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Terrell Owens Talks CTE, Tupac, Comedy & Life After Football · Get TO The Point

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Get to the Point. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Terrell Owens.
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  Speaker 2: And this is my co-host, Tony Romo. Chris Spitzer. You
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  Speaker 2: almost did it exactly the way you did.
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  Speaker 1: It on TV. No, I'm an ugly crier, bro. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an ugly crier. You know how women say they're ugly criers?
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  Speaker 1: I look at myself and I see that clip and
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, I cringe. I had like a beard growing.
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  Speaker 1: I had those ugly, big ass shades.
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  Speaker 2: Ray-Bans?
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  Speaker 1: No, they weren't Ray-Bans. They was Ray-Nans. But Romo must
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  Speaker 1: have felt good, you know, you cried for him. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he felt good or not.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to Romo since, that was 2010. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't talked to him since then. Oh, y'all ain't friends? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, me, no. Were you friends with him then? Yes, absolutely, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Those boys. You know football is like a brotherhood. Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's a brotherhood. So, I mean, and as everybody has
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  Speaker 1: kind of found out, I hate it, it's like it
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  Speaker 1: takes time for people to kind of get to know people. Right.
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  Speaker 1: know who they really are. Like, I've always been that
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  Speaker 1: type of person. It's like, me and you, like, we bros,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Anything happen to you, vice versa,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to protect you, you protect me. And that's
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  Speaker 1: how I was in that locker room with any of
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  Speaker 1: my teammates. And then with that unfortunate situation, we end
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  Speaker 1: up losing against the Giants and they had gone on
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  Speaker 1: You know, Mexico, him and some of his boys. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't invite you? The week of, no. Did you cry again? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: My focus, I'm a different animal when it comes to football.
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  Speaker 1: But my thing was they tried to blame the loss
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  Speaker 1: on him and his friends going to Mexico on vacation. Like, really,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't have anything to do with it. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: the vacation was before. Yeah, I'm a person that can compartmentalize. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So whatever I did like
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  Speaker 1: a week before or a day before, They ain't got
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with what we're doing right now on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: the game. They just tried to make up something to
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  Speaker 1: justify why we lost. So, yeah, I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I took up for him. I felt for him in
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  Speaker 1: that situation. And then, yeah, I haven't talked to him
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  Speaker 1: since then. This is Get to the Point, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: G-T-T-P podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, you get good at that, boy.
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  Speaker 2: G-T-T-P, are you with me? I like the shows when
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  Speaker 2: it's just me and you. I love our guests.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: But it's good that, you know, I've known you 20
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  Speaker 2: plus years, but I don't know how many times we've
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  Speaker 2: ever just sat down. We've never.
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  Speaker 1: Nah.
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  Speaker 2: It's always been after an event. On the fly, on
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  Speaker 2: the go, events. Dave Brown is somewhere nearby.
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  Speaker 1: Throwing oops, all that type of stuff. I got to
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  Speaker 1: get the video of me throwing oops. Yeah, yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: think that'll be a good kind of like intro to
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Griffith, a dear friend of both of ours,
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  Speaker 2: had a celebrity basketball game, 1998. And it was you,
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  Speaker 2: Randy Moss, Chris Carter, Dwayne Rudd.
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  Speaker 1: Boyz II Men, Morris Chestnut, Dwayne Martin.
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  Speaker 2: It was star-studded. And I just remember coming down, and
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  Speaker 2: we already know the athlete you are. I could just
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  Speaker 2: go like this and throw it just anywhere in the area,
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  Speaker 2: and you would.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll go get that thing.
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  Speaker 2: But you, Randy, everybody. I didn't know Chris Carter had
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  Speaker 2: hops like that. First play to get it, he leaned
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  Speaker 2: from the dot, and I was like, where am I?
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  Speaker 2: NFL season is here.
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  Speaker 1: You remember.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I got cut right before the season. What's
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  Speaker 2: that feeling like before game one?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was nerve-wracking for me, like my first
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  Speaker 1: few years, because I always felt like I got to
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  Speaker 1: prove myself and I wanted to make the team. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to make any mistakes. So it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of anxiety, especially if you're like a first rounder, second rounder,
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  Speaker 1: you're pretty much solidified. You know what I mean? You
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  Speaker 1: know you're going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's still a little hungry dude right there
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  Speaker 2: waiting for you to mess up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if they put a lot of money into it,
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  Speaker 1: for example, Cleveland Browns, what they're doing with Deshaun Watson,
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  Speaker 1: you know Shador Sanders, he can really play. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: because of the money invested in Deshaun, they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to just let him walk out the door. Yeah. For me,
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  Speaker 1: it was just me wanting to make my, honestly, my
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  Speaker 1: family proud because I knew that we were going to
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  Speaker 1: be on TV. Right. Especially my early years, my first
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  Speaker 1: two or three years. You know, I wanted to prove
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  Speaker 1: myself and then I just wanted to, I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to mess up. You know what I mean? Because, bro,
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  Speaker 1: I had Jerry Rice, you know what I mean, to follow. Right. J.J. Stokes.
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  Speaker 1: So I was in the wings of both of these
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  Speaker 1: guys and honestly, I just wanted to contribute. Do well personally,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You have your personal stats
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  Speaker 1: and then you have your team goal, your team stats
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  Speaker 1: and things of that nature that you want to accomplish.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there's always, I mean, if you
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  Speaker 1: play this game, you're going to have some nerves, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have some anxiety and then you hear it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. Once that first hit or the whistle
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  Speaker 1: blows or, you know, basketball player wants the ball tossed up, like,
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  Speaker 1: you're ready to go. He's ready to go. Okay. I
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  Speaker 1: know we've talked about Josh Allen kind of being overrated,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still a great talent, great quarterback. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's so funny.
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  Speaker 2: I had that same feeling about Josh Allen, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of rooting for him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody, the city of Buffalo is rooting for him,
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  Speaker 1: and I have been too. Last year, especially when the
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs weren't in the playoffs, And they've been
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  Speaker 1: knocking at the door like the last two to three years,
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  Speaker 1: and Kansas City has been knocking them out of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly felt like those years, especially last year, was
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  Speaker 1: their year. And, again, the inconsistency and then just the
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  Speaker 1: untimely bad plays that Josh Allen, you know, come up
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  Speaker 1: with is just, I mean, just wasn't the right time
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  Speaker 1: to play bad. And I get, I can't imagine what
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  Speaker 1: that's like, especially when you got the whole city of
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo riding on your shoulders, the team, you knowing that
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  Speaker 1: your Achilles heels that's been knocking you out, they're not
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  Speaker 1: in your way. So... It's really deceiving.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you're saying they're not in their way? Or you're
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  Speaker 2: saying they're back now?
