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Weekly Race Recap 4/28 LIVE: Stubblefield Wins KSP · Pushin' the Cushion

• Slim Pushins: Welcome everybody to probably the worst idea that Jim has ever talked Corby and I into. This is the push of the cushion weekly recap. Jim Gardner: Live, baby. We live. Slim Pushins: live. I don't trust our friends. I have no idea what it is that they could possibly bring to the table here and that scares me. Jim Gardner: Well, hopefully everybody is dodging this weather that's been all over town, especially down year all's way. had a couple rotations up in Oklahoma that went north of my house. I haven't got much of anything except just insane mugginess up here. ⁓ but we know everybody's dodging weather out West and to the South now. So hopefully everybody's staying safe and, ⁓ yeah, high limit got canceled. So, I mean, everybody's Slim Pushins: Corby's, Corby's. Jim Gardner: Tuesday night should be wide open to watch Pushing the Cushion Live. Slim Pushins: I'm not even watching Pushin' the Cushion Live. I've got the weather on two different TVs. Corby, are you alive? Did you get out of the bathtub? Corby Scherb: Yes, sir. Yeah, I'm good. No, I never got the bathtub. You was in the bathtub. Slim Pushins: You was in the bathtub. Jim Gardner: Thank you. Corby Scherb: There's actually still going on. know I just text Claude. ⁓ He's he's it's headed right for him. Lucas Boxwell lives out that way Joshua area. So yeah, storms. It is the season in Texas. Jim Gardner: We're gonna check on the warheads. Corby Scherb: Yep. A lot of people still down there. They said it was supposed to be bad for us up here in the north and the wind barely even blew. We got quite a bit of rain, but that was about it. Slim Pushins: D-Brick, we're nobody's heroes. I can tell you that right now. Corby Scherb: Yeah, Katedale had a good showing. Big car count, actually a couple of guys that aren't from around here. I don't know if they're showing up for the 5K or seeing how they hold candles to some of these local guys for the speed week that's coming up too. Jim Gardner: It was a good show. I went down there. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Slim Pushins: Again, another single showing of pushing the cushion members. Jim? Jim Gardner: That's right. The one who gives a rip. Um, yeah, I took, uh, Justin Bates down there. I took Justin down there and we struggled, uh, new car, new shocks, new motor. Um, and just missed it, missed it both ways a little on top of the racetrack. And then I got rowdy for the B main, just gave him something undrivable. And, uh, I had a good view for the, very entertaining main event though, sitting in the 12th row with the cores light in my hand. Slim Pushins: Okay. Alright. Corby Scherb: Right? Jim Gardner: ⁓ Corby Scherb: Kineadill's tough, Kineadill's really tough. Slim Pushins: Well, I forgot to you were there with Bates. Jim Gardner: Yeah, ⁓ yeah, there's course lights in the trailer always so he stopped and bought a new cooler just to make sure that we had some because I we had my truck and trailer and it was kind of a mess but Corby Scherb: ⁓ for sure. Slim Pushins: Beer. Corby Scherb: I believe it. Slim Pushins: Well, I've known Bates long enough. He didn't stop out of the goodness of his heart. My guess, my money would be on that he forgot a cooler and had to purchase one. Jim Gardner: You Well, you decided not to show up and we were banking on you having a four wheeler. I didn't pack a four wheeler in my truck or my trailer just to go easy on my truck. So I had to call Justin, tell him to get his out of his shop. He's got my ramps for his truck. His truck was in the shop. So he had to go buy, go to Cabela's and buy a ramps to put the four wheeler in the back of his work truck. And then he forgot something else. And then he had to buy a cooler. Slim Pushins: Well... Corby Scherb: Good job, Kerbo. Jim Gardner: It was a mess. I didn't have impacts. I had to borrow a shock pressure gauge from Zimmerman. I had to borrow an impact from Jeb. I just walked in the trailer and grab one. Thanks Jeb. And, ⁓ we just were, we were not firing on all cylinders Saturday night and it showed, but, ⁓ anyway, it was a good main event. had, ⁓ I had a front row seat for it. So, ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yeah, it'll switch up there in the front. know, Kennedy was kind of tough to really make some big moves towards the front. I'll say it on live. I don't care. I want to know the last person who's won deeper than starting sixth. I'll feed you there. Jim Gardner: Well, that's, that's more of a field depth issue than anything else. mean, the track was wide and racy, ⁓ but you have, you know, 35 cars there. Probably we could walk through the pits and pick out 12 that can win, you know, and any combination of those six or 12. