great, you'll maybe you'll get more.
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  Speaker 1: You want to play that game, happy to play. I'll
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  Speaker 1: play the team. Happy to play that game. If you're
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  Speaker 1: him and you played for the contract this year, you're
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  Speaker 1: putting it what was it two point two? He's getting
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  Speaker 1: this year and know what it is, and then you're
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  Speaker 1: risking seventeen million you may never get back if you want.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to do that, go ahead. Frank Clark
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  Speaker 1: got traded. He had one year left in his deal.
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  Speaker 1: I believe um right, that's fine. You know, like, what
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  Speaker 1: do you say to people Okay, I've heard this one
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  Speaker 1: out there. They redid Linder with a couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and made him the highest paid center of the league. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they had to spend money back then, and they also
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  Speaker 1: had cap. They were literally so far to the cap
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  Speaker 1: they had to spend money. Every year was different. You
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. I mean, here's yeah, but you can.
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  Speaker 1: You can also you could also if you really want
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  Speaker 1: to get the deal done twenty, you could get it
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  Speaker 1: done twenty. Okay, I'm just telling you. If I was
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  Speaker 1: the team, I would say, we want you here, we
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  Speaker 1: love you here, we want here. I'm not spending a
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  Speaker 1: dollar more this year. So here's the deal. Come out
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  Speaker 1: of six if you want love to have you, and
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  Speaker 1: this is the final offer. If you don't, then play
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  Speaker 1: for two point two and we'll franchise you at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year. And you're gonna make fifteen sixteen
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  Speaker 1: falling year instead of making nineteen and nineteen the two
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  Speaker 1: years thirty eight, you'll make fifteen and two. He makes seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: So like it's like, what do you want to do?
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  Speaker 1: If I were him, I would take the nineteen. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the other thing I don't If I was the team,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about him being mad at me, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not here to make friends like this isn't like hey, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: like let's go fishing together, Like we need you to
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  Speaker 1: be happy. Like your job is to be a pressional
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  Speaker 1: athlete and go play football and if you like, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to do that here, I'll pay you eighteen
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  Speaker 1: million bucks to do it. Nineteen million. And what you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do is he gonna mope around and not play
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  Speaker 1: hard because he doesn't, then he's not gonna get paid
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  Speaker 1: the falling here, right, So I like that, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that. I don't think he'd be that guy,
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  Speaker 1: though he loves the game so much. Right, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: playing the I'm just playing on the GM side. If
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  Speaker 1: I was ther gym, now I could play your side too,
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  Speaker 1: But for me, it's harder to play on side because
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the leverage I have. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: leverage do I have? I always get stuck as they
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: call me on, do they not? Yes? Yeah, you also
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  Speaker 1: get confused between sports codes and sports coaches. Good call,
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  Speaker 1: good call. Lets That was only three years ago, but
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  Speaker 1: good call. But my point is if we still have
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  Speaker 1: it somewhere though. We would never get rid of that.
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  Speaker 1: I could argue yournique side as well, but it's harder
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the leverage. Like I don't buy
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  Speaker 1: and maybe teams do this. I want everyone happy. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't buy that. No, I don't either. Everybody's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be happy all the time. I don't buy it. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna make everybody happy. You'd have the worst
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  Speaker 1: cap situation in the world. My goal is a team
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: running a team isn't to make everyone happy, is win
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: football games. I'm with you when gets done. I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it gets done. I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I would think.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I cannot imagine Comin said says, take the
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: eight because the most you're gonna get in the next
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: two years if you play it out and have this
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: year get to and let's think about this. So if
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you played this year for two and then they franchise,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: and the franchise number by then, I'll be top five.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: So let's say it's seventeen million dollars nineteen million over
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: two years. That's what they have the ability to do.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: If you're the Jags. What they're saying is we're gonna
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: pay you thirty seven thirty eight over the next two years.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: MM a lot of money. I don't understand a lot
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of money about Tony. What about him getting pinged for
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: his run defense? We need negotiate with him. I would
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was the team he would I would like, I'm playing
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: GM now, yeah, I'm all right, I'm playing I'm playing agent.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But but so you don't you don't think my client
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: plays the run very well. He chased down a lot
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: of places. Yeah, I know he gets engulfed at the
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: point sometimes, but it's still I don't think. I think
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: teams cover him up. They moved the tighten to a side,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: uh purposely, and they double team him, and it's He's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: not a very He's two uter and forty pounds if
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: your player is two h forty pounds. So, yes, he
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: is a productive pass rusher who makes plays. But in
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: sixteen games last year, yes, he had nine and a
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: half sacks, which is a good year, not a great year.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Let's not kill us Sarles. Now, he didn't have twelve
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: fifteen sacks last year. That's the other thing. He had
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks last year. But he also
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: has a ton of pressures and total tackles he didn't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: even have. He didn't he didn't even have two tackles
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: a game. I'm the agent, Yeah, Tony, you're the GM
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: at all. But you know what, if you don't win
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: this year, you're probably not gonna have a job. Oh
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that's great if you're and guess what is that not
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the reality of that whole situation? Very fair, mr Agent.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: And if your client doesn't show up, he's not gonna
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: get paid anything. He's gonna show up and he's gonna play.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But if he plays good, if he plays bad, he'll
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: make no money the following year. I know. But you're
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: not gonna be there to make that decision. If he
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: plays well, you will I'll be here he plays If
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: he plays well, maybe you will be Maybe you won't
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: be because he doesn't. He's not in great shape by
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the time he gets there, because you didn't give him
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a new contract, right if I don't. If I give
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: M a new contract here, I might not be here
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and I might get fired. Anyways, what does it matter.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I'm what's in the best interest? Why not give him
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the new contract because I don't think it's the best money.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: If he has a great year, if he has a
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: great year. You're gonna bask in it. I don't think
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: paying him twenty million dollars is in the best interests
• 19:53
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• 19:56
  Speaker 1: be the best interests of the franchise, So why do
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you make it the best interests of yourself? My best
• 20:00
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• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I'll be here because I might not be here if
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I pay him. But if you're him, now you're talking
• 20:10
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• 20:16
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• 20:23
  Speaker 1: seems like he went around in circles. A good bit there,
• 20:25
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• 20:28
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  Speaker 1: So the question. So there was an earlier this JP Shaddick,
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  Speaker 1: that's Tony was Selly Pete Briscoe Jaguars Happened, presented by
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, and there was an earlier question in the
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  Speaker 1: in the armored car with the bags of money and
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  Speaker 1: the hype man, right, and the hype man said something
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  Speaker 1: doing all this stuff to get right. So one of
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the questions I think from Mike do Roco of ESPN
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: was about what does the eight master locks really meant you?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, just your stopped reaching stuff, man, quit reaching.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: But we went from that to people not waking up
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: this morning, and he went on that was his last speed. Yes, okay,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: good Hey, um, if you don't, don't wake up Hayton.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Though I'm not a hater. By the way, Pete claims
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that he abused you in the last segment. That's great.
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  Speaker 1: He is a I'm not gonna say, um, you want.
