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TJ for Gerrit Cole, MLB forcing Rays sale? M’s shut down Kirby, Mets lose Alvarez, Soto speaks · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: To me, this shows he wants to win.
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  Speaker 2: Does he want the money, absolutely absolutely, But he said
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  Speaker 2: he would have accepted that had essentially had the future
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  Speaker 2: looked bright.
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  Speaker 3: About All right, here we go. Let's talk about some
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  Speaker 3: actually pretty devastating news potentially for the runner up last year.
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  Speaker 3: The New York Yankees just keep taking hits left and right.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, yeah, we got an extended crew
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  Speaker 3: today here. So it's Krats and me from Parts unknown.
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  Speaker 3: It'slana and AJ from Dodgers camp. Were jealous, but let's
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  Speaker 3: do this. Crats, you lead off while AJ gets settled there.
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  Speaker 3: Garrett Cole might be the season. You're good, You're good.
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  Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery is what Jim Bowden reported on that
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  Speaker 3: was the first wreck. Sounds like he's getting a second opinion,
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  Speaker 3: but it does not sound good. And everyone's been worried
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  Speaker 3: about his elbows since last spring training.
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  Speaker 2: I read the Will Carroll put out a little article
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  Speaker 2: talking about what he originally went down, and we're looking
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  Speaker 2: at Jim Bowden's tweet here. According to sore Scare, Cole
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  Speaker 2: has been recommended to have Tommy John surgery, but they
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  Speaker 2: would now wait for a second opinion to confirm the diagnosis.
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  Speaker 2: Last year when he went down in spring training, it
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  Speaker 2: was a nerve issue and it sounded like it was
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  Speaker 2: very similar. But this time the initial opinion, first opinion
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  Speaker 2: came back and said, now there's some type of damage
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  Speaker 2: to the UCL. We don't know what that is. When
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  Speaker 2: you recommended Tommy John surgery, it is the last thing
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  Speaker 2: that you want to hear if you're a Yankees fan,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a player. But last year he also I
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  Speaker 2: think he went to Neil Eltrage, and that's who I
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  Speaker 2: think he's going to again.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously speculation is just that speculation. But this
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  Speaker 2: would be This would be devastating for a Yankees team.
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  Speaker 2: Any team that loses lou this is their ace.
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  Speaker 4: This is bad. This is bad. You never want to
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  Speaker 4: hear that. We've had this conversation here. The only guy
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  Speaker 4: I've ever heard that has been recommended TJ is Tanaka
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  Speaker 4: and he didn't do it, and he pitched for years
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  Speaker 4: after that. Almost every guy, even though when they try
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  Speaker 4: to rehab, and for me looking at it from the outside, again,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know anything. I'm not a doctor, but just
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  Speaker 4: get it done because it's good. What are you gonna
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  Speaker 4: waste three months and then you lose more time on.
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  Speaker 5: The back end of a season.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is even further than that if you
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  Speaker 6: take it, if you look at the fact, guys that
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  Speaker 6: Luis heels already out, you know, and then you lose
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  Speaker 6: Garrett Cole potentially for the season, then maybe next you know,
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  Speaker 6: part of the next season as well, depending upon when
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  Speaker 6: he decides to do the Tommy John surgery. We're talking
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  Speaker 6: about this earlier, joking that the Dodgers have you know,
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  Speaker 6: ten aces on their starting rotation, and you look at
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  Speaker 6: the Yankees and they just don't have that same type
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  Speaker 6: of depth. I mean, this is more, This is bigger
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  Speaker 6: than just losing Garrett Cole.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well, free they got, They have freed rode On,
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  Speaker 4: and they kept some guy named strong Man no man.
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  Speaker 4: Remember when he said I wasn't reliever and everyone was
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  Speaker 4: up in arms. Guess what, You're a starter, Marcus, and
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be counting on you a lot, so
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  Speaker 4: be ready. The question is is we're you know, obviously
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  Speaker 4: freed Rodin, Schmidt, Strowman. It heels out for a while,
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  Speaker 4: then what is there a trade? Is there a cease?
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  Speaker 4: They call the Dodgers them and say hey, we'll take
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  Speaker 4: your ninth starter. Hey, Brandon, this is Brian Cash. When
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  Speaker 4: we want your ninth starter for prospects. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But if you're the Dodgers, who do you let go?
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  Speaker 4: That's my question the ninth starter? I mean, how much
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  Speaker 4: can you get for a Bobby Miller. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just throwing a name out there, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, they just don't have the depth.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed, this is bad. This is bad if you're a
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  Speaker 4: Yankee fan, this is bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Quick clarification, Tanaka was recommended rest in rehab, not TJ,
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  Speaker 3: and he had the partially torn UCL, So just just
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  Speaker 3: to clarify.
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  Speaker 4: So, no, usually usually when you hear partially torn UCL,
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  Speaker 4: it almost always leads to Tommy John eventually, right. I
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  Speaker 4: mean I played with guys that were like, oh, you
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  Speaker 4: have a partially torn UCL, rest and rehab. They rest
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  Speaker 4: and rehab. They come out on one start, two winnings in,
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  Speaker 4: they're like, al and then they cut and this is
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  Speaker 4: two months down the road, right, So they eventually have
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  Speaker 4: it tonight. Because the only one that I can think
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  Speaker 4: of off the top of my head that had that
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  Speaker 4: and then didn't go on to have the surgery.
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  Speaker 3: So then what are we doing here, Kratz, Because like
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  Speaker 3: they mentioned, he's going to miss about half the year.
