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The Philadelphia Experiment (Repost) · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 2: founded by Macaulay Culkin.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I know. I got some friends over there too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I still haven't figured out exactly what that whole thing is.
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Speaker 2: I know so many people who've met Macaulay Culkin this
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Speaker 2: past year. I know.
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Speaker 1: It's really diluting my brand.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that at least.
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Speaker 2: So we're talking about the Philadelphia experiment today.
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Speaker 1: This is when you try to put cream cheese in
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Speaker 1: the tub to make like a sauna.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Because I've tried that too. I thought I could put
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Speaker 1: it on the stones like water and just enjoy it
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Speaker 1: like being a thick velvety fog. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Or when you throw batteries at the opposing team
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Speaker 2: during an important playoff game.
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Speaker 1: I like calling throwing batteries an experiment. What?
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Speaker 2: We're just wearing a helmet. What's it going to hurt?
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Speaker 1: We're gauging results. There's some science taking place. Yeah, Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: This is a pretty big one we haven't gotten to yet.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting one.
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Speaker 2: I've known the phrase the Philadelphia experiment for a long time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which was no condoms. Just one night. It'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: And I couldn't figure out why, like where I had
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Speaker 2: heard this from. There was a movie in 84. I
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Speaker 2: would have been eight years old.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: So there was a movie in 1984 called The Philadelphia Experiment,
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Speaker 2: which is about this case, which this one feels like
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Speaker 2: some bullshit to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a bit out there. I mean, and it's,
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Speaker 1: you know, 80s, being 80s movied, doesn't it really do
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Speaker 1: you a lot of favors?
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Speaker 2: No. No.
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Speaker 1: In terms of your conspiracies brand. Because it's like, that's
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Speaker 1: before we could really, that was when we really couldn't
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Speaker 1: make movies that well. You know?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We kind of forgot how to make movies for 10
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Speaker 1: years in the 1980s.
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Speaker 2: We forgot a lot. Like, musicians stopped knowing how to be.
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Speaker 1: Good in the 80s. It was kind of like wallpaper
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Speaker 1: music was sort of popular a lot of it. You know? Like,
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Speaker 1: yacht rock type stuff.
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Speaker 2: Like Christopher Cross. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, it's not really like, you know, that's like
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Speaker 1: if they did JFK on Crackle. You know, and you'd
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm not taking this anymore seriously, Mr. Stone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this, I guess the Philadelphia Experiment starred Michael Paré. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Do you know who that is?
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Speaker 1: No idea.
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Speaker 2: He was an actor from the 80s, which tracks, because
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Speaker 2: it's a movie from the 80s. And the Philadelphia Experiment
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Speaker 2: is alleged to be the culmination of something called Project Rainbow,
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Speaker 2: which was a military.
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Speaker 1: Man, so many. They're really just trying to make it
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Speaker 1: hard for me to not just keep doing bad Tom
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Speaker 1: Hanks jokes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It launched in the early 1940s as an attempt
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Speaker 2: to make a ship invisible to enemy radar.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It seems like when they were starting to, you know,
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Speaker 1: making these directives or these kind of programs, it was like,
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Speaker 1: it was as though they just had some general go like,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if we could make a flying tank?
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Speaker 1: You want to take 12 years and kill 400 black
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Speaker 1: guys to see if we can make tanks fly?
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Speaker 2: You know, sure.
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Speaker 1: We sure do. Can I have complete insulation from all
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Speaker 1: regulating forces? Duh.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. How much money do you need?
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Speaker 1: Zero, zero, zero, zero. One Jeff Bezos divorce settlement, please.
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Speaker 2: So on August 12th, 1943, or October 28th, 1943, depending
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Speaker 2: on who you ask.
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Speaker 1: What is this, a fish concert where they covered some
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Speaker 1: song they only did once? The U.S.
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Speaker 2: Navy conducted a test of some sort on the USS
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Speaker 2: Eldridge at the Philadelphia Navy Yard. And the exact nature
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Speaker 2: of this test has never been officially stated. Possibilities include
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Speaker 2: magnetic invisibility, radar invisibility, optical invisibility. Or degaussing, which means
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Speaker 2: rendering the ship immune to magnetic mines.
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Speaker 1: Now that one's, I don't, how do you do that?
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Speaker 1: Do you just, you have some big magnet down in
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Speaker 1: the poop deck and you go turn it around and
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Speaker 1: then all the guys crank it to the other direction
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Speaker 1: and push them away?
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Speaker 2: I've only ever heard degaussing in the context of computer monitors.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was something to do with like
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Speaker 1: a matte finish or like some sort of, you know,
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Speaker 1: like a finish, like a texture of a surface.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked at Target years and years ago when
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Speaker 2: I still lived in South Dakota, and I was emailing
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Speaker 2: this coworker of mine. And she emailed me back and
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Speaker 2: said something about how long it took her to email back.
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Speaker 2: And she said, sorry, my screen was degaussing. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck does that mean?
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Speaker 1: That's very, like a car in the snow. I got
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Speaker 1: to warm up the HP and degauss the screen. That's weird.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super weird. And she said it just
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Speaker 2: meant like flashing on and off, but I don't.
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Speaker 1: Okay, sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And that's one of those times where it's like you
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Speaker 1: went ahead and used the $ 20 word to look cool
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Speaker 1: when you could have said my screen was being all screwy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Which would have been great.
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Speaker 2: Warming up.
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Speaker 1: Didn't have to make me feel all dumb.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: I hope she's still working at Target.
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Speaker 1: So there's some kind of experiment going on on the
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Speaker 1: USS Eldridge.
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Speaker 2: Some sort of experiment. The tests, allegedly, the results were undesirable,
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Speaker 2: and the project was canceled shortly thereafter. That's the official
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Speaker 2: story of the Philadelphia experiment.
