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#11 - Choosing an Unusual Career Path Across Three Countries · Beyond Leadership - Adopting a Coaching Mindset

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  Oh, hold on a second. I can't hear
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  Oh, hold on a second. I can't hear anything<00:00:02.000> because<00:00:02.240> I'm<00:00:02.399> pouring<00:00:02.720> water<00:00:02.960> into
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  anything because I'm pouring water into
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  anything because I'm pouring water into my<00:00:03.520> har.
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  my har.
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  my har. Ah,<00:00:05.680> okay.<00:00:06.160> I<00:00:06.799> And<00:00:06.960> let<00:00:07.200> me<00:00:07.279> get<00:00:07.520> my<00:00:08.559> my
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  Ah, okay. I And let me get my my
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  Ah, okay. I And let me get my my microphone<00:00:09.519> better<00:00:09.920> placed<00:00:10.400> here.
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  microphone better placed here.
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  microphone better placed here. There<00:00:12.160> we<00:00:12.320> go.<00:00:12.639> Do<00:00:12.880> you<00:00:12.960> hear<00:00:13.120> me?<00:00:13.280> Okay.
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  There we go. Do you hear me? Okay.
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  There we go. Do you hear me? Okay. I<00:00:14.400> hear<00:00:14.559> you<00:00:14.799> loud<00:00:14.960> and<00:00:15.200> clear.<00:00:15.599> I<00:00:15.839> hope<00:00:16.000> you
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  I hear you loud and clear. I hope you
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  I hear you loud and clear. I hope you also<00:00:16.480> hear<00:00:16.720> me.
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  also hear me.
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  also hear me. I<00:00:17.600> do.<00:00:17.920> I<00:00:18.160> do.
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  I do. I do.
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  I do. I do. Fantastic.<00:00:19.439> Fantastic.<00:00:20.160> And<00:00:20.320> I<00:00:20.480> have<00:00:20.640> one
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  Fantastic. Fantastic. And I have one
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  Fantastic. Fantastic. And I have one question<00:00:21.279> before<00:00:21.520> we<00:00:21.760> start.<00:00:22.800> uh<00:00:23.439> is<00:00:23.840> relating
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  question before we start. uh is relating
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  question before we start. uh is relating to<00:00:24.480> the<00:00:24.720> fact<00:00:24.880> that<00:00:25.760> uh<00:00:26.560> the<00:00:26.720> love<00:00:26.960> of<00:00:27.119> my<00:00:27.359> life
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  to the fact that uh the love of my life
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  to the fact that uh the love of my life uh<00:00:28.240> lives<00:00:28.880> lived<00:00:29.359> in<00:00:29.599> Copenhagen<00:00:30.240> and<00:00:30.400> we
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  uh lives lived in Copenhagen and we
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  uh lives lived in Copenhagen and we chose<00:00:30.800> to<00:00:30.960> move<00:00:31.119> to<00:00:31.519> uh<00:00:31.599> to<00:00:31.840> Melmouth.<00:00:32.800> Um<00:00:33.680> I
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  chose to move to uh to Melmouth. Um I
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  chose to move to uh to Melmouth. Um I don't<00:00:34.079> know<00:00:34.239> how<00:00:34.719> conservative<00:00:35.360> your
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  don't know how conservative your
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  don't know how conservative your audience<00:00:36.320> is<00:00:36.960> uh<00:00:37.040> but<00:00:37.280> but<00:00:37.520> the<00:00:37.760> fact<00:00:37.920> is<00:00:38.239> he's
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  audience is uh but but the fact is he's
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  audience is uh but but the fact is he's a<00:00:38.719> boy.<00:00:39.360> Uh<00:00:40.320> so<00:00:40.559> so<00:00:40.719> I<00:00:40.879> don't<00:00:41.040> think
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  a boy. Uh so so I don't think
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  a boy. Uh so so I don't think my<00:00:41.520> audience<00:00:41.840> loves<00:00:42.160> boys.
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  my audience loves boys.
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  my audience loves boys. Fantastic.
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  Welcome<00:00:49.440> to<00:00:49.760> Beyond<00:00:50.239> Leadership.<00:00:51.360> Adopting<00:00:51.840> a
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  Welcome to Beyond Leadership. Adopting a
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  Welcome to Beyond Leadership. Adopting a coaching<00:00:52.480> mindset.<00:00:53.760> In<00:00:54.000> this<00:00:54.160> series,<00:00:54.719> our
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  coaching mindset. In this series, our
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  coaching mindset. In this series, our conversations<00:00:55.680> aren't<00:00:56.079> about<00:00:56.399> biography<00:00:57.120> or
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  conversations aren't about biography or
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  conversations aren't about biography or polished<00:00:57.920> advice.<00:00:58.719> They're<00:00:58.960> about<00:00:59.199> how
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  polished advice. They're about how
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  polished advice. They're about how decisions<00:00:59.920> are<00:01:00.160> made<00:01:00.399> in<00:01:00.559> the<00:01:00.719> real<00:01:00.960> world
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  decisions are made in the real world
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  decisions are made in the real world when<00:01:01.600> the<00:01:01.840> pressure<00:01:02.239> is<00:01:02.480> on.<00:01:03.280> We'll<00:01:03.520> anchor<00:01:03.840> on
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  when the pressure is on. We'll anchor on
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  when the pressure is on. We'll anchor on one<00:01:04.400> situation<00:01:05.199> where<00:01:05.439> the<00:01:05.680> path<00:01:06.080> wasn't
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  one situation where the path wasn't
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  one situation where the path wasn't obvious,<00:01:07.280> and<00:01:07.600> explore<00:01:08.080> what<00:01:08.400> goes<00:01:08.640> on<00:01:08.880> in<00:01:09.119> the
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  obvious, and explore what goes on in the
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  obvious, and explore what goes on in the mind<00:01:09.439> of<00:01:09.600> a<00:01:09.760> leader<00:01:10.240> when<00:01:10.640> confronted<00:01:11.200> with
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  mind of a leader when confronted with
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  mind of a leader when confronted with real<00:01:11.920> tradeoffs,<00:01:12.960> imperfect<00:01:13.680> information,
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  real tradeoffs, imperfect information,
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  real tradeoffs, imperfect information, and<00:01:14.960> the<00:01:15.280> need<00:01:15.520> to<00:01:15.840> move<00:01:16.320> anyway.
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  This podcast is brought to you by Pier
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  So,<00:01:33.280> uh,
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  So, uh,
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  So, uh, no,<00:01:33.680> no,<00:01:33.840> no,<00:01:34.000> no,<00:01:34.240> no.<00:01:34.479> It's<00:01:34.640> nice<00:01:34.799> of<00:01:35.040> you<00:01:35.119> to
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  no, no, no, no, no. It's nice of you to
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  no, no, no, no, no. It's nice of you to bring<00:01:35.439> that<00:01:35.600> up,<00:01:35.759> but<00:01:37.119> I'm<00:01:37.200> a<00:01:37.360> modern<00:01:37.680> guy,
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  bring that up, but I'm a modern guy,
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  bring that up, but I'm a modern guy, right?
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  right?
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  right? Correct.<00:01:39.439> Sometimes<00:01:39.840> it's<00:01:40.079> also<00:01:40.400> about<00:01:40.640> the
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  Correct. Sometimes it's also about the
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  Correct. Sometimes it's also about the audience<00:01:41.360> that<00:01:42.159> you<00:01:42.320> know<00:01:42.560> sometimes<00:01:42.960> it<00:01:43.200> can
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  audience that you know sometimes it can
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  audience that you know sometimes it can yeah<00:01:44.000> I<00:01:44.240> know<00:01:44.479> I<00:01:44.640> I'm<00:01:44.880> in<00:01:45.119> business<00:01:45.600> so<00:01:45.920> so<00:01:46.079> to
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  yeah I know I I'm in business so so to
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  yeah I know I I'm in business so so to me<00:01:46.479> it's<00:01:46.720> not<00:01:46.880> important<00:01:47.360> to<00:01:47.600> say<00:01:48.479> but<00:01:48.799> if<00:01:48.960> you
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  me it's not important to say but if you
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  me it's not important to say but if you wanted<00:01:49.439> me<00:01:49.600> to<00:01:49.759> avoid<00:01:50.159> saying<00:01:50.640> specifically
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  wanted me to avoid saying specifically
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  wanted me to avoid saying specifically boy<00:01:51.520> then<00:01:51.680> I<00:01:51.840> could<00:01:51.920> just<00:01:52.079> say<00:01:52.320> it<00:01:52.479> was<00:01:52.640> because
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  boy then I could just say it was because
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  boy then I could just say it was because the<00:01:53.119> love<00:01:53.280> of<00:01:53.439> my<00:01:53.680> life<00:01:54.159> end<00:01:54.960> you<00:01:55.040> know<00:01:55.200> if<00:01:55.360> we
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  the love of my life end you know if we
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  the love of my life end you know if we lose<00:01:56.000> lose<00:01:56.320> certain<00:01:56.720> audience<00:01:57.200> members
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  lose lose certain audience members
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  lose lose certain audience members because<00:01:57.840> of<00:01:58.000> that<00:01:58.640> so<00:01:58.799> be<00:01:59.040> it
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  because of that so be it
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  because of that so be it fully<00:02:01.119> okay<00:02:01.600> fully<00:02:01.920> okay<00:02:02.320> I<00:02:02.479> just<00:02:02.640> wanted<00:02:02.880> to
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  fully okay fully okay I just wanted to
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  fully okay fully okay I just wanted to uh<00:02:03.759> to
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  uh to
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  you and your life um are a lot more
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  you and your life um are a lot more important<00:02:08.319> to<00:02:08.560> me<00:02:08.879> and<00:02:09.920> uh<00:02:10.080> people<00:02:10.399> who<00:02:11.200> have
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  important to me and uh people who have
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  important to me and uh people who have troubles<00:02:12.000> with<00:02:13.280> um<00:02:13.760> anywhere<00:02:14.239> between<00:02:14.800> 7<00:02:15.040> and
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  troubles with um anywhere between 7 and
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  12% something like that. Would you put
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  12% something like that. Would you put it<00:02:18.000> there?
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  it there?
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  it there? Yeah,<00:02:20.000> I<00:02:20.239> I<00:02:20.640> tend<00:02:20.879> to<00:02:21.040> say<00:02:21.280> roughly<00:02:21.599> 10%
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  Yeah, I I tend to say roughly 10%
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  Yeah, I I tend to say roughly 10% statistically.<00:02:24.239> Uh<00:02:24.879> and<00:02:25.440> that<00:02:26.000> also<00:02:26.560> even
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  statistically. Uh and that also even
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  statistically. Uh and that also even counts<00:02:27.440> the<00:02:27.760> Arabic<00:02:28.400> countries<00:02:29.360> there.<00:02:29.680> It's
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  counts the Arabic countries there. It's
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  counts the Arabic countries there. It's just<00:02:30.160> a<00:02:30.400> little<00:02:30.480> bit<00:02:30.959> more<00:02:31.200> difficult<00:02:31.520> to<00:02:31.760> be
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  just a little bit more difficult to be
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  just a little bit more difficult to be open<00:02:32.480> about<00:02:32.720> it.<00:02:34.000> But
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  open about it. But
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  my own I came out very late in my life.
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  my own I came out very late in my life. Uh<00:02:39.120> so<00:02:39.360> so<00:02:39.680> to<00:02:39.920> me<00:02:40.560> you<00:02:40.800> can<00:02:40.959> say<00:02:41.120> I<00:02:41.440> knew<00:02:41.680> who<00:02:41.920> I
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  Uh so so to me you can say I knew who I
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  Uh so so to me you can say I knew who I was<00:02:42.560> when<00:02:42.879> I<00:02:43.200> chose<00:02:43.519> to<00:02:43.840> come<00:02:44.000> out<00:02:44.160> and<00:02:44.400> get<00:02:44.640> a
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  was when I chose to come out and get a
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  was when I chose to come out and get a divorce<00:02:45.200> from<00:02:45.360> my<00:02:45.519> my<00:02:45.599> my<00:02:46.080> ex-wife<00:02:46.800> etc.<00:02:47.360> So<00:02:48.239> I
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  divorce from my my my ex-wife etc. So I
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  divorce from my my my ex-wife etc. So I don't<00:02:48.720> think<00:02:48.879> the<00:02:49.120> process<00:02:49.599> about<00:02:50.000> coming<00:02:50.239> out
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  don't think the process about coming out
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  don't think the process about coming out is<00:02:50.720> different<00:02:51.040> whether<00:02:51.360> you're<00:02:51.599> young<00:02:51.920> or<00:02:52.160> you
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  is different whether you're young or you
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  is different whether you're young or you are<00:02:52.480> old.<00:02:53.200> There<00:02:53.440> might<00:02:53.599> be<00:02:53.760> some
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  are old. There might be some
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  are old. There might be some circumstances<00:02:54.720> in<00:02:54.959> your<00:02:55.120> life<00:02:55.280> that<00:02:55.519> are
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  circumstances in your life that are
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  different where you can say I knew who I
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  different where you can say I knew who I was<00:02:59.040> and<00:02:59.280> I<00:02:59.519> was<00:02:59.920> that<00:03:00.080> was<00:03:00.319> not<00:03:00.560> my<00:03:00.720> my<00:03:01.200> take<00:03:01.440> on
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  was and I was that was not my my take on
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  was and I was that was not my my take on it.<00:03:02.080> My<00:03:02.319> take<00:03:02.560> was<00:03:02.879> more<00:03:03.200> all<00:03:03.440> my<00:03:03.680> connections
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  it. My take was more all my connections
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  it. My take was more all my connections my<00:03:04.560> family<00:03:05.120> my<00:03:05.200> my<00:03:05.519> ex-wife<00:03:06.800> etc.<00:03:07.440> There<00:03:07.599> was<00:03:07.680> a
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  my family my my ex-wife etc. There was a
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  my family my my ex-wife etc. There was a lot<00:03:08.000> more<00:03:08.239> about<00:03:08.400> that<00:03:08.720> where<00:03:08.959> you<00:03:09.120> can<00:03:09.280> say
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  lot more about that where you can say
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  lot more about that where you can say when<00:03:09.599> you<00:03:09.760> are<00:03:09.920> young<00:03:10.080> and<00:03:10.319> coming<00:03:10.560> out<00:03:11.599> let's
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  when you are young and coming out let's
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  when you are young and coming out let's say<00:03:12.080> 15<00:03:12.560> 16<00:03:13.599> then<00:03:13.920> you<00:03:14.080> have<00:03:14.239> not<00:03:14.480> defined
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  say 15 16 then you have not defined
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  say 15 16 then you have not defined yourself.<00:03:15.599> So<00:03:15.840> there<00:03:16.080> you're<00:03:16.319> not<00:03:16.480> so<00:03:16.800> worried
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  yourself. So there you're not so worried
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  yourself. So there you're not so worried about
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  about
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  necessarily your friends because some of
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  necessarily your friends because some of them<00:03:21.040> already<00:03:21.440> know<00:03:22.480> uh<00:03:23.040> there<00:03:23.440> is<00:03:23.599> more<00:03:24.000> about
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  them already know uh there is more about
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  them already know uh there is more about a<00:03:24.720> a<00:03:25.040> selfidentity
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  a a selfidentity
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  uh thing. To me it was not a
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  uh thing. To me it was not a selfidentity<00:03:28.959> thing.<00:03:29.200> I<00:03:29.440> knew<00:03:29.599> what<00:03:29.920> what<00:03:30.239> I
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  selfidentity thing. I knew what what I
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  selfidentity thing. I knew what what I stood<00:03:30.640> for<00:03:30.959> workwise<00:03:31.519> and<00:03:31.760> I<00:03:31.920> knew<00:03:32.080> what<00:03:32.159> I
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  stood for workwise and I knew what I
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  stood for workwise and I knew what I stood<00:03:32.560> for.<00:03:32.799> So<00:03:32.959> to<00:03:33.120> me<00:03:33.280> it<00:03:33.519> was<00:03:33.680> more<00:03:34.319> all<00:03:35.120> the
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  stood for. So to me it was more all the
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  stood for. So to me it was more all the consequences<00:03:36.319> of<00:03:37.120> being<00:03:37.440> real<00:03:37.680> to<00:03:37.920> myself
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  consequences of being real to myself
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  consequences of being real to myself that<00:03:38.959> was<00:03:39.519> uh<00:03:40.480> filling<00:03:40.879> up<00:03:41.040> my<00:03:41.280> mind<00:03:41.599> you<00:03:41.840> can
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  that was uh filling up my mind you can
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  that was uh filling up my mind you can say.<00:03:43.440> I<00:03:43.760> want<00:03:43.840> to<00:03:44.000> be<00:03:44.159> clear<00:03:44.400> here<00:03:44.640> that<00:03:44.959> Peter
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  say. I want to be clear here that Peter
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  isn't struggling with his identity. He's
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  isn't struggling with his identity. He's wrestling<00:03:48.640> with<00:03:48.799> the<00:03:49.040> impact<00:03:49.280> that<00:03:49.680> living
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  wrestling with the impact that living
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  he cares about and even our audience.
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  circumstances might be completely
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  So interesting. I wish we I wish this
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  was the topic. Can we make this the
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  was the topic. Can we make this the topic?
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  topic?
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  The only thing I reason why I brought it
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  audience then you can always rephrase
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  obvious that that's the case. I
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  that. Uh so so I'm rather flexible in
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  like, why do I have to know about this?
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  obviously in the gay community than it
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  that I just finished watching a movie.
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  about a family I think they're Americans
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  film do you know what I'm talking about
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  Who's the boy?
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  Who's the boy? Yes.
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  know the movie.
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  Call Me By Your Name.
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  Okay. Let me express myself better. You<00:06:51.440> know,<00:06:51.520> for<00:06:51.759> me,<00:06:52.000> I<00:06:52.319> have<00:06:52.400> a<00:06:53.199> hard<00:06:53.440> time
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  caress each other like that, right?
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  I think, you know, what's the problem?
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  I think, you know, what's the problem? It's<00:07:03.599> not<00:07:03.759> like<00:07:03.919> they<00:07:04.080> had,<00:07:04.400> you<00:07:04.560> know,<00:07:04.720> rough
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  It's not like they had, you know, rough
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  sex in front of me.
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  sex in front of me. Um,<00:07:07.440> but<00:07:08.160> I<00:07:09.039> I<00:07:09.199> guess<00:07:09.360> it's<00:07:09.680> the<00:07:10.240> socializing
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  that I've had as a child. Um, that that
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  produces that for me.
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  really important film and it was
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  really important film and it was excellently<00:07:22.160> done<00:07:22.479> from<00:07:22.800> from<00:07:23.120> my
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  excellently done from from my
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  excellently done from from my perspective.
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  perspective.
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  liked so much about it was the
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  liked so much about it was the ambiguity.
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  ambiguity.
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  ambiguity. Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  understandings and
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  all of that going on. And uh also I I
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  all of that going on. And uh also I I felt<00:07:40.560> the<00:07:40.800> parents<00:07:41.120> were<00:07:41.360> quite<00:07:41.599> liberal
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  felt the parents were quite liberal
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  felt the parents were quite liberal and<00:07:43.039> I'm<00:07:43.280> sure<00:07:43.599> they<00:07:43.919> understood
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  and I'm sure they understood
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  and I'm sure they understood what<00:07:45.120> was<00:07:45.360> going<00:07:45.520> on<00:07:46.319> and<00:07:46.800> at<00:07:46.880> least<00:07:47.120> the
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  what was going on and at least the
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  what was going on and at least the mother.
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  mother.
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  mother. Yeah.<00:07:48.639> Um<00:07:49.360> and<00:07:49.599> I<00:07:49.759> think<00:07:49.919> also<00:07:50.160> the<00:07:51.440> actually
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  Yeah. Um and I think also the actually
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  there is in the end of the film there is
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  there is in the end of the film there is a<00:07:55.919> scene<00:07:56.400> where<00:07:56.800> the<00:07:57.120> father<00:07:58.080> of<00:07:58.720> the<00:07:59.039> younger
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  a scene where the father of the younger
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  a scene where the father of the younger guy
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  guy
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  Shalame is having a talk in a sofa uh on
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  Shalame is having a talk in a sofa uh on a<00:08:05.039> couch<00:08:06.479> uh<00:08:07.039> where<00:08:07.680> that<00:08:07.919> is<00:08:08.240> actually<00:08:09.520> an
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  a couch uh where that is actually an
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  a couch uh where that is actually an extremely<00:08:10.639> if<00:08:10.960> you<00:08:11.280> listen<00:08:11.599> to<00:08:11.919> what<00:08:12.319> the
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  extremely if you listen to what the
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  father is actually telling then that is
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  father is actually telling then that is an<00:08:15.599> extremely<00:08:16.160> important<00:08:16.639> dialogue.<00:08:18.000> uh<00:08:18.319> they
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  an extremely important dialogue. uh they
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  an extremely important dialogue. uh they are<00:08:18.720> having<00:08:19.039> because<00:08:19.520> basically<00:08:20.080> what<00:08:20.319> the
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  are having because basically what the
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  father says that he questioned his own
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  father says that he questioned his own sexuality<00:08:23.440> when<00:08:23.680> he<00:08:23.840> was<00:08:24.000> young.<00:08:24.639> The<00:08:24.879> only
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  sexuality when he was young. The only
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  thing he basically want for his kid
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  thing he basically want for his kid which<00:08:27.280> I<00:08:27.520> think<00:08:27.759> should<00:08:28.080> be<00:08:28.319> the<00:08:28.800> goal<00:08:29.039> for<00:08:29.199> any
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  which I think should be the goal for any
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  which I think should be the goal for any parent<00:08:30.160> is<00:08:30.879> whatever<00:08:31.280> they<00:08:31.520> do<00:08:31.759> as<00:08:32.000> long<00:08:32.080> as
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  parent is whatever they do as long as
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  parent is whatever they do as long as they<00:08:32.399> are<00:08:32.560> happy<00:08:33.120> and<00:08:33.519> not<00:08:33.760> hurting<00:08:34.080> anybody
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  they are happy and not hurting anybody
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  they are happy and not hurting anybody else<00:08:35.120> then<00:08:35.599> do<00:08:36.000> whatever<00:08:36.560> they<00:08:36.800> want<00:08:36.959> to<00:08:37.120> do<00:08:38.000> as
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  else then do whatever they want to do as
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  else then do whatever they want to do as long<00:08:38.479> as<00:08:38.640> they<00:08:38.800> are<00:08:38.959> happy.
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  long as they are happy.
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  long as they are happy. So<00:08:40.479> and<00:08:40.640> and<00:08:40.719> and<00:08:41.440> it<00:08:41.839> is<00:08:41.919> just<00:08:42.080> a<00:08:42.320> good<00:08:42.560> movie
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  So and and and it is just a good movie
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  uh for many reasons. Yeah, it's a good
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  uh for many reasons. Yeah, it's a good movie.<00:08:45.440> And<00:08:45.600> and<00:08:45.680> and<00:08:46.080> coming<00:08:46.399> back<00:08:46.560> to<00:08:46.720> what
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  movie. And and and coming back to what
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  movie. And and and coming back to what you<00:08:47.200> said<00:08:47.440> in<00:08:47.760> the<00:08:47.920> beginning,<00:08:48.240> Michael,<00:08:48.800> then
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  you said in the beginning, Michael, then
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  you said in the beginning, Michael, then you<00:08:49.200> can<00:08:49.360> also<00:08:49.600> say<00:08:49.920> I<00:08:50.000> I<00:08:50.320> heard<00:08:50.560> it<00:08:50.800> phrased
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  you can also say I I heard it phrased
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  you can also say I I heard it phrased because<00:08:52.000> you<00:08:52.240> touched<00:08:52.560> a<00:08:52.800> sub<00:08:53.200> subject
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  because you touched a sub subject
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  because you touched a sub subject relating<00:08:54.160> to<00:08:54.800> this<00:08:55.120> that<00:08:55.279> that<00:08:55.839> it<00:08:56.080> is<00:08:56.320> not
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  relating to this that that it is not
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  relating to this that that it is not common<00:08:57.120> to<00:08:57.440> see<00:08:58.240> gay<00:08:58.560> or<00:08:58.880> gayish<00:08:59.920> movies<00:09:01.040> where
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  common to see gay or gayish movies where
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  common to see gay or gayish movies where you<00:09:01.600> can<00:09:01.760> say<00:09:03.120> our<00:09:03.519> generation<00:09:04.800> has<00:09:05.120> been
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  you can say our generation has been
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  you can say our generation has been brought<00:09:05.680> up<00:09:06.000> where<00:09:06.320> that<00:09:06.640> was<00:09:06.800> not<00:09:06.880> a<00:09:07.120> part<00:09:07.200> of
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  brought up where that was not a part of
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  our childhood. It was not what you saw
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  our childhood. It was not what you saw uh<00:09:11.040> in<00:09:11.200> the<00:09:11.440> movies<00:09:11.839> because<00:09:12.240> it<00:09:12.560> wasn't
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  uh in the movies because it wasn't
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  uh in the movies because it wasn't there.<00:09:13.760> Uh<00:09:14.560> so<00:09:14.880> it<00:09:15.200> also<00:09:15.600> means<00:09:16.000> that<00:09:16.320> that
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  there. Uh so it also means that that
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  there. Uh so it also means that that even<00:09:18.720> though<00:09:19.760> gay<00:09:20.320> community<00:09:20.800> has<00:09:21.120> always
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  even though gay community has always
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  even though gay community has always been<00:09:21.680> there<00:09:22.399> then<00:09:22.640> you<00:09:22.800> can<00:09:22.880> say<00:09:23.120> it's<00:09:23.360> just
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  been there then you can say it's just
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  been there then you can say it's just recently<00:09:24.080> that<00:09:24.320> they're<00:09:24.640> there<00:09:24.880> and<00:09:25.040> then<00:09:25.920> I
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  recently that they're there and then I
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  recently that they're there and then I heard<00:09:26.320> the<00:09:26.560> phrase<00:09:26.800> so<00:09:27.040> that<00:09:27.200> that<00:09:27.839> okay<00:09:28.720> so
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  heard the phrase so that that okay so
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  heard the phrase so that that okay so you<00:09:29.200> are<00:09:29.440> telling<00:09:29.760> me<00:09:30.240> that<00:09:30.720> gay<00:09:31.279> shouldn't
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  you are telling me that gay shouldn't
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  you are telling me that gay shouldn't flash<00:09:32.480> their<00:09:32.800> sexuality<00:09:34.240> but<00:09:34.720> haven't
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  flash their sexuality but haven't
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  flash their sexuality but haven't heterosexual<00:09:36.160> been<00:09:36.399> doing<00:09:36.640> that<00:09:37.360> for<00:09:38.160> ever
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  heterosexual been doing that for ever
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  heterosexual been doing that for ever and<00:09:39.120> and<00:09:39.440> you<00:09:39.680> can't<00:09:40.000> expect<00:09:41.440> the<00:09:41.680> gay
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  and and you can't expect the gay
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  and and you can't expect the gay community<00:09:42.560> to<00:09:42.880> do<00:09:43.040> it<00:09:43.360> like<00:09:43.680> the<00:09:43.920> heterosexual
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  community to do it like the heterosexual
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  community to do it like the heterosexual community.<00:09:45.040> And<00:09:45.200> that's<00:09:45.440> where<00:09:46.240> a<00:09:46.480> lot<00:09:46.640> of<00:09:47.519> u
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  community. And that's where a lot of u
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  community. And that's where a lot of u consternation<00:09:49.200> comes<00:09:49.440> in<00:09:49.839> for<00:09:50.800> the<00:09:51.360> very
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  consternation comes in for the very
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  consternation comes in for the very conservative
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  conservative
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  um straight crowd. It's like why do they
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  um straight crowd. It's like why do they have<00:09:56.000> to<00:09:56.240> do<00:09:56.480> it<00:09:56.640> like<00:09:56.959> this?<00:09:57.839> Why<00:09:58.080> can't<00:09:58.320> they
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  have to do it like this? Why can't they
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  have to do it like this? Why can't they be<00:09:58.720> more<00:09:58.880> normal?<00:09:59.440> Well,<00:09:59.760> they<00:10:00.000> are<00:10:00.160> normal
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  be more normal? Well, they are normal
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  be more normal? Well, they are normal for<00:10:00.800> themselves,<00:10:01.760> right?