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  Speaker 3: Clark Schmidt had a very similar injury last year. They
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  Speaker 3: already said three months plus, so missing him for half
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  Speaker 3: the year. Let's assume that Cole is done for the
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  Speaker 3: year as well, right, and now you shift everyone up
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  Speaker 3: Freed and Rodin at the top, Clark Schmidt, Marcus Stroman
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  Speaker 3: and Will Warren hopefully for them, and not a ton
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  Speaker 3: of depth after that. Are they picking up the phone
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  Speaker 3: and calling aj Preller about Dylan Cees? Are they calling
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Gibson's agent? What are you doing? They have insurance
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  Speaker 3: on Garret Cole's deal too, so they're gonna get some
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  Speaker 3: money back. It sounds like they do have insurance, so
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  Speaker 3: don't worry. Hal Steinberner, who's really really looking around for
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  Speaker 3: his wallet these days, worried that the Dodgers are so
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  Speaker 3: much richer than him, might get some money back.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, well that's good. I'm I'm glad we
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  Speaker 2: set that record straight. The guy that they might need
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  Speaker 2: to look to right now, because, like you said, you
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  Speaker 2: can't just go and steal the Dodgers' ninth starter. You
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  Speaker 2: can't just all of a sudden quickly make a deal
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  Speaker 2: for Dylan cease And is Will Warren ready we watched
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  Speaker 2: it this weekend. The guy who made the start for
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees against the Cardinals. Is this cookies chance? Is
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  Speaker 2: Carlos Carrasco gonna get an opportunity to eat some innings?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Do they have to try to figure out how to
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  Speaker 2: build him up and hope, you know last year they
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  Speaker 2: can make adjustments on last year. That's why you bring
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  Speaker 2: veterans into spring training. You just hope you didn't need them.
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  Speaker 2: They hope they got to the end of spring training
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  Speaker 2: and didn't need Marcus Stroman like that would have been
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  Speaker 2: a great problem to have. And now he might be
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  Speaker 2: their number two, number three starter.
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  Speaker 5: But how did the Yankees get into this position?
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  Speaker 4: You guys?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you look at the fact that they obviously
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  Speaker 6: they have money. I know how time Runner doesn't want
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  Speaker 6: to spend like his dad did. But you're the New
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  Speaker 6: York Yankee. You're in the World Series last year, your
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  Speaker 6: runner up in the World Series. You obviously have money.
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  Speaker 6: You're not anticipating perhaps maybe you were that Garrett Cole
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  Speaker 6: was going to miss the year with TJ. But thank
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  Speaker 6: goodness you signed Max Freed because where would this team
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  Speaker 6: have been without Luis Heel probably Garrett Cole and if
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  Speaker 6: Max Freed wasn't in the rotation from the Atlanta Braves.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you have to go out and get somebody,
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  Speaker 6: maybe two guys.
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  Speaker 4: Do they have the prospect capital to do that?
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  Speaker 1: Though?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they give up a Spencer Jones to go get
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  Speaker 4: a big name guy? Would they would cash me? Do
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  Speaker 4: you have to?
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  Speaker 5: You want to win now?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they're in win now mode, aren't they isn't like.
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  Speaker 6: A team that wants to rebuild. You want to win now,
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  Speaker 6: So you have to go out and get a guy.
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  Speaker 6: I agree, think about your prospects later.
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  Speaker 4: What about Fetti? What about Fetti from Saint Louis. He's
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  Speaker 4: an innings eater. He throws strikes, he takes the ball
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  Speaker 4: every fifth day. Do you go Nolan Arnatto and get
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  Speaker 4: Fetti and that you might have to eat some money,
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  Speaker 4: but you don't have to give up as much capital
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  Speaker 4: and prospects. I don't know, just throwing a random trade
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  Speaker 4: out there for you.
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  Speaker 3: What about our pinstripe territory hosts Derek Levendowski said, Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Montgomery returns. I don't know if Monty necessarily wants to
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  Speaker 3: go back Crats. You know him pretty well, but you
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  Speaker 3: might not have a choice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, if he's available, obviously it's a good opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know he won't have a choice because of trade.
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  Speaker 2: But kind of what Alana said, like, you guys are
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  Speaker 2: in you guys are in Disney World right now, Like
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  Speaker 2: teams don't get that many starting pitchers. The Yankees felt
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  Speaker 2: like they were good to me, six solid dudes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about cy young candidates to Rookie of the
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  Speaker 2: Year winner last year, of your six guys, and now
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  Speaker 2: you get there and you're like, ooh, we have only
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  Speaker 2: four starters. Well not down fifty, they're down. They're down
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  Speaker 2: to four guys, Louis, Heel.
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  Speaker 4: And Louise And.
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  Speaker 5: Then yeah, I mean, but.
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  Speaker 4: They got free.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they got free because of this problem. That's
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  Speaker 2: why they went out and got free. Now, if you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about what ifs had they signed Sodo, they probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have gotten freed. So this is maybe a benefit
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  Speaker 2: of not signing Soda. You bolstered your depths which every
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  Speaker 2: team needs.
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  Speaker 6: They bolstered their depth, though on the position player side,
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  Speaker 6: obviously getting Bellinger and Goldie and I guess Devin Williams
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  Speaker 6: too help you, but they need pitching. And now I'm
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  Speaker 6: just surprised that it got to this point where you
• 9:36
  Speaker 6: know you're the New York You can't you can't go
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  Speaker 6: into a season thinking, all right, we're healthy with five guys.
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  Speaker 5: You know somebody's gonna drop.
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  Speaker 4: They also traded Meesser for Devin Williams, so that was a.
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  Speaker 5: Start throwing that cookie.
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  Speaker 4: They were said they were the better team, though just
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  Speaker 4: don't forget that they.
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  Speaker 3: That was the front office put them in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: If we're gonna go that deep into this, they should
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  Speaker 3: have put in our boyd, Tim Hill and STI. That
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  Speaker 3: was a huge mistake on their end, exactly. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: there by far the most injury hit team so far.
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  Speaker 3: There's even some smaller ones. We haven't had a ton
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  Speaker 3: of time to get to. Tyler mat six sounds like
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  Speaker 3: he's hurt, Scott f Ross, guys that they expect to
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  Speaker 3: be big parts of the Bullpen who still might be,
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  Speaker 3: but they're hurt. At least to start real quick here
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  Speaker 3: just because we won't have time later. We know John
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: Carlos standing. I mean, he still could miss the entire.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: He's messed up. He keeps getting PRP injections for his
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  Speaker 3: tennis elbow. The one thing just for the player perspective here,
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: real quick, AJ have you heard of this? Stanton basically
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: said that he was using a different bat and that's
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: why he had the double tennis elbow last season. He said,
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  Speaker 3: bat adjustments and that's why he's not sure when he's
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: going to be able to play again.
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: Has someone that used their saying bat the whole career?
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  Speaker 4: I never had that problem, never heard of this problem.
