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Kirk Family Sues School, Fed Rate Hikes, Piker Crashout, USDA Sec'y Rollins Guest · The Alex Marlow Show

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  Speaker 1: It's the Alex Marlowe Show. It's the Alex Marlowe Show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. We've got a busy news day today,
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  Speaker 1: and we allegedly have a guest coming in. Brooke Rollins,
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  Speaker 1: who runs the USDA, is going to be here, who
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  Speaker 1: has been very communicative with us at Breitbart since taking
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  Speaker 1: that job, which we always appreciate, speak directly to the people,
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  Speaker 1: the populace. I dig that. So she is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be here. I always say supposed to because– You know,
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  Speaker 1: the logistics with the guests. I love doing interviews. I
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  Speaker 1: love interviewing. It's one of the thrills of my job.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been saving most of those for the podcast
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  Speaker 1: because I only got the one hour of live radio.
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  Speaker 1: And you have someone fumble the time to come in
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  Speaker 1: or they're not on video or their connection is no
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  Speaker 1: good or they're breaking up because they're in the car.
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  Speaker 1: And it ends up wasting a third of the show.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, we're very hopeful that's going to take place
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  Speaker 1: in a little bit. So I'm going to motor through
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  Speaker 1: the news and there is quite a bit. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: start with one which is simple. But keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: on this. It is Fed Day. The Federal Reserve is
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  Speaker 1: meeting in the anticipation is they are going to hike rates,
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  Speaker 1: interest rates for the first time in three years, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of remarkable because Kevin Warsh, the Fed chair,
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  Speaker 1: who is someone who we get along with quite well
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  Speaker 1: at Breitbart News, is someone who wants rates very low.
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  Speaker 1: But just the global economy, the fact that inflation is
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  Speaker 1: still as high as it is, the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: does feel like people continue to spend. We saw retail
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  Speaker 1: sales numbers. super high. We got that report today, which
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  Speaker 1: is mostly a good thing, but people thought the high
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  Speaker 1: gas prices that we're experiencing were going to hurt the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the economy. We're not seeing any of that.
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  Speaker 1: And just because of that, plus the war, plus the inflation,
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  Speaker 1: it just means we're going to get a hike for
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  Speaker 1: the first time in three years. And this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be probably hung around President Trump as a negative
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  Speaker 1: thing because people, despite the spending patterns, and I've tracked
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  Speaker 1: this on the show, you've heard it here more often
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  Speaker 1: than anywhere else, The people are walking around as if
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  Speaker 1: we're living through a Great Depression, and yet they're spending
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  Speaker 1: as if it's a jubilee.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going on. And because of that, we are
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  Speaker 1: seeing a moment where we're going to see a Federal
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  Speaker 1: Reserve chairman who's inclined to cut actually end up raising rates.
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  Speaker 1: And he's probably going to raise them again and maybe
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  Speaker 1: even a third time. And it's going to be something
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  Speaker 1: that's going to put him at odds with President Trump
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  Speaker 1: to some degree or another. Another, Trump will probably lash out,
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  Speaker 1: but I think a lot of that will be performative
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  Speaker 1: when the president does that because I think he knew
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  Speaker 1: this is coming. And some of it is based off
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  Speaker 1: of some relative strengths within the economy. But it's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen and is going to be plus the high
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  Speaker 1: oil prices with all that's what's going on in the
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  Speaker 1: Middle East is going to be something that the look
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  Speaker 1: for the Democrats are to capitalize on it, saying Trump
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  Speaker 1: was no good on the economy. So that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: And Trump's credibility is is going to be tested, I think,
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  Speaker 1: here on the economy, and we'll see how the media
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  Speaker 1: is able to frame this up. So it's number one,
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  Speaker 1: keep an eye on that, and we'll have John Carney
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  Speaker 1: at Breitbart News give all the analysis that we know of.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing that Warsh has done, which is not
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  Speaker 1: great for journalists, is he is abandoning the presupposition that
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  Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve Chairman is going to talk a lot
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  Speaker 1: when he raises rates. He said that this is something
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  Speaker 1: that his predecessors had done but not all of them.
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  Speaker 1: It's a relatively recent phenomenon where the Fed chairman does
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  Speaker 1: a lot of speaking with the media after these moments,
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  Speaker 1: and he does not plan on doing that. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where we're at. And I will give you the updates.