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  Speaker 1: One of the reasons you've got to be smart when
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you like figure out who you're gonna pay is because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you're gonna to pay that guy a bunch of money. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you're true. That one's going to get the highest paid
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: defensive back in the league. Yeah, he's the best player
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: in this position. You have to pay a ton of money.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And the back and forth we had with Unique, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: want you Unique on this football team. I'm just saying,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay your early, you want some discount.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: If you're the team, you always get more when you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: get the free agency, and you have to be realistic
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: what you can pay certain individuals because of how you
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: build out the rest of the roster. So it's not
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like I'm not saying Unique is a fabulous player. By
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the way, and if I was Unique, I'd want twenty
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: one million dollars too. I want as much as I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: possibly can get. And this is where the negotiation comes
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: back to the team. The good the teams that do
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: this right, they have a number and they don't go
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: beyond it for that individual or that position when they're
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: building the rosters. Whatever that number is, whether it's eighteen, nineteen,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: twenty million, you can't go beyond it. Patriots set that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: number and they don't move and they got somebody else.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: And by the way, they don't care who you are.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: That's right, they will let you go in a heartbeat. M. Well,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: they won't let the coaching quarterback go. Why would they
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: should that? But but but interesting enough, Tom Brady has
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: never been the highest play quarterback. Yeah, well then you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: know there's yes, he's like I used to have chats
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: with guys in the league. They said, go back and
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: look at his numbers. He makes a plenty of money.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: They keep redoing that deal when he gets cash in
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and get capped down. And you know, there's some theory
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: out there. I don't believe it that he uh he
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: gets some side money from illegal you know, from that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: having that thing inside the facility there. But he also
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: has a wife billion dollars a year. What does that
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: have to do with anything? How much he should be paid?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Though nothing, then he should Then that's his problem. If
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: he's not the highest paid quarterback in the league, when
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in the league. Who's problem is that? Tony?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: As it is, he's being a moron. I agree with you.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: By the way. My point is bad too, unique is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you can't pay everyone top money. No, I agree with you,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Okay for prioritizing Jalen's number one right quarter then him
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on the defense. Yeah, pass rusher's next. So if it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be him, yes, is Miles after that? No? I don't.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I always have to be determined this year. Yeah, I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: would put linebackers, I put interior defensive line. I put
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the defense rusher into your defensive line corner ahead of linebacker. Correct. Although,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: like I was just in Tampa yesterday, Tony they drafted
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: an off the ball linebacker fifth overall and Devin White
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because the way the game, you know, if that guy
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: stays on the field, cover passes like that different. Bobby
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Wagner just got seventeen a year, right, and he's a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: great player. So now it also depends how good the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: guy is Bobby Wagner. If if Myles Jack becomes Bobby Wagner,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: then he's a priority. So it's all about it's not
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: just everyone wants to rank positions, but you have to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: rank the player at that position as well. Um, so
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Myles Jack would be up there, but he's gonna have
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: a good year this year. He's gotta Like. I don't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: think Miles Jack has earned top five linebacker money at
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this point. I don't think. Well, he's a very talented kid,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: but I haven't seen it. Um And when you and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: when you go early with a guy like they are
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: with your unique, then you don't expect to pay what
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the guy would get in free agency. That doesn't make
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it right, Pete. But still they did it. I'm not saying, okay,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but who they had to spend it on somebody? I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: they can. But if they wanted to fix this to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: make it that way, they can, we can spend it
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: on somebody. They could spend it all different. I think
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: back then two years ago, they had a they had
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: not spent enough in the cap. They had to spend
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: more money. They had to they were so far under
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the cap and cash spent they had to spend it. Well,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he still got a deal that made him the hight
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: paid center leau when he had two years left of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: this deal. All right, so what do you want me
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to do? You were arguing with me. I'm just giving
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you stuff back. I'm not arguing you with you on
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that deal. First of all, just because you do one deal,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that doesn't set the precedence for the rest of the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: deals you do. I mean, you never done this. Because
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you did it, that's fine. But if you make a mistake,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Linda was a mistake. But let's
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: say you made a mistake in the contract, or you overpaid,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you did something that you looked at you like, I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that. By the way, I'm not saying
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Linda's that example. As a GM and as a team,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you can step back and say we're not doing that again. Okay,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Well then you have to say that that we're done
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: with that. We're done with that. Maybe that I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they might do it again. They offered him a contract,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: didn't They unique know that, but the offers out there though.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: My point is they're saying, pizzaying go up higher. I'm like,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have to go any higher. Look,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I see it from both sides. I understand where he's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: understand why it would be hard to pay him twenty
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: one million dollars a year. But I know that if
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm the general manager slash coach, it's last president of team.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: If that thing goes to four and twelve, I'm not
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: gonna care about what the cap looks like next year.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's a good point. So but back to Jalen.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So we got I mean, because they're gonna have to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: pay Jalen if unless jail gets hurt. Let's hope he doesn't.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: They're paying Jalen here next year. They're paying him next year.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: They got the end of his fourth year. They'll pay
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: him the rip at the fifth year deal and they'll
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: pay and they should. And a lot has been made
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: about this whole brank struck and the things Jalen says,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: quit reaching, tone, don't be reaching. I don't think. I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a big deal. I never have. Like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the only thing I wouldn't bother anybody in that building
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: either thought it was funny. The only thing that ever
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: bothered me that Jalen did was his comments in GQ
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: when he's talking poorly about his own teammates and coaches
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: about how they called the game and oh, you know
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: about the quarterback and then he and then it bothered
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: me when he started taking personal shots at other NFL players.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: It just seemed like it was there was no reason
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to do it. And I said it last year, and
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I would tell I mean, that's how I feel. Other
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: than that, Jalen is a smart guy, plays plays hard,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: he's in shape, he's professional, he plays hurt. Yeah, he
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: does things that are goofy sometimes and I ain't funny
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: more than anything else. You guy hasn't missed a game. Yeah, no,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he's a tough time. I just so like the whole
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: brinkstruck and some of the things he says on Twitter,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Like whatever, guy plays? What else you want? The only
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: thing that bothered them as a staff and everything in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the front office and everything was those comments GQ about
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks anything like that stuff. This stuff they
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: didn't care about. This is fun. But even you would
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: admit the g Q stuff was a little too much.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I love me personally, I love it. But you liked
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: it when he touched shots at Bortles and Doug maron
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the play calling. Yeah, that that you can't take shots
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: of your own team. That's what you said. You're okay
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: with that. No, it wasn't a you said. You weren't
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: okay with what he said about the other quarters. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: didn't like that. I hated the stuff he said about
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: his teammates. Yeah, I don't like you taking shots publicly.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Your teammates do it like you used to do when
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: used to take shots to him to me privately, that
• 33:40
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• 33:45
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• 33:48
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• 33:52
  Speaker 1: impressed with Nick. He's making us better. He's making us
• 33:54
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• 33:55
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• 34:18
  Speaker 1: didn't really say a lot there, but he did. The
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  Speaker 1: first part was nothing, you know, he said nothing outside
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  Speaker 1: what he said true? Is it not true? What he said?
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• 35:30
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  Speaker 1: have been paid. That's not what I said, did you.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I heard, and I thought it was very mean.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be nice to see straight Cash. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: And crossfire that's coming clouds away from him is what
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  Speaker 1: he needs to get It was like the fluorescent like
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  Speaker 1: Marquis Lee there. Let's stay on and there's dj J.
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  Speaker 1: You say, what's this say? I like to reading the
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• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the motto that because it was hype over humble last year,
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  Speaker 1: after this that Jalen showed up in the armored car.
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  Speaker 1: So which is it was the best entrance of anyone.
