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EXPOSED: The Stock Market is Rigged & Controlled by Elites... Here's How w/ Ian Carroll · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. If I had to sum up the last five years of my life and just life of being in this world, I'd say that from one angle, those five years have been one of realizing that most systems and most pillars of our society and the things that we thought were real that form our worldview have actually turned out to be fake, criminal, fraudulent, you know, all kinds of bad stuff, malintent, satanic, whether we're talking about the music industry, the streaming, you know, Netflix, these kinds of companies, the education system, the government, the big pharma, and it's been longer for five years than than you may you know, me, it's been a little bit longer than that. But either way, it's been this process of just realizing that everything that I thought was real is not real. And it's been a process of finding what's real.
• 0:54
  Like for me, what's real is living off the land, getting chickens, learning how to grow my food, raising a family, having children, interacting with people over a fire. Like, these are the real things that I really value, but I also value my life exposing the falsehoods, exposing that this false world of this this cage they built around us. They wanna keep us trapped in, so we don't really understand how powerful our body is or how, you know, powerful energy is. The energies of the world that can be accessed not through some limited fossil fuel resource like oil. There's just there's so much to that.
• 1:28
  And so my guest today is something that you've probably seen, going viral on TikTok or Twitter. That's Ian Carroll. He goes by, you know, cancel this clothing company. And he's someone that has done a phenomenal job making these short little videos that expose these massive lies. And so in today's show, we're gonna be diving into the massive lie of the stock market, and some really interesting information he has that helps you understand that the stock market is very, very rigged and controlled.
• 2:00
  At the end of the day, it's just there to take our money, to keep us, you know, keep us poor, keep us owning nothing. So we'll be diving into the stock market, but not just the stock market, just the bigger picture of the collapse of the lies and what comes next. So folks, please enjoy this conversation with Ian Carroll. Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you.
• 2:20
  So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at?
• 2:35
  So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive?
• 2:54
  No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
• 3:05
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
• 3:32
  Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
• 3:52
  It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now. We're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver. Because what it's doing is it's protecting you.
• 4:21
  This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value.
• 4:36
  So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900.
• 5:12
  Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. Ian, after seeing your face everywhere online, whether it's TikTok or Twitter or YouTube, it's great to finally have you on the show. So thanks for being here, man. It's really good to have you here.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Seth. I'm really excited to talk.
• 5:37
  Seth Holehouse: So it's funny because how is I think I was able to get you on is that I put up I comment on one of your posts. I was like, hey, man. I I couldn't DM you. I put a post out saying, can you help me? Then I was interviewing Ashton Forbes.
• 5:48
  And Ashton Forbes is like, hey, man. I saw your post, and I was on his show, and I'll connect you, and it all kinda connected up. So it's the magic of the interwebs, I guess.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Ashton's great too. It's it's a great way to cut through all the noise and the direct messages and and connect through people to people. And Ashton's such a cool dude to connect to someone through, so I knew this is gonna be great.
• 6:07
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So there's you cover a a wide range of of topics. Right? From, you know, the the Illuminati, the, you know, the Zionist control of the entire world, the music industry. But the one of the things that you've done that I've I think I've learned the most from is you explaining from your perspective the stock market and how rigged it is.
• 6:30
  And not how rigged it is, but also is how cannibalistic it is and how these these these these giant monsters that are literally swallowing up companies. And and I remember, like, you know, the the companies of my childhood, Toys R Us, Blockbuster, GameStop, which we'll talk about, and seeing these companies go out of business, and it happened around this time. I was like, oh, well, I guess it kinda makes sense because it's the.com time, and, of course, blockbusters, you know, they're not gonna stay current and Toys R Us. I guess it makes sense because Amazon, but watching your information, realizing like, woah, this was intentional. And also, I saying what's happened with GameStop was like, it really opened my mind.
• 7:07
  So I'd love to dig into that. And, course, we might go down some rabbit holes, on other topics as well. But can you just can you just kinda walk us through what you've uncovered with the stock market? And I wanna kind of dive into the significance of what's happening with GameStop.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Before I do walk us through it, I wanna sort of give a shout out to all the other people, a lot of them in the retail stock communities that have done a lot of this research for me and alongside me and before me. And a lot of what I've been putting out on this topic is not my original research, but rather me resynthesizing the work of countless other retail investors that have also been getting really curious about the stock market ever since the GameStop debacle in 2021. And that's worth noting in and of itself that aside from all the fraud involved in the 2021 GameStop squeeze, aside from all of the crime that we kind of witnessed in that microcosm, that got a lot of regular people interested in digging into what's really going on in the stock market. And that's a really powerful force.
• 8:13
  And that alone is a story all in of itself, let alone what we've all discovered along the way and what you're referring to here. So the story that you're referring to in brief is the story of the evolution of the markets becoming more and more complex and more and more financialized with new instruments and new high frequency trading and new ways for big money to kind of game the system and make more money. And as that has evolved, their strategies have evolved in tandem. Not everyone in Wall Street are criminal scumbags, but there's enough criminal scumbags on Wall Street that if you give them loopholes and you give them ways to exploit the system, they'll use them. And so these companies that you're referring to, Toys R Us is like the early first example of Bain Capital realizing that they can use a leverage buyout to get ahold of the company for almost no money of their own.
• 9:09
  And then once they're inside of the company, they can actually mismanage the company into the ground and take out huge amounts of profit for themselves as a firm and for their buddies, as shareholders. And if the company goes along the way, they can actually have installed legal protections so that they get off scot free and they're not really responsible for any of those damages and any of that failure. And they actually walk with billions of dollars and Toys R Us burns to the ground and they can just move on to the next company. And the whole market looked at that strategy, the ones that knew what was really going on. And that's a very mainstream story.
• 9:47
  Anyone can look up what happened to Toys R Us with Bain Capital. And everyone looked at that and realized like, Hey, that's a pretty solid strategy if you're willing to do that to a company. And so they all started to look for other companies that, you know, might be on the way down. And when you take that strategy that is sort of like an insider looting of a company and you combine it with the strategies that short sellers were developing in the market, whereby they would pick on a company that they think is going down and they would just start to short sell that stock. So attacking it from a financial standpoint, all of those people are suddenly incentivized to do the same things and their actions when collaborative all achieve the same ends, which is driving a company's stock price to zero, bankrupting the company, and they all walk away with massive gains.
