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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04When it comes to Bill Clinton and his relationship with
- 0:07Jeffrey Epstein, for me, the biggest problem is how untruthful
- 0:11Bill Clinton has been about that relationship. These guys were
- 0:16obviously relatively close. And while I have never once said
- 0:21that I think that Bill Clinton was abusing girls with
- 0:23Jeffrey Epstein, there is no doubt that Bill Clinton acted
- 0:28as a vehicle for Jeffrey Epstein to help rebuild his image,
- 0:32and not only that, but to open some doors that
- 0:35would have never been available to him unless he was
- 0:37with Bill Clinton. So when we talk about being an enabler,
- 0:42when we talk about somebody who has helped Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:45along the way, there is no doubt that Bill Clinton
- 0:48is in that conversation, and he's right at the top
- 0:51of the list. And in this episode, we're going to
- 0:53talk a little bit more about that relationship and the
- 0:55receipts that go along with it. Today's article is from
- 0:59the Email and the headline Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton's
- 1:03Curious friendship. Late pedophile hung portrait of cross dressing Bill
- 1:08in his eighty eight million dollar Manhattan Lair made seventeen
- 1:11visits to the White House and flew President twenty six
- 1:14times on his private jet. So does anybody want to
- 1:18discuss any of that? I mean kind of important, right,
- 1:21Why in the hell would Jeffrey Epstein be going to
- 1:24the White House? And if you have a legitimate reason,
- 1:27let's hear it. My biggest problem, like I just said,
- 1:30is that Bill Clinton has not answered any real questions.
- 1:34And don't refer me to that dumbass statement from twenty nineteen.
- 1:38Talk about archaic it might as well be the dead
- 1:40Sea scrolls at this point. And with all of the
- 1:43developments since the time that that statement was put out,
- 1:45don't you think that it would be the proper move
- 1:48to go back, look at that statement, readjust it, and
- 1:52maybe release a new one. But unfortunately, the legacy media
- 1:55will never force Bill Clinton's hand. And just like they
- 1:58needed a little help to their buddy Jeffrey Epstein, they're
- 2:01gonna need a little help along the way here to
- 2:03out there buddy Bill Clinton. So why don't we help
- 2:06them along their way and give them that little bit
- 2:09of a push. This article was authored by Ben Ashford,
- 2:14Jeffrey Epstein's influential friends and the lad acquaintances are being
- 2:18unmasked for the first time in newly unsealed court filings.
- 2:22But one name stands out among the glittering array of politicians,
- 2:26Hollywood stars and royalty. That of William Jefferson Clinton, the
- 2:31forty second President of the United States. And remember, it's
- 2:34not just because of a comment Bill Clinton made talking about,
- 2:37oh yeah, Jeff's a great guy, not just any comments,
- 2:40not just some innuendo. Because they were in a picture together.
- 2:44These guys were obviously pretty tight. And the question is
- 2:48how come they were tight, What were they doing, what
- 2:51was their business associations, and also what about the financials.
- 2:55How much money did Jeffrey Epstein pony over to Bill
- 2:58Clinton and his foundations? That's a pretty interesting question. No.
- 3:03Clinton has been linked to the late child sex predator
- 3:05for decades and features more than seventy times in documents
- 3:09finally made public this week by Judge Loretta Presca. The
- 3:13seventy seven year old Democrat claims the pair were barely buddies,
- 3:17denies knowledge of Epstein's sex trafficking network, and insists he
- 3:21never set foot on Little Saint James, nicknamed Peto Island,
- 3:25and the setting for multiple bouts of sexual abuse. However,
- 3:29as daily mail dot Com documents, their relationship stretches back
- 3:33to Clinton's days in the White House, and the two
- 3:36men were once close enough for the former leader of
- 3:38the Free World to accept repeated trips to Epstein's private jet.
- 3:43Newly redacted files included in the release of documents this
- 3:47week have also unveiled the extraordinary claim that the President
- 3:51once even went as far as to threaten a magazine
- 3:54not to write sex trafficking articles about his good friend. Now,
- 3:58I don't know how much I believe that it's possible, right,
- 4:01very possible, But we definitely know that Jeffrey Epstein he
- 4:05threatened Vanity Fair. He called over there and told them
- 4:08the deal, and after Epstein flexed on him, Graydon Carter
- 4:11decided not to run the piece. New docs, new questions.
- 4:16The specter of Jeffrey Epstein returned to haunt the Clinton's
- 4:19this week, when Bill's name appeared more than seventy times
- 4:23on newly unsealed court papers. The former president was among
- 4:27dozens of Epstein's associates unmasked in a vast document drop
- 4:31from the twenty fifteen Glenn Maxwell Virginia Roberts defamation case.
- 4:36According to Roberts lawyers, Bubba was a key person in
- 4:39the lives of the dead financier and his former lover,
- 4:42and the trio enjoyed a close relationship. I don't know
- 4:45how anyone can doubt this or deny it. We all
- 4:48know how tight they were. What you just get invited
- 4:51to somebody's wedding, their daughter's wedding if you're not tight.
- 4:54Somebody just has a picture of you on the wall
- 4:56wearing a blue dress if you're not tight. So all
- 4:59this bs about Bill Clinton not really knowing Epstein, not
- 5:02being close to him, not hanging out with him, having
- 5:06no idea about anything. None of that tracks. And even
- 5:09in the undeniable face of proof about the relationship between
- 5:12Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, the legacy media they just
- 5:16have no desire to report the facts. Instead, they just
- 5:19keep whitewashing things and making up excuses, Oh well, Bill
- 5:23Clinton wasn't involved in the abuse, as if there aren't
- 5:26levels to this shit, As if Bill Clinton's involvement wasn't
- 5:29a huge boon for Jeffrey Epstein's abuse. It most certainly was.
- 5:33And that's not me telling you that that's all the survivors,
- 5:36and that's everybody who was involved. So at what point
- 5:39does Bill Clinton get abandoned by the Democratic establishment and
- 5:44when is he forced to answer some questions. Roberts attorneys
- 5:48even sought to depose him in one especially incendiary filing.
- 5:52In a twenty sixteen deposition from another Epstein victim, Johanna Schoberg,
- 5:57she recalls the dead predator, telling her Clinton likes them young,
- 6:01referring to girls. Well, that's not a shock considering what
- 6:04happened with Monica Lewinsky. We all know that he likes
- 6:06him young. As far as abusing girls with Epstein, though
- 6:09so far I have not seen any proof of that.
- 6:12Ask what she knew about Epstein's friendship with Clinton, Schoberg said,
- 6:16I knew he had dealings with Bill Clinton. However, she
- 6:19never met Clinton and never saw him on Little Saint James.
- 6:23Her testimony added in other documents, Roberts makes the colorful
- 6:27claim that Clinton wants intervened to stop a magazine expose
- 6:32about Epstein. Maxwell's lawyers asked Roberts about a twenty eleven
- 6:37email exchange she had with a reporter friend in which
- 6:40they discuss the merits of selling her now infamous photo
- 6:43with Prince Andrew to Vanity Fair. As they spar over
- 6:47her recollection of the messages, Roberts replies, it does concern
- 6:51me that they could want to write about me, considering
- 6:53that be Clinton walked into VF and threatened them not
- 6:57to write sex trafficking articles about his good friend Jaye.
- 7:01Since the papers were released, former Vanity Fair editor Graydon
- 7:04Carter has said the incident categorically did not happen. In
- 7:08her own deposition, Maxwell fifty said the claim that Clinton
- 7:12had a meal on Epstein's island was one hundred percent false.