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  Speaker 4: I switched my bat for about a month. I went
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  Speaker 4: to Paul Canerco's fat handle bat. In my bat, I
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  Speaker 4: used a real skinny handle so it would break when
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  Speaker 4: I got jammed. Paul Knercos didn't break, and he always
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  Speaker 4: had thumb problems. And my thumb started hurting and I
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  Speaker 4: went back to my old bat at one away, so
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  Speaker 4: I told Paul, I'm like, maybe it's your bad. He
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  Speaker 4: was too stubborn, said he wanted to get a shot
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  Speaker 4: all the time in his thumb.
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  Speaker 5: But oh, by the way, this is the same guy Aj.
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  Speaker 6: When we walked into the clubhouse today, we were talking
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  Speaker 6: to Max months of you guys, and AJ was like,
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  Speaker 6: I've never had back problems. I've never had any problems.
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  Speaker 6: I've never He's the he's the outlier. Nothing ever hurts
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  Speaker 6: with Aj Piersinski. Do you think John Carlos Stanton ends
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  Speaker 6: his career on the il god?
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  Speaker 4: I mean that sucks. This, this sucks. I don't know, gosh.
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  Speaker 4: I hope he comes back, but oh man, this hurts
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  Speaker 4: their lineup like much like I mean, obviously cold going out,
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  Speaker 4: but Sodo gone, No Stanton. I mean we talked about
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: this your Yankees camp. Who the heck hits behind Judge?
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: If I'm crazy, if I'm on the other team, I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: Judge's up, And I mean Austin Well's cool, but Bellinger cool.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take my chances one hundred out of one hundred
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  Speaker 4: times against those guys.
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  Speaker 2: Completely agree. I don't know why. I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: guys were thrown to Judge last year. Nothing against Austin Wells.
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  Speaker 2: He had a hot month and a half at the
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  Speaker 2: end of at the end of the season. That really
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  Speaker 2: propelled him and the team threw the finish. But to me, tennis,
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of it. I've never even hurt anybody
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: say bat adjustments, like did he go to a longer bat?
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  Speaker 2: Was it a heavier bat? Was it a different knob.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like AJ in two thousand and five, I switched
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  Speaker 2: to the I thirteen and never switched back. Now, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying I was a good hitter. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: I never liked any other bats. So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: why he switched bats and how that could hurt your elbows.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's just huge biceps that
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: hurt his elbows. You look at that guy and you're like,
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: there's no way he can get hurt unless there's kryptonite somewhere.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: Bet MGM. Futures time, the National League winner will be
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: The Dodgers at plus one forty five have an insane
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  Speaker 3: edge right now, krat so much so that is it
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  Speaker 3: really worth throwing down bills when you're only getting nods
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  Speaker 3: at this level? Or do you look below Atlanta plus
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  Speaker 3: five hundred mets plus six to fifty Phillies plus six
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  Speaker 3: to fifty and next on the board after that is
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  Speaker 3: San Diego plus twelve hundred. Where is value?
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  Speaker 2: I mean that values rate in that National League East,
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  Speaker 2: the plus one forty five for the Dodgers, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: To me, i'd even look if you're telling me it's
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: plus one forty five for the Dodgers, I might see
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: if I can, you know, get some type of insurance.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty nine other teams win it other than the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to be it's not gonna be that much.
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  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be that much lower. So to me,
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  Speaker 2: I really like that. I really like it. Coming out
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  Speaker 2: of the National League East.
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  Speaker 1: It's so hard.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the Astros have done it recently. It's
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  Speaker 2: so hard to get back to the World Series, let
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  Speaker 2: alone win it. It's little easier to win the National League.
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  Speaker 2: But to me, this is the National League's gonna be way,
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  Speaker 2: way tougher. The winner of the National League wins the
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  Speaker 2: World Series. I think that's you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: where we're looking at, unless somebody emerges from the American
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  Speaker 2: League that can dominate some lineup. Because look at those
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  Speaker 2: top four teams, those lineups they are built to bang.
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  Speaker 2: So you need to be able to pitch to me
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  Speaker 2: if you want to get an outlier number outside of
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  Speaker 2: that plus six point fifty from the Phillies or Mets.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see what the Diamondbacks are because you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get a larger number because they have the
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  Speaker 2: Padres on there before the Diamondbacks, and I really like
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  Speaker 2: what the Diamondbacks could do coming into this year.
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  Speaker 3: I wholeheartedly agree Diamondbacks are definitely a plan. And you
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  Speaker 3: know that they're four figures there right We're showing you
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  Speaker 3: the top names on the board, so they're at least
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  Speaker 3: plus twelve hundred, if not even steeper than that. And
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  Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. Do you keep in mind
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  Speaker 3: that you think the NL is better, and do you
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  Speaker 3: think that baseball is crazy and the Dodgers could get upset?
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  Speaker 3: And you pick, say the five other best contenders in
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: the NL and put them at World Series winning odds
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  Speaker 3: each of them. You know what I'm saying, because you're
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  Speaker 3: you do win your first bet, then awesome, you nailed it.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Gambling problem or concern called one eight hundred gambler. Injuries suck.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: I mean we got pretty lucky for the first couple
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: weeks and then all of a sudden got destroyed with
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: injuries in the last few days. So let's start with
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: the catchers. Francisco Alvarez goes down. AJ it's the hamlet
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: bone that he fractured in his left hand. He's out
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: six to eight weeks. He's going to get the surgery done.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I think he actually got it done already today or
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: it's happening today. Luis Torrens was to pick to click
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: from Pete Alonzo. But how do you think this affects
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the Mets and their pitching staff and their hopes of
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: winning the division?
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Did you see the record last year when Alvarez played?