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Speaker 1: Undesirable tests. Were they de-gossing or tom-gossing? Am I right, guys? Hey!
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Speaker 2: Uh the navy claims the test never happened and that
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Speaker 2: the uss eldridge was far away from philadelphia according to
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Speaker 2: ship logs.
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Speaker 1: At a time i've never heard the navy to keep
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Speaker 1: secrets on a boat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's and there's no way you could fake a
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Speaker 2: ship's log in the 1940s i'm sure those were written
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Speaker 2: in pencil oh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah the carbon paper and shit the carbon
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Speaker 1: i was talking about i was having a conversation with
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Speaker 1: my grandparents as i often do oh sure for such
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Speaker 1: a uh For such a shitty tyrant, I visit my
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Speaker 1: grandmother a lot. And she was like, we were talking
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Speaker 1: about carbon paper. And I was like, carbon copy. Is
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Speaker 1: a phrase, and we don't even really use or discuss
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Speaker 1: or know the technology behind the phrase anymore, but we
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Speaker 1: still say carbon copy, even though most people wouldn't know
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Speaker 1: that's the blue paper that goes underneath the typewriter sheet.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of weird.
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Speaker 2: When I was in school, I'm old enough that there
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Speaker 2: were still times where teachers would have to, like, use
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Speaker 2: a hand-cranked thing to print shit out.
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Speaker 1: Oh, a mimeograph.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would, like, come out cold or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and it's like a big drum.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was all very weird.
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Speaker 1: Very weird.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad we got past that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Like this morning I was doing notes and I spelled
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Speaker 2: something wrong because I type super fast and I just,
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Speaker 2: you just right click it to fix it. Like back
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Speaker 2: in the day, like I took a typing class in
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Speaker 2: high school.
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Speaker 1: Fucking Ben Franklin had to go and like get his
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Speaker 1: little like eight year old fingers fucked up trying to
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Speaker 1: move the R to the L.
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Speaker 2: Or use white out. Yeah. Fucking painting inside your typewriter. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But now it's so much easier.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, whiteout. Who's used whiteout in hundreds of years?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're not dropping that in a
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Speaker 2: paper bag and inhaling the fumes, why are you even
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Speaker 2: buying whiteout?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be how poppers are VCR cleaner. Whiteout,
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Speaker 1: that's for kids to get high.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So let's talk about the alleged real story
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Speaker 2: behind the Philadelphia experiment.
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Speaker 1: Hear those air quotes we inflected, listener.
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Speaker 2: According to some accounts, the actual results of the test
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Speaker 2: were way weirder than anyone could imagine. The method used
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Speaker 2: to render the ship invisible was to wrap it in
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Speaker 2: something called an electromagnetic bottle, which was created using either
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Speaker 2: two or four massive Tesla coils. that acted as electromagnetic
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Speaker 2: generators i assume everyone's following this so far of course
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Speaker 2: yeah you set up your tesla coils they act as
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Speaker 2: generators it envelops the ship in an electromagnetic bottle.
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Speaker 1: Put them in a pentagram shape or something cool I
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Speaker 1: don't understand how adding four fully charged Pikachus to your
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Speaker 1: battleship makes it less conspicuous. It seems like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we should probably go where that massive electrical storm is
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Speaker 1: showing up.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems counterintuitive to my limited understanding, but let's
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Speaker 1: read on.
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Speaker 2: When activated, the electromagnetic field was supposed to extend out
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Speaker 2: from the ship and divert radar waves around the ship,
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Speaker 2: making it invisible to radar receivers. And this is a thing,
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite things about Trump, and I shouldn't
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Speaker 2: even say favorite because he's a monster who.
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Speaker 1: Well, not one of it. How do you narrow it down?
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. One of Trump's greatest hits. Yeah. One
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Speaker 2: thing I find really interesting is a lot of the
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Speaker 2: craziest shit he says where people are like, that's not true.
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Speaker 2: It's usually true when he just said something he shouldn't have.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's the funniest shit where he's just like, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I mean, we can't. We have to
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Speaker 1: be friends with Saudi Arabia because there's too much money
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Speaker 1: on the table. And it's like oil.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That was like the Jamal Khashoggi shit. He was basically
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Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I mean, it sucks for that guy,
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Speaker 1: but it's kind of sort of bigger than him. We
11:28
Speaker 1: got most of our economy. Who's going to fly the
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Speaker 1: Jews out next terror attack? We set up his team.
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Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. And you're just like, oh, okay.
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Speaker 1: You forgot, which he just doesn't pay attention to any briefing.
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Speaker 1: It's just like, well, let's fucking just say it. Why not?
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Speaker 2: One of the examples I always bring up is when
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Speaker 2: he was in that speech and said, we have invisible planes.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: We have planes that no one can see. And everyone
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Speaker 2: was like, shut the fuck up. But we do.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's not like you're standing.
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Speaker 1: Even if you're just declassified technology, B-2 stealth bomber is
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Speaker 1: pretty damn invisible.
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Speaker 2: Right. Man, the day of the Rose Bowl parade, which
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Speaker 2: would have been New Year's Day, I was walking out
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Speaker 2: of my apartment and it was like nine in the
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Speaker 2: morning and a stealth bomber flew overhead. I was like,
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Speaker 2: what is happening? Way too early. And you're hungover.
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Speaker 1: You still got your tinfoil hat on, you know, and
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Speaker 1: you don't put it together. Yeah. That's the scary, like
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Speaker 1: when that fucking Elon Musk rocket launched.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: I was on the 101 North. I was like halfway
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Speaker 1: from LA to Santa Barbara. So I got like a
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Speaker 1: nice view of it. It was big in the sky
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Speaker 1: where I was. And I was looking at it going,
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Speaker 1: I'm dumb. That may very well be a nuclear missile
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Speaker 1: coming to destroy my family, everyone I've ever known. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, what do I do? I just texted Keith.