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  Speaker 1: And plus, we'll be tracking the economy closely throughout the day.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the Middle East, and it's important to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on in the Middle East as well,
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  Speaker 1: because I do think there is a couple of items
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  Speaker 1: in the news that are really worth locking in on
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  Speaker 1: because they could have some pretty big implications. And Saudi
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  Speaker 1: Arabia is, understandably, making a huge deal out of these
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  Speaker 1: Houthi attacks on the bombing of Mecca, or I always
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  Speaker 1: say alleged bombing of Mecca. I'm not there, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have sources I trust 100%. But the claim that
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  Speaker 1: they bombed Mecca, there's not a lot of denial of it.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that I was asking Frances Martel, our
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  Speaker 1: brilliant world editor at Breitbart News. Have we ever seen
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  Speaker 1: this before? Has anyone tried to bomb Mecca? She's about
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  Speaker 1: my age. We've been in the news business about the
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  Speaker 1: same amount of time, nearly 20 years. Like, have we
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  Speaker 1: seen this? And no, we have not seen this. So
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  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia saying that they're getting bombed by Iran in Mecca.
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  Speaker 1: This is when Iran actually called on Saudi Arabia to
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  Speaker 1: lose sovereignty of Mecca. And even then they didn't bomb it.
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  Speaker 1: So this could be a game changer because this could
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  Speaker 1: increase the negative perception of Iran within the region, which
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  Speaker 1: could help precipitate the end of this war, which cannot
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  Speaker 1: come soon enough. Because if you start seeing a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the allies of Iran are starting to look– I
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  Speaker 1: would say that the landscape is changing because there are
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  Speaker 1: people who are sympathetic to Iran like China that are
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  Speaker 1: probably losing some faith that Iran is going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to hang on in this regard. One thing that
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  Speaker 1: is interesting is that Arachi, one of the most powerful
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  Speaker 1: people within Iran– is in Beijing right now. And the
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  Speaker 1: Chinese appear from their state media to be losing patience
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  Speaker 1: with them because they're not covering the meeting, which you
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  Speaker 1: would think would be one of the biggest things going.
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  Speaker 1: We follow state media very closely each and every day,
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  Speaker 1: Breitbart News. And there's not a lot of reports coming
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  Speaker 1: out of Beijing about what's going on. Other than that,
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  Speaker 1: China is pressuring Iran to knock it off in the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. They want the Strait open. It's just
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  Speaker 1: simply too economically damaging for China, which has been struggling
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  Speaker 1: consistently since the coronavirus. Also, China's play with BRICS to
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  Speaker 1: try to have a major influence in our hemisphere. This
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  Speaker 1: is being eroded by this. And so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Iran's closest allies are going, hey, guys, this is not
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  Speaker 1: going well. This is not worth it for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: All of our oil prices around the world are up.
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  Speaker 1: None of our economies are in good enough shape to
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  Speaker 1: weather this. And politically, this is just– we know that
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  Speaker 1: this is politically detrimental towards Trump and the United States,
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  Speaker 1: but that might not necessarily justify this continuing for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. So– You can't ignore this stuff, and especially
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  Speaker 1: when you see some of Iran's allies in the United
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  Speaker 1: States in the media, and I'm talking folks like Hassan Piker,
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  Speaker 1: who continue to get humiliated day in and day out,
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  Speaker 1: then it does lead you to think that maybe we
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  Speaker 1: could be on the precipice of something different. I told
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  Speaker 1: you yesterday on the show briefly that Piker is just
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  Speaker 1: completely melting down now online. He's crashing out. That's the
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  Speaker 1: trendy expression. I did– Make sure to pull a cut
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  Speaker 1: so I can prove to you what's going on over there.
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  Speaker 1: So let's check out what's going on in the Hasan
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  Speaker 1: Piker Twitch feed. Cut 12, please, guys.