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  Speaker 1: DD Westbrook Pete, I know you spoke with him. We
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  Speaker 1: But d D the first few days of practice he's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: making diving catch as he's doing things over the middle. Yes,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I get it, Tony, it's four days into camp, but
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: it's it's been one of the bright spots so far.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: What did you take away from your conversation with d D. Pete? Well,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost, I think he said he's
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: much more comfortable as a player. I mean he you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: And I give kena mccartel, Tony's old teammate, a lot
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of credit because you can see the difference in his
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: route running. He's much better, he's much more comfortable, he's
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: not thinking as much and and I think a lot
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: of that has to do with Keena mccartell. But the
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me was what he talked
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: about last year. And you know, I was just doing
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: an on camera interview with d D and we were
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: talking about a bunch of topics and I asked him
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: about last year and he kind of went all in.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys have the quote,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: but I'll read you part of it. We had a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: bunch of individuals who wanted things for themselves, pay time
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: for certain guys, if you know what I mean those guys.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I love them to death. They're selfish ball. It's a
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: team sport. You have one person feuding with another person.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Then you got the same person that's cool with the
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: other two or two or three other people, and then
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: they are going to shy away from the same guy
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: as well because they feel like he's turning their on
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: their brother or the person they're driving with when they
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: leave the facility. So it's tough. With that being said,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: it's going to separate people. That's an everyday life. That's
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: not just in the locker room, it's everywhere about that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: That's actually a pretty strong statement for a young player.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: And then I asked, I asked a J boy about it,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, we were focused on individual success.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I mean they you know, they understand, they know what
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: happened last year. They're well aware of it. I think
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: they want no part of anything like that. This year.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: What changed? I mean I got rid of some guys.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: You think you think with some guys are gone? And
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: do you think it's for the guys who stayed a
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: eye opening kind of humbling experience that they say, we're
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: not interested in doing that again. Yeah? I do. And
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you know it's interesting because another thing that was mentioned
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: was Nick Foles and the cash he has with winning
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl title and winning an m v P
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and everything else. I think that gives him some cache
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  Speaker 1: and he could stand up and guy, So listen, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: you know this. You've been around that team a long
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  Speaker 1: long time. If there's nobody in the locker room that's gonna,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you know, stand guys down, it's gonna get out of control.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And in this story, I even wrote this, at times
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Glass Gampbell would stand up and they'd shoot him down,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: which was total and it did it in a disrespecting way,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: which is garbage. Okay, because he's a prose pro. So
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys have stepped back from
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: a year ago and realized, look, we're not winning if
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: we do this garbage again, we're not winning football games.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be a disaster. So focus forget about all
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the individual stuff that will come as you play well
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: and the team gets better. Well, that's where you need
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: somebody who's been on winning teams and won the Super
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Bowl that looks around and all the knuckleheads and says,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you guys want to keep on going down this, you're
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the same spot you were last year,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: which is at home when everyone else is in the playoffs.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And then if because as a player, what are you
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: gonna talk that guy down? Because then he just comes
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: back and says, listen, I've done it, kissed the ring
• 43:56
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• 43:58
  Speaker 1: when you get to where I've been in And by
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the way, um, in case anybody's wondering, that was almost unsolicited.
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  Speaker 1: And you know me, Tony, back in the day, I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: would go in and I could find a way to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: get a story out of that. And I was just
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: asking the questions and it kind of came to me
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and came just he was willing and wanted to say that,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: did you dig did you dig deeper to get names
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of players? Um? I know some of the names already.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to put him out there, but I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: know did you do too? Did you do too? Did
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you dig deeper to get them? Um? I've I've known
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: him for a while. You know you're missing Let me
• 44:36
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• 44:40
  Speaker 1: bulldog and I'm seeing if the edges have been softened
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and rounded out. That's not softened. I know who they are.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I just I mean no. But in the past, you
• 44:48
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• 44:51
  Speaker 1: got them to tell you who they were, even but
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: not on camera, projects, not camera, off camera, off camera.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying you never embarrassed anyone on camera, that's true.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Were you able to robbing him enough to get the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: names for out of him that he was talking about? Oh,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't get him to say it, but I did
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: get boy to say it. You know who they are.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name. I know you're not gonna name.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Why not, Pete? Why not? I mean you name them,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: you can name you figure it out. You can be
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: easy to figure out. You're the one claiming there's names.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Give us the names. I'm not going to put the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: names out there because I don't have it all documenting. Like,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: oh okay, a journalist that put just throw names out there,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you got more work to do. It sounds like, let's
• 45:36
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• 45:38
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• 45:44
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• 45:47
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• 46:23
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• 46:25
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• 46:28
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  Speaker 1: can I say something real quick about that the NFL
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: is going to a terrible trend of closing practices. How
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: should camp? How so? Who who's closing? The Eagles had
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: one open practice to the public one They had two
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: last year, didn't they. I mean the Jags are closed
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: in practice earlier. I mean right, it was a terrible trend.
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  Speaker 1: What's the point of it? Is it the idea to
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: attract young fans in that was used to be one
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of the great things when I was a kid to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: go to training camp practice. So I'll say this as
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a young kid growing up in Colorado, the Broncos had
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: training camp in Greeley, which is north hour north of Denver.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I grew up Boulders. It's like an hour and fifteen
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: minutes at the Greeley and one of the highlights for
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: me every summer was going up because I didn't get
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't get to go to a very
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: many games, go to practice and watch practice and then
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: run around and get autographs from your players. So don't
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: you agree it's a bad trend. How many open practices
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars have this year, and they're a credit
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: to them because they're very open with the fans and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: they have more than most teams, but most teams are
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: closing them. They had seven open. One of those was
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: season ticket members only, that was Saturday. The rest are
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: open to the public, so six open to the true public.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I would have they also, and they also go to
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Baltimore for a couple of days, so that kind of
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: so that's nine. I think if it was me and
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I was I would probably have everything open until the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: regular season started all months. I would have everything open. Now.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I'd probably do some combination because I actually like the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: idea if you're a season ticket holder, maybe he gets
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: some extra access or something. So I like how the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Jaguars do that kind of stuff, so maybe I do
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: special for them. I like that. So maybe maybe only
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: five of them or six of them be general public
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to rest, but if you're a season ticket holder, I
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: would say, listen, you can come to every practice we
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: have until opening day at what until opening week because
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: because you need to start putting in game plans preparation.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Now is this Is there a scrimmage next to Saturday?
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Has that been done away with? Correct? You know? Is
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the sage in the stadium? Practice in the stadium. It's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a glorified practice in the stadium, but it's it's a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: morning time and it's closed to the public. Yeah, they're
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: not doing the how they used to do the Saturday
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: night deal. Yeah see, And to me, that's that's a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: mistake too. All right, that's just me. And I'm not
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: criticized the Jaguars. It's all across the league here. I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: would open up. And this is the perspective I'm having.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Is interesting because when I was at USC my first
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: two three years, there was a guy in Larry Smith,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: God rest is soul. He passed away, um, and everything
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: was closed, Like I was afraid to ask if my
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: parents could come half the time. And by the way,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: my sons at Florida State, their practice are closed this year,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: two parents and everybody, And I understand that's one perspective.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: John Robinson came in and not only were practices open,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they were open all year regardless of who we played,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and any student could walk into the practice field and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: sit there and watch practice. At all times any day.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: And then a coach came in I think was hacking.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I think he closed it again. And then Pete Carroll
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: came back in and he did what John Robinson did.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: It was open, like you want to come hang out
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and watch practice anyone, and like John Robinson's like, we're
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: gonna do the same thing. We're gonna I mean, what
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: are we hiding? Everyone gets tape? Well, then I used
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to tell I used to tell I've told many a coach.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I used to tell Thomas all the time, close your
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: practice all you want. If I was out on the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: practice field, I couldn't report the stuff that you guys
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: did out there. If I'm not on the practice field
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and two or three players tell me somebody moved or
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do something different, I could write it. They
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: they don't think it out big picture. There's no if
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you're going to close it to media or whatever or
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: close it to the fans and you're not thinking big picture.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I can see during games close it to the fans.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: But I would would. I would open up to everybody.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't on a Wednesday afternoon in the middle of
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the season. I'm talking camps. No in camp. I'm just
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: telling you. In college, in college beat all year long,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: we're playing U c l A, Notre Dame. I don't
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: care who it is. That practice was open and there
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: be people walking in, watch a little bit walk out,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and it was cord cording off where you can be
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and couldn't be. But it still could have been a
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: coach from u c l A or a cousin of
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: the coach at U c l A watching the practice.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Guess what what do they? I mean, I get it,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. But the other side of it,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you get film. It was the end of the what
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: else are you gonna put in? I could also see, like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: don't you think the Chiefs have somebody watching the Jaguars
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: practices when they're open? Sure? Why not? Yeah? And the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are probably watching the Chiefs practice. That's fine. Why
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you? Of course? But my point is it's training camp.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I would not go that far in the regular season,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: but training training camp should be fun. It should you
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: work for the players and fun for the fans, and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: there should be more interaction. The bottom line the NFL
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: is getting away from it, guys. Bottom line is this
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: game is driven by people watching the NFL on TV
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and coming to games and all the spots ship around it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: That's what drives it. You gotta encourage it, all, right, guys.