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  for themselves, right?
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  for themselves, right? Exactly.
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  Exactly.
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  Exactly. It<00:10:03.839> it's<00:10:04.480> uh
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  It it's uh
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  so you you you can say and then we can
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  so you you you can say and then we can stop<00:10:07.440> and<00:10:07.680> then<00:10:08.000> go<00:10:08.160> on<00:10:08.399> with<00:10:09.279> what<00:10:09.440> we<00:10:09.600> also
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  stop and then go on with what we also
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  stop and then go on with what we also should<00:10:10.080> talk<00:10:10.240> about.<00:10:10.480> But<00:10:10.560> but<00:10:10.720> it's<00:10:10.880> just
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  should talk about. But but it's just
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  should talk about. But but it's just interesting.<00:10:12.080> I<00:10:12.399> we<00:10:12.720> should<00:10:12.959> consider<00:10:13.680> the
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  interesting. I we should consider the
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  interesting. I we should consider the constraint
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  constraint
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  um that you have had as a gay man in the
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  um that you have had as a gay man in the business<00:10:20.079> world.<00:10:20.880> Is<00:10:21.120> that<00:10:21.279> an<00:10:21.600> interesting
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  business world. Is that an interesting
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  business world. Is that an interesting topic<00:10:22.480> for<00:10:22.720> you?
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  topic for you?
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  To be quite honest, I have not
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  To be quite honest, I have not experienced<00:10:27.600> it<00:10:28.000> at<00:10:28.320> all.
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  experienced it at all.
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  experienced it at all. Wow.<00:10:30.720> So,<00:10:30.959> so,<00:10:31.279> so<00:10:31.839> to<00:10:32.079> me<00:10:32.320> it<00:10:32.560> was<00:10:32.640> not<00:10:32.800> an
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  Wow. So, so, so to me it was not an
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  Wow. So, so, so to me it was not an issue.<00:10:33.360> You<00:10:33.600> can<00:10:33.680> say<00:10:33.920> if<00:10:34.160> if<00:10:34.560> I<00:10:34.880> look<00:10:35.200> into<00:10:35.760> my
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  issue. You can say if if I look into my
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  issue. You can say if if I look into my current<00:10:36.399> job<00:10:36.640> here<00:10:36.800> in<00:10:36.959> Germany,<00:10:38.399> then<00:10:38.720> you
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  current job here in Germany, then you
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  current job here in Germany, then you can<00:10:39.040> say<00:10:39.680> the<00:10:40.000> only<00:10:40.399> reaction<00:10:40.959> I<00:10:41.360> got<00:10:41.760> was<00:10:42.320> from
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  can say the only reaction I got was from
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  can say the only reaction I got was from one<00:10:42.880> of<00:10:42.959> our<00:10:43.200> warehouse<00:10:43.760> workers<00:10:44.720> when<00:10:44.959> I
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  one of our warehouse workers when I
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  one of our warehouse workers when I started<00:10:45.519> here<00:10:46.320> and<00:10:46.480> and<00:10:46.880> the<00:10:47.040> owner<00:10:47.279> of<00:10:47.360> the
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  started here and and the owner of the
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  started here and and the owner of the business<00:10:47.760> was<00:10:48.000> down<00:10:48.240> here<00:10:48.480> presenting<00:10:48.880> me<00:10:49.040> as
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  business was down here presenting me as
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  business was down here presenting me as the<00:10:49.440> new<00:10:49.600> managing<00:10:50.079> director<00:10:50.399> or<00:10:50.720> Gishu<00:10:51.279> as
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  the new managing director or Gishu as
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  the new managing director or Gishu as they<00:10:51.600> call<00:10:51.760> here<00:10:51.920> in<00:10:52.079> Germany.
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  they call here in Germany.
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  they call here in Germany. Yeah.<00:10:53.040> uh<00:10:53.200> then<00:10:53.440> you<00:10:53.600> can<00:10:53.760> say<00:10:54.399> uh<00:10:54.720> he
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  Yeah. uh then you can say uh he
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  introduced me and then I gave a short
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  introduced me and then I gave a short introduction<00:10:57.279> of<00:10:57.519> myself<00:10:58.079> and<00:10:58.240> and<00:10:58.800> uh<00:10:58.959> told
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  introduction of myself and and uh told
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  introduction of myself and and uh told them<00:10:59.440> who<00:10:59.680> I<00:10:59.839> am<00:11:00.079> and<00:11:00.480> uh<00:11:01.040> and<00:11:01.360> then<00:11:01.600> I<00:11:01.839> didn't
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  them who I am and uh and then I didn't
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  them who I am and uh and then I didn't hide<00:11:02.320> it<00:11:02.560> because<00:11:02.880> I<00:11:03.120> said<00:11:03.440> I<00:11:03.760> that<00:11:04.079> I<00:11:04.320> was
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  hide it because I said I that I was
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  hide it because I said I that I was together<00:11:04.959> with<00:11:05.200> my<00:11:05.360> boyfriend<00:11:05.839> living<00:11:06.079> in
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  together with my boyfriend living in
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  together with my boyfriend living in Melbourne<00:11:07.680> and<00:11:07.839> then<00:11:08.000> I<00:11:08.320> remember<00:11:08.800> that<00:11:09.200> that
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  Melbourne and then I remember that that
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  Melbourne and then I remember that that uh<00:11:10.720> shortly<00:11:11.120> after<00:11:11.360> that<00:11:11.760> I<00:11:12.000> had<00:11:12.320> individual
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  uh shortly after that I had individual
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  uh shortly after that I had individual talks<00:11:13.360> with<00:11:13.680> all<00:11:13.920> employees<00:11:14.480> in<00:11:14.720> our<00:11:14.959> company
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  talks with all employees in our company
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  talks with all employees in our company just<00:11:15.440> to<00:11:15.680> get<00:11:15.760> to<00:11:15.920> know<00:11:16.320> who<00:11:16.560> are<00:11:16.720> you<00:11:16.959> and<00:11:17.440> etc
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  just to get to know who are you and etc
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  just to get to know who are you and etc etc<00:11:18.480> uh<00:11:18.560> whether<00:11:18.880> it<00:11:19.120> was<00:11:19.279> the<00:11:19.519> warehouse
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  etc uh whether it was the warehouse
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  etc uh whether it was the warehouse employees<00:11:20.399> or<00:11:20.640> whether<00:11:20.880> it<00:11:21.040> was<00:11:21.200> the<00:11:21.680> sales
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  employees or whether it was the sales
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  employees or whether it was the sales director<00:11:22.640> I<00:11:22.880> had<00:11:23.120> individual<00:11:23.600> talk<00:11:23.920> with
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  director I had individual talk with
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  director I had individual talk with anybody<00:11:24.560> in<00:11:24.800> the<00:11:24.959> company.<00:11:25.680> And<00:11:25.839> then<00:11:26.079> one<00:11:26.320> of
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  anybody in the company. And then one of
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  anybody in the company. And then one of the<00:11:26.480> warehouse<00:11:26.880> workers<00:11:27.519> said<00:11:28.079> to<00:11:28.320> me<00:11:28.560> that<00:11:29.120> he
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  the warehouse workers said to me that he
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  the warehouse workers said to me that he was<00:11:29.600> actually<00:11:30.800> how<00:11:30.959> did<00:11:31.120> he<00:11:31.519> express<00:11:31.839> it?<00:11:32.240> He
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  was actually how did he express it? He
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  was actually how did he express it? He he<00:11:32.800> said<00:11:33.040> that<00:11:33.360> that<00:11:33.440> that<00:11:34.079> it<00:11:34.320> was<00:11:35.120> uh<00:11:35.279> a<00:11:35.600> bold
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  he said that that that it was uh a bold
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  he said that that that it was uh a bold move<00:11:36.399> just<00:11:36.640> to<00:11:36.880> say<00:11:37.040> it.<00:11:37.200> And<00:11:37.360> then<00:11:37.440> I<00:11:37.600> said<00:11:37.760> to
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  move just to say it. And then I said to
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  move just to say it. And then I said to him,<00:11:38.079> "Yeah,<00:11:38.320> but<00:11:38.560> but<00:11:39.360> why<00:11:39.680> hide<00:11:40.000> it?"
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  him, "Yeah, but but why hide it?"
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  him, "Yeah, but but why hide it?" Because<00:11:40.959> it's<00:11:41.279> the<00:11:41.519> reality.<00:11:42.000> So<00:11:42.240> whether<00:11:42.480> you
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  Because it's the reality. So whether you
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  Because it's the reality. So whether you find<00:11:42.880> out<00:11:43.600> today<00:11:43.920> or<00:11:44.240> you<00:11:44.399> find<00:11:44.560> out<00:11:44.800> in<00:11:45.040> in<00:11:45.120> in
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  find out today or you find out in in in
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  find out today or you find out in in in you<00:11:46.399> know<00:11:46.640> 2<00:11:46.800> weeks<00:11:47.040> or<00:11:47.360> two<00:11:47.519> months<00:11:48.160> doesn't
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  you know 2 weeks or two months doesn't
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  you know 2 weeks or two months doesn't really<00:11:48.720> matter.<00:11:49.360> And<00:11:49.440> and<00:11:49.680> to<00:11:49.839> him<00:11:50.079> it<00:11:50.320> wasn't
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  really matter. And and to him it wasn't
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  really matter. And and to him it wasn't an<00:11:50.880> issue.<00:11:51.680> Uh<00:11:52.079> it<00:11:52.399> was<00:11:52.560> just<00:11:52.720> that<00:11:52.959> that<00:11:53.600> he
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  an issue. Uh it was just that that he
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  an issue. Uh it was just that that he was<00:11:54.000> the<00:11:54.240> only<00:11:54.399> one<00:11:54.640> actually<00:11:55.040> saying<00:11:55.200> that<00:11:55.440> it
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  was the only one actually saying that it
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  was the only one actually saying that it was<00:11:55.760> a<00:11:55.839> bold<00:11:56.079> move<00:11:56.320> and<00:11:56.480> I<00:11:56.720> said<00:11:57.120> why<00:11:57.440> should
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  was a bold move and I said why should
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  was a bold move and I said why should that<00:11:58.480> be<00:11:58.720> a<00:11:58.880> bold<00:11:59.200> move<00:11:59.600> because<00:11:59.920> to<00:12:00.160> me<00:12:00.320> it's
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  that be a bold move because to me it's
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  that be a bold move because to me it's just<00:12:01.360> you<00:12:01.519> know<00:12:01.760> if<00:12:02.000> I<00:12:02.079> had<00:12:02.240> said<00:12:02.480> my<00:12:02.959> I<00:12:03.040> I<00:12:03.279> lived
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  just you know if I had said my I I lived
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  just you know if I had said my I I lived together<00:12:03.839> with<00:12:04.000> my<00:12:04.160> wife<00:12:04.480> nobody<00:12:04.800> would<00:12:04.959> have
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  together with my wife nobody would have
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  together with my wife nobody would have thought<00:12:05.519> about<00:12:05.760> it
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  thought about it
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  thought about it and<00:12:06.240> that's<00:12:06.399> why<00:12:06.639> I<00:12:06.880> really<00:12:07.120> liked<00:12:07.839> that<00:12:08.160> you
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  and that's why I really liked that you
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  and that's why I really liked that you announced<00:12:08.720> that<00:12:09.120> contextually
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  announced that contextually
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  announced that contextually because<00:12:11.920> that's<00:12:12.160> what<00:12:12.399> I<00:12:12.639> would<00:12:12.800> say<00:12:12.959> I<00:12:13.040> live
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  because that's what I would say I live
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  because that's what I would say I live together<00:12:13.519> with<00:12:13.760> my<00:12:14.000> wife<00:12:14.480> here<00:12:14.800> in<00:12:15.279> in<00:12:15.440> in
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  together with my wife here in in in
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  together with my wife here in in in Barcelona
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  Barcelona
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  Barcelona and<00:12:18.240> or<00:12:18.720> that<00:12:19.360> why<00:12:19.680> do<00:12:19.920> I<00:12:20.079> live<00:12:20.160> here<00:12:20.399> because
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  and or that why do I live here because
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  and or that why do I live here because of<00:12:20.800> Sylvia<00:12:21.120> Yeah,<00:12:21.839> he's<00:12:22.160> actually<00:12:22.560> more
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  of Sylvia Yeah, he's actually more
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  of Sylvia Yeah, he's actually more challenged<00:12:23.600> than<00:12:23.839> I<00:12:24.079> am<00:12:24.639> because<00:12:25.279> he's<00:12:25.920> openly
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  challenged than I am because he's openly
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  challenged than I am because he's openly gay<00:12:27.040> to<00:12:27.360> all<00:12:27.600> of<00:12:27.760> his<00:12:28.000> friends<00:12:28.320> and<00:12:28.480> and<00:12:28.560> and<00:12:28.959> we
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  gay to all of his friends and and and we
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  gay to all of his friends and and and we have<00:12:29.200> met<00:12:29.519> than<00:12:29.680> the<00:12:29.839> blah<00:12:30.079> blah<00:12:30.240> blah<00:12:30.480> blah.
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  have met than the blah blah blah blah.
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  have met than the blah blah blah blah. But<00:12:31.120> his<00:12:31.440> parents<00:12:31.839> and<00:12:32.079> his<00:12:32.399> family,<00:12:32.959> he's
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  But his parents and his family, he's
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  But his parents and his family, he's actually<00:12:33.680> not<00:12:34.000> open<00:12:34.399> towards.<00:12:35.040> So<00:12:35.200> they<00:12:35.440> don't
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  actually not open towards. So they don't
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  actually not open towards. So they don't know<00:12:35.760> I<00:12:36.079> exist<00:12:36.399> and<00:12:36.639> they<00:12:36.880> don't<00:12:37.120> know<00:12:37.279> about
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  know I exist and they don't know about
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  know I exist and they don't know about his<00:12:37.760> sexuality.
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  his sexuality.
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  his sexuality. Oh.
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  Oh.
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  Oh. Um<00:12:40.160> but<00:12:40.399> we've<00:12:40.720> been<00:12:40.800> together<00:12:41.040> for<00:12:41.200> for<00:12:41.279> for
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  Um but we've been together for for for
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  Um but we've been together for for for six<00:12:42.000> years<00:12:42.240> now.<00:12:42.480> So<00:12:42.720> So<00:12:44.000> it's<00:12:44.240> not<00:12:44.399> new.<00:12:45.120> Uh
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  six years now. So So it's not new. Uh
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  six years now. So So it's not new. Uh and<00:12:45.600> we<00:12:45.760> knew<00:12:45.920> it<00:12:46.079> from<00:12:46.320> the<00:12:46.480> beginning.<00:12:47.040> But
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  and we knew it from the beginning. But
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  and we knew it from the beginning. But but but<00:12:47.680> that<00:12:47.920> is<00:12:48.160> actually<00:12:48.560> not<00:12:48.959> because<00:12:49.600> of
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  but but that is actually not because of
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  but but that is actually not because of religious<00:12:51.440> reasons<00:12:52.399> even<00:12:52.639> though<00:12:52.880> he<00:12:53.120> is
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  religious reasons even though he is
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  religious reasons even though he is officially<00:12:54.160> Muslim<00:12:55.040> but<00:12:56.000> it<00:12:56.320> is<00:12:56.560> actually
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  officially Muslim but it is actually
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  officially Muslim but it is actually more<00:12:57.440> of<00:12:57.839> cultural<00:12:58.480> reasons<00:12:59.600> that<00:13:00.320> his<00:13:01.040> much
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  more of cultural reasons that his much
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  more of cultural reasons that his much of<00:13:01.440> his<00:13:01.600> family<00:13:01.920> is<00:13:02.160> still<00:13:02.399> back<00:13:02.560> in<00:13:02.800> Turkey
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  of his family is still back in Turkey
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  of his family is still back in Turkey where<00:13:03.920> and<00:13:04.240> in<00:13:04.399> the<00:13:04.560> in<00:13:04.880> the<00:13:05.600> eastern<00:13:06.079> part<00:13:06.240> of
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  where and in the in the eastern part of
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  where and in the in the eastern part of Turkey<00:13:06.880> where<00:13:07.360> it's<00:13:07.680> more<00:13:08.000> rural<00:13:08.639> country.<00:13:09.279> So
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  Turkey where it's more rural country. So
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  Turkey where it's more rural country. So so<00:13:10.480> to<00:13:10.800> them<00:13:11.279> it<00:13:11.600> is<00:13:12.160> not<00:13:12.480> something<00:13:13.040> they<00:13:13.760> have
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  so to them it is not something they have
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  so to them it is not something they have seen.<00:13:14.480> It's<00:13:14.720> not<00:13:14.959> something<00:13:15.279> they<00:13:15.600> have
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  seen. It's not something they have
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  seen. It's not something they have experienced.<00:13:16.480> It's<00:13:16.720> not<00:13:16.880> something<00:13:17.200> they
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  experienced. It's not something they
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  experienced. It's not something they see.<00:13:18.320> Even<00:13:18.639> though<00:13:18.880> if<00:13:19.120> you<00:13:19.200> go<00:13:19.360> to<00:13:19.519> Istanbul,
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  see. Even though if you go to Istanbul,
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  see. Even though if you go to Istanbul, Istanbul,<00:13:20.800> there's<00:13:20.959> a<00:13:21.120> lot<00:13:21.279> of<00:13:21.360> gay<00:13:21.680> couples.
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  Istanbul, there's a lot of gay couples.
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  Istanbul, there's a lot of gay couples. Uh<00:13:22.639> but<00:13:22.800> but<00:13:22.880> but<00:13:23.360> if<00:13:23.519> you<00:13:23.680> go<00:13:23.839> to<00:13:24.000> the<00:13:24.160> other
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  Uh but but but if you go to the other
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  Uh but but but if you go to the other side<00:13:24.560> of<00:13:24.720> Turkey,<00:13:25.360> then<00:13:25.600> it's<00:13:25.839> not<00:13:25.920> that
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  side of Turkey, then it's not that
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  side of Turkey, then it's not that common.<00:13:26.959> Uh<00:13:27.519> and<00:13:27.680> and<00:13:28.160> they<00:13:28.480> are<00:13:28.720> more
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  common. Uh and and they are more
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  common. Uh and and they are more conservative.<00:13:30.320> So<00:13:31.440> he<00:13:31.760> he's<00:13:32.160> pretty<00:13:32.399> sure<00:13:32.639> his
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  conservative. So he he's pretty sure his
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  conservative. So he he's pretty sure his family<00:13:33.279> would<00:13:33.600> accept,<00:13:34.639> but<00:13:35.040> he's<00:13:35.440> more
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  family would accept, but he's more
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  family would accept, but he's more concerned<00:13:36.560> about<00:13:37.279> the<00:13:37.519> the<00:13:38.399> uh<00:13:38.880> the<00:13:39.600> reaction
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  concerned about the the uh the reaction
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  concerned about the the uh the reaction from<00:13:40.560> his<00:13:41.120> parents'<00:13:41.920> family<00:13:42.880> because<00:13:43.360> there
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  from his parents' family because there
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  from his parents' family because there is<00:13:43.839> a<00:13:44.079> common<00:13:44.399> tendency<00:13:45.200> in<00:13:45.519> these<00:13:45.839> cultures
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  is a common tendency in these cultures
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  is a common tendency in these cultures that<00:13:47.600> whenever<00:13:48.079> there's<00:13:48.480> something<00:13:48.880> odd<00:13:49.760> then
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  that whenever there's something odd then
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  that whenever there's something odd then you<00:13:50.399> expel<00:13:50.880> them<00:13:51.200> from<00:13:51.600> your<00:13:51.839> your<00:13:52.240> friend
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  you expel them from your your friend
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  you expel them from your your friend group<00:13:52.880> and<00:13:53.120> you<00:13:53.360> expel<00:13:53.839> them<00:13:54.079> from<00:13:54.320> your
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  group and you expel them from your
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  group and you expel them from your because<00:13:54.800> you<00:13:55.040> must<00:13:55.200> have<00:13:55.360> done<00:13:55.519> something
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  because you must have done something
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  because you must have done something wrong<00:13:56.160> with<00:13:56.320> your<00:13:56.560> kid<00:13:56.800> because<00:13:57.040> your<00:13:57.360> kid<00:13:57.519> is
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  wrong with your kid because your kid is
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  wrong with your kid because your kid is not<00:13:57.920> normal.<00:13:59.360> M
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  not normal. M
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  not normal. M so<00:14:00.720> so<00:14:00.720> so<00:14:01.519> to<00:14:01.920> to<00:14:02.160> then
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  so so so to to then
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  so so so to to then sounds<00:14:02.720> like<00:14:02.880> the<00:14:03.040> 50s<00:14:03.440> from<00:14:03.680> here.
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  sounds like the 50s from here.
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  sounds like the 50s from here. Sorry.
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  Sorry.
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  Sorry. Sounds<00:14:06.160> like<00:14:06.320> the<00:14:06.560> 50s.<00:14:07.040> The<00:14:07.199> 1950s.
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  Sounds like the 50s. The 1950s.
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  Sounds like the 50s. The 1950s. Exactly.<00:14:08.480> Exactly.<00:14:08.880> But<00:14:09.040> but<00:14:09.120> but<00:14:09.519> also
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  Exactly. Exactly. But but but also
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  Exactly. Exactly. But but but also remember<00:14:10.160> that<00:14:10.399> that<00:14:10.560> that
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  remember that that that
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  remember that that that we<00:14:12.399> are<00:14:12.560> in<00:14:12.880> Europe<00:14:13.199> a<00:14:13.519> lot<00:14:13.680> more<00:14:14.000> educated
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  we are in Europe a lot more educated
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  we are in Europe a lot more educated than<00:14:15.519> the<00:14:15.839> majority<00:14:16.480> of<00:14:16.880> some<00:14:17.120> of<00:14:17.199> the
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  than the majority of some of the
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  than the majority of some of the countries<00:14:17.839> where<00:14:18.160> they<00:14:18.480> have<00:14:18.720> issues<00:14:19.279> with<00:14:20.320> uh
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  countries where they have issues with uh
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  countries where they have issues with uh different<00:14:20.959> sexuality<00:14:21.600> and<00:14:21.920> different
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  different sexuality and different
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  different sexuality and different religions.
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  religions.
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  religions. Sure.<00:14:24.560> Well,<00:14:24.880> now<00:14:25.040> I'm<00:14:25.279> curious<00:14:25.600> how<00:14:26.160> as<00:14:26.399> to
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  Sure. Well, now I'm curious how as to
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  Sure. Well, now I'm curious how as to how<00:14:26.800> Oh,<00:14:27.199> this<00:14:27.440> would<00:14:27.600> come<00:14:27.760> up<00:14:27.920> in<00:14:28.160> your<00:14:28.480> story
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  how Oh, this would come up in your story
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  how Oh, this would come up in your story today<00:14:29.680> because<00:14:30.000> you're<00:14:30.320> going<00:14:30.399> to<00:14:30.480> talk<00:14:30.639> about
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  today because you're going to talk about
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  today because you're going to talk about your<00:14:31.040> boyfriend.
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  your boyfriend.
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  your boyfriend. The<00:14:31.920> original<00:14:32.320> reason<00:14:32.720> why<00:14:33.120> I<00:14:33.600> moved<00:14:34.320> from
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  The original reason why I moved from
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  The original reason why I moved from Ohus<00:14:35.440> to<00:14:36.000> the<00:14:36.160> Copenhagen<00:14:36.880> area<00:14:37.279> and<00:14:37.440> then<00:14:37.600> we
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  Ohus to the Copenhagen area and then we
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  Ohus to the Copenhagen area and then we ended<00:14:38.079> up<00:14:38.160> in<00:14:38.320> in<00:14:38.399> in<00:14:38.959> Malm<00:14:39.839> was<00:14:40.320> actually
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  ended up in in in Malm was actually
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  ended up in in in Malm was actually because<00:14:41.040> my<00:14:41.279> boyfriend<00:14:42.000> uh<00:14:42.160> is<00:14:43.600> working<00:14:43.839> in
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  because my boyfriend uh is working in
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  because my boyfriend uh is working in Copenhagen.<00:14:45.040> So<00:14:45.279> so<00:14:45.519> and<00:14:45.760> he<00:14:46.000> his<00:14:46.399> work<00:14:46.639> cannot
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  Copenhagen. So so and he his work cannot
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  Copenhagen. So so and he his work cannot move<00:14:47.279> from<00:14:47.519> Copen.<00:14:48.320> So,<00:14:48.880> so<00:14:50.160> he<00:14:50.399> had<00:14:50.639> we<00:14:50.880> had
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  move from Copen. So, so he had we had
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  move from Copen. So, so he had we had basically<00:14:51.760> been<00:14:52.000> far<00:14:52.320> distant<00:14:52.720> relationship
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  basically been far distant relationship
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  basically been far distant relationship forth<00:14:53.920> and<00:14:54.160> back<00:14:54.560> at<00:14:54.800> that<00:14:54.959> time<00:14:55.839> 4<00:14:56.079> years.<00:14:56.959> Uh,
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  forth and back at that time 4 years. Uh,
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  forth and back at that time 4 years. Uh, so<00:14:57.839> we<00:14:58.160> wanted<00:14:58.639> something<00:14:58.959> different<00:14:59.279> for<00:14:59.519> us
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  so we wanted something different for us
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  so we wanted something different for us uh<00:15:00.399> to<00:15:00.639> be<00:15:00.800> able<00:15:01.040> to<00:15:01.440> limp<00:15:01.839> more<00:15:02.079> together<00:15:02.959> uh
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  uh to be able to limp more together uh
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  uh to be able to limp more together uh and<00:15:03.360> not<00:15:03.680> with<00:15:04.320> 300<00:15:04.800> km<00:15:05.279> in<00:15:05.519> between<00:15:05.839> us.
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  and not with 300 km in between us.
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  and not with 300 km in between us. So,<00:15:07.440> so<00:15:07.680> you<00:15:07.920> were<00:15:08.000> living<00:15:08.160> in<00:15:08.320> Orus.
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  So, so you were living in Orus.
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  So, so you were living in Orus. Yes.<00:15:10.000> And<00:15:10.160> he<00:15:10.320> was<00:15:10.399> living<00:15:10.560> in<00:15:10.720> Copen.