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  Speaker 3: The United States of America, the most dog country on
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  Speaker 3: the planet, the absolute worst country on the planet, straight up,
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  Speaker 3: bar none, a capitalist, the absolute worst in place on
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  Speaker 3: the planet, just a horrific, monstrous, awful dog. country that
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  Speaker 3: i despise the absolute worst country.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's comedian right like it's just that we
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  Speaker 1: just miscast him we all thought this guy was some
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  Speaker 1: sort of a thought leader no he's been miscast this
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  Speaker 1: guy is a media clown he is a carnival barker
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  Speaker 1: at best and the democrats made him the face of
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  Speaker 1: their own party and they started to nominate all the
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  Speaker 1: candidates that he liked and they're so stupid for have
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  Speaker 1: done so they're taking an election there are taking a
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  Speaker 1: layup They're standing on a ladder over the rim with
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  Speaker 1: a ball, and all they have to do is drop
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  Speaker 1: it in, and they're going to kick the Republicans' butt
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  Speaker 1: in the midterms, and they can't do it. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the reason why. This guy. And all the Pod
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  Speaker 1: Save America crowd that wasn't powerful enough to be able
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  Speaker 1: to stop him. The people who knew this guy's insane,
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  Speaker 1: and they can't stand in the way of it. They
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  Speaker 1: let this guy take charge. The guy who says America
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  Speaker 1: is the dog-esque country in the world. So, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Last one on national security foreign policy for the moment,
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  Speaker 1: and just to put a pin in this one as well,
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  Speaker 1: State Department's announcing that Trump is redirecting a massive amount
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  Speaker 1: of military spending and assets to the Middle East– out
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  Speaker 1: of the Middle East and Europe and is now putting
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  Speaker 1: them in Latin America. The Middle East has not been
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  Speaker 1: helpful militarily during the Iran war, really interesting. Europe is
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  Speaker 1: horrific in terms of this stuff, and so he is concerned, rightly,
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  Speaker 1: of China incursion into Europe. our hemisphere, into South America
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  Speaker 1: in particular, into Central America, allowing for fentanyl to get
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  Speaker 1: into Mexico and then up into our country. And he's
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  Speaker 1: looking at a more hemisphere, our hemisphere-centric foreign policy. And
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  Speaker 1: I love this stuff. It's absolutely amazing. And also, we've
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  Speaker 1: been on the cutting edge of this at Breitbart. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very proud of our work there with Francis Martel, as
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  Speaker 1: well as Brandon Darby and our border team. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: this coming for years and years, and it's finally happening,
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  Speaker 1: that Trump and Rubio, their foreign policy view is not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily Eurocentric or Middle East-centric. A lot of it is
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  Speaker 1: focused on our hemisphere, and I think that's a very
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  Speaker 1: good use of time. So keep an eye on that.
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  Speaker 1: That's happening. It's happening on a– I wouldn't say it's
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  Speaker 1: a super fast-paced clip, but it's certainly happening. And I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's overall worth pointing this out because this
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  Speaker 1: pretty much Middle East and Europe, and that is not
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  Speaker 1: I don't have as much AI. I've been doing very
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  Speaker 1: AI-heavy shows for all of you, and I'm really in
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  Speaker 1: that headspace. I'm giving a big speech at Pastor Alan
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  Speaker 1: I'll be doing a big address on AI, and I
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: will release that in the podcast feed. But the only
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  Speaker 1: updates I've got today is Jensen Wong doubling down on
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want any regulation. Meta is now backing the no
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  Speaker 1: regulation platform. And here is the thing, and I've tracked
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  Speaker 1: this pattern. This is the pattern. I mentioned this on
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  Speaker 1: the show and it's gotten picked up some places, which
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  Speaker 1: is a positive thing, is that this is the open
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  Speaker 1: versus closed weight AI. That's what this is really about here,
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  Speaker 1: is that the people who want closed weight AIs to dominate,
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  Speaker 1: those are the people that are in charge of anthropic
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  Speaker 1: and open AI, which is ChatGPT in particular. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the people who are saying that now is time to
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  Speaker 1: have regulations, but they only want regulations because they want
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  Speaker 1: believe they'll be able to put their people, people sympathetic
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  Speaker 1: to them on those bodies, and they think that that
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  Speaker 1: is the way to win. They think that's how to
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  Speaker 1: go forward. And so Meta has come in and Meta says, actually,
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  Speaker 1: we think that these guys want to slow down AI.