- 7:15Clinton denies any wrongdoing. Well, considering Glenn Maxwell is a
- 7:21known human trafficker and has been indicted for perjury, I
- 7:25wouldn't exactly call her a reliable narrator. Clinton in the frame.
- 7:30They say that a picture speaks one thousand words, but
- 7:33anyone who stumbled across Jeffrey Epstein's peculiar life size portrait
- 7:38of a cross dressing Bill Clinton would be more likely
- 7:40to be left speechless. The bizarro artwork depicted the former
- 7:44commander in chief lounging on a chair in the Oval
- 7:47office in blood red heels and a figure hugging blue dress.
- 7:51Now ask yourselves, why in the fuck would he have
- 7:54this picture on the wall. What is he looking to prove?
- 7:57Who is he looking to impress? And why is Bill
- 8:00Bill Clinton in a dress and some heels being put
- 8:03up there and showcased. You would think that Bill Clinton
- 8:07wouldn't be happy with that, right, Hey, Jeffrey, get that
- 8:09shit off your wall? Or is it that Jeffrey and
- 8:12him are so close it didn't matter. Oh that's just Jeffrey.
- 8:16Oh shucks, he's my pal. I mean, for real, look
- 8:19at all the craziness about alex Acosta. Imagine if alex
- 8:23Acosta had his picture hanging on the wall at Jeffrey
- 8:25Epstein's forget it. Imagine if Trump did. Imagine if anybody did.
- 8:29But since it's Bill Clinton, it's just a coincidence. It's
- 8:32no big deal. It's just art. His kookie outfit was
- 8:36strikingly similar to the one worn by Hillary out of
- 8:39two thousand and nine Galla dinner for Kennedy Center hon Rees.
- 8:43The painting was called Parsing Bill and was created in
- 8:47twenty twelve by fledgling Australian American artist Patrina Ryan Clyde.
- 8:52It's not clear whether Epstein on the original or a print,
- 8:56but it was spotted hanging up inside the Pedophiles fifty
- 8:59six million New York townhouse in October of that year.
- 9:03It was absolutely Bill Clinton. It was shocking. It was
- 9:06definitely a painting of him, a source reveal to Daily
- 9:09mail dot com when we revealed the portrait's existence in
- 9:12twenty nineteen. It was very provocative, a sexual picture. He
- 9:17was wearing heels, a blue dress and his hand was
- 9:20in a weird position. Quite why Epstein, who hanged himself
- 9:23in prison in August of twenty nineteen, allegedly would have
- 9:27such a lurid likeness of the former president in his
- 9:30home has been open to much speculation, and again, if
- 9:34Bill Clinton wants to end the speculation, it's pretty simple.
- 9:37Come out and give a real answer about what happened here.
- 9:41Don't give us a stupid ass canned statement from your associate.
- 9:45You come out and you tell us what the fuck's
- 9:47going on here and why he has this picture of you.
- 9:52Imagine if I knew some horrible dark secrets about you,
- 9:55and you came over to my house and I have
- 9:56a giant painting of you. Joe Rogan joked about on
- 9:59his podcast, asked, right, when you walk into the front
- 10:01door of you in address, and I'm like, hey, buddy,
- 10:06I mean that pretty much sums it up right. There's
- 10:08no reason in the whole world for that to even occur.
- 10:11I have a lot of really good friends, and I
- 10:13don't have any pictures of them in dresses, and I
- 10:16certainly don't have him hanging on my wall. So what
- 10:18the fuck is the deal here? And why was this
- 10:20picture of Bill Clinton prominently hung on the wall? Epstein
- 10:25went from university dropout to mercurial money manager, acquiring all
- 10:29the trapings of a billionaire playboy, from majestic homes in
- 10:33New York, New Mexico, and Palm Beach, Florida, to his
- 10:36own Caribbean island. Along the way, the now notorious pedophile
- 10:40acquired scores of influential friends, many of whom were listed
- 10:44in his little Black Book of Contacts, where he noted
- 10:47down twenty numbers and addresses for Clinton, and despite repeatedly
- 10:52distancing himself from the child predator and his crimes, Clinton
- 10:56was close enough to accept dozens of flights on Epstein's
- 10:58private jet, notorious nicknamed the Lolita Express, and We also
- 11:03heard back in the day that Bill Clinton had a
- 11:05special seat on this plane. So let's not act like
- 11:08Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein didn't have a very, very
- 11:12tight relationship. They most certainly did. What you should really
- 11:15ask yourself is why these activists journalists have refused to
- 11:18give you the real deal. Flight log show that Clinton
- 11:22flew on the Boeing seven twenty seven tri jet on
- 11:26twenty six occasions, traveling to an array of exotic locations
- 11:30including Brunei, Norway, Russia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, the Azores, Africa, Belgium, China,
- 11:36and New York. Five trips on the plane. Huh is
- 11:40anybody else disgusted that Bill Clinton hasn't been called onto
- 11:44the carpet? I mean for real, and again, look, just
- 11:47to be clear, I'm not alleging that he took part
- 11:49in the abuse. What I'm saying is why won't he
- 11:52give any answers about what went down, what did he see,
- 11:55who was there, who was he paling around with, what
- 11:57was he doing with? Epstein? Answered any of these questions?
- 12:01And I don't want to hear shit about that stupid
- 12:03statement from twenty nineteen. You better come out with something new.
- 12:08Dailymail dot Com published never before seen images of the
- 12:11forty second president of the United States receiving a neck
- 12:15and shoulder massage from Epstein victim Shante Davies during a
- 12:19stopover in two thousand and two. So this man was
- 12:22getting a massage from somebody who was being actively trafficked
- 12:26at the time, and I'm the asshole because I want
- 12:28to bring it up and talk about that. I'm the
- 12:30asshole because I want Bill Clinton called out on the carpet.
- 12:34Here's an idea. Quit playing dumbass politics and hold everybody
- 12:38who was involved to account. Hold everybody to the same standard,
- 12:42and nobody, not even your fave billy boy Clinton, should
- 12:46have a different standard to which he is held. Davies,
- 12:50then a twenty two year old massage therapist who claims
- 12:53she was recruited into Epstein's circle by Glenn Maxwell before
- 12:57being raped and abused, insisted that Clinton was charming and
- 13:00sweet on the humanitarian trip to Africa that also included
- 13:04Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. Although the image looks bizarre,
- 13:09President Clinton was a perfect gentleman during the trip and
- 13:12I saw absolutely no foul play involving him. She recalled,
- 13:16and this is what I based my comments on. Bill
- 13:18Clinton was never accused of any sort of foul play
- 13:22when it comes to hurting these girls or abusing these
- 13:26girls that were under Epstein's influence. Instead, for Bill Clinton,
- 13:31it's a different level the enabling and the doors that
- 13:35he was opening up while he was hanging around with
- 13:37this dude, and Bill Clinton has to answer for it.
- 13:41Clinton's camp insists he took a total of four trips
- 13:43from two thousand and two to two thousand and three
- 13:46on Epstein's aircraft, which last flew in twenty sixteen and
- 13:51is slowly corroding at an airfield in Brunswick, Georgia. West
- 13:54Wing regular Bill Clinton owned up to six meetings with
- 13:58Epstein dating back to two These include the four flights
- 14:02on Epstein's plane, a visit to his Harlem office, and
- 14:05a brief appearance at the pedophile's New York home. So
- 14:08this is what he owned up to, and we know
- 14:10it's a lot more so, if you owned up to
- 14:13only a few of the trips, what are you trying
- 14:14to hide? And really that's the whole entire crux of
- 14:17my argument. What the hell is Bill Clinton trying to hide?
