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Speaker 3: There are there are if you jump, I mean yeah,
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Speaker 4: No, we have a guy.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful stuff.
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Speaker 3: I am excited for the draft though, Yeah, I am too.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be exciting. Like it's Mason Graham. You think
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Speaker 3: he's gonna go top five right now?
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Speaker 1: There's couple, a couple yeah five, Yeah, I mean that
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Speaker 1: could happen. Tyler Booker, Will Johnson T Booker. Yes, if
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Speaker 1: there's any scouts out there that have the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: draft Tyler Booker, I don't think there's a better kid
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Speaker 1: out there. This kid's gonna play ten fifteen years in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's going to be strong, yeah thirty. Really,
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Speaker 1: the only thing holding back that kid is injuries. He
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Speaker 1: just has.
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: I no, no, I no, no, sorry.
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Speaker 4: I do feel like I have a.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, a free one thousand dollars bet to put this
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Speaker 3: week to balance Shader because Delaney. The bet we have
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Speaker 3: with with Delaney right is insane yeah, what is it?
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Speaker 3: Top two rounds? Right, just got to go in the
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Speaker 3: top two rounds. I win thousand dollars from Delaney because
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Speaker 3: he was gonna fall out of the top two rounds.
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Speaker 1: God love him, I've ever heard.
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna treat like I have like a freebiet. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I got some free money to play on.
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Speaker 4: That's a free money.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, rip that up a little bit. I could
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Speaker 1: see him going top five. I could see you get
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Speaker 1: the Giants there, you got the Saints there at three
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Speaker 1: and four.
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Speaker 3: Raiders they're out of the top five. Raiders I think
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Speaker 3: are seven, I believe, and Saints are what nine? No?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't know what was the thing
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Speaker 1: we were just looking at before we came in.
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Speaker 3: You're talking about all the different three is the Giants? Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Giants are three and there going like that because it
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Speaker 3: seems like Travis under is going to be a lot
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Speaker 3: of going to the Browns. Yeah, which giants are choosing
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Speaker 3: out of? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Here we go, here we go.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Raiders are six.
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Speaker 1: Titans, Browns, Giants, Patriots, Jags, Raiders.
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Speaker 3: Who's that you build? The trends? Will Campbell out of
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Speaker 3: L L s U.
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Speaker 1: I don't well, I don't. I think if you're gonna
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Speaker 1: pick up four and you want to take a tackle,
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Speaker 1: you're to take that kid out of Texas. Yeah. He
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Speaker 1: I think he's the number I think he's clearly the
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Speaker 1: numb the number one tackle in this draft. Will Campbell,
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Speaker 1: he's been There's been some comments about his length of arms.
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Speaker 3: Is more of a guard the arm length.
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Speaker 1: The arm length game. To me, it's the armlink game.
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Speaker 1: Is so ridiculous because I didn't have like overly long arms.
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Speaker 1: But it's all about using the length you have. It's
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Speaker 1: all about using the length you've got. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you square. Yeah, but that's all good.
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Speaker 3: Ray would let me return because my arms were long
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Speaker 3: enough to Yeah.
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Speaker 1: He just he was doing that just because your name
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Speaker 1: was Will Compton. Yeah, treated you that way the way
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Speaker 1: should have. Sanders got his jersey retired.
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Speaker 3: You know he did it because you're not your point
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Speaker 3: he is. He is like a tangible.
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Speaker 1: He loves the length, loves the length, loves because yeah,
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Speaker 1: Rabel's built like ananderthal like his He's a knuckle dragger
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Speaker 1: like his. His arms literally goal past his knees. He's
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Speaker 1: built to play football.
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Speaker 3: What'd you think of the should get his number retired
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Speaker 3: at Colorado.
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Speaker 1: I don't ever want to hate on that because it
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Speaker 1: is like I think of myself if like Michigan doesn't
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Speaker 1: really retire numbers, but if they ever were like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're putting you in our Hall of Fame. I don't
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Speaker 1: even know if they have a Hall of Fame. I
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Speaker 1: would just be so grateful and so proud of that.
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Speaker 1: And to see cha dur It's like, Okay, he wasn't
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Speaker 1: an All American. He was Big twelve Offensive Player of
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Speaker 1: the Year or All Big twelve something like that, like,
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Speaker 1: which is great, but like a lot of everybody has that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there is there's gonna be.
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Speaker 1: There is the nepotism, there is the bias that goes
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Speaker 1: involved in But I'm happy for him because it's.
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Speaker 3: Like that is cool. Now.
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Speaker 1: Whether he deserved it or not, I don't know. Man,
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Speaker 1: Hopefully he has an incredible NFL career and then we
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Speaker 1: all look back on it, similar to the way Michigan
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Speaker 1: looks at Tom Brady, where Tom Brady and he didn't
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Speaker 1: have like a Hall of Fame college career, but then
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Speaker 1: he goes to the NFL and he's the greatest player.
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Speaker 4: Of all time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's still an opportunity. His story is unwritten. Dude,
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Speaker 1: who sings that song? The rest is still unwritten.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was daring at the blank. I did
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Speaker 3: think uh Dion dropped a jim when he was talking
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Speaker 3: to the to the press and talking about Rashaan Salam,
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Speaker 3: Like how long did it take for him to get
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Speaker 3: his number retired? Yeah, and it was like what twenty
10:57
Speaker 3: something years? Well how long after he died? And it
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Speaker 3: was like within one year, And he's like he enjoys
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Speaker 3: guys smelling the flowers. Like my only issue with the
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame retiring jerseys because Travis Hunter, like that's
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Speaker 3: a shoe in. Yeah, but it's like, you know, there
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Speaker 3: should be like a like a protocol, whether it's you know,
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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame you have to be five years,
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Speaker 3: you have to be five years before you get eligible.
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Speaker 3: Like if they had standards like that, I think it
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Speaker 3: would land a lot softer because he's getting them getting
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Speaker 3: their jersey retired and getting in the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 3: like within months after playing. I think it's in obviously
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Speaker 3: the last name being Sanders. Yeah, do what school semester
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Speaker 3: is not even over? Yeah? Yeah, very sick for the
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Speaker 3: for Travis and Shader, like you know, going going aget
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Speaker 3: on the field and getting your number retired and getting
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Speaker 3: your name written up there so quick. But also it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, there seems to be like no parameters because
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Speaker 3: they have how many guys retired overall? Six total, And
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Speaker 3: there's been some great players that come out of Colorado,
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Speaker 3: especially in the early nineties when they were a very
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Speaker 3: damn good football team. Day bo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean using a fourth or fifth round pick,
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Speaker 1: you use like a lower round. So he's kind of
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Speaker 1: in that similar I mean, it's weird to put him
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Speaker 1: in the same category as Tom Brady, but like they
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Speaker 1: don't have the college careers, but they had the NFL career. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: is what I'm basically trying to say. Because back, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Bach was a stud man. He signed multiple massive contracts,
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Speaker 1: multiple All pros. Like, dude was a fucking stud looks
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Speaker 1: fantastic too. Yeah, saw him this weekend at Easter.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Just when when you look at the top ten quarterbacks
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Speaker 2: to play at Colorado, there's maybe one name that you
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Speaker 2: truly like recognize from an NFL standpoint, and it would
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Speaker 2: be Cordella Stewart.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But that's about it. Number two, Darien Hagen, sal On
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Speaker 2: the c Koy Detmer, Joel Klatt, shout out Joel Klatt,
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Speaker 2: Bob Anderson, Stefo Leoffo, John Hessler, all these guys, And
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. Suder Is probably was
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Speaker 2: the best, yeah college quarterback of them all except.
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Speaker 3: For I think the second one. You said he was
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Speaker 3: one that was playing around ninety like in the he
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Speaker 3: had a really good career. Yeah, Colorado. How does Nebraska's
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame work? I think you have to be
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Speaker 3: before you become eligible. I want to say it's like
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Speaker 3: a there's like a waiting period maybe five years.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're eligible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd be eligible. I would getting in the what
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Speaker 3: do you mean the Nebraska Hall of Fame?
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Speaker 5: Bro?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get I was on the jump.
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Speaker 1: So you can get put in the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 1: for things other than football. Do what you can put
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame for things about impact? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you're impacting the game, you're making. This is not
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Speaker 1: truly Please stick with me here. Okay, you're making you're
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Speaker 1: making more of an impact now than when you play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with Okay, I don't take that
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Speaker 3: that could have gone. You just never know what mean
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Speaker 3: you're you're a good compliment.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I meant it as a compliment. I just
13:44
Speaker 1: didn't want to get that, you know, the blurred lines,
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Speaker 1: the grays. I wanted that to happen between us, right,
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Speaker 1: So make it a bigger impact. Maybe it's timfortable content.
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Speaker 1: Maybe this weekend they surprise you because we'll be in Nebraska.
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Speaker 1: Boys will be at the draft starting. There's a new
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Speaker 1: thing called the two minute drill. That'll be exciting. Got
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Speaker 1: ourselves an interview or two lined up head over that.
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Speaker 1: I'm coming back. I gotta come back. I got some
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Speaker 1: dad stuff to do Friday for my kids. They got
14:09
Speaker 1: a little play, and I'm back over here. And then
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Speaker 1: I'm off the Nebraska to see the boys. Watch people
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Speaker 1: just shower. We'll compton. The love glaze everywhere, dude. Just
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Speaker 1: the gift of all the hot dogs sitting that woman
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Speaker 1: in the face that's will confident every time we go
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Speaker 1: to Lincoln. Dude, it is incredible how much love this
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Speaker 1: man gets. But the Spring tour, let's just talk about
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Speaker 1: the Spring tour for a little bit.
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Speaker 3: It's been awesome.
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Speaker 1: Has this been the most fun spring we've ever had
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Speaker 1: at bust with the boys.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this has to be the playbook we use with
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Speaker 3: other schools going in the next year forever and always. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: especially with Oregon, Like Michigan was an awesome one. But again,
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Speaker 3: that was the week of the spring game, right, so
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Speaker 3: they're a little lighter.
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Speaker 1: Their scheduling was a little different, so we didn't have
14:45
Speaker 1: the opportunity to work out with the team. However, the
14:48
Speaker 1: strength staff baptized us. Oh yeah, they baptized us. And
14:52
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of myself. I might have a bar in
14:53
Speaker 1: my back. My knee's gonna be killing me. I'm gonna
14:55
Speaker 1: be benching a whole lot of weight. Whatever it is,
14:57
Speaker 1: it was all functional stuff.
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Speaker 3: My back's in hell.
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Speaker 1: Currently hell that whole entire workout.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what it is, specifically,
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Speaker 3: but something I have got to get my back corrected, man,
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Speaker 3: And it's bothered me mentally. Like You's like like I'm
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Speaker 3: sick and tired of being sick and tired of my back.
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Speaker 3: Like I have to fix it.
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Speaker 1: Some's gotta's got you, or you're gonna break the back.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I feel the sneeze coming on, and I'm
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Speaker 3: like I'm scared. I'm hearing. Yeah, what position do I
15:27
Speaker 3: get into to where I feel the lightest impact because
15:29
Speaker 3: it's like a sharp pain that just goes through my
15:32
Speaker 3: like L four and five on my right side, and
15:34
Speaker 3: it fucking bothers me. Man.
15:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you what the biggest surprise to
15:39
Speaker 1: me was for myself in the Spring tour so far? Yeah,
15:42
Speaker 1: go ahead, When we were in Oregon and that kid
15:45
Speaker 1: came up to me and asked me for some help
15:47
Speaker 1: when we did some core stuff. First off, I had
15:49
Speaker 1: no idea the clip that's on YouTube right now at
15:51
Speaker 1: beginning as much love as it is, but there I understand.
15:55
Speaker 1: Similar to when I watch the Masters, I understand golf. Now,
15:58
Speaker 1: I understand why guys coach Because seeing this kid come
16:01
Speaker 1: up and want some information and me being able to
16:04
Speaker 1: give him something that I hope he takes with him
16:06
Speaker 1: and runs with him, that was a very special moment
16:08
Speaker 1: for me, and I loved it. I loved it when
16:10
Speaker 1: guys came up and they're like ultimately curious about my
16:14
Speaker 1: process and how I handled things, and it was it
16:16
Speaker 1: was fucking awesome.
16:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it was great. You see why coaches do
16:20
Speaker 3: what they do. But I mean think of yourself as
16:22
Speaker 3: like that young kid. You got a three time pro
16:24
Speaker 3: bowler coming in, Like you want to pick their brain.
16:26
Speaker 3: You're trying to figure out what questions to ask. Ky
16:28
Speaker 3: he's working out with us right now, Like let me,
16:30
Speaker 3: you know, let me get out in front of the
16:32
Speaker 3: boys and pull them aside.
16:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was. He's way more open and curious
16:37
Speaker 1: than I was at his age. He's a freshman. Yeah,
16:39
Speaker 1: he's a freshman, just got there. He was early in
16:41
Speaker 1: Roly from Florida, and uh yeah, I mean I remember
16:45
Speaker 1: being a freshman and there would be some guys that
16:47
Speaker 1: would come in. I can't remember his name. He was
16:49
Speaker 1: literally at Michigan when we were there, but he played tackle.
16:52
Speaker 1: He was from Georgia, went to Michigan. He was played
16:54
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions for ten years. He would come
16:56
Speaker 1: in all the time, kind of do rehabing stuff like
16:58
Speaker 1: that in ann Arbor, and I always wanted to pick
17:00
Speaker 1: his brain, but never did. Jake Long will be around
17:02
Speaker 1: once in a while. He was always around, but I
17:03
Speaker 1: never picked his brain because I was just kind of
17:05
Speaker 1: like more in awe than I was, like I'm gonna
17:09
Speaker 1: try to get something out of them. Yeah, I think
17:10
Speaker 1: I tried to be a friend more than I tried
17:12
Speaker 1: to be like a mentee. Yeah, and so to me,
17:15
Speaker 1: it was just super cool that these guys are are curious,
17:17
Speaker 1: Like Michigan was very similar, but Oregon, I would say
17:20
Speaker 1: more that offensive line group were like very interested in
17:24
Speaker 1: my process how I went about things and were always
17:27
Speaker 1: much more vocal in the meeting rooms of Michigan because
17:29
Speaker 1: the coaches were asking me questions. But it was it
17:32
Speaker 1: was awesome to be a part of it.
17:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, mine was a Barrett Rude. Bart Rude would come around,
17:36
Speaker 3: he'd like work out with the team in the offseason,
17:38
Speaker 3: and he like taught me how to watch film, taught
17:40
Speaker 3: me about his process, how he breaks down, how he
17:43
Speaker 3: compartmentalizes it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So that was like
17:46
Speaker 3: getting to see that. It like reminds it just as
17:49
Speaker 3: you as a player, as a young player and wanting
17:51
Speaker 3: to get knowledge from these guys because Barrett Rude was
17:54
Speaker 3: a stud at Nebraska and in the league. But yeah,
17:58
Speaker 3: it's cool to think.
17:59
Speaker 2: About of any linebacker and any offensive tackle, who would
18:02
Speaker 2: you guys want to spend the day with while you
18:05
Speaker 2: were playing. Who was the one guy you would want
18:07
Speaker 2: to be.
18:08
Speaker 1: I want to be or want to spend time with him, spend.
18:10
Speaker 3: Way to learn from ray Lewis. I'll say, like, anytime
18:14
Speaker 3: I was driving a workouts in the morning, I always
18:15
Speaker 3: had like ray Lewis speeches on. I got to see
18:19
Speaker 3: him speak one time, but I'd say, ray Lewis, I mean,
18:22
Speaker 3: dude did it at the highest level for all of
18:24
Speaker 3: what sixteen seventeen years. He was like the baddest man
18:27
Speaker 3: on the football field. God don't make mistakes.
18:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, That's a really difficult question for me because
18:34
Speaker 1: the person I looked up to the most was Jake Long.
18:36
Speaker 1: Jake Long's career, I mean, he ended up getting a
18:39
Speaker 1: lot of injuries in the NFL, so it was very
18:40
Speaker 1: difficult for him to like show off how much talenty
18:42
Speaker 1: actually had me. The guy was, he made three Pro
18:44
Speaker 1: Bowls in a row in his first three years. He
18:47
Speaker 1: is an insane talent that was only plagued by He's
18:50
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy that was just injured a bunch.
18:53
Speaker 1: But we were much different play styles. Like I was
18:55
Speaker 1: more bendy and probably a little more more athletic. He
18:59
Speaker 1: was strong and understood technique a little bit better. I
19:02
Speaker 1: think if I was gonna spend time with a guy
19:04
Speaker 1: and I would honestly want to ask you about that before.
19:06
Speaker 1: Its probably Trent Williams, because we did. We were we
19:09
Speaker 1: were like similar in a lot of ways of like
19:12
Speaker 1: how we decided to play. He was much stronger, much
19:14
Speaker 1: more powerful, but from a movement standpoint, very similar.
19:17
Speaker 3: It's interesting too here and you talk about like technique
19:19
Speaker 3: and everything else, Like I feel like Ray would always
19:22
Speaker 3: talk about the game so much like I was always
19:24
Speaker 3: gravitating towards a guy, so you'd see on film, like
19:26
Speaker 3: on YouTube whatever it is, and kind of talking about
19:28
Speaker 3: the game with Ed Reid because I was just so interested,
19:31
Speaker 3: like how do these motherfuckers like break the game down
19:34
Speaker 3: at such a level to where you know, you technique
19:37
Speaker 3: and all that stuff's part of it. But I don't
19:38
Speaker 3: think technique wise for a linebacker is as involved as
19:42
Speaker 3: like say an offensive tackle.
19:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like you guys are you guys are
19:45
Speaker 1: seeing what the formation is, what the motion is, and
19:48
Speaker 1: basically playing like process of a nation of what this
19:50
Speaker 1: play could possibly be.
19:51
Speaker 4: And it's reading and reacting.
19:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do a lot of red reacting post snap.
19:55
Speaker 1: But like for me, I was always under the thought
19:59
Speaker 1: process that if I if I lose, it's because I
20:01
Speaker 1: did something wrong, not because they did something right. Like
20:03
Speaker 1: people can have great rushes and do a bunch of
20:05
Speaker 1: amazing things. But like if my feet are correct, if
20:07
Speaker 1: my hands are corrected, my angles correct, I can't I
20:09
Speaker 1: cannot lose. And so when I hear when I like
20:12
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, we had Luke Keiegley on
20:14
Speaker 1: if you guys are watching for the first time, you
20:15
Speaker 1: can go watch that incredible episode you guys listen to
20:18
Speaker 1: you guys breakdown film. For me, it was just identifying,
20:22
Speaker 1: you know, the coaches would give me hey when they're
20:24
Speaker 1: in this formation, the safety is over this way, look
20:26
Speaker 1: for this blitzep, what's whatever? So you knew when there
20:28
Speaker 1: was like movement going on. But it was really just identifying,
20:31
Speaker 1: what's this guy's fastball. And then now I'm evaluating to myself, Okay,
20:34
Speaker 1: is his best against my best because I'll take my best,
20:38
Speaker 1: but if it highlights one of my weaknesses, okay, I
20:40
Speaker 1: need to now equalize the playing field of being like
20:42
Speaker 1: I need to get him off his game. So if
20:44
Speaker 1: it's a power guy, I was always concerned about power
20:47
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, I was fast and twitchy.
20:50
Speaker 1: When it came to like just you know, sitting on
20:51
Speaker 1: a bolt, that was my most difficult thing. So I
20:54
Speaker 1: need to jump this guy and set up different angles.
20:56
Speaker 1: So now mentally we're both playing this game of who's
20:59
Speaker 1: confidence is higher in moments. So if I can jump
21:02
Speaker 1: this guy a couple of times, set them differently, use
21:04
Speaker 1: my hands differently, and winning those battles, I know mentally
21:08
Speaker 1: his head's in a different spot than minus. Now my
21:10
Speaker 1: confience is a little bit higher. So there was always
21:12
Speaker 1: about finding that guy and seeing what he was best
21:16
Speaker 1: at and taking that away first. And with the film stuff,
21:18
Speaker 1: it was like linebackers essentially handle things the same. If
21:21
Speaker 1: they're fast, twitchy guys, they're going to try to up
21:23
Speaker 1: and under you. They're big, powerful guys, Like fucking buckle
21:25
Speaker 1: your chin strap and get ready to get hit under
21:27
Speaker 1: the chin, keep your feet moving, and so I never
21:31
Speaker 1: was like a student of the game that way. It
21:33
Speaker 1: was always just like identifying the individual battles. Yeah, yeah,
21:37
Speaker 1: but it's awesome to listen to you guys talk about it,
21:40
Speaker 1: just talking about coverages and him like peeling off of
21:42
Speaker 1: cover two and all that and listening the way you're
21:44
Speaker 1: breaking down it. It's like it's such a part of
21:47
Speaker 1: the game that maybe I didn't do as much, So
21:49
Speaker 1: it's just fun to listen to.
21:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like as a back or too, like you're
21:52
Speaker 3: always trying to identify, like how is the offense trying
21:55
Speaker 3: to beat you? And like when Luke's in there talking
21:57
Speaker 3: like which offensive lineman is going to be blocking you
21:59
Speaker 3: because you've if you can, you want to have every
22:01
Speaker 3: angle or be the fastest to the first step because
22:04
Speaker 3: when you're going into the line of scrimmage, like you
22:06
Speaker 3: guys are much bigger than us, so you're always trying
22:08
Speaker 3: to like find those edges of when emotion's happening, when
22:11
Speaker 3: a formation is going on, always trying to figure out,
22:13
Speaker 3: like how an offense is trying to beat you so
22:15
Speaker 3: you can have the faster first step and just listen
22:17
Speaker 3: to Luke and even off Ray Lewis, Like I went
22:19
Speaker 3: and spent time with London. Fletcher and London talked about
22:21
Speaker 3: the game in such a way I remember when I
22:23
Speaker 3: was a rookie in London had the keys to do
22:25
Speaker 3: whatever you want, like if you wanted to check out
22:27
Speaker 3: of at defense, similar to what Thomas Davis and Luke
22:29
Speaker 3: Keickley were doing, Like havevn't the coaching staff have that
22:32
Speaker 3: much confidence in you that you were seeing the game
22:34
Speaker 3: good enough that it's like, hey, if he sees something,
22:36
Speaker 3: he's checking something, let him do it. Like I was
22:38
Speaker 3: always fascinated with, like how do you get there? Like
22:40
Speaker 3: when I was in a cold tub and I'll be
22:42
Speaker 3: asking London, like why you checking? Uh, why you checking
22:45
Speaker 3: in a cover two? In these situations, but like trying
22:47
Speaker 3: it's like always the game within the game and trying
22:50
Speaker 3: to be one step ahead on how offense is trying
22:52
Speaker 3: to beat you because they know what they're running and
22:54
Speaker 3: you're just having to You're trying to put yourself in
22:56
Speaker 3: the best precision position to like have the quickest first
22:59
Speaker 3: step and beat them to a spot. Yeah, So I
23:01
Speaker 3: always I always love that stuff, And I feel like
23:03
Speaker 3: Ray always had a lot of things on YouTube to
23:05
Speaker 3: at least would you would hear him talking about it.
23:08
Speaker 3: So when Barrett would come in and talk about playing
23:10
Speaker 3: the linebacker position and talking about breaking down film study
23:12
Speaker 3: and everything else, I was just always so fascinated because
23:15
Speaker 3: in the weight room, you're always gonna be trying to
23:17
Speaker 3: chase those edges to get the one percent better, whether
23:19
Speaker 3: in speed, jumping, quickness, body, your physicality like lish five pounds. Yeah,
23:25
Speaker 3: but like what are the what are those little things
23:27
Speaker 3: that can kind of give you a step up, like
23:29
Speaker 3: when you're on the field to where you're kind of
23:31
Speaker 3: anticipating everything versus just reacting to it.
23:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting. You ever see on like Instagram
23:37
Speaker 1: when there's like someone did a drawing and they started
23:40
Speaker 1: zooming out and then all of a sudden that drawings
23:41
Speaker 1: instead of a cat's eye, and it's a kind of
23:43
Speaker 1: a universe. It's like, yeah, insane, the amount of depth
23:45
Speaker 1: and levels.
23:46
Speaker 3: Yeah.
23:47
Speaker 1: I was talking to my dad after the Easter party,
23:49
Speaker 1: after the Want Easter Bash twenty twenty five just about
23:52
Speaker 1: basically the conversation we're having now and how many different
23:56
Speaker 1: levels there are. Like there's twenty two guys in the
23:57
Speaker 1: field at one time, and if you sit there as
23:59
Speaker 1: an offense, like I can understand the concept of what's
24:02
Speaker 1: happening here. I know the backs track, I know relatively
24:05
Speaker 1: if this is a longer route, shorter, intermedia, whatever whatever
24:07
Speaker 1: it is, and then you go into a little bit Okay,
24:09
Speaker 1: what's the offensive line doing here? And then you can
24:11
Speaker 1: zoom in a little bit more about Okay, what's the
24:13
Speaker 1: center's job here, and then the tackles, and you start
24:15
Speaker 1: to realize all the little games of chess that are
24:18
Speaker 1: happening while eleven guys are trying to do the same
24:20
Speaker 1: thing to help each other. And that is why football
24:24
Speaker 1: really is the best, because it is there's so many
24:27
Speaker 1: levels to this ship. It's just crazy. It's it's awesomely
24:30
Speaker 1: not even thinking about the defensive side, like everyone's also
24:32
Speaker 1: doing their eleven things. You know, if this guy goes
24:35
Speaker 1: inside and does this, you have to cover this gap.
24:37
Speaker 1: It's just it's fucking awesome. And so like going into
24:40
Speaker 1: these these schools and being able to do what we
24:42
Speaker 1: were doing is just great. I mean, we talked about
24:45
Speaker 1: it last week in Oregon.
24:46
Speaker 3: But like yeah, yeah, and if you haven't watched that vlog, it's.
24:51
Speaker 1: One of our favorites we've ever done that. Michigan was
24:53
Speaker 1: great too. I think the only thing that gotten the
24:54
Speaker 1: way with us with Michigan was their scheduling. They had
24:57
Speaker 1: the spring game coming up, so these guys are kind
24:59
Speaker 1: of like loaded on the back. Oregon was very much
25:04
Speaker 1: Jake still in their process of like you know, implementing
25:07
Speaker 1: like installation, doing the workouts, all that stuff. We got there,
25:11
Speaker 1: what was it Tuesday last week?
25:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got there Tuesday.
25:15
Speaker 1: The other Tuesday their spring game Saturday, so their last
25:19
Speaker 1: like it was kind of their last real practice before
25:21
Speaker 1: they split up into their Mazing Blue groups, and it
25:23
Speaker 1: was just it was a little bit different. But the access.
25:26
Speaker 1: I was impressed with the access because Oregon really opened
25:30
Speaker 1: it up to where we walked away and I looked
25:32
Speaker 1: at the boys. I was like, I don't know if
25:33
Speaker 1: Michigan's gonna give us this, Like that was insane amount
25:37
Speaker 1: of access. It was awesome. Lanning is an absolute homemade
25:41
Speaker 1: But I mean even after practice at Michigan, like it's
25:44
Speaker 1: you me ab off the boys Sean, We're all just
25:47
Speaker 1: basically telling terrible stories about me the whole time. Top
25:50
Speaker 1: five Top five isn't that crazy, bur It doesn't.
25:57
Speaker 3: It doesn't like so top five, JP explained the.