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Speaker 1: I hit up my parents like, hey, what's going on?
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Speaker 1: But even then, I should have just been like, hey,
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Speaker 1: if I die, I love you guys. But I was like, dad,
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Speaker 1: do you know what this is?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, whenever I see something like that, just like
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Speaker 2: hashtag the area of Los Angeles you're in. Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: That's what I did.
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Speaker 2: And someone will be like, it's a SpaceX rocket.
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Speaker 1: Dude, that's the only time debunking internet guys come in handy.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I had a good one of those. I had a
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Speaker 1: dude just basically just getting very mad that I said
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Speaker 1: nobody likes the under-the-balls, doggy-style porn angle. And he was like, well,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people actually do. I was like, okay, guy. Congrats.
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Speaker 2: But, yeah, with Trump, we have two jets right now
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Speaker 2: that are– You can't walk up next to it and
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Speaker 2: hit a button and it just disappears. But when they're
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Speaker 2: in the sky, they are in some cases even undetectable
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Speaker 2: to the naked eye. If you look up, you're not
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Speaker 2: going to see it. And that technology exists. So I
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Speaker 2: wouldn't doubt that we were testing something like that. at
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Speaker 2: this time.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure. I mean, it's like, I'm absolutely sure
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Speaker 1: they're trying to be invisible radar and doing goofy shit.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we try every, we always have like a
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Speaker 1: pretty straightforward goal and then we go, but maybe if
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Speaker 1: we've just fed them LSD until they can do it
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Speaker 1: with their brains, you know?
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that comes up, especially in
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Speaker 2: UFO documentaries is, The government will do something and it'll
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Speaker 2: be kind of successful and they'll want to keep working
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Speaker 2: on it. But then someone will like stumble upon it
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Speaker 2: and be like, oh, this is some UFO shit. And
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Speaker 2: I can see a case where we might have even
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Speaker 2: back in 1943 been like, oh, that's pretty cool. That
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Speaker 2: almost worked. Let's tell people it didn't and let people
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Speaker 2: run with these crazy ass stories. And then for years
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Speaker 2: and years and years, no one will know we even
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Speaker 2: have this technology.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just kind of, you know, we'll fucking just. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you just do it below the radar. It's like the
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Speaker 1: SR-71 Blackbird. It still looks like it came out yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It's still cool and futuristic looking, and it was designed
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Speaker 1: in the 50s, used in the 70s. I can only
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Speaker 1: imagine what kind of goofy shit they have now that
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Speaker 1: we're not going to know about until like, whoa, man,
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Speaker 1: could you believe in the 90s they had teleportation or
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Speaker 1: what the fuck ever?
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Speaker 2: So what they claim happened when they tried this test
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Speaker 2: is When the electromagnetic field increased in strength, it began
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Speaker 2: to extend as far out as 100 yards from the
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Speaker 2: ship in all directions. And within this field, the ship
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Speaker 2: became fuzzy and indistinct to onlookers for a bit before
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Speaker 2: finally disappearing altogether. Not just disappeared, but teleported to Norfolk,
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Speaker 2: Virginia for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Because... Who was in Norfolk, Virginia to confirm that?
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Speaker 1: Nobody's testimony on anything in Norfolk, Virginia is valid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's all coast-to-coast AM call-ins where, I think I saw
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Speaker 1: a ghost start. I did a teener of truck drop
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Speaker 1: speed to get my haul through to Denver on schedule,
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Speaker 1: and I'll be goddamned if a battleship didn't drop right
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Speaker 1: into the middle of the 86. And you're like, okay, guys, sure. Aliens,
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Speaker 1: I think, just go to rural areas because it's funny
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Speaker 1: to them. I think they're like, Paul, Paul, it was
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Speaker 1: a plate full of green.
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Speaker 2: Ah!
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Speaker 1: You know, like, that's their bit. That's their little joke.
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Speaker 1: That's their AFV on Mormalk or whatever.
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Speaker 2: And how disappointing would it be if you're going to
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Speaker 2: get teleported, like, Philadelphia to Norfolk, Virginia. That would be like,
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Speaker 2: you get teleported from L.A. and now you're in, like,
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Speaker 2: San Bernardino. It's like, fuck, come on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not even.
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Speaker 2: I could have gone somewhere cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what? Napa Valley's nice this time of year. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Set this ship in the middle of a city. After
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Speaker 2: a few minutes, it vanished from Norfolk and reappeared in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: Oh, convenience.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And that was, at least that part, wildly successful
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Speaker 2: as far as the Navy was concerned because they managed
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Speaker 2: to make it invisible.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it teleported. But a little bit of a nightmare
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Speaker 2: for the crew involved because the ship fell out of
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Speaker 2: phase with the surrounding universe. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Ah, shit.
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Speaker 2: Don't you hate it?
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Speaker 1: And then the guy says he's showing up between four
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Speaker 1: to eight and doesn't get there till nine.
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Speaker 2: And he's talking and the words are coming out later
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Speaker 2: than when his mouth moves.
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Speaker 1: And then that Adam Sandler movie, the out of phase
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Speaker 1: with the universe guy comes over to fix it.
17:16
Speaker 2: When the field was shut off, some of the men
17:20
Speaker 2: on this test found that they were able to walk
17:23
Speaker 2: through solid objects while out of phase, which, again, what
17:26
Speaker 2: would prompt you to even test that?
17:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did they just read the Harry Potter book and
17:31
Speaker 1: try to do platform nine and three quarters because they're
17:35
Speaker 1: all 32-year-old crew cut military dudes? I don't know. This
17:39
Speaker 1: seems out of character.
17:41
Speaker 2: When the field was shut off, some men were found
17:43
Speaker 2: embedded in the walls of the ship.