• 56:25
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• 56:28
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• 56:30
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• 56:33
  Speaker 1: those JP. We gotta get back to that. We've got
• 56:35
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• 56:39
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  Speaker 1: Sully and Jacksonville, Pete Prisco Town in South Florida. Glad
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  Speaker 1: you're along with us. No calls tonight. We'll get some
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• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: open the phone lines, will we really? I don't think
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: that's right up your alley, Tony, Yeah, but yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: have Twitter. I like the Twitter interaction. I mean we
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: can open up the call lines. Not tonight, we'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: I like when we have I like we have callers
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: because it gets under your skin so much. It's easy,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: it really is. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: let that kind of stuff bother me anymore. Pete, some
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: band calls up, you're gonna get all of the one.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I've been meditating more and really focusing on inter peace,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: and uh, I'm not gonna let pro football focus or
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: callers bother You've been doing yoga too, No, I just
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: meditate on my own meditate to meditate, yeah, interpeace. I'll like,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: for how long do you meditate? I try to get
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: two or three hours in the morning. You do not?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Pretty good? That's a pretty good morning, right, Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you have two hours of the morning to meditate. You
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: do not. I'll give that much time in the morning
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to meditate. What do you get up depend in the morning?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: It depends on time I get up. But if I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: give up four, which I try, that's the latest I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: get up. I go for two hours of meditation and
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: what I read and focus and meditate interpeace. Reading is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: not me no, but I read and get a thought
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and then I meditate and quiet myself to focus on that.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Did you say hold on did you just say that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: four o'clock is the latest you? And then I and
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: then I go to the Then I go to the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: gym and I try to get an hour and our
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and a half of the workout, and I come home. I, Uh,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going trying to really start eating clean and so
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I'm moving away from gluten and preservatives. All natural diet
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: looks like it. That's not nice. I'm just just saying.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know. I thought, Tony, Tony,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you didn't look big at all. You didn't look big
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: at all to me. And then from there, I then
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: it's about by that time, it's about eight o'clock and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I start my day. I'm at peace. You know. I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: was kind of think about I was gone from You've
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: gone from like a baby plate of five hundred calories
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: under the last diet to eat and twigs and berries.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing now? Well, I'm just trying
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: to be more natural, be at one with a lot
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: of carrot juice, and be at one with myself and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and uh and just really just love people. Well, if
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I sit there and try and meditate, I would have
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: thoughts going through my mind and things I gotta get
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: done well. I mean, Pete, if you want to meet
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: me at four am, we can. I can give you.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I can show you what I do and it really
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: clears my mind and gets me ready for the day.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I'll meet you coming in four am. About just say,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: I saw you about four am in London, but you
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: weren't just getting up. Let me tell you, I don't
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: believe one word he just said. Nothing, not a maybe
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the eating clean part of it, but that's about it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: If you have I think you have, Pete going there
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: for a second. You can't see me meditating for two
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: hours in the right pele. I can't see you meditating
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: for five minutes. You don't think I have inter peace
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: after the technic, after the texts, after the text messages
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: we shared ongoing struggle. You don't think I have inter
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: piece after the text messages as we shared. No, No,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you have piece. Let's um, let's continue our conversation. Let's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: go offensive line. You know, keep skipping the linebacker. We're
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna get the linebackers during cross fire. That's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: coming up. Next time. We're gonna discuss Lenard Tornet. We're
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: gonna discuss the linebacker situation. That's all coming right. Um,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the left tackle position, Cam Robinson is done on the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: practice field, Tony. Now he's on the pup. That's a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: physically unable to perform list with that for everyone who
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: is listening doesn't know what that is. So, um, he's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: not taking an official roster spot, so they can get
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: someone else to fill that ninety man roster. Uh, they
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: can bring him off of it anytime they want, though
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: they have to cut somebody to bring him off, but
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: his knee was not ready for them to for him
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: to start practicing full Talking to him, Um, you know
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: he's excited to get back out there. I think somewhere
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: second preseason, we're gonna see him, um out on the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: field a couple of weeks. The one pee is gonna
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: be out here in Jackson. That's like a two and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: a half weeks ago. I think, well, I think we'll
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: see in a couple of weeks on the field. I'm
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: not saying, I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: say that he's gonna play in the second preseason game,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: but that's what we're gonna start seeing him. I think
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: for sure he plays in the third preseason game at
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: left up. Well week did he get He got hurt
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: in week to September. So by the time he plays
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: a game is gonna be clear eleven months, probably twelve months,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: almost eleven months before he plays a That seems like
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: a long time for an a c L to me.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody is different. The reab process is different for everybody. Um,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't know uh what are their damage
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: was done in there, the process, the healing process, how
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the body heals and repairs itself with the scarring everything.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: So I think it's dangerous to start making assumptions for
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: any individual player, um, when it comes to a major
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: injury like this. Now, if it was a year and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a half, i'd start worrying. At this point, I'm not
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: quite worried yet. I'm worried as could something like this.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: I can't help him because technique, you gotta practice this technique.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: You were always concerned about his technique, So that's so
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not concerned. I think the knee is gonna be fine.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: What I concerned about is the fact that he needs
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: reps because it's not like his technique was great when
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, and we talked about all last camp
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and so I hope he's getting reps by himself on
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: his footwork and is his sets and positioning of his
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: hands and like mentally going through it and working on
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: air because he needs reps. That's what concerns me. I
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: think the need will be fine come season, but the
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: amount of reps in the time away from football is concerning.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: He's still gonna go there and do it full speed
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: on the knee though at some point. Yeah, that's mental.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: His kneed's gonna be structurally fine. He'll be strong enough.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Mentally it's gonna be I told my story and I'll
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: share it here. I remember I came back after I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: had a c L Sir Dree end of January. Uh,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: played the last preseason game, so what's that seven half
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: months or whatever it is? Eight months? And played ten
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: plays and we play Cleveland Opening Day. And I had
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: told everyone I'm playing sixteen games next year and I'm
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: starting opening Day. I remember Tom Company says you should wait.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm playing, It's non negotiable. Told him yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, Tony is the only
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: guy in history called what ever told the weight? And
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: so I get on the private jet coming back from
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Steve the whole deal. So I get on the field
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and uh, first play of the game. First play of
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: the game is empty sixty two scatt meaning the center
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: sliding right. I am one on one with the defensive end, shotgun,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: silent count opening day, places packed, going crazy. So I'm
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: like great, And so at that point, Mike, here we
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: go and I take my pass set he barely touched me,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and I fell down. And now I kicked him, so
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: he didn't make the sack, but I literally he barely
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: touched me. I fell down. Now it wasn't because my
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: knee was ready. Mentally, I was like freaking out. It
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: was the greatest thing that happened, because I literally looked,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: got up, walked back to the hood and like, you
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: better figure this out now. This is the conversation with myself.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: You better figure it out now, because if you don't,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get embarrassed for the next sixty minutes. And
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: so I remember the rest of the game. I went
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: out there and I just said, forget technique, forget everything,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: go fight the guy across from in and go play football.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: And I played. He had I think he had two assists.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: The rest of the day. So you you made it
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: back in eight on stand right, eight months? Well okay,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: and so Cam Robinson is probably smart to take a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: little bit more time because look up, broken down, your
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: body is at your old age. First no, first of all,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: my knee is fine. Nothing to do with my shoulder.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Then he's the best part of his body right now.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: That's good, that's a good story. I didn't realize that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: you got knocked I forgot you got knocked over the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: first way. I was like, you gotta be kidding me.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like even a good pass rush.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: He just barely touched, like fell, crumpled JP. That wasn't
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the time they flew him back on the private plane.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: That was the baby knee injury. And Steven's point me,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: excuse me, but my point, and I told him the story.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I said, listen, man, you just gonna go do it,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: because mentally you're going to go through this process of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: is my knee and hold up and it might be
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: some rough moments. But he's a fighter. He's a fighter,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that's one thing he is. He is, and that's when
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: you literally you just have to go out there and said,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and fight the guy. My
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: knee is fine, and then you work your way in
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: then by the and I told him, by week eight,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I felt great. I played every game that year. I
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: felt great at the end of the year, and I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: was back to playing. Tony. Let me ask you this though,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: as as a left tackle back then and practice, when
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: you're getting or when you get first get where you