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: It was crazy good. They think it was way way
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: better when he played. Listen, I've had this surgery, I
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: have I have one scar. When you know a lot.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I was saying, I have one scar. It's right here.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: I had my handmaid taking out. I was, where's my
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: You don't need your handmaid, No, you don't know.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I know it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: It just like a little z looks like the Harry
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Potter scar. But I had it out in nineteen ninety nine.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I did off a position player. It sucks it. Luckily
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: it was at the end of the year. It cost
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: me a September call up. But I remember David Ortiz
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: had this in Minnesota. He broke his and he came
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: back like two or three weeks later, and he was
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: never the same. It hurt him for the rest of
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the year. So Francisco, take your time on this. It's
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: a weird little thing. It's just like this tiny little
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: hook that holds the tenans. You don't need it, but
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: when you break. I mean, I remember my hand was
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: stuck like this. I couldn't move these two fingers. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: it was in a triple A game and I had
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: to have the umpire throw the ball back to the
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: pitcher because it was a ninth inning and we were
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: winning like twenty to two, and so I had to
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: hand the ball to the umpire to throw back to
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: the pitcher the last inning.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, though, Kratz, because you look
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: at it and AJ's saying, hey, let's take your time.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: But can the metsa four for Alvarez to take their time?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. Can they afford it?
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, Speaking from a backup catcher's standpoint, Luis Terenz doesn't
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: need to go out there and hit three oh four,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: three oh five like he did last year. He needs
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to go and be the presence behind a dish. And
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I'll kind of hit on that while I'm also talking
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: about Alvarez. Everybody thinks, well, the inning doesn't or the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: pitch doesn't, the play doesn't start until the pitcher throws
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the ball. Reality is, everybody's looking at that catcher. Everybody's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: looking who's behind the dish. And whatever his energy is,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: whatever the way he moves around is, that's how the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: team really goes. They either do it in spite of
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: him or they follow him. And this is not to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: blow AJ up, but Aj, you know that energy behind
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the dish people the team, the team felt that. You know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: they went on to win a World Series. Teams that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: have somebody who's lackluster and just doesn't really care. Back
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: there don't make runs in the playoff, So Alvarez is
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: a huge loss back there. No matter what people say
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: he hit in the playoffs, who cares what he did.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: That energy that he brings, we saw it last year
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in spring training when he came on our show. It's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: just a different kind of swag, a different kind of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: alpha male in the clubhouse that when he's in the lineup,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: when he's behind the dish, everybody goes. Everybody's energized, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: that's what they need from Torrents. So how he does that,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. But if Pete A. Lonso is
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: already talking about you and you're the backup catcher, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: think they have a suitable a suitable backup there who
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: can step in for probably two to three weeks of
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: By the way, you know how Alvarez, You know, Alvrez
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: is a study. He has a tattoo. I think of
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: a scorpion on his neck. And remember Adam Wainwright said
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: about YACHTI you don't mess with guys with tattoos on
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: their neck.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Yatti is the last person in the world I'd want
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: to see like in an alley.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: See he's Alvarez. Also, Yatty had like the musical note
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: and now Alvaz I think he has a scorpion. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Waynos said it, you don't mess with guys with tattoos
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: on their neck, especially catchers.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: And you better take your time with him because you
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: need the bat to come around too. He was bad
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs for the most part, and you need
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that bat right. It's tough for any team to get
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: their catcher up to speed for October to be able
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: to hit. We've seen catchers really struggles. So take your
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: damn time, Mets, even if you finish as a wildcard.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Next up a team that keeps finishing just short because
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: their ownership doesn't give a crap. George Kirby is hurt
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: shut down with a shoulder issue GM Justin Hollander talked
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: about it here. He is all right.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: First injury update unfortunately of camp Uh.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: George Kirby has not been.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Feeling great after his audience in outing. He's doing all well,
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: same velocity as you would expect. He just hasn't felt
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: like he's bouncing back great.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We did an MRI. M looks great.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: No structural concerns whatsoever. And I will repeat that zero
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: structural concerns. There is some info in there, then we
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: need to get out, so, much to George's chagrin, we're
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: going to take the ball out of his hands. George
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: wants to keep going and he's going to lose this argument.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: We need the information out, so we will shut George
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: down and work on getting the information out. This is
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: more like a week to week thing than a day
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: to day thing. We just want to make sure we're
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: doing the right thing. Wow, We want to make sure
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: that we're doing the right thing for the big picture
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: of the whole season, as opposed to worrying about opening day.
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: George will likely start the season on the il, just
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: with not having pitched a full build up of spring.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: We don't think this is anything long term concerning whatsoever. Again,
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: no concerns are the structural issue. We just want to
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: make sure we're doing the right thing. So we will
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: reassess a week from now and see how the inflammation
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: looks and see how he's feeling.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And we'll go from there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: If you're listening, later on, he said, wow, because the
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: lights went off for a second, probably because their owner
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: forgot to pay the Bill on purpose and then quickly
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: figured it out since their biggest move in the off
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: season was Dona Vinsulano and they just assume aja that
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: they're perfect set of five in their rotation is just
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: going to be healthy every single year and get them
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: close enough to fifty four percent. So how much does
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: this hurt when it's to do that not only is
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: one of the best starters in baseball, but also goes
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: deep into games and helps the bullpen out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I agree this is a big one. As much as
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: we talk about col being a big one, this is
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: a big one for the Mariners. And my question is
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: is I don't know who that was? Who was that?