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: being upfront is going to be ⁓ tough to get through everybody, you know, without anything major happening. It's a depth of the field characteristic. It's not a ⁓ slight to the racetrack at all. It was racy as hell again. Corby Scherb: I agree, that's... No. Yeah, no, that's the problem is, I mean, you have anyone start towards the front, they're gonna be super tough. I mean, I even remember whenever I first started racing sprint cars, it was the same and they had the old IMCA 12 car invert and it was tough. It was really tough. Slim Pushins: Gross. Jim Gardner: Yeah. So their format's good that, you know, they're running passing points, which is, know, it's about as fair of a format as you can get. There's, there's holes with every format. ⁓ I got no problem with, with them taking 12 and then two B's taken four were very reasonable. were buried in it and I took a big swing and, and, you know, ⁓ but if you feel like you you control your own destiny a little bit better. Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: ⁓ with that format, you know, ⁓ some of the other times we've run, ⁓ some other places where it's like they redraw 12 and there's 17 cars there. You know, like, what are we doing? Why even run the heat races? ⁓ so. Corby Scherb: Right. Right. But you know, it's like you're saying and Kennedy was tough and I said this last week, you you can't go to the racetrack and try to test. It's really difficult. mean, I'm going to call him out. mean, my boy, Bolden didn't make it out of the beat. You know, it's tough there. I don't care what anyone says and anyone who's coming for that 5K to win here in a couple weeks is you gotta be on your game. if I guess it was the melt in the first two years, right? And then it's so it's been it's been won by locals. And I think it'll be really, really tough for a non local. I'm gonna call everyone out. I think it's gonna be tough for a non local to win that race. Slim Pushins: Did you just toot your own horn? Corby Scherb: No, I'm not tooting my own horn. I'm talking about the locals around here, just the competition that's here in the state of Texas and just Kennedale in general. I y'all can't lie. You can't sleep on Marcus Thomas. You can't sleep on Jeb. You can't call me Stubblefield. Chad Wilson, there is way too many drivers around here that are way too fast at Kennedale to ever question it. Jim Gardner: Hahaha! The inaugural. Slim Pushins: Wilson? Jim Gardner: Did we lose Corby or is that just me? Slim Pushins: No, he froze mid-sentence. Jim Gardner: Okay. Well, you'll have that. You'll have that in big time live media, but ⁓ yet ⁓ there he's back. The internet Decatur turned back on. Yeah. Slim Pushins: I don't know if... I don't... ⁓ Are you back? Corby Scherb: I'm back, I'm good. I'm good. Slim Pushins: Wilson's always Wilson's always a threat at Kennedale ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yeah, for sure. ⁓ Yeah, call me stuff. Jeb, yeah, Ricketts, Carson, Ryder, the list, we could honestly, all the esthetists, every single one of them, including Rutherford, we could go on and on and on about guys who can show up. And even Cody Price, whenever they show up, that's their goal, is to win that race. Jim Gardner: He, ⁓ Jeb Ricketts. Yeah. Anyway. Our guide, our. It's deep. Yeah. ⁓ I was sitting in the stands drinking a Coors light with Justin watching Zimmerman who's a good buddy of ours. And Zimmerman is a bad ass and gets it on, you know, getting in through the B and starting in the back and thinking he's going to make a huge charge. And, know, he, think he went plus seven. had a good night, you know, but that just shows the depth that's there. ⁓ you know, cause I mean, there was a time when, you know, Zimmerman to hardly ever lose a non-wing race in this town. So, ⁓ you know, it's good, but. Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah. Right. Jim Gardner: ⁓ all of our listeners probably should have been looking out for Cubby Colby stubble field. told everybody two or three weeks ago, like he hasn't won, but he's probably the best guy in the area. And, he went out and won. ⁓ I thought Jeb was going to get kind of snooker him on in lap traffic there. ⁓ he got held up a little bit and then, ⁓ the caution came out and then Jeb got beat on a restart and, ⁓ Braxton. Let's say his last name, right? Weger. Slim Pushins: Jeb made a charge at it. Weiger. Corby Scherb: Weiger. Weiger. Yeah. Jim Gardner: was hauling ass again. He's, ⁓ he's going to be tough here in two weeks there to Weston Gorham was fourth and DJ Estes, another top five. was plus five to finish fifth, ⁓ both Ricketts and Charlie Harmon were plus nine. ⁓ and Harmon was like plus 11, five laps into the race. I looked down at one point, think during one of the first yellows and I Corby Scherb: Yeah. Yep. I know, I know. Jim Gardner: showed Justin, I was like, Harmon's plus, plus 11 or something like that. And then I think he faded towards the end, but a great race at Kennedale, great track prep, dodge the weather. ⁓ Slim Pushins: Just barely, Like later that night, I ended up... Jim Gardner: Yeah, it got rowdy on the way home. Yeah. But, Slim Pushins: I ended up ⁓ when Big O got rained out, I ended up at the casino and I drove home and it was a lightning show like I have not seen in a long time. Jim Gardner: Excuse me. Corby Scherb: Who'd you go to the casino with? Like your new golf buddies? Slim Pushins: Hahaha No, I didn't. I don't have golf buddies. I was invited by the LaPlante family. ⁓ Blake Shelton was in concert up there, so I went up there. I got up there like four hours before that crew showed up. I didn't know this, but you can be cut off at the casino. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Hmm. Slim Pushins: I was just every time I saw a waitress I was just ordering a drink and then Evidently their policy is that you can only order four in an hour so I had to I had to skip I had to skip one Like one revolution until she came back around. Yeah Corby Scherb: That's pretty impressive anyways. Jim Gardner: one round. Did you make any money? Slim Pushins: Uh, I didn't. Well, it depends. mean, there were $10 drinks and I spent or lost. There were $10 drinks. I drank for four hours and then went to a concert and I was out a hundred bucks. So if I, I either lost a hundred bucks gambling and drank for free or I broke even at gambling and paid a hundred dollars to drink. So it depends on technicality, I guess. Corby Scherb: This is a technicality. Jim Gardner: All right. I got you. Slim Pushins: Debrick said he donated a AAA battery to Bates. That's two races in a row. Didn't he have to borrow a AAA battery ⁓ at TMS? Corby Scherb: What's? Jim Gardner: That's on, that's on brand. ⁓ probably, but yeah, it's on brand. I, he called me on the way he is, Hey, make sure you got your driving equipment. And I was like, man, I ain't firing you out of your own car first night. He goes, no, I can't find tear offs. I might have to wear your helmet. And I got that Bengals helmet and he's a big Browns guy. And I was like, I will hide, hide your tear off. So you have to wear my helmet and then maybe he raced without them. don't know. But, ⁓ anyway. Corby Scherb: But... Slim Pushins: That would be par for the course too. Jim Gardner: Anyway, what else happened? So what do we got this weekend? ⁓ What's up this weekend? So Waco's Friday. Waco's got a show. The weather sucks in the area all week. It was nasty today. It's going to linger for the next couple of days. I hope by the weekend, it's going to clear back out. High limits in town Thursday and Saturday. ⁓ Waco Friday and I think RPM's on Corby Scherb: Knoxville, you Yeah. Right? Jim Gardner: tap for Saturday too. ⁓ hopefully this weather clears out and they are, ⁓ they're able to get a show in and out there. Slim Pushins: RPM schedule for this weekend? Corby Scherb: Yes. Be cool. I'm ready to see the guys, who's going show up and support RPM. I it's always been a really cool track, super unique shape, and ⁓ usually it's Sprint car friendly with lot of passing. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: It's not looking great. I mean, are we allowed to say it? Jim Gardner: Let's not speak it into existence. We'll just acknowledge it. But, ⁓ so that's that, power I four tens. Yeah. It's just, if they get hammered all week, you know, you just, don't know. I'm hoping for good things for Kevin and the crew down there. Power I four tens ran big O and Ennis on Friday night. Howard Moore was the winner. Our guy, our guest, ⁓ tomorrow, Carson Bolden was 17th out of 31 cars down there. So, ⁓ Corby Scherb: No, Kerbo, you gotta be positive right now. Slim Pushins: Saturday looks good though. Corby Scherb: Yeah. Jim Gardner: Pretty solid run. talked to his dad briefly. They said they found some stuff, figured some stuff out there. ⁓ The outlaws were at Knoxville, had huge fields. Brad Sweet and David Gravel were the winners. I didn't see much that was noteworthy going on. You had some anecdote about Kerry Madsen, Corby. Corby Scherb: Well, you we was talking about Kennedale and how tough it is. Like I said, I want to know the last person who's won deeper than sixth. know, Cary Madsen was fast qualifier Friday night, made it to the dash, and then he didn't get out of a C feature on Saturday. Same with Donnie Schatz, struggled Saturday night. That's sprint car racing too, and that goes back to whether it's pill drill or qualifying. It's, it is, it is tough. It is, it is very tough. Jim Gardner: tough, you better be on top of it. Corby Scherb: You start eighth in a heat race at Kennedale, you gotta be really aggressive on the first lap. Because it's just, it's the same at Knoxville or Kokomo where they was at. I know our boy Kyle Jones went for a pretty decent ride there, him and T-Mez. But it doesn't matter where you're at, it's so important on start where you start your heat race up. It ⁓ can be a very relaxing day because you start the front row of your heat race or it can be a very long night if you