• 10:34
  And so as you walk that strategy forwards in time and they get better and better at it, as their friends in the media start to report on the companies that are going down as they go down, these are all factors that lead to us regular people on the outside. We look at it and we just think, oh, it's like, yeah, it makes sense that Blockbuster's going out of business. Nothing to see there. But when you actually peel back some layers and look under the microscope, you start to find the same consulting groups showing up at all of these failing companies, consulting them in weird ways that don't seem like the best interest of the company and the shareholders. And then you see the same giant banks and financial institutions short selling the stock on the way down.
• 11:13
  And sometimes even naked short selling the stock, which is a whole other issue. And you get forwards in time to GameStop and they've had so much success with this strategy that they're willing to be so flagrant about it as to accrue a 300% short interest, meaning that they have borrowed and sold every single share of GameStop that was supposed to exist three times over and more. And that was all publicly recorded because no one was really paying attention to it yet. And that's when GameStop came to the attention of a couple of really smart traders that had their eyes out. And that's where that whole story kind of took off.
• 11:49
  And at the time, none of the GameStop investors really realized what they had sort of accidentally stumbled on, I don't think. But once we saw the lengths that these short sellers were willing to go to, to sort of cover up the situation, to stop the trading, to get everyone to leave and sell the stock and move on to the next thing, that's when we started asking more questions. And those questions led us back in time to just see this whole bigger picture emerging.
• 12:15
  Seth Holehouse: So it wasn't the crime that caught the attention. It was the cover up of the crime that really made everyone say, hey, something really fishy is going on here.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: So Yeah. In a in a way, yeah. So explain
• 12:29
  Seth Holehouse: you mentioned, you know, short selling, which I'm I'm somewhat familiar with. Right? But Mhmm. Naked short selling and and GameStop being, you know, oversold 300%. Can you explain those concepts a little more?
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's important to remember for all of us regular folks that the market, stock market in general, is intentionally made complex, sometimes needlessly, so that regular people don't understand it. That's the whole point. And that's how all of finance is. And it's linked to why they don't teach us about finance in school.
• 13:00
  Because if the mass population of regular people are ignorant to how this stuff works, it's a lot easier for the wealthy people that are making all the money off these systems to exploit those systems at our detriment to their benefit. So no one should feel ashamed that they don't understand these things at all, but it's actually not necessarily as complicated as they make it seem like it is. Normally when you buy shares of a company, you're buying a company at a price that you hope is low and you're hoping it goes up and you sell it later for money, obviously. Short selling is like the exact opposite where right now today you take out a loan and borrow some shares at a price that you think is high. And you're hoping the stock price is gonna go down so that later you can buy back some shares and close out your loan by returning those shares to the person you borrowed them from.
• 13:48
  So it's a buy, it's a sell high and buy back low rather than a buy low and sell high. And that's perfectly legal and it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do in the market. It's a good way for people that think a company's undervalued or overvalued to sort of even out their opinions over time, that's fine. Sometimes it can be abused. It can Because obviously when supply and demand comes into effect, if everyone is selling, that makes the price go down.
• 14:16
  And if everyone is buying, that makes the price go up. So in some ways, selling can make a company's stock price go down illegitimately, but the real problem comes in when you do what's called naked short selling. And it is leaked. It's kind of the boogeyman of the stock market. No one wanted to talk about it before Game Stop happened because it's sort of, they try to keep it under wraps, but it's technically legal under very certain circumstances.
• 14:39
  And it's kind of easy to understand why. As in when we wanna trade stocks, there's actually giant middlemen called market makers that are facilitating all the trades. Because if I wanna sell this obscure share of this like green energy company that not a lot of people are trading, and I wanna sell it for a really specific price, chances are there's not anyone else that's exactly necessarily selling that exact amount of shares for that exact It'd be a lot more efficient if the market had big people with lots of money that were willing to sort of match all of our trades all the time to make things trade faster. And they would just sort of level their books out and keep things flowing. And so they are often on the other ends of these trades.
• 15:18
  And if you're buying a share, you might be buying it straight from them. And sometimes if you wanted to short a company, if you wanted to borrow some shares to sell right now so that later you could make some profit when the price is lower, sometimes they can't find a borrower, a person to loan you those shares right away. So if I wanna borrow the shares right now to sell them, they are allowed under the right circumstances to loan you shares that don't actually exist, synthetic fake shares under the promise, the pretext that later today or tomorrow, will find someone that is willing to loan those shares out. They'll make that borrowing happen legitimately, and then everything will be kosher and you'll be good to go. But the problem is that there are also mechanics that let them fail to deliver on that.
• 16:08
  Are also legally allowed to kind of kick the can on that. And it can of just, it can start to get abused really quickly. Because what you now have is a market where you have a mechanic by which shares that don't exist are allowed to be created and sold to buyers like us without telling us if those are real shares or not. And that's how you can wind up with shares that don't actually exist floating around on the market, getting traded back and forth. And that's how you can wind up with the short interest of a company, meaning the percentage of the shares that have been borrowed and sold for short selling can go above 100% of the shares.
• 16:42
  And in GameStop's case, it was above 300% of the shares at a certain point there. And all of those shares aren't just floating in the market. They've been sold to people like you and me, and we now hold them in our accounts. So if you let naked short selling get out of hand, suddenly more than a % of shares that are supposed to exist are starting to get locked up in accounts and we aren't selling them. And so now there's this kind of ongoing debacle of how many shares actually exist, and no one will tell us.
• 17:14
  Seth Holehouse: Interesting. I mean, it it kinda reminds me almost in reverse way of the banking industry and what happens when there's bank runs where, you know, it's like the the bank, especially before when they had no reserve requirements, you you you put a hundred thousand dollars in the bank, they take that money and they go play the stock market with it, do God knows what with it. And they might have done that, you know, with a thousand different customers just because they they hope that there's not that one day that, you know, 10% of the customers request 10% of their funds, which would then make the bank go under. So it seems like it's a little bit of more of that, which, to me, a lot of this goes back to, like, Babylonian money magic. It goes back in this way of, like, also how they're keeping the silver price suppressed through all the the silver paper, and how they're, you know, basically manipulating the market through fake stuff, whether it's fiat currency, fake stocks, you know, fake silver certificates that actually don't match what's actually being held in the in the reserves.
• 18:10
  So it's it's crazy, but what's crazy, though, is that it seems like at the end of the day, it's always us that they're screwing. Right? Like, like, that's it's always us, right, that get hurt. And so with GameStop so, you know, there is a video that you do with Matt Baker. Right?