25:59
Speaker 2: Top top five. Dave Alof has been at Michigan for
26:03
Speaker 2: how long.
26:03
Speaker 1: Like twenty five plus years.
26:04
Speaker 2: He's essentially the director of media relations, So anything that
26:08
Speaker 2: goes down with Michigan, he's the guy that gets reached
26:11
Speaker 2: out to and he has to handle it. So we
26:13
Speaker 2: were asking him or I don't even know if we
26:15
Speaker 2: ask Dave.
26:16
Speaker 1: David a couple of times like made a couple like
26:19
Speaker 1: comments like I thought I'd be done worrying about Taylor.
26:22
Speaker 3: He keeps saying the gift that keeps on GI.
26:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would keep making those types of comments, which,
26:25
Speaker 1: like you do you laugh at but I'm thinking to myself, like, bro,
26:28
Speaker 1: I won I won that bad it was? You know,
26:31
Speaker 1: there's a couple of instances and.
26:33
Speaker 3: Those exchanges get us spark to ask Dave, like, so
26:37
Speaker 3: where's Taylor?
26:38
Speaker 1: So after practice problem, Joe all singing a circle and
26:41
Speaker 1: it's like us plcorn, Searon Moore and Dave and I
26:46
Speaker 1: don't know who was it you who asked the question?
26:49
Speaker 1: I might have yeah, but I should say we'll ask
26:51
Speaker 1: a question like how bad was Taylor? And then he goes,
26:54
Speaker 1: I mean you guys, I don't feel like talk about myself.
26:56
Speaker 1: Like yeah, he says, I was saying.
26:58
Speaker 3: We were up by Coach Moore's office when it came out. Maybe,
27:01
Speaker 3: JP as like, where's Taylor rank?
27:03
Speaker 2: Maybe? And basically Dave was like he's probably top five?
27:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, top five?
27:08
Speaker 3: What what?
27:09
Speaker 2: What? And then the very first there was already two
27:11
Speaker 2: different versions of it where Taylor thought one thing happened
27:15
Speaker 2: and they which one was. He was like, oh, Arizona,
27:17
Speaker 2: the Arizona BWL, he's.
27:19
Speaker 3: Where the bus left him.
27:20
Speaker 4: Well do you remember this?
27:23
Speaker 1: The bus did leave me? And I think he bet
27:25
Speaker 1: the need of that.
27:26
Speaker 3: No, well, he goes, well, do you remember how that
27:27
Speaker 3: trip started?
27:28
Speaker 1: I actually, you know what, it's crazy he brought that
27:30
Speaker 1: up and I did not remember that. We can we
27:31
Speaker 1: can talk about like that's all. That's all news, Like.
27:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was your brother's fault.
27:36
Speaker 1: No, I still blame the kid. These dudes were twenty
27:40
Speaker 1: nine years old. This is the old my eighteen year
27:42
Speaker 1: old brother. So I came in and yeah, I hit
27:44
Speaker 1: the kid. I did what people says I did my
27:47
Speaker 1: senior year after the House State game, and.
27:50
Speaker 3: They didn't hear about it.
27:51
Speaker 1: They didn't hear about it. Obviously, me being dumb and
27:53
Speaker 1: twenty one years old, I'm like, I'm not going to
27:55
Speaker 1: tell them this happened. Yeah, and then we land in Arizona,
27:59
Speaker 1: and I guess Dave Abloff's phone starts going off like
28:02
Speaker 1: the headline, Yeah, the headlines tale of one hit this
28:05
Speaker 1: Ohio State fan after the House State game, which we
28:07
Speaker 1: did lose forty two forty one. That was like the
28:09
Speaker 1: most painful loss of all time.
28:10
Speaker 3: He said, they sat you, they brought you, Taylor saying
28:14
Speaker 3: he didn't.
28:15
Speaker 2: Do I didn't.
28:15
Speaker 1: I said my brother did it at first video on him. Yeah,
28:21
Speaker 1: and I ended up telling the truth. Yeah, but they
28:23
Speaker 1: did leave me after the Buffalo while they left me
28:26
Speaker 1: after that. But some of the stories, man, and then
28:28
Speaker 1: as we're sitting there in al Glick Fieldhouse and then
28:33
Speaker 1: like story after story is happening, I'm having to explain
28:35
Speaker 1: the story. I'm thinking to myself, goddamn, maybe I am
28:38
Speaker 1: top five. Maybe I really was top.
28:41
Speaker 3: By the story diabolical.
28:43
Speaker 1: I love thebolicle.
28:45
Speaker 2: I loved Blake's reaction to hearing all the stories because
28:48
Speaker 2: he's like smiling and kind of just in awe of
28:51
Speaker 2: like kind of like, how did the heck did.
28:53
Speaker 1: You do this?
28:54
Speaker 2: While yeah, yeah he said three times while y'all were
28:57
Speaker 2: just talking like off the back. He's like top five.
29:01
Speaker 2: I like that because you know, Blake was probably number
29:03
Speaker 2: one easiest.
29:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
29:05
Speaker 1: The freshman year dorms with Craig Row was probably is
29:09
Speaker 1: the worst one.
29:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't get anyway, you.
29:14
Speaker 1: Know, it's weirdest, like, I didn't think it was that bad.
29:17
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was that bad that I'm telling
29:18
Speaker 1: that story. I'm thinking, oh my.
29:19
Speaker 2: God, I turned the camera off. Did you really? Yeah,
29:22
Speaker 2: like we I we don't need to put this out
29:24
Speaker 2: there for Taylor.
29:25
Speaker 1: That is what great times though, that's hey high production,
29:30
Speaker 1: production maintenance was there? I guess yeah, yeah, I made
29:33
Speaker 1: the most.
29:34
Speaker 2: Those were great. I also love Will and Blake Korham's rivalry.
29:37
Speaker 3: That they have.
29:38
Speaker 4: It's beautiful.
29:39
Speaker 2: It's also like four zero Blake, So it really is, man,
29:45
Speaker 2: it really is.
29:45
Speaker 3: And you see it's on me. He's up on me
29:47
Speaker 3: so high. I have to just walk by him on
29:49
Speaker 3: the sideline shoulder him. I feel like that's a dub,
29:51
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, nothing dude.
29:52
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean you kind of didn't want
29:55
Speaker 1: to do a one on one against him either.
29:56
Speaker 3: It wasn't that I didn't want to do a one
29:58
Speaker 3: on one against Blake. It truly wasn't that. You heard
30:00
Speaker 3: me talking about my back just a few minutes ago.
30:02
Speaker 1: Right, and I know you're feeling fine at this time,
30:04
Speaker 1: but go ahead.
30:05
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling fine on the field. I was like, bro,
30:07
Speaker 3: I'll have to do a full warm because we were
30:08
Speaker 3: staying Like at Oregon, it was hey, the next morning,
30:12
Speaker 3: you know, get the body right, I'm like ready to
30:14
Speaker 3: go because it's early in practice. It's early enough in practice.
30:17
Speaker 3: This one, we were there all day long, like we
30:20
Speaker 3: fly out early in the morning, we're doing that workout,
30:22
Speaker 3: which by the way, they they absolutely crushed us send
30:25
Speaker 3: that workout. With my shoulders, I felt like I had
30:27
Speaker 3: a chess cold after the time for going to tear.
30:30
Speaker 3: And then we're standing at practice all day long, like
30:33
Speaker 3: we were out there on the field for what three
30:35
Speaker 3: four hours?
30:35
Speaker 1: Yeah before it's like hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like.
30:39
Speaker 3: Think about the pre practice, I like an hour before
30:41
Speaker 3: practice started, right, and so it's just you feel the
30:44
Speaker 3: swelling coming on. Like I would have had to do
30:47
Speaker 3: an entire like program just to get ready for this
30:49
Speaker 3: one on one.
30:50
Speaker 1: But but the practice was two hours. An hour in.
30:54
Speaker 1: I did come up to you and I was like, hey,
30:55
Speaker 1: we should get ready for you to do the thing.
30:57
Speaker 3: There's about thirty or forty minutes. But when had your
30:59
Speaker 3: home what was going on? Though they were playing, they
31:02
Speaker 3: were doing the move the ball situation. I did want
31:04
Speaker 3: to see Bryce Underwood like play Yeah, like he was
31:07
Speaker 3: going out there and he looked insane. Yeah he was.
31:11
Speaker 3: And then you guys are you guys talking about Nebraska
31:15
Speaker 3: and they're talking he was moving the balls five for five, Like, yeah,
31:19
Speaker 3: he was moving the ball, getting the ball out so fast.
31:22
Speaker 3: And I'm like, he does look nice and a little nervous.
31:24
Speaker 3: And then he throws his pick to shut out Nico.
31:27
Speaker 3: He throws a pick to the safety. Then right when
31:29
Speaker 3: he throws a pick, right after they were talking, Hey,
31:31
Speaker 3: you guys are saying something about the Yeah, it's just
31:34
Speaker 3: perfect time. Yeah, but he was.
31:35
Speaker 1: He was lighting it up. And there was a couple
31:37
Speaker 1: of times he had like a like a zone read
31:39
Speaker 1: type of situation. He should have pulled it because and
31:42
Speaker 1: crashed inside and you see him like kind of doing
31:44
Speaker 1: the chest thing. We were basically doing the same thing
31:46
Speaker 1: that Bryce under. What is we did at the Colorado
31:48
Speaker 1: Nebraska game with Dylan Royola, like helping up his offensive lineman. Yeah,
31:53
Speaker 1: he's doing the thing. He's taking a knee in the huddle,
31:54
Speaker 1: he's looking around while you just see this guy. This
31:57
Speaker 1: guy's confidence is insane. And then he as the status
32:00
Speaker 1: and everyone's like this kid struggles in the spring game
32:03
Speaker 1: It's like, dude.
32:04
Speaker 3: I did see I did see that. Like you know,
32:06
Speaker 3: I guess game game reps are a little bit different
32:08
Speaker 3: than practice.
32:09
Speaker 1: Spring game bro, Like they probably just like, hey, go
32:11
Speaker 1: there he threw another peak. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, eighty
32:15
Speaker 1: eight yards. There was a Instagram post I don't know
32:19
Speaker 1: which one. It was one of the football college football ones.
32:21
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, number one overall recruit struggles in
32:24
Speaker 1: spring game? Is Michigan gonna have more quarterback woes this
32:27
Speaker 1: upcoming season? Most light comment was Bryce Underwoods and it's
32:30
Speaker 1: just a bunch of cry laughy faces like that, And
32:33
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm in a parking lot of target
32:35
Speaker 1: just like this motherfucker's got the confidence.
32:38
Speaker 3: Articles got a.
32:39
Speaker 2: Point, y'all do y'all should clear y'all should clear the
32:43
Speaker 2: air though, because Bryce was getting a lot of hate
32:45
Speaker 2: for the photo we put up.
32:46
Speaker 3: What was that was crazy?
32:49
Speaker 2: What was your first reactions when you saw him?
32:52
Speaker 3: Special?
32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, specimen, Oh that's he looks like a leaner Cam
32:55
Speaker 1: Newton like he is, I mean, Cam was.
32:58
Speaker 3: People are talking about his gut that it's the most
33:00
Speaker 3: it's one of the more athletic looking guts that you
33:03
Speaker 3: will find like, the Internet's reaction to this photo was
33:06
Speaker 3: blowing my mind because I'm like, and people are really
33:09
Speaker 3: seeing it that way? Yeah, because he is he's all
33:11
Speaker 3: of sixty six. I don't know how much he weighs,
33:14
Speaker 3: but the dude, he's seventeen years old, seventeen and seeing him,
33:18
Speaker 3: I know it's a very small thing, but seeing him
33:20
Speaker 3: one hand those one hand those footballs, bro, I mean,
33:23
Speaker 3: dudes are chucking at like thirty yards and he's just
33:25
Speaker 3: snatching the wide receiver.
33:27
Speaker 1: The ball was coming to unions. I don't worry about that.
33:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm filming and the ball is like coming in
33:31
Speaker 2: kind of hot. He's like, don't even worry about it.
33:33
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I'm gonna worry about it. Yeah,
33:36
Speaker 2: and I like, get out the way he just plucks
33:38
Speaker 2: it out of the air. Looks it he lost Chris Bryant.
33:42
Speaker 2: Chris was just like walking towards us back to the ball.
33:44
Speaker 2: And this is like in the far left of my
33:46
Speaker 2: camera frame where I was filming somebody else and this
33:49
Speaker 2: is just going on on the side and Bryce jumps up,
33:52
Speaker 2: reaches over with his right hand, comes back over one hand.
33:55
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, dude, this guy I'll tell you what
33:57
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Man, if he's a baller on Saturday's, like
34:01
Speaker 3: the offense will be extremely fun to watch.
34:03
Speaker 2: You'll say this, If he's not on Saturdays, it's not
34:06
Speaker 2: because of him, it's because of whatever scheme they have
34:08
Speaker 2: around him. Because he's athletic enough. You have got to
34:11
Speaker 2: be able to move the ball.
34:12
Speaker 3: That is.
34:12
Speaker 1: That's a that's a fantastic point because college football, that
34:15
Speaker 1: amount of athleticism you can Johnny Manziel right, I mean.
34:19
Speaker 2: Away at Auburn, I was they were always winning like
34:23
Speaker 2: ten games. Guy could not throw the ball to save
34:25
Speaker 2: his life. But that offense was schemed up so well
34:27
Speaker 2: around him. Yeah, and it's like Bryce is a lot
34:30
Speaker 2: better than Nick Martin.
34:31
Speaker 1: What really impresses me about this kid he is? I mean,
34:34
Speaker 1: he was the first guy out there. He was the
34:36
Speaker 1: first guy taking snaps, throwing the ball. He was working
34:39
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before practice even started. His dad's at practice,
34:43
Speaker 1: his first off. The dad, him and his sister all
34:45
Speaker 1: they look the exact same. They looked the exact same.
34:48
Speaker 1: I'm like talking to the dad and the sisters like
34:49
Speaker 1: fake dribbling in the back, like dunking on her dad
34:51
Speaker 1: the whole time. But I'm like, hey, like you know,
34:54
Speaker 1: we're talking about his work ethic and he's like, we
34:56
Speaker 1: brought up the money, and his dad's like he has
34:58
Speaker 1: always said he wants to afford opportunity to work, and
35:01
Speaker 1: he's like the money is just more of an opportunity
35:03
Speaker 1: to get work. And he's like, last night he was
35:05
Speaker 1: at this one place with a private quarterback coach from
35:08
Speaker 1: eleven to one. He woke up at seven, did X.
35:10
Speaker 3: Y and Z. He's like just coaching staff talks about
35:13
Speaker 3: him being in the film room for hours.
35:15
Speaker 1: And towers and so sounds like this kid's it sounds
35:19
Speaker 1: as even as a Michigan fan, it sounds too good
35:21
Speaker 1: to be true, Like what's.
35:22
Speaker 3: This this kid?
35:24
Speaker 1: They're saying all the right things, he's doing all the
35:26
Speaker 1: right stuff, and it's just like, hell can he do?
35:29
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got to come see us in Lincoln.
35:31
Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all saw you there, Well, we'll see.
35:32
Speaker 5: He gifted his high school like coo yes, or like
35:36
Speaker 5: a brand new car, which I mean, if you're a
35:38
Speaker 5: seventeen year old, gift in like your security guard from
35:40
Speaker 5: your high school car.
35:42
Speaker 3: Kids got a good head on his shoulders.
35:43
Speaker 5: And they were saying he was in the facility too,
35:45
Speaker 5: like three am the day before and then came back
35:48
Speaker 5: to three Yeah, and then then came back at seven am.
35:51
Speaker 1: So when we were doing when we were doing the
35:53
Speaker 1: crossbar challenge, he's like, we were talking about the workout,
35:55
Speaker 1: we were doing harm kind of hert and he's like, yeah,
35:57
Speaker 1: I got mine at five am. I'm thinking, all right,
35:59
Speaker 1: it's a weird flag like to say on us, But yeah,
36:01
Speaker 1: that's impressive, Jack. How did that make you feel seeing
36:04
Speaker 1: somebody get gifted a truck?
36:10
Speaker 6: This feels nasty now, I mean, yeah, it's cool.
36:16
Speaker 5: It's cool to see a guy who cares about as people,
36:18
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, seventeen, you know, just grinding it out, man.
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37:00
Speaker 1: Nico, Nico found a home.
37:01
Speaker 3: You happy for him?
37:03
Speaker 4: Who?
37:05
Speaker 1: You see that video that Tennessee fan walking in Trick
37:08
Speaker 1: fil A and he's like, no Polynesian sauce. That is
37:14
Speaker 1: funny as hell.
37:15
Speaker 2: Dude.
37:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's back. I mean, he's back home. He's back
37:18
Speaker 6: in California. I mean, it's the comical at least.
37:21
Speaker 5: To say that he goes from a state with zero
37:23
Speaker 5: state income tax to the state with potentially the highest
37:26
Speaker 5: state income tax, making less money, going to a college
37:29
Speaker 5: with less talent, way worse offense.
37:33
Speaker 1: But good luck, good luck. I know, fired the boy
37:37
Speaker 1: up right there, fired him up.
37:39
Speaker 3: He is in the Big ten. We got to see
37:41
Speaker 3: him this year. Could say, no matter what, he is
37:44
Speaker 3: a hell of a player, hell of a player. But
37:45
Speaker 3: I mean this next movie makes it's all ball from
37:48
Speaker 3: this point on, He's got to right some wrongs. And
37:52
Speaker 3: not that it wasn't all ball. I'm just the magnifying
37:55
Speaker 3: glass that will now beyond him since he this situation
37:57
Speaker 3: is kind of going to be the example of college
37:58
Speaker 3: football when he does be come draft eligible, like this
38:01
Speaker 3: will be something that's peeled apart and picked apart. So
38:04
Speaker 3: wherever he is now or being at U c. L A,
38:06
Speaker 3: now you hope that it's all it's all ball from
38:08
Speaker 3: this point on because he's got to know that that
38:10
Speaker 3: magnifying glass is gonna be.
38:11
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's gonna be all eyes on him. But yeah,
38:14
Speaker 5: it'll be exciting to watch, especially those first few games.
38:17
Speaker 5: Tennessee fans are going to be tuned in.
38:19
Speaker 3: What's Tennessee gonna do a quarterback? We're so fairing out.
38:22
Speaker 6: We got two guys right now on the roster.
38:25
Speaker 5: No one's been contacted as of right now for anyone
38:29
Speaker 5: coming in, but we'll see.
38:30
Speaker 6: It's scary.
38:31
Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, because I mean he is like Nico.
38:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks apart, He looks apart, and he looks.
38:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't think such ap I know you got
38:43
Speaker 3: I got, I know you got your cat out of
38:45
Speaker 3: South Carolina. But you see Nico, like he can throw
38:48
Speaker 3: the ball around, when he puts his foot in the ground,
38:50
Speaker 3: he can run so I saw U c l A,
38:54
Speaker 3: like I've had all the takes on NCO and then
38:56
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, yeah, we got to play u c
38:57
Speaker 3: l A this year.
39:01
Speaker 1: And there's a home game. It's different playing in Lincoln, Man, Lincoln,
39:05
Speaker 1: do we really?
39:05
Speaker 3: I thought we go to u c l A. U
39:07
Speaker 3: c l A beat US at when we were in
39:09
Speaker 3: Memorial last year. Yeah, usc USC will be at home.
39:13
Speaker 3: We need that home crowd. Yeah, Like U c l
39:17
Speaker 3: A got better getting Nico on board. Yeah, we'll figure
39:20
Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah.
39:23
Speaker 1: He used to be all right Yeahola.
39:25
Speaker 3: Yeah we got a squad. We don't got just Riola,
39:29
Speaker 3: Like we got a squad. Conch rule coach. You know,
39:31
Speaker 3: I was watching the local presser last week. He's like
39:33
Speaker 3: he's been waiting for a team like this. Oh yeah
39:35
Speaker 3: yeah he got me right. It got me hype.
39:39
Speaker 1: Saturday, we'll be there. Do you have any idea what
39:41
Speaker 1: to expect from the spring game because it's not really
39:42
Speaker 1: a spring game?
39:43
Speaker 3: No? No, So I think they've pivoted a little bit
39:46
Speaker 3: now that the n C double A has put in
39:48
Speaker 3: that new rule. If you can only carry like one
39:49
Speaker 3: O five on the roster, he'll be doing something and
39:52
Speaker 3: Michigan was kind of doing it too, but to where
39:54
Speaker 3: a lot of those guys will be bubble guys are
39:56
Speaker 3: trying to like earn their way into training camp, so
39:58
Speaker 3: they will be having like a scrimmage for like guys
40:01
Speaker 3: to show talent and have film to send out everywhere
40:03
Speaker 3: else because they're, you know, they're cutting down to the
40:05
Speaker 3: one oh five, so guys are gonna have to like
40:07
Speaker 3: make rosters. So he's kind of treating it like they
40:09
Speaker 3: only have three in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, four third
40:12
Speaker 3: preseason game. Yeah, Yeah, but no, I don't know what
40:16
Speaker 3: to expect. I'm sure they'll have elements of both to
40:18
Speaker 3: where they'll have a scrimmage, but I have no.
40:21
Speaker 1: Clue what to expect Team captain.
40:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even this, I don't even know if that's
40:27
Speaker 3: going down anymore, just because they they kind of pivoted
40:30
Speaker 3: early last year.
40:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're changing it.
40:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're changing the layout a little bit.
40:34
Speaker 1: Haw Boys is gonna be a fun time in Lincoln
40:37
Speaker 1: Stars versus the Legends. Well, it sounds like they're not
40:39
Speaker 1: doing that, or they might not be.
40:41
Speaker 3: Just what they were doing now, they were gonna do something,
40:43
Speaker 3: and I don't even know what was gonna take place
40:45
Speaker 3: with the Stars versus Legends thing. But just off last week,
40:48
Speaker 3: like I haven't had much communication with Nebraska on what
40:51
Speaker 3: exactly is going down this weekend.
40:53
Speaker 1: What year is that right there?
40:54
Speaker 3: Freshman year in the background.
40:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see him giving you a little flowers too.
41:00
Speaker 1: Yeah come on now, Yeah, that's nice.
41:04
Speaker 3: Played a crucial role in get Neck out of Tennis
41:06
Speaker 3: out of Tennessee to Nebraska. It was, you know, he
41:10
Speaker 3: just happened to be at Tennessee.
41:11
Speaker 5: Disgusting, especially person that you have influence in this college
41:16
Speaker 5: football world like that, because that's cool.
41:20
Speaker 6: Is a hell of a special teams coach.
41:21
Speaker 1: Another thing from spring tour that I've noticed is how
41:24
Speaker 1: important special teams coaches are, like the enthusiasm that needs
41:27
Speaker 1: to be in the room to keep guys involved in
41:30
Speaker 1: what's going on. Because we sat in a couple of
41:32
Speaker 1: rooms and it was like, I've never really been in
41:34
Speaker 1: special teams meetings.
41:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I leading over.
41:36
Speaker 1: To Will at one point about this ship is fucking boring.
41:38
Speaker 3: Like yeah, you run down?
41:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yet you run down, you got a lane,
41:44
Speaker 1: like stay in that lane?
41:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take it. We've only been to a couple
41:46
Speaker 3: of schools people can figure out.
41:48
Speaker 1: No, no, but there's no an ex enthusiasm that he has.
41:55
Speaker 1: I'm sure his his rooms are the entire time a recruiter. Yeah.
41:59
Speaker 1: I wasn't taken away from that. Yeah, I could see
42:03
Speaker 1: how that was bad. Listen, I was bored because this
42:06
Speaker 1: ship just seemed like he just run down the field.
42:08
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's it's like there's more. It's more
42:12
Speaker 3: drill essential stuff than it is like ext on special time.
42:15
Speaker 1: I feel like it's such an unutilized part of the game.
42:18
Speaker 3: Just part of the game matters.
42:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it matters a lot. Yeah, but the third or
42:24
Speaker 1: third or third thing is a little crazy.
42:25
Speaker 3: Yeah it is. Uh, it is cool though. I saw
42:30
Speaker 3: that interview that Act did and I that is I
42:33
Speaker 3: was his very first recruit, which is awesome. Yeah, he
42:36
Speaker 3: would like give me an envelope and I'll be I
42:38
Speaker 3: thinking in my head like, oh, snow was about to happen.
42:41
Speaker 3: I'd open it up and it'd be like a stick
42:43
Speaker 3: of gum with another that said, there's more where that
42:45
Speaker 3: came from.
42:47
Speaker 2: That's what told you.
42:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is funny.
42:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, exce the man, though, it seems like.
42:55
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a fun Week. Anytime you go
42:57
Speaker 1: to Nebraska, man, they treat you right, treat you right
43:00
Speaker 1: out there. Are you guys still Adidas?
43:03
Speaker 3: I think so?
43:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
43:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, Thedas has been up and up though. JP knows
43:07
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. Best shoes in the game. He
43:10
Speaker 3: won't have to trade his shoes out there. He's gonna
43:13
Speaker 3: be leveling up out there.
43:15
Speaker 1: What else we got boys?
43:17
Speaker 3: What's going on?
43:19
Speaker 1: Tians taking cam Ward?
43:21
Speaker 4: NBA?
43:22
Speaker 2: What?
43:22
Speaker 7: What?
43:22
Speaker 2: What guy in the draft? Do you think we'll have
43:24
Speaker 2: the best NFL career in the early prediction for it
43:27
Speaker 2: cam Ward?
43:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. Tyler Booker, Yeah,
43:36
Speaker 3: it's it's tough because it's like, like book we got
43:39
Speaker 3: to be around him, so you kind of know his
43:41
Speaker 3: mental you kind of know his approach of the game
43:42
Speaker 3: and not just the game but off the field, and
43:45
Speaker 3: we know it's it's like guys like that who are
43:47
Speaker 3: gonna last last the longest?
43:49
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and he understands like the fans.
43:51
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see Tyler Warren in the NFL. I
43:53
Speaker 3: think he's gonna be.
43:54
Speaker 1: At Penn State.
43:56
Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:56
Speaker 1: He seems like he can't do it all.
43:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can. You got a there's you guys got
44:00
Speaker 3: a cat on a Michigan right Love Cortland.
44:04
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Colson Loveland. Yeah, he is a stud. That's
44:06
Speaker 1: a guy good. His draft stock probably fell a little
44:09
Speaker 1: bit because the quarterback play was below par last year.
44:11
Speaker 1: We actually had quarterback turned off. We just handed the
44:13
Speaker 1: ball for twelve games. But he's a cat that can
44:17
Speaker 1: he can block, he can run routes, he's he's a
44:19
Speaker 1: guy that he's a matchup nightmare. Yeah, my workout for
44:23
Speaker 1: him in the long run, for sure.
44:24
Speaker 3: I'm excited to watch Travis Hunter's career. Yeah, dude, that'd
44:28
Speaker 3: be interesting.
44:28
Speaker 2: This was the first weekend I saw like the Travis
44:31
Speaker 2: Hunter effect on the youth. There was this kid. We
44:34
Speaker 2: were at this little easter thing on Sunday and he
44:37
Speaker 2: put on his Travis Hunter jersey and they're playing football
44:40
Speaker 2: in the backyard and he was switching between offense and
44:43
Speaker 2: defense and he would line up and he would go
44:45
Speaker 2: offense mode and then he would switch back and he
44:47
Speaker 2: would go defense mode and do his thing. So I'm
44:51
Speaker 2: like that that's pretty cool because for us, it's like, yeah,
44:54
Speaker 2: we were growing up. It's only like, oh, I'm Randy
44:57
Speaker 2: Moss or yeah, whoever, when now they can just beat
45:00
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter everywhere.