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  Speaker 1: No, there's a notice. Like I said, when they were
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  Speaker 1: playing last year.
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  Speaker 2: And they weren't there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chiefs weren't in their way. Well, now they're back.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed like a clear path to the Super Bowl. Like, yo, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the team has been beating us every year.
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  Speaker 1: We couldn't get past them. They're no longer in our way.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, all we got to do is just win.
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  Speaker 1: But in order to win, you got to be mistake-free.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have turnovers, and those are the things that happen,
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  Speaker 1: especially as a quarterback. Sure, there are throws that he
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  Speaker 1: wished he could take back, but in that moment, you
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  Speaker 1: can't make those throws. If you see something there, it's
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  Speaker 1: not that you can't force it. Throw the ball away,
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  Speaker 1: lift to play another down.
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  Speaker 2: What quarterback would you think is the best at taking
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  Speaker 2: that gamble and coming through?
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  Speaker 1: Brett Favre, like a Brett Favre. Patrick Mahomes, like throws that,
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  Speaker 1: an average quarterback they wouldn't take, they wouldn't do, because
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  Speaker 1: they know they're like, oh, number one, they probably think
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be a pick, and if they do it,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be detrimental to the progress of getting
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  Speaker 1: to the end zone. Those are plays, again, you just
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  Speaker 1: got to be super-duper confident. If you're iffy, that's when
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  Speaker 1: things happen. But if you're just a gambler, you're a gunslinger,
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  Speaker 1: those are guys like Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Your Brett Favre,
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  Speaker 1: like they did that. Aaron Rodgers, you mentioned him. How
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  Speaker 1: old is Aaron now? Jesus Christ. Because Aaron was playing
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  Speaker 1: when I was nine. How old is Aaron Rodgers? How
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  Speaker 1: old is Aaron Rodgers? 42. You crazy, you crazy. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty old for a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of these quarterbacks, quarterbacks probably last the longest.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is, what makes him probably seem old is,
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  Speaker 1: number one, he's coming off that Achilles. Right. And he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't really played up to the standards as he did
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay. But the dude can really play. And
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  Speaker 1: I think if you think about what two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: the first play of the game, he tears his Achilles.
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  Speaker 1: Like there was like there was so much belief and
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  Speaker 1: hype in that season. And then obviously it went straight
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  Speaker 1: down the drain. And then obviously you coming back and
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  Speaker 1: then there was rumors him coming back that that season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was crazy, bro. You talk about. something heroic and
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  Speaker 1: like barbaric and that's like some shit you would do
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  Speaker 1: right that that would trust me if he would have
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  Speaker 1: done that bro it would have eclipsed anything that that
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  Speaker 1: i did attempted to do now you have the the
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  Speaker 1: re uh emergence resurgence of of a coach that he
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  Speaker 1: had um in green bay mike mccarthy um that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be i think for somebody when you have somebody that
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  Speaker 1: of of familiarity. Right. That's going to make you want
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  Speaker 1: to play well. Right. You're comfortable with the plays. There's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of decision, you know, decision makings that
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  Speaker 1: you have to do learning a new offense. Because y'all
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  Speaker 1: know each other. Yeah. It's going to make things that
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  Speaker 1: much better. And then obviously you're going on, they're playing
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, Tua, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how he's going to hold up the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the year. I am hoping and I'm praying that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have any concussions. But I just, I just don't
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  Speaker 1: really think he's going to make it throughout the course
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  Speaker 1: of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Tua?
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  Speaker 1: Tua.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if he does, you know, he'll text himself and say,
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  Speaker 2: great job.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny. Did you see that? Yeah, I saw that, man.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you don't know, Tua.
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  Speaker 1: Burner account, right? He had a.
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  Speaker 2: Phone that said something, and then he used his, he
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  Speaker 2: thought he was congratulating himself on a burner phone, but
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  Speaker 2: he congratulated himself.
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  Speaker 1: From his real account. So I was like, good job, Tua. Love, Tua. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that may be part of the CTE. It
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  Speaker 1: could be part of the reason why, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about CTE in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Let's finish getting your picks. I ain't going to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: but that could be factoring into some of that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm really honest, and I know him personally.
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  Speaker 1: I worked out with Tua when he was at Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: I worked out when he was a true freshman. Went
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  Speaker 1: down there, worked out with him, Calvin Ridley, Cam Sims,
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  Speaker 1: all those guys. They were like, yo, this guy's going to...
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  Speaker 1: He could be starting right now as a true freshman.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what? This is when Jalen Hurts was starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, no way. They couldn't find Jalen.
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  Speaker 1: Worked out with the dude like he was making every
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  Speaker 1: throw on the December. What? Very cerebral guy. But to see...
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  Speaker 1: What he's gone through the last two to three years,
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  Speaker 1: it's scary. Geno Smith, he's on his last leg. He's
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  Speaker 1: been on a few teams in the last few years.
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  Speaker 1: I think last time they were the Los Angeles Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: didn't really play particularly well. It almost seems like he
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  Speaker 1: had checked out in a sense, and then this offseason
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  Speaker 1: had some issues, almost some domestic violence issues surrounding him.
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think he keeps getting so many opportunities?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Quarterbacks, bro, they probably get the most
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  Speaker 1: opportunities It's almost like they get nine lives. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Look at Teddy Bridgewater. I mean, left,
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  Speaker 1: came back, coached high school, won a championship, came back.
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  Speaker 1: Then you got Phillip Rivers, who came from the dead.
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  Speaker 1: He came back from the dead. He was wrapped in
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  Speaker 1: mummy gear. And he came back and played, which was
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  Speaker 1: very remarkable, which I already told people, like, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: If you can play the game, number one, given the opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: you can roll. Just like me. I just haven't. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't given the opportunity that some of these guys are
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  Speaker 1: being given. But yeah, I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of touched on the concussions situation with Tua.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And just recently, Drewski, who is like probably the hottest
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  Speaker 2: comedian on the planet right now with some of these
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  Speaker 2: infamous sketches, the things we do with the preacher.