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  Yes. And he was living in Copen.
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  Yes. And he was living in Copen. He<00:15:12.320> was<00:15:12.480> actually<00:15:12.720> living<00:15:12.959> in<00:15:13.199> Copen,<00:15:14.000> but<00:15:14.240> we
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  He was actually living in Copen, but we
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  He was actually living in Copen, but we chose<00:15:14.720> to<00:15:14.880> to<00:15:15.040> to<00:15:15.519> move<00:15:15.680> to<00:15:15.839> Melbourne.<00:15:16.639> And
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  chose to to to move to Melbourne. And
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  chose to to to move to Melbourne. And that's<00:15:17.680> I'll<00:15:18.000> not<00:15:18.160> mention<00:15:18.399> but<00:15:18.639> that<00:15:18.800> was<00:15:18.959> for
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  that's I'll not mention but that was for
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  that's I'll not mention but that was for the<00:15:19.279> private<00:15:19.680> reason<00:15:20.160> that<00:15:20.480> he<00:15:20.720> is<00:15:20.959> not<00:15:21.120> open
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  the private reason that he is not open
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  the private reason that he is not open to<00:15:21.600> his<00:15:22.160> family<00:15:22.560> in<00:15:22.800> Copenhagen.<00:15:24.000> So<00:15:24.240> it<00:15:24.639> is<00:15:24.800> a
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  to his family in Copenhagen. So it is a
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  to his family in Copenhagen. So it is a lot<00:15:25.120> easier<00:15:25.440> for<00:15:25.680> us<00:15:25.839> to<00:15:26.079> be<00:15:26.639> you<00:15:26.800> know<00:15:27.120> walking
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  lot easier for us to be you know walking
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  lot easier for us to be you know walking in<00:15:27.760> the<00:15:27.920> park<00:15:28.639> etc<00:15:28.880> in<00:15:29.040> Melbour<00:15:29.680> than<00:15:29.839> it<00:15:30.000> is<00:15:30.160> in
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  in the park etc in Melbour than it is in
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  in the park etc in Melbour than it is in Copenhagen<00:15:30.959> because<00:15:31.199> if<00:15:31.440> we<00:15:31.760> meet<00:15:32.000> his<00:15:32.240> family
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  Copenhagen because if we meet his family
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  Copenhagen because if we meet his family then<00:15:33.120> who<00:15:33.360> the<00:15:33.519> [ __ ]<00:15:33.680> am<00:15:33.839> I<00:15:34.880> because<00:15:35.120> they
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  then who the [ __ ] am I because they
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  then who the [ __ ] am I because they don't<00:15:35.519> know<00:15:35.680> I<00:15:36.000> exist.
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  don't know I exist.
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  don't know I exist. Okay,<00:15:37.839> now<00:15:38.079> I<00:15:38.320> get<00:15:38.399> it.
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  Okay, now I get it.
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  Okay, now I get it. So<00:15:39.519> So<00:15:39.680> that<00:15:39.920> was<00:15:40.000> the<00:15:40.160> reason<00:15:40.399> why<00:15:40.639> we<00:15:40.800> we<00:15:40.880> we
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  So So that was the reason why we we we
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  So So that was the reason why we we we pushed<00:15:41.600> it<00:15:41.760> a<00:15:41.920> little<00:15:42.079> further.
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  pushed it a little further.
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  pushed it a little further. Okay.<00:15:43.120> So<00:15:43.360> he<00:15:43.600> commutes<00:15:44.000> over<00:15:44.160> the<00:15:44.320> the
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  Okay. So he commutes over the the
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  Okay. So he commutes over the the bridge.<00:15:45.040> Does<00:15:45.199> he<00:15:45.360> take<00:15:45.519> the<00:15:45.680> train<00:15:45.920> every
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  bridge. Does he take the train every
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  bridge. Does he take the train every morning<00:15:46.320> to<00:15:46.560> work?
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  morning to work?
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  morning to work? Yes.
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  One thing I really appreciate about
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  One thing I really appreciate about Peter<00:15:53.440> is<00:15:53.680> that<00:15:53.839> he<00:15:54.160> never<00:15:54.399> presents<00:15:54.880> this<00:15:55.120> as
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  Peter is that he never presents this as
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  Peter is that he never presents this as a<00:15:55.519> career<00:15:55.839> move<00:15:56.240> first.<00:15:57.120> The<00:15:57.360> job<00:15:57.680> mattered,
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  a career move first. The job mattered,
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  a career move first. The job mattered, of<00:15:58.240> course,<00:15:58.639> but<00:15:58.880> the<00:15:59.040> real<00:15:59.279> decision<00:15:59.680> started
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  of course, but the real decision started
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  of course, but the real decision started with<00:16:00.320> his<00:16:00.639> personal<00:16:01.040> life.<00:16:01.920> That's<00:16:02.160> a<00:16:02.320> useful
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  with his personal life. That's a useful
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  with his personal life. That's a useful reminder<00:16:03.440> because<00:16:03.759> many<00:16:04.000> of<00:16:04.160> us<00:16:04.399> spend<00:16:04.639> so
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  reminder because many of us spend so
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  reminder because many of us spend so much<00:16:05.199> time<00:16:05.519> optimizing<00:16:06.160> our<00:16:06.480> careers<00:16:07.279> that<00:16:07.600> we
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  much time optimizing our careers that we
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  much time optimizing our careers that we forget<00:16:08.240> we're<00:16:08.560> actually<00:16:08.959> building<00:16:09.279> a<00:16:09.519> life,
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  forget we're actually building a life,
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  forget we're actually building a life, not<00:16:10.560> just<00:16:10.720> a<00:16:10.959> resume.
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  not just a resume.
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  not just a resume. I<00:16:13.519> was<00:16:13.839> in<00:16:14.079> a<00:16:14.320> position<00:16:14.880> where<00:16:15.279> I<00:16:15.680> my<00:16:15.839> my<00:16:16.399> job<00:16:16.720> in
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  I was in a position where I my my job in
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  I was in a position where I my my job in almost<00:16:17.519> ended.<00:16:18.079> Uh<00:16:18.399> and<00:16:18.959> uh<00:16:19.199> I<00:16:19.519> had<00:16:19.759> the
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  almost ended. Uh and uh I had the
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  almost ended. Uh and uh I had the possibility<00:16:20.560> to<00:16:20.800> take<00:16:21.040> my<00:16:21.279> life<00:16:21.759> up<00:16:22.000> for<00:16:22.399> a
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  possibility to take my life up for a
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  possibility to take my life up for a renewed<00:16:24.160> view<00:16:24.880> basically.<00:16:25.519> And<00:16:25.680> then<00:16:26.240> uh<00:16:26.480> for
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  renewed view basically. And then uh for
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  renewed view basically. And then uh for 4<00:16:27.040> years<00:16:27.279> my<00:16:27.440> my<00:16:27.839> boyfriend<00:16:28.480> uh<00:16:28.720> and<00:16:29.120> me<00:16:29.360> had
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  4 years my my boyfriend uh and me had
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  4 years my my boyfriend uh and me had been<00:16:29.759> commuting<00:16:30.480> between<00:16:30.880> Copenhagen<00:16:31.600> and
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  been commuting between Copenhagen and
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  been commuting between Copenhagen and and
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  and
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  and uh<00:16:34.240> then<00:16:34.720> we<00:16:35.360> jointly<00:16:35.920> chose<00:16:36.240> that<00:16:36.399> we<00:16:36.639> wanted
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  uh then we jointly chose that we wanted
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  uh then we jointly chose that we wanted to<00:16:36.959> move<00:16:37.199> together<00:16:37.920> uh<00:16:38.000> and<00:16:38.320> actually<00:16:38.639> live
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  to move together uh and actually live
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  to move together uh and actually live the<00:16:39.199> same<00:16:39.360> place.<00:16:40.079> Uh<00:16:40.320> and<00:16:40.560> then<00:16:40.720> we<00:16:41.360> for
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  the same place. Uh and then we for
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  the same place. Uh and then we for different<00:16:41.839> reason<00:16:42.240> ended<00:16:42.480> up<00:16:42.560> in<00:16:42.720> Melmouth<00:16:43.199> a
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  different reason ended up in Melmouth a
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  different reason ended up in Melmouth a little<00:16:43.519> further<00:16:43.759> than<00:16:44.000> Copenhagen<00:16:44.639> but<00:16:44.800> but
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  little further than Copenhagen but but
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  little further than Copenhagen but but that<00:16:45.279> was<00:16:45.440> actually<00:16:45.759> the<00:16:46.079> reason<00:16:46.320> that<00:16:46.639> I
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  that was actually the reason that I
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  that was actually the reason that I moved.<00:16:48.079> Uh<00:16:48.720> of<00:16:48.959> course<00:16:49.519> when<00:16:49.920> you<00:16:50.160> are
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  moved. Uh of course when you are
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  moved. Uh of course when you are discussing<00:16:51.600> jobs<00:16:52.000> and<00:16:52.240> you<00:16:52.480> are<00:16:53.040> basically
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  discussing jobs and you are basically
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  discussing jobs and you are basically without<00:16:53.920> a<00:16:54.079> job<00:16:54.240> when<00:16:54.480> you<00:16:54.639> move<00:16:54.880> then<00:16:55.120> of
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  without a job when you move then of
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  without a job when you move then of course<00:16:55.440> that<00:16:55.680> that<00:16:56.000> is<00:16:56.240> something<00:16:56.560> that<00:16:57.759> you
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  course that that is something that you
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  course that that is something that you think<00:16:58.240> about.<00:16:58.720> Uh<00:16:59.040> but<00:16:59.279> to<00:16:59.440> me<00:16:59.600> I<00:16:59.839> was<00:17:00.000> not
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  think about. Uh but to me I was not
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  think about. Uh but to me I was not afraid<00:17:00.639> of<00:17:00.880> not<00:17:01.120> getting<00:17:01.279> a<00:17:01.519> new<00:17:01.680> job.<00:17:02.240> It<00:17:02.480> was
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  afraid of not getting a new job. It was
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  afraid of not getting a new job. It was more<00:17:02.959> where<00:17:03.279> I<00:17:03.600> ended<00:17:03.920> up.
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  more where I ended up.
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  more where I ended up. Do<00:17:04.640> you<00:17:04.720> think<00:17:04.880> it<00:17:05.120> was<00:17:05.360> simpler<00:17:05.839> to<00:17:06.160> do<00:17:06.319> it
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  Do you think it was simpler to do it
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  Do you think it was simpler to do it that<00:17:06.720> way?<00:17:07.199> It<00:17:07.439> was<00:17:07.520> a<00:17:07.679> more<00:17:08.000> cleancut<00:17:08.720> you<00:17:08.880> can
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  that way? It was a more cleancut you can
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  that way? It was a more cleancut you can say<00:17:09.360> because<00:17:10.720> at<00:17:11.039> the<00:17:11.280> time<00:17:12.079> of<00:17:12.400> course<00:17:12.640> I<00:17:13.039> had
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  say because at the time of course I had
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  say because at the time of course I had started<00:17:14.400> up<00:17:14.640> my<00:17:14.880> network<00:17:15.360> when<00:17:15.679> I<00:17:15.919> decided<00:17:16.400> to
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  started up my network when I decided to
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  started up my network when I decided to wanted<00:17:17.280> uh<00:17:17.360> to<00:17:17.679> move<00:17:18.480> uh<00:17:18.640> towards<00:17:19.120> Copenhagen
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  wanted uh to move uh towards Copenhagen
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  wanted uh to move uh towards Copenhagen but<00:17:20.559> I<00:17:20.799> really<00:17:21.199> first<00:17:21.600> started<00:17:22.079> up<00:17:22.480> with<00:17:23.039> the
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  but I really first started up with the
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  but I really first started up with the many<00:17:24.720> uh<00:17:24.959> meetings<00:17:25.520> when<00:17:25.839> I<00:17:26.079> actually<00:17:26.400> was
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  many uh meetings when I actually was
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  many uh meetings when I actually was there<00:17:27.360> and<00:17:27.520> then<00:17:27.760> the<00:17:28.000> original<00:17:28.480> intention
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  there and then the original intention
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  there and then the original intention was<00:17:29.520> actually<00:17:29.919> to<00:17:30.160> work<00:17:30.400> in<00:17:30.559> Copenhagen.
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  was actually to work in Copenhagen.
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  was actually to work in Copenhagen. There's<00:17:31.760> a<00:17:31.919> lot<00:17:32.080> of<00:17:32.160> interesting<00:17:32.559> companies
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  There's a lot of interesting companies
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  There's a lot of interesting companies there<00:17:33.440> and<00:17:33.600> I<00:17:33.840> also<00:17:34.000> had<00:17:34.160> a<00:17:34.400> lot<00:17:34.480> of<00:17:34.640> interest
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  there and I also had a lot of interest
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  there and I also had a lot of interest in<00:17:35.120> dialogues<00:17:35.679> with<00:17:35.919> different<00:17:36.240> companies.
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  in dialogues with different companies.
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  in dialogues with different companies. But<00:17:37.280> I<00:17:37.520> also<00:17:38.240> was<00:17:38.640> a<00:17:38.960> point<00:17:39.120> in<00:17:39.360> my<00:17:39.600> life<00:17:40.000> where
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  But I also was a point in my life where
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  But I also was a point in my life where I<00:17:41.360> didn't<00:17:41.679> want<00:17:41.840> to<00:17:42.000> take<00:17:42.160> a<00:17:42.400> job<00:17:42.799> just<00:17:43.039> to<00:17:43.360> get
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  I didn't want to take a job just to get
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  I didn't want to take a job just to get a<00:17:43.760> job.<00:17:44.160> I<00:17:44.400> actually<00:17:44.799> wanted<00:17:45.039> to<00:17:45.280> do<00:17:45.440> something
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  a job. I actually wanted to do something
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  a job. I actually wanted to do something that<00:17:46.000> that<00:17:46.400> meant<00:17:46.720> something<00:17:47.039> to<00:17:47.280> me<00:17:48.240> uh<00:17:48.640> and
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  that that meant something to me uh and
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  that that meant something to me uh and uh<00:17:50.320> was<00:17:51.120> what<00:17:51.360> I<00:17:51.679> wanted.<00:17:52.880> And<00:17:53.039> I<00:17:53.280> have<00:17:53.600> my
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  uh was what I wanted. And I have my
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  uh was what I wanted. And I have my entire<00:17:54.400> career<00:17:54.799> worked<00:17:55.120> in<00:17:55.360> owner<00:17:56.080> managed
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  entire career worked in owner managed
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  entire career worked in owner managed companies.<00:17:57.919> So<00:17:58.240> I<00:17:58.559> also<00:17:59.600> knew<00:17:59.919> that<00:18:00.160> that<00:18:00.480> was
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  companies. So I also knew that that was
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  companies. So I also knew that that was actually<00:18:01.280> rather<00:18:01.679> attractive<00:18:02.080> to<00:18:02.320> me<00:18:02.480> because
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  actually rather attractive to me because
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  actually rather attractive to me because you<00:18:02.880> have<00:18:03.039> shorter<00:18:03.440> communication<00:18:04.080> ways,<00:18:04.880> you
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  you have shorter communication ways, you
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  you have shorter communication ways, you have<00:18:05.280> small<00:18:05.520> shorter<00:18:06.000> decision<00:18:06.480> ways.<00:18:07.200> So
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  have small shorter decision ways. So
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  have small shorter decision ways. So that<00:18:07.600> was<00:18:07.760> actually<00:18:08.160> one<00:18:08.320> of<00:18:08.480> my<00:18:08.720> criterias
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  that was actually one of my criterias
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  that was actually one of my criterias um<00:18:11.120> that<00:18:11.679> if<00:18:12.080> if<00:18:12.559> I<00:18:12.880> could<00:18:13.440> find<00:18:14.240> an
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  um that if if I could find an
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  um that if if I could find an interesting<00:18:15.039> job<00:18:15.600> in<00:18:15.919> a<00:18:16.160> company<00:18:16.480> that<00:18:16.799> was
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  interesting job in a company that was
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  interesting job in a company that was owner<00:18:17.520> managed<00:18:18.240> then<00:18:18.480> I<00:18:18.640> would<00:18:18.799> actually
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  owner managed then I would actually
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  owner managed then I would actually prefer<00:18:19.520> that<00:18:20.080> towards<00:18:21.039> company<00:18:21.360> that<00:18:21.679> for
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  prefer that towards company that for
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  prefer that towards company that for example<00:18:22.160> is<00:18:22.559> stock<00:18:23.120> listed<00:18:23.440> or<00:18:23.760> something
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  example is stock listed or something
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  example is stock listed or something like<00:18:24.080> that.<00:18:25.039> Uh<00:18:25.440> so<00:18:25.600> to<00:18:25.760> me<00:18:25.919> that<00:18:26.160> was<00:18:26.320> actually
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  like that. Uh so to me that was actually
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  like that. Uh so to me that was actually something<00:18:26.960> that<00:18:27.280> motivated<00:18:27.840> me.<00:18:28.400> Uh
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  something that motivated me. Uh
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  something that motivated me. Uh why<00:18:28.960> is<00:18:29.120> that?<00:18:29.440> Why<00:18:29.679> why<00:18:29.919> would<00:18:30.160> that<00:18:30.320> help
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  why is that? Why why would that help
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  why is that? Why why would that help you?
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  you?
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  you? Because<00:18:32.799> because<00:18:33.679> I<00:18:34.160> since<00:18:34.480> I've<00:18:34.720> not<00:18:35.120> worked
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  Because because I since I've not worked
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  Because because I since I've not worked in<00:18:35.760> in<00:18:36.080> other<00:18:36.400> than<00:18:36.640> owner<00:18:37.039> managed<00:18:37.360> companies
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  in in other than owner managed companies
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  in in other than owner managed companies then<00:18:38.000> you<00:18:38.160> can<00:18:38.320> say<00:18:38.480> I<00:18:38.640> can<00:18:38.799> only<00:18:39.600> have<00:18:39.760> my
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  then you can say I can only have my
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  then you can say I can only have my opinion<00:18:40.480> based<00:18:40.799> on<00:18:41.120> discussions<00:18:41.760> I've<00:18:42.000> had
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  opinion based on discussions I've had
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  opinion based on discussions I've had with<00:18:42.400> peers<00:18:42.640> in<00:18:42.880> my<00:18:43.039> network.<00:18:44.160> Um,<00:18:44.960> and<00:18:46.160> one<00:18:46.400> of
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  with peers in my network. Um, and one of
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  with peers in my network. Um, and one of the<00:18:46.799> things<00:18:47.039> I<00:18:47.440> experienced<00:18:47.919> was<00:18:48.240> that<00:18:48.480> that
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  the things I experienced was that that
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  the things I experienced was that that when<00:18:49.280> you<00:18:49.440> have<00:18:49.600> an<00:18:49.840> owner<00:18:50.320> managed<00:18:50.720> company,
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  when you have an owner managed company,
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  when you have an owner managed company, then<00:18:52.880> you<00:18:53.200> get<00:18:53.440> quicker<00:18:53.919> answers.<00:18:54.799> Uh,<00:18:55.360> you
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  then you get quicker answers. Uh, you
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  then you get quicker answers. Uh, you you<00:18:56.240> have<00:18:56.480> shorter<00:18:57.039> decision<00:18:57.520> ways<00:18:57.840> because
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  you have shorter decision ways because
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  you have shorter decision ways because you<00:18:58.799> might<00:18:59.039> have<00:18:59.200> a<00:18:59.360> few<00:18:59.600> meetings<00:18:59.919> about<00:19:00.240> a
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  you might have a few meetings about a
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  you might have a few meetings about a new<00:19:00.799> strategic<00:19:01.520> uh<00:19:01.679> initiative<00:19:02.320> or<00:19:02.960> a<00:19:03.280> new
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  new strategic uh initiative or a new
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  new strategic uh initiative or a new investment<00:19:04.000> or<00:19:04.240> something<00:19:04.400> like<00:19:04.559> that.<00:19:04.880> But
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  investment or something like that. But
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  investment or something like that. But but<00:19:05.600> it<00:19:05.840> is<00:19:06.080> more<00:19:07.280> look<00:19:07.520> at<00:19:07.679> the<00:19:07.840> numbers,<00:19:08.640> look
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  but it is more look at the numbers, look
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  but it is more look at the numbers, look at<00:19:09.039> the<00:19:09.280> the<00:19:09.440> the<00:19:10.000> calculation,<00:19:10.799> look<00:19:10.960> at<00:19:11.120> the
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  at the the the calculation, look at the
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  return on investment, etc. But if you
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  return on investment, etc. But if you have<00:19:14.240> done<00:19:14.559> your<00:19:14.799> homework<00:19:15.919> then<00:19:16.160> it's<00:19:16.480> more
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  have done your homework then it's more
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  have done your homework then it's more do<00:19:17.360> we<00:19:17.520> want<00:19:17.679> to<00:19:17.919> do<00:19:18.000> it<00:19:18.400> do<00:19:18.559> we<00:19:18.799> have<00:19:19.120> free
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  do we want to do it do we have free
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  do we want to do it do we have free liquidity<00:19:19.919> to<00:19:20.160> do<00:19:20.320> it<00:19:21.679> and<00:19:21.919> then<00:19:22.080> take<00:19:22.320> the
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  liquidity to do it and then take the
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  liquidity to do it and then take the decision<00:19:23.120> where<00:19:23.440> you<00:19:23.600> can<00:19:23.679> say<00:19:23.919> you<00:19:24.160> don't
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  decision where you can say you don't
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  decision where you can say you don't have<00:19:24.559> to<00:19:25.280> put<00:19:25.520> it<00:19:25.679> up<00:19:25.840> towards<00:19:26.240> a<00:19:26.480> board<00:19:26.960> you
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  have to put it up towards a board you
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  don't have to to to uh to discuss it
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  don't have to to to uh to discuss it with<00:19:30.480> different<00:19:30.960> levels<00:19:31.600> of<00:19:31.919> management<00:19:32.400> in
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  with different levels of management in
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  the company or potentially a quarter in
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  the US or or somewhere else uh it is a
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  the US or or somewhere else uh it is a quicker<00:19:39.200> decision<00:19:39.520> way<00:19:39.679> and<00:19:39.919> that<00:19:40.000> that<00:19:40.320> is
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  quicker decision way and that that is
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  attractive to me that that that when we
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  attractive to me that that that when we take<00:19:42.640> a<00:19:42.880> decision.<00:19:43.679> If<00:19:43.919> we<00:19:44.320> believe<00:19:44.640> something
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  take a decision. If we believe something
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  take a decision. If we believe something is<00:19:45.280> right,<00:19:45.919> then<00:19:46.160> let's<00:19:46.480> go<00:19:46.640> out<00:19:46.799> and<00:19:47.039> execute
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  is right, then let's go out and execute
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  is right, then let's go out and execute it.
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  it.
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  So, a lot less bureaucracy, a lot less
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  So, a lot less bureaucracy, a lot less Exactly.<00:19:51.200> One<00:19:51.360> of<00:19:51.440> the<00:19:51.679> things<00:19:51.840> that
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  Exactly. One of the things that
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  attracted uh me.
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  attracted uh me. Is<00:19:54.640> that<00:19:54.880> because<00:19:56.080> you<00:19:56.400> feel<00:19:56.799> that<00:19:58.080> execution
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  Is that because you feel that execution
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  Is that because you feel that execution is<00:19:59.440> one<00:19:59.679> of<00:19:59.760> your<00:20:00.240> greatest<00:20:00.559> strengths?
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  is one of your greatest strengths?
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  is one of your greatest strengths? Yeah,<00:20:01.760> I<00:20:02.000> think<00:20:02.160> I<00:20:02.400> think<00:20:02.480> I'm<00:20:02.880> a<00:20:03.120> good
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  Yeah, I think I think I'm a good
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  executor, but when when when we decide
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  executor, but when when when we decide something,<00:20:06.480> then<00:20:06.720> we<00:20:06.960> need<00:20:07.039> to<00:20:07.200> go<00:20:07.360> out.<00:20:08.080> I'm
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  something, then we need to go out. I'm
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  something, then we need to go out. I'm also<00:20:09.200> have<00:20:09.600> I<00:20:09.840> come<00:20:10.000> from<00:20:10.240> finance
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  also have I come from finance
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  also have I come from finance originally.<00:20:11.600> So,<00:20:11.840> so<00:20:12.080> you<00:20:12.240> can<00:20:12.400> say<00:20:12.640> my
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  originally. So, so you can say my
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  originally. So, so you can say my background<00:20:13.679> is<00:20:14.320> more<00:20:14.559> the<00:20:14.799> analytical<00:20:15.440> part
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  background is more the analytical part
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  background is more the analytical part but<00:20:17.520> I<00:20:17.840> like<00:20:18.160> to<00:20:18.400> be<00:20:18.559> in<00:20:18.720> the<00:20:18.880> cross<00:20:19.200> field
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  but I like to be in the cross field
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  but I like to be in the cross field between<00:20:20.080> where<00:20:20.400> we<00:20:20.559> look<00:20:20.720> at<00:20:20.880> data<00:20:21.360> where<00:20:21.520> we
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  between where we look at data where we
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  between where we look at data where we look<00:20:21.840> at<00:20:22.720> the<00:20:22.960> foundation<00:20:23.520> for<00:20:23.760> our<00:20:24.080> decisions
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  look at the foundation for our decisions
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  look at the foundation for our decisions uh<00:20:25.760> and<00:20:26.000> then<00:20:26.640> what<00:20:26.880> is<00:20:26.960> the<00:20:27.200> strategy<00:20:27.679> and
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  uh and then what is the strategy and
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  uh and then what is the strategy and what<00:20:28.480> then<00:20:28.799> execute<00:20:29.440> on<00:20:29.679> that.<00:20:30.880> Uh<00:20:31.200> so<00:20:31.360> that<00:20:31.600> is
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  what then execute on that. Uh so that is
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  what then execute on that. Uh so that is the<00:20:31.919> cross<00:20:32.159> field<00:20:32.559> where<00:20:32.960> I<00:20:33.120> I<00:20:33.919> prefer<00:20:34.320> to<00:20:34.559> be
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  the cross field where I I prefer to be
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  the cross field where I I prefer to be in<00:20:35.440> uh<00:20:35.520> and<00:20:35.679> that<00:20:35.919> is<00:20:36.080> also<00:20:36.320> my<00:20:36.640> current
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  in uh and that is also my current
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  in uh and that is also my current position.<00:20:37.679> I<00:20:38.320> am<00:20:38.480> in<00:20:38.640> the<00:20:38.720> cross<00:20:38.960> field
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  position. I am in the cross field
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  position. I am in the cross field between<00:20:39.679> execution<00:20:40.720> based<00:20:41.200> on<00:20:41.520> data<00:20:42.000> and
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  between execution based on data and
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  between execution based on data and based<00:20:42.640> on<00:20:43.200> management<00:20:43.679> of<00:20:43.919> people.<00:20:44.880> Uh
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  based on management of people. Uh
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  based on management of people. Uh okay<00:20:45.679> let<00:20:45.840> me<00:20:46.000> let<00:20:46.159> me<00:20:46.320> force<00:20:46.559> you<00:20:46.720> to<00:20:46.880> make<00:20:46.960> a
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  okay let me let me force you to make a
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  okay let me let me force you to make a decision<00:20:47.840> planning<00:20:48.159> or<00:20:48.480> execution.