17:45
Speaker 1: God, that would be creepy, just getting cut in half
17:48
Speaker 1: by a wall because your nightcrawler powers disappeared.
17:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you'd think someone would take one picture of that. Yeah, right?
17:54
Speaker 2: I would definitely want to snap a pic or two.
17:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would back the disposable camera.
18:00
Speaker 2: And some men just went crazy. Some of the crew
18:03
Speaker 2: members disappeared afterwards. One guy was said to have been
18:06
Speaker 2: eating dinner with his family when he suddenly got up,
18:10
Speaker 2: walked through a wall, and never came back.
18:12
Speaker 1: Wow.
18:13
Speaker 2: He's out getting cigarettes in the galaxy now. I know.
18:15
Speaker 1: Fucking the craziest cigarettes of all. Those that exist between
18:20
Speaker 1: the nothingness.
18:21
Speaker 2: They're cheaper there.
18:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where they sell those Newports that have no
18:26
Speaker 1: menthol in them.
18:28
Speaker 2: That took so long to happen.
18:30
Speaker 1: And who wanted it? Who wanted it? That's like Oreos,
18:36
Speaker 1: no filling. Great, Newport.
18:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't imagine anyone was on the sidelines like, man,
18:43
Speaker 2: I can't wait to smoke Newport someday. I know. Who
18:45
Speaker 2: the fuck?
18:46
Speaker 1: What? What bean counting idiot thought that was anything approaching
18:51
Speaker 1: a good idea? Because all that happens is the guys
18:53
Speaker 1: I see smoking are just the dudes going, yeah, they
18:56
Speaker 1: clearance them out at $ 4 a pack because nobody on
18:59
Speaker 1: earth fucking wanted them at all. I'm like, yeah, sure.
19:02
Speaker 1: Of course not. They're non-menthol Newports.
19:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insane. Do they make non-menthol cools yet? I
19:08
Speaker 2: don't know.
19:08
Speaker 1: You could probably buy them from tall Gary Shandling or
19:12
Speaker 1: fucking Gary Coleman. There you go. Gary Shandling and Gary Coleman,
19:15
Speaker 1: pretty different guys.
19:16
Speaker 2: Same difference.
19:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they could walk through walls. They got stuck
19:20
Speaker 1: in walls. They're phasing in and out of the universe.
19:22
Speaker 2: They fucking disappear. There was apparently something called The Freeze.
19:28
Speaker 2: Where crew members would fade from view, unable to move, speak,
19:32
Speaker 2: or otherwise affect their surroundings. Mr.
19:36
Speaker 1: Stark, I don't feel so good.
19:37
Speaker 2: And the only way to fix it was if other
19:41
Speaker 2: crew members who were present on the ship when this
19:44
Speaker 2: happened uh laid hands on this person at one point
19:48
Speaker 2: during this process two men burst into flames and the
19:53
Speaker 2: fire burned for 18 days despite all attempts to put
19:55
Speaker 2: it out wow i feel like we would have known
19:58
Speaker 2: about that i mean maybe it's in the weekly world
20:01
Speaker 2: news from the 40s yeah that same newspaper that pushes
20:05
Speaker 2: bat boy and oh gotcha gotcha people are like oh
20:08
Speaker 2: that's fake Well, yeah, fire, there's smoke.
20:12
Speaker 1: Someone would see the smoke.
20:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
20:14
Speaker 1: You know?
20:15
Speaker 2: Were they outdoors?
20:16
Speaker 1: Was the smoke phasing into another dimension?
20:20
Speaker 2: I wonder if they like, because you would think they
20:22
Speaker 2: would have been indoors when this happened. So you're going
20:25
Speaker 2: to have to move that fire somewhere or unless it's just,
20:28
Speaker 2: it's not burning anything but that body.
20:30
Speaker 1: And also call me an asshole, but aren't ships in water?
20:33
Speaker 1: It seems like you could do something with that. I
20:35
Speaker 1: mean- Get some guys with some buckets and some of
20:39
Speaker 1: those backpack super soakers, you know.
20:41
Speaker 2: Unless if it was a thing where the fire was
20:44
Speaker 2: burning the body but not anything around it, then you
20:47
Speaker 2: just keep that for heat.
20:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, then that's.
20:49
Speaker 2: You save some money on your heating and cooling bills.
20:51
Speaker 1: Yes, you put that.
20:52
Speaker 2: For 18 days.
20:53
Speaker 1: Go haul your crew members down to the engine room
20:55
Speaker 1: and we're going to save a fortune on coal.
20:59
Speaker 2: Any remaining surviving crew members were discharged as mentally unfit
21:04
Speaker 2: for duty. Many were placed in insane asylums. Because of
21:08
Speaker 2: these side effects, the Navy allegedly discontinued any further research
21:12
Speaker 2: into radar and optical invisibility. Or did they, Connor? Did they?
21:17
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like every time the government
21:19
Speaker 1: crosses the line, they really just, they just cut it out.
21:22
Speaker 1: They just don't like to.
21:23
Speaker 2: Yeah. They never keep shit like that going.
21:25
Speaker 1: Nah. Uh, they never go, but what if we electrocute
21:29
Speaker 1: 500 more guys? That's always the, that's always the, uh,
21:33
Speaker 1: scientific methodology. Uh, yeah. I'm looking here at your abstract
21:37
Speaker 1: and it says if, uh, if unsuccessful, maybe we, uh,
21:40
Speaker 1: electrocute some more guys.
21:43
Speaker 2: That is kind of like if this entire story is true, which, uh,
21:48
Speaker 2: I should point out, two-part episode.
21:50
Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:50
Speaker 2: This is a story that carries on until the 80s.
21:54
Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
21:54
Speaker 2: Next week's episode is about the Montauk Project.
21:58
Speaker 1: That was one that I would read about when I
22:00
Speaker 1: was a young boy.