45:02
Speaker 1: And he is trying to play both positions at the
45:04
Speaker 1: next level, right, I think I don't want to miss quote,
45:07
Speaker 1: but I think he said he won't play football if
45:08
Speaker 1: you can't play both ways. Yeah, which is wild.
45:11
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see it twenty game. I mean, it
45:15
Speaker 3: hasn't been done. Like in my brain, I don't see
45:17
Speaker 3: how it works out. Like, just imagine the week you
45:20
Speaker 3: have invested in one position at the next level and
45:22
Speaker 3: think of yourself, you know, both sides of the ball. Yeah.
45:26
Speaker 1: Could you imagine being in the NFL and stepping off
45:29
Speaker 1: the sideline and then not stepping back on the sideline.
45:32
Speaker 3: Your bank is just special teams.
45:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, punts on, I'll get off for one play.
45:36
Speaker 1: You get this water real quick.
45:38
Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, because Cam Newton was breaking it
45:40
Speaker 3: down on Cam Newton was breaking it down on his pott.
45:42
Speaker 3: He's like, imagine if you're like you're you're on the
45:44
Speaker 3: Dolphins and in practice it's like you're covering Tyreek Hill
45:47
Speaker 3: and then the next period you're stepping to the other
45:49
Speaker 3: side and Jalen Ramsey's covering you. Yeah, in the physicality
45:53
Speaker 3: at the next level, just all of it, the mental,
45:55
Speaker 3: the physical, everything interesting. I'm questioning is his gas tank?
46:00
Speaker 3: I'm more so just questioning, like it will be insane
46:03
Speaker 3: if he gets that done. Yeah, I can imagine, Bro,
46:07
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy.
46:09
Speaker 1: I think to myself, like what about when he gets older, Like, well, no,
46:15
Speaker 1: will he was not going to one and just staying
46:18
Speaker 1: with one position the whole time because there's more longevity
46:21
Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, you got to think four years from now,
46:24
Speaker 1: there's twenty snaps a game.
46:26
Speaker 3: That it can't be for the organization. You got to
46:28
Speaker 3: be fired up, like using it out in his rookie deal. Yeah,
46:32
Speaker 3: but longevity purposes, Like for the individual, it's almost like
46:35
Speaker 3: I don't see how that's sustainable.
46:37
Speaker 1: But imagine he plays ten years.
46:39
Speaker 2: Do you think you that we would ever see? Because
46:41
Speaker 2: as the quarterbacks get more and more athletic, a quarterback,
46:44
Speaker 2: my dream scenario will be a quarterback playing both ways
46:47
Speaker 2: in the NFL, like quarterback playing quarterback and safety nor no, Bro,
46:54
Speaker 2: never it's already halfened Taysom Hill.
46:56
Speaker 3: There's too much involved in like the quarterback position, like
46:59
Speaker 3: if you get should or not Sul Travis, I would
47:02
Speaker 3: see him being predominantly like a corner and then in
47:06
Speaker 3: the situation where he just has packages on offense, yeah,
47:10
Speaker 3: but more Charles Yeah yeah, but obviously like more invested
47:15
Speaker 3: on the offensive side, but you more so just have
47:18
Speaker 3: packages and his main focus will probably be cornerback. You
47:21
Speaker 3: can't because there's no way. There's just I mean, who knows,
47:24
Speaker 3: though I'm not trying to sell him short, but I'm
47:26
Speaker 3: just thinking, like, there's no way, like.
47:29
Speaker 1: The our brains cannot comprehend, yeah, being in it for
47:33
Speaker 1: this many that many years and just being like imagining
47:35
Speaker 1: how tired you are after camp and then being like wartime,
47:38
Speaker 1: look at that guy, he just played everywhere.
47:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is able to like actually play both ways.
47:44
Speaker 8: Do you think he's gonna demand an absurd amount of
47:46
Speaker 8: money because hey, I'm a lockdown corner and I'm also
47:48
Speaker 8: wide receiver number.
47:49
Speaker 1: But if he's a lockdown corner and a wide receiver one,
47:52
Speaker 1: he should get a billion dollar contract.
47:55
Speaker 2: Quarterback.
47:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
47:56
Speaker 2: Higher than.
47:59
Speaker 1: Yes, on track, you just got to hope, like he
48:01
Speaker 1: can keep it up for four years until he gets
48:03
Speaker 1: a new contract. It's like, yeah, Travis Hunter signs one
48:05
Speaker 1: billion dollar deal and then I mean that would be
48:09
Speaker 1: mind blowing. Yeah, yeah, five hundred million games.
48:14
Speaker 8: And different clauses and everything. And if you get hurt
48:17
Speaker 8: playing this playing defense, you're only making this much. Or
48:20
Speaker 8: if you get hurt playing offense, you're only gonna make
48:22
Speaker 8: this munch contrac That contract would be like so interesting
48:27
Speaker 8: to read.
48:27
Speaker 3: Crazy man, he created a different market.
48:30
Speaker 1: I hope he does it. I would love I would
48:32
Speaker 1: love to witness that a dude that plays in the
48:35
Speaker 1: NFL at the highest possible level you can play and
48:38
Speaker 1: plays both ways in his dominant.
48:40
Speaker 2: Like first three games a rat technically, could he be
48:45
Speaker 2: a Would he be like a two time Pro Bowl
48:48
Speaker 2: selection in one year?
48:49
Speaker 3: Could be? Yeah, it would be so sick.
48:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, just double everyone's numbers.
48:56
Speaker 7: That would be insane.
48:57
Speaker 1: Plays plays eight years, is a sixteen time Pro bowler,
49:02
Speaker 1: sixteen time All Pro.
49:05
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see too, like, uh, this class performing
49:09
Speaker 3: the league because everybody's kind of like shitting on it
49:10
Speaker 3: being one of the weaker class classes. Yeah, yeah, so
49:13
Speaker 3: I'm kind of hopeful that you know, they have like
49:15
Speaker 3: a good a good selection of guys that just conquers
49:18
Speaker 3: the league. And how he does he saw his letter.
49:22
Speaker 1: His letter, that was awesome. That was awesome, I pray
49:27
Speaker 1: to God cam Ward is the guy for the Titans
49:31
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years.
49:32
Speaker 3: How do you feel? What do you think?
49:33
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's got the talent. He put up,
49:36
Speaker 1: he put up records. He can he can move through
49:39
Speaker 1: the pocket, he can make every single throw, he can
49:41
Speaker 1: extend plays like. He's got the capability.
49:45
Speaker 3: I know. I hope it works out for the for
49:47
Speaker 3: the Titans organization.
49:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it does.
49:52
Speaker 3: Crazy. I just hope he has a mark A Marcus
49:54
Speaker 3: Mariota situation. Three tuddies in the first half.
49:58
Speaker 1: The Nash will be set on fire. That first game,
50:01
Speaker 1: I thought we were winning the Super Bowl that year.
50:03
Speaker 4: I was like, what's over?
50:04
Speaker 3: I get Yeah, it was No.
50:05
Speaker 4: One's number one pick, first, number two pick.
50:07
Speaker 1: A number two pick dismantled, number one murdered. It was crazy.
50:12
Speaker 7: Speaking of Marcus, Yeah, this this episode is this is
50:18
Speaker 7: everything Mount busmore for me personally, I feel like it's
50:22
Speaker 7: a Mount busmore.
50:23
Speaker 1: It is and you could I wish. The only thing
50:24
Speaker 1: I wish about this podcast is that it was two
50:26
Speaker 1: hours longer.
50:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, he talked for days.
50:29
Speaker 1: You can't and he was we talked about I think
50:31
Speaker 1: it was in the vlog, but If we would have
50:33
Speaker 1: got Marcus a couple of years ago, the podcast wouldn't
50:36
Speaker 1: have been as good. He was so open and vulnerable
50:39
Speaker 1: about all the trials and tribulations, the ups, the downs.
50:42
Speaker 3: And a couple of years ago, just no one talking
50:44
Speaker 3: to him in this interview, like where his head was at. Yeah,
50:48
Speaker 3: this podcast is all time, man. God, it's one of
50:51
Speaker 3: my favorites.
50:52
Speaker 1: There's not the Yeah. I love him, I love him.
50:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been trying to get him for his wife though.
50:59
Speaker 1: I tell you what in the future.
51:03
Speaker 3: His wife is.
51:04
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the tell all when it's over. Yeah,
51:06
Speaker 1: when he's done in what eleven more years, wants to
51:10
Speaker 1: play twenty years in the NFL. Yeah, dude, win up
51:14
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52:47
Speaker 3: Should we hit shout out nofree shot on jump into it?
52:49
Speaker 3: By the way, I just saw on Netflix's background this Wednesday.
52:52
Speaker 3: Yeah tomorrow, Yes.
52:53
Speaker 1: Battle thank you? Yes, we always the last couple of
52:57
Speaker 1: weeks you've been talking about we talking about it. I
53:00
Speaker 1: I want to say, I have no ideas host are
53:03
Speaker 1: we doing? How's everybody doing? This is battle camp?
53:08
Speaker 4: Dude.
53:09
Speaker 1: This was such a fun experience, and so like this
53:11
Speaker 1: time last year, I was just getting back from filming
53:13
Speaker 1: this in Mexico, and I had no idea what to expect.
53:17
Speaker 1: I had no idea, I had no idea what I
53:19
Speaker 1: was doing the entire time. It was so much fun
53:22
Speaker 1: to process. Like my agent calling me and being like, hey,
53:25
Speaker 1: this company wants you to host a show, but you're
53:27
Speaker 1: probably too busy for it. I'm like, well, what's the company?
53:30
Speaker 1: They're like Netflix. I'm like, we should we should probably
53:32
Speaker 1: take that fucking call. So I take the call with
53:34
Speaker 1: these people, and then I make a joke about not
53:37
Speaker 1: being able to read good and they like kind of
53:39
Speaker 1: sent him in a blender a little bit. So, hey,
53:40
Speaker 1: we got to make sure Taylor can do a script.
53:45
Speaker 3: What was it like basically the tryouts? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
53:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was you were I was nervous, So I
53:50
Speaker 1: went I memorized the entire script and I did it
53:52
Speaker 1: for him and told me I had it, and they
53:53
Speaker 1: sent a host coach shout out Alita to my house
53:57
Speaker 1: for three days, and we stood outside of my backyard
54:00
Speaker 1: upon and she's like, all right, this is out. It's
54:01
Speaker 1: gonna go. This's gonna happen. When you're going you're talking,
54:04
Speaker 1: they'll just stop you and they'll move cameras and all
54:06
Speaker 1: of sudden. So she was so great, like kind of
54:09
Speaker 1: teaching me what was going to happen in the process.
54:11
Speaker 1: And then I go down there. She's with me for
54:12
Speaker 1: like two days or I could I think a day
54:14
Speaker 1: and a half, and then she flew back to California
54:17
Speaker 1: where she lives, and I remember just being alone. Like
54:19
Speaker 1: four hundred people on set. Two hundred were straight out
54:23
Speaker 1: of Mexico. The other two hundred were, you know, besides
54:26
Speaker 1: the contestants of me, like all from like London, all
54:28
Speaker 1: from Europe, and it's like me and like two other
54:30
Speaker 1: Americans the whole the whole time, it was like it's
54:33
Speaker 1: such a culture shock everything, but it was so much
54:35
Speaker 1: fun to do. I had a blast. Like these people,
54:38
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go me into it.
54:39
Speaker 3: So explain what battle Camp is too.
54:42
Speaker 1: So battle Camp is there's three teams and they're gonna
54:45
Speaker 1: do this challenge. It's gonna be intense, Like there's like
54:49
Speaker 1: these massive walls that they got to do this different
54:51
Speaker 1: stuff on. There's some simpler ones, but these insane challenges.
54:55
Speaker 1: Whichever team wins is immune from being eliminated. Then the
54:59
Speaker 1: other two teams, whoever got third place, their name goes
55:02
Speaker 1: on this wheel. The first team will then pick three
55:05
Speaker 1: people from the other two teams to do punishments. Those
55:07
Speaker 1: punishments could be like cold tough stuff, it could be
55:10
Speaker 1: eating crazy things like it could be how many steps
55:12
Speaker 1: you can do in an hour. Whoever does the best
55:15
Speaker 1: is good. The other two they go on the wheel,
55:18
Speaker 1: and then there's a camp wide vote to fill up
55:21
Speaker 1: the other twelve slots. They vote on who they want
55:23
Speaker 1: to go, and at night we do a wheel ceremony.
55:26
Speaker 1: I spin the wheel, someone goes home, and all these
55:29
Speaker 1: guys are competing shoe whoever the wheel lands on, whoever
55:31
Speaker 1: it lands on. So there could be somebody with seven
55:33
Speaker 1: their name on the wheel seven times and a person
55:36
Speaker 1: on the wheel one time, and if it lands on them,
55:38
Speaker 1: they're out of there. So it's a game of like popularity,
55:41
Speaker 1: athleticism and chance, dude, and it is. It was cool.
55:45
Speaker 1: It was interesting too, like being a part of this
55:47
Speaker 1: because you're just in a football world your whole entire life.
55:49
Speaker 1: Now you're being thrust it into like this reality TV
55:52
Speaker 1: pop culture and so you do not know what to expect.
55:54
Speaker 1: I will say this cast was awesome, Like they were
55:57
Speaker 1: great to be around. There were so many moments where
56:00
Speaker 1: were re arranging cameras and they're like it's kind of
56:02
Speaker 1: just me staring at them, and eventually I'm like, let
56:04
Speaker 1: me just talk to these people, you know, And so
56:05
Speaker 1: like they were all awesome. This dude, Tony, who you
56:09
Speaker 1: will see on the show.
56:11
Speaker 3: He is.
56:14
Speaker 1: Hilarious. And this guy right here I would make fun
56:18
Speaker 1: of him all the time, but he was one of
56:19
Speaker 1: those guys you can kind of like punch on a
56:21
Speaker 1: little bit.
56:21
Speaker 3: And he was.
56:22
Speaker 1: He was great, but he kept coming on. He was
56:23
Speaker 1: so curious about like the football world and all that.
56:25
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I played and I was like,
56:27
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's like high school. He got stiff hips
56:30
Speaker 1: and we were just going back and forth. This kid
56:32
Speaker 1: was great. He was awesome.
56:33
Speaker 3: But the show.
56:34
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun doing it. I hope
56:35
Speaker 1: everybody enjoys it because it comes out comes out tomorrow.
56:39
Speaker 5: For a watch crew that's going to be in Green
56:40
Speaker 5: Bay on Wednesday. I think we got to do a
56:43
Speaker 5: watch party first episode.
56:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will be together.
56:47
Speaker 1: Yoah, wait, we're going Wednesday. Yeah, I think we're going
56:50
Speaker 1: Thursday morning, Wednesday evening.
56:56
Speaker 3: No, no, it's Wednesday early afternoon. Yeah, after your Wednesday.
57:02
Speaker 3: I can already see one. One thing from seeing the trailer. Yeah,
57:08
Speaker 3: you should have had the fade. Boy, you should have
57:11
Speaker 3: the fade. You're clean with the fade.
57:13
Speaker 1: I do appreciate that, and I do think the fade.
57:15
Speaker 1: I will say it looks better than I thought it would.
57:18
Speaker 1: It looks better than I thought it would. However, the
57:20
Speaker 1: maintenance it takes to keep a fade. For that reason,
57:23
Speaker 1: I'm out.
57:25
Speaker 2: Yeah.
57:25
Speaker 3: Man.
57:29
Speaker 1: Three haircuts a year, four hair cuts a year type
57:31
Speaker 1: of guy I like to let grow out and eventually
57:33
Speaker 1: look at the miror and be like, I got to
57:34
Speaker 1: take care of this, So I go and take care
57:36
Speaker 1: of it. I like a little more, a little more
57:37
Speaker 1: of a grungelo ye.
57:38
Speaker 3: Big win for the bus. We've been trying to get
57:40
Speaker 3: Taylor to get this fade shout out.
57:43
Speaker 1: Promises made promises, cat brother, we got it done.
57:47
Speaker 3: Let's go. You know, hey, he'll he'll, he'll keep the
57:51
Speaker 3: fade going. He'll keep the yeah because you know, boy,
57:56
Speaker 3: he likes to look good. He likes to look good like.
57:59
Speaker 3: Once it girls that, he'll get fade again.
58:00
Speaker 1: It likes to look good like likes to look good.
58:03
Speaker 1: This sure do, little editor that looks solid. Man, shout out,
58:09
Speaker 1: No for shout out, shout out for shout out.
58:10
Speaker 3: I have a shout out and it's going to be too.
58:13
Speaker 3: Charcuterie boards at the Luwan Easter Bash twenty twenty five. Look,
58:20
Speaker 3: I'm a man who I don't like to socialized a
58:23
Speaker 3: whole lot. I love to sit by a charcuterie.
58:25
Speaker 1: Board, which, by the way, is just such a lie.
58:27
Speaker 3: Well, I know, once you get in the groups, but
58:29
Speaker 3: once you're there feeling it out like I'm somebody who'll
58:31
Speaker 3: just gravitate more towards the eating table and then kind
58:34
Speaker 3: of you kind of pick your shots. You kind of like, yeah,
58:36
Speaker 3: you find You're hoping you find your people there and
58:38
Speaker 3: so and so showed up yet, and then if new
58:40
Speaker 3: ones are coming over, you're kind of like, man, hopefully
58:41
Speaker 3: this doesn't last too long, but I like to find
58:43
Speaker 3: myself by the by the eating table and shout out Jason,
58:47
Speaker 3: but your shark. That whole table set up was as
58:50
Speaker 3: good as I've ever seen, as good as I've ever seen.
58:54
Speaker 3: And we got a photo up right now. But picture
58:56
Speaker 3: like little motes and crevices going throughout the board, and
59:00
Speaker 3: those little moats and crevices are like cheese and chocolates,
59:03
Speaker 3: different variations of chocolates. It was you as your tuna
59:06
Speaker 3: salad sandwiches to where the bread is kind of soft
59:08
Speaker 3: and smashed into the tuna salad, the what's the what's
59:13
Speaker 3: like the yellow orange cheese, pimento pimento cheese, the little
59:16
Speaker 3: pimento cheese bites, shit, bro the cups that you had
59:21
Speaker 3: with the salami and the cheeses and the olives, like
59:25
Speaker 3: it was incredible. It was incredible.
59:27
Speaker 1: It is amazing. Jason made lawan Easter Bash twenty twenty five.
59:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a would be?
59:32
Speaker 1: It was awesome, beautiful shadow shadows shotowt No Free Shadow,
59:36
Speaker 1: My shadow, No Free Shadow is the first time being
59:40
Speaker 1: sun kissed after a long winter, and it kind of
59:43
Speaker 1: goes back to La Wan Easter Bash twenty twenty five. Man,
59:46
Speaker 1: we were all out there all day. It's like hot
59:49
Speaker 1: where if it was like it's been weeks of it
59:51
Speaker 1: being that temperature. Everybody like, yeah, it's pretty hot out here,
59:53
Speaker 1: but I feel like it was everybody's first time, like
59:54
Speaker 1: kind of being out in the open after a long
59:56
Speaker 1: hibernating winter and everyone's just like enjoying a little bit
59:59
Speaker 1: of sweat going on your cheeks. At the end of
1:00:01
Speaker 1: the day, you kind of look. I look at Tailor
1:00:02
Speaker 1: and I go, sweet, you got a little a little
1:00:04
Speaker 1: red on your face. She's like look at you, and
1:00:07
Speaker 1: I go look in the mirror and I'm like, dude, yes,
1:00:09
Speaker 1: we're back and tan time. It's beautiful. Sooner or later,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: Jack will see me in the bronco ripping around no shirt.
1:00:15
Speaker 1: Just try to keep that tan even baby. I'm I'm
1:00:19
Speaker 1: about it.
1:00:20
Speaker 3: I love it.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: I Hey, there's not a better feeling, man than getting
1:00:24
Speaker 1: that first hand. Yeah, boys, got it.
1:00:28
Speaker 5: I got one kind of on the same lines as yours.
1:00:31
Speaker 5: But it's the first time you get into a pool
1:00:34
Speaker 5: after a winner or whatever. And apparently yesterday my cousin
1:00:37
Speaker 5: told me he's ex army guys, so like, I believe
1:00:40
Speaker 5: what he's saying.
1:00:40
Speaker 6: Was apparently the hottest record on day for April twentieth
1:00:44
Speaker 6: ever earlier this year.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: So it was a beautiful.
1:00:47
Speaker 6: Dayesterday in Nashville.
1:00:48
Speaker 3: Pool was going.
1:00:49
Speaker 5: I was at my parents' house and just like getting
1:00:51
Speaker 5: in there and just diving in, just kind of floating around.
1:00:54
Speaker 9: You.
1:00:54
Speaker 6: Remember, Yeah, the good times are right on the horizon.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're on the horizon.
1:00:58
Speaker 3: I love the water.
1:00:59
Speaker 6: So anytime I getting the pool, the ocean, the lake,
1:01:01
Speaker 6: it's a good day. Sipping on some neutral, sitting on neutral,
1:01:06
Speaker 6: like whatever you want.
1:01:06
Speaker 3: Man, they both work.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: Also, you brought you said four twenty yesterday. Oh, my
1:01:12
Speaker 1: wife and I nine year anniversary.
1:01:15
Speaker 3: So nine years manage you guys do easter. We just chilled.
1:01:21
Speaker 1: We just chilled. Man, it was awesome.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: Like, so did you throw on a you throwing a
1:01:25
Speaker 3: roast spark and spark that ship up?
1:01:28
Speaker 1: You don't worry about my personal life and on your
1:01:30
Speaker 1: birthday personal life. No, that's gog. Could you imagine could
1:01:40
Speaker 1: you imagine me like putting on the shold and I
1:01:42
Speaker 1: kind of over the kail and start kissing the neck
1:01:44
Speaker 1: a little shit we doing? You know you in the buggalo?
1:01:47
Speaker 3: Yeah?
1:01:48
Speaker 2: Are you still watching you while we get that.
1:01:51
Speaker 1: This is battle camp? Yeah? Yeah, we were sitting there
1:01:58
Speaker 1: and uh, it was like, yeah, we kind of just
1:02:01
Speaker 1: chow because it was Easter and the kids were all
1:02:02
Speaker 1: about Easter. We did this this so last year, we're
1:02:06
Speaker 1: driving down Granny White and we see a dog and
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the dogs are just like kind of in the open,
1:02:11
Speaker 1: So we get out, we get the dog. We find
1:02:13
Speaker 1: out we like go over to these people's houses. These
1:02:15
Speaker 1: this old couple lives in this house. We end up
1:02:18
Speaker 1: hanging out their house for like an hour. This lady Margaret,
1:02:20
Speaker 1: it's like showing us our greenhouse, their garden. Like it's
1:02:23
Speaker 1: just awesome to be around them. They send us a
1:02:26
Speaker 1: east like they do like an Easter egg hunt for
1:02:28
Speaker 1: the neighborhood every year, and we like we went to
1:02:30
Speaker 1: that hung out. It was awesome, nice and then obviously
1:02:33
Speaker 1: you guys know Jason like I don't want a flex
1:02:36
Speaker 1: but like your I righte every day, every day, Monday
1:02:39
Speaker 1: through Friday, like we're eating like crazy good meals and
1:02:42
Speaker 1: so Tayler, like last night I called shum up. I'm
1:02:44
Speaker 1: like Torchies, what should I get? So we order a
1:02:47
Speaker 1: budge of that torches got that caso.
1:02:49
Speaker 3: But was it enough?
1:02:50
Speaker 1: No hughe babies Burgers milkshakes. Just sitting there watching my team,
1:02:55
Speaker 1: the Toronto maple Leaves take one oh against the Senators
1:02:59
Speaker 1: due my team, my boys.
1:03:03
Speaker 2: The number one seed, number one, bro.
1:03:06
Speaker 1: You want the last time they won a Cup nineteen
1:03:09
Speaker 1: sixty seven. See are notorious for being for getting kicked
1:03:17
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs in the first round. Notorious for it,
1:03:19
Speaker 1: and everyone I talked to who's been in the NHL
1:03:21
Speaker 1: says the Toronto may Believes are like the Dallas Cowboys.
1:03:24
Speaker 1: Like it's like like you're treated like royalty, like that
1:03:27
Speaker 1: is the America's team. That's whatever, NHL's team. And then
1:03:31
Speaker 1: Austin Matthew Scottsdale guy Senators, their captain Brady Kuchuk, he's
1:03:35
Speaker 1: a scott Stale guy. So I got a couple of
1:03:36
Speaker 1: azy boys walking to sea on their chest watched them
1:03:39
Speaker 1: good old fashioned hockey, watching the boys crush them. Sixty
1:03:41
Speaker 1: two cashed in a nice little money line, Toronto Bett,
1:03:47
Speaker 1: We're up, We're gonna win it all this year.
1:03:51
Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's go.
1:03:53
Speaker 2: I got a shout out, A free shout out what
1:03:55
Speaker 2: you got This morning? I was working out in the
1:03:57
Speaker 2: garage and I saw something and that I wish I
1:04:00
Speaker 2: could meet the dad that created it. But it's the
1:04:04
Speaker 2: tennis ball in the garage that lets you know when
1:04:06
Speaker 2: to stop pulling forward nice and it's multi use like
1:04:10
Speaker 2: when you're growing up. You punch it, yeah, you dodge it.
1:04:14
Speaker 2: And it was I saw it in my friend's garage,
1:04:16
Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, whoever this legend was?
1:04:19
Speaker 3: You know?
1:04:20
Speaker 2: When he finished screwing in that little thing up top,
1:04:23
Speaker 2: just stood back, put his hands on his hips, looked
1:04:25
Speaker 2: at it and was like I just changed the world.
1:04:28
Speaker 3: And he did.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: And I wish I knew.
1:04:29
Speaker 3: Nn't wait to tell the rest of the dad's is
1:04:31
Speaker 3: practice right.
1:04:33
Speaker 2: Like y'all got to do this. You or your wife
1:04:35
Speaker 2: will never run into the front of your garage again.
1:04:37
Speaker 2: Once you do this.
1:04:38
Speaker 3: Yeah icon, it's a great shout out.
1:04:40
Speaker 1: Yeahs of mankind ever, Yes, hence mankind.
1:04:47
Speaker 3: Anybody anybody trying to follow that one. Oh okay o.
1:04:53
Speaker 8: Ship, It's not like that had I want to shout
1:04:57
Speaker 8: out Alex Cant too. He came to the shot last
1:05:00
Speaker 8: week you guys had just left. He is a border
1:05:02
Speaker 8: patrol officer down in Texas, dropped off some patches for
1:05:06
Speaker 8: the boys. So I said that we would shout him
1:05:09
Speaker 8: out on the pod. So, uh yeah, shout out Alex Canto.
1:05:13
Speaker 8: We appreciate you what you do down there on the border.
1:05:15
Speaker 8: All right, now we got some uh some patches. Show
1:05:18
Speaker 8: shout out Alex.
1:05:19
Speaker 1: Shout out Alex Man, appreciate you coming, Bob brother.
1:05:25
Speaker 3: Let's dive in.
1:05:26
Speaker 1: We're good.
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Speaker 4: It's an honor, it's an it is an honor to
1:07:15
Speaker 4: have you on. Man, I'd been looking forward to this
1:07:19
Speaker 4: for a long time.
