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But before we do all of that, we
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have to get into what is going on
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now.
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And that is the primary election season for
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the midterm coming up in November.
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We had an election on Saturday, and we
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have a big one coming up on Tuesday.
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Let's get into it.
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Matt, welcome back for Mondays with Matt.
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Good to be back, of course, and uh
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get another eventful week.
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It was they all are anymore if you
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pay attention to politics.
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But let's pay attention to this race that
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took place on Saturday night, and let's go
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to this clip from NBC to hear about
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it.
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NBC News is now declaring that Congresswoman Julia
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Letlow and Louisiana State Treasurer John Fleming have
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both advanced to a runoff.
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That runoff will be held on June 27th,
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neither getting a clear outright majority tonight that
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would have won this primary on the spot.
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But significantly what that means.
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Uh over the weekend that uh for the
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first time in 14 years, he didn't even
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get out of the primary.
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What does that say about Donald Trump's power
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within the party or within the base to
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come out and have Bill Cassidy come in
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third place?
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There will be a runoff, as he mentioned
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in June.
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Letlow, a congressman from Louisiana had about 47%
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of the vote, while the second place treasurer
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there for the state of Louisiana, he was
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just above Cassidy with about 25-26%.
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So it looks like Lettlow will eventually win
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the nomination for the Republicans and go on
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to the general election in November.
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But what are your thoughts there about Cassidy
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and the power still of Donald Trump?
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Yeah, I mean it's historic both because it
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was as he said, and I mean I
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was really hoping I could drop this stat
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because, you know, as Richard Smith's story ahead
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of time.
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Uh it was the first in 14 years.
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But it's, you know, it's more impressive than
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that in that, you know, as you were
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just saying as well, Cassidy got less than
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25% of the vote.
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So, you know, in in the past, when
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senators have been primary, it was uh obviously
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a heck of a lot closer to that
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kind of blowout.
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Uh Letlow only needs to bring over about
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five percent of the vote to win um
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from Cassidy's people if they even turn out
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in the next round of the second round
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in really any primary tends to see a
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pretty significant drop off in turnout.
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So uh I I don't think it'll really
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be a problem for Letlow.
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And yes, this was the second reminder in
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the past few weeks we've seen of Trump's
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influence in the party um in Indiana.
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Um I remember when we reported on it,
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I kept saying Illinois for some reason.
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Yeah, that was last week.
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That was last week.
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And then I did it on another show
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after this.
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Good job, man.
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But uh, I don't know what was wrong
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with me that day.
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But in Indi Indiana, they also are also
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Senate primaries, and all of the Senate, or
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not all of them, but many senators up
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that were being primaried had voted against redistricting
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in the state.
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Um there are you know the the Mike
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Pence principles first faction of the party.
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Um the the principles basically being to let
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the left walk all over you, as well
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as long as we can say we're superior
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or morally righteous or whatever.
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But but they basically all uh actually think
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all but one got primaried out of office,
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and the effect was so strong that there
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was actually one Republican up for re-election who
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did not uh vote or sorry who who
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did vote to redistrict, but I guess just
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kind of got caught up in the story
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and almost lost.
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But there was enough people who who correctly
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identified her as being someone who voted for
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redistricting and did keep her seat.
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But it was a close uh race.
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So it did show the knives were out
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in that election.
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I and yes, listen, it is Trump's party
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now.
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The Republican Party of the, you know, we're
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we're in a two-party system in this country,
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but the identity of the party has shifted
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uh drastically, and that if we were, you
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know, a European country where there's five major
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competing parties and they're constantly splitting and re-merging
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and new ones are popping up.
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The Trump Party probably would be a signific
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like a different party from the Republican Party,
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and it would have a lot of overlap
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on you know with fiscal conservatism of of
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the prior GOP.
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But the identity of the Trump Republican Party
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is I mean, there's obviously no comparison to
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the Bush type Republicans and the McCann Republicans.
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You know, it it's the party has shifted
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so much, we don't even consider them to
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be Republicans anymore.
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And if you look at if you look
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at this race in Kentucky, too, that's taking
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place on Tuesday with Massey and Gallren, that
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is a whole different animal when it comes
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to Republicans and the people that are supporting
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Thomas Massey from outside Kentucky 4, which we're
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gonna get to that race here in a
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few minutes.
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Before we do, though, let's go to this
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clip with Jason Shavitz having a conversation with
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Senator Cassidy before the polls closed on Saturday.
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Here, let's listen to this together.
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You and I got to serve in the
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in the Congress for a little while.
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Um, but my question for you is still
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about Donald Trump.
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I mean, knowing what you know now about
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the farce that was put forward to the
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American people and the Congress, knowing what you
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know now, would you still vote to actually
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convict Donald Trump of the charges that he
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was put up for?
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Reporters always love to ask that question.
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I'm a doctor.
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You give me all the information I can.
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I make a decision, I move on.
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I don't keep on going back, oh, what
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happened five years ago?
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I'm thinking about what's going to happen five
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years ago.
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If I'll be reporting, you just talked about
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Jason.
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Let me done for the first time.
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Let me finish here.
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You just touted everything you've done for the
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last five years.
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Why can't you answer that question?
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Did you or did you not?
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Knowing what you know now, which I want
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you to answer that question, would you or
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would you not actually vote to convict, knowing
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what you know now?
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It's a simple question.
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Yeah, Jason, you may go back and flagulate
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yourself over decisions in the past, I do
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not.
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I move on.
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By the way, what I'm talking about is
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not just the is not just the present,
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it is the future.
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By the way, the future also includes that
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By the way, the future also includes that
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if somebody wants somebody working for the state
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if somebody wants somebody working for the state
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of Louisiana for the future not fixated on
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of Louisiana for the future not fixated on
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the past, then polls close at eight o'clock
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the past, then polls close at 8 o'clock
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tonight.
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tonight.
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Get out there and vote.
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Get out there and vote.
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And the people of Louisiana clearly voiced their
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And the people of Louisiana clearly voiced their
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opinion to get rid of Senator Cassidy.
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opinion to to get rid of Senator Cassidy.
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I I found that clip really interesting in
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I I found that clip really interesting in
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that you know, all these years later, he
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that you know, all these years later, he
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still cannot admit after all of the hearings
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still cannot admit after all of the hearings
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that the Russian hoax was a hoax, that
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that the Russian hoax was a hoax, that
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the perfect
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the perfect phone call to uh uh Ukraine
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that got Trump impeached, that none of that
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was reality.
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He cannot do that, and that's why he
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lost.
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That's why he got 24% of the vote
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after being an incumbent for uh 12 years.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the I mean he wouldn't answer
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the question because the answer is no, which
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yeah, I guess it's kind of a redeeming
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quality that he wouldn't, you know, be lying,
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but it also is still the wrong answer
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because he's he's still siding with the hoax.
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And the doctor analogy was so bizarre.
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If you and I were doctors, and uh
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you we diagnosed a patient five years ago,
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and then all this evidence came out that
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it was fatally wrong.
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Um, you better hope we then revise and
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go, oh my god, you know, knowing we
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know now, absolutely we should change the diagnosis.
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So it seems like no, he just he
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doesn't actually think that uh anything should change.
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And good written to him.
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Yeah, goodbye.
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Hopefully, there's a chilling effect to other Republicans.
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I I think we haven't said this statin
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yet that there was 16 Republicans in the
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House and Senate combined that had voted in
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one of the two uh hoax impeachments to
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impeach to indict Donald Trump, or to convict
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rather.