get swallowed first lap of your heat race. Jim Gardner: They're ⁓ high. Slim Pushins: You knew that was coming. You knew that was coming. I told you we don't trust any of our friends. Corby Scherb: rider. Jim Gardner: High limits at, is Ryder running the high limit race? Corby Scherb: Yes. Slim Pushins: Scheduled to, Jim Gardner: So you guys are gonna go out there. Slim Pushins: Well, I'm gonna go out there. know, Corby's always a crap shoot. Jim Gardner: Yeah, I will. I will. I'm headed to Miami, Florida for Formula One this weekend. Corby Scherb: Thursday night will be tough. Saturday night is the plan. Slim Pushins: Speaking of tooting your own horn. Jim Gardner: Yeah, so I will not be out there. ⁓ So. Slim Pushins: You say that like you're not looking forward to it. Jim Gardner: I am going with my sister. Um, be a good time. I imagine. So, um, I was kind of hoping to work on my race car a little bit this weekend, but I'll find some time, but, Corby Scherb: Absolute freaks. Can we talk about Formula One? Can we talk about it still open-will? Like, absolute freaks. Jim Gardner: I, so I have not watched anything all year because it's on Apple TV plus limited or something. The one streaming option that, you know, my, my family doesn't have. So I haven't been really following it up. ⁓ that we, touched on the midgets, Justin Grant and Jacob Denny continues to haul ass in the midgets. ⁓ midgets at Kokomo are awesome. just put five inches of stagger on it and let it eat up on the fence. ⁓ the coolest thing about most of, ⁓ Indiana midget racing is they'll run non-wing four tens as the support class. And it's like the best bang for your buck, ⁓ racing and you can go get like Indiana midget week is just wild mostly because of the local sprint cars that are also in action all week too. ⁓ definitely catch those as much as we can, but, ⁓ That's what we got. Make sure everybody. Slim Pushins: We do we want to speak in a Jacob Denny. We have semi talked to Jacob Denny's crew chief who is semi interested about being a guest, which would be pretty cool coming up to midway midget week. Jim Gardner: ⁓ yeah, we just got to find the time. I'd love to get Kyle Jones on here. You know, we were thinking about having Kyle on this week and then he turned it over Sunday night. We're like, yeah, maybe a little something. Slim Pushins: We're gonna wait for a week. Our guest this week, we're not working for those that know, maybe we mentioned it. Normally we record the podcast on a Tuesday night. Our guest ⁓ this week ⁓ had prior obligations ⁓ tonight. ⁓ So we attempted last night. He had driver's ed, which is really interesting. We'll talk to him about that, but what about, what about. Jim Gardner: Ha ha ha ha ha. Yep, Carson Bolton's on tomorrow. You might want to say his name. Slim Pushins: Well, I was going to keep it a surprise, you know, but there we are. ⁓ how about Casey Kane taking over for a Macri? Jim Gardner: a little interesting because I think the outlaws are headed through PA. So he's running outlaws. He owns a high limit car and all that kind of stuff. So it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere. ⁓ and Connor Morrell got fired today from Bill Rose's car. ⁓ yeah, so they they got some different, it's already silly season. We're not even to May yet, you know, ⁓ lots of stuff going on, but, Corby Scherb: I didn't know that. Right? Slim Pushins: I would have to assume that with the Casey Cain thing, there's some relationship there of between him and McCree's team. Jim Gardner: I think, I think just the outlaws are in town and you have an outlaw caliber driver to get you some laps in and keep the team sharp and work. You know, we talked about, know, with Justin taking a brand new car, new shocks and new motor, you know, and just not having a good idea of where it needs to be. Um, you know, when Anthony gets back, they want to have their notebook just like they would have it. And they need somebody that will give. good feedback and they need to just they have they need reps just like driver needs laps you know the crew guys the setup guys need to hone their craft ⁓ and they can't just be idle so yeah we'll see how that goes Slim Pushins: Corby, you wanna answer that question? Why does it sound like Corby's in the bathroom? Corby Scherb: Yes, Why? ⁓ I don't know. It's probably because my house was built in 1947. Jim Gardner: Hahaha! I do have to go come get parts, Kevin. I know. I just don't want to drive up there in the middle of tornado alley. Yeah, it is where the closest taco casa is, though. Slim Pushins: All the way up there. Corby Scherb: That's a win-win. Jim Gardner: Yeah, exactly. If I wear this hat, I get special treatment. Slim Pushins: They do look at you funny, I can tell you that. Jim Gardner: I had that jacket on as I rolled through one in the fall and they all looked at me like I was some undercover boss plant. It was awesome. Anyway, let's wrap this up. Tune in. Well, I mean, what else do we want to talk about? This is just, yeah. Slim Pushins: Like a secret shopper. Yeah, that dude looked too funny. ⁓ is that it? Corby Scherb: You got more recapping? Slim Pushins: I didn't go to a race this weekend. My recap's recapped out. Jim Gardner: But yeah. Slim Pushins: I ⁓ Corey, why weren't you at a race this weekend? Corby Scherb: Brooklyn had two volleyball games. And it was cold. Slim Pushins: Nice. There wasn't anything cold about it. Corby Scherb: It was pretty chilly. Supposed to be cold again this weekend too. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be 20 degrees colder tomorrow than it was today. anyway. Slim Pushins: No, it's not. Corby Scherb: Yes it is. That's cold. Today was glorious. Slim Pushins: I don't need your help, Jim. Jim Gardner: except for the know cat fives that rolled through so yeah yeah I hope everybody's safe Warhurst said that their power's out but they're good so Corby Scherb: Right? Slim Pushins: They're still rolling through. There's a... There's something. There it is. What golf course is Corby playing at this weekend with his golf friends. Corby Scherb: I try not to play too much golf when I got Brooklyn. I got Brooklyn this weekend. She says she wants to go watch a rider. No, she says she wants to go watch rider race. Jim Gardner: Gainesville. There you go. All right. Both nights. Rocket canceled Friday. The Rocket had an unsanctioned 410 show Friday night, but they canceled that. Probably didn't get enough commitments. Corby Scherb: I don't know, Thursday night's tough. Slim Pushins: I mean, it's not a bad idea taking a stab at it on nights. know, if they're racing Thursday night, then they're racing. Corby Scherb: Jeff says we gotta start over. Jim Gardner: No, it'll record, Jeb. You're fine. So. Corby Scherb: you Slim Pushins: Hey, Corby, had a conspiracy question that you wanted to ask Jim now that we're here and Jeb's on. Corby Scherb: Yeah, and Jebs on too, so this is a good one. You know, why do we see... The sun, when the sun is out, why do we see more often we can see the moon than vice versa? When the sun is out, then we can still see the moon. Jim Gardner: Are you sure? Corby Scherb: Here we go. Jim Gardner: The Earth's turning. The Earth is translating around the sun, right? But the Earth is also spinning. Day is when we see the sun, when we're on that side. Night is on the opposite side, right? The moon is also doing the same thing. So it's in a different cadence, right? And so I forget which way the moon goes by Corby Scherb: Okay. Slim Pushins: This is going to be awesome. Corby Scherb: Correct. Right. The water's staying still. Right. Gotcha. Jim Gardner: I believe it's opposite ⁓ direction that the earth spins. That's why we see the moon in shorter intervals and it's also spins at a different speed. So I'm sure if you chat GPT it, you would get there's three things all spinning or there's two things spinning and rotating and translating at the same time. Corby Scherb: So all this stuff... Slim Pushins: You didn't get any of that did you, Corey? Corby Scherb: Gotcha. Okay, so then if all that's happening and we can coordinate all that, there's 15,000 satellites up there. We didn't catch one picture, we didn't catch not one picture of a spaceship going from here to the moon and back. Riddle me that one. Jim Gardner: We got to wrap this up. Slim Pushins: We got all the time in the world. Jim Gardner: Yeah, they're also spinning and You got too much time on your hands. This not racing thing. You've got way too much time on your hands. Slim Pushins: It's not a bad question. Mark asked about Rutherford's heat race. I can only assume, cause I wasn't there. I'm assuming he's talking about Maddie Tugman. She had a hell of a run in her heat race. I saw just a couple of clips. ⁓ Corby Scherb: 15,000. Jim Gardner: as she was hauling ass the first couple of laps of the main event, two pound on the top. And then I think that she turned over or spin out. I think she was one of the yellows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was good. Corby Scherb: ⁓ she spun out. Yeah. We'll blame Mark for that. She's young. We'll blame Mark for the spin outs. Slim Pushins: in the feature. Yeah, she's not afraid to gas it. There's a lot of talent there too. I'd like to see her race more, but obviously as expensive as things are and as limited time that people have. Hey, we got somebody on from Ohio. Ryan, we appreciate it. Jim? Is that one of your old pals? Corby Scherb: No, she's a gasser for sure. Jim Gardner: ⁓ I don't think so, but it should be. What is he? I wonder if I just hit, I hit the comment and it popped up. Ryan. We appreciate it, man. Go Bengals. Appreciate everybody, ⁓ watching, in, putting up with their nonsense. It's a work in progress. Slim Pushins: What did you, what did, what just happened? How did that go big on my screen? Corby Scherb: No idea. Landon, what up? Jim Gardner: ⁓ This live thing is an experiment mostly for what we're going to