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  decision planning or execution.
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  decision planning or execution. Tough<00:20:50.240> choice<00:20:50.960> because<00:20:52.000> my<00:20:52.320> profile<00:20:52.799> would
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  Tough choice because my profile would
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  say that that I don't take decisions
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  say that that I don't take decisions without<00:20:55.760> having<00:20:56.080> done<00:20:56.320> my<00:20:56.559> homework.<00:20:57.360> So
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  without having done my homework. So
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  without having done my homework. So homework<00:20:58.559> is<00:20:58.880> more<00:20:59.200> important<00:21:00.159> than
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  homework is more important than
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  homework is more important than execution<00:21:01.840> because<00:21:02.159> we<00:21:02.400> need<00:21:02.559> to<00:21:02.799> make<00:21:03.039> sure
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  execution because we need to make sure
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  execution because we need to make sure that<00:21:03.520> we<00:21:03.679> are<00:21:03.840> doing<00:21:04.000> the<00:21:04.240> right<00:21:04.480> decisions.
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  that we are doing the right decisions.
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  that we are doing the right decisions. So,<00:21:06.799> it's<00:21:07.120> not<00:21:07.280> that<00:21:07.520> you<00:21:07.760> don't<00:21:08.000> appreciate
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  So, it's not that you don't appreciate
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  So, it's not that you don't appreciate all<00:21:08.960> the<00:21:09.120> planning<00:21:09.440> that's<00:21:09.840> necessary<00:21:10.640> in
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  all the planning that's necessary in
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  all the planning that's necessary in order<00:21:11.120> to<00:21:11.360> execute<00:21:11.919> correctly.<00:21:13.039> It's<00:21:13.280> that
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  order to execute correctly. It's that
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  order to execute correctly. It's that you<00:21:13.840> want<00:21:14.000> to<00:21:14.159> limit<00:21:14.480> that<00:21:15.280> for<00:21:15.520> it<00:21:15.679> to<00:21:15.840> be
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  you want to limit that for it to be
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  you want to limit that for it to be extremely<00:21:17.039> efficient.
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  extremely efficient.
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  extremely efficient. Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yes. Instead<00:21:18.799> of<00:21:19.360> waiting<00:21:19.760> and<00:21:20.000> waiting<00:21:20.400> for<00:21:20.720> other
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  Instead of waiting and waiting for other
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  Instead of waiting and waiting for other people<00:21:21.120> to<00:21:21.360> make<00:21:21.600> decisions<00:21:22.880> uh<00:21:23.039> until<00:21:23.440> you
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  people to make decisions uh until you
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  people to make decisions uh until you finally<00:21:24.000> can<00:21:24.799> um
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  finally can um
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  finally can um Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yes. press<00:21:25.840> go.<00:21:26.080> I<00:21:26.400> I<00:21:26.400> I<00:21:26.640> I<00:21:27.120> don't<00:21:27.360> mind<00:21:27.919> spending
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  press go. I I I I don't mind spending
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  press go. I I I I don't mind spending time<00:21:28.880> on<00:21:29.200> making<00:21:29.600> plans<00:21:30.240> and<00:21:30.400> and<00:21:31.440> doing
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  time on making plans and and doing
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  time on making plans and and doing calculations<00:21:33.120> uh<00:21:33.840> doing<00:21:34.159> investigations<00:21:35.200> if
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  calculations uh doing investigations if
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  calculations uh doing investigations if if<00:21:36.480> there's<00:21:36.799> a<00:21:37.039> new<00:21:37.360> topic,<00:21:37.760> a<00:21:37.919> new<00:21:38.159> field<00:21:39.039> we
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  if there's a new topic, a new field we
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  if there's a new topic, a new field we as<00:21:39.520> a<00:21:39.760> company<00:21:40.080> don't<00:21:40.320> know<00:21:40.480> about<00:21:41.039> and<00:21:41.280> go<00:21:41.440> out
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  as a company don't know about and go out
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  as a company don't know about and go out and<00:21:42.000> and<00:21:42.320> do<00:21:42.480> that.<00:21:43.280> But<00:21:43.520> I<00:21:43.760> also<00:21:44.000> want<00:21:44.159> to
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  and and do that. But I also want to
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  and and do that. But I also want to limit<00:21:44.720> it<00:21:44.960> so<00:21:45.200> that<00:21:45.520> we<00:21:46.400> do<00:21:46.640> not<00:21:47.440> just<00:21:48.320> produce
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  limit it so that we do not just produce
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  limit it so that we do not just produce data<00:21:49.760> for<00:21:50.000> the<00:21:50.159> sake<00:21:50.320> of<00:21:50.480> the<00:21:50.720> data<00:21:51.280> but<00:21:51.520> we
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  data for the sake of the data but we
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  data for the sake of the data but we produce<00:21:52.240> data<00:21:52.960> so<00:21:53.200> it<00:21:53.520> can<00:21:53.760> actually
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  produce data so it can actually
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  enlighten us to take the right decisions
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  enlighten us to take the right decisions based<00:21:57.360> on<00:21:57.679> the<00:21:58.159> chosen<00:21:58.720> strategy<00:21:59.200> for<00:21:59.440> the
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  based on the chosen strategy for the
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  based on the chosen strategy for the business.<00:22:00.080> And<00:22:00.559> there<00:22:00.880> my<00:22:01.200> experience<00:22:01.760> is<00:22:02.080> in
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  business. And there my experience is in
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  business. And there my experience is in all<00:22:02.480> the<00:22:02.720> companies<00:22:03.039> I've<00:22:03.280> been<00:22:03.440> in<00:22:04.000> that<00:22:04.240> is<00:22:04.480> a
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  all the companies I've been in that is a
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  all the companies I've been in that is a rather<00:22:07.120> easygoing
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  rather easygoing
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  rather easygoing path<00:22:09.120> when<00:22:09.440> you<00:22:09.600> have<00:22:09.760> the<00:22:10.000> owner<00:22:10.320> aboard
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  path when you have the owner aboard
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  path when you have the owner aboard somehow<00:22:11.600> being<00:22:11.840> a<00:22:12.000> part<00:22:12.159> of<00:22:12.240> the<00:22:12.480> business.
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  somehow being a part of the business.
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  somehow being a part of the business. So<00:22:13.760> when<00:22:14.080> you<00:22:14.480> chose<00:22:14.960> to<00:22:15.280> move<00:22:16.080> to<00:22:16.320> Mal?
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  So when you chose to move to Mal?
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  So when you chose to move to Mal? Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. Were<00:22:18.159> there<00:22:18.799> people<00:22:19.039> in<00:22:19.280> your<00:22:19.520> life<00:22:19.760> that
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  Were there people in your life that
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  Were there people in your life that disagreed<00:22:20.640> with<00:22:20.799> that?
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  disagreed with that?
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  disagreed with that? Uh<00:22:24.240> I<00:22:24.480> don't<00:22:24.720> think<00:22:25.039> people<00:22:25.520> disagreed.<00:22:26.320> I
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  Uh I don't think people disagreed. I
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  Uh I don't think people disagreed. I think<00:22:26.799> more<00:22:27.200> it<00:22:27.520> was<00:22:27.760> a<00:22:28.080> curiosity<00:22:28.880> and<00:22:29.120> the
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  think more it was a curiosity and the
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  think more it was a curiosity and the big<00:22:29.760> why<00:22:30.960> uh<00:22:32.080> why<00:22:32.400> are<00:22:32.640> you<00:22:32.799> doing<00:22:33.039> that
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  big why uh why are you doing that
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  big why uh why are you doing that because<00:22:33.840> I've<00:22:34.080> lived<00:22:34.400> in<00:22:34.559> in<00:22:34.720> in<00:22:34.880> in<00:22:35.840> for<00:22:36.000> quite
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  because I've lived in in in in for quite
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  because I've lived in in in in for quite many<00:22:36.400> years.<00:22:36.720> I<00:22:37.120> worked<00:22:37.440> there<00:22:37.679> even<00:22:38.000> more
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  many years. I worked there even more
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  many years. I worked there even more years.<00:22:39.120> Uh
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  years. Uh
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  years. Uh so
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  so
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  so and<00:22:41.840> you<00:22:42.000> have<00:22:42.240> a<00:22:42.320> network<00:22:42.799> there<00:22:43.200> right?
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  and you have a network there right?
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  and you have a network there right? Yeah<00:22:44.159> I<00:22:44.400> have<00:22:44.480> a<00:22:44.640> network<00:22:45.039> and<00:22:45.280> I<00:22:45.440> I<00:22:46.000> also<00:22:46.400> have
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  Yeah I have a network and I I also have
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  Yeah I have a network and I I also have a<00:22:47.120> smaller<00:22:47.600> network<00:22:48.080> in<00:22:48.320> Copen.<00:22:49.200> I've<00:22:49.520> been<00:22:49.600> a
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  a smaller network in Copen. I've been a
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  a smaller network in Copen. I've been a part<00:22:49.840> of<00:22:50.000> a<00:22:50.159> network<00:22:50.480> group<00:22:50.880> in<00:22:51.120> Copen<00:22:51.679> for
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  part of a network group in Copen for
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  part of a network group in Copen for quite<00:22:52.080> many<00:22:52.240> years.<00:22:53.039> Uh<00:22:53.600> so<00:22:53.840> of<00:22:54.080> course<00:22:54.240> I<00:22:54.559> had
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  quite many years. Uh so of course I had
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  quite many years. Uh so of course I had a<00:22:55.039> business<00:22:55.440> network<00:22:56.159> in<00:22:56.400> Copenhagen.<00:22:57.760> Uh<00:22:58.159> but
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  a business network in Copenhagen. Uh but
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  a business network in Copenhagen. Uh but the<00:22:58.720> majority<00:22:59.120> of<00:22:59.360> my<00:22:59.600> my<00:22:59.679> my<00:23:00.000> my<00:23:00.880> peers<00:23:01.200> and<00:23:01.440> my
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  the majority of my my my my peers and my
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  the majority of my my my my peers and my network<00:23:02.000> were<00:23:02.320> of<00:23:02.559> course<00:23:03.120> where<00:23:03.440> I<00:23:03.760> have
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  network were of course where I have
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  network were of course where I have lived<00:23:04.400> and<00:23:04.720> worked<00:23:05.039> for<00:23:05.760> 20<00:23:06.080> years<00:23:07.440> um<00:23:08.400> in
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  lived and worked for 20 years um in
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  lived and worked for 20 years um in August.<00:23:09.760> Um<00:23:11.039> so<00:23:11.360> to<00:23:11.600> me<00:23:11.840> it<00:23:12.080> was<00:23:12.240> more<00:23:13.440> a
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  August. Um so to me it was more a
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  August. Um so to me it was more a personal<00:23:14.400> decision.<00:23:15.760> uh<00:23:15.919> and<00:23:16.080> then<00:23:16.320> I<00:23:16.480> was<00:23:16.880> uh
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  personal decision. uh and then I was uh
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  personal decision. uh and then I was uh moving<00:23:17.760> to<00:23:17.919> Melbour<00:23:18.640> and<00:23:18.799> then<00:23:18.960> I<00:23:19.200> was<00:23:19.600> quite
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  moving to Melbour and then I was quite
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  moving to Melbour and then I was quite confident<00:23:20.559> that<00:23:22.000> I<00:23:22.240> would<00:23:22.480> find<00:23:22.720> my<00:23:22.960> path<00:23:23.440> also
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  confident that I would find my path also
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  confident that I would find my path also in<00:23:24.400> new<00:23:24.960> surroundings.
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  in new surroundings.
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  in new surroundings. Why?
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  Why?
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  Why? Um
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  Um
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  Um I<00:23:30.880> think<00:23:31.039> because<00:23:31.520> I<00:23:31.679> I<00:23:32.480> sort<00:23:32.720> of<00:23:32.880> have<00:23:33.120> an
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  I think because I I sort of have an
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  I think because I I sort of have an inner<00:23:33.760> peace<00:23:34.000> with<00:23:34.320> myself.<00:23:34.960> Uh<00:23:36.159> so<00:23:36.400> I<00:23:37.120> rested
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  inner peace with myself. Uh so I rested
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  inner peace with myself. Uh so I rested myself<00:23:37.919> and<00:23:38.080> then<00:23:38.320> then<00:23:39.520> uh
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  myself and then then uh
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  myself and then then uh I<00:23:41.919> was<00:23:42.080> also<00:23:42.480> confident<00:23:42.880> in<00:23:43.120> my<00:23:43.360> own<00:23:43.520> skills
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  I was also confident in my own skills
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  I was also confident in my own skills and<00:23:44.080> my<00:23:44.240> own<00:23:44.400> ability<00:23:44.799> to<00:23:44.960> to<00:23:45.039> to<00:23:45.280> to<00:23:46.000> execute.
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  and my own ability to to to to execute.
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  and my own ability to to to to execute. So<00:23:46.960> I<00:23:47.280> was<00:23:47.919> a<00:23:48.240> card<00:23:48.559> that<00:23:48.799> could<00:23:49.120> fit<00:23:49.520> in<00:23:50.799> uh
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  So I was a card that could fit in uh
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  So I was a card that could fit in uh quite<00:23:52.080> many<00:23:52.320> places.<00:23:52.960> Uh<00:23:53.280> to<00:23:53.520> me<00:23:53.679> it<00:23:53.840> was<00:23:54.000> more
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  quite many places. Uh to me it was more
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  quite many places. Uh to me it was more a<00:23:54.400> matter<00:23:54.640> of<00:23:54.799> finding<00:23:55.200> the<00:23:55.440> place<00:23:55.760> where<00:23:56.000> I
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  a matter of finding the place where I
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  a matter of finding the place where I also<00:23:56.559> feel<00:23:56.880> motivated<00:23:58.000> uh<00:23:58.159> for<00:23:58.400> doing<00:23:58.640> what
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  also feel motivated uh for doing what
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  also feel motivated uh for doing what I'm<00:23:59.280> doing.<00:24:00.400> uh<00:24:00.480> and<00:24:00.720> that<00:24:00.960> I<00:24:01.520> in<00:24:01.760> particularly
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  I'm doing. uh and that I in particularly
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  I'm doing. uh and that I in particularly feel<00:24:02.880> uh<00:24:03.039> right<00:24:03.280> now<00:24:03.440> where<00:24:03.760> I<00:24:03.919> am.
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  feel uh right now where I am.
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  feel uh right now where I am. Can<00:24:05.760> you<00:24:05.919> think<00:24:06.080> of<00:24:06.400> other<00:24:06.799> experiences<00:24:07.760> where
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  Can you think of other experiences where
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  Can you think of other experiences where you<00:24:09.039> have<00:24:09.919> thrown<00:24:10.320> yourself<00:24:10.720> into<00:24:11.039> something
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  you have thrown yourself into something
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  you have thrown yourself into something and<00:24:13.039> ended<00:24:13.360> up<00:24:13.520> swimming<00:24:14.559> that<00:24:14.799> you<00:24:14.960> could
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  and ended up swimming that you could
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  and ended up swimming that you could relate<00:24:15.520> to<00:24:16.240> in<00:24:16.640> doing<00:24:16.880> this?
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  relate to in doing this?
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  relate to in doing this? I<00:24:18.480> think<00:24:18.640> I<00:24:18.880> think<00:24:18.960> if<00:24:19.200> I<00:24:19.440> look<00:24:19.600> back<00:24:19.919> there<00:24:20.080> has
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  I think I think if I look back there has
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  I think I think if I look back there has been<00:24:20.480> many<00:24:20.799> instances<00:24:21.440> in<00:24:21.679> your<00:24:22.000> career<00:24:22.400> where
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  been many instances in your career where
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  been many instances in your career where you<00:24:23.760> have
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  you have
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  you have taken<00:24:26.159> a<00:24:26.320> bit<00:24:26.559> bigger<00:24:26.880> mouthful<00:24:27.360> than<00:24:27.600> you
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  taken a bit bigger mouthful than you
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  taken a bit bigger mouthful than you potentially<00:24:28.640> are<00:24:28.960> able<00:24:29.200> to<00:24:29.440> chew<00:24:29.679> at<00:24:29.919> that
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  potentially are able to chew at that
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  potentially are able to chew at that time.<00:24:30.960> Uh<00:24:31.440> but
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  time. Uh but
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  time. Uh but um
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  um
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  um I<00:24:36.000> think<00:24:36.799> personally<00:24:37.840> uh<00:24:38.159> I<00:24:38.480> can<00:24:38.559> only<00:24:38.799> speak
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  I think personally uh I can only speak
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  I think personally uh I can only speak for<00:24:39.200> myself.<00:24:39.840> I<00:24:40.080> think<00:24:40.240> personally<00:24:41.120> I'm
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  for myself. I think personally I'm
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  for myself. I think personally I'm probably<00:24:42.159> a<00:24:42.559> person<00:24:42.960> who<00:24:43.279> then<00:24:44.080> works<00:24:44.480> even
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  probably a person who then works even
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  probably a person who then works even harder<00:24:45.120> to<00:24:45.440> make<00:24:45.600> it<00:24:45.840> happen.<00:24:47.039> Uh,<00:24:48.240> but<00:24:48.559> I<00:24:48.880> also
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  harder to make it happen. Uh, but I also
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  harder to make it happen. Uh, but I also acknowledge<00:24:50.480> that
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  acknowledge that
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  acknowledge that you're<00:24:52.640> sometimes<00:24:53.120> wrong.<00:24:54.080> And<00:24:54.240> I<00:24:54.480> think<00:24:54.559> that
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  you're sometimes wrong. And I think that
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  you're sometimes wrong. And I think that is<00:24:55.200> actually<00:24:55.600> a<00:24:55.919> bigger<00:24:56.320> challenge<00:24:56.720> than
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  is actually a bigger challenge than
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  is actually a bigger challenge than sometimes<00:24:58.080> taking<00:24:58.320> on<00:24:58.559> too<00:24:58.880> much
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  sometimes taking on too much
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  sometimes taking on too much responsibility<00:24:59.919> than<00:25:00.080> you<00:25:00.240> can<00:25:00.400> deal<00:25:00.640> with.
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  responsibility than you can deal with.
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  responsibility than you can deal with. It<00:25:01.840> is<00:25:02.000> also<00:25:02.400> sometimes<00:25:02.880> to<00:25:03.200> admit<00:25:03.440> that
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  It is also sometimes to admit that
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  It is also sometimes to admit that you're<00:25:04.000> wrong,<00:25:05.039> that<00:25:05.279> you're<00:25:05.440> not<00:25:05.679> right<00:25:06.000> all
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  you're wrong, that you're not right all
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  you're wrong, that you're not right all the<00:25:06.480> time.<00:25:07.200> Uh,
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  the time. Uh,
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  the time. Uh, do<00:25:08.320> that.
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  do that.
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  do that. uh
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  for<00:25:14.400> example<00:25:15.600> if<00:25:15.760> if<00:25:16.080> we<00:25:16.320> could<00:25:16.559> combine<00:25:16.880> it
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  for example if if we could combine it
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  for example if if we could combine it with<00:25:17.200> what<00:25:17.440> we're<00:25:17.760> talking<00:25:17.919> about<00:25:18.159> then<00:25:18.320> you
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  with what we're talking about then you
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  with what we're talking about then you could<00:25:18.640> say<00:25:19.120> I<00:25:19.440> had<00:25:19.679> a<00:25:20.159> very<00:25:20.480> intense<00:25:20.960> dialogue
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  could say I had a very intense dialogue
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  could say I had a very intense dialogue with<00:25:21.520> a<00:25:21.760> company<00:25:21.919> in<00:25:22.159> Copenhagen
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  with a company in Copenhagen
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  with a company in Copenhagen uh<00:25:25.360> where<00:25:25.919> I<00:25:27.279> I<00:25:27.600> think<00:25:27.679> we<00:25:27.919> were<00:25:28.080> through<00:25:28.640> three
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  uh where I I think we were through three
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  uh where I I think we were through three three<00:25:28.880> or<00:25:29.120> four<00:25:29.840> meetings<00:25:30.799> uh<00:25:31.279> where<00:25:31.840> it<00:25:31.919> was<00:25:32.080> a
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  three or four meetings uh where it was a
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  three or four meetings uh where it was a specific<00:25:32.720> assignment<00:25:33.600> uh
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  specific assignment uh
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  specific assignment uh in<00:25:35.840> a<00:25:36.480> larger<00:25:37.039> company<00:25:37.360> but<00:25:37.600> but<00:25:37.679> but<00:25:38.240> in<00:25:38.559> a<00:25:39.039> a
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  in a larger company but but but in a a
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  in a larger company but but but in a a daughter<00:25:40.720> company<00:25:41.120> of<00:25:42.000> a<00:25:42.240> bigger<00:25:42.640> company.<00:25:43.279> Um
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  daughter company of a bigger company. Um
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  daughter company of a bigger company. Um where<00:25:45.039> the<00:25:45.440> assignment<00:25:46.320> was<00:25:46.799> very
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  where the assignment was very
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  where the assignment was very interesting.<00:25:48.080> Uh<00:25:48.799> the<00:25:49.279> perspective<00:25:50.080> was
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  interesting. Uh the perspective was
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  interesting. Uh the perspective was interesting<00:25:51.600> but<00:25:52.080> the<00:25:52.400> setup
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  interesting but the setup
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  interesting but the setup I<00:25:54.400> ended<00:25:54.640> up<00:25:54.880> saying<00:25:55.120> that<00:25:55.360> that<00:25:55.840> I<00:25:56.159> was
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  I ended up saying that that I was
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  I ended up saying that that I was blinded<00:25:57.200> by<00:25:58.000> the<00:25:58.320> job<00:25:58.720> so<00:25:58.960> I<00:25:59.200> forgot<00:25:59.520> the
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  blinded by the job so I forgot the
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  blinded by the job so I forgot the setup.
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  setup.
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  setup. So<00:26:01.679> you're<00:26:02.000> actually<00:26:02.240> quite<00:26:02.559> far<00:26:02.799> in<00:26:02.960> the
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  So you're actually quite far in the
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  So you're actually quite far in the process<00:26:03.600> where<00:26:04.559> I<00:26:04.880> had<00:26:05.120> to<00:26:05.360> feel<00:26:06.000> myself<00:26:06.400> and
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  process where I had to feel myself and
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  process where I had to feel myself and say
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  say
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  say uh<00:26:08.720> this<00:26:09.120> setup<00:26:09.760> where<00:26:10.320> you<00:26:10.720> have<00:26:11.760> they<00:26:12.000> had<00:26:12.159> a
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  uh this setup where you have they had a
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  uh this setup where you have they had a setup<00:26:12.720> where<00:26:12.960> they<00:26:13.279> sort<00:26:13.520> of<00:26:13.679> had<00:26:14.240> two<00:26:15.600> country
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  setup where they sort of had two country
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  setup where they sort of had two country responsibles.<00:26:17.279> So<00:26:17.520> where<00:26:17.919> we<00:26:18.240> were<00:26:18.480> one
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  responsibles. So where we were one
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  responsibles. So where we were one country<00:26:19.120> in<00:26:19.360> a<00:26:19.520> bigger<00:26:19.760> group<00:26:20.400> uh<00:26:20.559> and<00:26:20.799> and
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  country in a bigger group uh and and
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  country in a bigger group uh and and they<00:26:22.000> sort<00:26:22.159> of<00:26:22.320> had<00:26:22.880> overlapping
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  they sort of had overlapping
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  they sort of had overlapping responsibilities<00:26:24.880> and<00:26:25.039> I<00:26:25.279> said<00:26:26.400> my
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  responsibilities and I said my
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  responsibilities and I said my sorry<00:26:27.200> overlapping<00:26:27.520> responsibilities<00:26:28.240> in
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  sorry overlapping responsibilities in
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  sorry overlapping responsibilities in the<00:26:28.640> same<00:26:28.880> country<00:26:29.440> is<00:26:29.679> is
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  the same country is is
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  the same country is is no<00:26:30.400> no<00:26:30.400> no<00:26:31.039> but<00:26:31.200> but<00:26:31.279> but<00:26:31.679> on<00:26:31.840> the<00:26:32.000> level<00:26:32.240> above
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  no no no but but but on the level above
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  no no no but but but on the level above the<00:26:32.799> country<00:26:34.000> uh<00:26:34.720> so<00:26:34.960> so<00:26:34.960> so<00:26:35.919> the<00:26:36.159> intention
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  the country uh so so so the intention
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  was to incorporate me in the Danish
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  part of an international group uh with a
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  setup on group level was that there were
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  two basically you reported to and my experience<00:26:54.320> is<00:26:54.640> that<00:26:55.039> when<00:26:55.600> you<00:26:55.840> have
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  experience is that when you have
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  uh point of contacts uh above you uh
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  uh point of contacts uh above you uh then<00:27:04.880> who's<00:27:05.360> actually<00:27:05.760> responsible
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  uh and I tried that once in my past uh
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  uh and I tried that once in my past uh way<00:27:12.960> back<00:27:13.360> but<00:27:13.520> but<00:27:14.320> my<00:27:14.640> experience<00:27:15.440> not
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  but when we are pressed with a or
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  stressed with a project or we are
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  like that then who has the priority?
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  question. Do you think that's an organizational
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  certain personality that can deal with it?
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  not saying it can't work
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  uh because I've also seen it work but my
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  my own experience is that I would like
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  try to create here where I am uh that we
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  try to create here where I am uh that we have<00:28:07.600> clear<00:28:07.919> communication<00:28:08.559> line<00:28:08.880> who's
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  have clear communication line who's
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  otherwise there's too much talk who's
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  otherwise there's too much talk who's actually<00:28:16.880> responsible<00:28:17.360> and<00:28:17.600> my<00:28:17.840> experience
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  actually responsible and my experience
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  is if two or three or four people are responsible<00:28:21.360> then<00:28:21.679> nobody's<00:28:22.240> responsible.
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  responsible then nobody's responsible.
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  Sure. And typically this happens the
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  other way around doesn't it? Where you
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  other way around doesn't it? Where you have<00:28:28.399> one<00:28:28.720> boss<00:28:29.200> and<00:28:29.679> two<00:28:30.000> people<00:28:30.159> that<00:28:30.399> are
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  have one boss and two people that are
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  responsible for a certain area and
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  nobody knows whose neck to grab
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  nobody knows whose neck to grab if<00:28:35.760> there's<00:28:36.000> a<00:28:36.159> problem.
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  if there's a problem.
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  if there's a problem. And<00:28:37.279> it's<00:28:37.520> interesting<00:28:38.399> that<00:28:39.120> to<00:28:39.360> look<00:28:39.520> at<00:28:39.600> it
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  And it's interesting that to look at it
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  And it's interesting that to look at it from<00:28:39.919> a<00:28:40.080> different<00:28:40.320> perspective<00:28:41.200> like<00:28:41.440> that
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  and neither works very well typically.