- 14:20And why is he trying to hide it? However, as
- 14:23Deli Mel previously revealed, Epstein enjoyed extraordinary access to the
- 14:27White House throughout the Clinton administration nearly a decade earlier.
- 14:31The deep pocketed predator stopped by the West Wing just
- 14:35a month after Clinton's inauguration in January nineteen ninety three,
- 14:39the first of seventeen visits in three years. During his visits,
- 14:43he took eight different women with them. The logs identify
- 14:46them as Maxwell, who at the time was thirty two,
- 14:49and three other girlfriends, Selinda Middlefart then twenty one, Eva
- 14:54Anderson Dubin thirty three, and Francis Jardine, who was believed
- 14:58to be in her twenties. The four other women who
- 15:01also appear in the logs are named Jennifer Garrison, Shelley Gaffney,
- 15:05Jennifer Driver, and Lubiyov or LoVa. Visitor logs confirmed he
- 15:11was signed in by a person named Rubin, a possible
- 15:14reference to Robert Rubin, who became Director of the National
- 15:18Economic Council when Clinton took office and Treasury Secretary in
- 15:22nineteen ninety five. Ah, no big deal here, no ties
- 15:25at all. This was just a chance meeting nothing more
- 15:29than strangers passing in the night. Just ask Bill Clinton,
- 15:32That's what I'll tell you. Epstein returned on September twenty
- 15:36ninth to attend a reception organized by the White House
- 15:39Historical Association after he donated ten thousand dollars to help
- 15:43renovate the building. It was one of the earliest instances
- 15:47of Epstein using philanthropy to gain access to powerful men,
- 15:51a tactic he would deploy extensively to negate his two
- 15:54thousand and eight conviction in Florida for having sex with
- 15:57underage girls. Photos from the Bancho Epstein and Clinton shaking hands,
- 16:02with both men smiling broadly. The bulk of Epstein's visits
- 16:06came in nineteen ninety four, when he visited on a
- 16:08dozen occasions, meeting a variety of aids, including Mark Middleton,
- 16:13who was a special assistant to the President and also
- 16:16flew on the Lolita Express. According to flight logs, Epstein
- 16:20visited Clinton just once in nineteen ninety five, on January
- 16:23twenty eighth, and he was again signed in by Middleton
- 16:27aids Gruesome suicide. Middleton's curious cameo dozen end there, Copsey
- 16:33took his own life in twenty twenty two, but the
- 16:36gory suicide raised more questions than answers. The married father
- 16:40of two, who worked for his family's HVAC business after
- 16:44leaving politics, was found hanging from a tree on farmland
- 16:47in Perryville, Arkansas. I could see that he had a
- 16:50gunshot wound to the chest, and that he had a
- 16:52knot tied to an extension cord that was around his neck,
- 16:56and it was attached to the limb directly above him,
- 16:59noted a deputy. A search of Middleton's BMW turned up
- 17:02three boxes of buckshot and a gun case, but no weapon.
- 17:06The fifty nine year old's death was nonetheless recorded as
- 17:09the suicide. In nineteen ninety six, one year after leaving
- 17:13the White House, Middleton was accused of abusing his access
- 17:16to impress business clients and was barred from the Executive
- 17:19Mansion without senior approval. More like, he took the fall.
- 17:24While we need a fall guy, who's it going to be?
- 17:26All right, It's going to be Doug Middleton, because we
- 17:29all know that the Clintons had fall guys and fall
- 17:32gals all around them. According to the Arkansas Times, Middleton's
- 17:36family said he was suffering from depression when he died.
- 17:39A number of Clinton's former associates have perished over the
- 17:42years in unexpected circumstances, including Deputy White House Counsel Vince
- 17:47Foster in nineteen ninety three. His death from a self
- 17:51inflicted gunshot was ruled a suicide, but sparked a slew
- 17:55of conspiracy theories about the involvement of the Clintons. And
- 17:59to be clear, from all the evidence that I've seen,
- 18:01Doug Middleton killed himself. Now, is there something else amiss?
- 18:05Are they hiding information? I don't know, but from the
- 18:07official reports and what we've seen, I would say that
- 18:10Doug Middleton was suffering from a bit of anxiety, depression, whatever,
- 18:15and decided that enough was enough. But how many people
- 18:19connected to the Clintons have ended up going this route?
- 18:22Warren to stay away. Doug Band, Clinton's one time chief advisor,
- 18:27poured fuel on the Epstein bubba fire when he came
- 18:30forward in twenty twenty to say that the ex president
- 18:32did indeed visit Little Saint James. Band said he repeatedly
- 18:37warned his boss to steer clear of Epstein and his
- 18:39warp Madam Glenn Maxwell, who was particularly close with Chelsea
- 18:43Clinton and attended her twenty ten wedding. I mean, you're
- 18:47not getting invited to the wedding if you're not somebody
- 18:50who's close to the family. We're not talking about a
- 18:52shotgun wedding here at the Little White Chapel. We're talking
- 18:56about Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and their daughter Chelsea getting mad.
- 19:00So you know it's going to be a whole ass affair,
- 19:02a whole ass ordeal, and someone like Lane Maxwell getting
- 19:05invited to that wedding. Yikes. Really nobody wants to explain
- 19:09that either. Huh, I know, I know, let's talk about
- 19:12alex Acosta. Glen had access to yachts and nice homes,
- 19:16he told a Vanity Fair Chelsea needed that. Band insisted
- 19:19that Clinton had visited Epstein's Caribbean retreat in two thousand
- 19:23and three, despite Clinton's camps repeated claims to the contrary,
- 19:27and remember, Doug Band was the keyholder. Doug Band was
- 19:30Bill Clinton's number one guy. He told the magazine that
- 19:34he was so wary about the invite that he excused
- 19:37himself from the trip. A Clinton spokesman dismissed the allegation
- 19:41and characterized Band as a bitter X staffer seeking to
- 19:44profit on his former connections. Oh yeah, sure. Look, the
- 19:49truth is the truth, and there's no doubt that the
- 19:52Clinton's and Jeffrey Epstein had a lot tighter of a
- 19:55relationship than they're letting us know. Ban was just twenty
- 20:00two and doing a law degree at Georgetown University when
- 20:03he landed an unpaid internship in the White House midway
- 20:07through Clinton's first term. When Clinton left office in two
- 20:11thousand and one, Band went with them and helped to
- 20:14resurrect the Clinton brand that was tarnished by the controversial
- 20:17pardons and the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal. Band became semi
- 20:21famous in the process, enjoying a brief romance with Naomi
- 20:25Campbell before falling out with Chelsea in twenty eleven. A
- 20:30newly unsealed deposition suggests he may be especially close to Maxwell,
- 20:34who is serving twenty years for grooming young girls. To
- 20:36Epstein asked if they were ever in a romantic relationship,
- 20:40the disgrace socialite, you mean newman trafficker, told Epstein's survivor,
- 20:44Virginia Roberts lawyers, we are talking about adult consensual relationships.
- 20:49It's off the record. And I've talked about the possibility
- 20:53that Bill Clinton and Glenne Maxwell were involved romantically before
- 20:57and where did I get that information? Well, it's out there.