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Uh four uh was it 14 of them
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are gone in the Senate, it's only Collins
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and House Skiramine, and I don't can't remember
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the two in the House, but basically they're
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almost all gone.
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Yeah, good thing.
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And I think it also shows that the
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base for Donald Trump, they have a memory
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like an elephant.
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They are not forgetting things that people did
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in Congress to go against Donald Trump, and
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Thomas Massey is another one of those that
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we will get to.
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But before we do, let's go to some
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losing speech comments that Senator Cassidy gave.
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This was not the result that I necessarily
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wanted, but I feel great.
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When you participate in democracy, sometimes it doesn't
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turn out the way you want it to.
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But you don't pound.
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You don't whine, you don't claim the election
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was stolen, you don't find a reason why
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you don't manufacture some excuse.
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You thank the voters for the privilege of
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representing the state or the country for as
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long as you've had that privilege.
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He's oblivious to everything that has come out
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in hearings right there where he works over
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the last five years.
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And I don't think he's alone in the
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Senate.
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I think a lot of guys in the
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Senate and women, they are oblivious to all
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of the evidence that has come out over
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the last five years about the election in
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2020.
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And uh they should at least be asking
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the questions.
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It seems like people like Senator Ron Johnson
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are really the only ones in the Senate
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that are asking the real questions about things
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that happened in 2020.
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Uh yeah, I agree entirely.
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And uh, you know, even if the fraud
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evidence isn't enough to overturn the election, you
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know, even if it's uh some way smaller
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scale than we thought, it's still stuff we
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need to know to prepare against in the
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future.
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Um I am you know, if you are
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in a legal alien in this country, there
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are a lot of states where in fact
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most blue states, you can get a driver's
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license as an illegal alien, and many of
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the states automatically register you to vote when
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you get a license.
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So what do you think happens?
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And in fact, like when you register to
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vote, if you if you're and I know
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this for a fact has happened, I am
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actually referencing actual cases.
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If you were an illegal alien on an
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American college campus and you see a register
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to vote booth, and you write down your
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name and apartment or wherever you're saying, you
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will be registered to vote, and you can
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you can go to an election and vote.
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And there's no cross-referencing anywhere to check that
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you're actually a citizen.
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So, you know, I I used to think
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that illegals, you know, if they were going
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to be mobilized to vote, there would have
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to be a theft of identities and the
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legals would have to impersonate them and try
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to pretend they're them.
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That's not the case at all.
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You can just it's so easy to register
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to vote and fraud.
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And I don't know which you know, type
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of voter fraud will be exposed um when
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more evidence comes out, but we want to
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know every single detail we can and and
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mocking uh election integrity after losing is a
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bizarre thing.
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Yeah, if we don't know the truth.
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It would have been hilarious if he tongue-in-cheek
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claimed the election was stolen.
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I would have given him that.
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If we don't know the truth about what
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happened, we can't fix what was wrong.
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And you you you dealt with the illegal
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immigration side of it.
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What about the drop boxes that we had
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in cities in blue cities where we know
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that people dropped off hundreds and hundreds of
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ballots, and we don't know who they were.
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We have uh evidence in Atlanta of all
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these prestige ballots that were all for Joe
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Biden, and we had at 2 a.m.
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a big bunch of Joe Biden votes come
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in and and Donald Trump went the other
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way.
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So we have questions.
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We should ask those questions, and people like
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Senator Cassidy, who are still oblivious to it,
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are not helping anything when it comes to
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election integrity.
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Let's go to this race that's happening Tuesday
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in Kentucky, Kentucky for Ed Gallren is the
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candidate that Donald Trump has endorsed.
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He's trying to get rid of Thomas Massey,
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the libertarian there in uh Kentucky.
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He's been there for 14 years since 2012.
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He won a special election and then won
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the regular election in 2012.
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Here is Donald Trump on Thomas Massey.
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We got to get rid of this loser.
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This guy is bad.
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He's disloyal to the Republican Party.
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He's disloyal to the people of Kentucky, and
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most importantly, he is disloyal to the United
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States of America.
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And he's got to be voted out of
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office as soon as possible.
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And as soon as possible is Tuesday.
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And it's going to be an interesting to
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watch.
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If you pay attention to the polling, early
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April, the Quantum Insights poll had Thomas Massey
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winning by seven or eight points.
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And then, as early May, the Quantum Insights,
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the same poll, it came out with a
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larger sampling.
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I think the one in early April was
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about 407.
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The one in early May was about 900,
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a little over 900, so it was a
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bigger sampling size.
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And now it has Gallren ahead by 8%,
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which is a huge flip.
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And I don't know that I trust that.
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I I don't trust it, I'll say that.
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And then you have the predictive, the predictive
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markets also are now showing Gallren will win.
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I think it's 5545 as of Sunday.
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That's what I got in front of me,
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which I was looking at.
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And the thing is, if the poll with
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with uh Gallren had eight was accurate, the
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betting odds would be like 90 10 in
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his favor.
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Be like 90 ten in his favor.
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So the market doesn't seem to buy that
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So the market doesn't seem to buy that
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poll.
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poll.
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And I will say that state level polls,
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And I I will say that state level
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the margin of error is often like five
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polls, the margin of error is often like
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to ten percent.
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five to ten percent, in that um Susan
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In that um, Susan Collins tends to win
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Collins tends to win her elections in an
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her elections in an absolute blowout in her
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absolute blowout in her most recent election.
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most recent election.
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I think Quinn A Piac had her losing
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I think Quinn A Piac had her losing
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by something comical, like 10 points, and then
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by something comical, like 10 points, and then
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she won by a block.
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she won by a blow.
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So for for whatever reason, the state level
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So for whatever reason, the state level polling,
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polling, maybe it's just the sample isn't isn't
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maybe it's just the sample isn't isn't big
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big enough.
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enough that just doesn't seem to work that
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That just doesn't seem to work that way.
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well.
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Um, among many many other issues with polling.
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But yeah, it seems to be about a
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coin flip right now.
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Um, and nasty is someone who I think
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wins his elections by you know 70 huge.
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Yeah.
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Get 70 plus percent of the the vote
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3500.
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35 points, 40 points, he usually wins.
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He's he's never been pressured.
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Where he is is a Republican area, but
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um, it does show he is incredibly credibly
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popular there, or at least was.
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So I think this will be the biggest
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test of Trump's power, and uh seems to
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be working so far.
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It is a litmus test, I think, for
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Donald Trump in this race.
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It's gonna be one to watch for sure,
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but the thing that I'm seeing on social
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media that is very uncomfortable to me is
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the people in influencers that are supporting Thomas
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Massey.
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And if you say anything against Thomas Massey,
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these people to me are anti-Semitic, and they
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are coming at you because they believe that
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the Jewish people, APEC, completely control America, which
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is nuts to me that they believe that.
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And to me, it shows that the influence
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of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and others has
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worked effectively on a large group of people
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in America.
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These people are not people that live in
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Kentucky 4.
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They live all over the country.
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They are libertarians and loudmouths, and they go
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after people really hard on social media over
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Thomas Massey.
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And when you look at Thomas Massey's record,
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there isn't much there to see.
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And I wrote an article on this, Matt.
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I don't know if you read it.
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It's been out a couple of weeks ago.
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It's still going around, but uh basically Thomas
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Massey passed one piece of legislation for the
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people of Kentucky 4.
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That was 12 years ago in 2014.