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  and neither works very well typically. Exactly.<00:28:46.080> And<00:28:46.159> and<00:28:46.559> to<00:28:46.799> me<00:28:47.120> it<00:28:47.360> was<00:28:47.600> more<00:28:48.000> a
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  Exactly. And and to me it was more a
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  Exactly. And and to me it was more a matter<00:28:48.480> of<00:28:48.720> feeling<00:28:49.360> what<00:28:49.679> was<00:28:49.840> it<00:28:50.000> that<00:28:50.320> I
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  matter of feeling what was it that I
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  matter of feeling what was it that I wanted<00:28:51.360> uh<00:28:52.080> in<00:28:52.399> my<00:28:52.480> my<00:28:52.880> next<00:28:53.120> assignment.<00:28:53.840> So<00:28:54.000> I
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  wanted uh in my my next assignment. So I
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  wanted uh in my my next assignment. So I actually<00:28:54.399> chose<00:28:54.799> to<00:28:54.960> to<00:28:55.039> to<00:28:55.919> uh<00:28:56.480> to<00:28:56.960> uh<00:28:57.919> say<00:28:58.159> no
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  actually chose to to to uh to uh say no
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  actually chose to to to uh to uh say no thank<00:28:58.559> you<00:28:58.720> to<00:28:58.880> to<00:28:58.960> to<00:28:59.440> that<00:28:59.679> assignment.<00:29:00.640> Not
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  thank you to to to that assignment. Not
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  thank you to to to that assignment. Not because<00:29:01.120> the<00:29:01.360> job<00:29:01.600> wasn't<00:29:01.919> interesting<00:29:02.240> but
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  simply because the organization behind it<00:29:05.200> uh<00:29:05.679> I<00:29:06.000> didn't<00:29:06.159> feel<00:29:06.480> comfortable<00:29:06.880> with
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  it uh I didn't feel comfortable with
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  it uh I didn't feel comfortable with that.<00:29:08.399> uh
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  that. uh
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  that. uh because<00:29:10.640> I<00:29:10.799> I<00:29:11.120> met<00:29:11.360> both<00:29:11.600> of<00:29:11.760> the<00:29:11.919> persons<00:29:12.240> that
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  because I I met both of the persons that
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  we we were they were both a part of the
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  recruitment process and and
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  reasoning was that that they were not
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  reasoning was that that they were not 100%<00:29:25.600> clarified<00:29:26.320> internally<00:29:27.039> who<00:29:27.360> actually
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  know both said okay this is what we want
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  know both said okay this is what we want and<00:29:36.480> and<00:29:36.559> and<00:29:36.799> and<00:29:37.360> this<00:29:37.600> is<00:29:37.760> how<00:29:37.919> we<00:29:38.159> see<00:29:38.320> the
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  interview uh where was the first
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  Erasund which is part of the Copenhagen
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  Erasund which is part of the Copenhagen Malma<00:31:00.640> region,<00:31:01.760> it<00:31:02.000> is<00:31:02.080> a<00:31:02.320> different<00:31:02.559> country.
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  Malma region, it is a different country.
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  Malma region, it is a different country. Um<00:31:04.480> and<00:31:04.799> I<00:31:05.520> one<00:31:05.760> could<00:31:06.080> pro<00:31:06.399> probably<00:31:06.960> relate
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  Um and I one could pro probably relate
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  Um and I one could pro probably relate to<00:31:08.720> a<00:31:09.120> Belgian<00:31:09.679> moving<00:31:10.000> to<00:31:10.159> France<00:31:11.200> or<00:31:11.520> a
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  to a Belgian moving to France or a
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  to a Belgian moving to France or a Belgian<00:31:12.159> moving<00:31:12.399> to<00:31:12.559> Holland,<00:31:13.039> something
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  Belgian moving to Holland, something
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  Belgian moving to Holland, something like<00:31:13.440> that.<00:31:13.679> There,<00:31:14.000> you<00:31:14.080> know,<00:31:14.240> there<00:31:14.320> are<00:31:14.480> so
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  like that. There, you know, there are so
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  like that. There, you know, there are so many<00:31:14.799> similarities<00:31:15.840> and<00:31:16.159> yet
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  many similarities and yet
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  many similarities and yet probably<00:31:18.080> some<00:31:18.480> big<00:31:18.799> differences,<00:31:19.360> too.<00:31:19.679> Do
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  probably some big differences, too. Do
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  probably some big differences, too. Do you<00:31:20.480> do<00:31:20.720> you
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  you do you
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  you do you um<00:31:23.120> can<00:31:23.360> you<00:31:23.679> respond<00:31:24.159> to<00:31:24.399> any<00:31:24.640> of<00:31:24.720> the
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  um can you respond to any of the
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  um can you respond to any of the differences<00:31:25.520> between
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  differences between
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  differences between living<00:31:27.440> in<00:31:27.760> Denmark<00:31:28.240> and<00:31:28.559> living<00:31:28.720> in<00:31:28.960> Sweden?
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  living in Denmark and living in Sweden?
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  living in Denmark and living in Sweden? I<00:31:31.600> think
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  I think
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  I think I<00:31:33.600> might<00:31:33.760> be<00:31:33.919> the<00:31:34.080> wrong<00:31:34.320> person<00:31:34.559> to<00:31:34.799> ask<00:31:35.039> but<00:31:35.279> I
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  I might be the wrong person to ask but I
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  I might be the wrong person to ask but I think<00:31:35.840> generally<00:31:36.480> speaking
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  think generally speaking
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  think generally speaking then<00:31:38.880> a<00:31:39.279> lot<00:31:39.360> of<00:31:39.600> things<00:31:39.919> are<00:31:40.240> not<00:31:40.480> that
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  then a lot of things are not that
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  then a lot of things are not that different.<00:31:41.519> Yes,<00:31:42.000> we<00:31:42.320> have<00:31:42.559> different
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  different. Yes, we have different
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  different. Yes, we have different cultures.<00:31:43.760> Uh
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  cultures. Uh
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  cultures. Uh uh<00:31:46.000> you<00:31:46.159> can<00:31:46.320> say<00:31:46.480> the<00:31:46.720> language<00:31:47.440> are<00:31:47.760> slightly
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  uh you can say the language are slightly
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  uh you can say the language are slightly different,<00:31:48.480> but<00:31:48.799> yet<00:31:49.039> we<00:31:49.360> understand<00:31:49.840> each
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  different, but yet we understand each
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  different, but yet we understand each other.<00:31:50.320> So<00:31:50.480> I<00:31:50.640> still<00:31:50.960> don't<00:31:51.279> speak<00:31:51.840> Swedish.
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  other. So I still don't speak Swedish.
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  other. So I still don't speak Swedish. Uh<00:31:54.000> I'm<00:31:54.159> still<00:31:54.960> practicing<00:31:55.519> my<00:31:55.760> German<00:31:56.159> also.
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  Uh I'm still practicing my German also.
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  Uh I'm still practicing my German also. Uh<00:31:57.919> but<00:31:58.159> I<00:31:58.320> do<00:31:58.480> speak<00:31:58.720> German.<00:31:59.519> Uh<00:31:59.840> but<00:32:00.000> but<00:32:00.080> but
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  Uh but I do speak German. Uh but but but
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  Uh but I do speak German. Uh but but but the<00:32:01.679> point<00:32:02.000> is<00:32:02.320> that<00:32:03.600> I<00:32:03.840> don't<00:32:04.000> think<00:32:04.159> it's
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  the point is that I don't think it's
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  the point is that I don't think it's that<00:32:04.720> different.<00:32:05.600> It's<00:32:05.919> more<00:32:06.240> about<00:32:06.559> the
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  that different. It's more about the
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  that different. It's more about the setup.<00:32:07.279> You<00:32:07.440> need<00:32:07.600> to<00:32:07.840> learn<00:32:08.240> how<00:32:08.640> things<00:32:09.039> are
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  setup. You need to learn how things are
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  setup. You need to learn how things are done<00:32:10.480> uh<00:32:10.880> in<00:32:11.120> the<00:32:11.519> Swedish<00:32:12.000> system<00:32:12.559> system
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  done uh in the Swedish system system
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  done uh in the Swedish system system when<00:32:13.120> you<00:32:13.279> move<00:32:13.519> to<00:32:13.679> Sweden.<00:32:14.559> Uh<00:32:15.679> what<00:32:16.000> is<00:32:16.399> a
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  when you move to Sweden. Uh what is a
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  when you move to Sweden. Uh what is a different<00:32:17.440> uh<00:32:18.080> government<00:32:18.559> institution
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  different uh government institution
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  different uh government institution called<00:32:19.679> in<00:32:19.919> Sweden?<00:32:20.399> Where<00:32:20.559> do<00:32:20.720> I<00:32:20.960> approach
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  called in Sweden? Where do I approach
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  called in Sweden? Where do I approach when<00:32:22.000> I<00:32:22.240> need<00:32:22.480> a<00:32:22.720> certain<00:32:23.039> document<00:32:23.919> uh<00:32:24.159> in
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  when I need a certain document uh in
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  when I need a certain document uh in Sweden?<00:32:25.279> Uh<00:32:25.760> so<00:32:25.919> it's<00:32:26.320> more<00:32:26.720> all<00:32:26.960> these<00:32:27.279> things
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  Sweden? Uh so it's more all these things
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  Sweden? Uh so it's more all these things we<00:32:28.159> take<00:32:28.399> for<00:32:28.640> granted<00:32:29.360> in<00:32:29.679> the<00:32:29.919> country<00:32:30.399> where
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  we take for granted in the country where
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  we take for granted in the country where we<00:32:31.519> are<00:32:32.640> born<00:32:33.360> where<00:32:33.600> we<00:32:33.919> know<00:32:34.080> the<00:32:34.399> system<00:32:35.200> uh
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  we are born where we know the system uh
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  we are born where we know the system uh where<00:32:36.000> this<00:32:36.240> is<00:32:36.480> just<00:32:36.880> natural<00:32:37.360> to<00:32:37.440> us.<00:32:37.919> But
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  where this is just natural to us. But
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  where this is just natural to us. But the<00:32:38.880> truth<00:32:39.120> is<00:32:39.760> uh<00:32:40.000> I<00:32:40.320> have<00:32:40.559> in<00:32:40.880> my<00:32:41.039> past<00:32:41.360> career
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  the truth is uh I have in my past career
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  the truth is uh I have in my past career worked<00:32:43.200> um<00:32:44.320> in<00:32:44.880> a<00:32:45.120> couple<00:32:45.279> of<00:32:45.440> companies<00:32:46.320> uh
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  worked um in a couple of companies uh
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  worked um in a couple of companies uh where<00:32:46.799> we<00:32:47.120> had<00:32:47.760> um<00:32:49.120> uh<00:32:49.279> also<00:32:49.679> Swedish<00:32:50.640> uh
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  where we had um uh also Swedish uh
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  where we had um uh also Swedish uh officers.<00:32:51.919> So<00:32:52.240> I<00:32:52.559> know<00:32:53.039> from<00:32:53.360> a<00:32:53.679> business
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  officers. So I know from a business
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  officers. So I know from a business perspective<00:32:55.039> a<00:32:55.360> lot<00:32:55.519> about<00:32:56.000> how<00:32:56.399> things<00:32:56.799> are
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  perspective a lot about how things are
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  perspective a lot about how things are working<00:32:57.679> in<00:32:58.000> Sweden<00:32:59.039> uh<00:32:59.200> but<00:32:59.440> not<00:32:59.600> so<00:32:59.840> much<00:33:00.000> on
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  working in Sweden uh but not so much on
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  working in Sweden uh but not so much on the<00:33:00.399> private<00:33:00.720> side.<00:33:01.200> So<00:33:01.440> I<00:33:01.600> had<00:33:01.760> to<00:33:01.919> learn<00:33:02.080> a
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  the private side. So I had to learn a
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  the private side. So I had to learn a few<00:33:02.480> things<00:33:03.039> and<00:33:03.279> then<00:33:03.600> I<00:33:03.919> also<00:33:04.240> made<00:33:04.480> it
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  few things and then I also made it
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  few things and then I also made it slightly<00:33:05.440> more<00:33:05.760> complicated<00:33:06.320> for<00:33:06.640> myself
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  slightly more complicated for myself
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  slightly more complicated for myself choosing<00:33:07.919> not<00:33:08.080> to<00:33:08.320> work<00:33:08.480> in<00:33:08.799> Copenhagen<00:33:09.440> but
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  choosing not to work in Copenhagen but
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  choosing not to work in Copenhagen but to<00:33:09.919> work<00:33:10.080> in<00:33:10.320> Germany<00:33:10.960> where<00:33:11.919> the<00:33:13.360> son's
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  to work in Germany where the son's
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  to work in Germany where the son's region<00:33:14.720> is<00:33:15.519> uh<00:33:15.760> not<00:33:16.320> applicable.<00:33:17.120> Uh<00:33:17.440> so<00:33:17.600> that
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  region is uh not applicable. Uh so that
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  region is uh not applicable. Uh so that means<00:33:17.919> that<00:33:18.080> there's<00:33:18.320> a<00:33:18.480> lot<00:33:18.559> of<00:33:18.640> things<00:33:18.799> that
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  means that there's a lot of things that
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  means that there's a lot of things that are<00:33:19.200> slightly<00:33:19.519> different<00:33:19.760> when<00:33:20.080> you<00:33:20.320> are
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  are slightly different when you are
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  are slightly different when you are working<00:33:20.880> in<00:33:21.279> Germany<00:33:21.679> and<00:33:22.080> living<00:33:22.320> in<00:33:22.559> Sweden.
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  It's<00:33:26.480> easy<00:33:26.720> to<00:33:26.960> romanticize<00:33:27.760> moving<00:33:28.159> to
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  It's easy to romanticize moving to
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  It's easy to romanticize moving to another<00:33:28.799> country,<00:33:29.679> especially<00:33:30.080> within
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  another country, especially within
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  another country, especially within Europe<00:33:30.799> where<00:33:31.120> borders<00:33:31.600> feel<00:33:31.919> almost
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  Europe where borders feel almost
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  Europe where borders feel almost invisible.<00:33:33.200> But<00:33:33.440> anyone<00:33:33.840> who's<00:33:34.240> actually
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  invisible. But anyone who's actually
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  invisible. But anyone who's actually done<00:33:34.799> it<00:33:35.200> knows<00:33:35.440> that<00:33:35.679> the<00:33:35.919> real<00:33:36.159> challenge
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  done it knows that the real challenge
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  done it knows that the real challenge often<00:33:37.039> isn't<00:33:37.360> the<00:33:37.600> move<00:33:37.760> itself.<00:33:38.799> It's
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  often isn't the move itself. It's
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  often isn't the move itself. It's navigating<00:33:39.679> all<00:33:39.840> the<00:33:40.080> little<00:33:40.320> systems<00:33:40.799> behind
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  navigating all the little systems behind
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  navigating all the little systems behind the<00:33:41.279> scenes<00:33:41.600> that<00:33:41.840> nobody<00:33:42.240> tells<00:33:42.480> you<00:33:42.720> about
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  the scenes that nobody tells you about
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  the scenes that nobody tells you about until<00:33:43.760> you're<00:33:44.080> in<00:33:44.320> the<00:33:44.480> middle<00:33:44.720> of<00:33:44.880> them.
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  until you're in the middle of them.
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  until you're in the middle of them. Anecdotally,<00:33:48.080> it<00:33:48.240> took<00:33:48.480> me<00:33:48.640> a<00:33:48.799> year<00:33:48.960> and<00:33:49.039> a
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  Anecdotally, it took me a year and a
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  Anecdotally, it took me a year and a half<00:33:49.279> to<00:33:49.519> deal<00:33:49.679> with<00:33:49.760> all<00:33:50.000> the<00:33:50.159> bureaucracy
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  half to deal with all the bureaucracy
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  half to deal with all the bureaucracy due<00:33:51.039> to<00:33:51.120> having<00:33:51.360> lived<00:33:51.600> in<00:33:51.760> several<00:33:52.159> different
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  due to having lived in several different
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  due to having lived in several different European<00:33:53.039> countries<00:33:53.760> and<00:33:54.000> the<00:33:54.240> US<00:33:55.279> just<00:33:55.440> to
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  European countries and the US just to
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  European countries and the US just to get<00:33:55.919> married.
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  get married.
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  get married. What<00:33:58.559> would<00:33:58.720> your<00:33:59.039> life<00:33:59.360> look<00:33:59.600> like<00:34:00.480> today<00:34:00.960> had
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  What would your life look like today had
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  What would your life look like today had you<00:34:01.519> not<00:34:02.640> taken<00:34:02.960> the<00:34:03.200> decision<00:34:03.519> to<00:34:03.760> move<00:34:04.799> to
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  you not taken the decision to move to
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  you not taken the decision to move to Malmet?
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  Malmet?
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  Malmet? my<00:34:07.919> life<00:34:08.159> would<00:34:08.560> probably<00:34:09.679> uh
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  not<00:34:14.320> be<00:34:14.560> that<00:34:14.879> different<00:34:15.359> except<00:34:15.679> for<00:34:15.919> my
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  not be that different except for my
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  not be that different except for my private<00:34:16.480> life.<00:34:17.440> So<00:34:17.599> I<00:34:17.839> don't<00:34:18.000> think<00:34:18.240> my
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  private life. So I don't think my
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  private life. So I don't think my business<00:34:18.960> life<00:34:19.280> would<00:34:19.599> have<00:34:19.760> been<00:34:20.480> that
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  business life would have been that
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  business life would have been that different<00:34:22.320> uh<00:34:22.560> than<00:34:22.720> it<00:34:22.960> is<00:34:23.119> today<00:34:23.520> because<00:34:24.480> I
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  different uh than it is today because I
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  different uh than it is today because I was<00:34:24.960> focused<00:34:25.359> on<00:34:25.679> finding<00:34:26.159> something<00:34:26.560> that
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  was focused on finding something that
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  was focused on finding something that meant<00:34:28.000> something<00:34:28.320> to<00:34:28.480> me<00:34:28.720> as<00:34:28.879> I<00:34:29.119> mentioned.<00:34:30.000> Uh
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  meant something to me as I mentioned. Uh
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  meant something to me as I mentioned. Uh so<00:34:30.720> work-wise<00:34:31.440> I<00:34:31.599> would<00:34:31.760> probably<00:34:32.079> have<00:34:32.320> found
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  so work-wise I would probably have found
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  so work-wise I would probably have found something<00:34:33.520> either<00:34:33.919> similar<00:34:34.480> not<00:34:34.720> might<00:34:34.960> not
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  something either similar not might not
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  something either similar not might not be<00:34:35.839> be<00:34:36.159> a<00:34:36.399> commuting<00:34:36.879> job<00:34:37.200> like<00:34:37.440> like<00:34:37.760> this<00:34:38.000> is
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  be be a commuting job like like this is
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  be be a commuting job like like this is but<00:34:38.960> I<00:34:39.280> probably<00:34:39.679> would<00:34:39.919> have<00:34:40.079> worked<00:34:40.320> in<00:34:40.639> some
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  but I probably would have worked in some
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  but I probably would have worked in some international<00:34:41.919> oriented<00:34:42.560> company<00:34:42.960> anyway
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  international oriented company anyway
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  international oriented company anyway because<00:34:44.159> that<00:34:44.399> is<00:34:44.480> where<00:34:44.720> my<00:34:44.960> my<00:34:45.520> I<00:34:45.839> would
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  because that is where my my I would
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  because that is where my my I would believe<00:34:46.560> my<00:34:46.800> strength<00:34:47.119> is<00:34:47.280> and<00:34:47.599> also<00:34:48.000> my<00:34:48.240> my
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  believe my strength is and also my my
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  believe my strength is and also my my interest<00:34:50.000> uh<00:34:50.240> working<00:34:50.560> internationally
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  interest uh working internationally
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  interest uh working internationally private<00:34:52.720> I<00:34:52.960> would<00:34:53.119> say<00:34:53.280> that<00:34:53.520> is<00:34:53.839> probably
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  private I would say that is probably
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  private I would say that is probably where<00:34:54.639> the<00:34:55.200> big<00:34:55.520> difference<00:34:55.919> is<00:34:56.240> that<00:34:56.560> today
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  where the big difference is that today
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  where the big difference is that today we<00:34:57.280> are<00:34:57.440> living<00:34:57.760> together<00:34:58.560> even<00:34:58.800> though<00:34:59.119> I'm
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  we are living together even though I'm
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  we are living together even though I'm commuting<00:35:00.079> not<00:35:00.400> that<00:35:00.640> much<00:35:00.880> at<00:35:01.040> home.<00:35:01.680> My
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  commuting not that much at home. My
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  commuting not that much at home. My boyfriend<00:35:02.320> also<00:35:02.640> have<00:35:02.800> a<00:35:02.960> job<00:35:03.119> where<00:35:03.359> he's
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  boyfriend also have a job where he's
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  boyfriend also have a job where he's commuting<00:35:04.880> uh<00:35:05.599> working<00:35:05.839> in<00:35:06.000> the<00:35:06.160> airline
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  commuting uh working in the airline
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  commuting uh working in the airline industry.<00:35:07.520> So,<00:35:08.720> we've<00:35:09.040> been<00:35:09.200> used<00:35:09.440> to
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  industry. So, we've been used to
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  industry. So, we've been used to traveling,<00:35:11.040> both<00:35:11.280> of<00:35:11.440> us.<00:35:11.920> Uh<00:35:12.560> so,<00:35:12.800> so<00:35:13.200> that's
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  traveling, both of us. Uh so, so that's
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  traveling, both of us. Uh so, so that's actually<00:35:14.240> uh<00:35:14.480> pretty<00:35:14.880> easy<00:35:15.520> and<00:35:15.760> not
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  actually uh pretty easy and not
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  actually uh pretty easy and not something<00:35:16.400> we
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  something we
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  something we So,<00:35:16.960> I'm<00:35:17.119> sorry,<00:35:17.280> but<00:35:17.599> your<00:35:17.760> your<00:35:18.000> boyfriend,
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  So, I'm sorry, but your your boyfriend,
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  So, I'm sorry, but your your boyfriend, he<00:35:18.960> he<00:35:19.760> just<00:35:20.000> has<00:35:20.160> to<00:35:20.320> travel<00:35:20.560> to<00:35:20.880> Cast.
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  he he just has to travel to Cast.
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  he he just has to travel to Cast. Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yes. Oh,<00:35:23.040> that's<00:35:23.280> easy.
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  Oh, that's easy.
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  Oh, that's easy. Yes.<00:35:24.720> is<00:35:24.880> that<00:35:25.359> there's<00:35:26.000> the<00:35:26.320> the<00:35:26.320> the
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  Yes. is that there's the the the
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  Yes. is that there's the the the distance<00:35:27.359> between<00:35:27.760> where<00:35:28.000> we<00:35:28.240> live<00:35:28.880> and<00:35:29.200> the
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  distance between where we live and the
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  distance between where we live and the airport<00:35:29.839> is<00:35:30.240> actually<00:35:30.800> shorter<00:35:31.760> in<00:35:32.160> timewise
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  airport is actually shorter in timewise
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  airport is actually shorter in timewise than<00:35:33.760> it<00:35:34.000> is<00:35:34.240> if<00:35:34.560> for<00:35:34.720> example<00:35:35.119> we<00:35:35.599> lived<00:35:35.839> in
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  than it is if for example we lived in
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  than it is if for example we lived in the<00:35:36.160> northern<00:35:36.480> part<00:35:36.720> of<00:35:36.880> Copenhagen.
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  the northern part of Copenhagen.
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  the northern part of Copenhagen. Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. So<00:35:39.760> um<00:35:40.000> so<00:35:40.240> in<00:35:40.480> that<00:35:40.640> respect<00:35:41.359> it<00:35:41.680> is<00:35:42.240> not
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  So um so in that respect it is not
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  So um so in that respect it is not different.<00:35:43.280> So<00:35:43.520> so<00:35:43.680> he's<00:35:44.000> commuting<00:35:44.320> to<00:35:44.640> to
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  different. So so he's commuting to to
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  different. So so he's commuting to to Copenhagen<00:35:45.440> airport<00:35:45.760> and<00:35:46.000> and<00:35:46.560> yeah<00:35:46.880> I'm<00:35:47.119> just
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  Copenhagen airport and and yeah I'm just
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  Copenhagen airport and and yeah I'm just commuting<00:35:47.760> from<00:35:48.000> from<00:35:48.320> Copenhagen<00:35:48.960> airport
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  commuting from from Copenhagen airport
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  commuting from from Copenhagen airport slightly<00:35:49.920> longer.
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  slightly longer.
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  slightly longer. How<00:35:51.040> much<00:35:51.200> has<00:35:51.359> your<00:35:51.599> personal<00:35:51.839> life<00:35:52.079> changed
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  How much has your personal life changed
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  How much has your personal life changed since<00:35:52.720> you<00:35:52.960> moved<00:35:53.119> in<00:35:53.359> together?<00:35:54.240> I<00:35:54.480> think<00:35:54.560> you
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  since you moved in together? I think you
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  since you moved in together? I think you can<00:35:55.040> say<00:35:55.359> that<00:35:56.000> when<00:35:56.720> we<00:35:57.040> had<00:35:57.359> our<00:35:57.760> primary
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  can say that when we had our primary
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  can say that when we had our primary base<00:35:59.119> in<00:35:59.599> August,
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  base in August,
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  base in August, uh<00:36:01.760> even<00:36:02.000> though<00:36:02.160> he<00:36:02.400> was<00:36:02.800> the<00:36:02.960> one<00:36:03.200> commuting
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  uh even though he was the one commuting
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  uh even though he was the one commuting because<00:36:03.920> he<00:36:04.079> was<00:36:04.560> often<00:36:04.960> in<00:36:05.200> August<00:36:05.599> and<00:36:05.760> I<00:36:05.920> was
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  because he was often in August and I was
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  because he was often in August and I was not<00:36:06.240> that<00:36:06.400> often<00:36:06.640> in<00:36:06.800> Copenhagen.<00:36:07.920> Uh<00:36:08.320> then
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  not that often in Copenhagen. Uh then
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  not that often in Copenhagen. Uh then you<00:36:08.720> can<00:36:08.800> say<00:36:09.040> we<00:36:09.200> had<00:36:09.359> our<00:36:09.599> base<00:36:09.920> in<00:36:10.240> August
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  you can say we had our base in August
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  you can say we had our base in August and<00:36:12.560> most<00:36:12.880> of<00:36:13.119> my<00:36:13.359> family,<00:36:13.920> most<00:36:14.160> of<00:36:14.320> my<00:36:14.480> my
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  and most of my family, most of my my
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  and most of my family, most of my my private<00:36:15.440> friends<00:36:16.160> are<00:36:16.560> located<00:36:17.599> somewhere<00:36:18.160> in
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  private friends are located somewhere in
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  private friends are located somewhere in Jutland,<00:36:19.440> not<00:36:19.680> necessarily<00:36:20.079> in<00:36:20.320> August,<00:36:20.720> but
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  Jutland, not necessarily in August, but
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  Jutland, not necessarily in August, but somewhere<00:36:21.760> in<00:36:21.920> Jutland.<00:36:22.400> So<00:36:22.560> that<00:36:22.800> meant<00:36:22.960> that
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  somewhere in Jutland. So that meant that
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  somewhere in Jutland. So that meant that when<00:36:23.760> we<00:36:23.920> were<00:36:24.079> living<00:36:24.320> there<00:36:24.720> then<00:36:25.280> I<00:36:25.599> had<00:36:25.920> all
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  when we were living there then I had all
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  when we were living there then I had all my<00:36:26.400> friends<00:36:26.720> and<00:36:27.040> family<00:36:27.440> close<00:36:27.680> by<00:36:29.119> but<00:36:29.599> he
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  my friends and family close by but he
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  my friends and family close by but he was<00:36:30.000> the<00:36:30.160> one<00:36:30.320> having<00:36:30.640> his<00:36:30.880> friends<00:36:31.599> and<00:36:32.079> his
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  was the one having his friends and his
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  was the one having his friends and his family<00:36:33.440> not<00:36:33.760> so<00:36:34.000> close.
