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- 1:02Speaker 1: Welcome to wrestling tracks.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Everybody in the Houston in the house, I'm gonna talk
- 1:06Speaker 2: to you real quick about money in the bank.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I'm ninety champions twenty twenty three.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Last time when we dined, the champions as well as
- 1:15Speaker 2: Peter Diaz's gonna be with.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Us just a moment. Uh. That was May twenty third,
- 1:23Speaker 1: twenty twenty three.
- 1:26Speaker 2: The car took took place in jet Us saw the
- 1:28Speaker 2: Arabia Roma Range was our world our undisputed champion Bianca,
- 1:37Speaker 2: but was our women's champion, the main champions. If you will,
- 1:42Speaker 2: we have like a ten year deal in Saudi, I
- 1:45Speaker 2: believe going back to I was eighteen.
- 1:49Speaker 1: I want to say yeah.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So sometimes when we go over there, it's very controversial.
- 2:00Speaker 2: So we'll see. Uh yeah, we'll see where this year
- 2:06Speaker 2: leaves us. Anyway, far as mad as far as the
- 2:13Speaker 2: three goes, your tournament for the inaugural World Heavyweight Championship,
- 2:24Speaker 2: seth for freaking rollins in the finals to go on
- 2:31Speaker 2: a j styles and he won that tournament, becoming our
- 2:35Speaker 2: undisputed I'm sorry, World heavyweight champion. Church Stratus defeeded Backy
- 2:43Speaker 2: Lynch by penfall. Gumphi defeeding Mustafa Ali Oscar defeated Bianca Belaire.
- 2:53Speaker 2: She's your new Women's Champion of the Time. Rio Ripley
- 2:58Speaker 2: defeated Natalia M. Brock Lessner I actually miss Brock defeated
- 3:10Speaker 2: Cody Rose, Kevin Oen and Sam Zay defeat the Bloodline Roman.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Reigns and Solo so Coah.
- 3:20Speaker 2: And a tag match for the Undisputed Tag Team Championship.
- 3:27Speaker 1: That was then, This is now.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I'm telling you, ladies, jumming, We're pushing forward. We're moving forward, ladies, gentlemen,
- 3:37Speaker 2: and money in the bank has to We're gonna go
- 3:41Speaker 2: back to Saudi.
- 3:46Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to Saudi. Uh. Let's see where's that?
- 3:59Speaker 3: M H.
- 4:02Speaker 2: I believe I pull it up now A champions twenty
- 4:18Speaker 2: twenty five. You're gonna go back to Saudi at the
- 4:21Speaker 2: Kingdom Marina and Ria Saudi Arabia, this time as the
- 4:26Speaker 2: Kingdom Marina.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I believe that is a Oh.
- 4:33Speaker 2: On my mom's birthday June twenty eighth, it's June twenty eighth.
- 4:40Speaker 1: That sounds like a Saturday. I go back he go
- 4:48Speaker 1: here and see here.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Yes, June twenty eighth, on a Saturday, Mom be fifty
- 5:01Speaker 2: seventh fifty sixty seventh fifty seven, and I know why
- 5:05Speaker 2: I put.
- 5:05Speaker 1: The thh on the end.
- 5:07Speaker 2: So I'm happy for your mama, gratulations and happy birthday.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And he is Jenna. If you're got do.
- 5:21Speaker 2: It, doesn't tune in and enjoy it. By the way,
- 5:26Speaker 2: they got uh how to Train Your Dragon? The live
- 5:30Speaker 2: action in theaters right now.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I think I think I got time to play a
- 5:34Speaker 1: little bit.
- 5:35Speaker 2: I'm gonna play not one, but two trailers right now
- 5:39Speaker 2: if I can. All my musical folks, you got your
- 5:47Speaker 2: uh the Wicked musical? Yah, all right, all my people
- 6:12Speaker 2: change this out. How trick and Dragon in theaters right now?
- 6:21Speaker 4: H h.
- 6:29Speaker 3: We're all descendings of the finest dragon PTOs from.
- 6:35Speaker 5: Everywhere a relations ever chopped. M hm, these pieces from
- 6:43Speaker 5: a threat to all of our lives. It's I have
- 6:55Speaker 5: to kill you.
- 6:57Speaker 3: I'm working. I'm working. You're that come bike you.
- 7:05Speaker 6: M It's okay.
- 7:29Speaker 7: Maybe they're not as Spanish, we can do and he
- 7:33Speaker 7: you forgot.
- 7:33Speaker 6: Our parents war, it's about to become ours.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Figure out aside your arm.
- 7:43Speaker 3: It's too parfort to ball.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Wake up downs into them.
- 7:50Speaker 7: Troop of Nope, she's a bread.
- 7:53Speaker 3: You wanted to see this. I'm not one that. Wow,
- 8:00Speaker 3: you've lost everything, your father, you tried, your best friend.
- 8:04Speaker 7: What are you gonna do about it?
- 8:05Speaker 3: Probably something stupid.
- 8:08Speaker 6: Well you've already done that, like something crazy.
- 8:12Speaker 1: That's us.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Stick with me.
- 8:31Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like the size of.
- 8:42Speaker 1: My anything is right now. By the way, it's similar
- 8:49Speaker 1: to the original. I like that. That's cool. It's similar
- 8:55Speaker 1: to the original over there now. I don't think out of.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Time for the for Wicked for Good, but it's in theaters.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Right now, not right now, right now, but.
- 9:09Speaker 2: The theaters November twenty first, so check that out. Also, ladies, gentlemen,
- 9:20Speaker 2: we've got a few business to take care of us.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Let's get that done and we'll be right back.
- 9:26Speaker 2: And when we come back, I believe we're gonna go
- 9:28Speaker 2: to Peter Diazeus. I want to do eleven o'clock, but
- 9:34Speaker 2: I might do it a little bit early if he's
- 9:38Speaker 2: ready to roll, and I'll say good, so we'll be
- 9:48Speaker 2: right back to get a little business.
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- 10:25Speaker 1: And one more, Ladies of gentlemen. Now that was my mom,
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- 12:24Speaker 2: Today, and I believe he should be ready. Get my
- 12:31Speaker 2: questions together. You can, by the way, if you sit
- 12:34Speaker 2: in your questions, you can do that. Wrestler tracks at
- 12:37Speaker 2: GBA dot com. Wrestler tracks at GBA dot com. And
- 12:46Speaker 2: I believe I actually have them somewhere. Y'all give me
- 12:52Speaker 2: a minute. If we can't reach you on the on
- 12:58Speaker 2: the phone line, read your comment later. Don't get discouraged.
- 13:04Speaker 2: If you can't get through the phone line, that's cool.
- 13:07Speaker 2: You can still leave a message and we'll call you
- 13:10Speaker 2: will read it later. Everybody, one second here, all right
- 13:21Speaker 2: after this day, peuse.
- 13:38Speaker 1: All right now.
- 13:40Speaker 2: And just the moment, I'm gonna get my boy on
- 13:43Speaker 2: the phone. Pastor p dzuse, he's my friend. He's my pastor,
- 13:49Speaker 2: and I got your questions just the second I can
- 13:52Speaker 2: find them by I pull them on a second here
- 13:56Speaker 2: I wrote them down or email to myself when you
- 14:00Speaker 2: got to sit to me in.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I should have him all right, he is right here,
- 14:21Speaker 1: all right, I.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Got your questions. Now time to bring in the man himself,
- 14:28Speaker 2: pastor Peter Diaceus. I got your questions, he got your answers.
- 14:35Speaker 1: He's a cool dude. We're gonna go. We're gonna, uh.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Give him a second, give himself together. He's a lot
- 14:44Speaker 2: of he's a little bit busy all over the places.
- 14:47Speaker 2: I think he should be ready right now, so I'll
- 14:51Speaker 2: further the ado. I'm gonna bring him in.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Hang on a second.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I don'mally just text him. Are we rarely talking on
- 15:03Speaker 2: the phone. We just normally text. So I'm gonna call
- 15:06Speaker 2: him right now.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Here you go hello and go, oh wors man? Is
- 15:19Speaker 1: he not? Is he not ready?
- 15:23Speaker 3: Hello? And go.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Yo h? Here you go, hey bro? You're doing? How
- 15:45Speaker 1: you doing? I'm doing alright?
- 15:48Speaker 4: How you doing?
- 15:49Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 15:49Speaker 1: Cars went straight to wardsmil all right like man like
- 15:55Speaker 1: like what's funny?
- 15:57Speaker 3: Like just you.
- 16:01Speaker 2: I can round up every pastor I can think of
- 16:05Speaker 2: like let's say, let let's say on a Saturday, I
- 16:08Speaker 2: can call him every pastor I can think of all
- 16:11Speaker 2: all of them going to Watsmell, especially on Saturday.