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  Speaker 1: They're nuts who want to start taking time to create whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The regulatory agency that's going to be international, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Meta say, no, they don't want it.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Meta's AI is open weight and that's it. That is
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  Speaker 1: the commonality that we're seeing here is people who want
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  Speaker 1: the closed AI, which means the people do not have
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  Speaker 1: the ability to have the cutting edge AI. They do
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  Speaker 1: not have the ability to– this is about is it
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  Speaker 1: going to be publicly accessible and modifiable by people? That's
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  Speaker 1: open weight. That's what Meta has. That's what the Trump
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  Speaker 1: administration is for. And that's what some others are for.
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  Speaker 1: But Anthropic and OpenAI, they have the close weight model.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why they want to start imposing some sort
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  Speaker 1: of a global government. And I will tell you, I've
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  Speaker 1: been framing it up this way. We've been framing it
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  Speaker 1: up this way at Breitbart for a long time, that
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  Speaker 1: pay attention to who would be in charge of the
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  Speaker 1: global government. And we are now seeing details of who
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  Speaker 1: those people would be and I got to give a
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  Speaker 1: shout out because even though this is a narrative that
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  Speaker 1: I have to say, we definitely originated the narrative with
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  Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer and Wynton Hall at Breitbart News. We've been
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  Speaker 1: doing this stuff for months and months. But I got
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  Speaker 1: to admit, this story at the New York Post today
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  Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. It came out actually last night. Anthropic
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  Speaker 1: CEO Dario Amadeus handpicked super woke globalists he thinks will
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  Speaker 1: save us from AI. And you meet the cast of
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  Speaker 1: characters who are involved. These are the people who will
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  Speaker 1: be involved. It is a who's who of far left radicals.
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  Speaker 1: And so the incubator is called something called METR. METR
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  Speaker 1: is M-E-T-R. This is going to be the allegedly independent
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  Speaker 1: AI safety watchdog. And Colin Madai, my tech editor at Breitbart,
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  Speaker 1: had a super brilliant analogy about who would be in
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  Speaker 1: charge of this. This is as if I had proposed
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  Speaker 1: a regulation of conservative new media and the regulators are
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  Speaker 1: going to be my parents, Alex Marlowe's parents. So they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be the ones in charge. And that's not
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  Speaker 1: a joke because one of the people who would be
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  Speaker 1: in charge is Dario Amadei's sister, who's married to a
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  Speaker 1: far left, alleged one of these guys, effective altruist named
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  Speaker 1: Holden Karnofsky. And so this person would be on the list.
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  Speaker 1: He is one of the guys who founds these nonprofits
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  Speaker 1: that are the effective altruist movement, which is essentially we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have a literal oligarchic class that allows for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of us to have some freedoms and takes
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  Speaker 1: away others based off of what's good for us. All
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  Speaker 1: sorts of people who have some technological background, but most
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  Speaker 1: of these people are organizers. They're organizers for left-wing causes themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They're overeducated. They live in Berkeley. They go to Oxford.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we're doing here. It is guys like
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  Speaker 1: Dustin Moskovitz, one of the biggest Democrat mega donors, has
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  Speaker 1: profiled in Breaking the Law, one of the biggest fundraisers
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  Speaker 1: of the lawfare against President Trump. He would be in
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  Speaker 1: the list. He's the type of person who's going to
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  Speaker 1: be in there making these decisions. So they'll throw a
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  Speaker 1: couple of names in there that might be in Trump's orbit,
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  Speaker 1: but it's going to be way offset by these people
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  Speaker 1: on the far left. And so that's the goal. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they're going for now. And so really important to
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  Speaker 1: note this. Good reporting from the New York Post. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do our own version of this. I would go case
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  Speaker 1: by case. But you should check it out just to
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  Speaker 1: see the faces in some of these people. They're just
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  Speaker 1: not trustworthy people. They're not trustworthy. These people are just–
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  Speaker 1: this is a nerd oligarchy that's taking place. People who
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  Speaker 1: are way too much time in academia and Silicon Valley
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  Speaker 1: and not enough time with the people. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: you're seeing such a populist resistance here. to things like
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  Speaker 1: to speak with you again. Thanks, as always, for being
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: so communicative with us at Breitbart and people in the public.