• 18:28
  He's he's like the the Viking guy that talks at, like, the city council meetings who's who's hilarious. Right? He's fun to watch. And you explain this tweet that he had, you know, about how like, can GameStop really affect that many people? It's just some video game stock, and so you got into into the derivatives and everything.
• 18:44
  So maybe explain a little more how Yep. This act of holding, which is if I understand correctly from that video, you were one of the earlier people back in the original, you know, a couple years ago, that this original kind of movement of kind of bucking the system by buying and holding GameStop. So how could that actually affect this market where, you know, you've got companies that are look at, you know, Apple or Google or you have these massive, you know, trillions of dollars worth of stocks floating around, whereas GameStop in the grand scheme of things is like, you know, it's at the local ice cream vendor. So explain how this works and how the scale of it can work.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You just used a really good metaphor with talking about fiat currencies and fractional reserve banking. And it is kind of like the reverse where they've been giving out all these fake certificates for shares. And we kind of realize that they're giving out fake certificate for shares. And normally they're not worried about it because either they'll get the company to go bankrupt and all of the fake certificates will disappear and it won't even matter. No one can count them then.
• 19:45
  Or they'll just kind of get us to sell, keep selling them because eventually the stock price is gonna go down and they'll just put out their articles that make us scared. And we'll be like, I'm gonna get out and cut my losses. And then no one will ever end up like figuring out just how many fake certificates were out there. And when we realized that's what's going on, now we all just decide, okay, we'll just hold onto them and keep holding and we won't sell them. And we're just gonna keep getting loud about like, what's in your vault guys?
• 20:11
  Like how much silver is really in your vault? Because we're all holding onto these certificates and you can't have them until we see what's in the vault. And so in a way, it's like this reverse UNO card of their own tricks. And now we've got this Trump card of like, you can't legally force me to sell and I'm not gonna sell until I get to look inside your vault and expose the crime that's going on back there. And so onto this question of how can doing that with this one little company GameStop, which is relatively small in the grand scheme of things, how can that affect the whole system?
• 20:44
  And it's important to remember that the people that are loaning out all these fake shares, these are some of the biggest market makers and hedge funds in the market. People like Citadel, for example, is one of the biggest market makers for all securities. They're tied into all the different banks. They're doing big trades with each other. So it's not that we're like directly addressing GameStop.
• 21:07
  It's that we're addressing the gigantic financial institutions that run the market and they were betting down on GameStop and we caught them in the play. And what they're doing in the rest of the market is they have all of these leveraged bets using these derivative contracts, which is a fancy way of saying they are fractionally reserve banking their bets on other things. So if they have $10 they can leverage that to trade as though they had a hundred dollars. They just have to keep some collateral to make sure that if it goes south, they can cover the trade and close it all out. But they do that in that direction, that direction and that direction.
• 21:42
  And you can look up the OCC, the office of the comptroller of the currency. They publish the statistics on how much derivatives trading is happening in the markets every year. And it's a little hard to like get into the charts and the numbers themselves, but it's in the hundreds of trillions of dollars of trades are being made by some of these banks. Like Goldman Sachs is one that is extremely over leveraged where they have something 400,000,000,000 in assets as of last year, and they have tens and tens of trillions of derivative trades open. And it's complicated because they use derivatives to hedge other positions.
• 22:20
  They use them to sort of balance everything out and make sure that it's safe. But the problem with derivatives like that is if anyone's doing anything underhanded with them, or they're using them to make some positions, to bet really big on some things. You can use it to hide positions or to bet multiple times on the same stuff without really telling everyone you're using the same money multiple times. If anything goes wrong in that system, suddenly everything can start to break. And this happened quite famously recently with this firm called Archegos Capital Management that was run by Bill Huang.
• 22:52
  And this is what caused Credit Suisse to eventually fail a year or two ago is Bill Huang was using a whole bunch of derivatives to make a whole bunch of risky bets on a bunch of meme stocks, as well as other stocks. And he was trading with six different counterparties, like six different banks essentially, without telling any of them that he was trading with all the rest of them. And he was way over leveraged and none of them knew how much risk he had going on because he was intentionally concealing how much risk he had. And the moment that he made a wrong trade and his portfolio started to get away from him, which kind of lined up with the GameStop thing, Maybe that's what did it, who knows? Then his whole portfolio just blew up overnight and Credit Suisse was the one that got left holding the bag.
• 23:40
  And then those contracts usually run for a year or three years. And one year later, when all of his contracts came to expiry and someone had to pay the bill, Credit Suisse exploded. And then UBS had to absorb Credit Suisse. And now you can find articles on the internet for the last couple months, just a year later, two years later, that UBS is suddenly needing extra cash infused. And so that's how a problem that starts small, like somewhere like GameStop short sellers getting caught in a position that's not entirely legal or intelligent, that can start to shake other market participants and expose how they've all been sort of screwing everyone over in the markets.
• 24:19
  And that can spider web out to everyone that's doing risky, shady things kind of behind the scenes.
• 24:25
  Seth Holehouse: That's starting to make more sense now. So I know that you've done some deep dives into, you know, BlackRock as an example and and the exposing the inner workings of it. So right now, we're looking at GameStop, which is representative of a a scenario that shows the fraud and the the you know, not as fraud criminality of what's happening. Yeah. So between GameStop and looking all the way up to, say, BlackRock, in your opinion, how much of the stock market is actually just a facade?
• 24:56
  I mean, how much of it is this real, you know, I you know, thing that represents the the global currency and the and the value of companies versus this giant conglomerate of lies and deception that these elites are using at will to steal our money, to bankrupt companies, to, you know, to bankrupt countries? I mean, how much of it is actually the latter?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a good question. And it's hard to have any amount of certainty about the answer because there's so much fraud that it's obscuring any semblance of reality. But from where we're all looking at it today, from my assessment, I think it's like at least 90% of the market is just smoke and mirrors and magic tricks. And you could do everything from down to the small, like the GameStop issue exposes that there are massive amounts of synthetic fake shares in every company, not just GameStop. The naked short selling issue is market wide.
• 25:58
  And there's numerous other examples, Overstock.com comes to mind, that expose that shares are not what we think they are. Furthermore, the shares that we all own are actually just IOU certificates and the real shares are held by the depository and trust company. And that's a whole other rabbit hole that we're all trading fake Fiat shares that don't actually have all the legal rights. We're sort of led to believe they do. But then you can go further up to like BlackRock has multiple layers of sort of deception involved where most people think that supply and demand happens to some degree in the markets and that our trades can affect what's happening with the stock price, but actually the vast amount of the market is controlled by algorithms today.