22:02
Speaker 2: It's allegedly the basis for Stranger Things.
22:06
Speaker 1: I forwarded that shit to my friends and my teacher.
22:09
Speaker 1: I thought it was so cool. And they're like, what
22:10
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing?
22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much.
22:12
Speaker 1: On your weird GeoCities website about monsters.
22:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call it the Area 51 of New England.
22:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:18
Speaker 2: Like there's been all kinds of weird, like I heard
22:20
Speaker 2: a rumor once that fucking Lyme disease was basically created
22:25
Speaker 2: at a facility near Montauk and just like accidentally got out. What?
22:30
Speaker 1: I thought we had Lyme disease like back in like
22:32
Speaker 1: Shakespeare times too, you know?
22:34
Speaker 2: I don't know.
22:35
Speaker 1: Maybe it was weaponized ticks. Yeah, I was about to say,
22:39
Speaker 1: is it like tick AIDS where we put that into
22:41
Speaker 1: tick communities to destroy the tick panthers?
22:43
Speaker 2: Because they do experiments on animals there. Oh, yeah. It's
22:48
Speaker 2: a biological research facility.
22:50
Speaker 1: That's where all the full metal alchemist monsters are. I
22:54
Speaker 1: don't get that reference. Unfortunately, a lot of the listeners do.
22:59
Speaker 2: So let's talk about The Phoenix Project.
23:02
Speaker 1: Yes. Which... These all sound like sort of like spin-off
23:05
Speaker 1: RuPaul's Drag Race shows.
23:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of this sounds fake.
23:08
Speaker 1: Where it's like, you know, Sachet takes Philadelphia. You're like, oh, sure, okay,
23:13
Speaker 1: I'll watch your take, whatever.
23:15
Speaker 2: The Phoenix Project was started in the late 40s as
23:18
Speaker 2: an attempt to control the weather using information and technologies
23:21
Speaker 2: derived from the work of Dr. Wilhelm Reich, an Austrian scientist.
23:26
Speaker 2: That's the last goddamn name you want.
23:29
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
23:29
Speaker 2: Coming from someone from Austria.
23:30
Speaker 1: I was about to say, 1940s, Wilhelm Reich. Where could
23:35
Speaker 1: we have found this scientist? I wonder what his early
23:39
Speaker 1: career was like.
23:40
Speaker 2: What was he up to during World War II?
23:43
Speaker 1: I wonder if he was into natural socialism.
23:48
Speaker 2: He's credited with discovering orgone energy, which we have an
23:51
Speaker 2: orgone blaster here.
23:52
Speaker 1: We do, yeah.
23:53
Speaker 2: That's why our feelings of anti-Semitism have ratcheted up in
23:56
Speaker 2: the past few weeks.
23:57
Speaker 1: It's like an ionic breeze quadra for tolerance. It filters
24:00
Speaker 1: it all right out of the room. What happened to those,
24:03
Speaker 1: by the way? That was on TV every eight minutes. Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 1: when I was 13, every single channel was like, well,
24:10
Speaker 1: you have to have an ionic breeze quadra. And I
24:12
Speaker 1: have not seen an air filtration system on the market
24:15
Speaker 1: in like 10 years. Not since Aqua Teen Season 2
24:19
Speaker 1: have they been around.
24:20
Speaker 2: We're going to need one for the smart dust.
24:22
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I feel like maybe they tried
24:24
Speaker 1: to phase them. I think someone showed up to the
24:26
Speaker 1: Ionic Breeze headquarters with a fucking manila envelope full of
24:30
Speaker 1: Grover Cleveland $ 10 million secret bills. And we're just like,
24:34
Speaker 1: you guys want to cut it the fuck out? And
24:36
Speaker 1: they went, boy, would I like to have an island
24:38
Speaker 1: that's also a speedboat. Let's do it.
24:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. That feels right.
24:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:43
Speaker 2: Because I wonder how... That smart dust has to be around.
24:46
Speaker 2: Hopefully there's some here.
24:48
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah.
24:48
Speaker 2: I hope we've inhaled some. I hope I've eaten some.
24:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope to, I don't want to just
24:53
Speaker 1: die surrounded by loved ones. I want someone to black
24:55
Speaker 1: bag me and make me one with all as a
24:58
Speaker 1: part of some sort of control group for the Philadelphia
25:00
Speaker 1: 2 electric fuckaloo or whatever. Go all the way down
25:04
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole.
25:05
Speaker 2: He supposedly proved the existence of orgone energy in various
25:09
Speaker 2: lab experiments. Also, further research revealed that dead orgone, or D-O-R,
25:16
Speaker 2: my favorite Swedish death metal band, was responsible for storms
25:20
Speaker 2: and bad weather and depression. Wow.
25:24
Speaker 1: If you were active- What's funny is we pretty much
25:26
Speaker 1: know what causes storms, bad weather, and depression. It's not
25:30
Speaker 1: like these are crazy mysteries.
25:32
Speaker 2: It's like, It's orgone energy.
25:33
Speaker 1: Different sort of convection currents of moisture, clouds in the atmosphere.
25:38
Speaker 1: It's all right there. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
25:41
Speaker 1: Magic rocks.
25:44
Speaker 2: One of his theories was that active people have lots
25:46
Speaker 2: of orgone energy. The depressed or sullen have an excess
25:49
Speaker 2: of DOR.
25:51
Speaker 1: Dead organ energy.
25:52
Speaker 2: And that dead organ energy also powers bad storms. So
25:57
Speaker 2: the government allegedly, as this story goes, used this device
26:02
Speaker 2: that he built that was capable of breaking up concentrations
26:05
Speaker 2: of DOR energy. The government takes it and uses it
26:09
Speaker 2: to build something called a radio sonde, S-O-N-D-E.