- 21:00It's a Daily Beast article if you were wondering, And
- 21:02I wouldn't think that the Daily Beast would be called,
- 21:05you know, a right wing outlet. So the Daily Beast
- 21:08has been all over the Bill Clinton stuff, and you
- 21:11have to give them a tip of the cap. They're
- 21:14going against the grain and they're trying to provide some
- 21:17information about Bill Clinton and the role that he played
- 21:20with Jeffrey Epstein and Glain Maxwell. And there has been
- 21:23some rumor, some innuendo that Bill Clinton and Glen Maxwell
- 21:28might have been involved romantically. I can't prove that, but
- 21:31the receipts are there, and you can find those receipts
- 21:34in that Daily Beast article. And while I can't prove
- 21:37it one way or the other, it certainly seems like
- 21:39attracks to me. We all know that Glean Maxwell's a skafuzza,
- 21:42and we all know that Bill Clinton, well, that dude
- 21:45will fuck anything, including a catcher's mitt. So does it
- 21:49not track with you? Certainly tracks with me. One thing
- 21:52that I don't think can be disputed is the fact
- 21:54that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were super tight, at
- 21:58least for a period of time. And now that that's
- 22:00all being revealed for the masses to see, will somebody
- 22:04start asking Bill Clinton the hard questions for some reason?
- 22:08I have my doubts. All right, folks, that's gonna do
- 22:11it for this one. All of the information that goes
- 22:13with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 22:17What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 22:22As the lawsuit between the US Virgin Islands and JP
- 22:25Morgan continues to make its way through court, we're finding
- 22:29out a lot more about the emails and the scheduling
- 22:33that was going on within Jeffrey Epstein's universe. Well, one
- 22:38of the people that was a bit chummier with Epstein
- 22:41than he has let on is Michael wolf And Michael
- 22:45wolf is an author who thought it would be a
- 22:47good idea to continue to palle around with Epstein after
- 22:51Epstein's conviction. So who is Michael wolf Well, let's talk
- 22:56about him real quick. Michael Wolfe is an American journalist
- 22:59as well as a columnist and contributor at USA Today,
- 23:04The Hollywood Reporter and the UK edition of GQ. He
- 23:08has received two National Magazine Awards, a Mira Award, and
- 23:12has authored seven books, including burn Rate, about his own
- 23:16dot com company, and The Man who Owns the News,
- 23:19a biography of Rupert Murdoch. He co founded the news
- 23:22aggregation website newser and is a former editor of Adweek.
- 23:27On January fifth, twenty eighteen, Wolfe's book Fire and Fury
- 23:31Inside the Trump White House was published, containing unflattering descriptions
- 23:36of behavior by US President Donald Trump, chaotic interactions among
- 23:41the White House senior staff, and derogatory comments about the
- 23:45Trump family by former White House chief strategist Steve Pannin.
- 23:49The book quickly became a New York Times Number one
- 23:52bestseller and became the first of a trilogy about Trump
- 23:56and power, the other two books being Siege and Landslide.
- 24:00There was like a whole ass industry that popped up
- 24:03around Trump, all of these jerkofs who wrote all of
- 24:06these stupid books, and all they're doing is rehashing the
- 24:09same stuff that the other knuckleheads said before them. Here's
- 24:13an idea. If you're going to have some kind of
- 24:16investigative piece, it's a good idea to give us some
- 24:20new news and not just rehash the bs that you've
- 24:23been talking about or other people have been talking about
- 24:26ad nauseum that goes nowhere. And that's what all of
- 24:29these books pretty much were. Did any of them offer
- 24:33up anything worthwhile? Of course they didn't. It was the
- 24:36shiny object in the room, though, and people knew, grifters
- 24:40knew that there was a whole ass cottage industry popping
- 24:43up around this. So all of these people were like,
- 24:45you know what, I'm gonna write a book. I have
- 24:47an inside source. Meanwhile, they're all just telling the same
- 24:50ass story, just repackaged. So today we have an article
- 24:53from The Daily Beast talking a little bit more about
- 24:56Michael wolf and how he conveniently omitted his his own
- 25:00relationship with Jeffrey Epstein from that part of his book headline,
- 25:05Michael Wolfe is all over Jeffrey Epstein's date book. This
- 25:10article was authored by Lachlan Cartwright. Gossipy provocateur and author
- 25:15Michael Wolfe has long been accused of being too chummy
- 25:18with his highest profile subjects, which at one point included
- 25:23Jeffrey Epstein. New documents obtained and reviewed by Confider reveal
- 25:27the extent to which the pair spent time together even
- 25:31after Epstein was found guilty of sexually abusing a fourteen
- 25:35year old girl. Now, how can you ever justify hanging
- 25:39out with somebody who is a convicted sex offender? Like
- 25:42maybe if it's your family member and you guys are
- 25:45out like a barbecue or something. All right, look, Uncle
- 25:48Jed's coming over, the fucking diddler. But all of these people,
- 25:51they willingly were hanging out with Epstein because let's be
- 25:54very clear, they were all looking to benefit in some
- 25:57sort of way writing on this dude's and if that
- 26:01meant closing their eyes and ignoring that girls were being
- 26:04harmed all around them, then that's what they were going
- 26:07to do. According to newly on earthed, scheduling records and
- 26:10emails from the US Virgin Islands Attorney General Wolf and Epstein,
- 26:15who were close in late nineties and early two thousands,
- 26:18at one point partnering up to try and buy New
- 26:21York Magazine, had at least nine planned meetings between twenty
- 26:24twelve and twenty and fifteen. Harvey Weinstein was also involved
- 26:29in that plan purchase of New York Magazine and the
- 26:33idea behind that was obviously for Epstein to continue to
- 26:37refurbish his image and to make it look like, with
- 26:40his own narratives coming out of his own paper, that
- 26:43he's just a guy that has been much maligned and
- 26:46that all of these girls are liars. Thankfully, it never happened. Unfortunately,
- 26:50there's a bunch of jerkofs in the media like this clown,
- 26:54who have done nothing but run cover for Jeffrey Epstein
- 26:57for all of these years. These previously unreported meetups, which
- 27:02were not disclosed in Wolfe's most recent book, Too Famous,
- 27:05and its chapter title The Last Days of Jeffrey Epstein,
- 27:08provide a unique window into just how much the two
- 27:11socialized even after Epstein served jail in two thousand and
- 27:15eight and became a registered sex offender. Pretty convenient that
- 27:20he left his own palin around with Epstein out of
- 27:22the book. Huh, Yeah, you know what, we'll just we'll
- 27:25admit this and we'll make everybody else look bad. Meanwhile,
- 27:29it's not a big secret that these two were friends,
- 27:32So just be honest in your book and explain your
- 27:35friendship with this guy instead of just talking about how
- 27:38he's friends with everyone else. The first schedule hang was
- 27:43dated February sixteenth, twenty twelve, a breakfast in New York
- 27:48that listed both Wolf's cell and email. Confider cannot verify
- 27:52whether the meeting took place, but confirmed the listed cell
- 27:55number and email belonged to Wolf. And while we can't
- 27:58confirm some of these meetings, my guess is that they
- 28:02took place. Do you really think that Epstein would just
- 28:04have them penned into his calendar if they weren't going
- 28:07to happen. Whatever else this guy was, he was somebody
- 28:11that was about his shit, somebody that wanted this whole
- 28:14enterprise to keep moving, and to do that, he needed
- 28:17to have people in his pocket. He needed to have
- 28:20people writing all kinds of BS stories about him, all
- 28:23kinds of puff pieces. So all of these people would
- 28:27come and hang out with them, break bread with them,
- 28:30and they'd catch something on the back end, whether it's money,
- 28:33a trip down to the island, or something else entirely.