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: tentative to to set and plant? Was that intendative to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: do that? I was tendive, not going forward like in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the run blocking, I was okay there, but pass blocking
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: on a power move and sitting down and really trusting
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: that knee was gonna hold up. Yeah, yeah, I figured that,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: but it was fine. The knee was structurally fine. I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: had strength and just mental right, and that's usually it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: like a wide receiver when heards his knee, put his
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: foot in the ground, plant and cut. Yeah, it's a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: mental thing. How about the other side here, right tackle?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Hold on before we go there, because right now, let's
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: talk about what's that left tackle? I mean, you're you're
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: have two guys. Leonard Wester, who was a free agent
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: out of Tampa, played two years in tamp but from
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Missouri Western Division two school. One start in his career.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: He's one of your left tackles. And then Jonathan Wells.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Josh Wells, I said it a purpose just gets you
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: have the roster in front of you. I know that's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: why I said on purpose. It's Josh well As I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: see it right here. That doesn't make any sense. Does
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: he say that all the time? J Yes, Yes, it
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: was a joke. I've said it last year. It was hilarious. Tote. Okay, fine,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't go over like I thought it would. I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: thought you'd get a kick out of it. Josh Wells. Um,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Josh Wells is the other left tackle, so you have
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: and he's a guy who JP I think we all
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: say is like he plays good, but he doesn't stay healthy. Okay,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: but that as a backup tackle. You're like, okay, I
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: like that, but he he can't stay healthy, and so
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: you wonder, you know, that's what you worry about his health.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: But you have two guys, and if Cam Robbins is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: not ready, one of those two guys is your left tackle.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: But you're confident he's gonna be ready camp. Yeah, but
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I also thought he'd be ready for camp. Well,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: they could also play a buoy over there. It's not
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: what's his name? Beats it again? A boy? Yeah, No,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: you don't get to make it like if I would
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: have done that, you would have been burying me right now. No, no,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: it's not whatever you just said. There you saying like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: you threw up in your mouth again. It's a boy.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: He good job. He could play left pete. You know
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: what it was when when he was in Cincinnati all
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: they used to call him with Saul I got has
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: never got his name? Boy about that? No, Look, he
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: could play left tackle if he had to, and they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: could play the rookie at right tackle, right, I mean
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: that could be this situation as of right now. Though
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: he's got no reps at left tackle. That's right. Yeah,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: he's all he's been at. I'm just telling you we
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: have seen no reps with him there. So do you
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: think he's the starting right tackle then? No, I think
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Taylor is. Yeah, I think he should be right. He's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: he's impressed, has he been? He looked at day? I
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: was there impressed. I'll say this. Taylor's feet look really good.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: He's moving well. He's hands are a little bit wide,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: so he clamps a little bit not abnormal for young
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: tackles or any tackle. Um, my biggest thing is he's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: going to be careful because boy, he likes to anticipate
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: that snap count and he gets off right at the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: border line of getting called for a false start. But
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: he has good feet and I think he's looked good
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: so far early in camp. Tony, when you say he
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: is hands get why is that holding? You're worried about
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: holding penalties? Uh? Yeah, I'm getting powered. If a guy
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: gets his hands inside of you can get powered back
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier, just overall leverage. But yeah, holdings
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: part of it. Okay, Yeah, I mean so. But you
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: think it'll be him from the right from the week one?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I like that. I do, Okay, I would. I would
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: expect that myself. But and and but he wasn't running
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: with the first team when I was there, which was
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the first day. You put the veteran in there, right,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and then they're moving guys around right now. That's what
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Doug Moron said, don't look too much into the depth
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: chart thing, right can and uh, well A J. Cannon
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: was playing center with a second team the other day,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: and Andrew, No, I didn't say that. I said that
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: if they're going to move some guys around certain positions.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: He said, don't look too deep into that right now.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: But do you think they have a J. Cann working
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: with the second center so they can make him the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: swing guy and not have Shatley on the roster and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: free up to keep one of the other big guys right,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the more you can do, right. But but but the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: idea is to play Cannon. Can's the starting he's the starting,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: right card. You're moving around, you're getting you're you're getting
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: all the whack there when you throw that, and it's
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: not the same thing, thank you. He's confused. He is
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: confused JPS. First confusion of the year. Well, we'll chalk
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: that one up to confusion. You had your first couldn't
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: pronounce a guy's name. That was interesting. At least that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: was last you had. At least I had his name right.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't call him John. I did it on purpose.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: It was a joke because I did it earlier. Pete,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: you couldn't even say the way he right. I said
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: that already, JP. Yeah, I got that one. Yeah, I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: already said thirty seconds ago. Jonathan Wells has doing a
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: great left tackle too, I said, did I not do
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: an offseason on purpose. I mean not by accident. I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: messed it up and I got just railed. So I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: did it on purpose there to see if I could
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: get a reaction. You got one, and JP didn't get
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: the joke. It was hilarious. I don't think so. Look,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't miss guy's name, but I got I got
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: the roster right in front of me. Yeah, I don't
• 1:15:48
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• 1:15:52
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• 1:15:56
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• 1:16:03
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  Speaker 1: with Leonard Fournette going into his third NFL season. Ashland
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: Sullivan went to New Orleans in this offseason for kids camping.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit more, here's what Fournett had to say
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  Speaker 1: is to have come into trying to camp healthy and shape,
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  Speaker 1: season for Leonard? For Nette? Yes or no? And why
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  Speaker 1: or why not? I don't know. Um, the physical ability
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  Speaker 1: is there obviously as the talent. We've seen flashes of
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: greatness from Leonard. For Nett, it's the off the field,
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room, it's the peripheral stuff. If like
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: he said, he's I thought he's what he said was accurate.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to get his mind right and be in
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: the right space to come help his team be in shape.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we heard last year mid was it late
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: in the season, midway through the season that he was
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: self confessed not in shape? Was that the last year?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: They said, remember that the start in camp this time
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: it was always back to college size again, and he's
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: in great It wasn't late in the he was not
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: in shape, and so that that can't happen and yes,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: he can't be can't get suspended and we can't have
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: these off the field distractions. I think it will be
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: opened up. The running game will be opened up because
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: of Nick Foles. Pete says all the time, and I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: agree with them. You know, the passing game helps open
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: up the running game because it gets that safety out
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: of the box. So I believe this will be I
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: don't know what we define as a breakout year. I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: believe it will be Leonard four Nette's best year. Yeah,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: what is the breakout here? JP? I mean, if you're
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: gonna ask that question, what's a breakout here, Let's say
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: let's says eight touchdowns on the ground, because because here's
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: my definition of a breakout year for Leonard Fournett, how
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: about averaging four yards to carry? Okay, I think that's fair,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: and I think the averages three point seven yards per
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: rush in his career and he is the lead back
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: of an NFL team, that's inexcusable. And I know there's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: been line woes and everything else in issues and off
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: the field issues. He's been out of shape, but he
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: has to show that he's much more than a guy
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: who could pop along run when there's a hole there,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: because there's a lot of guys in the world that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: can do that. And don't get me wrong, his run
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh, Okay, it was a great run, but you
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: take that away from his and he can't do that.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: But I get it that Tony, there are a million
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: backs who could have made that run through that hole.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: It kicked out. It was wide open. So to me,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: he's got to prove he's more then a guy who
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: could just get three five five, you know, even when
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: when the hole's there, He's got to prove to me
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: he can put his foot in the ground and cut
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: back and make a play away from where he's supposed
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: to run. And until he does that, I can't sit
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: here and say he's going to have a breakout season.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Can you develop that though, or is that just you
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Either I think you either have that or you don't.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Lighter is going to help him. I don't think there's
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: any question about that. I do think they'll use them
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: more in the passing game than than you know, what
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: do you have his first year he had thirty something
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: catches that year, thirty x or whatever it was. I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: think they'll use and get him up into that area
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: forty maybe forty one something like that, using more in
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: the screen game because he can be effective in that.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ever gonna be able to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: put his foot in the ground when there's a supposed
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: to go front side and go backside. I just don't
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: think that's who he is. So you based on that
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: either have it or you don't. You think he doesn't,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: and so you don't think he's gonna have a breakout year.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: I've never seen it. We didn't see it at L
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: s U. He was a straight line runner at L
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: s U two. I mean that that's who he is.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: So if the line box, well he gets. If the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: lines you know, average, he gets under four yards per carry? Again,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: how about that? I think he gets over four yards