- 16:16Speaker 3: You don't need time direct uh man, Well.
- 16:19Speaker 2: Lady and gim I got my differend. Pastor Peter did
- 16:22Speaker 2: Sis in the house. He's the pastor of my church
- 16:25Speaker 2: at Vitry Hill Church. He's the he's the president of
- 16:29Speaker 2: the assist Ministries and believe it, and he had a
- 16:34Speaker 2: few he has a he has a book out now.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Uh now it's time for rare revival. And he's worked
- 16:41Speaker 1: on another book.
- 16:45Speaker 2: She's uh, I haven't got full details on that, but
- 16:49Speaker 2: he's working on it here and there, and I think
- 16:52Speaker 2: it's gonna be good.
- 16:58Speaker 7: A man, thank you so much to leave for having
- 17:01Speaker 7: me on your program.
- 17:02Speaker 3: I appreciate you, my brother and my friend. And it's
- 17:06Speaker 3: an honor to serve the Lord together of course with
- 17:09Speaker 3: my lovely bride of twenty nine and a half years,
- 17:13Speaker 3: Pastor Millie, who's our lead pastor at Victory Hill Church,
- 17:18Speaker 3: and I get to co lead with her. And also
- 17:21Speaker 3: she's my co lead for Dejus Ministries, which is our
- 17:24Speaker 3: evangelistic ministry that I lead, and together she and I
- 17:28Speaker 3: we do ministry shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand, knowing
- 17:32Speaker 3: that the scripture tells us that two are better than one,
- 17:36Speaker 3: and knowing that the Scripture tells us that when the
- 17:38Speaker 3: power of God comes on somebody's life, one can put
- 17:40Speaker 3: a thousand enemies to flight, but two can put ten
- 17:43Speaker 3: thousand enemies to flight. So there is exponential impact for
- 17:47Speaker 3: God's kingdom when we can do things together. And so
- 17:50Speaker 3: I'm blessed to do that together with my lovely bride,
- 17:54Speaker 3: Pastor Millie. I'm blessed to preach the glorious Gospel of
- 18:00Speaker 3: Jesus and his Kingdom to people in English and in Spanish,
- 18:04Speaker 3: people throughout our area of the Dallas Botworth area and
- 18:07Speaker 3: throughout Texas and even our nation. And as far as
- 18:12Speaker 3: the books, We've actually written two books all written, and
- 18:15Speaker 3: I'm soon working on the third book. The first book
- 18:18Speaker 3: was called It Now is the Time subtitle accelerated Timing
- 18:22Speaker 3: for exponential Impact. It was based on Hagi chapter one
- 18:26Speaker 3: and chapter two connected to Zachariah chapter three. And then
- 18:30Speaker 3: the second book we wrote is called Revival Now History
- 18:35Speaker 3: is in the making for the next Great Awakening and
- 18:38Speaker 3: that's based on the Book of Acts, but also scriptures
- 18:41Speaker 3: throughout the Old and the New Testament regarding revival and
- 18:45Speaker 3: spiritual awakening. And the third book that I've already begun
- 18:49Speaker 3: working on and will continue working on sleep is called
- 18:53Speaker 3: Your Double Portion Blessing, discovering.
- 18:56Speaker 7: Who He is and all He has for you.
- 19:00Speaker 3: And so that's going to be a book that's connected
- 19:03Speaker 3: to Zachariah Cha nine verses nine through twelve, which prophetically
- 19:08Speaker 3: messianically speaks to Jesus himself being the one that will
- 19:13Speaker 3: come and restore double to us. And so you know,
- 19:17Speaker 3: show through God's words from the Old Testament to New
- 19:19Speaker 3: Testament that the double portion blessing is more than just
- 19:22Speaker 3: something we receive from God to Father. It is someone
- 19:26Speaker 3: we get to receive from God the Father, that none
- 19:29Speaker 3: other than Jesus Christ, his only begotten son, our Lord
- 19:34Speaker 3: and King, and that when we truly get connected with
- 19:37Speaker 3: him and allow him to be one with us, we
- 19:40Speaker 3: receive all of who he is and all of what
- 19:43Speaker 3: he has in his kingdom for us to enjoy, not
- 19:47Speaker 3: only on the life that we're living here this side
- 19:51Speaker 3: of eternity, but also in the other side of eternity,
- 19:55Speaker 3: to come. So I'm excited about all that the Lord
- 19:57Speaker 3: is having us do by his great for his glory,
- 20:01Speaker 3: and I'm glad that I get to be on this
- 20:03Speaker 3: program with you.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Today and I'm looking forward to it. So we have
- 20:08Speaker 1: a few questions that people sitting in here. I'm gonna
- 20:12Speaker 1: just go through them.
- 20:13Speaker 2: First one here I have. I'm gonna try to remember
- 20:18Speaker 2: the names. Uh, all right, now I'm gonna I.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Know, I want to start light or in I don't know,
- 20:29Speaker 1: I want to start in lights. I'm just jump into it.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Uh all right, here we go. This is a good one.
- 20:37Speaker 1: All right. So you're like part in ministry. We have
- 20:43Speaker 1: a whole lot on our plate.
- 20:45Speaker 2: We got there's traveling, there's preaching, they're studying, there's all
- 20:50Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. How do you keep all that
- 20:53Speaker 2: orderly before you execute that by Sunday morning or whenever
- 20:58Speaker 2: you have to speak.
- 21:00Speaker 3: That's a great question. First, let me say that it
- 21:06Speaker 3: is something that has to be made a priority, just
- 21:12Speaker 3: when we look at anything in life. If you are
- 21:16Speaker 3: going to be able to keep things in order, that's
- 21:20Speaker 3: going to require prioritizing things.
- 21:23Speaker 7: So the first thought that.
- 21:25Speaker 3: I would have is it.
- 21:26Speaker 7: Takes making things priorities in your life.
- 21:33Speaker 3: In my case, obviously, my priorities first and foremost start
- 21:38Speaker 3: with my relationship with God.
- 21:41Speaker 9: As my heavenly Father, Jesus as my elder brother and
- 21:44Speaker 9: bridegroom to be, and Holy Spirit as my best friend.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Then second to that is of course making a priority
- 21:53Speaker 3: for my marriage with doctor Mildrid.
- 21:56Speaker 7: We've been married twenty nine and a half years.
- 21:58Speaker 3: We've been blessed with our three children, David and Samantha
- 22:03Speaker 3: and Gabriella ages twenty four and twenty six twenty eight.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Of course, Gabriella and Samantha are married, Gabriella to Jackson
- 22:12Speaker 3: and Samantha to Christian to call him Chris. And then
- 22:16Speaker 3: of course Gabriella and Jackson have their first daughter, Aria,
- 22:22Speaker 3: who was about to turn three in August, and they've
- 22:24Speaker 3: got a baby on the way, Rowan at least who
- 22:27Speaker 3: will be born in August. We're willing, and so I
- 22:32Speaker 3: have to prioritize my time with the Lord, my time
- 22:38Speaker 3: with my wife, my time with our family, and then
- 22:43Speaker 3: my time in of course taking care of our home
- 22:47Speaker 3: with many different responsibilities we have as regards to our home,
- 22:53Speaker 3: and then of course ministry, and it's a blessing. Like
- 22:56Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, that I get to do ministry together
- 22:59Speaker 3: with my wife. That allows us to work as a team,
- 23:02Speaker 3: and the acronym of team goes together everyone accomplishes more
- 23:08Speaker 3: being able to have that team with my wife, and
- 23:12Speaker 3: then at the local church at Victory Hill Church that
- 23:14Speaker 3: pastor Million and I lead together. We also have our
- 23:17Speaker 3: children very involved in the fact two daughters are part
- 23:21Speaker 3: of the pastoral team and their husbands, our sun in
- 23:23Speaker 3: laws are part of the pastoral team. So being able
- 23:27Speaker 3: to do things not only as a family but also
- 23:29Speaker 3: as a team allows me to when I put things
- 23:33Speaker 3: in priority, be able to do all the different things
- 23:38Speaker 3: that you mentioned, whether it's my time with the Lord,
- 23:41Speaker 3: my time with my wife, my time with my family,
- 23:44Speaker 3: our time with our church family, our time with our
- 23:46Speaker 3: evangelistic ministry, and our time in writing books, recording music,
- 23:52Speaker 3: which we've also done and all of that music is
- 23:56Speaker 3: available I believe on Spotify as well. And so it
- 24:02Speaker 3: takes prioritizing, It takes making time for those different things.
- 24:07Speaker 3: It takes being part of the team where everybody can
- 24:12Speaker 3: help contribute to carrying the weight and the load. And
- 24:16Speaker 3: then of course it takes you know, some goal setting.
