Latest / The SME Stream / Toby Williams: Federated Farmers spokesperson says rules are needed around levels of investment in Overseas Investment Act reforms
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Overseas investment rules are set to be loosened, with the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Associate Financements to David Seymour calling our current rules quote
- 0:06Speaker 1: the worst in the developed world and if you look
- 0:08Speaker 1: at the score, it's hard not to argue with. We
- 0:11Speaker 1: rank thirty eighth out of thirty eight countries in the
- 0:13Speaker 1: OECD for openness to investment. So once these rules are changed,
- 0:18Speaker 1: and it's going to go before Cabinet, they've agreed principles already,
- 0:21Speaker 1: it'll be done by the end of next year. Will
- 0:23Speaker 1: we see a whole bunch of Kiwi farmland being sold off?
- 0:26Speaker 1: I'm joined by Toby Williams, Fed Farmers Meet and wheelchair Toby.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Good to have you on. What
- 0:34Speaker 1: do you expect to see from this?
- 0:36Speaker 2: We actually make supportive of these rule changes. What we
- 0:40Speaker 2: had in the previous government. We actually had the special
- 0:42Speaker 2: Forestry Test which took a balance away from between farming
- 0:45Speaker 2: and the forestry, so it was only six weeks compared
- 0:47Speaker 2: to two years to be able to buy a farm
- 0:50Speaker 2: keeper farming in six weeks of forestry, so shortening this
- 0:53Speaker 2: up as great, so down till probably about one year
- 0:56Speaker 2: for either, but also having the balance between them. So
- 0:59Speaker 2: if you're going to buy Farmlan for forestry or Farmiland
- 1:02Speaker 2: to keep farming is going to be the same test.
- 1:04Speaker 2: And we're really supportive of.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Do you think there's a lot of farmers wanting to
- 1:08Speaker 1: sell to overseas buyers?
- 1:11Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't think there's a lot of farms
- 1:12Speaker 2: wanted to sell to overseas buyers. But you know, we're
- 1:15Speaker 2: looking at a certain class of farm that overseas buyers
- 1:17Speaker 2: is going to be interested in, and those are the
- 1:19Speaker 2: bigger fans that really keevy farmers can't afford to buy. Anyway,
- 1:22Speaker 2: we wouldn't expect foreign owners to be coming in buying
- 1:25Speaker 2: up farms that first farm owners should be able to buy.
- 1:28Speaker 2: So we expect to see some rules in around here
- 1:30Speaker 2: about the levels of investments that are going to be.
- 1:32Speaker 2: But what we've seen on the St Coast is basically
- 1:34Speaker 2: a foreign investment in the family in which stayed farming.
- 1:36Speaker 2: It's there a massive boost for the regional economy and
- 1:39Speaker 2: it's for the environment for the farm itself.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Is there in terms of overall foreign ownership? Is there
- 1:44Speaker 1: something that fed?
- 1:45Speaker 2: Is there?
- 1:46Speaker 1: A number of FED farmers wouldn't be happy with I
- 1:48Speaker 1: understand at the moment, it's about ten percent of agricultural
- 1:50Speaker 1: land in Australia's foreign ron. Ten percent of productive land
- 1:53Speaker 1: here is owned by foreigners.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we haven't looked at that, if we're honest,
- 1:57Speaker 2: and it's one of those things we have to look
- 1:59Speaker 2: at the deeper to the rules to make sure that
- 2:02Speaker 2: young farmers are still going to be excess to be
- 2:03Speaker 2: able to buy their fans. So we need to look
- 2:05Speaker 2: at levels. And if I use my own fan for example,
- 2:07Speaker 2: you notice I'm very fortunate where I own, and the
- 2:12Speaker 2: value of it means it's unlikely that a first fund buy,
- 2:15Speaker 2: if I was ever to sell it, was be able
- 2:16Speaker 2: to do it, or you know, a lot of keys
- 2:19Speaker 2: probably wouldn't able to afford it either. So if we
- 2:21Speaker 2: ever wanted to sell, you need to have that option,
- 2:23Speaker 2: be able to realize the true value of it. I
- 2:25Speaker 2: paid the value of the rates on those and everything
- 2:28Speaker 2: that goes along with it. So if we're looking at
- 2:30Speaker 2: the true value of the probably need to make sure
- 2:31Speaker 2: that the people are available to be able to do that.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and I suppose handing it on to the kids
- 2:35Speaker 1: not always what it once was. The interest.
- 2:38Speaker 2: No it's not, No, it's not but we've just done now,
- 2:40Speaker 2: you know, a number of years ago. So I've been
- 2:42Speaker 2: very fortunate that Mum and Dad pig are values in
- 2:44Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, and that meant that we're actually be able
- 2:48Speaker 2: to afford We missed that forestry rush, you know, the
- 2:50Speaker 2: sugar rush of the cabin Yeah, so much ink. So
- 2:54Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate. However, we've got to hangover effect of
- 2:57Speaker 2: it and dairy lend, surprise, hasn't maxtually gone up very
- 3:01Speaker 2: much in terms of value with sheeven beef farms over
- 3:04Speaker 2: the last twelve or sixty years have probably gone off
- 3:06Speaker 2: about fifty percent in value what our profitabilities for them.
- 3:08Speaker 2: So there's a real disparate balance.
- 3:10Speaker 1: For you, Toby, thanks for your time. Look forward to
- 3:13Speaker 1: seeing the legislation when it's actually drafted. That's Toby Williams
- 3:17Speaker 1: Fed Farmers Meet and Wheelchair that the legislation will go
- 3:20Speaker 1: out and be done back through Parliament by the end
- 3:23Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. According to David Seymour,