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It had to do with the Ohio River
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in 276 miles along the Ohio River, which
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happens to be where his district is.
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Since then, he has passed nothing with his
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name on it to help his constituency.
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What he has done is found out in
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2020 by doing what he did to bring
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everybody back to vote for the CARES Act,
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uh, have them vote in person instead of
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by proxy and by voice over the phone,
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is that it worked in raising a lot
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of money.
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If you look at his fundraising, his fundraising
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since then has gone through the roof and
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continues, and they are still trying to raise
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money as of Sunday afternoon for this race
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that is Tuesday.
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This money is not for Tuesday.
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You can't spend it in a day.
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It can't be spent.
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So it's for something else.
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Either Thomas Massey loses the race, he keeps
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the money, creates a pack, and he lives
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off that for years as expenses, or he
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will save it for the general election, which
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in reality he's not gonna need because it's
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never a race anyway.
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As you were saying, it's a 30, 40
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point race.
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So he is still trying to fundraise off
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this grift, to me, is what it is,
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because he has uh uh a popularity among
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libertarians across the country, but not for his
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constituency in Kentucky 4.
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That's the way I see this.
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Yeah.
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You were you were saying too that um
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if you criticize Massey his supporters on at
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least in social media where he clin will
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claim that all you know um his opponent's
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money is from Israel, it was googling as
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you said that Massey's largest donor is a
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pro Jewish pro-Israel Jewish billionaire named Jeffy Os.
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So he he obviously is also taking money
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from from Jewish people.
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So that's you know, that's not um really
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a component of the race at all.
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They're they're both taking money from uh those
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people.
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So he is uh you know, anyone making
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those claims should know that.
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Uh as for the amount of money, um,
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yes, you can use these packs as a
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slush fund.
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In fact, I think it was Mary Pallada,
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who was a rep in Alaska.
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I think she beat Sarah Panlin and then
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lost after that.
18:09
Um had announced she was gonna run for
18:11
Senate, spent a bunch of campaign funds she
18:14
had, and then never actually ran for Senate,
18:16
but just the announcement enabled her to spend
18:18
all the money.
18:21
So Adam Kinzinger is a Kinzinger in Illinois,
18:23
is a great example.
18:26
He announced that he was retiring from the
18:27
House.
18:29
He joined the J6 committee, and he raised
18:31
three times the amount of money that he
18:33
had ever raised in an election cycle when
18:35
he announced that he was retiring.
18:37
And that was only because he was on
18:39
that J6 committee.
18:40
So something needs to be fixed there about
18:42
what uh former politicians can do with that
18:45
money when they go out of office, or
18:47
we're gonna continue to see things like this.
18:50
It's gonna be interesting to watch.
18:51
Here's what I think, Matt.
18:52
I think that Thomas Massey will actually win
18:55
this race in Kentucky 4.
18:57
And I think he's gonna do it a
18:59
little bit more than people think.
19:00
I don't think it's gonna be as close.
19:02
That's my gut feeling on this from everything
19:04
that I'm seeing that I believe that Massey
19:06
is going to be safe, and he will
19:08
continue to be the obstructionist that he has
19:10
become.
19:12
He is one versus 434 in the House
19:14
of Representatives.
19:16
And unfortunately, it doesn't do anything as uh
19:19
you try to progress the Trump agenda.
19:22
That's the way I see it.
19:23
It's gonna be close.
19:25
Nobody really knows.
19:26
I don't even know, but that's the way
19:27
I predict it.
19:28
Matt, do you want to add anything to
19:29
that?
19:30
Oh, just be a contrarian and say he'll
19:31
lose.
19:33
Well, that's fine.
19:34
We can have something to talk about next
19:35
week.
19:36
Yeah, we'll have something to talk about next
19:37
week.
19:38
And then Spencer Pratt in my desk for
19:39
the show.
19:40
Yeah, you like Spencer Pratt.
19:41
Yeah, I went against him as well in
19:42
Los Angeles.
19:44
I mean, it it's a one in four
19:46
chance if the odds are to be believed.
19:48
But it's still not, you know, it's bad
19:49
but not terrible.
19:51
Donald Trump went to China.
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21:53
Palumbo, as we always do.
21:55
Matt, you told me before we started the
21:58
show tonight that your daughter, by the way,
22:00
is coming up on one in November.
22:02
So what is she nine months now?
22:04
She has six months.
22:06
Six months.
22:07
Okay, well, my math is terrible.
22:09
It's all good.
22:10
She she has started crawling.
22:12
Congratulations.
22:12
That's a backwards only, though.
22:14
Backwards only.
22:16
So I don't know if that means she's
22:17
halfway there or is a hundred percent in
22:18
the wrong direction.
22:20
Yeah, I think it means you're gonna have
22:21
your hands full, is what that means.
22:24
Yeah, I would take that as an omen
22:25
if that's the case.
22:26
Okay, Donald Trump goes to China.
22:28
What do you make of the trip to
22:29
China?
22:31
It's one of those things where I learned
22:33
about that it was happening on this show
22:34
with you, and then proceeded to not watching
22:36
because I was too busy with my daughter,
22:38
but uh watching her walk backwards.
22:40
Yeah, you were watching her walk backwards is
22:42
what you were saying.
22:44
Crawl backwards.
22:45
I'm sorry.
22:46
As the country was hopefully moving forward.
22:49
I think this trip uh, you know, I
22:51
think it was about semiconductors.
22:53
I think it mainly was about artificial intelligence
22:56
and that 21st century arms race.
22:58
I believe that's what it was.
23:00
And I I you know that maybe there
23:01
were more things.
23:03
I know that Trump is trying to put
23:05
some pressure on G to put pressure on
23:07
Iran so that he can end that, because
23:09
that also needs to come to an end.
23:11
Uh but you know, there were some things
23:13
that have some of the base of Trump
23:16
upset coming back from that meeting and conversations
23:18
with Brett Baer and also on Hannity when
23:20
it comes to 500,000 students in America from
23:23
China.
23:25
I I don't know that his answer there
23:28
was Let's listen, let's listen to the clip
23:30
and then we can talk about it.
23:33
In case in case somebody missed it like
23:35
you, then let's let's listen to that one
23:36
clip.
23:38
That's the whole part I did attention to.
23:40
Here it is.
23:40
I would assume I'm in Beijing if I
23:43
wanted to buy property near one of their
23:45
military installations.
23:48
I don't think President Chi.
23:52
You want to see farm prices drop.
23:54
You want to see farmers lose a lot
23:55
of money, just take that out of the
23:56
market.
23:58
Uh, but uh they've had a lot of
24:00
land for a long time.
24:03
Obama did nothing about it.
24:05
They bought a lot of it during the
24:06
Obama administration.
24:08
He did nothing about it.
24:10
As far as the students, it's 500,000 students
24:13
they come, good students.
24:16
Uh I could tell them I don't want
24:19
any students is a very insulting thing to
24:22
say to a country.
24:26
I don't have a problem with insulting our
24:27
number one adversary.
24:29
Do you, Matt?
24:31
No, and and there are like a ton
24:33
of colleges in this country where between 30
24:36
and 50 percent of the population of them
24:38
is foreign-born, meaning if we didn't have international
24:41
students, the de facto indoctrination factories would completely
24:44
collapse.
24:46
Yeah.
24:47
Um, we probably have way more colleges than
24:48
we need.
24:50
And part of the reason they can charge
24:52
what they charge, and and Trump's actually fixed
24:54
this by capping how much money you can
24:56
borrow, at least in part, but a large
24:58
part of the reason it's so expensive is
24:59
because there is endless demand for it.