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Was that the trainer?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Given the update of no, No's Justin Hollander. He's the GM,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: He's the minion for Topoto Fordapoto.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Yeah.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: My question is is if there's no structural damage, then
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: why is he not Why is he sore? I don't understand.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I know there's inflammation in there, but shoulders you never
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: want to hear shoulders. Shoulders are bad. I mean when
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: guys have shoulder surgery or shoulder problems, it takes a
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: long time. Elbows or elbows, but shoulders are a different thing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: You don't want to see this in a guy like
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: George Kirkby. We want him back because I want to
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: see him pitch. I love watching him pitch. And if
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: you're a Mariners fan, you need him back because these
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: five guys pitched almost every start last year for you.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: He does five guys to be incredibly Again, if you
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: have a shot in that division.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: If you have a shot in the division, because they
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: did not get anybody to bolster their offense, you have
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: to rely and anybody puts the Mariners five probably is
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: the best rotation in baseball.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: But if over the Dodgers, Yeah, I mean maybe not
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: maybe I don't know, maybe with stuff.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Over the Dodgers.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Maybe with stuff Wow, maybe with stuff.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: But you figure if azaki Tyler Glass, Blake Snow.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: Tyler glasnow has it, I love the good injury problems
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: momotos year.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: We don't know what I'm just.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Saying, stuff wise, stuff wise.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's let's say in the American Lake best.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, there you go.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: All right, you're the one that's always calling me a homer.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I'm trying not to be. You can't imagine, you can't
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: imagine that you're gonna go through an entire season with
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: all five of your guys healthy. Now George Kirby goes
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: down with inflammation, but he sore. Who knows if it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: gonna I mean, he did say. Hollander did say there's
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: no structural damage, but you are. If you're gonna win
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: in the Al West, you're to have to pitch because
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: they don't have the offense. If anything else happens to
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: one of their starters, they're gonna be the bottom of
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: the division, except for maybe the athletics be.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Good this year.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: These are my sneaky pick to be pretty good this year,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: just saying they're my sneaky pick.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Alana's a Rockies fan. She's not a Dodgers fan. She's
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a huge Rockies fan.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: She was her blue pants, say something different, trust me, okay, okay,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: in the hug, In the hugs she received when she
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: walked in here today, it was like I walked in.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: It was like I walked in with Magic. It was
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: like I walked in with Magic Johnson today. I walked
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: in with her. I waited to go in the clubhouse
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: with her. And when we walked in, the look, I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: the look on these players face, and forget the players
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: of the clubhouse guys, the media guys. I mean, everybody
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: that saw her was like, oh my gosh, biggest hug. Meanwhile,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: to me, they're like, not true.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Wait till you gotta wait till you got the Salt River.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Wait till you get the Salt River. It's gonna be
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be unbelievable out there, unbelievable. But here's my
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: here's that's my issue. If he has no structural damage
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and he has soreness in there, one of the things
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that I and maybe some pitchers can can tell me
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong on this one, but when your shoulder hurts,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: your command goes. This is a dude that has walked
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: like twenty two, twenty three and nineteen guys in full
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: seasons the last three years. Like, he is a guy
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that has incredible command. I'd hate to see him come
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: back and say, well, there's nothing structural. I got a
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: pitch through it, and then his command starts to go
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: because he's still relatively young pitcher and you don't want
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: him to rush back, but they need him to rush back.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So I guess it's good they didn't trade Luis Castillo.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Too, that's right. So their rotation right now is Logan
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Gilbert stud, Luis Castillo solid although not a one anymore,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Bryce Miller very good, Brian wu super super stud, but
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: also very injury prone. Emerson handtime. It's not been good
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: for them, yeah, of course, but also limited. You're saying
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: injury wise, he's been.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, they've been very very careful with him.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, he's been given kid gloves for now. Emerson Hancock,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: who's had fifteen starts the last two years for seven
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to one era, he hasn't worked out really and that's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: in Seattle's ballpark. So factoring in obviously, how that's the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: pitchers ballpark, you know, the best pitchers ballpark in baseball,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: this team could be in some trouble. They literally aj
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: are going to have to score some more runs to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: get by here if Kirby's missing for a good chunk
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of time, and that's assuming that everybody else is intact.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I looked after Hancock, there's really not major league ready
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: starters at all. They are not deep in terms of starters.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: They are really thin with their farm system. They have
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: a ton of great position players that are still a
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: year or two away. So I feel like the timing's
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: getting weird for this team. They just had these guys
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: for their prime for two years. They maybe have them
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: for another year or two, and then obviously some of
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: them are going to leave because they're going to get
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: more money elsewhere. Then they're position players are going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: come through, So they're not timing their winning window out
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: by of course not going after it hitting.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: Wise, But you're also assuming that the physician players are
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: going to either play over their skis or all have
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: better numbers than they did the last year. I mean,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: they didn't add anybody to that lineup to lengthen it
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: at all, so you're again going to rely heavily on
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: your starting rotation, who as you mentioned earlier, Scott Kirby
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: was the only one that really went deep into the
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: ball game to kind of save the bullpen.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: So I mean Justin.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Turner said it, he played there. What else you know?
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Justin Turner, he doesn't say things that that you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: he doesn't mean he doesn't, But Justin Turner said it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: What do you say they didn't do anything and I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: don't know why. And he even said, if I'm the
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: only one they brought back, guess what they messed up
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the offseason if you would have had to trade lose
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Luis Castillo to get a bat or a bats with
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: an S to help you with money, if they didn't
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: do that either, And now we'll see. But you made
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: fun of the A's made play. I'm telling you right now,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I'm a Sacramento think they're gonna be I think they're
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: gonna be better than you think.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I hope.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: So the team, the players themselves and Kotsay deserve that, agreed.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: The fans deserve that, except if they get to the playoffs.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: They got to come play here cameelll back branch. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: don't know where they're gonna play.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Every team in that division besides probably the Mariners for sure,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and maybe the Astros were better, are going to be better.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: The Angels are not great, but they should be better
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: than last year. They actually did things this offseason. Even
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: if they're not good, they're going to be better. A
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: should be better, Rangers should be better. Astros certainly aren't
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: going to be bad. And then you've got the managers
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: who did nothing and now we're down a number one
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: starter already to start the year.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: So I mean, at least the spend some money, which
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: is different than they've done in the past and which
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: was awesome.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to be money. They're spending other
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people's money because they have to.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: But at least they're spending it. There's another team that
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: needs to spend it. There's a team in Miami that
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: has supposed to and they're's been in anything so all
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: of Florida.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: All right, one more injury that we didn't have time for,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: but we'll do right now for the YouTube fan Grayson
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez elbowed his comfort shut down for seven to ten
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: days his last start. He was in like the ninety range.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Exited a couple of batters later when he was chucking
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: a pitch or too that I think that we're eighty