• 26:40
  And BlackRock manages the biggest one called Aladdin, A L A D D I N. And Aladdin, some people estimate that it is responsible for to 70% of the money flows through the markets, just pure algorithmic trading of massive institutional money moving back and forth. And that's on top of the SEC director, Gary Gensler, a few years ago in response to the GameStop issue admitted openly that 95% of retail trades like our trades, regular people's trades, don't even go to the lit market, meaning the actual stock market. 95% of our trades are actually getting shuffled off into what they call dark pools, which is literally what they're called. That's not a made up word.
• 27:17
  And a dark pool is just a private little trading space, like in the back offices of the banks that are supposed to be trading our stuff on the open market. And instead they put them in this backroom where they just kind of match trades up sort of at a price that makes sense. And they're probably gonna make a little extra penny off of. And then they just give us whatever we were. And so there's all sorts of parts of the system that we are led to believe are a free and fair market that actually is like, this part here is not real.
• 27:44
  And this part here is actually not working the way they tell you it is. And this entire layer is full of fraud. And all the way up to the very top, which is sort of the head of the hydra of the more conspiracy theorist crowd about things like BlackRock is that people think that, like they say that BlackRock owns everything. And that's not exactly true. Like BlackRock is a money manager that's managing assets on behalf of all of us because we have our retirement money with BlackRock.
• 28:10
  We have our ETFs and all of our like savings funds in these BlackRock funds, but BlackRock controls all the voting power that all the shares that they manage represent. And we're all led to believe that the stock market's all about money, but it's the voting power that all of these shares, that voting power is what elects the corporate boards. It's what decides the CEOs, the pay, the direction of all the companies. And so there's this higher level of sort of a facade whereby we think that all these companies are competing in an open market. But if the same three biggest money managers, BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard are managing something like 40 to 60 of the votes that decide how all these companies are run, like literally every company, all these competitors in the same industries, then how competitive is it really if they're deciding the leadership of Johnson and Johnson and they're deciding the leadership of Merck and Pfizer?
• 29:04
  It's like right?
• 29:07
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, I have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that had infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year and this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's going to get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply.
• 29:40
  You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food.
• 30:12
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• 30:55
  It's it's crazy, but what's what I find to be really interesting with this, I love going back like that, you know, a hundred thousand or million foot view and say, okay, what's the bigger picture? Is, you know, that there's this the term the great awakening, and take, you know, take it as you will, but I think it's it's very real in perspective that a lot of people are waking up. Like, love going back to Plato's cave, the Algory of the cave that we've been in a cave, I I think for millennia. Like, we've been in a cave, like, since the great flood. Basically, there's been Yeah.
• 31:25
  Maybe even before that. Right? That that we we have had these whether you wanna get into, the fallen angels or the Adanaki or it's a whole other discussion. But that basically, that there is these bad people that, you know, generationally are running the world and through their bloodlines and their wealth, and they're able to accumulate wealth over multiple generations. You look at the Rothschilds as an example, and how, you know, going back to the Bank of England and some crazy stuff that you can see, it's like, you know, where's your family, you know, where's your money come from?
• 31:51
  It's like, oh, from the sixteenth century, we were doing like drug running and gold trading, like, across the open seas. It's like, oh, okay, or we shorted the Bank of England or something crazy like that, you know. So you have this, you know, what they've done though, because they've gained so much control is they have captured, you know, and even I didn't do this capture, but they've established all of these different industries and mechanisms in our world. You're looking at say, not just big pharma, but the entire medical industry, going back into the Rockefellers and how they seize control of the medical industry. Obviously, the media, the education system, the majority of governments around the world, big tech.
• 32:31
  I mean, they've basically almost everything that we see around us is this shadow projected on the wall within the cave that they're using to distract us from what's real. So most people, they're born into it. You don't know that you're being born into it. It's like that you take a wild animal, the third generation behind a cage will no longer understand that there's actually a forest out there it should be living in. But that's like multi, multi, multi generations, like for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
• 32:57
  This is what's been happening. And they've they've trapped us in this, you know, even looking at energy, whereas most people are like, oh, okay. Oil is made from the fossils of dinosaurs, and we're gonna run out. And so, you know, that's why they we have the green initiative. And all these lies, they told us not only about how oil is renewable as an example, but actually there's, you know, ether.
• 33:17
  There's free energy. They've hidden this tech. But getting back to this whole idea of the great awakening is what I see though is that in all these different verticals of our society that that form the pillars of our lives, that the narrative across all these different areas, it's all cracking. Right? Look at what Ashton is doing.
• 33:37
  Look at this recent interview on Joe Rogan, you know, Terrence, I forget his last name.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Terrence Howard.
• 33:42
  Seth Holehouse: Terrence Howard. Right? Talking about, you know, how even the periodic table of elements we've been given is is a lie. It's it's been dumbed down from its original, you know, probably much higher realm meaning as it relates to frequency and color and light. And so what you have happening though is that it's like all at once, all of these systems of lies that have been put into place are cracking and they're breaking, whether it's, you know, you're helping a lot of people want to see through the facade of the stock market.
• 34:10
  It's like, yeah, the whole thing is a lie. Right? Like, G. Edward Griffin, you know, the the the, you know, the Federal Reserve, Fiat currency, The whole thing is a lie. It's actually it's it's this ancient, know, Babylonian money magic.
• 34:23
  Hollywood, the mainstream media, politics. Right? Going back in, you know, people talk about Edward Bernays and the whole left, you know, hey. We'll give them two choices. Coke, you know, Coke and Pepsi, whatever.
• 34:33
  Like, people are starting to see through all this stuff. And what I see with what you're doing specifically as it relates to the stock market is you're helping people to see that it's just another one of the rigged systems. And when you start to realize that, you learn that their rules are different than ours, and you start playing by their rules instead of our rules, and their system comes crashing down. And it's just exciting actually, because you can see it happening. You can see the destruction of the old guard in real time if you know where to look.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's an extremely hopeful time. I think a lot of peep it because the irony is that this great awakening is paired with us all learning these lies, with us all being exposed to how much of the world is a lie. And so it can feel disheartening. Like it can feel like suddenly the world is getting so much worse. Suddenly everything is But actually what's happening is all the lies that were already all around us are getting exposed.
• 35:32
  And so I actually find it to be an incredibly hopeful time. There will always be evil in this world. There will always be corruption and degeneracy, but exposing it is the first step to changing it. And certainly there's growing pains. Like I think what this phenomenon that you're talking about is largely being facilitated by this new decentralized media where everyone has access to information and everyone has a voice to share.