25:02
So, yeah, if you reduce the demand, you
25:03
can reduce the price as well.
25:05
I think there should be fewer colleges, they
25:07
should maybe merge or consolidate or whatever.
25:09
Um, when it comes to um Trump, though,
25:12
talking about the 500,000 Chinese college students, he
25:16
actually has drastically already reduced the number of
25:19
foreign students coming.
25:22
So I think he's sort of balancing rhetoric
25:25
and policy where he's trying to um I
25:28
I don't know, appease China in making a
25:31
statement like that.
25:34
But the the actual reality is, and I
25:35
don't know if it's I the numbers I've
25:37
seen are for all foreign students, they are
25:39
down significantly.
25:41
Um Trump has also done this with uh
25:43
illegal immigration, and that the administration has publicly
25:46
pushed a narrative that they're going after criminal
25:49
illegal aliens first, and I mean every illegal
25:51
alien is a criminal, but by criminal they
25:54
mean you know, people who've committed offenses and
25:56
presumably violent offenses in addition to being here
25:59
illegally.
26:02
And I I think they're pushing that narrative
26:04
because it's just what you know that has
26:07
you know 90 whatever percent approval.
26:10
No one disagrees with that, right?
26:11
Even though we need to get rid of
26:13
all the legals, but in actual practice, they're
26:15
just supporting anyone they can, which is obviously
26:17
what we want.
26:18
But it's another case where there's a there's
26:21
a public um, you know, perception versus what's
26:23
actually happening thing where they're trying to balance
26:25
both, where the right thing to do is
26:27
I would say no foreign college students.
26:30
The popular thing is that you know, in
26:32
this case with China is to say you're
26:34
letting them in, and with illegal immigration, everyone's
26:36
for even most democrats are for getting rid
26:37
of ones that have committed other crimes, but
26:39
in reality, we need all of them gone,
26:41
and that's what they're doing.
26:43
So Hannity started that questioning off with land
26:46
being bought by Chinese here in America, and
26:49
I think Trump sort of brushed that off,
26:52
but in reality, when you look at it,
26:55
Canada owns more land in America than anyone
26:58
else at 15.4 million acres.
27:01
China is way down that list.
27:03
The problem I have with the land that
27:05
China owns, and it's not China, the government,
27:07
it's companies and uh individuals that own property
27:10
in America is where that land is, which
27:12
it happens to be really close to military
27:14
bases.
27:16
Let's go on with this clip here from
27:18
Donald Trump because I think he's gonna get
27:20
into a little bit about what you were
27:22
just talking about, schools collapsing if he did
27:24
not allow uh you know 500,000 Chinese students
27:26
in America.
27:29
They would then immediately go out and start
27:31
building universities all over China.
27:33
But if you don't have those students, good
27:34
students, by the way.
27:36
If you don't, and and we do another
27:37
thing, you know, if they're good and they
27:39
want to stay in America, we we won't
27:40
give them a green card and things like
27:41
that.
27:43
Um, you know, I've and that not only
27:45
them, but other other countries.
27:47
But if you want to see a university
27:49
system die, take a half a million people
27:51
out of it.
27:53
Yeah, well, maybe we should, man, to your
27:55
point.
27:56
I I don't think that that's a bad
27:57
thing.
27:58
I think that uh uh some of these
28:00
Some of these colleges are a hoax at
28:00
colleges are a hoax at this point.
28:01
this point.
28:02
I don't think that we need as many
28:02
I don't think that we need as many
28:03
as we have.
28:03
as we have.
28:04
It's become such a huge business, and I
28:04
It's become such a huge business.
28:06
I just don't know.
28:06
And I I just don't know.
28:08
Uh let's go to another clip here of
28:08
Uh let's go to another clip here of
28:10
Donald Trump with Brett Bear.
28:10
Donald Trump with Brett Baer.
28:12
This took place.
28:12
This took place.
28:13
By the way, last night we talked the
28:13
By the way, last night we talked the
28:15
whole night about that issue.
28:15
whole night about that issue.
28:16
I think um I know more about Taiwan
28:16
I think um I know more about Taiwan
28:19
right now than I know about almost any
28:19
right now than I know about almost any
28:21
country that dominated the talk.
28:21
country that dominated the talk.
28:24
It it's always been his most important thing
28:24
It it it's always been his most important
28:26
for the reason why it's the most important
28:26
thing for the reason why it's the most
28:28
thing.
28:29
important thing for Xi, the reunification with Taiwan
28:31
is the semiconductors, which has to do with
28:34
artificial intelligence.
28:36
And again, I believe that's why Donald Trump
28:38
went.
28:39
You know, one thing a lot of people
28:41
on the left were doing is they were
28:43
saying, Well, he's taking all the CEOs, Elon
28:45
Musk and all these others.
28:47
Did you happen to see any of that
28:48
conversation, Matt?
28:50
Yeah, and the reason they took Elon Musk
28:52
is when Elon Musk does an enormous amount
28:54
of business in China, so it would make
28:57
sense to bring someone like him.
28:59
Um I think it was the CEO of
29:01
Nvidia he brought as well, and again, that's
29:02
the biggest chip company on the planet.
29:04
So it it makes perfect sense you bring
29:05
them.
29:06
Well, he brought a lot of CEOs, and
29:08
the left was going nuts about it.
29:10
And then they they say that the CEOs
29:12
did nothing.
29:14
They couldn't get anything from China, so it
29:15
was a failure.
29:16
So which one do you want it?
29:17
Which way do you want it?
29:19
Him not taking them or them going and
29:20
not getting anything.
29:22
It you know, it just doesn't make any
29:23
sense.
29:25
I would say this that the last time
29:27
a president went to China was Donald Trump
29:29
in 2017, and he had more CEOs with
29:31
him then than he did on this trip.
29:34
And nobody seemed to talk about it then.
29:36
Let's continue on with this uh clip about
29:38
Taiwan and the chips that Donald Trump was
29:40
talking about with Brett Banner.
29:42
Yeah, I knew him years ago.
29:43
I've known him now 11 years, 12 years.
29:46
Uh it's always been the biggest thing for
29:47
him, Taiwan.
29:49
Now, with me, I don't think they'll do
29:51
anything when I'm here.
29:53
When I'm not here, I think they might,
29:54
to be honest with you.
29:56
So I've I'm not sure that they do
29:58
anything if it remained as is.
30:00
But they have somebody there now that wants
30:02
to go independent.
30:03
Well, it's a risky thing when you go
30:05
independent, you know, they're going independent because they
30:07
want to get into a war and they
30:09
want to they figure they have a United
30:10
States behind them.
30:12
Uh I'd like to see it stay the
30:13
way it is.
30:15
And I'll tell you something.
30:16
I'll make a little news.
30:17
I'd like to see everybody making chips over
30:19
in Taiwan come into America, because to be
30:20
honest with you, I think it's the greatest
30:22
thing you can do.
30:24
Because it's a heated situation.
30:25
There's no question about it.
30:27
And uh as you know, we have uh
30:29
massive amounts of chip companies now from Taiwan
30:31
already coming in.
30:34
We expect to have 40 to 50 percent
30:35
of the world chip business by the end
30:37
of my term.
30:38
And that is so important.
30:40
If you go back to the first trip
30:42
Donald Trump took as president, he went to
30:44
the Middle East, he brought back trillions of
30:46
dollars, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and others, and that
30:48
money was for semiconductors and chips here in
30:50
America.