- 24:19Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that I'm the greatest at
- 24:22Speaker 3: setting and accomplishing the goals. But if you don't have
- 24:27Speaker 3: I learned many many years.
- 24:28Speaker 7: Ago from the great password doctor John Hagy if don't.
- 24:33Speaker 3: You, if you fail to plan, you will plan to fail.
- 24:37Speaker 3: If you fail to plan, you will plan to fail.
- 24:40Speaker 3: So in life, no matter what we're all doing, and
- 24:44Speaker 3: especially in the Kingdom of God, the Father and the
- 24:45Speaker 3: Family of Christ, we need to make sure that we
- 24:49Speaker 3: have a plan that He is given to us, and
- 24:52Speaker 3: then put that into place and work towards it. Otherwise,
- 24:55Speaker 3: if we fail to plan, we will plan to fail.
- 24:59Speaker 1: I don't want these two things. First of all, you you.
- 25:04Speaker 1: I told you this.
- 25:05Speaker 3: You. You.
- 25:06Speaker 1: You are a John Hagen guy.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Through and through because life you figure cause you is you.
- 25:12Speaker 2: You Pastor John, your y'all manism. For example, Pastor John,
- 25:16Speaker 2: he preaches a certain point, he get excited and y'all
- 25:21Speaker 2: give him praise the glory in the House of God,
- 25:24Speaker 2: and then you do the same thing.
- 25:27Speaker 7: Man.
- 25:28Speaker 3: I'd like to say that my life has been positively,
- 25:33Speaker 3: profoundly influenced by the life and the ministry of Pastor
- 25:37Speaker 3: John Hagey and also his amazing son who's the lead
- 25:41Speaker 3: pastor now Cornerstone Church, Pastor Matt Hagen. So I have
- 25:44Speaker 3: great respect for Pastor John Hageen, Pastor Matt Hageen, and
- 25:48Speaker 3: the Age family and the Cornerstone Church and all that
- 25:51Speaker 3: they do for the Kingdom. In fact, when when I
- 25:53Speaker 3: consider what the Lord has a sign of Pastor Milli
- 25:56Speaker 3: and I to do, I see it as on a
- 26:00Speaker 3: very micro level compared to Pastors Hagi on a very
- 26:05Speaker 3: macail global worldwide level. They have been definitely an inspiration
- 26:12Speaker 3: and and a great example to be able to to
- 26:16Speaker 3: uh seek to follow after. And once again, anything that
- 26:20Speaker 3: Pastor Milli and I have been able to attain by
- 26:21Speaker 3: Guy's grave before his glory is very micro in comparison
- 26:25Speaker 3: to all the amazing things that the pastors uh in
- 26:29Speaker 3: the Hazing family have continue and will continue to attain.
- 26:32Speaker 3: We have great respect for them.
- 26:33Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now, like as far as like you mentioned
- 26:37Speaker 2: your kids and let me tell you something that is
- 26:39Speaker 2: but that's a lot because like you're with you, like, uh, now,
- 26:44Speaker 2: two out of the three are gone, grown and gone.
- 26:47Speaker 1: The third ones like kind of going and gone is
- 26:50Speaker 1: he's going kind of that gone is no he lives
- 26:54Speaker 1: at home, and he got.
- 26:57Speaker 3: His bachelor's degree from the Assumbies that got union in
- 27:01Speaker 3: the Dallas area used to becall Southwestern assemblies about it
- 27:05Speaker 3: is now called Nelson University. And now he is seriously
- 27:09Speaker 3: confidentated in going back for his master's degree so that
- 27:12Speaker 3: he could get a master's degree in educational leadership and
- 27:17Speaker 3: pursue not only being an educator, but perhaps even an
- 27:21Speaker 3: administrator of a school in the future. And so, in fact,
- 27:26Speaker 3: I'll steal a little bit of his thunder because just
- 27:28Speaker 3: this week he got the exciting news that he's been
- 27:31Speaker 3: hired by Life School, one of the great charter schools
- 27:35Speaker 3: in the Dallas Fort Worth area, And so he now
- 27:39Speaker 3: has a full time.
- 27:39Speaker 7: Job and we'll be starting this coming August.
- 27:42Speaker 3: So we're excited about everything that God's doing in all
- 27:46Speaker 3: of our children, David our son, Samantha, our second oldest daughter,
- 27:51Speaker 3: and Gabriel our oldest daughter, and then of course Gabriella
- 27:54Speaker 3: and Sam's husbands, and that's Jackson and creating that.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Like as they were growing up, did you ever like,
- 28:05Speaker 1: did you ever? Do you ever? Will you ever? Uh
- 28:08Speaker 1: see uh?
- 28:10Speaker 2: Like the most most most pastors of kids do this
- 28:15Speaker 2: quite often most of them, I said all of them,
- 28:17Speaker 2: most of them.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Every once in a while they like they'd be like,
- 28:21Speaker 1: you know, you got to call you.
- 28:24Speaker 3: M When you say you.
- 28:28Speaker 1: Like, I'll give you a sample.
- 28:30Speaker 10: So uh.
- 28:31Speaker 2: In Atlanta, Georgia, there's a famous preacher family called the
- 28:35Speaker 2: King family.
- 28:37Speaker 1: Barnl Luther King Junior's family.
- 28:40Speaker 2: All his family are preachers, every last, well not all
- 28:44Speaker 2: of them, every the majority of his family are preachers.
- 28:47Speaker 1: His grandfather on his mother's.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Side he's a preacher, His uncle's a preacher, his brother's
- 28:53Speaker 2: a preacher. All of them as preachers. Unfortunately he is assassinated.
- 28:58Speaker 2: He missed out, not missed out.
- 29:01Speaker 1: But you need to live. See his children, Uh, go
- 29:05Speaker 1: go to give the opportunity to go to the ministry.
- 29:09Speaker 3: Uh.
- 29:10Speaker 2: And out of out of four children, only one of
- 29:13Speaker 2: them had had the desire to go to the ministry.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Uh.
- 29:18Speaker 2: Doctor Bernice King so like and his father Marty King
- 29:23Speaker 2: singing with actually all the time every once in a
- 29:26Speaker 2: while like have you gotten the call yet?
- 29:28Speaker 1: Like have you gotten the desire to go to go
- 29:31Speaker 1: in the to go in the preacher? You call it
- 29:33Speaker 1: the call?
- 29:35Speaker 7: Yes, hey man, that's a great question.
- 29:38Speaker 3: And let me just in the same way that I
- 29:41Speaker 3: give honor to whom honor is due when it comes
- 29:43Speaker 3: to Pastors Hagi and their family and their ministry. We
- 29:47Speaker 3: also thank God for the life of Doctor Martin Luther
- 29:50Speaker 3: King Junior and his legacy that has last from generation
- 29:58Speaker 3: to generation and will continue to last. And although yes,
- 30:03Speaker 3: his life was tragically cut short, his influence has not.
- 30:09Speaker 3: It has multiplied, and it has helped to expand the
- 30:14Speaker 3: Kingdom of God here in our nation and throughout the world.
- 30:18Speaker 3: So we honor the life and the leadership and the
- 30:23Speaker 3: lasting legacy of the great Doctor Martin Luther King Junior.
- 30:27Speaker 3: With regards to the question of how Familia and I,
- 30:31Speaker 3: after our kids haven't gotten the call yet, I would
- 30:35Speaker 3: say we've done that throughout their lifetime, not so much
- 30:39Speaker 3: as a question of asking them, have you gotten the
- 30:43Speaker 3: call yet? We made it a declaration. You are called.
- 30:48Speaker 7: Yes, yes, you are called.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Now. What we have been careful to do is let
- 30:54Speaker 3: them know throughout their lifetime. Gabrielle is twenty eight, that
- 31:00Speaker 3: is twenty fifth, David is twenty four, and we have
- 31:04Speaker 3: told them throughout their lifetime that the giftings and the
- 31:07Speaker 3: calling of God, according to the Book of Romance chapter eleven.
- 31:12Speaker 3: They are without repentance. God doesn't change his mind regardless
- 31:15Speaker 3: of changing times or changing seasons that we all go
- 31:18Speaker 3: through in life. At the same time, we have told
- 31:22Speaker 3: them that every gifting and calling of God is very
- 31:26Speaker 3: unique and it does not mean that they need to
- 31:30Speaker 3: be a copient paste of their mom and their dad,
- 31:34Speaker 3: Pastebody and myself.
- 31:35Speaker 7: So we have let them know that they're all three called.
- 31:39Speaker 3: Anyone that connects to our family.
- 31:41Speaker 7: We're going to let them know their call to We're.
- 31:43Speaker 3: Not going to ask them have you called?
- 31:45Speaker 7: Have you gotten a call yet?
- 31:47Speaker 3: We're going to tell them, yes, you are called, so
- 31:49Speaker 3: he called.