do for Speed Week. ⁓ Because this is... Slim Pushins: It's a work in progress. Corby Scherb: We're gonna keep a tally too on how many hair flips I can get during the live from Jim. That's gonna be a goal. Slim Pushins: ⁓ Jim Gardner: Okay, all right, yeah, I'll keep it nice and long for you. Slim Pushins: It's a work in progress for Jim, Justin and I. Justin and mean Justin. Corby and I, think we've got it dialed in. We've got it figured out. Corby Scherb: There's just, there's Bates. Jim Gardner: You know, so this going live ⁓ is actually trying to help me not have to edit and post and ⁓ get it up because it's ⁓ going to be a time consuming week there running Speed Week. So. No, I don't. I don't at all. Go for it. Slim Pushins: Yeah He's about to lose his shit. Corby Scherb: Do want another tricky question? Or are we going to let it go? What if it's about a car? Slim Pushins: ⁓ there, sweet spot. Corby Scherb: What really changes from the fuel load? Whenever they have an open red, whenever they go put fuel in, is it mainly to survive the race or is it based upon where they're at in their setup? Jim Gardner: It could be a mixture of both. They throw an open red because of the number of laps. If you count the laps being pushed off in the yellows that guys are going to run out, especially, you know, the four tens in particular. ⁓ You can regulate, you know, your ride height with fuel. Fuel weighs 6.7 pounds per gallon. So your rear ride height does change. ⁓ And that'll change your ladder and your roll center and a bunch of Slim Pushins: I wouldn't. Jim Gardner: Other stuff too. So when they throw an open red with five to go, you're not just going to put 25 gallons of fuel in it. You know, unless, unless it's super slick and you're trying to get more rear percentage or something like that. Um, it's they it's thrown so that the guys can make it to the end of the race. Um, Corby Scherb: Right. My big question there on that was NASCAR had a big tangle of ⁓ saving fuel and then they finally put their foot on the floor and it changed things. Do Sprint Car guys ever have to worry about that stuff or is it on the floor no matter what? Jim Gardner: Well, so I mean NASCAR's got thousands, you know, hundreds of engineers making more money than the three of us combined. Um, analyzing weight at the same point. Now their cars weigh 3,600 pounds, ours weigh 1,500, right? And so the fuel load, plays a much bigger percentage in a sprint car than it does a stock car, but they still have to account for it. Um, Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: but mostly they're playing the fuel game for time on pit road and the NASCAR stuff. That's more of a strategic thing more than a car balance thing. Our fuel cells are also behind the rear axle, not on top. So it's a bigger lever arm where it affects the chassis a little bit more. ⁓ But no, theirs is purely a race strategy ⁓ deal. Corby Scherb: Well, aye. You know it because it all falls back into you know, I guess there was someone else light at Kennedy I don't want to say any names, but some people play with fuel just on the weight, too ⁓ That's that's my big question to you is does it really change? The dynamic setup that you have by just filling it all the way up knowing that you're gonna have a lot of cautions tonight Jim Gardner: ⁓ yeah. Mm. No, so, ⁓ I've always I got DQ back in Indiana for being four pounds light. ⁓ Corby Scherb: You know what mean? Slim Pushins: Why don't you mute your phone, Mr. DQ? Jim Gardner: And, and, you know, that was a hard, ⁓ lesson for me to learn to always go to the racetrack empty, ⁓ making weight, ⁓ you know, where we're putting lead in it. And, and if we run out, you know, we're going to run out of fuel before we're going to be light at the scales. ⁓ everybody's looking for an edge, you know, if you're, if, if you're trying to leave three gallons of fuel in it, ⁓ Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: To make weight, you get burned, if that makes you feel like you are gonna be a tenth of a second faster, you're gonna do it just like you put lightweight stuff on the car somewhere else. Run carbon body, run tie bolts, ⁓ run whatever. ⁓ And then the track scales could be different than the scales at home. There's a lot of things going on there. ⁓ But yeah, being light at the scales is just kind of a kick in the teeth. And I don't think there's that much meat on the bone, you know. ⁓ Corby Scherb: I think from the math that I grew up with racing motorcycles, was for every seven pounds is one horsepower. And if you really broke it down, you know, I think that the majority of scales, if you don't plan to 10 to 15 pounds of a fluctuation, you got bigger problems anyways. 50. Yeah. Jim Gardner: I mean, you could be you could pack mud up on the wings and on the suspension. I mean, you could pack a lot of weight ⁓ in different places. There's a lot of things that could that could go wrong if the track takes rubber and you burn the rears off. You know, you're going to lose a couple pounds of rubber on that. mean, there's there's a lot of moving parts there. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Mm-hmm. Right. Slim Pushins: You think there's a couple of pounds of rubber in which he would burn off? I mean I would have thought, I would have thought, I don't know, half pound maybe. Really? Corby Scherb: No. You gotta think about it, if your lugs are that tall and they're that tall... Jim Gardner: No, it's definitely gotta be more than that. Slim Pushins: Yeah. Corby Scherb: There's a lot of tire movement. Slim Pushins: Jeb said he's got more conspiracy theories, Jim. How does that make you feel? We're going to have Jeb back on, 100%. Corby Scherb: I can't wait. I can't wait. Jim Gardner: Yeah, Jeff's got more time to research it now that he's not working nights. Slim Pushins: Ha! ⁓ Are you... He... Corby Scherb: No, that was my tech tip. I wanted to talk to you about fuel and weight and all that stuff. Some people believe in it. Some people believe that if they can run it down to empty and it's better. ⁓ I didn't really like mine getting much under the shelf. Jim Gardner: Wow. ⁓ I was at Allard's Dino Friday, ⁓ and Slim Pushins: Stossas has 20 pounds on tires. Corby Scherb: There we go, Jim Gardner: I believe it. ⁓ Lee, the tuner at Allard is adamant about not running the fuel below the shelf. But now he's a motor guy, right? And essentially his argument, I mean, he must told me it five times while I was there. Don't run it below the shelf ever. And I was like, okay, well that's, I don't know how reasonable that actually is. ⁓ Corby Scherb: Yup. Mm-hmm. Jim Gardner: because the fuel pumps, especially like a smaller fuel pump, you if you're running a 500 fuel pump and a 305, um, you're flowing so much fuel that it's probably not a problem. But if you're running like a small fuel pump, a 350 or 400 or something like that, he said that the pressure in the tank is contributing more to the, you know, the fuel pump is pumping. It's not sucking out of the tank. And the change in the pressure and the height of the fuel in the tank could alter how much fuel the motor is getting in. And you could get lean if you let the fuel drop too far. ⁓ He's a motor guy. He's going to be 100 % concerned about the motor. know, the racers have to think about the bigger picture. You know, do we really want to carry 40 more pounds of weight? You know, or can we just start the motor a little fatter and then have it lean out as we get in? Corby Scherb: Right. Jim Gardner: if that's a change, but a lot of things to consider. Corby Scherb: Or like Jim said, you know, could just hit the gym every week and get shape and stay ready. Then you ain't got to get like that. Jim Gardner: That's right. So ⁓ anyway, I'm gonna go work out now, I guess. Slim Pushins: Did you? Corby Scherb: There we go. Slim Pushins: Are you are we are we going to mention the the infamous power rankings or are we not ready to do that? I don't mean to put you on the spot. Jim Gardner: ⁓ Well, was the plan was to Slim Pushins: Jeb brought it up because... Corby Scherb: This went way longer than what we was expecting to. Jim Gardner: Yeah. Slim Pushins: He's so mad. Jim's pissed. Jim Gardner: I mean, I've got them calculated up. we'll just talk about it briefly. was, have been, I spent probably two hours Sunday night playing with the metric, um, playing with the algorithm just because we still had like Kyle Jones and five field who had run one race. No, have, uh, um, Lance Christie's run six races, like of the 65 guys I'm tracking or guys and gals. Uh, Like 40 of them have run four races. so kind of participation is starting to take over in the metric a little bit. So I had to fiddle with the, the weights and the numbers and stuff like that. But, ⁓ we'll just go over it briefly. Number one at the top of the board, Colby Stubblefield, ⁓ not shocking. And, ⁓ he's, he's ahead by a lot and he's only run three races and the metric kind of penalizes him for only running three races instead of four. Corby Scherb: you Jim Gardner: So like his score is only counted at 80 percent, 87 percent of the weight of everybody else's and he's still number one. Behind him, DJ Estes, who is five for five with top fives. He's off to a better start than me and Justin. ⁓ Then third is Ricketts, Claude Estes, Landon Valenzuela. Who else is up here? Rutherford, Jeb, Lance Christie, Braxton Weiger. Slim Pushins: you Corby Scherb: Weaker. Slim Pushins: Weeger, already, we already went. Jim Gardner: Weger, Weger, Weger, Weger. Sorry. I'm going to go buy his t-shirt now because I've embarrassed and gives a butcher's name so much. Corby Scherb: And... Slim Pushins: Jeb's got some advice. Corby Scherb: Well first off I got a comment on this I believe that was also but DJ that's because that car make that motor makes so much horsepower Slim Pushins: So much horsepower. Corby Scherb: And then Jeb wants to know everyone's