26:12
Speaker 1: Which sounds like some sort of pitchfork album that's highly praised. Yeah,
26:16
Speaker 1: it sounds like an album by the band Air. Yeah, oh, boy.
26:21
Speaker 1: If you don't think Moon Safari is one of Connor's
26:24
Speaker 1: desert island discs, you got another thing coming, sexy boy.
26:30
Speaker 2: And so with this device, they were able to control
26:34
Speaker 2: the weather.
26:34
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:35
Speaker 2: Because it was capable of emitting orgone energy or emitting
26:39
Speaker 2: bad orgone energy or dead orgone energy to kind of
26:43
Speaker 2: do whatever they want.
26:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could modulate whatever frequency orgone energy is beneficial
26:47
Speaker 1: to the government.
26:48
Speaker 2: Right. And the side effect of that is that they
26:52
Speaker 2: could also allegedly influence the thoughts and feelings of a
26:56
Speaker 2: large part of the population with this thing.
26:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could, you know, like, hey, let's make
27:00
Speaker 1: a big one and put it outside of, you know, Buffalo,
27:03
Speaker 1: New York and see if we can bum everybody out.
27:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is, like, we did the episode about Harp,
27:08
Speaker 2: which is that series of is it telescopes?
27:12
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, yeah, like electromagnetic telescopes where it's like, it, it,
27:16
Speaker 1: it's all based on like electron movement and they're, they're right.
27:19
Speaker 1: You know, reading, shooting things into the ionosphere, but it
27:22
Speaker 1: could be, it could be modified to do different things,
27:25
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like, like SETI, which search for intelligent,
27:28
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial intelligence is, I think a similar kind of array.
27:31
Speaker 1: That's also the only charity I've ever given to is
27:33
Speaker 1: I donated 50 bucks to keep SETI operational when I
27:36
Speaker 1: was 19.
27:37
Speaker 2: Nice.
27:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like, well, it's like that kind of
27:39
Speaker 1: a thing, a sort of a, uh, One of these,
27:42
Speaker 1: you know, like, well, no, what, mom? This is my
27:44
Speaker 1: tobacco water pipe, you know, kind of a deal.
27:46
Speaker 2: We're just monitoring the weather. Yeah. We're not changing it.
27:49
Speaker 1: No, why would we need, why would we need?
27:50
Speaker 2: Remember that, we played that interview with that government agent
27:54
Speaker 2: who was interviewed on Canadian TV.
27:56
Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
27:56
Speaker 2: And he was just like, I don't know.
27:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
28:00
Speaker 2: It might be able to do that, but we're not
28:01
Speaker 2: going to tell you.
28:02
Speaker 1: I mean, nice try, Canucks. Did I tell everyone about
28:05
Speaker 1: the news in Canada when I was up there over
28:07
Speaker 1: the holidays? Oh, yeah. It just was like, Yeah, we
28:11
Speaker 1: might not have enough tomatoes. Just very, very small problems.
28:15
Speaker 2: That is a problem, though. Yeah. I do like a
28:18
Speaker 2: tomato in select circumstances. I'm not a huge tomato guy.
28:21
Speaker 1: I like a tomato in just about every sandwich because
28:23
Speaker 1: it's like. You want it to kind of lube up
28:25
Speaker 1: the sandwich for swallowing purposes.
28:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does do that.
28:28
Speaker 1: And get a little moisture, you know? Yeah.
28:30
Speaker 2: So that was Project Phoenix. It was, you know, them,
28:35
Speaker 2: the government, or Project Phoenix, I don't think, was even
28:38
Speaker 2: a government group at first. But the rumor is that
28:42
Speaker 2: it was a project aimed at controlling the weather and
28:45
Speaker 2: controlling the mood of the people.
28:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. Similar to those, like, police... sort of pacification rays
28:53
Speaker 1: where it just shoots the uncomfortable wave of energy that
28:56
Speaker 1: you've talked about before.
28:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we do have.
28:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, those exist, you know.
29:00
Speaker 2: The active denial system. So as the story goes.
29:04
Speaker 1: That's also a Bradley Cooper meets women. That's his pick-up
29:07
Speaker 1: artist technique. I don't know, I just picked the douchey guy. Sorry,
29:10
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper. I also noticed that we were saying allegedly
29:14
Speaker 1: as if this is actually, could be, well, I mean,
29:16
Speaker 1: if it is real and they find this, we're in
29:18
Speaker 1: big trouble.
29:19
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're fucked up. Yeah, yeah.
29:21
Speaker 1: That would be great to get popped for the dumbest one. Like, what?
29:23
Speaker 1: That one was real? I thought all that shit about
29:25
Speaker 1: Russia that was very compelling that we worked on was good.
29:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, that or the Warren G. Harding episode.
29:30
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
29:31
Speaker 2: Fucking Harding group comes after us.
29:33
Speaker 1: They said, look, we can't take down last week tonight,
29:36
Speaker 1: but we could topple conspiracy the show.
29:39
Speaker 2: Fuckin'. try it.
29:41
Speaker 1: Do it.
29:41
Speaker 2: So, as the story goes, in the early 50s, the
29:44
Speaker 2: Phoenix Project merged with the remnants of Project Rainbow, which is...
29:50
Speaker 2: the group that put on the Philadelphia experiment. Yeah.
29:52
Speaker 1: Cause I was the, that was the stooges or to
29:55
Speaker 1: the MC five. Right. You know, the friendster to their Facebook. Exactly. Yeah. And, uh, and, uh,
30:01
Speaker 1: you know, uh, fucking the FBI director, he's the tequila tequila.
30:05
Speaker 1: He's the one who merged the two.