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: nine miles an hour and they're like, right, get him
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: out of there so they'll see what happens. Of course,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: you know, he had some issues last year that ended
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: his season earlier than he wanted it to be, and
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: one of their big reliever signings, Andrew Kittridge, in the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: off season, had knee surgery. This one didn't get a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: lot of coverage, but they were expecting him to be
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: a big part of the bullpen one year ten million
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: bucks and he's going to miss months of time. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: the Oriols take a hit to a bullpen that should
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: be pretty good but just lost some depth, and then
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: their rotation is thin. We've talked about this. The one
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: sign of hope for Os fans. Kratz is Ken and
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mooney came out with a report last night that
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the Auras are still looking into some other pitching options.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: While the Mariners are not. The Yankees, at least at
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the time, are not. But they said that the Orioles
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: are dancing around to see what that looks like. Is
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: it a top end guy, is it a filler like
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: bringing back a Kyle Gibson. It sounds like they're going
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to need something.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: They definitely need something, just for the fact that you
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: need those innings. You can't you can't replace Grayson Rodriguez.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: You can't.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: He's on here all the time, Howie talks. You know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the energy that he brings to that team, So if
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: they need to try to replace him, you can't just.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, okay, we'll just go get Dylan.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Sees like that is a also not a because of Like,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to me, if you're going to make that big splash
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: clearly that you can make it in spring training. AJ
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Pewler is not afraid to trade guys during spring training
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and make these moves late. But they need the innings.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So right now, you need to find innings, whether it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: a Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson had so much success, so
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: many guys on the pitching staff and the position players
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: raved about him when he was over there. You have
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to find those innings. And when Grayson comes back, it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: okay to have Grayson an innings either and a Dylan
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Cees and another guy. You know, it's okay to have
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that because this is where we're at in spring training
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: That's what he said.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. Hey, we've got Juan Soto quotes.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: He's been speaking doing a little podcasting, and he addressed
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the rumors about the Yankees security guard that was given
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: his team the Heisman last year. He said, quote, It's
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: not true that I had problems with a Yankee security guard.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It's not true that I asked for a luxury suite,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and it's not true that the Yankees reached a point
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: in the offer where the difference with respect to the
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Mets offer was forty million dollars. Let's show the other
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: one too, and then we can comment on it. He
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: talked about the National's offer from several years ago. He said,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I got three offers. First, an offer similar to a
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Kunya steal and that was eight years, one hundred mil
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: I think, plus options that he's on right now. Then
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: another offer similar to Tatis, who's in the three hundred
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: something range. Then came the four undred forty million dollar offer.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: If they had signed Trey Turner, Anthony Rendon and Bryce Harper,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I would have accepted an offer even lower than four
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: hundred forty million bucks. Crat to you first. Here thoughts
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: on both of these.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I want to hit on this tweet first, talking about
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Nationals. To me, this show's he wants to win.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Does he want the money? Absolutely absolutely, But he said
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: he would have accepted that had essentially, had the future
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: looked bright, had the future had superstars like him, You
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: can't tell a superstar look at what we have in
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the minor leagues. Superstars don't care about prospects. He's gonna
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: be there for fifteen years. There's gonna be like three
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: rounds of prospects that are coming through. Had you signed
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: those guys back, you would have still had won Soto. WHOA,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: what a team that would have been had you just
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: signed two of those threes guys back, and you can
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you know it's one. I'm pretty sure you didn't want
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to sign back.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not signing Harper back there. If they signed Harper,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: they couldn't afford Soto. They signed Turner Ann Harper, they
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: definitely in ye he says he would have taken less
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: than four forty. Then why didn't you take the Acunion deal?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: Because then maybe they could have afforded him, but he didn't.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: But that's the that's the thing I got out of that,
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: what krat said about he wants to win. I agree,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: if you surround me with some winnable players, surround me
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: with the good team.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: I believe that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: But the other thing, why did you go back to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: the ankle?
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: And the other thing I got out of it, I
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: don't think he liked playing with the anchor.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: There you have it.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: The other thing I got out of that is Akunya
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: was way way way underpaid.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: He still way way underpaid him. All these all those
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: guys they signed, You can you can throw Riley in there,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: you can throw Matt Olson, and then all those guys
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: are very underpaid.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: I don't like that they locked up their core for
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: a long time, but holy moly, he's underpaid.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know. I just think. I just
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: think that for me. For me, I think sodo. You know,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: it's easy to say this after you signed for seven
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five million dollars. It's easy to say, oh,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: I would have taken less, I would have done this,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I would have done that. And it's also easy for
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: me to say, oh, well, this wasn't why I left
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the Yankees. It wasn't this, it wasn't that whatever. But
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: these are all things that everyone said happened. It wasn't
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: just like some random reporters saying, oh, well he didn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: want he wanted a sweet and yank say we don't
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: do that and this and that. So yeah, listen, one,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: you got all the money, you went to the place
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: you wanted to go. What did Aaron Judge say he
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: wanted to be seemed like he wanted to be with
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the Mets. Well there he is. Now he's got his years,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: he's got his money, go win.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: So has the tide turn. Then, is now the Mets
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: more of a destination than is Queen's more.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Of a la was busy so they couldn't sign him.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: We have a good right fielder.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I know he's awesome. I love that guy.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: But I mean, is is the Mets more desirable now
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: Scott your squad? Is the Mets more desirable than of
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: being a Yankee?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know about them being a Yankee. I wouldn't
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: go that far. I think it's fit by fit though,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I mean Krats. There is a huge difference between the
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: way the Yankees conduct themselves and the Mets conduct themselves,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and I think they're just two completely different flavors right now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: As you like to bring up, Metts had all kinds
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: of fun and skits, and that did keep them loose,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and they spoke about how they loved that. I actually
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: put that as a comp to what the Rays do.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: And sometimes you have to tiptoe the line there, right
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: because the Rays kind of let them do their own thing,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: be themselves. And then it did sound like, obviously when
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: times don't go as well, they want to tighten things
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: up this year. You don't have that with the Yankees.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: You're not going to have a.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Post g concert.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Why let Jose Glacias go when he doesn't, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: if you like the loosey goosey and those types of things,
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: and he doesn't cost you that much.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: That wasn't about the personality, at least from what I
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: heard from the inside. They're like, we have a logjam
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: right now of players that we need to eventually get
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: on the field, bre At Batty, Ronnie Maurisio, et cetera.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And they're like, those guys don't cost anything. We have
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to give them a chance or we're wasting them away.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: They feel like some of those guys are big league
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: players now. Now I can make the case that they
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: didn't need to sign Nick Madrigal moot point now anyway,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: because he's hurt, probably down, but they've got the guys
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: they need. It looks like Baties crushing it in spring anyway.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: They don't even have a spot frame. He's going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: be a utility guy. So I just think it was