30:53
A lot of it was, probably half of
30:54
that money of those trillions were for that
30:56
reason.
30:57
Now we have all these data centers going
30:59
up and things like that.
31:00
But if you are able to create the
31:03
chips and the semiconductors here in America for
31:07
the intelligence explosion that we are at the
31:10
dawn of, then you take away China's uh
31:13
desire for Taiwan, which alleviates that problem.
31:16
So that's another key thing to this trip,
31:18
and I really believe it was the reason
31:20
for this trip.
31:22
There were other things along the way, and
31:24
uh I guess that uh Xi has agreed
31:26
to buy soybeans and uh L and G
31:28
and oil from America, which would be great
31:30
if it ever happens.
31:33
I would remind everyone again that it was
31:35
Xi that agreed to buy more soybeans from
31:38
America last year when there was the tariff
31:40
and the trade war going on.
31:43
He agreed to buy 14 billion dollars worth
31:44
of soybeans.
31:46
He actually the China actually bought two billion
31:47
dollars.
31:49
So again, China cheats, lies, and steals.
31:52
They don't believe anything that they actually say
31:54
because it it probably won't come to pass.
31:57
Uh so that's the way I see this
31:59
Chinese trip.
32:00
And I I do have a couple of
32:02
other clips.
32:03
Let's go to ABC.
32:06
Um actually that's Iran.
32:07
So let's g save Stepanopoulos here for a
32:09
few more minutes.
32:11
And let's go to um this with Brett
32:14
Bear, another follow-up clip with Brett Bear.
32:17
You know, when you look at the odds,
32:20
China's a very, very powerful big country.
32:22
That's a very small island.
32:24
It's uh you think of it, it's 59
32:27
miles away, 59 miles.
32:29
Uh we're 9,500 miles away.
32:32
Uh that's a little bit of a difficult
32:34
problem.
32:37
This answer sort of bothered me a little
32:39
bit also.
32:41
And again, I don't know if that's one
32:43
of those answers that you were talking about
32:45
that just take some pressure off of China
32:47
and Xi, but I don't know that you
32:50
want to give up the leverage of defending
32:52
Taiwan when you're 59 miles away uh from
32:54
China, the big country with the big military.
32:57
With all of that uh being said, you
32:59
know, if you look at the history of
33:01
Taiwan, Taiwan was uh developed because we had
33:03
presidents that didn't know what the hell they
33:05
were doing, because if they would have put
33:08
tariffs on chips coming in, it would they
33:10
would have never left.
33:12
Everything was about Intel, and everything was about
33:14
our chip companies.
33:16
They stole our chip industry.
33:18
So I've said that for years.
33:20
I said, you know, for years they stole
33:21
our chip.
33:22
If we would have had one of our
33:24
presidents just say, we're gonna say, we're gonna
33:26
put a hundred percent chip.
33:28
You can leave, you can build in Taiwan,
33:29
but we're gonna you sell it back into
33:30
the United States.
33:32
We're gonna put a hundred percent or two
33:33
hundred percent tariff.
33:34
We would have never lost a chip.
33:36
We lost the chip industry.
33:38
It's all coming back.
33:39
And I do say this.
33:40
Uh Taiwan would be very smart to cool
33:44
it a little bit.
33:47
China would be very smart to cool it
33:48
a little bit.
33:49
They ought to both cool it.
33:51
He wants them both to cool it, Matt.
33:53
And another part of this trip was about
33:55
Iran, too.
33:56
And let's get to Iran.
33:58
It looks like this thing is uh just
34:00
not really going anywhere.
34:02
Unfortunately, yeah.
34:03
It seems like we're gonna uh eight dollar
34:04
gas pretty soon at this rate.
34:06
Yeah, it's four dollars and fifty cents.
34:08
That's gonna have an effect on what happens
34:10
in the midterm if that doesn't come down.
34:12
And you and I have both consistently said
34:14
this from the beginning of this conflict that
34:17
when it is over and the Strait of
34:19
Hormuz is opened up, the gas prices are
34:21
gonna come down really quick and really low.
34:24
There's a lot of oil.
34:25
From what I understand, Iran is pumping oil
34:27
on the ground now, so uh they're trying
34:29
to keep those rigs pumping.
34:31
They don't want to turn them off because
34:33
they may not ever come back on.
34:34
But let's listen to this clip here of
34:37
former defense secretary Robert Gates, who was on
34:39
a Sunday show.
34:42
He was on CBS with Margaret Brennan.
34:44
The last time we spoke, last spring, we
34:47
were just weeks away from that U.S.
34:50
Israeli strike on the three nuclear sites in
34:52
Iran.
34:54
You said at that time, it was May.
34:57
When you were defense secretary, you were concerned
34:59
that a strike on the nuclear program would
35:00
A strike on the nuclear program would just
35:02
just buy time, a year or two, but
35:02
buy time, a year or two, but it
35:04
it would not solve the problem.
35:04
would not solve the problem.
35:06
Do you still believe that?
35:06
Do you still believe that?
35:08
I think the only way that we are
35:09
I think the only way that we are
35:12
likely to get the enriched uranium out of
35:12
likely to get the enriched uranium out of
35:15
out of Iran and uh bring about an
35:15
to out of Iran and uh bring about
35:18
an end uh to their nuclear aspirations is
35:18
end uh to their nuclear aspirations is through
35:21
through a negotiation.
35:21
a negotiation.
35:25
Is it possible for the president of the
35:25
Is it possible for the president of the
35:26
United States to walk away and leave this
35:27
United States to walk away and leave this
35:28
for the
35:29
for the Israelis to settle?
35:32
No, I don't think he can walk away.
35:35
And no, I don't think the Israelis can
35:36
settle it.
35:38
Um I don't think as powerful as they
35:40
are, that they don't have the kind of
35:42
power the United States has.
35:45
And I think the president seems to have
35:47
been very consistent and very clear that under
35:49
no circumstances can Iran ever have a nuclear
35:52
bomb.
35:54
Well, the only way you get to that
35:57
objective is resolving this issue of the enriched
36:01
uranium and any future plans uh for um
36:04
for enrichment.
36:08
You know, Matt, a lot of people have
36:10
different ideas about former Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
36:13
But if you listen to him, he sounds
36:14
like he is on board with what Trump
36:16
has done.
36:18
The decision has been made, he's gone in
36:19
there.
36:20
Uh we have done what we have done,
36:22
and he's saying we have to finish it.
36:24
And I have a little bit more uh
36:26
from him in that same interview.
36:27
But what are your thoughts there on Robert
36:30
Gates and uh his comments to Margaret Brennan?
36:34
Well, he's right that we have to finish
36:34
it.
36:35
If we were to, you know, half ass
36:37
it or outsource it's Israel or some other
36:39
country, it shows uh enormous amount of weakened
36:41
the center apart, and it makes everything Trump
36:44
did look like a bluff.
36:46
So yeah, there is no choice.
36:48
Well, let's let him finish up because he
36:51
talks about uh the good things that Donald
36:53
Trump and this mission has accomplished, and he
36:55
thinks that what Donald Trump has said from
36:58
the very beginning was very clear, contrary to
37:00
what Margaret Brennan and the left want you
37:03
to believe about Iran and Donald Trump and
37:05
his administration.
37:07
Listen to former Defense Secretary Robert Gates here.
37:19
I think that there were some unrealistic expectations.
37:23
Have you heard a clearly articulated sort of
37:26
center of gravity of this operation, an end
37:28
goal, uh a strategy?