- 31:50Speaker 7: You are called, yes, and just encourage them to seek
- 31:55Speaker 7: the Lord for.
- 31:56Speaker 3: What the specific assignment to that calling is, whether it is,
- 32:02Speaker 3: for example, Gabriella, as you know, she's our worship leader
- 32:06Speaker 3: at Victory Hill Church and so that is certainly a
- 32:09Speaker 3: major part of her calling. Samantha. She is, together with
- 32:15Speaker 3: Pat Kris, are a nix and pastor, which means the
- 32:21Speaker 3: next generation, specifically first and foremost to the underdults, the
- 32:25Speaker 3: Millennials and the gen Z, but then also they provide
- 32:29Speaker 3: covering and mentorship and coaching and help to our youth
- 32:33Speaker 3: pastors John and Lindy and so.
- 32:37Speaker 7: Fam Even in her career she is She's got.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Her master's degree in social work, and so she is
- 32:45Speaker 3: a therapist.
- 32:46Speaker 7: She works for the Dallas.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Independent School District and she's a finding with therapist.
- 32:52Speaker 7: So even in her job, in her career, she is
- 32:56Speaker 7: the ministry.
- 32:57Speaker 3: She is fulfilling a calling of God on her life
- 33:01Speaker 3: to the next generation because a lot of the students
- 33:03Speaker 3: she's working with working for the Dallas Inpendent School District
- 33:06Speaker 3: as a bilingual therapist are young people and so and
- 33:11Speaker 3: then even our son David, the job that he just
- 33:15Speaker 3: received and accepted is at a high school.
- 33:20Speaker 7: So he has in the past here.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Been hypnot as a as a substitute teacher for several
- 33:29Speaker 3: of the campuses that the Life School charge schools in
- 33:32Speaker 3: the dallasport Worth area. But what he's enjoyed the most
- 33:36Speaker 3: is working with the high school students. So even there
- 33:40Speaker 3: we see that the calling of God is on each
- 33:43Speaker 3: of their lives. Gabriella with worship amongst other things, Samantha
- 33:47Speaker 3: with next to chin and providing social work slash therap
- 33:53Speaker 3: being a therapist slash kind of being a consult and
- 33:56Speaker 3: then our son David being a substitute teacher now having
- 34:00Speaker 3: a full time position with the Life School, he will
- 34:04Speaker 3: be not only a full time so he will be
- 34:07Speaker 3: one of their administrative assistants. And we believe that it's
- 34:12Speaker 3: the beginning of great things that God has and so
- 34:14Speaker 3: for him to be an educator, uh, for the next
- 34:18Speaker 3: generation of wealth. So and that's just the beginning.
- 34:21Speaker 7: We believe God has more for our kids. So thank
- 34:25Speaker 7: you for your question.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Yes, we continue to tell our kids you are called.
- 34:29Speaker 3: And it's not a matter of a question, but it's
- 34:31Speaker 3: a matter of a declaration. And we thank God that
- 34:34Speaker 3: that that calling of God is generation. You know, it
- 34:38Speaker 3: goes for generation and generation. As we know that our
- 34:40Speaker 3: God is a God of Abraham, the God of I
- 34:43Speaker 3: and the God of take it. He's the god of
- 34:45Speaker 3: three generations and then a whole lot more than just
- 34:48Speaker 3: three generations. But that's crupture. Reverence shows us that he
- 34:52Speaker 3: does have a generational call in normal families.
- 34:54Speaker 7: And we believe by God's creation for his Lord, we have.
- 34:56Speaker 3: It in our minds.
- 34:57Speaker 2: And now now I'm getting heavy with you. I got
- 35:01Speaker 2: a question here, Uh, Like I had a question that
- 35:06Speaker 2: said Jesus told us that if you commit adult you
- 35:10Speaker 2: if you, if you get divorced and remarried, commit adultery. Now,
- 35:14Speaker 2: if you were, if you repented that divorce, you repinned
- 35:17Speaker 2: that adultery. Are if you're of course, he forgives you
- 35:21Speaker 2: who you repent.
- 35:22Speaker 1: But are you like? But with the wife that you remarried, like?
- 35:27Speaker 3: Are you like?
- 35:32Speaker 1: I'm trying to if my mind had this, I had this,
- 35:35Speaker 1: It makes sense in my mind what it was. I
- 35:38Speaker 1: read the question.
- 35:40Speaker 2: Jesus forgets you after you repented of your divorce, but
- 35:46Speaker 2: with your new wife that you have, Now, where where does.
- 35:49Speaker 1: That go from there?
- 35:51Speaker 3: That's a great question. Uh. First and foremost I will
- 35:56Speaker 3: reiterate with in the scriptures of starting in the book
- 35:59Speaker 3: of Genesis, chapter three or chapter two, actually that it
- 36:07Speaker 3: is not good for man to be alone, and so
- 36:11Speaker 3: that the Lord made a helpmate for him, and she
- 36:16Speaker 3: became bone of bone and flesh and flesh. And what
- 36:20Speaker 3: God has put together, let no one separate, right, And
- 36:24Speaker 3: so that's that's the perfect will of God for the
- 36:28Speaker 3: institution of marriage. We see that reiterated throughout the scriptures.
- 36:35Speaker 3: In the New Testament, it is registered in at least
- 36:39Speaker 3: two of the four Gospels, and then it's also reiterated
- 36:43Speaker 3: in the Book of Ephesians chapter five that a man
- 36:47Speaker 3: shall leave his father and his mother, and will be
- 36:50Speaker 3: he joined his wife, or cleave his wife, and the
- 36:52Speaker 3: two shall become one. And and and again. What God
- 36:56Speaker 3: has put together, let no one place us under or separate.
- 36:59Speaker 3: So I would remind ourselves that God's perfect will for
- 37:02Speaker 3: the institution of marriage is for marriage not to experience divorce.
- 37:08Speaker 3: That very important to establish because if we forget that
- 37:13Speaker 3: and overlook that, then we will think that we have
- 37:17Speaker 3: grounds to seek a divorce when what we should be
- 37:21Speaker 3: doing is seeking the Lord and seeking for reconciliation in
- 37:27Speaker 3: a marriage covenant that may be strained, that may be
- 37:30Speaker 3: going through some very difficult times, that may have failed
- 37:34Speaker 3: not just one the other, but each other having failed
- 37:37Speaker 3: each other. So it's important to always seek the perfect
- 37:42Speaker 3: will of God, and in the marriage context is to
- 37:46Speaker 3: not get divorced. Let's consider your question, someone gets married,
- 37:53Speaker 3: someone gets divorced, and according to the conture referring to
- 37:59Speaker 3: that Jesus mentioned, I believe one of the passages is
- 38:02Speaker 3: specifically Mark chapter ten, where Jesus is speaking to the
- 38:06Speaker 3: Pharisees and there's the religious people, because they were trying
- 38:10Speaker 3: to trap him, and they were asking him, what do
- 38:13Speaker 3: you think. Moses law tells us that a man is
- 38:16Speaker 3: permitted to give his wife a letter of divorce, and
- 38:20Speaker 3: Jesus responds again it being written that God has put
- 38:26Speaker 3: together let no one place asunder or superate. And then
- 38:30Speaker 3: Jesus also deals with the issue that you're asking is
- 38:33Speaker 3: if a man divorces his wife and re marries another,
- 38:36Speaker 3: he has committed adultery with her, That's what the scripture says,
- 38:40Speaker 3: and she with him, if she is one that has
- 38:43Speaker 3: been divorced, she has committed about well. So the fact
- 38:47Speaker 3: of the matter is it's not Gout's will, not only
- 38:51Speaker 3: for it's not God's perfect will for divorce. Secondly, it's
- 38:55Speaker 3: not God's will for adultery to take place. So we
- 38:59Speaker 3: have to consider the severity of that. Does adultry take place, Yes,
- 39:04Speaker 3: unfortunately it does. But again I'm going back to what's
- 39:07Speaker 3: God's will, God's perfect will. And then when sin happens,
- 39:12Speaker 3: or when more importantly, sin is committed volitionally by someone,
- 39:16Speaker 3: whether it's the husband or the wife, is there room
- 39:19Speaker 3: for forgiveness. The answer is absolutely yes. We know that
- 39:22Speaker 3: the Word of God tells us in First John. I
- 39:26Speaker 3: believe it's chapter two that if we confess, confess your
- 39:31Speaker 3: sins to the Lord, he is faithful and just to
- 39:33Speaker 3: forgive us of our sins and cleans us of all
- 39:36Speaker 3: and righteousness. We also know in this pictures there's only
- 39:39Speaker 3: one unpardonable or unforgivable sin, and that's the blasphemy of
- 39:43Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit. And so adultery is not the blasphemy
- 39:46Speaker 3: of the Holy Spirit.