• 35:55
  And that inherently comes with the problems of people getting things wrong, people like latching onto things that aren't real. It's like now that we don't have a centralized authority to tell us which lies to believe, sometimes we're gonna stray into our own lies that we accidentally believe, but that's the process of learning, of becoming more responsible for our own information and our own perceptions of the world. And I see nothing but up as far as the human potential that's unlocked by us all having a voice and us all having access to information where historically, those have been very guarded things.
• 36:29
  Seth Holehouse: And so looking at the stock market and getting it even into, like, economic shock testing, and I'm not sure if you've ever read a silent weapons for quiet wars where they talk about oh, man. The I like, I'll tell you about it after the show. Like, that that's a book that you could read a hundred times over. And it it it like, basically, be here. I'll I'll pull it up really quick.
• 36:49
  It's called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. And I'll bring up just an image of the the book cover. But basically, it is a book. This is what it looks like right here. I've got it like front and center in my in my library.
• 37:06
  It's called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. And so basically, what it is is and there's there's kind of disagreements on the origins of it, but how it's presented is that there's a guy, I think it was in the eighties that was buying and recycling copier machines. And he bought this copier machine that contained in it this, printout, like this basically this book called Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. And if you read the language of the book, it was distributed at what I believe to be the very first Bilderberg meeting, back in I think it was in 1958. And it's like, it's mind blowing to read it because what it does is it goes through their whole program to destroy America, because America stands in the way of the new world order, and to basically seize control of people.
• 37:56
  But it goes into these how they use mathematics, and, they brought in these mathematics and economists, because they found that they'd use like this, what they call economic shock testing, where they would find through their studies, this is back in the like the sixties, and fifties, and forties, that if they changed the price of cigarettes, hypothetically, by, you know, 3%, that they would see an increase of say domestic violence by 5%. They'd see an increase of people going to the bar and drinking by 10%, and so because at that time, this is when they're they're they're just trying to rule out the UPC codes, where they could actually track purchasing. So what it did is that we look at money as money. They look at money as a form of measurement. They look at it as a as a piece of data that reveals what's actually happening in society.
• 38:42
  So they learned how to use what they call economic shock testing, which the same was ways that they described how you'd have an airplane or a missile, which they were exposed to the amount of shock to see when the bolts will start coming out of it to see how they could actually, strengthen. Right? So how fast it could go, etcetera. So they'd use those same principles and theories on the people, but it goes into how money is actually representation of energy and how it's flowing and how they they would occasionally have to use reset the energy flow, like they use these wars strategically, and but it goes into how they would dumb down the American population, that they'd replace our entertainment with third grade entertainment. They would, intentionally send our young men off to wars to destroy the morale of the country and to separate to destroy the family bond between men and women and between mother and child.
• 39:30
  Anyway, it's a wild, wild book.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: But That's interesting.
• 39:34
  Seth Holehouse: It like, when we look at the stock market as a as an offshoot of this, you can see that the stock market is very powerful tool that they've used. Like, they they can use it to collapse currencies, to collapse countries, to, you know, even getting into into the the currency stuff. It just it's wild, actually. I guess, I think, like, what what you're unveiling here is is something very, very significant for one of their tools to control our world and how it's undoing. I think, well, it's like a major hole getting blown into that cave that so many people have been stuck in.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. It's not just exposing one of, I mean, I think the more important part of what you're talking about is the exposure of this weapon, more or less, that they're using this measurement and weapon and system of control from the top down, but also exposing, I think another part that's really important is exposing from the bottom up how most people don't realize how the stock market actually affects all of our lives every day. Even if you have zero money invested in the stock market, most people think of it as like this thing for finance bros and this thing for like the wolf of Wall Street that I, it's not part of my life. I don't do it. Or it's like, I have a four zero one ks, but that's all I got.
• 40:46
  But no, the stock market affects the price of your eggs, the price of your energy, the price of everything that's in your home, in the room you're sitting in right now. All of that came from things interfacing with the stock market. And the stock market is interfacing with all of the commodities that make our products, interface with all the food that feeds us and spills our grocery stores. And the decisions of all the corporations that are on the stock market are the types of decisions that determine whether there's poison in all of our food, whether there's toxic chemicals in all of our personal care products. Like this affects everyone.
• 41:18
  And it is deeply tied, not just to our economic and stuff life, but also to our health and our emotional, our mental, our physical well-being as well.
• 41:30
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. And so actually, I'll I'm gonna pull up. This is just I I went and found you can find this book everywhere because it's PDF. This I'm gonna read a little bit here is talking about economic shock testing because this kind of goes into it. This is straight from the book.
• 41:41
  So it says, in recent time now keep in mind, this was supposedly published in 1958. Okay? So it says in recent times, the application of operations research to the study of the public economy has been obvious for anyone who understands the principles of shock testing. In the shock testing of an aircraft airframe, the recoil impulse of firing a gun mounted on the airframe causes shock waves in the structure, which tell aviation engineers the conditions under which some parts of the airplane or the whole airplane or its wings will start to vibrate or flutter like a guitar string, a flute reed, or a tuning fork, and disintegrate and or fall apart in flight. Economic engineers achieve the same result in studying the behavior of the economy and the consumer public by carefully selecting a stable commodity such as beef, coffee, gasoline, or sugar, and then causing a sudden change or shock in its price or availability, thus kicking everybody's budget and buying habits out of out of shape.
• 42:33
  They then observe the shock waves, which result by monitoring the changes in advertising prices and sales of that of other commodities. The objective of such studies is to acquire the know how to set the public economy into a predictable state of motion or change or even a controlled self destructive state of motion, which will convince the public that certain expert people should take control of the money system and reestablish security rather than liberty and justice for all. When the subject citizens are rendered unable to control their financial affairs, they, of course, become totally enslaved, a cheap sort a source of cheap labor. Not only the price commodities, but also the availability of labor can be used as means of shock testing. So it goes into for instance, says for example, there's a measure to quantitative relationship between the price of gasoline and the probability that a person would experience a headache, feel a need to watch a violent movie, smoke a cigarette, or go to a tavern for a mug of beer.
• 43:31
  And it's most interesting that by observing and measure out, and measuring the economic models by which the public tries to run from their problems and escape from reality, and by applying the mathematical theory of operations research, it is possible to program computers to predict the most probable combination of created events, shocks, which will bring about a complete control and subjugation of the public through a subversion of the public economy by shaking the plum tree. Like, 1950 That was
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: written before AI was even dreamt of.