- 28:38On July thirtieth, twenty thirteen, Wolf was listed as having
- 28:42a scheduled lunch with Epstein at twelve thirty pm in
- 28:46New York City. In early twenty fourteen, Wolf was slated
- 28:50for a January breakfast in the city with Epstein, as
- 28:53well as dinner where Woody Allen, his wife sun Ye Previn,
- 28:57and former JP Morgan executive just among several others were
- 29:02listed as attending, followed by two meetings in September and
- 29:06another lunch in October that year. By twenty fifteen, they
- 29:11had plans to meet in January for breakfast and on
- 29:14April eighth for a late afternoon appointment. Oh, a late
- 29:17afternoon appointment? Is it? And it's so funny how all
- 29:20these people who were close to Epstein back in the
- 29:23day have tried to profit on the back of that
- 29:26relationship while not exposing just how close they were. While
- 29:30such engagements could ostensibly be characterized as source meetings for
- 29:35a reporter like Wolf, they are certainly curious considering the
- 29:39long running questions about their connections. New York Magazine notably
- 29:44killed Wolf's rehabby profile of Epstein in twenty nineteen over
- 29:48fact checking concerns, which were later alleged to include the
- 29:52author allowing Epstein to dictate the peace and field all
- 29:56fact related questions. According to Alex Yablin, the fact checker
- 30:01on the piece, and that is far too common these days.
- 30:04You have these journalists who trade their morality for access,
- 30:09and you see it time and time again. Look at
- 30:11what ABC did with the Amy Robots story when she
- 30:15had all of the details from Virginia Roberts, but instead
- 30:19of running that story, they killed it. That way they
- 30:22could keep their access to the royal family. And there's
- 30:25a lot of journalists that'll do that as well. They'll
- 30:27suspend their integrity to get the story as long as
- 30:30it's going to get them clicks or it's going to
- 30:32get them views. To hell with having any sort of
- 30:35integrity or any sort of morality. I'm just gonna say
- 30:38whatever to try and get clicks and try and secure
- 30:41that bag. And there's just way too much of that
- 30:43going on, way too many people that'll say whatever because
- 30:47they know it's going to tickle people's confirmation bias. And
- 30:50the goal is to play on people's emotions. The more
- 30:53emotional people are, the more invested they are, and the
- 30:55more willing they are to come out of their pocketbook
- 30:58to continue funding the grift. Wolf did not respond to
- 31:01Confider's multiple requests for comment about the purpose of their
- 31:05scheduled meetings or what was discussed, and while Wolfe's book
- 31:09includes the forty page chapter about Epstein, largely centered on
- 31:13the convicted sex offenders relationship with Steve Bannon. He curiously
- 31:18made no mention of his own extensive association with Epstein,
- 31:22and Epstein was trying to get some tips from Steve
- 31:25Bannon as well. Don't forget that Steve Bannon was coaching
- 31:29him as far as the interview process, and things escalated
- 31:33to a point where allegedly there was a whole interview conducted.
- 31:37But I guess it's never going to see the light
- 31:39of day. However, wolf has never been shy about sharing
- 31:44his thoughts on Epstein. He has never been secretive about
- 31:47the girls. Wolfe told New York in two thousand and seven.
- 31:51At one point when his troubles began, he was talking
- 31:53to me and said, what can I say? I like
- 31:56young girls? I said, maybe you should say I like
- 31:59young women. Imagine that's your advice. Instead of saying, here's
- 32:02an idea, stop being a sick, disgusting diddler and go
- 32:06find a woman in your own age, he says, just
- 32:09change the language. And that's the real problem, folks, that's
- 32:12the problem with all of these so called elite and
- 32:15the gatekeepers in the media that protect them. You would
- 32:18think that somebody like Michael Wolf would find what Epstein
- 32:21did abhorrent and not want to associate with him and
- 32:24tell them something a little bit different. Besides, oh, just
- 32:27change the way you word that, repackage it a little
- 32:30bit better. I mean, that's your advice as opposed to
- 32:33writing an absolute hit piece on the guy. That's the
- 32:36advice you give him. Huh. And then you go and
- 32:38write a book with a forty page chapter about Epstein
- 32:42where your tight relationship with the guy is conveniently left out. Huh. Well,
- 32:47I'm not surprised, because guess what, folks, it's just par
- 32:50for the course, all right, everybody that's gonna do it
- 32:54for this one. All of the information that goes with
- 32:56the episode can be found in the description box. What's
- 33:00up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So
- 33:05Bill Gates gave an interview to the Times of UK
- 33:09and he's once again talking about how he had no
- 33:13idea about who Jeffrey Epstein was when they became friends.
- 33:18The only problem is Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in two
- 33:21thousand and eight and him and Epstein, him and Bill
- 33:24Gates didn't start paling around until twenty and eleven. So
- 33:29Bill Gates has a bit of a problem here. Now
- 33:33he can go around and talk about how, oh, I
- 33:36had no idea that Jeffrey Epstein was a sick child
- 33:39molester and expect people to believe it. But the reality
- 33:45is most people are hit to these excuses by now,
- 33:51and specifically when we're dealing with Epstein. Most of these
- 33:55people have tried to distance themselves and act like they
- 33:58never even knew who was Well, Bill Gates can't do that.
- 34:03His own wife came out and said that one of
- 34:06the concerning issues she had with Bill Gates before their
- 34:09divorce was his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. So all of
- 34:15the bs that Bill Gates tries to pump about how
- 34:18they weren't friends, he had no idea. I don't buy
- 34:22any of it. Just another one of these dudes, one
- 34:25of these so called elites, who is trying to cover
- 34:29their own ass so that they don't have to deal
- 34:32with this fallout. Well, here's an idea. If you didn't
- 34:35want to deal with the fallout, why'd you hang out
- 34:37with the guy in the first place? Same thing I
- 34:39say about Andrew. All of these people that have the
- 34:42whole entire world at their feet, and they choose to
- 34:45engage in this sort of shit. I'll never understand it.
- 34:49Imagine having Bill Gates money and going to try and
- 34:52weasel some more money out of a guy like Epstein
- 34:54for your charities, like he says he was doing. You
- 34:58mean to tell me you don't know any other rich people.
- 35:00You have to go to a child molester's house and
- 35:02try and get money from the Huh, even after your
- 35:04wife tells you it's a bad idea. Look. I don't
- 35:07know about you guys out there who were married or
- 35:10in long term relationships, but when my girlfriend tells me
- 35:13something's a bad idea, I listen. Nobody knows me better
- 35:18than my girlfriend, So when she gives me advice, especially
- 35:22about important, serious things, you better believe I listened to
- 35:25what she has to say. And if Bill Gates would
- 35:28have listened to his wife, he wouldn't have found himself
- 35:31in this position. But he knows better, right, he's smarter
- 35:34than the rest of us. Well, not that smart, are
- 35:37you there, Billy boy? This article is from the Daily
- 35:42Mail headline. Bill Gates says he made a huge mistake
- 35:46meeting with Jeffrey Epstein for fundraising dinners and didn't realize
- 35:50those meetings would be seen as giving him credibility. Oh,
- 35:54I know, you're just so naive. You're just such a
- 35:57naive man, Bill Gates. You want everyone to believe that
- 35:59you had no idea, But at the same time, you're
- 36:02gonna get up here and tell everybody how you're gonna
- 36:05fix the next pandemic. And then you wonder why nobody
- 36:08listens to you or why conspiracy theories pop up around you.