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  Speaker 1: You call him comedian, content creator. He's not a standup comedian,
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  Speaker 1: but he's still a comedian. Yeah. No? So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can be a comedian. You are a comedian. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I chose you for this show. Okay, well, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. He's in a lot of controversy. The thing he
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  Speaker 2: did with the preacher, the thing he did with the
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  Speaker 2: NASCAR guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing he did with Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk, yeah. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and now.
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  Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: With the little football parody or the skit. The CTE thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For those who don't know, Drewski did a sketch about
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  Speaker 2: a football player getting CTE and kind of made humorous,
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  Speaker 2: but not funny to everybody, especially former DB, TJ Ward,
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  Speaker 2: who was like, you know, it's so funny. CTE is
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  Speaker 2: the only disease that people make fun of. Now, when
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  Speaker 2: he said that, I was like, is it a disease?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it an ailment? It's not a disease, right?
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  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I understand where he was coming from. However
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  Speaker 1: you categorize it.
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  Speaker 2: Is it something to be made light of?
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  Speaker 1: No. I mean, personally, no. And I could see where
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  Speaker 1: people are on the fence about the sketches or just
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  Speaker 1: what he was making fun of. Like I said, would
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  Speaker 1: you make fun of somebody got brain cancer or women
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  Speaker 1: that have breast cancer? Me personally, I wouldn't. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just such a sensitive topic now, especially
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  Speaker 1: with a lot of athletes now that are committing suicide,
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  Speaker 1: people are dying. Have you ever had a concussion? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've had a couple, not many. What does it feel like?
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  Speaker 2: Besides, like, the obvious to us is, like.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't remember. Like, one minute you are, everything
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  Speaker 1: is live. You have all your faculties about you. Then
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  Speaker 1: you get your bell rung a little bit. You don't
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  Speaker 1: remember nothing. Like, you can't remember, like, what I just said.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't remember what I just said, like, 30 seconds ago. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you just don't know anything. That's why they have the
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  Speaker 1: doctors come over. They have a series of questions to
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  Speaker 1: try to, you know, see where you are with your
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  Speaker 1: faculties or what have you. Like, what quarter are you in?
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  Speaker 1: What was the last play that was called? Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember what route you ran? All those things to try
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  Speaker 1: to figure out, okay, are you, do you still have
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  Speaker 1: your wits about you? But yeah, it's nothing. It's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit scary. I remember one game I was in St.
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  Speaker 1: Louis Rams. I ran a curl route and it was
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  Speaker 1: just a regular curl route. Caught the ball, got hit.
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  Speaker 1: And bro, I was like, something went wrong. I was like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: I blacked out for a second. Like I didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 1: It was black for like about three seconds. And then
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  Speaker 1: I came to, and I'm like, what, what had just happened?
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  Speaker 1: I went and I saw my team. So I just
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  Speaker 1: went back to the huddle, just natural, normal stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the huddle and I'm looking at all my
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  Speaker 1: teammates and I'm hearing the quarterback call to play. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at him and I knew we got to
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  Speaker 1: go out of the huddle. And I'm like, yo, what
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  Speaker 1: do I got? I'm in my, I'm in my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I have? And I'm talking to,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm running up to the huddle. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, what's the play? What do I got?
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  Speaker 1: What route do I run? What route do I run?
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was supposed to run.
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  Speaker 1: When the quarterback was talking, could you hear him? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I heard him. I heard everything. And I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: decipher like what he's saying. I hear him, but I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know what I had. I heard the play. And
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  Speaker 1: then I got to the line. I'm like, as I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to the line of scrimmage, I'm like, yo, what
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  Speaker 1: do I got? What do I got? And he didn't
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  Speaker 1: hear me, so literally when the ball snapped, bro, I
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  Speaker 1: just ran over the ball. He threw it to me
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  Speaker 1: and I caught it again. I caught it and I
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  Speaker 1: got the yardage on, didn't know what I was doing.
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  Speaker 1: I just ran over the ball, caught the ball, got
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  Speaker 1: a few more yards. And they knew something was wrong.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: But you knew something was wrong, but you didn't know
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: it was a concussion at the time, right?
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't really, I don't even know if I thought
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: about it. I just knew that I went back to
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the huddle I'm looking at everybody in the huddle. It
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: was like I'm watching the move and everything was like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, the close up, you know, this shot, this
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: is your shot. And I could see myself looking at
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: everybody and I'm hearing the play called. I just ran
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: over the ball. He threw it to me. It was
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: the wrong route, but they knew something was wrong. That's
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: when they brought me to the sideline. They took my helmet.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: They take you through the concussion protocol. Um, like I said,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: with the doctors, they're asking you all these questions and
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: then clearly I was just out of sorts for a second.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: And then by the time I got to the sideline,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like my bearings had come, come back to me. And, um,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's, I don't, I just don't honestly, I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: just don't honestly think that it's something to, to make
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: light of. And I think Drewski, yeah, my feelings about Drewski. Yeah. He's,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: he's fun. Everybody got a little humor to him, whatever,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: but some shit is just too far for me. Right.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I feel, I echo the same sentiments as TJ Ward.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know him personally. But we share the same
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: sentiments when I just don't think this is, just think
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: about DeMar Hamlin. He got hit. He nearly died on
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the football field. Those are the sensitivities I think where
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: people are coming from. And then, too, like the NFL
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: as a whole, like we don't have lifetime health insurance
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: like these other entities, other sports. Or guaranteed contracts, right? Right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And these are the things I think this is where
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of players are probably coming from. It's like, yo,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: we're already suffering as it is from a physical standpoint.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Then from a mental standpoint, while you're playing and post football,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: we go through so much, bro. Even my body has
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: gone through it. There are ailments that people just don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: know we go through in our homes. Like, bro, I've
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: had to go to the doctor for little things. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: don't say it. I don't show it. People are like, oh, bro,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you can play tomorrow. Like, yeah, I probably could. But
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: my body has taken... It has taken its toll, bro.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I've got taken a beating. And a lot of guys
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: that hit every day, practice, linemen hit every play. Defensive
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: linemen often– Helmet to helmet. They hit every play. And
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: he's a big guy, so he's making fun. And then Tua,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to do that right there, that's scary. That's a scary moment.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I know people have personal experiences with it, They have friends,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: they have family members that have gone through something as
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: serious as that could almost lose their lives. So I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: think sometimes like the sketches and the parodies, I think
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: it just goes too far. But you being a comedian,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've touched on a few comics or whatever
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: that have said some insensitive things. Where does the line