30:07
Speaker 2: They didn't come up with a new name. They just
30:09
Speaker 2: kept calling themselves the Phoenix project. And their aim was
30:12
Speaker 2: to delve further into the study of electromagnetic effects and
30:16
Speaker 2: their use in achieving stealth technology and problem was figuring
30:21
Speaker 2: out how to do it without all the adverse effects
30:23
Speaker 2: seen during the philadelphia experiment yeah which that makes sense
30:28
Speaker 2: you would want to make sure people don't get embedded
30:31
Speaker 2: in walls and walk through.
30:33
Speaker 1: Walls or burn for 18 days.
30:36
Speaker 2: Burn for 18 days although again renewable energy yeah or
30:40
Speaker 2: you don't add a premium.
30:41
Speaker 1: You don't have to do trans-dimensional cpr to save your broke.
30:45
Speaker 2: And what they found is that humans have a time
30:49
Speaker 2: reference point that they're born with, and it's linked to
30:53
Speaker 2: the Earth's native electromagnetic fields and helps orient people. With
30:58
Speaker 2: the nature of the universe and how it operates, obviously.
31:02
Speaker 2: I assume that's what everyone listening to this has been thinking.
31:05
Speaker 1: Of course.
31:05
Speaker 2: Up to this point is that it's a time reference
31:07
Speaker 2: point and that's why things went so awry the first time.
31:10
Speaker 1: It seems what they're kind of describing is like your
31:13
Speaker 1: inner ear equilibrium, but for time.
31:16
Speaker 2: Right.
31:16
Speaker 1: You know, like that's sort of a, which I guess
31:18
Speaker 1: is a phenomenon.
31:19
Speaker 2: Like I.
31:20
Speaker 1: You know, if you're sitting around and maybe you wake
31:22
Speaker 1: up late and your phone's dead and you go, oh,
31:24
Speaker 1: fuck it, it's probably about 3 p.m., you know, I
31:26
Speaker 1: feel like it's been about that, and you look and it's, oh,
31:28
Speaker 1: it's 2.40, you know?
31:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:29
Speaker 1: That kind of a deal, I guess, makes sense.
31:32
Speaker 2: Except for dimensions.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also then you.
31:35
Speaker 2: Parallel universes.
31:36
Speaker 1: But then you multiply magic.
31:40
Speaker 2: And it's apparently a separate entity distinct from the physical body.
31:45
Speaker 2: And when the theory is that when the generators on
31:48
Speaker 2: the USS Eldridge were started, they broke this time reference
31:52
Speaker 2: point link for everyone within that electromagnetic bottle. And the
31:56
Speaker 2: severing of that link is what caused this horrifying physical
31:59
Speaker 2: and mental trauma. So to overcome this, they had to
32:02
Speaker 2: develop an artificial link within the electromagnetic bottle to tie
32:08
Speaker 2: the people inside it to our current reality. And then
32:11
Speaker 2: they inserted a fake background. So they green screened reality, basically.
32:16
Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
32:17
Speaker 2: To make it look like people weren't moving and that
32:19
Speaker 2: they were still in the same place they had been
32:22
Speaker 2: the whole time.
32:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they could kind of do a little Adobe
32:26
Speaker 1: After Effects on the universe with it.
32:29
Speaker 2: Which, I mean, that would be damn interesting if all
32:32
Speaker 2: of this really happened.
32:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is one of the fun ones
32:36
Speaker 1: where it almost just sounds like some sort of retired
32:39
Speaker 1: CIA guy wrote a bunch of fan fiction. You know,
32:42
Speaker 1: this is like Sonic the Hedgehog marrying Pikachu, but for
32:45
Speaker 1: dudes with like flat tops.
32:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when we get into the Montauk project, it
32:50
Speaker 2: really becomes that.
32:51
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That one's like a fun one. That one's
32:53
Speaker 1: all just black helicopters and fucking fencing.
32:56
Speaker 2: It's that and the people who first put the theory out,
33:00
Speaker 2: even they're like, decide for yourself if it's real.
33:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
33:03
Speaker 2: Which always makes me feel like it's not real.
33:06
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
33:06
Speaker 2: Because most people who claim to have been through some
33:10
Speaker 2: horrifying government program cannot wait to tell you all about it.
33:14
Speaker 1: Because they'll have this screaming conviction that says they're either
33:19
Speaker 1: broken inside and something terrible's happened to them, and mentally
33:23
Speaker 1: they've snapped. or it's real and no one will ever
33:26
Speaker 1: believe them, and they're cursed to walk the earth, being
33:28
Speaker 1: not taken seriously forever.
33:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, very rarely is.
33:31
Speaker 1: It, eh?
33:33
Speaker 2: You never know.
33:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get a lot of the, I don't know,
33:37
Speaker 1: maybe there was another guy in the second half of
33:40
Speaker 1: the box moving his legs or whatever.
33:43
Speaker 2: And so this phase of them trying to figure out,
33:48
Speaker 2: basically recreate the Philadelphia experiment, And all of its time
33:52
Speaker 2: travel stuff and invisibility stuff, they allegedly figure it out
33:56
Speaker 2: in 1967. Okay. But then they take it to Congress,
34:00
Speaker 2: and Congress is like, no, we remember what happened last time.
34:03
Speaker 2: We don't want to fuck with that. So the Philadelphia
34:06
Speaker 2: Experiment and Project Phoenix, or the Phoenix Project, loses all
34:10
Speaker 2: of its funding in 1969 and is forced to shut down.
34:13
Speaker 2: Or is it? It's... It's not. Next week, we're going
34:20
Speaker 2: to talk about the Montauk Project, the Area 51 of
34:23
Speaker 2: New England, which ends up being the continuation of this story.
34:28
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the Philadelphia experiment?
34:31
Speaker 1: I mean, it is one of these things where I
34:33
Speaker 1: think when I don't think the United States black budget
34:38
Speaker 1: has a great kind of grasp on the sunk cost fallacy. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Where they go, well, we've got so much in it.
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Speaker 1: We've got to be close. We're $ 19 billion deep on
34:49
Speaker 1: invisible battleships. We've got to be just around the corner.