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  Speaker 1: You're one of the more diligent members of the cabinet
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: trying to make sure that the people actually hear directly
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: from their administration, which is truly of value. And I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: want to start by talking about farmers, ranchers, anything else
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: on your mind. But let's start with the meat situation
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: where the president's doing his best to try to lower
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the price But it's tricky to do because there's a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: lot of American businesses that probably would prefer us not
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: importing foreign beef in particular. But tell me about the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: administration's new proposals, what he's addressing, and the problems he's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: trying to fix and how he's trying to fix them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great. Well, Alex, I appreciate what you said at
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the top. To that point, I'm actually driving through rural
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: New Hampshire right now. I started the morning in Maine
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: talking to farmers there, headed to New Hampshire to talk
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to farmers. Then I'm headed to New Mexico to talk
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to ranchers later today. So it's on the road. I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: really trying to engage in here, there. their concerns. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: part of it, you know, to your question, we'll talk
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: beef really quick before we move to other issues. But
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: every year, America consumes more beef than anywhere in the world.
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  Speaker 2: We grow the best beef through genetics and incredible research
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: in some of the schools. We've got the best ranchers
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: in the world. But we also consume the most beef.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: And by the way, after Bobby Kennedy and I flipped
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the dietary guidelines, we're changing procurement rules. We're actually eating
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: more beef now than ever before for lots of reasons.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So right now in America, we consume about 13 million
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: metric tons of beef every year. Something that a lot
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of your listeners may not know is that we have
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: always imported about 2 to 3 million of that 13 million.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And most of that that we've imported is the leaner,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the ground beef, the less expensive beef, the cuts and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you know, the steaks and the fillets. That's usually almost
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: always beef that we grow in America. But we have
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: long imported ground beef. So the president, you know, obviously
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: what we inherited a year and a half ago, 23
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: percent increase on average of food under Joe Biden. We
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: have now brought that way down. The average is now
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: around two percent, which is the 10 year average. average.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: But there are some outliers, and one of those is beef.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: We have the lowest cattle herd in 75 years. People
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: are eating more beef than ever before. Normally, when you
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: have a higher demand, people eat less of it, or
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the price goes up, and then people eat less of it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: But that is not happening in beef. People love their beef.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So the president is really working. And his decision to import,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to lift the TRQ, the tariff rate quota, off of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: about 300,000 metric tons of that 3 million that we
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: already import, he felt very strongly that that could significantly
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: decrease the cost of a pound of ground beef, which
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is hovering around $ 6. 50 right now. Now, Alex, I'll finish
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: with this. I would argue as a farm girl, as
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a cattle girl, and as a maha mom of four
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: teenagers that That $ 6. 50 for a pound of ground beef
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: probably isn't that bad. You know, it's not like fuel
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: where you don't have another alternative. If you want to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: go buy chicken, that's less, or pork, that's less. What
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it takes to produce that ground beef four years from
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: start to finish when you're raising cattle is pretty significant.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: But a lot of our lower-income, socioeconomically disadvantaged Americans rely
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: on ground beef, and the president is attuned to that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. Hopefully it works. If it doesn't, he's
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: already said he'd go back to rip that EO up
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: and go back to the way it was before.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like it's– I understand it as a
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: short-term fix, and I don't need to debate it on
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: that level. But it does feel like we need a
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: long-term solution to this, and that's based off of structural issues.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I know we can trace some of this back to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the Biden administration. Can you share some of those structural
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: issues and what's being done to try to fix those
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: for the medium to long term?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. So, number one, not surprising. Under the Biden team,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you know, cattle and ranchers were the enemy. They blamed
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: cattle for climate change, right? They wanted nothing to do
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: with our cattle ranchers. They were closing up grazing. A
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: lot of our western state ranchers They're fifth, sixth, seventh generation.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: They have been leasing their land from the BLM, Department
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of Interior, or from us at the Forest Service through U.S.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Department of Agriculture. The Biden-Harris regime basically began to close
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: all of that down. They also completely recalibrated USDA. Instead
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: of being an agency that supported farming and ranching, it
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: instead became an agency about diversity, equity, and inclusion. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: canceled 900 DEI trainings on day one. It became about
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: granting research to study the transgender, queer, you know, food
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: justice farmer out of San Francisco, which obviously there isn't
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: such a thing. So, you know, we have completely... moved
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: in the direction of working to solve those infrastructure problems.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: We have four packers that harvest 85% of the beef