1:07:19
Speaker 3: I appreciate you're not a big interview guy.
1:07:21
Speaker 4: I'm not. So we are off season too, and it's
1:07:24
Speaker 4: like and it's like in my kind of my hometown,
1:07:28
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like where I really just try
1:07:31
Speaker 4: to like unwine and not get into too much. So really,
1:07:37
Speaker 4: she kind of pushed me to do it.
1:07:38
Speaker 1: Should I kill me?
1:07:39
Speaker 2: Man?
1:07:40
Speaker 3: Yes?
1:07:40
Speaker 4: You really did not. Really, No, I was wanting to
1:07:43
Speaker 4: be damn. Wanted to my wife and.
1:07:48
Speaker 3: If she wanted to we got the wife. Now, we
1:07:51
Speaker 3: got a little Micah here.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do a tell all of the bus. That'll
1:07:55
Speaker 1: be nice. I know every person in Nashville who has
1:07:57
Speaker 1: ever gone to a Tennessee Titans football game is smiling
1:07:59
Speaker 1: ear to ear right now. They're thinking about you. And
1:08:01
Speaker 1: you were telling a story before about coming back and
1:08:04
Speaker 1: playing the Titans for the first time. I like you
1:08:06
Speaker 1: to relive that for me and camera.
1:08:08
Speaker 4: So back last season was the first time I played
1:08:11
Speaker 4: against the Titans and crazy thing. It's been five years
1:08:16
Speaker 4: and it was a really emotional time for me. It
1:08:20
Speaker 4: was kind of weird and eerie because it's like, you know,
1:08:22
Speaker 4: I really I wasn't playing, and it was like I
1:08:25
Speaker 4: was going out there and I was seen. I mean,
1:08:28
Speaker 4: there's like maybe two guys there since I've been there,
1:08:30
Speaker 4: you know, but it's a lot of the same resource staff.
1:08:34
Speaker 4: You know. I saw Jeb of course saw Jeb, you.
1:08:36
Speaker 1: Know, Jeff Wald Marcus, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:08:41
Speaker 4: But got to see Amy and Keith and the ownership
1:08:44
Speaker 4: and it was it was cool. Got to share a
1:08:47
Speaker 4: moment a little bit and got a big hug, and
1:08:49
Speaker 4: I was kind of unexpected for me. I didn't know
1:08:52
Speaker 4: how that was going to go, and they were just
1:08:55
Speaker 4: very welcoming, and I think for me personally, like it
1:08:59
Speaker 4: was so such a good five years regardless of how
1:09:02
Speaker 4: it finished and all that, but there's a lot of
1:09:04
Speaker 4: good memories in there, and it was it was kind
1:09:05
Speaker 4: of cool to share a moment with them, and you
1:09:08
Speaker 4: never close the door man, you never closed the door?
1:09:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, why why was it? Why was Why did it
1:09:12
Speaker 3: feel unexpected? Do you feel like it ended in a
1:09:15
Speaker 3: very awkward way to where you just you more so.
1:09:18
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm gonna use the word hate for
1:09:20
Speaker 3: a lack of a better term, but you just have
1:09:22
Speaker 3: this assumption built up in your head how it might go. Yeah,
1:09:26
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of animosity, but maybe not really
1:09:29
Speaker 3: I think a little bo.
1:09:30
Speaker 4: It's I mean pride, right, you know, like at the time,
1:09:35
Speaker 4: like Ryan played unbelievable and I was upset that it
1:09:37
Speaker 4: wasn't me and I wanted to be there. I wanted
1:09:40
Speaker 4: to be a part of that. And when it didn't
1:09:42
Speaker 4: work out, I didn't know what that response was going
1:09:45
Speaker 4: to be from people that were around there, I know,
1:09:48
Speaker 4: for how it was for me personally, Like you know, yeah,
1:09:50
Speaker 4: I was upset, but at the same time, we had
1:09:54
Speaker 4: so many people in there that were so good to
1:09:57
Speaker 4: me that I was like, huh, I wonder how that's
1:09:59
Speaker 4: gonna like pan out? Like I didn't. I didn't really
1:10:02
Speaker 4: get to say goodbye maybe the way that I wanted to,
1:10:05
Speaker 4: and to see people, to see some familiar faces, the
1:10:09
Speaker 4: love and all that that was still there, like it
1:10:11
Speaker 4: was very genuine and yeah it was. I mean it
1:10:14
Speaker 4: was emotional for me. So it was kind of one
1:10:16
Speaker 4: of those moments. And it does help when you win
1:10:18
Speaker 4: the game obviously, Yeah, but yeah, it was cool to
1:10:21
Speaker 4: see a lot of a lot of old faces.
1:10:23
Speaker 1: Did you have a lot of guys on the team
1:10:25
Speaker 1: leading up to playing the Titans that were like, Hey,
1:10:26
Speaker 1: we're gonna get.
1:10:27
Speaker 3: One for you.
1:10:28
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's funny because d Q he does
1:10:31
Speaker 4: he does like a rotation of captains every week, and
1:10:34
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's guys that either played for
1:10:37
Speaker 4: that team or whatever. So when it was the Titans week,
1:10:40
Speaker 4: I was like, he's for sure. Like I was like,
1:10:43
Speaker 4: he's gonna because at the at the end of the day,
1:10:45
Speaker 4: like he picks three guys and then like he has
1:10:47
Speaker 4: a guy basically speak to the team, And for me,
1:10:52
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm probably gonna end up being one
1:10:54
Speaker 4: of those guys just because how it played out. So
1:10:58
Speaker 4: it was kind of the team was like kind of
1:11:01
Speaker 4: rallying around that and I'm like, guys, I'm I'm like
1:11:03
Speaker 4: five years removed, Like you know, that staff, everybody there,
1:11:07
Speaker 4: like most of those guys are, but you.
1:11:08
Speaker 1: Remember Ben Jones, like every time we played Houston, Oh
1:11:11
Speaker 1: for sure, it was always like super personal to him.
1:11:13
Speaker 1: And he was at the Titans for seven years, yes,
1:11:15
Speaker 1: and even that seventh year to be like Ben, like this,
1:11:19
Speaker 1: you gotta we don't worry, We're gonna get this one
1:11:21
Speaker 1: for you.
1:11:22
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:11:22
Speaker 1: So they were rallying around you like that a little bit.
1:11:24
Speaker 4: And we had such a good team, just a like
1:11:27
Speaker 4: a core group of guys last year. That was just fun.
1:11:29
Speaker 4: It reminded me a lot of like our first few
1:11:31
Speaker 4: years in Tennessee. Just guys are very close regardless of
1:11:35
Speaker 4: what side of the ball they played on. So it
1:11:38
Speaker 4: was a pretty cool moment for me to be a
1:11:39
Speaker 4: part of that. And yeah, those guys, man, they were
1:11:42
Speaker 4: we're gonna get this one for you. I'm like, it's
1:11:45
Speaker 4: still a regular game for me. Like we're good, bro.
1:11:48
Speaker 1: But when the clock struck zero, it was a piece
1:11:50
Speaker 1: you Like there was a little bit that's like your
1:11:54
Speaker 1: competitive nature.
1:11:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, got those best?
1:11:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. How was how was the the goodbye? You say?
1:12:01
Speaker 1: You might have been the goodbye you wanted to have
1:12:02
Speaker 1: obviously the way it ended with the Denver with the
1:12:06
Speaker 1: Denver game, and we'll get into all that, but like
1:12:08
Speaker 1: when you're cleaning out your locker for the last time,
1:12:11
Speaker 1: do you like remember that. Do you remember looking back
1:12:13
Speaker 1: and being like, I think, Okay, this is probably the
1:12:14
Speaker 1: last one I'll ever step in this facility again after
1:12:16
Speaker 1: being picked.
1:12:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. I think those those emotions definitely
1:12:20
Speaker 4: crossed my mind. What was hard about it was I
1:12:26
Speaker 4: was I mean, I was like twenty six, so I
1:12:28
Speaker 4: was like, I'm just I'm I'm gonna find the next
1:12:30
Speaker 4: spot and I'm going to go play, and I'm going
1:12:32
Speaker 4: to go prove everybody wrong. And instead of like kind
1:12:36
Speaker 4: of just like you said, taking a moment and like
1:12:38
Speaker 4: realizing like what was really going on and to just
1:12:43
Speaker 4: say thank you to a lot of the people that
1:12:45
Speaker 4: were I mean, there's people in there job you know,
1:12:50
Speaker 4: hoss and hosses in there anymore, but you know, just
1:12:52
Speaker 4: years and years and years of people that you know
1:12:55
Speaker 4: did a lot for you. So I think I was
1:12:57
Speaker 4: so focused on what was next that I didn't didn't
1:13:00
Speaker 4: really take time to just say, you know, hey, thank you.
1:13:02
Speaker 4: We we had a good run.
1:13:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:13:05
Speaker 1: It's hard to be present in those moments, for sure,
1:13:07
Speaker 1: it really is.
1:13:08
Speaker 3: How was it for you as a player kind of
1:13:09
Speaker 3: going through. I'm not going to say first you've had
1:13:11
Speaker 3: plenty of adversities, but a big adversity known that you
1:13:14
Speaker 3: were the second overall pick, and probably a part of
1:13:17
Speaker 3: you feels like maybe yourself personally, like did I fail
1:13:20
Speaker 3: this franchise or am I starting to doubt my ability?
1:13:22
Speaker 3: Like bring us in your head of the player in
1:13:25
Speaker 3: that moment in that year, Oh.
1:13:26
Speaker 4: Dude, it was yeah, all of that. And I think
1:13:30
Speaker 4: a lot of that was because I have such high
1:13:33
Speaker 4: expectations for myself that I was. I envisioned being a
1:13:37
Speaker 4: part of a super Bowl team there. I envisioned myself
1:13:39
Speaker 4: kind of like being a guy and playing up to
1:13:43
Speaker 4: all the expectations, and when it doesn't work out that way,
1:13:47
Speaker 4: it's a it's a sting. And I think for a
1:13:50
Speaker 4: long period of time, like I never really had to
1:13:52
Speaker 4: deal with that. You know. I came here at Oregon
1:13:54
Speaker 4: and we were rolling, you know, and.
1:13:56
Speaker 3: I three till what was it, three or four touchdown
1:13:58
Speaker 3: ass in the first half of this first year.
1:14:00
Speaker 1: He had a perfect perfect quarterback rating. Yeah, hey, that
1:14:04
Speaker 1: game too, We'll get into that. That game, I was like,
1:14:07
Speaker 1: we're gonna win it, because but the year before that,
1:14:10
Speaker 1: we were three to thirteen, and I was like, we're
1:14:13
Speaker 1: gonna be This is awful.
1:14:14
Speaker 4: Bro, It's so funny. I'll never forget. I'm sitting next
1:14:17
Speaker 4: to Craig Stevens after we'd won that game. He looks
1:14:19
Speaker 4: at me, he goes, we're gonna make the playoffs this year,
1:14:21
Speaker 4: and then we lose like six.
1:14:23
Speaker 3: I was like, what the yeah?
1:14:27
Speaker 4: But no, I mean yeah, I just you go through
1:14:29
Speaker 4: a lot of ups and sometimes you feel like you're invincible,
1:14:33
Speaker 4: and I think I was kind of in that mode
1:14:35
Speaker 4: and I was struggling a little bit. Probably. I would
1:14:38
Speaker 4: even say, like in twenty eighteen just being hurt. I
1:14:42
Speaker 4: was like banged up, and that's right.
1:14:45
Speaker 3: You had the was it the wrist of handle four?
1:14:47
Speaker 4: I don't wish twenty eighteen up on anybody like I was.
1:14:50
Speaker 4: I had a fraction in my neck, I had a
1:14:53
Speaker 4: broken rib, I had torn plant and fascy itis. It
1:14:56
Speaker 4: was like it was a mess.
1:14:57
Speaker 1: And it sounds like it is off. It's lined to
1:14:59
Speaker 1: do better.
1:15:00
Speaker 4: That's not true. That's true.
1:15:04
Speaker 3: The Ravens.
1:15:06
Speaker 1: A that Ravens games crazy.
1:15:11
Speaker 4: Talk about. We got to talk about that. A lot
1:15:13
Speaker 4: of that was I was holding the ball. It's fair,
1:15:15
Speaker 4: you know, but yeah, I was just I think, like
1:15:18
Speaker 4: twenty eighteenenty seventeen, like I was, I didn't feel invincible anymore.
1:15:23
Speaker 4: I had. I had a really bad ankle injury in sixteen,
1:15:27
Speaker 4: very unfortunate, where you know, you just got legs like
1:15:30
Speaker 4: tangled up and I broke my ankle, and that was
1:15:33
Speaker 4: kind of the first time really as an athlete where
1:15:35
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like, Okay, I'm really not superhuman, like
1:15:39
Speaker 4: I'm going to I can get hurt, I can kind
1:15:41
Speaker 4: of get in trouble in that sense. And it was
1:15:47
Speaker 4: kind of interesting because I think a lot of that
1:15:49
Speaker 4: started to develop a little bit of the anxiety, the
1:15:52
Speaker 4: fear of not being maybe who I thought I was,
1:15:56
Speaker 4: and I think that all kind of cumulated into what
1:15:59
Speaker 4: transpired in nineteen, where I mean, I wasn't playing well
1:16:02
Speaker 4: at all, be completely honest with you, and I think
1:16:04
Speaker 4: Braves was just trying to like hang on during camp
1:16:07
Speaker 4: and we all kind of knew Ryan was playing well,
1:16:10
Speaker 4: and I think out of respect for me, he was like,
1:16:12
Speaker 4: just keep it, like we'll get you there. We'll get
1:16:14
Speaker 4: you there, because I mean we've I played against him.
1:16:16
Speaker 4: He was a defensive corner in Houston, like I had
1:16:18
Speaker 4: some good runs against him, so he kind of knew
1:16:21
Speaker 4: what the potential was. And I think I was so
1:16:23
Speaker 4: lost in my own mind that I just it kind
1:16:27
Speaker 4: of just led to what it was. So yeah, I
1:16:30
Speaker 4: mean it's interesting because I think throughout my career, I've
1:16:36
Speaker 4: kind of had these peaks and valleys, and I'm starting
1:16:40
Speaker 4: to overcome these values because I'm leaning into a little
1:16:44
Speaker 4: bit more of the mental side of the game. I
1:16:47
Speaker 4: was so much more like physical, Like I was like
1:16:49
Speaker 4: I can just kind of outrun people, I can outthrow people.
1:16:52
Speaker 4: Now it's like, Okay, you can't do that anymore, Like
1:16:55
Speaker 4: how are you going to kind of create the advantage
1:16:58
Speaker 4: create those types of things? And that's when I started
1:17:01
Speaker 4: to kind of learn a little bit more about how
1:17:02
Speaker 4: to play the position. And that was a lot of
1:17:04
Speaker 4: that had to do with like being with the Raiders
1:17:06
Speaker 4: and and so yeah, but I think over time you
1:17:10
Speaker 4: just kind of learn, and part of that adversity made
1:17:13
Speaker 4: me better.
1:17:14
Speaker 1: When you talk about things you would do a little
1:17:16
Speaker 1: bit differently, do you ever wish you were more vocal
1:17:18
Speaker 1: with the ocs. Yeah, one thing I noticed, There's one
1:17:22
Speaker 1: thing I did notice when they're like, what was it
1:17:24
Speaker 1: doing between Ryan and Marcus is I always you always
1:17:27
Speaker 1: were very agreeable, like you were always super easy to
1:17:29
Speaker 1: get along with. It always see my hey, markus are
1:17:31
Speaker 1: gonna do this and this, And there was never a
1:17:32
Speaker 1: pushback in a team meeting room. But I remember, I
1:17:35
Speaker 1: think it was the game after the Denver game, We're
1:17:37
Speaker 1: playing a Chargers. I remember Ryan's first starting him and Arthur.
1:17:40
Speaker 1: I walked into the little cafeteria on Saturday, and I
1:17:44
Speaker 1: literally hear Ryan going, don't call this play, call this one.
1:17:47
Speaker 1: I like this play on first down, like this play
1:17:48
Speaker 1: on second down. And he just seemed like he seemed
1:17:51
Speaker 1: like a guy that's been in the leaf for a
1:17:52
Speaker 1: long time and has had more valleys. And so when
1:17:55
Speaker 1: you look back at that, like what would you have
1:17:57
Speaker 1: done differently from like a vocal standpoint with these ocs.
1:17:59
Speaker 4: I think you said it just being open and transparent
1:18:02
Speaker 4: about what I felt most comfortable with, because I think
1:18:08
Speaker 4: the ego for me is like I can do anything.
1:18:10
Speaker 4: Whatever you want me to do, I'll do it. But
1:18:14
Speaker 4: there's things that you really like and there's things that
1:18:15
Speaker 4: you're good at, and I think I could have been
1:18:17
Speaker 4: more transparent about Hey, I don't see that very well
1:18:21
Speaker 4: I'm not into that. I don't like hard play action,
1:18:25
Speaker 4: turning my back and like trying to figure out what's
1:18:27
Speaker 4: going on. Like being able to communicate those things early
1:18:30
Speaker 4: on in my career I think would have helped. And
1:18:32
Speaker 4: that's something that like with me now, like being able to,
1:18:35
Speaker 4: like hey, Jay talking about Jaden, like tell them what
1:18:40
Speaker 4: you like and what you don't like, you know, just
1:18:41
Speaker 4: kind of passing some of that knowledge on a little
1:18:44
Speaker 4: bit so that maybe he doesn't kind of follow the footsteps.
1:18:46
Speaker 10: That I did.
1:18:47
Speaker 3: You mentioned figuring some things out with the Raiders. What
1:18:51
Speaker 3: was it about the Raiders that was kind of bringing
1:18:53
Speaker 3: you out of your shell or your development or maybe
1:18:55
Speaker 3: it was coming out of that valley and being in
1:18:57
Speaker 3: a completely new environment, because sometimes that's super helpful for
1:19:00
Speaker 3: a player.
1:19:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of that, A lot of it was
1:19:05
Speaker 4: Coach Gruden. He was like, hey, I want you to
1:19:08
Speaker 4: come here for a couple of years, just like find yourself.
1:19:12
Speaker 4: I know you're kind of not you who you are,
1:19:15
Speaker 4: Like you're kind of lost, and he's like, man, just
1:19:18
Speaker 4: take your time figure it out. And I have a
1:19:21
Speaker 4: lot of respect for Coach Gruden. I know people may
1:19:23
Speaker 4: have however they feel about him, but at that point
1:19:26
Speaker 4: in time in my career, that's exactly what I needed.
1:19:28
Speaker 4: And I was in a great quarterback room like Derek's
1:19:31
Speaker 4: awesome and being able just to kind of find the
1:19:35
Speaker 4: love again almost like competing and having fun. And a
1:19:40
Speaker 4: lot of that was just like Gruden, like, hey, just
1:19:43
Speaker 4: go out there and feel free to make a mistake,
1:19:45
Speaker 4: like you don't have to be perfect. So I really
1:19:49
Speaker 4: kind of aligned with that and I felt very comfortable
1:19:52
Speaker 4: with it. And then on top of that, like Vegas
1:19:54
Speaker 4: is like the Ninth Island, so people in Hawaii when
1:19:57
Speaker 4: they go to vacation, they go to Vegas, And for me,
1:20:01
Speaker 4: I had a lot of family and friends there, so
1:20:03
Speaker 4: like I felt very comfortable in that community and it
1:20:07
Speaker 4: made it really easy for me just to kind of
1:20:09
Speaker 4: transition with my family, and I think a lot of
1:20:11
Speaker 4: that was kind of why I felt like I found
1:20:14
Speaker 4: myself again.
1:20:16
Speaker 1: About this place we're at right now, Oregon, like what
1:20:21
Speaker 1: has changed so much since you've been here, because it
1:20:23
Speaker 1: seems like they just keep growing every single year and
1:20:25
Speaker 1: things just keep getting better and better.
1:20:27
Speaker 4: It's impressive. It's impressive. And there was a street there
1:20:30
Speaker 4: when we were done where there was kind of a
1:20:33
Speaker 4: transition of coaches over and over again, but I think
1:20:36
Speaker 4: the heart and soul of the program has always been Eugene.
1:20:39
Speaker 4: It's like the only thing in town right, Like, no
1:20:42
Speaker 4: matter regardless of how the team's doing, like that stadium
1:20:44
Speaker 4: is usually sold out, and it was such a crazy
1:20:47
Speaker 4: following here. So to have that kind of steady fandom
1:20:52
Speaker 4: I think has always propelled this place to be good.
1:20:55
Speaker 4: And it's always given this place like expectations and regardless
1:21:00
Speaker 4: of who's been the coach, I think guys have always
1:21:03
Speaker 4: tried to come here because it is the University of Nike.
1:21:06
Speaker 4: And when you look at it from that standpoint, you
1:21:09
Speaker 4: let these guys just come in here and play and
1:21:12
Speaker 4: put it together. You can find ways to be pretty
1:21:14
Speaker 4: good here. And I think Dan's kind of found the formula,
1:21:16
Speaker 4: and it's been cool to watch.
1:21:18
Speaker 1: What's it like when you walk into this building and
1:21:20
Speaker 1: you go up. I don't know why this place is amaze,
1:21:22
Speaker 1: but you walk up, you walk up the stairs one
1:21:24
Speaker 1: of these seventeen staircases and you look over and it's
1:21:27
Speaker 1: got the Islands of Hawaii. Yeah, and there's another hallway
1:21:30
Speaker 1: that has the eight Mariota jersey, Like, yeah, what is that? Like,
1:21:33
Speaker 1: what does that feel like?
1:21:35
Speaker 3: Well, our first visit here, we're walking in and we're like, yo,
1:21:37
Speaker 3: this is Marcus's.
1:21:38
Speaker 1: House house, Like it's it's crazy, your only Heisman Trophy winner.
1:21:42
Speaker 1: It's sitting right there.
1:21:44
Speaker 4: It's surreal, man, And don't do that. No, I know
1:21:47
Speaker 4: it's really and I don't want to get emotional because
1:21:49
Speaker 4: it is like, you know, I came here. I was
1:21:51
Speaker 4: seventeen years old, like, didn't have much thought about what
1:21:55
Speaker 4: was going on outside of Hawaii and come to this
1:21:59
Speaker 4: place in you g. I was so homesick my first year,
1:22:02
Speaker 4: but like they took me kind of under their wing
1:22:05
Speaker 4: and regardless of who it was, like it was people
1:22:08
Speaker 4: in the community, it was a staff, a lot of
1:22:10
Speaker 4: the trainers are still here that I was here with,
1:22:12
Speaker 4: so they really kind of helped me transition into who
1:22:18
Speaker 4: I was. And yeah, I just it's it does it
1:22:22
Speaker 4: does get a little emotional because it's so such a
1:22:25
Speaker 4: part of you and it's kind of like I said,
1:22:29
Speaker 4: it's surreal, like to think that middle of the Pacific,
1:22:33
Speaker 4: some kid gets to come here and become the only
1:22:35
Speaker 4: Heisman Trophy When they're like that's well, I don't even
1:22:37
Speaker 4: know what the odds Are that right, Like that's wild. Yeah,
1:22:40
Speaker 4: So it kind of blows my mind and still to
1:22:42
Speaker 4: this day, like even walking through there, it is it's
1:22:45
Speaker 4: just surreal.
1:22:46
Speaker 1: How did you go through the process of choosing organ.
1:22:49
Speaker 4: That's a great story. Actually, So they offered me before
1:22:55
Speaker 4: I even started a game in high.
1:22:56
Speaker 3: School, before you even started a game.
1:22:58
Speaker 4: So there was a kid, there was a guy in
1:23:00
Speaker 4: front of me. His name is Jeremy Higgins's All state player.
1:23:02
Speaker 4: He's great, left handed kid, could really throw it and
1:23:06
Speaker 4: was committed to Utah State. So I really just had
1:23:09
Speaker 4: to wait my turn, and I like I messed around
1:23:11
Speaker 4: playing receiver, like I was doing all sorts of stuff,
1:23:14
Speaker 4: and I'd kind of done the camp circuit and got
1:23:19
Speaker 4: my name out there.
1:23:20
Speaker 3: I guess camp circuit like Nike camps, so Spark.
1:23:23
Speaker 4: The Nike Spark Camp. The other couple of combines they
1:23:28
Speaker 4: used to hold like these A P I A combines
1:23:30
Speaker 4: in Hawaii And.
1:23:31
Speaker 3: How old are you at this time? Like what are
1:23:33
Speaker 3: you like a soft sophomore? Part hadn't started yet.
1:23:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hadn't played. I mean I played a game
1:23:38
Speaker 4: here there when we're blowing teams out or when Jeremy
1:23:41
Speaker 4: had gotten hurt I played a little bit, but nothing
1:23:45
Speaker 4: to the extent to receive and organ at the time
1:23:47
Speaker 4: was like playing in national championship. Yeah, so it was
1:23:50
Speaker 4: kind of a weird, wild story that like, why are
1:23:53
Speaker 4: you offering this kid wasn't played yet. But what I
1:23:58
Speaker 4: learned the story was was the off into the line
1:24:00
Speaker 4: coach here, Coach great Wood was going and recruiting, and
1:24:03
Speaker 4: he was recruiting in my high school. Mina Greg who
1:24:06
Speaker 4: ended up playing here, was playing guard and it just
1:24:10
Speaker 4: so happened while he was there. He I guess, had
1:24:12
Speaker 4: noticed me running like I was. We were running sprints
1:24:14
Speaker 4: or something, and had threw my name out there. So
1:24:17
Speaker 4: they invited me to come to the camp here, and
1:24:20
Speaker 4: someone showed me a video. But Johnny kind of talked
1:24:22
Speaker 4: about this a little bit, Johnny Manziel and at the
1:24:25
Speaker 4: time I was offered and Johnny was offered, but they
1:24:29
Speaker 4: invited me to this camp and they basically were like,
1:24:31
Speaker 4: put me on his team to I don't know, play
1:24:34
Speaker 4: with all these other high school kids. And I had
1:24:37
Speaker 4: been there for two days. I'm in pads like doing
1:24:39
Speaker 4: all this stuff, and Johnny shows up unpadded T shirt
1:24:43
Speaker 4: and shorts, goes in there says they're going to do
1:24:46
Speaker 4: a workout with him. Coach Kelly hasn't really even talked
1:24:48
Speaker 4: to me. I've been here for two days. He's like, hey, like,
1:24:51
Speaker 4: why don't you just come in, like just do a
1:24:52
Speaker 4: workout with Johnny. And I'm mad because I'm like, Johnny's
1:24:57
Speaker 4: not even been here. They're gonna he's like offered whatever.
1:24:59
Speaker 4: Like I was just like not feeling the love basically,
1:25:02
Speaker 4: and we run a forty We're throwing and Johnny, it
1:25:09
Speaker 4: was the worker was unbelievable. Like I mean, I can
1:25:12
Speaker 4: still remember to this day, like I don't think a
1:25:14
Speaker 4: ball touch the ground and it's funny to think, you know,
1:25:18
Speaker 4: ten years later or whatever it is. But like he
1:25:20
Speaker 4: had two Heisman Trophy winners in there going through a
1:25:22
Speaker 4: workout together. And but I just remember at the time
1:25:27
Speaker 4: I left and Johnny commits, and I was so mad
1:25:32
Speaker 4: because I'm like, he hasn't been here. I've been here
1:25:36
Speaker 4: a couple of days, Like I've been talking to the coaches,
1:25:38
Speaker 4: Like he just commits on the spot and I don't
1:25:39
Speaker 4: even have a chance to commit or whatever. And I
1:25:41
Speaker 4: was like upset about it. And we're on the plane
1:25:44
Speaker 4: ride home and I told my mom like, I want
1:25:46
Speaker 4: to go to Washington. I had got an offer from
1:25:49
Speaker 4: Washington Steve Sarkes and was up there and sark was like,
1:25:53
Speaker 4: he gave me wrote out the red carpet. We had talked,
1:25:55
Speaker 4: you know. I was like, I'm going there. I'm selling
1:25:57
Speaker 4: from there. Yeah. So we're sitting there on the plane
1:26:02
Speaker 4: and my mom's like, you really want to go to Washington.