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: stop with you? Like where is the line? Do you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: feel like a line has to be drawn? Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I mean... We live in a different time. There were
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: some things that Pryor and Eddie and comedians of the
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: past got away with saying, but some of that stuff
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you can't get away with now. The whole controversy during
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the Kevin Hart roast with the George Floyd joke.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Comedians are different. We have a thicker skin.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I think Kevin got a lot of flack for not
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: sticking up for the George Floyd family when the joke happened.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Right, especially when he was there. Right. He was in
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: support of George Floyd, but didn't turn around.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But then in Kevin's defense, or the way Kevin defended himself,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff he did wrong, like I thought
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the way he handled it on The Breakfast Club. But
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: one thing he did say that I agree with is like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they're talking about my dead mother, my dead father.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But that's no excuse. That's almost like... That's an excuse.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying... I know it's the justification, but like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I said, that's almost an excuse. Like we're calling a
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: white person a racist and then like, oh, well, I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: have black friends. That's what that is. Not necessarily.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: In a sense. I think just what Kevin was saying
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: is he views comedy differently.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just like white people see
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it differently when we call them racist.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Well, just like I might, though I didn't, I might
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: find a CTE joke funny, but I'm not somebody who's
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: been offended. by CTE or had friends you know what
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I mean just like somebody might do a gay joke
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and I might be offended because my brother's gay no
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: my brother ain't gay but I'm just saying there's certain
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: things when it's familiar that makes you feel a certain
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: way you know what I mean.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Tell me is it is it any different than comedians
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: making fun of people with disabilities.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: So funny you said that because I do a joke
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: right now about a person who has a disability, right?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And I stopped doing it until a person with a
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: disability called me a bitch for not doing the joke anymore.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Basically was the spokesman for the people with disabilities. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: was like, you don't think we can take it? And
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, my friends told me, no, fuck that,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: We can take it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, because he was really going,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not normal?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You don't think I'm normal?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: So it's tricky.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Just like some white boys can say the N-word around
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: some of their black friends.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And they get a pass?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: They get a pass with them, but nigga, you can't
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: say it around me.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. You know what I mean?
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: So when it's familial, it's different.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: When is it acceptable? Just like Kev on stage, right?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Good friend of ours. There's some stuff he does in
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the clubs he can't do in the church. You know
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Right, right. it's knowing where you are
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: at all times. And I think, yeah, I think as
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a comedian, kind of like, I guess you got to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: pick and choose, you know what I mean? And then
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: understanding what you're doing, there's going to be some backlash
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to it. And I think once he probably starts seeing
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: opportunities slow down or people start canceling him, then maybe
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that will deter him from doing some of those kind
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of like sensitive. But who's been canceled?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Who's been canceled?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: They use the word cancel.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. I mean, exactly.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know anybody who's been canceled. I mean,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: so many people I've heard has been canceled. They're making
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: more money now.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Target took a hit. We canceled.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, definitely.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: They took a hit for a minute, especially for Halloween. Thanks, Viola. But.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Comedian-wise, you know, you've heard Dave got canceled and Tracy
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Morgan's getting canceled.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: People say that, but they don't follow through with it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It's funny when you get them in front of a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: microphone or behind a microphone or they're behind their phones
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: or their keys. Yeah, they say a lot of stuff,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: but then they don't follow through with it. It's like
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: an impulse thing. It's like in the moment.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: A lot of them don't believe what they say, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: it's easy to be behind the microphone.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, too, I think if people jumped on
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the train and, like, people just really... backed up what
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: they said, they walk the walk and talk the talk,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: then I think there will be some movement, but it's
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• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we got Niners, Rams.
• 23:06
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  Speaker 2: two days before, like the Rams, and be like, yo,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to play tomorrow?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I would look at this as a business trip. I'd
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: be like the Rams. I'd just get straight to business. Niners, Rams.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the Rams. The Niners have
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: had their share of issues all summer long. Yes. Oh, yes.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And the other issue is going to be the Rams. Yes.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: All right, Browns and Jags.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: We got two guys going against each other, former classmates, teammates.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Teammates, yeah. Shador. Colorado Buffs, Buffaloes. And Travis Hunter. Yep. Obviously,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: even with Deshaun Watson being the starter, I think he knows.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: If you don't know, it's a lot of pressure on him. Sure.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: He got to go out and deliver. He got to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: play well. I don't know how long that's going to last.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many games they're going to give
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: him to prove himself. He can't– He can't go 0-1,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: but this week may not look so good for him.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: He's going against the Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence, Travis Hunter. Those
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: guys were balling toward the end of the season. They
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: made the playoffs. I mean, honestly, I think if Travis
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: would have been playing in the playoffs, like they would
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: have gone further. Now Travis is 100% healthy. Man, trust me,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going Jaguars in this one all day.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Deshaun Watson's getting a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: lot of money. Is it possible that during the game,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: if he's playing bad, they'll bring in Shadur or Dillon?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. It depends on how bad he's playing.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: For some odd reason, they end up winning. I think
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: that's good for the Cleveland Browns. It's not going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: bode well for obviously Shadur. That means you're going to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: sit on the bench for a little bit longer. But, yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Deshaun knows that as soon as
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: he starts playing bad, especially if it's a stretch of games,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: His time in Cleveland is up.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: My daughter's favorite team, Baltimore Ravens versus the Colts.
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  Speaker 1: Got Daniel Jones, Indianapolis Colts quarterback. You got against versus
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I'm going Lamar Jackson in this one. They
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: got some speedy receivers, Zay Flowers. Yeah, I mean, Derrick Henry,
• 25:28
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• 25:32
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• 25:34
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• 25:39
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, they talk a lot of
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: shit online and then nothing happens. Unless you're Ray J
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and Orlando Brown, bro.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: What is Ray J doing?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Ray J has become famous again. For all the wrong reasons,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: by the way. It's like Brandy is now Ray J's sister. What?