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  family not so close.
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  family not so close. Now<00:36:35.680> we<00:36:35.839> have<00:36:36.000> moved<00:36:36.160> to<00:36:36.320> Malmir<00:36:36.960> and<00:36:37.119> then
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  Now we have moved to Malmir and then
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  Now we have moved to Malmir and then it's<00:36:37.680> just<00:36:37.920> the<00:36:38.400> o<00:36:38.480> opposite<00:36:39.040> that<00:36:39.200> that<00:36:39.760> he's
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  it's just the o opposite that that he's
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  it's just the o opposite that that he's still<00:36:40.640> close<00:36:40.880> with<00:36:41.119> many<00:36:41.359> of<00:36:41.520> his<00:36:41.680> friend<00:36:42.000> who
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  still close with many of his friend who
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  still close with many of his friend who actually<00:36:42.560> also<00:36:42.960> some<00:36:43.119> of<00:36:43.280> them<00:36:43.520> live<00:36:43.680> in
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  actually also some of them live in
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  actually also some of them live in Sweden<00:36:44.640> and<00:36:44.880> then<00:36:45.280> I'm<00:36:45.680> a<00:36:45.920> little<00:36:46.000> further
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  Sweden and then I'm a little further
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  Sweden and then I'm a little further away<00:36:46.880> from<00:36:47.200> my<00:36:47.520> family<00:36:47.839> and<00:36:48.079> and<00:36:48.160> and<00:36:48.720> my
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  away from my family and and and my
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  away from my family and and and my friends<00:36:49.359> in<00:36:50.079> the<00:36:50.240> Jutland<00:36:51.119> area
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  friends in the Jutland area
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  friends in the Jutland area and<00:36:52.480> you<00:36:52.640> may<00:36:52.880> be<00:36:53.119> developing<00:36:53.599> friends<00:36:53.920> in
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  and you may be developing friends in
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  and you may be developing friends in Germany<00:36:54.640> now.
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  Germany now.
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  Germany now. Yes,<00:36:56.400> I<00:36:56.960> I<00:36:57.280> am<00:36:57.520> also.<00:36:57.920> Yes,<00:36:58.880> you<00:36:59.119> get<00:36:59.280> to<00:36:59.520> know
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  Yes, I I am also. Yes, you get to know
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  Yes, I I am also. Yes, you get to know people<00:37:00.000> down<00:37:00.320> here.<00:37:00.800> Of<00:37:00.960> course,<00:37:01.520> culture<00:37:01.920> is
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  people down here. Of course, culture is
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  people down here. Of course, culture is different.<00:37:02.800> uh<00:37:02.960> I<00:37:03.200> would<00:37:03.359> say<00:37:04.079> it's<00:37:04.320> it's
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  different. uh I would say it's it's
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  different. uh I would say it's it's people<00:37:06.000> are<00:37:06.240> a<00:37:06.400> little<00:37:06.560> more<00:37:06.800> reserved<00:37:07.680> not
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  people are a little more reserved not
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  people are a little more reserved not necessarily<00:37:08.320> in<00:37:08.560> negative<00:37:09.040> way<00:37:09.599> uh<00:37:09.839> but<00:37:10.000> but
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  necessarily in negative way uh but but
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  necessarily in negative way uh but but but<00:37:10.560> just<00:37:10.720> a<00:37:10.880> little<00:37:11.040> more<00:37:11.200> reserved<00:37:11.760> so<00:37:12.720> uh<00:37:12.960> of
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  but just a little more reserved so uh of
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  but just a little more reserved so uh of course<00:37:13.440> the<00:37:13.760> main<00:37:14.160> peers<00:37:14.720> and<00:37:14.960> and<00:37:15.680> network<00:37:16.079> I
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  course the main peers and and network I
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  course the main peers and and network I have<00:37:16.480> down<00:37:16.720> here<00:37:16.880> is<00:37:17.040> of<00:37:17.280> course<00:37:17.520> related<00:37:18.000> to
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  have down here is of course related to
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  have down here is of course related to what<00:37:18.560> I'm<00:37:18.720> doing<00:37:18.960> right<00:37:19.280> here<00:37:20.000> uh<00:37:20.160> down<00:37:20.400> here
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  what I'm doing right here uh down here
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  what I'm doing right here uh down here and<00:37:21.359> that<00:37:21.599> is<00:37:21.760> also<00:37:22.640> to<00:37:22.880> be<00:37:23.119> honest<00:37:23.520> my<00:37:23.839> focus
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  and that is also to be honest my focus
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  and that is also to be honest my focus in<00:37:24.880> the<00:37:25.119> days<00:37:25.359> I'm<00:37:25.599> down<00:37:25.839> here<00:37:26.320> uh<00:37:26.400> that<00:37:26.640> is<00:37:26.880> my
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  in the days I'm down here uh that is my
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  in the days I'm down here uh that is my my<00:37:27.359> work<00:37:27.599> and<00:37:27.760> then<00:37:28.320> I<00:37:28.800> leave<00:37:29.040> aside<00:37:29.520> the<00:37:30.079> more
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  my work and then I leave aside the more
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  my work and then I leave aside the more private<00:37:30.960> side<00:37:31.200> and<00:37:31.440> then<00:37:31.599> I<00:37:31.839> take<00:37:32.079> that<00:37:32.400> when
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  private side and then I take that when
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  private side and then I take that when I'm<00:37:33.280> in<00:37:33.520> Sweden<00:37:33.839> or<00:37:34.160> I<00:37:34.400> travel<00:37:34.640> to<00:37:34.800> Jland<00:37:35.280> to
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  I'm in Sweden or I travel to Jland to
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  I'm in Sweden or I travel to Jland to visit<00:37:35.760> friends<00:37:36.079> and<00:37:36.320> family.
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  visit friends and family.
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  visit friends and family. Do<00:37:37.040> you<00:37:37.200> have<00:37:37.280> any<00:37:37.520> advice<00:37:38.240> for<00:37:38.640> someone<00:37:39.520> who
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  Do you have any advice for someone who
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  Do you have any advice for someone who is<00:37:40.320> going<00:37:40.640> through<00:37:41.920> a<00:37:42.240> similar<00:37:43.280> move<00:37:43.599> or<00:37:44.320> going
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  is going through a similar move or going
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  is going through a similar move or going through<00:37:44.800> a<00:37:45.040> similar<00:37:46.240> decision-m<00:37:47.040> process?
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  through a similar decision-m process?
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  through a similar decision-m process? I<00:37:48.400> would<00:37:48.560> say<00:37:49.280> I<00:37:49.599> think<00:37:49.680> it's<00:37:50.000> important<00:37:50.560> that
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  I would say I think it's important that
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  I would say I think it's important that you<00:37:51.200> think<00:37:51.440> it<00:37:51.680> through<00:37:52.000> before<00:37:52.320> you<00:37:52.480> do<00:37:52.640> it.
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  you think it through before you do it.
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  you think it through before you do it. What<00:37:53.440> are<00:37:53.599> the<00:37:53.760> things<00:37:53.839> that<00:37:54.079> they<00:37:54.320> need<00:37:54.480> to
• 37:54
  What are the things that they need to
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  What are the things that they need to think<00:37:54.880> through?<00:37:55.839> There<00:37:56.079> are<00:37:56.320> persons<00:37:57.040> that
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  think through? There are persons that
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  think through? There are persons that get<00:37:58.960> energy<00:37:59.520> from<00:38:00.000> being<00:38:00.320> with<00:38:00.640> their<00:38:00.960> friends
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  get energy from being with their friends
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  get energy from being with their friends and<00:38:01.680> family<00:38:02.240> on<00:38:02.560> a<00:38:03.440> very<00:38:03.760> regular<00:38:04.240> basis
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  and family on a very regular basis
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  and family on a very regular basis and<00:38:06.000> where<00:38:06.320> that<00:38:06.560> is<00:38:06.800> important<00:38:07.200> to<00:38:07.440> them.<00:38:08.640> If
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  and where that is important to them. If
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  and where that is important to them. If that<00:38:09.760> is<00:38:10.079> a<00:38:11.119> uh<00:38:11.359> how<00:38:11.599> you<00:38:11.839> feel<00:38:12.880> then<00:38:13.119> you
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  that is a uh how you feel then you
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  that is a uh how you feel then you should<00:38:13.680> think<00:38:13.920> about<00:38:14.160> it<00:38:14.480> because<00:38:15.359> depending
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  should think about it because depending
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  should think about it because depending on<00:38:16.079> what<00:38:16.320> kind<00:38:16.560> of<00:38:16.720> job<00:38:16.960> you<00:38:17.200> have<00:38:18.400> then<00:38:19.119> there
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  on what kind of job you have then there
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  on what kind of job you have then there will<00:38:19.599> be<00:38:19.839> things<00:38:20.079> that<00:38:20.400> are<00:38:20.640> more<00:38:20.880> difficult.
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  will be things that are more difficult.
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  will be things that are more difficult. Uh<00:38:22.480> and<00:38:23.200> uh<00:38:23.599> do<00:38:23.839> I<00:38:24.079> see<00:38:24.240> my<00:38:24.560> friends<00:38:24.880> in<00:38:25.119> in<00:38:25.119> in
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  Uh and uh do I see my friends in in in
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  Uh and uh do I see my friends in in in in<00:38:25.839> Jutland<00:38:26.400> often?<00:38:27.359> Not<00:38:27.599> necessarily.<00:38:28.400> We
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  in Jutland often? Not necessarily. We
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  in Jutland often? Not necessarily. We are<00:38:28.720> in<00:38:28.960> contact<00:38:29.599> uh<00:38:30.000> phones<00:38:30.800> uh<00:38:31.280> emails<00:38:32.000> uh
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  are in contact uh phones uh emails uh
• 38:32
  are in contact uh phones uh emails uh you<00:38:32.400> know<00:38:32.720> text<00:38:33.040> messages<00:38:33.680> etc.<00:38:34.320> But<00:38:34.560> we<00:38:34.800> don't
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  you know text messages etc. But we don't
• 38:35
  you know text messages etc. But we don't necessarily<00:38:35.599> see<00:38:35.760> each<00:38:36.000> other<00:38:36.640> uh<00:38:36.720> that
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  necessarily see each other uh that
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  necessarily see each other uh that often.<00:38:37.920> But<00:38:38.320> when<00:38:38.640> we<00:38:38.800> then<00:38:39.040> see<00:38:39.200> each<00:38:39.359> other
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  often. But when we then see each other
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  often. But when we then see each other then<00:38:39.839> it's<00:38:40.079> like<00:38:40.320> we<00:38:40.560> saw<00:38:40.800> each<00:38:40.960> other
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  then it's like we saw each other
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  then it's like we saw each other yesterday.<00:38:41.839> But<00:38:42.160> if<00:38:42.400> that<00:38:42.640> is<00:38:42.800> a<00:38:43.040> strong<00:38:43.359> need
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  yesterday. But if that is a strong need
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  yesterday. But if that is a strong need in<00:38:43.839> your<00:38:44.079> life<00:38:45.200> then<00:38:46.640> it<00:38:46.880> is<00:38:47.040> something<00:38:47.280> you
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  in your life then it is something you
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  in your life then it is something you have<00:38:47.680> to<00:38:47.839> think<00:38:48.000> about<00:38:48.320> because<00:38:48.960> that's<00:38:49.440> not
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  have to think about because that's not
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  have to think about because that's not going<00:38:49.760> to<00:38:49.920> happen.<00:38:50.640> Even<00:38:50.960> though<00:38:51.200> you<00:38:51.359> say
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  going to happen. Even though you say
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  going to happen. Even though you say yeah<00:38:51.839> but<00:38:52.079> it's<00:38:52.320> only<00:38:52.560> 300<00:38:52.960> and<00:38:53.200> 400<00:38:53.520> km<00:38:54.400> I<00:38:54.640> can
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  yeah but it's only 300 and 400 km I can
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  yeah but it's only 300 and 400 km I can come<00:38:55.200> every<00:38:55.440> second<00:38:55.680> weekend<00:38:56.079> but<00:38:56.560> in<00:38:56.880> reality
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  come every second weekend but in reality
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  come every second weekend but in reality that<00:38:57.760> doesn't<00:38:58.079> happen.
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  that doesn't happen.
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  that doesn't happen. Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. Uh<00:38:59.520> because<00:39:00.079> we<00:39:00.400> all<00:39:00.560> have<00:39:00.720> a<00:39:00.960> busy<00:39:01.280> daily<00:39:01.680> life
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  Uh because we all have a busy daily life
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  Uh because we all have a busy daily life where<00:39:02.160> we<00:39:02.400> have<00:39:02.480> to<00:39:02.640> go<00:39:02.720> to<00:39:02.880> work.<00:39:03.200> Whether<00:39:03.440> you
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  where we have to go to work. Whether you
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  where we have to go to work. Whether you are<00:39:04.240> a<00:39:04.480> in<00:39:04.640> a<00:39:04.800> senior<00:39:05.200> position<00:39:05.599> or<00:39:05.920> in<00:39:06.160> your
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  are a in a senior position or in your
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  are a in a senior position or in your junior<00:39:06.960> position<00:39:07.440> it<00:39:07.599> doesn't<00:39:07.839> really
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  junior position it doesn't really
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  junior position it doesn't really matter.<00:39:08.880> We<00:39:09.119> have<00:39:09.280> our<00:39:09.520> job.<00:39:09.839> We<00:39:10.000> have<00:39:10.160> our
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  matter. We have our job. We have our
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  matter. We have our job. We have our things<00:39:11.119> to<00:39:11.359> do.<00:39:11.760> We<00:39:11.920> also<00:39:12.240> need<00:39:12.480> to<00:39:12.560> to<00:39:12.640> to<00:39:13.200> go
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  things to do. We also need to to to go
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  things to do. We also need to to to go out<00:39:13.520> and<00:39:13.760> exercise<00:39:14.160> a<00:39:14.320> bit.<00:39:14.880> uh<00:39:15.040> you<00:39:15.280> know<00:39:16.079> uh
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  out and exercise a bit. uh you know uh
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  out and exercise a bit. uh you know uh so<00:39:17.680> and<00:39:17.920> we<00:39:18.160> also<00:39:18.480> need<00:39:18.640> to<00:39:19.040> gear<00:39:19.359> down<00:39:19.680> and<00:39:19.839> and
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  so and we also need to gear down and and
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  so and we also need to gear down and and then<00:39:20.400> also<00:39:20.720> sometimes<00:39:21.200> relax<00:39:22.240> doing<00:39:23.119> not
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  then also sometimes relax doing not
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  then also sometimes relax doing not necessarily<00:39:23.920> nothing<00:39:24.240> but<00:39:24.560> reading<00:39:24.880> a<00:39:25.040> book
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  necessarily nothing but reading a book
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  necessarily nothing but reading a book uh<00:39:25.839> you<00:39:26.000> know<00:39:26.640> doing<00:39:26.960> something<00:39:27.359> else<00:39:27.680> that<00:39:28.320> uh
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  uh you know doing something else that uh
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  uh you know doing something else that uh is<00:39:28.880> important<00:39:29.200> to<00:39:29.440> you.
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  is important to you.
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  is important to you. Yeah,
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  Yeah,
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  Yeah, that<00:39:32.800> sounds<00:39:33.119> obvious<00:39:34.079> but<00:39:34.320> it's<00:39:34.560> something
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  that sounds obvious but it's something
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  that sounds obvious but it's something we<00:39:34.960> often<00:39:35.359> ignore<00:39:35.680> when<00:39:36.000> making<00:39:36.240> big
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  we often ignore when making big
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  we often ignore when making big decisions.<00:39:37.760> We<00:39:38.000> imagine<00:39:38.400> we'll<00:39:38.640> use<00:39:38.880> every
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  decisions. We imagine we'll use every
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  decisions. We imagine we'll use every free<00:39:39.520> weekend<00:39:39.839> to<00:39:40.160> travel,<00:39:40.720> visit<00:39:41.040> people,
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  free weekend to travel, visit people,
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  free weekend to travel, visit people, and<00:39:41.680> stay<00:39:41.920> connected.<00:39:42.640> Real<00:39:43.040> life<00:39:43.839> has<00:39:44.000> a<00:39:44.240> way
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  and stay connected. Real life has a way
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  and stay connected. Real life has a way of<00:39:44.560> filling<00:39:44.880> the<00:39:45.119> calendar.<00:39:46.160> Sometimes
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  of filling the calendar. Sometimes
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  of filling the calendar. Sometimes protecting<00:39:47.280> time<00:39:47.520> to<00:39:47.680> read<00:39:47.839> a<00:39:48.079> book<00:39:48.560> or<00:39:48.880> simply
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  protecting time to read a book or simply
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  protecting time to read a book or simply slow<00:39:49.599> down<00:39:50.320> is<00:39:50.640> not<00:39:50.800> laziness.<00:39:52.160> It's<00:39:52.400> part<00:39:52.640> of
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  slow down is not laziness. It's part of
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  slow down is not laziness. It's part of making<00:39:53.119> the<00:39:53.359> new<00:39:53.520> life<00:39:53.920> sustainable.
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  making the new life sustainable.
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  making the new life sustainable. I<00:39:56.480> grew<00:39:56.800> up<00:39:56.960> in<00:39:57.200> a<00:39:57.599> uh<00:39:58.160> a<00:39:58.400> small<00:39:58.640> city<00:39:59.200> uh<00:39:59.440> just
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  I grew up in a uh a small city uh just
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  I grew up in a uh a small city uh just south<00:40:00.079> of<00:40:00.640> B.<00:40:01.359> So<00:40:01.520> I'm<00:40:01.760> from<00:40:01.920> the<00:40:02.079> countryside.
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  south of B. So I'm from the countryside.
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  south of B. So I'm from the countryside. So,<00:40:03.839> so<00:40:04.240> really<00:40:05.200> you've<00:40:05.440> uprooted<00:40:06.079> yourself
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  So, so really you've uprooted yourself
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  So, so really you've uprooted yourself again<00:40:08.079> and<00:40:09.119> it's<00:40:09.680> almost<00:40:10.000> like<00:40:10.240> being<00:40:10.400> an
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  again and it's almost like being an
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  again and it's almost like being an expat<00:40:11.359> in<00:40:11.680> a<00:40:11.839> certain<00:40:12.079> way<00:40:13.040> because<00:40:13.680> you<00:40:14.000> don't
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  expat in a certain way because you don't
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  expat in a certain way because you don't have<00:40:14.400> your<00:40:14.720> close<00:40:15.119> friends<00:40:16.400> uh<00:40:16.640> near<00:40:16.880> you.<00:40:17.359> I
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  have your close friends uh near you. I
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  have your close friends uh near you. I mean,<00:40:17.760> maybe<00:40:18.000> it's<00:40:18.240> like<00:40:18.480> in<00:40:18.720> the<00:40:18.880> States
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  mean, maybe it's like in the States
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  mean, maybe it's like in the States moving<00:40:19.520> to<00:40:19.760> a<00:40:19.920> different<00:40:20.160> state,<00:40:21.040> right?<00:40:21.359> And
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  moving to a different state, right? And
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  moving to a different state, right? And and<00:40:21.839> even<00:40:22.079> if<00:40:22.320> the<00:40:22.560> state<00:40:22.800> was<00:40:23.040> next<00:40:23.359> door<00:40:23.599> to
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  and even if the state was next door to
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  and even if the state was next door to that<00:40:24.079> other<00:40:24.400> state,
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  that other state,
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  that other state, Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. you're<00:40:26.160> not<00:40:26.320> going<00:40:26.560> back<00:40:26.720> on<00:40:26.960> the<00:40:27.119> weekends
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  you're not going back on the weekends
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  you're not going back on the weekends and<00:40:27.920> you<00:40:28.160> won't<00:40:28.400> see<00:40:28.560> each<00:40:28.800> other<00:40:29.040> for<00:40:29.280> long
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  and you won't see each other for long
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  and you won't see each other for long periods<00:40:29.839> of<00:40:29.920> time.<00:40:30.160> you'll<00:40:30.480> go<00:40:30.720> during<00:40:31.200> maybe
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  periods of time. you'll go during maybe
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  periods of time. you'll go during maybe a<00:40:31.680> holiday<00:40:32.000> or<00:40:32.320> something<00:40:32.560> like<00:40:32.720> that,<00:40:33.359> but
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  a holiday or something like that, but
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  a holiday or something like that, but typically<00:40:34.000> you'll<00:40:34.240> want<00:40:34.400> to<00:40:34.480> travel<00:40:34.800> abroad
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  typically you'll want to travel abroad
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  typically you'll want to travel abroad during<00:40:35.839> the<00:40:36.000> holidays.<00:40:36.960> So,<00:40:37.119> you<00:40:37.280> won't<00:40:37.440> even
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  during the holidays. So, you won't even
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  during the holidays. So, you won't even do<00:40:37.839> that.
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  do that.
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  do that. And<00:40:39.200> and<00:40:39.520> I<00:40:39.839> think<00:40:40.000> about<00:40:40.720> people<00:40:40.960> who<00:40:41.200> have<00:40:41.359> a
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  And and I think about people who have a
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  And and I think about people who have a life<00:40:42.640> where<00:40:43.839> they're<00:40:44.160> around<00:40:44.400> the<00:40:44.640> friends
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  life where they're around the friends
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  life where they're around the friends that<00:40:45.280> they<00:40:45.599> had<00:40:46.000> from<00:40:46.320> their<00:40:47.119> childhood.<00:40:48.480> And
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  that they had from their childhood. And
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  that they had from their childhood. And you<00:40:49.200> know,<00:40:49.280> for<00:40:49.520> an<00:40:49.680> expat,<00:40:50.960> that<00:40:51.200> sounds<00:40:51.440> very
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  you know, for an expat, that sounds very
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  you know, for an expat, that sounds very cozy.<00:40:52.800> for<00:40:53.040> somebody<00:40:53.359> like<00:40:53.520> me<00:40:53.760> that<00:40:54.000> that<00:40:54.400> has
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  cozy. for somebody like me that that has
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  cozy. for somebody like me that that has been<00:40:54.800> a<00:40:54.960> serial<00:40:55.359> mover<00:40:56.160> most<00:40:56.480> of<00:40:56.640> their<00:40:56.880> life
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  been a serial mover most of their life
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  been a serial mover most of their life now.<00:40:57.440> I've<00:40:57.680> I've<00:40:58.000> stayed<00:40:58.240> put<00:40:58.480> for<00:40:58.720> the<00:40:58.880> last
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  now. I've I've stayed put for the last
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  now. I've I've stayed put for the last 15<00:40:59.520> years,<00:40:59.839> which<00:41:00.079> is<00:41:00.160> a<00:41:00.400> record<00:41:00.640> for<00:41:00.880> me.
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  15 years, which is a record for me.
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  15 years, which is a record for me. But<00:41:02.400> I<00:41:02.640> don't<00:41:02.880> really<00:41:03.119> have<00:41:03.280> any<00:41:03.520> roots
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  But I don't really have any roots
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  But I don't really have any roots anywhere.<00:41:04.880> I<00:41:05.200> have<00:41:05.359> friends<00:41:06.000> all<00:41:06.319> over<00:41:06.480> the
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  anywhere. I have friends all over the
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  anywhere. I have friends all over the place.<00:41:07.359> And<00:41:07.680> so<00:41:08.640> I<00:41:08.880> make<00:41:09.119> sure<00:41:09.280> that<00:41:09.520> when<00:41:09.760> I
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  place. And so I make sure that when I
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  place. And so I make sure that when I visit<00:41:10.560> a<00:41:10.880> city<00:41:11.520> that<00:41:11.760> I<00:41:12.079> actually<00:41:12.560> spend<00:41:12.960> time
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  visit a city that I actually spend time
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  visit a city that I actually spend time with<00:41:13.440> some<00:41:13.599> of<00:41:13.760> my<00:41:13.920> friends<00:41:14.240> and<00:41:14.480> it's<00:41:14.720> not
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  with some of my friends and it's not
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  with some of my friends and it's not just<00:41:15.040> business,<00:41:15.440> business,<00:41:15.839> business.<00:41:17.040> and
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  just business, business, business. and
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  just business, business, business. and and<00:41:17.680> it's<00:41:18.240> gone<00:41:18.480> to<00:41:18.640> the<00:41:18.800> point<00:41:18.960> of<00:41:19.119> like<00:41:19.440> half
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  and it's gone to the point of like half
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  and it's gone to the point of like half the<00:41:20.000> time<00:41:20.560> now,<00:41:21.200> especially<00:41:21.520> when<00:41:21.760> I'm<00:41:21.839> in
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  the time now, especially when I'm in
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  the time now, especially when I'm in Copenhagen<00:41:22.640> cuz<00:41:22.960> I<00:41:23.200> lived<00:41:23.440> in<00:41:23.599> Copenhagen<00:41:24.160> for
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  Copenhagen cuz I lived in Copenhagen for
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  Copenhagen cuz I lived in Copenhagen for many<00:41:24.640> years
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  many years
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  many years and<00:41:26.319> I<00:41:26.560> make<00:41:26.800> sure<00:41:26.960> that<00:41:27.200> I<00:41:27.359> I<00:41:27.760> spend<00:41:28.000> some<00:41:28.319> time
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  and I make sure that I I spend some time
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  and I make sure that I I spend some time with<00:41:28.880> all<00:41:29.119> the<00:41:29.280> different<00:41:29.520> friends.
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  with all the different friends.
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  with all the different friends. I'm<00:41:31.119> just<00:41:31.359> wondering,<00:41:31.920> do<00:41:32.160> you<00:41:32.319> feel
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  I'm just wondering, do you feel
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  I'm just wondering, do you feel um<00:41:34.079> a<00:41:34.400> little<00:41:34.560> bit<00:41:34.800> uprooted<00:41:36.079> now<00:41:36.319> that<00:41:36.480> you're
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  um a little bit uprooted now that you're
• 41:36
  um a little bit uprooted now that you're living<00:41:36.880> in<00:41:37.040> Malma,<00:41:37.599> working<00:41:37.920> in<00:41:38.480> Germany?<00:41:39.520> Uh
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  living in Malma, working in Germany? Uh
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  living in Malma, working in Germany? Uh does<00:41:40.560> that<00:41:41.040> enter<00:41:41.280> into<00:41:41.520> your<00:41:41.760> mind?
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  does that enter into your mind?
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  does that enter into your mind? Honestly,<00:41:43.440> I<00:41:44.400> don't<00:41:44.720> think<00:41:44.960> so.<00:41:45.440> I<00:41:45.760> think<00:41:45.920> I
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  Honestly, I don't think so. I think I
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  Honestly, I don't think so. I think I more<00:41:46.880> feel<00:41:47.440> that<00:41:48.880> home<00:41:49.200> is<00:41:49.520> where<00:41:49.760> I<00:41:50.079> close<00:41:50.400> my
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  more feel that home is where I close my
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  more feel that home is where I close my door.<00:41:51.680> Mhm.<00:41:52.800> So<00:41:53.119> to<00:41:53.359> me<00:41:54.000> me<00:41:54.400> the
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  door. Mhm. So to me me the
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  door. Mhm. So to me me the place<00:41:57.200> where<00:41:57.599> it<00:41:57.839> is<00:41:58.160> is<00:41:58.800> not<00:41:59.200> so<00:41:59.599> important.