1:26:03
Speaker 4: I was like no, I mean, Oregon was like all
1:26:07
Speaker 4: like everywhere I wanted to be. And she's like, at
1:26:10
Speaker 4: some point in time, you're gonna have to compete, so
1:26:12
Speaker 4: you might as well compete wherever you go, and you
1:26:14
Speaker 4: might as well go where you want to go. And
1:26:16
Speaker 4: she told me that and that was it, and I
1:26:18
Speaker 4: committed when we got home, and kind of the rest
1:26:21
Speaker 4: is history. But yeah, that's wind it out. I was
1:26:24
Speaker 4: so sad on being an Orgon Duck because of guys
1:26:28
Speaker 4: that had played before me, Like there's a guy named
1:26:29
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Massoli who went to my high school had played
1:26:32
Speaker 4: quarterback here and I just remember watching the Ducks as
1:26:36
Speaker 4: a kid, and I was like, that's where I want
1:26:38
Speaker 4: to be. So for my mom to say that to
1:26:41
Speaker 4: me in that point in time, I was like, well, yeah,
1:26:43
Speaker 4: I might as well compete and go where I want
1:26:44
Speaker 4: to go. So that's how I know that's awesome.
1:26:46
Speaker 1: That is well because I did see I think that
1:26:48
Speaker 1: was on Club that Johnny was talking about him saying
1:26:52
Speaker 1: Marcus and he's like, this fucking guy just he talks
1:26:54
Speaker 1: about the work like not a ball touched the ground.
1:26:56
Speaker 1: Have you seen that clip?
1:26:57
Speaker 4: That's it?
1:26:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's making it an organ basically said that
1:27:02
Speaker 1: because of Marcus, I'm not gonna make it an organ.
1:27:04
Speaker 3: And that's wild. What was it like, dude? Talk about
1:27:08
Speaker 3: growing up in Hawaii. Like anytime that I've taken my
1:27:12
Speaker 3: family down for a vacation, I've seen eight jerseys in
1:27:15
Speaker 3: Hawaii and the culture they're like even listen to you
1:27:18
Speaker 3: in the interview, like the perspective that you have, the
1:27:21
Speaker 3: peaks and valleys, and just the intention and the moments
1:27:24
Speaker 3: that you seem to live in and appreciate. I feel
1:27:26
Speaker 3: like that's all over. That's all over Hawaii. Like that's
1:27:28
Speaker 3: like Hawaiian culture. Like everybody seems to be so proud
1:27:31
Speaker 3: of guys like yourself, Mantiiteo, guys who have like made
1:27:35
Speaker 3: it on the mainland and talk about just talk about that, yeah,
1:27:40
Speaker 3: like talk about it. You can talk about that. Man.
1:27:47
Speaker 4: It's funny because growing up, when you like watch the
1:27:50
Speaker 4: news and they would like the sports would come on,
1:27:52
Speaker 4: they would just show the athlete, like they wouldn't even
1:27:55
Speaker 4: really care about what the score was, like whether they
1:27:57
Speaker 4: put in the NFL MOLB like whatever. It was like, hey,
1:28:01
Speaker 4: so and so from Hawaii was two for three and
1:28:04
Speaker 4: hit a home run or and it was like, oh,
1:28:06
Speaker 4: by the way, like the Boston Red Sox won the game.
1:28:09
Speaker 4: So like very early on, like as a kid, you
1:28:12
Speaker 4: just it was always highlighted like people from Hawaii, and
1:28:16
Speaker 4: you kind of like that was like, oh, it's like
1:28:18
Speaker 4: it's the responsibility, like you want to be able to
1:28:20
Speaker 4: represent that the best way possible. So that was kind
1:28:24
Speaker 4: of always in my mind. And then really I think
1:28:27
Speaker 4: for Hawaii, like there is a little bit of a
1:28:29
Speaker 4: chip on your shoulder, like you're not a part of
1:28:30
Speaker 4: the continental US, so it's like, you know, the closest
1:28:34
Speaker 4: land mass is five and a half hours away, so
1:28:36
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, there is a little bit of a
1:28:38
Speaker 4: chip on your shoulder, and everyone's always talking about, oh,
1:28:40
Speaker 4: you're from Hawaii, Like you know, maybe the football is
1:28:43
Speaker 4: a little different down there or whatever, and it was
1:28:46
Speaker 4: just kind of that type of chip on your shoulder
1:28:48
Speaker 4: and people always highlighting those athletes. I think that really
1:28:52
Speaker 4: just like creates like this really crazy fandom, you know,
1:28:58
Speaker 4: and it's it's a blessing in guys. And I really like,
1:29:02
Speaker 4: whenever I look back and think about it, like, I'm
1:29:04
Speaker 4: very lucky to be where I'm from. And when it's
1:29:07
Speaker 4: all sad and done, that's that's where you'll find me.
1:29:09
Speaker 4: Somewhere on the beach. I'll be like three hundred pounds,
1:29:12
Speaker 4: but I'll be down. Yeah. Yeah, hell dude, have you
1:29:15
Speaker 4: you've been there all the rice and amazing.
1:29:17
Speaker 3: It's amazing when you go there. Is it like a
1:29:20
Speaker 3: movie star showing up?
1:29:21
Speaker 1: No?
1:29:21
Speaker 3: No, no, bro, it has to be. Is it crazy?
1:29:25
Speaker 1: I'll ask the missus what we're not walking around the mall? Yeah,
1:29:30
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like.
1:29:32
Speaker 4: It's really honestly not that bad.
1:29:33
Speaker 1: Who do you think is more famous in Noai? You
1:29:34
Speaker 1: were Manti Tale?
1:29:38
Speaker 4: Okay, I get Manti. He's got his own Netflix, bro,
1:29:42
Speaker 4: he does have his own Netflix Netflix. But I mean
1:29:46
Speaker 4: I was kind of a third part of Pat and Kirk.
1:29:50
Speaker 4: You know, they're just like oh, we kind of put
1:29:52
Speaker 4: Marcus in there.
1:29:53
Speaker 3: So how was that experience?
1:30:00
Speaker 4: It was all right, safe space, Yeah, it was it was.
1:30:05
Speaker 4: I will say our crew that we had for Netflix
1:30:08
Speaker 4: were it was awesome. They're unbelievable. Shannon and that entire
1:30:12
Speaker 4: group were great, especially with Kimmi being pregnant with her
1:30:14
Speaker 4: first like very respectful of space and all that. It
1:30:19
Speaker 4: was old though, after really like a week, I was like,
1:30:22
Speaker 4: I don't know why I signed up for this.
1:30:24
Speaker 3: They're just in your house every day all the time.
1:30:26
Speaker 4: Well, they actually they were like for outside stuff, they
1:30:29
Speaker 4: were cool. They're like, hey, I know Kelly's pregnant, like
1:30:32
Speaker 4: just once every couple of weeks, just like let us
1:30:34
Speaker 4: come do something, whether it was like meeting with Taylor
1:30:38
Speaker 4: our chef, or you know, like coming into the Ultra
1:30:41
Speaker 4: sound and different things like that. So they really kind
1:30:44
Speaker 4: of kept safe space. But like I was mic for
1:30:47
Speaker 4: like every practice, every game. It was brutal.
1:30:51
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing to think that you signed up for that.
1:30:54
Speaker 4: Just well I'm not gonna lie to you. Like the
1:30:58
Speaker 4: money was good, so yeah, I kind of turned that
1:31:02
Speaker 4: down too. I was they sat there like, hey, will
1:31:06
Speaker 4: you do this for this? I was like Uh yeah,
1:31:08
Speaker 4: one hundred percent.
1:31:09
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Speaker 3: because there are obviously stories that came out of your
1:33:29
Speaker 3: like questioning your commitment to the team, obviously being a
1:33:31
Speaker 3: teammate of yours, it's like you're reading that stuff and
1:33:35
Speaker 3: trying to fill in whatever gaps without being like, hey, Marcus,
1:33:38
Speaker 3: what happened in Atlanta? Like fresh off of Atlanta?
1:33:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was, And we talked about peaks and valleys,
1:33:43
Speaker 4: like that was a valley for sure, I think, and
1:33:47
Speaker 4: we all kind of know Art, Like Art's a very
1:33:49
Speaker 4: emotional person, so I think sometimes he can kind of
1:33:52
Speaker 4: maybe say some things that give or take maybe not
1:33:56
Speaker 4: what he wanted to say or wanted to portray. And
1:34:01
Speaker 4: it was one of those things where we were all
1:34:03
Speaker 4: pretty aligned of like what was going to happen. I
1:34:05
Speaker 4: was signed there for two years, yea, and it kind
1:34:09
Speaker 4: of flipped And I don't really know the extent why,
1:34:13
Speaker 4: And nothing against Art, Like I understand being a head
1:34:17
Speaker 4: coach it's a hard position. I understand that it can
1:34:21
Speaker 4: make you do some things that maybe you don't want
1:34:23
Speaker 4: to do right. But at the same time, like some
1:34:26
Speaker 4: things were said, and it was almost like I just
1:34:29
Speaker 4: kind of had to remove myself from that situation just
1:34:31
Speaker 4: because I was like, first of all, I didn't want
1:34:33
Speaker 4: to be distract I never want to be a distraction,
1:34:35
Speaker 4: Like that was never the intent. At the time. I
1:34:39
Speaker 4: was not sure how bad of a knee injury had
1:34:41
Speaker 4: and when they wanted to go in a different direction
1:34:44
Speaker 4: with Daz, I was they were like, hey, you know
1:34:46
Speaker 4: you're signed for a couple of years. We love to
1:34:48
Speaker 4: have you. So in my mind, I was like, well,
1:34:50
Speaker 4: at that point in time, like, let me just go
1:34:52
Speaker 4: make sure my knees like ready to roll, regardless of
1:34:55
Speaker 4: whatever that looks like. And you know, unfortunately, like when
1:35:00
Speaker 4: and I left to go get the surgery, like things
1:35:02
Speaker 4: were said, and yeah, I mean but at the end
1:35:05
Speaker 4: of the day, like I saw Art the other day
1:35:07
Speaker 4: or not the other day, but during the season, and
1:35:10
Speaker 4: I got nothing but love for him, Like he gave
1:35:12
Speaker 4: me a chance really after after Vegas, well almost at Oakland,
1:35:17
Speaker 4: but he gave me a chance to be a guy. Right,
1:35:23
Speaker 4: he gave me a chance to play. And I don't
1:35:25
Speaker 4: have any towards that animosity towards that situation kind of
1:35:30
Speaker 4: unfolded the way that it did, and it was unfortunate
1:35:34
Speaker 4: because I think at the end of the day, like,
1:35:37
Speaker 4: I'm not sure my relationship with art will ever really
1:35:39
Speaker 4: be the same. But when you look back on it, like,
1:35:43
Speaker 4: I learned a lot from it and it made me
1:35:46
Speaker 4: appreciate being around people that care for you and want
1:35:49
Speaker 4: you to be around.
1:35:50
Speaker 3: So is there anything you would have done different in
1:35:52
Speaker 3: those moments looking back on how everything unfolded.
1:35:54
Speaker 4: If I I guess if I had known maybe what
1:35:57
Speaker 4: was going to be said for people, So I guess,
1:36:00
Speaker 4: I don't know. Like he kind of came out after
1:36:01
Speaker 4: the I think it was like we had a bye week.
1:36:05
Speaker 4: Makaia was born on Wednesday. He brought me in on Thursday.
1:36:08
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, we're going to go in a different direction.
1:36:11
Speaker 4: You know, take some time to kind of talk it through,
1:36:13
Speaker 4: talk it to your agent whatever. Yeah, tough, right, there's
1:36:16
Speaker 4: a lot of emotions kind of built in there, so
1:36:20
Speaker 4: you know, talk to my agent. And we were just
1:36:23
Speaker 4: like it was very much like, hey, they want you
1:36:26
Speaker 4: back for another year. You know, you're kind of technically
1:36:30
Speaker 4: we're not out of it, but we were out of
1:36:32
Speaker 4: it in terms of playoff positioning. He's like, you know,
1:36:35
Speaker 4: let's just go maybe make sure your knees good to
1:36:37
Speaker 4: go and attack this AID camp again and see where
1:36:40
Speaker 4: you stand. Talk to Art, talked to Terry, and that
1:36:45
Speaker 4: was kind of where when I laughed, we were kind
1:36:47
Speaker 4: of all aligned in that, and my thought was that
1:36:49
Speaker 4: I was going to go get surgery, come back and
1:36:51
Speaker 4: kind of be around and helped as if he needed it.
1:36:55
Speaker 4: And then some things were said on Monday with Art,
1:36:58
Speaker 4: and at that point in time, I was like, Oh,
1:37:00
Speaker 4: I don't want to just kind of pop back in
1:37:02
Speaker 4: and like make this a whole ordeal, so I'll just
1:37:05
Speaker 4: kind of take it on the chin and just kind
1:37:07
Speaker 4: of step away from it. And you know, guys reached
1:37:10
Speaker 4: out and called and kind of checked in to see
1:37:11
Speaker 4: what was going on. But yeah, it was just like
1:37:16
Speaker 4: I never want to be kind of the center of attention.
1:37:19
Speaker 4: I just kind of want to do my job and
1:37:21
Speaker 4: make sure others around me or kind of getting better
1:37:25
Speaker 4: and I can help them kind of achieve what they
1:37:27
Speaker 4: want to achieve. So for me, like I saw Daz
1:37:32
Speaker 4: after the whole conversation talk to him, was like, hey, man,
1:37:34
Speaker 4: if you ever need anything, I'm here for you. I'm
1:37:37
Speaker 4: gonna go get my knee fixed, but don't hesitate the
1:37:39
Speaker 4: car or whatever. And I left, and I'm looking back
1:37:43
Speaker 4: on it, I probably should have stuck around maybe till
1:37:46
Speaker 4: the following week and just talk to the team. But
1:37:48
Speaker 4: in my mind, I was like, I'm coming back anyways.
1:37:52
Speaker 3: Right, you felt like you were aligned, Yeah.
1:37:53
Speaker 4: And I felt like I was like going, okay, I
1:37:55
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm not disappearing, like I'm going to
1:37:57
Speaker 4: come back and like be around. And but once that
1:38:00
Speaker 4: was sad, I was like, yeah, I don't think it's
1:38:03
Speaker 4: probably healthy for anybody for me just to walk back
1:38:05
Speaker 4: in there.
1:38:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:38:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was just yeah, stepped away, and you know,
1:38:11
Speaker 4: and like I said, like I think with Art, it's
1:38:14
Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because I do think he's a good guy. Like,
1:38:18
Speaker 4: and when you're put in positions where it's like, you know,
1:38:23
Speaker 4: maybe things aren't going the way that you want and
1:38:25
Speaker 4: things aren't really materializing, you know, I think unfortunately it
1:38:30
Speaker 4: can get a little bit where I don't I don't
1:38:35
Speaker 4: want to say like cover your ass, because I really
1:38:37
Speaker 4: don't think that's what it was. I just think like
1:38:39
Speaker 4: he didn't know what to say, and I wasn't there
1:38:42
Speaker 4: to make any sort of comment on it, and I
1:38:45
Speaker 4: think that's really why maybe he went down that road.
1:38:48
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I saw Art,
1:38:50
Speaker 4: Like I said, I don't got any hate in my
1:38:51
Speaker 4: heart for him.
1:38:52
Speaker 1: I just it is what it is, just a little
1:38:54
Speaker 1: bit different now. Yeah, that stuff happens, man. I mean,
1:38:57
Speaker 1: Art is an emotional guy and he does, like say
1:38:59
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And I'm sure it was tough
1:39:01
Speaker 1: for both of you, right, because you guys had a
1:39:03
Speaker 1: great relationship before the Titans, and he's a head coach
1:39:06
Speaker 1: as well, first time, and he's trying to figure out
1:39:08
Speaker 1: the best way and everybody knows like you don't win games,
1:39:11
Speaker 1: you're gonna get fired. Sure, so he's probably dealing with
1:39:13
Speaker 1: like very similar stress as you were feeling that whole
1:39:15
Speaker 1: entire time. So that's gotta be really tough for you too.
1:39:18
Speaker 1: Pivoting back to when you're in for the draft, when
1:39:24
Speaker 1: did you know, like, Okay, I'm probably gonna be a
1:39:25
Speaker 1: Titan At some point do you think did you think
1:39:28
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Tampa? No, I knew I wasn't
1:39:30
Speaker 1: in that mix, but it seemed like he was like
1:39:33
Speaker 1: Jamis or Mark.
1:39:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went down there. I met with love you
1:39:38
Speaker 4: coach Smith Jason like the GM, and I just didn't
1:39:42
Speaker 4: feel like I was kind of in the mix. I
1:39:43
Speaker 4: think they were just like, hey, it was like we
1:39:45
Speaker 4: want you to come in kind of meet you, get
1:39:48
Speaker 4: to know you a little bit, but check a box
1:39:50
Speaker 4: a little bit, which I was like, Okay, that's hey, man.
1:39:53
Speaker 1: You got you think that was you just I mean,
1:39:55
Speaker 1: you just want the heisman all that. I had no
1:39:58
Speaker 1: idea Jamis is their guy in the head already.
1:40:00
Speaker 4: I think when you have the first pick, like you
1:40:02
Speaker 4: have opportunities to really diagnose everything. And for whatever reason,
1:40:06
Speaker 4: maybe my tape or whatever it was, you know, but
1:40:10
Speaker 4: I didn't really think I was in that mix. But
1:40:12
Speaker 4: then what was really interesting was I get drafted to Tennessee.
1:40:17
Speaker 4: They pulled me, my agent and my marketing agent pulled
1:40:19
Speaker 4: me in the back and they're like, hey, don't don't
1:40:23
Speaker 4: put the hat on yet, don't put the jersey on yet,
1:40:25
Speaker 4: Like we don't really know exactly what's going to happen,
1:40:28
Speaker 4: like you might still end up getting moved. So yeah,
1:40:31
Speaker 4: So for like an hour, I didn't didn't take a picture,
1:40:35
Speaker 4: didn't do the media, waited and then did all that
1:40:38
Speaker 4: after it was like confirmed, but.
1:40:40
Speaker 1: So what was your agent and your marketing guy thinking, well,
1:40:43
Speaker 1: Philly with Chip, that's right. Yeah, yeah, he had the
1:40:46
Speaker 1: infamous quotea being like you, he went by past the
1:40:49
Speaker 1: house and realized it was too much money.
1:40:51
Speaker 4: See something like that. But I think that's what it was.
1:40:54
Speaker 4: I don't. I can't say for certain, but yeah, that
1:40:58
Speaker 4: was just kind of what happened. And then along the
1:41:01
Speaker 4: lines of that, when I got to Nashville, I didn't
1:41:04
Speaker 4: have a suit or anything. So I actually borrowed Wizards
1:41:07
Speaker 4: is like dress shirt and like put on a suit
1:41:09
Speaker 4: coat just to do the pictures and all that stuff
1:41:11
Speaker 4: because I was I was so far in Hawaii, like
1:41:14
Speaker 4: to get over for the next day for the press conference,
1:41:17
Speaker 4: Like we flew like all night, so I didn't I
1:41:20
Speaker 4: didn't have time to actually get a suit. I didn't
1:41:21
Speaker 4: even own a suit. Really.
1:41:24
Speaker 3: I had a couple of friends the trophy winner does.
1:41:27
Speaker 4: I had a couple from the ceremonies. Don't get me wrong,
1:41:30
Speaker 4: but yeah, I didn't have a suit ready to go.
1:41:32
Speaker 1: Did Chip or anybody call you during that process, because
1:41:35
Speaker 1: obviously I had a good relationship, they did not.
1:41:38
Speaker 3: Isn't that weird? I feel like coming out of college
1:41:40
Speaker 3: I'm thinking if Bo was like on a coaching a
1:41:42
Speaker 3: team or something, I feel like I would be like, hey,
1:41:45
Speaker 3: do you think I'm gonna get draft? Like what's the board? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
1:41:51
Speaker 3: what's the board saying? And I'm thinking like if I'm
1:41:54
Speaker 3: going to be a potential top five pick my head
1:41:56
Speaker 3: coach who I've had such an incredible relationship with during college,
1:41:59
Speaker 3: whin the highs, all the accolades that they got together,
1:42:02
Speaker 3: like you'd think like it would be there'd be some
1:42:05
Speaker 3: some communication. Yeah, you know what i mean, like, hey,
1:42:08
Speaker 3: what are you guys thinking out there in Philly?
1:42:10
Speaker 1: Chips at Philly would love.
1:42:11
Speaker 3: To come play out for Philly. Come where'd you want
1:42:14
Speaker 3: to go?
1:42:15
Speaker 4: Philly? I really actually I never never had a preference.
1:42:20
Speaker 1: I was like, no, seriously, but Chip Kelly, who you've
1:42:23
Speaker 1: already had so much success in his offense.
1:42:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, he's probably thinking.
1:42:27
Speaker 4: But I was like, probably really is awesome.
1:42:31
Speaker 3: You guys got messed up, I'm saying, coming out like
1:42:33
Speaker 3: no one knowing how how you were with Hawaii, being
1:42:36
Speaker 3: very homesick in organ then it's just such you know, Fay, Yeah,
1:42:40
Speaker 3: like you're still a kid. Like as she drafted, it's
1:42:43
Speaker 3: like an hour and half. I love to play for
1:42:45
Speaker 3: coach Kelly, but it's like no difference.
1:42:47
Speaker 1: At all the distance.
1:42:49
Speaker 4: That was the first thing when I got drafted. My
1:42:51
Speaker 4: mom looks at me, she was that is so far.
1:42:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry, Mom, Arizona or San Diego or something
1:42:56
Speaker 1: like that.
1:42:57
Speaker 4: Dude.
1:42:58
Speaker 1: I remember when you got draft did I was at
1:43:01
Speaker 1: Nissan Stadium for like they were doing like a host
1:43:04
Speaker 1: show thing, and obviously, you know, I was massive boys
1:43:07
Speaker 1: of metten Burger and you know Met's personality. So when
1:43:10
Speaker 1: you got picked, I was like fuck. I was so
1:43:14
Speaker 1: mad that you were picked because I was like, I mind,
1:43:16
Speaker 1: I'm like, Zach's gonna take us to the top man,
1:43:18
Speaker 1: He's the one, He's the one to get it done.
1:43:21
Speaker 1: And then you get picked whatever, I immediately leave the thing.
1:43:24
Speaker 1: I call Zach, I'm like where you eggs? Are him
1:43:26
Speaker 1: at my house? So I went and sat with him
1:43:27
Speaker 1: for a little bit. But I remember during it was
1:43:32
Speaker 1: a rookie mini camp. We're all kind of like peering
1:43:34
Speaker 1: out the winter, like, hey, what's this kid about? What's
1:43:36
Speaker 1: this Hawaiian guy all about? And you were zipping the
1:43:39
Speaker 1: ball in the field. I remember sitting there with Mett
1:43:41
Speaker 1: thinking of myself. It's so over. You are done, amigo,
1:43:46
Speaker 1: It is done. But Zach he was such a I mean,
1:43:49
Speaker 1: how like, is there anybody like Zach Mettenberger.
1:43:52
Speaker 4: There isn't. It was I really I did enjoy my
1:43:55
Speaker 4: time with Matt, like obviously when you walk in the building, like,
1:43:58
Speaker 4: that's such a weird you know, not relationship.
1:44:01
Speaker 1: Could not have you been around Zach a couple of times,
1:44:04
Speaker 1: completely different personnality. Yeah, Zach's like, hey, watch me spin
1:44:08
Speaker 1: this bitch, and Marcus is like, I don't really want
1:44:10
Speaker 1: to be the center of prettention. I want to help everybody.
1:44:11
Speaker 4: Else out for sure.
1:44:13
Speaker 3: Great, whatever you guys want to trust.
1:44:15
Speaker 1: Me, whatever you guys need me to do, I'm there.
1:44:17
Speaker 1: Exactually I'm gonna fucking like the world on fire.
1:44:21
Speaker 4: But that was I think that was what was cool.
1:44:22
Speaker 4: Like when I walked in there and you know, like
1:44:25
Speaker 4: Wiz kind of like gave me the job early on. Yeah,
1:44:28
Speaker 4: and I felt bad about it because I was like
1:44:30
Speaker 4: I didn't I hadn't even been here yet. And being
1:44:33
Speaker 4: around met like his personality, like I just kind of
1:44:37
Speaker 4: wanted to like not not disrupt, not like step on
1:44:41
Speaker 4: his toes really and being around him He was very
1:44:45
Speaker 4: almost welcoming, and he was just like, hey, man, I
1:44:48
Speaker 4: know you're not very vocal, but like if you need
1:44:50
Speaker 4: me to yell at somebody, like I'll do it for you.
1:44:52
Speaker 4: I was like, perfect, man, we're on the same day.
1:44:55
Speaker 1: Just imagine be like met sixty five, get him seventy seven.
1:44:59
Speaker 4: Can you help me? What was it?
1:45:02
Speaker 1: What was it like walking into that building Because you
1:45:04
Speaker 1: come from a place like this and then it was
1:45:07
Speaker 1: that was a huge shock for me. It's like going
1:45:08
Speaker 1: from college facilities to NFL facilities and being like it's
1:45:12
Speaker 1: kind of a dump.
1:45:14
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think Washington has newer facilities now,
1:45:19
Speaker 3: but even going to Washington, it's like you have the
1:45:21
Speaker 3: kitchen set up and it's just like buffet style food
1:45:24
Speaker 3: where it just has a red, yellow, and green card
1:45:26
Speaker 3: on if it's okay to eat.
1:45:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're taking what.
1:45:30
Speaker 3: You're doing, walks in like a basketball gym, you know
1:45:33
Speaker 3: what I mean?
1:45:34
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, and it's it's I'm so yeah, a dump
1:45:37
Speaker 1: relative to NFL teams. So I'm not just specifically going
1:45:40
Speaker 1: at the Titans. I just remember going from like Michigan
1:45:42
Speaker 1: and like then I go here and I'm like, you
1:45:45
Speaker 1: guys got a cold to like it's around the corner.
1:45:48
Speaker 3: But we had the silver we had like the silver
1:45:50
Speaker 3: ones or like a rubber made tub as like the
1:45:52
Speaker 3: cold tubs that like a rack po and fletch would
1:45:54
Speaker 3: set up, but not like an inground coldub whirlpool. It
1:45:59
Speaker 3: is a for it's a different world.
1:46:01
Speaker 1: The old cold tubs we had, you were there for
1:46:02
Speaker 1: when they went to the new setup.
1:46:04
Speaker 4: No, I didn't that. I was the only thing that
1:46:06
Speaker 4: was new. Was they kind of readid the locker room.
1:46:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had those, but they.
1:46:11
Speaker 4: Read the locker room, but the bathroom wasn't done yet.