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: to carry. I think the passing game helps him, it'll
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: help back off. So I agree, But but you don't
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you agree? I mean, how many times does he make
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: people miss Pete? I've been saying it since the draft night. Yeah,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: you were there, you and me, we're both preaching the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: same song that night. I mean, there's no I'm leading
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: up to it as well. Other people on our network
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: that on this network network different. But we won't we
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: won't name him. The other part of it, though, is
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna stay on the field to gotta stay healthy
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: and stay out of Trump. That's the biggest thing for me.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: He needs to not be an distraction. He's been suspended.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: He's been suspended during each of the first two years
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: for reasons that are under his control. I think that's
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: a fair statement and that can't happen. So we'll see
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: juries out on Leonard for net. Let's move along to linebackers.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: We all know what's happened with the Telvin Smith situation
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: on the reserve retired list now not with the football
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: team sold everybody, he's not gonna play football this year
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: after retired. After all that, he's on the retired reserve.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: He filed the retirement papers. So with that, are you
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: comfortable with the Jaguars lineback situation as it stands today?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Let go first this time. Look for me, I think
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Telvin was a nice player two years ago. He was
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: really a good player. Um I thought last year he
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: was not a nice player, and you know he was.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: He had a lot of tackles, But I don't think
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: he was a good football player last year, and there
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: were other issues. I mean you talk about a guy
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: you know that might have been um derailing the locker
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: room a little bit. He might have been one of them,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: And so for me, I don't think, yeah, you lose
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of tackles. I had this argument with guys
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: on on Frank Show one day, and I said, you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: lose a lot of tackles for sure, and the numbers
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: look good, but I don't think he ever played to
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: those numbers, to be honest with you, to be a
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: couple of splash plays. He made tackles, but they weren't big,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: you know, in the whole tackles. And so will they
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: miss him initially, Yeah, but I don't think that's as
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: big a loss as people make it out to be.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: For me, the linebackers will be defined by how well
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Miles Jack play is this year. This is his year,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: and Tony you mentioned it. If he could show that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: he can play anything close to what like a Bobby
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: Wagner or Luke Keithley or one of those guys can
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: play too, and I'm saying he's in that class at all,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: but close to that, then I think the linebackers will
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: be fine because I think, you know, the kid they
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: drafted can fly. You can get by with everybody else,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: but this is all about Miles Jack For me, I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: think this is the year he has to take his
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: game to the next level. I think the first half
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: of the season you're gonna see a step back at
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: the will position with Quincy Williams as your will linebacker. Nothing.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: It's Quincy's fast athletic, probably covers better than uh Talvin
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: did from the linebacker linebacker position. But he's a rookie.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be some uh growing pains. There's a learning
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: curve there for a young player, and if he comes
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: in is the starter. I think this group is deeper
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: than they've ever been. I think Jake Ryant is coming
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: off the hamstring. He ain't practicing, but he'll be back
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: here soon. Um we hope nase re Meeke Wilson. I mean,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: you have some veteran depth here that they did not
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: have last year at all, and so I think overall
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: it's a better room with more talent, which will help
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: special teams as well. I think you'll feel the loss
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: of Telvin Smith early in the year. Is it gonna
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: be monumental? Is it gonna be lose game type of
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: impact where they lose games because of it. No, but
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: there'll be a falloff between Quincy Williams and Telvin Smith
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: the first half the year, but by the end of
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the season there won't be. I don't win. I don't
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: think so. Alright, I'm with you there. You have a
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: cross fire from tonight. That's a good start, guys, where
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: to go? Yeah, I think who won? I think it
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: was probably a job. We I think we agree. Yeah,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: that was so yeah, yeah, and we can agree. I
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: thought it was a draw. I thought my points were better,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: so I give a slight edge to me. Um. I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: was disappointed there wasn't any really good hot takes in
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: really fast talking like sports talk radio. We can we
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: can get to that. I mean, it's the first many
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Pete was the master when he used to have his
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: own show of the hot takes. No, I used to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: go on that show. Take I was. I was good
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: at getting people to um get angry. I was very
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: good at But you know, it's really easy though. Back
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: in those days, all used to have to say was
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: people and any good and then we just light up
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: the city. Yeah. Hey, by the way, we have a
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: little not really breaking news. It's just some tweets. I
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: guess we were talking about unique earlier. He's had a
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: few tweets in a row in the last hour. Okay,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: what's happened? Fifty minutes ago? Five zero, he tweets quote,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: numbers don't lie, but men do. Okay. Minutes that directed
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: to there was nobody. I don't know. I think he's
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: listening to the show he's Then he said there, what
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: did I say that would make him mad? That I
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: wouldn't pay him twenty one million dollars? You wouldn't need no,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: but you were you were down paying him and everything.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's mad at you. We were playing, we
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: were play the run. I didn't say that you're the man,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: all right. The next tweet, what do you want me
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: to say? I only want to pay him nineteen million?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I want him on the team. I must really be
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: a hater. The next tweet minutes ago, we going be
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: all right, ma, that's what he says. And then twenty
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: four minutes ago, when they won't give you what you deserve,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: go take it. And then prayer hands. What's that mean?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people put a lot of the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: prayer hands out nowadays, like in just like different places
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: that I don't understand. So there you go that that
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: those happened in the last hour while we were on there.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's listening to us or somebody's
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: listening to us. I didn't. First of all, I didn't
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: bad mouth he played. You played the role of general
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: manager on the team, and you were counteracting. And but
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: is that not the role that the gms, how the
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: conversation goes in every nootiation, That's all I was doing.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I want him on the team at the man men, Lie,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: you're the man. This team is better with y on it.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about Yank and got Way is one
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: of the better pass rushers in this league. I would agree.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I think I think he needs to be there, and
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I think he will be there, and I think ultimately
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: they will agree on the between. Do you pay him
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: twenty million? No? Okay? So would you pay him nineteen no? Yes? Yes,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: and he should take that okay. So, like we're beating
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: were again, we're saying the same thing I said eighteen
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: the nineteen. You just bashed them a little bit by
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: saying a bunch of different things. And you're the man
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: he's directing his tweets at you. Yeah, you're the man.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I'll be the man. If that makes everyone feel better,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: it makes me feel better. Hey, let's come back. Well,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I guess some Twitter questions. We've got some pretty good
• 1:32:51
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• 1:32:54
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  Speaker 1: and but the the story about Julio Jones kind of
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  Speaker 1: to some Twitter questions, shall we. Let's do it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if we'll call these the besselly Twitter questions anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, Yeah, just general questions for everybody, everybody, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start off tonight with Sam I am Sheer thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: What are the thoughts on the quarterback depth? We all
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  Speaker 1: know about Nick Foles, there's some questions about who else
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  Speaker 1: is on this team. Garnerment used the draft picks Garnerment,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be your backup quarterback. Tanner Lee was on
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the practice squad last year, draft pick last year, and
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: he'll be back on the practice squad this year. Alex
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: mcgoob brought in from the c attle practice. I don't
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: think mcgo will be around. There's my there's my thoughts
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback depth, and I would agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, I like Minshew because he has
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: this attitude about him. I mean, look, he didn't he
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: didn't have to go play out there last year, but
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: he did and he played well and he has a
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: swagger about him. He's never going to be a legitimate
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback in this league, I don't think, but he
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: could be a guy come in for a game or
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: two and that's all you need out of your backup.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I think he should be the backup. He's fun to
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: talk to. At an interview with him the other day
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: on the website right now on the audio page, and yeah,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: he's so do you basey? Do you base everything on
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: whether they're fun to talk to or not? He does.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I just stated the fact that he is pretty fun
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: to talk because you know when they're when they're boring,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: they're not fun to talk to. I'm just asking and
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: he's not boring. That's how you based on, like how
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: you put the roster together, that he's gonna be great.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: He was a great interview, j P said, yeah, right,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: what a g M I would be. H. Let's move
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: on question number two. Do good one hundred after the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: first padded practice, who won the day? Offense or defense? Tony,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: you were there, I'm gonna say offense. You think so well?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I thought the offense when the one one pass rush
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: um not on seven. It's hard because they didn't. Really
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: it was close, juice, juice, I'll give offense to slight edge.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: So do you know it was that? Hold on before
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: you tell me who wasn't fair? The two minute drill
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the defense one, So I'm gonna call it a draw.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I forgot about two minutes. So so you you're you're
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: noncommittal as usual. Okay, I'll go offense slight edge. Okay,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: all right, there you go. No, I was saying, it's