- 39:47Speaker 7: We understand that.
- 39:48Speaker 3: So can can adultery be forgiven? Yes, it can be forgiven,
- 39:54Speaker 3: just like all the other sins can be forgiven outside
- 39:56Speaker 3: of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
- 39:59Speaker 7: Now again, go back to your example.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Adultery is committed, forgiveness is asked for and granted. We
- 40:10Speaker 3: hope that it's a real, true, repentant conviction, realizing the
- 40:16Speaker 3: broken not just God's law on God's word. They've broken
- 40:20Speaker 3: God's heart by that adulterous act or continued relationship. Okay,
- 40:26Speaker 3: let's thank God forgives them and they get married with
- 40:30Speaker 3: the person they committed adultery with.
- 40:35Speaker 7: Are they now living in adultery?
- 40:37Speaker 3: Well, according to the forgiveness of God, if they repented,
- 40:41Speaker 3: if they was truly broken in contrary of heart, they
- 40:46Speaker 3: could be forgiven and then they can continue in their
- 40:52Speaker 3: new marriage. Now, is that the perfect rule of God?
- 40:55Speaker 3: Absolutely not. The force is not the perfect rule of God?
- 40:59Speaker 3: Is adults treat the perfect will of God? Absolutely not.
- 41:02Speaker 3: That's a sin, that's a grace. And should we seek
- 41:06Speaker 3: to take advantage of the institution of marriage and break
- 41:11Speaker 3: it whenever we.
- 41:12Speaker 7: Feel like Absolutely not. Should we seek to say, well,
- 41:16Speaker 7: I'm just.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Gonna go ahead and commit adultry and then get married
- 41:19Speaker 3: with the person not committed aultry because God can forget
- 41:21Speaker 3: me and we can just start all over again. We
- 41:24Speaker 3: should be careful with that mindset. That's not a God
- 41:26Speaker 3: who mindset, because it appears that we're taking advantage of
- 41:30Speaker 3: the grace of God. Here's the thing, brotherly, my dear friend,
- 41:35Speaker 3: is that God knows the heart of the man and
- 41:39Speaker 3: the woman right.
- 41:40Speaker 7: And if God sees that the heart of the man
- 41:43Speaker 7: or the woman.
- 41:45Speaker 3: Is that they're trying to take advantage of God's grace
- 41:50Speaker 3: and trying to look for permissions instead of pursuing His
- 41:53Speaker 3: perfect will, sooner or later, He's going to get up
- 41:58Speaker 3: to them. Because our decisions have consequenses. Because who's to say.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Who's to say if the man or the women, or
- 42:07Speaker 3: both man and women, we're not turly repentive and have
- 42:12Speaker 3: issues with loust and go from one marriage through a
- 42:18Speaker 3: divorce into another marriage, who's to say they're not going
- 42:22Speaker 3: to be tempted by the enemy to start lusting after
- 42:26Speaker 3: somebody else, and all of a sudden they're back in
- 42:30Speaker 3: square one, They're back at ground zero, and now they're
- 42:34Speaker 3: having to relearn the lesson they should have learned of
- 42:37Speaker 3: the first marriage. So we have to be careful that
- 42:43Speaker 3: we pursue the perfect will of God, not the permissions
- 42:47Speaker 3: of God, such as is the case of March up
- 42:49Speaker 3: to ten seeking for permission for divorce instead of seeking
- 42:52Speaker 3: for the perfect will of marriage. Until that's those part,
- 42:55Speaker 3: and we have to make sure we don't try to
- 42:57Speaker 3: take advantage of the grace of God and try to
- 43:00Speaker 3: take advantage of the thought of well, if I just seen,
- 43:03Speaker 3: I can ask the forgiveness and I'm good. And although
- 43:06Speaker 3: that can be true and is true biblically, if the
- 43:10Speaker 3: person hasn't truly repented, and that issue that they're struggling
- 43:14Speaker 3: with that led to the first divorce is still something
- 43:17Speaker 3: they're struggling with in the second marriage that if they're
- 43:20Speaker 3: not careful, before they know it, they're dealing with the
- 43:23Speaker 3: same issue again. And now they're dealing with a second divorce,
- 43:27Speaker 3: and if they don't deal with it correctly, then they
- 43:30Speaker 3: jump into a third marriage, and then two an.
- 43:32Speaker 7: Ear later they're dealing with a third divorce.
- 43:34Speaker 3: And well, you get to him. You get the picture.
- 43:38Speaker 3: It becomes a thankful of some very unfortunate life experience,
- 43:46Speaker 3: is that the man or the woman, or both the
- 43:49Speaker 3: man and the women are having to deal with because
- 43:51Speaker 3: they wouldn't they didn't seek the perfect will of God
- 43:54Speaker 3: at first to stay married, and or they didn't anunderstand
- 44:00Speaker 3: that you're not supposed to take advantage of the grace
- 44:02Speaker 3: of God to just pursue whatever we personally want versus
- 44:07Speaker 3: sticking to the principles of God's word and working out
- 44:09Speaker 3: their marriage the way God calls us to.
- 44:12Speaker 8: That's good.
- 44:13Speaker 1: I had this other one right here.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Uh.
- 44:16Speaker 1: First, I'm I'm gonna tell you this a little story first.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Uh.
- 44:21Speaker 2: I remember, uh, I used to be a believe it
- 44:24Speaker 2: or not somewhere but trouble maker, different school, and I
- 44:28Speaker 2: remember my dad picked me up from school from primpis office.
- 44:33Speaker 1: And you know in the South we.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Spank got kids. You know, it's time out. Time out
- 44:41Speaker 2: don't work, it really don't. But it's easy own. So
- 44:45Speaker 2: I remember my dad's nick. I could answer that.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I could answer it at the time. I get it.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Now I can answer at the time. My dad's need
- 44:51Speaker 1: a question. He said, Hey, look Judas and Peter. Judas
- 44:58Speaker 1: stabbed Jesus.
- 44:59Speaker 2: In the bat Peter to die Jesus, which sin is
- 45:03Speaker 2: worse At the time, like I just love, I just
- 45:07Speaker 2: love speechless, I was like, I couldn't answer that at
- 45:11Speaker 2: the time. Now sin is sin, but both of them,
- 45:15Speaker 2: but both of them was guilty. Mm hmm, the senate
- 45:20Speaker 2: sin at the time, like wow, M I couldn't like
- 45:27Speaker 2: even though even though Peter did deny Jesus first of all,
- 45:32Speaker 2: and he is the moment. Secondly, Jesus told me was
- 45:35Speaker 2: gonna do that. Thirdly, first of all, he told me
- 45:38Speaker 2: gonna do that. Secondly, the moment we've all said, we've
- 45:42Speaker 2: all said done stuff like when it's hide and when
- 45:46Speaker 2: the moment is hid and heavy and things and things
- 45:49Speaker 2: get real.
- 45:49Speaker 1: We were all said and done stuff. We were read later.
- 45:54Speaker 2: And I could I couldn't uh explain that I couldn't
- 45:59Speaker 2: get that. Then I'm one time doing something and all
- 46:03Speaker 2: of a sudden it's hit me. Oh okay, I get it.
- 46:07Speaker 1: Now. Both of them were wrong, correct, you know?
- 46:16Speaker 3: And the difference, one of the major distinguishing factors between
- 46:22Speaker 3: Peter and Judas is that Peter repented Judas. The scripture
- 46:28Speaker 3: says that he was remorseful, and so the two words
- 46:34Speaker 3: repent and remorse, although they start with the same two
- 46:38Speaker 3: letters of reading, which means again, pent has to do
- 46:44Speaker 3: not only with the top like the pent house of
- 46:48Speaker 3: the top.
- 46:49Speaker 7: Level or story of a skyscraper.
- 46:53Speaker 3: But pent also has to do with the mind. To
- 46:58Speaker 3: repent means to rethink, and it implied to change the
- 47:04Speaker 3: way you think so you can change the way you live.
- 47:08Speaker 3: So there was a desire in Peter to get back
- 47:11Speaker 3: on top. He knew he fell, He knew he needed
- 47:15Speaker 3: to reconsider his ways. He needed to change the way
- 47:18Speaker 3: he thought about things so he could change what he believed.
- 47:23Speaker 3: What he believed would change.
- 47:24Speaker 10: How he speak spoke, and how he spoke would change
- 47:27Speaker 10: how he would add, how he would act, could change behavior, conduct, lifestyle,
- 47:34Speaker 10: and destiny.
- 47:35Speaker 3: And Peter did repent and cover that he came out
- 47:40Speaker 3: on top again. Now, Judas didn't repent. His Churture never
- 47:44Speaker 3: says he repented. Judas says he The picture says Judas
- 47:50Speaker 3: was remorseful. The word remorse, yes, has to do with
- 47:55Speaker 3: read again, but the morse actually has to with a
- 48:01Speaker 3: feeling of a bad, feeling of realize.