1:46:14
Speaker 1: Right, So you walked into a construction zone that already
1:46:17
Speaker 1: wasn't that great. So you probably had to be thinking
1:46:20
Speaker 1: yourself like this is.
1:46:22
Speaker 4: Well the original one that I walked into was the
1:46:23
Speaker 4: old one. Yeah, and I was like, okay, here we go.
1:46:27
Speaker 3: You know this is gonna have sauna.
1:46:30
Speaker 1: I don't think.
1:46:30
Speaker 4: No, we had nothing. We had nothing, or maybe we
1:46:33
Speaker 4: had a sauna, but I don't know if it was working.
1:46:34
Speaker 1: And they had those big boxy like lockers when you
1:46:37
Speaker 1: put your sh the thing, yeah, and you're like, well
1:46:39
Speaker 1: this is such an eyesore. And it made that it
1:46:41
Speaker 1: made that like the area to walk through like so hard,
1:46:44
Speaker 1: like different point point.
1:46:45
Speaker 3: I mean even when I was there in eighteen, the
1:46:48
Speaker 3: saun was broken, like the entire year, just the steam room.
1:46:51
Speaker 1: Those were you there when the kid got cut and
1:46:53
Speaker 1: he pissed in the sauna?
1:46:55
Speaker 4: No?
1:46:55
Speaker 3: Were you?
1:46:56
Speaker 1: You weren't there.
1:46:57
Speaker 4: I don't remember that.
1:46:57
Speaker 1: There was one kid, Yeah, he got cut, like I think,
1:47:00
Speaker 1: offway through camp, even before cuts and you walk we
1:47:02
Speaker 1: walked in the locker room like it's the most terrible
1:47:03
Speaker 1: in here, and somebody's like, yeah, I think it was
1:47:05
Speaker 1: host Yeah, somebody pissing the song at least some guy
1:47:09
Speaker 1: just like Peede on the Hot Sound of Coles And
1:47:11
Speaker 1: that was just like I'll see you guys later. But yeah,
1:47:15
Speaker 1: it's just different. It's just different going from college to
1:47:17
Speaker 1: the NFL. So, like, how how was that for that
1:47:20
Speaker 1: that transition I was.
1:47:22
Speaker 4: I think I was just like so happy to be there.
1:47:24
Speaker 4: I never really think about it looking back on it,
1:47:27
Speaker 4: like it was it was like not the greatest, but yeah,
1:47:33
Speaker 4: it was what it is.
1:47:34
Speaker 3: What it was, you know, how was it keep it?
1:47:37
Speaker 3: Like compartmentalizing playing ball to the best of your ability
1:47:40
Speaker 3: and also the expectation of being a second overall pick.
1:47:43
Speaker 3: I want to say you're the high I mean, oh, yeah,
1:47:45
Speaker 3: we did interview Jamis, but we didn't ask them about this.
1:47:47
Speaker 3: But I feel like being a high a high overall
1:47:50
Speaker 3: pick as a quarterback, I'm always curious, like, do you
1:47:53
Speaker 3: feel that pressure expectation?
1:47:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, but I think I it was more
1:47:58
Speaker 4: from myself, like more internal, Like I was more worried
1:48:01
Speaker 4: about like me living out to my own standard, which
1:48:06
Speaker 4: I think sometimes can be detrimental as well. Yeah, but yeah,
1:48:10
Speaker 4: I was so so focused on making sure I was
1:48:13
Speaker 4: like trying to play to the best of my abilities,
1:48:15
Speaker 4: and maybe I lost a little bit of like being
1:48:17
Speaker 4: able to just enjoy like what was going on like
1:48:20
Speaker 4: stick out light. Yeah that first game.
1:48:24
Speaker 2: Man.
1:48:25
Speaker 1: Obviously, Like we thought to Jamis and we're like, hey,
1:48:27
Speaker 1: did you have a like kind of like a rivalry
1:48:30
Speaker 1: with Marcus at all?
1:48:30
Speaker 4: He was like, I saw parts of it.
1:48:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he was kind of talking about like how
1:48:34
Speaker 1: there was like kind of a rivalry Yeah, and like
1:48:36
Speaker 1: kind of wasn't then you guys like made amends or
1:48:38
Speaker 1: whatever he probably made.
1:48:39
Speaker 3: About you guys were like combine training. And the way
1:48:42
Speaker 3: he's thinking in his head is like he's like bucking up,
1:48:44
Speaker 3: kind of peacocking a little bit like it felt like
1:48:46
Speaker 3: a competition.
1:48:47
Speaker 1: Which just gotta be the funny.
1:48:48
Speaker 3: He's like Marcus wasn't really giving a whole lot and
1:48:50
Speaker 3: just knowing you. I'm thinking I wonder if Marcus was
1:48:52
Speaker 3: even thinking about.
1:48:52
Speaker 1: Even aware that a rivalry was taking place. Mark's like
1:48:55
Speaker 1: just doing his work of James is like f in
1:48:58
Speaker 1: the corner.
1:49:00
Speaker 4: Because like we never even like worked out together really
1:49:03
Speaker 4: so the guy that we trained with, Ryan Flaherty, one
1:49:06
Speaker 4: of my closest friends still to this day, but like
1:49:08
Speaker 4: he like try to time it out where we were separate,
1:49:11
Speaker 4: because I think he felt like that was what it was,
1:49:13
Speaker 4: and I was I like literally was like, I don't
1:49:16
Speaker 4: that's not something that crosses my mind, Like Jamis, isn't
1:49:19
Speaker 4: there working out like cool? Like I don't care.
1:49:21
Speaker 3: Didn't Jamis say he would see Marcus working on be
1:49:23
Speaker 3: like I don't want to go in there. Am I
1:49:26
Speaker 3: just playing?
1:49:27
Speaker 1: I think I think that might be like a little
1:49:29
Speaker 1: bit ye seasoned, like you put a little extra sauce
1:49:32
Speaker 1: on that. But there was definitely like a it was
1:49:34
Speaker 1: a Mark just workout. Yeah, that's ct brain for both
1:49:38
Speaker 1: of us because it was definitely ago. Yeah, but that
1:49:43
Speaker 1: first game, like it is, it is what it is.
1:49:45
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about a little bit, but like.
1:49:48
Speaker 3: Did you do it again?
1:49:49
Speaker 1: Were you excited to kind of.
1:49:51
Speaker 4: Put it what?
1:49:52
Speaker 10: I was like, we got this, I mean, touchdown, that's
1:49:57
Speaker 10: this easy in the NFL. Adowna, No, No, that was.
1:50:04
Speaker 4: I think that was like the maybe the third or fourth,
1:50:06
Speaker 4: the one to Kendel. Yeah, yeah, that was like the
1:50:08
Speaker 4: third or fourth. My first throw I'll never forget. It
1:50:10
Speaker 4: was roll pass. I understand a roll pass to the
1:50:12
Speaker 4: right and just run to the left. By the way
1:50:16
Speaker 4: it was, it was to the back. Was like the
1:50:18
Speaker 4: first read and you know, you're like, you're nervous. It's
1:50:20
Speaker 4: your first game playing an NFL. I was going number
1:50:24
Speaker 4: one the whole way, and I threw it to the
1:50:25
Speaker 4: Bishop and he got smoked by Levante David. I was like, sick, start, good,
1:50:32
Speaker 4: start start.
1:50:34
Speaker 1: We rolled them, man, and then literally halfway through that year,
1:50:38
Speaker 1: Wizard Hunt's gone and then your boy took the reins.
1:50:43
Speaker 4: Oh malarkey, Iro, do you want to talk about it?
1:50:47
Speaker 4: Absolutely all right?
1:50:48
Speaker 3: So I now before we start, Malarkey's the one that
1:50:52
Speaker 3: you did not like.
1:50:53
Speaker 1: I am on record saying I despised Mike Malarkey. Okay, yeah,
1:50:57
Speaker 1: I'm on record.
1:50:58
Speaker 3: Is that the one where you had to see patch
1:51:00
Speaker 3: and got it taken away?
1:51:01
Speaker 1: Actually, I said you and I should iron out. They
1:51:04
Speaker 1: took my seat and gave it to you. That's pretty crazy, right.
1:51:11
Speaker 4: I also a lot of fine money, that was I said,
1:51:14
Speaker 4: I also owe you a lot of fine money. No, no, no, no,
1:51:17
Speaker 4: that was.
1:51:17
Speaker 1: I love doing that. That was like my favorite thing
1:51:19
Speaker 1: in the world was bucking up for eight.
1:51:21
Speaker 3: That's funny. You're you got taken away mikets.
1:51:26
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize that's what it was. I was like,
1:51:28
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, here's just you got a sea patch.
1:51:30
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, cool.
1:51:32
Speaker 1: So we played Houston. Let me relive this for a second.
1:51:35
Speaker 4: One.
1:51:35
Speaker 1: We played Houston, we get Donkey stomped in Houston and
1:51:40
Speaker 1: on the way home, I think before the wheels even
1:51:42
Speaker 1: touched with like, Ken's out of here. The next day
1:51:44
Speaker 1: news breaks Ken wizardhunts out, Michael Larkey, stepping as an
1:51:47
Speaker 1: interim head coach, text, uh no, I'm sitting at home
1:51:52
Speaker 1: and Mike Malarkey text me and he's like, hey, come
1:51:55
Speaker 1: see me in my office tomorrow and I was like,
1:51:57
Speaker 1: all right, this first day there, this is like the
1:52:00
Speaker 1: night after the night of the news breaking of Ken.
1:52:04
Speaker 1: It's like, this is like, so it's Monday, Tuesday. I'll
1:52:06
Speaker 1: walk in his office and I literally made the joke
1:52:09
Speaker 1: taking my seat away, and he goes, yeah, we're gonna
1:52:13
Speaker 1: take your seat away.
1:52:13
Speaker 3: Here's was Malarkey there with which.
1:52:15
Speaker 1: Marky was the tight Ends coach. Okay, all right, tight
1:52:18
Speaker 1: Ends coach, which Malarkey is a tight Ends coach all time.
1:52:21
Speaker 1: Guy like he had a good vibe about him. Was
1:52:24
Speaker 1: like one of the boys boys type of thing. He
1:52:26
Speaker 1: got that crown placed on his head and a whole
1:52:28
Speaker 1: lot of things, a whole lot of things. His first
1:52:32
Speaker 1: order of business and he you know what, his reasoning was.
1:52:35
Speaker 1: His reasoning he goes to me, He goes, hey, listen, like,
1:52:38
Speaker 1: obviously the team's not doing very well right now. You're
1:52:40
Speaker 1: a young guy, and this is a lot to be
1:52:42
Speaker 1: like putting on you to have a seat on your chest.
1:52:43
Speaker 1: So like we're just gonna we're gonna take it. We'll
1:52:46
Speaker 1: let you focus on being you and give to somebody older.
1:52:51
Speaker 4: I don't think that was me though. I don't think
1:52:53
Speaker 4: they gave it to me. I don't remember having this.
1:52:54
Speaker 1: Marcus was only four captains and they took mine off
1:52:57
Speaker 1: and they gave one to you. Like, where do you
1:52:58
Speaker 1: think that c came from?
1:53:00
Speaker 3: How were you playing at this time?
1:53:01
Speaker 1: I was playing, all right. I think my rookie year
1:53:03
Speaker 1: was better. I played better my rookie year than I
1:53:06
Speaker 1: did my second. But I wasn't.
1:53:07
Speaker 3: Were you a distraction in the locker room?
1:53:09
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I mean was I No,
1:53:12
Speaker 1: he was. He was a distraction playing.
1:53:14
Speaker 4: He was a distraction in the huddle.
1:53:16
Speaker 1: Yes.
1:53:17
Speaker 4: Delaney used to be like, Taylor, get over. Taylor be
1:53:19
Speaker 4: over there talking to who knows who, and we're like
1:53:22
Speaker 4: thirty seconds on the play clock and I'm over there
1:53:24
Speaker 4: trying to call the play, and I'm like, we're like,
1:53:26
Speaker 4: where's Taylor? And Delaney's like, Taylor, get your ass over.
1:53:30
Speaker 1: A lot of shit talking. He was over there kind
1:53:33
Speaker 1: of spound like.
1:53:33
Speaker 4: He doesn't really need to know the play, Like Ben's
1:53:35
Speaker 4: gonna tell me what to do. Anyway.
1:53:39
Speaker 3: That did.
1:53:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben kind of just did. Would say one thing,
1:53:42
Speaker 1: we got it, we got it. We had a nice operation.
1:53:45
Speaker 1: But yeah, he took the sea. I totally forgot that
1:53:47
Speaker 1: he gave it to you, and it literally didn't register.
1:53:50
Speaker 1: This is how dumb I am. It didn't register to
1:53:51
Speaker 1: like three weeks later that like, Oh, he told me
1:53:53
Speaker 1: he's gonna give somebody older, and then he gave it
1:53:55
Speaker 1: to a guy that's a year like in his rookie season.
1:53:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough.
1:53:58
Speaker 1: That was tough. I do think I got to see.
1:54:01
Speaker 1: I think a reason why I got to see was
1:54:03
Speaker 1: Ken knew he was on the hop, like the chopping block,
1:54:05
Speaker 1: and I was his first round pick the year prior,
1:54:10
Speaker 1: and so there was like I think it was a
1:54:11
Speaker 1: politic game for him because even some of the older
1:54:13
Speaker 1: guys were like, what do you Yeah, I'm like, come on, man.
1:54:16
Speaker 3: But Marcus, is that Malarkey's one of his boys?
1:54:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Marcus.
1:54:21
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean Mike's been good to me, so I
1:54:24
Speaker 4: can't I can't talk to I thought we were I'm
1:54:31
Speaker 4: not gonna this is good. I'm gonna play this neutral
1:54:33
Speaker 4: game here.
1:54:35
Speaker 1: You know that is smart. But we beat the Saints
1:54:36
Speaker 1: in overtime. We did right after that and didn't want
1:54:39
Speaker 1: another one. I threw the luckiest touching on my life
1:54:42
Speaker 1: to Delaney. Oh my goodness, I was trying to throw
1:54:45
Speaker 1: it away they brought fire zone. I'm a rookie. I
1:54:49
Speaker 1: don't protections is just like whatever, you know, I'll figure
1:54:53
Speaker 1: it out later. And they basically brought fourd to this
1:54:56
Speaker 1: flourid to the side, and I was hot and I
1:54:58
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm just gonna try to throw it away,
1:54:59
Speaker 1: and I threw it in the direction of Delane who
1:55:01
Speaker 1: was running the sail route. When I threw it, I
1:55:03
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't put enough on that. And then
1:55:06
Speaker 1: I'm like watching the ball and I see Delaney start
1:55:08
Speaker 1: to track it, and then Jerry's bird I think, uh,
1:55:12
Speaker 1: I think it was Jerry's bird played at organ by
1:55:14
Speaker 1: the way, stud dude. He hits up in the air,
1:55:17
Speaker 1: Delaney catches it, scores like a sixty yard touchdown. I
1:55:20
Speaker 1: was like, wow, isn't the Saints are like still the
1:55:23
Speaker 1: Saints too?
1:55:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Drew was there. That didn't the field
1:55:26
Speaker 4: goal go off the upright to go in the overtime
1:55:30
Speaker 4: for us with them like they missed it?
1:55:32
Speaker 1: Remember I got it was was it Fassano or Stevens
1:55:36
Speaker 1: who won those Fossanoso. Yeah, fifteen was a tough year.
1:55:41
Speaker 1: It was a tough year, but you're probably you're just
1:55:42
Speaker 1: getting your feet.
1:55:43
Speaker 4: Well, I was just trying to was swimming, Yeah, just
1:55:45
Speaker 4: trying to tread water.
1:55:46
Speaker 1: You made feel that whole season.
1:55:48
Speaker 3: Did not.
1:55:50
Speaker 4: I did not, not at all when I was in Tennessee.
1:55:52
Speaker 1: But yeah, but fifteen, like off the line, Ben wasn't
1:55:55
Speaker 1: there yet, Ben wasn't there. It was me Chance Andy Gaelic,
1:56:00
Speaker 1: Andy Gaelic, but schwanky before swanky Dolphins and then kind
1:56:05
Speaker 1: of a revolving door a right garden, left and right tackle,
1:56:09
Speaker 1: so you didn't have a whole lot of protection. And
1:56:11
Speaker 1: the offense we were running was insane for an offensive
1:56:17
Speaker 1: line that wasn't seasoned.
1:56:19
Speaker 4: We I have a funny story about that. We so
1:56:23
Speaker 4: quarterback wristband right, No, I didn't really, I never wore one.
1:56:26
Speaker 4: We were no how to hear. I was like, no
1:56:27
Speaker 4: how to on high school? So seon. I mean first game,
1:56:31
Speaker 4: the game he won, We did fine. Second game we're
1:56:33
Speaker 4: playing up in Cleveland, and the numbers for the wristband
1:56:38
Speaker 4: Aer won through whatever. I think there was like eighty
1:56:40
Speaker 4: ninety hundred maybe hundred plays or whatever, and I took
1:56:44
Speaker 4: a sack. It's like two minute and our two minute
1:56:47
Speaker 4: menu with Whiz was one through ten. So he's yelling
1:56:50
Speaker 4: four four four, So I'm not getting everybody in a huddle.
1:56:54
Speaker 4: I'm going off wristband. Four. Well, the first like five
1:56:58
Speaker 4: plays of the spander usually like specials or like you know,
1:57:03
Speaker 4: trick plays. So I don't know. It's like with like
1:57:07
Speaker 4: minute and ten seconds left before half, and I call
1:57:10
Speaker 4: this play and it's a reverse to Harry Douglas and
1:57:13
Speaker 4: I'm like getting ready to call, and like people are
1:57:17
Speaker 4: like looking at me, like you sure about this, and
1:57:18
Speaker 4: like that's what they said for, and I'm like, I
1:57:22
Speaker 4: take this nap, We do the reverse to Harry, we
1:57:24
Speaker 4: get tackled for like a five yard loss or whatever.
1:57:27
Speaker 4: I come off to the sideline. He goes, what were
1:57:29
Speaker 4: you doing?
1:57:29
Speaker 3: Why'd you call?
1:57:29
Speaker 4: I'm like you said four, Like I'm looking at play
1:57:32
Speaker 4: four on the wristband. He goes, oh, no, no, no,
1:57:34
Speaker 4: we're talking about play four on the two minute men.
1:57:37
Speaker 4: I was like, that's tough, man, that's.
1:57:39
Speaker 3: A five yard loss. Yeah, call the reverse god two
1:57:43
Speaker 3: minutes drill.
1:57:44
Speaker 1: I mean I think sixteen man.
1:57:47
Speaker 2: I mean.
1:57:49
Speaker 1: Once we got Ben in, it seems like that's when
1:57:51
Speaker 1: everything kind of changed for offense. I would like talk
1:57:54
Speaker 1: about your relationship with Ben and how important. He was,
1:57:57
Speaker 1: Oh man for you at those times, because I had
1:58:00
Speaker 1: to grow to love Ben as opposed to like appreciating
1:58:03
Speaker 1: him for who he was in the beginning.
1:58:05
Speaker 4: Oh he was for me from the start. Was unbelievable.
1:58:08
Speaker 4: Guy that's played at a high level, knows the ins
1:58:11
Speaker 4: and outs of protections. Like I mean, my first my
1:58:15
Speaker 4: rookie year, like I had to go up there and
1:58:17
Speaker 4: like make a Mic point and like, which I was
1:58:19
Speaker 4: fine with, but like I didn't understand like trying to
1:58:21
Speaker 4: make Mike points like in the run game and like
1:58:24
Speaker 4: I'm over there, like I don't care, like the wills
1:58:26
Speaker 4: of Mike. I don't who cares? Yeah, I never understood
1:58:32
Speaker 4: any of that, you know. And so getting Ben into
1:58:37
Speaker 4: the team, like he controlled all that and we were
1:58:40
Speaker 4: able to like he taught me a lot about protections.
1:58:42
Speaker 4: We're able to get like on the same page. And
1:58:45
Speaker 4: a lot of times the protections I would be like, hey,
1:58:47
Speaker 4: you know, he's seeing one thing. I'd be like, hey, no, no,
1:58:49
Speaker 4: go left, go left, go left, and he would make
1:58:51
Speaker 4: all the calls. Everybody would switch up and we'd be good. So,
1:58:55
Speaker 4: I mean, Ben was heaven sent for me and I
1:58:57
Speaker 4: think for all of us. Really like he was just
1:58:59
Speaker 4: such a glue guy and thankful that I was able
1:59:02
Speaker 4: to play with him.
1:59:02
Speaker 3: Was it hard going through so many coaching changes?
1:59:07
Speaker 4: It was wasn't easy, I mean, but part of it is,
1:59:11
Speaker 4: I think again, it's like I was so naive to it.
1:59:14
Speaker 4: I was like, nah, man, like I'll make it work.
1:59:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoever's in here, whatever.
1:59:19
Speaker 4: But looking back on it, like I think, on my eleven,
1:59:22
Speaker 4: this will be my eleventh season, I've had nine different
1:59:24
Speaker 4: play callers. Wild yeah, And I think, like looking back
1:59:29
Speaker 4: on it, like that is kind of crazy. And I was,
1:59:32
Speaker 4: this was what twenty eighteen we had Blaine Gabbert, my
1:59:35
Speaker 4: guy watch.
1:59:36
Speaker 1: Daddy Spinet, Yeah, hell yeah, just fighting for one more
1:59:39
Speaker 1: every year.
1:59:42
Speaker 4: Blaine. Blaine's awesome.
1:59:43
Speaker 1: He's got a great viob about him.
1:59:45
Speaker 4: He does, he does. And I remember we were sitting
1:59:47
Speaker 4: there one meeting and he was like, yeah, this is
1:59:49
Speaker 4: my eighth season, this is my eighth different play call
1:59:51
Speaker 4: and I was like, damn man, it's crazy. Like I'm
1:59:53
Speaker 4: on five and this is like four. It's like it's
1:59:56
Speaker 4: kind of crazy to think about.
1:59:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about the tra transition to Washington. It feels
2:00:01
Speaker 3: like you found some footing there. You opted to go back.
2:00:05
Speaker 3: I know you were having your presser and talked about
2:00:08
Speaker 3: you know, if you were to get an offer from
2:00:09
Speaker 3: another team, they would have had to have knocked it
2:00:11
Speaker 3: out of the park for you to leave, because you,
2:00:13
Speaker 3: you know, accepted. You love the role, you love the organization,
2:00:17
Speaker 3: you love the team. But talk about your time in Washington.
2:00:21
Speaker 4: Yes, it was awesome. I mean aside from maybe our
2:00:24
Speaker 4: first couple of years, Like, it was probably the most
2:00:26
Speaker 4: fun I had in the NFL, just from a day
2:00:30
Speaker 4: to day basis. And what was really cool was when
2:00:33
Speaker 4: I was in free agency last year and they called
2:00:35
Speaker 4: me up, like DQ's message to at least to me,
2:00:38
Speaker 4: and it sounds like it was like to a lot
2:00:40
Speaker 4: of other guys was I want to create the best
2:00:42
Speaker 4: environment to come play football. And I was like, okay,
2:00:47
Speaker 4: you know, sounds good, right, sounds good in theory. And
2:00:49
Speaker 4: when I when I showed up there being around Cliff,
2:00:52
Speaker 4: being around Tavita and the rest of the staff, like
2:00:55
Speaker 4: he really created this type of environment where it's just
2:01:00
Speaker 4: I have fun, cut loose, like be who you are
2:01:03
Speaker 4: and we're going to roll and win games. And from
2:01:07
Speaker 4: a person standpoint, he's like unbelievable, Like comes up to
2:01:11
Speaker 4: everybody's wife like kids, like he's very personable, and I
2:01:17
Speaker 4: think that's where you get guys to just play hard
2:01:19
Speaker 4: for you, and being around him and being around the
2:01:22
Speaker 4: core group of guys like Zach and Bobby, and when
2:01:25
Speaker 4: you got a group that really just kind of enjoys
2:01:27
Speaker 4: being around each other, like you find ways to win.
2:01:30
Speaker 4: And I think for me, somebody else, if I had
2:01:34
Speaker 4: an opportunity to go play, was going to have to
2:01:36
Speaker 4: really like kind of show me that was possible, because
2:01:39
Speaker 4: I feel like I play my best in that type
2:01:41
Speaker 4: of environment. And I'm I'm fortunate and I'm excited to
2:01:45
Speaker 4: be back and I'm looking forward to kind of seeing
2:01:48
Speaker 4: what we can make of it.
2:01:49
Speaker 3: When did you know that d had it?
2:01:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny. Everyone kind of asked me that, like
2:01:54
Speaker 4: we you know, like OTAs, everyone's kind of like, yeah,
2:01:57
Speaker 4: you know, he looks good, like in camp, you know,
2:01:59
Speaker 4: look good. Everyone was yeah, you know, But I would
2:02:03
Speaker 4: say for me personally, it was probably against Cincinnati on
2:02:07
Speaker 4: Monday night, and like his demeanor the moment, like the
2:02:12
Speaker 4: moment was never too big for him, like he was
2:02:14
Speaker 4: ready to roll from the get go. And I watched
2:02:17
Speaker 4: him go and just like dissect the defense. And it
2:02:22
Speaker 4: was probably from my vantage point, probably one of the
2:02:24
Speaker 4: better games that I've seen a quarterback play. And whether
2:02:27
Speaker 4: it was running making guys miss to completing four fourth
2:02:32
Speaker 4: and five or fourth and six, to like keep drives
2:02:34
Speaker 4: alive to score touchdowns, like he was unbelievable. And I
2:02:38
Speaker 4: was like, if this kid can continue to do that
2:02:40
Speaker 4: or kind of play in that realm, like he's going
2:02:42
Speaker 4: to be really special. And he found a way kind
2:02:45
Speaker 4: of throughout the year to do that.
2:02:46
Speaker 3: How was he in the film room as like a
2:02:48
Speaker 3: student of the game.
2:02:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's very knowledgeable. And what's been cool for me
2:02:53
Speaker 4: is like I've been able to just like from my
2:02:56
Speaker 4: past experiences be like, hey, this is like something that
2:02:58
Speaker 4: happened to me, just be aware of it, and like
2:03:02
Speaker 4: to see him recognize that and realize that and do
2:03:05
Speaker 4: maybe what I I saying. He was doing what I
2:03:07
Speaker 4: was saying, but like just being able to like account
2:03:10
Speaker 4: that type of information and use it like was really
2:03:12
Speaker 4: cool for me. And it's pretty pretty spot on about
2:03:16
Speaker 4: how he is as a person, Like he comes in,
2:03:18
Speaker 4: works hard, goes about his business, and moves on. And
2:03:21
Speaker 4: I think he's got a chance to be really good.
2:03:23
Speaker 3: Is he a vocal guy?
2:03:25
Speaker 4: Yes and no. And what's cool is like when you
2:03:29
Speaker 4: have a group of veterans you can kind of get
2:03:32
Speaker 4: you kind of encourage it, and towards the end of
2:03:35
Speaker 4: the year you could really see it from him. And
2:03:38
Speaker 4: what's been nice about DQ though, is he's like, don't
2:03:40
Speaker 4: we don't ever want to be somebody else that you're not.
2:03:44
Speaker 4: And if you're not vocal, if you're not like, don't
2:03:46
Speaker 4: force it, which I think for Jay has been really
2:03:50
Speaker 4: good because then he kind of like he's able to
2:03:52
Speaker 4: create that type of leadership for himself and is able
2:03:55
Speaker 4: to relate to guys and kind of get the most
2:03:57
Speaker 4: out of him.