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yo, Ray J, he has found a new- It's almost
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: like he's chasing a check or something, bro.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: What's going on? I mean, that whole little Twitch generation-
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Because it doesn't make any sense. To us- Well, maybe
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he has CTE, especially after that hit from Super Hot Fire.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: What kind of name is that? Super Hot Fire. That's
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a girl? No, that's a guy. Named Super Hot Fire?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Social media guy. He actually can fight. I saw him
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: have another fight. He ain't shaped like a boxer.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: He got some skills. He got some experience. He got
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: some fucking skills. He put those hands on Ray J.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The funniest part about when he hit Ray J, Ray
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: J was like, you do something instead of it's like
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you're fucking up the money what are you doing we
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: had a plan right but I mean this behavior is
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: really bizarre for me I mean I've been around Ray
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: J I've been around I know his sister like Raycon
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: electronics all the things that he's doing in the tech
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: field like bro and then obviously music musically inclined like
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I just thought he was on a path of really
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: being entrepreneurial, owning your own business, really being an example
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to the black community. Bro, it's just like.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I think he's having fun.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Bro, fun? Yes.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Did you see the Orlando Brown fight?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Bro, and then to see how out of shape he's gotten.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, he's an older man.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Bro, he got a.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: We all can't be like this for the rest of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: our lives, okay?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: He's got a booty do. You got a booty do?
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Your stomach's picked this time. Your stomach stick out farther
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: than your booty do? Bro, he got a stomach, bro.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Like, bro, it's... I know everybody's not me,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: but I just can't walk around. That's part of his image,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: his likeness, what he does. Being a musician, being in shape,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: things of that nature to promote your brand. Well, he
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: got in shape for his last fight, the one against
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Orlando Brown.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: How? Bro, he looked the same. I guess maybe because
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: we kept looking at Orlando Brown. and you keep saying
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that there's no entrepreneurship with these guys orlando brown i
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: don't know if you guys know this.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I don't really know a new line of bras coming
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: out not a new line of what brassieres did you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: see did you say bra bro they both had titties
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and stomachs like bro they look They both have BMW bodies.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: What's that stand for? Body made wrong. Bro, they look awful.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I think they announced the fight an hour before the fight.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Back to my point.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: They didn't have enough time to get in shape.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But back to my point, bro. Do you think it's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: just theatrics with Ray J? Is he chasing money, checks?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, and he's getting big checks.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Bro, how much are they getting? Because if they get
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: money like that, I'm about to get in the ring
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: with somebody. Yeah, who you want to fight? There's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: couple people. I just leave. I mean, if the money right,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I'm signing up. Okay.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Anybody who wants to fight T.O. for $ 2 million, DM us.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. At GTTP. Some I'll knock out for an
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: extra two. No, no.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: We got to act like you can't be knocking them out.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: No, I'm knocking people out. Because we got to get
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: two and three fights out. I'm the dog. You my promoter?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't going to be knocking motherfuckers out the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: first fight. You need to make the first fight close.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because if I knock somebody, ain't nobody going to
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: want to fight me. Ain't nobody going to want to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: fight you. You're fucking up my money.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Just like Ray J's told Super Hot 5, you're fucking
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: up the money. Right.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: That was crazy, right? So that, I mean, he just
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: kind of just throwing salt in the game, just letting
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: people know like... No, this shit is fixed. Yeah, like
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it's rigged.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: You remember back in the day when people talked trash,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: something usually happened after. Now these people get to hide.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You could talk shit to somebody from Fort Wayne, Indiana,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and then there's a guy... in San Diego and they'll
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: never meet. But when we talk trash, there wasn't that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: long this is trash.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: We talking trash right here. I gotta see you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I gotta see you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I know who to talk trash to too. And I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: know who not to talk trash to. Not to talk
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: trash to. I was just talking to tell them a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: story to, you know, we live in the suburbs. So
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if my kids can fight, right? Because
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they talk trash and then that's it, right?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Right. But when you grow up in the hood, you
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: know who can fight and who can't fight by fights, right? Right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I knew I could fight by the fights I had,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: but I was strategic with my fights.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Right, you know who you're not going to pick a
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: fight with.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't fight that motherfucker, but I'll fight that motherfucker.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Did you have many fights
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: growing up? Yeah, I got beat up a lot when
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I was a tattletale. Yeah, I was telling on people. T.O.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was a snitch? Yeah. I mean, yeah, we didn't call
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it snitch back then, but I know what I know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Are you talking elementary school, junior high school?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, junior high, like, yeah, junior high, you know. Not
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: really high school.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about when you had some size on you,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: high school.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't really have no size until I got
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: out of, like, college, really. How much did you weigh
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: in high school? 180, 85 pounds. That's some size for
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a high school receiver. No, I was 6'1. That's skinny,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: skinny and scrawny. Right. When I left high school, I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: was about 180, 185. So just think, like, my freshman,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I was like 170, 170. Like, I was, bro, tiny.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: And you were getting beat up then? I love the honesty,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: because usually people lie. I was knocking motherfuckers out in
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: high school.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't like you just telling me I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: got beat up. You said it. I know, but... Yeah,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got beat up, man, because, yeah, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: then that's what, honestly, that's what motivated me to get
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in the weight room. Right. I started taking whoopings and then,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I keep talking about my grandma, but she
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't having that. Right. She wasn't having that. You coming
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: in the house talking about somebody beat you up, you're
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: going to go out there and you're going to fight
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: them again. Right. Fight me or fight them. If you
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: get your butt whooping, you're going to get another butt
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: whooping when you get in the house. So it got
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to the point of like I got tired of getting
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: butt whoopings, two butt whoopings. So it was just like, man,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I got to do something. So I started lifting weights. Honestly, yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: So that helped me twofold. That lifting weights, I started
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to figure out that it helped me twofold. Number one,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: with football kind of helped me, you know, develop into
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: my football body. I needed strength and stuff. But then
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it gave me a lot of confidence too because I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: started to see the muscles here and there. So that
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: gave me a lot of confidence to really stand up
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: for myself. And then, too, at the same time, like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I wasn't finna go back in the house. And, like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: if I got in a fight, I wasn't telling my
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: grandma because, you know, what happened? If you got your butt,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you're going to get another butt whooping.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Have you hit somebody with this strength?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You hear about the thing, the fight, the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: man that happened when I was in Philly with Hugh Douglas?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You fought Big Hugh? Oh, got at him. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a story that before... Social media, where
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it is now? Before social media, well, where it is? Man,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it traveled across the league like we had social media,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like we had.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: That motherfucker weighed about 260, 270.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter. I was to the point, like, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: was a big receiver then. Right. And all I remember
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is my grandma would tell me, don't let nobody run
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: over you. I almost blacked out for a second. We
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: got at it, but I mean. We've talked about it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: We're friends now. That's great. And then he has his
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: version of the story. I have my version of the story.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And then there's people with their version that saw what happened.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: What do these people think? I held my own. I