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a roster move more than anything. I mean, we talked
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: about it a lot of For me, it wasn't just
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that the Padres scooped him up on a minor league deal.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I'm like, where the hell is the rest of the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: league on this guy short thing. Glove clutches can be
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: had a great year last year, but krats anyway. Difference
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: between the two clubhouses in your mind.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, talking to some of the Mets guys when
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: we were down there last week, I think they were
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: kind of over the gimmick stuff.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: What they're not over is just being who they are.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Giving themselves the opportunity to accept in a superstar, not
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: just okay, well now we have to go onto the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: next superstar. And I think there's a different there's a
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: different vibe in both those clubhouses. But I think it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: more from an outsider's viewpoint because the Yankees clubhouse being
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in there, I know it is a lot of fun.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: From the outside, it looks prim and proper and all,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you know, everything in a line. The Mets clubhouse is
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: just more of what I saw as most clubhouses.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: It just came to light.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It was just shown through, you know, the New York
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I think the Yankees do a good job of sheltering
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: those things that, you know, the games and the gimmicks
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: and everything that everybody plays in the clubhouse. If they
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: have something, they keep it to themselves. The Mets just
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: let it out there. So I don't think there's that
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: much of a difference in the clubhouses. But obviously, besides
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the half of you know, half a day I was
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: there and last last week in spring training, that's the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: extent of being in the Mets clubhouse for me.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And Scott Borers, by the way, hasn't said anything officially,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: but I'm sure he'd be like, no, four forty, we
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: almost doubled that. Okay, on I would have stopped you
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: he did.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: He's a Red Sox fan. He's got some Red Sox
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: fan anyway, so it doesn't matter. He's a Red Sox.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: His hat, his hat, his hat. You wore a Red
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Sox hat at the press.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: So he's like, maybe he talked them out of the Yankees,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: then don't let's leave them alone.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: He's like Alana with the Dodgers. Nobody's signed with the Rockies.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Everyone go to La and.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: On the same playing field. Like they're not even big Rockies.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: They are on the same playing field when they play
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: each other. They're on the same literally, on the same
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: playing field.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Alana Homer organizations are not the same.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: They're just not Rocky Rockney sim Okay, all right, we're back,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and I do want to bring in Alana for this
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: one if we can. Michael Grove with season ending surgery
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: right labor repair. Sounds like it's been a problem obviously
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: since last year. The off season didn't work. I mean, Alana,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: not a lot of people know about him yet nationally Obviously,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the Dodgers are going to be okay without him,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: But how's this loss for them? Just takes an arm
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: obviously off the roster for the year. But is this
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a big deal loss or it's like, Okay, he wasn't
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: going to be a big factor for this team.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: No.
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: I think, first of all, I feel bad for the player.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is a guy that did have opportunities
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: to pitch for the Dodgers last year because, as we know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: they were decimated by injury and they were using every
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: single arm that they could possibly get. I think obviously
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: the depth going into the season this year Scotti is
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: a lot better for the Dodgers, not only from the
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: starting staff, but just all the way up and down
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: the roster. This is the best I've felt about a
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Dodger's bullpen in a really long time. We were in
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: the clubhouse. This morning, we saw Michael Grove and that
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: sling and AJ was pointing out he stills like the
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: writing on his arm. As far as the surgery is concerned,
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: but you look at the Dodgers' bullpen guys, and I
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: know we're talking about Michael Grove, but you look at
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: the Dodgers bullpen and you see the lockers when we
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: were in there today and it was like, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Kirby Yates, Tanner, Scott, Michael Kopek, all the you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: all these different guys, and you're like, this is a
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: pretty freaking good bullpen. But as far as Michael Grove
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: is concerned, yeah, I mean, this is a guy that
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, had the potential of pitching some
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: some beginnings for the Dodgers. Do they need him as
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: much this year as they did last year?
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: No?
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: But uh, I mean this is a team that you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: really utilizes their guys in the best way possible to
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: kind of finaggle the non traditional way of pitching. Now
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: and it sucks for him he's done for the year.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: But as far as the big picture is concerned, let's
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: just say that the Dodgers can can survive this A
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: lot more than I think the Yankees can can survive
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: missing a Garrett Cole obviously at a Louis Hill.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodgers prepared themselves for losses like this. The
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Tigers made a little signing that's more for next year,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: but we like to document anything of note. Jose or
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Keaty signs a contract gets the million bucks this year,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: he can make a lot more next year, especially if
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: he contribute starts. He's coming back from from with a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Tommy John or elbow surgery. There, it is all the details. Yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Tommy John. It was June fifth for Katie, who's a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: nice part of the Astros for rotation for several years,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: and Cody Stavenhagen. Tiger Territory hosts at club option for
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: next year also contains performance bonuses on top of the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: form million bucks. If they do decide to have him
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty six run, he gets one hundred
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and fifty grand each for four and seven games started,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: three hundred K when he hits ten starts, then another
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: three hundred for thirteen, sixteen, nineteen, then five hundred K
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: he gets to twenty two starts, twenty five starts and
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: twenty eight starts nice crats. I mean, it's probably the
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: only time we're going to talk about it, but good idea.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a solid pitcher. He could come
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: back and be a mid rotation or back of rotation starter,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: depending on what that rotation looks like.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: A completely incentive Leyden pitcher for two years from now
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that you're paying a million dollars to rehab that has
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: a career under four era, has pitched in some huge
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: games in the playoffs. I think the Tigers just keep
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: making these little ads, these little ads. Obviously, the chance
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: of him helping this year are remote, you know, maybe
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: like September type of thing. But you sit there and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you go the Tigers are just slowly moving in this direction.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: We don't I don't feel like the Tigers were doing
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: this before. Some success last year makes them think, okay,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: you know, they get a little taste. They want more,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and they want to continue to have more because they
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: have a young they have a young core that if
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: they're successful, we'll be there for a little while.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: That's right. And that includes Jackson job who, by the way,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I had the quote of the weekend talking about how
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: he's not going to just dance around anymore with his stuff.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: He said, quote, I'm done with trying to do a
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: dot a NAT's ass. Just here's my stuff. If you
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: hit it, good, odds are probably not baller quote.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, at such a young age
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he was able to do that. You know, you think
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: about young pitchers Andrew Paynter over at the Phillies. Two
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: guys have elite arms that throw, that can throw strikes
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and know where it's going. Now he's got that little
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: like f you mentality, He sh.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get the weeds here. The Rays are
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: owned by schu Sternberg for many years. They are battling
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: with the Saint Pete city officials right now to figure
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: out their stadium situation. It was delayed. They want Saint
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Pete to take on more of the money. Saint Pete's like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: do you even have the money? Stue. And now this
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: story comes out last night from Evandrelik and the Athletic
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: aj MLB and other owners are going to kind of
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: try and push him out. You can't officially do that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: It sounds like they're going to have a nice heavyweight
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: fight against him. But what do you think of all this?