- 48:08Speaker 7: Man, I feel bad about what I did.
- 48:13Speaker 3: But the distinguishing thing between remorse and repent repent leads
- 48:18Speaker 3: to real change. Remorse doesn't lead to real change. Remorse
- 48:24Speaker 3: just leads to greater inner sorrow. I just feel so bad. Man,
- 48:30Speaker 3: I messed up. Man I got a call. Man, Well,
- 48:35Speaker 3: you know what am I going to do now? And
- 48:38Speaker 3: when you look at the life of Judas, because he
- 48:43Speaker 3: was remorseful or full of remorse and not repentant, he
- 48:47Speaker 3: didn't change the way he thought. He didn't seek to
- 48:51Speaker 3: change what he believed and how he spoke to what
- 48:53Speaker 3: he did. He didn't seek to return to Jesus. In fact,
- 48:58Speaker 3: he tried to return to the very people he betrayed
- 49:01Speaker 3: Jesus to. And when he said I'll betrayed in us
- 49:04Speaker 3: in blood, they said, what's that to us?
- 49:07Speaker 7: That's on you?
- 49:09Speaker 3: And at that point he took the thirty pieces of
- 49:11Speaker 3: silver that he had betrayed Jesus, and he threw him
- 49:14Speaker 3: into the temple.
- 49:15Speaker 11: And he went and he was remorseful. He felt bad
- 49:18Speaker 11: over and over again, and he hung himself and being
- 49:23Speaker 11: and in the process of hanging himself, we don't We
- 49:26Speaker 11: don't know exactly the scripture does us exactly how it
- 49:29Speaker 11: all happen, but he does say he went in hunt himself.
- 49:31Speaker 7: And another scripture says that in addition.
- 49:34Speaker 3: Of hanging himself, he fell. He fell from where he
- 49:37Speaker 3: hung himself, and he he and he fell on something
- 49:41Speaker 3: that was sharp, I believe it was stones, and it
- 49:46Speaker 3: punctured his abdomen area, and his intestines spilled out of
- 49:51Speaker 3: his body. Did he die being hung first or did
- 49:57Speaker 3: he die from his fault? We don't really know that.
- 50:00Speaker 3: But what we know that he did is that he
- 50:02Speaker 3: took his life. And because he was remorseful not repent him,
- 50:08Speaker 3: he didn't give himself a chance. And so in life
- 50:12Speaker 3: we have to be careful to never become remorseful about
- 50:17Speaker 3: our failures. But even when we fail, not is because
- 50:21Speaker 3: we all sin and fall short of the glory of God.
- 50:24Speaker 3: When we failed in the way that the sin is death,
- 50:27Speaker 3: but the gift of God is a general life of
- 50:29Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, our Lord. We got to remember with the scriptures,
- 50:32Speaker 3: if we confess our sins to the Lord, he's faithful
- 50:35Speaker 3: and just to forgive us of our sins and becomes
- 50:36Speaker 3: us of fallen righteousness.
- 50:37Speaker 7: We can come back to him.
- 50:39Speaker 3: This bath funding with fathers.
- 50:41Speaker 7: They and I got to preach about re encountering the
- 50:43Speaker 7: love of.
- 50:44Speaker 3: The Father, and we talked about the prodigal son. In
- 50:46Speaker 3: New chapter fifteen, the scripture says he came to himself
- 50:49Speaker 3: where he came to the sentences that the Greek.
- 50:52Speaker 7: Shows that he actually repented.
- 50:55Speaker 3: If the Greek word has been tonnel ato. He changed
- 50:57Speaker 3: the way he was thinking, so he could change the
- 50:59Speaker 3: way he was living. And what did he do, even
- 51:02Speaker 3: though to a certain extent, yes, he did feel sorry
- 51:05Speaker 3: for himself because he says, I'm better off as being
- 51:09Speaker 3: a hired hand in my dad's house. Let me just
- 51:11Speaker 3: go back and just work for my dad. When he
- 51:13Speaker 3: was on his way back, his dad was seeing him
- 51:15Speaker 3: from the distance. His dad ran to him. His dad
- 51:19Speaker 3: was full of compassion towards him. His dad threw his
- 51:22Speaker 3: arms around him, ugged him kissed him and then restored him,
- 51:26Speaker 3: and he helped his son understand the difference between repentance
- 51:31Speaker 3: and remorse. Remorse would have been him staying.
- 51:35Speaker 7: Out in the other far country.
- 51:37Speaker 3: And just saying, man, I just hit rock bottom. I'm done.
- 51:40Speaker 3: I don't no good. Let me just end my life.
- 51:42Speaker 3: But he didn't. He had a moment of repentance that
- 51:45Speaker 3: led to momentum that comes from repentance, and he began
- 51:49Speaker 3: to return for forgiveness and be restored and reconcild with.
- 51:55Speaker 7: His dad, and then eventually even reconciled with his older brother.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Who didn't like the idea of his little brother who
- 52:02Speaker 3: was a prodigal son coming.
- 52:03Speaker 7: Back and being restored and being celebrated.
- 52:05Speaker 3: So it's a beautiful when we really live a life
- 52:08Speaker 3: of repentance. God will not only reconcile with him. He
- 52:12Speaker 3: will not only reconcile us with him, He will reconcile
- 52:15Speaker 3: us with others. He did that with the prodigal son,
- 52:19Speaker 3: and he did that with Peter, because even Peter ends
- 52:22Speaker 3: up getting reconciled with the other disciples in John chapter
- 52:26Speaker 3: twenty one, and then in Acts chapter one.
- 52:28Speaker 7: They go to the upper room together with one hundred
- 52:31Speaker 7: and twenty and well you know the rest of the story.
- 52:34Speaker 3: There at the Church's birth in Acts chapter two, and
- 52:37Speaker 3: they reached three thousand, and from there they go to
- 52:39Speaker 3: five thousand, and from there they reached multiple thousands, to
- 52:42Speaker 3: the point where they were accused of having turned the
- 52:44Speaker 3: world upside down. That's the power of repentance and reconciliation.
- 52:49Speaker 3: And we need more of that today.
- 52:51Speaker 2: Uh yeah, no, I think about us like Jujas had
- 52:56Speaker 2: so many chances to turn back life. Even even even
- 53:01Speaker 2: when we're going to the priests like that, that there
- 53:04Speaker 2: was the chance to Okay, you stay that time, you say,
- 53:07Speaker 2: our time to fix this sitting down, sitting down, the
- 53:10Speaker 2: priests discussing the price. They got time, even even when
- 53:15Speaker 2: they even when they had the money bags, they got time.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Well you would you just touch that money? Okay, that's it.
- 53:23Speaker 7: Well, and if if you want to continue following that
- 53:26Speaker 7: train of thought.
- 53:27Speaker 3: He had time, He really had time to he breathed
- 53:30Speaker 3: his last breath because he could have repented. He could
- 53:36Speaker 3: have repented, but he didn't.
- 53:38Speaker 9: And and so may we look at the life of
- 53:41Speaker 9: Judas and learn from the life of Judas to know
- 53:44Speaker 9: that as long as we still got breath in our lungs,
- 53:47Speaker 9: and we have a mind uh in our in our
- 53:50Speaker 9: in our brain.
- 53:50Speaker 3: We have a mind in our body, and we have
- 53:53Speaker 3: breath in our tongue. And we have a heart that
- 53:56Speaker 3: is willing to be broken in contract.
- 53:58Speaker 7: Before the Lord.
- 53:58Speaker 3: We can confess our sense. We could be forgiven of
- 54:01Speaker 3: our sins and comes upon all unrighteousness, we can be restored.
- 54:06Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 54:09Speaker 8: I had.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Let's see, yeah, all right, this one right here.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Uh, these are mixed in so there's some song song
- 54:24Speaker 2: be heavy sony light so light hearted on me heavy.
- 54:27Speaker 1: So these are mixture of questions here.
- 54:29Speaker 3: Uh.
- 54:31Speaker 1: And and then I should have said, I should have
- 54:33Speaker 1: put him in order. When did you start your ministry?
- 54:40Speaker 3: Well, because the word ministry simply means to serve. When
- 54:44Speaker 3: I started serving in a local church, I was a teenager.