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in America. Two of those are not even American-owned. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: that has really squeezed our ranchers for a really, really
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: long time. So there are major, major structural issues that
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: has resulted in this herd low. But we've now, for
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the first time a month ago, we saw the heifer retention,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: meaning the ranchers are keeping more of their mama cows,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: go up for the first time in 10 years. We
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: see people leaning in. We've got more cattle being purchased
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to save or to raise to slaughter eventually. So I
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: think we are changing the fundamentals in such a way
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that for the long term, especially as Americans want more beef,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the world wants more of American beef. We're going to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: be able to meet that demand in a pretty significant way.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: All right. So the next thing I want to talk
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: about is just deregulation efforts that are taking place because
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it does feel like one of the barriers is just
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: trying to be able to get more beef You mentioned
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the climate movement, global warming, all of this stuff. The
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: beef industry has just taken a lot of, I think,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: regulatory heat from the prior administration. I imagine that's what
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: ranchers and farmers are talking to you about when you're
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: on the road. Oh, there's no doubt.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy things from under the Joe Biden era,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: those that use the H-2A program, which is the legal
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: program to get agriculture workers in. The cost of doing
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that went up 40 percent. So instead of paying, you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a ranch hand. eighteen dollars an hour not bad twenty
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: dollars an hour they were paying thirty five forty dollars
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: an hour um we've now gotten that down things like
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you couldn't fix your own tractor i'm sure you've heard
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: about this that because of climate change the left required
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you to have take your tractor in and pay someone
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars to fix the tractor that you yourself
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: could fix I'm sure you've heard about the diesel, the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: deratement where if, you know, you hit a certain number
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: on your tractor, the diesel, the whole thing on diesel emissions,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the whole tractor would shut down. No matter where you were,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: what you were doing, you're in the middle of harvest
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and your tractor shut down in the middle of the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: field because of. of climate change. The waters of the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: United States, where the left tried to take over 97%
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: of our great American ranch and farmland, private property rights,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and say they were going to regulate a pothole or
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: a ditch of water. And if you didn't do what
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: they wanted, then you're going to jail. I mean, this
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: is existential. We're in a battle, not just for the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: soul of America, not just for freedom and liberty, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: for the ability to feed and fuel ourselves. And if
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: we're not able to do that, and it's You know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's gotten really bad. This isn't just beef. It's really everything.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: We've offshored. We've consolidated. We've allowed foreign countries to come
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: in and purchase. We've got to completely reverse this trend
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: or we will not know America as you and I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: know it today in 50 years or 100 years. It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that big of a deal.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up the foreign countries purchasing our farmland.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: This is something that I've been tracking my research. Can
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you give us an update on how that's going? Because
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I know that's something this administration doesn't like, but is
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: there a good way to stop it?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: There is. And, you know, while we wait, it's really
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: a congressional move. We need Congress to act on it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: And they've come very close. It's been in a couple
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of the farm bills. I keep pushing for it really hard.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: But here's the good news, Alex, that we can the
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: states themselves can step into the gap.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: The best and the best vision of our founders and
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the 10th Amendment, the federal government, you know, it should
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: be small. Let's let the states be the guardians at
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: the gate. Right. South Dakota under Kristi Noem, North Dakota
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: under Doug Burgum when they were governors, Sarah Sanders in Arkansas,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis in Florida, Greg Abbott, Texas. We've been working
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: alongside these states, the red states, to pass state laws,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: not only all of them to say no more, we're
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: not going to allow you to purchase any more farmland,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: foreign interests, a lot of them are foreign adversaries, but Sarah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Governor Sanders, is actually starting a clawback procedure in Arkansas,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: which as we have lost 300,000 acres of farmland to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: China alone, it's millions of acres to foreign interest. But
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: when China owns 300,000 acres of our farmland around military bases,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of them, you've got so many layers of
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: significant political issues and policy issues. We got to get
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: in front of it or we're going to lose our country.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And this was a huge effort by the Biden administration
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to specifically sell this land to foreigners, specifically Chinese, specifically
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: around military bases. Really disturbing stuff. Glad you guys are
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: on that. Another thing I know you're on is fraud.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: We just got a huge announcement earlier today from Housing
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and Urban Development that they uncovered $ 130 million in fraud
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: going to ostensibly homeless organizations out in my neck of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the woods in L.A. I know this is top of
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: mind for you as well. What are you guys doing