2:03:58
Speaker 3: What it Oh, sorry, go ahead, I was gonna say,
2:04:00
Speaker 3: what is it about d Q's culture. You talked about
2:04:02
Speaker 3: his intention, how he's personal, he's great with people, he
2:04:05
Speaker 3: goes up to wives. What is it about like his
2:04:08
Speaker 3: day to day in the season, say, you drop a game.
2:04:11
Speaker 3: We've all been in the locker rooms where it's like
2:04:13
Speaker 3: the urgency and maybe coaches kind of you know, the
2:04:16
Speaker 3: negative energy is kind of in the building. But what
2:04:18
Speaker 3: is it about d Q's culture on the day to day,
2:04:21
Speaker 3: like in the grind of the season, because anybody you
2:04:23
Speaker 3: talk to about DQ, everybody talks about how great his
2:04:26
Speaker 3: culture is.
2:04:28
Speaker 4: We hit a stretch last year where he lost three
2:04:30
Speaker 4: in a row. Did his demeanor at all changed, Not
2:04:34
Speaker 4: one bit? And his day to day is always the same,
2:04:38
Speaker 4: Like you know what you're gonna get on Monday, tell
2:04:40
Speaker 4: the truth, Monday, You're going you get the day off
2:04:42
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and it's fundamental Wednesday, it's turnover Thursday, and
2:04:47
Speaker 4: it's fast Fridays. And it's the same regardless if you're
2:04:50
Speaker 4: winning or not. So you're not showing up after blowing
2:04:53
Speaker 4: out whoever and getting a Monday off, Like it's we're
2:04:57
Speaker 4: gonna do the same exact thing, so we're regardless of
2:05:01
Speaker 4: how the results are. And like his preparation and process
2:05:04
Speaker 4: remains the same, and a lot of that too, like
2:05:07
Speaker 4: is not football. It's kind of why, Like I've never
2:05:11
Speaker 4: been a part of a team where on Saturday he
2:05:14
Speaker 4: doesn't talk about football at all. And this is a
2:05:16
Speaker 4: day before the game and you're sitting down and I
2:05:19
Speaker 4: remember the first week. I'm like, i mean, should we
2:05:21
Speaker 4: like talk about like hey, Keith, the victory or you
2:05:24
Speaker 4: know some of these things?
2:05:25
Speaker 3: You know, and.
2:05:28
Speaker 4: He has Dylan Thompson, who shout out is like unbelievable,
2:05:32
Speaker 4: but he goes up there and he leads like a
2:05:35
Speaker 4: life lesson and like a talk about how you can
2:05:38
Speaker 4: become better men. And for me, like being a part
2:05:42
Speaker 4: of the NFL for ten years, like you never see
2:05:44
Speaker 4: that it's never been about that, But when you can
2:05:47
Speaker 4: step aside and realize that football is just a little
2:05:49
Speaker 4: bit part of what you do, it's not who you are.
2:05:52
Speaker 4: I think you really kind of galvanize a group and
2:05:55
Speaker 4: guys really reacted to it. And I don't think it
2:05:57
Speaker 4: was any surprise for any of us in that building
2:05:59
Speaker 4: that how well we did and how far we went
2:06:01
Speaker 4: just because of a DQ and what he's about.
2:06:04
Speaker 3: I love that.
2:06:04
Speaker 1: That is beautiful. Like you, you brought up a point
2:06:08
Speaker 1: that a lot of football players say a lot, which
2:06:10
Speaker 1: is like football is what you do, is who you are.
2:06:12
Speaker 1: How do you stop that from becoming your identity for you?
2:06:15
Speaker 4: I didn't. I still struggle with that, And I think
2:06:19
Speaker 4: from my transition in Tennessee after everything had kind of
2:06:24
Speaker 4: fallen apart, like I was like didn't know what to do.
2:06:28
Speaker 4: Same with Atlanta, like I was, you know, it's funny,
2:06:30
Speaker 4: like you think you're able to learn from previous challenges obstacles,
2:06:36
Speaker 4: and I thought I did. But when everything had happened
2:06:39
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, like I was like, man, this is all
2:06:40
Speaker 4: over again. Like I'm I'm pretty good, Like I don't
2:06:43
Speaker 4: need to do this football thing, Like it's just kind
2:06:45
Speaker 4: of it's tearing me apart. Like I was like over it.
2:06:48
Speaker 4: And it really led to me being in Philly with
2:06:53
Speaker 4: Howie in the GM and I kind of started talking
2:06:56
Speaker 4: to some like sports psychologists. My agent had recommended one
2:07:01
Speaker 4: who I still talk to today, and how he was like,
2:07:05
Speaker 4: I went to Philly after Atlanta, Bro, it was like
2:07:07
Speaker 4: the worst camp I've ever had. I couldn't even hit
2:07:10
Speaker 4: a shallow round. I was like dirting flat routes like
2:07:13
Speaker 4: and how he like comes over and he's like, hey, man,
2:07:14
Speaker 4: I really just want you to like kind of dig
2:07:17
Speaker 4: into your mental side a little bit, and so I did,
2:07:20
Speaker 4: And really, I think through the course of that season,
2:07:23
Speaker 4: I kind of started to maybe get away from my
2:07:27
Speaker 4: identity as a football player and more as my identity
2:07:29
Speaker 4: as a you know, a husband, a father, a son,
2:07:33
Speaker 4: a brother. And it's so hard because I think as athletes,
2:07:37
Speaker 4: like we sit here and forever that's your sport or
2:07:40
Speaker 4: whatever you do. That's like how you identify yourself and
2:07:43
Speaker 4: you sit in these meetings. The PA does all these
2:07:45
Speaker 4: meetings right like, oh, you know you're not You're not
2:07:49
Speaker 4: just a football player, and you like sit there like
2:07:51
Speaker 4: I know I'm not like whatever, but like you really
2:07:53
Speaker 4: don't know kind of until you have something kind of
2:07:56
Speaker 4: thrown in your face to realize like, oh maybe I
2:07:58
Speaker 4: am really kind of identified myself as at So for me,
2:08:02
Speaker 4: like I take call it an hour a week and
2:08:06
Speaker 4: I talk and it's a little bit about football, like
2:08:10
Speaker 4: how can I get better mentally? But it's a lot
2:08:12
Speaker 4: of it's just like unleashing like things that are going on,
2:08:14
Speaker 4: whether it's me inside internally or like from like as
2:08:19
Speaker 4: a father or like just little things like that. And
2:08:23
Speaker 4: it's kind of crazy to think about how much these
2:08:25
Speaker 4: external things really affect your internal and being able to
2:08:29
Speaker 4: understand that internally, if you control kind of what how
2:08:33
Speaker 4: you feel and how you acted things like, you're going
2:08:35
Speaker 4: to be better for it. So I was so easy
2:08:38
Speaker 4: for me throughout my time, especially in Tennessee, where like
2:08:40
Speaker 4: I would just shoulder everything like you can put it
2:08:42
Speaker 4: on me. I don't care, like I'll figure it out,
2:08:45
Speaker 4: and you don't really realize how much it affects you
2:08:47
Speaker 4: until like maybe it's all said and done, you're like, dude,
2:08:49
Speaker 4: like I could have been a better teammate, I could
2:08:52
Speaker 4: have been a person depending on how you know it
2:08:54
Speaker 4: all would have would have played out. But yeah, I
2:08:58
Speaker 4: had one and I lost.
2:08:59
Speaker 1: It's okay, that's part of cutting podcast. Yeah, what are
2:09:04
Speaker 1: some of your fondest memories? Because like for me, when
2:09:06
Speaker 1: when I have you on the show, I just start
2:09:08
Speaker 1: racing in my brain about all the times we had
2:09:10
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and then Will jumps over to Commanders. I'm thinking,
2:09:13
Speaker 1: like how do I bring this back to Tennessee? And
2:09:15
Speaker 1: then we or I'm like, how do I bring this
2:09:16
Speaker 1: back to Tennessee? Because it's it's it's because having this
2:09:21
Speaker 1: conversation you you realize like how it ended, how tough
2:09:26
Speaker 1: it was for you. But still being in Nashville this day,
2:09:30
Speaker 1: like every single Titans fan is like, yo, market the
2:09:33
Speaker 1: fucking Marcus Mary Goda, like everyone is still like sees
2:09:37
Speaker 1: you as this when I talk to you now, and
2:09:39
Speaker 1: you're not seeing yourself as that at that time when
2:09:42
Speaker 1: everybody in Nashville is like still so proud of like
2:09:45
Speaker 1: eight and they're like all about it, which is which
2:09:48
Speaker 1: to me is like says a lot about you as
2:09:50
Speaker 1: a player, but it also says so much about your
2:09:51
Speaker 1: character and how you were just talking about like shouldering
2:09:53
Speaker 1: things like I remember vividly like when things weren't going well,
2:09:58
Speaker 1: I would see you, I would w you, and you
2:10:00
Speaker 1: would never you were never emotional, And I think I
2:10:02
Speaker 1: even said you one time it was like maybe you should.
2:10:04
Speaker 3: Like show a little bit more emotion his wife's price.
2:10:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there was one specific time and it was
2:10:11
Speaker 1: like towards the end where I remember we're like going out,
2:10:12
Speaker 1: like it was halftime, and I was like one of
2:10:14
Speaker 1: the last ones in the locker room and You're like
2:10:15
Speaker 1: let out a scream and like slam your fist on
2:10:17
Speaker 1: the on the locker and I remember thinking myself, good,
2:10:20
Speaker 1: like that's he needs that. And I think we ended
2:10:22
Speaker 1: up going like winning that game. But I want us
2:10:24
Speaker 1: to know like kind of your fond memories, because there's
2:10:27
Speaker 1: been a lot we talked about. We talked about a
2:10:29
Speaker 1: lot of valleys here, but like it doesn't take away
2:10:31
Speaker 1: from like you, how good of a player you are,
2:10:33
Speaker 1: how much you've accomplished in your life. So I just
2:10:35
Speaker 1: want to roll down memory, Lange.
2:10:37
Speaker 3: I like it.
2:10:37
Speaker 4: I like it. Gosh. One of my favorite memories.
2:10:45
Speaker 3: Wolverine.
2:10:49
Speaker 1: Is that a fond memory for you?
2:10:50
Speaker 2: Man?
2:10:50
Speaker 3: You're talking about Titans or Yeah?
2:10:54
Speaker 1: That's all I know, Likenessee.
2:10:57
Speaker 3: How do we bring it here?
2:10:58
Speaker 1: Yeah? How do we bring it back here?
2:11:00
Speaker 3: Yeah?
2:11:02
Speaker 1: I know, right exactly.
2:11:06
Speaker 3: Gosh.
2:11:06
Speaker 4: My favorite memories probably got to be jackson We played
2:11:10
Speaker 4: Jacksonville at home to get into the playoffs, and seventeen
2:11:15
Speaker 4: was kind of up and down here for me, battling
2:11:18
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, Like I was kind of not
2:11:20
Speaker 4: playing great, and we had a fumbled exchange with Derek
2:11:26
Speaker 4: and Yannick ends up getting the ball and returns it
2:11:30
Speaker 4: for a touchdown, and I remember sitting like, dude, no way,
2:11:33
Speaker 4: we're about to lose this game, like we we were
2:11:37
Speaker 4: at the time. I think we're like eight and four
2:11:38
Speaker 4: before we went to the West Coast, and I was
2:11:40
Speaker 4: like we were sitting there trying to just scratching claw
2:11:43
Speaker 4: to get in. And I remember we get to, we
2:11:45
Speaker 4: get the ball back, We're just trying to hold the lead,
2:11:48
Speaker 4: and it was third and five or third and six
2:11:51
Speaker 4: and took the snap. I probably could have thrown the
2:11:55
Speaker 4: Lanny the ball. I mean, never wrong throwing de Laney
2:11:57
Speaker 4: the ball, but I scrambled and I took off to
2:12:00
Speaker 4: the left and I ended up getting the first down
2:12:03
Speaker 4: and I remember sliding and looking up to the stand.
2:12:07
Speaker 4: I was trying to find I was trying to find
2:12:08
Speaker 4: my family, and I like kind of spiked the ball.
2:12:11
Speaker 4: I was kind of like the most emotional thing I've
2:12:13
Speaker 4: ever done, you know. I was just like for all
2:12:15
Speaker 4: that was going on that year for me personally, just
2:12:18
Speaker 4: being hurt, not playing well, like I was like kind
2:12:22
Speaker 4: of threw the ball down, was like, yeah, I know
2:12:24
Speaker 4: I can still do this. And I remember getting that
2:12:27
Speaker 4: first down and Delaney had to grab me because he
2:12:30
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna say something that I think it
2:12:31
Speaker 4: was church maybe something.
2:12:32
Speaker 1: Like that, because you did do the stair down, but
2:12:36
Speaker 1: it was nothing to him.
2:12:37
Speaker 4: It was nothing to him. I just had so much
2:12:39
Speaker 4: emotion built up, I think from kind of that year
2:12:42
Speaker 4: and seventeen, but that's a fond memory for me because
2:12:46
Speaker 4: it was like, regardless of what was going on, like
2:12:49
Speaker 4: we still find a way to win, and like Delaney
2:12:52
Speaker 4: being there having my back, having making sure I was
2:12:56
Speaker 4: like not doing too much, but like, hey, we got
2:12:58
Speaker 4: another game to play and like us to get in.
2:13:00
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like maybe a while
2:13:03
Speaker 4: since we had been in the playoffs for Tennessee. So
2:13:06
Speaker 4: being able to do that at home in Nashville was
2:13:08
Speaker 4: was a special moment for me. And then I mean,
2:13:11
Speaker 4: who can forget the Kansas City game? Like that was wild?
2:13:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it twenty one three.
2:13:14
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. At a halftime we should have never
2:13:16
Speaker 4: won that game.
2:13:18
Speaker 1: I never should have won that game, should have never
2:13:20
Speaker 1: won that you threw a touchdown pass to yourself.
2:13:24
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember where I was when you guys
2:13:26
Speaker 3: came back, Like I was in my buddy John Wigger.
2:13:28
Speaker 3: I was in his basement. We were playing the Last Name, Yeah,
2:13:31
Speaker 3: and we were we were playing pool, and I remember
2:13:33
Speaker 3: seeing a halftime like this isn't even a game, right,
2:13:36
Speaker 3: And then by the end of it's like these motherfuckers
2:13:38
Speaker 3: came back and won, Yes, beat them.
2:13:42
Speaker 4: That was. That's another really fun memory.
2:13:43
Speaker 3: That was.
2:13:44
Speaker 1: That was the coldest game I've ever played in my life.
2:13:46
Speaker 1: That was. That was brutal.
2:13:48
Speaker 4: That stretch was cold. Jacksonville home was cold. Jacksonville at
2:13:51
Speaker 4: home to Kansas City. Then we went to New England,
2:13:54
Speaker 4: got donkeyed, we got murdered. Bro Phillips super and came
2:13:59
Speaker 4: up to me. It was like, I don't know, we're
2:14:01
Speaker 4: losing whatever it was, and he.
2:14:05
Speaker 3: Was, bro, I'm open down the middle.
2:14:06
Speaker 4: I'm like, Philip, it doesn't matter.
2:14:08
Speaker 1: Bro, It's over. It is so done. That Kansas City
2:14:14
Speaker 1: game was awesome. Yes, do you ever regret whenever we
2:14:18
Speaker 1: tried to play in tackleligible place For me, You're throwing
2:14:20
Speaker 1: the ball too fast in practice and I would drop
2:14:22
Speaker 1: it and then they would take I know, but there
2:14:24
Speaker 1: was a lot of opportunities before then as well. And
2:14:27
Speaker 1: I specifically remember you rocketing a few just above my
2:14:30
Speaker 1: head and it felt very intentional.
2:14:36
Speaker 3: There was.
2:14:38
Speaker 4: It was more just a laugh at practice, But then.
2:14:41
Speaker 1: I felt my I felt my dreams like slipping from
2:14:43
Speaker 1: my fingers every single time you do that football.
2:14:45
Speaker 3: Mark sing if he can handle these, he'll get the.
2:14:47
Speaker 4: Wats wanted them to go confidence, you know, I know,
2:14:49
Speaker 4: I was so nervous, That's all I got going back
2:14:53
Speaker 4: to a can I come real quick. So we were
2:14:56
Speaker 4: sitting there and we had this tech tackle eligible play
2:14:59
Speaker 4: against the Colts, and we had practiced it all week
2:15:02
Speaker 4: and he had dropped it. I remember going into it.
2:15:04
Speaker 4: You never counted it, and he I remember coming in
2:15:08
Speaker 4: through the headset and I'm like, I'm just gonna throw
2:15:11
Speaker 4: it at his body so he can't drop it. So
2:15:14
Speaker 4: I come out of it, come out of the fake,
2:15:15
Speaker 4: and I see him.
2:15:16
Speaker 3: Go like this.
2:15:16
Speaker 4: His eyes are so big at me like.
2:15:18
Speaker 1: This, Hey, I was so nervous.
2:15:22
Speaker 4: I never he's never nervous want anything, and he was.
2:15:25
Speaker 4: I just that was a I can still remember his
2:15:26
Speaker 4: eyes like this. And I threw like a little like
2:15:29
Speaker 4: just at his at his stomach, like.
2:15:31
Speaker 1: You're throwing to your like you're throwing to rue, trying
2:15:33
Speaker 1: to keep trying to catch a ball for the first time.
2:15:35
Speaker 1: Muffined it right in there.
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Speaker 3: I would like to dive back into a valley right here.
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Speaker 3: Here's why, Here's why. What I appreciate so much about
2:16:53
Speaker 3: this conversation is you're such an accomplished athlete, Like it
2:16:58
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if you're a heisman, a second overall pick,
2:17:00
Speaker 3: Like you've had an eleven year career, Like you have
2:17:03
Speaker 3: an incredible life that I know you're grateful for and
2:17:06
Speaker 3: getting like having these conversations, Like a lot of stuff
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Speaker 3: that you consume is about everybody's highlights. And I'm appreciative
2:17:12
Speaker 3: that you're so transparent in these low moments because I
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Speaker 3: feel like everybody watching like it goes through stuff like
2:17:17
Speaker 3: when you're talking about getting banched or this happening, Like
2:17:20
Speaker 3: in my brain, there's like something you're speaking to that
2:17:22
Speaker 3: I'm relating to in my journey. And I feel like
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Speaker 3: everybody does that, and it doesn't matter how high you are.
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Speaker 3: It's like everybody goes through this human factor of bringing
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Speaker 3: it back to internal talking with the psychologists, like getting
2:17:34
Speaker 3: over whatever those mental blocks are to allow your body
2:17:37
Speaker 3: to do what it's capable of doing. So that's why
2:17:39
Speaker 3: I love like talking about the valleys and going to
2:17:43
Speaker 3: the time when you were talking about in Philly, was
2:17:45
Speaker 3: there a moment where you're talking to your wife and
2:17:47
Speaker 3: talking about like retiring and not wanting to do it
2:17:49
Speaker 3: anymore and that was the place you were thinking about, Hey,
2:17:52
Speaker 3: once its training camps over, Yeah, keeping gave the not
2:17:55
Speaker 3: but I think I'm gonna.
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Speaker 4: Hang it up. Yeah, I mean I was feeling that
2:17:58
Speaker 4: after Atlanta, just kind of how everything transpired there and
2:18:04
Speaker 4: the negative kind of you know, you try to say like, ah,
2:18:07
Speaker 4: nothing gets to you right, like I I mean, I
2:18:09
Speaker 4: don't even have social media, but like that stuff was
2:18:11
Speaker 4: getting to me about like, oh, he's a quitter this
2:18:14
Speaker 4: and that, like he and I was like, I've never
2:18:16
Speaker 4: been that's never been who I am, never been labeled
2:18:19
Speaker 4: as that, and it's like it felt like it was
2:18:21
Speaker 4: attacking my character and my integrity, and so I was like, man,
2:18:25
Speaker 4: I was like, f this. I don't I don't need this,
2:18:28
Speaker 4: Like why would I Why would I just set myself
2:18:30
Speaker 4: up for that? And like after Atlanta, I had met
2:18:33
Speaker 4: with the sports eychologists who I'm currently working with, and
2:18:38
Speaker 4: you know, we felt like we're kind of overcoming some
2:18:40
Speaker 4: of these hurdles, but it's really not until you go
2:18:44
Speaker 4: through it again or like you go and you're actually
2:18:46
Speaker 4: out there on the field, do you realize like, wait,
2:18:48
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not okay, you know, like my anxiety,
2:18:51
Speaker 4: like these these things are still bothering me. And so really,
2:18:55
Speaker 4: like I mean, I was like, we had this open
2:18:59
Speaker 4: we had this in stadium practice when I was in Philly,
2:19:02
Speaker 4: and which is wild by the way they sell those out.
2:19:05
Speaker 3: So the practices at Philly, Oh, how many people.
2:19:08
Speaker 4: Whatever the stadium holds. I think it was like seventy
2:19:10
Speaker 4: some thousand people. The whole stadium for the It was
2:19:13
Speaker 4: like an open scrimmage and really like you know, you
2:19:16
Speaker 4: had open practices or whatever, but like that was the
2:19:18
Speaker 4: first time I had been in a stadium full of
2:19:20
Speaker 4: people like that since the whole thing in Atlanta, and
2:19:24
Speaker 4: bro I could not I mean I could not throw ball,
2:19:26
Speaker 4: could not throw ball. I was like my my fear
2:19:30
Speaker 4: of my anxiety, like everything was just like through the roof.
2:19:33
Speaker 4: And so I ended up just running around like I
2:19:36
Speaker 4: was like they were calling plays and I was just scrambling,
2:19:39
Speaker 4: just trying to like move the ball. And I remember
2:19:42
Speaker 4: coming out of that game or the scrimmage and I
2:19:45
Speaker 4: was like, dude, I'm this is not it. I don't care.
2:19:47
Speaker 4: I remember looking at my wife like I'm good on this,
2:19:50
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't need it, and it just
2:19:54
Speaker 4: kind of it compiled like I went into the next
2:19:56
Speaker 4: preseason game against Baltimore, did okay Cleveland? I was like
2:20:01
Speaker 4: a mess and I was like after the Cleveland I
2:20:03
Speaker 4: really thought I wasn'tetting cut. I was playing so bad
2:20:06
Speaker 4: and I was just like almost in my mind, I
2:20:08
Speaker 4: was like hoping, Like I was like I hope they
2:20:10
Speaker 4: just cut me. And I just like walk off with
2:20:12
Speaker 4: it and move on. And that's when how he kind
2:20:15
Speaker 4: of sat me down after the the Cleveland game, was like, hey,
2:20:19
Speaker 4: I'm going to try to kind of help you out here.
2:20:21
Speaker 4: And through that process, through that year working with g
2:20:25
Speaker 4: my sports psychologist, like I really kind of just started
2:20:29
Speaker 4: to separate myself from what that anxiety and that fear is,
2:20:33
Speaker 4: and a lot of it is is external. A lot
2:20:37
Speaker 4: of it is like you're so worried about what maybe
2:20:39
Speaker 4: other people are thinking about you that you don't really
2:20:41
Speaker 4: realize that that's affecting who you are and what you're about.
2:20:44
Speaker 4: And my nature as a people pleaser I think kind
2:20:48
Speaker 4: of really sets that off. Like I naturally want to
2:20:52
Speaker 4: be liked. I want people to appreciate me as a person.
2:20:56
Speaker 4: So when something that I identify with, specifically football, isn't
2:21:00
Speaker 4: allowing me to do that and people are like, man,
2:21:02
Speaker 4: you suck, like you're not worth the you know, you're
2:21:04
Speaker 4: not worth the shit, Like then I'm like, well, if
2:21:07
Speaker 4: I'm not able to be liked because of the one
2:21:10
Speaker 4: thing that I feel i'm good at, then I'm kind
2:21:12
Speaker 4: of like lost and being able to really kind of
2:21:16
Speaker 4: realize that and take a step away from it and
2:21:20
Speaker 4: be around. Really, Alex Tanny was with me, like help
2:21:23
Speaker 4: me through that. Brian Johnson who's on staff for the Commanders,
2:21:26
Speaker 4: like they all kind of helped me through that avenue
2:21:29
Speaker 4: to where like I played in the last game against
2:21:30
Speaker 4: the Giants. Jay had gotten hurt before the playoff game
2:21:34
Speaker 4: and didn't. I played okay, but like I was like
2:21:36
Speaker 4: the first time I can remember like telling kill me
2:21:38
Speaker 4: like it is the first time I played like somewhat
2:21:41
Speaker 4: free since really college. And I think a lot of
2:21:44
Speaker 4: that was because there was a lot of expectations he
2:21:46
Speaker 4: came to Tennessee. When I got to the Raiders, like
2:21:48
Speaker 4: I was playing in my hometown, like there's expectations there.
2:21:51
Speaker 4: Then when you go to Atlanta, it's like you know,
2:21:54
Speaker 4: you're you're asked to be the guy there and it
2:21:56
Speaker 4: just kind of re kind of does that whole thing again.
2:22:00
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
2:22:02
Speaker 4: like I had to really come to terms with the
2:22:07
Speaker 4: fear and the anxiety that I was dealing with and
2:22:09
Speaker 4: that I needed to be able to communicate those things
2:22:12
Speaker 4: because it did affect me and it affected how I
2:22:14
Speaker 4: was playing.
2:22:16
Speaker 3: Take a moment to shout out your wife, because you're
2:22:18
Speaker 3: somebody who is Probably when you're in front of everybody
2:22:20
Speaker 3: else or in the locker room, you can't really see
2:22:23
Speaker 3: what the emotion is or what's going on with Marcus.
2:22:25
Speaker 3: You're a quiet guy, but I'm sure you're having these
2:22:27
Speaker 3: conversations with your wife through the ups and downs, and
2:22:31
Speaker 3: how pivotal was she through all this as an athlete too.
2:22:34
Speaker 4: Here, you're gonna make me cry on this podcast, and
2:22:36
Speaker 4: I want to do that.
2:22:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll cry with you, I promise.
2:22:45
Speaker 4: She's Yeah, I mean everything that I could ever ask for.
2:22:49
Speaker 4: She was an athlete herself, which I think for us
2:22:53
Speaker 4: has been great because she understands the valleys and understands
2:22:56
Speaker 4: the peaks, and very very fortunate. She's an unbelievable mother,
2:23:03
Speaker 4: which I think has made me realize how much I
2:23:05
Speaker 4: even love her more, because I don't think you really
2:23:07
Speaker 4: realize until your significant other has maybe a child, or
2:23:11
Speaker 4: that you really realize like how much you really do
2:23:14
Speaker 4: care about them. So, yeah, we've been through a lot.
2:23:21
Speaker 4: She is kind of the yang to the yang. I
2:23:24
Speaker 4: always joke that she's the social one and I'm not.
2:23:26
Speaker 4: She's the one that everyone likes and I'm not. But
2:23:30
Speaker 4: very very fortunate and yeah, blessed to have her in
2:23:33
Speaker 4: my life.
2:23:34
Speaker 3: I love that.
2:23:35
Speaker 4: That's beautiful.
2:23:37
Speaker 3: Just wait for.
2:23:42
Speaker 1: I said a couple of times before we started this podcast,
2:23:44
Speaker 1: like you can come sit down. She said, no, I'm good.