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: held my own. And like I said, me and Hugh,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: we've talked about it. We're friends now. It's water under
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the bridge. But you talked about now, have I hit somebody?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I'm scared to know what I would do. with these
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: hands if I was in a boxing ring, to be
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: quite honest. I have so much probably like... You're fucking
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: up the money. Yeah, I have so much probably... You.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Think you can fight.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: We're going to find somebody. No, I mean, like I said,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not a punk by any means. I'm not going
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to go out provoking or looking for fights or anything
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of that nature. I'm going to protect me. I'm going
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to protect the people that I love, especially my kids. Anything,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, family, it's a trigger. You know what I mean?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I said, I'm a person that's going
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: to protect myself And I'm going to stick up for myself.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stand on business. So, yeah, I don't.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Go around. Looking for fights? Looking for fights. No. They
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: aren't licensed. They aren't licensed. You know what I mean? But,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, if somebody wants some smoke,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they'll get it. If I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: have to, I will. I slang these things. All right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Well, if there's anybody out there that wants some of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: my fighter, as you can see, you could be up
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to 270 pounds. Anybody from high school, junior.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: High, Donovan McNabb. Tony Romo. People ask me about this, like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: would you fight Donovan Bennett? Absolutely. Would I fight Romo? Absolutely.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I would go in there with so much rage, bro,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't stand a chance. And I'm telling them right now,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't stand a chance. All right. Would not stand a chance.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You can either hit me at TheRealChrisPencer or you can
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: hit us at GTTP.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: P.O.D. I like how I just become a fighter all
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: of a sudden. We're promoting fighting. Stop hitting your hands.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: You're going to mess them up. Man, we're supposed to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: be promoting positivity. Yes. All right. Well, speaking of positivity. Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: They finally are about to put away the murder of Tupac.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: This long- Awaited. Case from a dude who said he
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: did it 20 years ago. But that's never here again.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Did he say? Ben said he did it. For real?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: For real. He didn't pull the trigger, but he was
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the orchestrator of the event. He's an accomplice. Sort of
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like an accomplice. Yeah. Not sort of. He's an accomplice
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to the group. Yeah, he orchestrated. He's like hired. He gone.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: But what's so crazy about that is that it's been
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: 30 years that I'm pretty sure, do you think he's,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: had some anxiety or looking over his shoulder or just
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: knowing at some point, I think it would come to this.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: He probably was tired of looking over his shoulders.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Like, listen, I do. I need to go to jail.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I need to go to prison for this. Well, he
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: lived 30 extra years with free. Yeah. I think it's just,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate what happened. I mean, do you remember where
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you were when you heard Tupac? I was with the Niners, um,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in the Bay area. That's when I had honestly start,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: obviously in college, you know, dear mama, Tupac, like, all
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: the music, and then when I got to the Bay Area,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I used to go to like Fremont, San Angelo, Hayward,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: all those areas, and I used to go get my
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: hair cut in Fremont from a barber who obviously they
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: knew Tupac personally. When it happened, I was like, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: think it had happened and I went to go get
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: my hair cut. So that's when I started hearing all
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the barbershop talk and people in the Bay Area that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: knew him personally. And I'm like, man, that was like
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: my first year like being in california so i'm starting
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to know like all the bay area like hip-hop rapper
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: stars like young uh little mug mugsy and e40 too
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: short right i was starting to know i'm like yo
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: i'm right in their backyard coming from alabama and then
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: obviously tennessee and i'm like yo i'm like right here
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: in like california you know i mean i'm like this
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: is like the land of stars you know i mean
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: so yeah just yeah i yeah i was i was
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: my rookie year i remember when it happened and Obviously,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it was like a dark cloud over the Bay Area
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: because he was big in the Bay. Right. You know
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I got the call.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Like that night, a friend of mine who was in
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: that camp was giving me like, for lack of a
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: better word, play-by-play.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Play-by-play.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And I was like, she was in the car with him.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: She was telling me stuff that we found out later.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And it just seemed like a nightmare. I don't even
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: want to call it a dream.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Right. And then obviously then people started speculating, like it
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: was a setup, you know what I mean? They were
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: saying like, I think Suge said.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how you set him up in the car?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Right. Risk and not, like he could have been killed too.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah. So if there was like two people I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: wish I could have met, Tupac would have been one
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of them. And Michael, obviously Michael Jackson. Oh yeah. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: wish I would have gotten the chance to meet those two.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I got a chance to meet both of them. Really? Yes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: The big celebrity death that I was close to was
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: when Biggie died. So, you remember it was at the
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Peterson Museum.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Biggie is another one. I don't know nothing about the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Peterson Museum. Oh, down L.A. Fairfax and Wilshire. Yes. I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: thought it was my party.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So this was a Vibe magazine party. And they told
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: me it was my party. I used to host a
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: late night talk show. Google me, but there's only like
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: two pages. I had a late night talk show in 97,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: and they said this party was for me, and I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: remember earlier that day, I saw Diddy, I saw Biggie,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I saw Lil' C's, they were all standing at the
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: W Hotel in Westwood. So we were talking, blah, blah, blah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see y'all later. I said, yeah, I'll
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: see y'all at my party. And so Peterson Museum happens.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I get to the party and I noticed that there's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: pictures of everybody, Faith and maybe Carl Thomas and Foxy
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Brown and Lil' Kim.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, where my picture at? There's no pictures
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of me.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, maybe this... Ain't my party, right? So
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I was kind of sad that day.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: How did you think that was your party?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: They said it was the coming out party for Vibe
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: magazine TV show.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I was the host of Vibe. You don't remember?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: You don't remember those 11 weeks I was famous?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy. You just told me that's your whole party.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It was my party, I thought. And so we left.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I was sad. I was in the parking lot. Two
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: of my friends. We saw Biggie and them leave. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: then we just heard Melee. Biggie just got shot. Biggie just,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: We just saw him walk.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: We just saw him get in the car, whatever, five
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: minutes ago. Crazy.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: That's when he got shot. Right then. Fairfax and Wilshire. Wow.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: At the Peterson Museum at my party. What do you
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: think about Messi retiring?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know he was getting ready to retire.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, so as a player that has played a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: long time and then you kind of know if you're
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: pushing the envelope or not trying to play more years
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: than your body's really ready to. He didn't really seem
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: like he was slowing down. It's just like Cristiano Ronaldo.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was kind of like, and David Beckham,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: they were like at the height of their career, messi's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: been playing at a high level like right even now
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: like for him to retire like he was like at
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the top like the face of soccer like he was
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: one at all in fifa right like he was doing
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: his thing so um what did you know i did
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: i didn't know because i was still playing at a
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: high level it was it was things outside of my
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: my physical abilities that prevented me from playing you know
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: i mean it was more political stuff because even when
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: i my last two years they weren't looking for me
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: to even really contribute. And I outplayed both starting receivers
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: the last two teams that I played for. Ocho? Ocho
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Cinco and Boy Chad in Cincinnati and Lee Evans in Buffalo.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: And then management had the nerve to tell me from
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the beginning before I even signed him, like, well, we
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: can't guarantee him a starting spot. Where is this coming from?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about that. I was always competing and, again...