34:53
Speaker 1: I feel like the CIA budget guy just has that
34:57
Speaker 1: motivational poster where there's the guy who's been digging for
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Speaker 1: a really long time, and he turns around, but he's
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Speaker 1: so close to the diamonds.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: They seem to always think, if we just give it
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Speaker 1: another creepier name, And let another more corrupt, you know,
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Speaker 1: cross-dressing executive greenlight it, then perhaps we could get there.
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Speaker 2: And as someone who's had to deal with budgets at
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Speaker 2: day jobs and even comedy jobs, I've had writing jobs.
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Speaker 2: I know there's always.
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Speaker 1: Comedy and writing, two very different things.
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Speaker 2: Very, very different things. Yeah. I know there's always a
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Speaker 2: sense of, well, if we don't ask for this money
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Speaker 2: this year, we're not going to get it next year.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: We have to spend this money and we have to
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Speaker 2: ask for the same money or more next year or
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Speaker 2: our budget will get cut. I was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Whenever I do shows on military bases, they're always
35:43
Speaker 1: just like, there's the racquetball court. I mean, we got
35:46
Speaker 1: to fucking... We had to find some place to put it,
35:48
Speaker 1: you know? Like, it's a lot of that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that.
35:52
Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I feel like the Philadelphia experiment, I don't doubt that
35:56
Speaker 2: we were working on, that we have been working on
35:59
Speaker 2: invisibility stuff for a long time. But having it go
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Speaker 2: this awry to the point where people are time traveling,
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Speaker 2: which is definitely going to happen in the next episode.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's quite a bit of that.
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Speaker 2: That seems extreme. I know this is the era when
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Speaker 2: the aliens were allegedly bringing the Nazis all the good shit,
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Speaker 2: which why did aliens hate Jews so much?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird.
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a question we never ask about
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Speaker 2: World War II.
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Speaker 1: They must know something we don't know. Yeah, it's weird.
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Speaker 1: The Nazis had the best connect in town.
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Speaker 2: How come the aliens never showed up for the Allies?
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Speaker 1: We thought they looked cool. The aliens are also German.
36:39
Speaker 2: They work for Hugo Boss.
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Speaker 1: We can poop and then disappear the poop after sexy
36:44
Speaker 1: times have been completed. It is very efficient.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's this week's episode. This is a Patreon-only episode,
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Speaker 2: so you don't have to subscribe to a goddamn thing.
36:55
Speaker 1: You already figured it out, kids.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
36:57
Speaker 1: You already put the money in the tree stump and
36:59
Speaker 1: met up with the black suit.
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Speaker 2: You could, if you're so inclined, come out to the
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Speaker 2: Hollywood Hotel Saturday, January 26th. That's this Saturday, 9 p.m.
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Speaker 2: for the Unpops stand-up show. Keith Carey is headlining.
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Speaker 1: Whoa.
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Speaker 2: And then.
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Speaker 1: At Keith Tells Jokes himself.
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Speaker 2: The one and only. Recording an album the next day.
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Speaker 1: He is, yeah. He's doing that. So, yeah, if you're around,
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Speaker 1: go see him at the Chatterbox in West Covina. He's
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Speaker 1: very funny. Top of his game.
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Speaker 2: And also there, I'll be there, Quincy Johnson, Travis Clark,
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Speaker 2: Andy Sell, Jessica Singer, Cindy Aravina, and possibly a drop
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Speaker 2: in from Annie Letterman.
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Speaker 1: Oh, nice.
37:38
Speaker 2: She is.
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Speaker 1: If she gets her track suit dry cleaned in time.
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Speaker 1: A murder as well. That's a great show, man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be fun. So come out to that. What
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Speaker 2: do you got to plug?
37:50
Speaker 1: Oh, man, Mean Boys Tour, we're going back on the road.
37:52
Speaker 1: We're going through the South. So March 28th, Houston.
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Speaker 2: 29th, Austin.
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Speaker 1: 30th, Dallas. 31st, Kansas City. March 1st, St. Louis. March, oh,
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Speaker 1: April 1st, St.
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Speaker 2: Louis.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going back in time. We're going to Philadelphia experience,
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Speaker 1: experiment ourselves after Kansas City, you know, and we're going
38:08
Speaker 1: to teleport. Anyway, then Nashville April 5th, Atlanta on the 6th,
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Speaker 1: and Orlando. We're finally going to Florida. On April 7th.
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Speaker 1: So tickets for that should be live at MeanBoysPodcast.com by
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Speaker 1: the time this comes out.
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Speaker 2: Where are you doing in Kansas City?
38:23
Speaker 1: I think we got a BDSM dungeon. I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I know Keith set that one up. Yeah, well, I
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Speaker 1: forget what the venue is, but if it isn't that,
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Speaker 1: that was definitely very seriously considered and hashed out detail-wise
38:37
Speaker 1: at the BDSM club.
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Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah. We always do a place there called Tapcade,
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Speaker 2: which is a movie theater and arcade, but the movie
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Speaker 2: theater is in back and it has this, it's almost
38:49
Speaker 2: like movie theater seating, but people still have tables and shit.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
38:52
Speaker 2: It's a really great fucking event.
38:53
Speaker 1: Oh, kind of like the fucking Man's Chinese where they
38:56
Speaker 1: had that comedy club? Yeah, that's nice. I like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Shout out to Tapcade. We've done, I think,
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Speaker 2: three or four shows there. Oh, hell yeah. Always fun.
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Speaker 2: So go see Connor and Keith in Kansas City, motherfuckers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that's it. Let's get out of here. Connor, say goodbye.
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Speaker 1: Goodbye, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Goodbye, everybody.
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Speaker 1: We love you. People of Earth, your planet is about
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Speaker 1: to be destroyed.