worst race. Well, I haven't even raced yet this year, Jeb, so that's real bad. Jim Gardner: Yeah. ⁓ Slim Pushins: No, Jeb said he wants he wants Jim, he wants in the calculations to drop your worst race, your worst finish. Jim Gardner: ⁓ well, I've I've I'm still just going down like the Titanic. I spilled another four spots down to fifty first. Corby Scherb: We could. Jim Gardner: So that's where we're at, but. Slim Pushins: Just so people know that we're not like... You sandbaggin' son of a bitch, you. Jim Gardner: for both 51 car fans out there, know, wondering where I'm at. Corby Scherb: Dad, the only way we can drop that- The only way we're dropping the worst score, Jeb, is if you're okay that we publicly say what and why that was your worst. Jim Gardner: So, so eventually Jeb, the drops, the, it'll kind of neutralize the drop scores. Everybody's really got a small sample size right now, but essentially like if you've run four to six races, it's full points. If you've run three, it kind of dings you and mostly it dings you because I'm trying to, ⁓ not have one off like Justin Fifield winning the one race he's been in. is great, but it kind of really skews the numbers. So anyway, it's, it's, it's classified, ⁓ how we're doing it. But, I got some good feedback from, from everybody on this. lot of people have been busting my balls. Ramy, ⁓ Kevin Ramy was like, what you, you guys are going to make me take this real serious. And, and, ⁓ you know, some guys are like, Hey, where am I? And I'm, I'm like, you're in between 11th and 65th. Just relax. ⁓ Corby Scherb: I like that plan, Patrick. Slim Pushins: I do too. Jim Gardner: The problem with, you know, the scores are a bell curve. So, you know, the top five or top 10 are really separated themselves, right? Colby Subilfield score is incredible. When you get to 11th to 30th or 11th to 40th, like two spots in a feature might jump you 30 spots in the power rankings because of the limited sample sizes and then how muddy those waters are. like 40 guys so it really doesn't do anybody justice be like yeah you're 18th right now because literally if you finish two spots worse in the main event you could be 40 second because it's competitive Slim Pushins: So Jeb's point is he wants you to physically drop it. He doesn't want it to drop mathematically, because mathematically it's still going to count. Jim Gardner: No. Run better, Jeb. put a cam spud in your engine that's not skewed out. Corby Scherb: or like Patrick said, stop trying new stuff. Alright, I think we can wrap it up now. Jim Gardner: So it's more to pick apart or drop a race ⁓ is not really going to help it out. Yeah. Yeah. have. ⁓ Slim Pushins: No, want you to... Corby's getting antsy. Corby Scherb: I can't ruin my dinner time two nights in a row. Slim Pushins: Well, it's also a lot of work for Jim to go back and you'd have to research all those, wouldn't you? Or do you have? Jim Gardner: Yeah, I'm not. Let me just clarify. I'm not doing it. Your scores are your scores. I'm not posting the spreadsheet, but your scores are your scores. Corby Scherb: He went above and beyond the Excel spreadsheet. This is on Excel. Jim Gardner: It's on Google Sheets. I'm cloud-based. That way, I can't lose it and have my computer crash. So anyway. Slim Pushins: Let's go. You're the most technologically savvy person that I know. Jim Gardner: Well, I wish I was better at making race cars go around the racetrack and was less savvy at this. So anyway, I'm. Corby Scherb: Here we go. You took a bunch of idiots from Decatur, Texas and made us fast. Slim Pushins: Well, look what you did to Corby. Jim Gardner: I'm going to go get some tips from Haas F1 this weekend, see if I can't put it on the old number 51 for Kennedale in two weeks. A diffuser DRS, something real super illegal. Slim Pushins: Daniel said he followed Wilson into the tire. That's not what I was telling people, DJ. I was telling people that water sloshed out all over the place and you got slick on that next lap. We can go with that. Jim Gardner: We'll see. Yep. Yeah. Don't apologize. Don't make excuses to us. Tell Ramey. Corby Scherb: You're right. His hand bump-started me before. Slim Pushins: Yeah, Remy got the raw end of that water slosh. Jim Gardner: Yeah, yeah, all right, we gotta get out of here I got work to do on the car Slim Pushins: All right, everybody, thanks for participating. We really appreciate y'all joining us. ⁓ We'll record tomorrow night, release. Corby Scherb: Yep. Jim Gardner: I think this works. Yeah. Yeah. So, ⁓ probably have boldens out. Friday. Let's be honest, probably Friday, maybe Thursday. See how much editing I have to do. See how much. Yeah. So, yeah. So anyway, this, think this works. So, ⁓ we appreciate everybody chatting in. I hope everybody stays safe with the weather. fun racing this weekend. Corby Scherb: We'll see. We'll see how bad Kerbo is. How bad Kerbo is. Slim Pushins: Saturday. How what? Alright everybody, thanks for joining us.