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: at the USDA to root out fraud, hold fraudsters accountable, etc.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Well, we have the SNAP program, right, the food stamp program.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And you talk about fraud. I mean, I know Scotty
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: is finding it in housing, Scott Turner. I know Dr.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Oz and Bobby are finding it in Medicaid and Medicare.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But what we've seen in food stamps and that the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: challenge with the SNAP program, the food stamps, is it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: a fully federally funded program, but we just hand that
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: money over to the states and there's no accountability. And
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that's how it's always been, which is insane. The spending
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: on that program went up 40% under the last administration,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: under Biden, which is crazy. More and more people got
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: on food stamps. There was no checking of whether they
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: were working or trying to find a job. There was
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: no checking on their means. There was no checking on
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: whether they're driving Lexuses or You know, Range Rovers, which
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of them are. I mean, it is crazy
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: what we found. The first day I walked in and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: sent a letter to every governor and said, we've got
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to change this. This is not red or blue. We've
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: got to work together and uncover, you know, that the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: American taxpayer just is owed better, as are the families
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: that really need this program, that it's being stolen. And
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: so I had all the red states sign up, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: actually a couple of the blue state governors have been
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: great partners, too. And what we have found, half a
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: million people that are getting more than one take at it,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: 250,000 people that are using dead people's Social Security numbers.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: In one state alone, hundreds of fancy cars being driven around.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: by names of those who were taking the SNAP benefit.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: But we have gotten, we have been able to root
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: out so much already. I took the Doge team, the
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Elon team that came into USDA to help us right size.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: And we did, we shrunk USDA by 20,000 employees about
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a year and a half ago. Once that work finished,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I pivoted them to this work. And what they have
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: been able to find and uncover is remarkable. We have now, Alex,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: moved almost 6 million people off of SNAP in just
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a year and a half. We've gone from 43, 44
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: million to right over 35, 36 million. Welfare to work,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: no more illegal aliens, and no more fraud. I mean,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: this is what the president promised the people, and this
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: is what the people do.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Secretary of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins, I got a last question.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's a two parter. And I think the last answer
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: thing dovetails nicely. What's next to come for you and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: your department? And what is the best messaging that the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Trump administration can make to voters heading in towards the midterm?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost for me, if we don't reverse
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: this trend of losing farms and ranches to foreign owners,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: foreign adversaries, really just to, you know, consolidation, then we
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: lose the ability to feed ourselves, to fuel ourselves, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: we lose freedom as we know it. It's that important.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: So continuing to work really hard, opening up trade deals
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: around the world, opening up markets in America, bringing the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: cost of inputs down, breaking up some of these concentrated
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: industries like the Packers. There is a lot of work
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to be done. But this first year and a half,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: we have made unbelievable strides in that direction. And I'm
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: really proud of it. I mean, honestly, Alex, I wasn't
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: expecting this job. I've been next to President Trump for
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a long time. I was his domestic policy chief. in
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the West Wing. I built the America First Policy Institute
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in the interim. I wasn't planning to be in the cabinet.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: My background is agriculture. You know, he called me about
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the job. It is the hardest job I'll ever have,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: but it is also the best job I will ever have.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's just so, so important. And these are the best
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: of us, right? Our farmers and ranchers that don't take vacation.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: They work on Christmas. They're not worried about paternity leave, right?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: They're just working and they're so proud of their work.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: So continuing to tell their story and to build up
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: The most important industry, I believe, in the country is
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Paramount for me. And then moving into the next couple
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: of months. We just have to continue making our case
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: to the American people. You know, this president has never
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: governed by polls. He made a decision, you know, understanding
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: it may not be the most popular to stop Iran
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: from having a nuclear weapon. Obviously, that has challenged some
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: of our supply chains in farming and ranching, that's fertilizer
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: and diesel.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Secretary, you've got to forgive me. I've got to leave
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it there. But that was phenomenal stuff. I'm really grateful
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: for you. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. We'll
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: be right back.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: The stuff's so crazy right now. Everything is so nuts
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  Speaker 1: All right, a couple of other items that I want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure we touch on in the time that
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  Speaker 1: we've got left. I've got one news item and a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of housekeeping. Trinity Point USA announced something pretty
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  Speaker 1: interesting earlier today. They announced that they are leaving the
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  Speaker 1: option open to sue the university where Charlie Kirk was shot.