37:31
Well, I think some of the justifications have
37:33
have changed over time, but one thing I
37:35
think there have been a few things that
37:37
have been consistent from the very beginning.
37:40
One is um to eliminate Iran's ability to
37:42
have a nuclear weapon.
37:46
Another is to uh eliminate their uh military
37:50
capabilities uh to attack their neighbors.
37:54
The third is to uh eliminate the capability
37:57
to support their surrogates, the Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis,
38:00
uh to sink their Navy.
38:04
Uh I think those are all those were
38:06
have all been articulated as objectives of this
38:08
operation.
38:11
And uh although the nuclear program has been
38:13
dramatically damaged and set back a long time,
38:16
I think those other things uh a lot
38:19
has been accomplished.
38:22
I think I agree with him on everything
38:24
that he said.
38:25
I see it the way that he does.
38:26
I think that the mission has been pretty
38:28
clearly stated.
38:30
No nuclear weapons.
38:31
We want to do some damage to what
38:34
they can do to the other Arab nations,
38:36
including Israel, and they have done that.
38:38
They sunk the Navy.
38:39
Those things have been done, and I think
38:41
Robert Gates is right on track there with
38:43
what he just said.
38:44
I mean, there's there's no denying we've made
38:46
an enormous amount of progress.
38:48
I mean, the unfortunate reality for Trump is
38:50
that we can't, you know, show people what
38:52
the counterfactual is.
38:54
We we can't um, you know, uh show
38:56
the from the perspective of God, you know,
38:58
turn back the clock and say, okay, here's
39:00
what the world will look like if Trump
39:02
didn't do this, and guess what?
39:04
Twenty years from now they launch a nuclear
39:06
weapon and hundreds of thousands of people die.
39:09
Uh when you when you the thing is
39:11
when you prevent a tragedy down the road,
39:13
no one knows you prevented a tragedy.
39:15
So from the perspective of voters, it's just
39:17
high gas prices and chaos.
39:18
Uh you don't you don't get to see
39:20
the counterfactual that's unfortunate.
39:21
I want to go to a report that
39:23
the New York Times put out, and it
39:25
is being repeated in other publications.
39:27
Now they said that intelligence findings from early
39:30
May show Iran has regained operational access to
39:33
most of most of its missile sites, including
39:36
30 of the 33 missile sites along the
39:38
Strait of Hormuz, citing people familiar with the
39:41
assessments.
39:44
The newspaper said Iran still possesses roughly 70%
39:48
of its pre-war missile stockpile and mobile launchers.
39:51
And I don't know how in the world
39:53
that's even possible.
39:54
So consider the source there in the New
39:56
York Times.
39:57
Watch for that narrative to come from the
39:59
mainstream media, but know that uh Robert Gates
40:02
agrees with what Donald Trump's is say is
40:04
saying and what he is doing.
40:06
And I think we just have to have
40:08
patience here, continue to have patience.
40:10
The gas prices will come down when this
40:12
is resolved.
40:13
Hopefully we will pray for resolution quickly.
40:16
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41:59
Let's get into Cuba.
42:00
Cuba.
42:00
Matt, you remember when Venezuela happened and Maduro
42:00
Matt, you remember when Venezuela happened and Maduro
42:02
was uh captured, brought back to New York,
42:02
was uh captured, brought back to New York,
42:05
where he now will face uh uh the
42:05
where he now will face uh uh the
42:07
the jury and the judge and and probably
42:07
the jury and the judge and and probably
42:09
uh spend the rest of his life in
42:09
uh spend the rest of his life in
42:12
a jail somewhere in America.
42:12
a jail somewhere in America.
42:14
Well, we turned our attention to Cuba because
42:14
Well, we turned our attention to Cuba because
42:17
they got all of their oil from Venezuela.
42:17
they got all of their oil from Venezuela.
42:21
They have no oil and they have no
42:21
They have no oil and they have no
42:22
electricity.
42:22
electricity.
42:24
And we saw Jay Paul a couple of
42:24
And we saw Jay Paul a couple of
42:26
weeks ago where she announced that she is
42:26
weeks ago where she announced that she is
42:27
trying to help the
42:28
trying to help the Cuban country going against
42:30
the 60-year embargo that has been in place
42:32
forever.
42:34
When that's a whole other story.
42:36
We really didn't touch on that at the
42:37
time, but it happened.
42:38
Let's go to this news nation report that
42:40
was filed Friday night.
42:42
And listen to this about Cuba, what is
42:44
going on there?
42:46
Cuba is facing extreme fuel shortages and growing
42:49
unrest, and a rare visit from the CIA
42:53
director as pressure on the communist government intensifies.
42:56
CIA director John Radcliffe traveled to Havana on
42:59
Thursday for meetings with Cuba's Interior Minister and
43:01
the intelligence chief, Ratcliffe, putting pressure on Cuban
43:03
officials to stabilize the country's economy and work
43:06
with the Trump administration on security and economic
43:08
issues.
43:11
The talks come as the Trump administration continues
43:13
ramping up the pressure on Cuba, including what
43:15
Politico has described as a de facto fuel
43:17
embargo following the U.S.
43:19
operation targeting former Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro earlier
43:22
this year.
43:24
Cuba is now dealing with several diesel shortages
43:26
and widespread blackouts, with some parts of Havana
43:28
reportedly losing power for more than 20 hours
43:30
a day.
43:33
The crisis is spilling into the streets.
43:35
Protesters in Havana have been banging pots, blocking
43:37
roads, and demanding electricity as frustration grows over
43:39
the collapsing power grid.
43:42
We talked with a former U.S.
43:43
intelligence official who says that the threat that
43:46
Cuba is posing is only growing.
43:48
It's quickly becoming a threat to the U.S.,
43:51
not only from a military standpoint, but also
43:54
because the infrastructure is falling apart.
43:58
We may have and we may see something
44:00
somewhat of what we saw in the early
44:02
80s, a max exodus of humans trying to
44:04
reach the U.S.
44:06
They may claim that they that the U.S.
44:09
is the bad guy, but for many years,
44:12
for 67 years, it's been a communist country
44:15
that has denied a Cubans freedom to elect
44:18
who they want to be their politician.
44:21
But Cuba's ambassador to the U.S.
44:22
is pushing back, saying, quote, we are not
44:24
a threat to the U.S., we are a
44:26
small island that wants only to be left
44:27
alone to decide our future.
44:29
But if illegal aliens come into America from
44:32
Cuba, then it is a national security risk.
44:36
Matt, what do you make of this in
44:37
Cuba?
44:38
We kind of called it.
44:39
We knew this was coming.
44:40
I really thought it would have already happened,
44:42
but it seems like everything happens a little
44:43
bit slower than I wanted or predicted, either
44:45
way.
44:47
Well, you know, we had a policy for
44:49
many decades in this country where if a
44:51
Cuban just showed up on our soil, we
44:53
would take them in because we assume they
44:55
were a political refugee or something of that
44:57
sort.
44:59
They were fleeing communism.
45:01
Uh it was actually Joe Biden who ended
45:03
that policy.
45:04
And it seems crazy.
45:07
Like, why would the guy who opened up
45:09
America's borders to the entire rest of the
45:11
world then for some reason deny it to
45:13
Cuba?
45:15
Well, you look at how they vote in
45:16
Miami, and it makes quite a lot of
45:18
sense.
45:19
But it was entirely politically motivated.