- 36:11It's because you're not a reliable person. Okay. This article
- 36:17was authored by James Gordon. Bill Gates has admitted he's
- 36:22made a huge mistake by attending fundraising meetings with convicted
- 36:26sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. You mean pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and
- 36:30attending fundraising meetings. Come on, stop it. You think that's
- 36:34all that was going on when he was over there,
- 36:36just fundraising meetings. There wasn't any scantily claud underage girls
- 36:39running around. Look, I don't know, I wasn't there. I'm
- 36:42asking you the question. The Microsoft founder sixty five first
- 36:47met Epstein in twenty and eleven, after the financier pedophile
- 36:51had been convicted of soliciting sex from a minor in
- 36:54two thousand and eight. That makes you a pedophile, okay,
- 36:57convicted of soliciting sex from a mic or kind of
- 37:01dumbass laws that in the first place. Epstein was also
- 37:05invited to fundraising dinners that promoted the Gates Foundation. Nah,
- 37:09they didn't know each other though. Come on, I had
- 37:11no idea what Epstein was. I'm just the you know,
- 37:13third richest man in the world, second richest man in
- 37:16the world. I don't have anyone that can do research
- 37:18on the people I'm getting into business with. What are
- 37:21you crazy? At the time, I didn't realize that by
- 37:25having those meetings it would be seen as giving him credibility,
- 37:28Gates told The Times in an interview on Sunday. Oh,
- 37:31you didn't realize. Huh, Well, that's funny. I certainly don't
- 37:34have billions of dollars and houses all over the place,
- 37:39and you know, bank accounts and multiple countries. But I
- 37:43could have told you that hanging out with a convicted
- 37:45sex offender, as Bill Gates, well, what you're doing is
- 37:49refurbishing the other person's image. It doesn't take a genius
- 37:53to figure that out. Most of us out there wouldn't
- 37:58associate with somebody with offense of sexual predator as, especially
- 38:05when it involves children. But Bill Gates, what does he care?
- 38:11You're almost saying I forgive that type of behavior or something,
- 38:14so clearly the way it's seen, I made a huge
- 38:16mistake not understanding that. Oh, let's just play ignorance. Huh. Oh,
- 38:21I didn't understand it. That's why I made the mistake.
- 38:24It's not what you think it is. The dinners were
- 38:29a point of contention between the Microsoft billionaire and his
- 38:32now ex wife and business partner, Melinda French Gates, who
- 38:36described Epstein as evil personified she's not wrong about that.
- 38:41The couple announced their separation last year after twenty seven
- 38:44years of marriage. In earlier interviews, Gates stated how he
- 38:49ultimately stopped meetings with the convicted sex offender after he
- 38:53realized the meetings would not be productive for his philanthropic foundation. Again,
- 39:00the richest men in the world, Jeffrey Epstein is not
- 39:03one of the richest men in the world. He wasn't
- 39:05even worth a billion dollars. So what are you doing
- 39:08going over here and letting him play kingmaker? You don't
- 39:13have any other friends that could pony up some dough.
- 39:16Why don't you call your boy Ben Tallal over there
- 39:18in Saudi Arabia. Oh what you think we don't know
- 39:21about your business dealings with him. I had dinners with him.
- 39:28I regret doing that. He had relationships with, he said,
- 39:32with people he said would give to public health. Not
- 39:35nearly enough philanthropy goes in that direction, Gates said in
- 39:38a September twenty twenty one interview, still trying to make
- 39:42it okay, Well, not enough money goes into that avenue.
- 39:46So I was gonna get a little bit from old
- 39:47Jeffy boy as if that explains everything away and will
- 39:52make people just shrug their shoulders and be like, oh, well,
- 39:54that's what it was. Those meetings were a mistake. They
- 40:00didn't result in what he purported, and I cut them off.
- 40:04You know, that goes back a long time ago. Now,
- 40:06he said to PBS. Oh yeah, so let's just forget it.
- 40:09It was in the past. Nobody should pay attention to
- 40:11what I was doing. Meanwhile, you have people digging up
- 40:15tweets from twenty and eleven when an athlete gets drafted
- 40:20and getting called all kinds of crazy names. But Bill
- 40:23Gates and the rest of these scumbags so called elite
- 40:26can hang out, break bread with Epstein, you name it,
- 40:29and still do the circuit on national television. It tells
- 40:32you everything you need to know. Folks, The question is
- 40:35are you paying attention The billionaire is previously claimed he
- 40:40had concerns about Epstein, who had pleaded guilty and was
- 40:43convicted in two thousand and eight of procuring a child
- 40:46for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute years before the
- 40:50tech mogul met the financier pedophile. And again, children can't
- 40:55be prostitutes. So if you're soliciting a child, you're not
- 40:58soliciting a institute. You're engaging in child abuse and you
- 41:03should be arrested. I had several dinner dinners with him,
- 41:07hoping that what he said about getting billions of philanthropy
- 41:11for global health through contacts he might he might have
- 41:14he might had e merge. When it looked like that
- 41:17wasn't a real thing, that relationship ended, Gates said. So basically,
- 41:21what Gates is saying here is ah, he couldn't provide
- 41:25anything for me, so I just stopped talking to him.
- 41:27But again, I don't even believe that the original premise
- 41:32put on the table here by Gates. Oh, I'm there
- 41:34for philanthropic purposes. I'm there to get money. He's come on,
- 41:38why aren't you going to Leon Black to get money
- 41:40or Les Wexner or Jamie Diamond or insert other scumbag
- 41:45rich guy here. Why are you dealing with a man
- 41:49who is just locked in all kinds of controversy from
- 41:53day one, never mind being a sexual predator to top
- 41:57it off, there is no excuse you can give you're
- 42:00put forward that I would say, you know what, this
- 42:03is a legitimate reason that he was over at Epstein's house.
- 42:08It was a huge mistake to spend time with him
- 42:10and give him the credibility of being there. There were
- 42:13lots of others in that same situation, but I made
- 42:16a mistake. So he has to throw that in there, right,
- 42:19And it's interesting there was a lot of other people there,
- 42:22but I made a mistake. So what he's doing here
- 42:25is saying, well, look at the other people. They were
- 42:28there too, so how can you blame me? But out
- 42:31of the other side of his mouth, he says, but
- 42:33I made a mistake. So he's trying to shovel blame
- 42:37while take a little bit of that blame at the
- 42:39same time. But the reality is, I don't care what
- 42:42anybody else was doing. We're talking about you right now,
- 42:45Bill Gates. We'll get to the rest of those scumbags
- 42:47later on. You're up on the carpet right now. Don't
- 42:51try and pass the buck, pass the blame. Oh well,
- 42:54this one was doing that, that one was doing this.
- 42:56Nobody cares what were you doing. Gates has been reported
- 43:00to have visited Epstein's home numerous times and even talked
- 43:04with him about his toxic marriage, while the pedophile allegedly
- 43:08gave him advice on ending his marriage. According to The
- 43:11Daily Beast, gates visits to Epstein's lair weren't escaped from
- 43:15his unhappy marriage, and the pair were very close. The
- 43:19source said, imagine this guy's out here talking about Oh,
- 43:22it's just pursonners, and he won't get hammered in the
- 43:24media over it. He's one of those media darlings, so
- 43:27he really won't catch a beating in the media over this.
- 43:30But he should. He really should. You're going over there
- 43:34and getting marriage advice from Jeffrey Epstein, Really, that sounds
- 43:38like a profitable path to trapes down. Seemed to work
- 43:45out well for you too, considering your wife divorced, your
- 43:47bitch ass. Flight records also reveal that Gates flew with
- 43:52Epstein on the so called Lolita Express from Teterborough Airport
- 43:56in New Jersey to Palm Beach on March first, twenty thirteen,
- 44:00one of the few flights that year where a pilot,
- 44:03Larry Vassoski, recorded the name of a passenger. So what
- 44:07are you doing on the plane? You don't got your
- 44:08own jet. You don't got a Microsoft jet. That's all
- 44:11you know, tricked out that you can fly around in
- 44:14in the lapse of luxury. You have to get up
- 44:16there in Epstein's flying house of horrors and catch a flight. Why.