- 54:48Speaker 3: Oh yeah, probably fifteen or sixteen years of age, and
- 54:53Speaker 3: I started off helping out with the toddlers. Uh, you
- 54:56Speaker 3: know our church family that I was part of New
- 54:58Speaker 3: Life Ministries of San Antonio in San Antonio, Texas, that
- 55:02Speaker 3: was led by one of my great older cousins, Pastor
- 55:07Speaker 3: raign and his wife, Pastor Esther Malgunaldo. That was the
- 55:11Speaker 3: start they gave me the start. I'm thankful for that,
- 55:14Speaker 3: appreciative of that, and thank God for my family, the
- 55:18Speaker 3: Maldunado family, the Santana family, of the Data Suit's family,
- 55:22Speaker 3: so many of them have been in ministry or in
- 55:24Speaker 3: ministry and continue to be in ministry. And they provided
- 55:27Speaker 3: me with a great example.
- 55:28Speaker 7: Of what it is to serve.
- 55:29Speaker 3: Remember what Jesus said. He says, if you want to
- 55:32Speaker 3: be great in the kingdom, you got to be a servant, Tavall.
- 55:35Speaker 3: Remember what Jesus said, He did not come as one
- 55:39Speaker 3: to be served, but one to serve others. And so
- 55:43Speaker 3: that's where ministry begins. You know, some people might think, oh,
- 55:46Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say it was at
- 55:48Speaker 3: the age of twenty two when he became a full
- 55:50Speaker 3: time associated pastor. Well that's true too, that happened at
- 55:54Speaker 3: that age, in that time of my life. But you
- 55:56Speaker 3: have the ministry, ministry simply being serving. So it as
- 56:00Speaker 3: a teenager serving. And that's why we encourage people in
- 56:03Speaker 3: the Body of Christ, especially at Victory Hill. You're one
- 56:06Speaker 3: of our volunteers. Brotherly, you help out, you serve in
- 56:08Speaker 3: the media production team. We encourage everybody, Hey, don't just
- 56:14Speaker 3: don't just attend church services, get involved. Everybody can minister,
- 56:20Speaker 3: everybody can help, everybody can make a difference. Everybody can contribute.
- 56:25Speaker 7: But let me tell you, every local pastor's dream is
- 56:27Speaker 7: to have.
- 56:28Speaker 3: More people serving, more people helping the minister to the
- 56:30Speaker 3: people of God.
- 56:32Speaker 2: I remember years ago, two thousand and four, right I had.
- 56:39Speaker 2: I had my pastor at the time, Bad Ruth Louisiana
- 56:43Speaker 2: Johnny Young Junior. He uh him and some other men
- 56:47Speaker 2: of God cast cast the mind spirit out of me
- 56:50Speaker 2: and that that too hours. It was like this Saturday morning,
- 56:54Speaker 2: two hours from many God cast cast the spirit out
- 56:57Speaker 2: and I came off speaing the tongues everything, and so
- 57:00Speaker 2: like now like now I feeling with the spirit. The
- 57:05Speaker 2: bond spirit is gone, and like whenever everything calm down,
- 57:09Speaker 2: service is over. My pastor asked me you it's Saturdays.
- 57:14Speaker 2: He said, you you want to preach Sunday. I'm I'm
- 57:17Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like it was joking. I'm like,
- 57:20Speaker 2: I laughed, like He's like, no, I'm serious. You want
- 57:22Speaker 2: to preach tomorrow?
- 57:24Speaker 1: Now? Mind you. I'm like eleven ish eleven twelve ish
- 57:29Speaker 1: mm hmmm, and I'm like you for real, Yeah, you
- 57:33Speaker 1: wanna preach you mar okay, and I didn't.
- 57:37Speaker 2: I had no idea how I had to exag think,
- 57:39Speaker 2: called think, called exogen in the text I know.
- 57:43Speaker 3: Not.
- 57:44Speaker 1: I had no idea how to prepare a text, not
- 57:47Speaker 1: not how to prepare a sermon. I know idea.
- 57:49Speaker 2: I take the scirit shirt and break it down bit
- 57:52Speaker 2: by biting, line up on line, prece up, on prece up,
- 57:55Speaker 2: and so Sunday morning I get to it and I'm
- 58:00Speaker 2: that Thursday. Remember, Remember I was the trouble you're in
- 58:06Speaker 2: school every once in a while and raised the Holy
- 58:09Speaker 2: Spirit brings me back to to tom fellowship physically and verbally.
- 58:15Speaker 2: I had had my vice principal and uh, last time
- 58:20Speaker 2: I remember him saying, before we had the physical time
- 58:22Speaker 2: of fellowship, the ro corrections of to see how learning
- 58:26Speaker 2: if you will, He said, son.
- 58:29Speaker 1: You need you your house in order, and that that
- 58:32Speaker 1: was my message. I believe.
- 58:36Speaker 2: I preached from Revelation, I believe, and from there the
- 58:39Speaker 2: Holy Spirit just took over from the rest of it.
- 58:44Speaker 7: Wow.
- 58:46Speaker 1: Like up to that point, I'm sweating bullets.
- 58:50Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 58:50Speaker 1: I'm like, I grew up in church my whole life.
- 58:54Speaker 1: I grew up Baptist. I got I got preachers in
- 58:58Speaker 1: my family. I grew up back this. I I grew
- 59:04Speaker 1: up deep in the church. Why am I like.
- 59:11Speaker 2: I'm used to the I'm used. I'm used to church culture.
- 59:14Speaker 2: But never have I been like behind on the other
- 59:16Speaker 2: side of the pool pit. That's a different story. I
- 59:21Speaker 2: grew up, I grew up deep in the church. I
- 59:24Speaker 2: got family, I grew up in the church culture.
- 59:26Speaker 1: I got family. Family, that's preachers.
- 59:29Speaker 2: Oh we were on the other side of the pool.
- 59:31Speaker 2: But that's that's different when you you gotta speak to them.
- 59:37Speaker 2: And then I grabbed a microphone. Don't know what I'm
- 59:41Speaker 2: gonna do. I ain't got no notes. I just got
- 59:43Speaker 2: my Bible. Okay, so I'm gonna do So I just
- 59:47Speaker 2: felt this far. All that came on the Holy Spirit.
- 59:52Speaker 2: So some said something. I said, some, now, those Holy
- 59:57Speaker 2: Spirit go relation to twenty two. So I turned over
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: there read the are either a part of it or
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: the whole thing. And those we just took it from there.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: So in the ministry you have you have to follow
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: the other spirit, because without without you well high miss.
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: Yes, And I would say, in following the Holy Spirit,
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: remember that the Holy Spirit inspires the scripture. Oh, yeah,
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: all told Timothy that all scriptures God breefs, right.
- 1:00:38Speaker 7: And and uh or the writer of Hebrew actually says this.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: Particular verse all scriptures God breaths and.
- 1:00:45Speaker 7: Is useful for teaching, rebuking, for correcting, and training in righteousness,
- 1:00:51Speaker 7: so that every man of God.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: Is thoroughly equipped for every good work of the Lord.
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: And so but going back to the all scriptures God breathed,
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: theologians will say that means it's inspired.
- 1:01:03Speaker 7: By the Holy Spirit.
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: So in order to be best spirit led, we must
- 1:01:10Speaker 3: make sure we're investing time into His work. And so
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: it's not an either or, it must be a both.
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: And we need to be people of God's work from
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: Genesis to Revelation.
- 1:01:25Speaker 7: Of course, we're in the.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: New Covenant, so we're not legalistic, we're not living according
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: to the law. But we should be reading Old Testament
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: and New Testament together because we know pastor doctor John
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: Hagen has been quoted saying that the Old Testament is
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: God's will concealed, the New Testament is God's will reveal.
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: And so even when we read the Old Testament, we
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: can see that it's more than this history. Yes, there's
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: history there, there's also so much prophecy, especially Messianic prophecies,
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: and there are so many things that are pointing as
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: a shadow or as an indicator to what would come
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: in the New Testament. And then, of course we understand
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: that Jesus themselves said in Matthew five seventeen that I hated.
- 1:02:12Speaker 7: Jesus said, I did not come to a bolish a
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: law or the prophet.
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: I did not come to abolish, he says it twice,
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: but I came to fulfill. So Jesus is the fulfillment
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: of the Word of God, and so being led by
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit is central. And because Holy Spirit inspired
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: the scriptures, we must value the study of the Word
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: of God from Genesis to Revelations. And we must remember
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: that Holy Spirit was given to remind.
- 1:02:42Speaker 7: Us of the things that Jesus had said.
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: Holy Spirit is was given to us to be that
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: comfort or the counselor that leader that will help us
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: draw closer to Jesus and remind us of what Jesus
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: has said and who Jesus is. And the reason why
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: God the Father said Jesus was that through Jesus we
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: would all be reconciled to the Father. So I like
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: to tell people yes, we must be spirit led, and
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: we also must be fully Bible based. And if we're
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: Bible based and we're spirit led, then we truly become
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Jesus Christ centered. We have to preach the gospel of
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: Jesus and his Kingdom to all people, because the Coulture
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: tells us that it's all about Jesus and his kingdom.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: And when this gospiel of Jesus, that of the Kingdom,
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: is preached to all the earth, to all the nations,
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: then there come we're living in these.