45:21
He knew that if they became citizens down
45:23
the line, they would break 60, 40 or
45:24
70, 30 Republican and then got rid of
45:26
that.
45:28
So I I guess for once we can
45:30
thank Joe Biden for potentially helping us on
45:32
a border issue.
45:34
Uh, but we'll be you know, the argument
45:36
I hear a lot that and these are
45:38
liberals justifying illegal immigration.
45:40
They'll say things like, well, we messed up
45:42
their home country, so they had no choice
45:43
to come here.
45:45
And my my response is always okay.
45:48
First of all, citing the example of the
45:49
country we screwed up and how many people
45:51
we brought in.
45:52
Second of all, what their neighbors couldn't take
45:54
them in?
45:56
I mean, there's what a hundred and eighty
45:57
plus countries.
45:58
Uh uh less than two hundred.
46:00
But there's a lot of countries in the
46:02
world that they could go to besides the
46:03
U.S.
46:05
And third of all, we're allowed to say
46:06
no.
46:08
Even if it was objectively the case that
46:10
we caused a refugee crisis in a country,
46:12
logically speaking, why would you want to take
46:14
a population that hates you because of what
46:16
you did?
46:19
So I just don't buy uh their arguments
46:20
for that reason.
46:22
And I I don't think we're gonna see
46:23
a humanitarian crisis if we try to fix
46:24
Cuba.
46:26
I mean, you can't get worse than communism.
46:29
No.
46:29
And people on the left, they seem to
46:31
forget the Cuban Missile Crisis and what was
46:33
happening way back then.
46:35
Let's go to Marco Rubio and some comments
46:37
he made on Cuba on Air Force One
46:38
recently.
46:40
Let's listen to this.
46:42
In the case of Cuba is a very
46:43
different situation.
46:44
There is no economy in Cuba.
46:47
The to the extent there's any wealth in
46:48
Cuba, it doesn't go it doesn't forget about
46:50
it doesn't go to the people.
46:51
It doesn't even go to the government.
46:53
The wealth is controlled by a private, by
46:55
a company owned by military generals.
46:57
They take all the money.
46:58
They're sitting on billions of dollars.
47:00
Okay, this is a country where people are
47:02
literally now eating garbage from the streets.
47:04
But they have a company that controls all
47:06
of the money making there that's sitting on
47:08
15, 16 billion dollars.
47:10
So it's a broken, non-functional economy.
47:13
And then you have to ask the question
47:15
what will happen when it finally does collapse?
47:17
Who is going to be in charge there?
47:20
You hear a lot of different things.
47:22
You know that the people of Cuba want
47:24
to create their own government, but then you
47:26
could end up with another Haiti.
47:28
Let's be honest about it.
47:30
Yeah, I mean, in the issue in the
47:32
um huge example, though, the they he murdered
47:34
the entire host population that was uh, you
47:36
know, knew how to run the place.
47:38
So they kind of shot themselves in the
47:39
foot there.
47:41
Um, you know, I I can't think of
47:43
any examples of a of a communist country
47:45
giving up communism and then things getting worse.
47:48
The only sort of exception would be, you
47:50
know, there being a rocky transition for a
47:52
few years where there's gonna be turbulence where
47:54
certain government agencies uh you know no longer
47:56
exist, and those people don't have jobs for
47:58
you know a few months or years or
48:00
whatever.
48:02
But in the long run, you know, 10
48:04
years out, things are always way better.
48:06
I think America is ratcheting up the pressure
48:09
on Cuba right now because there is an
48:11
indictment coming for the brother of Fidel Castro.
48:14
He's now 94 years old.
48:16
His name is Raul Castro.
48:18
Let's listen to this from News Nation, another
48:20
part of that report I played earlier.
48:22
Intentions may grow even more as the U.S.
48:25
is eyeing an indictment against former Cuban president
48:29
Raul Castro, saying it's tied to the 1996
48:32
downing of humanitarian aid planes in the country.
48:36
Now it's not clear on the timing of
48:38
that, but people familiar with it say that
48:40
it's eminent and could happen anytime.
48:43
Have you heard anything about that, Matt, or
48:44
is that news to you?
48:46
I heard that it's both eminent and could
48:47
happen at any time.
48:50
It's pretty good clarifying.
48:51
Yeah.
48:52
Um I saw this wall.
48:54
I mean, I think it's almost comical that
48:55
we're going after a 94-year-old, but it it
48:57
shows that we don't forget, and you're you
48:59
really cannot escape us, and we're not we're
49:00
Really cannot escape us, and we're not we're
49:00
not gonna uh um let anyone get away
49:01
not gonna uh um let anyone get away
49:02
with anything.
49:02
with anything.
49:04
Well, it's a 30 year crime allegedly, but
49:04
Well, it's a 30-year crime allegedly, but is
49:06
yeah, is it uh more for messaging here
49:06
it uh more for messaging here for the
49:08
for the people of Cuba?
49:08
people of Cuba?
49:11
I think that's what it is.
49:11
I think that's what it is.
49:12
That's why I said kind of set it
49:12
That's why I said kind of set it
49:14
up that way that this is about something
49:14
up that way that this is about something
49:16
more than just indicting a 94 year old
49:17
more than just indicting a 94-year-old who happened
49:18
who happened to be president of Cuba at
49:19
to be president of Cuba at one time.
49:19
one time.
49:21
This is messaging.
49:21
This is messaging.
49:23
This is decapitating the top.
49:23
This is decapitating the top.
49:25
This is doing uh an end to the
49:25
This is doing uh an end to the
49:27
Castros who brought.
49:28
Castros who brought in communism into the country.
49:31
Yeah, I don't mean to imply that like
49:32
90 year olds the laws don't apply to
49:34
the last year.
49:35
No, I didn't take it that way.
49:36
But you're right, yeah.
49:37
No, you made a good point, but I
49:39
just think that it means more than they
49:41
hey, by the way, we're going after 94-year-old
49:43
Castro here.
49:46
There is a message here in this indictment.
49:48
I believe that's why the DOJ is going
49:50
to do this indictment.
49:51
So watch for that as she said it's
49:52
imminent.
49:54
So look for it this week.
49:55
Who knows when that will come?
49:57
Let's remember the Keystone pipeline for a moment,
49:59
and way back when Obama was president, and
50:02
you had Doug Bergram, who had just become
50:04
the governor of the state of North Dakota
50:06
when this happened.
50:09
Do you remember all of that happening?
50:10
It's been a while.
50:11
It's been 10, 11, 12 years ago.
50:13
Well, fine.
50:14
Yeah, you remember it?
50:15
I was going to say that was like
50:17
the environmental issue of the Obama era.
50:19
That was uh just the recurring thing they
50:21
were obsessed with more than anything.
50:23
And Obama was uh encouraging it.
50:25
He was putting his finger on it.
50:27
He was using people like Greenpeace.
50:29
Well, there was a big uh big court
50:32
uh uh trial, and Greenpeace was fined 345
50:35
million dollars over that.
50:38
And that's how long it takes for justice
50:40
to come to America for those of you
50:43
who are uh giving up on the 2020
50:45
election and uh the Russian hoax.
50:48
Well, here's an example of something that took
50:49
10 years.
50:51
Let's go to this.
50:51
This is Bill Hammer on Fox News with
50:53
Doug Bergram.
50:55
Governor of North Dakota at that time.
50:57
Well, what do you remember?
50:58
Well, Bill, I I took office on December
51:01
15th of November 16th, and at that time
51:03
there was thousands of protesters camping illegally on
51:05
federal land.