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Earning your spot. Yeah. So, you know what I mean?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But it was more... politics more things political that prevented
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: me from really going out on my own terms but
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I think I applaud you know Messi for being able
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: to be aware self-aware and like I said he knows
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: like as an athlete you know your body better than
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: anybody and obviously I'm pretty sure he did a lot
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: of recovery even with LeBron he knows his body better
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: than anybody and I know these last four or five
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: years with LeBron maybe the last two or three his
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: body has taken a toll you've seen it he's not
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the high-flying guy he still can dunk whatever He can
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: do all those things. But it's a lot of wear
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and tear that goes on when you so many games, traveling,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: all those things. But LeBron has been able to do
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it at an exceptional level because he's able to really
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: hone in and know what he needs to take care
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: of his body to be able to perform at the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: level that people want him to. So Messi, I mean,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: kudos to him. Hell of a career, obviously. He's one
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of the top soccer guys that I know. Obviously, talk
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: about backing at Pele. Some of those guys like that
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and then obviously David Beckham who came over he would
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: kind of like really kind of introduced the states You
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: know to to soccer when Beckham came over and played man.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It was it was it was awesome So and then
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Cristiano Ronaldo Those guys I mean obviously they took care
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: of themselves But then at some point like said they
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: said father time is is gonna come knock at your door.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I know me as a former athlete how I felt
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the things I miss as a professional.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Athlete, but I I don't know why you always laugh.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Can you Google my stats, please?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Man, you sound like Skip Bayless. One point something average.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: That five minutes of fame was great. What do you
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: miss most? Is it lining up? Is it putting the
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: cleats on? Is it camaraderie with the guys?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: People ask me all the time. I miss the competition.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a competitor. I'm like I'm like Kobe, MJ in
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a sense. That's how my mind was. My teammates, they'll
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: tell you. Like, man, I was miked up a lot
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: of games. You know what I mean? I was ready
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: for the game. Once I realized my skill set and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: my talent and I knew what I could do and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I knew that I was unstoppable. You know what I mean?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: That's how much I believed in myself. And then, like, yeah,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: just to be around the guys. What I wish I
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: would have done is had more fun with the game.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Because you were too serious.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yep. I wish I would have like interacted and like
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: what people see now in the podcast and stuff like that.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: He smiles.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always been that. He's charming. He's funny. I know.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't get to see that side of you.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: No, but. Listen, off the field.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: When we embark on this boxing career, I need you
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Motherfucking Muhammad Ali. Oh, you got to do a tell
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: me what the channel.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Was the mic on still?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: You got to do a tell me what the channel.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I'm there. But yeah, but that's how it was. I
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: was like, bro, I just and I didn't I didn't
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: have a chip on my shoulder because I came from
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a small school. I just knew that. my coaches, they
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: saw something in me that I didn't see in myself.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: And then once I tapped into it and I started
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: to see really the fruits of my labor, like training
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: in the off season, like seeing what it did to my, my, the,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the preparation. And then I started to see the, the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: optimization of my performances. Like I was hooked. It was like,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I was hooked on crack. Once I saw what I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: did in off season. And then I saw the benefits
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: of it. I'm like, yo, I didn't have no time
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: for no playing no game. I'm like, yo, this is serious.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I saw what Jerry is, who he is, what it
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: can do, what it can do for you. I'm like,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I want to do that for my family. Did you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: have friends in the NFL? Yeah. It's a lot of us.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: We talk now. That's good. And that's what people don't
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: know about me. They don't think that because I was
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: so serious. And again, I'm still going to be me.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I'm a no-nonsense guy. I'm going to stand on my business.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And I know how the world operates. And I started
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: to see how people looked at athletes in general. And
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: then I saw how White America looked at us as
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: black athletes. And I heard these things growing up with
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: my grandmama. And I didn't really compartmentalize, I didn't really
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: think about it as I grew up. But then once
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I got into the space, I'm a grown adult, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I started to see some of these things unfold. I'm like, yo,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: this is what she was talking about.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't happening to you, it was happening to her.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Right. And you were just printed to the stories then. Yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: now things are starting to happen to me. maybe something indirectly.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: We talk about systemic racism. All those things were starting
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to happen to me, how people looked at me, how
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: they talked about me. I wasn't even really doing anything wrong.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But it was because I was a black man. I
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: seemed proud, like too confident for a lot of people.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And I wasn't coming, I wasn't consciously thinking that way.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: That's just who I was and how I was raised.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Like all of the people, all the highlights and the
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: clips that people see and people think that I talk trash,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: those are just sideline highlights. You never saw me do
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: any of that during... During the course of the game,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: it was always with sound bites when I was on
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the sidelines because I knew where the cameras was. I
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: knew what they were wanting. And then, like I said,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I became an entertainer in a sense.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Speaking of entertainment, I know you watch a lot of TV.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love movies. My favorite movie, before you even
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: ask me, my favorite movie for all the ladies.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Don't be a menace to South Central while drinking your juice.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. But my favorite movie is The Notebook.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: It touches on Alzheimer's. My grandmother passed from that, so
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that's why I love it. And then obviously there's some
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: romantic scenes that I love. Great movie. Rachel McAdams, Ryan Gosling,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: those two. I love those scenes. James Carter. Let me
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: ask you a question.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Is that one of those movies, if you're getting ready
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: to leave the house and it's on, you'll watch it
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: from anywhere it is?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Bro, let me tell you what I did. I was
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: in Georgia, watched it at a theater. I went with
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: somebody and I cried in the movie. My tear duct