- 44:23I'll tell you why, Because you guys are a lot
- 44:25closer than you're letting on here, Billy Boy. In her
- 44:30first interview since her divorce from the billionaire last year,
- 44:33Melinda told CBS Mornings in March that she insisted on
- 44:37meeting Epstein back in twenty eleven because she wanted to
- 44:40see who this man was. I did not like that
- 44:43he had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein. I made that clear
- 44:46to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time.
- 44:50I wanted to see who this man was, and I
- 44:52regretted it from the second I stepped in the door.
- 44:55He was abhorrent, evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards.
- 45:00That's why my heart breaks for these young women. That's
- 45:03how I felt, and I am an older woman. He
- 45:06was awful. Imagine this is Bill Gates' wife saying this.
- 45:09She met the dude once and that's how she feels
- 45:11about him. But yet, good old billy boy Gates thinks
- 45:14it's a good idea to break bread with them, fly
- 45:17on his plane, and then get on TV and yap
- 45:19about how he's gonna help everybody. Come on, man, I'm
- 45:22not buying it. Some people out there might be buying it,
- 45:25but I'm certainly not. She told out Bill had to
- 45:29answer for the many times he met Epstein, and even
- 45:32suggested that it may have contributed to the divorce. It
- 45:36was not one thing. It was many things that led
- 45:38to the divorce. Any of the questions remaining about what
- 45:41Bill's relationship with him was those are for Bill to answer.
- 45:46I made it very clear how I felt about him,
- 45:49and I don't blame her. I'd be divorcing this dude too.
- 45:51Look if my wife came to me and said, hey, look,
- 45:54I'm hanging out with insert human trafficker abuser here, Oh yeah,
- 46:00there'd be a big problem. A spokesperson for Gates told
- 46:07Insider last June that Gates had absolutely no business partnership
- 46:11or personal friendship with Epstein, and any meetings between the
- 46:14two were about philanthropy. Yeah, what were you guys doing
- 46:17on the plane? You have to have a meeting on
- 46:19the plane about philanthropy. Can't do that over the phone
- 46:22via email zoom. Melinda, who shocked the world when she
- 46:31and Bill announced in May twenty twenty one that they
- 46:33were ending their twenty seven year marriage, previously told how
- 46:37she endured emotionally challenging times whilst working with the billionaire.
- 46:42The pair's divorce was finalized privately in Washington, where their
- 46:46Gates Foundation is based, in August. The terms of it
- 46:49were never made public, but Bill was worth a round oh,
- 46:53you know, one hundred and fifty two billion at the time,
- 46:57giving Melinda a fifty percent settlement of seventy six billion dollars.
- 47:02Good for her, and as far as Bill Gates goes, bro,
- 47:06you're worth one hundred and fifty million dollars. Okay, one
- 47:10hundred and fifty two billion dollars. Why are you meeting
- 47:13with Jeffrey Epstein to try and pony up some dough
- 47:18You don't have any friends of your own. See, it
- 47:19doesn't make sense. If Bill Gates wasn't the richest man
- 47:22in the world or close to I'd be like, all right, look,
- 47:25he's trying to get some money from the foundation. Maybe
- 47:27this is something we can listen to. But it's not
- 47:30the case. It's not like you or I showed up
- 47:32their hat in hand. This is Bill Gates. He doesn't
- 47:35need anybody. He chooses to be there. That does not
- 47:39include the couple's vast property portfolio, which comprised of homes
- 47:44in New York, Washington, and California. And I'm guessing that
- 47:48they probably have money stashed elsewhere. Melinda said in March
- 47:52that she and Bill are not friends, but are friendly
- 47:56and work together, and suggested he had more than one
- 47:59affair throughout their marriage. I believe in forgiveness. I thought
- 48:03we had work through some of that, Melinda said of
- 48:05his two thousand affair with a Microsoft employee. I gave
- 48:09every single piece of myself to this marriage. I was
- 48:12committed from the day we got engaged to the day
- 48:14I got out of it, and of course he wasn't
- 48:17How many of these rich dudes like Bill Gates end
- 48:21up doing this, And I'm convinced it's because when they
- 48:25were growing up, they never had any girls or dates,
- 48:28or you know, nobody wanted to hang out with them
- 48:30on the weekends. So they get a little bit of money,
- 48:32a little bit of power, and all of a sudden,
- 48:35they feel like they're seventeen years old out there, you know,
- 48:39trying to hook up with anything that moves the whole thing.
- 48:42And Bill Gates was no different. He definitely had that
- 48:45frat boy mentality. Gates spokeswoman confirmed he had a sexual
- 48:51relationship with a female staff member in two thousand and
- 48:55that he resigned as an investigation into the relationship was
- 49:00being conducted by an external law firm on behalf of
- 49:04the company board. The New York Times also reported that
- 49:08Gates asked out a Microsoft employee in two thousand and
- 49:11six after watching her make a presentation, and a couple
- 49:15of years later asked out an employee with the Bill
- 49:17and Melinda Gates Foundation, both while he was married and
- 49:21not only that if you're the boss, why are you
- 49:23asking out your employees? Even if they don't want to
- 49:27go out with you, They're gonna feel pressured or compelled
- 49:31or whatever, and they're gonna, you know, maybe make a
- 49:34decision they don't want to make. Here's an idea. If
- 49:36you're a man in a position of power, you don't
- 49:39have to date your employees. Okay, go and find a
- 49:42girl at the bar, get on tender, whatever it is
- 49:45the kids are doing these days. Do that, because dating
- 49:48your subordinates not a good idea. Gates reportedly told the
- 49:55Microsoft employee in an email, if this makes you uncomfortable,
- 49:59pretend it never happened. She said, she took his advice.
- 50:02I mean, as if if this makes you uncomfortable, yeah
- 50:06it does. Gates allegedly later asked an employee with the
- 50:12Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to dinner while the pair
- 50:15were in New York for a trip. Last year, four
- 50:18Microsoft employees accused Gates of being an office bully whose
- 50:22catchphrase was that's the stupidest fucking idea I've ever heard. Well,
- 50:26I can't get too mad at them for that. I mean,
- 50:29I've said that to myself. My inner monologue runs on repeat,
- 50:33saying that, especially when I'm working in a corporate environment,
- 50:37So I'm not going to hold that against him too much. Look,
- 50:40you're in a high pressure environment when you're working in
- 50:42a place like Microsoft, and you have to come mentally
- 50:45prepared for the heavy workload, and you're gonna have people
- 50:49like Bill Gates who expect a lot from you. So
- 50:52when you accept a job like that, you have to
- 50:54understand that you're working under timelines and you know all
- 50:57of the rest of it. So I'm not so worried
- 51:00about bosses who are, you know, kind of dicky. I've
- 51:03had plenty of those in my life. But as long
- 51:05as they're good at their job and you know, they're
- 51:09not bullying you or whatever for the most part, then
- 51:12I really don't have too much of an issue with it.
- 51:15But just about every boss or sports coach I've ever
- 51:20had has been, let us say, are rough around the edges.
- 51:29Gate's reputation as a hot tempered boss began not long
- 51:32after he launched the tech giant Microsoft with childhood friend
- 51:35Paul Allen in nineteen seventy five. Insider reported a spokesperson
- 51:40for the billionaire has denied he mistreated employees. See, there's
- 51:45a lot of gray area there as far as quote
- 51:47unquote mistreated employees. Everybody feels differently about what mistreatment might
- 51:52be in the workplace. Right, some people are, you know,
- 51:55more willing to accept a rigid boss who might have
- 51:59a foul as long as things are productive, whereas other
- 52:03people they might not dig that right and they might
- 52:05find it abusive. So I get it. Anytime that I'm
- 52:09managing a department, anytime that I'm in charge of other people,
- 52:13I have a simple rule, and that's just to treat
- 52:15everybody the same way I'd want to be treated. And
- 52:18every management job I have ever had, I have worked
- 52:21my way up from the bottom rung, so I understand
- 52:24how all of the other jobs go. So I am
- 52:28you know, I understand the issues people on the frontline
- 52:31are having as well as what's going on in the office.