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  place where it is is not so important.
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  place where it is is not so important. Of<00:42:00.960> course,<00:42:01.200> there's<00:42:01.440> a<00:42:01.680> difference<00:42:02.480> uh
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  Of course, there's a difference uh
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  Of course, there's a difference uh between
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  between
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  between living<00:42:04.560> in<00:42:04.720> Malmouth,<00:42:05.520> let's<00:42:05.680> say<00:42:05.920> 3<00:42:06.160> 400
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  living in Malmouth, let's say 3 400
• 42:06
  living in Malmouth, let's say 3 400 kilometers<00:42:07.119> away<00:42:07.440> from<00:42:07.680> friends<00:42:07.920> and<00:42:08.160> family
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  kilometers away from friends and family
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  kilometers away from friends and family compared<00:42:09.680> to<00:42:09.920> if<00:42:10.160> I<00:42:10.400> moved<00:42:10.640> to<00:42:10.960> Sydney<00:42:11.280> or
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  compared to if I moved to Sydney or
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  compared to if I moved to Sydney or Australia<00:42:12.480> uh<00:42:12.560> where<00:42:12.880> you<00:42:13.040> can<00:42:13.200> say<00:42:13.359> then
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  Australia uh where you can say then
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  Australia uh where you can say then you'll<00:42:13.920> be<00:42:14.079> home<00:42:14.640> once<00:42:14.960> every<00:42:15.200> year<00:42:16.000> etc.<00:42:16.880> But
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  you'll be home once every year etc. But
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  you'll be home once every year etc. But but<00:42:17.200> but<00:42:17.920> to<00:42:18.160> me<00:42:18.319> it's<00:42:18.640> more<00:42:18.880> a<00:42:19.119> matter<00:42:19.440> of
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  but but to me it's more a matter of
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  but but to me it's more a matter of prioritizing
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  prioritizing
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  prioritizing uh<00:42:21.680> that<00:42:22.079> that<00:42:22.800> uh<00:42:23.040> yes<00:42:23.440> we<00:42:23.760> go<00:42:24.000> home<00:42:24.560> to<00:42:25.520> uh
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  uh that that uh yes we go home to uh
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  uh that that uh yes we go home to uh family<00:42:26.319> birthdays<00:42:27.119> etc.<00:42:28.079> uh<00:42:28.400> and<00:42:28.640> we<00:42:28.800> we
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  family birthdays etc. uh and we we
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  family birthdays etc. uh and we we actually<00:42:29.839> plan<00:42:30.319> around<00:42:30.640> it<00:42:30.880> and<00:42:31.040> then<00:42:31.280> we
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  actually plan around it and then we
• 42:31
  actually plan around it and then we typically<00:42:32.000> see<00:42:32.480> some<00:42:32.800> friends<00:42:33.440> etc
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  typically see some friends etc
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  typically see some friends etc while<00:42:34.800> being<00:42:35.040> there.<00:42:36.240> So<00:42:37.280> I<00:42:37.520> would<00:42:37.680> say<00:42:37.920> no,<00:42:38.240> I
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  while being there. So I would say no, I
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  while being there. So I would say no, I I<00:42:38.880> don't<00:42:39.040> feel<00:42:39.280> that<00:42:39.520> I<00:42:39.760> don't<00:42:39.920> have<00:42:40.079> any
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  I don't feel that I don't have any
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  I don't feel that I don't have any roots.<00:42:40.800> Uh<00:42:41.040> I<00:42:41.280> know<00:42:41.440> my<00:42:41.680> roots<00:42:42.079> are<00:42:42.240> are
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  roots. Uh I know my roots are are
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  roots. Uh I know my roots are are Danish.<00:42:43.440> Uh<00:42:43.839> but<00:42:44.079> but<00:42:44.640> besides<00:42:45.119> that<00:42:45.680> whether
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  Danish. Uh but but besides that whether
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  Danish. Uh but but besides that whether I'm<00:42:47.599> born<00:42:48.160> south<00:42:48.400> of<00:42:49.040> I<00:42:49.280> live<00:42:49.520> most<00:42:49.760> of<00:42:49.920> my<00:42:50.079> life
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  I'm born south of I live most of my life
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  I'm born south of I live most of my life either<00:42:50.800> close<00:42:51.040> to<00:42:51.839> or<00:42:52.640> in<00:42:53.839> uh<00:42:54.000> and<00:42:54.240> now<00:42:54.480> I<00:42:55.119> have
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  either close to or in uh and now I have
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  either close to or in uh and now I have chosen<00:42:55.599> to<00:42:55.760> to<00:42:55.839> to<00:42:56.240> live<00:42:56.400> in<00:42:56.560> Malmir.<00:42:57.200> But<00:42:57.839> it
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  chosen to to to live in Malmir. But it
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  chosen to to to live in Malmir. But it doesn't<00:42:58.720> really<00:42:59.040> change<00:42:59.359> anything<00:42:59.680> for<00:42:59.920> me
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  doesn't really change anything for me
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  doesn't really change anything for me because<00:43:00.319> I<00:43:00.560> don't<00:43:00.720> think<00:43:00.880> my<00:43:01.119> life<00:43:01.359> is
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  because I don't think my life is
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  because I don't think my life is different<00:43:02.960> uh<00:43:03.760> on<00:43:04.079> a<00:43:04.880> daily<00:43:05.760> basis.<00:43:06.960> Uh
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  different uh on a daily basis. Uh
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  different uh on a daily basis. Uh I<00:43:08.400> I<00:43:08.560> took<00:43:08.800> you<00:43:08.960> on<00:43:09.119> a<00:43:09.280> little<00:43:09.359> bit<00:43:09.520> of<00:43:09.599> a
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  I I took you on a little bit of a
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  I I took you on a little bit of a tangent<00:43:10.640> uh<00:43:10.880> after<00:43:11.200> you<00:43:11.440> were<00:43:11.680> saying<00:43:12.000> that
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  tangent uh after you were saying that
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  tangent uh after you were saying that you<00:43:12.880> have<00:43:12.960> to<00:43:13.119> think<00:43:13.280> carefully<00:43:13.680> about<00:43:13.920> what
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  you have to think carefully about what
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  you have to think carefully about what you're<00:43:14.400> doing<00:43:14.720> when<00:43:15.040> you're<00:43:15.280> going<00:43:15.440> to<00:43:15.599> make<00:43:15.680> a
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  you're doing when you're going to make a
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  you're doing when you're going to make a move<00:43:16.079> like<00:43:16.319> that.<00:43:16.720> And<00:43:16.880> and<00:43:17.920> first<00:43:18.160> you<00:43:18.400> talked
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  move like that. And and first you talked
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  move like that. And and first you talked about<00:43:19.599> well<00:43:19.839> you<00:43:20.000> have<00:43:20.160> friends<00:43:20.319> and<00:43:20.560> family.
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  about well you have friends and family.
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  about well you have friends and family. Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. What<00:43:22.640> is<00:43:22.800> another<00:43:23.119> one<00:43:23.520> that<00:43:23.839> you<00:43:24.000> wanted<00:43:24.240> to
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  What is another one that you wanted to
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  What is another one that you wanted to bring<00:43:24.560> up?<00:43:24.800> Another<00:43:25.200> one<00:43:25.440> is<00:43:25.680> of<00:43:25.839> course<00:43:26.160> that
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  bring up? Another one is of course that
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  bring up? Another one is of course that I<00:43:26.960> probably<00:43:27.359> didn't<00:43:27.680> encounter<00:43:28.960> the<00:43:29.359> amount
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  I probably didn't encounter the amount
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  I probably didn't encounter the amount of<00:43:30.079> time<00:43:30.560> you<00:43:30.960> have<00:43:31.200> to<00:43:31.520> spend<00:43:32.000> when<00:43:32.319> you<00:43:33.680> have
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  of time you have to spend when you have
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  of time you have to spend when you have to<00:43:34.079> get<00:43:34.240> your<00:43:34.400> or<00:43:34.800> uh<00:43:34.880> your<00:43:35.200> things<00:43:35.440> in<00:43:35.599> order
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  to get your or uh your things in order
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  to get your or uh your things in order uh<00:43:36.319> moving<00:43:36.560> to<00:43:36.720> a<00:43:36.960> different<00:43:37.119> country<00:43:37.680> and<00:43:38.079> uh
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  uh moving to a different country and uh
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  uh moving to a different country and uh one<00:43:38.560> of<00:43:38.640> the<00:43:38.800> things<00:43:38.960> that<00:43:39.280> I<00:43:39.520> was<00:43:39.920> a<00:43:40.240> bit
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  one of the things that I was a bit
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  one of the things that I was a bit surprised<00:43:40.960> about<00:43:41.440> was<00:43:41.839> the<00:43:42.079> process<00:43:42.720> even
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  surprised about was the process even
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  surprised about was the process even though<00:43:44.000> both<00:43:44.480> Denmark,<00:43:45.119> Sweden<00:43:45.599> and<00:43:45.920> the
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  though both Denmark, Sweden and the
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  though both Denmark, Sweden and the Germany<00:43:46.640> is<00:43:46.880> a<00:43:47.040> part<00:43:47.200> of<00:43:47.280> the<00:43:47.440> European<00:43:47.920> Union
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  Germany is a part of the European Union
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  Germany is a part of the European Union then<00:43:49.280> uh<00:43:49.359> it<00:43:49.599> took<00:43:49.920> me<00:43:50.240> 9<00:43:50.560> months<00:43:51.760> finally<00:43:52.240> to
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  then uh it took me 9 months finally to
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  then uh it took me 9 months finally to get<00:43:52.720> my<00:43:53.520> social<00:43:53.920> security<00:43:54.480> in<00:43:54.720> place<00:43:55.200> here<00:43:55.440> in
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  get my social security in place here in
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  get my social security in place here in Germany<00:43:56.079> because<00:43:56.880> that<00:43:57.119> is<00:43:57.280> where<00:43:57.520> I<00:43:57.680> work.<00:43:58.160> So
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  Germany because that is where I work. So
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  Germany because that is where I work. So it<00:43:59.599> took<00:43:59.839> 9<00:44:00.079> months<00:44:00.880> because<00:44:01.680> Germany
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  it took 9 months because Germany
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  it took 9 months because Germany wouldn't<00:44:02.400> do<00:44:02.640> anything<00:44:03.040> before<00:44:03.520> Sweden<00:44:03.920> have
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  wouldn't do anything before Sweden have
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  wouldn't do anything before Sweden have told<00:44:04.400> me<00:44:04.560> no.<00:44:05.359> And<00:44:05.520> I<00:44:05.760> already<00:44:06.079> knew<00:44:06.240> that<00:44:06.480> they
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  told me no. And I already knew that they
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  told me no. And I already knew that they were<00:44:06.800> going<00:44:06.960> to<00:44:07.359> say<00:44:07.680> no<00:44:07.920> because<00:44:08.240> I<00:44:08.560> worked
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  were going to say no because I worked
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  were going to say no because I worked when<00:44:09.119> I<00:44:09.280> moved<00:44:09.599> I<00:44:09.920> actually
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  when I moved I actually
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  when I moved I actually moved<00:44:12.079> and<00:44:13.119> switched<00:44:13.599> work<00:44:14.160> at<00:44:14.480> the<00:44:14.640> same
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  moved and switched work at the same
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  moved and switched work at the same time.<00:44:15.599> Uh,<00:44:15.920> so<00:44:16.160> I<00:44:16.400> knew<00:44:16.640> that<00:44:16.960> I<00:44:17.200> was<00:44:17.359> going<00:44:17.599> to
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  time. Uh, so I knew that I was going to
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  time. Uh, so I knew that I was going to be<00:44:18.000> working<00:44:18.240> in<00:44:18.480> Germany<00:44:19.119> and<00:44:19.359> I<00:44:19.599> knew
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  be working in Germany and I knew
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  be working in Germany and I knew therefore<00:44:20.319> I<00:44:20.640> would<00:44:20.960> have<00:44:21.200> to<00:44:21.359> have<00:44:21.520> my<00:44:21.760> social
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  therefore I would have to have my social
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  therefore I would have to have my social security<00:44:23.119> uh<00:44:23.200> and<00:44:23.440> healthcare<00:44:23.920> insurance
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  security uh and healthcare insurance
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  security uh and healthcare insurance here<00:44:24.880> in<00:44:25.119> Germany.
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  here in Germany.
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  here in Germany. Um,<00:44:28.240> but<00:44:28.640> they<00:44:28.960> couldn't<00:44:29.200> do<00:44:29.359> anything<00:44:29.680> in
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  Um, but they couldn't do anything in
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  Um, but they couldn't do anything in Germany<00:44:30.400> before<00:44:31.119> Sweden,<00:44:31.839> where<00:44:32.079> I<00:44:32.319> had<00:44:32.560> my
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  Germany before Sweden, where I had my
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  Germany before Sweden, where I had my official<00:44:33.280> address,<00:44:33.920> had<00:44:34.160> said<00:44:34.480> no.<00:44:35.040> And<00:44:35.359> then
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  official address, had said no. And then
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  official address, had said no. And then they<00:44:35.920> took<00:44:36.400> uh<00:44:36.560> they<00:44:36.800> took<00:44:37.440> uh<00:44:38.240> approximately
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  they took uh they took uh approximately
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  they took uh they took uh approximately three<00:44:39.040> and<00:44:39.119> a<00:44:39.280> half<00:44:39.440> months<00:44:39.760> because<00:44:40.240> you
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  three and a half months because you
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  three and a half months because you couldn't<00:44:40.880> apply<00:44:41.680> in<00:44:42.000> Sweden<00:44:42.400> before<00:44:42.800> I<00:44:43.040> had<00:44:43.200> my
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  couldn't apply in Sweden before I had my
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  couldn't apply in Sweden before I had my identity<00:44:44.640> card.<00:44:45.280> Uh<00:44:45.599> and<00:44:45.920> it<00:44:46.160> took<00:44:46.400> some<00:44:46.560> time
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  identity card. Uh and it took some time
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  identity card. Uh and it took some time to<00:44:46.880> get<00:44:46.960> the<00:44:47.280> identity<00:44:47.680> card<00:44:47.920> and<00:44:48.240> then<00:44:48.400> you
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  to get the identity card and then you
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  to get the identity card and then you could<00:44:48.880> apply
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  could apply
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  could apply and<00:44:50.400> and<00:44:50.800> then<00:44:51.680> they<00:44:52.000> said<00:44:52.240> no<00:44:52.560> I<00:44:52.800> think<00:44:53.119> uh
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  and and then they said no I think uh
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  and and then they said no I think uh roughly<00:44:54.000> in<00:44:54.240> in<00:44:54.640> Decemberish<00:44:55.680> and<00:44:55.920> then<00:44:56.160> the
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  roughly in in Decemberish and then the
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  roughly in in Decemberish and then the German<00:44:56.720> side<00:44:57.280> took<00:44:57.680> roughly<00:44:58.480> five<00:44:58.720> months<00:44:59.440> uh
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  German side took roughly five months uh
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  German side took roughly five months uh to<00:45:00.079> get<00:45:00.319> my<00:45:00.560> clearance<00:45:00.880> here.<00:45:01.040> So<00:45:01.200> it
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  to get my clearance here. So it
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  to get my clearance here. So it basically<00:45:01.760> took<00:45:02.160> uh<00:45:02.319> 9<00:45:02.560> months<00:45:03.359> to<00:45:03.599> to<00:45:04.000> be<00:45:04.720> to
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  basically took uh 9 months to to be to
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  basically took uh 9 months to to be to get<00:45:05.200> my<00:45:05.839> my<00:45:06.319> social<00:45:06.640> security<00:45:07.119> card<00:45:07.440> or<00:45:07.599> or<00:45:08.000> my
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  get my my social security card or or my
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  get my my social security card or or my my<00:45:08.240> my<00:45:09.040> uh<00:45:09.200> healthcare<00:45:09.760> card<00:45:10.480> even<00:45:10.720> though
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  my my uh healthcare card even though
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  my my uh healthcare card even though where<00:45:12.240> you<00:45:12.560> live<00:45:13.200> you<00:45:13.440> always<00:45:14.079> are<00:45:14.400> entitled
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  where you live you always are entitled
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  where you live you always are entitled to<00:45:15.920> healthcare.<00:45:16.800> Uh<00:45:17.119> so<00:45:17.359> I<00:45:17.599> am<00:45:17.839> entitled<00:45:18.319> in
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  to healthcare. Uh so I am entitled in
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  to healthcare. Uh so I am entitled in Sweden<00:45:19.040> but<00:45:19.280> the<00:45:19.599> question<00:45:19.920> is<00:45:20.400> what<00:45:20.720> happens
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  Sweden but the question is what happens
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  Sweden but the question is what happens when<00:45:21.359> something<00:45:21.920> happens<00:45:22.240> to<00:45:22.480> me<00:45:22.720> abroad<00:45:23.280> and
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  when something happens to me abroad and
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  when something happens to me abroad and there<00:45:23.760> I<00:45:24.000> need<00:45:24.160> my<00:45:24.319> my<00:45:24.400> my<00:45:24.880> healthcare<00:45:25.440> card.
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  there I need my my my healthcare card.
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  there I need my my my healthcare card. how<00:45:28.640> I<00:45:28.720> envision
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  how I envision
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  how I envision a<00:45:31.520> as<00:45:31.760> as<00:45:32.079> it<00:45:32.880> said<00:45:33.119> down<00:45:33.359> here.<00:45:33.760> I<00:45:33.920> had<00:45:34.079> good
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  a as as it said down here. I had good
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  a as as it said down here. I had good people<00:45:34.560> around<00:45:34.880> me<00:45:35.200> helping<00:45:35.520> me<00:45:35.680> with<00:45:36.240> uh
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  people around me helping me with uh
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  people around me helping me with uh sorting<00:45:36.960> things<00:45:37.200> out,<00:45:37.760> figuring<00:45:38.079> out<00:45:38.319> how<00:45:38.480> to
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  sorting things out, figuring out how to
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  sorting things out, figuring out how to to<00:45:38.960> do<00:45:39.119> it.<00:45:39.599> The<00:45:39.920> tax<00:45:40.240> wise<00:45:40.560> of<00:45:40.720> it<00:45:40.960> is<00:45:41.200> actually
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  to do it. The tax wise of it is actually
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  to do it. The tax wise of it is actually not<00:45:41.760> that<00:45:42.000> complicated.<00:45:42.640> It's<00:45:42.800> more<00:45:42.960> the
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  not that complicated. It's more the
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  not that complicated. It's more the other<00:45:43.440> things<00:45:43.680> that<00:45:43.839> that<00:45:44.240> takes<00:45:44.480> your<00:45:44.800> time.
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  other things that that takes your time.
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  other things that that takes your time. So,<00:45:45.839> is<00:45:46.079> there<00:45:46.319> something<00:45:46.720> you'd<00:45:47.040> like<00:45:47.200> to
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  So, is there something you'd like to
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  So, is there something you'd like to leave<00:45:47.520> us<00:45:47.760> with<00:45:48.079> today,<00:45:48.640> Peter?<00:45:49.680> I<00:45:50.000> think<00:45:50.079> I
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  leave us with today, Peter? I think I
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  leave us with today, Peter? I think I I'll<00:45:50.640> I'll<00:45:51.040> leave<00:45:51.280> you<00:45:51.680> with<00:45:52.319> the<00:45:52.640> fact<00:45:52.800> that
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  I'll I'll leave you with the fact that
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  I'll I'll leave you with the fact that if<00:45:54.560> anybody<00:45:55.520> listening<00:45:56.240> uh<00:45:56.400> to<00:45:56.640> this<00:45:57.040> uh
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  if anybody listening uh to this uh
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  if anybody listening uh to this uh session<00:45:58.240> have<00:45:58.640> the<00:45:59.040> interest<00:45:59.440> of<00:45:59.839> doing<00:46:00.079> it
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  session have the interest of doing it
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  session have the interest of doing it then<00:46:00.640> just<00:46:00.880> do<00:46:01.040> it.<00:46:01.839> The<00:46:02.079> worst<00:46:02.400> thing<00:46:02.560> that
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  then just do it. The worst thing that
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  then just do it. The worst thing that could<00:46:02.960> happen<00:46:03.280> is<00:46:03.599> that<00:46:03.839> that<00:46:03.920> that<00:46:04.560> you<00:46:04.720> can
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  could happen is that that that you can
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  could happen is that that that you can just<00:46:05.119> go<00:46:05.359> back<00:46:05.520> to<00:46:05.760> what<00:46:06.000> you<00:46:06.240> came<00:46:06.400> from.
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  just go back to what you came from.
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  just go back to what you came from. So<00:46:08.560> to<00:46:08.800> me<00:46:09.040> it<00:46:09.359> is<00:46:09.680> more<00:46:09.920> important<00:46:10.720> that<00:46:11.520> we<00:46:11.920> as
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  So to me it is more important that we as
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  So to me it is more important that we as individuals<00:46:12.880> are<00:46:13.200> actually<00:46:13.599> happy<00:46:13.920> about
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  individuals are actually happy about
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  individuals are actually happy about what<00:46:14.400> we're<00:46:14.640> doing<00:46:15.440> and<00:46:15.760> motivated<00:46:16.319> about<00:46:16.640> we
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  what we're doing and motivated about we
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  what we're doing and motivated about we are<00:46:16.880> doing<00:46:17.200> and<00:46:17.680> motivation<00:46:18.319> is<00:46:18.560> not
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  are doing and motivation is not
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  are doing and motivation is not something<00:46:19.119> that<00:46:19.440> other<00:46:19.839> can<00:46:20.079> inflict<00:46:20.560> on<00:46:20.800> us.
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  something that other can inflict on us.
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  something that other can inflict on us. It<00:46:21.680> is<00:46:21.839> something<00:46:22.079> that<00:46:22.319> we<00:46:22.560> have<00:46:22.800> to<00:46:23.359> figure
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  It is something that we have to figure
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  It is something that we have to figure out<00:46:23.920> ourselves<00:46:24.800> what<00:46:25.119> actually<00:46:25.440> motivates<00:46:26.000> us
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  out ourselves what actually motivates us
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  out ourselves what actually motivates us and<00:46:26.400> then<00:46:26.640> hopefully<00:46:27.440> find<00:46:27.680> a<00:46:27.920> job<00:46:28.240> where<00:46:28.560> we
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  and then hopefully find a job where we
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  and then hopefully find a job where we feel<00:46:29.599> we<00:46:29.920> motivated.<00:46:30.960> Working<00:46:31.359> hard<00:46:31.599> for
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  feel we motivated. Working hard for
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  feel we motivated. Working hard for something<00:46:32.160> you<00:46:32.480> don't<00:46:32.640> care<00:46:32.880> about<00:46:33.119> is<00:46:33.440> called
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  something you don't care about is called
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  something you don't care about is called stress.<00:46:34.720> Working<00:46:35.040> hard<00:46:35.280> for<00:46:35.599> something<00:46:35.839> you
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  stress. Working hard for something you
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  stress. Working hard for something you care<00:46:36.480> about<00:46:36.880> is<00:46:37.200> just<00:46:37.440> called<00:46:37.680> passion.<00:46:38.319> So<00:46:38.640> I
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  care about is just called passion. So I
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  care about is just called passion. So I think<00:46:38.960> that's<00:46:39.680> probably<00:46:40.079> my<00:46:40.319> take<00:46:40.560> on<00:46:40.720> it.
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  think that's probably my take on it.
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  think that's probably my take on it. Interesting.<00:46:42.160> In<00:46:42.400> Danish,
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  Interesting. In Danish,
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  Interesting. In Danish, you<00:46:44.720> would<00:46:44.880> say,<00:46:45.520> "I've<00:46:45.920> never<00:46:46.400> tried<00:46:46.720> that
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  you would say, "I've never tried that
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  you would say, "I've never tried that before."<00:46:48.319> In<00:46:48.640> English,<00:46:49.280> we'd<00:46:49.680> say,<00:46:49.920> "I've
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  before." In English, we'd say, "I've
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  before." In English, we'd say, "I've never<00:46:50.560> done<00:46:50.720> that<00:46:50.960> before."
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  never done that before."
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  never done that before." Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. And<00:46:52.880> and<00:46:53.119> maybe<00:46:53.599> there<00:46:53.839> is<00:46:54.079> something<00:46:54.400> to<00:46:54.640> that
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  And and maybe there is something to that
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  And and maybe there is something to that mindset<00:46:55.599> of,<00:46:56.560> "I'm<00:46:56.960> just<00:46:57.200> going<00:46:57.280> to<00:46:57.440> try<00:46:57.680> this
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  mindset of, "I'm just going to try this
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  mindset of, "I'm just going to try this out.<00:46:58.240> If<00:46:58.400> it<00:46:58.640> doesn't<00:46:58.880> work<00:46:59.040> out,<00:46:59.920> I'll<00:47:00.240> just
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  out. If it doesn't work out, I'll just
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  out. If it doesn't work out, I'll just come<00:47:00.560> back."<00:47:01.839> whereas<00:47:02.880> I'm<00:47:03.119> gonna<00:47:03.359> move.
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  come back." whereas I'm gonna move.
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  come back." whereas I'm gonna move. Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. And<00:47:05.200> that<00:47:05.760> puts<00:47:06.079> it<00:47:06.400> more<00:47:06.720> concretely<00:47:07.440> and
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  And that puts it more concretely and
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  And that puts it more concretely and much<00:47:08.079> more<00:47:08.319> difficult<00:47:09.040> to<00:47:09.359> come<00:47:09.599> back<00:47:10.400> almost
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  much more difficult to come back almost
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  much more difficult to come back almost as<00:47:11.359> a<00:47:11.520> failure<00:47:12.240> if<00:47:12.480> it<00:47:12.720> doesn't<00:47:12.880> work<00:47:13.119> out
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  as a failure if it doesn't work out
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  as a failure if it doesn't work out instead<00:47:13.760> of<00:47:14.000> saying<00:47:14.880> just<00:47:15.200> try<00:47:15.359> it.
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  instead of saying just try it.
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  instead of saying just try it. I<00:47:16.160> I<00:47:16.560> fully<00:47:16.880> agree<00:47:17.119> with<00:47:17.280> that.<00:47:17.920> But<00:47:18.079> it's<00:47:18.319> also
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  I I fully agree with that. But it's also
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  I I fully agree with that. But it's also it<00:47:19.520> doesn't<00:47:19.920> matter<00:47:20.800> if<00:47:21.599> you<00:47:21.920> fail<00:47:22.400> and<00:47:22.640> you
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  it doesn't matter if you fail and you
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  it doesn't matter if you fail and you learn<00:47:23.119> from<00:47:23.280> it.
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  learn from it.