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: not fair about practice no matter what level you've ever
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: played at high school, college, and you played a college
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. I didn't, but it seemed to me
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: that coaches always thought the practice was better when the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: offense had a good practice and the defense didn't, especially
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: especially if it's a offensive minded coach like here. When
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I played. Yeah, excuse me, because Tom was the head
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: coach offensive guy like, if offense didn't practice well, it
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: was a bad practice. The defense had a great practice,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Tarrell practice. If offenses great practice right the way it
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: wasn't high school. If the offense was good in practice,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: then they the coach felt good about it. It was
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: okay in practice, but I didn't. I always wondered if
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: that was the same way in college, in the same
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: way in the NFL, And it seems to be all
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: the teams I've ever covered in the NFL. For sure.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on that coach though too. Pete, Yeah,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: he did. The defensive coaches Tony over the years. If
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: you've gone to their practices, if the offense don't, they
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: thought the practice. Don't you know? You know better than
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I because you've been at more practice. But it's my
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: assumption that's the way Tom was though, for sure, Yes, yes,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: question number three at Garnett Jack eleven. I think Marcel
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: Darius is an absolute beast, but he won't be back
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: at twenty cap hit in Do you all think the
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Jags will make an effort to restructure and keep him around?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Love the show and JP or do in the European
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Street in San Marco, soon, Thank you. I appreciate that. Well,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: already restructured him this year, Yes, they did, so that's
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: not accurate. That's incorrect. Okay, great way to pick the questions, JP,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: So do you. But here's the other part. What do
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: you think he'll be around for a few years after this?
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: Tell me if he plays at a high level, yes,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't know and look, I think he's capable.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I do too. I still think he's great. I'm just saying,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: but if he performs at high level, he'll be back. Well,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's only got one more year left on
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: the deal, right, right, But my point is he's not old.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: What is he thirty? It's his next year in the league.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's got. I think he has three or
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: four more good years. But he's got. If he plays
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: at a high level and they can get the cap
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: number where they want, then he's back. Yeah he's wow. Yeah,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: I think why wouldn't you bring him back? And he's
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: look pretty pretty good shape. He looks great this year.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: He looks great, and he's a good teammate, good pro.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: He's mature. Um, he took a cap hit. I mean
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: he took uh salary reduction. This year to stay with
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: the team. Yes, I think he. I think he has
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: a big year this year. I think he's sneakily gonna
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: like quietly Remember how when he came in the league
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be a dominant interior player.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I think this is the year he has a big year.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: It's a money year for him first and foremost, So
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: I think he has a big year this year. Well,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: he was dominant. I mean he was the best, one
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: of the best interior defensive lignment in Buffalo for a
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: couple of years. Right, But I'm saying on this team
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: he will be Think you think he gets back to
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: that level? M hm, I do, Tony and and and
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: helps the contract. You've been around a league long enough
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: to know you. Can you drink? Can you drink? So?
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Can you drink soda on your own time? Please? That
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: was embarrassing. That was very unprofessional anyways, Okay, but I
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: don't care what it is. Can you not like start
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: slurping on the radio? I have a thing in my throat,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: you idiot. You want me to start joking on the air? Yes,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: question for at see Stev's if the Jagson unique and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: got quake can't come to an agreement on a deal
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: before this season begins. Is there a chance he's playing
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: on a franchise tag next year and for a different
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: team in twenty one? Both those are possible. I mean,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I think a deal is gonna get done because I
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: can't imagine him Yahny turning down eighteen nineteen whatever it
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: is and play for two and risk everything. But if
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: he does, the team still has the leverage because they
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: can franchise him at that point. I I agree, I
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: think he's Those two scenarios are definitely possible. I don't
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: think it gets to that. I just think he I
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: think he'll take a deal eventually, get his money now,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: and then worry about the next contract in four years. Alright,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: final question of that it is actually two from John Galt,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: is me number one? How will de Filippo and Warhop
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: just the offensive line blocking scheme to make the running
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: game more potent. Let's start with that one, Tony. Well,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: first of all, they're gonna open up the running lanes
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: because of the pass game. Now, when they spread people
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: out the team, they're not gonna be able to put
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: the safety in the box and say we don't care
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: if you spread us out because we're not gonna respect
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: the passing game. That should change with Nick Foles. So
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest difference. As far as the rest, what
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: George Warp is gonna do and are they more of
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: a zone team or a power team which is gap blocking.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: We'll wait and see. I'm not sure yet. It's hard
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: to tell this early in camp. We'll wait and see
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: what scheme they land on and what they go more
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: heavily with. They're gonna do both. Every team does, but
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: I think the pass game is the biggest difference. Second,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: but look, de Filippo got fired in Minnesota in large
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: part because Mike has every wanted them to run the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: ball more. Though let's not forget that that was part
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: of the problem there. And um, I think they will
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: run the ball better this Ye, you're and you mentioned
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: it Tony first and foremost back him off that can run.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: You have to do that, Pete. Yeah. The second part
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: of the question, how will the defensive scheme change with
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: the Jags missing Telvin and to Seawan Gibson and new
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: faces at linebacker and safety. Thanks Basselli and Prisco for
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What do you think of that answer?
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I'll answer the second part once Tony gets in. Maybe
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I'll get in when it fair enough. I like, what
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: if you all got it in the same year, what
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: kind of party would that be? And would be a
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: good party. It's gonna be a good party regardless. Um
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: I think that. I think there, I ain't. They're more
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: athletic at safety. I think they'll be better at safety.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: I agree, but there's never a bad thing to get
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: younger and more athletic at a position. How far down
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: did to Shawn's play go though? Was he still good? Okay?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Last year? I thought to Sean play really good? But
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: then there was no church. Then that's where he did
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: not he was gone. I thought Ronnie Harrison's gonna surprise
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of people this year, because I'll be honest
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: with you, Tony, I thought he was more just strictly
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: a box safety. When he came out, he's leaner, he
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: looks more athletic. He looks like you can run better
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: than I thought he could. I think Ronnie Harrison's conund
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: have a big year well, and Jared Jared Wilson will
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: be the other safety back there. I thought to Sean
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Gibson played very well last year for the most part,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: but there were moments where did you have these mental
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: airs and like just give up big plays and at
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: crucial times. No I saw. I thought it was interesting.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: The other day. I don't know if you guys saw
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: the interview that Sexton did with Jalen Ramsey, but he
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: talked about and a j boy met boy mentioned this
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: to me, how smart Wilson and Harrison are in the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: back end. And that's pretty telling when veterans start talking
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: about young guys being as smart as they are in
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: the back end, because you know how many times, Tony
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: have you seen young sake. He's coming in bust coverages
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: all over the place. Well, we sat with Vestan Safeties
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: last year, So true change at all? No, no, no,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think at all. I don't either. I don't
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: think so. But the dom capers have any influence at all?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, I think so. No. I think you're gonna
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: see nuances and me right there, Tony, careful, I think
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: you need that you're choking on yourself over there. Okay, fine,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: fair enough. Um. I think you'll see some nuances winter
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: pet on that one. I think you'll see some nuances
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: in the third down. Maybe blitzes and schemes that they
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: do some different looks because those are always evolving, and
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Dom Kapers was one of the best in the NFL
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: for a long time as a defensive coordinator. Dial up
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: blitz isn't giving different looks um. So I think you'll
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: see some influence there, but I think it's still it's
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Todd Washer's defense. You're still going to see the basic
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: framework of what they like to do, which is that
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: single high safety, although last year they played a lot
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: more quarters, which is a split coverage to ice safety look.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: So I think coordinators are always evolving. UM. The good
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: coaches UM coach their players to their strengths. And I
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: think having extra set of eyes with Tom Capers, I
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: think is nothing but a positive thing. And you know me,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: I think they should have blitzed more. I said it
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: all last year. I think they needed a blitz more
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: and not just try and get home with the four
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: men rush. And I hope they put more blitz wrinkles
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: in because this game, I'm telling you, it's everybody's throwing
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: so many different looks at you on defense now, and
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you can't just be a strictly vanilla team, you know.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: I was in Tampa other day. Todd Bowles had so
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: many looks on defense and practice the other day. It
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: was confusing guys, and I think Jackson needs to get
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: to do more of that. I'm with Tony on this one.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: I think capers will help add that to their defense.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Thank you for the questions this week. We'll get more
• 1:48:49
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• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: You know the dangers of that dopete as you confuse yourself.