- 1:03:37Speaker 7: Very troubled times. We consider not just our own nation or.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: The Western hemisphere, and we consider especially now Israel and Iran.
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: And we continued to happen between Russia and Ukraine, and
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: also it continues to happen between China and North Caro
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: Korea and Taiwan. And these are the signs of the times, rumors.
- 1:04:03Speaker 7: Of wars, animals, and we need to focus on Jesus
- 1:04:06Speaker 7: and point people to Jesus and preach the gospel of Jesus.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, it's a good one.
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: Right here.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: It's a good one right here. That's okay, here, it
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: is all right. Have you ever had writer's block in
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: either your writing or your music.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely more more more times than I care to admit.
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: And so what I have, what I have experienced, is
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: that the opposite of that writer's block is really God
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: inspiration and and and so I do my best, whether
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: I'm writing literature or whether I'm writing music.
- 1:04:54Speaker 12: Two, to truly seek the Lord, to be in the word,
- 1:05:00Speaker 12: to be in prayer, to be in worship, to just
- 1:05:05Speaker 12: grow in and intimacy with Jesus.
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: And I find that the more I do that, uh,
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: the more I get the opposite of writer's block, the
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: more I get God inspiration for whether I'm writing or
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: whether I'm writing literature or writing music.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: That's cool, Uh, this one right here. See I told
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: you it's the mixture of the mixture of lighthearted and deep.
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: So I said, I should the order that's out. Have
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: you ever been frustrated with either with either spouse, children,
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: fellow ministers, or regard himself?
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: Absolutely, I've been frustrated with myself. You know, the word
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: for frustrate, by definition, means to prevent from progressing, succeeding,
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: or being fulfilled. So and when you talk about prevent
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: is to prevent a plan or an attempted action. So
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: have I rather felt like one of my plans didn't
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: get fulfilled, and I felt like that happened because of
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: my own self. Yeah, I've gone in my own way,
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: have rather felt like my wife maybe wasn't on the
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: same page.
- 1:06:18Speaker 7: With something I wanted. Yeah, she's human, I'm human. That happens.
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: What about our kids? Absolutely? What about other brothers and
- 1:06:26Speaker 3: sisters in Christ? Absolutely? What about fellow ministers? Yeah?
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: And then what about God?
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: The answer is yes, But I don't blame God. I
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: blame myself. The fact of the matter, as a scripture says,
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: many are the plans of a man's heart, but it
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: is the Lord's purpose that prevails. That's in the book
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: of Proverbs. I believe it may be Proverbs nineteen or
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: Proverbs twenty one. And so, Yeah, frustration is a reality
- 1:06:53Speaker 3: for us. Is because we're imperfect humans living in an
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: imperfect world. We come up with these plans or these
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: ideas of things that we want to see happen, and
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: they don't always happen. And many times they don't happen
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: because we mess ourselves up, or they don't happen because
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: maybe our spouse see things differently, or our kids see differently,
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: or brothers instances in Christ see things differently, and again
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: God can certainly see things differently, and I don't mind
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: it up with the scripture says in Isaiah fifty five,
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: these ways are higher than our ways. His thoughts are
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: higher than our thoughts, as high as the heavens are
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: above the earth, or his ways from our ways. And
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: so in the context of that is actually talking about
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: God's mercy. Just when we're ready to judge something, just
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: when we're ready to condemn something, God is saying, I'm
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: more loving than you know. I'm more merciful and gracious
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: than you know. His ways are higher than our ways.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: So frustration is the reality of our humanity. That's why
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: it's so important all the more for us to compete,
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: to draw closer to the Lord right, draw closer to
- 1:07:55Speaker 3: our wives, to our spouse, us to our kids, fellow menaces.
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: And even when we don't see I have the have
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: the conversation, and and and perhaps in that conversation we
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: can find a solution that is acceptable to both sides
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: and work together to get something done.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: It sir, by the way, for those for those tuning me,
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: the first thing you wonder wasn't what wasn't the world's
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: a passage on the on the rest of the show, Well,
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: I'll tell you a good friend of mine and don't
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: get it twisted.
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: I believe me. I tried is he is definitely now
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: on our side. But he's a good friend of mine side.
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: Everybody to come on in.
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: Thank you for the grades, for the lead.
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: But by the way, apparently dealing especially specially like you
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: have older, older children now as as a getting older,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: that's always gonna be as a blessing and the frustration
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: at the same time, because like.
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: I can't speak on the parents' side, I'm gonna say.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: As a son, as a son, h for example, I
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: love my mother, I love my mother, DearS love her dearly.
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: Every once in a while it's like pulling, pulling teeth
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: and eyeballs, because like.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: Towards you like.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Dearly, but everyone in a while she feels like it's
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: pulling teeth.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: It's like when you grow up, it's like Mammy, this
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: may dad, Mama, this may dad, all the time and
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: everywhere everywhere she turns you right there. Now, as you
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: get older, especially if your adult years, you have different opinions.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: You have you have all of a sudden, this little
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: this little boy, this little boy, a little girl.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: Growing up, they all of a sudden they get older
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: and they have their own opinion growing up, they have
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: their on weasly growing.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Up, they all of a sudden they have what's called uh.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: They don't necessarily they don't necessarily agree with like how
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: they used to and they were a child. Sometimes like
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: sometimes we see on the same page, sometimes.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: Not so much.
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: For example, perfect perfect example, like I'm in my room chilling,
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: been in my room all day, chilling.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: I'm cool, and my mom come in. Look at this shroom.
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: Just look at this shrump? How how how you be
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: here beyond me?
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: I'm like now, from my from my point, he is
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: perfectly fine. But to a parent, yeah, like it's like
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: tornado here the wrong correct.
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: And that's where it's important to find a common ground
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: and find in a good way a compromise. And you
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: know that's that applies not only to parents and children,
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: that applies to adults with adults. That applies to family members, friends,
- 1:11:23Speaker 3: co workers, federal church members, fellow ministers. We got to
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: find a way to work together.
- 1:11:30Speaker 7: We don't all maybe think the same exact way.
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: We probably don't all prefer things a certain way, the
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: way everybody else does. So we got to find a
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: way to agree, focus on what we agree on. Don't
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: let the stuff that we don't see out of ion
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: become the thing that divides us. We can agree to
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: disagree and then just focus on what we agree on
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: and celebrate that as much as possible, while we continue
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: to pray for you other, love on each other, share
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: truth in love with each other, and hope that we
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: can find a common middle ground for those areas where
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: we do need to get closer to a middle ground
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: with each other.
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: This last question for you right here, if and when
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: you ever consider like far as like the lad of
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: use in your life, winding down, retirement, stuff like that,
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: what you consider a pet.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: So if you have decide today, I will say thank you,
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: but no thank you. I'm gonna I'm gonna prefer to
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: use my time in my latter years to invest it
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: more with the Lord, with my wife, with my with
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: my kids, with my friends, with the people that I
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: care about. Don't know, no disintended on pets. I've got
- 1:12:53Speaker 3: family members that love pets, and I know some people
- 1:12:56Speaker 3: believe their pets when they die, they go to heaven.
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: I haven't found that yet, but hopefully it's true for
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: them since they love their pets so much. But my
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: answer would be thank you, but no thank you. I
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: just want to focus on my time with the Lord,
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: with my wife, with my kids, with my friends and.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: My loved ones. Well, the lower is to being no one.
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: Yeah, brother Lee, thank you so much for having me
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: on your program today.
- 1:13:25Speaker 7: I greatly appreciate you.
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: We're blessed to have you in our church family. We're
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: blessed to have you on our volunteer team with the
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: media production team. My brother Jackson, my son in law Leeds,
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: and just thankful for your brother, my friend, and thank
- 1:13:39Speaker 3: you for the program. Thank you for the opportunity to
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: be on your program. I have to slip off at
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: this point, getting ready for a few of us things
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: I got to take care of today.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Well, thank you, best see you all right.
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: We'll see you on Sunday, And everybody who's listening, if
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: you're in the Dallas Fort Worth area, you're welcome to
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: join us at Victory Hill Church. It's Sunday at ten
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: thirty am and our address is eight hundred South Hampton Road.
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: It's near the corner of Southampton and Parkerville Road, just
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: a couple of miles away from I thirty five in Parkerville.
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: Alright, I'll see you Sunday.
- 1:14:18Speaker 3: All right, thank you so much, God pleasure my brother
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: and friend.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: Listen to thank you very much everybody for joining us tonight.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: This afternoon.
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- 1:14:41Speaker 1: I've avery weekend. Everybody will see us soon. Act actor,