- 52:39A former Microsoft executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity,
- 52:43told the outlet that having a meeting with Bill was
- 52:46just an opportunity to get yelled at. So I tried
- 52:48to avoid that. See that's lame. You can't do that.
- 52:51You can't just yell at people all the time for
- 52:53no reason, you gotta treat people with respect right. Gates
- 52:58would even allegedly track is in employees by memorizing their
- 53:01license plates. According to the outlet, Now that's batshit looney behavior.
- 53:06Maria Claw, a former Microsoft board member, said a person
- 53:09like Bill Gates thinks the usual rules of behavior don't
- 53:12apply to him, and accused him of being unreceptive to
- 53:16suggestions about improving diversity. Claw said that Gates behaved as
- 53:21if he was the smartest person in the room, and
- 53:23that diversity was not something Gates was interested in hearing about.
- 53:28Oh he'll tell you differently, though, Right, all of these
- 53:30guys will get up there and they'll tell you about
- 53:32how they're the greatest man in the world and how
- 53:35they're doing this to save the world. They're doing that
- 53:37to save the world. But the reality is, behind closed doors,
- 53:41these people are just scum. She said that when female
- 53:46executives would suggest diversity initiatives, Gates would allegedly respond with
- 53:51are you trying to effen destroy the company? As spokesperson
- 53:55for Gates told Insider that Claw's allegations are a gross mischaracterization.
- 54:00Melinda herself was an employee at Microsoft, having been hired
- 54:05at as a product manager in nineteen eighty seven, when
- 54:08the billionaire first asked her out months after flirting with
- 54:11her at a conference dinner. Again, this guy only gets
- 54:14girls at work. It seems like one of those dudes.
- 54:17And you could say what you want, but my opinion
- 54:19of it is this he does that because he knows
- 54:21he can flex his power and they can't say no.
- 54:28In the nineteen ninety two biography Hard Drive Bill Gates
- 54:31in the Making of the Microsoft Empire, author James Wallace
- 54:34revealed Gates had an alleged affair with a married woman
- 54:37thirteen years older than him when he was twenty seven
- 54:40years old. So what really, who cares honestly about the
- 54:44age difference. I mean, the affair makes you a scumbag,
- 54:47But if you're twenty seven and you're having an affair
- 54:50with someone who's forty, I don't really see the big deal. Honestly,
- 54:54once you start getting to a certain age, I mean,
- 54:56it is what it is. His alleged affair was with
- 55:00the wife of an Osborne computer executive who lived abroad.
- 55:03According to the biography, See that's what makes you a
- 55:06scumback that kind of shit. The age difference twenty seven
- 55:09forty whatever. If you're happy, you're happy. Gates himself admitted
- 55:15to frequenting the area centered on Washington Street between Boylston
- 55:19Street and Kneeland Street in a nineteen ninety four interview
- 55:23he did with Playboy magazine. Just because I went there,
- 55:27it doesn't mean I engaged in everything that was going on,
- 55:30Gates said. I ate pizza, red books, watch what was
- 55:33going on. I went to the dinners. Wallace claimed to
- 55:37Insider that gates pensiant for socializing with women remained even
- 55:41after he started dating Melinda Gates in nineteen eighty seven.
- 55:45Gates was allegedly known to invite friends to swim naked
- 55:48at his bachelor pad in Laurelhurst, where he rounded up
- 55:52dancers from local all night nude nightclubs. Wallace said, So,
- 55:57this dude has everyone come over having a little pool.
- 56:00He's swimming around in the nude like Caligula over here.
- 56:03I mean, what's next, He's gonna hire people to nibble
- 56:06on his feet and his legs while he's swimming around.
- 56:10Go get the girls from the all night nude clubs.
- 56:14I don't know if he was physically transported, if he
- 56:16physically transported them or if he just told them where
- 56:19to show up. While this told the outlet, Robert X. Kringley,
- 56:23who wrote a popular computer gossip column for info World,
- 56:26told Insider that Gates was allegedly often inebriated at tech
- 56:30events and after parties, and that he got drunk pretty easily.
- 56:35So not only are you with douche, you're a lightweight.
- 56:38Stop drinking, Quit acting like an idiot, Quit cheating on
- 56:40your girlfriends, your wives, And here's an idea, try to
- 56:44be a decent human. For once, all of us will
- 56:47have been at some affair where Bill was clearly impaired.
- 56:50He was happier drunk, Kringley said. Gates, than thirty three,
- 56:54took a helicopter to the less Arcs ski resort in
- 56:58the French Alps for an international sales meeting for Microsoft
- 57:01in the summer of nineteen eighty eight, where he was
- 57:04allegedly caught lying on top of a woman on the lawn.
- 57:08The pair were just snuggling after Gates joined his employees
- 57:11for drinks in a Swiss chalet and partied until the
- 57:14early morning. Dan Graves, a former Micro Microsoft export manager,
- 57:19told Inside her Oh yeah, they were just cuddling, folks.
- 57:21Nothing to see here. Imagine that's your husband out there, ladies,
- 57:25cuddling with some woman on the lawn, and when he's
- 57:27supposed to be out of tech conference working. Sure that
- 57:30would go over well. After he started dating Melinda, Gates
- 57:37allegedly struggled to commit to her, and she was allegedly
- 57:40aware of his womanizing. The outlet reported the couple even
- 57:43broke up for at least a year early in their relationship.
- 57:47Bill wanted to be married, but he didn't know whether
- 57:50he could actually commit to it and have Microsoft, Melinda
- 57:53said in an interview for the Netflix docuseries Inside Bill's Brain,
- 57:58The Coding Bill Gates. Even after marrying Melinda Gates told
- 58:02Time magazine in nineteen ninety seven that he still went
- 58:05on annual vacations to the outer banks of North Carolina
- 58:08with his ex girlfriend and Winblad, the software entrepreneur whom
- 58:13he dated from nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty seven.
- 58:17Bill and Melinda Gates' personal affairs have been managed by
- 58:20Watermark Estate Management since at least two thousand and one,
- 58:24which would allegedly arrange Gates' annual beach trips with wind Blad,
- 58:30so he was obviously out here creeping all the time,
- 58:33acting the full hanging out with Epstein, and I'm sure
- 58:35he was up to other shit as well. That's why
- 58:37I find it laughable when this guy gets on TV
- 58:40and talks about, Oh, I'm going to save the world.
- 58:43See I'm not talking about any weird conspiracy nonsense, right,
- 58:46I'm talking about the man in General's a dangerous dude
- 58:50if he has this kind of decision making and these
- 58:52are the kind of frenzy decides to hang out with.
- 58:55Are we really going to listen to this guy when
- 58:57he's talking about the trajectory of the world. I mean,
- 59:00I'm not going to that's for sure, But I don't know.
- 59:04I guess people are going to still listen, and you know,
- 59:08give what he has to say some credit. Me personally,
- 59:11just another one of the scumbags that was hanging out
- 59:14with Epstein, or, like I always say, just another fellow traveler.
- 59:20If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 59:22at Bobby Kapouchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
- 59:26B B y c apu Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 59:31You can also find me on Twitter at bo b
- 59:35b y c ap you Cci. And the article that
- 59:39we discussed can be found in the description box. All right, folks,
- 59:44that's it for this one. I'll be back later on
- 59:46and we'll pick up where we left off.