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: They can threaten revenue sharing money. Eventually the Rays get
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: about sixty million bucks a year, and they've got that
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: March thirty first deadline. The Rays do to have the
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: money that they need to contribute to this new ballpark
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: one point three billion dollars. Price is rising because it's
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: been delayed and the Rays have to come up with
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of cash that I don't know if they
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: necessarily have. So what's the deal here?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: That's a great question. It's going to be interesting to see.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I've never heard of the owners forcing anyone to sell,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: and like it's like, oh wait, this is big news.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Now there's a bunch of groups lining up, I guess
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: to try to buy this team. I know, you know
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: in Orlando we've kind of talked about this, but there's
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: some people in Orlando they like to get and how
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you're hearing about people in Tampa that would like to
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: get it. The main question for me is will they
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: be able to get a stadium in Tampa because Sternberg
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: is not going to go quietly. He's gonna he's gonna
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: want to fight this. He's not just going to sell.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: If someone gets to a price Loana, that's like outrageous.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: I'm always wondering when ownership groups or teams say we
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: don't have the money to do this, you do.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: You do have the money.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Maybe you don't want to buy an entire stadium, but
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: you've got to continue to put a with.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: A seven hundred and fifty million or whatever he has
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: to come up with. Is a regal No, it's it's.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: It's it's expensive. I understand that. But you're also making
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: a boatload of cash too.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Hey, I listen, we sell the time. The owners aren't
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: poor on here, No, but they cry poor, but they're
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: not poor. So I think, I don't know. It's going
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: to be interesting to see what happens on March thirty first,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: because the things that can have it is they can
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: not have the money, and then they're the same pete
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: thing goes away, or they can put an extension on it,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: and they can give a thirty day sixty ninety day extension.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Sturnberg has tried to raise the money. I don't know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Listen, I'm not in this, but I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: you know, I've talked to a bunch of people about this.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Does he have the money? Nobody's really sure that he
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: has the money.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Could happen to the Rays is to build a stadium
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: the size of stein Brennerfield and put a roof on it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Because they don't sell out their.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Stadium, well you gotta go. You gotta have thirty thousand people.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Though they don't fill it out.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't they would if they moved east East East
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Tampa Orlando ish area. There's there's just you can draw from.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many times you've been to Saint Pete,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: probably never, because you know, Dodgers don't go there often
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: mean to. It's not easy to get to and it's
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: just not fun to go to. They need to have
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: a yeah, but they used to have nothing. They need
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: to have it so on sunny days they can play
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  Speaker 4: outside and then they can close it.
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  Speaker 5: It's gonna work.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, Tampa playing at Steinbrennerfield and the middle.
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  Speaker 4: Of July quote Freddie can't walk slower, so you can't
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  Speaker 4: walk any.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. Matt Silverman's the team president of the race, and
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: he said, quote it's not a question of whether we
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: have the funds. We do. The question is whether it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: a good use of those funds to commit us in
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: MLB to this ballpark for the next thirty years. You
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: guys made the deal. They also made the deal. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: if they're gonna act like, oh, I don't know if
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: this is the right thing, well, then why are you
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: doing another deal in Saint Pete when everyone else thinks
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: that you should be in Tampa. We're obviously like AJ
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: and even me. Maybe try out a different spot like Orlando.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Tampa will definitely do better. There is a stigma about
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: crossing over the causeway, So okay, thoughts krats on why
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the Rais are being attacked so much when the A's
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: were allowed to just dance around for a couple decades
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: and then eventually move to another city. They don't want
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: them to relocate, okay, because that takes leverage away from
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: a city that right now they need. Right they need
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: at least a couple cities involved in e bid the
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: East the East portion of the country bid, the West
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: course portion of the country bid to make sure that
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: they get the two point something billion dollars when expansion
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: teams pop up. But technically they cannot force the Ray's
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: owner to sell, and he's going to be tough here.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: He bought the team for two hundred Milli. In two
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: thousand and four, Forbes values the team at one point
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: twenty five bill. That doesn't mean he has to sell
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: them just because they're going to go after him, but
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: revenue sharing is a big deal, and if they do
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: eventually strip sixty million year from the Rays, it is
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: going to certainly put them in a tough spot.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Good for the owners for doing this, Good for the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: owners standing up to not necessarily like Okay, we're pushing
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: them out. But you have to set limits. You have
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: to set limits because they saw what kind of happened
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: with Oaklynn, like, hey, it's time, like you have the
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: opportunity to get this stadium thing finished or we're gonna
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: move on. To me, I'm always the one that wants
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: to know what it's like to be in on the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: those meetings. I want to know if they're like, yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you know, you really got to move on. And then
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: John Fisher's in the background, He's like, yeah, tell them, guys,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: like tell tell them what he needs to hear, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: it's like John, zip it. We like you like, don't
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: speak up here.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they do need to figure this out, because you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Manford before he retires, wants to have the expansion plan
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: in place, and we did think that Saint Pete and
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: the Rays had a deal. And part of the fight
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: here is that the hurricane caused delays to the process,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: which then causes delays to the construction, and the Rays
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: want Saint Pete to pay at least a portion of
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: the delays, and Saint Pete's like, we are not budging
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: after this. We've seen standoffs for twenty years with two teams,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: so they will stand off. But I don't think Saint
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Pete's given in on this one. I think they have
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: very much held their ground and said, we already did
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: a deal. This is what we commit. The rest is
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: on you. So we're gonna learn a lot in the
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: next few weeks about this. But anyway, up there
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And they up there, and they up their amount too
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: on some different politicians, and Saint Pete up there a mountain,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: that's right,