• 44:02
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Like, anyway, this
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: incredible. It's mind
• 44:05
  Seth Holehouse: blowing, man. Yeah. It's it's it's mind blowing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that a lot of people in, like, on Twitter, for example, like, in the public, especially, like, who you who would get branded as conspiracy theorists. I think too often overestimate the skill of the human capital of the people trying to control the world. Like they overestimate the skill of like CIA operatives as though they had the resources, the budget, and the ability to, like, run a whole bunch of fake, like, influencers or run a whole bunch of fake like like, to do things that are far more complicated than people realize. And they under I think a lot of people underestimate the skill and advanced abilities of things like economic, like analysis like that, of AI manipulation of our sort of thoughts and public perceptions of our culture, those are where I get really worried because you don't need, you know, a huge team of thousands of agents to do that kind of thing.
• 45:08
  You just need a room with a couple really smart people and some algorithms, and you can run that for days from anywhere in the world.
• 45:16
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• 45:57
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• 46:32
  Right? And and through their own, you know, probably really, you know, probably very advanced computers for the time because we know their technology is far beyond what we perceive it to be. Yeah. But then imagine what they can do now with not only the algorithms and the AI, but also the amount of data they're bringing in. Like, I'm convinced that they've got like, that my phone, for instance, is reading my brain waves.
• 46:54
  I'm convinced it's reading my thoughts. It sounds like I'm some tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, but, like, I've seen videos of people that actually they've gone and they've actually looked at they did a search on Google or on Facebook. They then thought about something heavily for the next two days, like puppy food. Puppy food. Puppy food.
• 47:10
  Uh-huh. And they'll find that the ads for puppy food start coming up in their feed. Like, I've seen the videos of this, and so
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I would not put it out the question. At this point, I don't put much out of the question because, like, a lot of things that were supposed to be tinfoil conspiracy theories, we're not.
• 47:27
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And we know that there's a lot of advanced technology behind the scenes that we're not being told about. And in that case, Havana syndrome is just one obvious example of something that is clearly like a brain interfacing technology that does exist, that is acknowledged that they're not disclosing what it really is. Not to mention all the other UAP technologies that are behind the scenes at this point. Yeah. I would not put it out of the question.
• 47:51
  Seth Holehouse: So kind of a big picture question for you. So we're talking about the exposure of lies of all these different systems that people are now seeing through, like medical one being a big one. What in your opinion you do you think is one of the most significant and most important lies that you see right now as being exposed?
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's such a good question. There's a lot of obvious answers like trust the experts and trust the science. But I think that, I think from my perspective, the biggest lie that's being exposed right now probably actually has to do with capitalism and our health in the sense that we've all sort of been led to believe that corporations will lie and cheat. They'll do bad things for profits, but they won't necessarily collude on a grand scale or push large agendas in order to, like they wouldn't take it that far, right? But a lot of the disclosure that's happening across multiple areas are starting to expose how it's not just that this group is profiting off of your sickness, but this group is profiting off of causing your sickness.
• 49:17
  This group is profiting off of like the care. And there's just so many aspects, whether it's from the COVID angle or it's the chronic disease angle, or it's like the healthcare industry, like COVID did so much to expose the way that the medical system can be purchased and or subverted. And once that lens, now that it's being turned back on all the other questions about our chronic health, about our hormonal health, about other social movements happening around such things. I think a lot of people are subtly starting to wake up to the confluence of all of those things and looking at the health of American citizens today, and not just the physical health, but also the emotional and mental health of Americans today. And I say this is maybe the biggest thing yet because it's not even getting all put together yet by too many people as one bigger picture.
• 50:09
  But the bigger picture is that all of these corporations and darker interests in our world are all profiting in their own ways off of us all being sick, distracted, unhealthy, and unhappy. And we all sort of had a sense of that in various arenas for a long time, I think, a lot of people did, but it's starting to come really into focus how broad that spectrum is and how many people are making money off of it in different directions and how, I mean, there's a lot of problems in the world today, but I think the biggest problem at home is mental, physical, and emotional health in all of its forms, causing problems like homelessness crises, causing problems like gender crises, causing problems like all these social crises that come out of us not being healthy, happy humans with a strong community.
• 50:55
  Seth Holehouse: So it's almost like if if you imagine that humans are a bunch of rats living in this little society that they've made in a big cage, and they feel like they're they're pretty happy. They're going pretty well. But then, you know, the rats realize that the humans in the lab coats have actually been poisoning their food every day. Right? And and they're like, oh, that you know, these rats are dying off and, oh, there's a granny rat and she she died, but that that wasn't right.
• 51:17
  And so they're they're realizing that the people they thought were controlling and looking after them are actually the ones that are killing them and keeping them intentionally sick and keeping them in a cage. And and it's it's it's interesting that you mentioned that because obviously, there's things like free energy and and ether and some of Tesla's research that, you know, now, like, Ashton's a big guy that's bringing that kind of information up now, which is huge. Like, that changes a lot of things if you realize, like, wait. Like, I can generate energy by building this device that actually captures it from the air the same way my computer, you know, gets Wi Fi. Right?
• 51:51
  So that's a big one, but I think that in terms of people actually experiencing at a visceral level the lie That there's nothing quite like the fact of realizing that your own physical body has been poisoned, and they're trying to actually kill you. And whether it's the fluoride in the water, or the chemtrails, or the the jabs into the children, whatever it is, like, that's a big one. I think that that I mean, do you think that as that gets unveiled, that enough people will see the truth that there's some sort of populist uprising against not just like, say, a particular government, but just people uprising against the system, like that the rats are gonna realize, hey, we gotta break out of this cage. We should be living in the forest. Let's like eat the jugulars of these people that are doing this to us.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's very rats of NIM, the secret of NIM going on out here. And yeah, I think it's inevitable. I think that people get caught in like, it's the same in finance. People get caught looking at like the daily chart, the micro view, and it's always, when in doubt, zoom out, and every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
• 53:00
  Every pendulum swings back. And so the more evil that's spewed into the world, the more people are affected by that and are woken up to it. And it's the most obvious way to look at that is to just look at how, as the economy has gotten worse and worse and worse over the last six years or whatever, more and more people have felt that financial pain and that financial pain alone serves to wake people up beyond all the other factors that are serving to wake people up. And so people like manipulation of the health industry has been happening for decades, but it's not until they go full COVID on the world and do all these lockdowns and inevitably make lots of mistakes and get lots of things wrong and fail to cover up all the crime that that inherently cracks their own system. The same could be said of what's happening in The Middle East right now.