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  Speaker 1: And this is something that is a– I think this
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  Speaker 1: came down the wire. I think they had to make
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  Speaker 1: a decision, and they did. They made the decision, and
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  Speaker 1: the decision was made. that they're going to have a–
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  Speaker 1: that the Utah Valley University in the state of Utah
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  Speaker 1: could have prevented Charlie Kirk's death perhaps by allowing Kirk's
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  Speaker 1: security team to surveil the roofs, and there was apparently
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  Speaker 1: an effort that they were blocked– so that they did
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  Speaker 1: not have a drone was not able to be flown.
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  Speaker 1: And this is something that those of you who've been
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  Speaker 1: loyal to me for a long time, I openly questioned
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  Speaker 1: this on the air on this very show after Charlie died.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, why weren't they flying drones? And now we know,
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  Speaker 1: apparently the reason was, at least according to Turning Point,
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  Speaker 1: their spokesman, Andrew Colvett, who hosts Charlie Kirk's show, which
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  Speaker 1: I will be on, if you're listening live in seven minutes,
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  Speaker 1: any of you are interested in that sort of thing,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I will be on right away, right after this show.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about this, but they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to fly a drone and couldn't. So I got a
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  Speaker 1: cut of Andrew talking about this on Fox. Let's play
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  Speaker 1: cut 13, please.
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  Speaker 5: There wasn't a meeting before the event that morning. There
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  Speaker 5: wasn't a written plan to see that there was messages
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  Speaker 5: exchanged saying, hey, we've got you covered on the rooftops.
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  Speaker 5: And then to even see, you know, our security detail,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, which was bigger than the police presence
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  Speaker 5: at UVU, say we've got you covered. And then for
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: them to offer to man those people. rooftops themselves and
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  Speaker 5: to control access. But that didn't happen either to see
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  Speaker 5: that there was no drones. Meanwhile, Orem PD right next
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  Speaker 5: door had drone coverage. They had a great drone program.
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  Speaker 5: They were expecting to get a call for support. That
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  Speaker 5: never happened.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we want justice for Charlie. If this really was
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  Speaker 1: the scenario, it's a huge shame to me. This is
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  Speaker 1: a massive shame because it does feel like this was preventable.
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  Speaker 1: And we knew that the snipers hang out on the roofs.
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  Speaker 1: Trump just got shot by a guy who's sitting on
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  Speaker 1: a roof. And I just can't believe we didn't check
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  Speaker 1: the roofs. And whoever was responsible for not checking the
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  Speaker 1: roofs should be held accountable. And if it really was
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  Speaker 1: the university, then good for Charlie and his family and
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  Speaker 1: Erica who want to go and pursue justice for Charlie
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  Speaker 1: as best we can. And we'll never totally avenge his death,
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  Speaker 1: but I definitely think it's a worthwhile thing.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to play it again. I noticed something.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I listened back to some of the show. I had
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  Speaker 1: to do a late night drive to do some help
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  Speaker 1: for Mrs.
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  Speaker 2: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Marlowe's family yesterday. And I listened back to the show
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  Speaker 1: and I noticed that I played this great Gavin Newsom
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: clip and I got really hung up on him and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Jake Tapper wading into knee deep water to fly fish
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  Speaker 1: with a camera crew, but not, and then talking about
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Newsom's political career. I found the optics so absurd, but
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: There was a point in there where he said he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: not going to run for president if Kamala Harris runs.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: He goes, no, I've been trying to give it to
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  Speaker 1: you straight. I think Kamala Harris is still the frontrunner
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  Speaker 1: for the Democrat Party. I think they're lost, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that she's the one, if she manages to not
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  Speaker 1: open her mouth and to not say a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: stupid stuff, which she's inclined to do, she's inclined to
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  Speaker 1: get into those crisp grand crews very early in the day,
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she's talking gibberish. If she
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  Speaker 1: can avoid that, I think she's the frontrunner. If Newsom's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: saying he's going to back out for her, very interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, more on the podcast feed. That's it for today.
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  Speaker 1: Go in peace to love and serve the Lord. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for listening and watching.