2:23:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll give you a mic, no doubt, because I'm
2:23:48
Speaker 3: fascinated me. Is there anything you do want to say? Yeah,
2:23:56
Speaker 3: don't let her get going, dude, congrats on two kids.
2:23:59
Speaker 4: Man, thank you?
2:24:00
Speaker 3: How did that throw a wrinkle in everything? While you're
2:24:03
Speaker 3: going through all these ebbs and flows, no doubt, trying
2:24:05
Speaker 3: to be president at home, also trying to pour into
2:24:08
Speaker 3: your craft and get back, you know, out of the
2:24:10
Speaker 3: funk that you were in. For sure.
2:24:12
Speaker 4: I think what really kind of set me off maybe
2:24:16
Speaker 4: a little bit, was after having Makaiah in Atlanta and
2:24:21
Speaker 4: had everything that had happened. I can just remember sitting
2:24:25
Speaker 4: there holding her and thinking about, man, I should have
2:24:28
Speaker 4: done this on this play, or I shouldn't have thrown this,
2:24:31
Speaker 4: or I wish I would have checked to this, And
2:24:34
Speaker 4: then I'm sitting there like five minutes lao, like, dude,
2:24:36
Speaker 4: there's something wrong with this, you know what I mean?
2:24:38
Speaker 4: Like I'm sitting there holding my child who's maybe a
2:24:41
Speaker 4: week old, and I'm thinking about decisions and plays that
2:24:45
Speaker 4: I did wrong, and that's when I was like really searching.
2:24:50
Speaker 4: That's when I ended up getting a sports psychologist because
2:24:52
Speaker 4: I was like, there's not like, there's there's nothing in
2:24:55
Speaker 4: this world that should take me away from her, and
2:24:58
Speaker 4: it was I was like, it's not for me. It
2:25:01
Speaker 4: wasn't worth it. So they've been a great perspective for me,
2:25:08
Speaker 4: and I think it's really helped me kind of iron
2:25:10
Speaker 4: out a lot of that fear and a lot of
2:25:12
Speaker 4: that anxiety because I don't want my kids to be
2:25:15
Speaker 4: afraid to talk about it if they do have it right, Like,
2:25:20
Speaker 4: I want my kids to be able to be vulnerable
2:25:22
Speaker 4: and be open to having conversations, whether it's with us
2:25:27
Speaker 4: or with other people, because I think that's how we
2:25:29
Speaker 4: all internally grow. So I think for me it's been
2:25:35
Speaker 4: the biggest blessing because it's helped me kind of overcome
2:25:37
Speaker 4: a lot of these things that I've been doing.
2:25:39
Speaker 3: With Yeah, I love it.
2:25:41
Speaker 1: Having kids is change change. Yeah, And I get what
2:25:44
Speaker 1: you're saying too with the like I remember having Win
2:25:48
Speaker 1: and she was born in July fifth, and then a
2:25:51
Speaker 1: couple of weeks that I'm in camp and I would
2:25:52
Speaker 1: get down in camp and I'd be thinking about tomorrow's
2:25:55
Speaker 1: practice or the film I mess up this play right,
2:25:59
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's so consuming, and when football becomes
2:26:03
Speaker 1: that consuming, it takes away from the fun. It takes
2:26:05
Speaker 1: away from the reason why you started playing the game
2:26:06
Speaker 1: in the first place. It's so hard to get out
2:26:09
Speaker 1: of that mental gymnastic of how tough, like the smallest
2:26:13
Speaker 1: things can set you off when they used to not
2:26:15
Speaker 1: at all.
2:26:16
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, man, I yeah, because there's parts of me
2:26:19
Speaker 3: that feels like I got lucky having RUE because we
2:26:23
Speaker 3: had our first around the same time as Aos actually
2:26:25
Speaker 3: about to go out to Atlanta, but even leaving however
2:26:29
Speaker 3: old rou was at that time and feeling like, man,
2:26:33
Speaker 3: it kind of sucks, like hey, shout out NFL moms
2:26:36
Speaker 3: and wives that are out there, sure because just knowing
2:26:39
Speaker 3: that what we pour like talking for myself and then
2:26:42
Speaker 3: you probably now being out of the league, like what
2:26:44
Speaker 3: you have to pour into a profession like this at
2:26:47
Speaker 3: a level that you've obsessed about for your entire life
2:26:51
Speaker 3: and knowing how that can like you know, again, I
2:26:54
Speaker 3: feel like I'm like thankful that I had RUE kind
2:26:56
Speaker 3: of after the fact because of how much you have
2:26:59
Speaker 3: to pour into everything at home and knowing that, you know,
2:27:02
Speaker 3: your unbelievable wife has to sacrifice a lot of stuff
2:27:05
Speaker 3: for us to chase our dream. And it's when I
2:27:08
Speaker 3: was thinking about going out to Atlanta or playing, It's like, damn,
2:27:10
Speaker 3: she's gonna have to do all this stuff that you
2:27:12
Speaker 3: know in the off season you have to help out
2:27:14
Speaker 3: on You're there, You're intentional, You're all of.
2:27:16
Speaker 4: It absolutely well. Like I don't mean to cut you off,
2:27:18
Speaker 4: but like that's like right now, right like I'm we
2:27:21
Speaker 4: start April twenty second, and I'm not going to move
2:27:24
Speaker 4: my entire family out there for seven weeks or eight
2:27:26
Speaker 4: weeks of the OTA period, So like she's going to
2:27:28
Speaker 4: be here in Oregon for Monday through Thursdays by herself,
2:27:33
Speaker 4: and it's basically she becomes like a single mother, right
2:27:36
Speaker 4: and then I come pop in on Friday for the weekends.
2:27:38
Speaker 4: And you know, it's just I don't think a lot
2:27:41
Speaker 4: of people understand like what that is and how that
2:27:44
Speaker 4: operates really on a day to day basis for a
2:27:46
Speaker 4: lot of these families, because it's not just me, you know,
2:27:48
Speaker 4: I mean guys like Zach Ertz and Bobby Wigner, like
2:27:52
Speaker 4: they have kids, you know, that are on the West
2:27:55
Speaker 4: Coast that they're going to be traveling back and forth too. Yeah,
2:27:58
Speaker 4: and it's just one kind of sees the end product
2:28:01
Speaker 4: on Sundays, but like it is, it's it is strenuous
2:28:04
Speaker 4: on the families, and to have someone solid at home
2:28:08
Speaker 4: to be able to take care of those things is
2:28:10
Speaker 4: really important.
2:28:10
Speaker 1: It's such a unique balance of like having gratitude for
2:28:13
Speaker 1: being able to do something that one percent of one
2:28:15
Speaker 1: percent get to do right and also being as present
2:28:17
Speaker 1: as you possibly can when you do get home, because
2:28:19
Speaker 1: it's just like you got to turn like turn that
2:28:21
Speaker 1: switch on.
2:28:22
Speaker 3: And coming home and probably want to kind of talk
2:28:23
Speaker 3: about your day or practice, and you're then you kind
2:28:25
Speaker 3: of like check yourself like.
2:28:26
Speaker 1: Right hip side too. Like I mean, Taylor had to
2:28:29
Speaker 1: deal with that, you know, especially when I had win
2:28:33
Speaker 1: shortly after that was like the ACL the bad season
2:28:36
Speaker 1: and the like, so there was just like so much
2:28:38
Speaker 1: turmoil and I was a shell of myself and I
2:28:40
Speaker 1: would remember going like my knee would be hurting, I
2:28:42
Speaker 1: have a bad game or something like that. And then
2:28:44
Speaker 1: I go into the next week and have practice on
2:28:46
Speaker 1: a Wednesday and come home and she's like, today was tough,
2:28:48
Speaker 1: and selfishly, I'm thinking of myself like, bro, you don't
2:28:51
Speaker 1: know how tough this is, Like you know what I'm saying,
2:28:55
Speaker 1: Like obviously what they're doing is I know, I'm truly
2:28:58
Speaker 1: trying to be as honest as possible. I was mentally
2:29:00
Speaker 1: sure because I sit there and be like, bro, this
2:29:03
Speaker 1: ship doesn't work and I have to go do things
2:29:05
Speaker 1: that this needs to work for and it's just like
2:29:07
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy how selfish you can get if you
2:29:11
Speaker 1: like allow yourself to the Definitely, like towards the end
2:29:13
Speaker 1: of my career, I was like I could look back
2:29:15
Speaker 1: at that and be like wow, like I was very
2:29:17
Speaker 1: selfish about me and everything that was wrong with me,
2:29:19
Speaker 1: as opposed to like seeing what she was having to
2:29:21
Speaker 1: go through. So it's yeah, having kids is definitely yeah, Yeah,
2:29:27
Speaker 1: it definitely equalizes a lot of things.
2:29:29
Speaker 3: Should we hit them with the bud light question?
2:29:30
Speaker 1: We should? I want to see if Jack, we'll give Jack, We'll.
2:29:35
Speaker 3: Give Jack a moment. So you know, people do anything
2:29:39
Speaker 3: for an ice cool, bud light, anything. What is something
2:29:43
Speaker 3: that you would do anything for? Families off the table,
2:29:46
Speaker 3: If we've learned anything about this podcast, we have to
2:29:49
Speaker 3: take family off the table because that's where you'll go. Yeah,
2:29:53
Speaker 3: so you got to take family off the table. And
2:29:55
Speaker 3: what is something that you would do anything for?
2:30:00
Speaker 4: Give me an example, who's great question?
2:30:02
Speaker 1: Who had a good one? It wasn't Dale somebody. Yeah,
2:30:06
Speaker 1: Steve Vanilla says, who does me? Eater was like, I
2:30:09
Speaker 1: want to do a documentary that I don't think anybody
2:30:11
Speaker 1: will ever care about, but I need to do the documentary.
2:30:14
Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell us on camera. He told us off camera,
2:30:16
Speaker 1: but he's like, that's what I would do anything for.
2:30:21
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I think mine's Actually it's a little bit interesting.
2:30:26
Speaker 4: I guess maybe for me. But I would do anything
2:30:30
Speaker 4: to go to It's called in the Publy Coast on Kuhi,
2:30:35
Speaker 4: and they have these secluded beaches that you only get
2:30:38
Speaker 4: to buy boat and I would do anything to get
2:30:42
Speaker 4: there and have an empty lineup and my boogie board
2:30:46
Speaker 4: and fins and just be there all day and catch
2:30:49
Speaker 4: barrels and get shocked and not a worry in the world.
2:30:54
Speaker 3: That seems like a vibe dude, a boogie board that.
2:30:59
Speaker 1: Is solid.
2:31:00
Speaker 3: It's hard to think outside of the obviously, it's like,
2:31:03
Speaker 3: especially with kids and everything else, family for sure.
2:31:09
Speaker 4: Oh see, this is the most nervous I've been all day.
2:31:13
Speaker 4: I love that.
2:31:16
Speaker 5: I have a two par question, football related in the
2:31:18
Speaker 5: non football one. It could be from high school, college
2:31:21
Speaker 5: or pros. Who is your favorite teammate you ever had
2:31:24
Speaker 5: and favorite coach?
2:31:25
Speaker 4: Can I say these guys are no, No, you cannot
2:31:27
Speaker 4: say them. It's a cop out. But if you were
2:31:30
Speaker 4: going to say that's an option for a part, well,
2:31:33
Speaker 4: first of all, I mean he he probably has one
2:31:35
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars in fines for me, so I really
2:31:38
Speaker 4: enjoyed my time with him. Gosh, you know, put me
2:31:42
Speaker 4: on the spot because I've played with so many great guys. Yeah,
2:31:50
Speaker 4: it's probably my dog. Actually just retired offishally had his
2:31:54
Speaker 4: retirement party on Sunday. Who's this ronness? GROSSU here's my
2:31:58
Speaker 4: center here. Congratulations to him. By the way, got inducted
2:32:04
Speaker 4: into the Oregon Hall of Fame University of Oregon Hall
2:32:07
Speaker 4: of Fame one. I don't know how many offensive linemen
2:32:11
Speaker 4: are in it, but yeah, so he's probably one of
2:32:14
Speaker 4: very few. So we're pretty cool. But that's my guy
2:32:17
Speaker 4: and been through a lot of things up and downs.
2:32:19
Speaker 4: Had a great time at Oregon. But he was there
2:32:21
Speaker 4: with me in Tennessee. I was also there with me
2:32:23
Speaker 4: and with the Raiders, and yeah, just my guy, like
2:32:27
Speaker 4: special dude, special family. And now he gets to be
2:32:32
Speaker 4: a trophy husband. So congratulations, my guy. Favorite coach, Yes,
2:32:38
Speaker 4: favorite coach, oh man, I would say Mark Helfrich. He
2:32:47
Speaker 4: was my head coach here. He was also the offensive
2:32:50
Speaker 4: coordinator when I got here. He taught me so much
2:32:54
Speaker 4: more than just football, and I think to this day
2:32:58
Speaker 4: that's why we're so close. He lives here in Eugene.
2:33:02
Speaker 4: We play golf. You know, he's had had our families
2:33:07
Speaker 4: over like He's just an unbelievable person who's been through
2:33:10
Speaker 4: a lot. And I think like being able just to
2:33:12
Speaker 4: have someone in your corner like that that you can
2:33:15
Speaker 4: always rely on is special. And he probably had to. Honestly,
2:33:22
Speaker 4: I could go on record and saying this, but he
2:33:24
Speaker 4: probably had the worst team meetings. He was He's a
2:33:27
Speaker 4: very smart guy and he would lose probably half the
2:33:30
Speaker 4: room when he would go through some of his pregame speeches.
2:33:34
Speaker 4: But for me, he was just unbelievable and I love
2:33:39
Speaker 4: him to death, and yeah, he's just one of a kind.
2:33:43
Speaker 6: Amazing all Right, last question, non football related.
2:33:46
Speaker 5: You're back home, you go to the gas station, build
2:33:48
Speaker 5: out your perfect hot plate.
2:33:52
Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't go to a gas station because I'm
2:33:54
Speaker 4: an ev guy, but I would say if I had
2:34:01
Speaker 4: so back home in Hawaii, and they do spam subes,
2:34:05
Speaker 4: so it's like it's spam on top of rice that's
2:34:09
Speaker 4: wrapped with noddy or seaweed, So I'd have one of those,
2:34:14
Speaker 4: and if you get lucky, you can get a little
2:34:21
Speaker 4: egg or you know, something else on there. It's unbelievable,
2:34:26
Speaker 4: no matter what you think, but it's great. And then
2:34:29
Speaker 4: I would probably get along lines of like we caught
2:34:34
Speaker 4: Kareean fried cheese, Korean fried chicken, so they do like
2:34:38
Speaker 4: it's a like a sesame type of teriaki sauce and
2:34:43
Speaker 4: they put some chili flakes in there, so I would
2:34:45
Speaker 4: have that and a spamos sube. Beautiful. Thank you for
2:34:49
Speaker 4: your time. Well hold on, wait, what would your hot
2:34:52
Speaker 4: plate be? I've only had the experience of it once.
2:34:55
Speaker 5: My brother lives in Maui and has for ten years,
2:34:57
Speaker 5: and I want to say it was some local just
2:35:01
Speaker 5: some kind of pork, some macaroni salad cold obviously, and
2:35:07
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I think it was just rise and hopefully
2:35:11
Speaker 5: they just got.
2:35:11
Speaker 4: Some nice house sauce in their You is it all over?
2:35:14
Speaker 6: So I think that's probably a good howie play.
2:35:16
Speaker 4: But it's safe. It's safe.
2:35:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it.
2:35:20
Speaker 3: You don't have anything else, Jack.
2:35:22
Speaker 1: I've got my trivia after this. Okay, oh trivia, quick trivia.
2:35:28
Speaker 1: Jack brought up palace. Is there really a beat up
2:35:30
Speaker 1: Pala Day?
2:35:31
Speaker 4: My mom grew up on Kawhia beat up holidays. They
2:35:34
Speaker 4: don't have it anymore, though, what is that?
2:35:36
Speaker 1: What is they's like white foreigner foreigner, No, it's white.
2:35:42
Speaker 1: It's the white kids.
2:35:47
Speaker 3: They go to a day and get beat up.
2:35:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you go to school and it's like it's
2:35:50
Speaker 1: a beat up Holla day, which, by the way, no
2:35:52
Speaker 1: ship not even a fun name to go with it.
2:35:54
Speaker 1: They should have like another cool beat.
2:35:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, and y'all just beat up the beat. We got
2:36:01
Speaker 3: to initiate him.
2:36:03
Speaker 4: Yeah.
2:36:04
Speaker 1: They roll the dice.
2:36:05
Speaker 3: This is real.
2:36:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, they roll the dice. The first dice is how
2:36:07
Speaker 1: many minutes?
2:36:07
Speaker 4: The next second.
2:36:10
Speaker 10: Is that?
2:36:10
Speaker 3: Is the true to that?
2:36:11
Speaker 1: No? No, no, that's like a gang things like.
2:36:16
Speaker 3: Damn is this for real?
2:36:17
Speaker 4: Yeah?
2:36:18
Speaker 1: So your mom took part in that, didn't.
2:36:21
Speaker 4: She she wouldn't go to school.
2:36:23
Speaker 1: That's sweet.
2:36:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it was beat up Hallie day, she just
2:36:26
Speaker 3: would skip out on school. That seems right Marcus coming
2:36:30
Speaker 3: from that.
2:36:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a good no doubt. What's all set
2:36:36
Speaker 1: and down? Where you're in a living in Hawaii?
2:36:37
Speaker 4: Yep, I'll be three hundred pounds on a boogie board somewhere.
2:36:40
Speaker 4: Come find me, man.
2:36:42
Speaker 3: This has been an incredible conversation. I legitimately appreciate it, man,
2:36:47
Speaker 3: talking through the peaks and especially the valleys. Love the
2:36:50
Speaker 3: transparency I do. It's like you know who you are, yeah,
2:36:54
Speaker 3: and it's it's rare you get guys that you know
2:36:57
Speaker 3: that want to sit in some of those uncomfortable spaces
2:37:00
Speaker 3: and talk about it, you know, knowing it's going to
2:37:02
Speaker 3: get viewed, and that's hard for a lot of people.
2:37:05
Speaker 4: And I do.
2:37:06
Speaker 3: I genuinely appreciate it.
2:37:07
Speaker 4: No, thank you, guys. We do it on the bus though. Yeah, yeah,
2:37:10
Speaker 4: you know.
2:37:11
Speaker 3: But hey, you've been we've been wanting to get you
2:37:13
Speaker 3: locked in sin just the beginning, so it's like, hey,
2:37:16
Speaker 3: we're gonna be out in Eugene. I just I just
2:37:18
Speaker 3: I was driving home and I was just thought to myself,
2:37:20
Speaker 3: I wonder for whatever reason, Marcus would be out in
2:37:23
Speaker 3: uh in Oregon. Because you mentioned your boy, who's Ryan
2:37:28
Speaker 3: fl Flarty. I remember listening to him on a podcast.
2:37:31
Speaker 4: He used to do all the Nike podcasts.
2:37:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, love hit stuff, shut out Ryan. But I just
2:37:36
Speaker 3: remember thinking, like, I wonder if he'll be out there.
2:37:38
Speaker 3: You're like yeap, until twenty second I'm like, buddy, it's time. Yeah. Yeah,
2:37:43
Speaker 3: because we talk about it every year every year because
2:37:46
Speaker 3: we were with him out what was it Vegas last year? Yep,
2:37:48
Speaker 3: when when that little moment went down in the hotel
2:37:51
Speaker 3: and I kind of had oh my god, yeah, you
2:37:54
Speaker 3: kind of had to shut it down. That was two
2:37:57
Speaker 3: years ago. Marcus loved that. He's like, hey, I got
2:38:01
Speaker 3: this game. What's the game called.
2:38:02
Speaker 1: It's called acucy.
2:38:05
Speaker 4: A C doucy pot.
2:38:07
Speaker 3: Did you tell your wife about this?
2:38:08
Speaker 4: No, now you're gonna get me in trouble.
2:38:10
Speaker 3: You you weren't. I don't think you got me that day.
2:38:14
Speaker 1: I think we all could well, we all could have
2:38:16
Speaker 1: lost a lot of money. So if you were like, hey,
2:38:18
Speaker 1: we can't do this, eone's like yeah, let's not do this.
2:38:20
Speaker 3: Because it got to a point that either ban or
2:38:21
Speaker 3: somebody put their car in the middle. Because there was
2:38:24
Speaker 3: so much money on the table.
2:38:26
Speaker 4: I forget the accy is like it's not even really skill,
2:38:30
Speaker 4: it's just like what the cards come out.
2:38:32
Speaker 3: But this round it was going so long.
2:38:34
Speaker 4: Well, we kept hitting posts. So like basically ac deucy
2:38:37
Speaker 4: works is you have to get in between the numbers.
2:38:39
Speaker 4: So like if you get like a jack and a two,
2:38:42
Speaker 4: like you want a number in between. If you go
2:38:44
Speaker 4: outside of that, you have to pay whatever you bet.
2:38:48
Speaker 4: If you hit a post, you have to double whatever
2:38:50
Speaker 4: you bet. So people will say like pot and they'll
2:38:53
Speaker 4: hit a post, so they'll hit jack or whatever the
2:38:55
Speaker 4: other number was, and then they have to match the
2:38:58
Speaker 4: pot and double it.
2:39:00
Speaker 3: Match the pot in double it. And there's so much
2:39:02
Speaker 3: money because the way you explained, it's like, you know
2:39:06
Speaker 3: it probably a couple of thousand. Yeah, we had to
2:39:14
Speaker 3: split it up. We had to like, hey, let's just
2:39:16
Speaker 3: get back to see ago.
2:39:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, two years ago. That was the one aria you.
2:39:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, you somebody put a car.
2:39:22
Speaker 4: You love the tables, I do. I would say, if
2:39:24
Speaker 4: there if there's a vice in my life, it's gambling.
2:39:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you do it so responsibly.
2:39:29
Speaker 4: I tried to.
2:39:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I remember we would do old line trips
2:39:32
Speaker 1: and you would come out and then some of the
2:39:34
Speaker 1: boys would go out and they'd be like, yeah, Marcus
2:39:36
Speaker 1: at seven am. When I got back, just on the
2:39:38
Speaker 1: crafts table with like one hundred bucks, is like, we
2:39:43
Speaker 1: just love playing.
2:39:44
Speaker 3: Well, have you heard about have you heard about our boy?
2:39:47
Speaker 1: You would love this.
2:39:48
Speaker 3: He's he's heavy on the gambling big really.
2:39:52
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got caught up with Dana and Dana was like, yeah,
2:39:55
Speaker 1: black well it was blackjack, now it's baccarat. Oh and
2:39:59
Speaker 1: an banker depends what the screen sets, and.
2:40:02
Speaker 3: We're talking how how hard the hands, the limits you
2:40:04
Speaker 3: go the max?
2:40:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like one hand, one hand, thirty gets me
2:40:12
Speaker 1: on the craps table to the crafts table. It's fun.
2:40:14
Speaker 1: I feel it's more.
2:40:15
Speaker 3: Social that was back when we were just we get
2:40:17
Speaker 3: some drinks, we're running the football, we're having the football.
2:40:23
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen here? Yeah? That was so much fun.
2:40:26
Speaker 1: We were like there was like five or six of
2:40:27
Speaker 1: us just sitting there, a.
2:40:28
Speaker 3: Few hundred dollars hands. Then we're up in the room
2:40:31
Speaker 3: and all that. I don't know how much cash we had,
2:40:33
Speaker 3: but it felt like it was like thirty or forty
2:40:34
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in the middle, and then somebody wanted to
2:40:36
Speaker 3: put a car in and nobody was hitting whatever the
2:40:39
Speaker 3: term was, the post or the pot or somebody hit
2:40:41
Speaker 3: the pot have to double it, and it was like, hey, fellas,
2:40:43
Speaker 3: let's really yeah, let's just separate all this. Lets everybody
2:40:47
Speaker 3: get money.
2:40:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a terrifying that's right, that's right. Then
2:40:51
Speaker 4: he lost it that night playing black Jass.
2:40:53
Speaker 3: Yeah is that Corey?
2:40:54
Speaker 4: Yeah?
2:40:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, Corey Cory. The next morning, we like we like
2:40:58
Speaker 3: shared a we shared a room, and uh, I come
2:41:01
Speaker 3: out of my room and he's just standing We're like
2:41:04
Speaker 3: up there in the hotel and he's just standing looking
2:41:07
Speaker 3: out the blinds and like, all I say is Corey
2:41:10
Speaker 3: and he just goes He's standing right there in his
2:41:12
Speaker 3: briefs and he just goes, man, what are we chasing.
2:41:15
Speaker 4: Out of here?
2:41:18
Speaker 3: Well?
2:41:18
Speaker 4: He wont I mean he won a good amount of
2:41:20
Speaker 4: money that day. And then I remember sitting at the
2:41:22
Speaker 4: back table like that's all gone.
2:41:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, was that the same we do we go to
2:41:28
Speaker 1: mister Chowles that night? Was that that same night?
2:41:30
Speaker 3: Yeah? We got either choles or pizza.
2:41:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to chows and I think Mitch was like,
2:41:35
Speaker 1: didn't Corey win ten thousand? And Corey's like slumped in
2:41:38
Speaker 1: so sad, and so it's like, does that guy that's
2:41:41
Speaker 1: one ten.
2:41:42
Speaker 4: Dollars You shouldn't laugh about that.
2:41:47
Speaker 1: No, he's all right. Corey's doing great, man, great. I
2:41:49
Speaker 1: think he's back with the Titans. Yeah, I think is
2:41:52
Speaker 1: he back?
2:41:52
Speaker 4: I think so, gosh, can't kill eight or nine.
2:41:57
Speaker 1: Something like that.
2:41:58
Speaker 3: Man, I think he's going on eight.
2:42:00
Speaker 1: He didn't even play right.
2:42:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was like in the training camp
2:42:03
Speaker 3: of Chicago. That's when you hit him with your built
2:42:05
Speaker 3: like a muffin or something.
2:42:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, saved his career. We were playing we were playing
2:42:09
Speaker 1: This is twenty twenty, so we were playing.
2:42:10
Speaker 3: Risk and it was in the middle of COVID, so
2:42:12
Speaker 3: we're just waking games.
2:42:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be in California. We play like I
2:42:16
Speaker 1: was like one in the morning where I was at,
2:42:18
Speaker 1: So i'd be three where you guys were at. And
2:42:20
Speaker 1: we played three games of Risk in a row. And
2:42:22
Speaker 1: Corey was talking one day, Oh, Corey, you're built like
2:42:24
Speaker 1: a muffin.
2:42:24
Speaker 3: It's like going at and it got quiet, like it
2:42:26
Speaker 3: was kind of awkward, like Dan Taylor's being kind of mean,
2:42:28
Speaker 3: because I think Corey said something like a pencil and
2:42:30
Speaker 3: he took.
2:42:30
Speaker 1: A photo and like, you know, you're building a pencil, Taylor.
2:42:33
Speaker 3: And then Taylor that night on the mic was just
2:42:35
Speaker 3: ripping into him. Everybody just like oh my god.
2:42:38
Speaker 1: The next day, like eight am, since it's a photo
2:42:41
Speaker 1: of him at the field grinding.
2:42:45
Speaker 3: And credit now he looks in Credit was Yeah.
2:42:49
Speaker 1: Now it's like hey, Corey, like you're welcome. Sometimes you
2:42:52
Speaker 1: got a bullied kid to put him on. He needs
2:42:55
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