• 53:52
  It's like, if you do a slow drip of evil into a thing, it's a lot easier to miss. But the more you inject evil into a system, good is an inherent part of all people. Like God and the opposite are inherent to all systems. And so the more that evil has prevailed, the more that evil is in us, in our world, the more people inherently wake up to look for the good and see the evil all around them. And so I think that people can be pretty like depressive and low on hope about the whole situation, but inherently the more they make us sick, the more our spirit inherently yearns to be healthy again.
• 54:35
  Seth Holehouse: It's such a good point. And actually, I I go back to the the whole yin yang a lot with this. Yeah. And looking at just the the mutually opposing forces of of good and evil of up and down, and which you love it also ties into I see it's kinda cool. You got your mason jar water cup there.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Drink your water.
• 54:54
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is a Berkey water from a well. It's not, you know, fluoride city water. So Yep.
• 55:01
  But I I had that sense also, and I I'm really glad also that you mentioned earlier that this feeling that it can feel like the world has gotten so much more evil. But I really believe that evil the greatest strength of evil if the evil has is its ability to cloak itself, and that when the evil is hidden, it's actually the most strong. Right? The the criminal that's that's trying to kill you is most powerful when it's high when he's hiding in the closet, you have no idea that he's there, because he can catch you off guard. But if you walk in your living room, you see him sitting in the in the corner with a knife in his hand, you've got a chance actually, like, hey, like, you're gonna kill me, and I'm not gonna let it happen.
• 55:41
  So I'm gonna kill you first. And so I think that it is tough, right? And it's also I'm sure that you've experienced this as being someone that's trying to expose these truths. It's difficult sometimes to be looking at this stuff and realizing, gosh, this is real, especially as you get into the stuff with children and, you know, getting into some of the ritual sacrifice and SRA victims. And like, that's some heavy stuff that, you know, I've listened to some interviews with people that have been part of SRA families, and it's like, that's satanic ritual abuse for those who aren't familiar with it with the name.
• 56:11
  And it's stuff. It really is. But the fact that so many people are seeing it now, that does give me hope. And so what do you now I'll ask you to kind of extrapolate into the future a little bit because I love getting into more like these philosophical discussions. Like, what do you now that these cracks are forming in this dam, right, or or the cave we talked about, the walls are crumbling, and the sunlight starting to kind of peer through these cracks, and everyone's kinda seeing, hey, what's that?
• 56:38
  They're looking away from the shadows. They're turning off CNN, and turning off the, you know, Hollywood, you know, movies, and, you know, MGM records, and all this kind of stuff. They're seeing it. How do you see it playing out? Like, we're because we're up against this this cabal that's very powerful, very well funded.
• 56:56
  And and there, you know, a lot of ways very desperate to maintain control. So as more people wake up to this and that system weakens and weakens, what do you see as the nexus? Like, how does that unfold where the good actually shifts and becomes more powerful than the evil in this world?
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: This is where I think realism is really important. And it's important not to go to war with rose tinted glasses, so to speak. You should go into a hard time prepared for hard times and you shouldn't be afraid of that. You should be invigorated by that. You should be excited by that.
• 57:38
  You should be excited to be able to do your best in those times. And I think that times are gonna get harder before they get better because inherently as the evil in our world is challenged, it will rise to do everything it can to hold its power. And as we've been talking about just now is that evil is largely based on a system of lies and it needs rely on those lies. It needs a world filled with lies in order for evil to self perpetuate. And the moment that truth starts to get told, evil has to fight back against that because all of these corrupt systems are alert.
• 58:11
  Like, lies are their or rather truth is their kryptonite. And they have so far controlled the media space so effectively for, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of years, that it's been relatively easy for them to just sort of like perpetuate their plans and do what they're doing. But now that truth is being decentralized, now that we all have so much power to learn and to share and to speak, they have to come for that. And we've already seen them trying in multiple ways over the last couple of years. And it makes me think of a quote that I heard Ryan Dawson once say, I don't know if he's the original man that said it, but he said that for a lie to be perpetuated, you have to say it over and over and over.
• 58:53
  But for a truth to be perpetuated, you only have to hear it once, right? Because a lie has to be reinforced. Like a lie has to Because it is counter to what you observe all around you. Whereas the truth is immediately apparent. And when you hear it, you can't help but start to see it yourself.
• 59:10
  And so I think the truth is inevitable just by the nature of truth. And the only thing that can uphold lies is a system that fights actively to subvert the truth. And so I expect us to be moving into a year where there's a lot more attacks on free speech, a lot more censorship incoming, a lot more attacks on platforms like X and people like Elon Musk trying to undermine them financially, undermine them politically, blackmail them, whatever it is. And I think that we all need to be prepared to expect those things, to move with those things, and be ready for possibly some rather hard times, be that financial, spiritual, or potentially even physical. Like it's possible that we're looking at some sort of larger scale armed conflict in the next three to ten years or something.
• 59:57
  And hard times make hard men. And so we've been in the times where easy men made easy times. And those easy times are about to get back around to the hard times where we're all going to have to step up to the plate.
• 1:00:12
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Certainly. Someone I had a show on recently. They they told me the quote. Think it was Saint Augustine.
• 1:00:18
  Says something to the effect of, like, truth is like a lion. You don't need to defend it. If you just release it, it'll defend itself. And I like that. And actually, there's one other quote I wanted to pull up that's really came to mind.
• 1:00:30
  Behold a pale horse, which this is like a very formative book in my my reading. And this is the great, you know, Bill Cooper. And at the beginning of this book right here, he puts this, this which was written by a guy named Delamour DeVarus, if I pronounce his name right. I think it's just it's worth reading because I think this right here highlights the importance of what you and I are both doing. It highlights the importance of what everyone that's watching this content is doing by sharing content, by participating and spreading the truth.
• 1:01:00
  And so it says, one basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies. And if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies and bring out that truth to set it on top of the mountain of lies, the entire mountain of lies will crumble under the weight of that one truth, and there's nothing more devastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth upon which the structure of lies was built. Because the shock waves of the revelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughout the earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had no desire to be awakened to the truth. I just always thought that was such a powerful
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yep. And that's exactly where we're at today is that they've sort of had, they've had a walled garden around the information space where they have been allowed to construct these mountains of lies. And we now have access to that walled garden and the truth is just pouring in. And it's taking time for everyone's individual space because obviously we all sort of have our own media spaces, our own little limited hangouts that we've cultivated around our own minds.