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  learn from it. And<00:47:26.160> by<00:47:26.480> that<00:47:26.720> I<00:47:27.040> mean<00:47:27.200> that<00:47:27.440> that<00:47:27.920> if<00:47:28.480> you<00:47:28.720> take
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  And by that I mean that that if you take
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  And by that I mean that that if you take a<00:47:29.119> decision<00:47:29.520> and<00:47:29.760> it's<00:47:30.079> not<00:47:30.400> right<00:47:31.760> and<00:47:32.000> you
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  a decision and it's not right and you
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  a decision and it's not right and you figure<00:47:32.480> out<00:47:32.960> then<00:47:33.200> make<00:47:33.359> a<00:47:33.520> new<00:47:33.760> plan.
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  figure out then make a new plan.
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  figure out then make a new plan. Sure.<00:47:36.400> But<00:47:36.560> that's<00:47:36.800> the<00:47:36.960> mindset<00:47:37.359> that<00:47:37.599> you
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  Sure. But that's the mindset that you
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  Sure. But that's the mindset that you have<00:47:38.079> from<00:47:38.720> doing<00:47:38.960> that<00:47:39.200> a<00:47:39.440> few<00:47:39.599> times.
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  have from doing that a few times.
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  have from doing that a few times. Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Yes. For<00:47:40.880> some<00:47:41.119> people<00:47:41.280> who<00:47:41.520> have<00:47:41.680> not<00:47:41.920> taken<00:47:42.160> those
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  For some people who have not taken those
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  For some people who have not taken those chances.
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  chances.
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  chances. They<00:47:44.960> you<00:47:45.119> know<00:47:45.520> there's<00:47:45.839> a<00:47:46.079> lot<00:47:46.400> of
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  They you know there's a lot of
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  They you know there's a lot of nervousness<00:47:48.240> about<00:47:48.640> making<00:47:49.200> a<00:47:50.000> a<00:47:50.240> big<00:47:50.480> mo<00:47:50.800> a
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  nervousness about making a a big mo a
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  nervousness about making a a big mo a big<00:47:51.359> bold<00:47:51.760> move<00:47:52.240> like<00:47:52.560> that.<00:47:53.040> Yeah.
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  big bold move like that. Yeah.
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  big bold move like that. Yeah. And<00:47:54.160> so,<00:47:54.880> you<00:47:55.040> know,<00:47:55.200> the<00:47:55.440> idea<00:47:55.839> of<00:47:56.720> taming
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  And so, you know, the idea of taming
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  And so, you know, the idea of taming that<00:47:57.680> a<00:47:58.000> little<00:47:58.079> bit<00:47:58.319> by<00:47:58.640> saying,<00:47:58.800> "Hey,<00:47:59.680> just
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  that a little bit by saying, "Hey, just
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  that a little bit by saying, "Hey, just try<00:48:00.079> it<00:48:00.240> out.<00:48:00.880> If<00:48:01.040> it<00:48:01.200> doesn't<00:48:01.440> work<00:48:01.599> out,<00:48:01.920> you
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  try it out. If it doesn't work out, you
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  try it out. If it doesn't work out, you can<00:48:02.240> always<00:48:02.480> come<00:48:02.720> back.<00:48:03.520> Not<00:48:03.680> a<00:48:03.839> big<00:48:04.000> deal.
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  can always come back. Not a big deal.
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  can always come back. Not a big deal. And<00:48:04.480> you'll<00:48:04.800> learn<00:48:05.040> something<00:48:05.280> in<00:48:05.520> the
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  And you'll learn something in the
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  And you'll learn something in the process."
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  process."
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  process." Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah. Whereas,<00:48:07.599> if<00:48:07.839> you<00:48:08.000> don't<00:48:08.160> try<00:48:08.400> it<00:48:08.560> out,<00:48:08.960> you'll
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  Whereas, if you don't try it out, you'll
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  Whereas, if you don't try it out, you'll never<00:48:09.520> know.<00:48:09.920> You<00:48:10.079> won't<00:48:10.319> have<00:48:10.480> learned
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  never know. You won't have learned
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  never know. You won't have learned anything.
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  anything.
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  anything. No.
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  No.
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  No. Um,<00:48:13.200> okay.<00:48:13.680> So,<00:48:13.920> you<00:48:14.240> won't<00:48:14.800> develop<00:48:15.119> a<00:48:15.280> scab,
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  Um, okay. So, you won't develop a scab,
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  Um, okay. So, you won't develop a scab, which<00:48:16.560> will<00:48:16.880> heal,
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  which will heal,
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  which will heal, right?<00:48:18.880> In<00:48:19.119> case<00:48:19.280> something<00:48:19.520> doesn't<00:48:19.839> work
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  right? In case something doesn't work
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  right? In case something doesn't work out.<00:48:21.040> It<00:48:21.200> doesn't<00:48:21.440> kill<00:48:21.680> you.
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  out. It doesn't kill you.
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  out. It doesn't kill you. Yeah,<00:48:23.119> exactly.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, exactly. My<00:48:24.240> experience<00:48:24.640> is
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  My experience is
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  My experience is that<00:48:27.520> I<00:48:27.839> like<00:48:28.079> the<00:48:28.480> different<00:48:28.800> cultures
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  that I like the different cultures
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  that I like the different cultures because<00:48:29.680> we<00:48:30.000> are<00:48:30.240> different<00:48:30.640> even<00:48:30.880> though<00:48:31.040> we
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  because we are different even though we
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  because we are different even though we we<00:48:31.359> we<00:48:31.920> in<00:48:32.079> many<00:48:32.319> ways<00:48:32.640> also<00:48:33.040> have
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  we we in many ways also have
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  we we in many ways also have similarities<00:48:34.480> then<00:48:34.800> we<00:48:35.040> are<00:48:35.200> different
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  similarities then we are different
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  similarities then we are different different<00:48:36.160> cultures.<00:48:37.200> um<00:48:37.839> and<00:48:38.000> and<00:48:38.079> and<00:48:38.640> that
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  different cultures. um and and and that
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  different cultures. um and and and that I<00:48:39.119> think<00:48:39.280> is<00:48:39.440> an<00:48:39.760> interesting<00:48:40.160> field<00:48:40.480> when<00:48:40.720> you
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  I think is an interesting field when you
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  I think is an interesting field when you are<00:48:41.040> talking<00:48:41.359> management<00:48:41.920> and<00:48:42.480> uh<00:48:42.720> operation
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  are talking management and uh operation
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  are talking management and uh operation uh<00:48:44.160> and<00:48:44.400> execution<00:48:45.599> uh<00:48:46.079> that<00:48:46.319> that<00:48:46.880> working
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  uh and execution uh that that working
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  uh and execution uh that that working with<00:48:47.520> different<00:48:47.920> cultures,<00:48:48.880> different<00:48:49.200> ways
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  with different cultures, different ways
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  with different cultures, different ways of<00:48:49.839> approaching<00:48:50.720> things<00:48:51.599> uh<00:48:51.760> I<00:48:52.000> think<00:48:52.160> is<00:48:52.400> is
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  of approaching things uh I think is is
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  of approaching things uh I think is is an<00:48:53.119> extremely<00:48:53.760> interesting<00:48:54.240> thing<00:48:54.480> to<00:48:54.720> work
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  an extremely interesting thing to work
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  an extremely interesting thing to work with<00:48:56.000> uh<00:48:56.720> cross<00:48:57.119> border.<00:48:58.079> So,<00:48:58.400> so<00:48:58.640> and<00:48:58.800> and<00:48:59.119> you
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  with uh cross border. So, so and and you
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  with uh cross border. So, so and and you can<00:48:59.359> say<00:48:59.599> if<00:48:59.839> if<00:49:00.079> we<00:49:00.240> look<00:49:00.319> at<00:49:00.480> our<00:49:00.720> little
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  can say if if we look at our little
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  can say if if we look at our little company<00:49:01.200> here<00:49:01.440> in<00:49:01.599> Germany,<00:49:02.480> uh<00:49:02.640> then<00:49:02.960> we<00:49:03.280> also
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  company here in Germany, uh then we also
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  company here in Germany, uh then we also uh<00:49:04.319> have<00:49:04.880> different<00:49:05.680> uh<00:49:06.000> people<00:49:06.319> here.<00:49:07.040> Uh<00:49:07.440> we
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  uh have different uh people here. Uh we
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  uh have different uh people here. Uh we have<00:49:08.480> a<00:49:08.880> girl<00:49:09.200> from<00:49:09.440> from<00:49:09.520> from<00:49:10.240> Belaroo.<00:49:11.280> Uh
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  have a girl from from from Belaroo. Uh
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  have a girl from from from Belaroo. Uh we<00:49:12.000> have<00:49:12.400> a<00:49:12.800> girl<00:49:13.119> from<00:49:13.680> Poland.<00:49:14.400> We<00:49:14.640> have<00:49:14.880> a<00:49:15.359> uh
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  we have a girl from Poland. We have a uh
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  we have a girl from Poland. We have a uh a<00:49:16.319> guy<00:49:16.640> from<00:49:16.800> from<00:49:17.119> Pakistan<00:49:17.839> actually.<00:49:18.559> And
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  a guy from from Pakistan actually. And
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  a guy from from Pakistan actually. And we<00:49:18.960> have<00:49:19.119> a<00:49:19.680> um<00:49:20.720> another<00:49:21.119> guy<00:49:21.440> from<00:49:21.839> South
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  we have a um another guy from South
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  we have a um another guy from South Africa.<00:49:22.880> So<00:49:23.520> we<00:49:23.760> are<00:49:23.920> different
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  Africa. So we are different
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  Africa. So we are different nationalities<00:49:25.119> with<00:49:25.440> different<00:49:25.760> backgrounds
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  nationalities with different backgrounds
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  nationalities with different backgrounds and<00:49:27.280> yet<00:49:27.599> we<00:49:27.760> make<00:49:27.920> it<00:49:28.400> still<00:49:28.640> work.<00:49:29.599> Uh<00:49:30.160> I
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  and yet we make it still work. Uh I
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  and yet we make it still work. Uh I think<00:49:30.480> if<00:49:30.720> you<00:49:30.880> you<00:49:31.280> look<00:49:31.440> here<00:49:31.760> we<00:49:32.000> are
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  think if you you look here we are
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  think if you you look here we are probably
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  probably
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  probably I<00:49:34.000> would<00:49:34.160> say<00:49:34.319> we<00:49:34.559> are<00:49:34.720> probably<00:49:35.040> in<00:49:35.280> this
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  I would say we are probably in this
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  I would say we are probably in this little<00:49:35.839> office<00:49:36.640> we<00:49:36.880> are<00:49:37.040> probably<00:49:37.760> seven
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  little office we are probably seven
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  little office we are probably seven different<00:49:39.119> nationalities
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  different nationalities
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  different nationalities and<00:49:41.200> I<00:49:41.440> think<00:49:41.520> we<00:49:41.839> speak<00:49:42.319> uh<00:49:42.559> eight<00:49:42.880> nine
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  and I think we speak uh eight nine
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  and I think we speak uh eight nine different<00:49:43.839> languages.<00:49:45.040> So<00:49:45.680> you<00:49:46.000> learn
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  different languages. So you learn
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  different languages. So you learn something<00:49:46.640> from<00:49:46.960> the<00:49:47.280> process.
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  something from the process.
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  something from the process. Yeah.<00:49:48.640> I'm<00:49:48.880> I'm<00:49:49.200> actually<00:49:49.440> imagining<00:49:49.920> that<00:49:50.480> if
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  Yeah. I'm I'm actually imagining that if
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  Yeah. I'm I'm actually imagining that if you<00:49:50.960> have<00:49:51.200> so<00:49:51.520> many<00:49:51.680> different
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  you have so many different
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  you have so many different nationalities,<00:49:53.040> you<00:49:53.119> know,<00:49:53.280> a<00:49:53.440> large<00:49:53.920> percent
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  nationalities, you know, a large percent
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  nationalities, you know, a large percent of<00:49:54.559> people<00:49:55.440> are<00:49:55.760> from<00:49:56.319> different<00:49:57.200> parts<00:49:57.520> of
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  of people are from different parts of
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  of people are from different parts of the<00:49:57.839> world<00:49:58.640> that<00:49:58.880> it<00:49:59.119> almost<00:49:59.520> makes<00:49:59.760> it<00:50:00.079> easier
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  the world that it almost makes it easier
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  the world that it almost makes it easier to<00:50:01.040> adjust<00:50:01.520> because<00:50:02.880> there<00:50:03.200> is<00:50:03.520> no<00:50:04.880> one<00:50:05.280> way<00:50:05.520> of
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  to adjust because there is no one way of
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  to adjust because there is no one way of doing<00:50:06.000> things.<00:50:07.119> And<00:50:07.359> and<00:50:07.440> and<00:50:08.000> once<00:50:08.240> we
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  doing things. And and and once we
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  doing things. And and and once we realize<00:50:08.880> that,<00:50:09.280> then<00:50:09.520> we're<00:50:09.760> open<00:50:10.400> to<00:50:10.960> many
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  realize that, then we're open to many
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  realize that, then we're open to many different<00:50:11.520> ways<00:50:12.319> of<00:50:12.640> doing<00:50:12.960> things<00:50:13.200> and<00:50:13.440> and
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  different ways of doing things and and
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  different ways of doing things and and many<00:50:14.160> different<00:50:14.400> ways<00:50:14.640> of<00:50:14.800> thinking.
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  many different ways of thinking.
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  many different ways of thinking. And<00:50:16.720> you're<00:50:17.040> absolutely<00:50:17.520> right.<00:50:18.400> uh<00:50:19.040> because
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  And you're absolutely right. uh because
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  And you're absolutely right. uh because you<00:50:19.760> can<00:50:19.839> also<00:50:20.160> say<00:50:20.559> we<00:50:20.880> are<00:50:21.119> a<00:50:21.359> company<00:50:22.000> that
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  you can also say we are a company that
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  you can also say we are a company that yes<00:50:23.040> are<00:50:23.280> based<00:50:23.680> here<00:50:23.839> in<00:50:24.160> Germany<00:50:25.119> but<00:50:25.520> our
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  yes are based here in Germany but our
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  yes are based here in Germany but our primary<00:50:26.640> market<00:50:26.960> is<00:50:27.200> the<00:50:27.440> fully<00:50:27.839> European
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  primary market is the fully European
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  primary market is the fully European market.<00:50:29.359> Um,
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  market. Um,
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  market. Um, so<00:50:32.000> we<00:50:32.319> deal<00:50:32.559> with<00:50:32.800> a<00:50:33.040> lot<00:50:33.200> of<00:50:33.839> nationalities
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  so we deal with a lot of nationalities
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  so we deal with a lot of nationalities and<00:50:34.960> a<00:50:35.119> lot<00:50:35.200> of<00:50:35.359> different<00:50:35.599> cultures<00:50:36.640> in<00:50:36.880> a
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  and a lot of different cultures in a
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  and a lot of different cultures in a business<00:50:37.599> perspective,<00:50:38.400> not<00:50:38.960> as<00:50:39.200> an<00:50:39.440> employee
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  business perspective, not as an employee
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  business perspective, not as an employee perspective,<00:50:40.480> but<00:50:40.720> as<00:50:40.880> a<00:50:41.119> business
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  perspective, but as a business
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  perspective, but as a business perspective.
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  perspective.
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  perspective. And<00:50:43.599> if<00:50:43.920> you<00:50:44.160> come<00:50:44.400> with<00:50:44.559> a<00:50:44.800> mindset<00:50:45.599> that
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  And if you come with a mindset that
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  And if you come with a mindset that Spain<00:50:47.760> is<00:50:48.079> exactly<00:50:48.480> the<00:50:48.800> same<00:50:48.960> as<00:50:49.200> Germany,
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  Spain is exactly the same as Germany,
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  Spain is exactly the same as Germany, then<00:50:50.480> you<00:50:50.800> all<00:50:51.200> already<00:50:52.480> uh<00:50:53.440> failed.
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  then you all already uh failed.
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  then you all already uh failed. Oh,<00:50:55.200> yeah.<00:50:55.920> Uh<00:50:56.640> and<00:50:56.800> and<00:50:57.280> if<00:50:57.520> you<00:50:57.680> go<00:50:57.920> go<00:50:58.240> to<00:50:58.400> to
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  Oh, yeah. Uh and and if you go go to to
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  Oh, yeah. Uh and and if you go go to to to<00:50:59.040> if<00:50:59.280> I<00:50:59.839> went<00:51:00.160> to<00:51:00.400> Germany<00:51:01.440> and<00:51:01.599> and<00:51:01.680> and<00:51:01.920> and
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  to if I went to Germany and and and and
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  to if I went to Germany and and and and said<00:51:03.520> had<00:51:03.839> the<00:51:04.079> same<00:51:04.400> approach<00:51:05.599> as<00:51:05.920> we<00:51:06.079> have<00:51:06.240> in
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  said had the same approach as we have in
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  said had the same approach as we have in Denmark,<00:51:07.520> then<00:51:08.000> I<00:51:08.160> would<00:51:08.319> also<00:51:08.640> have<00:51:08.800> failed
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  Denmark, then I would also have failed
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  Denmark, then I would also have failed because<00:51:10.160> you<00:51:10.400> have<00:51:10.559> to<00:51:10.720> acknowledge<00:51:11.200> that
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  because you have to acknowledge that
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  because you have to acknowledge that that<00:51:11.760> there<00:51:12.079> was<00:51:12.319> a<00:51:12.480> different<00:51:12.720> culture<00:51:13.040> and
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  that there was a different culture and
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  that there was a different culture and there<00:51:13.520> still<00:51:13.760> is<00:51:14.000> a<00:51:14.160> different<00:51:14.319> culture<00:51:14.720> here
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  there still is a different culture here
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  there still is a different culture here than<00:51:15.599> some<00:51:15.839> of<00:51:15.920> the<00:51:16.000> Danish<00:51:16.480> companies<00:51:16.800> I<00:51:16.960> work
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  than some of the Danish companies I work
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  than some of the Danish companies I work for.<00:51:17.680> Of<00:51:17.920> course,<00:51:18.079> there<00:51:18.240> are<00:51:18.400> things<00:51:18.559> where
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  for. Of course, there are things where
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  for. Of course, there are things where we<00:51:19.040> can<00:51:19.200> learn<00:51:19.440> from<00:51:19.680> each<00:51:19.920> other<00:51:20.800> uh<00:51:21.280> relating
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  we can learn from each other uh relating
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  we can learn from each other uh relating to<00:51:21.920> to<00:51:22.319> structure,<00:51:22.880> relating<00:51:23.359> to<00:51:23.520> to<00:51:24.559> more
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  to to structure, relating to to more
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  to to structure, relating to to more flat<00:51:26.400> hierocrisy<00:51:27.119> here<00:51:27.280> in<00:51:27.680> in<00:51:28.000> Germany.<00:51:29.359> That
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  flat hierocrisy here in in Germany. That
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  flat hierocrisy here in in Germany. That is<00:51:29.680> what<00:51:29.839> I'm<00:51:30.079> trying<00:51:30.240> to<00:51:30.319> to<00:51:30.400> to<00:51:30.880> emphasize
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  is what I'm trying to to to emphasize
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  is what I'm trying to to to emphasize and<00:51:31.920> that<00:51:32.079> is<00:51:32.160> what<00:51:32.319> I<00:51:32.559> come<00:51:32.720> from<00:51:32.960> from<00:51:33.200> my
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  and that is what I come from from my
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  and that is what I come from from my Scandinavian<00:51:34.240> background<00:51:35.200> where<00:51:35.440> you<00:51:35.680> can
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  Scandinavian background where you can
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  Scandinavian background where you can say<00:51:36.240> typically<00:51:36.640> in<00:51:36.880> Germany<00:51:37.440> is<00:51:38.000> there's<00:51:38.319> a
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  say typically in Germany is there's a
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  say typically in Germany is there's a lot<00:51:38.559> more<00:51:38.800> haucracy<00:51:40.000> uh<00:51:40.160> in<00:51:40.400> the
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  lot more haucracy uh in the
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  lot more haucracy uh in the organizations.
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  organizations.
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  organizations. I<00:51:42.720> want<00:51:42.800> to<00:51:42.960> add<00:51:43.119> one<00:51:43.359> caveat<00:51:43.839> to<00:51:44.000> that<00:51:44.240> and
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  I want to add one caveat to that and
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  I want to add one caveat to that and that<00:51:44.640> is<00:51:44.960> that<00:51:45.280> we<00:51:45.599> can<00:51:45.839> generalize<00:51:46.559> about
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  that is that we can generalize about
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  that is that we can generalize about different<00:51:47.359> cultures<00:51:47.760> and<00:51:47.920> different<00:51:48.160> nations
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  different cultures and different nations
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  different cultures and different nations but<00:51:50.400> we<00:51:50.800> should<00:51:51.280> be<00:51:51.520> very<00:51:51.920> careful<00:51:52.559> about
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  but we should be very careful about
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  but we should be very careful about applying<00:51:53.440> that<00:51:53.680> to<00:51:53.920> individuals<00:51:55.040> because<00:51:55.440> as
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  applying that to individuals because as
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  applying that to individuals because as you<00:51:56.000> know<00:51:56.160> and<00:51:56.480> I<00:51:56.640> know<00:51:57.599> uh<00:51:57.760> we<00:51:58.000> can't<00:51:58.319> think<00:51:58.480> of
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  you know and I know uh we can't think of
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  you know and I know uh we can't think of the<00:51:58.960> individuals<00:51:59.680> as<00:52:00.640> one<00:52:01.040> of<00:52:01.280> the<00:52:01.520> generality
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  the individuals as one of the generality
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  the individuals as one of the generality that<00:52:02.960> will<00:52:03.119> get<00:52:03.280> us<00:52:03.440> in<00:52:03.599> a<00:52:03.760> lot<00:52:03.839> of<00:52:03.920> hot<00:52:04.160> water
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  that will get us in a lot of hot water
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  that will get us in a lot of hot water because<00:52:04.800> there<00:52:05.040> are<00:52:05.200> plenty<00:52:05.520> of<00:52:06.160> Spaniards
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  because there are plenty of Spaniards
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  because there are plenty of Spaniards who<00:52:07.040> will<00:52:07.280> act<00:52:08.240> um<00:52:08.640> uh<00:52:08.880> like<00:52:09.200> so-called
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  who will act um uh like so-called
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  who will act um uh like so-called Germans<00:52:10.720> I'm<00:52:10.880> I'm<00:52:11.200> doing<00:52:11.359> air<00:52:11.680> quotes<00:52:12.800> uh<00:52:12.960> and
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  Germans I'm I'm doing air quotes uh and
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  Germans I'm I'm doing air quotes uh and and<00:52:13.599> the<00:52:13.839> opposite,
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  and the opposite,
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  and the opposite, right?<00:52:15.440> So,<00:52:15.680> we<00:52:15.920> we<00:52:16.160> have<00:52:16.240> to<00:52:16.400> be<00:52:16.559> very<00:52:16.800> careful
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  right? So, we we have to be very careful
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  right? So, we we have to be very careful about<00:52:17.440> that<00:52:18.319> lest<00:52:18.640> we<00:52:19.119> insult<00:52:19.760> or<00:52:20.800> um<00:52:21.359> carry
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  about that lest we insult or um carry
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  about that lest we insult or um carry our<00:52:21.839> prejudices<00:52:22.640> with<00:52:22.960> us.<00:52:23.680> Uh<00:52:24.000> every
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  our prejudices with us. Uh every
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  our prejudices with us. Uh every person's<00:52:24.720> new<00:52:24.960> and<00:52:25.200> different<00:52:25.440> and<00:52:25.680> unique.
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  person's new and different and unique.
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  person's new and different and unique. And<00:52:26.960> Peter,<00:52:27.440> you<00:52:27.760> certainly<00:52:28.079> are.<00:52:28.880> And<00:52:29.119> I<00:52:29.359> want
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  And Peter, you certainly are. And I want
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  And Peter, you certainly are. And I want to<00:52:29.599> thank<00:52:29.839> you<00:52:30.079> so<00:52:30.400> much<00:52:30.960> for<00:52:31.200> your<00:52:31.440> frankness,
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  to thank you so much for your frankness,
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  to thank you so much for your frankness, your<00:52:32.480> openness
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  your openness
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  your openness uh<00:52:34.160> in<00:52:34.400> this<00:52:34.640> discussion.<00:52:35.760> And<00:52:36.160> I<00:52:36.480> hope<00:52:36.640> we
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  uh in this discussion. And I hope we
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  uh in this discussion. And I hope we meet<00:52:37.119> again<00:52:37.359> soon.
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  meet again soon.
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  meet again soon. Same<00:52:39.280> to<00:52:39.440> you<00:52:39.520> and<00:52:39.760> also<00:52:40.000> from<00:52:40.240> my<00:52:40.400> side.<00:52:40.640> Thank
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  Same to you and also from my side. Thank
• 52:40
  Same to you and also from my side. Thank you.<00:52:41.280> It<00:52:41.440> has<00:52:41.599> been<00:52:41.760> a<00:52:41.920> pleasure<00:52:42.160> as<00:52:42.400> always,
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  you. It has been a pleasure as always,
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  you. It has been a pleasure as always, Michael.<00:52:43.520> Uh,<00:52:44.000> so<00:52:44.480> uh,<00:52:44.720> a<00:52:44.960> pleasure<00:52:45.599> being
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  Michael. Uh, so uh, a pleasure being
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  Michael. Uh, so uh, a pleasure being here.
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  here.
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  here. Thank<00:52:47.280> you.<00:52:47.920> Thank<00:52:48.079> you.<00:52:48.240> All<00:52:48.319> the<00:52:48.480> best.
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  Thank you. Thank you. All the best.
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  Thank you. Thank you. All the best. All<00:52:49.599> the<00:52:49.760> best.
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  All the best.
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  All the best. I<00:52:51.680> think<00:52:51.839> Peter<00:52:52.240> leaves<00:52:52.559> us<00:52:52.800> with<00:52:53.119> something
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  I think Peter leaves us with something
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  I think Peter leaves us with something that's<00:52:53.680> bigger<00:52:54.000> than<00:52:54.319> moving<00:52:54.559> to<00:52:54.800> another
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  that's bigger than moving to another
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  that's bigger than moving to another country.<00:52:56.160> Whether<00:52:56.480> it's<00:52:56.720> changing<00:52:57.200> jobs,
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  country. Whether it's changing jobs,
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  country. Whether it's changing jobs, ending<00:52:58.160> a<00:52:58.319> relationship,<00:52:59.040> starting<00:52:59.280> a
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  ending a relationship, starting a
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  ending a relationship, starting a business,<00:53:00.480> or<00:53:00.720> simply<00:53:01.119> trying<00:53:01.440> something
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  business, or simply trying something
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  business, or simply trying something new,<00:53:02.640> growth<00:53:03.119> usually<00:53:03.520> begins<00:53:03.920> the<00:53:04.160> moment<00:53:04.400> we
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  new, growth usually begins the moment we
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  new, growth usually begins the moment we stop<00:53:04.960> waiting<00:53:05.359> for<00:53:05.680> certainty.<00:53:06.880> You<00:53:07.119> don't
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  stop waiting for certainty. You don't
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  stop waiting for certainty. You don't have<00:53:07.359> to<00:53:07.599> know<00:53:08.000> exactly<00:53:08.640> how<00:53:08.960> it<00:53:09.119> will<00:53:09.359> end.
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  have to know exactly how it will end.
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