51:08
Uh this this protest, there was a separate
51:10
trial that showed that the Obama administration, which
51:12
was still in office that time was uh
51:14
putting their thumb on the scale on the
51:17
bus on the side of the protesters.
51:19
And this was uh this hurt it hurt
51:21
the tribe, it hurt their casino, it hurt
51:23
their their revenues.
51:25
Uh the local ranchers and farmers are being
51:27
terrorized.
51:28
The law was being broken every possible which
51:32
way, not just trespassing, but human trafficking, sex
51:35
trafficking, drug trafficking, uh ATF issues, arms issues.
51:39
I mean, this place was a toxic mix
51:41
uh of protests, all in there grifting and
51:43
trying to uh grab national attention, and I'd
51:45
say today's ruling uh is for the really
51:48
for the rule of law.
51:50
I mean, in North Dakota, we understand free
51:52
speech, we support free speech, uh, but there's
51:55
a difference between free speech and violence.
51:57
Uh, and I think this is uh a
51:59
timely, uh a timely and appropriate uh outcome
52:00
from the jury.
52:03
Again, it was 345 million dollars that the
52:05
judge put on Greenpeace for that.
52:08
Do you remember all of that when that
52:09
was going on, Matt?
52:10
Um, yeah.
52:11
Um, as I was saying, it was kind
52:14
of like the you know, the number one
52:16
climate issue of the day back back bang.
52:18
Um I I don't even remember what ended
52:19
up happening.
52:20
Didn't Trump end up giving it a uh
52:22
green stand like a green light?
52:24
Yeah, well, the Keystone pipeline, from what I
52:26
understand now from the people I talk to
52:29
in the oil and gas industry, it's probably
52:31
too expensive to make it effective in actually
52:33
working and bringing oil from the Alberta region
52:36
of Canada.
52:38
The Alberta region of Canada, having talked to
52:40
people there on this show before, they are
52:43
trying to find a company that will bring
52:45
it back.
52:48
Donald Trump has said if we can find
52:49
a company that wants to do it again
52:51
and can make it cost effective for bringing
52:53
the oil to America, by all means we'll
52:55
do it.
52:57
But I know Donald Trump is working on
52:58
deregulating things so that we can pump the
53:00
oil that's in our ground.
53:02
We have a lot of it.
53:04
Let's go to something AOC said.
53:06
By the way, she happens to be the
53:08
front runner for 2028 for the Democrats.
53:11
That's scary.
53:12
That's scary.
53:13
Here's what she said about gerrymandering quote it
53:15
is time for the North to pull up
53:17
to the South.
53:20
It is time for New York to pull
53:21
up to Alabama.
53:23
It is time for all of us to
53:25
come to Georgia, to Louisiana, to Tennessee, to
53:28
Mississippi, and let them know exactly what they
53:31
have uncorked with this injustice.
53:34
The injustice was the way that the maps
53:37
were previously gerrymandered in racism.
53:40
And this is this is just uh uh
53:42
amazing to me that AOC is speaking these
53:45
types of things.
53:47
And she's not alone, it's everybody on the
53:49
left, and she is, I guess, now the
53:50
leader of the Democrat Party.
53:52
Is she?
53:53
Uh seemingly so.
53:55
There's this quote that I used to see
53:57
liberals um a lot.
53:59
And I I think it was actually originally
54:01
a Thomas quote, and they didn't realize, but
54:03
when they would lecture us about racism, they
54:05
would say things like um, you know, when
54:07
when you're accustomed to special treatment, equality seems
54:09
like oppression.
54:11
And they were trying to like shame white
54:13
people that were against Black Lives Matter.
54:16
But it's just such a funny quote because
54:18
that also applies to every scene they come
54:21
up with, like affirmative action or or having
54:24
racially gerrymandered districts where we're literally just saying,
54:27
no, you you can't rig elections based on
54:29
race, and they're saying that's racism.
54:32
Well, no, what you were doing was the
54:33
racism.
54:34
We're the ones undoing it.
54:36
Yeah, that was nuts, isn't it?
54:37
Let's go to your senator there in New
54:39
Jersey, Corey Booker.
54:41
He had uh a nice comment.
54:43
And did you maybe you didn't see this?
54:44
We're coming up on the end of the
54:46
hour, but I want to sneak this in
54:47
here real quick.
54:48
Senator Corey Books Booker says marijuana is safer
54:51
than McDonald's French fries.
54:55
He argues that fast food is heavily addictive
54:58
and causes serious health problems.
55:01
Yet cannabis is the one that gets banned.
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That is your senator, by the way.
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That's Senator Corey Booker.
55:09
He is making big headlines there in Washington,
55:10
D.C.
55:12
as he does things for people like you
55:13
sitting there in New Jersey.
55:15
He's a joke, and I think he also
55:17
wants to be on that presidential stage.
55:20
There's no chance he's ever gonna get there.
55:22
I also hear that Kamala Harris is, you
55:24
know, she's still in the background.
55:26
She still thinks her time is coming in
55:27
2028.
55:29
Matt, I know that you and I both
55:31
believe that will not happen, that it's gonna
55:32
be somebody else.
55:34
I picked a long time ago, I said
55:36
uh as a dark horse, Andy Bashir out
55:38
of Kentucky.
55:39
Well, he's moved from two percent to four
55:41
percent, so don't give up on your bet
55:43
there on your predictive market.
55:46
Uh but Matt, we're to the end of
55:47
this hour.
55:48
What do we look for this week?
55:49
What are you thinking is gonna come up?
55:51
We have this big race in Kentucky on
55:53
Tuesday with Thomas Massey and Ed Galleron.
55:56
Gonna be interesting to watch.
55:57
It will be a litmus test for this
55:59
upcoming primary season.
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Primary season.
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Uh well, I guess to totally steal your
56:01
Uh well, I guess to totally steal your
56:02
answer.
56:02
answer.
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Uh I mean the Thomas Massey erased is
56:03
Uh I mean the Thomas Massey erase is
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what I was gonna say.
56:04
what I was going to say.
56:06
So uh that, and then I ran, I
56:06
So uh that and then I ran, I
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ran, I ran, which I say every week.
56:08
ran, I ran, which I say every week.
56:10
Right.
56:10
Right.
56:10
Yeah.
56:10
You know.
56:11
Everybody does.
56:11
Everybody does.
56:11
Yeah, everybody's talking about Iran and China is
56:11
Yeah, everybody's talking about Iran and China is
56:14
in the rear view mirror now.
56:14
in the rear view mirror now.
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Let's go forward.
56:16
Let's go forward.
56:17
Let's say concentrated on this primary season, and
56:17
Let's say concentrated on this primary season, and
56:19
then the general the midterm election coming up
56:19
then the general the the midterm election coming
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up in November.
56:21
in November.
56:24
Matt, have a great week.
56:24
Matt, have a great week.
56:25
We'll do it again next Monday night.
56:25
We'll do it again next Monday night.
56:27
Thank you so much as always for coming
56:27
Thank you so much, as always, for coming
56:28
on the program.
56:28
on the program.
56:29
I
56:29
I appreciate it.
56:30
Yeah, see you all next week.
56:32
And don't forget that you were told two
56:33
thousand years ago that you are the salt
56:35
of the earth, and salt without flavor, it
56:37
has no value.
56:39
So whatever you do, keep being salty.
56:41
Have a great night.
56:42
There is only one truth.
56:44
You've been listening to The Truth Be Told
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with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.