• 1:02:15
  But slowly, the truth is making its way into everyone's different media spaces through all different people waking up and speaking up.
• 1:02:22
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And I've seen with with yourself that you've just exploded on Twitter. And I think recently, there was a show you were doing. You had, like, 60,000 people watching live. Like, it was some just crazy like, you know, that's that's like prime Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  That's prime time, you know, like like, CNN type level of of people tuning in. I mean, it's incredible, but it's it's people like you that are not controlled by the CNN agenda, not owned by BlackRock, etcetera. So
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: It's mentioning too that
• 1:02:50
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Please.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Some of those livestreams, like, one of them one of the biggest ones that I've done so far, it reached up to a hundred thousand people watching live on a Friday night. And it was a four hour long livestream where we were just reading FBI documents about 09:11. And it wasn't like some high production value, exciting show with guests and flashy. It was just me hanging out, reading real evidence about what really happened on 09:11 that's in the public record. And that grabbed a hundred thousand live viewers out of nowhere.
• 1:03:23
  Like, that is so cool that there's that appetite for truth out there. And that that is like, you can just be a single person in a room with a camera and draw that much attention to evidence of crime, evidence of corruption, just what like, people are just that interested to know that. And the mainstream news is doing, like, everything they can to just get any amount of dollars they can just to stay afloat at this point.
• 1:03:48
  Seth Holehouse: It's crazy. So as we we wrap up, I wanna make sure that we draw attention to your Twitter, handle. So this is, Ian Carroll at cancel clo co. I'll make sure that I put all of your links into the, description. You've also I wanna encourage people to also check you out on YouTube.
• 1:04:05
  Right? This is another place that people can watch, your your videos. Great production. I mean, obviously, are watching you now. They know what kind of person you are and how how well you can speak.
• 1:04:14
  So here's your YouTube channel. I'll put that link in. Do you
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: have a Rumble channel set up? I do. Both Rumble and YouTube is cancel this conspiracy.
• 1:04:23
  Seth Holehouse: Okay.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: So in general, on the short form platforms where it's vertical, I'm cancel this clothing company. When I started moving into the long form platforms, I wanted to give myself a slightly different brand with a little more space. So cancel this conspiracy on YouTube and Rumble. And I'm really excited to grow that more, both with interviews and live streams like this, with all sorts of different documentary style videos. It just opens up the possibilities for so much more.
• 1:04:47
  Seth Holehouse: Great. Now tell us about Cancel This Clothing Company. Let me see. I've got the let's see. Where is the I think I had the link open.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cancel This Clothing Company. I mean, really, it was just a fun name. It was kind of just a fun name that I specifically designed when I started on TikTok to be catchy and memorable, but also a little mysterious and weird. And I knew that starting on TikTok, it would be good to have an alternate revenue source, but I also didn't I knew that it would be best not to push it.
• 1:05:14
  So it kind of started as an inside joke of like, yeah, I'll make some clothing on the side and people can buy it if they want, but I never pushed it or anything. And I don't sell that much of it. I sell a fair A little bit. But for the longest time, for months, none of my followers even knew that I sold clothing. And it was kind of became an inside joke among us.
• 1:05:30
  So if anyone does want any the shirts they see me wearing like food, not pharma or seek the truth, follow the money, it's all there. And I make about 3 to $5 off of each shirt. But really the website is just a simple landing page for people to find all my socials from. I've got a bunch of spreadsheets that I publish for free. If you go to the resources tab at the top there, on the left there, you can see there's a whole bunch of links to various spreadsheets where I have done a whole bunch of research in grocery stores.
• 1:05:58
  These are all free resources there. And it has all the different brands and companies that you find on your grocery store shelves for products like cereal or tampons or baby food. And it'll tell you which brands are owned by giant mega corporations and which brands are owned by family and founder owned companies, which can make a huge difference if you start switching your purchasing from giant corporations that are all held by BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street and bring it all back down to local companies, small businesses. And it's not that hard. A lot of times it's the same exact prices.
• 1:06:33
  It's just the knowledge of which ones are actually just the illusion of choice and which ones are actually a a real company doing something real with their products.
• 1:06:42
  Seth Holehouse: Which is which is really important because not only are you supporting small businesses and not supporting these giant companies, but you're also you're buying products that they're not gonna, you know, give you cancer in three years. Like, you know, aluminum and your deodorants and all kinds of stuff.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yep. The first one that I did was actually the tampon aisle. It just kind of occurred to me. It's like, I'm in the grocery store right now. I could just go straight to the aisle and take a photo.
• 1:07:06
  And then I started coloring out all of the companies that were actually just Johnson and Johnson or Procter and Gamble or And it turned out that like my entire grocery store aisle, like the whole shelf of tampons, there was only like this tiny little, like one little product that was not a giant mega corporation. And all of those tampons are full of carcinogenic compounds, but also like repro toxic compounds. As in when they are in a place near to your reproductive organs, they are toxic to your reproductive organs. And so tampons is a great example of a product that it's really good to get from a female founder owned company that actually cares about your reproductive health instead of putting literal poison into your reproductive products.
• 1:07:50
  Seth Holehouse: It's it's just insane. It's insane. Yeah. Ian, it's been such a pleasure having you on. I I look forward to many more of these shows.
• 1:07:57
  I I think we could talk for hours and hours and, just thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for being a voice for truth out there. I encourage anyone who's watching or listening. I I really encourage them to follow your Rumble channel. That's where I try to direct most of people because I've been so I'm so censored and shadow banned on YouTube.
• 1:08:15
  And, of course, the YouTube users, it's there. We'll put it in there. But let's see if we can get your your Rumble channel to grow. There is
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: there's content on my Rumble that's not on my YouTube, because YouTube won't let me talk about certain things.
• 1:08:26
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Yep. And actually, I think we we can put this one on on YouTube as well, because I think that we Yeah. We didn't hit any of like the the the YouTube stuff. So unfortunately, like most of my content is not on YouTube, and people on YouTube will comment like, why do you only cover financial news?
• 1:08:40
  It's like, well, is it like that's the only thing I can cover without talking about like, the globalist plans that kill us all. So anyway, it's been it's been awesome having you on here. Any final words as we wrap up?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just really appreciate it, Seth. This was a really fun conversation. I loved all the cool resources that you brought in and the and some of the great quotes that you brought in. That was really cool. And I'm excited to go check out this book that you were mentioning.
• 1:09:03
  So thanks a lot for having me on, and I look forward to the next time.
• 1:09:06
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