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: on my left side, it's more loose than my right.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: So I started crying and tears were going down on
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: my left side. They didn't see it. But I was
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: so emotional watching. Why are you laughing at me, bro? Bro,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: you're rude. I'm telling you a heartfelt story you laughing
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: you can't see i'm crying but anyway no i'm gonna
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: tell a lie i was so moved and like i
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: said it was it was emotional to me do you
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: see why i.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Said you could do stand-up this teardrop was Right.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: But it was so, so moving to me around that
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: time because my grandmama had Alzheimer's. Now you just made
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: me feel like shit. Yeah. But I'm bringing it back.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's why I got so moved and I
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: was so emotional about it. And then I watched it
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: in the theater and when it came out, I remember
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: going to Best Buy. And when it came out on DVD,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I bought damn near every, like the movie meant so
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: much to me and people that didn't watch it and go,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, have you seen it? They was like, no,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I got it for you. I got more. I got
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the DVD for you. Yeah. It was like I was
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: selling them out. I bought them, but I didn't sell them.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I was giving them away. It was like I was
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: selling them out of my trunk, but I was giving them.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you haven't seen The Notebook yet? Like Ryan,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, Ryan Gosling. Yeah. They was like, no. I'm like, bro,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that movie is so good. I'm going to watch it. No,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I got one for you. Dude, I'm telling you. What
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: about now? What are you watching?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: What are you watching on TV now? Like my show
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: right now is Linus.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Show wise, that's next up because I keep hearing about it.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. I love it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: My boy LaMonica's on there.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Nemesis. I'm waiting on the second season of Nemesis to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: come out.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect that to be good.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Me either. Me either. That shit was so good.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, I gave it a chance because it
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: was on, it wasn't on Tubi, it was on Netflix.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah. And I was like, Holy shit. Yeah, that
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: shit was good. It was very good.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But now I watch a lot of shows, like reality shows,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: like Love Island, Perfect Match, Married at First Sight. You
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: like reality TV. Love is Blind. I've been trying to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: get Nick Lachey and Vanessa Lachey because they're the hosts
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of some of these shows. I've been trying to get them.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I should be on one of these shows.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I need to be on one of these shows. Love
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: is Blind. I guess they laugh me off because they
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: live in Hawaii, right? They live in Hawaii now because
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: they're doing a show over there. But yeah, I'm like,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, would you do a reality TV show like that?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm single. Why not? If that's the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: way I'm going to find love, shit, sign me up.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: My wife and daughter, they just finished watching The Reunion,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: which came on the other day.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And Kevin Frazier, he does a lot of The Reunion
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: shows too. Yes.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: But what's funny is, and this is how I got
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: caught up. I'm like, turn this shit.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Wait a second.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Don't turn.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Who is that? Why are they doing this? And the
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: last season of Love Island has become X-rated.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: They all have started.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: It's a little too much, especially as a dad of
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: a 21-year-old and a 19-year-old. Like, I don't want to
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: see all, like, it's too much.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, with age of attraction, do you think it's
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: too much when a 57-year-old is dating a 27-year-old? Depends
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: how mature you are. the 27-year-old. That's what age of
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: attraction is. That's a new... Oh, that's the one with the... Yeah,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: you don't know how old they are. Right, you talk
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: about no age. They're like in an area. They just
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: meet and mingle.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: This is going to sound wrong. I get it when
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: the man is older.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Right? We see that more often. Right, right, right.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: But when I see the 57-year-old woman with the little
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: 28-year-old dude.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: 27-year-old, yeah. I was like... Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: But the thing was, I saw that too. The guy
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: was really mature for his age, the 27-year-old. He was
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: damn near damn more mature than the 57-year-old, the 54-year-old.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And she was like, she was, I felt bad for
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: him because if you're 54, you've been married, you got
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: older kids. She had kids just as old as he was. Yeah,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I saw it. And that's what she was torn about.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Is the fact that her kids were the same age
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: as he was and she didn't want to go. I'm like,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: but you went through so many weeks knowing this. Right.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you're going to use
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that as an excuse not to move forward.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Like, you just wasted all my time. Well, he has
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: a lot more time. She's the one that's running out
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: of time.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Right. But still, just for the sake of the show, like, dude,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: if that's not what you want to do. Don't waste
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: anybody's time. Like, did you just want to get knocked
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: off by a young cat? That's really what you wanted
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: to do because that's all that really happened. A lot
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of people go on those shows just to get a
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: little action. Yes.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: So I want you to watch Lioness. You're not going
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: to believe that little Zoe Saldana can be this tough
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: little motherfucker, but the show is so good.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Nicole Kidman. Zoe, okay, yeah. Remember her from Drumline?
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Zendaya Zendaya people mix them up yeah
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: when you say that that's why I'm like Zoe I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: met her at a theater her and her husband one
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: time yeah with the long hair and the little porn
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: mustache yeah I didn't yeah I was like oh I
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: took a picture I'm like yo I'm like you know
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I kind of fanned out for a second right but
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I always see people that I watch cause she was
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: on Avatar and stuff like that and I'm like yo,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: this is Zoe. Double take. Cause I'm like, I didn't
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: expect to see her. Cause she was blue in Avatar. Right.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: But then when you think of like AA listers, you
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: don't think, you know, I don't expect to see them
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: out like in the places that I'm going. But we
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: was at the movie theater and they was in line
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking, I'm like, and I'm like, Zoe? I'm like, yo,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I said, do you mind if I can, can I
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: get a picture? Did she know who you were? I
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if she did or not.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: This has been great.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: It's always cool when we get together and we get
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: to the point y'all.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 54:38
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