• 1:48:54
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• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: you do. You set all the time, you see it
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: all the time. Defenses don't they can. They throw a
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: lot of different looks at everybody. Earlier in the year.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: They saw the whole thing in the Super Bowl. Look
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: at all the bust of coverages that earlier last year. Right,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have early, but by you don't you want
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: to try and adjust by the time you get in December,
• 1:49:14
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys do that in the nineties, Nothing like that? No, No,
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  Speaker 1: that was that wasn't allowed back in the day. You
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  Speaker 1: It's over. Babylievable. Times have changed. Don't make don't count
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  Speaker 1: the minutes count, and make the minutes count? What other
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  Speaker 1: ones do you have? Do you remember? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't I can't stand motivational gimmicks. Why why Pete?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: If you're not motivated by your own by your own
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  Speaker 1: inner self, what the hell is wrong with you? Something's
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  Speaker 1: should want to be a great player. If you take
• 1:54:13
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• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: a great player. So you don't think coaches should say
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: anything to motivate players. I never listened to anything you think.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Do you think coaches should say nothing motivationally? I'm not
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: say what I should they should say on there, but
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: because I can't. But no, I mean, that's why you
• 1:54:36
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• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Did you pay attention to the concentration line? It was fun,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: made laugh and it didn't motivate you. Yeah, but that
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't a motivational thing. That was like a how about
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: bulletin for material? Did you read it when it was
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: on the wall? Yeah? I liked it that This didn't
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: make your play harder? Did it? I don't know, Maybe,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: mad I didn't make you? Okay, then then those games
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: that you didn't play as hard as you there were
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: short selling yourself. I always played hard, right, you did?
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: You didn't need the motivation. Well, I'm saying that Baltimore
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: made me mad. It didn't make you play harder. I don't.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: I don't sure. I guess not. Maybe what's the what's
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: the purpose of having a bulletin board material or a
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: motivational slogan or to get guys going to help him?
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  Speaker 1: It's a long season, to keep them focused, to get
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  Speaker 1: him back on track. We all, we all have times
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  Speaker 1: when we drift and you need to be reminded. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's human nature. Guess what, Pete. Not everybody's a robot,
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  Speaker 1: the humans out here, man and Pete. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: nonsensical to think that you didn't listen to it as
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  Speaker 1: a high school player. Yeah, see, no I did. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't listen. I mean, yeah, I did not listen
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  Speaker 1: to him. I'm not a good motivation short speech and
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  Speaker 1: a good like get you going, get you a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more juice, like focus there whatever, off the hinges,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll play football. How about that. That's a
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  Speaker 1: motivational speech. You said said that you like that, don't you.
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  Speaker 1: That's just put it out there. That's not really a
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  Speaker 1: motivational speech. I'm talking about hokey like I'm done. This
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  Speaker 1: is on. Move on, Move on, move on. Before we
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  Speaker 1: go around the league, first of all, First of all,
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  Speaker 1: the counting, don't count minutes, make the minutes count is
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  Speaker 1: not a motivational thing. It's basically saying, don't sit around
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  Speaker 1: there trying to get through practice. Make this practice worth something.
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  Speaker 1: That's all it's saying. All right, before we get around
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  Speaker 1: the league, got us give a shout out to former
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  Speaker 1: JAG's offensive weapon and running back Denard Robinson, hired by
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville University as an assistant coach, offensive analyst and special
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  Speaker 1: teams A kid, he is a good guy, and he'll
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  Speaker 1: be with ju the Dolphins this yar. Let's go around
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  Speaker 1: the National foot Ball League and start off with former
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  Speaker 1: Jags offensive line coach Pat Flaherty was with the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: Hired in February, fired today by the Dolphins. Fired twice
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  Speaker 1: in a year. But Pete, what happened down there? You
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  Speaker 1: don't usually see a guy get fired. Yeah. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what happened, but I you know, maybe they just
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  Speaker 1: didn't agree on how they were coaching the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen that before, where coaches and coordinators don't get
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  Speaker 1: along with what the offensive line coach is doing that
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  Speaker 1: for some reason. Those two positions knockheads a lot. Now
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  Speaker 1: they hired Googs David do google Almo, who was the
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  Speaker 1: actually Flaherty's assistant offensive line coach at the Giants they
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  Speaker 1: won Super Bowls. He was the offensive line coach at
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  Speaker 1: the Colts who and he did an amazing job last year,
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  Speaker 1: went from one of the worst offensive lines to one
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  Speaker 1: of the best. And he got fired at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year because Frank Reich wanted to bring in
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  Speaker 1: his guy from Philly. Yeah, it's just weird the way
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  Speaker 1: that works. This is a very friend hier friendly you
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  Speaker 1: know that. John Harball says the Ravens offense will be
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: unlike we've seen any any we've seen in the NFL.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: Harball said, Lamar Jackson will run more than Cam Newton,
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  Speaker 1: who had a career high hundred and thirty nine carries.
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  Speaker 1: At one point. Harball said, I'd bet the over on
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I don't think that's when. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's winning football in today's garbage. That means that
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: that means that they still don't think the kick can pass. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what that means. Tyreek Hill spokes Sunday to reporters
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: at training camp, was asked about his conversations with Clark Hunt,
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  Speaker 1: the owner of the Chiefs. Didn't really give any details,
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  Speaker 1: but he said, quote, I have to work on my
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  Speaker 1: life skills and says he's quote growing as a person
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  Speaker 1: every day. No suspension for Tyreek Hill. I'm astounded by that,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. I mean, think about this for a second,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Golden take it's four games for taking a fertility drug,
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  Speaker 1: trying to have a baby, and this guy does what
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  Speaker 1: he did, and you know there's audio out there or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: he gets nothing. Come on, Yeah, it's it's curious to me,
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  Speaker 1: very inconsistent from what we've seen from the league lately.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: But you read the release of the NFL. They found
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: no proof that what he was accused of that he did,
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  Speaker 1: and because of that, they're gonna stand by and watch
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  Speaker 1: and kind of, uh see what happens. But as of now,
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  Speaker 1: he's uh, he's ready to play. By the way, the
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  Speaker 1: Golden Tape fertility thing that's happened before. Remember Robert Mathis
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  Speaker 1: got suspended for if you trying to have a baby,
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  Speaker 1: he shouldn't get you shouldn't get suspended. Yeah, but what's
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  Speaker 1: interfertility drug. Is it testosterone? I don't know. I have
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  Speaker 1: five kids. I didn't need people will talk to you
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